veteran-class

[karmic musk]

Gif ends a split second before the gun explodes

[robust mesa]

TRUE

Not gonna lie

When I first picked up the plas way back when

I had no concept of like peril off psyker

So I was steadily rising in percentages

And my first thought was

"THIS MUST BE MAX POWER PLASMA"

[obtuse raft]

Icarus

[raw steppe]

bleed shotty is pretty fun

[robust mesa]

My problem is, I didnt really use the shotty much

So I have little concept on what is bad and what is good

I like the flamey one though

[obtuse raft]

The slug shotgun is the only one I can get comfy with. I just feel naked without the ability to pop a distant special or gunner

[robust mesa]

Which one is the slug shotty

[raw steppe]

agri

[obtuse raft]

Slug special just to be clear

[robust mesa]

Is it special action for slugs/normal p

Ya

That

[raw steppe]

I think all the shotguns are pretty good now lol

[robust mesa]

I wish we could get the machine gun las the gunners have or the big auto guns

[obtuse raft]

Time to make a ogryn

Gun lugger gaming

[mystic belfry]

Gun lugger feels less bad now that you have an lmg that doesn’t feel awful to burst fire

[obtuse raft]

I will not stand for this gorgonzola slander.

[finite imp]

whats the meta blessings for devils claw

[obtuse raft]

Achyls is fun now but damn it still feels bad for armor without ult

[dusk idol]

rampage savage sweep

[finite imp]

ty

fuck i already have those lmaooo

welp this sword is done then

[royal brook]

Anyone have a pet build they use with the far left keystone (can't think of the name). I'd like to find a reason to use it, but most builds are better off just using those points somewhere else due to lack of consistency when it comes to that keystones value.

[finite imp]

the fuckin horde demolisher

[raw steppe]

I wouldn't use it unless it lets you hit a specific BP

I have it on my plasma shout build because that build hits a few 1shot BPs with marksman

But ye keystoneless is better in some cases cuz you can take more generic nodes

[ebon umbra]

god i cant believe im saying i might miss my nodes

[finite imp]

is uncanny strike good on shuvul

[ebon umbra]

yes

[sudden dome]

Fighting ragers with the devils claw makes you feel amazing. Assuming you dont die

[junior needle]

Yes, it's generally the top recommended blessing

next to decimator

[finite imp]

Parry muahahah

[sudden dome]

Ive been doing heresy runs and spending time in the meatgrinder but the best I can do is 3 at a time and I usually get hit atleast once

[finite imp]

I should just rebind block to parry

[tall torrent]

u don't need to

[finite imp]

Spam parry

[sudden dome]

not comfortable going to damnation and trying it out yet

[tall torrent]

u can press parry while blocking and keep ur guard up the entire time

[finite imp]

Wym

But I don't block

I just paryy

🙂

[tall torrent]

wouldn't that mess with other weapons' specials

[finite imp]

Yes

Lzolz

Have to remind when I change back

[sudden dome]

is there a way to actually lower your impact? fighting them would be alot faster if they didnt stagger on parry

[finite imp]

Rebind

[tall torrent]

why do u not want to stagger melee enemies

[sudden dome]

if i could spam parry against ragers they would die in like 2 hits not 5

[tall torrent]

I can get why stagger on ranged enemies can be a bad thing but melee I don't understand

[finite imp]

You deff should want to stagger ragers

[finite imp]

My brother

I have been playing damnation for ages

[raw steppe]

you can drag your mouse upwards to the right

[finite imp]

I spam parry with very little actual timing

It works

[raw steppe]

because it has a massive weakspot modifier

[sudden dome]

no no i mean they keep attacking me so i can keep parrying them

[raw steppe]

so if you hit the head, fighting them goes much faster

[sudden dome]

instead of them staggering and getting a seccond attack anyway

with my current sword I need to parry twice to kill them anway

[finite imp]

You should stop parrying and swing during openings

But when they try to clap back

Back to turtle

[sudden dome]

I do, which is why its 5 hits I get 3 in between 2 parries

but 2 parries already kill them

if they hit the head

[finite imp]

I don't see the issue

Am I dumb

[sudden dome]

so if they kept attacking instead of staggering i could kill them faster

[finite imp]

Oh you want to just

[sudden dome]

because the attacks are worthless

[finite imp]

Ok

Wait

Parry attacks are worthless?

[sudden dome]

2 parries kill them

no the othe rattacks

[finite imp]

Oh I mean

[tall torrent]

he means lights

[finite imp]

I guess

[tall torrent]

and yea DC sword lights are miserable in dmg

[finite imp]

You're still facing down a line of ragers with a melee and coming out alive

[orchid musk]

My play pattern is fairly simple: p-sword the hordes. Krak and plasma the annoying stuff. Shout when needed.

[sudden dome]

Im using mk1 and the heavies arent enough to kill it inbetween

[finite imp]

That's something alot of players can't exactly tout

[tall torrent]

how many ragers are u usually fighting at a time

[sudden dome]

I can reliably kill 2 without getting hit, 3 is my issue I usually get hit during a dodge

or just die

[finite imp]

Lol in damnation I have fought down and clutched a group of like 12

[tall torrent]

because I can see no-stagger helps in killing like 2 ragers faster?
but with higher difficulty rager spam it's very very useful

[finite imp]

My pubbies were like jesus

[tall torrent]

u need stagger for the breathing room

[sudden dome]

I litearlly started doing this today

[finite imp]

KATANA MAN

Patience then young padawan

What sword you using anyhow I mean what blessings

[sudden dome]

havent gotten anything worth using yet its just hammer blow or the crit chance one

[tall torrent]

also the DC swords u want are mk4 / 7
mk1 heavy sweeps don't do as high dmg on single targets

[sudden dome]

dont want to spend alot on a worthless one

[finite imp]

I wonder if a 20 percent rager perk would help your issue

[tall torrent]

DC swords u want rampage + savage sweep

blessings

[finite imp]

Yeah I posted mine earlier

It's pretty sick

[sudden dome]

probably would kill it before the second attack, also I keep forgetting to shout which would probably make 3 alot easier

[raw steppe]

you can also use your gun

[finite imp]

No

[sudden dome]

the whole point of the exercise is to not use the gun

its not as cool

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/608796062530011348/993660102756290560/bark.gif

[sudden dome]

Ive tried the mk 4 didnt like its heavies but I understand the damage is better, mk7 has worse clearing of basic mobs than the mk1s sweeps

[mystic belfry]

Claw sword 4 and power sword 6 are both capable of being full melee with no gun use pretty well

[tall torrent]

there's always the option of bayonet stabbing ragers
u can fight like 12 at the same time and be fine lol

[sudden dome]

maybe when I go full Krieger

[mystic belfry]

Yo can fight twelve ragers with either of the melee I mentioned

You could also use bayonet, tax axe, or shovel

The latter two because of stagger

[tall torrent]

tac axe has prob the safest melee stagger in the entire game

[modern crescent]

me walking up to three crushers because i main atrox 4 tacaxe

[sudden dome]

the best way to do it for 3 Ive found is get 1 into its melee then dodge back to seperate all of them then its just 3 one on ones

[raw steppe]

taxe very underrated lol

gud weapon

[uncut ore]

which recon lasgun space FMAS is the better?

