veteran-class

[weary acorn]

then yes, i agree, just gotta figure otu which one kills the fastest now

[finite imp]

curved mags

[sleek cairn]

that's cheating!

[devout atlas]

i was an exec boltgun veteran and had more melee kills than them

[elder vessel]

some people would kill for this Power Sword

and this bro got his RAW

[stiff pasture]

Honestly I couldn’t tell you because I’ve only ever used two of them

[devout atlas]

they hid in cover while i solo'd a chaos spawn

[flat pebble]

this comes up so infrequently that it’s the reason i added “functionally every weapon”

[elder vessel]

From the branch of thr tree

[devout atlas]

like not dealing with other enemies, they hid from the spawn only

😭

[finite imp]

Yeah yeah yeah go ahead and flex

[stiff pasture]

You guys know the energizer blessing you can get for power sword or whatever it’s called?

[devout atlas]

btw anyone know the correct blessings for a boss killer boltgun? is it shattering impact?

[elder vessel]

this isnt mine bro

[finite imp]

Power cycler

[stiff pasture]

The one that increases cleave on powered swings?

[elder vessel]

this is that guy

[dusk idol]

surgical pinning

[finite imp]

Oh energized

[stiff pasture]

Yeah that one

[devout atlas]

oh thats exactly what i have, nice, im guessing unyielding flak

?

[stiff pasture]

I got the level 4 blessing on a power speed

[lofty lintel]

hows the mk 10 kantrael heavy laspistol on a melee vet build btw?

[dusk idol]

yeah or whichever other than unyielding that you want

[stiff pasture]

Is it worth keeping?

[devout atlas]

nice im basically running this

[finite imp]

It would be cool if we could trade items in the morning star js

[devout atlas]

mind looking at my build too?

[dusk idol]

sure

but i haven't slept

n i might troll you

[flat pebble]

power sword is brutal momentum + power cycler 99% of the time

[finite imp]

I'll cross examine his testimony

[stiff pasture]

So me keeping the mediocre roll sword with power cycler 4 and energized 4 is pointless then?

[flat pebble]

none of the other blessings except maybe sunder or slaughterer are worth@l picking up and that’s if they change how BM works

[flat pebble]

post the sword?

[finite imp]

Can you actually post card

[wanton dawn]

So here is my feeling: bayonet is fine but I don't think you want to play melee vet with current state of flame damage

[finite imp]

Or did you already

[finite imp]

Just wear sunblock

[stiff pasture]

In a bit, I’m at school rn heading to a study session for finals

[finite imp]

What's your major

Malfunction

[flat pebble]

gottem

[sleek cairn]

hey cmon now. Melee vet has always had fire issues

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fmj-full-metal-jacket-gif-24053533

[wanton dawn]

Yeah but previously you only lost your shield. Now you lose your life

[finite imp]

For what weapons

[devout atlas]

boltgun boss killer

its been working for me so far but idm any advice

[finite imp]

Do you play t5

[sleek cairn]

just run triple flame damage resist

hehe

[devout atlas]

auric damnation

[dusk idol]

it'll work for shitting out damage

[devout atlas]

that's the job ye

[lilac gale]

What's the difference between auric and normal?

[finite imp]

Yeah you're glass cannon af

You might try dropping something for iron will

[devout atlas]

auric is non stop horde, a lot more elites/specials

[flat pebble]

i wouldn’t take bolter without infinite shredders imo

[finite imp]

Just to increase survivability

[devout atlas]

I'm good

[wooden lotus]

weapons specialist is always 33% and not 33% per stack, right

[devout atlas]

I'm the last to go down even on this type of build

[lilac gale]

Ty

[devout atlas]

demo team is enough

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-hands-neil-degrasse-tyson-shrug-gif-16274429

[scarlet timber]

I actually really like the graia IAG for low difficulty. I find it a little kicky but meh. just satisfying for some reason.

[tight dragon]

not nearly as good but i can try your method on it but base rating is lower

[flat pebble]

ah didn’t click demo team

yeah should be fine

[devout atlas]

your advice is solid but i just haven't found the need

[finite imp]

Asks for advice and then kicks me in the BALLS

[lofty lintel]

whats the best performing shovel for a melee vet build ?

[dusk idol]

you can lose your right tree deviation for the ability modifier for more survivability if you feel like you have issues

otherwise, yeah, if dmg is what you're looking for it'll work out

[lofty lintel]

im using standard issue and its great but im wondering if im missing out on the other 2

[devout atlas]

was considering just more grenade regen lmao

[dusk idol]

yeah that's what i noticed

[lofty lintel]

i heard the new one is good at single target with the special but lacks a bit at horde clear

[dusk idol]

your grenade regen rn is just demo team

[flat pebble]

stop answering questions people ask you idiot

[devout atlas]

alr switched demo team to iron will and got free shreds

[lilac gale]

Base damage on the new ones are worse than old.

New sfx are better though

[devout atlas]

gonna try that out

anyone wanna fireteam?

[lofty lintel]

i see

[dusk idol]

are you in aus

[lofty lintel]

am i chillin with the standard issue one tho?

[finite imp]

At least he didn't say I was useless

[lofty lintel]

or should i be using another one

[lilac gale]

Unsure about the cleave of the new ones though, not able to check

[devout atlas]

hmm. I've tried the mk3 in a melee specialist build but I found my tax2 to still outperform it, personal preference though

[lofty lintel]

i see

[devout atlas]

it did good work though

[flat pebble]

they reserve that for the people with comments about knife users in zealot chat

[dusk idol]

you chilling, mark 3 is alright apparently

[devout atlas]

mk3 with decimator + skullcrusher

[dusk idol]

but standard is still solid

[devout atlas]

lights do great horde-clear

more attack speed more better I guess

[lilac gale]

I think the old shovel is better for horde clear. IMO it depends if you can oneshot zombies with a charged swing or not (with the right perks)

[lofty lintel]

yeah shovels my favorite melee for vet it just feels super good to use

[lofty lintel]

i see

thanks a lot

blessings should be skullcrusher and trauma?

[dusk idol]

skullcrusher uncanny feels the best to me

[lofty lintel]

i just rolled thunderstrike not sure how good that is

[finite imp]

Is anyone here trying to put together a general vet guidelines?

[dusk idol]

you are

[flat pebble]

get delegated idiot

[lilac gale]

I haven't labbed it out. But even if the new one has a lower rating, if you know you can deal with hordes and your excess damage stat isnt wasted, seems fine still. But then, what's the purpose of the mode switch in the build?

[finite imp]

Honestly a compliment

[flat pebble]

for the mk3 shovel?

[lilac gale]

I found mode switch did decent damage against scab maulers in the one damnation game I tried

[devout atlas]

probably the way to go tbh, let me slap it on mine and see how it feels

[dusk idol]

chad

[lilac gale]

Yeah

[lofty lintel]

okk makes sense ive used uncanny on other weapons its super good so thats what ill go for

[devout atlas]

scrusher is defo a must have tho

[lofty lintel]

thanks a lot

🙂

[flat pebble]

yeah the single target damage is huge

[devout atlas]

actually have this, should I bother upgrading it?

