The scanning portion is so wide open and large though, the BoN is a non-threat there.
#veteran-class
midnight mortar
atomic zephyr
ive never seen a monstrosity spawn there, wild shit
yeah it was more of a threat considering i was the only one shooting the damn thing
oh well
quick moth
With a floppy pom pom top
Rotting Nurgle nutsack
finite imp
Rotting Nurgle nutsack
I can't take you anywhere
This is why Dad got so drunk on Thanksgiving
dark rampart
im a dumbass plus im not sober when i play this game
finite imp
im a dumbass plus im not sober when i play this game
Based
dark rampart
this stupid gun any good
just bought it and changed a lil was wondering if its worth keepin
finite imp
this stupid gun any good
Meh it's alright
vernal harbor
does it shoot
dark rampart
ion think i can cuz i changed two items already
finite imp
ion think i can cuz i changed two items already
Brother you can
I know what I'm talking about
dark rampart
Brother you can
midnight mortar
ion think i can cuz i changed two items already
The slots you modify can be modified an infinite number of times.
dark rampart
The slots you modify can be modified an infinite number of times.
no u cant
u can only mod it if i say so
and i say u cant
so
vernal harbor
im gonna have all gunner resistances and all gunner damage buffs with focus so i can hear someone say “if you wanted to get better results you could swap-“
dark rampart
changed it
dark rampart
could somone donate me 4 million gold shits?
finite imp
I can't shit gold
dark rampart
:\
astral blade
ugh man people are defs dogshit during this special mission
finite imp
I have IBS so it's like nurgles curse
finite imp
ugh man people are defs dogshit during this special mission
I beat the normal mode first try
Maybe I got lucky with lubs
Pubs
astral blade
I beat the normal mode first try
yeah try playing on oceana servers damnation karnak twins
midnight mortar
Oceana
My condolences.
finite imp
yeah try playing on oceana servers damnation karnak twins
Ouch
astral blade
most oceana idiots cant even hold their own
dark rampart
this drippy or nah
finite imp
You need depraved sociopathic Americans who fantasize about home invaders on your team
finite imp
this drippy or nah
Looks sick
astral blade
You need depraved sociopathic Americans who fantasize about home invaders on you...
or just competent teammates
finite imp
or just competent teammates
Same diff
dark rampart
Looks sick
thx gamer
astral blade
by the by in terms of my infiltrate build this is what i use
finite imp
by the by in terms of my infiltrate build this is what i use
Unhinged
flint lake
by the by in terms of my infiltrate build this is what i use
Going for the left tree at the end is a waste. Should just grab the Focus Fire Keystones.
flint lake
The keystones are all fantastic.
astral blade
The keystones are all fantastic.
finite imp
The keystones are all fantastic.
flint lake
Ya’ll be lost.
finite imp
I like the keystone and even I disagree
astral blade
The keystones are all fantastic.
sah sah are you even a veteran main sah
dark rampart
huhh?? i love the keystones tho
they are so good
or im bad idk
whats so bad about them?
flint lake
Rip
dark rampart
this thang any good just bought it and changed some items was it worth
frank ether
whats so bad about them?
they're ok
marksman kinda doodoo
the thing is
you can have a no keystone build a lot of the times
dark rampart
i like it on braced auto
frank ether
which may outperform the keystone
flint lake
this thang any good just bought it and changed some items was it worth
Weak spot damage is trash, switch for flak.
quick moth
Going for the left tree at the end is a waste. Should just grab the Focus Fire K...
Focus fire keystones are literally free damage and toughness. Like why pass them up?
I do think the vet keystones are kinda whatev, but focus fire is all that shit for just tagging something you're gonna kill anyway and the damn outline already helps with headshots.
atomic zephyr
get revived
hit by mutie
two poxbursters spawn and instantly full kill me while mutie holds me
astral blade
listen up the 3 keystones have 3 flaws to them 1 markmen's focus requires you to stand still in order for it to function properly 2 focused fire is tied to the pinging system there for making it both good and bad because 1 yes you can burn down a high priority target down fast down side is if there no high priority target around ya pretty much just got a waste of stack of 5 or 8 stacks of focus fire literally sitting there waiting to be used and 3 weapon specialist the constant swapping of weapons which means going through an animation which can waste precious time which you can be doing DAMAGE instead
finite imp
I wish they'd make a level where you're running between trenched in a no mans land ground war
flint lake
If you can score consistent headshots, M’sF turns vet into a god.
frank ether
yeah because this is a rail shooter
flint lake
The las recon, Colum IAG, and revolver are just broke as fuck with the finesse bonuses from M’sF.
dark rampart
i like weapon specialist keystone tbh only one i've used
finite imp
this is what we're working with
Bes of da bes
frank ether
bruh there is a boss one clip build for agri revolver
and it doesnt even involve marksman focus
because marksman focus sucks
astral blade
and i've made my point because allot of y'all seem to think that the keystones are good yes given to a certain degree i'll agree with you guys but this the but those the other classes have some keystone that is tied to there ability
frank ether
it doesn't give more damage than focus mark does
flint lake
''recon las is broke''
Use a las recon with 10 stacks (3 headshots) of M’sF in the meatgrinder and you’ll see what I mean.
frank ether
wow it sucks like %10 less
good job
still killing muties 4x slower than my iag
which is on a melee build
I dont even sacrifice shit for dps
astral blade
we vets don't have that so just use ya brain for a minute and think before coming up with some stupid reason
quick moth
Yeah focus mark is also buffed by voice and for the emperor (extra 10% damage). Weapon specialist will get you the most hypothetical damage, but focus is the most consistent.
dark rampart
wtf are unyeilding enemies
flint lake
There are better options but I’m talking about M’sF’s effect on ranged finesse weapons. Not the quality of the weapons themselves.
dark rampart
wtf are unyeilding enemies
mf has 300 hours and doesnt know what that means
frank ether
Its literally worse than the mark keystone
what was the total damage you got out of focus mark? like %30+ something on your marked target?
quick moth
what was the total damage you got out of focus mark? like %30+ something on your...
Plus the +10% of for the emperor yeah
frank ether
MF is not competing with that
focus mark doesnt need you to play mental gymnastics
and it works with ANYTHING
melee
quick moth
Weapon specialist CAN beat it, but again that's bugged so I expect this to change.
astral blade
so dandy if you think i dont know what the actual fuck i'm talking about than mate all i gotta say is you are a fucking idiot
frank ether
for your entire fucking team
all you have to do is ping the mf you want dead
its great
you even get stamina and toughness for your entire team for killing it
flint lake
You’re assigned a lot of opinions to me I feel.
finite imp
so dandy if you think i dont know what the actual fuck i'm talking about than ma...