[limber egret]

hey question so when you stack brittleness on enemy do they start counting as unarmoured enemies?

[civic bay]

Can Tac Axe do anything about Bulwarks from the front?

[tall torrent]

just skip all of them

[mystic belfry]

Krak plasma

Quick draw revolver and bash

[tall torrent]

no but u can special on the sides (their right hands work) and break defense

[sudden dome]

I had to swap to the bleed nades to get the extra 25 toughness

[tall torrent]

and tac axes have good dodge distance to do that

[mystic belfry]

Tacs are similar to knife dodge ye

[junior needle]

They're all in the dumpster right now, literally all of them are varying levels of bad. I recommend avoiding them until they get buffs, which may (possibly) happen next patch. If it does, nobody knows which will be better yet.

[civic bay]

I was in a particular part of the map (one of the trains) where going around wasn't an option so the Tac Axe and lack of CC let me down in that one run haha

[tall torrent]

shovel needs head hit on special to break bulwark
tac axe doesn't need specifically head

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024858134600233030/1087885820591091782/ezgif.com-gif-maker-1.gif

[limber egret]

hey so when you add brittleness stacks on enemies do they start counting as unarmored enemies?

[civic bay]

team dead with one behind the bulwark, tac axe, autogun, and knives because I was on Zealot qqqqq

[mystic belfry]

No it just reduces their armor damage reduction

[civic bay]

if only I was on Vet, I could have just grenaded

[mystic belfry]

Iirc zealot charge does actually reduce enemy armor type

[uncut ore]

any of my guns seem like a real standout to anyone, genuinely asking been a hot min since I played vet

[limber egret]

oh ok so i was thinking of replacing the perk where i get 20% extra damage to unarmored enemies

[civic bay]

it's hard to say without seeing the stats/blessings

oh wait you can see blessings

[sudden dome]

just run plasma doesnt matter whats on it

[junior needle]

Brittleness/rending reduces the damage reduction to an armor type (unarmored in an armor type) that your weapon has up to 100%. After 100%, it applies a damage boost in 1/4 the amount.

Some weapons have a negative modifier to unarmored, and so can feasibly benefit from rending for that too. They both also counter damage falloff from range..

[tall torrent]

ratings don't matter as much as specific stat rolls, perks and blessings

[uncut ore]

this one is my go-to fav

but how is this plasma gun?

[tall torrent]

low dmg is oof

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-no-idea-gif-27149353

It's fine

[junior needle]

Damage is quite low and you want to avoid crit (perk) on it, flak is not useful on a properly roll one last I checked

[uncut ore]

I'll take it as an oof, not my fav gun anyways

[civic bay]

questionable on the plasma gun, pretty good on the autogun

[finite imp]

Don't listen to them it's a great plasma

[sudden dome]

wait wait wait you can constantly parry an attacking one but attack another so if you ahve one at your side you can easily kill the other two

[tall torrent]

it's not that bad but it's pretty far from a perfect roll

[uncut ore]

idk i'll swich yet the mk1 is still my fav

[sudden dome]

crit perk isnt bad you can ignore alot of the 25% damage stuff if you crit instead

[finite imp]

When in parrying I want as Many attacks to be coming at me as possible

[tall torrent]

plasma crit multiplier is not that high

[civic bay]

the thing is that you can get away with pretty far below min-max

[junior needle]

It's unreliable, which is the issue. Also you get quite a lot of crit from gets hot, so the 5% isn't much in comparison.

[sudden dome]

doesnt matter its 40% more damage which lets you one shot alot of things you coudnt without going for the 25% damage type

[tall torrent]

I would swap punishing salvo out for stripped down

[sudden dome]

you I thoguht the gets hot was what you meant thought we were talking about blessings

[uncut ore]

ive got some spare space bucks

im gonna try and roll a plasma

[junior needle]

I was talking about the crit perk, you also said crit perk

[tall torrent]

it's a low multiplier on a random chance dmg buff, not good lol

[civic bay]

I actually kinda like Punishing Salvo as long as the gun doesn't shoot too fast

[sudden dome]

alright then Im jsut dumb

[tall torrent]

for a gun that just really wants to 1 tap everything u don't want to rely on RNG as to whether it can 1 tap or not

[civic bay]

can shoot in controlled bursts of 4 for an average *10% damage boost per shot

oh but it's weaker on autogun 🤔

[finite imp]

So which DC sword is best one

[uncut ore]

this is the best I rolled lets hope hadron is in a good mood today

[tall torrent]

I think u want 73% charge rate on plasma specifically

[sudden dome]

wasnt that changed?

yea it has nothing to do with damage just attack speed

[uncut ore]

this is uhhh, not awfull

[slow spade]

Blaze 3 is max so you're good on that

[uncut ore]

what should I change?

[tall torrent]

it still affects dmg in a weird way

[slow spade]

Changing perks would be most consistent

Gets Hot 4 is only like 2% crit per stack different at best

[sudden dome]

wasnt it unarmored and flak

for gunner break points

[slow spade]

You always one shot kill on head in my experience

[plush kernel]

just had a bot trigger a host

wtf

[slow spade]

So unarmored is unnecessary

[uncut ore]

which is better then shatterring impact or gloryhunter?

[slow spade]

Flak and maniac/unyielding is what I did

[slow spade]

Shattering impact but its only helpful vs bosses

[sudden dome]

just go into the meat grinder and try it out against things, see what it doesnt light charge head shot with your build and go from them

[slow spade]

Gloryhunter is largely unneeded due to Confirmed Kill, Exhil Takedown, and Target Down

[slow spade]

Yeah they do that...

[sudden dome]

just being lore accurate, killing the host is more important than the mission

[raw steppe]

no lol

unarmored/flak is like... for fresh 30s who have poorly statted guns

you can easily hit gunner BPs using the tree

[finite imp]

anyone run DC/rev?

[dusk idol]

used to

[gusty sonnet]

It's like a 2% variance apparently, not that important

[raw steppe]

then you can grab maniac+25% for body crit oneshots on flamers, and non-crit headshots on flamers

[dusk idol]

switched to chainsword though

why

[raw steppe]

it's actually like a 97% to 103% swing iirc

[finite imp]

wantin some buidl advice

[raw steppe]

pretty signficant

[dusk idol]

yeah what’s up

[finite imp]

dont spose you have a pic of your build when you did that

[dusk idol]

same build but i’m still in bed lol

[finite imp]

gotcha

[junior needle]

It's pretty important when your gun does hundreds of damage, the difference between 73% charge and 65% charge is 37 damage

[finite imp]

what branch do you prim

[slow spade]

Simply be lucky and crit

[dusk idol]

I went middle and diverged left occasionally only for range damage and shredders

[slow spade]

5% base crit? Means a 100% crit rate for me as I'm simply not unlucky UwU

[dusk idol]

didn’t waste points on reload speed or exhil takedown

[junior needle]

That's definitely enough to make or break breakpoints by itself, it's worth quite a few points of damage/stopping power

[dusk idol]

revolver likes it but doesn’t need it to work well

[raw steppe]

the couple of percent is actually huge for hitting the 1-shot gunner breakpoint without having to significantly invest lol; I think it's actually possible to hit 1-shot both gunners without any perk or keystone investment

[finite imp]

deadshot?