[lilac gale]

Tbh im mostly spitballing based on limited experience and because im bored at work

[devout atlas]

I have a god OG shovel and a god mk3

[lilac gale]

But I am permashovel

[devout atlas]

eyy

[lilac gale]

Hail the shovel

[dusk idol]

i inted my team because i was blasting music and couldn't hear the plagryn buttfucking them all

sorry team

[devout atlas]

alr

anyone wanna fireteam for some aurics?

[dusk idol]

are you

na

[nimble sentinel]

aight so mk 3 shovel fucking slaps hard on a melee build

[devout atlas]

im EU but my wifi good so we can do east coast

[dusk idol]

😭

[devout atlas]

ye its light spam goes crazy

[dusk idol]

alright

we'll both be lagging

[devout atlas]

I get better ping than americans its funny

[finite imp]

I'm out to dinner as of now or I'd jump on the opportunity

[dusk idol]

i'm australian

[nimble sentinel]

honestly feeling like the light spam controls crowds better than the wide swinging heavy

[lilac gale]

Unarmored is only half of the horde trash health types though

[finite imp]

That explains your sleep schedule

[lilac gale]

Poxwalkers are Infested type

[dusk idol]

more like lack thereof

[finite imp]

Lol

[nimble sentinel]

I do feel like I should swap unyielding to something easier for horde killing tho

[flat pebble]

i would try out unarmored

[finite imp]

If you're want is horde kill unarmored

[nimble sentinel]

will do o7

[lilac gale]

Unyielding is just reapers and bulwarks i think?

[nimble sentinel]

bosses too

[flat pebble]

and beasts of nurgle and demonhosts

[finite imp]

Honestly I would write a guide if they didn't keep changing the vet

[flat pebble]

scab captains are flak iirc

[lilac gale]

Oh dang I thought bosses were monstrosoties

Or are they kind of overlapping

[finite imp]

Ogryns got it so good with that ogrynomocon

[nimble sentinel]

emps gave me this, is it salvageable?

[flat pebble]

monstrosities isn’t a stat tied to a perk so it’s not really relevant

except for the contract

[lilac gale]

Tbh new shovel mode switch into the Twins' head sounds based

[lilac gale]

Ty

[lilac gale]

Whats the ratio of groaners to poxwalkers?

[flat pebble]

the thing is is that infested generally isn’t worth it because it’s more specific than unarmored

it’s not about the ratio

also they’re usually dead in a swat anyway except dogs

[finite imp]

L+

[tall torrent]

Let’s goooo

[lilac gale]

Wiki says poxwalkers are like 50% tougher than groaners

[flat pebble]

unarmored includes parts or all of some elites and specials including the scab bruiser bodies etc

[gray stone]

yo vets, which of the new weapons is worth investing in?

[lilac gale]

Are you shoveling them though?

Im asking specifically for shovel spam, my b

[flat pebble]

uh, yeah?

with the mk3 shovel you can point it at functionally everything

[finite imp]

I'm not a big fan of lasguns

Mostly cuz my hands hurt

[lilac gale]

My b, thought you mean the elites

[flat pebble]

allow me to take this off ur hands for you chief

[tall torrent]

This is the slow firing one

[rancid echo]

muzzle flash also hurts my eyes

[flat pebble]

i did mean elites

why would you use the single target damage shovel if you aren’t using it on elites

[finite imp]

Basically a giant pussy

I'm a *

[lilac gale]

Touche

[rancid echo]

i prefer plasma gun, except now new patch broke the animations and sfx

[terse idol]

Woops

One bug fixed

Another added

[flat pebble]

Oops! All Plasma Bugs

my favorite cereal

[lilac gale]

That sounds vaguely heretical

[sleek cairn]

only vaguely so we're safe

[gray stone]

yall, give me 3 good ranged weapons to godroll

[flat pebble]

mk 9 headhunter, graia braced, recon lasgun 7

[nimble sentinel]

MGIa lasgun, Columnus IAG, Revolver

[flat pebble]

please don’t take that at face value those are three of the worst ranged weapons in the game i just said

oh god

[sleek cairn]

revolver plasma columnus

kings

[lilac gale]

Irony is dangerous when people want genuine help

[sleek cairn]

being real tho, revolver plasma columnus

[gaunt hinge]

Columnus brauto

[nimble sentinel]

no love for infantry las?

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-gif-12945843696836467887

[flat pebble]

we do a bit of joking

[finite imp]

CIAG is my choice

I love revolver tho

[sleek cairn]

hmm other guns are good but they need actual nodes on the tree.
Revolver Plasma Columnus can function without the skill tree

[finite imp]

Plasma is the safe boy weapon

[gray stone]

oh, cheers

[finite imp]

Zzzz

Plasma so boring

[sleek cairn]

The 3 of them fill the archetypes so well, they nullify the other guns within their category lol

[finite imp]

But I can't deny how effective it is

[lilac gale]

Im curious what the average difficulty people play in this server

[finite imp]

It's being boring is a testament to its power

[flat pebble]

plasma kinda hard to roll for but so worth it

[gaunt hinge]

Average sedition players

[lilac gale]

Minmaxing godrolls on stuff makes malice pretty trivial imo

[nimble sentinel]

yeh, kinda why I didn't pick it myself

[finite imp]

Why even play anything below t5

[flat pebble]

almost universally auric damnation players

[finite imp]

You're gonna get matched with dummies

[rancid echo]

low intensity 5 to farm mats because public matchmaking is goddamn terrible

[sleek cairn]

you mean #veteran-class channel? if you've ever heard of the rumors, we're tryhards.

usually solo auric maelstrom with no bots, full clear. that's the average difficulty

teammates are for noobs.

[finite imp]

T5 damnation hard carry lord

Our class sucks and we know it

[gray stone]

wait i thought the recon mk 7 lasgun was the crowd fav, what happened?

[finite imp]

We just don't care

[flat pebble]

mk6 was, and it’s not got enough support anymore to justify its base behavior

[finite imp]

I like gun

[sleek cairn]

You want the real answer or just jokes?

[rancid echo]

i can only carry with veteran because point at thing and shoot

[finite imp]

It's nerf or nothing

[nimble sentinel]

||the only thing that sucks harder than vet is me 😎 ||

[flat pebble]

mk7 was considered/is considered the worst recon lasgun and has been for a while

[gray stone]

real stuff (i play ogryn/vet is my least played class) im unfamiliar with base gun meta

[flat pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-vacuuming-slurpvacuum-briankik-gif-26319223

[serene sage]

📸

[sleek cairn]

like these notes?

[gaunt hinge]

Recon died when they changed its crit

[sleek cairn]

Straight from official

also crit strings

[gray stone]

oh rip lol

[flat pebble]

the crit string shock trooper situation that once elevated it to useable went away so it’s back to bad

[flat pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/not-from-a-jedi-star-wars-jedi-gif-16821218

[lilac gale]

Unironically Relaxing fun with random weps

[flat pebble]

once you can play damnation it’s the most relaxing

[sleek cairn]

wait, us vets are suppose to have fun?

