veteran-class

[jolly cave]

For things you can't one shot in the meat grinder, it's worth looking at which direction their body falls over for follow up shots. Like I know I can two shot a bulwark if I hit their shield once, their head will be exposed to the target's bottom left.

[devout atlas]

oh god i just recorded a 10/10 auric damnation game with two psykers that ran off and died on purpose

me and the ogryn still won

I just recorded this to show off someone the tax2

but its good enough to edit into a video ngl

[hollow turtle]

Just heard the vanguard bundle is available now. Are we disappointed?

[jolly cave]

It's okay, it's free

Not a huge fan of the shade of blue, but it's fine

[ruby fulcrum]

Thats what for the drip is for!

[jolly cave]

For the drip?

[ruby fulcrum]

Gonna post that anywhere?

[ruby fulcrum]

It's a mod that let's you change colors for equipped cosmetics. Client only but eh

Or change camo patterns s

[devout atlas]

I'm gonna edit it a lil and post on ytb

I've never done dat before

[dapper agate]

I am now trailerman.

[ruby fulcrum]

Neat. Can you tag me in a comment when it's up? Plz

[scenic bronze]

You guys like my veteran

[candid bridge]

Are the cosmetics out?

[willow badger]

sadge

[nimble sentinel]

yarp

https://youtu.be/2mBMv2K2arc?si=Z8eJQaLikWQAmTK7
part 2 soon!

[tall torrent]

The vet headpiece should have came with a helmet

[celest vine]

Was the rumor that Xbox had to pay for the pack true?

Heard that awhile ago but thought it was false

[nimble sentinel]

no idea, but saves in the windows store are shared with xbox and the only caveat was that you play on a pc before the 17th

if someone here did so, confirmation would be nice

[devout atlas]

Would it be in bad taste if I made my thumbnail similar to chocoB?

[umbral eagle]

Thanks I'll give it a try and see how it feels instead of all or nothing

[devout atlas]

so far I have this but its unreadable from far so I will prob rework it

[keen dock]

quick question since only recently i started playing Vet

the power swords feels like shit

is the weapon actually good

i think i mainly feel that cause of no pushback

[devout atlas]

They're dogshit without power cycler 4

[keen dock]

got it

[devout atlas]

Okish with power cycler 3

[keen dock]

guess i'll give it a try with a power cycler 4 later on

[devout atlas]

Yeah pretty much

I'd stick to csword, dclaw4 and shovel for now

dclaw4 is nice because even a shit roll is good enough

[junior needle]

My opinion of the new cosmetics are that they're worse than they're largely worse than penance gear

Absolutely not worth 14000 aquilas, not even 7000. I will continue to clutch my pearls.

[rocky jacinth]

Power Sword 6 with brutal momentum and power cycler 👌

[nimble sentinel]

but have you considered: poop sword bad

[cosmic jacinth]

Vet with combat knife are just Lightning Mcqueen

[keen dock]

honestly i like the csword but i do want to try out other stuff

i guess i'll try the shovel

[nimble sentinel]

shovel is great, like the bastard child of a power hammer making mistakes with an axe and a bottle or seven of 30 year old french wine

[jolly cave]

Shovel moveset is perfect

[cosmic jacinth]

I had my friends try out Veteran cause they were impressed with how we can move (with the knife at least)

Plus cool knife tricks

[keen dock]

i wanted to try out veteran for killing specialist, that and also i spent a bit too much time on zealot and ogryn

so far i like it

it was a bit boring till i got the plasma gun

[slow spade]

Veteran shines at higher levels

[keen dock]

yea i felt like i was shooting paper bullets for a while

till i started unlocking more stuff

[cosmic jacinth]

I'm liking my build, moving everywhere and sniping the snipers with revolver I'm so fast it's like I was still using melee

[karmic musk]

Its just Revolver, the 5th class

[dapper agate]

Why does this exist? Like it doesn't seem too useful. Unless I'm missing something.