[gusty sonnet]

I'm pretty sure it still doesnt impact breakpoints with that variance, but hey you're free to grind for that 73

[raw steppe]

if you have 80/80 dmg/stopping and perfect charge rate

[dusk idol]

yeah dead shot and precision strikes

I didn’t pick up keystones

[finite imp]

my man

[raw steppe]

^^^ #veteran-class message

[dusk idol]

picked up ogryn dmg and elite dmg

[merry terrace]

I need opinions, Best melee on veteren

[dusk idol]

helps you get the reaper one shot headshots

[slow spade]

Chainaxe 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[ember coyote]

Does anyone else headcanon that the Cadian option for our character is angry and upset not because he is filled with righteousness and zealotry but because he blames himself for not dying at Cadia?

[finite imp]

tink?

[ember coyote]

Power Sword

[slow spade]

Na I headcanon that Abaddon only won at Cadia because I wasn't there

[dusk idol]

don’t think I used it with the shredder

[slow spade]

Simple as

[dusk idol]

makes no difference on them for the bleed

only the explosion

[ember coyote]

Based

[finite imp]

wait you took ogryn and superiority complex?

[dusk idol]

mhm

[finite imp]

scav?

[dusk idol]

yeah

[finite imp]

rending strike?

[dusk idol]

no

lemme take a dump then I’ll hop on

[finite imp]

kk

i think i got what you did

[ember coyote]

Charming

[finite imp]

i have one extra point tho

[junior needle]

How do you link messages like this?

[finite imp]

#veteran-class message

[dusk idol]

what does your build look like atm?

[finite imp]

copy message link

[ember coyote]

followed by what you want

[raw steppe]

be very very very cool #veteran-class message

[ember coyote]

Wait

Wtf

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

Oh, it shortens the url

I thought that'd be it but got a link in the text box

[raw steppe]

ye it's actually very interesting

[raw steppe]

because implementing that in code behind the hood

there's a few different ways to do it

[ember coyote]

Do we know what the new update for Veteran's skilltree will look like?

[junior needle]

Not yet

[dusk idol]

do you want to use kraks?

[finite imp]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[ember coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[junior needle]

There's a possibility the patch is dropping tomorrow

[finite imp]

PROOF?

[dusk idol]

if you’re using kraks you can avoid ogryn dmg and ability modifier and put points elsewhere

[tall torrent]

I'm expecting patch16 to also bring abt big weapon changes

[dusk idol]

like extra nades or range dmg talent

[finite imp]

dope

[nimble sentinel]

I think we've been promised a return to recons?

[junior needle]

Something something the last time a patch dropped it was teased late in the previous week and dropped the next tuesday

[dusk idol]

going extra nades gives you more crit chance and range dmg is range dmg

[junior needle]

No hard evidence

[dusk idol]

can’t go wrong with it

[tall torrent]

only playtester hints

[finite imp]

i took plus 5 melee damage and crit

[nimble sentinel]

I KNOW YOU HAVE THOSE VIDEOS READY SOLDIER

[junior needle]

I'm not a playtester

[gusty sonnet]

recon crit string set to 3. Take it or leave it - ObeseFish

[nimble sentinel]

I mean of the recons being shite

[dusk idol]

yeah try it out and just tweak it to how you like it

[finite imp]

wait there's a 10% boost

i took that instead

[dusk idol]

kk

[junior needle]

Oh yes, I'm always ready to post them

[nimble sentinel]

I really hope recon comes back stronk

not counting on it, but hopium is being huffed

[finite imp]

we got hope at home

hope at home"

:

[junior needle]

I'll believe it when I see it

Perhaps I'll be surprised and have hotshot volley gun at home until the real one drops

But actually useable budget volley gun

[umbral scaffold]

is it only me or the only chanale i join, even in missions is the morningstar

[junior needle]

Try repairing your client, I had a similar issue and that fixed it for me

[umbral scaffold]

if i may

wth dose it mean to repair my client

[junior needle]

Right click on the game in your steam library>properties>installed files>verify integrity

It will check your game data for any issues

[toxic echo]

anyone got a sexy agrip shotgun ?

[ruby fulcrum]

Full bore + no respite, very good

[slow spade]

Um give me a sec got to find some lingerie

[ruby fulcrum]

I'd send a picture but I'm at work

[limber egret]

hey question so this perk says 33% crit hit chance per stack

so is this basically 100% crit hit chance while its active?

[hybrid river]

Yes but only for one shot

[tall torrent]

Only first shot

[limber egret]

ahh rip

[tall torrent]

It’s good for revolver

[raw steppe]

it's very very strong lol

[vague bison]

what ranged weapon is good for veteran?

[median belfry]

is there a reason not to use the plasma as a sniper rifle instead of the helbore? (coolness factor aside)

[vague bison]

i choosed power sword mk3 with plasma gun

[hybrid river]

Plasma, revolver, and helbore mk3 are the big 3

Columnus infantry autogun is also very strong

[limber egret]

so what about this perk?

is 20% power extra damage?

[tall torrent]

That’s +20% damage, stagger & cleave

[limber egret]

oh ok

thanks for info

[brisk sapphire]

Helbore has like infinite ammo if built for it

Plasma can struggle with ammo

[tall torrent]

Helbore practically never runs out of ammo
Plasma makes you hog ammo like a goblin

[median belfry]

🤔 tru, tru.

[tall torrent]

And helbore is more efficient in killing a lot of things

Depends on which variant u use

[spark helm]

You interested in some...infantry lasguns?

[slow spade]

Plasma ammo is a non-issue if you simply move faster than your team 💪💪💪

[crystal dust]

Yes plasma go brrr

[sudden dome]

not true, you just take more ammo than you normally would as a vet

I usually need like 3-4 tins but I take more because people leave it behind and dont need it

[vague bison]

lol

power sword mk3 is better with sunder and wrath or sunder and rampage?

[tall torrent]

what difficulties are u mainly playing

[tall torrent]

u have to have power cycler, then either brutal momentum or sunder

[crystal dust]

I miss when Bolter went BRRR

[vague bison]

why power cycler?

[tall torrent]

gives u extra charged attacks
base is 1 attack after power up
Power cycler 3 gives u 2 strikes
Power cycler 4 gives u 3 strikes

[vague bison]

oh

[sudden dome]

damnation if Im not trying things out, I do heresy for the scriptures and if i want to do more melee than plasma

as in run up to things and hit them instead of plasmaing specials

which I cant afford to do in damnation

[tall torrent]

The issue with plasma is that survivalist refills you 1% of reserve ammo which plasma doesn’t get a lot
There’re just way too many things to shoot at in aurics for you to not become an ammo goblin with plasma

You essentially take survivalist to keep your team topped up so you can afford to grab ammo stacks

[sudden dome]

well if youre shooting everything yea but there are other people, trust them a little or Im sure theyll understand you taking all the ammo if youre doing all the shooting of specials/elites

[tall torrent]

Being an ammo goblin as in you take most of the ammo stacks / ammo bags lol

Helbore barely needs ammo stacks or bags

[finite imp]

just had a dude sit at the bottom of the scoreboard saying were all trash and to stop running off lmao

im like dude you're the only one running off the scoreboard tracks coherency

[weak venture]

One time I saw an ogryn take 3 ammo stacks from a ammo crate whenever he hit yellow ammo

Stubber ogryn*

[tall torrent]

Helbore u can run entire missions not taking a single ammo stack and still being like 75-80% full on reserve at the end

[weak venture]

I have the mods that show the exact stacks and exact amount of ammo they had too

[tall torrent]

As long as u have survivalist

[finite imp]

petty mod lmfao

[weak venture]

Nah it's the standard Ui mod

[tall torrent]

And if you’re a helbore 3 surgical + shock troop vet you basically forget ammo stacks existed

[finite imp]

i love it when players whine and complain about the team and don't expect one of us to have a scoreboard

like actually i have receipts my dude

[tall torrent]

There’re 2 kinds of Ogryn players:

1. Really wholesome tanks that do their jobs well and carry
2. T’au spy

[finite imp]

he got thrown off the map by a chaos spawn. hella karma

[weak venture]

Idk how people play the game without mods

[spark helm]

I'll scoop shit up just about always. I'll ping and mention it in text and voice. Once mostly.

