veteran-class

[terse idol]

At least just throw it at our feeeet

[brittle turtle]

I much prefer the new one cause the old one gets stuck too easily on enemies

even if now you can just dodge back

its annoying

[civic knot]

did they buff the old one?

old*

[brittle turtle]

they buffed it, but i personally feel the new one is better

[analog blaze]

Psyker shield is a similar tool but you have no control over it as the vet. Smoke does have a place especially for melee vets.

[brittle turtle]

I'm pretty sure melee vets would rather take the guarranted ogryn clear or easy boss dps, than the "prevent gunners from seeing over here"

also, enemies like reapers still shoot through the smoke at your last seen location, its just poorly implemented

[shadow dagger]

what do i change on this

[serene sage]

they will need to do something rather radical to make smoke pickable

[analog blaze]

It works better than you think. And ogryns can be managed with other tools. Again, smoke is close to being good. I only use it to save points to put elsewhere.

[brittle turtle]

improve power cycle asap

remove critical hit damage, and get maniac

[quasi ledge]

Well it's bad, but if you're 100% gonna use it, replace critical hit damage with flak or maniac, replace supercharge with slaughter

[serene sage]

For example, smoke reserve to 8, smoke regen to 30s

[brittle turtle]

or carapce

[serene sage]

Make it 100% ridiculous

Embrace the meme

Smoke everywhere

[rugged portal]

If Smoke actually stopped sniper fire it would instantly be a million times more useful. Some folks would like it to put out fire whoch is a cool idea. I also would like if it had some kind of buff for standing in it or debuff for enemies.

[quasi ledge]

If he improves cycler he is gonna be stuck with supercharge and miss out on masive dps from slaughter

[brittle turtle]

smoke is not close to being good, its a meme and its just bad

[analog blaze]

Make the visual less opaque and make it last longer. Probably stop elites from shooting through it.

[brittle turtle]

you need power cycler 3 to kill crusher in a single combo

cycler 2*

[serene sage]

I would play smoke in its current iteration if I can spam it a ridiculous amount

Like if I want it, I have it

[quasi ledge]

He either improves both cycler and switches supercharge to slaughter and is stuck with 2 shitty perks, or he deals with the lack of the third swing for more frontloaded damage with a +25 modifier

[brittle turtle]

it all depends if he wants it for horde or elites

[rugged portal]

Yeah. Of they gave you like 5 or 6 smoke grenades, they would actually be kind of fun.

[brittle turtle]

he cant have both with those perks and blessings

[shadow dagger]

this is more or less a placeholder anyways

[quasi ledge]

Like I said, the sword is bad. Hadron broke it.

[shadow dagger]

i dont have a great melee at the moment

[quasi ledge]

Im just suggesting the highest dps alternative until you get a better one

[shadow dagger]

i just went with changing to maniac slaughterer

[brittle turtle]

I would agree with you, he should get abetter one

[shadow dagger]

dont have power cycler 2 anyways

[brittle turtle]

a good power sword is insanely valuable

[quasi ledge]

I have many more, but this is generally what you want for the Mk3 and Mk6

[quasi socket]

0/1 on attempts at mesc, the grind continues

[quasi ledge]

BM is more beneficial that slaughter on the mk6 because of the perfectly horizontal slashes. They hit weakpoints along the entire swing resulting in higher damage vs hordes. There is a vid on it.

On mk3 you wanna stick with slaughter tho since it's basically a lawn mover unless you are always using heavies in which case BM can also be used

[slate sleet]

whats the point of the powersword when the new shovel slaughters chaff and 1 shots specials?

[hybrid silo]

any tips to get the on overwatch penance?

[slate sleet]

whats that one?

[quasi socket]

patience, practice, playing safe, all the grenades

[slate sleet]

no miss or dont get hit?

[brittle turtle]

powersword with right perks mows through hordes and elites

[quasi ledge]

Correctly set up pswords melt everything and have zero weakness besides the shitty dodge distance

[quasi socket]

no melee damage

[brittle turtle]

no skill required

[slate sleet]

stealth with camo expert

[quasi ledge]

The shovels are great, but the pswords are just on a different level when you have the right stuff

[midnight mortar]

Being able to do this.

[quasi ledge]

Yes this is the video I was talking about!

Thank you

[brittle turtle]

also, the one combo crusher

[midnight mortar]

And the 2 hit crushers to the head push attack -> light combo.

[brittle turtle]

having a weapon thats so flexible changes your life

[quasi ledge]

As far as raw dps killing power goes, powersword is the best melee weapon you can possibly run assuming you were lucky and got a properly rolled one.

[brittle turtle]

not even that good, still very useful

[quasi ledge]

The knife comes in 2nd just because of the sheer utility and speed. Much more of a hard-carry weapon.

[fleet garden]

which axe

the new one?

the new chain axe*

ok

power sword rules supreme though

[brittle turtle]

think this one is better

[fleet garden]

it does what?

ok

[brittle turtle]

it becomes a combat axe except it has a better movepool, better cleave, better damage, faster, doesnt get stuck

almost the same thing

[slender turtle]

Is that how they work?

[forest blaze]

It’s arguably overtuned

[brittle turtle]

im amazed fatshark didnt nuke the power sword

[slender turtle]

Which one

[brittle turtle]

its amazingly busted

[forest blaze]

Yah

[brittle turtle]

axe is fine, but it cannot be compared to power sword

[forest blaze]

Power sword has been nerfed many times hahaha

[slender turtle]

Yeah and im asking which one, which axe

[brittle turtle]

what weaknesses ?

[forest blaze]

Shitty dodge and always needing to charge it up

[midnight mortar]

CAxe 2. The Rashad.

[brittle turtle]

it deals with hordes, elites, bosses, good blessings

[slender turtle]

Ahh ok. I remember the twins fight, you and i were discussing it but i never got a chance to ask more about it

[brittle turtle]

the charge can be fastened with the push attack

[forest blaze]

Literally go roll up a Rashad and compare hahah

[brittle turtle]

in fact the push attack one shots 80% of the enemies

[forest blaze]

Yes. But go try the Rashad.

[finite imp]

Is someone in here trying to argue math with azreal

[slate sleet]

im sure its not quite as strong on vet compared to zealot

[forest blaze]

The funny part is that you’re not doing anything super crazy gameplay wise.

[tall torrent]

Hadron cooked

[finite imp]

Well yeah it's to demonstrate the weapon not Azreal sweat

[quasi socket]

custom group here i go...

