veteran-class

[patent valley]

all we had to do is just remove smoke nades completely

[lofty lintel]

but it would have to be balanced around med stims and medpacks

so theyre not obsolete

im all for a grenade that lets out a random buffing gas

better yet you choose with a hotkey what buff you want

toughness regen, crit chance, cdr

[patent valley]

rmber, vets regen grenades

so that's an additional factor u gotta take into account

[lofty lintel]

yeah thats true

[patent valley]

healing is 100% out of question

a third healing option will likely lower the skill floor

we already got med stims, and med crates

[lofty lintel]

yeah i think it should be more like the buffs i mentioned before

[patent valley]

plus med stations

[astral blade]

Wait are there healing nades in the warhammer 40k universe

[patent valley]

not familiar with the universe, so idk, but with their tech, its definitely possible

[lofty lintel]

maybe give a random buff between toughness dmg reduction, crit chance, finesse dmg, reload speed

good versatile utility

[patent valley]

lower nade count to 2 as well

[lofty lintel]

and it doesnt interfere with the stimms

[patent valley]

maybe even to 1 by default

[lofty lintel]

since the buffs arent the same

[patent valley]

and only have it reach 2 with extra grenade buff

[lofty lintel]

yeah 1 grenade

yep

[patent valley]

sounds too versatile if not honestly

[lofty lintel]

then there would be all out support veterans out there with grenadier voice of command builds

[patent valley]

+double grenade buff?

that's stupid

[lofty lintel]

yeah

im just brainstorming

ANYTHING is better than the current smoke

[patent valley]

pretty much

personally i would just make it tear gas smoke

and have it suppress gunners for as long as they are in it

or even suppress some weaker monsters

[terse idol]

Honestly maybe if they put smoke in the middle

[patent valley]

huge combo potential vs a horde if u can have them stop in their tracks in the smoke bomb

[terse idol]

Shredder grenades right and krak left

Eh I dunno

A buff will make rhe smoke like a good pick

[lofty lintel]

maybe dude but it would have to be accompanied by a smoke buff

[terse idol]

But yeah, as it stands it's... kinda a meme

[left comet]

how do I go about getting the long bomb achievement?

[patent valley]

if smokes are put in the middle, i'd literally never pick shred/krak, depending on what's on the rightside

and only pick the one on the left

smokes will be untouched, forever

[lofty lintel]

if they wanna keep it lore accurate they could replace them for vortex grenades

used by space marines and the inquisition

[patent valley]

idk what it does, but it sounds cool

[lofty lintel]

well canonically its op

ill explain

[austere mica]

Vortex Grenades are so far above our pay grade we haven't heard of them

[lofty lintel]

it opens a hole to the warp and it destroys any troops caught in its vicinity

[patent valley]

anything space marines use is op

[lofty lintel]

lool so are bolters yet we still use them

so

youre right but we're already using weapons above our pay grade

[austere mica]

Vortex Grenades rip holes in realspace

[lofty lintel]

im thinking

[tardy plaza]

It's funny how one of the twins is comically weak and the other one is comically strong

[whole moon]

Tell that to our bolter 😛

[lofty lintel]

instead of destroying everybody in its area of effect, because it would be op

act like a magnet

like aurelions sol ability if anyones played league of legends

[austere mica]

also we have a human pattern bolter

[patent valley]

its nerfed by the devs lol

[lofty lintel]

or just your average black hole ability in any game

[patent valley]

no wait

[lofty lintel]

attract and maybe debuff? less armor or they do less damage

[upbeat loom]

yeah we have mark 1 baby bolter, space marines have mark 50 big boy bolters

[patent valley]

if we wanna go that route, just make smoke nades have the effect of tear gas

[lofty lintel]

less attack speed.. i dont know

[tardy plaza]

Space marines don't use our bolter, our bolter would be like a dillinger to them

[whole moon]

I thought the emoji was enough to show it was a joke. I will add (joke) in future just for you

[austere mica]

whar

[whole moon]

Jfc

[patent valley]

make smoke nades have the effect of tear gas, and have it suppress gunners and weaker enemies that enter the smoke

[lofty lintel]

yes that would be a good buff

[patent valley]

huge combo potential too

gather them, and unleash the ogrynheimer

[lofty lintel]

yeah good for setting up dps as well

[patent valley]

or flamer, or fire nades, anything with decent aoe

[lofty lintel]

throw it on a monstrosity or anything with a lot of hp

weaken it and go ham

[crisp bronze]

An Astartes pattern Bolt Pistol would be equivalent to a Bolt Rifle for us. Their Bolt Rifles would be heavy weapons. The Heavy or Twin Linked Bolters are humanly impossible to wield.

[lofty lintel]

the line of sight issue remains though

[patent valley]

ogryn weapon?

bolt rifle

[upbeat loom]

that'd be sick

[lofty lintel]

im all for that

ogryns need more love

[whole moon]

Just for reference, I was proved wrong when saying this. Humans and Ogryns can solo wield Astartes pattern Heavy Bolters. Precedent exists no matter how fucking nuts it sounds

[lofty lintel]

give the ogryn a meltagun

lol

[austere mica]

The funny thing is they would probably break any boltgun handed to them

[upbeat loom]

i want to see ogryn pattern bag of rocks as a ranged weapon thou

[patent valley]

was fun debating but i gotta go get lunch rn, later

[lofty lintel]

lunch?

damn its 2 am here

[patent valley]

im in asia

[lofty lintel]

ah

[patent valley]

12: 40pm

[whole moon]

Gunluggers in tabletop have access to Heavy Las and Heavy Bolters as standard. I thought they were too dumb for advanced weapons but exceptions exist

[lofty lintel]

makes sense

[patent valley]

i play with my buddies in na/eu servers tho

[lofty lintel]

yeah same the ping isnt that bad

[patent valley]

not much asians here that i play with

and the randos can be especially bad

like remember i mentioned plasma dudes shooting at single shooters?

[lofty lintel]

no one i know from my area play this game

pretty sad

[patent valley]

same

[placid portal]

Rip

[lofty lintel]

warhammer 40k itself is kind of obscure where i live

[crisp bronze]

I'm not surprised tbh. There are so many "Normal" people in the Imperium that some are bound to do exceptional things. Also weird wacky timey wimey 40k canon. The answer, as always, is "the warp did it".

[lofty lintel]

true

[placid portal]

Ogryn need bigger gun

[crisp bronze]

Alternatively you could also just not think to hard about how somethings work in 40k. As the loading screen says (insert quote about knowledge, curiousity, or having an open mind being bad).

[lofty lintel]

have an open mind and youll be fuel for the golden throne

right to the black ship you go

[placid portal]

[crisp bronze]

When you're having a blast playing Psyker and finish a mission.

But the whispers don't stop:

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[lofty lintel]

uh oh

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-astartes-3d-art-nope-gif-16794679

It's a mercy to not fell to possession

[crisp bronze]

Astartes is so cool. I should rewatch it sometime.

