veteran-class

[south garnet]

don't spend too crazy on stuff you don't think you'll like or you'll end up as poor and miserable as everyone else you see in the server

[crisp bronze]

There is a secret Hard Mode in the Orthus Offensive activated by hitting 7 bells around the map a certain amount of times each. It affects only the final fight but it makes the Twins tougher, spawns more elites and specials more frequently and if anyone dies they can't be rezzed. The totem is placed in a locked jail cell that is inaccessable.

[safe dawn]

Brunt and Hadron on their way to give you 1 single weapon above a 330 just to brick it:

[sharp ember]

it’s the melee weapon with the best shot at stunlocking and killing them before 11 ragers run you down

[quick moth]

Already running outta shit to spend my money on anyway lol

[sharp ember]

in a timely manner too

[novel stone]

I have money but plasteel is my problem

Need me mf power cycler

[safe dawn]

Diamantine -> Plasteel converter when

[novel stone]

Real

Hell, let me BUY it

[south garnet]

I don't want a converter, I just want something to spend it on. Like breaking locks, or...

No, actually, no 'or'. Like breaking locks.

Give me the fucking ability to break locks

you fucks

[sharp ember]

diamantine-filled buckshot for shotguns

[novel stone]

YES! I JUST GOT IT AFTER I TALKED ABOUT IT

RAAAHH

Too bad it's 3 not 4

[green yacht]

I am looking into the different lasguns right now and noticed with some the stormtrooper perk will not trigger

[south garnet]

3 is still miles better than none

power sword is the worst weapon with the worst feel without PC

[novel stone]

How dare

[south garnet]

I'm honestly still not sure what possessed them to design it the way they did, followed by 'fixing' it the way they did, but whatever

[quick moth]

I don't know why the weapon doesn't just come with the blessing. It should.

[safe dawn]

it used to I think

was a bit OP

[south garnet]

power cycler didn't used to exist, that was just all power swords

[novel stone]

I felt so naked without it

[midnight mortar]

Disconnect from the playerbase and high quality testing.

[quick moth]

Interesting. So power swords initially had power cycler 3/4 built in PLUS another two blessings of choice?

[terse idol]

It was for the best

Especially considering first iteration power sword literally had infinite cleave

[quick moth]

Wow WTF lol

[midnight mortar]

I agree a nerf was needed, but applying a bandaid solution via "just move it to a blessing" doesn't fix the inherent problem.

[dense glade]

turns out, infinity is hard to balance

[terse idol]

I mean

[south garnet]

It still basically has infinite cleave for all intents and purposes with charged brutal momentum swings. I mean it doesn't, but in actual ingame situations it might as well

[terse idol]

It didn't need infinite cleave

All I can is whew

Veteran were petty when it got nerfed

[quick moth]

This is a very Fatshark way of doing things though.

[broken spade]

it got nerfed from literally infinite to like 11

[terse idol]

As far as I heard

Darktide literally got review bombed

When it was made reaonavle

[terse idol]

And its still one of the strongest weapons vet have

When built right

[broken spade]

they had to make it infinitely worse and it was still overpowered

[terse idol]

Like that's the crazy part

Infinitly worse is still like saying they made it more

In line with other weapons

And its still above

[obtuse raft]

Relevant old meme from the power sword spam meta

[bitter turtle]

It was meh on patch 13 tbf

[south garnet]

Yea power sword is just... power sword, there's practically no analog

[terse idol]

We got plenty of great options

I certainly wouldn't break over power sword needing blessings to be good, it's a nice treat

[broken spade]

7 swings with infinite cleave was wild

[terse idol]

Yeah

[quick moth]

IDK, I think power cycler anything is mandatory for it

[novel stone]

@south garnet does lvl 4 pc give like 3 attacks or just more dmg

[south garnet]

Yep, lots of solid melee weapons. And every class has their "OP" weapons or more accurately their "turn brain off, want to be lazy piece of shit" weapons

[dense glade]

power sword is just really satisfying to swing into hordes lol

[south garnet]

PC does nothing for damage, both levels just add more charged swings. BM is where you get your extra damage/cleave

[bitter turtle]

Like idk if ppl remember but the finesse stab combo cancel was added bc ppl were meh on it during 13

[fervent pulsar]

Resupply challenge is at a slow pace, any methods to make more scavenge happen?

[quasi socket]

higher difficulty, more special enemies

[south garnet]

yea there is something viscerally satisfying about seeing someone struggling with a mixed horde, especially when they're someone you enjoy watching suffer such as a knife zealot, walking up and clearing their entire side with two swings before pivoting and blasting a killfeed's worth of specials they didn't even know existed

[fervent pulsar]

Find more and bigger things to kill, on it

[lean light]

LASGUN AND SHOVEL GRAAAAAH

[past stag]

whats up with the fire shotgun, it can't even one shot regular enemies and takes half an age to burn a special. Am i missing something?

[midnight mortar]

I doubt those knife zealots even register that.

[topaz pebble]

Cause shotguns are trash

[terse idol]

Some of them

[south garnet]

Probably not. doubt they can even physically see it. the way they play I assume their FOV is set to 2 degrees

[terse idol]

Shotguns are fine

With weapon spec

Lawbringer

[midnight mortar]

As in, I doubt the knife zealot even thinks "huh, I'm struggling with this horde".

[bitter turtle]

Fire rounds penetrate bulwark shields

[past stag]

they penetrate but take 5 mins to kill one

[lean light]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-gif-25213591

[bitter turtle]

Use multiple

[terse idol]

Well you need to create more fire stacks

1 fire stack is sleeper

[bitter turtle]

Shouldn't take tha5 long

[south garnet]

I always imagine the knife zealot deftly dodging every blow, exchanging lightning-fast strikes, "heh I'm practically untouchable" he thinks, "my teammates are surely applauding me, they're probably dead by now and mesmerized by my spectacular display" as the camera slowly pulls out from his intense action highlighted with extra color saturation and shot in slow motion like zack snyder's 300 -
only to reveal the zealot still engaged with a single poxwalker with each of his teammates fighting 150 apiece

[rigid schooner]

The Virgin stealth knife

The Chad stealth thunderhammer

[delicate lotus]

anyone wane help fairly inexpirienced vet player beat up the twins

[quick moth]

They're the m'lady fedora katana weeb of Darktide.

[terse idol]

The Zeta Horde clear Knife user:

[rigid schooner]

Why knife when flamer exist

?

[terse idol]

Flamer when carapace

[bitter turtle]

Just think of kant shotty as same role as revolver but you swap elite sniping for m horde control

[rigid schooner]

"Here's 32 fire stacks have fun"

[terse idol]

10dmg a sec

[zealous wyvern]

damn, you guys are mean to knife zealots

[quick moth]

When the knife zealot joins your group: https://youtube.com/shorts/574lC1W8T5o?si=W6f57tlLCHj8jhSY

[terse idol]

Carapace is seemingly resistance

Second

Fire stacks aren't infinite

[rigid schooner]

We should be

[zealous wyvern]

respect the servant of the God Emperor or face the inquisition

[rigid schooner]

I will when he does his job

[zealous wyvern]

no matter they weapon of choice

the paragraph up there was very funny to read though

[obtuse raft]

Well they deserve it

Bring back bullying

[zealous wyvern]

this coming from vet chat

is ironic

[brisk sapphire]

Chastise

[zealous wyvern]

vet is the most universally hated class to be grouped with i am pretty sure

[brisk sapphire]

Nah psyker

Or maybe zealot

[quick moth]

By BB Psykers absolutely

[zealous wyvern]

famous for being dumb, selfish, unexperienced or rude

[brisk sapphire]

Vet gives ammo

[bitter turtle]

No that is my special build

[quasi socket]

love my psykers, love my ogryns, solo zealots getting wrecked and quitting tho? ill take a 2nd anything over that

[rigid schooner]

Throwing knives user detected

[zealous wyvern]

just be kind

all kinds of builds are good or bad

[rigid schooner]

A 2nd vet

[zealous wyvern]

solo zealots are annoying true

[obtuse raft]

Competent vets are fantastic.
Vet just attracts a LOT of the people who are only here because OMG 40k FPS and don't want to engage with the game for what it actually is.

