veteran-class

[slender turtle]

tbh, smite is useful in some instances but i would prefer... Just fucking kill them instead of tazing them

[bold sierra]

I mean, what?

[serene sage]

Damn we going hard today

[winter pivot]

y'all the same that cAnCeL comedians

[forest blaze]

I finished my harassment training yesterday. Yes. There are groups you cannot joke about 😂

[serene sage]

Dude posted a bad joke and deleted it. At least they knew it's a bad joke now. Can we move on

[pearl sapphire]

lol

[serene sage]

Damn

[spark helm]

Can't wait for this one to defend the canceled comedians that turned out to be serial sexual assaulters and harassers.

[winter pivot]

THIS

[spark helm]

It's a very straight line with yall

[lime gyro]

goo goo ga ga wah wah change ur diapers

[inland orchid]

what are u, GAY?

[winter pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[inland orchid]

[pearl sapphire]

Omg

[lime gyro]

its a joke not penis stop taking it so hard

[forest blaze]

"Hey. This Tate guy has some relatable takes on freedom for being an e-pimp"

[lime gyro]

[spark helm]

It never fails.

[nimble sentinel]

damn dunkin on the gays too? aight I'm out

[lime gyro]

[winter pivot]

[spark helm]

When you really need some snickering fucks to gremlin cover your ass, it's too pathetic to me.

[lime gyro]

Shout out brogryns

[spark helm]

I already know mfkers don't act out like that in public.

[inland orchid]

not a dunk but theres only so much i can do

[pearl sapphire]

I will say, it was in poor taste, and I apologize

[inland orchid]

was makin fun of him saying straight like it a bad thing

[lime gyro]

Ok bro cool u know mfkers dont act out like that in public

[bold sierra]

this channel be like

[lime gyro]

We got it tough guy r u done now

Can we go back to talking about the game

[inland orchid]

i'd be down kazy

[spark helm]

Regular degula

[lime gyro]

Thanks me tol

[inland orchid]

whats ur favortite melee

[lime gyro]

Too

[pearl sapphire]

I’d be down with that too

[spark helm]

Just actually be funny is my only thing

[lime gyro]

I like dclaw alot ive been maining it for some time

[spark helm]

It's not too difficult

[inland orchid]

humor is subjective my friend

[lime gyro]

But i jus tried out chainsword and i like the feel

[inland orchid]

its hard to be funny to EVERYONE

[winter pivot]

Just actually shut up about it. He deleted it and apologised. Now...

[spark helm]

:/ this shit? Really?

[lime gyro]

So i think i will be sticking too that for abit now

[winter pivot]

fave melee...

[pearl sapphire]

Humor is subjective

[lime gyro]

What about u

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-tea-sipping-gif-24277205

[swift ingot]

On vet Mk IV chainsword

[winter pivot]

chsword/evi

[left comet]

nay, it's is an impossible hill to climb

[inland orchid]

exactly

[serene bough]

what vet build do people take into the karnak twins fight

[spark helm]

Could've ran with an actual fucking joke

That's it

that's all lol

[bold sierra]

Previously shovel, since the update, shovel. which shovel? shovel, of course

[serene sage]

it's not a funny joke
but we don't need to go on harping about it
we get the point
jesus christ

[winter pivot]

I clicked it, thinking it's a short clip...XD wtf

[swift ingot]

I don’t take vet for the twins

[lime gyro]

im still experimenting honestly

[nimble sentinel]

ah, I'm gay, poor timing I guess

[bold sierra]

YOU SLUMBER

A CUCUMBER

[lime gyro]

one thing for sure is medicae w corruption clearer

And krak grenades

Is a must lol

[serene bough]

i dont want to play my ogryn though

[spark helm]

nah get lit for it for two minutes minimum. the discord gon be fine

[left comet]

the show is a fever dream

[inland orchid]

is all good u lacked context i meant no harm

[forest blaze]

they: posts "kill jews" comment
everyone else: "that's fucked up"
they: "oh don't worry I'm jewish"
also they: deletes kill jews comment

💀

[pearl sapphire]

Could’ve dropped that shit as soon as I apologized for making a joke in poor taste

[serene bough]

in a vet state of mind

[fresh mango]

bolter may be my new favorite gun

[winter pivot]

THAT'S A SHOW?!

[serene sage]

haha this dude is gay

[swift ingot]

Though I’ve heard melee vet has the best luck with the twins

[crude ermine]

WITHOUT A CUCUMBER

YE BE IN A NEW TUMBLER

[fresh mango]

i just wish the magazine size was larger, 15 feels so restrictive with how slow the reload is

[bold sierra]

YOU CATCH UP ON SOME ZEDS

YOU GET OUTTA MY HEAD'S

[left comet]

Xaiver: renegade angel

[inland orchid]

i used chainaxe before they buffed devils claw parry, then after the cool shovels ive been rocking the vanguard one

[winter pivot]

https://youtu.be/h2dJ-JUzhVs

[nimble sentinel]

#veteran-class message bruh it has been known

[left comet]

on adult swim

[inland orchid]

Real nice to chunk crushers and other big elites

[bold sierra]

[winter pivot]

[slender turtle]

It was a government psyop to see what would happen to people watching it

[pearl sapphire]

That’s a fair point, I will apologize for making a joke, in poor taste and in poor community for it

[winter pivot]

anything to drown out the babs. XD

[winter pivot]

checks out lmao

[pearl sapphire]

Sorry everyone for stirring shit up over a joke

[winter pivot]

shut up about it XD t'is fine lmao

[forest blaze]

lmao

[serene sage]

if they leave it up, then you'll just say

they: posts "kill jews" comment
everyone else: "that's fucked up"
they: "oh don't worry I'm jewish"
also they: didn't delete kill jews comment

[inland orchid]

i've chased the high of thunder hammer backstab bonks and found it very appealing, i can respect the chaingreatswords tho

[serene sage]

they can't win

[nimble sentinel]

all good, unfortunately 40k is full of those types

[inland orchid]

happens to the best of us

[nimble sentinel]

can't be too careful

[pearl sapphire]

Fair

[fresh mango]

is competitive urge even worth using?

[serene sage]

one mistake and suddenly they are irredeemable, stop your circle jerking justice

christ

[inland orchid]

it def would've worked on some close friends but it was a heavy gamble here

[forest blaze]

idk why but I feel better about that 😂

[swift ingot]

Mfw 6 maulers, 4 ragers and 2 crushers pull up while fighting the twins on hard

[left comet]

topic change, shovels

[nimble sentinel]

this is why it is always correct to dunk on krieg

[compact bear]

you know its funny i try to do the TWIN battle and maybe do the HARD MODE i heard about but i just get kicked all the time to be a chainsaw with a helbore vet lol

[slender turtle]

It really wasnt but it was just so confusing and part of the list shows adult sim ran with in the early 2000s

[pearl sapphire]

Love shovels

[cosmic aurora]

It’s kraking time

[pearl sapphire]

Steel legion superiority

[spark helm]

I really wish that was the tip I'm on. I really do. Moving on.

[winter pivot]

you're deffo on some tip

[inland orchid]

then he kraked all other the place, truly inspirational

[winter pivot]

[trim breach]

Should I use the Normal Revolver or the Big Iron Revolver?
Because I just realised how satisfying it is to shoot them

[compact bear]

been kicked for useing shovels too

[swift ingot]

I’m more of a Valhallan Ice Warriors kind of guy myself

[spark helm]

Yeah. I sure am.

[pearl sapphire]

Big iron

[serene sage]

why are you hard fighting the twins?

[inland orchid]

depends how much u hate long ranged broskis, if u dont much mind them big iron

[winter pivot]

big iron is dope, but both are good

[inland orchid]

they both got their properties

[pearl sapphire]

Only answer is big iron

[left comet]

play with ogryn shovel, you won't get kicked

[swift ingot]

It’s yeehaw or nothing

[compact bear]

i dont play Ogryn lol

[trim breach]

I hate snipers though, only if my teammates dont deal with them

[fresh mango]

now that chats calmed down, competitive urge, good or bad?