[lofty lintel]

yes the animator is amazing

[placid portal]

Gotta find ytub reaction videos to see them

[lofty lintel]

i dont really know what the weird psychic orbs are

[placid portal]

[lofty lintel]

but its warhammer 40k you can make up anything and it probably will be canon

[placid portal]

Got removed from youtube outright

[crisp bronze]

Trazyn the Infinite owns an air fryer.

[astral blade]

Ya know what darktide needs

A fragging medic class

[lofty lintel]

damn now youll see trazyn and his air fryer in the next space marine game

[lofty lintel]

ehh

sounds cool but its a good concept for the wrong game

[serene bough]

What better way to aid the wounded than with summary execution?

[lofty lintel]

coherency, med packs, med stims, voice of command, etc.

everyone is a medic in some type of fashion

[delicate moat]

I am the medic class, i stabby stabby the martyrdom zealot with the funny green stick

[lofty lintel]

chorus, toughness dmg reduction in coherency

[astral blade]

Let a man dream

[lofty lintel]

it would be cool combat medics exist after all they just dont really fit in the game sadly

[serene bough]

I would like ogryn medic personally

Healing rocks for everyone

[astral blade]

[serene bough]

Its ok

You can still dream

[cerulean linden]

Just played with three vets and their lizard brain reaction was to shoot poxbursters, killing two of themselves in the process.

[lofty lintel]

that would be funny

and plausible

just convince an ogryn these huge rocks have healing properties and theyll only work if you throw them with full force at people

step 2 get popcorn

[serene sage]

be me
carried a team to the end of Sycorax
top damage
clutch revived 2 of them
got kicked immediately after

[lofty lintel]

wow

that sucks

[serene sage]

oh yeah and I scanned 9/12 nodes at the end

[iron marten]

pls tell me you at least got the rewards

[serene sage]

nah lol thopugh idc tbh

[iron marten]

bruh

[serene sage]

the only thing I said in game is guys can we slow we have horde behind

[lofty lintel]

if it makes you feel any better i got the out of memory crash bug as i was running to the raptor in an auric maelstrom

[serene sage]

and one guy was like keep up

[crisp bronze]

Vermintide had the "Sister of the Thorn" subclass for Kerillian which gave some sort of healing passive if I remember right? It's been a while. But large ocean creature has had healing between players before.

[lofty lintel]

the thing with healing in the class' kits is it makes medpacks and med stimms obsolete

[delicate moat]

it turns out, dying can teleport you to a further location in the map-

[lofty lintel]

so theres a problem with that

[crude ermine]

Hee shoul try keeeping up good relationship with thee father of they'res

[tiny summit]

ok so what do I change?

[lofty lintel]

my only father is the beneficient emperor

[lofty lintel]

sunder for brutal momentum and id say crit chance for flak/maniac/carapace

[south garnet]

sunder to brutal momentum crit chance to unyielding imo

[crude ermine]

I'd go Maniac instead of weak spot damage

Or Crit chance

[lofty lintel]

the weakspot dmg is fine

[south garnet]

yea weakspot is fine, it's consistent and pairs well with the push attack niche

[lofty lintel]

so is crit chance but the weakspot dmg fits the PS6 better imo

[lofty lintel]

yeahh

[crude ermine]

I see

[tiny summit]

any special behavior with sunder or just BM invalidate?

[lofty lintel]

no not really its just a BM gap honestly

more and consistent dps

[tiny summit]

lame. pc4 doesnt carry for push attacks?

[lofty lintel]

good question, i actually dont remember at all

test at psykhanium

[crisp bronze]

Just to correct myself. It was Kerillian's Waystalker subclass with the healing passive. It gave Kerillian 3 hp every 10 seconds when below half hp. It also needed an upgrade to affect allies. So not super busted. But yeah the Zealots Corruption heal aura is pretty good already. We don't need anything like that in Darktide. Wouldn't fit in my opinion.

[lofty lintel]

i agree

[tiny summit]

nvm

[placid portal]

Lol

[tiny summit]

Im dumb, it just times out before I can get another push attack

[placid portal]

[lofty lintel]

lul

[patent valley]

it times out unless the push atk is your first action after activation

its not that it ran out of duration, it just literally deactivates

so either u push attack on activation, or u dont

[stoic mantle]

not too shabby

Hadron is gonna fuck me isnt she

+25% unyielding off the bat, hopes are high

[serene sage]

I personally asked her to be nice

good luck

[stoic mantle]

Ay yo

[serene sage]

pretty much godroll huh

[stoic mantle]

indeed

The omnissiah blesses me this day

[crisp bronze]

I don't know if it would make the difference but my Plasma is at 79% Damage and 78% Stopping Power and is 40 or 50 damage away from oneshotting Flamers without Longshot and it makes me mildy annoyed

[lofty lintel]

No. Way.

[stoic mantle]

Way.

[paper brook]

Is anyone else getting a backend error when they try to start the game?

[serene sage]

photoshop

[crude ermine]

Oh fr?

On god?

Just like that?

[serene sage]

paid actor

[lofty lintel]

Thats all your luck for the rest of the ywar

Year

[serene sage]

obviously

[lofty lintel]

From now on all your weapons are cursed and bound to be bricked by hadron

[midnight mortar]

It happens every now and then. Just keep trying to log in and you will eventually.

[serene sage]

Midas is an FS paid actor trying to gaslight the server into believing crafting is alright

[stoic mantle]

I'm pretty much set aside from my ogryn

[serene sage]

I am on to you, Midas

[crude ermine]

Guess yee got the

MIDAS touch

[serene sage]

banned

[crude ermine]

You can't silence me

[lofty lintel]

I have a mania with min maxing as many weapons as i can on veteran its a bad habit

[stoic mantle]

My zealot has a really good evis, hammer, and revolver. My psyker has a great sword and voidstrike. And now my vet is set.

I just need good curios

[lofty lintel]

My zealot has a good knife, hsword, dclaw 4, crusher revolver and autopistol

My ogryn has a good stubber, kickback bully club and cleaver and then my veteran has everything

Im also set id say

[stoic mantle]

I don't give my ogryn the love he deserves

[lofty lintel]

Well not really my psyker needs attention really bad

Im neglecting that class istg

I just cant like it

I have a very scuffed purgatus and dueling sword thats all LOL

[crude ermine]

Best I got on me psyker is a Deimos force sword and a voidstrike, I forgot thee blessings so I'll check ra

Ra

Rq

[stoic mantle]

Duelling sword is bae

I'm really sad the duelling sword isn't on Zealot as well

[crisp bronze]

Still doesn't compare to the magnificent shovel. After using the new Mk 7 I have become part of Shovel gang.

[crude ermine]

I forgot to say what I had

My Deimos sword has deflector and uncanny

My voidstrike warp nexus and surge

[hollow shard]

Any recommendations for a Veteran levelling build?