[zealous wyvern]

well that would be ok if they stayed out of top difficulty

but my point was not that vets suck

my point was that people hate on vets all the time

[novel stone]

I need lvl 4 lmao

[zealous wyvern]

and yet you guys are hating on knfie zealots as if you were not in the position to understand how dumb it is

[quick moth]

Dinky pew pew laser go DAKKA

Yeah

[zealous wyvern]

but you are probably just joking around

i am tired

[south garnet]

yea, t4 PC is the creme de la creme

[obtuse raft]

50/50

[novel stone]

Can't wait to finally use my god sword in this next mission

[mint oar]

How do I look like the Veteran on the game cover?

[quasi socket]

i started vet, hated it because i didnt understand game, went to zealot, got that to 30, got tired of swinging sword, went back to vet, loving it

[novel stone]

You cant ):

[rigid schooner]

I still wonder how crazy a 4 team of vets would play lol
Everybody with things like scavenger and grenade Regen, unless they don't stack

[novel stone]

You van get close

[obtuse raft]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[terse idol]

I did play that

[zealous wyvern]

i love 4vet. those rounds always go perfect for me

[novel stone]

Got t4 bm tho! So it should be pretty dope, what are the best perks?

[mint oar]

Isnt the helmet for it behind a hard tier 3 penance?

[zealous wyvern]

3 vet is a catastrophe everytime though

[quick moth]

The experiences between the two are pretty similar. I use a Columnus for my Zealot though just due to getting a ridiculously good roll on one.

[frozen meadow]

I wish I could get the main menu helmet

[zealous wyvern]

1 2 and 4 vets is fine. 3 is bad

[novel stone]

No its different

Similar but different

[terse idol]

4 random Vets, everyone ran VOC I ran exec

[frozen meadow]

Will probably make you pay for it

[zealous wyvern]

you cant get the goggle version

[terse idol]

Ez pz

[mint oar]

Yeah you can, it's right there.

[rigid schooner]

I'm interested in trying it at some point, but vet is my last class to level lol

Wait, does scavenger stack?

[zealous wyvern]

no

[terse idol]

Uh

[zealous wyvern]

unless they just patched something

[south garnet]

I think people typically say flak/maniac. I like unyielding for bosses especially since I don't like spending ammo on them, personally

[flint garden]

auras dont stack

[rigid schooner]

I just think the four guardsmen team is funny

[terse idol]

I talked to some friends they said yeah, I talked to the discord they said no

I have no idea

[novel stone]

That's what I had so ig I'm just awesome

[terse idol]

I'm losing it

[zealous wyvern]

auras used to stack

i swear

veterans stacked ammo refill before the big update

[rigid schooner]

We need research

[flint garden]

just play a game with 4 vets running survivalist and shoot an elite with revolver

[quick moth]

All Ogryn and you all have to RP that you're stupid here and there is pretty fun

[zealous wyvern]

woah

appreciator

[shell ginkgo]

The goggled penance helmet is different from the cover art

[zealous wyvern]

oh you mean the krieger helmet

[obtuse raft]

It's hilarious how many ogryn players maintain character.

[zealous wyvern]

yeah that is not the same

[quasi socket]

its a whole new level of enjoying the game

[zealous wyvern]

being loud, dumb and open is the easiest roleplaying possible

i know this because roleplaying those dnd NPCs is always the easiest

you just dumb down your speech and say whatever

[quasi socket]

11.3k at brunts, new toy to play with

[quick moth]

I usually just play him for Melk bucks and tell the punies that I'll eat and beat them if they fail me.

Basically, I'm an Ork.

[zealous wyvern]

that is very mean

[shell ginkgo]

[zealous wyvern]

and sus

[quick moth]

If the Orktide expansion never happens, I'll be disappointed.

[kind hull]

Ogryn RP is always funny, and the moral boost is scientifically Proven to boost team performance

Source: I am the owner of a lab coat and therefore a scientist

[elder vessel]

Ork Scientist

[terse idol]

Krieg RP when you hit them with the "... ?"

"...."

[sharp ember]

absolutely not comrade, you're just feeling the loss of passive +40% ammo pool

looks at boltgun

i am too

+25% just doesn't hit the same

they want us to actually pick up ammo i guess

[terse idol]

Which is fiiine

Interacting with game mechanics

[nimble sentinel]

I'm sorry friends

[south garnet]

I don't know, myself and another shout vet sang country roads throughout the entire mission and told other players we were buffing them, I'm counting that as roleplay

[terse idol]

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-storm-lightning-cloudy-gif-17607709

[low oar]

Do you think I actually want to play the game that I'm running?

[sharp ember]

good looking guardsman

[rigid schooner]

Is there enough ammo in most missions to sustain 4 vets, or does everyone have to go super ammo efficient builds?

[zealous wyvern]

...

[brisk sapphire]

Depends on weapons and how you play

[rigid schooner]

Default name detected

[zealous wyvern]

why are you typing dots?

[rigid schooner]

...

[nimble sentinel]

I am NOT doing that grind again go push rocks

[zealous wyvern]

if you wanted krieg rp you would not type dots

[nimble sentinel]

jk ily

[rigid schooner]

Try putting an effort in smh tbh

[south spindle]

Oh welcome to the club

Enjoy your time as a shouty

[south garnet]

ellipsis wouldn't be a bad name tbh

[nimble sentinel]

quick Q: worth?

[serene sage]

traitor

[south garnet]

stupid enough for a 40k name

[south spindle]

Yeah i would

[terse idol]

[south spindle]

Might get lucky with rolls

[mint oar]

how do i become a kriegsman

[terse idol]

Kriegsmen don't talk much do they?

[zealous wyvern]

krieg is not real

no

[south garnet]

be a child

[rigid schooner]

Do you really want to be out shown by ogryn players on naming your character?

[serene sage]

krieg is literally a fictional name

[zealous wyvern]

talk is only for sharing new information

[nimble sentinel]

flak + dumdum yes?

[rigid schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/meat-bicycle-meat-axe-slice-borderlands-gif-24974993

[south garnet]

it's all real, do you really need me to point out cadia on a map?