[winter pivot]

my call is
Vet=Zarona
Anything else=Big Iron

[versed merlin]

is kantrael shotty any good for twins fight?

[compact bear]

i just a vet true and true eather a KRIEG or a cadian

[umbral scaffold]

preferred combat axe variant?

[pearl sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-kinda-weird-marques-brownlee-that's-somewhat-odd-it's-a-bit-strange-mkbhd-gif-15556497619560649247

[spark helm]

If you really like using it sure.

[left comet]

try it, it is like being the hulk, but better

[spark helm]

Otherwise, I wouldn't say it's like, insane.

[serene sage]

mediocre, if you somehow has a free point, go for it

[wanton dawn]

Not bad, rarely worth taking

[forest blaze]

I'm not crazy about competitive urge

[inland orchid]

i lowkey havent tried it out but judging on how its worded? aint that bad

[cosmic aurora]

Lmao why would you be kicked for using shovel

[trim breach]

rn I'm using a power sword and the big iron revolver on my vet

[nimble sentinel]

@ the team that kicked you

[compact bear]

nah no thanks for real i not intrested in ogryn they have almost no guns or melee at all

[spark helm]

I think it'd need to proc maybe like 4.2%. I'm unsure why it's not higher. Might be stupid after the math on other things but even then eh.

[compact bear]

lol

[serene sage]

kickback is the most OP gun in the game rn

[swift ingot]

It can help a fair bit against the bunches of elites

[forest blaze]

vs twins you take the focus target with 8 stacks and let your ogryn buddy machine gun their dicks into the dirt.

[spark helm]

Not like you're doing anything else that you couldn't give wiht something like dmg on yellow ping

[left comet]

I mean, big guns for big boys

[spark helm]

And that stacks cumulatively so /shrug

[compact bear]

the only thing that will get me to play ogryn is when they get a heavy boltor gun

[winter pivot]

hot DAMN thats sexy

[spark helm]

Much more guaranteed as well oddly enough.

[serene sage]

anime looking ah gun

[winter pivot]

t'is an Ogryn. It's appropriately sized XD

[compact bear]

yeah i just try to do the hole moding thing my game just crashes again XD

[spark helm]

Since that 2whateverthefuck% on competitive urge never felt like it was changing much. might've been redundant.

[vernal harbor]

Put that back

[trim breach]

because screw the cover in front of you, screw the enemies behind that cover, and probably the acceptable casualties behind those enemies and screw your hands and shoulders

[nimble sentinel]

hole moding

[versed merlin]

ty for not letting my question drowning in the zealot chat ❤️ . how would you pair plasma vs kantrael in that fight?

[swift ingot]

Ogryn’s arsenal is still pretty varied

[versed merlin]

cuz i deal 0 dmg to bosses with plasma

[left comet]

fair, but I really enjoy ogryn (More than vet and psyker) but I do like the versatility of the other classes

[left comet]

no

[swift ingot]

You don’t bring plasma to the twins for boss damage, you bring it for the 500 elites that spawn

[forest blaze]

also to headshot stagger them

because lol

[compact bear]

i mean i dont complain about that if you enjoy it more power to you ❤️ i just love vetran the most as i love the guardsmen ofcourse number 1 is sisters of battle my fav faction of all time just not alot of games allow you to play as them

[unique orchid]

Monstrosities or assassin targets? Theyre under the same enemy type but one is sometimes very resistant to ranged weapons

[quasi socket]

i tried to zealot again for a bit last night....vet feels too good.

[versed merlin]

yeah but if im only clearing elites, i feel useless

[forest blaze]

I brought this last night with plasma and chainaxe. It performed great.

[versed merlin]

smoke nade

[swift ingot]

Don’t, you are doing the emperor’s work

[forest blaze]

aye

[unique orchid]

My brother in the emperor killing elites is the Vets whole THING

[versed merlin]

explain

[cosmic aurora]

You bring smokes for the gunners? They are our priority target when we got it last night @forest blaze

[nimble sentinel]

been playing a lot of zealot lately and dear god emperor do I miss someone reliably killing all the elites

[left comet]

I like the black templar the most out of all the chapters but they never get any videogame time

[forest blaze]

sure do. one match felt like it spawned 25 gunners and another 20 shotgunners and almost instantly clapped our cheeks.

[versed merlin]

wow so many replies, thanks guys. guess ill stick to plasma and pull some head bonkers on bosses with my beloved folding shovel

[cosmic aurora]

Luckily we got it between my revolver and my friend bolter we just focused gunners as soon as they spawned

[compact bear]

i guess they are space maries ? i sadly dont like them ironicly

[forest blaze]

yah... we didn't. I took plasma and was trying to clear them all myself and it was not pretty. Smoke grenades save lives.

[cosmic aurora]

The folding shovel literally folds Rodin (plasma gun guy is weak to melee)

[left comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-gif-14451392966180113101

[swift ingot]

I was drawn to Ogryn because I love their lore and the sheer giggle factor. I enjoy being a 3 meter tall brick shit house with the biggest heart of gold in the imperium

[cosmic aurora]

So you want to focus Rodin with your shovel when you aren’t plasmaing elites

[versed merlin]

yeah, the shield. but not the health

[unique orchid]

HeavyPistol X folds most elites with a crit build

[nimble sentinel]

default mode to dig grave, minecraft mode to fill it

[versed merlin]

do i need deadshot for that?

cause i dont think deadshot is a good node for that fight at all

[swift ingot]

It’s the law for Laspistol

[unique orchid]

I run deadshot

[vernal harbor]

hell yeah you know

[slow spade]

If you run las pistol, you run Deadshot

It is the law

[serene sage]

Will we ever see a Spah Muhrine or SoB in the game? Give your hot takes now

[unique orchid]

Marking something with middle key and making it fold in two shots feels lovely

[forest blaze]

I'd love to see some chaos terminators pop in. That'd be rad.

[slow spade]

Rogue Trader got me

[cosmic aurora]

I already see SoB in the game with all the zealot cosplay we s

[serene sage]

I'm betrayed

[slow spade]

Rogue Trader fun :c

[serene sage]

Is it any good though

[unique orchid]

Maybe a sororitas if we are lucky, likely not any marines

[compact bear]

space mariens are actualy the factions that i dont care about as i just feel like they are the mother and father FAV kids and the rest are useless while the guardsmen and sisters are just humans the true hero's in my eyes

[cosmic aurora]

Rogue trader is great

[slow spade]

The game is only as hard as your willingness to read and understand

[nimble sentinel]

how's it compare to bg3? more importantly can you fuck the space marine?

[slow spade]

SO MANY bugs though

[serene sage]

I'm illiterate

[cosmic aurora]

No and if you like warhammer it’s pretty close to bg3

[spark helm]

idk how 40k works like that llike that but if we're seeing space marines in the area, aren't we fucked?

[unique orchid]

You should not be able to fuck the space marine if it is lore accurate

[versed merlin]

i heard the game is in a complete mess of bugs and shit hits the fan around chapter 4

[slow spade]

Nothing in the last decade competes with BG3 and you cannot Space Marines literally are castrated

[spark helm]

Like game over in the area for the average people right?

[cosmic aurora]

Rogue trader It’s like a 9/10 if bg3 is a 10/10

[swift ingot]

This has been me for the past 10 days

[vernal harbor]

taking this

[simple gulch]

getting back into the game after the talent reworks, anybody got any talent build recommendations? i continue to be a brauto enjoyer and i'm giving the chainsword i godrolled months ago a whirl finally

[versed merlin]

god i thought you were talking about the game gollum

[slow spade]

The main thing holding back Rogue Trader is there's so many bugs that affect the gameplay

[nimble sentinel]

I KNOW WHAT I SAID

[unique orchid]

Meanwhile im the commisar cosplayer with shout and a chainsword

[cosmic aurora]

You can’t romance the sister of battle, space marine or admech characters in rogue trader

[nimble sentinel]

ah beans (but will look into it thank ye)

[slow spade]

Enemies can shoot you but you can't, skills not working, skills WAY too well, etc etc

[swift ingot]

Brother?