[flat pebble]

heresy pugs are tragically stressful because of how often you have to carry people that don’t belong in high diffs

[terse idol]

[gaunt hinge]

Big true

[finite imp]

T5 is as cool and refreshing as water skiing

[terse idol]

Maybe that's why I had so much trouble when I was trying to carry my lower level friend on heresy yesterday

They already have a level 30 char but they're leveling vet

[finite imp]

T5 pubbies are a diff breed

I'm one of em lmao

[terse idol]

But oh my god some of these lobbies felt harder than auric damnation fr

[finite imp]

If you ever run into a knife wielding vet named kradd it's ya boy

[lilac gale]

T3 is pretty brainless shooting gallery. I can use infiltrate builds and overextend and not be punished :p

[flat pebble]

it’s herding cats in heresy half the time

[gray stone]

so main weapons for me to focus are; revolver (old & new), plasma, and columnus (from what i understand is new hype gun)

[ocean idol]

What you guys think ab out new laspistol and revolver on vetr?

[flat pebble]

columnus IAG specifically

[lilac gale]

Tbh im more anxious about letting down my team with my aim

[finite imp]

Idk wtf they were thinking giving the new revolver no pen

[rancid echo]

plasma is big fun

[sleek cairn]

aw that's kinda cute. Use a plasma and get out there soldier

[gray stone]

appreciated, feels like normal ranged list has doubled in length

[sleek cairn]

We dont aim around these parts

[finite imp]

That has to be an oversi5

Oversight

[flat pebble]

you can use the pin that guardsman made for ranged weapon rolls, for perk and blessing advice btw

[rancid echo]

play grenade build

[lilac gale]

I legitimately hated using the plas in the lab

[gray stone]

oh?

[lilac gale]

Way ahead of you

[brittle jewel]

What you think on the new revolver ?

[finite imp]

Just practice.

It's the only way to get good

[terse idol]

New plasma is kinda cool

[flat pebble]

#veteran-class message

[terse idol]

I did get a decent roll but dump on stability and the recoil slaps

Which I mean, fine stability dump but goodness

[lilac gale]

Rn im maining laspistols so I have a high incentive to aim good. Im definitely not bad (been playing shooters for a long time) but nerves quickly deplete skill

[flat pebble]

muscle memory will quickly replace thought with practice

[finite imp]

My brother do you know how to swim

You jump in

[lilac gale]

But then again I can vomit grenades at a flak target and help, so that's nice

[flat pebble]

the only way you’ll get better is by moving through difficulties though

[finite imp]

You have to believe in yourself

[sleek cairn]

its okay elizard, u can do this. Start by using plasma and forget aim

vets dont aim

[terse idol]

Yeah, my friend forced me to get out of Champ on V2 and it's honestly for the best getting out of your comfort zone

[flat pebble]

heresy is the worst jump but if you just do it you’ll get used to it in a couple matches

[terse idol]

You will improve with time

[lilac gale]

Id rather be a servitor doorknob

[finite imp]

You just have to keep slamming your face against the wall

[ocean idol]

New plasma? Wat?

[flat pebble]

also the plasteel rewards kinda make their own argument

[terse idol]

Woops

New Las I mean

Lol

[finite imp]

Bro I got so many oranges my inventory lags

Ty t5

[ocean idol]

Old one also did not hav e any

[terse idol]

The new Las pistol I mean

[finite imp]

Maybe that's ehy

[sleek cairn]

but im not joking, u get headshots without aiming with vet these days

[lilac gale]

The new laspistol felt good when I was doing t5 new map, even though I was a bit shaky

[terse idol]

One day you're a servitor door knob the next you're a servitor hookah in the carnival, you grow up in the world

[flat pebble]

t5 rewards, one successful QP run is either a grey to a purple or a purple to an orange each run, it is the way

[terse idol]

😌

[sleek cairn]

pick revolver or plasma, try vaguely shooting the chest of an enemy from far away. u will land a headshot

[ocean idol]

how it compares to old one though?

[lilac gale]

Servitor hookah is my new favorite thing

[flat pebble]

it’s fine

[terse idol]

Well and understand how Iron sights work

[blazing veldt]

revolver bullet has a really big hitbox

[sleek cairn]

in fact, try shooting that 2 pixel sniper while drunk and from behind a wall. U will headshot! i promise

[terse idol]

It took me... like 8 years and now I finally understand how to aim irons

[ocean idol]

you can do it with shotgun too

[lilac gale]

Your shots count more but you have to make fewer shots. Bit less effective range. Huge hitbox

[ocean idol]

at least with kantrael

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, I definitely get hits i shouldn't with it.

Which is always nice.

[terse idol]

😌

[forest scaffold]

Aim less, kill more

[sleek cairn]

Did you forget the "behind a wall" part?

Plasma doesnt even need Line of Sight

[ocean idol]

So it is better if you really good with headshots?

[lilac gale]

Ultimately I don't know how the math compares if you're 100% accurate

[flat pebble]

you have to be tapping heads with the laspistol to begin with or it’s wildly suboptimal

[blazing veldt]

I have pretty bad aim but revolver has always been easy to headshot with

[open cosmos]

So tired of zealot mains running ahead on strike team guantlet missions. Those missions are tough, I need my focus stacks, and I cant afford to lose them by standing up.

[terse idol]

Plasma does have the interest affect that if you charge you can shoot through cover
Have a gunner taking cover behind a pillar or a half wall?
Charge and kill them

[lilac gale]

But if some important targets go from 2 headshots to 1, that's a crazy improvement

[flat pebble]

crits on headshots with a laspistol though do crazy damage and the new one is no different

[sleek cairn]

NO need to charge, I shoot through walls all day. I dont even risk danger

[terse idol]

[sleek cairn]

I just spam like a degen

[ocean idol]

I know, it has ridicilous damage when you do it

[sleek cairn]

i run behind the thickest 10inch wall i can find and shoot through the walls at the marked enemy

[flat pebble]

charge gives it more wall pen, it’s there already

[lilac gale]

I think the slightly longer time between shots helps with actually aiming and adjusting rather than m1 spam, but that's a skill issue

[astral blade]

Ya know what I find kinda funny

[flat pebble]

i’ve only ran it one match so far but it did seem like it had horrible range

[ocean idol]

Also probably infernus less effective with it though

[flat pebble]

that was the worst thing for me

[ocean idol]

not that it was any effective in the first place...

[astral blade]

Ya think that the vraks 7 would actually be a hard hitting weapon

Seeing as it’s semi automatic

[ocean idol]

new one or old one?

I was talking about old

[flat pebble]

old one

[ocean idol]

have not tried new yet

[flat pebble]

sorry new one

[ocean idol]

wat

[lilac gale]

True

[flat pebble]

i tried new one

[ocean idol]

you can snipe snipers on any range

[flat pebble]

brain fart

im multitasking at work rn

[sleek cairn]

they tried to buff it tho.

[lilac gale]

Does anyone know the max range of newlas?

[astral blade]

Heh bud it needs 300 dps minimum

[flat pebble]

it took me like 4 shots on a sniper at range to kill it with the new laspistol in one circumstance

[terse idol]

Honestly because I... rolled t3 infernus on my new heavy Las pistol, it can make value

[astral blade]

Just personal opinion

[ocean idol]

shots or headshots?