[sharp ember]

yessiree

[south spindle]

Flak an FF/DS, dont get DumDum i dont believe

[zealous wyvern]

tell me where krieg is then

i wish to go there

[sharp ember]

welcome to graia brauto cult

[rigid schooner]

Every piece, please

[terse idol]

Cadia on a map be like 🪨 🪨

[nimble sentinel]

lol blaze it as in blaze my fucking serotonin I gotta grind some more

[serene sage]

a little over here
a little over there

[sharp ember]

retirement home for onslaught recon users

[south spindle]

Just use both

[serene sage]

okay what is the worst gun right now

yeah yeah everything is viable

[topaz pebble]

Recons

[serene sage]

shut up, give me the worst piece of crap you can think of

[south garnet]

I love child soldiers as much as the next guy but krieg is a very boring way to do it, sorry

[topaz pebble]

Recons

[south spindle]

Worst? Uhh... Krourk stubba

No contest neither

Thing sucks ass

[south garnet]

honestly I have no idea why anybody would use shredder

[topaz pebble]

Cause its not a recon

[serene sage]

yeah Krieg jokes are getting old, unlike their soldiers

[south garnet]

But, more seriously, probably an off brand devil's claw

[elder vessel]

I gave a feeling the Karnak twins were genuinely going to eat us if we died down there

[nimble sentinel]

I am stupid and you are correct

[serene sage]

I think I own a 380 of this kind

[elder vessel]

90% of the dialouge was just "I am going to eat you"

[south garnet]

I can't think of any weapons that would be truly borderline unusable. Closest might be pmaul on ogryn?

But that's more "pointless" than "worthless" or "terrible".

[serene sage]

well they should at least get to know me first smh

people are so pushy these days

[zealous wyvern]

thank you

[south spindle]

It really needs some touchups

Achlys and Gorgon both have a niche an Krourk is the redheaded step child that was unloved for most of its life

[serene sage]

are rippers good?

[south spindle]

Ye, all three fuck

[serene sage]

are they like Boltgun but not?

cause they sure look like an ogryn bolter

[finite imp]

Causemen

[south spindle]

MKV has highest min-pellet count, MKII is a close range mixed horde destroyer an MKVI has a duckbill pattern which is excellent for shooter packs

They aint like Boltgun no

[serene sage]

so MkV is the special/elite killer?

[south spindle]

Sort of, they all do it, MKV just reaches out a bit further

Bucks like a mule tho

[serene sage]

i want guns with recoil so high I backflip after every shot

[south spindle]

MKV then lmao

Its still gud tho

[reef ember]

If I tag something with 5 stacks of focus target and then tag it again, does the lower amount of stacks overwrite the previous tag?

[serene sage]

no, it simply doesn't tag

(despite the animation/ping sound)

I am not sure if two people tag it though

but if you are the lone pinger, the tag don't apply and continues to stack in reserve

[reef ember]

good to know :)

its annoying that it continues to ping though

[serene sage]

you can test it in the Psyk and look at your stack count at bottom in game

[sharp ember]

the person with more tag stacks overwrites it

[serene sage]

the more you know

my favorite mob pack must be that huge ass stack of shotgunners

[lofty lintel]

is this bricked

[finite imp]

????

Have we vets just lost it

Have we lost the plot

[lofty lintel]

maybe

[serene sage]

I think it's fine. Probably Azreal know more but I think Rashad just needs BM

[finite imp]

Have we flown a little too off the handle

[lofty lintel]

ah i see

[finite imp]

Azreal will just tell you BM and gg

And he'd probably be right

BM as it stands is nutty

[serene sage]

Headtaker and BM are enough

at least for me

[reef ember]

Also, what exactly is rending? Is it just a % of enemy armor ignored?

[south spindle]

Basically yeah

[serene sage]

yeah let's say Boltgun does 50% damage vs Carapace, with 10% rending it does 60%
the damage is additive up to 100% after which you start getting diminished returns

[reef ember]

but its not just armor but all types of damage reduction? Like, normal ragers don't have armor in the literal sense

or is it specifically vs carapace and flak armor?

[serene sage]

technically every enemies have a type of armor, including "unarmored" enemies

[reef ember]

yeah that's what I mean

[terse idol]

Well ragers have what like Unyielding

[serene sage]

Ragers are maniac

[terse idol]

Isn't that a armour type?

Or yeah maniac

[serene sage]

and it is an armor type, just like carapace and flak

[reef ember]

its not just literal armor

[serene sage]

yeah

let's call it a resistant type

you can check this easily if you inspect a weapon

[reef ember]

you mean the different armortypes, yeah? Not the effect of rending

[umbral scaffold]

lads sorry to bother but whats the bell talk with the twins about

[dense quartz]

theres 8 bells that need to be rang a set amount of times in the map

if you do this, the boss will get harder

[umbral scaffold]

whats the reward?

[dense quartz]

undoubtedly some epeen

ZD

XD

[reef ember]

penance?

[zealous wyvern]

insignia too i think

[serene sage]

yeah

[reef ember]

I thought I saw some penance that you get for beating the map on hard mode without anyone being downed? Might've been fake though

[serene sage]

ive seen screenshots of penances yeah

[reef ember]

that's way above me

[serene sage]

and insignia

[dense quartz]

well on hardmode you can get downed, not resssed when dead

[serene sage]

sounds like a nothing burger cause I just don't get hit 😎

[dense quartz]

XD

[terse idol]

The secret is fox runs the -99%max HP curio

😌

[serene sage]

glassiest of glass canon

[reef ember]

paper canon

[finite imp]

Rice paper cannon

The revolvers recoil damages us

[terse idol]

The balance Vets NEEDS

[serene sage]

malnutritions have caught up to us

[finite imp]

If you forget the pickles on my mcdouble I go down in the lobby

[terse idol]

80% of us don't even make it off the dropship

[reef ember]

those are the 40k numbers I know

[serene sage]

every step you have a 10% chance of being downed, slowly increases as stamina depletes

[finite imp]

A stiff breeze drops me to my knees in the Walmart parking lot this holiday season

[umbral scaffold]

huh, didnt realize there were more penances, the only ones i seen were the two 'kill two birds with one stone' from the twins

[reef ember]

missing one shot downs you

[sharp ember]

7 bells, the favored number of nurgle https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310

SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN

[zealous wyvern]

The guard advanced on the enemy outpost. Seventy million perished.

[reef ember]

13 bells is true-good number

[serene sage]

the imperium "holy" number is 6

[reef ember]

yes-yes

[serene sage]

are we are we the baddies?

[zealous wyvern]

no why

[serene sage]

cause 666?

[zealous wyvern]

it is a human number

[serene sage]

like the most elite legion of space marines is the 666th legion

[sharp ember]

we're the goodies, because no other civilization probably has starch-slab burgers

[reef ember]

its because its the number closes the sex

[sharp ember]

6 is the favorite number of slaanesh anyway, wonder why

[serene sage]

6 is just 9 inverted

[zealous wyvern]

sex is good because it can create more humans

we need more humans

[sharp ember]

well

how about those cloning vats on krieg

[zealous wyvern]

not

cloning

[serene sage]

but think about it, if there is no human, there is no corrupted humans

[zealous wyvern]

its accelerated growth with some gene manipulation

[serene sage]

sounds like cloning with extra steps

[sharp ember]

that sounds like cloning

[zealous wyvern]

not clones

no

[reef ember]

the guardsmene-pool

[serene sage]

your mom

[zealous wyvern]

its only touchups

not complete copy

[serene sage]

your mom is only touchups

[zealous wyvern]

exactly

the vitae wombs are only a touchup

thank you for seeing reason

[serene sage]

im actually blind

[zealous wyvern]

i had a funny thought just now

imagine if the humanoid krieger is just some random human bred basically braindead

[serene sage]

so like servitors but with extra steps?

