veteran-class

[cosmic portal]

it's the mechanics

[finite imp]

Then why crux your point on it

[cosmic portal]

and design philosophy

[finite imp]

Oh it's supposed to be casual

Then play casually

[south spindle]

Yep, Malice exists for casual players, or if you're feeling daring, Heresy

[cosmic portal]

again, the design philosophy behind the vet's keystones do not reflect those of the other classes

[finite imp]

Hence the word classes

[terse idol]

Hmm? I mean nobody forces anybody to play at damnation

[south spindle]

No, but everyone wants to to be part of the cool kids club, even if they're getting dragged through it kicking and screaming

[terse idol]

Hell half the conversation of balancing for high difficulty is because we enjoy the challenge

[finite imp]

Can I ask what is your goal exactly did you come here to vent? We are not devs

Even if we all changed sides and agreed with you nothing changes

[cosmic portal]

"they had their fun for the first year, time to fuck 'em". instead of bringing Vet down to the other classes' level, or elevating them, they just decided to shove it down to the bowels where try hards reside.

[south spindle]

In all seriousness though, mat rewards are why everyone wants to play Damn, which is fair enough, but Auric should not play higher than regular Damn' because thats how you get people in lobbies who are in no way ready for the difficulty spike

[terse idol]

Well I should ask what is that design?
I do think weapon spec is one if not the most unique keystone in the game

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-laughing-hysterically-crying-gif-21624342

Skill fucking issue

[terse idol]

I'm gonna say it, Focus target isn't try hard at all and is the most accessible talent in the game

[south spindle]

Vet is actually stronger in terms of capability than it ever was....

[cosmic portal]

originally to ask about Exhilirating Takedown and whether it was still bugged xD
then i whinged that Marksman's Focus is still nonsense, and here we are

[fossil basalt]

And it plays as a great all-rounder, with marksman as a DPS and tag as support

[south spindle]

Its just not easy mode anymore, boohoo

[cosmic portal]

no, it's sweaty tryhard mode now

[cosmic portal]

cos you don't need to do that with other classes

[finite imp]

You are always free to move onto another subject. Does this not just exhaust you with its futility

[south spindle]

No, its not that either, you actually have to play the game and pay attention to the mechanics now, its not tryhardy unless you deliberately make it so

[finite imp]

Then go play them

[cosmic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[south spindle]

Then stop whining

[finite imp]

Okay welcome to vet chat how can we help you

[terse idol]

Just dont play damnation friend :D

[cosmic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[versed merlin]

[south spindle]

"Other classes are easy to play, but im consistently gonna make it hard for myself because i want to beleive im better than i am"

[cosmic portal]

an injection of morphine please to end this misery

[south spindle]

Thats all im hearing

[versed merlin]

idk whats happening

but im just gonna say it

[finite imp]

Skill issue

[versed merlin]

skill issue

shit

someone was faster than me

[umbral garnet]

Skill issue

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[umbral garnet]

Who are we skill issuing

[versed merlin]

does it matter?

[sudden dome]

vet has one checklisty keystone the other two are literally on command

[umbral garnet]

No, not really.

Skill issue.

[finite imp]

Bro plays vet who has VOC and says too hard

Bruh

[terse idol]

I mean shit

[umbral garnet]

Oh yikes, bad take.

[terse idol]

Infiltrate is easier to use than zealot stealth

Because of low profile

🥹

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-club-penguin-club-penguin-dance-skill-issue-gif-24610458

[fossil basalt]

Infiltrate is the big brain take of vets lol

[finite imp]

Room temp IQ skill

But the others are single digit

[fossil basalt]

Use it well and it's gamechanging, use it bad and you gut a run

[umbral garnet]

Bro infiltrate is awesome if you wanna murder Crushers from behind.

[finite imp]

I just dodge left when they attack

[upper yacht]

Just go infiltrate and focus target if you're bad it's brain dead. Some of the breeziest auric stgs I've done.

[finite imp]

Done

[terse idol]

VOC is a one use instant ability that gives you toughness refill +50 with a stagger, Marksmenship turns you into a point and click adventure

Infiltrate let's you drop hordes on your friends

[umbral garnet]

ELLO THERE, KNOIFE TO MEET YA

[terse idol]

😌

[finite imp]

KNOIFE

[versed merlin]

literally markus kruber

[finite imp]

Mod to replace shout lines with kruber when

[fossil basalt]

WE'RE THE TERTIUM FIVE!

[umbral garnet]

I really enjoy the knife gameplay.

[finite imp]

Based knife enjoyer

[terse idol]

I just dont think Vet is balanced for sweaty people at all

[rugged goblet]

Maybe I will finally try the reconlas magdump into horde and see how my MF stacks fly up

[terse idol]

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/britney-dancing-knives-knife-gif-5659179589831978323

[umbral garnet]

Heavy attack, punch, attack

Bread and butter.

Call that bitch the butter knife with how smooth I slice through them heretics.

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-dance-gif-25381375

This is what knife players look like

[umbral garnet]

Groovy as fuck? Yes.

[fossil basalt]

It's true, my character does get funky with it

[terse idol]

But Mox you literally came kntl the channel where people theory craft about breakpoints and how the game plays I just dunno what you're wanting to accomplish

[finite imp]

Knife players listen to death grips mashups

Bro tried to fight math

I feel the struggle

Math always wins

[terse idol]

TAK YON

[fossil basalt]

We all want to fight math

But math got hands

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-mcride-gif-20992854

[finite imp]

WHY CANT I SHOOT THROUGH THE WAAAAAAL

ZITGOESZITGOESZITGOEZ

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/itgoesitgoes-gif-27490960

[finite imp]

YUH

[umbral garnet]

Lads, help a man will ya

[finite imp]

Sup

[umbral garnet]

This.

This feels like a fun malice weapon

The base stats are so mid.

[finite imp]

Flechette and scattershot

Gg

[fossil basalt]

Marksman on an Ia or a IV lasgun?

Having a hard time not using weapon specialist tbh

[umbral garnet]

Sheee, I gotchu

[umbral garnet]

Weapon Specialist my beloved

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-wink-yes-आँख-मारना-gif-5795910

[south spindle]

Manstopper/FireFrenzy in all honesty

[finite imp]

I don't even have those

[south spindle]

Go all in on Weap'Spec' delete everything that gets close to you

Great fun

[finite imp]

You're making things up and are therefore insane delusional and schizophrenic

[umbral garnet]

I like this man.

[finite imp]

Institutionalize yourself immediately

[south spindle]

Thats the internet i know an love lmao

[umbral garnet]

Calling anyone you mildly distrust schizophrenic is right up my lane.

[finite imp]

Clearly I need to farm more shotguns

[south spindle]

Seriously tho, FF will retain stacks on weapon swap so you can do some crazy shit with specialist

[finite imp]

Wait I do have ff

[south spindle]

The guaranteed crit ofc also guarantees Manstopper

[finite imp]

Manstopper tho is

[umbral garnet]

Wait really??