The ammo is mine and going into goons so we can clear. 🙂

[weak venture]

But I think the most cheaty mod is the healthbar mod

[finite imp]

he bitched that I was being useless with my sword while he's fire a ciag into a melee engagement with the spawn

like bro

pull out your gd shovel

that was the worst part he had a shovel

amazing defense weap

[spark helm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[finite imp]

not using it lmao

[weak venture]

Shovels increase the satisfaction of gameplay

Wanna know why

it takes more hits to kill

[finite imp]

yes

lol

[weak venture]

therefore increases the length of the gameplay loop

[finite imp]

makes sense

[weak venture]

Therefore more fun

[spark helm]

If anything it's so good at crowd control

[finite imp]

brb gonna go run a grey shovel

[weak venture]

[spark helm]

If melk drops me a good one. Fine.

[placid solstice]

I had a flamer zealot take 3 stacks from an ammobox i deployed during one single horde engagement, then yelled at me on mic to kill a sniper while i was using a brauto lol

[spark helm]

I've already been hurt by that man last week

[tall torrent]

I’m afraid the new vet shovel won’t be as good in stagger

They said foldable shovel so the weapon special probably swaps its modes

Turn into folded for big overhead dmg

[finite imp]

it probably has amazing armor pierce

[tall torrent]

But no more free stagger on weapon special

Could be a problem

[spark helm]

I mean whatever it is if I like it ill use it.

[tall torrent]

Unless it does phenomenal stagger on top of big dmg in folded mode

[finite imp]

i just hope the new revolver isn't overtuned or the haters are going to kick my door down

[spark helm]

Revolvers should feel powerful. Idk. /shrug

[finite imp]

thats what im saying

im literally giving up every stat for damage

give me the damage

[spark helm]

I'm extremely bias to them but that's because so many revolvers in games I've played don't have that kind of delivery

[weak venture]

Flamer feels so underwhelming 95% of the time, idk why people use it

[spark helm]

Darktide has a really good one. Bonus points it's also really good right now

[placid solstice]

Flamers were good like a year ago

[spark helm]

I don't even use the thing that much but I love that shit.

[finite imp]

i told that toxic ass to sit down and stfu i think he alt f4'd tho cuz he never showed up on the mourningstar with me

[weak venture]

Agripp Shotgun feels the best for a melee focused Zealot

[spark helm]

I haven't used the shotguns enough lately.

[finite imp]

i saw an amazing shotgun zealot today

[weak venture]

Agripp knocks down elites in such a fast fashion that it just matches the play style

[spark helm]

Mhm

[weak venture]

Agripp is a fucking SNIPER RIFLE

[finite imp]

he would pull it out and use the blast as part of his melee combos

[topaz lance]

I want it to be good again

[weak venture]

Agripps actually take care of snipers

[placid solstice]

Flamer limits ranged options too much imo

[finite imp]

like no shit mid melee combo pulls out shotgun for a quick blast

[spark helm]

As one should. Gunkata.

[finite imp]

back to it

https://tenor.com/view/woah-mind-blown-climax-wow-shookt-gif-7187923

i was like

[spark helm]

Zealot is explosive as fuck

It's great.

[obtuse raft]

Pox walkers are very very scary 😰

[topaz lance]

you can take knives with it

[placid solstice]

Anytime i pick a flamer i always miss the option of shooting a specialist/shooter just out of reach

True

[finite imp]

its like when you buy a car and you start seeing other cars that are your own make and model more

[south garnet]

I've had a couple matches where I've asked people if they remembered to bring guns or not

pubs are just baffling sometimes

[gritty dock]

Is there any Munitorum Sapper Shovel expert here who can help?
Is a shovel like this worth buying from Melk's?
And what are the best Blessings for Shovel?

[sudden dome]

cant you chain all or nothing with that sprint perk to get a stupid amount of damage on melee start? and then decimator will come in after the sprint 25% damage wears off

[gritty dock]

Does anyone know how All or Nothing works?

[sudden dome]

I mean it says on the thing, at 0 stamina you get 40% power, at 100% youll probably get 0 and inebtween percents for the rest like 50% gives 20

[flint garden]

like waste your stam with pushes or sprint and now you do more damage

[spark helm]

Anyone actually knee deep in zealot gameplay able to explain why the throwing knives could be a move?

[hushed sparrow]

Oi lads, what are some cosmetics you would like for the veteran? (Aside from standard issue Cadian gear, because we alllllll want that)

[spark helm]

Only thing I can think of is just having fun throwing knives.

Which, when I'm in the mood I'm down for it. But if I'm not going hard into right tree, I usually ignore it. Don't care if I get hit with the extra points to move elsewhere.

[hushed sparrow]

You're not in the zealot chat lol

[calm prairie]

arlo thomasson

or whatever his name is

[calm prairie]

cover vet guy

[calm prairie]

the goat

[hushed sparrow]

I want it too but without the gear it would be silly

[strange crow]

So guys, question about the Field Improvisation talent, if you drop a medkit when using it can the medkit return wounds completely taken by corruption, or can it only restore partially-corrupted wounds?

[spark helm]

I still asked my question. Plenty of people play between the classes and know stuff I usually ignore. Safe bet.

[midnight mortar]

It's only on a per wound basis.

So healing within 1 wound bar only.

[spark helm]

Dumped it in the zealot chat anyway

[hushed sparrow]

You want his helmet I take it?

[leaden musk]

Big arlo

[calm prairie]

yes but his armor is nice too

[midnight mortar]

At this point, I fear Fatshark being lazy with the cosmetics and ruining it somehow a la Krieg.

[calm prairie]

it actually has gloves that cover the wrists

[hushed sparrow]

Im glad he has a name, how do you know it?

[calm prairie]

I think hes called arlo in the psykanium during the tutorial

but his chest piece has that name in the files

[strange crow]

Also this

[hushed sparrow]

I just need this helmet but don't have the cash rn.

[strange crow]

Lol I got the helmet, just waiting for them to remake the coat so it actually looks like the OG steel legion

[hushed sparrow]

The length I take it?

[midnight mortar]

Don't hold your breath. Fatshark's cosmetic system doesn't seem to allow for one piece's model to extend into another's for animation purposes.