[zealous wyvern]

and then a facehugger-like gasmask creature latches on

and controls the body

that is why they do not remove their mask

it is them

[reef ember]

does the gasmask also impregnate the kriegers like a facehugger?

[zealous wyvern]

no

otherwise the host would die and spawn a xeno

which is not the case

[reef ember]

imagine though, killing a kreiger and anothe krieger just bursts out of their belly

shovel in hand

[zealous wyvern]

good image to go to bed to

good rest to you soldiers

[sharp ember]

[north peak]

is there some secret penances?

[exotic sandal]

Man those kharnak twins punch hard, turned my veteran into mince meat with my 2 blocks of hit points

[north peak]

whit the new mission i mean

[chilly cobalt]

GLOOORY TO THE FIRST MAN TO DIEEE

[exotic sandal]

Those toxic clouds killed be rather than the twins

[delicate lotus]

Uff the Plasma gun will take me some time get used to

[hallow moat]

What’s the dump stat on the helbore

[exotic sandal]

Really cool boss though, gave me a few panic moments lol. Definitely gonna try again now that I know how to avoid the poison smoke

[quasi socket]

Like most things with vet, safe bet is mobility

[bitter turtle]

Mobility and ammo

It never runs out anyway

[odd plinth]

what do you think of my new chain sword?

[rigid schooner]

For the twins, and bosses in general, what actually is good for em?

I want to guess plasma or bolter

But I have half a mind to think borauto guns or something are better

[slender turtle]

Plasma and brains

[rigid schooner]

How do I build those then

[slender turtle]

Just however you normally do. the twins are flak and carapace so

[rigid schooner]

No I mean that other thing

[slender turtle]

I don't know. I haven't been on vet for it

[rigid schooner]

Also I thought plasma gun doesn't need flak

[little roost]

wtf they're not unyeilding?

[slender turtle]

It doesn't. I'm just saying that's what they consist of

They don't technically count as monstrosities

Just elites

[rigid schooner]

But that said, any other less obvious stand outs? I assume the revolver may be good? Idk

[slender turtle]

Revolver is always good. It's mostly the gas and ragers that flood in is what kills the run

[rigid schooner]

Any "sniper like" gun I assume is badly suited for bosses

[slender turtle]

Very

Have to be mobile and fast at killing

[steep vault]

depends what boss

[rigid schooner]

Well aside from twins, what about the assassination guy or monsters yeah

[slender turtle]

Melee boss is weak to range and ranged boss is weak to melee

[rigid schooner]

Isn't that just the shields?

[lofty lintel]

best lawbringer blessings?

[steep vault]

karnak twin's shield right?

[slender turtle]

I think all around for both

[steep vault]

it's shield only

[unborn ridge]

yo guys whats the best gun and build to sht on bosses?

[steep vault]

damage wise it's shield

[rigid schooner]

Scroll up homie

[slender turtle]

I wouldn't know. I just know that's what been working on them

[steep vault]

manstopper and fletchettes is what I like

[unborn ridge]

where man ?

[rigid schooner]

Aren't those max t2?

[lofty lintel]

worth picking up?

stability is a dumpstat on shottys right

[south prairie]

Not bad id say

[thorn lark]

yeah

[rigid schooner]

I think less of a dump than mobility but yeah

Grab it anyway

No need to obsess about perfect rolls for all but the very endgame shit

[thorn lark]

i have 80 and 20 stab shotguns, not that much of a difference tbh

[rigid schooner]

Imagine if we could get 380 stat equipment but one stat has like 15%

[steep vault]

yea

doesn't stop it from being good

[rigid schooner]

I guess I should farm shotguns while I still have a low level shop

[umbral scaffold]

ill be honest i think the inclusion of the karnak twins were to shut people up about fighting CSM

they can push an unprepared teams shit in

[flat osprey]

Give it a few days until that pops up again

[rigid schooner]

...csm?

[flat osprey]

Chaos Space Marines

[rigid schooner]

Ngl it would be funny to have a single, abandoned, wounded plague marine as a raid boss, or sequence of missions

[south spindle]

recon bad

[atomic zephyr]

brunt just sold me this fucking zinger
who wants to bet hadron's gonna brick it

nvm we cookin

[rigid schooner]

Ghost and weak spot get the boot

[atomic zephyr]

yep

gonna replace ghost w/ dumdum

[quasi socket]

idk how 2 shovel, kriegsmen, is this serviceable?

[terse idol]

great stats

[quasi socket]

will hold onto this in the hopes hadron blesses it accordingly

til then, must do zealot weeklies -.-

[nimble sentinel]

just had a game with this dude, please don't take recon if you don't know what you're doing

[umbral scaffold]

the sword karnak twin fights like an anime character meanwhile the plas pistol one is just the traitor captain

[nimble sentinel]

I am deleting my recon build in protest nobody should use this without the proper intent

[steep vault]

the trailer on youtube 😭

[steep vault]

cyberpsycho

[loud perch]

2 health curio and one toughness or 1 health 1 toughness and 1 wound?

[rigid schooner]

Is the intent to use ammo?

[serene sage]

who is Orthus and why is he offensive?
it's 2023 why can't people be more tolerable?

[atomic zephyr]

damn that fight is wild

[nimble sentinel]

the intent was to use broken rending to kill elites real quick and IN NECESSITY use it for the horde. The dude I was with was unloading on everything and was red on ammo after the first room

[atomic zephyr]

lost my first round but i didnt bring VoC for some reason

[flat osprey]

How the fuck

[rigid schooner]

Ngl, I just want an actual machine gun

[flat osprey]

Do you turn red on the first room

[umbral scaffold]

yay or nay

[rigid schooner]

Pen sadge

Imo just use milk to farm blessings

[umbral scaffold]

is that his cousin

[flat osprey]

That blessing is kinda funny

[umbral scaffold]

im mainly just looking at modifiers

the 25 maniac is nice and i could probably swap blessing

might as well get it no harm

[terse idol]

stast stinky

imo

[umbral scaffold]

yeahh

[flat osprey]

Its decent but that Pen just brings it down

[umbral scaffold]

better i dont then

alright g ty

[atomic zephyr]

lmao

[gleaming turtle]

What a shame

[quasi socket]

Ummm...at the very least i take the dumdum

[finite imp]

got told by a +400 true level to go touch grass

yes sir

[south prairie]

Ironic much lmao

[finite imp]

he kept fucking around around the dh and then said nah I don't want rewards to drop from Dh

i was like oh brother

[quasi socket]

....

wut

[finite imp]

idk something about regular teams get killed by DH's

[atomic zephyr]

update: votekicked this zealot, beat the twins easy

[finite imp]

he was one of hose gatekeeping difficulty psychos that would prefer the game only be accessible to leet gamers

[atomic zephyr]

lmfao, what's the deal with people saying rannick is a traitor? he seemed completely reasonable in shooting her down

[serene sage]

how do you avoid the gas in the last section?

is there a safe zone? i can't seem to see a way out?

[quasi socket]

in final room look for lit over head vent, that will be the safe area during the aoe phases

[serene sage]

i see

and the twins can only be damage when both their shield is down?