[placid portal]

Slap 3 exp curio

[flint garden]

grab the toughness regen nodes at the top, grab survivalist, grenade regen every 60 seconds, voice of command pretty much

[placid portal]

done

[agile plaza]

is it just me or is the veteran class kinda dookie

[keen wharf]

it was so close to being perfect.

[flint garden]

just you

[prime rose]

im playing as a veteran first time so what should i do

[desert hawk]

still functional af

[desert hawk]

shoot stuff

[flint garden]

purge the heretics

[desert hawk]

but ideally specials and gunners.

then melee hordes down

[prime rose]

my ccharacter is nammed Stubbocks and that was though the randomizer i dind't mean to but it's fummt

well stubbock

[crude ermine]

And be sure to cycle between melee and ranged depending on the situation

[keen wharf]

the damage vs monstrocities and unyielding is at least going to be insane.

[prime rose]

stubbock is a funny name

[whole moon]

Dunno if you use em but the Creature_Spawner mod will let you spawn bosses into Psych

[prime rose]

what guns are auto?

[fading grove]

Get raking fire

[vernal harbor]

I got thrown a las level 1 and got so use to lasguns that auto guns feel wrong to me

why shoot many bullet when one bullet just as good

That being said, never see the burst fire vraks used ever, it feels very comfy in my hands but wondered if automatics just give more bang for buck

[hallow moat]

Man why yall ain’t tell me the infantry lasgun was so good

@keen wharf send me that build big dawg

[keen wharf]

i dont run any mods so you'll have to deal with 3 pictures.

[keen wharf]

i tried that but there's a lack of enemies facing the other way unless you're flanking but if you're alone, well the blessing becomes useless.

[gleaming turtle]

Anyone know what might have caused this? I am posting this here and in #zealot-class because we can both use the bolter.

[serene sage]

sorry im stupid but causing what, this seems like normal gameplay to me?

[gleaming turtle]

His fire rate.

[median moss]

Fury of the Faithful increases your attack speed. This is normal.

[hollow ibex]

i think i used up all my hadron luck for the next 100 hours of gameplay with this

[versed merlin]

@crude wind o shit just realized thats actually you lmao. found your yt channel by complete accident and loved the video i watched. then i subscribed and after seeing this message realized its yours lol

#1158835044006232215 message

[topaz lance]

What build are you running with this?

[dusk idol]

recon lasguns, infantry autoguns, bolter (technically)

what else

braced autoguns

shredder autopistol

think that might be everything

[real mantle]

I can't seem to get the long bomb penance done.

Shredder frags don't do it?

[dusk idol]

they should

I got mine with old frag though

[real mantle]

I followed a guide on steam and yet no enemy was close enough for 5 enemies dead

[hollow ibex]

oh wait this is vet chat... it's for my gunker actually

[gusty bison]

Pew pew pew pew

[topaz lance]

ah haha ok

[hollow ibex]

infernus prob isn't the optimal blessing but i was just looking for anything usable

[gusty bison]

Its not that bad on gunker

Vet wants ghost instead prolly

[grizzled pebble]

Why my shovel have only 5 dodges now?

[near sable]

the last one was stolen

[unreal bone]

This is gonna sound really really stupid but hear me out peeps

Which of these 2 plasma guns I'm about to post is better.

One has better blessings one has better stats.

[stoic patrol]

Anyone have any tips for the On Overwatch penance? Other than just get good

[gusty bison]

Dont stand in the back. Good way to eat a random attack from a blind spot

Use a ranged weapon with a fast swap speed. Like revolver or shotgun

That lets you engage ranged threats quickly without too much vulnerability window

Run stamina curios. They give u more blocks and sprint duration which help a lot. Tou and health curios are useless here

[stoic patrol]

Thanks

[gusty bison]

And run a melee weapon ur most comfy witj

Doesnt need to be the highest damaging. I got mine on the Shovel

[sharp ember]

no health damage, right? you can soak 1 melee hit at full toughness

[gusty bison]

And lastly focus on ur fundamentals

Oh and run shout

[unreal bone]

Just play with a Bulgryn player.

[gusty bison]

If u do get hit in melee, use shout immediately to get back to max tou

[stoic patrol]

Oh so toughness damage doesn’t count?

[sharp ember]

nope

but dont trust toughness overheal, sometimes you take chip damage anyway

while having it

[stoic patrol]

Thats a little more forgiving than I was expecting then

[gusty bison]

Yep

U get 1 free hit basically

[buoyant matrix]

whats better? idk if less finesse and more dmg is better or more finesse and less dmg

[gusty bison]

Oh and watch out for fire, dogs and muties. All of those can instantly end ur run if u mess up

[versed merlin]

wait isnt on overwatch the one that you have to complete a mission as a vet without taking melee damage?

[gusty bison]

Yes

[stoic patrol]

On malice

[gusty bison]

Melee health damage. But ye

[stoic patrol]

Yeah

[versed merlin]

oh melee health??

[gusty bison]

Malice is very comfy for it

Once u get the hang of things

[versed merlin]

thought it was no melee damage at all

well, maybe i can try to get that penance then

[gusty bison]

Nah toughness damage doesnt count.

So u get a free hit

[stoic patrol]

Yeah malice isn’t bad but even on it im still getting hit sometimes so I guess just practice

[sharp ember]

if everything still dies in the same amount of hits, finesse is better

[gusty bison]

Oh and run weapon specialist keystone

With the toughness regen on swap

[buoyant matrix]

thought so because of the shove stab combo

[gusty bison]

That might just save u if u get caught with ur gun out

[unreal bone]

Am I crazy or like

does Rending not stack in the vet tree?

I have 2 10% rending perks

[gusty bison]

It does

[sharp ember]

including the one from the keystone?

[gusty bison]

Oh the keystone one is a bit... weird.

I think it doesnt work on some weapons?

[unreal bone]

Yes right now I have Clink in their Armor and Rending Strikes

I was getting the same damage on a crusher

[sharp ember]

i heard it doesnt work correctly in the psykhanium

[unreal bone]

1740 headshot with clink on and clink off

[gusty bison]

This

[sharp ember]

that keystone subnode

[unreal bone]

That is so dumb

How do I math out another 20% rending on my current 1740 crit headshot

I'm almost able to 2 shot crushers.

[flint garden]

depends on ur current pen

[unreal bone]

The pen on my gun?

[flint garden]

yeah

[unreal bone]

Mine doesn't have a pen stat

[gusty bison]

Boltet is 60% vs cara

[unreal bone]

So.. How do I do the math?

[gusty bison]

But crit damage partially ignores armor

[flint garden]

you go from 60% damage to 80% damage. so youre doing 33% more damage multiplicatively

[gusty bison]

No

Cos its a crit gun

And a lot of that crit damage ignores armor innately

So only the noncrit damage part benefits from rending

[flint garden]

so then youre doing 0-33% more damage

[gusty bison]

The best way to calculate is to take off rending strikes, get ur damage value X.