[terse idol]

It'll help you see better

[umbral scaffold]

"LFM twins hardmode"

[terse idol]

Like ideally

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/bCnow.gif

[forest blaze]

Forgot to teabag them

[terse idol]

People need to throw the smoke either far away inbetween shooters that are shooting long range

Or

At your feet

[finite imp]

It's probably one of the best weapons in the game

[terse idol]

Where your vision isn't obscured as much

[brittle turtle]

we are talking veteran, and here you are posting zealot clips

[forest blaze]

I throw them where my team will benefit the least and be hindered the most

[umbral scaffold]

after rolling thousands of columnus's unsuccessfully i finally got one with dumdum

[finite imp]

And if you don't believe me you haven't been playing axe right

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

life is worth living

[finite imp]

It's stupid

[abstract flare]

Is scavenger the only good aura?

[forest blaze]

I turned away from Rashad and PS6. They’re just so ridiculously overtuned.

[terse idol]

okay to be fair

You need to kinda

[umbral scaffold]

Si

[terse idol]

RNG a good rashad

[forest blaze]

I have a great Rashad

[terse idol]

As far as I can tell it won't be good out of the box

[umbral scaffold]

+5 damage or +5 speed for people who act totally allergic to you because you arent a speed zealot, or ammo for every elite you kill hmm i wonder what i should get

[finite imp]

Well uh

Yeah

I like my good weapons to be good

[slate sleet]

what are these webms supposed to show

exactly

that zealot is a good melee class with a good melee weapon?

[finite imp]

Rashad kill time

[slate sleet]

i unfold funny shovel and 1 shot ogryn

[finite imp]

You got part of it

[slate sleet]

vet has some juicy melee talents but no way its better compared to zealot

[brittle turtle]

vet has crits and damage for free

[slate sleet]

why the rashaad?

hows it compare to the other axes i never really tried any of them besides amtax

[austere mica]

I love my Plasma

[brittle turtle]

perks synergize with each other so that the more you hit and kill, the faster things die

[terse idol]

Thermal resistance dump

This kills

Gahhh

[austere mica]

I need to quick shoot

[slate sleet]

whats a perfect rashad look like

[austere mica]

I'd much rather fire less faster

[terse idol]

Whatever floats your boat homie

In myyy house we dump abit of ammo and charge rate for max TR

WHEEZE

[fresh jungle]

What are the Rashad stat requirements? IIRC people said they were somewhat strict

[brittle turtle]

My issue with axe on vet is that you need to build for it

power sword is a no brainer, doesnt need crits, or effort, or skill

[terse idol]

I'm gonna say it but, if you're building exclusively for Rashad yeah that's acceptable

You gotta wooork for it

[slate sleet]

stinky servitor was selling this bad boy i guess its a sign

[terse idol]

And it seems like it'll treat you well

[steep vault]

out performed

lmfao

[low wagon]

you make very compelling case for Rashad, thanks for write up, I'll check it for sure

what build are you running with that Rashad?

[slate sleet]

im kinda bored of m1shovel anyway

[steep vault]

Rashad is goated

I love axes

don't like the aesthetics tho

[slate sleet]

voice of cringe melee vet is unkillable

[finite imp]

@finite imp that's not even a maybe

[midnight mortar]

This is it.

[quasi ledge]

Give me back the +5 maniac you stole

[terse idol]

So why do you that?
Does it gurantee a higher chance for a t4?

[steep vault]

what the fuck

[finite imp]

Vet is the strongest class. People just see a skill ceiling.

[midnight mortar]

Hot period at Brunt's

[slate sleet]

i love how you can eat a pox bomb, sniper shot, mauler/crusher overhead and it wont even do health dmg

[midnight mortar]

Spend dockets now.

[brittle turtle]

holy shit its a good one you got still

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-smoke-pulp-fiction-ron-gif-18855574

[quasi ledge]

Rooting for yours to end up like mine.

[terse idol]

Now I gotta ask, do we got stats to back that up?
I had like 1 roll where I did roll for a t4
Got a t4

Then I did it again

Got a t3

[midnight mortar]

Nevermind, it's over.

[slate sleet]

isnt the archlys also really good

[terse idol]

It seems like it does help, because I didn't randomly get a t2 or t1 blessing but

[steep vault]

🙏

I'll take it

[serene sage]

well since we are posting axes, this is correct yes?

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Still annoyed.

[steep vault]

I don't need a godroll

[quasi ledge]

I feel like I have godrolls for everything

[serene sage]

does it matter if I don't intend to take the melee route?
can I hit break points still

I can start chopping bruisers head at 2 stacks of headtakers

[steep vault]

is first target important?

[midnight mortar]

Was being lazy/autopilot brute force mode.

[quasi ledge]

VERY

[midnight mortar]

Inspect it.

You'll see why.

[terse idol]

[charred torrent]

i guess hadron hasnt forsaken me

Imma swap surgical, but still

and probably dmg vs maniacs

[slate sleet]

big dub from hardon

[serene sage]

why does antax and rashad look the same with skin on

sadge

[quasi ledge]

infested

[serene sage]

it's so that you can one shot busters in melee better 👍

just

[brittle turtle]

I've started to like surgical more and more over impact

its good to have one with surgical and another with impact

[quasi ledge]

I can swap impact to anything, but I prefer it

it's perfect

[charred torrent]

which enemies even are infested? I know dogs, but anything else?

[quasi ledge]

dogs, bursters and poxwalkers

[charred torrent]

oh thats uh.... yeah, not really good on axe then

[quasi ledge]

it's not good on ANYTHING

[charred torrent]

...i wanna battleaxe

that is all

[brittle turtle]

cant go wrong with maniac and flak

[sharp ember]

manifesting plague bearers to beef up the Infested enemy lineup

[slate sleet]

brutal momentul lets you actually cleave chaff right

[steep vault]

do I want brutal momentum or should I wait for a better chainsword

[brittle turtle]

damage could be better

its not terrible

[steep vault]

I don't think I can get another weapon to this blessing config again

[sharp ember]

yes, a must-have for all combat axes. Resets your cleave up to 4x on headshot kill. Basically increasing your kills by 4 per swing

[sharp ember]

chainsword doesn't get brutal momentum?

ah mb

[slate sleet]

i dunno it feels way weaker vs muntants

im too used to 1 shotting every special with funny shovel by now

[steep vault]

do I keep it tho?

[terse idol]

with now rng works you wiiill

[slate sleet]

[sharp ember]

I think the mk13 chainsword needs wrath as a mandatory blessing

[slate sleet]

KOMMANDOS

[sharp ember]

since your only horde-clear move is light spam

maaaybe it can get away with Shred

[candid tundra]

should I get this to earn shred? (it's on my psyker)

[brittle turtle]

if you really need shred, spend the dough

[sharp ember]

if you have melkbucks to spare yeah

too bad vet doesn't have any crit melee synergy talents like zealot

[brittle turtle]

say wut

[sharp ember]

oh yeah, Exploit Weakness

I am never using that karking talent ever

crit-dependent, doesn't increase crit rate, only 20% rending when you should be using a weapon effective against armor anyway

[brittle turtle]

meme build

[lusty jewel]

When can I get the involuntary chest reduction surgery on my Krieg chest piece undone?