Hey settle down. Let's reflect.
astral blade
its pure damage
i will admit focus fire is the best out of all the 3 keystones
frank ether
what does marksman focus get? Oh yeah %10 rending if you have 10 stacks. Guess which keystone has a flat %10 AT ALL TIMES for BOTH WEAPONS
frank ether
there are like, two weapons where I use mf
dark rampart
the twins damnation hard?
frank ether
but I do some to goof around
dark rampart
why only 19k gold shits :\\\\\\\\\
flint lake
the twins damnation hard?
Easy with a well equipped group. Build for fighting a captain and ragers squads and you’ll be fine.
astral blade
the twins damnation hard?
yes if you dont have a good build or if ya team is complete horse shit
queen fox
which laspistol is better
frank ether
the twins damnation hard?
easy if you're not doing hardmode
you just need a decent group
dark rampart
i hate my self and love pain so im going to do it with randoms and see what happens
queen fox
everytime i join a lobby with randos they all want to do hard mode
dark rampart
cuz hard mode is good mode
flint lake
Bring chain weapons and a plasma and voice of command and field improvisation if you got a point you can spare.
The free nades and corruption clear are good for the fight
dark rampart
ugh i hate plasma gun so much tbh
flint lake
Bolter works to. Just anything to deal quickly with ragers and mauler packs.
quick moth
ugh i hate plasma gun so much tbh
It's also bugged and doesn't display a shot sometimes which fucks you up
astral blade
just saying i also made the flaws in the keystones pretty clear
flint lake
Focus Fire is a must on the Karnak fight
dark rampart
eh imm try out stealth build first
flint lake
+32% damage the whole fight is massive
dark rampart
plus im good at the game anyway
unkempt hedge
Hey y'all which blessing would you swap for Bloodletter?
dark rampart
windows key shift and s let you screen snip stuff btw
dark rampart
Not on my PC atm
flint lake
Hey y'all which blessing would you swap for Bloodletter?
Probably rampage.
quick moth
He on his PC, but he ain't using Discord on his PC is what he means lol
Which tbh I don't blame anyone
astral blade
Hey y'all which blessing would you swap for Bloodletter?
keep rampage switch out wrath
flint lake
Hey y'all which blessing would you swap for Bloodletter?
You’ll have an easier time using Wrath Effectively without rampage than you will vice versa.
unkempt hedge
He on his PC, but he ain't using Discord on his PC is what he means lol
Rampage description is bugged no and is actually 32% power? Doesn't make up for some of the cleave that wrath provides?
flint lake
I’ve not heard of this bug.
astral blade
You’ll have an easier time using Wrath Effectively without rampage than you will...
wrath is good for single target dps while ramage is good for hordes
azure marsh
I finally beat the twins! After three tries! LOL
unkempt hedge
I’ve not heard of this bug.
I've heard it from multiple sources but have not confirmed it in notes yet
flint lake
Then I’d say swap Wrath if true.
unkempt hedge
wrath is good for single target dps while ramage is good for hordes
I am using blood letter for single target so I want the other blessing to help with hordes
astral blade
I am using blood letter for single target so I want the other blessing to help w...
than rampage is ya best bet
frank ether
+32% damage the whole fight is massive
only if your vet is smart enough to mark the correct one lol
unkempt hedge
wrath is good for single target dps while ramage is good for hordes
I'm curious how does more cleave help with single target damage
astral blade
I've heard it from multiple sources but have not confirmed it in notes yet
also if it was from a source that was from outside this discord take it with a grain of salt
unkempt hedge
also if it was from a source that was from outside this discord take it with a g...
True I am trying to find the note where it was stated
atomic zephyr
honestly, the agrippina braced autogun is probably better with shout but there’s nothing quite like pressing f, seeing the screen light up orange and then holding left click and watching the orange fade away
unkempt hedge
also if it was from a source that was from outside this discord take it with a g...
I found it lol
@flint lake
It was stated in Patch 13
Power instead of regular damage. So the description is wrong in game
flint lake
Damn then yeah fuck wrath
warm bear
Okay so I wasted a talent slot then
astral blade
just bear that in mind before listening to the fool aka dandy
flint lake
Lol
finite imp
just bear that in mind before listening to the fool aka dandy
Settle down
unkempt hedge
Blud was just trying to help blud
flint lake
Bro just salty he can’t get headshots
terse idol
It'd a valid question 🥹
astral blade
Bro just salty he can’t get headshots
try using a controller on pc with a weapon that has a high RoF than try saying that again
flint lake
try using a controller on pc with a weapon that has a high RoF than try saying t...
Lol nah I’ll stick to the mouse. No wonder you can’t hit shit.
flint lake
Limb splitter is okay, and so is Decimator.
marsh condor
I'll be keeping this for the time being
astral blade
Lol nah I’ll stick to the mouse. No wonder you can’t hit shit.
you haven't seen what i'm able to do with a controller so you may wanna retrack that statement
flint lake
you haven't seen what i'm able to do with a controller so you may wanna retrack ...
I know you can’t hit headshots cause you’re complaining about M’sF
placid portal
astral blade
just gonna drop this here
gusty bison
Whoa whoa hold up. Did I just see someone say weapon spec sucks?
placid portal
kinda dependant on weapon setup ye?
gusty bison
kinda dependant on weapon setup ye?
Fair but like. Thata true of many talents
astral blade
Whoa whoa hold up. Did I just see someone say weapon spec sucks?
yes i did and grawr i stand by my statement only reason why i said that those is for 1 reason the constant switching of weapons
gusty bison
yes i did and grawr i stand by my statement only reason why i said that those is...
You dont lose any damage on insta swap weps thou
placid portal
Fair but like. Thata true of many talents
focus target is just simply super versatile, but I guess that's the exception to such ruling 
gusty bison
In fact u gain damage cos of Agile Engagement
astral blade
You dont lose any damage on insta swap weps thou
true but what about weapons that aint insta swap
gusty bison
true but what about weapons that aint insta swap
U dont use them with weapon spec?
placid portal
Simple as
gusty bison
Thats like saying u dont use shocktrooper with non lasguns
Doesnt mean shocktrooper is bad
Or u dont use plasma with deadshot. Etc.
mystic belfry
I’m built different, going to run weapon swap with bolt gun
placid portal
If only weapon specialist also buffs swap speed too
or heck agile engagement also triggers fast swap
zealous wyvern
is there a way to get weapon specialist and executioner stance?