Then put on rending strikes, get ur damage value Y

Then your final damage value with 20% rending would be Y + (Y-X)

[versed merlin]

anyone knows when we're getting new cosmetics?

[trim hemlock]

What type of cosmetics?

Also, there is a Commodore's rotation tomorrow

[versed merlin]

shop cosmetics

commodore

oh

tomorrow? hell yeah

wait which tomorrow?

14th?

[trim hemlock]

Thursday.

#theorycrafting message

[versed merlin]

a okok

[trim hemlock]

You can find the items that will rotate in in the link above

Just scroll up a little for each class' set

[versed merlin]

BIG THAMK

well... they're not bad

just hit different i guess

[trim hemlock]

They don't strike my fancy

[versed merlin]

yeah...same

i like the ogryn one tho

[alpine pebble]

is it me or the bolter ADS animations is missing 3-5 frames

[abstract moth]

Oh that's going to be the new cosmetics? Pretty cool

[terse idol]

hhh, I still value blaze it higher than volatile

The left is bettah

[light brook]

Chainaxe on melee vet with plasma is legit

almost as much damage as a godrolled Mk IV devil's claw, significantly less safety

[rose bough]

has anyone messed with the new chainsword and axe yet?

the increased damage on the saw mode is quite amazing

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-gif-27048064

[desert isle]

anyone else having a issue with downloading the update?

for whatever reason download is just stuck at 0 B/s

anything else that isnt dt downloads at 100mb/s

no mods for me either

[umbral scaffold]

pain

[noble zinc]

Welcome to trappers without maniac damage

[umbral scaffold]

1% more

[noble zinc]

Ew don't take fire team

[umbral scaffold]

dont care didnt ask

[noble zinc]

Part of the problem

[umbral scaffold]

cry about it

[thick rose]

lmao its like talking to russia

everything they say, is actually what they are doing

[noble zinc]

Also you can just take deadshot and weakpoint dmg

[umbral scaffold]

wtf is deadshot

oh the crit

[noble zinc]

Aiming does more as long as you have stamina

[spark helm]

crit 4 stam yeh

[umbral scaffold]

u know the shot was a non crit right

[light brook]

they seem like low effort introductory options for beginners
me, I was born with a chain weapon
shaped by it
molded to it

[umbral scaffold]

and im running weakspot damage

[spark helm]

chainsword usually feels boring for me

but when it works it works

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[noble zinc]

It's better to try and kill em with a crit than sacrifice half your build just to hit a weakpoint oneshot

[umbral scaffold]

i can already kill them all with a crit

im running surgical

i dont need to lose stamina for no reason

[noble zinc]

Dodge slide exists. Don't need stam

[umbral scaffold]

for blocking you do

for pushing you do

[noble zinc]

I've rarely ever had to push or block on vet and it doesn't stop me from winning missions without dying

[umbral scaffold]

so u get carried

[light brook]

carried by overtuned high damage weapons

don't need to block when you can kill

[noble zinc]

Literally just chainsword lmao

[umbral scaffold]

me when i dodge slide spam against a group of ragers and they magically die

[light brook]

slow weapons need blocks and pushes to set up swings if you're not a zealot

[noble zinc]

Dodge slide back and shoot em.

Or use those double shredder nades you saved

[light brook]

smoke grenades life

the sheer value of turning a dangerous position in quickplay into a complete cakewalk by making all the shotgunners wander into your axe

[abstract moth]

So when the stamina ends the buff no longer applies?

[noble zinc]

Yup

[abstract moth]

You think people should perk up stamina on curious then if they use that perk? Or go for other advantages?

[trim hemlock]

Cold take - yes, they should

If they think it will benefit them

I take +3 stamina to capitalize on say, stamina replenishment upgrade from Focus Target! Keystone

[rose bough]

do remember that dropping stacked toughness can also leave you open to other breakpoints, specifically ones on yourself for enemy damage

its a tradeoff

off the top of my head, with the 50% damage reduction when toughness >75%, + shout, you can eat a burster without losing HP on your average full 3x toughness curio build (around 200 + shout for 250)

with a stamina curio, you'll lose HP because you can't eat the hit fully

[gaunt hinge]

i wonder if theres a mod that goes and color codes the weapon marks correctly

[versed merlin]

should i surrender this weapon to learn one of the blessings? which blessing should i learn first?

i got this as emperor reward

[gentle maple]

What do I change here (apart from getting Power Cycler 4)?

[trim hemlock]

Change Crit damage perk to something else and it should be alright.

[versed merlin]

giv me

[rose bough]

mercy killer, precog stinks

[raw steppe]

you can use it tbh

it's not bad rolled lol

decent stats

[hasty reef]

Hey guys has anyone properly tested the new shovel to my beloved the chainsword yet? I can get a good shovel from sire Melk but idk if its worth it

[crude wind]

Eyyy thanks man! Really appreciate that 🙂 I do it for the people and the love of the game so it means a lot when people get value from the work ❤️

[eternal depot]

best infantry lasgun?

[junior grail]

Question, for the Agri Revolver do yall prefer Crucian or Surgical?

[sharp ember]

you can think of it as a safer sidegrade to chainsword: slower horde clear, special spike attack is faster and safer than sawing and more effective vs carapace

[umbral scaffold]

any

[sharp ember]

a well-built shovel will 1shot muties if you spike them in the face

or in the body with maniac perk

or a power increasing blessing

[sharp ember]

if you can get at least 1 stack of surgical at max firerate, i would lean surgical. Not sure if that is the case

[versed merlin]

why?

[junior grail]

Im testing now, the buff appears if I control burst. About 0.5 seconds between each shot

[versed merlin]

ok im actually enjoying vraks for the first time after so much struggle playing with this gun. i still think its shit to an extent when compared to other ranged weapons, but im enjoying so far. havent tried this on auric yet, but been doing decent with this setup so far

[rose bough]

On dodge effects would be nicer if they lasted longer like the psyker's 6 seconds on rapiers

2s is very iffy

[versed merlin]

o shit

just realized its 2 seconds

[rose bough]

Lol

[versed merlin]

thought i read 5s lol

[sharp ember]

change what

[small echo]

Sorry discord keeps attaching wrong pic

[timid otter]

Low profile is detrimental

[thick kestrel]

only if you can't capitalise on it to take out priority targets.

at face value, yes it's greedy as it puts pressure on your team, but if you can leverage that oaisis of low agro to apply critical damage to key specials/massed gunners/elites then it's a reasonable pick.

it can 100% be a chaos lover move if you aren't able to use that window however

personally I'd recommend it more on a close range dakka build though rather than a headhunter.

[versed merlin]

the solely reason to run vraks is to one tap specials and ranged elites and since building marksmans focus helps reach breakpoints, stealth helps with both enough time to ads and keep those stacks

[sharp ember]

if you low profile on me i will simply add those heretics to my bodycount as well

even if you’re dumping crushers on me, that means they’re bunching up for a krak stack

[thick kestrel]

it's one of the guns which can more readily leverage executioner stance really

[timid otter]

Run it on maelstrom and i think you should be botted.