[unique orchid]

Good, they wouldnt want you to begin with

[umbral scaffold]

got thrown outside the map by chaos spawn

[serene sage]

It's just mean the battle is rough, which Atoma seems to warrant an intervention imo.

[spark helm]

mm

[versed merlin]

happens at least once to every player

[cosmic aurora]

You can romance a navigator though which is kinda… hilarious to think about

[versed merlin]

you cant say you play darktide if that hasnt happened to you

[unique orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[simple gulch]

ok thanks for the build recommendations guys

[slow spade]

To compensate for being bugged to shit, your builds can be broken as fuck

[serene sage]

Can you romance the eldar though

[cosmic aurora]

Ah yea the turn stacking cassia

[unique orchid]

A question of should you more than can you, navigators are HORRIBLY inbred

[cosmic aurora]

Yes actually lol

[spark helm]

I've watched someone get warped into one of those spawn rooms that goons come out of and they couldn't get back. A mutant spawned, ignored all of us, beelined it to them and they just kept getting mutant jumped the whole time.

[slow spade]

Not just that, Versatility memes

[cosmic aurora]

You can follow papa Guilliman @serene sage

[slow spade]

There's also the funny flamer build with Argenta

[spark helm]

Not as good as L4d2 director bullshit

[cosmic aurora]

Have you done the funny sniper build @slow spade

[swift ingot]

In bread? Then take her out of it

[slow spade]

Yes, just a full map wipe 💪

[spark helm]

Darktide needs ninja spawn trappers that are already shooting. Just drop one over our heads every now and again

as a treat

[slow spade]

8 kills per turn

[forest blaze]

instead, they can shoot around corners and through cover hahahahaha

[cosmic aurora]

Between argentas versatility and sniper it’s been kinda hilarious

[thick rose]

anyone got a twin mode copy pasta for me?

[rugged goblet]

I was thrown outside the map but managed to grab on an unreachable ledge because the mission hadn't ended yet

[spark helm]

Wait that'd actually be kind of cool.

[rugged goblet]

Too bad there's no give up button

[wanton dawn]

Man I had one of smoothed twin hm run

3 ogryns

[spark helm]

Like if you're close enough and they're behind cover, they just take a blind shot with the net gun.

[swift ingot]

The navigator theme song https://youtu.be/-p8GXZcdrIk?si=55-GKpwnQDDJl_gH

[unique orchid]

[spark helm]

I mean shit the Gutterrunners do some fucking weird ass shadow clone shit every now and again.

[forest blaze]

The trapper updates threw me off A TON with their range, but after playing it's back to them being more of an annoyance than a threat.

[wanton dawn]

They were at least 6 frags bomb during the fight

[cosmic aurora]

I miss her Habsburg jaw when you equipped the lasgun

[spark helm]

Does clan eshin have access to like, voice throwing illusion magic?

I know they got some weird wh fantasy magic shit going on.

[unique orchid]

No theyre just in tunnels a whole damn lot

[spark helm]

Hard.

[forest blaze]

they have whatever the current writer gives them

[spark helm]

That's hard as hell.

[cosmic aurora]

I mean have you seen Snikch in total warhammer 3? @spark helm

He’s full anime

[spark helm]

Fucked up rat colony voice throwing

[unique orchid]

Clan eshin is the most extreme version of the VeitCong

Literal rat ninjas

[crude fiber]

Implying their nets don't clip through shit as it is

[crude ermine]

I like clan mors

[forest blaze]

that's what I was saying lmao

clan skryre or die. feed me that warpcrack and let me shoot

[spark helm]

I know that Cathay and all those other places they havea stake in are some kind of seemingly far eastern asian coding. i wouldn't know where they're gong with anything.

[unique orchid]

I like clan pestilens the most but skryre goes insane

[nimble sentinel]

Ratkin hiding-sneaking in this game? Ridiculous-silly!

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/ratling-guns-total-war-warhammer-skaven-warhammer-total-war-gif-15796051

[swift ingot]

Shout out to clan Skryre and Moulder

[spark helm]

Knnow about him from some warhammer youtube shit. book of choyer, that group.

[winter pivot]

wait, y'all play anything other than Ikit?

[unique orchid]

Yeah, i play Thorgrim

[cosmic aurora]

He’s literally zoro from one piece as a ninja rat

[unique orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-grudges-total-war-warhammer-dwarfs-dwarf-vengeance-gif-19626646

[nimble sentinel]

I need to find a lutein/AdRic analogue for AoS

[crude ermine]

Dwarf

[serene sage]

Dwarf

[umbral scaffold]

can i get the armor of heretics if i join their team

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/crone-hellebron-total-war-warhammer-har-ganeth-dark-elves-sword-of-khaine-gif-15795857

[nimble sentinel]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1922502524661323465/52A1AC8383E62216346ED81B168817C8E0ECB3B7/

[cosmic aurora]

No you get a bolter round to the head

[crude ermine]

I shan't unfortunately

[fresh mango]

https://tenor.com/view/wurrzag-wurzag-greenskins-orcs-orcs-dancing-gif-21431638

[crude ermine]

For i main the elf in vermintide

[unique orchid]

Sad!

[nimble sentinel]

same 😔

[spark helm]

I guess? I don't really fuck with One Piece much. And from what little reading I did, a lot more involved than just the blatant wild shit. Still wild though for scale with WH.

[serene sage]

How good is fantasy lore?

[unique orchid]

No

[swift ingot]

If you can butter toast with your ears you deserve death

[versed merlin]

ok

[nimble sentinel]

though now that they changed dwarf minigun...

[spark helm]

I guess depends on what you're looking for in fantasy for a grim dark setting.

[cosmic aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/deathmaster-snikch-total-war-warhammer-clan-eshin-warhammer-fantasy-skaven-gif-25028359

[spark helm]

I'm not deeply experienced enough with the genre. "essential reads" aren't in my history just yet.

[unique orchid]

The end times is the better half of fantasy lore

[serene sage]

Is mankind in fantasy any less racist than 40k?

[spark helm]

No.

[unique orchid]

But even then the end times proper is pretty not amazing at points

[cosmic aurora]

Replace all gutter runners with snikch when

[swift ingot]

Hard cap

[unique orchid]

You're funny

[copper pine]

Ehhhhh...sorta

[crude ermine]

Absolutely not

[spark helm]

Well, I guess maybe in the expression but the Empire does encourage fuckery.,

[cosmic aurora]

The Empire is slightly less racist, they’ll ally with dwarves and elves sometimes

[spark helm]

Magic being so rigidly surveilled and regulated especially through class is

[nimble sentinel]

I'm not getting into warhammer fantasy until I get a recap video like the one from Bricky

[versed merlin]

i pugged twins hardmode and we won. BUT i will say, i dont think i did much there even if i was focusing wiping elites, there was this ogryn cosplaying bardin outcast engineer melting everything, including the bosses

[serene sage]

Perfect

[spark helm]

It's not good. :U

[serene sage]

There's something funny about mankind caricature

[nimble sentinel]

https://youtu.be/zPB3Q59vjR8?si=5NAeC6oddIwlw0gt

[serene sage]

That tickles my brain

[unique orchid]

Explain why Age of Sigmar is better

[serene sage]

Bricky is cool, whoever the other dude on the podcast Bricky is on is annoying as hell

[cosmic aurora]

Sounds like you’d like karl franz

[swift ingot]

You got it that’s what matters, wish I could say the same

[nimble sentinel]

I fkn love the alpharius vid

[crude ermine]

It'd be boring if every fantasy race loved each other and no quarrels feuds came up

[cosmic aurora]

I don’t think they are saying aos is better, they probably mean everything before endtimes lol

[swift ingot]

Oh no I despise AoS, I love Fantasy but the End Times was very poorly executed imo

[versed merlin]

hey, if you need a washed vet to half wipe elites for you, im game. i loved that fight and i intend to keep pugging it. if you play on asia/australia, just hit me up anytime tomorrow

[unique orchid]

Oh i KNOW you are not ribbing on DK Diamantes my homie my slime

[dusty ferry]

Me when I finally learn using Catachan

[swift ingot]

Aight

Sent you a friend request

[spark helm]

I don't think people were aiming for that idea but utopian fantasy is interesting when it's sincerely explored in context.