[lofty lintel]

Yes

[quasi socket]

the first room they flood with the poison, the vents on platform overhead light up, to show initial mechanic

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[devout patio]

guys any suggestions to make this better? is calvaclade good?

[elder vessel]

You usually want Surgical and Pinning Fire

[south prairie]

Everyone is a traitor, innocence proves nothing

[unborn ridge]

what are fl3ks?

if i wanna sht on crushers

do i want carapace dmg or

flak

[obtuse raft]

Crushers are carapace

[unborn ridge]

and the others?

the ones with the axe

[flint garden]

maulers are carapace head and flak body

[unborn ridge]

so carapace good

everytime

[flint garden]

well depends on the weapon, if it has low base carapace damage then itll still be garbage against them

[unborn ridge]

revolvers?

[flint garden]

zarona revolver can two shot them in the head if you crit with the t4 handcannon blessing

[unborn ridge]

IF i crit

i fail to boost crit even with the perks

xd

and agrippina revolver?

[flint garden]

if you have surgical, high crit base, and the deadshot talent most shots from zarona will crit

agripinaa is more for boss damage

[south spindle]

Oh dear... this aint supposed to happen

[swift ingot]

Example

[obtuse raft]

This is what the community thinks happens to you when you fire a single bolter round.

[thick rose]

how does resource reward work when you fail a mission?

like.. how much do you keep from ground / get rewarded at end (if any) ?

[wet anvil]

What’s a melee people don’t use with vet?

[swift ingot]

I think you get a quarter of what you would have gotten

[thick rose]

is it possible the special assignment is the best resource farm atm?

[kind hull]

Catachan sword I'd say

[serene sage]

Twins about to die

Game crashes

[unborn ridge]

can u share ur build?

[swift ingot]

Not my build or my clip, ask Azreal

[unborn ridge]

bro he has 100 crit chance?

O.o

[placid portal]

The Twins:
"Hey as long as it works we win"

[unborn ridge]

@formal lake

[bleak bolt]

soooooo Scattershot or No Respite on a shotgun?

[torpid fractal]

please send me luck with randoms, I have not been able to find a team that can both understand to not stand in the green death and who are capable of clearing hordes

[quasi socket]

good luck, i had a few....interesting groups in damnation today, lots of people rage dropping when they got downed

[sinful dawn]

Is this a good sword to pick up? I’m kinda iffy on the stats.

[torpid fractal]

I've not had that too much, but did literally have half the team run into the green in the first gas room, literally go to 1hp from it, and stay in it until they eventually died, managed to cover one of them till room was clear, then they killed themselves on a barrel with no enemies around right after

[quasi socket]

very least burn for pc4

@sinful dawn

[quasi socket]

if you can get one with brutal momentum, toss on the pc4 and you got yourself a nice one

[lost lake]

Every group I do with random on damnation always want to do the challenge mode. While I'm just wanting to run through and get better at damnation

[raw steppe]

very solid lol. swap out block eff and supercharge and you can use it for a very long time.

[sinful dawn]

What’s the difference for mk3 and mk 4 power sword?

[raw steppe]

mk6 is just better rn, due to poor balancing. but mk3 is supposed to be more offensive, mk6 is supposed to be more defensive

at least design-wise

[quasi socket]

think mk6 is what people are using for horde clearing/management

[wanton dawn]

Finally succeeded it

[lost lake]

What do you get out of completing it in challenge mode?

[sinful dawn]

Ah then I’ll save my money then for now and wait to see if tomorrow will give me a plasma gun or mk 6 sword

[quasi socket]

if trying to improve at damnation as a whole, just do any of the other missions.

[sinful dawn]

Thank you!

[raw steppe]

if you don't have tier4 power cycler, you really want to buy that sword right now

[lost lake]

I'm good at damnation, I'm getting used to the mission, especially the boss fight on that difficulty

[raw steppe]

I highly highly recommend doing that 😛

otherwise you'll regret it

[quasi socket]

^

[sinful dawn]

Is the difference between a mk 3 and mk 6 sword marginal or something?

[quasi socket]

waiting for melk to bless me with a pc4 finally so i can fix one of mine

[wanton dawn]

Vet has really good tool for that boss fight though

[marble lantern]

axes are still good ? *

[wanton dawn]

Shout, frags

frags are really freaking good

Also mark

The box

improved box

Well, I am vet main, I am going to vet main

[quasi socket]

see, lots of people arent paying attention to the adds and just focusing boss from the sounds of experiences posted today

[tiny summit]

I assume shout is best for this mission

[quasi socket]

will confess, shout was dope on this fight

[slim rivet]

Whats good to bring in with(lasrifle) vet on this special mission?

[tiny summit]

Haven't played it yet, but sounds like trying to run exe would not be ideal

[quasi socket]

shout, shredder frags, melee you are very comfortable with

[wanton dawn]

I had this on my successful run. Imagine taking wound

[tiny summit]

Fatshark making encounters to make it wanted

[wanton dawn]

But yeah, genuinely hard fight. had to grind it on vocal

Granted, I had like, 5 times the playtimes of the others ppl combined

Am still bad though

[slim rivet]

My Helbore mk I did a few good dmg but needs better stats

[wanton dawn]

I think melee vet is legit on this fight as well

But you really want mark

[quaint valve]

Is left worth a pickup as an upgrade? And if it is what blessings do we swap for Brutal Momentum?

[wanton dawn]

Also the run of shame can get a bit annoying after a while

like 5 min between each retry gets old

[silk nexus]

What’s the veteran build for the boss fight I can’t tell if it’s my team comp or me, but haven’t been able to do it on damnation yet; give me a ping

[quasi socket]

i think i have mentally pigeon holed myself into weapon specialist and refuse to change...

[hexed monolith]

just found out you can clear hard mode on uprising to get the skip

[wanton dawn]

Well, i did not I cleared the hardmode in damnation 10 minutes ago

[hexed monolith]

Gz didn't see that*

[quasi socket]

skip removes the plasteel tho, useful if you just want the xp farm tho

[wanton dawn]

The most surprising stuff is that no one had left after 2 hours !

[sterile phoenix]

Okay to upgrade or karking bricked?

[quaint valve]

Ok so i just got on, whats this skip mentioned?

[wanton dawn]

When you beat the hard mode you get a skip

[quasi socket]

search for the steam guide, been linked in this chat. its to skip straight to bosses

[quaint valve]

Whats the purpose of the skip, just to go to boss and save time?

[quasi socket]

yeah

[quaint valve]

i see

[wanton dawn]

It takes 5-10 minutes to get to the boss

[quasi socket]

so potential efficient xp farm if trying to min/max level a new character

[wanton dawn]

(taking loading time and other into account)

[quaint valve]

I dont think its fully bricked. Still workable, but the new shovels are better with the new special ablity. I would probably just eat this shovel for the T4 Uncanny Stike

If you really want to keep it, swap 1.5 stam and the decimator and it should work ok

[wanton dawn]

That being said, I think the boss fight is relatively predictible.

Give it a bit of time and ppl will start to figure out the strats

[slim rivet]

is the current recon las good to get from melk or a hard pass?

[quaint valve]

recon las is underpowered right now, but if you have extra currency its ok to grab a good one for future possible buffs

[sterile phoenix]

I have a T4 decimator I can slap on it

[slim rivet]

good to know
might wait for another good Helbore Mk1 with better stats than my current one
or a Kantrel Ia

[quaint valve]

that'll do, till you get a better mk3/7 shovel

[sick marsh]

I really want to love other veteran weapons, but I always end up back at the mk IV assault chainsword and kantrael lasgun, just because they're just so god damned good.