That talent has killed enough runs.

[muted knot]

The talent is fine it's the way people use it

[versed merlin]

i hate exec stance, that ultra zoom bothers me to a extent

[thick kestrel]

you're welcome to think that Wilmer, though I suspect there might be a bit of confirmation bais going on there... it's almost certainly more down to the player using it than the talent itself, if you've got a situation where just that will cause the team to crumple there's SIGNIFICANTLY more problematic things going on.

[muted knot]

I hate the screen effects tbh same with some of the stims

[thick kestrel]

fair

[timid otter]

Im pretty sure i usally check every build before the game starts

[versed merlin]

i wouldnt run this build on maelstrom as im not as good with this setup

but thats a skill issue argument, cant say anything about stealth. idc about it tbh

[timid otter]

The more inconsistences in the build the more likely it fails.

[thick kestrel]

I'm meaning more that "this mission failed because the veteran ran that talent" is... a very simple answer to a much more complex thing going on.

[timid otter]

Ye well it has happend

[small echo]

Improvement ideas?

[timid otter]

Low profile makes enemies spread out in a pattern they normally just dont do.

Because they chase veteran then stop chaseing the veteran suddenly.

[versed merlin]

tf is this btw

[versed merlin]

thats only for 10s and if they're using to run from elites/hordes instead of actually taking some weight from the team by wiping specials, then they're using it wrong

[zealous wyvern]

woah

is it out?!

[timid otter]

It leads to more likely surronds, other bad things.

[zealous wyvern]

is this out?

[trim hemlock]

It’s an upcoming secret assignment from Zola, no?

[zealous wyvern]

i hope its out soon

[versed merlin]

idk just saw a special assignment on my screen and i clicked it

[versed merlin]

plus if your team gets wiped out in 10s for the duration because of that, it might be a skill issue too

[timid otter]

Its not like the enemies will retag asap as the 10s are done

[versed merlin]

they do

not the same enemies

[timid otter]

Plus 10s within the context of the game is alot.

[versed merlin]

but random enemies will target the vet as soon as the 10s expire

[trim hemlock]

Funny how you get to choose a difficulty level for that assignment

[timid otter]

Its a game about movement, positioning.

Low profile screws up positioning for teammates.

[thick kestrel]

indeed, this is mostly why I personally like it a bit more on close range veteran builds with IAGs or BRautos, bit easier to do rapid dps dumps on key targets with rending and the like. for more concise shooting loadouts they're more... steady rythmn than burst? that 10 seconds is nice but you REALLY need to pump the value out of it quickly.

(or use it to do rapid revives)

[timid otter]

Theres also the infamous 2 monstrosities at the same time.

That one is however usally due to stealth in general rather then no profile

No profile will add horde enemies, elites to the equation.

In general using stealth to avoid boss aggro is a shitty thing to do ingame.

Unless the boss is actually going to kill the player using stealth.

[crude wind]

time to make a KNIFE VETERAN build, we are going full jank today gang

how bad could it be?

(very)

[thick kestrel]

indeed, but that's kind of the point, it's all down to player use and application. it's definitely a high risk pick on a build and it's kind of crappy if you don't take advantage of what it does for personal protection over everyone else.

but so is wasting medicae, scooping up ammo when you don't need it and turbo rushing through missions and ignoring coherency.

[whole moon]

damnit error 2001 first time thu, three boss fights in

[polar pagoda]

Using low profile with a power sword just very near and perpendicular to an ally, lets you cleave through a group of crushers uninterrupted and very quickly wipe them. Same with ragers. Dont other vets mostly do that?

[timid otter]

Imagine if players instead used proper tools to actually create their own space so that they can continue shooting elites, specials despite enemies being after them.

[polar pagoda]

Somehow vets that use infiltrate and power sword in my games (including me) always gets highest dps so i thought they were pretty reliable

[crude wind]

there are two types of people in this world, people who understand how to use stealth/low profile to the benefit of their whole team, and people who think stealth is irredeemably bad and will poo poo it at any chance

in my experience, 1 set of people understand the game better than the other set.

[timid otter]

Low profile is bad, stealth can be good.

[crude wind]

no, it isn't lol

[bright cliff]

you're missing the third type: the guy who thinks he's the first type but is entirely unhelpful during fights.

[crude wind]

true, I forgot him

[timid otter]

Stealth is more then enough time to do objectives, revives.

[versed merlin]

okay the boss fight in this shit was hard af

but that was mostly because we were all unprepared

[crude wind]

that's like the lowest use case for stealth. If you can't use stealth to set up massive clearing actions then you should probably pick something else

[timid otter]

I doubt i need stealth for massive clearings

Because im actually good at maintaining space to keep working under pressure

[crude wind]

all you are saying here, in a nutshell

is you don't like stealth gameplay, or you don't undersand how to play it

it's one of those two

because coming into a public chat and saying something, in your experience, is bad

when hundreds if not thousands of others disagree with you

is just you

[timid otter]

I havent said stealth is bad either way.

[crude wind]

no but you said low profile is bad

[timid otter]

Yeah and i do think so.

[crude wind]

low profile is what makes stealth good

[timid otter]

Then we have a pretty big disagreement.

Why do you think low profile makes stealth good?

[trail leaf]

coming into a public chat and saying something, in your experience, is bad
What the point of public chat if you can't do that

[crude wind]

because it's the only tool in the game that lets you manipulate aggro and control how enemies move, which when you spend some time learning, is really strong

you probably have some trauma left over from people using this badly

or in a way that gets team members killed

[timid otter]

Why would you want to controll how enemies move, aggro?

[whole moon]

Have you heard of a skill called Taunt?

[crude wind]

take flamers for example. if they are aggroed on you and you are in range, they will coat an area in fire. If you blink stealth they stop firing, great. low profile then gives you 10s to run around and kill without attention that flamer, and all the other specials that just spawned as part of the same wave

so with your ultimate you

• stopped fire
• got free kill windows on a bunch of specials

your team is safe

[gaunt hinge]

new patchie

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-orthus-offensive-now-live/89349

[polar pagoda]

One example for low profile use, using it lets ragers that are onto you switch targets to another player (who may also be being attacked by ragers). The funneled ragers can then be attacked and quickly killed by the low profile vet that they might not even reach your teammate

[versed merlin]

just got my insignia lesgo boys

[timid otter]

Or the enemy can be dodged, avoided till its killed.

[frank ether]

finally time for karnak twinks

[polar pagoda]

You help yourself and your teammate that way

[torn inlet]

Reviving people across the map is a lot easier with low profile

[frank ether]

bruh the amount of hate low profile gets

[torn inlet]

i like the shout but prefer it without the revive cd penalty

[crude wind]

it's fucking wild isn't it...

also, people forget about Raking Fire on IAGs

just a straight easy 40% damage boost

[polar pagoda]

I thought it'd get less hate than smoke grenades (which i also use lol)

[torn inlet]

and shredders

[crude wind]

for doing nothing

[torn inlet]

lolol

[balmy flume]

Oh wait new permanent mission?
Or temporary content?