[versed merlin]

ye accepted

[crude ermine]

It's a 50/50 chance it's boring or greatly executed

[unique orchid]

End times was a shitshow aye

[nimble sentinel]

I'm off work in 30 I'd love to get a hard mode completion if we're forming a squad

[spark helm]

I've only ran into it when it's like, just part of another story anyway before shit gets foul somehow. I wouldn't know which titles are um.

Just striaght up idyllic.

[versed merlin]

all vets squad?

[swift ingot]

Only good thing to come out of the end times was the Vermintide games

[unique orchid]

Also the total war games

[serene sage]

Dread it, run from it, the alliance between Elves, Humans, and Dwarfs comes all the same.

[nimble sentinel]

let's fucking goooooooooo to our graves

[spark helm]

To my awareness, you have utopian sci-fi

[unique orchid]

The ordertide

[spark helm]

Some good shit too. and utopian sci-fi isn't somehow void of conflict

[charred salmon]

how do i know what werapon is actually good? liek whats the difference between vraks III and vraks vii

[compact bear]

you know i really want to try get that insignia but i not even fighted the twins on normal mode yet XD

[unique orchid]

Half the time you just have to use the thing, but for the most part thankfully every weapon is decent if not just slightly different

[serene sage]

Vraks 3 is 3 round burst
Vraks 7 is semi automatic

They are both good weapons

[versed merlin]

it is a kind of a prog. the normal mode is fine once you get to know the pace of that fight. but for the hardmode you'll def want to min-max your loadout for that fight specifically

[unique orchid]

Really do wish the game would tell you these things though -_-

[charred salmon]

what about kantrel la vs iv?

[spark helm]

4 is faster rate of fire

[unique orchid]

I like the m1a or whatever it is personally

[charred salmon]

is that the only difference? and is it a significant difference?

[nimble sentinel]

same dps, your pick on which one works best for you

[spark helm]

slightly less dmg and stopping power on average compared to the la, middle ground of lasgun pool. 12 is the thumper: slower, on paper more dmg and stopping power.

[nimble sentinel]

I love the 4

[compact bear]

i mean my loadouts are mostly max everythign i got legendarys everywhere just not alot people like my KRIEG build lol

[charred salmon]

why cant they name the guns something recognizable lol

[nimble sentinel]

no stc

[unique orchid]

Krieg build? You throwing yourself at the enemy, shovel in hand?

[swift ingot]

I’ve spent a total of around 16 ish hours trying to beat the twins on hard, I’ve come very close numerous times. Today I think I’ll just do pugs and try my luck, haven’t had the best luck with lfgs as of late

[serene sage]

Unironically, FS hates optimizations, they said so themselves (not verbatim obviously).
But obscurity is part of the design.

[spark helm]

The real difference comes down to how your rate of fire with those weapons changes your target acquisition pretty much. You can pace yourself with all three but the the mk4 is significantly better in cases where you're dealing with dense crowds of trash hordes and for whatever reason need/want to shoot them.

[versed merlin]

oh sorry i meant you'd want to optimize an specific build for that fight, there are plenty of weapons that i like to play with but i sure as hell wouldn't bring them there as they would not prove very useful or effective as other options

[nimble sentinel]

which you DO want to because you have INFINITE AMMO

[charred salmon]

so the accatran mk 2, VId and VIIa are basically the same weapoin, just different fire rattes and stuff?

[serene sage]

Yep

[compact bear]

true but thing is how do i know its not effective if no one even try a HELBORE against them

[unique orchid]

I do wish they would at least tell us the trigger-action (semi, full auto, burst), the obfuscation is supposedly to counter meta-cucking

[spark helm]

I just prefer the la out of the three any day but the mk4 has never let me down.

[charred salmon]

but it doesnt tell me in gaem what those differences are?

[nimble sentinel]

my clicking finger has abs I love my 4

[serene sage]

You can test in the Meat Grinder

That's the most sure way

Sometimes descriptions are misleading

[odd sparrow]

Different fire rate, damage and ranges.

2 of them deal more to dmg to far away enemies
1 of them deals more to enemies close up

[swift ingot]

@versed merlin what was the Ogryn that you beat hard with using?

[unique orchid]

If you get in the nitty gritty and use the inspect feature on weapons, you can get a solid look usually at what it does, but also yeah meat grinder

[versed merlin]

whether you're losing or not, the most important thing is that you're making progress, like surviving for longer time during an stress moment. ofc team impact is a great thing, but getting the best out of you will also contribute a lot to your next run

[versed merlin]

you'll notice once you try your own loadout there. im not a helbore user myself, but i will say that standing still and aiming at a bunch of walking enemies in a circle room is def not ideal

[odd sparrow]

If you inspect a weapon it tells you. Along with other info if you hover your mouse over the stats

[terse idol]

Why would I try a helbore if a plasma gun can stagger them on a charged headshot

[versed merlin]

give me a min

[terse idol]

🥹

[swift ingot]

I know the strat I just need to be more patient and wait till we kill the elite swarms before I go all Hail Mary

[compact bear]

but i dont know i dont think i will ever do the twins really i just done seeing the kick screen or alot of hate in chats with the randoms

[compact bear]

actualy i dont stand still with helbore mine is pretty much moving and shooting

[serene sage]

not everything, not for special actions.
for example, it doesn't list the PS special damage despite that is what you would be using 90% of the times

[nimble sentinel]

do the twins

[swift ingot]

They’re a lot of fun

[versed merlin]

yeah do it on a lower difficulty, could help

[compact bear]

i dont like plasma gun i hate the 2 charge shots and already 100% over heating so i just love helbore for sure with baronet stabing

[serene sage]

it doesn't tell you that Boltgun M1 hold is automatic (with a min burst of 2), instead it calls it a 2 round burst weapon which is quite misleading

[unique orchid]

Twin fight on damnation sucks

[odd sparrow]

Are people seriously kicking eachother damn

[terse idol]

I just think at some point you don't need to know 99% of an obscure mechanic like spam an attack, in an ideal world yeah you'll do better but

It'll still work

[terse idol]

2 charge?

[charred salmon]

what is different between columnus and graia autogun?

[unique orchid]

Gamer just go find out

[terse idol]

If you have high thermal charge you can get 3

[odd sparrow]

Headshot/crit dmg and fire rate

[unique orchid]

We are not your manual of arms

[terse idol]

Thermal resistance

[serene sage]

again, jsut fire rate and damage
best way is to try them out fam

if you ask for each weapons we are here all day

[cosmic aurora]

@compact bear the bayonet stabbing is actually good now since you can demolish ragers with them

[charred salmon]

so usually if it has higher damage it has lower fire rate?

[nimble sentinel]

columbo go brrrrr, grail is more a laser

[hollow ibex]

one has less brrrrrrrrt than the other

[unique orchid]

Yeah

[cosmic aurora]

Helbore would be fine in twins fight if you are good at killing elites and gunners

[charred salmon]

is there like a spreadsheet comparing all the weapons?