I paid good money for that chest piece >:v

[candid tundra]

idk if I need it, but if it's good I'll get it

[sharp ember]

you are no longer allowed to have chest pouches big enough to hold astartes heavy bolter magazines

[junior grail]

Imagine characters having breasts in Darktide haha

[midnight mortar]

You paid money for an intern to reduce the Z axis.

[midnight mortar]

Enjoy your premium high effort extended development cycle cosmetic.

[lusty jewel]

Tips on what to swap out on this Lucius Lasgun?

[midnight mortar]

Sustained Fire to Onslaught.

And sprint efficiency isn't great, but that's what you've got to work with.

[sharp ember]

sprint efficiency for longer bayonet charges

[lusty jewel]

I usually use onslaught but it charges so fast already it feels redundant

[flint garden]

why whenever i play zealot it feels like discount vet

[brittle turtle]

I've tried to like helbores but i cant manage them

[lusty jewel]

I have tier 4 surgical I could swap out for tier 3 surgical

[midnight mortar]

They only really synergize best with exec stance since F draws your ranged weapon immediately.

[lunar scaffold]

How are the new 5 weapons for vet in terms of melee? Are they good? Any all rounders?

[lusty jewel]

I have basically all but one of the tier 4 blessings for the helbore Lasgun so

[midnight mortar]

Less important in my opinion than getting another blessing with higher contribution to damage.

[brittle turtle]

chainaxe is fun, shovel is fun

[midnight mortar]

And you say the mk1 charges fast, meanwhile I'm over here with the mk2 feeling like the mk1 is slow as mud.

[lusty jewel]

Should I do Tier 4 burning on crit then or onhslaught. Also I just switched off my previous best Lucius which was a MK3 so the MK2 feels so fast

[midnight mortar]

Infernus doesn't net you much value except somewhat against bosses.

Against elites you're killing them with the gun before burning even hits a breakpoint.

[lusty jewel]

Here was my old best one

[midnight mortar]

Couldn't stand the mk3. Input buffering issues still plague that weapon.

And the bayonet is awful.

[lusty jewel]

YES

I HATE THE BAYONET

If they made it so you swung it horizontally and hit multiple enemies with it maybe

[brittle turtle]

maybe whats wrong is that i tried the mk3 before mk1 and 2

[lusty jewel]

I have all helbore lucius tier 4 blessings except for falter

So I can put any of those on

[midnight mortar]

I'd recommend onslaught regardless.

The faster you max charge, the faster your damage ramps up to maximum.

The faster you can apply your full damage down range.

[rotund wind]

onslaught/surgical is my fav setup

[lusty jewel]

True, but surgical the longer I hold down my sights the higher chance of crit is my other thought

Cuz the stack ends on shot

[midnight mortar]

Yeah the mk3 is really held down by input buffering and the bayonet.

[lusty jewel]

Which is really too bad because it has the best iron sight of the three

[slate sleet]

whats the difference between brittleness and rending

[midnight mortar]

I also hated the iron sights on the helbores.

Without the weapon customization mod, I wouldn't be able to use them.

[brittle turtle]

rending is only for you, brittleness is for the team

[midnight mortar]

Brittleness is a debuff everyone can take advantage of.

[lusty jewel]

The helbore's iron sights are rough. I make do for Krieg.

[midnight mortar]

Rending is a buff applied only to you.

[midnight mortar]

While that is true, you also lose out on overall DPS and TTK if you're purposely waiting for crit chance.

The idea is that the blessings provide you a balance of both worlds.

You fire fast at max damage while building surgical stacks.

[analog blaze]

How do you like it compared to old chainaxe? The new one seems worse with horde clear, but it may just be the blessings I have.

[midnight mortar]

The surgical stacks only go away when the shot will crit.

[lusty jewel]

Fair enough then I will swap sustained fire out for Onslaught then

[midnight mortar]

So firing fast doesn't really cost you anything.

[lusty jewel]

I just wanted to have two t4 blessings a little bit but xD

[midnight mortar]

Understandable.

Thankfully the Helbore isn't as reliant on t4 as other weapons.

[lusty jewel]

But surgical t4 only has the difference of .05 seconds on chargetime

[slate sleet]

you know now that i compared the trees

why is vet better at melee compared to zealot

[lusty jewel]

I swap back and forth between left and middle trees so

idk bout melee

[rotund wind]

cause vet is squishy and can die very fast if you dont know what youre doing and zealot never dies even if youre bad

[midnight mortar]

Azreal could likely give you an exhaustive answer, given their outlier outlook of the benchmark being soloing auric maelstrom as veteran.

[sharp epoch]

the only reason vet might be better is not cause of talents

its cause of power sword ability to deal with armor

[brittle turtle]

veteran gets melee perks for essentially free, but they are squishier

zealot never die, but they have to work for their damage more than vet

[lusty jewel]

Current veteran build for middle tree abilities

[sharp epoch]

zealot and ogryn need a whole lot less skill to survive because of their innate dr

[brittle turtle]

power sword is not why vet is better, the power sword is the perfect multi tool cause it doesnt need any build for it, but veteran with the right perks and weapon is insane

[sharp epoch]

any other weapons that zealot and vet share the zealot will perform better with it like combat axe and catachans and chain weapons

[brittle turtle]

if you go left tree as vet, picking power sword is a no brainer, but right side on vet is where things get spicy

[toxic leaf]

from the emperor's gift, what do with it?

[sharp epoch]

im sure azrael uses power sword when he says veteran is the best class on the game for melee too

[sharp epoch]

just change both perks to maniac and flak

[lusty jewel]

This is my left tree vet build

[fleet garden]

I played mostly left side but after doing hardmode twins I went voc because its broken

[lusty jewel]

I been using voc a lot lately

[brittle turtle]

I would go with crit chance and maniac, or carapace, but maniac /carapace is probably better

[fleet garden]

psword or chainsword with columnus is so good

[lusty jewel]

It's a nice button if you're trying to get a sniper or a flamer or something, but you're also surrounded. It gives you a second to shoot a far away target

[frank ether]

do you think this is worth sour milk coins?

[brittle turtle]

ironically mobility is a good stat on knife

[frank ether]

dont need more than 50

[torn gorge]

and what would be above a rashad?

[fleet garden]

psword

[frank ether]

every single stat is good on knife is the problem

[runic saffron]

who needs reload speed amirite

[lusty jewel]

Thoughts on this powersword?