[finite imp]

Idk

[south spindle]

So all the damage and all the cleave

[terse idol]

Could try the IA?
Bit I wish I knew

[south spindle]

Yep, just gotta swap back within the 3.5s time limit of the blessings

[umbral garnet]

That is wacko

[south spindle]

Which is like, pretty fucking trivial on a good swap setup

[finite imp]

No it's too hard this class sucks

[south spindle]

I recommend new Chainsword

[umbral garnet]

LOL

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-kid-tantrums-gif-15375793

[umbral garnet]

Oh yeah?

[umbral garnet]

Alright.

[finite imp]

You're gonna make me CHANGE WEAPONS???

FUCK YOU DUDE

[umbral garnet]

Gonna fuck around with this Kantrael in Pshyk real quick

[south spindle]

thats the roll you want, sad that FF isnt T4 an stopping power is kinda low, but works fine

[fossil basalt]

Yeah idk, I like the increased rate of carpal tunnel fire on the mgIV for all these rager hordes the Director's been on

But the Ia kinda needs those breakpoints

[finite imp]

Once I figured out always prepared on revolver I was like Holy shit

Kill someone in melee hit q twice

Fucking what

[south spindle]

Ye, goated skill

[umbral garnet]

Oh baby

[finite imp]

Only 2 eh damn

[south spindle]

Ye, only comes in T2

[finite imp]

WHAT

[jade notch]

Could be better, could be worse. Blessings used to be No Respite and something else I can't remember.

[south spindle]

No T3 or 4 versions of that blessing

[finite imp]

The shit I learn every single day

Smh

[rugged goblet]

it's actually surprisingly easy to keep up MF stacks with reconlas, as long as there's anything to shoot at 😄

[south spindle]

Its pretty much infinite cleave tho, so it dont matter

[fossil basalt]

Cowards

[rugged goblet]

until I run out of ammo

[cosmic portal]

did y'all give a shit when the talent economy was fucked for the vet initiall after the dlc, or was the answer to that also "git gud"? 😒

[south spindle]

Imagine T4 of that shit.. penning stuff better than Plasma gun

[finite imp]

Yeah it was still git gud then

[south spindle]

Yup

[finite imp]

We had whacky ass builds

[south spindle]

No keystone Vet builds are still as relevant now as they were then

[fossil basalt]

I just think of a lawbringer actually being good with that duckbill shot

Cleave THIS

[rugged goblet]

as long as you get headshots, you can just continually keep moving

[finite imp]

Our talent tree was hideous and the builds were cursed

[south spindle]

It is for sure, i prefer Kantreal though for the higher up-front damage for hipfire

[cosmic portal]

yeah, hence "bowels of tryhard residency"

[south spindle]

Go play other classes

[finite imp]

Lower. Your difficulty.

[cosmic portal]

no

[south spindle]

I recommned Ogryn, its the easiest in the game currently, you'll be fine

[finite imp]

Then cope

[umbral garnet]

I dunno, man, I'm doing fine on normal Damnation.

[finite imp]

Same

[umbral garnet]

(I am using a power sword and VoC)

[finite imp]

The scientific method is exposing a constant here

[cosmic portal]

i'll seethe and piss and shit until the devs fix it, like they've fixed the vet talent point economy 🤷‍♂️

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[south spindle]

The difference is, that one was a magnanimous opinion of all Vet players. This one is not

[umbral garnet]

Vet is not try hard, dunno what man is trying to say

Sure, can be technical.

But nothing super sweaty.

[south spindle]

VoC is like the least sweaty skill int game currently

[umbral garnet]

Correct!

[finite imp]

Nah any hoop I personally can't get through just means that hoop is for sweats

[south spindle]

On my BAG build i just hit W and LMB through missions like enemies dont even exist

[brazen bay]

is it still better to farm mats by doing t5 low intensity or just go auric

[south spindle]

Normal Damn Quickplay mate

[fossil basalt]

Vet rewards knowing how to play the game at a basic level, and punishes being a dummkopf i.e. skill issue

[finite imp]

I beat my grandad at tic tac toe and and told me to stop being such a sweaty tryhard

[south spindle]

Its the fastest yeild, but if you're used to aurics, QP them because at least you'll have fun

Normal Damn' is kinda a snoozefest after running Aurics a while

[finite imp]

Maybe he needs a different gamer chair

[jade notch]

Does Auric Damnation grant more Mats than Normal Damnation? (Both Quickplay and non-QP) I thought it didn't.

[umbral garnet]

I'd love to play Auric Damns I just don't have anyone to play with

[fossil basalt]

But thats why I like my normal damns now, they so easy for the same payout

[south spindle]

Nope, but like i said, its fun, normal Damn is a snoozefest

[finite imp]

It's lovely for plasteel farming

[south spindle]

Yeah if all you wanna do is get Plasteel deffo the way

[rugged goblet]

@south spindle shotgun wasn't as great for MF, the stacks stack up a bit random because sometimes it's the body hitting pellets that kill the enemies. Keeps up stacks really well though

[fossil basalt]

Until they let me buy plasteel with dockets

[jade notch]

Yeah, fair. Just was never sure if Auric or Regular Damnation had substantially different Plasteel yields.

[south spindle]

Wouldnt run any but Agripiina on MF, other two are Weap'Spec territory

[finite imp]

I'm gonna be so broke if they allow that

[rugged goblet]

Gotta give that a try too

[south spindle]

Actually tbf, i wanna try Weap'Spec' with Agripiina actually... massive slug cleave....

Could be juicy

[fossil basalt]

If auric missions gave more plasteel that'd just make more people queue for it and get us messier matchmaking

[rugged goblet]

but the recon las was surprisingly good

[finite imp]

Agri shotty is my fav one

I have a godroll

[south spindle]

Nah, normal should pay more, keep the scrubs out of Auric

Auric should be there for those that actually want to be challenged, make normal the baseline for farmers

I had so many games last night with fresh level 30s dying in the first area an then trying to backseat till they got rez'd, and then ofc, they die again a few seconds later

[fossil basalt]

All it means is that I'm starved for plasteel and I would do things for it

[south spindle]

We all are pal, we all are

Tens of thousands of Diamantine, never any Plasteel

Is suffering

If they're not gonna give Dia' a reason to exist, at least even out the costs between the two resources

[finite imp]

They need to make diamantine do something else

[fossil basalt]

We live in an Imperium

[south spindle]

If it was 50/50 cost for both, it would be a bit more sensible

So like 400 of each to get to orange, instead of 800 plasteel

Idek how much Dia' it costs because ive totally stopped paying attention to it

[jade notch]

I've yet to hear someone complain about not having enough Diamantine in all my 600+ hours playing this game ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse idol]

Gonna say the funny meme but somehow Level 4 missions are harder than damnation

The skill gap is everywhere

Or well skill variation

[south spindle]

I have no problem with people who havent mastered the game yet, but damn... Auric is not where you go to learn basic game mechanics

Not at all

[versed merlin]

like hitting the barrel in front of you and sending 3 teammates to the pit 😊

lovely

[rugged goblet]

brick city coming up

[fossil basalt]

The only time I've had sub-30s in a damnation and they've survived is if they padded their weapons with t4 blessings

[rugged goblet]

having actually crafted a weapon probably means they know something about the game, even if they are levelling a new dude

compared to the guy with one curio and ~220 blue weapon

[muted knot]