[junior needle]

Best for lasguns in combination with shock trooper

Also shotguns using special rounds

[dapper agate]

I guess that could be nice yeah.

[junior needle]

Also kill zone can be hard to keep up with things constantly spawning/being in an area around you

[scarlet timber]

Shotguns.

[nimble sentinel]

it was a godsend when the recon was good and you're a serial reloader

[junior needle]

The one recon was good

[dapper agate]

Yeah, that's kind of annoying as well, like probably they should make the distance 5 meters so it's up a bit more often.

[teal abyss]

Did the Aquila shop reset?

[nimble sentinel]

should be tomorrow I think

[delicate moat]

i fucking died in the elevator as last person

[teal abyss]

Thanks

[dapper agate]

I wish we had a proper las machinegun, aka the hotshot volleygun. It sucks only the enemies get to use those.

[delicate moat]

i actually dont know what i can do

"hostile on board"

[tall torrent]

Ngl the recon team armor looks good
Wish it had a helmet but this is pretty cool

[junior grail]

Them big bulky shoulder pads

[high steppe]

Finally, a use for that one blue helmet

[nimble sentinel]

I didn't think I'd like the mask as much as I do

[delicate moat]

do u have to kill the entire horde for elevator to not complain?

i had like the entire auric maelstrom horde on my ass

and got triple sniper'd

[high steppe]

No enemies on board

and everyone that is alive

[delicate moat]

fuck my teammate was down but not dead

[junior needle]

You don't need any other teammates alive last I checked

Oh whoops, misread that

[delicate moat]

i think i just got screwed over by the trash that was following me

[tiny summit]

Which one was the good one?

[nimble sentinel]

6d

[tiny summit]

Thought so

[nimble sentinel]

a lot of shots, a lot of crits, a lot of free ammo

[junior needle]

It's still the "best" one, but low tier at best now

[untold mulch]

VId was good for 21 days

never forget

never forgive

[junior needle]

The shit guns also got shafted in 14 too

[untold mulch]

You know what that means?

Revolver needs another buff fr

[junior needle]

Also helbores

[scarlet timber]

Watch, we get it but it’s a looted chimera multilaser carried by an ogryn

[tiny summit]

Tried it psykarium last night. "Oh this seems to be doing just fine" with a full build. Then the columnus just has +2x its dps with the same build

Only real perk I see is its stability+range and free crit shots

[inner drift]

how badly do I need extra cleave on a chainsword? I think I SHOULD swap out weak spot damage for unarmored or maniac but tempted to get savage sweep to clear horde better

[trim hemlock]

It’s a trap IMO, but changing the perk on this thing is certainly justified

[languid escarp]

holy shit zealots players really are psychopaths. I was trying to level my level 6 zealot and these 2 level 30 zealot mfs was trying to speed run a friggin low intensity malice level

died like 5 times alone but it doesnt matter

[trim hemlock]

Melk mission completion enthusiasts, perhaps

[tiny summit]

Imma be real, completing 8 missions is always the last contract.

[languid escarp]

what about the 16 grimmoire/scripture

[inner drift]

what do you mean by trap?

[tiny summit]

I'm not stupid. I'm not doing those

[languid escarp]

lmao

true

reroll

[nimble sentinel]

What gave you that impression?

[languid escarp]

takes me 2 deaths to completely give up and afk

at least it was fast exp

[tiny summit]

Was a gunker 1 game with 3 knife zealots. Quite a ride

[trim hemlock]

It's a cleave you will likely not need, with Rampage in mind that is

Because Rampage increases your power when it procs, and power = damage, cleave and stagger

[devout atlas]

@ruby fulcrum @rocky jacinth @south garnet https://youtu.be/bVhVlsWDlog?si=ue_vK6vly6qJZbYi

Since I promised you the clip earlier

[ruby fulcrum]

Excellent ty

[inner drift]

okay, thanks

[rocky jacinth]

nice, i'll watch

the axe i rolled up

[devout atlas]