[terse idol]

I see myself shooting crushers in the head and the extra fire can put them down

still probably better to build for crit

[ocean idol]

Laspistols require you to do headshots

[flat pebble]

i think one was a non crit headshot

[ocean idol]

if you can't do it consistently, don't bother

[flat pebble]

it was at basically max range so i was just doing what i could

[astral blade]

Seeing as the vraks 7 is a “sniper”

[ocean idol]

It only gives any value on bosses

otherwise it is pretty useless

[terse idol]

Hmmm

[ocean idol]

But laspistol basically does not have good blessings lol

[astral blade]

Ya think it would be more harder hitting

[pulsar drift]

Am I building correctly? I cant rly insta kill bosses like in the vid 😦

[flat pebble]

raking fire dumdum is alright with infiltrate or the invis zealot

[ocean idol]

oh god

why it is so bright

[flat pebble]

raking fire adds a lot of damage

[pulsar drift]

hdr?

[lilac gale]

Ghost is cool. Idk if it's great but it's cool

[ocean idol]

Your eyes must be bleeding

[blazing veldt]

Nurgles myopia

[ocean idol]

does not matter on vet, you have toughness regen from headshots

[flat pebble]

@formal lake look what you’ve done

[gray stone]

this Azreal guy gets a lot of crap, how come?

[flat pebble]

look the build in that clip you saw was a meme build for insane dps specifically on bosses

[pulsar drift]

damn

[flat pebble]

you’re not getting there with a normal build

[lilac gale]

Touche

[astral blade]

Allow me to give an example so y’all know how it potentially takes 3 to 4 shots to kill a dreg gunner with the vraks 7 if shot in the head

[terse idol]

I could see a stealth infil vet with raking fire?
Maybe dumdum

[pulsar drift]

It was misleading?

damn no wonder why

[flat pebble]

im just giving him a hard time here no one’s giving him crap rn

[terse idol]

Hmmmm

[gray stone]

ah okay

[ocean idol]

you know what

[astral blade]

Just personal opinion but it should only take 1 shot from the vraks 7

[pulsar drift]

I was kinda having pain in melee with this build

[terse idol]

Azreals like the vet dooder he's good

[ocean idol]

I might try abusing smoke grenades with raking fire

[flat pebble]

yeah i was just saying this above lol

[astral blade]

To headshot a dreg gunner

[lilac gale]

Yeah that's deeply disappointing

[terse idol]

Your theory?
My theory 😌

[flat pebble]

he just wanted to see if he could do the big funny, this discord is like that

[ocean idol]

PSword still good for ev erything, right?

[flat pebble]

our theory 🤝

[untold mulch]

Game theory

[pulsar drift]

Jez

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/sob-arnold-gif-12406885

[astral blade]

Anyways I’ve said my daily opinion

[lilac gale]

It doesn't have the painted on powersword effect, lame

[astral blade]

Hope y’all have a good one

[terse idol]

I don't think they fixed dum dum yet either so it's free damage

[sleek cairn]

i dont know why i feel so guilty he tried to mimic azreal's shit

are we the baddies?

[flat pebble]

vraks 7 is all about having a 99th percentile roll and a supporting build, that’s what gets the one taps starting

it is actually excellent it just requires SO much to get online

[sleek cairn]

so much u start to eyeball the revolver

lol

[gray stone]

oh lol i thought the recon mk 7 was the blue one. shows how much i know bout vet ranged

[flat pebble]

i do like having maniac damage lol

[sleek cairn]

i just can't stop revolver-ing.

[flat pebble]

i got my fill for it during patch 13 on zealot but it’s fun

it’s high noon, not that i can see the sun from this hive hab

[sleek cairn]

fun!? u mean game breaking

[flat pebble]

eh it is very strong i’ll say that

i feel like game breaking is like, the limbsplitter bayonet thing or when surge staff was doing double damage

[compact briar]

pulled this on a gift

[ocean idol]

what blessings for new revovler?

[compact briar]

which one of these should i keep

[compact briar]

for kantrael shotgun

[flat pebble]

we’re gonna need to know the whole gun bud

[compact briar]

lmao sorry

[ocean idol]

btw, i never tried terrifying barrage on any weapon

I wonder if it is actually good lmao

[flat pebble]

it’s not

[ocean idol]

don't melee enemies basically get stunned?

[compact briar]

gun itself is bad but idk which T4s are good

[flat pebble]

hardly affects any pertinent enemies

[flat pebble]

a lot of enemies have suppress resist

[ocean idol]

well do hordes have it?

[flat pebble]

it’s more appealing on paper

i think poxwalkers do

[compact briar]

i mean psword deals with hordes just fine

[flat pebble]

as far as a shotgun goes it’s really just not worth it even if it did work, full bore + no respite does too much

[compact briar]

so neither are clutch, gotcha

[sleek cairn]

u wont catch me touching the new revolver

[flat pebble]

you can make do with fire frenzy no respite

but i wanna see the perks and stats

oh there it is sry

[ocean idol]

why so?

[flat pebble]

stopping power unfortunately not a dump stat

just take fire frenzy

[ocean idol]

When i tried it on zealot, it just had annoying breakpoints

wonder if iti s better on vet

[compact briar]

yea i know the gun is garb, its like 304 base lvl

[sleek cairn]

I just melee my bosses and throw kraks. I dont really use my guns for bosses if i can help it lol

so the new revolver is functionally void to me

[compact briar]

put FF in my bingo book

thanks

[ocean idol]

what melee do you use?

[sleek cairn]

RaChad caxe2

[flat pebble]

if you really wanna use it and don’t care about taking the t4 blessing you could just swap the blessings to no respite and full bore but i wouldn’t use that shotgun personally

[astral blade]

Imma just drop this here so you beautiful vets can laugh at this

[flat pebble]

flak and unyielding are fine

[cosmic crag]

wellity, wellity, wellity

[balmy flume]

By the throne.
Tagging and taking all the damage nodes and rending.
I can IAG gun down a Crusher with reasonable ammo usage

[compact briar]

hey are Blaze Away and Heating Up like the only real choices for Plasma?

[flat pebble]

im not sure that the intended purpose of the new revolver is actually boss damage

[flat pebble]

gets hot and blaze away, pretty much

[sleek cairn]

what do u think is the intended purpose compared to its sister

[cosmic crag]

https://tenor.com/view/dohliy-dhl-nibbler-gif-26300616

[flat pebble]

close range burst on non crusher elites and specials

[sleek cairn]

[south garnet]

@serene sage my shop is still borked

[alpine bear]

I don't think it's designed to high noon bosses either

[pulsar drift]

What about this melee revolver build?

[south garnet]

fuck

[sleek cairn]

im actually giggling lol tile's the best

[flat pebble]

im sorry is something funny to you

[pulsar drift]

Using the new revolver of course

[flat pebble]

i didn’t say i used it

[sleek cairn]

i mean from a dev standpoint, that's an awfully specific design choice with shotguns and plasma, etc in the fray

[flat pebble]

did i

[sleek cairn]

im just giggling AT you.