Had a difficulty 4 run today with 12 revives on me alone

It was fun seeing people die every few seconds lol

To be fair Hi Intensity shock troop gauntlet is a bitch on T4

[south spindle]

Nah, it just means they've engaged with the system a little bit, knowing how crafitng works and knowing how the combat loops work are fundamentally different skills

[bitter turtle]

i wish it was adjusted that a t least i dont feel cmopelle dto play normal

if i want to farm at max efficiency

auric mael will never give enough compared to it

[south spindle]

Its healthier for the game to have higher drops in normal Damn though, sadly

[bitter turtle]

it can be higher

[south spindle]

In an ideal world, Maelstrom would drop insane amounts of loot because hardest setting, biggest reward, but you cant trust players to stay in their lane so by having that be the case, you end up having to carry three people who dont know what they're doing because they want the mat drops

[bitter turtle]

but not THAT much higher

the efficiency difference is huge right now

[south spindle]

Which is fun once in a while, but every day? No thanks

[bitter turtle]

i jsut hate having to feel like i have to work

[south spindle]

Maelstrom drops the same amount of loot as normal at the minute, its just harder to grab it all

[bitter turtle]

when i want to try a new weapon

its even worse bc the best way is to qp

i dont even get to choose the mission

[south spindle]

Yeah its not ideal, but thats more a flaw with the system as a whole

Crafting needs a full fuckin do-over

Because quite frankly, it disrespects our time to an absurd degree in its current form

[cerulean void]

most of my checks notes 864 hours of playtime is trying to make decent fucking weapons

[gusty sonnet]

Yeah, I was hyped about the new weapons, but then I realized the grind I'd have to do for this patch, and the upcoming patches for experiencing new content, that I just dropped DT for monster hunter instead

[terse idol]

Gonna have a hot take but, some weapons are decent and seemingly only a few need to be exact to meet breakpoints

Looking for the perfect roll is fine and dandy but it shouldn't overcome your enjoyment

[cerulean void]

certainly not, but decent =/= perfect roll

[south spindle]

Devs also shoot themselves in the foot with crafting remaining as it is too, its very hard to find outliers an problems with various interactions if the players, or even the playtesters, cant make the random build combinations they desire due to obsessive levels of RNG

[tardy plaza]

Nobody needs a perfect 380 to do auric maelstroms or to do better than everyone else

[south spindle]

Ofc not, but thats not the point

[junior grail]

Makes my brain happy though

[south spindle]

If you want a specific roll for a build, its often a fucking slog to get it

[terse idol]

But you don't neeed it, mainly the blessings matter

And... perks

[tardy plaza]

If you'll suffer nothing less than perfection, sure

[terse idol]

There needs to be ways to undo the locks

[south spindle]

And when some weapons rely heavily on perks and blessings, and in some cases stat rolls too, to hit breakpoints, its fucking stupid to have a system that is entirely random

[terse idol]

But in that case only a few weapons will ever need that perfection

[south spindle]

None of them should, it makes balancing a nightmare, at the very least, axe the random as fuck stat rolls

[tardy plaza]

My point is you don't always need that extra 20% damage against flak, you can still play the game and do great instead of driving yourself up the wall rolling weapons

[orchid condor]

Does first time playing make the game load longer?

[terse idol]

And I imagine only a few instances will ever miss breakpoint and sometimes you can circumvent it with talent choices

[orchid condor]

My friend been loading the screen for like 2 mins now

[south spindle]

You can do Aurics with grey weapons if you're good enough, but that doesnt make crafting automatically get a free pass

[terse idol]

Sometimes, it also helps if you have an SSD

And have darktide installed on it

If you dont its gonna take a long time to load at first

[south spindle]

People want interesting builds and weapons, if you put deliberately anti-player blocks in the way, people arent gonna like it, its not rocket science

[terse idol]

My friend doesn't have it on an SSD and it takes a good 5 minutes

[bitter turtle]

im not lool

lol*

[tardy plaza]

If your build can't make it without that exact tier 4 perk then your build is not interesting

[bitter turtle]

im just trying to try things

[terse idol]

I do get it though because it's not fun to roll weapons

[south spindle]

Why do you always seem to have this penchant for defending a blatantly anti-player system, i gotta ask

[bitter turtle]

explain how else am i suppsoed to try all the different knife loadouts withotu grinding the fuck out of it

[terse idol]

They need to add in ways so folks that do want to perfect weapons can do so easier

[bitter turtle]

people who do meta builds

actually have an easier time

they only have to make 1 weapon

vs people who want to have FUN and experiment

its even WORSE

[south spindle]

This.

[terse idol]

At this point if a new player at level 30 did roll a god tier weapon but they obviously don't understand the crafting or stats they may very well destroy it without knowing
And there is a case of folks rolling over 1m credits and getting nothing

[tardy plaza]

because everytime I need to roll for a build I get servicable weapons within 10 minutes and I'm in game having fun. I get on discord and everyone is constantly whining and bitching about every aspect of this game

[terse idol]

There should probably be safeguards in place so that doesn't happen

[tardy plaza]

"i NEED my breakpoints, i NEED my 380"

[terse idol]

Okay to be fair like when we gaming you don't hear it on discord, you hear the complaints because we' not gaming

[south spindle]

So you actually dont have a leg to stand on, because you're happy with any old shite Hadron throws at you, ok

[serene sage]

If you knew all this then the solution is to stop looking at Discord

[bitter turtle]

how am i supposed to compare different knife builds

if one has groaner damage

[orchid condor]

i think he using a HDD

[bitter turtle]

and one has specialist dmg

[haughty pond]

did they already released this skin? I was absent for like 10 months

[orchid condor]

He dont even know 💀

[terse idol]

Yeah darktide isn't a game you want to run on an hdd

[tardy plaza]

Some people on here are fun to talk to and seem to have good things to say about the game

[acoustic wyvern]

unreleased atm

[serene sage]

I am 😎

[tardy plaza]

and no, I go for the general perks/blessings I want but I don't sit there wasting millions looking for the perfect rolls

[terse idol]

😭

[tardy plaza]

Unless it's power cycler then you can generally settle for lower tiers or the wrong perks

[haughty pond]

I see, what about og guardsman, cadian one?

[terse idol]

It wouldn't break the bank to ask for a liiitle less rng when you've commited so much currency though too

[finite imp]

that skin is way too cool no way they'd release it

[acoustic wyvern]

oh man idk about that. we only got tons of recolours and different helmets

[serene sage]

There has been one Cadian one but it's uggo af

[south spindle]

This is where you're getting things wrong. We're not asking for perfect 380s, we're asking for the ability to play what we want

[haughty pond]

yeah red one?

[versed merlin]

aight dclaw 4 with shotty weap spec is good. not the best, but it works. just had this run on an auric t5 was pretty fun to play with

[serene sage]

It's flak armor with greenish tint? Honestly my memory is hazy

[south spindle]

Boi i love getting Terrifying Barrage 8 times in a fucking row, its great

[terse idol]

I will say there are some useless blessings

[haughty pond]

there was this one show for kids where cashier said double the fun double the price lmao

[terse idol]

FS would be alright giving us a blessing store tbh

[versed merlin]

being able to parry a chaos spawn and a plague ogryn feels so fricking good man

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-metal-gear-gif-26063920

[acoustic wyvern]

they did. its melks and the armoury

[south spindle]

Remove locks, let us buy blessings from Melk instead of weapons, system fixed

[serene sage]

I have 2500 Aquillas but jdk what to spend it on...