placid portal
you could
zealous wyvern
drawing the bolter is instant
placid portal
but you'd be on very heavy taxing
zealous wyvern
weapon spec bolter time
zealous wyvern
oh no
indigo canyon
I found the one 🥰
placid portal
yeehaw cannon do be fun
placid portal
I found *the one* 🥰
Aw kark this Melk set the damn power output to stun
mystic belfry
Great for non lethal takedowns
placid portal
well
mystic belfry
Which means bin it right now
zealous wyvern
phaser time
mystic belfry
Degloving rifle
placid portal
not limb exploding from sudden vaporizing
astral blade
Aw kark this Melk set the damn power output to stun
anyways i've lost enough brain cells arguing with idiots who dont know what they are talking about imma go do some coding for some mods y'all have a good one
zealous wyvern
nooo you cant just kill the alien species. picard said so
placid portal
gotta love how iirc lasguns can blow off a limb
zealous wyvern
you would dare obstruct the Emperors will?
placid portal
who is picard again
mystic belfry
So can my air compressor
zealous wyvern
star trek is opposite of 40k
tall torrent
gotta love how iirc lasguns can blow off a limb
And they don’t have dismemberment in this game
zealous wyvern
humans are super super good guy peaceful
flint lake
Wolf was saying some dumb shit about how the keystones are awful before self reporting that he can’t get headshot kills cause he uses a controller.
placid portal
And they don’t have dismemberment in this game
yea just deep burning holes
mystic belfry
Star Trek and 40k are basically the same universe
tall torrent
The best u can get is a hot red hole in someone’s face
placid portal
no explosions
flint lake
Absolute dumpster
placid portal
As the CEO of TORGUE company once said
zealous wyvern
Star Trek and 40k are basically the same universe
golden age maybe
zealous wyvern
indigo canyon
is the helbore series worth using, say over the regular lasguns?
zealous wyvern
ca
azure marsh
I'm getting better at Malice difficulty and Veteran, I'm going to go for level four difficulty now
mystic belfry
Cooked like my vets hands when spamming a plasma
placid portal
is the helbore series worth using, say over the regular lasguns?
Just gotta learn when to pull out your gun
serene sage
I'm getting better at Malice difficulty and Veteran, I'm going to go for level f...
dont be a pussy, do damnation
zealous wyvern
I'm getting better at Malice difficulty and Veteran, I'm going to go for level f...
die well
indigo canyon
that animation really sucks 😅
mystic belfry
Just gotta learn when to pull out your gun
The answer is never
leaden canopy
is the helbore series worth using, say over the regular lasguns?
from what i can if you like sniping
azure marsh
Damnation is too much
zealous wyvern
you should never pull out your rifle because you should be holding it already
indigo canyon
I'll stick with my 1a for now, I guess lol
placid portal
or use Exe stance for quick swap
zealous wyvern
its good
tall torrent
I'm getting better at Malice difficulty and Veteran, I'm going to go for level f...
Practice melee, you’ll get better very soon
leaden canopy
a proper guardsmen should always have his rifle by his side
placid portal
I only use exe stance to draw into Lucius, only reason I run exe lucius
mystic belfry
Just never use ranged weapons
serene sage
a proper guardsmen should always have his rifle by his side
this is my rifle, there are many ones like it
placid portal
Pick up a Real knife
serene sage
but this one is mine
tall torrent
is the helbore series worth using, say over the regular lasguns?
If u like killing armor with lasguns, yes
placid portal
A real knife
Lucius MK3 can 2 tap crushers
I think you could push it to 1 shot but forgor how
tall torrent
Helbore’s biggest advantage over infantry lasguns imo is their versatility
U can actually take a helbore to mostly any fight and be prepared
indigo canyon
of the 3, which is the preferred variant?
placid portal
I thought it was the fact it is super stable
Mk3 is my cake, but mk1 and 2 is more easy to use when shooting
Helbore has really stable aim
even under suppression
alpine pebble
MAN abter beating those clones noe even auric feels easy
tall torrent
of the 3, which is the preferred variant?
Mk1 is the balanced option
Mk2 has lower dmg (worse breakpoints) but shoots faster and uses less ammo per shot
Mk3 does big damage but has very slow charge speed (firerate) and drains ammo very quickly, it also has a horrible bayonet moveset which is basically unusable
zealous wyvern
mk1 mk2 have VERY GOOD MELEE
zealous wyvern
mk3 is a delete button sniper if built right
placid portal
If you really hate maulers and crushers MK3 is the weapon
zealous wyvern
or an almost delete button if you do not
tall torrent
Mk3 is like the big damage upgrade to infantry lasguns in terms of application
leaden canopy
i guess it depends on what you want it to do
tall torrent
Because the melee is unusable
paper brook
How do you activate hard mode for the special assignment mission?
placid portal
I think MK3 is probs the one lasgun you can hit headshots and do more damage than bodyshot
tall torrent
Unlike mk1 and mk2 where it’s basically a gun on a spear
leaden canopy
ah the olde russian and japanese war tactic
zealous wyvern
mk12 bayonets stagger ragers, maulers and others with one thrust
placid portal
How do you activate hard mode for the special assignment mission?
find bell, hit it in specific amount, find more bells with specific ring count
leaden canopy
we need a long rifle so when you add the bayonet it becomes a spear
indigo canyon
its just that I can't see myself charging that thing in damnation+ constantly 😅
placid portal
Lucius Mk3 is probs the longest gun in the game for human characters
leaden canopy
yeah makes sense considering that its based on a ww1 rifle
azure marsh
I need to block better
placid portal
So more stamina management
leaden canopy
dont run too much man
placid portal
or slap 3x +3 stamina curios
leaden canopy
keep enough stamina to do a push block
leaden canopy
yeah
placid portal
dont run too much man
As a normal player who binded w to sprint I find this aggregious
placid portal
Oh yea blocking attacks you don't see uses more stamina
leaden canopy
well i played tide games when they didnt have a spirnt so i got used to making do without
leaden canopy
i do miss a lot of features that darktide has that vermintide doesnt have
like sprinting
serene sage
after playing dank tide I cannot go back to GTFO
so, i guess, you gtfoed 😎
placid portal
😎
terse idol
umbral scaffold
Canon professional vet
flat furnace
he successfully lived
umbral scaffold
Don't mess with the guard
placid portal
impossible
More surprising that as billions don't make it past 10 years, trillions do because they don't live in an active hellscape
leaden canopy
impossible you mean if that if we dont treat our subjects like shit then they would do better? Heresy
neat sluice
Is the old chainsword better than the new one for ad clear
exotic sandal
Thank god, the twins grind is over for me
neat sluice
Thank god, the twins grind is over for me
Same lmfao
exotic sandal
Same lmfao
The group I was with tonight we managed to clear in just 3 tries, dumb luck I guess
placid portal
it's like 2 missions ye?
slender turtle
ah cadian could
Then why didnt cadia make it another 10 years?
vernal harbor
*Then why didnt cadia make it another 10 years?*
neat sluice
Is the MKIV or the new chainsword better for ad clear?
lost lake
Wonder how life is like on a agri world or feudal world. Like it's so out of the way of enemies but potentially not so industrialized that your gonna die in a factory accident or somthing. Other than tithes your probably living the good life
placid portal
*Then why didnt cadia make it another 10 years?*
Sad but abbadon flipped the gaming table after losing his daemon prince from 50 conscripts passing 50 6s
neat sluice
I'm not sure what the differences between the two are
placid portal
Wonder how life is like on a agri world or feudal world. Like it's so out of the...
if you're in a feudal world you'd be a peon
placid portal
I'm not sure what the differences between the two are
Agri world is Food production dedicated, Feudal world is what it means a feudal system ruling, basically not current time tech
austere mica
Feudal worlds is normal imperium without the tech
lost lake
Agri world is Food production dedicated, Feudal world is what it means a feudal ...