[torn inlet]

i use smokes too

[quasi socket]

New mission out

[torn inlet]

i need to figure out how to use smokes optimally

[balmy flume]

Nice, gotta try at some point then

[frank ether]

Its kinda wild yea, I'd expect smoke to receive this kind of hate blocking vision and all

[half wigeon]

hey guys was wondering i made this :
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ad6a07d-ece0-4cdb-8665-b6b4a7ef5f72

[torn inlet]

definitely helps revives without cloak

[half wigeon]

is it okay ?

[crude wind]

I mean I don't use smokes because I feel they suffer in a meta where everything dies in milliseconds but when they eventually address the power creep in this game and fights last a bit longer I'll definitely revisit them

[frank ether]

me neither, I guess no one complains about smoke cause no one uses them

[torn inlet]

smokes let you bee line the right tree better too

[frank ether]

that one point isnt worth giving up a real grenade

[versed merlin]

i mean, its like, not complaining, but asking why?

[whole moon]

smoke is one of my most hated team skills, blinds your own gunners

[torn inlet]

its more than one point tbh

[timid otter]

The main thing really becomes that whatever low profile does can achieved by instead using proper spaceing, weapons to controll space.

[torn inlet]

gunners? we have psykers, knife zealots and ogryns

[versed merlin]

it isnt worse than ogryn players really

[torn inlet]

what gunners? I AM the gunner lol

dakka gryns don’t need to aim either

most engagements are like within 20-30 m

how blind can you really get

[whole moon]

by all means enjoy yourselves but you might wanna block my FS code then

[ivory rock]

Should I grab this?

[torn inlet]

looks nice

[frank ether]

nah

bad

[torn inlet]

69 tho

[frank ether]

bad

[torn inlet]

meme numbers

[versed merlin]

the 69 stopping power isnt as nice as we would like it to be

[torn inlet]

its only ordos

[frank ether]

bad stat bad perk bad blessing

[torn inlet]

unoess youre somehow spending melk bucks

[crude wind]

well, at level 1 yeah

[versed merlin]

perk can be useful, if you're running deadshot i think

[crude wind]

at level 4 ghost is p sweet

[frank ether]

I've yet to see a deadshot user run stamina perks

[near sable]

those people are savages

[elder fiber]

I think the only really bad use of smoke I've seen was somebody who would dump like their entire stock with every engagement

[near sable]

I put stamina regen on every curio

[frank ether]

and I talk with all the deadshot crackheads

[elder fiber]

so like corners would be covered with shit while specialists are running through them lol

[frank ether]

+3 stam curios are where its at for deadshot

[versed merlin]

isnt the best, but can be useful

[near sable]

refuse to use pure stam curios

i already put way too much of my feat selection into damage output

[eternal venture]

https://i.gyazo.com/5397198f7644b1be0fbc7b3163a17a4f.png

Well wowzers, thanks Grandma

[ivory rock]

Watching a plasma gun vet unloading ammo into the twins shields instead of using their power sword to melee

[near sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/369836244064272386/1108768132383920138/AAAAAA.gif

[near sable]

he has 25% unyielding and 20% monstrous damage

with 10 stacks of focus

[gaunt hinge]

oh great, load into new mission, boss doesnt spawn, everyone jumps off map

[frank ether]

unyielding is actually not terrible for vraks

[eternal venture]

P sure it needs +Maniac for a few breakpoints

[frank ether]

I'd still rather go flakiac yea

[balmy flume]

Well time to wait for the hot fix lol

[frank ether]

but if I rolled unyielding I'd be fine with it on vraks

[eternal venture]

Yeah, it needs +Maniac to oneshot Trappers, 2shot naked Ragers

I think

let's slap it on

[frank ether]

for vraks 7? probably

vraks 3 its joever since 3 burst

[ivory rock]

just had that bug too

Fatsharkmoment

[eternal venture]

Okay yeah, Vraks VII needs +25% to oneshot Trappers on headshot

with no buffs up

It doesn't get any other specific breakpoints though, afaik

before buffs of course

With just a couple stacks of Focus Fire, you 2shot Flamers and naked Ragers on headshot

[crude wind]

I actually have a deadshot weapon with +2 stamina XD

[eternal venture]

And you oneshot armored Ragers on headshot with tag buff

[crude wind]

and because deadshot with stamina cheats is ridiculous, it works really well 😛

[lofty lintel]

Stamina cheats?

[crude wind]

Duck and DIve/one of the keystone nodes

[frank ether]

which weapon is it thats so hungry for stam

[placid portal]

Target down

[lofty lintel]

Oh yeah

[placid portal]

really good shit imo

[crude wind]

IAG

[placid portal]

you can chain kill mark and maintain stamina for deadshot

even to the point you could even ditch duck dive imo

[crude wind]

weapon swap also has a stam cheat node

[placid portal]

if you take stam curios

[crude wind]

that is super easy to trigger

[frank ether]

is it worth it on iag over %25 maniac or flak though

[crude wind]

tbf it was my locked perk

[placid portal]

Ye, makes a few shots difference

[frank ether]

well locked

rip

[crude wind]

and the honest answer is i think the difference would be minimal

[frank ether]

I mean

to be fair

its better than

weakspot damage

[placid portal]

Yes

[frank ether]

or crit damage

[placid portal]

[crude wind]

because Deadshot = crit and crit = rending so

[frank ether]

you still get some use out of it

via deadshot

[crude wind]

well not rending but whatever crit hits bonus is

[placid portal]

even with weapoint you get like 10 or 20 damage

[crude wind]

psuedo rending

absolutely bullshit mechanic that needs to die a death

[placid portal]

5% crit bonus on passive is based

[frank ether]

I'm actually kinda

fuming

that marksman focus doesnt have any stamina synergy

[placid portal]

tru

focus stacks should give stamina every weakpoint kill scaling focus

[frank ether]

its the only keystone where its frustrating to like

invest in it

feels bad to invest in it

[placid portal]

agreed

[crude wind]

i wish the TR node was stamina instead

would be worth picking up then maybe

[placid portal]

tru

heal stamina every weakpoint kill so I can perma ads

heck I should have an assistant vet to inject me with blue Stims to recover my stamina

[frank ether]

They could add a little something in there

[crude wind]

but tbh when I take MF i just take camo and don't spend into it too much

better to have points to go deep into middle tree as well

for that sweet 10% rending node

[placid portal]

tbf focus side grade upgrades are mid and only camo is big enough

rest are meh

[frank ether]

the %10 rending should be passive

its already ranged only

[crude wind]

yeah, just getting camo for a bit of consistency. 15 stacks is really inconsistent, even when you're a great shot

i'd rather spend more of the match at 10 stacks than less at 15

[placid portal]

15 stacks don't make big differences imo

lucius only needs like 2 stacks for reaper 1 shot BP

[crude wind]

that's the other thing, it's very niche. certain weapons can get something from it but very few and far between