It has 3 more power points than my shovel

[brittle turtle]

uhh

sorry, but you need the blessings for additional powered hits

points arent everything

[lusty jewel]

It hurts not having that yeah

I do like my shovel though

[brittle turtle]

a weapon at 546 with bad perks and blessings will perform much worse than one at 490 with decent perks and blessings

[fleet garden]

which axe are ppl using

is it the mk II combat axe

[serene sage]

rashad yes

[onyx moss]

What Blessings are best for a horde-clear Power Sword? Power Cycler and Sunder?

[serene sage]

PC and Brutal Momentum

[fleet garden]

ok

[brittle turtle]

power cycler is a must regardless of what you want to do

[quaint valve]

New Chainsword better than old one? This worth the melk monies?

[brittle turtle]

momentum is better, rampage used to be glitched but now isnt anymore and momentum is better

[fleet garden]

you want this on your psword

[lusty jewel]

My sword not having PC is pretty rough ngl

[brittle turtle]

if it doesnt have pc, its not worth using

doesnt vet gets 10 % innate crit compared to zealot's 5 %

[lusty jewel]

I'm holding onto it at least. Eventually I can put PC on it instead of Supercharge

When I unlock that blessing

[quaint valve]

What are you taking to get more crit on vet in melee?

[serene bough]

Powersword is fun

I like using it once in a while

[sharp ember]

we are the hammer of the Emperor with a only slightly reinforced handle

[serene bough]

But shovel is always my go to

[frank ether]

oi, mind if I ask a quick question

what perks do you run on your braced revolver

[serene bough]

Doesn't zealot trigger blazing piety almost all the time though

[frank ether]

I kinda wanna do the its high noon meme build

I got one with unyielding/carapace and meme blessings

[torn gorge]

dueling is also relatively comparable to axe for psyker

mainly because how well it integrates with the class

[brittle turtle]

but it has PARRY

[frank ether]

what build? executioner+focus mark I assume?

[brittle turtle]

oh

oh wait, dueling for psyker

my bad

[lusty jewel]

I like these base stats at least

[frank ether]

I'd appreciate

[quaint valve]

roll it up

[sharp ember]

my melee wishlist is a trench mace and a commissar’s power cutlass

[lusty jewel]

I need more plasteel before I can roll it up 😛

I'm always in the plasteel hole

Thousands of diamantine and credits, no plasteel

[torn gorge]

out of curiosity are there people here playing with RT at 2k or above?

and if so what gpu

beside the obvious 4090

[serene sage]

1440p but no RT

[frank ether]

thanks, I'd appreciate

[serene sage]

cause AMD sucks ass at RT

[torn gorge]

im already at 1440p without RT

but the allure of darktide with RT is undeniable

[quaint valve]

i never even tried turning on RT

[serene sage]

it doesn't look that much different tbh

[torn gorge]

it really does change a lot

but you wont see that much in a static image

[serene sage]

I mean I ran around in the Torrent with RT on (and an excruciating 45fps)

[torn gorge]

try a blackout mission or one with lot of volumentric fogs/effects

[serene sage]

for a game

and didn't realize much difference

[torn gorge]

45fps

thats like half of acceptable fps

[serene sage]

life of an AMD user

[frank ether]

I can do like 60fps 1080P, with 6800XT

RT pretty much halves my fps

thanks 💜

[serene sage]

how many frames do you get normally?

assuming 1440p

[frank ether]

I cap it at 120 and it usually sits there

dont do 1440p

cause monitor 1080P

[serene sage]

fair 👍

Does reciprocity proc on ranged now?

[brittle turtle]

vet isnt 10 % base

?

[serene bough]

Just melee

[brittle turtle]

my life is a lie

[serene sage]

then 25% from recip also seems a little situational?

[quaint valve]

I never took reciprocity, is it consistent?

does it refresh timer?

[brittle turtle]

if you arent dodging, arent you technically either already dead or dying ?

[quaint valve]

I thought each stack last 8 seconds

oh shoot, that is better then

[torn gorge]

you can get both raw power and attack speed if you go martyrdom instead though

[serene bough]

Idk as long as you're in melee combat it's pretty easy to trigger

[torn gorge]

on axes especially martyrdom is kinda goated ngl

[serene bough]

I bring it on most of my builds bc its just good dps

[torn gorge]

just get to 3 wounds or so

still plenty of wiggle room

martyrdom also gives you much more DR

momentum has no AS either

[wary galleon]

[torn gorge]

[serene sage]

what are these guys called?

[torn gorge]

bruisers

[wary galleon]

emo

we had them alot in school

[serene sage]

but there is a dreg bruiser right?

the bucket heads?

[brittle turtle]

most flaks are unarmored on head and flak everywhere else, dregs are the other way

yeah, and mauler have flak body but carapace head

the twin bosses have like 3 types too

why does infested even exist

[serene sage]

to make the boltgun feel horrible when shooting dogs

[torn gorge]

[brittle turtle]

dont remind me

why spend 5 bolter ammo when one revolver bullet does the trick

it would grab my adhd attention too much

big green thing on the side

[serene sage]

what is everyone's favorite? mine in order

orange
blue
green
yellow

[brittle turtle]

or yellow, or red

[torn gorge]

should have at least coloured the symbol of the stimm in the UI

[brittle turtle]

green is always useful

if not for you, a teammate in need

[serene sage]

honestly the thing with green is I acutally never end up using it

[torn gorge]

blue is nice on some weapons

the slow ones

[serene sage]

with red can kill bosses quickly

[rose yarrow]

what perks and blessings do yall recommend for the new shovels?

[torn gorge]

i default to blue or green tbh

[fresh mango]

Why couldnt you have been grey or green

[brittle turtle]

can the cooldown one allow ogryns to get the charge penance i wonder

[sudden sundial]

alright best primaries

[brittle turtle]

if you get lucky on the last blessing, its not that bad

[sudden sundial]

i need something to build

[serene sage]

how does yellow help on DPS?

like for VoC stagger so you can headshot?

[brittle turtle]

yellow is speed or damage, forgot

[serene sage]

yellow is CDR

[amber vapor]

How is this blessing on combat axe, compare to said Headtaker

[brittle turtle]

oh, thought it was blue

[serene sage]

blue is speed, like fire rate, reload, etc.

red is damage and rending

[brittle turtle]

i never end up using any except healing i feel

i know blue gives lot of stamina, also increase attack speed ?

[serene sage]

yeah, reload, attack speed (so fire rate and melee rate), reduce stamina cost

[torn gorge]

i think also gives something to psyker

like reduction in cast time

or w/e

[serene sage]

sir, this is #veteran-class

we don't talk about them freaks

remember you don't need weird power to make a difference

[torn gorge]

imagine not having 4 classes

[brittle turtle]

imagine not having 6 characters

[analog blaze]

Also increases plasma charge rate I believe

[dark blaze]

Imagine playing warhammer

[placid portal]

Blue Stimms do be fun to use

Inject for immediate stamina & speeeed

[serene bough]

I only have ogryn and vet maxed

800 something hours later lol

[young fern]

whats a good build with agripinaa VIII?