I think he meant his chainsword question there
placid portal
ah
austere mica
Agri worlds are worlds so industrialized towards farming the atmosphere hurts and you still get worked to death
placid portal
I think new chainsword has 2 Strikedown and 1 Relentless
while old one has 2 relentless loop
vernal harbor
So my knife bleeds from talent, 3 from non weak point and then from crit
Now I’m practice I can’t tell
tall torrent
Ngl the new rogue trader set + Krieg helm is prob the closest thing u can get to a Krieg grenadier looking set on veteran rn
vernal harbor
So is bleed even worth
placid portal
depends
vernal harbor
I do use tending
placid portal
but on armored? nah
vernal harbor
Rending
placid portal
Just rending backstab em to death
vernal harbor
Nah just unarmored and mob
lost lake
Ngl the new rogue trader set + Krieg helm is prob the closest thing u can get to...
You got them paired? Lemme see
vernal harbor
Like are they dying from the swing or the bleed idk
tall torrent
You got them paired? Lemme see
placid portal
prefer having backstab
vernal harbor
Yeah I do to it’s just a mad scientist thing
I can apply 16 stacks in two seconds more or less
But the damage seems whatever compared to my usual power sword
tall torrent
I can apply 16 stacks in two seconds more or less
U mean onslaught stacks from bleed ticks?
They patched that, no longer applies
vernal harbor
Seems to do the same damage
placid portal
Bleed ticks meh unless unyielding or boss imo
tall torrent
DoT ticks no longer apply onslaught’s brittleness effects
lost lake
I can kinda see it. But just one glance at the frills ruin it for me
placid portal
heck backstabbing the karnak twins do so much damage
placid portal
tall torrent
I can kinda see it. But just one glance at the frills ruin it for me
Still looks good imo
placid portal
Wasn't intended anyways
tall torrent
But yea the frills take it away
placid portal
Still looks good imo
ye autoguns eat'n good today
tall torrent
Onslaught is just exclusively meant for braced/infantry autoguns rn
tall torrent
Or recon lasguns if you’re gonna hog ammo
leaden canopy
didnt the Recon Lasgun get the Onslaught talent
I am an ammo hog i do like my recon lasgun
vernal harbor
About to beat the fuck out my head with a hammer and play ogryn
tall torrent
At least the pathing before onslaught is actually good
5% melee dmg + duck & dive + 0.25s stamina regen delay reduction
vernal harbor
Shut my brain off
leaden canopy
nah mate
make it easier on yourself just drink some methanol
i promise it wont kill you
leaden canopy
not sure if i am running my build in the most optimal way but i do enjoy playing with the subobtimal builds
exotic sandal
I fell through the map LMAO
leaden canopy
you snuck around so hard that the chaos gods took you
placid portal
Some Tzeench Fuckery
frank ledge
I fell through the map LMAO
lofty lintel
how important is stability on the mk12
flint lake
how important is stability on the mk12
Not at all
vernal harbor
👆😯 what they said
dusty hawk
What melee weapons are good with melee vet now?
sharp ember
What melee weapons are good with melee vet now?
been having a lot of success with new and old chainaxe
can competently work through hordes, and also chainsaw armored elites
the ability to dodge out of sawing has helped these weapons immensely
lofty lintel
What melee weapons are good with melee vet now?
rrrrrashaddddd
sharp ember
or yeah, the BM 1 shot bruiser rashad 
lofty lintel
so fun
dusty hawk
For hordeclear on chainaxe do you need to heavy?
How does the old Antax 5 compare with the Rashad now for horde clear?
sharp ember
For hordeclear on chainaxe do you need to heavy?
for old chainaxe, for new chainaxe its the other way around
pretty nice in a scrap where you just wanna spam attacks
wanton dawn
I got a pub twin hm win with a fixed scoreboard to get boss damage ! Visibly am better at mob handling than boss damage
sharp ember
How does the old Antax 5 compare with the Rashad now for horde clear?
slightly inferior but still good, because it lacks the finesse stat to increase swing speed and weakpoint damage
dusty hawk
I see thanks! Any advice on blessings for these?
sharp ember
Brutal Momentum + Headtaker/Decimator
headtaker is easier to use because deci drops if you miss an attack
analog blaze
What's the better chain axe variant?
sharp ember
i found them very well balanced
just depends if you want horde clear lights or heavies
analog blaze
Any particular blessing? Seems like Slaughter would be good?
Or is the one that's per hit counting each proc?
sharp ember
Slaughterer + Headtaker is a very good generalist blessing pair
unkempt hedge
of the 3, which is the preferred variant?
I have always preferred the MK 2. Shoots the fastest and still has good damage. Is also the most ammo efficient.
unkempt hedge
Oh yeah I got my hand over this sweetie
How long did you suck off Melkers for this
dusty hawk
slightly inferior but still good, because it lacks the finesse stat to increase ...
What are the attack patterns for the rashad mk2 combat axe?
dusty hawk
I have always preferred the MK 2. Shoots the fastest and still has good damage. ...
I personally like the M3 just so I can 1 shot reapers. It always feels amazing. And also its ammo positive with Survivalist and Shock Trooper
steep monolith
was the dodge distance nerf for the shovel ever explained? i recall them reducing the dodge count but the dodge distance reduction seems to have been a silent nerf
lofty lintel
is this salvageable if i replace both blessings for headhunter and deadly accurate
m1a inf lasgun
jade notch
Could be better, but it's workable.
I certainly would rather not grind for 6 hours just for a God roll
indigo canyon
is this salvageable if i replace both blessings for headhunter and deadly accura...
honestly opening salvo isn't that bad on 1a, I'd swap BtE and unyielding for deadly accurate and flak
lofty lintel
alr thanks
broken vale
slender turtle
Guessing theres no ability changing talent that increases movement speed aside from the aura that gives a meger 5%
zealous wyvern
he looks like an abhuman
tight blaze
if I buy the 40K Rogue trader do I get the cosmetic bundle in darktide?
gleaming turtle
No
lost lake
The rogue trader bundle is just a crossover sale.