[compact briar]

idk how you can justify not taking 10% rending

[flat pebble]

somehow more specific than dedicated boss damage?

ok

[alpine bear]

I mean, I don't think there needs to be a specific reason for it to exist

It's just a revolver that shoot fast

[pulsar drift]

okay

[cosmic crag]

portend the rend

[sleek cairn]

sry i said that wrong, i meant im not giggling AT u lol

i understood what u meant

just made a typo

[ocean idol]

why would you have krak with revolver

[astral blade]

Hey guys question what does brittleness effect?

[compact briar]

^

[pulsar drift]

Becuz points

[ocean idol]

So, do smoke grenades act like invisibility ult?

[flat pebble]

it’s global rending

[civic bay]

*rending

[flat pebble]

yeah obviously

[civic bay]

just in case haha

[lilac gale]

I saw a reddit post which broke down how it worked and it's weitd

[pulsar drift]

Also

[lilac gale]

Snipers can shoot through it lmao

[flat pebble]

you could have waited two seconds to see if i made an edit lol

[sleek cairn]

but is the new revolver the best at its role? it can also compete with bolter

[pulsar drift]

Revolver can’t deal with bulwarks

[civic bay]

not everyone edits so I figured it didn't hurt to throw out

[lilac gale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/Xt8t0FXHZR

[flat pebble]

i’m not sure i’d compare it to bolter which since the finesse changes is more of a dmr with the capacity to deal burst

[brittle falcon]

It can, but you have to let the bulwark swing at you.

[lilac gale]

I can't vouch for accuracy but it's interesting

[sleek cairn]

hm ur right

there's also the draw time

[flat pebble]

im not sure new revolver is, like, competitive to anything else yet

i still need to try it out for myself

[gritty dock]

Use Always Prepared and you should probably have at least 1 bullet always loaded for free.

[flat pebble]

but apparently the weapon feel is nice

[lethal lantern]

best blessings for vraks 3 autogun?

[south garnet]

headhunter deadly accurate

[lethal lantern]

ok ty

[pulsar drift]

I am thinking between 30 weakspot, suppression immunity, crit chance when dodging, always prepared,

[gritty dock]

30 weakspot is very good

[pulsar drift]

always prepared is great but on new revolver is kinda

[civic bay]

not as necessary since you reload all ammo at once

[pulsar drift]

Cuz it reloads fast enough and one bullet some time just not enough

[civic bay]

amazing on old revolver though

[lethal lantern]

which vraks variation is the best for auric?

[pulsar drift]

The old revolver is just fine

New one not rly

So

[flat pebble]

on vet arguably the 7

[ocean idol]

thanks

[pulsar drift]

Suppression vs weakspot

[flat pebble]

but you need max damage and stopping power basically

[pulsar drift]

Which is better to take

[civic bay]

honestly, that passive is kinda questionable imo since it's basically hand-crafted for revolver and not much else? sorta shotguns but shotguns don't necessarily need it either xD

[south garnet]

I like the 9 lol

[flat pebble]

the vraks 7 used to need a very specific set of stats and perks to meet breakpoints and probably still does

[south garnet]

but vraks 3 is most accessible and flexible I'd say

[flat pebble]

you used to need 25% unarmored, 78 damage and 75 stopping power to one tap a dreg gunner

[lethal lantern]

gotcha. ill try them out lol

[lilac gale]

Stopping power affects damage?

[flat pebble]

check stats in game haha

[lilac gale]

Damn

[flat pebble]

mouse over them they reveal a lot of pertinent modifiers

[south garnet]

yes, it's the next most important stat after damage on any weapon it appears with

arguably more important

[lilac gale]

Im glad i brainlessly talk here

[civic bay]

affects damage versus armored, maniac, unyielding + stagger

you'd think it's like collateral but noooooope

[flat pebble]

i think they changed that because i remember some collateral stats used to list damage modifiers

but now it seems it’s exclusively the stagger stat

[serene sage]

same bro

[south garnet]

[flat pebble]

are you two ok

[lilac gale]

Aye aye comissar

[south garnet]

NO

AAA

[serene sage]

the borkage

Loadtide

Darkwait

[south garnet]

borktide

[flat pebble]

warhammer 40k minutes of load screens

[vivid cedar]

is there any difference between the mk 3 and mk 7 shovels?

[flat pebble]

apparently it’s that the 3 is good and the 7 isn’t

[serene sage]

this thing any good?

[alpine bear]

It's actually long enough so you can watch a 40k lore video while you wait

[lilac gale]

7 is a heretical number. 3 is good

[flat pebble]

i’ve heard two people say now the combat is tedious or complicated

[south garnet]

let me just quickly glance at all 8 shops across 4 chara- oop just passed 4 o'clock, time to check em again

[flat pebble]

but apparently the vibe is excellent

azreal called it slow

[serene sage]

show me your Steam library games, I will judge your taste

im v unbiased

[flat pebble]

i played both owlcat pathfinder games does that help

[lilac gale]

I really hope I like Rogue Trader

[alpine bear]

Oh boy, 4'oclock. Time to see if the hellgun is in the shop!

[serene sage]

honestly idk anything about anything

i just saw 40k tag

[south garnet]

I'm incredibly biased if that's of any use

[flat pebble]

it was rogue trader’s dev’s previous two games

[south garnet]

name anything, I'll have an irrationally firm position on it

[flat pebble]

owlcat makes some fun stuff but it’s janky as sin

[flat pebble]

mia rudolph

[serene sage]

i appreciate it but it doesn't help if i have no clue what the previous games are either

[flat pebble]

they’re functionally dnd crpgs

[serene sage]

Washingston Churchill

[south garnet]

weird face, pass

[south garnet]

weird face, pass

[alpine bear]

The Imperial II Star Destroyer

[south garnet]

I don't watch anime

[serene sage]

Locke Mk IIb Spearhead Boltgun

[serene sage]

that's a lot of update queued, I judge thee a procrastinator

[south garnet]

incredibly sexy, great gams on that dame, that's a yes

[gray stone]

guilty

[alpine bear]

I trust this man. He has Among Us installed and updated

[civic bay]

Steam does automatically delay updates on games you haven't played recently so there is that

[flat pebble]

this is the greatest reason to not trust someone

anyone that has among us still downloaded and updated is a fed

[serene sage]

plenty of good games, lots of coop stuff 🤔 you're a sl*t for having friends

[gray stone]

pretty sure among us auto updated

[serene sage]

remember, im unbiased

[gray stone]

amen

[flat pebble]

fox is confirmed no biases

[alpine bear]

Almost a hundred hours? 100% trustworthy

[flat pebble]

i checked using my biases as reference

[serene sage]

two wrongs always make a right

[gleaming turtle]

Would someone here mind talking me through what to put on Chainaxes/what perks to look for, as well as what to put on the new Chainsword?

[lost portal]

@south garnet It’s done.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9acba373-8bf4-4471-b5a0-332e0992e9d5/professional-detriment

[serene sage]

Chainsword you want Rampage, Maniac (important to one shot rev heavy mutants, some swords can do this without but most can't and will need Maniac damage, it's good anyway) and the rest is up to taste. I personally like Bloodletter and Flak

[lost portal]

I also made it substantially worse

[south garnet]

now THIS needs to do numbers

[lost portal]

somehow

[south garnet]

knife kant lmao

[gritty dock]

Can someone tell me what the difference is between standard missions and golden missions?
Is it explained somewhere, e.g. how much more difficult they are?