It's why any rebreather tubes they've started adding are all limited to the head. And why coattails for trench coats never extend past the knees.

[strange crow]

It's mostly that they got rid of the characteristic triangular coat clasps, the length is fine imo but I wish it would cover the center of the legs more

[untold mulch]

MY BOIS

[strange crow]

Also I'd much rather have the Steel Legion's classic Y-strap harness

[hushed sparrow]

I'm glad that there are people committed to the guard's aesthetics and details. Part of the reason I love darktide so much lol

[strange crow]

Well tbf Steel Legionnaire trenchcoats aren't supposed to go past the knee and the respirator box was placed behind the head for the helmet so accurate Steel Legion seems doable to me

[finite imp]

does hand cannon only drop on 2nd blessing or something??? sheesh

trickshooter trickshooter trickshooter trickshooter trickshooter

[quaint valve]

New update tomorrow morning right?

[finite imp]

that'd be cool

how bout they UPDATE the drop rates on blessings

[calm prairie]

I dont think a dates been confirmed but we could see it this thursday with a game awards trailer

or next thursday with shop rotation

[quaint valve]

Someone said usually 3 days after the video breakdown gets posted which would be tomorrow

but nothing confirmed of course

[calm prairie]

edited cuz assuming dates with fatshark is never safe lmao

[hushed sparrow]

Wot?

[finite imp]

They

They're making grenade tinkerer give you stun immunity again

[untold mulch]

IT HAS A CHANCE, not confirmed

[obtuse raft]

Only speculation at this point

[next spade]

which are best blessings on autoguns?

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[finite imp]

TUESDAY

[quaint valve]

Big MAYBE

[finite imp]

TUESDAY

NEW GUN TIME

MERRY CHRISTMAS

[sharp ember]

THE EMPEROR WILLS IT

[obtuse raft]

I don't even care if the yeehaw revolver is bad I'm using the hell out of it.

[final girder]

PAIN

[untold mulch]

I hope Recon no longer sucks

[swift ingot]

Same

[finite imp]

Don't see why it would

Revolver is already powerful

[swift ingot]

But I know damn well that that heavy Laspistol is going to slap so goddamn hard

That’s what I’m most excited for personally

[obtuse raft]

Well if it loses important breakpoints I could easily see it being a lot less useful.
If you need to shoot twice for everything the extra RoF and reload aren't as helpful

[untold mulch]

FR

[obtuse raft]

And you lose a lot of the reason revolver is so great

[finite imp]

Think we'll get new blessings?

[swift ingot]

Screw bps in wanna be a cowboy

[obtuse raft]

Exactly lol

[finite imp]

I want an even heavier revolver

Made of antimatter

[swift ingot]

I was frothing at the mouth when I first saw this shit

[finite imp]

Shame it's still 5 shot

6 is the cowboy number

[obtuse raft]

Top break revolvers ♥️
Speedloaders 😍

[idle carbon]

the current one is top break too

[obtuse raft]

Yep

[untold mulch]

Depleted Uranium rounds

Wait thats normal Revolver

[next spade]

which armor type is the burster?

[obtuse raft]

Does make me wonder if the downside is going to be that you can't partial reload and it's speedloader only

[swift ingot]

The revolver is legit a .500 magnum

[obtuse raft]

So you dump rounds

[obtuse raft]

#ogryn-class message

This is really useful for looking up all the different armor hitzones

[swift ingot]

It’s infested

[idle carbon]

think this shovel can be used? there seems to be a lot of back and forth on which blessings should be used

[next spade]

ty
Im really tempted to put maniac damage on my autogun
carapace dosnt make sense as i dont hit any crushers with it

[junior needle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[next spade]

although dealing with bursters and dogs could also be very good, bursters feel like they take a bit too long to down

[gritty dock]

I'd like to add to the question: Does anyone know which Blessings are best for a shovel?

[idle carbon]

I've heard decimator/uncanny strike
or take a swing/limbsplitter

among others

[junior needle]

I'd consider take a swing and especially limbsplitter to be questionable

Decimator and uncanny is typically the recommended. If you have rending already you can go skullcrusher/deci

[alpine bear]

The mobility is a bit oof but pretty decent

[obtuse raft]

If it were me I'd probably just change the perks and send it. I'm sure there are better blessing combos but that's gonna work just fine I think.

[idle carbon]

it's got the extra dodge, that's all I care about tbh

[swift ingot]

Mobility is a dump stat anyways

[idle carbon]

ah, hadron also gave me this, much better
now to sit and wait on my hands for uncanny strike, I don't have any tier of that lol

[gritty dock]

What do you think about this shovel, is it worth it?
It is available at Melk's.

[idle carbon]

probably fine, replace all or nothing with uncanny strike, and horde with flak

[finite imp]

I'm really tempted to just become a maniac

Hey what's that mountain dew ninja blender capsule they got on their backs anyhow

That juice seems good

[junior needle]

Plague juice

[pulsar drift]

If I am only able to chose between maniac and flak on power sword

[swift ingot]

Nurgle’s famous gumbo

[finite imp]

Oh cool I thought it was like stimm juice

[pulsar drift]

Which one to choose

[finite imp]

We're gonna have stimm juice soon

I wonder if we'll get custom voice lines for taking stims

That would be sick

I want cutthroat vet to just start laughing maniacally when he takes a damage stim

[bleak dirge]

finally on my pc again, so 3rd upgrade on this so far, and i think hadron has decided to bless me, were so back

[idle carbon]

speaking of power swords, I've heard that Sunder might be in vogue? or is it still brutal momentum?

[pulsar drift]

No idea

so far I have never gotten any good sunder rolls

In terms of personal oponion

As long as a power sowrd gets a PC4

[sudden dome]

slaughterer for chaff brutal momentum if you are just going to dodge in and out of combat while charging it?
I dont even know what you need increased cleave for when energized

you pretty much kill everything you touch

[junior grail]

I will note, I miss shanking a pox burster with a bayonet to push it, now it just blows up in my face

[swift ingot]

I love that I can use the knife punch that the Ogryn has and it sends em farther back than a push

[ancient path]

is this a change coming to all revolvers?

[ancient path]

if its just the fan the hammer one and it keeps the same damage profile then yikes

[junior needle]

Take a look at that

[ancient path]

welcome to even more of a revolver meta

[junior needle]

The first target damage application is just leagues better than anything slaughter or rampage can offer

None of them will outright let you kill multiple full health bruisers in a swing

[slow spade]

its you, the biggest nerd

[serene sage]

No u

[slow spade]

:p

[serene sage]

I'm sick. I can't kill heretics tonight

[slow spade]

I've been shitting up his discord server with constant darktide convos lol

poor SOAB

[serene sage]

Idk who he is but poor lad

[slow spade]

indeed

he's a nerd

[serene sage]

I guess now would be the best time to be a nerd

If you have to be a nerd

I am not a nerd

Of course

But if I was, I would choose right now to be one

[slow spade]

when we stop having to ping SOBA to kick the hamster wheel servers, I'll stop calling him a nerd

[trim steppe]

I'd take that, All or Nothing is one of the best in slot blessings for one of the shovels 2 builds. Either go for it or strip it to use on another shovel, either way its worth picking up