Like fortnite with their crossover skins
gleaming turtle
Not even
mystic belfry
5% movespeed each
sharp ember
What are the attack patterns for the rashad mk2 combat axe?
if nobody answered you yet, it’s the same as antax: horizontal lights and overhead heavies
slender turtle
5% movespeed each
I know the aura. Missed the small stone one. But man having no movement speed hurts my brain
tight blaze
The rogue trader bundle is just a crossover sale.
oo aye okay
mystic belfry
If you really want high movespeed, hold heavy attack on knife or hold bayonet attack on helbore rifles
They grant a movespeed bump, which will stack on top of the 10%
zealous wyvern
The rogue trader bundle is just a crossover sale.
i disagree since it is in universe content
actual crossovers usually break immersion completely due to being from others worlds
still have a point though
sharp ember
just conveniently timed 😉
zealous wyvern
you were just explaining to someone
gleaming turtle
actual crossovers usually break immersion completely due to being from others wo...
You aren't wrong.
tawdry hull
do u guys like the mark III shovel?
mystic belfry
Don't care still overpriced garbage like all skins these days
zealous wyvern
just being conversational
lost lake
i disagree since it is in universe content
I meant game wise. He's not getting it for free for buying rogue trader. But true crossover was the best word I could think of in that moment
zealous wyvern
ye
sharp ember
excepting psyker i like them, just not for me
mystic belfry
it's clearly a crossover though
tawdry hull
the pirate customes looks ass imo except ogryn body
tawdry hull
that ogryn head tho... like a condom...
zealous wyvern
noooo
sharp ember
the disrespect to floppy naval hats
tawdry hull
lol
mystic belfry
Haven't even looked honestly
tawdry hull
at least the psyker hat is back i really wanted to get
sharp ember
okay but damn i wish we had a power cutlass to go with the strangely common pirate outfits we get
zealous wyvern
zealous wyvern
true i might buy it
tawdry hull
its very expensive... but its looking good
tall torrent
anyways the bolter skin slaps
It’s very good
Almost looks like a space marine bolter in terms of color scheme
Reminds me of the retributors chapter from the astartes fan film
tawdry hull
bolbgun
deft atlas
Any suggestions for perk and blessing?
tawdry hull
i like the.. bleed stacking
but its personal maybe not meta
also i like maniac aswell
deft atlas
yeah I want bleed but I'm wondering if it's worth it over dmg from perks
astral ingot
Any suggestions for perk and blessing?
stamina to maniac or flak
rev it up to thrust
tawdry hull
kinda annoying i cant run with the chainaxe charg attack
sharp ember
kinda annoying i cant run with the chainaxe charg attack
i feel it whenever switching off from a weapon that can’t sprint with a heavy
tall torrent
Finally done the breakpoint calculations for a couple of my guns
sharp ember
side dodging closer is silly but my solution
tall torrent
I now have perfectly optimized builds for them and can proceed to spend 700k dockets to brick a Rashad
fleet thicket
guys
i found something suprising
really really suprising
so when they reworked aggrpina HH
they turned it into like a mid range version of the HHs
it got faster fire rate than
vrak 3
fleet thicket
TTK?
tall torrent
They did buff it but it’s still an awkward middle child
The best dps headhunter is still vraks3
tall torrent
Agripinaa9 is usable
But vraks3 is better in most situations
It benefits from headhunter better, has lower recoil, and higher dps
fleet thicket
it
benefits alto from
deadly accrurate
though
it got really good damage honestly
i would argue in the mid range
cuz of its fire rate
it can kill more targets
but vrak 3 beats it in long range
cuz of its zoom...
topaz salmon
Hey, u guys like the old laspistol? I rolled a 378 with only low mobility. What build would you run with it? Which melee weapon suits best?
delicate moat
am i dumb or does previewing some of the premium cosmetics crash anyone else
tropic imp
Hey, u guys like the old laspistol? I rolled a 378 with only low mobility. What ...
I like the old one a lot more than the new one
Definitely viable, works good with basic focus fire build
But works amazingly with weapon specialist
The guaranteed crit you get after a melee kill gives you a 2 shot crit string when swapping into it, which kills any trapper/bomber/flamer instantly
topaz salmon
that sounds really cool, does a fast melee weapon makes sense? What are good perks and blessings for the autopistol?
tall torrent
aggrpina HH is the middle ground bttween the IAGs and HHs
Yea the lower zoom is much nicer
Vraks autoguns have this stupidly high zoom that’s very awkward for close range
tropic imp
that sounds really cool, does a fast melee weapon makes sense? What are good per...
I like Devil claw 4, chainaxe 4 and sapper shovel 3 are my favourites
All 3 have great horde clear and give an answer to crushers which the laspistol struggles against
I like dumdum and infernus, but raking fire is also good instead of infernus
fleet thicket
im gonna say this devil claw 7
is the one iwth most
intresting moveset
takes alot ot get use to
but goddam its fine
fun i mean
trail knot
are the new shovels any better than the OG shovel?
rich flicker
are the new shovels any better than the OG shovel?
Depends if you like the OHKO abilities
gusty bison
are the new shovels any better than the OG shovel?
Different
New shovel is a bit like a thunderhammer
indigo canyon
vraks 7 feels like an autogun version of the 1a lasgun
gusty bison
Old shovel is stagger city
rich flicker
A thunderhammer that holds it's charge indefinitely.
gusty bison
vraks 7 feels like an autogun version of the 1a lasgun
XII rather
indigo canyon
nah it fires faster than it
gusty bison
It doesnt like shooting as fast as the 1a
rich flicker
At least til you hit something/swap off shovel.
gusty bison
Cos u get more dps from surgical than spamfire
trail knot
can the new shovel one shot crusher?
gusty bison
can the new shovel one shot crusher?
Yes
gusty bison
Vraks 7 has absurd finesse and relies on deadly accuratr
To the point where ur better off with 1 crit headshot than 2.5 normal headshots
Or 8 body shots
Its hilariously ludicrous
I get like 300 damage on a rager bodyshot
And 2.4k on a head
frank ether
deadly accurate is kinda nuts
only thing holding vraks back is marksman keystone being rather mid overall
it potentially has some good rending and toughness regen for you but potential is a big keyword there
speaking of which flat rending just beats onslaught for vraks guns
near sable
it's interestingly more useful on full automatic weaponry
as you can use one of your possibly 50 bullets to kill a single dude and carry your ten stacks
woven coral
which blessings to go with the new vet shovel please?
near sable
although the start stop babying of stacks reminds me of 1.0 psyker
woven coral
I'm guessing decimator and what else?
frank ether
I mean stacking it is not the only problem
near sable
where they just vaporized from 6 bb stacks to 0 after three seconds
frank ether
the rending you get from marksman focus is only active with 10 stacks, hella inconsistent for slower guns
near sable
I'm guessing decimator and what else?
it takes uncanny? put uncanny on it.
unsure about deci, have both on my old shovel. max stacks ws mutie hits for 1300 on heavy
woven coral
it takes uncanny? put uncanny on it.
ah damn it that's the only t4 blessing i'm missing for it
thanks
versed merlin
uhhh was this supposed to cover the eye?
rare bough
How do you do, fellow Veterens.