[terse idol]

[serene sage]

Yeah that's the one

[lime trellis]

las

[south spindle]

That is legit a sick armour set

[lime trellis]

gj y

[terse idol]

Oh I like that

[haughty pond]

indeed

[terse idol]

Fl hg

[haughty pond]

with this we can die like true guardsmen

[serene sage]

Really? I find it ugly haha

[versed merlin]

those pants with the current newest chest piece at the store might look pretty dope

[serene sage]

But I won't yuck your yum

The current Vet set is hella cool

[terse idol]

Kinda wished it came with a cool helmey

[versed merlin]

yeah but i hate those chicken legs

[terse idol]

New shop now???

[versed merlin]

no

the last one we got

[terse idol]

[versed merlin]

[versed merlin]

yeah that one

[serene sage]

This one cool

[terse idol]

I just hope they don't give us thick legs

Hate the thick legs

[haughty pond]

it would be way cooler if we received armor the vet is using on the lead artwork

[versed merlin]

so long as its not those squared legs or chicken legs, its fine but

[serene sage]

I hate legs, they should chop off vet's legs

[terse idol]

I got a theory that it's gonna be another peanace set

[serene sage]

And mount them on top of Ogryns

[south spindle]

Got a thing for crippled war vets have you Fox?

[sleek garden]

Have you guys noticed ragers don't have death animations

[haughty pond]

I kinda hate it myself, this skin was made literally from everything we got before lol

[sleek garden]

They just crumple every time

[terse idol]

They already did with that one skin... but only half 🥹

[versed merlin]

complete a auric maelstrom mission without taking any damage at all

[atomic zephyr]

i'd be down to become an ogryn's autoturret, i'd never shoot one in the back again

[haughty pond]

wouldn't complain

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[serene sage]

FS hates vets, I'm just saying the next obvious step 😔😔😔😔😔

[south spindle]

No legs means a smaller hitbox tho

[serene sage]

Does AT5 HISGT count?

[south spindle]

Thats a buff if i ever saw one

[terse idol]

Veteran, but its just a Nam vet

😭

[serene sage]

Lt. Dan outfit

[haughty pond]

give me 3 psykers with assail and we're home

[south spindle]

#veteran-class message

[versed merlin]

they should add: no premade allowed

[sleek garden]

Kid named 10 bulwark rager horde rush:

[haughty pond]

kid named agripinaa braced autogun:

[sleek garden]

I just had a game with all light gun veterans and one taunt ogryn and we shot a lot of people

[serene sage]

0 damage HISGT AT5

[south spindle]

Done a build with that, an one with Graia, both are actually desgusting

[serene sage]

I got carried

[cerulean void]

there was a time yday, forgot what map but a narrow stairway was occupied by two crushers, a bulwark, six ragers, and a reaper at the back and lemme tell ya

[haughty pond]

this weapon saved my ass so many times

[sleek garden]

Does agripinaa stagger bulwarks

[haughty pond]

but the las weapons are the way

[south spindle]

ye

[sleek garden]

How

[haughty pond]

it cuts through them like hot knife through butter

[south spindle]

Wait for em to swing, shoot em in the face

[terse idol]

I gotta say I had a game with all 4 vets and they just hit different, feels like I'm almost playing a different game

The themeing

[sleek garden]

I use the kantrael(?) Lasgun the middle tier

[half wigeon]

what's the name of the new shovel taht can one shot crusher ?

[terse idol]

Hit diifferent

[serene sage]

It's okay, you can say CoD

[half wigeon]

is it the 7 or 3 ?

[south spindle]

MKIII

[finite imp]

3

[cerulean void]

like, you're in a horde game, but it's not really a horde game until you're just four guys

[lost portal]

It can do what now?

[versed merlin]

at least one of them has tag ping bounded to left mouse click

[half wigeon]

one tap crusher

[south spindle]

[inland orchid]

Bonk a crusher outta existence

[terse idol]

Really we just want to return to monke play l4d2 again

[haughty pond]

https://tenor.com/view/amy-poehler-chefs-kiss-amy-poehler-chefs-kiss-really-seth-and-amy-gif-25804339

[sleek garden]

It's usually either slower or faster than a normal game because either your team kills every shooter on the map so you can move freely or you are getting held down by hordes

[lost portal]

I know that, how the fuck do you get that many buffs?

[south spindle]

No HitnRun, no FF, B tier im afraid

[serene sage]

It's not even 380 are you even trying?

[brazen bay]

Day 186 looking for thrust t4 for my shovel, still no luck keep finding the t3 starting to think 4 doesnt really exsist and it is simply a gaslighting effort by the entire community spearheaded by Fatshark.

[serene sage]

Trash it, now

Or give it to me

[cerulean void]

Fatshark are cowards for not putting Hit N Run on actual guns

[sleek garden]

Thrust/crunch/a bunch of stacking buffs for heavy attacks

[haughty pond]

as long as it works lmao

[haughty pond]

nah gonna give it to hadron

[bitter turtle]

imagine having380s

i have

literally

0 380s

because i cant afford to waste plasteel minmaxing the last 5% of dmg

[south spindle]

I have a few, most of them are bricks tho

[sleek garden]

I have like 4 380s

[bitter turtle]

when i want to try a lot of different shit

[lost portal]

………
Yeah, that would do it.

[serene sage]

Weak sauce, I have 5 380s all of them are bricked

[versed merlin]

is that onslaught i see?

[sleek garden]

I have my laser gun unfortunately the perks are locked

[half wigeon]

yes

[bitter turtle]

let me rephrase

[terse idol]

I got 1 380 (I bricked it) woops

[bitter turtle]

imagine having 380s that dont roll groaner damage

[sleek garden]

380 I mean

[south spindle]

I just wish this had Maniac, but Specialists isnt totally dead so cant complain too much

[versed merlin]

how is it a one shot if you're proccing brittle stacks on the crusher?

[terse idol]

Pox walker damage my beloathed

[versed merlin]

or do you not need onslaught at all for that?

[half wigeon]

u don't need it

[unique orchid]

Ive been playing a hella commissar build recently, shout vet with the Heavier laspistol and old chainsword, goes hard

[sleek garden]

Saying groaners don't do big damage is crazy their back smack damage after trying to 1v5 ragers is painful

[half wigeon]

perks & blessing do it

[south spindle]

Onslaught is only good on weapons with a fast RoF/Swing speed

[sleek garden]

What

[south spindle]

Graia BAG fucks with Onslaught tho

[versed merlin]

recon

[unique orchid]

They mean the like +8% groaner versus the vastly superior +20% infested

[sleek garden]

do guns get the benefit from onslaught I thought it was melee only

[south spindle]

Yep, they do

[versed merlin]

ahh thrust?