[raw steppe]

Tag build is not bad with brauto

[brittle turtle]

I wonder who's more sturdy, ogryns or zealots

[young fern]

ah i see

[serene sage]

it's wack when you're playing the game
my guy you solo Maelstrom
99.9% of players can't
it's easier to play vet as ranged and zel as melee and psy as, well, psykers

[brittle turtle]

so ogryn is more consistent while zealot is just insane

[serene sage]

so people will do that

[brittle turtle]

I get flamed so many times i pick gun as psyker

[quasi socket]

got as gift. boost or destroy?

[brittle turtle]

if the team doesnt have a vet with the ammo perk, i'm almost guarranted to have someone comment on me taking ammo

[brittle turtle]

supercharge isnt needed, imo its not looking good

maybe you'll get lucky, upgrade to purplr and see

[quasi socket]

boosted up a different one...wheres my pc4?

[serene sage]

almost 600 hours in, i have never had anyone saying that to me tbh

[brittle turtle]

I got it the very first time i tried gun psyker one month ago

[oblique belfry]

As my psykers usually says, if you wanted it you should have been faster

[brittle turtle]

to be fair, heavy laspistol does eat ammo like crazy

but still

[serene sage]

wait isn't the las pistol one of the most ammo efficient gun in the game?

cause shocktroop means you never have to pick up ammo ever

[brittle turtle]

not when you shoot like a crazed monkey while trying not to break your mouse because you didnt instal the automatic shooter mod

also, shocktroop is veteran

isnt it ?

but on the psyker, its another story

[serene sage]

oh

lmao

well i thought we are talking about vet

[brittle turtle]

yeah, fair, its vet room

[fleet garden]

so I just made this

[serene sage]

nice

deathspitter to dum dum

[brittle turtle]

dont bother trying to get power cycler 4 like that*

[serene sage]

and it's solid

[brittle turtle]

wait for melk to sell one with it

[fleet garden]

I like raking fire but ye ill prolly reroll to dum dum

[quasi socket]

have been for about a week now

[brittle turtle]

power cycler 3 does the job decently til then

[quasi socket]

thats what im using now in lieu of pc4

[brittle turtle]

you can still one combo crushers with momentum

its just worse for hordes

[fleet garden]

hunting for dum dum IV now

[quasi socket]

well i didnt know bout the push to la combo, so now im working on getting that down

[fleet garden]

time to get a combt axe

[quasi socket]

should i sub out sunder for bm?

[midnight mortar]

Yes.

BM is essential.

[fleet garden]

dum dum & fire frenzy or dum dum & raking fire on a columnus

[brittle turtle]

rampage was glitched to stack multiple times for power sword so you could argue before it was as good as momentum, its not anymore and momentum is a must on power sword

[raw steppe]

Low stability gonna feel a bit shitty

If you need to hit stuff at mid or long range

[tall torrent]

after trying both mk1 and mk2 helbore
I think mk2 is better in majority of situations

[rancid shale]

Has anyone here managed to get a Vraks VII headhunter with good enough rolls to one-shot body-shot shooters?

[tall torrent]

the only common breakpoint mk1 hits that mk2 can't is flamer one tap headshot without crit

[tall torrent]

pretty sure it one taps all shooters in the head by default?

[rancid shale]

sorry, I meany body shot

[tall torrent]

wouldn't count on that

[raw steppe]

I dont think it hits body shot BPs

[tall torrent]

bodyshots are just rly weak in this game

always aim upper chest/head

[raw steppe]

If you want a body shot weapon you prob just wanna use shredder or brauto

[broken spade]

it's called a headhunter for a reason

[raw steppe]

Bootyhunter

[rancid shale]

From what I can tell in the breakpoint calculator, a perfect one should be able to one-shot bodyshot with executioner's stance

[raw steppe]

😼

[raw steppe]

Sounds awful lol

[tall torrent]

it's a headshot weapon anyways

[raw steppe]

Just shoot them in the head

And you dont need exe

[tiny summit]

Im pretty lax before I called something bricked but come on hadron...you do this to a 379?

[quasi socket]

damn

[brittle turtle]

lmao

hadron straight up took a dookie on it

[raw steppe]

This is why i recommend rolling from brunts instead of buying from shop

Cuz you start off

With a weapon

Thats 90% bricked

[tiny summit]

it was a blue 379 in brunt's shop...

[brittle turtle]

you might be better off throwing it at the heretics rather than using it

[raw steppe]

Bullshit

[brittle turtle]

even Nurgle will be disgusted

[raw steppe]

It has tier1 blessing

[ivory moon]

Hello, i want to ask if someone of the vets here had a bug with the sound of the plasma after the karnak brothers DLC

[tiny summit]

I thought I could win out the 2 upgrades

[raw steppe]

I dont even think that can roll from a consecrate

[quasi socket]

been a bug for a while with ghosting shots

[obtuse raft]

Yeah plasma is sometimes just not playing sound/showing the tracer RN

[broken spade]

i think he meant the other shop, not realizing that brunts specifically means the grey shop

[quasi socket]

dont see a projectile but animation plays and still does damage

[raw steppe]

Ye so it started off with 2 useless stats

[onyx moss]

It's really disorienting, lol

[sullen scarab]

Is this a good pickup from Melk's? Unyielding a good perk for the new laspistol for fighting bosses?

[raw steppe]

Odds were stacked against you from the start

Buy from brunts armory

Not the shop

[fleet garden]

my last had like 70 stab so not much of a differance

[onyx moss]

What's the best weapon to use for Make Every Shot Count?

[brittle turtle]

revolver

[broken spade]

plasma not playing sound sometimes feels really jarring

[raw steppe]

Try out an 80 stab vs a 50 stab in the meat grinder

And you shall see

[brittle turtle]

got it first try with revolver, no brain involved, just make yourself discret cause if your team realizes what you are doing, they aint gonna like it

[fleet garden]

ye but 50 is not 63 and getting a mob dump stat 370+ is hard

[raw steppe]

You can dump mob and ammo

Ammo scales from 50-60

[ivory moon]

Thanks it was getting me mad, cuz sometimes you get overcharge with the ghosting sound, hope fatshark fix the bug

[onyx moss]

I just suck at aiming, lol

[raw steppe]

So it can be slightly lower rolled

[brittle turtle]

shoot the revolver into hordes, cant miss

[onyx moss]

So Revolver? Should I aim for one with low ammo and high stab?

[raw steppe]

Dmg, stab and stopping power are the stats that need to high roll

[onyx moss]

my bad. Revolver doesn't have those. Forgor

[quasi socket]

i guess thanks brunt

[limber egret]

got my self a new plasma gun

less damage sadly then my older one

but it has tier 4 gets hot and i can add in blaze away

and has good perks atleast

which i can also switch out the crit hit chance with unyielding

tho thoughts on this plasma gun?