Isn't shooting the best? I sure do love it and am very good at it.
gentle maple
If I built a plasma vet to beat Karnak bell mode. What stats, perks, and blessings do I go for? Barely ever touched plas in my life
rare bough
Scripture? No no, these are pages from the astra mili-thingy field manual
mellow adder
WE FINALLY GOT POWER CYLER 4 AFTER 15K PLASTEEL 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
versed merlin
grats
15k is pretty cheap for such a rare t4 blessing tbh
i got my t3 pc after like 30k or so...
nimble sentinel
How do you do, fellow Veterens.
Isn't shooting the best? I sure do love it and a...
trail leaf
WE FINALLY GOT POWER CYLER 4 AFTER 15K PLASTEEL 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
400h in this game and still haven't seen pc4, tired of trying to craft sword at one point and never seen it in shop
fluid gust
Trying to see how cool the combat blade can be on vet, I really do like the jab -> heavy 3 combo they have on it
Because if you have the serrated blade talent, the jab adds a bleed stack and the Mercy Killer blessing adds +60% weak spot damage on enemies with bleed stacks
sharp ember
i might be crazy but it feels like mercy killer has been applying on the initial strike when i use it
jade notch
Got two Mk IV ChAxes, contemplating which one to keep 🤔
rose wedge
how do I not fuck this up prodigiously
untold hull
Got two Mk IV ChAxes, contemplating which one to keep 🤔
take bloodletter from one chainaxe and put it on the 1st one
jade notch
how do I not fuck this up prodigiously
Swap out Elites for Flak, tbh. Not bad.
gentle maple
Thanks but what are the good plasma stats though? What's most important and what's the dump stat?
jade notch
take bloodletter from one chainaxe and put it on the 1st one
Bloodletter and Slaughterer? Is Thrust not that good on the Mk IV ChAxe?
versed merlin
only if you want to one shot crushers i think
jade notch
Ahhh
rose wedge
Swap out Elites for Flak, tbh. Not bad.
if I discover I can one tap the flak heads already, but struggle with Maniac, should I Do maniac instead? I guess I could experiment with either since the slot will be tinker-able
untold hull
Bloodletter and Slaughterer? Is Thrust not that good on the Mk IV ChAxe?
only time I used thrust was on a shovel and the time to charge was obscenely longer than I thought
rose wedge
also I'm guessing Onslaught IV isn't that big an upgrade from III
jade notch
if I discover I can one tap the flak heads already, but struggle with Maniac, sh...
Yeah, do Maniac if you can 1-tap Flak Elites without the Flak Perk
jade notch
only time I used thrust was on a shovel and the time to charge was obscenely lon...
Hmm, fair point, I was thinking I'd at least benefit from some of Thrust because of the ChAxe's heavies for horde clear.
I wish I had Headtaker IV but nope, no dice
rose wedge
a whole week of Melk bringing me absolute dogwater items
untold hull
Bloodletter and Slaughterer? Is Thrust not that good on the Mk IV ChAxe?
in fact replace slaughterer for bloodletter, regardless of it being tier 4
because headtaker will proc as you rend enemies to shreds instead of after the fact, being more useful vs enemies you can't just headshot (everyone except infantry)
I dont know what to replace that crit dmg with
small echo
Kantrael mk x Heavy Las pistol Blessings and Perks?
jade notch
in fact replace slaughterer for bloodletter, regardless of it being tier 4
becau...
Think I'll take the first ChAxe, replace the Crit Damage with Maniac, then swap Headtaker II with some other Blessing, then swap that Blessing when I get Headtaker IV
You gotta point with not being able to get the most out of Thrust.
jade notch
Yeah, that's waaaaaay too long a commitment
versed merlin
what weapons and abilities cooks up with marksman focus?
its the only keystone that i still didnt get a feeling into and hadnt played anything cool with so far
jade notch
Rapid-firing guns proc Marksman Focus the easiest, so I think the Infantry Autoguns get a lot of mileage out of them?
I like running it with my Kantrael MG Ia
robust mesa
Been off the game for a few days
but I heard there was a new mission with a 'secret' difficulty
anyone playin rn tryna run that?
gentle maple
Thanks!
jade notch
Lotta LFGs in the #vox-lfg-nasa channels currently tryna do it/find people to do it
versed merlin
Rapid-firing guns proc Marksman Focus the easiest, so I think the Infantry Autog...
interesting and do you need exec stance to hit breakpoints?
jade notch
interesting and do you need exec stance to hit breakpoints?
Not sure, and I honestly don't know!
versed merlin
thats okay
jade notch
Yeah, I don't tend to use the Psykhanium much. I'd rather just bring a Build into a Run and try to complete it.
jade notch
Mobility, at least for me.
dense notch
Does thrust stacking speed scale woth attack speed or finesse speed bonuses?
lofty lintel
I run inf lasgun with focus target
versed merlin
if only i could dump stability 
aahh for this one im looking specifically for a weapon to run with marksman focus
so i can make use of that keystone
jade notch
if only i could dump stability <:sadrodeo:908137580221067264>
You don't actually need a lot of Stability either, worst comes to worst you can take Determined/Suppression Immunity so trying to shoot back at Gunner Packs doesn't fuck up your aim as bad.
lofty lintel
Oh yeah marksman focus i feel like is def better for infantry lasgun
I just also rely on my melee a lot and focus target dmg boosts are for both weapons
waxen abyss
Imagine if stability meant how stable your lasgun is before exploding (hadron bricked it)
lofty lintel
So it works
And its consistent dmg
Marksman focus i recommend m1a and mk12 infantry lasgun
Rn m1a has more dps
versed merlin
what are the differences?
lofty lintel
You can also use any IAG or my personal favorite helbore lasguns
versed merlin
i cant get into helbore
lofty lintel
what are the differences?
M1a has medium firerate and "medium" (cracked) dmg whereas mk12 is supposed to be the slowest shooting highest dmg one
M1a does 200 more dps than mk12
lofty lintel
Yes
versed merlin
then im pretty sure one is going to get buffed or the other nerfed
jade notch
what are the differences?