[flat pebble]

isn’t chainsword damage tuned so that you always get a mutant ohk on heavy rev attacks

[south garnet]

hahaha suppression node

I'm gonna actually run this

[serene sage]

not mine and mine is pretty decent, I can show in a second

it's like barely off

[flat pebble]

we had a long conversation about this the other day

[south garnet]

alright, next steps for this puppy are repost it as a rec to people who don't know better, as well as convince a mod to pin it

[flat pebble]

im gonna kaszinsky you

[lost portal]

God that would be so funny

I need to do some extra editing though since there are a few grammar errors and I forgot to explain the knife blessings

[forest scaffold]

do you mean. . . auric?

Auric has a slightly more difficult AI director

Maelstrom is an actually unchained director

[serene sage]

Auric is where men die

Just kidding it's actually kinda easy

[forest scaffold]

Auric: Less downtime after a player death, 16 specials per wave instead of 8

[flat pebble]

maelstrom is where kasrkin die

[south garnet]

my prime directives are clear and my mission parameters are locked in and confirmed

[forest scaffold]

those are the biggest differences between regular and auric

maelstrom is just auric but with no chains on it

no downtime after a player death, specials - specials everyfuckingwhere

and then all that on top of the mission modifiers

[lost portal]

Is it possible to edit them once posted? Or do I have to be on PC for that?

[gritty dock]

For general dynamic combat and fighting hordes, Savage Sweep + Rampage is best.
And for fighting single, dangerous and durable units, Bloodletter is very good.
He can actually kill almost any unit with one sawing action.

[south garnet]

@lost portal " The worst build in the game. A build so bad, that not only is your team down a player, but they’re up an enemy that that can’t be killed, spawns enemies constantly, jacks up the number of specials and elites, and couldn’t even fix the problem if they wanted to. Your talent and weapon choice is built to be as anti-synergistic as possible. You are a professional detriment to your team, and it’s literally their problem." absolutely inspired

[buoyant slate]

so did the cap on hte same special get lifted or is the higher specials per wave count meaning that the director is spamming the same kind of special more often?

[forest scaffold]

Got changed in carnival pt2

[flat pebble]

.

[buoyant slate]

because tripple trapper triad is happening more often than comfortable

[forest scaffold]

before it used to be that.

Where you'd just see 9 flamers

or 9 trappers

[lost portal]

I one day aspire to be a writer myself so I went all out for this one.

[forest scaffold]

in a row

[gleaming turtle]

Oh, okay, what about Chainaxes? Know anything there?

[forest scaffold]

Now they spawn intelligently in pairs

just more often

[gritty dock]

I mean the second set of missions, the one called gold, which you can switch to.

[serene sage]

nope, i don't like it

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, that's auric

[serene sage]

sorry 😄

[south garnet]

as someone who's been contracted to write under several publishers, I would bring you on

[buoyant slate]

oh okay, so instead of pure rng it's intentional pairs or trios for maximum fuck you

[flat pebble]

so the answer to his question is yes

[forest scaffold]

Auric: Less downtime after a player death, 16 specials per wave instead of 8

And this is how auric works

[lost portal]

Wait actually?

[south garnet]

yes lol

[lost portal]

Ain’t no way I’m about to get a headstart because of a shitpost

[flat pebble]

can you contact publishers to tell them i said wsup

[lost portal]

I’m dreaming

[flat pebble]

can you send them my novel, it’s two pages long, still in progress, and i’ve been working on it since 2011

[south garnet]

It's probably not the kind of writing you'd be interested in tbh

[flat pebble]

wesley works for a smut publisher unfortunately

[lost portal]

That’s a joke right?

[serene sage]

my chainsword

somehow i couldn't one shot rev heavy mutants without +maniacs

[flat pebble]

i don’t know what wesley does for work lol

[sour elbow]

oh baby. I should get this off melk just for the blessings right?

[south garnet]

no no, continue, this lore is better anyway

[alpine bear]

Oof

[flat pebble]

i bet you’d get along with my old coworker who used to work a desk job for a porn film business

he works in biotech now

california is wild

[south garnet]

That is the kind of combo that spurs my interest in people

[flint garden]

so does what blessings does chainaxe want? headtaker slaughterer?

[flat pebble]

he’s making literature for diabetics now after organizing when porn actors would get back shots

[south garnet]

Honestly I'm not a huge fan of writing under contract, it's incredibly stifling and stressful

[lost portal]

That’s a fucking wild chain of words

[serene sage]

this reminds me of the Emma Stone video hahaha

[flat pebble]

thrust/headtaker/slaughterer

[flint garden]

also is the new xii variant any good

[south garnet]

Luckily I don't write for work, just as a side hustle for extra cash and fun

[flat pebble]

the chsword?

[lost portal]

Yeah that probably wouldn’t be good given that I have no professional experience with it whatsoever

[sour elbow]

I think I'm really liking cleave blessings; makes killng crowds really easy when you get rushed.

[flint garden]

the new chaxe var

[flat pebble]

it’s fine

better single target worse horde clear

i don’t like it on vet personally but it might be okay on zealot, i feel like it struggles with horde clear on vet (i don’t run melee vet)

[sour elbow]

first chainaxe was awful on hordes though?

[south garnet]

You learn to, ideally, love editors for sure. Or you end up with a set of editors you really fucking hate and make you miserable and question the entirety of your self worth and wonder if you're living in a different reality or they are

Then there's the publisher themselves

[flat pebble]

have you used the heavies on a horde yet

because it’s not

[sour elbow]

I'll give it another go then

[flat pebble]

heavies are horde clear on the old chaxe, lights are for sparse groups or for stun locking a single target when you can’t get a heavy rev in

[south garnet]

In any case, I fully recommend pursuing writing - if not as a primary career, it's something that's relatively easy to dabble with and put into what you feel it's worth.
And for what it's worth, where you caught my personal eye on discord, I caught my first publisher's by making fun of his work (he used to be a writer) in front of his face

[strange crow]

Ignore me I thougth u said Chainsword

[south garnet]

stranger things have happened

[flat pebble]

what type of smut do you write

like specifically

is it like sci fi, historical fiction

[lost portal]

You have to have some knowledge of it to call it bad and be right don’t you?

[south garnet]

the kind with women named shit like ulla and frida

[strange crow]

Diocletian and Prisca fanfics is what Wesley writes abt

[south garnet]

Yea, that's what helped me out - I was right

Aside from the obvious point which is that I'm always right, I did it in the correct environment with the right timing

by accident

righteously

[flat pebble]

as a literature graduate, it’s very easy for me to see when a writer is bad. it’s when they remind me of my own work

[serene sage]

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.

[strange crow]

For me it's when they remind me of CS Goto 🤣

[lost portal]

The stars aligned so that would could talk shit and end up being PAID PAID I SWEAR TO GOD I MEANT PAID for it.

[flat pebble]

“bitch stop using so many adverbs” me, to myself

you ever get feedback from an editor that you use too many sentences that are structured dependent clause+comma+independent clause

[south garnet]

Anyway, I only partly write fiction - I actually used to write primarily film scripts, my only novels and short stories are unpublished. My more recent ventures are a mixture of technical writing, fiction and prose related to historical myth and legend

[flat pebble]

that’s a harsh specific piece of feedback

[lost portal]

Even better, since script writing is exactly what I dream of doing.