[brittle turtle]

all the plasma guns i attempted got bad stats

[limber egret]

my old one for comparsion

or here sorry

better image of it

[raw steppe]

33% charge rate

[fleet garden]

getting these rolls on a better stab will be hard, will try later but I can live with low stab tbh

[limber egret]

i dont mind the charge rate

i just want pure damage

and lots of ammo

[brittle turtle]

then you want the charge rate

[raw steppe]

Yeah charge rate affects ur dps

If you care about dmg

[ivory rock]

I love when enemies just line up for bullet breakfast

[limber egret]

its not that big of a difference from what im seeing

[brittle turtle]

thermal resistance is the stat for dumping if you only want to shoot big damage lots of time

[tall torrent]

For plasma gun u want unarmored + carapace/elite as perks
Blessings don’t matter as much

[raw steppe]

Unarmored is trash lol

You can easily hit the gunner breakpoint

[brittle turtle]

why unarmored

[raw steppe]

Through other means

[tall torrent]

Unarmored enables the 1 shot Dreg gunner without VF

[raw steppe]

Without wasting a perk

[limber egret]

im usually headshotting gunners tho

i one shot them pretty much all the time

i got good aim so it works well for me

[raw steppe]

You can hit it with tag self buff, marksman focus, longshot or even 10% elites perk (which will work on everything else as well)

[limber egret]

tho i also stacked weakspot damage

[raw steppe]

Go to meat grinder

And test your dmg against 1400 hp gunner

And see if you one shot

[brittle turtle]

there are lots of way for veteran to one shot dregs gunners without unarmored perk i'm pretty sure

[raw steppe]

It does actually take a bit of investment

To hit that breakpoint

[tall torrent]

I’m aiming to spend as little points as possible in left tree

[brittle turtle]

its better to spend the perk on damage that matters, like bosses, carapaces

[tall torrent]

And unarmored makes Dreg gunner 1 shot way less of a point investment

[raw steppe]

Yep, you can utilize keystone, or longshot talent or executioners or elites perk which imo is decent

Cuz it works on bulwarks, ragers, crushers as well

I would probably run with elites/maniacs/ unyielding

[tall torrent]

Elite 10% needs another elite 15% on top of tag I think

[raw steppe]

Some combination of those

[raw steppe]

Ye you should be taking the good talents on vet tree lmao

[tall torrent]

That 15% extra elite is 2 extra point investment to a breakpoint

[raw steppe]

I dont recommending skipping stuff like 15% elite dmg, 30% weakspot dmg, 25% ammo

Thats just dumb

[tall torrent]

15% elite is not needed if u can reach breakpoint without it

Most guns don’t need it

[raw steppe]

By wasting perk

Huge waste imo

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t call it a waste of perks

[raw steppe]

Unarmored works against one enemy type

[brittle turtle]

Plasma has innate very big boss damage, so unyielding is a must

[raw steppe]

Its just half of a type of enemy

[brittle turtle]

from there, you use plasma for crushers too, therefore carapace

[raw steppe]

Its the unarmored gunners

Maniac hits 2 big breakpoints, crit body flamer and noncrit head flamer

[sudden sundial]

anyone got a build for the new shovel

[raw steppe]

Unyielding lets you kill bulwarks and reapers with -1 shot

And helps boss dmg

Elites works on pretty much everything you want it to help on, plus it lets you hit gunner BP without unarmored

[brittle turtle]

unyielding is not negociable, its a must have, maniac can be argued against carapace

[raw steppe]

Unarmored is just

Super useless

Big waste of a perk slot

To hit BP on one type of enemy, and half of that enemy type mind

Since the other half gunners are flak head

[sudden sundial]

wait, whats the best shovel

mk3 or 4

[limber egret]

well is the plasma gun i got good tho right?

the new one?

[brittle turtle]

did that mutant just exploded in two

[sharp ember]

those charge rate dump stats are badass lol

they both look simiarly good

[ivory rock]

For the blood god mod, I have enemy gibbing and ragdoll ramped

Sometimes crushers tops will go flying into fukin space lmao

[serene sage]

my man keeps holding M1 on to the poxbusters while teammates scramble to get away like a true chad

[quick moth]

I'm happy with this!

[serene sage]

my man don't give a fuck

[limber egret]

you mean its horrible?

[ivory rock]

Normally I don't but it was one of those "I cant let go of m1" moments

[brittle turtle]

the perks dont matter with those blessings

so yeah its good

[sharp ember]

it certainly could be higher, but it's fine to play around. I have one just like it

[quick moth]

got lucky and melk sold me the power cycle 4 and brutal momentum 4 took me about 4 rolls to get

[sharp ember]

I would use the one with Gets Hot 4

they're basically identical once you swap out crit chance

[limber egret]

oh the one with gets hot 4 is the new one i just got

[ivory rock]

Agri Mk1 underrated af imma say it, the thing tears thru literally everything

[limber egret]

i just need more plasteel to add unyielding

tho is unyielding a good perk right?

[raw steppe]

Underrated = literally everyones been using it

Lololol

[sharp ember]

yep, helps with monsters and bulwarks and maybe reapers

[ivory rock]

I swear I never see anyone with it

[sharp ember]

the biggest appeal to me being monsters

damn beasts of nurgle guzzling my plasma ammo

[ivory rock]

Damn beast of nurgle guzzling me

Swear I see em start walking at me and I BOOK IT they will still chase my ass down to eat me

Always right after I just healed my wounds too

[ivory rock]

Gotta toot my own horn for that snap to the trapper after the crusher

[raw steppe]

Fair enough ppl are hooked on the colum

Not realizing that the other iag models are quite good as well

[ivory rock]

I'm hella mixed on colum

Like I like it cause haha funny fast fire rate

[raw steppe]

Its highest dps, cant dispute that

[ivory rock]

But I'm also like ehhhh still prefer agr

[raw steppe]

But it gives up a lot

To get there heh

[quasi socket]

the initial kick on it throws people off. not that great at 30+ yds either

[ivory rock]

Just wish Agri had some more distance stuff than close range, I prefer usin it from further

[quasi socket]

like when sniper spawns in on other side of the map, gotta tap w/ columnus

revolver/plasma tho? just snap and drop him

[ivory rock]

When sniper spawns I activate my stealth and run at them thru the horde of crushers and ragers

[quasi socket]

ive been runnin plasma for a few missions using a scuffed build trying my luck for mesc, it is slowly growing on me

but more so losing patience to people rocketing away in the middle of hordes/boss fights

[ivory rock]

Actually been tryin a stealth close range kantrael build, its p fun

Tryna get scattershot 4 on it tho

[elder vessel]

I had a nightmare where the Orthus insignias were class specific, and you'd have to do it 4 times to get every insignia

ciagv?

oh

[atomic zephyr]

agri iag, VoC and four shredder frags is an incredible rush

not iag

braced auto

i should try a graia braced auto...