[serene sage]

yes, though columnus is easier to build around due to better talent symergies

[compact bear]

ow i know i have shot and then stabed muties when they charge at me and they die with the stab lol i love the baronet of the MK1

[serene sage]

no spreadsheet, check pin, there is a primer

[swift ingot]

The setup I’ve been using for the twins is chastise, momentum zealot with the new chainaxe that has headtaker and thrust, able to deal ass loads of damage, I just need to not jump the gun and try to kill the gun guy when there are still elites alive

[unique orchid]

Im gonna cave your skull in, just go find a gun you like and use it

[compact bear]

full right klick shooting 1 full charge and thne seccond charge and its 100%

[versed merlin]

you shouldnt need to do that though

[odd sparrow]

With higher thermal resistance you can do more shots

[terse idol]

Yeah naw

You got bad thermal resistance

Post your Pgun

[versed merlin]

only if you want to one-tap crushers and even then, it should need only one charged and one non-charged

[compact bear]

yeah well i dont like shooting light shots against armor targets where it takes 5 shots or so to kill when full charge can mostly 1 shot them i dont know

i just stay with HELBORE plasma guns will never get in my inventory

[cosmic aurora]

To each their own, everyone got their own favorites

I like to blast crushers with the trusty revolver

[compact bear]

the only thing i wish is that i can put a bloody dame scope on my helbore lol

[unique orchid]

I would like the helbores if they werent click and hold to charge

[near sable]

evil veteran

[unique orchid]

Firing a helbore is personally the worst part of the helbore experience

[hollow ibex]

pulling one out is even worse imo

glacial

[trim breach]

is this one good for veteran?

[compact bear]

i dont know i love the hold klicking shooting part

[cosmic aurora]

The customization mod lets you put the lasgun sight on it

[serene sage]

nuh uh

pretty sure 13% toughness is minroll as well

[hollow ibex]

toughness curios max out at 17% toughness btw

[fresh mango]

16 is good enough if you can’t find 17

[versed merlin]

all max health curios and full right side branch

[trim breach]

I see

[fresh mango]

cause 17s are rare as hell

[hollow ibex]

yeah 16 is fine

[compact bear]

if i find a way to make my game not crash anymore maybe

[cosmic aurora]

The perks on that curio are also kinda Sadge but that’s just me

[fresh mango]

though i’m starting to believe 17s aren’t rare at all cause i’ve gotten so many

[trim breach]

wait

u can mod the game?

[crude ermine]

Yeah

[cosmic aurora]

I run ability cooldown, stamina and stamina regen

[terse idol]

That's fiine

[fresh mango]

it’s all client side

[trim breach]

:0

[terse idol]

I'm just saying you should give it a better shot with better stats

[fresh mango]

so anything you see/do, no one else can see

[terse idol]

Stats change a pgun in significant waaays

And the pgun has massive penetration

[cosmic aurora]

As long as you get clientside and non game changing mods (no cheating basically)

[fresh mango]

things like weapon customization, third person, healthbars, etc

[serene sage]

there are some really cheaty mods out there lmao

up to you to draw the line

[finite imp]

like what

[compact bear]

even for the record i try plasma gun 3 times when i whas leveling my vet long time ago so i dont even have that anymore lol

[trim breach]

is there a loadout mod?

[terse idol]

My friend did tell me about the mod to tell you which hack is the next one to fix

[fresh mango]

i think some mods are great QOL, like the timer that lets you see how long your exe stance is going for

[terse idol]

Yeah thats not a gooood sample

[versed merlin]

fucker just melted both bosses shields and landed that ultra nuke grenade explosion 2 or 3 times during that fight

[terse idol]

Low level guns just feel terrible

[serene sage]

show hidden pips for the hacking minigame

[fresh mango]

Loadout mod? wdym

[finite imp]

ah yeah i think ive seen that one

[fresh mango]

Like more loadouts?

[finite imp]

isnt loadouts in the base game

[cosmic aurora]

I just run scoreboard and FullAuto so I don’t get arthritis clicking some guns

[serene sage]

some are borderlines, I personally think HP bar mod could be a little too over the line but I won't die on this hill

[finite imp]

or am i crazy

[versed merlin]

honestly grenades helps so much in that fight it legit made me think about getting this node lmao

[serene sage]

special spawn annoucement is also kinda cheaty

[fresh mango]

loadouts are base game yeah, top right you can make extras

[swift ingot]

There are, but you’re limited to a max of 5

[finite imp]

gotchA

[fresh mango]

i LOVE the mod that lets you have more loadouts

[finite imp]

I only ever run like 3

[fresh mango]

Having 10 is incredible

I have too many builds

[versed merlin]

wait what mod is that

i need that

[serene sage]

idk how people play multiple guns, i just play one

[finite imp]

i have my knife revolver melee, a knife revolver ranged build, a dakka build I use with a pgun

[fresh mango]

Think it’s just called more loadouts

[finite imp]

whaqt gun

[fresh mango]

one sec

[serene sage]

Boltgun?

[terse idol]

I've been trying a feww

[finite imp]

WAS THAT FUCKING SARCASM

[serene sage]

I mean I've tried other stuff here and there

[terse idol]

Shotgun on weapon spec, revolver columnbus

[cosmic aurora]

Playing the MG Ia lasgun is basically just arthritis simulator if you don’t have the FullAuto mod

[versed merlin]

bro so many cool guns to try on vet bro

agri shotty bro

trust

[serene sage]

but 80%+ of the times I'm running the Boltgun

[fresh mango]

“More Characters and Loadouts”
@versed merlin

[versed merlin]

big rod gun

[terse idol]

Agri more like stinky

[tiny summit]

Dafuq

[terse idol]

[finite imp]

boltgun is good. I wish they had better base reload

[fresh mango]

You want a link to it?

[versed merlin]

nah its all g

[fresh mango]

I wish the boltgun had a bigger magazine size

[versed merlin]

ill find it on nexus

[serene sage]

I don't even run any reload talent on it

[swift ingot]

Laspistol only, take it or leave it

[fresh mango]

15 feels weird for me

[versed merlin]

ty

[finite imp]

rip dude. The boltgun and revolver are closely related in the gun kingdom

[tiny summit]

Helbore addiction atm for me.

[fresh mango]

[finite imp]

so we are kin

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-chris-evans-steve-rogers-old-man-gif-14744550

[versed merlin]

its great too

[finite imp]

can you just hold m1 for helbore now

[versed merlin]

specially on weapon spec

[serene sage]

just make good use of the 15 rounds you have

[terse idol]

With full auto mod

[cosmic aurora]

If you run weapon spec you don’t really need to reload bolter either

[terse idol]

Appearwntly

[serene sage]

that's 15 non-crushers dead elites if you play well

[terse idol]

That might make helbore playable for me

[finite imp]

does that make it charge or

[terse idol]

Cause holding left click and letting go sucks

Yeah it should

[finite imp]

huh

ill check it out

[tiny summit]

You can but the helbore charge can be held for longer than its max

[cosmic aurora]

You can set it so it does the charge shot I believe

[finite imp]

i might need to update my full auto mod

[serene sage]

yeah but by the time you are done switching the buff is gone

[finite imp]

i know i mean can i hold m1 to only do full charge shots

[fresh mango]

I think my issue with the boltgun is that comparing to other weapons in what it does (elite/boss killing) the plas gun and even helbore just have so much more capacity

[finite imp]

i need to hit psycharium

brgb

[fresh mango]

But that’s likely just plas gun being op

[versed merlin]

how can you guys type that word so easily and fast

[finite imp]

what word

[versed merlin]

psychiatrist

[finite imp]

psycholocomotor bb

[cosmic aurora]

Bolter was pretty good for killing gunners and shot gunners in twins hm

[serene sage]

it's a bit overshadowed, but that's bc plasma and rev are OP
that said, I want the Bolt buffed instead of the other two nerfed.