[bitter turtle]

guns get it

actually you have it backwards

for a time

it was bugged

so melee DIDNT get it

lul

[sleek garden]

Weird

[half wigeon]

idk iam building it

[sleek garden]

I swear I saw it on the melee side of the skill tree

[bitter turtle]

it is on the melee side of the skill tree

[south spindle]

That doesnt mean anything

[bitter turtle]

but skirmisher also benefits guns

[south spindle]

Yep

That whole tree is about weapon swapping

[bitter turtle]

so does weapon specialist

[sleek garden]

I mean I thought it only applied to melee
This was before keystones

[versed merlin]

theres another node on that side that procs brittle when you melee crit

[sleek garden]

I only play one kind of vet

[bitter turtle]

yes, even before keystones, it benefited guns

[sleek garden]

Okay

[bitter turtle]

then when keystones it, they bugged it and it onyl worked on guns

and not melee

then they fixed it

so now its both again

[delicate estuary]

who bent my knife

[inland orchid]

An ogryn sat on it

[tardy plaza]

Musta sat on it wrong

[ocean idol]

Take a swing seems interesting?

[delicate estuary]

brutal momentum just better in comparison

cause it ignores hit mass

which means you can cleave

[finite imp]

That's a sapper shovel tho

[delicate estuary]

do they not get it ?

[finite imp]

You could get some real utility with armor

Theybdo

I'm just saying that blessing would be great against armor

[acoustic wyvern]

theres no brutal momentum for shovels

[delicate estuary]

not sure about great since it means you would have to push every time you wanted to flip attack crushers or whatever

[finite imp]

Consider you one tap them...

[delicate estuary]

you have to have the blessing to one tap the m?

[finite imp]

A quick shove to get that boost ain't the end of the world

What no the mode change can one tap crushers

It's like a pick

[delicate estuary]

I know

but do you have to have the blessing to one tap them

[finite imp]

I'd imagine you'd still one tap if you crit

[delicate estuary]

not sure I guess

how is the boss damage on it

might actually try it with my mk12 build cause I am getting bored of powersword

and I only run PS for armor

[ocean idol]

except shovel does not have it

[finite imp]

1 bird in the hand worth 2 in the bush is what I'm getting at

[delicate estuary]

yes aphat notified me

which of the folding shovels is the better one

[finite imp]

Well

3 is better against armor

[bitter turtle]

isnt their bonk dmg the same

[ocean idol]

Which would 2 or 3 shot a crusher lol

[finite imp]

7 is kind of middle of the road

[ocean idol]

If 60% bonus damage is actually what i think it is

ANd not actually way smaller

which might very well be the case

[finite imp]

It could easily one shot

I mean it

Dome piece strike? Yeah

[ocean idol]

3 and 7 are so similar you might as well not care

[delicate estuary]

how does that blessing even work

do you actually have to push an enemy

or is it just the push animation required

[finite imp]

I'd say animation regardless if the push works or not

As a pushed enemy is in a stagger state

[celest vine]

The fucking director hates you on scab only melee maelstroms

[delicate estuary]

well

[finite imp]

And it doesn't say staggered

[delicate estuary]

you cant push crushers

and stagger them

[finite imp]

I know

[delicate estuary]

thats why I am asking

[finite imp]

I know that's why you're asking

[alpine bear]

Not with that attitude

[delicate estuary]

just run headtaker

then you can stagger them

[ocean idol]

well even if it does not work on crushers...

[delicate estuary]

not with pushes tho

[ocean idol]

Should be really good against horde

[finite imp]

Look bruv

You got a good shovel

[delicate estuary]

the other option is all or nothing

I usually run deadshot so I can get quite a bit of synergy from it

[acoustic wyvern]

you can always try limsplitter and thrust

limbsplitter*

[finite imp]

Thrust is fun

You wind up like an elder ring boss

BONK

[ocean idol]

this is what i have right now

also bought from milky

he showering me with t4s lately

[trim kayak]

hello fellow veterans

[alpine bear]

Hello sandmann

[acoustic wyvern]

mighty fine shovel there

[quasi socket]

this good for a start?

[trim kayak]

anyone got a good build suggestion for full autogun?

i used to use recon las until i realize there were better option

[delicate estuary]

do you use deadshot ?

[acoustic wyvern]

do you mean braced or iag's?

[quasi socket]

nah

[alpine bear]

1a infantry lasgun is all u need, brother

[trim kayak]

right now my build is best described as "Glorified Pikeman", I use the MkII helbore to stab and shoot, only swapping to my energy swordwhen I really need to help with crowd control

[delicate estuary]

do you plan on using it

[tiny summit]

Yea it's called just equipping an autogun

[trim kayak]

but with the new update messed my old build so im open to suggestion

[trim kayak]

the one u can aim, not brace

[acoustic wyvern]

ah iag

[quasi socket]

nope, got high stability columnus that ive enjoyed mag dumping

[delicate estuary]

yea well unless you plan on doing a lot of push attacks to drain your stamina then all or nothing might not be the best option for you

[grave pelican]

Anyone have good tips for completing "Make Every Shot Count?"

[acoustic wyvern]

i run my agripinna iag with dum dum and fire frenzy

[tiny summit]

Revolver and no ammo aura

[delicate estuary]

get a shitty ammo roll on a revovler and mag dump in hordes without running ammo aura ?

[alpine bear]

Shotgun no ammo aura

[quasi socket]

tips on what to replace with?>

[tardy plaza]

Revolver, no survival, get am atch with no vets

[acoustic wyvern]

the agri iag is really great cause it has that same oomph as a helbore and its weakspot dmg is pretty high

[grave pelican]

Tried Shotgun, didn't miss a shot and still didn't complete so Imma try Revolver

[trim kayak]

also anyone know how to specificall to queue for specific mission? I need to do the investigation mission on heresy+ but i found only one match today that I got in, that ended up me getting one shot by poxbuster (i am not ready for Damnation diffucluty yet)

sometime throughout the day the investigation mission dont even pop up, im trying to finish my penance and this is my last one i think

[tiny summit]

Nope. Whatever is on the board at the time is what you get

[delicate estuary]

not sure honestly as I run deadshot so havent spent much time thinking about a setup for it

[lofty lintel]

Do y’all take deadshot with surgical or just pass up on it

[dusty ferry]

Deadshot surgical is sort of overkill

[lofty lintel]

thats what im thinking

[acoustic wyvern]

personally i just leave deadshot out

i need dem stamina in case

[lofty lintel]

how big is the difference between 0.45 and 0.3

[noble onyx]

As far as I know, not all current missions fit on the display, plus you might end up in a mission no longer on the board via quickplay

[lofty lintel]

tier 1 surgical and tier 4

[tiny summit]

Yea surgical is enough and keeps your stamina to block if needed

[lofty lintel]

i just got a really trash purple helbore with tier 4 surgical on it

on my special token store

[acoustic wyvern]

its a nice upgrade

[lofty lintel]

i see

[acoustic wyvern]

lemme check how fast

[lofty lintel]

is it noticeable?

tier 1 is 10% crit chance for every 0.45 seconds while aiming where as tier 4 is 0.3

[acoustic wyvern]

ah its prolly barely noticeable

i remember upgrading from tier 2 to 4

and i didnt even feel the difference

everything was dying fast enough

[lofty lintel]

i see

[acoustic wyvern]

a charge crit is already overkill

[lofty lintel]

im gonna rebless just for the sake of min maxing

[tiny summit]

Kill a few things, hit reload...oh those were all crits and I'm at full mag

[acoustic wyvern]

are ye using the hellbore 3?