[elder vessel]

grautoooooo

big magazine big fire rate

[atomic zephyr]

i love my agri brauto but variety never killed anyone

its still incredibly stupid that columnus is the high rof for IAGs and middle ground for brautos

[quasi socket]

scuffed build assassination, attempt 4 for mesc today

had a run that felt like a zealot was aim botting every specialist with revolver

[atomic zephyr]

lmfao, this one just got bricked didnt it

[ivory rock]

I meaannnnnn

[quick moth]

Is the power sword with brutal momentum 4 and power cycle 4 the highest sustained single target damage weapon on top of it? Curious about the math there.

[finite imp]

keyboard layout guide/............v//...,jm,6

[ivory rock]

Go for transcendent? Might be a good placeholder till you roll a better one?

[finite imp]

SORRY I AM REBUILDING A KEYBOARD

[atomic zephyr]

arent the best blessings fire frenzy/deathspitter? why would i want terrifying barrage

...true.

[ivory rock]

If last perk is good replace terrifyin n crit

[atomic zephyr]

fuck it theres a reason im stting on 12k plasteel

?

[quick moth]

I think I'm at 24k? Discord gonna rob me

[versed merlin]

jesus

how do you get so much plasteel

or am i compulsive

[atomic zephyr]

spamming damnation

[ivory rock]

Hit n run lowkey really good imo, toss sumn over ter n crit to flak or maniac n it'll be a good hold

[versed merlin]

cause i always spent everything i have building weapons that ill never use

[ivory rock]

I only do auric damn but I spend all my plasteel after every match

[atomic zephyr]

yeah i only build weapons when i want to use it

[quick moth]

I have all 4 classes and play aur damn a lot

[versed merlin]

i mean, i spam auric t5 everytime so its not that different

[atomic zephyr]

and i dont bother grinding for blessings

i just figure they'll roll around eventually

[quick moth]

Also I don't fuck with the majority of weapons and tend to prioritize the good ones

[ivory rock]

I just buy whites n greens n upgrade em to blue, got me a few blessings so far

[versed merlin]

well, maybe i am compulsive

bc i only play vet

[ivory rock]

TOO BAD ALL MY GOOD GUNS KEEP ROLLING ON MY ZEALOT

[quick moth]

If aur damn gives me something more obscure, but nice? I'll try it.

[versed merlin]

have a zealot almost geared up but i barely even touch it

[tall torrent]

Is that a dmg/SP roll related breakpoint

Cuz I can hit both without maniac

[atomic zephyr]

cooking

[ivory rock]

WHY CANT I ROLL THESE ON MY VET WHYYYYYYY

[tall torrent]

And for bulwark/reaper
Unyielding still is 2 shot no crit?

[atomic zephyr]

i solve this problem by basically never playing my zealot

[versed merlin]

ok that laspistol reskin is kinda cursed

[atomic zephyr]

what the fuck did you do to that poor laspistol

[ivory rock]

Made it a monster

Frankensteined the fuck outta it

[atomic zephyr]

the omnissiah didnt die for tihs

[versed merlin]

im not even sure how youre supposed to use that thing

much less ads

[atomic zephyr]

best gun class

wait

[ivory rock]

I main Vet / Zealot but my Vet rolls all the melee n Zealot rolls all the Ranged

lmao

[atomic zephyr]

that's not a braced autogun

close enough

is the graia brauto worth aiming with?

[quick moth]

Revolver is too strong for me to drop, but I may finally try weapon specialist something now that I have the meta power sword.

Maybe las pistol?

[ivory rock]

Plus the new knife on my zealot is so much fuckin fun....

[tall torrent]

Unless you’re talking abt crit headshot 1 tap with unyielding

[atomic zephyr]

the kantrael laspistol is cool

pocket mgxii

[versed merlin]

is reload speed that much important for revolver? can a 50% do the job? 🥹

[atomic zephyr]

how close is close ranged anyway

[versed merlin]

8m i think

i know its the same range as voc

[atomic zephyr]

yeah seems it

[ivory rock]

new revolver nbd, old one, kind of a pain in the ass

Close range is 8m n less ye

[versed merlin]

oh yeah its the old one

[ivory rock]

I'd say just take the skill that increases reload speed for killin elites n you'll be okay

[versed merlin]

oh that find was on my zealot lmao

[ivory rock]

Hrmmm

[versed merlin]

i still dont have a revolver on my zealot

[ivory rock]

You could try to fit this into your build?

[sudden sundial]

my current work in progress

[versed merlin]

where is this?

ah

damn

[ivory rock]

Middle

[versed merlin]

might have to cook a middle tree build then

[atomic zephyr]

zealots? in MY vet chat?

[ivory rock]

haha no brother hail to the shout and all that

[versed merlin]

we're all main vet here

[ivory rock]

(I only use exec and stealth)

[atomic zephyr]

lol

(i prefer exec to shout i understand)

[ivory rock]

I am a dirty dirty DPS VET

[versed merlin]

i hate exec stance man

[ivory rock]

I DONT WANT TO BE TANKY I WANT TO KILL BEFORE THEY CAN HIT ME

[atomic zephyr]

i use exec because i cant see shit

[quasi socket]

why

[sudden sundial]

i perfer infiltrate but im honestly struggling

[quasi socket]

why do people fucking sprint into a dh?

[versed merlin]

that zoom you get when you use the skill gets me lost everytime

[quasi socket]

i dont get it

[versed merlin]

infiltrate is so much better imo

[ivory rock]

Fun fact if you infiltrate with a stimm in use it fuckin blurs your screen lmao

[versed merlin]

specially with an brauto

lmao thats true

[ivory rock]

That's the accuracy tighening

[versed merlin]

its like 10000% dof

[swift narwhal]

uhm.. should i buy?