[versed merlin]

i need like use all my 5 brain cells to type that shit

its even worse to read

[fresh mango]

Absolutely

[finite imp]

my brain is ON and it bREATHES it has it's OWN LUNGS it HYPERVENTILATES

[nimble sentinel]

psykonomicon?

[fresh mango]

Give bolt 20 magazine

[tiny summit]

Just embrace the fg lingo and say lab

[fresh mango]

Damage is fantastic

[serene sage]

the psyckeirium

[obsidian umbra]

anyone here playing male loose cannon vet and sometimes hear the male cuthroat VA instead when you ping ammo?

[fresh mango]

i haven’t no

[swift ingot]

No

[serene sage]

the Psykhanium?

how do you actually spell it?

[versed merlin]

psychologist

idk

i call anything psycho

[cosmic aurora]

The cafeteria

[nimble sentinel]

psy gangam yum

[tiny summit]

Lab

[cosmic aurora]

It’s where you make corpse starch

[finite imp]

i hope they add maps with bigger scale. Imagine a map that's you and your team moving between trenches on krieg during all out war

[fresh mango]

psykhanium

that’s the correct spelling

[finite imp]

if you poke up out of a trench for too long you start getting shot

[serene sage]

wait I nailed it

damn

[nimble sentinel]

psycycle

[zinc hare]

mmkay, so i saw the stuff from an hour ago, gotta say its real nice that, as a queer fan and player you all have my back <3

[tiny summit]

They keep hinting at another hive city with the dialogue

[fresh mango]

way to go roughneck

[finite imp]

yeah but that sounds like more of the same gruff

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/psy-dance-horses-gangnam-style-music-gif-5419832

[finite imp]

i wanna put on a rebreather and go outside

[fresh mango]

Other hive city could have genestealers

[serene sage]

Spah Muhrin 2 coming September next year

I am big sad

they said it would be this winter 😔

[nimble sentinel]

they can take my levis off my cold dead hands

[finite imp]

thatll be a massive massive fucking update

[fresh mango]

Space Marine 2 with coop is gonna be the most fun i’ve ever had

[cosmic aurora]

Yeah but hopefully means even better game coming

[fresh mango]

I think i see two futures for darktide

[finite imp]

something like that would make the fucking news

[nimble sentinel]

I'm waiting patiently for helldivers 2

[cosmic aurora]

Delays make me sad but also happy that they get to spend more time on it

[finite imp]

that's some phantom liberty size shit

[nimble sentinel]

capes and mass murder in the name of DEMOCRACY

[fresh mango]

1. We go to the other hive city and it’s like chaos wastes with genestealers
2. We go on the surface and suddenly holy shit GREENSKINS??

(i am basing 2 on the fact i’ve heard one singular line reference greenskins recently)

[cosmic aurora]

Helldivers is basically just lighter hearted imperium of man

[versed merlin]

hopefully that means its not a trending incomplete release game that gets slowly finished by the devs with monthly patches

[finite imp]

okay year full auto mod works with helboresd

whats the meta for helbore

[serene sage]

is that the top down shooter?

[finite imp]

isometric

yes

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-liberated-tno-ofn-gif-23892894

[copper pine]

I want my nice cup of liber-tea

[cosmic aurora]

Yes the top down twin stick shooter is getting a third person sequel

[nimble sentinel]

sequel's gonna be a third person shooter

[finite imp]

the sequel is going to be 3rd

[finite imp]

beat me to it

[serene sage]

they went the Risk of Rain route eh

from 2D to 3D

[cosmic aurora]

Hell yeah they did and I’m excited

[strange crow]

Oh fun another krieg suicide shovel joke so funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[cosmic aurora]

It kept a lot of the funny shenanigans from the first

[fresh mango]

ah man ror2

heard it’s getting a dlc soon

[cosmic aurora]

It is

[cosmic aurora]

Last one Hopoo worked on I believe before it got bought?

[finite imp]

this seems decent

[serene sage]

i'll get it but it's not developed by Hopoo anymore

[serene sage]

i think the void dlc was done by hopoo still

this new one is completely off their hands

we will have to see if gearbox is competent

[cosmic aurora]

Oh right they made risk of rain return instead

Pretty good game also

[serene sage]

which somehow is not Steam Deck verified despite being top 20 played by hours

get on it Steam, jeez

[tall torrent]

Helbore 2 specifically wants unarmored + weakpoint

[cosmic aurora]

I don’t even know why, it’s already controller friendly as hell

[serene sage]

they forgor 💀

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/894054612787691530/1184568675555086336/caption.gif

[near sable]

he's amazing

look at it

[atomic zephyr]

failed an auric histg but idc cause i had fun
the emperor's way

[atomic zephyr]

finally went down because the barrier psyker finally ate shit (the realest one tbh) and the other psyker just wasnt good at the game

[near sable]

the other psyker didn't have 50% block cost reduction

[atomic zephyr]

i got hit by a sniper getting the second psyker and zealot got netted

[serene sage]

[atomic zephyr]

i knew it was gonna be a hell of a run when i noticed the non-shield psyker had four wounds in damnation

[near sable]

rending shockwave trauma psyker is huge on the twins

[serene sage]

A series of unfortunate events

[near sable]

bubble + ranged rending & stagger

[atomic zephyr]

on the bright side, agrippina braced autogun proved itself

barely ever let off the trigger, shredded damn near everything

[compact bear]

ok finaly got the mod to work lol but seems like every time i costomize a gun and then leave it it makes my game crash lol

[finite imp]

the lasgun headshot perk does that save ammo in the MAG or the pool?

[atomic zephyr]

sounds like a conflict?

[atomic zephyr]

in the mag, the shot doesnt drain ammo

wait

[finite imp]

TOO LATE

[atomic zephyr]

lasgun headshot? shock trooper?

i thought that was on crits

i considered telling the psyker that constantly ate shit to go back to normal damnation (in a polite tone) but i figured they didnt need the kick in the balls lmao

[finite imp]

shock trooper

[tall torrent]

Yea that’s crit no ammo consumption

[finite imp]

sick ok

[atomic zephyr]

mhm

[wanton dawn]

Smooth smooth public twin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzx05Clj1zk

[finite imp]

does trench fighter apply to the bayonet

[atomic zephyr]

does it need to? i havent tested it

[wanton dawn]

Ogryns are really strong for this mod

[finite imp]

im just curious

[wanton dawn]

Trench fighter is which one ?

[tiny summit]

Attack speed

[wanton dawn]

nah

Not noticiable at least

[finite imp]

kk

[tiny summit]

You will get serrated blade though for 1 dmg per tick lmao

[finite imp]

gonna give helbore a few whirlws

[tall torrent]

U don’t need trench fighter for bayonet

[finite imp]

with automod it's tolerable to use

[tall torrent]

Also if ur gonna run helbore exclusively for bayonet

[finite imp]

im not lol

[tiny summit]

I dunno. I really enjoy tap firing

[tall torrent]

The blessing combo is falter + no respite

Then bring a melee with brutal momentum

[finite imp]

nah i want that sweet sweet lad samage

las damage

[tiny summit]

Imagine pulling out your melee when you have a perfectly good bayonet

[serene sage]

Lasagna

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum applies to bayonet

[tiny summit]

Lately only reason I swap is to push the burster

[serene sage]

I love poking poxbusters to death with the stick 💙💀💙💀💙

[tiny summit]

It was 1 time ok

I was stab happy

And I didn't see it and was listening to a video so I didn't hear it

[compact bear]

i not sure since i dont have any other mods installed other then the Gun costomization mod

[unique orchid]

Your name is literally "Steel Legion" you were not the target of this funny haha, if i was targeting you i would say something about femboy tank top nuzzles you uwu gas masks

Cry about orks or something, tank boy

[slow spade]

Can't listen to my vtubers while carrying as Vet 😔

[strange crow]

Lol I don't feel personally attacked I just find the meme krieg = shovel and suicide meme overplayed at this point tbf

But yes tenk is life

[unique orchid]

I wasnt even memeing in this specific instance it was a genuine question as to how far the krieg build extended, those bastards love that crap

[strange crow]

Oh true haha my b I didn't know u were a chad who combats Krieg misinformation

[unique orchid]

My pfp is literally an imperial fist techmarine how much more of a chad could i be

[strange crow]

Wait thats facts

[unique orchid]

Still working on making a version of this one thats a dwarf ironbreaker, thats about as much chadmaxxing as i will pursue

[flat furnace]

uuuummmm guys I bought this at Melk's
opinions? I needed a good chaxe for the twins fight

[swift ingot]

Here’s hoping for Valhallan Ice Warriors gear (in 5 or so years)

[strange crow]

Lol I mean we had the little field cap if that counts

[unique orchid]

So true, favorite regiment 🙏

[strange crow]

I don't think it does haha

[swift ingot]

Same

[atomic zephyr]

lucifer blacks when

jk that'll never happen

[strange crow]

I think you guys can guess my fav regiment 💀

[atomic zephyr]

krieg?