Ooh that's nice asf

You can defo make it work

The full game was like 45 mins long so I just uploaded the finale because the fact half of my team threw like that is astonishing

This was prob my fav moment from the game

[untold mulch]

FOR THE GOLDEN FRAGGIN THRONE

I love the lines

[devout atlas]

I adore the voice of my vet haha

I don't regret the voices of any of my 4 characters which is very lucky

[untold mulch]

Same, though I did a bit of research before the other three

Vet LC was blind, and damn, love his stupid ass

[devout atlas]

I have the french fem psyker, the nice bodyguard ogryn, and the nice fem zealot

I'm glad none of my voices are racist to ogryns or psykers

that'd make me sad

[junior needle]

Where's the slapping part supposed to be in here?

[untold mulch]

Vet Loose Cannon
Psyker Seer
Ogryn Brawler
Zealot.. fanatic?

[untold mulch]

I thought I was gonna hate the fanatic, and then she went in a roundabout way agreed to teach the brawler to read

[devout atlas]

tax2 fucks

rashad is coal

stay mad :P

[bright cliff]

boys anyone know what this is

is this part of the vanguard bundle or whatever?

[untold mulch]

I assume so

[junior needle]

Like, that's a higher number, but the actual gameplay doesn't show anything impressive. It looks more like you just had more than average lifting to do because 2 people on your team did basically no melee damage. It could be distinctly average performance overall.

[bright cliff]

[devout atlas]

"More than average lifting" is killing 1100 enemies out of 2429 including 3/4 of all elites and specials

[junior needle]

Well yeah, you're using revolver, but we're talking about the tac axe no?

From the clip you had two do nothings constantly getting downed as well.

You even tried to kick one

[nimble wadi]

Where’d you get the blue helmet?

[junior needle]

I didn't watch the whole clip so I was asking if there were any stand out points where the tac axe was actually doing more than other melee weapons would have

[devout atlas]

If you don't have the patience for me then why should I have any patience for you.

[fallow compass]

It was given to PC players as part of that exclusive cosmetic deal

[bright cliff]

didn't realize it was out

no fanfare from shatfark so I didn't think we got it yet

[fallow compass]

Vet cosmetic sucks though

[bright cliff]

yeah they gave it to zealot

[devout atlas]

New cosmetics out alr?

I wanted the ogryn one

[fallow compass]

Should have just given us all the hoods since we are a “recon” team

[serene sage]

Guys I think we need to stop talking shit about different weapons. They are all unique.

Chainsword is iconic
Combat Axe is robust
Shovel is versatile
Tactical Axe
Powersword is efficient

[lusty jetty]

They aren't good

[junior needle]

Well, there's no need to be passive aggressive. It was an honest question because I wasn't seeing anything that stood out to me and I wanted to know if there was something I was missing.

[fallow compass]

I was hoping we’d get glow goggles for all the classes an not just the ogryn since it took them a month to add in the cosmetics

[devout atlas]

Lets not kid ourself. This isn't a honest question.

[serene sage]

Are new cosmetics out?

[devout atlas]

Last time I'm replying to you

[fallow compass]

Yes

[serene sage]

Only zealot has the hood?

[fallow compass]

sadly

[serene sage]

[fallow compass]

hey im sure we can all petition FS to give the vet a hood too

[serene sage]

Can't have shit in Tertium

[delicate moat]

where's the sniper drip

[fallow compass]

We just need to ask and collectively voice

otherwise it will never happen

[junior needle]

Uh huh, that is an honest question? I literally want to know where the tac axe was exceling there. I don't see why you need to interpret that as hostility or act like that in response to me.