[slow spade]

wow that's a pretty good shovel

a shame the perks are bad

[serene sage]

Idk anything about shovel so I will say it's a good shovel

[junior needle]

All or Nothing is one of the best in slot blessings for one of the shovels 2 builds

I need to see it to believe it

[serene sage]

Yeah same

What he said

[trim steppe]

All or nothing + take a swing, you get crazy power for just push attacking everything

[slow spade]

keep in mind that bursters have a 30x multiplier to explosive, you can also "attempt" to hit their weakspot

my go to for autoguns is to use DumDum to build up damage and then just aim for head

Columbus has the funny crit chain + DumDum stacks leads to super fast burster kills

[torpid fractal]

Anyone else feel like there's something weird with the helbore mk3 firing? Like sometimes I swear I've lifted off, clicked down, and no charge starts and no input, no problem with either of the other two helbores

[slow spade]

server-side ignoring your inputs

its more noticable for the Helbore 3 idk why

[torpid fractal]

huh

[serene sage]

Yes, server being fucky wucky

[torpid fractal]

it's so frustrating

[serene sage]

Happens with the Bolter too

[junior needle]

Hmm, the power sounds a bit inconsistent if you aren't running yourself out of stamina constantly. Take a swing is also just weak spot damage, which is much weaker than regular damage.

[torpid fractal]

glad not just my imagination

[slow spade]

quite literally, the server ignoring your inputs basically

[serene sage]

Sometimes Bolter would ghost fire 2 rounds

[trim steppe]

Darktide has a lot of no-reg problems. Sometimes I go to push a burster and I just block and it explodes in my face, it won't register my push

[devout atlas]

lawbringer hnghrhghhllghgh 🤤

[serene sage]

no, just no

You're wrong

[devout atlas]

loser

[serene sage]

Sorry

[devout atlas]

loser

loner aura energy

[limber lance]

since we dont have a meme channel anymore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838895085000720394/1181374379897143306/image.png?ex=6580d3a1&is=656e5ea1&hm=75ce9cc83a09d3445c2a48df5c2dbcf670fb1c4b8c355cb709c44df06ce8d433&

[whole moon]

Tonight has been bad for this for our team as well

[devout atlas]

lawbringer chads always on top

[trim steppe]

But it's a LOT of weak point damage. And if you're pushing a lot, you're draining stam constantly. It pairs well with a deadshot build 👍

[serene sage]

No heart emoji
There's no law there's no bringing anything

[swift ingot]

No this is a new variant of the revolver, the Agripina mk XIV

[serene sage]

Shotgun is bad and you should feel bad. Real men play Recon

[devout atlas]

chad

[serene sage]

And never shoot

[devout atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-7282648193309410221

metaslave explaining why rashad + plasma is best

[ancient path]

thats good. i wonder what the damage is gunna be on it.

[swift ingot]

You misspelled Laspistol

[ancient path]

because fast loading and fan the hammer is kinda covers the two biggest downsides of revolver

[devout atlas]

Laspistol is actually good though

[swift ingot]

Yeah

[serene sage]

Okay but how you killing Carapace with the law though

[swift ingot]

And that heavy variant we’re getting is going to slap so fucking hard

[devout atlas]

I imagine its damage output and lack of ADS will probably counteract

[devout atlas]

Shredders / Voice of Command to stumble them and Mk6 to ezclap em

I've killed 3/4 of the Crushers that match

[sharp ember]

i wonder what its ammo pool is gonna be like

[serene sage]

5

[devout atlas]

Kraks are for smelly losers who don't shower

[serene sage]

Just 5 ammo

[sharp ember]

5 whole ammos

[serene sage]

And the chamber is 6

[devout atlas]

5 ammos no reload

[ancient path]

oh it cant ads? neat

[obtuse raft]

Do we know for sure it can't ADS? Just the first I've heard that.

[serene sage]

To piss you off

[devout atlas]

I imagine its gonna be a "braced" revolver as a balancing act for its massive DPS

[swift ingot]

It’ll probably have like 60 or 70 max ammo

Maybe more

[obtuse raft]

I figured the downside was going to be forced speedloaders meaning you dump rounds and can't partial load

[devout atlas]

It'll be weird (and awkward) to enter fanning mode by pressing special imho but we'll see

[serene sage]

It can't be reloaded either, unless you have Cylinder Cycler IV that lets you refill 2 shots on special.

[obtuse raft]

Yeah true

[devout atlas]

that's my prediction of how it'll work, a "braced" revy

I will still use it but mostly on Zealot tbh

[serene sage]

Source: trust me dude.

[devout atlas]

prediction

dumbass

sorry that was uncalled for

[serene sage]

No u

[devout atlas]

too used to #zealot-class

[sharp ember]

i sentence you

[devout atlas]

mfs there give me brainrot

[sharp ember]

to using new vet shovel only

[serene sage]

Zealot chat has mental illness

[devout atlas]

dude I am so hyped for vet and ogryn shovels

we dont know anything for vet shovel other than appearance BUT IT LOOKS FOLDING TOO

and I want that so fucking bad dawg

[serene sage]

Everytime I look at it I lose some brain cells

[sharp ember]

the folded mode for anti armor better be sick

[swift ingot]

I need

[devout atlas]

literally would be my main on everything other than my lawbringer build

(meaning I won't use it sorry)

(half joking)

[sharp ember]

might be kinda lame if the folded attack is just the special attack animation

[devout atlas]

lawbringer ghnhgnhg

Nahhhh no way

Ogryns isnt

[sharp ember]

yeah looking at that one its a heavy at least

it has the wind-up interval

[eternal sable]

drip check

[obtuse raft]

Thunder hammer at home

[swift ingot]

That’s why I want it

[devout atlas]

The wind-up was just the Ogryn player trying to get Thrust/Crunch imho

[terse idol]

I dunno if ogryns even know how to unfold ir

[devout atlas]

that's so fucking funny

[swift ingot]

It’s thunder hammer without all the glowy bits

[eternal sable]

😭

[serene sage]

Hobo man stole a vox relay and try to dig a hole to hide it

[devout atlas]

Ogryns have to unfold grips on the Rippers/Stubbers so they can do that at least

[eternal sable]

its cool ok my friend it was :3

said it was

[devout atlas]

Thunderhammer if it wasn't boring as shit

[terse idol]

[devout atlas]

Thunderhammer with a moveset

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1125925770078998599/1115272338875879494.gif

[sharp ember]

ironhelm th hasn't been horrible

[serene sage]

Eat it

[sharp ember]

kinda useable as a discount powersword

from when i tried it

[devout atlas]

Ironhelm is fun but .

It has 2 useful attacks (and they're both the same attack just mirrored)

[obtuse raft]

I unironically love the boring ass 2H hammer moveset. It's like tide comfort food at this point.

[swift ingot]

I personally like the thunder hammer but I much prefer Ogryn’s weapons for the giggle factor that they have

[devout atlas]

I wish the lights werent dogwater

lights on 2h hammer in VT2 were awesome

[umbral scaffold]

When do y’all think the new patch is coming out?