[sterile phoenix]

What do I swap with stamina?

[quasi socket]

honestly, i prefer weapons i enjoy/am comfortable with over the meta. some things just click for me, then theres the plasma gun

[quaint valve]

That shovel is mostly hoardclear, but flak/unarmored/maniac damage should work. Just depends on what you tend to bonk

[sick marsh]

honestly I just enjoy them too. I'm just more comfortable with boring.

[wanton dawn]

I have to say though, finally a insignia worth putting on

[quaint valve]

I mean if its fun for you, just go for it

[wanton dawn]

that was lacking

[quaint valve]

How do you activate secret hard mode?

[sick marsh]

the kantrael variants, bare in mind I use both a mk IV and XII for a bit of variety, are just nice. nothing else to it. though tbh the overkill ROF on the mk IV is always fun.

[wanton dawn]

You need to ring some bell in a specific order. There is a steam guide floating around

[quasi socket]

im a new chainsword and clumnus iag guy right now. i just pick up weapons with good stats if i see them at brunts shop to try out

[sick marsh]

I heard the new chainsword wasn't as good.

[quaint valve]

I have to use full auto mod to save my finger for mk4

[sick marsh]

I have an autoclicker.

[quaint valve]

Thanks!

[sick marsh]

that goes on whenever a hoard appears.

[wanton dawn]

Also, it is genuinely harder than what one might expect. You will probably want to bring talent that you do not use normally

I would not recommend attempting it with random for now

[quasi socket]

ive been doing ok with it. its not great on horde, but helps with ragers/maulers to drop their health before weapon swapping

[wanton dawn]

Ppl will learn

[quasi socket]

trying to work on a shovel/mk6 ps

[sick marsh]

I just like the versatility of the chainsword. I like that other weapons have specialties... but srsly I don't like not being able to deal with any particular enemy with either one of my weapons.

[wanton dawn]

Right now we are still on the release day and it is the hardest content so far

[sick marsh]

I just like everything working well enough against everything, I pair the lasgun and chainsword with ex stance and krak grenades.

[quasi socket]

seen some people do nutty stuff with the base shovel and its jab

[wanton dawn]

Imagine field kit being meta

[sick marsh]

meaning I'm well rounded in melee and ranged, as well as being ability focused against specials and heavy enemies.

[lofty lintel]

do you get the insignia if you do hardmode on easier difficulties

[wanton dawn]

I even tried taking covering fire and leave no one behind

IMAGINE DROPPING SURVIVALIST

[sick marsh]

I dislike having to rely on teammates for any 1 thing, because ya boi doesn't have friends who are active enough to babysit every single game of the day.

[quasi socket]

i bought the game for 3 people, they all hopped to lethal company

[wanton dawn]

Possible but you have little room for mistake

I said little ?

[lofty lintel]

nah u gotta be flawless

[wanton dawn]

Also some elite spawn might just drop you

[steep vault]

7 bells

[sick marsh]

ouch. I play with friends who love 40k, so play for the setting as well as the game's contents.

[steep vault]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310

this is the bell guide

[quaint valve]

Thanks, it got linked but i appreciate it!

[wanton dawn]

getting long spawn shotgunner from crusher might be a big problem

[steep vault]

I linked it

is this worth it

[wet moon]

imagine crutching survivalist

[steep vault]

I've been doing this way too long

[sick marsh]

no. stopping power is sorta important, and you want it higher.

mobility is the dump stat.

[steep vault]

alr

[sick marsh]

I found a mk IV with all stats at 79 or 80 but really SH'T ammo. I think it's workable, but it reloads a bit more is all.

I'd say mobility is 1st, and stability and ammo depend on weapon

stopping power and damage are ABSOLUTES no matter what the ranged weapon...

[wanton dawn]

Resource wise, I think vet frag might be better than frag bomb for duo

[serene sage]

for the secret mode, can your teammates ruin it for you?

[wanton dawn]

Having 4 frags out of ammo box is really good

I am not duo-ing it though

[slim rivet]

with that 60s 'nade replenish yes its good

[wanton dawn]

the 60s nade replenish might not be that good. Idk

[slim rivet]

depends like no 'nade pickups ig? or just a lucky slutch

[sick marsh]

I was reflecting on how in TF2 you have the trope of a Heavy class having a pocket medic or medic girlfriend as a means of carry. Feels a little like that with the Ogryn taking literally all the pain in some games.

[wanton dawn]

How long is the fight in practice ?

[sick marsh]

I have a pocket Ogryn in my friend for whenever I don't want to think about enemies and just want to spam left click.

[wanton dawn]

Still, without vet box ogryn will only have 1 frag

Maybe the strat is ogryn vet

[raw steppe]

They share blessings and that blessing is one that is very hard to get.

[steep vault]

you can't get rescued

so yea

if someone don't pull their weight you're not getting it

[sick marsh]

I hide behind my designated shield Ogryn when I can, just fed up of supression from massive waves of scab gunners I CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO FIND

[quasi socket]

are blessings shared across characters for matching weapon types?

[serene sage]

I mean in term of unlocking it

[raw steppe]

You should read the context before answering questions. In this case, hes a new player asking if he should get Power cycler4

[quasi socket]

F, now i gotta level my ogryn and psyker

[serene sage]

cause I've tried 4 times now and every time some randos would just run up and hit the bell

[steep vault]

tell them to don't hit the bell

like

[serene sage]

I did

[steep vault]

immediately

[raw steppe]

But the pc4 is on a mk3

[steep vault]

well they're asshats then

[serene sage]

im just unlucky ig

[wanton dawn]

Also, on this fight you cannot be weak in your melee game

[steep vault]

ig

[sick marsh]

something like that is really only realistically possible with 4 people in a discord VC

[serene sage]

i just fully swap to melee vet for the fight

[quasi socket]

the mk3 can be burned for pc4 and transfered to a mk6 if/when they get a serviceable one

[serene sage]

no point at all trying to go for ranged

[steep vault]

I always carry on rinda but they don't hit rodin at all

[slim rivet]

my current Helbore mk 1 stat still looking out for a higher dmg and power tho
got it from melk with the right blessings

[steep vault]

when I get a good chunk in they focus on rinda too

[serene sage]

it's a cool concept but i don't like how limited the builds you need to bring here are

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is good to get shield down from ranged but otherwise, idk

[steep vault]

I always tell them to leave rinda alone I have devil's claw

but they don't

[raw steppe]

Correct, but az answered that terribly 😂

[wanton dawn]

Bolter is probably screwed for this fight

[serene sage]

who in their right mind would bring exec stance to this and shoot the 5 elites that spwan

im trying to unlock hard mode

[wanton dawn]

Any weapon with low swap speed is screwed really

[serene sage]

hopefully things are harder there but i heard it only affects the boss fight and not corridor fights

[wanton dawn]

Do it in sedition

[serene sage]

exec stance stuff for example

[sick marsh]

My very... ammo short MK IV

[quasi socket]

can unlock skip in sedition and use in damnation im pretty sure

[wanton dawn]

Marksman focus is probably screwed as well

[quasi socket]

thats pretty nice

[sick marsh]

are the blessings right. I just sorta went with what I had on my XII

[wanton dawn]

Honestly focus target seems to be turbo meta on this fight. Considering you got bring it down just before

[slim rivet]

not bad with much crit ammo isn't gonna be a probs

[quasi socket]

i dont really ilaz, so im not 100%, but if its workin for you, no reason to really change it tbh

[sick marsh]

my XII which is literally identical in perks and blessings, plus base power and that.