[tardy kernel]

I missed the death corp cosmetic didn't I

[serene sage]

If we each send a threat, they'll surely listen

[fallow compass]

Personally i want glow goggles and hoods for all the classes

[serene sage]

I'm kd pls don't

[fallow compass]

Im not 14 lol. I know better

[iron marten]

Tactical Axe is RSI fest

[sharp ember]

tac axe excels at

making a sick beat by stunlocking a mutie with special attacks

[junior needle]

Apparently the sick beat instills some hostility in people too

[zealous wyvern]

instead of asking "where is X supposed to be in here?"
ask "where is X in here?"
supposed is very much associated with implying the opposite

not really your fault

but it might prevent this in the future

because suppose means that someone "assumes" it is the case
while asking where it is means that you ask them where it factually is

sounds less doubting

ergo less sarcastic and mean

i think they were just mad from the match. their chatting was quite upset

[junior needle]

Sounds like reading into it too much with a pessimistic interpretation

[zealous wyvern]

i mean

as i said not really your fault

but your question did directly state that you consider them to maybe not be right

which is fair

but of course can signal people that you are doubting them

and internet is full of smug cunts

[junior needle]

I did outright say I'm not trying to dig and genuinely curious, and then the response was just continued hostility.

[zealous wyvern]

but i think theyre just upset from their team not holding the position they want

[vivid bolt]

me reading this like this isnt text chat and to not get offended over some perceived tone

[zealous wyvern]

i do not understand that sentence

[serene sage]

me think the ladies doth protest too much

[zealous wyvern]

hey i am just spending some time on semantics for fun

[junior needle]

Me when someone possibly implies doubt as to the correctness of anything I say on the internet

[vivid bolt]

Text does not carry the same tone of speech n such, more directed to the initial dude getting pissed off

[whole moon]

Good luck!

[zealous wyvern]

its moreso people doing it all the time

association

[bitter turtle]

I wanted hood and glowing mask

to be snipper

😔

[zealous wyvern]

if 50 ppl say "supposed to be here?" you eventually learn

and go off on people

[serene sage]

TexT DOes Not cArry tHe Same TOne of speEch

[vivid bolt]

????

[whole moon]

I had the shotty/Ogryn fatherly prayer line this afternoon but the Zealot was wearing their new mask so it sounded VERY creepy

[zealous wyvern]

like imagine if you said something in gen chat and a person went "who asked?"
obviously this could be a poltie and legit question but 99% of internet users with a brain will conclude that they are telling you to shut up

[junior needle]

I'm a mature adult who can tolerate the notion that people can disagree with me or have differing opinions and views.

[zealous wyvern]

that is not the point here

its mockery

[junior needle]

As many people have over my years spent lingering on the internet.

[serene sage]

play Remnant 2, we have Marksman Focus vet with hood

[whole moon]

We always tend to inject perceived tone to textual convos despite, as you rightly say, there is none

[zealous wyvern]

and still a mature adult with a happy attitude can ignore mockery

just saying it gets people sometimes

not everyone is always cool with being mocked

[vivid bolt]

i mean yea the average person does yea

[junior needle]

Sometimes people are finding mockery where there is none and need to take a chill pill.

[bitter turtle]

fuck you

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

i said so

[bitter turtle]

and i mean that in a non mocking sense

jk

[zealous wyvern]

they just were upset from their match

i watched the clip

7 minutes

they were very unhappy with their team

;)

[serene sage]

why don't you fuck me yourself, you coward

[zealous wyvern]

you hope

[bitter turtle]

no fuck ME if you're a real man

[zealous wyvern]

how about

[whole moon]

Wait. What just happend

[zealous wyvern]

you both fuck the moebian 6

and by fuck i mean kill

[whole moon]

Is this romance or just hatefucking?

[zealous wyvern]

not fraternise

[junior needle]

Me getting angry over video games and taking it out on other people

[zealous wyvern]

me to my bf

every match

ever

[bitter turtle]

but one of the vox comms with the moebian 6th and wolfe sounds like the grunt is a lady

[zealous wyvern]

good man

[bitter turtle]

i never talked to women before 👉 👈

[zealous wyvern]

controls it

i am telling you to kill them, not ask them out for dinner

i would not dare do that myself

[bitter turtle]

i thought this was just an elaborate metaphor for a date, mb

[zealous wyvern]

i am unsure if my filters can block the cooties

must ask quartermaster

[serene sage]