[late hatch]

its pretty decent, but not the best stat spread

[atomic zephyr]

lol

[swift ingot]

Mordian Iron Guard?

[atomic zephyr]

im a steel legion appreciator

the mordians would be a cool addition

[slender turtle]

vtubers

[strange crow]

Mordians are my second fav so I'm not just a treadhead lol

[swift ingot]

Rip to the realest Commissar in the galaxy

[flat furnace]

I wonder if the bleed is really that useful

[swift ingot]

Miss you every day Seb

[flat furnace]

I'd change the perks

[late hatch]

bleed is awesome

[strange crow]

Kerschlact = best Imperial Guard colonel

[umbral scaffold]

holy shmoly

[flat furnace]

and Oh dear Emperor I love using the rev

[late hatch]

this is one of my c5's

[flat furnace]

I believe it is a strong upgrade from the power sword I had before

[finite imp]

my entire team jumped ship on me lmao

couldnt handle the gauntlet

[flat furnace]

it looks really good

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

me after using the helbore with automod

[late hatch]

it melts ragers and bosses

[flat furnace]

lmao I always use the helbore on my krieger marksman loadout

I love the cosplay

and the gameplat of course

[late hatch]

i avoid playing the HB too much bcoz the noise it makes

poink

poink

poink

drives me crazy

[flat furnace]

yknow what we need

a m1 garand sort of weapon

for that orgasmic reload sound

cling

[late hatch]

yeah a mod to replace HB sound with the classic m1 garand

[flat furnace]

cling

https://tenor.com/view/m1-garand-satisfying-gif-27340150

[late hatch]

that would be awsome

[flat furnace]

oh yes baby just like that

[swift ingot]

I need a mod that replaces VoC and The Ogryn’s taunt with the fart with reverb sound effect

[tacit jolt]

Wait are the twins just the cutthroat voiceactors

[unique orchid]

Whats the regiment that is obsessively neat and polished again? I am forgetting the name at this time

[flat furnace]

honestly I thought Rinda Karnak was Junker Queen's VA form Overwatch

[swift ingot]

Mordian Iron Guard?

[flat furnace]

but now that I hear "YOU WOULDN'T LAST A DAY ON THE 6TH!!!!!!" more often, I think she's not

[unique orchid]

I thought it was them but it didnt sound right

[south garnet]

any kind of firearm that spat out the clip once you emptied the internal mag would be wicked

[strange crow]

Pls Fatshark

New cosmetic

I beg of you

[spring cloud]

Get those bums out of here

[flat furnace]

twisted

[nimble sentinel]

I am on board

[pearl sapphire]

Space Garand

[spring cloud]

We need Chem Dogs and Jannisaries, not pretty soldiers.

[strange crow]

We have Chem dogs (even if they refuse to put them in the shop)

[strange crow]

pretty soldiers
Famous last words of the Chaos forces who invaded Mordian

[nimble sentinel]

hard disagree

[spring cloud]

All Mordians do is act superior and make well dressed corpses. At least the Volpone do it with style.

[strange crow]

The Volpone also have a segregated, classist society broski

[spring cloud]

Tell me more of your nuclear crocodile.

[flat furnace]

i dunno people I just think the cadians are neat

[strange crow]

Also funny u call Mordian's "pretty soldiers" but then advocate for Maccabians lol

[spring cloud]

They are terrifying, with the masks and the zealotry

Class act they are

[atomic zephyr]

didnt the mordians hold off a massive daemonic incursion for weeks longer than expected

[spring cloud]

Catachans beat theirs, didn't need an ironed uniform to do it either

[atomic zephyr]

allowing time for imperial psykers to break the ritual isolating the planet

the planet beat the daemons

[strange crow]

Yeah lol Mordians went crazy on defense

[nimble sentinel]

Live Cadian Reaction:

[flat furnace]

but you can't compare catachans with any other regiment
they are like , peak

[atomic zephyr]

im gonna give my respect to any regiment that can hold off daemons like that, no matter how prim and proper they look

[flat furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-of-cadia-cadia-battlefleet-gothic-gif-25242351

[strange crow]

Mordians are terrifying in their own right with their rigid discipline in the face of horrid opposition and overwhelming odds

[atomic zephyr]

skill issue

[spring cloud]

In their field, outside of it they're kind of meh.

How it is with every regiment really, I talk shit on Mordians but they hold a line better than most. It's all about specialty.

[flat furnace]

Cadia Stands brothers
everytime I remember Cadia or the book where it fell my heart starts pounding hard and fast

[strange crow]

Frfr, pretty much all of the major named regiments are equal in terms of ability with most just being better at others for specific roles

Despite what the Krieg fanboys may tell u

[terse idol]

Well that and the moebians are pure anti infantry evidentally to control a hive city

[flat furnace]

zis is a flemmenwerfer
it werfs flemmen

[atomic zephyr]

i reckon those scab bombers have some kraks in their belt somewhere

[flat furnace]

hey guys while we are at it; what's the difference between rendering and brittleness

[spring cloud]

Personally I want some Solar Auxilia or Lucifer Blacks in the store. Let's get real deep with it.

[strange crow]

Rending is speicifc to u, brittleness affects the whole team

[atomic zephyr]

rendering is the amount of...armor penetration? that you have, brittleness is applied to enemies and attacks on that enemy

[flat furnace]

oh surely, but they simply don't want to use them
it would make killing too simple

[flat furnace]

fuck then brittleness is peak

[atomic zephyr]

eh, rending is really good too

[crude sparrow]

does stopping power matter on the plasma gun?

[spring cloud]

Yes

[strange crow]

Usually you can get higher rending values though to balance it out, brittleness generally is of a lower percentage

[umbral granite]

What's a good perk setup for a mk4 chain-sword with the rev-it-up 4 and bloodletter 2 blessings?

[terse idol]

Proobably, but like do we even see damaged leman russ's on field?

Theyre just kinda sitting there

In good condition

[flat furnace]

agree

they're in perfect shape

[strange crow]

The 21st Moebian rly be tossing the game

[flat furnace]

then why not use them ?)