[lofty lintel]

1

i dont like the 3

[acoustic wyvern]

ah i see

[elder vessel]

Just ran into Don Jarktide

[alpine bear]

Hellbore 3 my beloved

[south garnet]

it probably stings that the columnus is so much better on zealot huh? doesn't it? HUH?

[acoustic wyvern]

oh? how so

cause i rarely play zealot so i'm curious

[south garnet]

with the left keystone which is basically nonstop crits plus chastise that essentially ignores armor

melts a crusher in like 15 bullets

[quasi socket]

i use revolver on zealot because easier to proc empty magazine by 1 tapping things

[south garnet]

I rarely use that node but for revolver it makes sense

[acoustic wyvern]

is there a prerequisite to make that work

[south garnet]

aside from taking the rightside fork of the left crit keystone and taking chastise as your F ability (which you'll have available basically all the time due to crit CDR), no

[safe vector]

Speed load is good on the new laspistol, right?

[devout atlas]

Sorry but your laspistol is bricked

(no not at all lol)

It's still possibly the worst blessing on it I'm afraid

[finite imp]

If God seems quiet it's cuz the teacher don't talk during the test

[devout atlas]

Ghost and Dumdum I'd say are what you're aiming for

[safe vector]

Good to hear. I got a T4 version in a random roll, wanted to know before i junked it

[dapper vessel]

Laspistol just needs Dumdum then between Raking Fire orInfernus

[devout atlas]

New one does not get much on Infernus

I'd grab Ghost since it's headshot focused

[safe vector]

Also what's more valuable. Flak or maniac?

[devout atlas]

Flak and keep unarmoured, makes killing Unarmorer Gunners more consistent likely saving you a round

[tall warren]

Is the plasma gun considered a las weapon? Does the talent Shock Trooper work for the plasma gun?

[devout atlas]

No.

[safe vector]

Plasma is plasma. Las is las.

[devout atlas]

Also before you waste a talent point. Deadshot doesn't work with plasma

[finite imp]

Can you imagine

[devout atlas]

Sorry I can't I have aphantasia

[devout atlas]

wait until you find out about Gunker

[finite imp]

What color is an apple

[devout atlas]

idk like red or green depends

[finite imp]

Cured

[devout atlas]

Wish it was that easy

[finite imp]

Describe red

[safe vector]

Until I can scrap a gun for ghost, raking fire, and dumdum. Ill have to stick with speedload.

[devout atlas]

It is a color

I can't imagine the color red that doesn't mean I can't recall memories

[finite imp]

I'm just saying you clearly have some imaging abilities

[devout atlas]

I have never seen anything other than what's in front of me or the inside of my eyelids

[finite imp]

I think humans just arent in full agreement on what imaging something in your head actually means

[devout atlas]

Sunrise do you have aphantasia

Can you imagine an apple spinning

[finite imp]

I dont know

Yes

[devout atlas]

So you see it as if it was real yes

[umbral scaffold]

If you have memory

You can imagine things

[devout atlas]

I have auditory imagination

[umbral scaffold]

If you had no memories, you would literally be a golem

[finite imp]

This is what I'm saying

[bitter turtle]

can you imagine deez nuts

gottem

[umbral scaffold]

Damn

[finite imp]

Epic win

[umbral scaffold]

Wizard

I imagined them

[finite imp]

I can in fact imagine those nuts

[umbral scaffold]

Curse of overactive imagination

I cannot control what my mind conjures

[devout atlas]

that's crazy I've never had that problem

[lofty lintel]

i have that

[umbral scaffold]

I hate when people talking about gross shit when I eat

[acoustic wyvern]

wait

[finite imp]

Balls

[lofty lintel]

the intrusive thoughts man

[acoustic wyvern]

do you really have auditory imagination

[finite imp]

Don't think about balls

[lofty lintel]

im thinking about balls

[finite imp]

You absolute madman

[tall warren]

Besides Power Cycler what is the best blessing to have on the power sword?

[finite imp]

Bm

[umbral scaffold]

I can see, how my senses would feel, and hear nasty sounds that all adds up to me losing my appetite

[devout atlas]

Yeah I can make up music in my head and talk to myself in my head. I also can imagine tastes and smells and phantom touch but absolutely nothing visually.

[finite imp]

RTx off

[tall warren]

Also how does Power Cyler work exactly? It's just how many hits you can do with the glowing energy before it dims?

[lofty lintel]

thats like being normal

[finite imp]

Bro I have no fucking idea these nerds just tell me things and I regurgitate them willy nilly

[umbral scaffold]

Can you imagine a body sensation then feel it?

[lofty lintel]

as far as i know most people can make up or listen to music in their head

and have a monologue

and imagine tastes

most if not all

lol

[finite imp]

Bro I hear music that doesn't exist in my head at night when I'm going to sleep

[umbral scaffold]

My hyperfixation is disco Elysium, and now my inner monologue is the narrators voice

[lofty lintel]

everyone does bro

[finite imp]

You should sing karaoke here.

Your soul is immense

[unique orchid]

I very rarely suffer from an auditory hallucination of the SONIC beeping from when i worked there years ago

[acoustic wyvern]

My little brother has autism and has difficulty remembering people. but his sense if sound is pretty sharp. its also a part of my username with him

[finite imp]

You deserve financial compensation

[lofty lintel]

yeah

[devout atlas]

Nah aphantasia of senses is a thing. There's even some people that have total aphantasia. Total darkness and silence, not even an inner monologue yet they can still function completely fine.

[lofty lintel]

thats not hallucinating tthey just fucked your hearing up

[unique orchid]

Real
Post Traumatic Sonic Disorder was a joke around the place

[lofty lintel]

they gotta pay up

[scenic bronze]

Brunt giveth hadron taketh

[umbral scaffold]

One of the youth that I mentor has autism and uses his ear for music in the band he plays in now

[finite imp]

I just feel like we haven't figured out the human mind enough to make that determination

[eternal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eat-lava-minecraft-kitty-kitten-lava-gif-12699880907047808909

[finite imp]

Imagine that ^

[unique orchid]

He can have a little as a treat, you know

[umbral scaffold]

All creativity springs from a clear mind, these people have their imagination constantly in action

[devout atlas]

People with ASD struggle with sensory overloads, this can result in a very good sense of hearing that's also very exhausting and painful. Remember reading a research paper that it was likely a byproduct of an evolutionary trait that was supposed to help humans with that gene in detecting predators.

[acoustic wyvern]

i can scarcely feel what my lil bro goes through but it must be really hard huh? @devout atlas . its pretty rare from my side of the world

exhausting and painful

[umbral scaffold]

Awesome lore

[acoustic wyvern]

its difficult when we do ride the public train

[umbral scaffold]

That must be hell

[finite imp]

I can't go to sleep without a running hose in my pocket

[umbral scaffold]

He got noise cancelling headphones?