I am getting more and more confused

[atomic zephyr]

the moebian VIth officer is a woman with a scab shooter avatar

the adjuntant is a man with a scab shotgunner avatar

[quick burrow]

man keystone less mk5 build is the way

[nimble sentinel]

good thing my las shots are rated E for everyone

[hard cave]

please post vet drip

[serene sage]

no

[hard cave]

like now

[serene sage]

im good thanks

[hard cave]

🤨

[iron marten]

maybe he's saying that cause he has has no drip

[royal monolith]

vet got no drip

[serene sage]

okay fine, this is how I look in game fr fr

[royal monolith]

vet got only clipping issues

[royal monolith]

another L

[junior needle]

It was definitely something I could've chosen to do.

[serene sage]

nice krieg outfit

[iron marten]

nathan drake in 40k

[serene sage]

I said what I said

[hard cave]

Is that mask finally obtainable

Or is that a mod

[iron marten]

you get it for free

[hard cave]

WHERE

[bitter turtle]

we just got it

[iron marten]

if you played before nov 17

[hard cave]

I played at release

Haven't played since then

[nimble sentinel]

[hard cave]

do I still get it

[serene sage]

if you ask nicely, probably

[junior needle]

If you played on PC

Before the 17th

[hard cave]

I NEED TO COMPLETE THE HIVE DEFENDER DRIP

[iron marten]

just realized three of my loadouts have the same pants

[bitter turtle]

gross

you never wash them?

[iron marten]

it's gray

they shouldn't see anything!

[junior needle]

IMO the sets are all clearly worse than penance gear on every class, only possible stand out is the ogryn mask. I don't know if they give you the respirator voice modulation.

[serene sage]

do you think our vets smell bad?

[iron marten]

we go to a nurgle infested hive city, ofc they do!

[serene sage]

i mean after the mission

on the Mourningstar

[iron marten]

imagine the smell of the blood alone!

[untold mulch]

I assume we get heavy decontamination afterwards

[nimble sentinel]

with decontamination after every mission, the smell of bleach must be as strong as a Kriegs trench

[untold mulch]

Like HEAVY

[hard cave]

what sets

did everyone get a set

for free

[bitter turtle]

everyone except you

[hard cave]

if so can you post it

[bitter turtle]

fatshark personally informed me they excluded you

[hard cave]

crying

[bitter turtle]

in particular

[serene sage]

kek

[frank ether]

aight

what are we angy about tonight

[hard cave]

ok but fan someone post the free outfits they gave out

[serene sage]

global warming, existential crisis, income inequality

[hard cave]

or is this major tomfoolery at my expense

[iron marten]

well, at least 2 of my builds have the same pants now, instead of 3

[hard cave]

HIVE DEFENDER DRIP OMGOMGOMG

[untold mulch]

PC players got a few skins to "compensate" the Xbox aquilas ones

[frank ether]

pfft irrelevant

lets focus on real problems

like how the pearl clutcher set is

blue

[untold mulch]

Its too blue

[serene sage]

Revolver still hitting harder than Boltgun

[iron marten]

I'm pretty bad at making my characters in any game look unique

[fallow compass]

I just want glow goggles and hoods dangit!

[junior needle]

Someone got very angy that I did not see how the tactical axe "slaps" after posting a gameplay video

[untold mulch]

Pick generic face, edit a bit

pick full helmet

Done

My strat

[junior needle]

But if you want collective angy, we can all be angy about how the new cosmetics kinda suck

[frank ether]

the only thing tactical axe can slap is my expectations

[hard cave]

What did the other classes get

[nimble sentinel]

Hello it is I, Definitely a Veteran Guardsman

[serene sage]

eh, idc tbh, not like im equipping them

[untold mulch]

[iron marten]

true, better than spending an hour customizing your character, then playing in first person and wearing a mask

[serene sage]

hello fellow vets

[untold mulch]

I am probably only gonna use Zealot and Ogryn

[iron marten]

idk lol, I can check

[untold mulch]

Skins

[fallow compass]

Only the zealot and ogryn look good

[frank ether]

again I'd actually be happy about these skins if we had some basic functionality of changing colors

[fallow compass]

Ogryn is still kinda meh though, really only the mask looks good

[serene sage]

that would be $10

[untold mulch]

Soo, how much chance this skins were for anniversary

and they just reworked them to shut the PC players with no extra work done?