[frank ether]

I just run it on lucious for boss damage

thats it

[placid portal]

Better to use Focus target keystone

[frank ether]

Its actually superior

[placid portal]

more bang for buck

[frank ether]

if you dont mind some spot spam

[placid portal]

tbf you spot spam naturally

for me I do it bc I need to see

I cannot see a yellow gunner in the sand

[versed merlin]

same

[frank ether]

I was considering

I already do it this way for bolter

focus mark

[placid portal]

I hate how the enemy's attire blends so well in the ambience

[versed merlin]

just dont put a macro on your tag ping for the love of something

[frank ether]

since bolter takes a while to stabilize

plenty of time to line up headshots

and spot

[placid portal]

Still prefer Focus target

bc stamina for deadshot

[frank ether]

also that yes

[lofty lintel]

Fair

[frank ether]

bolter deadshot

tag crusher

dead crusher

[placid portal]

boltgun deadshot really do be nasty

[frank ether]

get big stamina/toughness return

[placid portal]

I think you can 4 tap crusher with surgical deadshot

but imo takes too much time vs magdump method which is 7 rounds

so really depends on every problem basis

[tiny summit]

Especially when there's a 10% rending in the middle tree that I've been running lol with marksmans w/ camo

[placid portal]

Marksmen should give rending too

why just finesse modifier

[tiny summit]

Reasons

Thanks fatshark for 1% reload per stack at max of 10% or 15% when there's a node at the top for 30% off elite kill which only just appear more at damn

[placid portal]

is it flat finesse bonus or % based

[placid portal]

Shhh don't give them ideas

[jade notch]

I just cheat and bring Rending Strikes instead of taking the MF Subnode that grants Rending at 10+ Stacks

I take Iron Will anyway, so it's just 2 extra Talent Points to get to Rending Strikes

[lofty lintel]

Yeah rending strikes is so good

[placid portal]

even with the 5% nerf

[barren cave]

is the special assignments button brand new

[placid portal]

it do be nice

It seems so

[lofty lintel]

Much more consistent than the subnode

[placid portal]

^^^

[tiny summit]

I have the toughness node for marksman. Actually dunno if I'm doing anything with it because I can't track how much toughness I replenish

[lofty lintel]

What guns do yall use with marksman focus/focus target?

[placid portal]

lucius gaming

[lofty lintel]

Im a helbore user personally

Yeah

[versed merlin]

ok so since low profile gave a pretty polemic discussion, im going to move from marksman to focus target and cover any necessary breakpoints with exec stance (i hate this ability, but ill manage to git gud on it). for vraks, which node should i pick here?

[placid portal]

Mk3 enthusiast?

[lofty lintel]

Such a fun weapon

[placid portal]

I am the mk3 gamer

[lofty lintel]

Any but mk2

[placid portal]

mk2 is fun

but not a fan of poor iron sights

[tiny summit]

Mk1 = just right

[placid portal]

mk3 irons are too good

[lofty lintel]

Mk1 is my favorite but ive been playing with the mk3 and im liking the change of pace

[tiny summit]

And has a proper bayonet

[lofty lintel]

Yeah mk1 is perfect imo

[placid portal]

Fair

Mk3 bayonet is defunct

[jade notch]

Marksman Focus:

• Kantrael Inf Lasguns
• Hellbores
• IAGs

Focus Target:

• Plasma Gun
• Boltgun

[lofty lintel]

I should give infantry lasguns a go

Havent gotten a good roll yet

[jade notch]

The MG Ia is what you want this current patch.

XII got superseded by it

[placid portal]

tbf

[lofty lintel]

I see

[placid portal]

Focus target works on alot of weapons

[lofty lintel]

I thought it was the mk12

[tiny summit]

1a and MGIV good. XII is fine but I don't like the fire rate

[placid portal]

infact I argue focus target is good for all ranged options

[eternal venture]

Helbores reach the same breakpoints with both Tag keystone and Marksman, and you only need a few stacks of each to oneshot almost anything

[placid portal]

Just too damn good as a bonus toughness and stamina recovery

[jade notch]

It used to be the XII was the best, but not since Patch... 13?

[lofty lintel]

I still see everybody talk about the mk12

[placid portal]

best part of Focus target is you always have at least 2 stacks

[eternal venture]

but Tag gives you and your team toughness + stam replenish, and a little extra damage if you take that talent too

[tiny summit]

They buffed the Ia to the point where there's only like a 40 dmg difference between Ia and XII.

[placid portal]

MG12 stilll makes BPs iirc

[eternal venture]

so it's better to just go Tag

[eternal venture]

[placid portal]

m1a still has some parts where it lags behind

[tiny summit]

They probably haven't tried a good Ia because it's fire rate will out dps the XII but if you think the chunkier more often 1 shots are better go for it. XII isn't bad. Ia just got better. Only 40 dmg difference

[jade notch]

^

[placid portal]

MG12 got damage buff too right?

[tiny summit]

No

[placid portal]

the buff was Kantrael lasgun wide no?

Doh

[tiny summit]

That or the Ia was just more substantial

[jade notch]

Yeah, but for what I use the Kantrael Lasguns for (Killing Shooter Squads, Elites and Specials), the Ia is more than up to the task.

I whip out the Mk 6 PS if I run into a Crusher, after dumping as many shots into it's face as I can.

Admittedly, this means I can't deal with Crusher Squads single-handedly. That's the "dump all of my Frag Grenades and panic" part of the run

[lofty lintel]

Makes sense

Ill give it a go

[placid portal]

ngl I feel frustrated using Infantry Lasguns, for some god forsaken reason I can't hit shit

what's worse is how the outline for the Sights are Yellow

[jade notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1182715985678045244/image.png?ex=6585b518&is=65734018&hm=ecf98e4e457d3a05cc0084d30c92a8c35a1330da5cfc0e1c680143f915fd2f94&

[placid portal]

Y'know what's also yellow?

[jade notch]

My MG Ia, for reference

I'd have swapped Carapace for Flak if I could, but both Blessings sucked so

[placid portal]

SCABS

FFS FS

why not deep green or even red

[nimble sentinel]

https://youtu.be/sCJc5cVK810?si=B0jQ0Tic54V37T7H it's murder time

[placid portal]

Funny how Melk's Auric Operator's get rekt

but a bunch of rejects can do this

[celest vine]

The MG12 does significantly more unyielding damage

Like to the point you can two shot reapers

[alpine pebble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/723636455817216060/1125179657969467433/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[jade notch]

To be fair, our PCs are the Rejects who didn't get filtered, so not exactly just any reject

[celest vine]

MG1A at best can 4 shot with crits, 5-6 shot on average

And that extra damage lets you one hit bodyshot scab shooters and hits a dreg gunner breakpoint

Its just slow

[placid portal]

Ah yes the "named" character Warhammer 40k character

[jade notch]

The man himself, John Darktide

[nimble sentinel]

darktide is a wonderful ludonarrative example on how one becomes a named character in the works of James Workshop

I'm not inmate 6942080085, I'm the mfin lasgun enthusiast

[tender pasture]

I see they got caption fella back

[ivory rock]

Darktiding

[dim citrus]

Whats the difference between the Muni MK3 and MK7 Sapper Shovels?