[devout atlas]

in this game they're useless

[devout atlas]

Dude it came out today

joking

we don't know

[swift ingot]

Tomorrow if I were to guess

[sharp ember]

im thinking in 12-ish hours

[obtuse raft]

Yeah that's true they don't have the same one tap popping SV heads feel

[sharp ember]

praying

since its gonna be tuesday

[devout atlas]

They should make its lights super fast like chainsword

that'd be fun

[umbral scaffold]

That would be nice if it were tmr

[devout atlas]

:D

Ngl I am most hyped for new chainsword and laspistol

new chainsword seems to have horizontal lights

That is gonna be insane on crit Zealot

[sharp ember]

is it true the new chaxe is gonna have horde-clearing stats?

[devout atlas]

and new laspistol is probably gonna be a heavy version of laspistol

so laser magnum

fuck yes

[hybrid river]

In the files it has finesse instead of shredder

[swift ingot]

It’s going to be so good

[devout atlas]

oh good, shredder was already a useless stat on chaxe

[sharp ember]

heavier laspistol would be sick

[ancient path]

aint that just a lasgun

[sharp ember]

a pocket mg12

[obtuse raft]

New evis is very interesting. IDK what it is but I just cant get used to the moveset on the one we have

[devout atlas]

mostly gonna use it on Zealot since that's unironically gonna be goated for many builds

[devout atlas]

lasgun without horrible weapon recoil holy shit

[swift ingot]

Wdym would be? We’re getting it In the update

[devout atlas]

we don't rlly know its just speculation

[ancient path]

use the weapon mod to get rid of the stock and give it a shorter barrel on the mg12

heavy laspistol

[swift ingot]

I’m going to mostly use it on my vet because I like larping as a Commissar

[swift ingot]

It had the orangish brown that most heavy variants do

[devout atlas]

based because laspistol vet is very good

[devout atlas]

true that

[hard cave]

POST VET DRIP

NOW

[devout atlas]

when are we getting shotgun las

[hard cave]

YESSSS

MOOOOOORW

MOOOORE VET DRIP

[devout atlas]

I only have bought cosmetics on my Zealot/Ogryn sorry

[hard cave]

MOOO9999OREE

WHERE ARE THE 21ST MOEBIANN?????

[serene sage]

I want this

We need emote button

More than just for the emperor

[umbral scaffold]

Be fun if it were like l4d2s wheel

[whole moon]

There's some

[obtuse raft]

Vet drip feels like that toy story scene with the entire aisles full of buzz.
It's all so samey

[junior needle]

It is, but you need a lot for it to be even somewhat decent. I sadly don't have the blessing on my shovel atm or else I'd test it on a near max stat one, but the bonus is surprisingly quite low even on very high weakspot mod weapons.

I remember someone saying that deadly accurate only gives you like 60~ damage on a k12 crit weakspot hit, and that gun has much higher finesse modifiers than the shovel.

Plus weaving pushes in with the swings also lowers your overall dps, so the combo would have to be good enough to not only account for that but provide a comparable boost to another setup.

[hard cave]

YESSSSSS

[swift ingot]

Here’s my Ogryn’s drip

[hard cave]

MORE DRIPPP

[umbral scaffold]

Space biker

[eternal sable]

hehe drip check time!

[swift ingot]

No am space pirate

[umbral scaffold]

Hog Rider Ogyrn

[serene sage]

Why do they have such big shoulder pauldrons

[hard cave]

YESSS

[whole moon]

Is exactly the question you should ask to get shot in the head by Clanky

[swift ingot]

It’s 40k you’re gonna see some big pauldrons it’s a given

[whole moon]

The bigger the pauldrons the more senior the soldier.

[trim steppe]

Whats the state of Autopistol in patch 15? Hadron just did me a solid and rolled me an unbrickable; not sure what the consensus is on it rn. Flakiac and Blaze/Pinning/Raking?

[crude wind]

there we go that;s all of it

[hard cave]

@crude wind drip check passed

[crude wind]

thank you sir

[eternal sable]

drip check

[hard cave]

also why does pysker have shit cosmetics

[eternal sable]

i resubmit

[hard cave]

apart from redacted penance

[hard cave]

aren't you the femboy

[eternal sable]

yes but dont objectify me like that

[whole moon]

I feel like all classes get their best cosmetics out of redacted penances, unless you wanna spend all your dockets at the Scouse traitor

[hard cave]

well not even that

[flint lake]

Looking like a whole as clown 🤡 ongod

[junior needle]

Absolute dogshit, but that's very well rolled. Keep it around for if it gets buffed. It's in there with recons for vets worst gun.

[hard cave]

the moebian 21st and the dlc cosmetics for psyker suck

[eternal sable]

i robbed a clown for these pants

[gilded dock]

which skill tree path is best for mk 5 axe and laz pistol do yall think?

[hard cave]

like I'd very much like if pysker got like armor piece similar to zealot

instead of a trench coat

like the zealot 21st armor is genuinely drippy

and matches well with the vet 21st armor

compare those two to pysker and its just bleh

[tall torrent]

The new shovel is probably better dmg but riskier

[eternal sable]

i think new shovel is going to be heavy shovel

and did you see the heavy knife ?

thats gonna be cool

[trim steppe]

Whomp whomp, thanks. I'll hold onto it

[tall torrent]

You need a couple melee dmg nodes to reach best axe breakpoints, and laspistol wants crit & stamina related talents

[junior grail]

Did they show it in action?

[eternal sable]

yeah

2:05 heavy knife https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDe1mSDjtA&t=5s&ab_channel=Fatshark

[daring badger]

Have they confirmed how many new weapons?

[eternal sable]

they only confirmed two

the shovel and stub revolver

[daring badger]

Hoping for a couple new ogryn ranged, or a psyker staff

[torpid fractal]

they listed a few more I thought

in that post

[eternal sable]

and the others in the video

[torpid fractal]

and said also 'amongst others'

[eternal sable]

yeah amongst others

knife is on the menu

as a 3 class player my dockets are about to get fucked

[torpid fractal]

I am loving the subtitles

[daring badger]

the shovel looks cool like it changes from horde to single target

[torpid fractal]

worryingly manic 🧑‍🍳

[eternal sable]

ogryn shovel is going to be nuts

i have a feeling its gonna feel like a mk1 bully club or somesorts

[junior grail]

I asked "in action" as in movesets lol

[daring badger]

I guess we wont get a staff as that's not classed as a variant

[eternal sable]

yeah damn shovel can take thunderous

thats gonna be fun

[daring badger]

ohwell, hopfully the vet tree gets some good fixes

[junior grail]

No staffs we have now are variants anyway

[daring badger]

mis read

[junior grail]

Lol

[sullen coral]

Recommended perks for a plasma gun?

[junior grail]

Despite Voidstrike and Trauma being both Nomanus they don't share blessings haha

[junior grail]

If you wanna be safe, Flakiac. I personally run Cara Unyielding for some breakpoints

[viral nacelle]

Vraks 7 forcing me to up my aim game and I’m loving it

Also rez shout trait has been more than worth it every time I’ve brought it

[junior grail]

Use with Marksmans Focus to make precise shots more rewarding

[viral nacelle]

I’ve got deadshot slotted in and like that

Can’t remember rest of build rn

It’s heavily melee so that I can pocket zealot if I have to

[trim steppe]

Flak and Unyeilding hit the breakpoints I want. Plasma is reaaaally close to a lot of breakpoints, so it depends on what you build for your talents and what you want to kill faster

[junior grail]

Melee Vet is meta anyways

[viral nacelle]

Oh lmao I’m not divin that deep down the left tree

“Hello, yes, I am paper”

[junior grail]

I've tried left tree... never again

[echo pendant]

Wondering why speedloaders aren't a thing for the revolver

[junior grail]

New revolver comin

[viral nacelle]

Because taking forever to load is what makes it more balanced

[obtuse raft]

Man I've got some GREAT news for you

[midnight mortar]

Plus the revolver is capable of partial reloads.