[iron marten]

now this is an important discussion!

[frank ether]

but why have that when you can grub your little greedy fingers thinking of all the reskin sales

[serene sage]

digital dyes are expensive

[warm idol]

ok guys place your bets

[untold mulch]

The fact that a 40k game has no color customization is always baffling

[warm idol]

will we get overpriced reskins tomorrow

or actual good drip

[iron marten]

Arma 3 Modders saving the day!

[nimble sentinel]

the fact that the customization costs a lot of money, however, is rather on point

[serene sage]

40,000 warhammer but only Zealot gets to use them

[hard cave]

here's hoping I still get the drip for being a launch player

[untold mulch]

and For The Drip mod I heard it shows that the recolors take NO TIME for Fatshark to do

[hard cave]

Haven't touched darktide in forever since pc died

[untold mulch]

TRUE

[fallow compass]

Since people are asking about the other skins, here is the Zealot and Psyker

[frank ether]

this game is a textbook study on how to take a good concept and ruin it

[untold mulch]

Injustice

[serene sage]

psyker isn't bad imo

[serene sage]

Mortal Kombat

[hard cave]

Whats orgyn

[sharp epoch]

I want zealots hood 😔

[untold mulch]

Fatshark higher ups are too obsessed with that profit

[serene sage]

don't we all 😔

[iron marten]

if you told me the zealot set was veteran, I would've believed you

[untold mulch]

[frank ether]

They're too fucking blind to see I value none of the skins if I can't mix and match them

[untold mulch]

Fr

[warm idol]

seriously

[sharp epoch]

zealots starting to have a lot of outfits similar to veteran

[warm idol]

just give us camo patterns

and color options

[untold mulch]

The fact that we can't choose basic colors is ridiculous

[warm idol]

unironically will make more people spend money

[sharp epoch]

like at a glance zealots could look like veteran

[fallow compass]

I thought it was when they first showed it and i was very excited. Now im incredibly bummed out i waited a month for this

[warm idol]

cause it means they can take a good looking piece with a default color they hate

and make it good

[serene sage]

Patch 17 is when Vets are the melee class and Zealots are the ranged revolver class

[untold mulch]

Whoever is in charge of marketing/store and all

Is actually a massive idiot

[warm idol]

but what's that

fatshark

and logical decisions?

impossibru

[serene sage]

it was me, i told them to do that

[fallow compass]

Ogryn (not a great picture) and better lighting really does nothing to improve it. Only the mask is good really

[untold mulch]

Perish

[serene sage]

no heart emoji

[warm idol]

patch 17 comissar skill tree when

[sharp epoch]

the glowing eyes 😍

[warm idol]

execute the psyker and buff the rest of the team

[frank ether]

let me focus mark spot the psyker

[fallow compass]

I really wanted all classes to have the glow goggles and hoods because they were all “recon” skins

[untold mulch]

10/10 decision

[warm idol]

FOLLOW MY EXAMPLE OR I WILL MAKE YOU ONE

[hard cave]

not bad

[untold mulch]

Actually making all skins having glowy eyes would have been a good decision

[hard cave]

well at least they give us a lot of free options for customization

[sharp epoch]

oh theyre coming out with them, psyker already getting one in the files

[untold mulch]

so they didn't

Loan Shark be like

[fallow compass]

Like to these skins or seperate ones?