Damage per Shot vs RoF, generally
12 is the slowest, most damaging shot
4 is the inverse
MG Ia is the middle
Except the MG Ia is almost the same per-shot damage as the 12 while having vastly faster RoF, which is why it's preferred as Mateo said
lofty lintel
The damage per shot * rate of fire is more than mk12's
versed merlin
hmm but still if i can build marksman focus faster, then that means higher dps anyway
lofty lintel
My kantrael mk12
Shots fired per second is 2.5
M1a fires 3.64 shots per second
Max dmg being 262.50
versed merlin
oof
versed merlin
by a pretty considerable margin even
lofty lintel
by a pretty considerable margin even
Yeah
versed merlin
what blessings should i be looking for a 1a?
and does it changes between 1a and 12?
lofty lintel
Headhunter and deadly accurate yeah
versed merlin
awww\
midnight mortar
But m1a outclasses it
In DPS, yes. However the 12 still has a faster TTK with headshots.
versed merlin
hardron had to brick it
lofty lintel
Thats true
jade notch
If you have to between Perks or Blessings for the Kant Lasguns, choose Blessings
lofty lintel
Yeah always
midnight mortar
Often with the Inf lasguns what matters most is TTK over raw dps.
thick kestrel
yeah the trick between the MG12 and the 1a is that the 12 is trading overall dps for up front alpha. there are target specific situations where it wins out by only needing a single shot vs 2.
midnight mortar
Since you have high volumes of targets you need to kill quickly.
thick kestrel
but that swings the other way against beefier targets
lofty lintel
Makes sense
midnight mortar
But in the end with the changes, they're all roughly on par in performance for viable weapons.
I still prefer the 12 if I have to pick one variant.
Easier to line up headshots than with the Ia.
Especially at range.
The recoil becomes noticeable with the faster fire rate lasrifles.
lofty lintel
Oh definitely
versed merlin
lofty lintel
Stopping power is your dmg modifier against armoured enemies
midnight mortar
That stopping power really hurts.
lofty lintel
I would say 2nd most important stat
Yeah
I was typing in holy shit thats an amazing roll and stopped when i saw the 55 stopping power
versed merlin
hahaha thats my life in a nutshell
lofty lintel
But hey
You have t3 headhunter there
So you can get that blessing and have it ready for ur next one
versed merlin
i have t4 learned
lofty lintel
Damn..
dark rampart
Power sword + Infiltrate = Invincible ninja
toxic leaf
what is the best loadout for melee vet?
eternal sable
this is proably the worst place to ask that
pulsar drift
what is the best loadout for melee vet?
Power sword plasma gun
graceful glen
i got power cycler 3 on my first PS at hadron
slate sleet
knife or you kiss boys
graceful glen
ive been using the knife for a while 😛
eternal sable
mercy killer ?
eternal sable
uncanny strike is best
graceful glen
what should i do with the perks on that?
toxic leaf
this is proably the worst place to ask that
wait what
graceful glen
flak armored?
toxic leaf
im asking because i want to be not useless at the twins and melee vet is the way to go, but im not sure just left side plus ps is the loadout lol
slate sleet
this is what i use and its pretty disgusting with the punch combo
muted knot
that plasmagun overkill lmao
toxic leaf
this is what i use and its pretty disgusting with the punch combo
ah i figured knife was the play, sad that i dont keep a good one
muted knot
Might have taken some of his targets away lol
slate sleet
just snagged this badboy
muted knot
just snagged this badboy
concecrate RIGHT NOW
toxic leaf
how much plasteel do you get on the twins from heresy? i wasted...a lot of it trying to bless axes and other guns last night
muted knot
I know the room before the end fight has a fair amount
But I can't say if it's above average
slate sleet
muted knot
<:joever:1024068010606084159>
How does that happen ? Do you just upgrade to blue ?
slate sleet
i have exclusively played damnation since beta
muted knot
Does damnation give more diamantine ?
muted knot
I meant how do you have so much diamantine and so little plasteel
I heard it's a problem in general
slate sleet
plasteel is more common lower difficulties
muted knot
Guess I need to run more 2s lol
toxic leaf
I meant how do you have so much diamantine and so little plasteel
yea its blessing hunting from grey to blue in my experience
even t4 blessing hunts take more plasteel, diamantine is just kinda useless
slate sleet
i hate seeing funnycube
slate sleet
depends on your build
what difficulty you play
ranged dmg immunity is good all around if you are non stealth
2 dmg blessings if you are greedy
toxic leaf
dumdum/anything, combine the ranged immunity with the left side thing at the bottom, i forget what its called
dodging gives stamina
duck n dive
yea bsaically, i would actualyl change your perks at that point
crit chance is so giga on columnus and then a damage perk
columnus crits and weakpoint hits are nasty, you can do like 2000dps to a mauler easy
woeful junco
Guess I need to run more 2s lol
you don't get more plasteel from t2
you just get near-zero diamantine
in damnation you earn about 3:1 plasteel to diamantine ratio, but you use about 4:1 ratio while consecrating
so people accrue more diamantine than they can spend over time
viral lion
Decided to switch to a plasma gun + shout Vet for HM Twins. This is the first Plasma gun I ever crafted. Anything I should change? Thinking of changing flak to carapace
gusty bison
Decided to switch to a plasma gun + shout Vet for HM Twins. This is the first Pl...
No unarmoured?
Thats missing a pretty nasty breakpoint on gunners
woeful junco
Decided to switch to a plasma gun + shout Vet for HM Twins. This is the first Pl...
carapace for crushers and twins/maulers headshots seems pretty value yeah
woeful junco
Thats missing a pretty nasty breakpoint on gunners
no gunners in that fight I think
gusty bison
Elites then you want maniac if gunners are not a concern
woeful junco
plasma vet can take care of that, leaving the rest of the team free to beat on the twins
I think that fight spawns scab ragers, not dreg ragers
but dont quote me on that
_>
jade notch
It's all Scabs, far as I remember
woeful junco
yeah same
viral lion
you need to kill the elites
Yeah that's why I'm switching to plasma. The bosses don't bother me it's the just the crowd and elites that are a pain in the ass. And yeah it's just scabs
gusty bison
There might be an extreme edge case where focus target exec stance plasma with +flak can 1 tap head on ragers
But thats a rough build
woeful junco
Yeah that's why I'm switching to plasma. The bosses don't bother me it's the jus...
if flak doesnt matter for the rager bp then do carapace yeah
gusty bison
if flak doesnt matter for the rager bp then do carapace yeah
Maniac for the specials?