[junior grail]

Imagine if our shotguns are drumfed, can guess where the meta shifts haha

Yea partial reloads are often underestimated

[peak stone]

new pfp for veteran Geralt

[echo pendant]

Fair, and it does make me feel like a cowboy.

But wouldn't it hurt for the imperium of man to spend a little bit of their budget to make some cheap and easy speedloaders

[midnight mortar]

It's a gameplay balance decision.

[junior grail]

Especially right skill tree and melee kills reloading your revolver is great

[echo pendant]

Either way, I'm Still gonna use it

[junior grail]

Its a shame for anyone not to use Revolver in its current state

[frank ether]

speedloaders are boring

mechanically it would turn your revolver into a 5 shot magazine pistol

[obtuse raft]

Ok but they look sick as hell and that's much more important

[frank ether]

''wouldn't it be cool if we had x'' is the path to ruin games

maybe it would be more fitting for fanning revolver

[junior grail]

Our Operative loading one bullet at a time at inhuman speeds is sick as hell too

[frank ether]

current revolver is already pretty insane as is

[obtuse raft]

Darktide officially ruined then I guess

Because that's what it is

[junior grail]

Speedloader is on fanning Volver

[tall torrent]

The new fanning revolver has speedloader and I think that’s justified

[echo pendant]

Would be fun, sadly would be absolutely horrible for me.

I'd fan that shit every time I can

[junior grail]

Assuming Fanvolver is weaker

[slow spade]

fanvolver has a damage buff uwU

[echo pendant]

Welcome to red dead redemption, in space, undead nightmare 2

[frank ether]

It will either trade damage or accuracy

chances are it will be a braced one instead of ads

[brisk sapphire]

Or both

[obtuse raft]

It would have to be. Unless the downside is something really out there.

[frank ether]

at that point you can have your speedloader, dont care

[junior grail]

The fanning just looks like braced to me as well

[obtuse raft]

No ADS would be really weird but sounds likely

[frank ether]

yeah, it really does

nah it makes sense

[junior grail]

Really is Bardins Pistol

[brisk sapphire]

Won't be surprised if it's more of a zealot weapon

[obtuse raft]

Feel like it would struggle for a niche if it kills your range. But like it's gotta be bad at something

[junior grail]

So looks like trading accuracy for fanning seems like the likely option

[echo pendant]

Honestly, the only thing we need for the revolver is just one more bullet in the cylinder.

[junior grail]

7 shooter volver that struggles to one shot poxwalkers

[frank ether]

probably better on a zealot doing a dodge roll to tighten spread and then magdumping yes

but Idk, would also work on vet

[dusk idol]

does onslaught still work for melee weaponss?

[frank ether]

on vet your way of reducing spread is volley fire

I just dont think running a close range pistol on left tree vet is very enticing

[junior grail]

Use ult, screaming and running at assassination boss while fanning revolver

[frank ether]

Also the funny thing is

vet gets to cheat out of revolver reload balancing

you never play by the rules thanks to weapon specialist anyways

so your normal revolver always has ammo

[tall torrent]

Traitor captain watching a high-on-stimm loose cannon vet perform ancient revolver techniques and instantly delete half of his health bar:

[junior grail]

Yea I'm so gonna use Fanvolver on Zealot

[frank ether]

I hope they dont kill of wolfer fast

game has nothing that resembles a story or a villain

[junior grail]

Most likely Wolfer will be a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain type

[frank ether]

lol

[junior grail]

Karnak Twins being Team Rocket

[frank ether]

I love team rocket

[junior grail]

Yea I hope the Twins have fun personalities too

[tall torrent]

The Karnak twins after getting their teeth kicked in for the 1000th time in one hour:

[junior grail]

Unless plot twist, the Twins are vat-grown and have many copies

But that would make them less interesting as actual characters

[echo pendant]

Would be fun to see if the twins have personalities and are always at eachothers throats.

[edgy wasp]

Guys

What’s the strat for on overwatch penance 😭

[tall torrent]

I wonder if the twins will have wounds and dismemberments if we kill them

[junior grail]

Which is that again? No damage or no ammo 100% accuracy?

[edgy wasp]

No damage

[frank ether]

just dont get hit 4head

[tall torrent]

You can get hit by normal melee when at max toughness
If you get hit, immediately pop VoC so you can afford 1 extra hit
Use block and dodges a lot

On Overwatch is basically just training u to be good at melee as vet

Because you’re gonna need that for higher difficulties

[edgy wasp]

📝 bet

[junior grail]

Keep shouting, keep blocking and always watch your back

[tall torrent]

You can’t get hit by mauler or crusher overheads (they just break ur toughness and down u)

You want to avoid ragers

See if you can get a team with a taunt Ogryn + smite Psyker

Makes it a lot easier

[junior grail]

Easier on quick missions so less chance of getting hit

[edgy wasp]

I’ve been trying so hard 😭

[tall torrent]

Oh yea u also can’t get slammed by mutants, those count as melee dmg

[edgy wasp]

I heard fire ticks it too, is that right?

[sudden dome]

just back up into a wall whenever you hear a mutant

and youre fine

[junior grail]

Low intensity helps too

[junior grail]

Just treat every hit as an instakill

[tall torrent]

Unsure

The tldr is don’t get hit by anything that damages beyond toughness

[junior grail]

Ears constantly hearing for audio cues

Ie. Paranoia run time

[sudden dome]

its just malice right? Run an infinite ammo build and just sit in the back

[junior grail]

Oh Infiltrate with 90% less threat could help too

[obtuse raft]

It's your kung fu movie training arc.
When you complete the penance you will truly be ready.

[junior grail]

More pressure on your team but hey its Malice, its fine

[sudden dome]

the real challenge is to complete on overwatch with melee only

[edgy wasp]

Literally 😭

[abstract moth]

Guys are pox walkers and groaners the same thing?

[edgy wasp]

Infinite ammo?

[junior grail]

Nope

[abstract moth]

They look the same

Always confuses me

[sudden dome]

graia braced with scavenger and 25% ammo literally cant run out even if you use it all round long on malice or heresy

[junior grail]

Lore wise Groaners are early infected, Poxwalker are late infected

[sudden dome]

you literally cant shoot fast enough to run out

[tall torrent]

groaners wear cloths
Pox walkers have like horns and naked torso

[sudden dome]

believe me Ive tried

[junior grail]

Game wise, Groaners have Unarmoured while Poxwalkers are Infested

[abstract moth]

Thanks that helps

[junior grail]

Also Poxwalkers have maggots spill out when you kill them

[dusk idol]

groaners also attack fast while poxwalkers have a huge windup to their attacks

[junior grail]

They are in separate groups in Psykhanium