Those are a god send

[acoustic wyvern]

i can't imagine it tbh

ah yea we have a pair the hospital gave us

[umbral scaffold]

Baller

[unique orchid]

Speaking of weird mind inner monologue, i have a very clear distinction between want and need, and the pair argue often

[acoustic wyvern]

insured ones haha

[finite imp]

Your muddled brain would like to remind you of a boxer named Contact Mike

[devout atlas]

Can you communicate with them without clearly controlling their response

[umbral scaffold]

I got the angel and devil on my shoulders, the angel speaks with the narrator from disco Elysium, and the devil speaks with my voice

[finite imp]

That's just normal

[unique orchid]

No, im need as opposed to want

[umbral scaffold]

Just how you see your own conscience

[unique orchid]

I guess its more discipline versus desire or something

[finite imp]

My name is literally from disco elysium

[devout atlas]

That's pretty quirky I don't have anything that complex

[umbral scaffold]

I seent that

[vital bobcat]

ya p much

[umbral scaffold]

Hard af line

[devout atlas]

my inner monologue is completely under my control

[umbral scaffold]

Second to detective arriving on the scene

[unique orchid]

I am certain i suffer from the lowest form of insanity, mine just manifests as being a Victorian Iro-American

[devout atlas]

What

[umbral scaffold]

Do you meditate?

[devout atlas]

Yeah occasionally

[acoustic wyvern]

do you manage to like, remember things first hand as you get older

[umbral scaffold]

I have surface thoughts that always swim up when I am doing mental work

[unique orchid]

My quirkiness exists mostly as dressing and speaking in a more antiquated way

[umbral scaffold]

Have to reread the same page 3 times before I can comprehend it

[south spindle]

Whats this mental health chat now?

[lofty lintel]

isnt that autism

in the most respectful way

[acoustic wyvern]

yep

[finite imp]

Do y'all get that in britain

[umbral scaffold]

It’s interesting to learn how others perceive the world

[devout atlas]

can you elaborate I don't understand the question

[unique orchid]

May as well be

[umbral scaffold]

How other vet mains think

[south spindle]

I found myself caring less and less about that as i got older in all honesty

[unique orchid]

Yeah, schizo chat is psykers, ogryn is chad chat, and zeallie is theological debate and soul nonsense

[south spindle]

No, we just have rain and shitty governments

[umbral scaffold]

More power to you, I operate on the idea that an interesting person is someone who takes an interest in what others have to say

We all different

[acoustic wyvern]

hmm i don't know how to explain it better but i think i'mma just drop it atm. stay strong dood

[devout atlas]

You're giving Zealot chat way more credit

[finite imp]

Bro

Zealoult chat

Is just femboy central

[umbral scaffold]

:0

[devout atlas]

ty I'm okay though

[south spindle]

Subtle

[acoustic wyvern]

i think there was a zealot here earlier rubbing

[devout atlas]

so that's why they're insufferable and racist I see

[umbral scaffold]

LMAO

[finite imp]

Correct

[lofty lintel]

theres something with femboys theyre all like that

its crazy

[south spindle]

As a Zealot main, i can say catagorically, that chat as some serious issues

[unique orchid]

Vet chat is usually complaining, so this is a nice change of pace
Also yeah zealot chat is often either toxic or theological dispute

[south spindle]

Few cool people, but mostly absolute weirdos

[umbral scaffold]

Sup fellow guard chads

[unique orchid]

Hello fellow guard chad

[finite imp]

Guard?

Only rejects here comrade

[south spindle]

Rude

[lofty lintel]

dude no way lol i was about to say that

[acoustic wyvern]

theres no rejects here

only cadians

[lofty lintel]

but im in an auric malestrom i cant keep tabbing in n out of the game to talk

[umbral scaffold]

:’)

[lofty lintel]

cant keep up!

[unique orchid]

Also, question: it just me or are the ogryn players basically the most chill people in DT

[umbral scaffold]

Only in death do I forfeit my duty's

I think so

[devout atlas]

From my experience a lot of femboys are just ||closeted transfems that are too transphobic and misogynistic to ever admit it to themselves let alone anyone|| but that's a bit too heavy of a topic to continue imma play Lethal Company bye

[umbral scaffold]

Reminds me of dwarf mains in vermintide 2

[acoustic wyvern]

its cause they're big and don't reallly require much thinking to play with

[unique orchid]

[umbral scaffold]

Wtf

[south spindle]

I would say no, it hinges more on the person than the class they choose

[umbral scaffold]

The femboy lore goes crazy

[acoustic wyvern]

so basically

[devout atlas]

I think it's because most Ogryn mains have not started as Ogryn so they're more relaxed, experienced and less argumentative. Single class mains are the toxic ones.

[unique orchid]

I agree, but certain kinds of people gravitate toward certain classes, look at Shade Kerillian

[acoustic wyvern]

zealots are furries

[lofty lintel]

yea pretty much

[crude ermine]

Got a nice thrust 4 on the new shovel, tho not sure whether to keep it on the VII or extract it and put it on the IIIQ

[sharp epoch]

not the discord one

[umbral scaffold]

What are vets?

[lofty lintel]

best most fun class in the game}

[umbral scaffold]

A good ogryn is both a blessing and a curse to a vet

The adhd andies?

[south spindle]

Half sound, half whiny crybabies

[unique orchid]

Vets are kinda mixed yeah

[zealous wyvern]

they die fast enough for it not to matter

[umbral scaffold]

I like vet because there’s so much specials to shoot, it’s stimulating

[devout atlas]

Notice how the most chill Vets don't cry about shit, they solo carry AuDamn with a suboptimal melee build and have every other class put Psyker at 30

[umbral scaffold]

itches my dopamine to kill specials

[acoustic wyvern]

lol, highlight enemies and go brrrrrr

[lofty lintel]

i like vet because you can use the shovel

and the helbore

[umbral scaffold]

Baller

[umbral scaffold]

So tru so based

[devout atlas]

Meanwhile the worst offenders of every class channel have never touched another class nor woman.

[unique orchid]

Im not THAT good, but i try my best to support the team, get those double or triple rez with the funny shout

[lofty lintel]

i dont cry about anything as long as i can still fuck shit up with a helbore and a shovel

[umbral scaffold]

[south spindle]

Yeah no... lol, i dont think i've seen more than one Vet ever clutch A.M

an thats in nearly 2k hours

[umbral scaffold]

Recon las gun makes me happy I just wish it was lil bit better

[unique orchid]

I rock a commissar cosplay, new heavy laspistol and old chainsword, both go hard

[devout atlas]

They're all in my dms moaning and calling you a smelly loser

[finite imp]

Unhinged murderers

[umbral scaffold]

I was playing rogue trader, and it just makes me wish there was a longlas in this game

[zealous wyvern]

i am a chill vet who does not carry auric damnation whatsoever and have only vets on my account

[umbral scaffold]

I got all the penance gear

[south spindle]

Im sure they are, you wanna vocalise your weird fascination with disliking me any more or have you had your fill this month?