[strange crow]

Abandoning perfectly serviceable Leman Russ

[terse idol]

Probably because they don't have the resources to use em

No fuel no ammo

[strange crow]

Confusing then that Morrow still wants the factory to keep pumping them out for us to use

[tall torrent]

Not necessarily

Brittleness needs to be applied on the enemies on hit, and usually comes in low value but high stacks, so the initial hits won’t have as much effectiveness, but it’ll benefit your whole team

Rending is a buff to yourself and works all the time on any enemy you hit

[terse idol]

Probably why they were controlling the metal fab

[terse idol]

That's for atoma and the bigger fight

[obtuse raft]

It's pretty important, hit V to inspect your gun and mouse over the stat bar, it will tell you exactly what it does

[nimble sentinel]

you can fuel a leman russ with a ham and cheese sandwich tho

[terse idol]

Apparently the metal dab does supply alot of munitions for the rest of the system

[tall torrent]

If you’re using weapons that really care about breakpoints (1 shot kills, 2 shot kills, etc), brittleness effects will barely matter in achieving those breakpoints

[strange crow]

I mean in one of the missions Morrow talks about how they wouldn't be able to hold the positions they do without the Russes

[terse idol]

Yeah

So they need the metal fab to make more lemons for us

[atomic zephyr]

i mean, its possible that the tank crews just ditched and ran

[terse idol]

Yeah

[strange crow]

Yeah which implies that the 21st does have the resources to continue fielding the tanks

[tall torrent]

Smelter is one of the lowest framerate performance maps in my experience

[terse idol]

There is that comment of that lemon russ stuck in a wall and people be like "zamn they left a lemon here frfr"

[atomic zephyr]

well in that case it was abandoned cause it was stuck

which...makes sense.

better to save a crew than a tank that can be replaced in .005 seconds

which sounds oddly reasonable for 40k, actually

[nimble sentinel]

speaking of lemon rust

[atomic zephyr]

which means i must be wrong

[nimble sentinel]

Least to most fuckable primarchs, go

[flat furnace]

lemon

[atomic zephyr]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/706885284616470640/1145406210871406602/flayer.gif

[flat furnace]

most: fulgrim right?
least: perturabo¿

[spring cloud]

I'm just wondering why they're using demolisher variants in a hive fight. Punisher seems like a better choice.

[atomic zephyr]

probably just whatever they had on hand

the 21st was coming in to resupply and rearm no?

[nimble sentinel]

fair

[atomic zephyr]

maybe they were outfitted with demolishers for...whatever they were doing

[spring cloud]

Killing something that needs a lot of killing

[nimble sentinel]

Fulgrim's in it for his onlyfans tho, Roboogie's a man of the people

[strange crow]

Demolisher was designed to be used in urban environments, no?

[nimble sentinel]

and I'd rank Mortarion well below petulant manchild, at least with him it'll only last like 15 seconds

[spring cloud]

Used for hardpoints and breakthroughs. Still useable in a hive, but I'm not seeing a lot of fortresses.

Would prefer a big ol brrrrrrrrrrt tank.

[umbral scaffold]

Vulkan

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[nimble sentinel]

A tier for sure, S tier? There's a good debate

[spring cloud]

Vulkan is straight D tier

[nimble sentinel]

||he can D my tier||

[spring cloud]

"vUlKaN lIvEs" Well then where has his ass been? There's work to be done.

[limber egret]

HE rounds do work nicely at yeeting heretics

demo is a good choice really

[finite imp]

bro

[unique orchid]

Least fuckable is angron

[finite imp]

the best melee weapon in the vet's arsenal is the fucking bayonet

wtf

[spring cloud]

You can pull the nail dreds

[unique orchid]

Angron will just rip you in half on sight, with his HANDS you degenerates

[finite imp]

it's attack is just RAPID STAB fast than the knife, it STUNS ragers

are you fr

completely silly

[limber egret]

also thoughts on this bolter?

[nimble sentinel]

the hate sex must be legendary tho I wouldn't rank him so low

[spring cloud]

Lore on bayonettes is stronger than lore on plasma

[umbral scaffold]

I think it's based lol

[nimble sentinel]

death by the ultimate of snoo snoo

[finite imp]

its an amazing weapon lol

[umbral scaffold]

Guys guys yall forgetting

The sisters of battle

[nimble sentinel]

this is primarchs only

[unique orchid]

What? No angron would turn you into a puddle of gore the second you get into chainaxe range

[nimble sentinel]

would, but wrong category

[umbral scaffold]

So is the Rambo gun (braced autogun)

[unique orchid]

Would you guys do a sororita or a repentia

Important question

[finite imp]

Would be cool if they made a mission for what space marine 2 comes out

When

[atomic zephyr]

no they'd probably shank me

actually

wait yes nvm

[nimble sentinel]

depends if the repentia has a spare uniform to share and a very liberal definition on purifying pain

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/похороны-the-funeral-dancing-dance-happy-gif-16750299

[unique orchid]

She has the tattered rags and purity seals she is wearing and the eviscerator on her back, the pain part depends on the order

[umbral scaffold]

Bruh this is such a canon IG vet convo lol

[unique orchid]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

Just a couple of vets on their off time discussing tier lists lmao

[spring cloud]

Sister of Silence would just be a Sister. Iykwim.

[unique orchid]

A sister of silence would give you a migraine

[spring cloud]

Worth.

[unique orchid]

Because theyre strong blanks

[spring cloud]

Nothing is stronger than love

[unique orchid]

Do you guys think a repentia would be harder to seduce than a regular SoB or no?

[charred salmon]

what is the difference between the two power swords

[unique orchid]

Attack pattern

[charred salmon]

which one is better?

[unique orchid]

You make me sad

Genuinely

Either one with the power cycler blessing will do you fine just use your special and then cleave hordes

[atomic zephyr]

there is no objectively better power sword

try both out

[violet roost]

suggestions on perks/blessings on this for a vet?

[hard cave]

skitari Fandom is based

[cloud leaf]

6 is objectively better

how am i so good at vet?

[proven cargo]

Get back on to ogryn

You have teams to carry

[cloud leaf]

Can carry harder on vet with shout at this point

[orchid musk]

I mean, it’s pretty good. Could upgrade blessing of choice and I prefer carapace damage, since that’s usually who I’m mag-dumping with a boltor.

But I don’t like boltor on vet. Usually what I carry on zealot.

[finite imp]

Post love build

[low oar]

Could try touching grass more often if that's an issue

[south spindle]

Change cavalcade to Surgical

[cloud leaf]

Yeah you're right, I'm way too good at this game I basically beat it already

[sage cedar]

Got dat filthy good RNG for once

[celest vine]

Did bro get instabanned?

💀

[tall torrent]

Great roll on blessings & perks

But that 64% stopping power is uhhh

[umbral granite]

Got this as a mission reward. Not sure if the stats are good (i am a bit of a newbie with vet) but the blessing seems good.

[midnight mortar]

It's dead due to 48% stopping power in my opinion. An intermediate weapon.

[umbral granite]

so, just earn the blessing off it then?

[midnight mortar]

Helbores want surgical and onslaught. You could earn it if you want but at tier 2 it's not going to see use.

[flat furnace]

i dun't even know what stopping power means
what does it affect?

[midnight mortar]

You can inspect weapon stat bars in your inventory by inspecting the weapon and hovering over the bar.

[umbral granite]

Considering that i dont have any blessings for helbore whatsoever, i'll take it.

[midnight mortar]

Tier 3 blessings aren't hard to come by is all. You'll find a tier 3 surgical and onslaught soon enough if you actively farm helbores.

[flat furnace]

oh that's neat
didn't know that, thanks

[bitter veldt]

Hello everyone, what would you change on this?

[serene bough]

Hammerblow and crit chance

[flat furnace]

I'd change the perks
The first for 25% flak enemies
and the second 25% maniacs

[serene bough]

Replace those with uncanny strikes then flak/maniac

[flat furnace]

hammerblow could be useful for dealing with hordes, spam heavy attacks and watch every poxwalker fly away
although I'd suggest another blessing cuz' there are betters

[serene bough]

Its okay but uncanny strikes is too good to pass on

Decimator is mid but uncanny is top tier

[tall torrent]

Damage to armored targets (flak, maniac, carapace, unyielding), as well as stagger amount

[merry oak]

depends one is on a guilt trip and another is on a life long spritual crusade.

[rain steppe]

What kind of talents are you guys running for the twins? This is what I threw in together but not sure if I should aim for a keystone

[eternal sable]

if you have a zealot just play that for hard mode