[wanton dawn]

I took my sunder PS, it did well

[sick marsh]

I forget which one I have equipped at any given time... 😅

chainsword's a little low on finesse, but I still like it.

[wanton dawn]

I don't think you could make BM ps works as well on this one. Too much meaty target

[quasi socket]

can set them to 2 different talent sets and just click preset 1 or 2 to swap between

[drowsy kayak]

how impactful is Confirmed Kill for hybrid vets?

[unborn ridge]

whats that?

[drowsy kayak]

is it a must pick or can you live without it?

[sick marsh]

true. haven't thought about changing my build for it. I'm built around grenades and ranged, melee balance anyway so it's not terribly important.

[quasi socket]

i have a few different talent builds but sit in weap specialist most of the time, just change my ranged depending on what i wanna play with

[wanton dawn]

Oh for sure, but I always said that imo sunder is mostly a defensive option

[sick marsh]

yeah. I just sorta change it around randomly. went for what felt right, not a crime, but I just wanna be a help so whatever's meta is probably best.

[unborn ridge]

humm

and build?

[wanton dawn]

I am not into caxe anyway. I tried, not my mojo

[slim rivet]

did 3 profane rolls on Kantrael mg XII
dmg/stopping
61/80
72/73
80/70

sound bricked

[late hatch]

hmmm

[unborn ridge]

thought u were using wep specialist for that crit boos

[wanton dawn]

I will not get huge benefit from switching between caxe and ps anyway. Might as well use what I am confortable with

[unborn ridge]

yeah

[lofty lintel]

what guns do yall use with focus target

?

[sick marsh]

dunno if I'm allowed to post memes here but this made me laugh.

[lofty lintel]

true

[wanton dawn]

plasma is really easy to build with middle

[lofty lintel]

ogryns and vets 🤝

[sick marsh]

just about how much more wholesome veteran-Ogryn interactions are over the psyker and zealot

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is probably the most polyvalent vet gun talent-wise

[slim rivet]

just got out of a run with full vet team... we didn't last long

[lofty lintel]

would shotgun work with focus target

[sick marsh]

all vets isn't sustainable

[unborn ridge]

holy but u like did 100% crit on the video

[unborn ridge]

here

[sick marsh]

I got a 3 shield bullwark Ogryn, and me as a vet game yesterday. 2 of them were screaming PROTEST THE LITTL'UN

[unborn ridge]

really

i dont have crussian

weird

[quasi socket]

luv me ogryns, simple as

[wanton dawn]

It is still a gimmick build though

[sick marsh]

any Ogryn is pretty much an automatic asset. Ogryns are precious, protect the Ogryns.

[slim rivet]

4 vets yes but a whole army of vets? phyrric at best

[torpid fractal]

pls send help my teammates have zero sense of self preservation

[sick marsh]

I also find Ogryns with silly cosmetics SO much more loveable. there is nothing good about a serious or edgy Ogryn.

[quasi socket]

i just want a true kriegsman cosmetic set with filter and everything

[sick marsh]

best I've seen is Yoga mum of death sporting leopard skin pants

[quasi socket]

for the true trench tool spirit

[lofty lintel]

what time does the cosmetic shop refresh tomorrow?

[sick marsh]

in like 8.5 hours from now

[unborn ridge]

yeah but crussian seems good

[sick marsh]

usually it's 10:30 or so for me.

it's 2 in the morning now for me.

[lofty lintel]

ah

awesome

its gonna be refreshed when i wake up

[sick marsh]

not terribly long. so early in the morning for you.

[drowsy kayak]

would it be worth it trading out the 2 points for Confirmed Kill for Close Quarters Killzone and Duck and Dive for a hybrid vet?

tight on points is all

[umbral scaffold]

any notes to share how you did it?

[wanton dawn]

You can forgo ck if you take target down

[drowsy kayak]

My bottom of the tree looks like this- ye I do have target down

[wanton dawn]

And have out for blood

[drowsy kayak]

yep out for blood too

[drowsy kayak]

I just didn't know how much of an impact trading that out would make in the build over all but if it's negligable I'll go for better sustain in a different area and more damage then

[unborn ridge]

bro how is crucian roulete 80% plus

[wanton dawn]

Target down and ck fill the same niche. If you take out of blood you might has well remove one

[unborn ridge]

it just gives u a bit

how do u get that much

crit chance

[sick marsh]

I honestly find my boredom with the game has just given way to fashiontide and cosmetic interest. I'm happier when I play if I or certain team mates have cool and less common cosmetics on.

[lofty lintel]

salvageable?

[drowsy kayak]

fair nuff, yeah I'll move those 2 points then

[wanton dawn]

I think revolver crit base was removed

[umbral scaffold]

Can you be suppressed using the plasma gun?

and by that I mean does it worsen my aim

[south meadow]

What are we thinking about the MK III shovel lads? Melkypoo actually got me a decent one with decimator and flak/unyielding

Considering switching out a blessing for Thrust to whack one thing hard

and maybe unyielding to maniac?

God I love the nerds on here yall know everything

cheers lad

[torpid fractal]

what enemy type do the twins count as? 🤔

[quasi socket]

yes

[scenic bronze]

I don't use auto guns, this worth picking up from melk to have in the bank ?

[quasi socket]

dumdum and useful

[raw steppe]

Not really worth spending melk bucks

[bold sierra]

would be good if it had better perks

something like flak & weakspot

alas, sprint efficiency

[quick moth]

Okay I'm gonna grind out a damn power sword and hope for power cycler 3+. Wish me luck. What's the dump stat for PS?

[bold sierra]

mobility afaik

[quick moth]

Makes sense

[quasi socket]

mobility always feels like a dumpstat tbh

[quick moth]

little less so with weapon specialist

[bold sierra]

true but still

PS is a cleave weapon and every stat it has except for mobility is really important for cleaving targets

[fresh saddle]

flak, with some carapace afaik

[bold sierra]

Yeah the melee twin has carapace

[quick moth]

Yeah true. I'd say 65%+ everything sans mobility is what I'm aiming for, but I gotta grind out the damn blessings too lol

[vapid osprey]

Does anyone have a link to a "meta" Focus Target build or a streamer that would have one available? I'm a Zealot main, but my buddy is starting to get more into Darktide and wants an actual build instead of "node looks cool so I took it"

[quick moth]

Sure one sec

[bold sierra]

reject focus target

embrace weapons specialist

[quasi socket]

chocob has a bunch linked in their bet videos

[bold sierra]

Shovel my beloved

[quasi socket]

**vet

[quick moth]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

I use this build all the time and it works great for aur damn. You can use a revolver instead of the plasma - I do.

[long shadow]

Is this good I don't really understand stats for weapons

[celest vine]

What do we think of the killzone perk

[vapid osprey]

Cheers, thank you friend

[bold sierra]

Perks could be better

but yes

[celest vine]

+15% damage when no enemies are within 8 meters

[bold sierra]

hard to capitalize on

given

y'know

horde shooter

[long shadow]

What are some good perks?