[alpine pebble]

A WHOLE PLASTEEL

[kind musk]

THE plasteel

[jade notch]

A crumb of Plasteel

[junior grail]

Question, are the Karnak Twins event over officially?

[alpine pebble]

stay back plastdeamon

[nimble sentinel]

wish me luck

[versed merlin]

gl

the final fight is very fun

[placid portal]

SOUP CAN

[versed merlin]

CANNED BEANS

[dim citrus]

This an alright shovel?

[placid portal]

nice

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

Hadron meme time

[ivory rock]

Who shmeat I gotta slurp to get sumn that aint close dmg as a blessing for this gun type smh

[placid portal]

Solution, Death Spitta

[dim citrus]

EH

Take a Swing I have never used before

[placid portal]

Can we fix it?

I dunno

[dim citrus]

It might be good with the special

Push + Special attack

[placid portal]

you could

[sharp ember]

the mk7 does have a good push attack

alternatively change both blessings and live with the perks

[placid portal]

Lov mk 3 bc it got that propa strikedown

though I'd say mk7 does have better hoarde clear combo

so I concede there

[sharp ember]

hmm, maybe you can try Take A Swing with the special

[placid portal]

3s is a big window

[dim citrus]

Let me check

I'll start with an unarmoured gunner

[sharp ember]

bro is gonna die

[placid portal]

[rigid belfry]

holy shit thanks for telling me

[placid portal]

Finally the true fight we've been waiting for

[ivory rock]

Finished new mission n emperor gave me a really dog ass helbore... but then I realized.... IT HAD SURGICAL 4 ON IT MWAHAHAHAH EARN BLESSING HERE I COME

[placid portal]

nice

[dim citrus]

Special Light without Push is 778
Special Light with Push is 921
Unarmoured Gunner

[gaunt hinge]

im out here tanking sword lady AND plasma man

and my team out here is doing the most mediocre damage known to man

im outdamaging them with fucking parry

[lost lake]

I wonder how ill do with a big iron on my hip. Guess I'll find out soon

[dim citrus]

Should I swap out damage to Infested Enemies with Armoured Enemies?

[sharp ember]

flak, yeah sure

[dim citrus]

Keep the 25% for maniacs?

[sharp ember]

definitely

[dim citrus]

Two shots normal maniacs
Three shots armoured ones
This is Damnation difficulty

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-brick-parry-gif-27597104

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-sad-emoji-getting-disintegrated-into-dust-denigrating-denigrating-face-emoji-meme-lol-gif-27508363

[dim citrus]

Push bonus doesn't help much

[south spindle]

New mission eh lads?

Anyone done it yet? Is good?

[rare bough]

ye jus did it

propper boss fight

[south spindle]

Ehh nice, been lookin forward to that

Will get some lunch down an have a ganders

[rare bough]

I think the best part is, toward the end of the level, you get a bunch of plasteel

lol

[south spindle]

Lmao, more en usual?

[rare bough]

Yeah its like, chests full of it

[iron marten]

you get like 275, in a mission that can take less than 20 minutes

[lost lake]

Ok now time for speed runs

[rare bough]

yup

[iron marten]

the boss fight was fun, the gimmick with the tox gas is cool

puts a real spin on the assassination missions

[south spindle]

Fuck yeah, lets get them upgrades

Wait hang on...

[rare bough]

Yeah I prefer this kind of end boss fight for assassination

[ivory rock]

Is no one queuin for regular stuff lol

[south spindle]

275 from Damnation?

[iron marten]

yep

[south spindle]

Fuck that then, ima stick to normal ones for farming

[iron marten]

you get a cool looking insignia though!!!

[rare bough]

The mission has plasteel throughout like normal, but you get MORE at the end

no spoilers, but the story that runs over the comms is cool too

[nimble sentinel]

ah, beans

guess imma run it on an easier dificulty until we get goated at it

[placid portal]

rip

[nimble sentinel]

at least I lived!

[placid portal]

The arena is cool

[nimble sentinel]

oh god I lived

[thick kestrel]

nothing wrong with a run or two at lower difficulty to get the vibe if you need it

[merry gale]

yeah as far as i can tell there's no substential rewards for the new mission, it's purely for the challenge

[oblique horizon]

I mean the bossfight is a fun challenge tbh

[nimble sentinel]

doesn't damnation have a different charm or whatever it was?

oh yeh it was fun

[merry gale]

it's a portrait

[nimble sentinel]

AND for being the last one down I get to be a live prisoner in the skill issue screen! 😄

8C

[placid portal]

[oblique horizon]

On the plus side of tough boss fight: You hear the full dope soundtrack

[gaunt hinge]

the boss fight is tough because im dicerolling random teammate damage

[versed merlin]

you get this insignia for completing the t5, but honestly i cant tell the difference between this one and the other one for completing on any difficulty

i loved that boss fight

even tough i got completed carried by the dmg

[nimble sentinel]

that one went better

"live fast, die young, leave behind a pretty corpse" they never told me whose it needed to be

[eternal depot]

honestly the bosses aren't that bad, its just the special adds that can screw you up if you don't pay attention

[nimble sentinel]

regretably I don't think my lasgun has the punch for the main event, phenomenal for elite and horde clearing but not bosses and there isn't a whole lot of chaff

[nimble sentinel]

lol, literally opposite opinions

[eternal depot]

that being said, the ranged dude is a pain if he spits the mines everywhere too much

[nimble sentinel]

it was nice and fun but sadly my lunch hour is only an hour, best of luck to all of y'all

[eternal depot]

wish we could shoot the mines instead of having to run in and out its range

[thick kestrel]

sometimes it's just the Vet's job to let the Ogryns and Zealots go ham and clear the field

"Oi bigman, those twins stole your Rations!"

"Ye Wot?" charge

[wanton dawn]

My job is to blame others fot my failures

[eternal depot]

yeah my build at the time is better dealt with trash mobs while I let the big bois handle the boss

[eternal depot]

the important words 'it is everyones fault but mine

[wanton dawn]

It is my fault for trusting you

[eternal depot]

that is true, it is your fault for trusting me to be good at this game

[halcyon summit]

Is there another update?

[nimble sentinel]

I'm still not taking a power sword no matter what Nurgle throws at me

[nimble sentinel]

mini mission to kill the twins

[thick kestrel]

naught wrong with a big metal axe :>

[halcyon summit]

has it just been dropped?

[nimble sentinel]

yarp

[halcyon summit]

ffs

[eternal depot]

ogryn with charge is so good in the boss twin fight

[nimble sentinel]

go kill em!

[halcyon summit]

gonna have to delay it