[versed merlin]

nope

[quasi socket]

run going smooth then zealot goes full pebble brain and runs straight into dh

[versed merlin]

only if you want to waste plasteel to gamble chances to get a good perk and a good blessing

[ivory rock]

I've mostly had Og run into em lol

[swift narwhal]

true

[junior grail]

Add in smoke grenades for that extra oomph

[quasi socket]

for me its the zealot, like every time

[versed merlin]

i am that zealot, im sorry

when i play zealot, i always go full monkey and start rushing

[ivory rock]

If you wanna risk it, buy it, replace falter w any t4 you got, then enhance to transcendent, might work out

[versed merlin]

things i cant do on my vet

[swift narwhal]

thats my current one (havent used any plasteel so far on it

[versed merlin]

thats not good either, im sorry

[swift narwhal]

would need to change both perks

ye

thats why im considering buyin

[versed merlin]

change between the eyes and groan perk

keep the stam and put deadshot in your tree

its not the best, but can work

[junior grail]

Deadshot is pretty forgiving now

[swift narwhal]

ye i am not satisfied but the crafting is so fruggin expensive

[versed merlin]

im not a lasgun user myself, but afaik people go with flakiac headhunter and deadly accurate on that weapon

[junior grail]

Crafting has been an issue since day 1 hahaha

[sudden sundial]

plasteel shortage is real

[swift narwhal]

ye ik xD

[raw steppe]

Check your buffs, turn off the one that gives you 15% base dmg and stuff. And no my weapon is 79/78 lol

[versed merlin]

when will i be able to trade my useless diamantines for plasteel

[swift narwhal]

wasnt diamantine considered the "rare" resource ? xD

[terse idol]

Hold on, are you implying Middle build vet with a pgun isn't dps?

[sudden sundial]

i have 3000 dia and 400 plasteel

[terse idol]

[versed merlin]

the name makes it sound like its rarer than plasteel

[quasi socket]

as rare as copper in a modern home

[terse idol]

Like as it stands playing support vet doesn't exist

Its so bad

[junior grail]

Diamantine is precious but useless haha

[terse idol]

All we have is DPS

And a smoke grenade

And VOC

[junior grail]

VoC is all a support vet needs tbh

[terse idol]

Yeah

[ivory rock]

Vet in general is dps, I just like more dps xd, every game I play I kinda just try to do as much damage as possible lol

[terse idol]

And its kiinda support

But you're fishing for VOC resets anyways

[junior grail]

I like pushing bosses off ledges with shout

[sudden sundial]

infiltrate vet with a knife and plasma rifle

[terse idol]

VoC take it down with a pgun

[versed merlin]

yeah, just play without iron will so you can have the feeling you're playing a true glass cannon

[terse idol]

Oooooh

[junior grail]

Ah yes the stealthy bright blue glowy gun

[quasi socket]

0/5 mesc attempts

[swift narwhal]

why did the damage had to be low :X

[quasi socket]

consume for onslauht

[junior grail]

Infiltrate players when they try an rescue and operative but gets stuck on poxwalkers

[fleet garden]

kek

[swift narwhal]

wdym exactly by that

[terse idol]

Infiltrate players when you're surrounded by 4 crushers all over heading you at once and they revive you

[ivory rock]

throw grenade as you pop inf to get dmg boost without breaking inf, pick up team

[terse idol]

[fleet garden]

go to hadron and eat the blessing

[ivory rock]

They mean to earn the blessin

[swift narwhal]

ah

[terse idol]

I gotta admit though when it happened it was funny

[quasi socket]

gun is a wet noodle, just take the blessing incase you get a good one

[terse idol]

Because crushers just constantly overhead downed people

[junior grail]

I know the strat, i just find shouting my problems away far easier on my blood pressure

[toxic leaf]

games are rough tonight

4 straight games, didnt last more then 10 minutes

everyone playing out of position

[fleet garden]

I just play voc

[quasi socket]

ive had to dodge ques because vets w/ scavenger, then i get 15 minutes in and people go full potato

[fleet garden]

doesnt matter 🤷‍♂️

[atomic zephyr]

man. the graia brauto is weird.

[fleet garden]

after doing twins hardmode, auric feels easy peasy

[junior grail]

I wish they buffed graia brauto

[ivory rock]

lul

[terse idol]

Huh?

[atomic zephyr]

doing the penance?

[terse idol]

Are you dodging queues because people are doubling survivalist?

[quasi socket]

trying for mesc, its not going well

[ivory rock]

Obv someone isnt taking buffed twinned blast vapes

[quasi socket]

0/6 today

[terse idol]

What's mesc?

[atomic zephyr]

make every shot count

[quasi socket]

make every shot count

[junior grail]

During the Carnival smoke ambush I'm sure

[terse idol]

Oh

[junior grail]

Make every thot count

Shot*

[terse idol]

I mean just get a premade

Don't crush your balls

[quick moth]

Is there an incentive to cleave with heavies with the power sword and PC4 or just spam lights for horde clearing?

[atomic zephyr]

im not sure how i feel about graia brauto.
the increased fire rate is nice but it just doesnt feel like it lacks the punch its bigger brother has.

[terse idol]

Survivalist is one of the best talents rn, and vets are the most played class

Don't be crushing your balls mann

[midnight mortar]

On the mk6, horde clear is light spam.

On the mk3, horde clear is with heavies.

[junior grail]

Sometimes they get Mauled instead

[sudden sundial]

ok shovel or knife, im torn

[midnight mortar]

Either way, PC makes it easier.

[junior grail]

Hi torn, depends what shovel and knife

[sudden sundial]

im really liking the overhead stab on the mk3 shovel

and ive been informed to try the mk3 knife

[junior grail]

The new knife has h1 h2 block cancel combo thats pretty fun

Especially with Haymaker

[terse idol]

Yeah its cool

[sudden sundial]

is the mk3 the new knife?

[junior grail]

Can't remember the mark, there's only two knives atm

[sudden sundial]

looks like the mk6

might level the shovel first, i like its attack pattern

[junior grail]

Folding shovel is fun

I have one that can oneshot Crushers

[sudden sundial]

light swings hit hordes, heavys/special is high single target damage

[junior grail]

Kills Crushers faster than Powersword lol

[sudden sundial]

i like the sound of that, but do i need that if im running plasma?

[junior grail]

Not really

Depends on your playstyle

[sudden sundial]

i tend to get in the thick of it

horde clear is nice

[junior grail]

Usually you want a horde clear melee weapon with your plasma

[sudden sundial]

i have a solid chainsword im leveling

[junior grail]

That'll do it

[sudden sundial]

god i need so much plasteel

gimme the ability to trade durasteel for plasteel

[junior grail]

hugs in plasteel bankruptcy

[junior grail]

Aha star wars reference

[slender turtle]

I'm just now making a zealot build without the zealot traits on a veteran

[junior grail]

Melee Vet

[slender turtle]

I want to move like one but have the abilities of a vet

[junior grail]

Just keep shouting and swinging

[slender turtle]

YES and the power sword just does it. Only sad part is not having bm on my power sword

[versed merlin]

mf

turn that cheat engine off

[junior grail]

I hope your operatives tittyies get cropped by premium cosmetics

[junior grail]

Look at this guy waving his credit cards around

Imagine being financially stable

[serene sage]

damn millenials, they are buying up all the houses

[frail bolt]

what should i replace for surgical?

[serene sage]

100% calvacade

[frail bolt]

kk

[junior grail]

Trying to fit hours between my 8-5 hahaha

[frail bolt]

nice~

[serene sage]

I just sacrifice sleep