[south garnet]

editors think they know all the rules and it makes them very stupid. I on the other hand know everything and am thus very smart. Somewhere in the middle we each fix what the other thinks is wrong and eventually something gets published

[strange crow]

But isn't that bad bc what they think is wrong is actually right because they themselves are wrong?

[lost portal]

”You’re wrong and stupid. I’m right and still stupid. Let’s see if the stupid cancels out!”

[flat pebble]

rashuns?

[south garnet]

literally how it works lmao

[lost portal]

Two stupids is better than one

[flat pebble]

two wrongs don’t make a right but they do make a novel

[serene sage]

im stealing this

[south garnet]

and somehow the most obvious wrong shit will still make it through in at least 4-6 instances per 30-40k words lol

[lost portal]

That’s why you need 20 stupids

If at least ONE of them is right and can prove it you’re good.

[south garnet]

more than 2 editors on a single project makes me wish I were actually physically dead and buried

[lost portal]

So there’s a bell curve of stupid?

[weary acorn]

Maybe?

[lost portal]

At some point the stupid forms a singularity and just becomes wrong.

[south garnet]

it's sort of like the cooks in the kitchen analogy if the cooks were sweaty sticks of dynamite and the kitchen was a house on fire

[serene sage]

alright chat, which one should be my main weapon?

they are all good, i just need someone to pick one for me uwu

[south garnet]

the alternative to that is like if your socks were filled with bowling balls that were in turn filled with lead

[lost portal]

Fantastic

[flat pebble]

i’d prefer 1 with pf over shattering but you probably have more bolter experience in here than most so

[south garnet]

I'd do 2 but eh, they all look solid

[lost portal]

Anyways, Is it possible to edit them once posted? Or do I have to be on PC for that?

[flat pebble]

oh actually 3 with pf over shattering i guess

[serene sage]

Surgical PF kills everything but Carapace

you need a lot of bullets for Carapace

but you are not wrong

[flat pebble]

yeah i’ve taken to running a melee weapon that deals with crushers on bolter vet

[serene sage]

maybe I should do 1 for PF Shattering
1 for Surg PF
1 for Surg Shattering

and call it a day

[flat pebble]

pf surgical gives you a lot of breakpoints

i think that makes sense

[south garnet]

excuse me but I wasn't done typing - they all look solid SHIT! your HIGHEST is 377 base? are you out of your MIND? scrap these before your mom finds out

[flat pebble]

just have 3 different bolters lol

[serene sage]

truly 😔

[serene sage]

I mean im keepign all 3 haha

no point scrapping em

[flat pebble]

no i’m saying that as like, yeah, do that

it’s just funny to say out loud

[serene sage]

yeah lol

[flat pebble]

yeah have three lunchbox cannons bro

[mellow adder]

What is a better blessing than scattershot that I can replace on this?

[flat pebble]

no respite

end scene

[lost portal]

A tragedy in two messages.

[mellow adder]

Ah ty! No Respite IV is in Melk's today so gonna buy it just to learn it lol

[flat pebble]

hell ya we love to hear it

you want that combo on all three shotguns basically unless you’re doing a meme build

[lost portal]

Given today’s fruits? I’m not going to say anything.

[mellow adder]

tbh Melk has allot of good IV blessings for my veteran today

Should I buy just to learn this one?

[atomic zephyr]

nah

[flat pebble]

no not at all

[atomic zephyr]

don’t waste melkbucks on that

[flat pebble]

infantry lasguns just need deadly accurate and headhunter

[lost portal]

Okay so I learned literally just a second ago that I’ve been reading scattershot wrong.

[flat pebble]

other blessings are not worth it

[atomic zephyr]

just get a decent ish one from brunt

[mellow adder]

This one was pretty cheap and picked it up

[pulsar drift]

Is it easier to hit weakspot being taller?

[south garnet]

btw - related to writing, just in case any of you dorks are curious - take a look at this if you get the chance, which is practically a bible in several industries, for a series of incredible laughs

[flat pebble]

generally, sure

[pulsar drift]

Okay

[flat pebble]

sorry i already learned MLA that’s it for me

[pulsar drift]

Am mid tall now

[south garnet]

stuff like already-outdated things being discussed like dogecoin explained in the most laughably out of touch way possible

[pulsar drift]

Guess gotta change it

[mellow adder]

Just picked up the blessing and changed it!

[atomic zephyr]

now that’s good

[flat pebble]

that looks superb tbh

[mellow adder]

Still farming for Power Cycler 4 tho...

[atomic zephyr]

actually that’s perfect

ahhhh who needs pc4

[flat pebble]

it’ll happen sooner or later

just do the t4 blessing farm thing

[mellow adder]

I love shotgun sniping ❤️

[south garnet]

shotgun simping

:^)

I'm always on the lookout for potential phrases to coin to further divide and envenom the community

I bought this on a whim for no reason and now I don't know what to do with it

[mellow adder]

Crafted a few Combat Axes to diversify my Vet's arsenal and this was the best one I got. Is it Okay for a combat axe? new to them

[south garnet]

nice, though I'd rec headtaker or all or nothing (if you run deadshot) in place of limbsplitter

def not unusable

[mellow adder]

ah ty

[flat pebble]

thunderstrike to uncanny maniacs to… maniacs?

[south garnet]

Ha I know, right? That's along the lines of what was I was thinking, but then I thought "but another stack of SC if I upgrade"...

[flat pebble]

i don’t really know what the 7 needs

yeah sc 4 would be nice

you could just swap for 2 t4 blessings

[south garnet]

yea, at least I'm not stuck with infested or something

[junior rover]

alpha legionnaire detected

[flat pebble]

t2 maniacs is funny to see on a 380 though

[lost portal]

You touch someone with the shovel and they just explode

[south garnet]

FUCK I KNOW

[frank ether]

bruh the flamethrowers are outdamaging my vraks 7

[flat pebble]

if you change both blessings you will always be able to try out new combos on it

[frank ether]

its funny how many quickplay games end in flames lmao

[south garnet]

Yea good call, it'll be a workshop model

t2 maniac, fuckin,

[frank ether]

honestly just let me pay like Idk 10k plasteel and diamantine or something and remove all locks from a weapon

how hard is that

you get your player retention I get to preserve my sanity

[south garnet]

💸

[lost portal]

If they implement that I will suck whoever put it in good and hard through their jorts.

[frank ether]

Its rly fkin bizarre like

this is the only game that adds new content and doesnt let you try it out

[terse idol]

[flat pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-vacuuming-slurpvacuum-briankik-gif-26319223

[terse idol]

I'm putting my tinfoil hat on

But its to add player retention by making it so the grind is infinite

[languid escarp]

joins high intensity damnation mid game
sees teammates immediately split off, drawing agro from dormant enemies
alright next game

[terse idol]

Weaaak

[flat pebble]

sounds about right

[terse idol]

[frank ether]

thats the idea yes but its a dumb idea

it has the same vibes as

thanos killing half the universe to solve hunger

or whatever

[languid escarp]

I'm too noob to deal with an additional 20 something ragers when a hound horde was happening apparently

[frank ether]

Its more of a stopgap

than a solution

[compact briar]

git gud

[lost portal]

Not really, because it’s the hardcore players that are more likely to buy extra stuff.