[dense willow]

Any of you ranged enthusiasts have a voice of command build for me to copy? I have no clue how to build vet, running braced agri and knife, if relevant.

[unique orchid]

Lucky bastard, i still need to do MESC

[umbral scaffold]

We hating out here

[umbral scaffold]

I've clutched a ton but I'm a VoC build so

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/gangstas-gang-gif-4833656

All my homies hate the British fr

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-25208323

[unique orchid]

I can give you mine, but it is built for crit laspistol and team support

[south spindle]

VoC has a greater chance than most other setups, gotta be said

[dense willow]

it'll do fella, I'd be grateful

[umbral scaffold]

Which one is that is that the leave the mission with 90% accuracy?

[unique orchid]

And no ammo

[umbral scaffold]

Man that one is hellish

[zealous wyvern]

make every shot count indeed

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-crown-rowan-atkinson-john-cleese-cheeky-gif-18093547

[zealous wyvern]

that one is easy now that the aura is no longer FORCED on you

[umbral scaffold]

OOO

[zealous wyvern]

just bring a plasma, dont bring survival aura and enjoy not missing any shots

easy as hell

like actually

[umbral scaffold]

that’s good to know you can just take the other auras now

[umbral scaffold]

I also have all health in my qurros because I find it basically impossible to use veteran with the basic health for melee

[zealous wyvern]

if you dont manage to hit 90% of shots with plasma

that is

weak

[umbral scaffold]

I might give it a try

[acoustic wyvern]

i run this for brace agri and shout

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/c12c7a03675ae48b1ae29531f70ddc79.png

i'd do this

[zealous wyvern]

just spam shots into a boss

[bitter turtle]

since you have knife

[dense willow]

Based, thanks fellas

[zealous wyvern]

just make sure not to hit assassination target shields or ogryn shields

[bitter turtle]

grab that desperado

[umbral scaffold]

Double rending goes hard

[finite imp]

Probably one of the best nodes in the tree tbh

[acoustic wyvern]

i like to think it works haha

[dense willow]

You don't go into keystones?

[umbral scaffold]

Okay here's what you do go get a plasma gun and make sure it has high damage but low ammo then use that for the entire game until you run out don't you survivalist and pray to God that you aren't on a team with somebody with survivalist

[bitter turtle]

no

[zealous wyvern]

its still funny to me that automatic weapons are the best for the marksman focus keystone

[umbral scaffold]

The kill shot shirt is indeed drip

[zealous wyvern]

seems counterintuitive

[bitter turtle]

not all builds need to keystone

[south spindle]

Stamina or bust, sir

[dense willow]

Interesting

[umbral scaffold]

Eeh

Double rending helps the vraks headhunter 7 functions without crits

[south spindle]

Some builds benifit a lot more from not having Keystones than others for sure

BAG's come to mind

[dense willow]

I'll try bofadeez out, appreciate the help

[umbral scaffold]

Love the vertical monitor

[small loom]

Weapon specialist + close quarters blessing on the new revolver feels good

[bitter turtle]

the iags/brautos are ones I just dont keystone on personally

[umbral scaffold]

For my Sharpshooter build I don't even have key Stones it's just the middle and left path

[bitter turtle]

maybe if right tree worked better with automatics

keystone i mean

but it doesnt

sadly

[unique orchid]

This is what im using, just about

[umbral scaffold]

Not bad

Hold on is there a site for that

[unique orchid]

Yeah literally just google darktide build editor

[umbral scaffold]

Noice brb

[south spindle]

This shreds

[bitter turtle]

ya

though uh

why that last toughness regen instead of ogryn dmg

[umbral scaffold]

Love the .50 stamina delay nodes

[south garnet]

what about him, the rending subnode?

[bitter turtle]

or is it toughness dmg reduction

[south spindle]

Its TDR ye

[umbral scaffold]

Super good to have instant stamina

[bitter turtle]

man

you msut really want that i guess

lol

[south spindle]

Ogryn damage just aint really needed honestly

[bitter turtle]

instead of the stam delay node or ogryn dmg

[tardy plaza]

I've moved from psyker to vet and I gotta say

I am fucking awful at vet

[south spindle]

Stam is basically free with Hit'n'run an Duck'n'Dive

[unique orchid]

Iron Will is honestly one of the stronger perks in the game i think

[umbral scaffold]

Brother has to aim now

[south garnet]

vet is unironically the most complex class to play

[acoustic wyvern]

you basically changed game from magic to fps

[tardy plaza]

The aim isn't the trouble, it's surviving 💀

[south spindle]

Immune to ranged attacks = dodging = free stam to fuel Deadshot

[tardy plaza]

I feel like a wet paper napkin

[unique orchid]

My gamer just build a little bit of stamina and learn how to melee good

[inland orchid]

As you should on anything besides chunky ogryn

[scenic bronze]

Bar code gang

[lofty lintel]

just block parry dodge

https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281

[tardy plaza]

I'm workin on it

[south garnet]

my name

[unique orchid]

Fair point

[acoustic wyvern]

i can keep exe stance up for 30seconds but i can't manage my peril on a psyker for shit

[umbral scaffold]

The urge to just do dmg

[acoustic wyvern]

why am i shooting flames when i can just kill

[unique orchid]

Psyker is fun, but mentally taxing as a Brain-Burst double-shield support psyker

[lofty lintel]

i dont like psyker

but tbf i never liked playing mage class in any game

[unique orchid]

Fair, schizo brain wizard isnt for everyone

[tardy plaza]

Psyker is definitely my best class

But I also really love Zealot

[acoustic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-shots2throwing-bullets-epic-military-throwing-bllets-bad-ass-gif-18997556

[lofty lintel]

just give me a gun or a sword and im set

[acoustic wyvern]

gun psykers

[tardy plaza]

In fact I like zealot more than psyker, but I'm better at psyker

[lofty lintel]

i see

[tardy plaza]

it's so strong

[scenic bronze]

Zealot is the only class I consistantly see 1000+ level, maniacs I say

[tardy plaza]

There's nothin you can't do as a space wizard

[lofty lintel]

might try it in the futrue

future

[umbral scaffold]

My fav component of psyker is not using ammo with a staff

[lofty lintel]

id rather be a space marine

[tardy plaza]

I did see a 1000+ one psyker once

He wasn't that good 💀

[unique orchid]

The only class i havent reached 30 with is oggie, barely played the big guy, not my kinda playstyle

[acoustic wyvern]

we already had space marine and it was a disaster. look at deathwing

[wanton dawn]

I have been killed by a rez shout. Guess how

[lofty lintel]

yeah that shit sucked

[tardy plaza]

Fire

[lofty lintel]

im waiting for space marine 2

[umbral scaffold]

Here's my basic build 4 sharp shooter vet

[terse idol]

I saw a great level 600 psyker

[unique orchid]

Shouted a burster into you

[acoustic wyvern]

september 2024

[wanton dawn]

[acoustic wyvern]

T_T

[scenic bronze]

2000 💀

[terse idol]

How long would you have needed to play to get 2000?

[lofty lintel]

how many hours are in a year

[unique orchid]

Twice as long as 1000

[acoustic wyvern]

nice, you should drop for the emperor imo

[inland orchid]

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