[celest vine]

I mean if if works when catch a breath is active

8 meters is remarkably short range in this game

[bold sierra]

flak, ranged weak spot, crit rate, unyielding, critical hit damage, maniac damage

[long shadow]

Thanks for the assist

[terse idol]

Critical hit damage? Hmmm

[bold sierra]

mmm crits

[celest vine]

Crit chance is slightly better

Good with headhunter

[bold sierra]

[raw steppe]

Heres mine: #veteran-class message

Replace twin grenade with field improv

Use agri or colum brauto

And you're good to go!

I'm not a streamer but ive beaten aurics and maels pretty easily with it

[bold sierra]

Agripinaa autogun my beloved

[vapid osprey]

Thank you guys, I appreciate all the suggestions! I'll show these to him and see what he likes

[raw steppe]

The nice part is brauto doesnt need to headshot

Most other vet builds do

[bold sierra]

I prefer the agri infantry auto

[celest vine]

MG1A can get away with bodyshotting

Its pretty good at it actually

[raw steppe]

Colum has a 2x multi so you really wanna hs

Or crit

[coarse tide]

worth swapping?

[celest vine]

It also doesnt have that weird damage ramp up at range thing

[bold sierra]

higher stopping power means instantly yes

although getting better blessings is a prio

[celest vine]

Its not like the MG12 or MG4 where it deals bonus damage the farther away the target is

[bold sierra]

Dumdum & Deathspitter are great on infantry autos

would prefer that

this is my goal for my columnus personally

[coarse tide]

RNGods wont let me get dumdum

[celest vine]

I got an alright graia

[unborn ridge]

What is 5 revolver? sorry for asking too much. are u talking about the crit stat on it?

[rancid tinsel]

the roll isnt the greast, but do you think its worth running with crit damage? or am I better off with flak/elites since my melee is for ogryns

[umbral scaffold]

I hate the fact that somehow even though veteran is my most neglected class

It feels the most powerful with stuff I'm just having fun with

[livid monolith]

crit damage is never worth it

[umbral scaffold]

There is no reason I should be carrying entire Auric Maelstroms with a plasma gun and power sword

How the fuck does this make me feel like a god

[muted prairie]

mmmmmmmmmm plsma gun go vvvBOOM vvvBOOM ehhehehe

[crisp bronze]

I would replace crit damage for crit chance at least. Shame you don't have crucian roulette but I suppose point blank works? Never tried it myself.

[rancid tinsel]

it works with the weapon specialist build Ive been running around with, I have a few crit chance nodes plus the left hand deadshot, so I think its pretty high, but I have no idea how I can tell if a shot is a crit or not

[late hatch]

new laspistol feels good

[brazen bay]

quick question have not beaten yet but is there any thing to doing the new mission besides the charms?

more mats or better rolls?

[devout atlas]

I wanna build this kinda silly with thunderous+bloodletter, should I keep cara and grab unyielding for more boss DPS?

[late hatch]

afaik its just the trophy

[scenic bronze]

3 trophies and 300 plasteel each time for the hell of it

[late hatch]

it gets a bit spicy. my tips would be bring a preacher with corruption cleansing, bring corruption res and stam regen on curios, dont bring extra wounds

[quasi socket]

could do block eff too for the melee boss if no ogryn tank

[lunar scaffold]

You can skip the bells ringing and get the achievement directly from beating the HC mode Damnation boss if someone in your party already had the bells done.

[brisk sapphire]

Gotta be pretty unlikely to join at the boss after the bells have been rung

Do you even need to be on damnation to do hard mode

[jade notch]

Oh cool, so just one of the Strike Team needs to have rung the bells correctly?

[grave wadi]

KNOW THE GLORY VARLETS

[gritty dock]

I have a question which defense is better.
Which one would you choose if you could only choose one of them?

• Exhilarating Takedown
  Replenish 15% Toughness and gain +10% Toughness Damage Reduction for 8s on Ranged Weakspot Kill. Stacks 3 times.
• Confirmed Kill
  Replenish 10% Toughness on Elite or Specialist Enemy Kill, and a further 20% Toughness over 10s.
• Tunnel Vision
  +2.5% Toughness Replenishment for each stack of Focus.

I also don't know how Tunnel Vision works, if someone could explain.
I play with a rapid-firing Columnus and rarely use melee weapons.

[idle carbon]

tunnel vision straight boosts all forms of toughness regeneration you get

[serene sage]

do you need everyone to hit the bell to teleport?

[idle carbon]

yes

[viscid marlin]

Alright who's intern pet cat fucked up the servers

[sudden sundial]

whats the deal with the new chainsword?

[empty creek]

different attack patterns

the activated heavy will always be an overhead though which makes landing good hits significantly easier than the other chainsword but that's a preference thing

[gray stone]

rq, can this be made bis?

or close to?

[lunar scaffold]

Yeah as long as they get the bells for teleportation at the start you can skip it

[lunar scaffold]

I love confirmed kill because on higher difficulties once you kill a few specials/elits you just get like 3-5 stacks of those regenning a lot of toughness constantly

Very good in mixed horde situations where you sometimes take a hit from the poxwalkers while you gun down some higher tier enemies

[flint garden]

also get close order drill before it

[lunar scaffold]

Yup, this little right side 2 points gives a lot of defensive utility for vet

[brazen bay]

Is it a bug something that my charms from beating the new missions are not in my inventory?

or did I miss something?

[jade notch]

Cool, I already did the Bells with a Strike Team (even if I didn't ring them myself) so hopefully any Strike Team I'm in will have it

[brazen bay]

Have yet to do the bell fight yet but have completed the new mission on heresey and damnation but didnt get my charms for some reason

[rain badger]

special mission is something else, going support vet helped a lot

[brazen bay]

^ this

shout is damn near neccary for this and a shield ogry helps a lot for tanking shit

[rain badger]

2 shieldgryns, shout vet, and psyker with shield was pretty nice, that was the random team that I won with

[flat furnace]

hey guys, question
what's the difference between the sapper shovels MK III and MK VII?
i'm forced to upgrade my loadout if i want to beat the new bosses

[brazen bay]

The attack pattern

[flat furnace]

also i wanted to know so i could try 'em out

[brazen bay]

I wanna say they mk vii has more horizontal swipes

but I am currrently on the chaxe band wagon because it shreds ogryns and bosses

the shovel is great for horde clearing though

[flat furnace]

I want to try the new shovel because I'm running a krieger cosplay lol

but now that you mention it, perhaps i'll give the chaxe a try

[keen wharf]

i get slight amusement out of being picked up by a Mutant just as a poxburster is about to jump on me but the mutant throws me out of harms way.

[brazen bay]

Muties have saved my life many times lol

[gritty mirage]

damn new hard modes no joke, the boss has hands

[brazen bay]

throwing me out of bomber fires and flamer fires

[gritty mirage]

those bombs on the ground murder

[brazen bay]

or getting me out of a corner I got my self stuck in against a horde

muties are are lowkey goat enemy

[gritty mirage]

muties can really depends

they are interesting wild card

[serene sage]

@slow spade you around?

[gritty mirage]

lets play roulette, toss you out of danger? toss you into daemonhost or sniper or burster or the cold void? we got that too

[brazen bay]

true I have also had them do the exact opposite and throw me in the arc of crushers hammer as he is swinging