[south garnet]

I like running into dog hordes

[lost portal]

”PUPPY!”
He then immediately took 140 points of corruption, costing him a wound a half, and dying instantly to the sniper in the next room.

[frank ether]

well not me because I fudged my mouse thanks to darktide constantly spawning stuff behind me

[compact briar]

should i scoop this from requisitions

[south garnet]

Like real dogs they act tough until you start manically shoving them around, screaming, and hurling grenades at the floor

[frank ether]

so my whale fomo money will be spent on a new mouse instead

[compact briar]

like obv i can still brick but its 377 and has decent attribution right?

[unreal bone]

Question since they fixed the charge rate affecting damage bug if Volatile a viable blessing for pguns?

[lost portal]

The fucken what bug?

[frank ether]

its fixed now so irrelevant

[unreal bone]

Up till the recent update Charge Rate affected damage of pguns

Check pins there has been a chart there forever

[lost portal]

Huh

[frank ether]

I guess good thing I didnt nuke my high roll plasma

I can upgrade those now

see what I get

[south garnet]

Don't worry the fix made them even weirder and buggier to use

[unreal bone]

Is volatile worth it now though?

[south garnet]

No idea

[flat pebble]

over gets hot and blaze away, no

not really

[unreal bone]

Cause I got this pgun and while it's not perfect it came with a natural t4 maniac perk which is really nice

[flat pebble]

you should really barely be using charged shots in the plasma

[unreal bone]

What if I like the funny charge shots? 😦

[toxic leaf]

yea i used charge shots to open on unaggro'd crushers and thas basically it

[unreal bone]

Plasma gun just feels dumb spamming left clicks 24/7

It's a plasma gun it should be charged mini-nuke shots.

[flat pebble]

then you should specify because the advice you get will be different to accommodate for off label use

[compact briar]

it 1shots gunners too

[south garnet]

They're useful for breaching thicker walls and lined up bulwarks

[compact briar]

if headshot

[flat pebble]

clinicians need to know you like charged shots

[unreal bone]

I like charged shots

[flat pebble]

i’ll let my clinical specialists know

[unreal bone]

Wym?

[flat pebble]

it’s off label use

i have to get doctor approval

[terse idol]

Well I mean its fine to right click too

[brisk sapphire]

I buy all really high greens even if it has a bad dump. They're more likely to get tier IV blessings and it saves plasteel when farming blessings

[terse idol]

The discussion on board becomes if you right click and something gets over killed you've wasted damage

Its why I'm trying so hard to get left click break points on gunners

[unreal bone]

I like to use a healthy amount of both but whenever I see something that takes more than 2 plasma left clicks

[flat pebble]

should ohk headshot scab gunners in a good roll anyway, and dreg gunners with unarmored

[unreal bone]

I like to right click them

like muties, ragers, crushers, maulers

the tough stuff

[terse idol]

Yeah then the discussion is balancing one shot left clicks and one shot right clicks

[flat pebble]

you’ll still probably be better off with blaze away and gets hot

but volatile is arguably fine in that case

[unreal bone]

I have a gets hot blaze away pgun I'm gonna make a volatile gets hot pgun and compare the difference.

Played with the gets hot blaze one for a WHILE

What other perk should I slap on this one?

[compact briar]

this doesnt ohko headshot any gunners with raw left click

is that because my blessings suck?

[terse idol]

I mean I'd argue gets hot can make some value with Volatile

[compact briar]

but its literally amx dmg

max*

[terse idol]

You could make value with enough TR to make blaze it worth too

But then you're still only hitting 3

[unreal bone]

What is TR?

[flat pebble]

hmmm i could have sworn i’ve heard it bps, maybe you need flak

[terse idol]

Thermal resistance

[flat pebble]

how much health is left?

[south garnet]

The primary reason people lmb spam over rmb on plasma is because rmb eats through WAY more ammo for less damage, not because it's useless or anything like that

[unreal bone]

What do you suggest I put on this pgun? I wanna slap volatile on it.

Obv don't wanna replace 4 star maniac perk lol

[flat pebble]

this is the reason for me, also spamming left clicks carries no risk relative to getting right clicks in there

[serene bough]

What shovel do we like the most vet chat

[compact briar]

being able to consistently 1tap enemies that otherwise fall down (sometimes behind cover) is a big deal to me

[south garnet]

Yep, no blowing up in a heated moment

[flat pebble]

original and 3 are both good

[south garnet]

eheheheheHAHAHAHAHA

[flat pebble]

plasma? cover?

[serene bough]

What about the 7

[compact briar]

like large boxes yes

you cant shoot through literally everything

[unreal bone]

What perk do I slap on this pgun vet chat? :c

[compact briar]

just most things

[terse idol]

I wouldn't slap volatile on something with thaat low TR imo

[flat pebble]

you can shoot through basically everything on a charge shot

[terse idol]

[flat pebble]

but i get you

[unreal bone]

It's just a temperorary pgun so I can experiment with volatile and see how the charge rate feels.

I might hate volatile and just go back to blaze away gets hot

I need to know what perk to put on it tho

[south garnet]

Plasma looks dorky therefore only dorks use it. I'm sorry but this is how it is

[terse idol]

Gets hot instead of volatile imo you'll be running very hot usually so it's more worth it

[flat pebble]

the explode animation is definitely somethin only a dork would do

throw it u dunderhead

[unreal bone]

Gloryhunter is useless for me so why not Volatile and Gets Hot which was my plan

[south garnet]

BWUHHH?

[flat pebble]

BOOM

[south garnet]

[unreal bone]

So what perk do I put on it @terse idol

[terse idol]

Because your thermal resistance is so low you may not be able to squeeze value out of volatile

[flat pebble]

check bps in meat grinder probably

[terse idol]

I'm mean thats my thought process

[unreal bone]

Check on what

[devout atlas]

what should I do with it?

[terse idol]

Because you'll get up to high over heat quickly

So volatile isn't worth it imo

[flat pebble]

to see what survives one shots with barely any health wdym what

like, check breakpoints

[devout atlas]

anyone?

[tall torrent]

I would change both perks tbh

[unreal bone]

k lemme check my shop rotations rq

[tall torrent]

The 2 perks u got are pretty bad

[strange crow]

Yo guys so can going for max crit chance vet with all the crit modifiers in the tree, +5% crit chance perk, and headhunter work at higher levels? I have basically the build setup rn all I need to do is rebless my Kantrael 1a (378 rated, everything is 79+ except mobility) or is that a waste?

[devout atlas]

ye, but to what? chaxe is kinda wack

the blessings are great tho

bloodletter goes hard

[flat pebble]

flak unarmored

[tall torrent]

I would check breakpoints personally

[flat pebble]

the new chaxe needs help with hordes imo

[tall torrent]

If flak unarmored doesn’t give u better bruiser breakpoints

I don’t know if they’re that worth it

[devout atlas]

hmm

[flat pebble]

the heavy kinda kills whatever you hit with it anyway