gusty bison
Yes
woeful junco
ok
gusty bison
It needs it for flamer
woeful junco
that's pretty good too then, but that fight spawns less flamers than stg
it's mostly elites
jade notch
Mostly Scab Mobs (Shooters and Melee both), Scab Ragers, Crushers and Maulers, yeah
viral lion
if flak doesnt matter for the rager bp then do carapace yeah
Thanks for the advice I'll try it out tomorrow. And yeah it's mostly elites that spawn
woeful junco
getting yoinked by trappers in the gas phase can be death sentence though
gusty bison
I think cara on plasma is not good
woeful junco
The crusher bp barelt changes
sure but your dmg improves
gusty bison
Also take gloryhunter instead of gets hot
woeful junco
this shit is so demanding that solo ttk is not the only relevant factor. if you make it easier for a teammate to finish off a crusher beacuse you did 25% more dmg with your two uncharged shots, then that's still worth
gusty bison
Kinda? I dunno if it helps ttk nowadays ngl
gusty bison
Not when so much shit 1 or 2 shots crushers
woeful junco
keeping the arena clean of big melee elites is probably the single most important thing you can do for pubbing the twins fight. premades can optimize into other roles (a void shield shredder like a gunlugger ogryn with a stubber is reeeaaaally useful) but yeah
woeful junco
the bossfight?
hard mode specifically
cosmic aurora
We just ran chain weapons for the people on boss duty
slate sleet
ive pubbed it like 3 times now
gusty bison
hard mode specifically
Helbore bayo mvp
slate sleet
maybe eu is cracked
woeful junco
ive pubbed it like 3 times now
impressive
gusty bison
Ngl i still think the helbore buff is a mistake
woeful junco
I only failed miserably in pubs
had to get a good premade and then it took us 3 tries
slate sleet
its a thing i noticed
when i play with my NA friend we get the biggest assdraggers but when i solo on eu i have 3 terminators spawncamping everything refinery gaming style
versed merlin
this chats full of 100 hour heresy players
someone please pin this
torpid pier
Thats missing a pretty nasty breakpoint on gunners
what does breakpoint mean?
gusty bison
im asking because i want to be not useless at the twins and melee vet is the way...
If ur still wondering.
Revolver, New Shovel, Weapon Specialist
slate sleet
we need raider io for this game
gusty bison
what does breakpoint mean?
A breakpoint is a point where the number of shots to kill a target changes
versed merlin
new shovel with weap spec is absurd bonkers
viral lion
I have no friends that play darktide so I have to go public. Got close to beating the twins in HM but just got absolutely swarmed haha.
gusty bison
Like against a 1.4k hp target. If u deal 1350 damage its 2 shots to kill, but 1450 damage is 1 shot
1.4k damage is thus the breakpoint
torpid pier
ah i see, ty
jade notch
I'm Asia+Pacific, so it took me 2-3 different LFGs here and around 5-6 hours cumulatively before I got 'The Bell Tolls For Thee'
novel nimbus
I haven't played in like a month did the vet tree get unfucked yet
cosmic aurora
I haven't played in like a month did the vet tree get unfucked yet
I like it right now personally but ymmv
gusty bison
im asking because i want to be not useless at the twins and melee vet is the way...
Lemme get u the full build
novel nimbus
I like it right now personally but ymmv
I preferred old vet ngl
sharp ember
terminator vet with only 2 builds
cosmic aurora
I preferred old vet ngl
I get to shout at everyone and never have to reload my revolver with new vet
gusty bison
Which mk of new shovel was the one with the heavy strike downs?
sharp ember
mk3 shobel
slate sleet
nothing will compare to old camo expert 😔
gusty bison
I preferred old vet ngl
I mean unwavering needed to go
novel nimbus
Eh fuck guess I'm a zealot main now.
cosmic aurora
im asking because i want to be not useless at the twins and melee vet is the way...
I did the hm twins with devilsword, revolver, shout and middle keystone
For the extra damage and team wide buffs
cosmic aurora
Eh fuck guess I'm a zealot main now.
I mean the old vet is basically still in with left tree
novel nimbus
I mean the old vet is basically still in with left tree
Yeah but the right tree was chefs kiss
cosmic aurora
Right tree is pretty good right now
novel nimbus
Pretty sure the trench drill one used to deadass be 20-25% extra swing speed
sharp ember
smonk grenade on top 💯
gusty bison
Pretty sure the trench drill one used to deadass be 20-25% extra swing speed
It was 15%
Now its 10%
novel nimbus
They nerfed the rending too
sharp ember
debuffs are brittleness so yeah
novel nimbus
So many moving parts that are completely opaque to the average player, no wonder pubs are shit
nimble sentinel
gusty bison
So many moving parts that are completely opaque to the average player, no wonder...
Nah pubs are shit cos they dont learn fundamentals
Like how not to get cornered by 5 poxwalkers
cosmic aurora
Weapon specialist brings your attack speed up to 25% if you got the 10% attack speed node too
nimble sentinel
I found a fun tip for surviving the fight that is definitely totally for veterans pinky promise
cosmic aurora
You just have to kill like any 1 enemy with your gun lol
novel nimbus
Like how not to get cornered by 5 poxwalkers
Or how not to shoot poxwalkers while teammates are adjacent 
gusty bison
You just have to kill like any 1 enemy with your gun lol
On top of a 25% damage buff. A 25% finesse buff and a 10% crit buff and brittleness on crit and...
novel nimbus
Chainaxe is going to be OP next patch btw calling it here.
barren cave
is picking the max focus stack increase to 8 worth it, doesnt seem like it
thick rose
well shit. yet again, I waited too long to jump up to auric quickplay and discovered that its easier than dam like dam was easier than her
gusty bison
is picking the max focus stack increase to 8 worth it, doesnt seem like it
Yes. Cos it also invreases the buff stacks for redirect fire
barren cave
what is redirect fire?
barren cave
ah
gusty bison
That one accumulates stacks for each target down and fully resets even if u pop something at low stacks
novel nimbus
well shit. yet again, I waited too long to jump up to auric quickplay and discov...
Yeah I personally fudged around on heresy difficulty for a week before jumping over to damnation aurics and finding them genuinely easier.
gusty bison
So if u have 8 stacks of redirect. U kill a guy with 1 stack of focus target, the full 8 stacks refreshes
barren cave
That one accumulates stacks for each target down and fully resets even if u pop ...
damn, the only reason I didnt take max focus stack increase to 8 is because most things die pretty quick before it builds
cosmic aurora
Redirect and Target Down were pretty clutch for the twins hm
Get Rodin outta here asap
celest vine
4 ogryns
novel nimbus
Anyway ya'll ever have a teammate announce they gotta take a sloppy ass shit mid-mission and then dip for like 15 minutes
Gotta say, chattiest elevator I've ever been in. I found out more about the Zealot's irl hobbies than I ever wanted to.
cosmic aurora
Anyway ya'll ever have a teammate announce they gotta take a sloppy ass shit mid...
Well no but usually it’s me that needs to do that