[sharp epoch]

its that weird mask that looks like an elephant though

uhh separate obv you know fatshark

[fallow compass]

Im new to fatshark but i guess i shouldnt be surprised

[untold mulch]

Man, tomorrow info better be good

[serene sage]

oh update "this month" huh

[sharp epoch]

they released the krieg skins with offbrand helmets and sold the classic ones seprately

[untold mulch]

Somewhere in their creative process is completely broken and nonfuctional

soooo

canon to 40k really

[sharp epoch]

this month always means the last second of the month

[fallow compass]

I want to draw up a redesign of the recon vet skin

[untold mulch]

They only have a one week margin for the update sooo

[fallow compass]

Brb

[untold mulch]

They better be cooking

[serene sage]

do you think Obama can beat Auric T5?

[untold mulch]

Why that brings me that period with the AI voices with the recent US presidents 🤦‍♂️

[serene sage]

we need one of those vid for DT tbh

[untold mulch]

Fr

[languid escarp]

Which class do you think is Obama

[serene sage]

He strikes me as a Vet kinda guy

[untold mulch]

Vet needs a servoskull strike skill fr

The topic is completely unrelated I swear

[gentle heath]

whats a good autogun for balanced close range and long range dmg

[serene sage]

content draught chat be like

[gentle heath]

cuz i wanna deal good close range dmg but also deal with snipers

[untold mulch]

100%

[languid escarp]

IAG

[untold mulch]

Don't need much damage to deal with snipers

as long as you can actually hit them

so no brauto

[serene sage]

i can countersnipe with columnus lol

[gentle heath]

which iag tho

[untold mulch]

[serene sage]

as long as it's not braced you're fine

[languid escarp]

Headhunter is good too but recoil is harsher when moving

When compared to iag

[tiny summit]

Graia MK8

Hits harder than columnus, slower fire rate but it more steady. Definitely my mid range full auto autogun

[junior needle]

I believe the graia IAG has noticeable less dps however

But let me test that

[tiny summit]

Probably

[frosty lark]

i'm a big fan of the graia

[junior needle]

I may or may not have a well rolled gray graia

[frosty lark]

the recoil pattern makes it useable at long range

[junior needle]

I know the agri does less dps

by a good margin

[tiny summit]

I have zero testing and don't have the other one. All I know is I like it's performance on my zealot with the columnus as well.

[untold mulch]

I tried to use the Agri

but I just went back to laspistol

[sharp ember]

graia iag just feels nice in the hands

not a leadspitter but also not too chunky

[tiny summit]

just right

[junior needle]

Equal number of crits

about 300~ less dps

[tiny summit]

So still acceptable since his question was for a balance of close and long range. Of course the colunmus was going to excel here.

[sharp epoch]

columbus is op

[gentle heath]

i found a weakspot on carapace ogryns

its their feet

[devout atlas]

I've been running into it everyday lately

[junior needle]

Yeah the graia feels a lot more stable for long range

[gentle heath]

columnus with reflex sight tho

kinda makes it feel more stable and easier to use

[tiny summit]

Its why I do like using it on my zealot. Gives me that steady ranged option since up close I'm gonna use my heavy sword anyways

[sharp ember]

if only we had a way to view effective range more efficiently

[gentle heath]

do autoguns just have an innate dmg ramp up?

[atomic zephyr]

god i wish

its probably dumdum

[gentle heath]

nah it aint cuz

on graiai

its grey

no blessings no nothin

[delicate moat]

do u have the latest version of weapon customization?

[gentle heath]

and the dmg seems to be going up

[atomic zephyr]

i dont think theres a ramp up

[acoustic wyvern]

you prolly scored a headshot somewhere

[gentle heath]

max 129 and min 41

[junior needle]

Falloff?

[gentle heath]

so headshots have rampup?

[devout atlas]

had to revert back because the latest latest was borked but that was last night. I believe the issue might actually be with steam cloud though, but I will have to test

[junior needle]

headshots do more damage

[acoustic wyvern]

the iag's headshot dmg is really high

[delicate moat]

ironically, i have a old version (a couple versions back) and it's significantly more stable than newer versions

[cosmic jacinth]

Headshots are weak points right?

[devout atlas]

Yes I've noticed that too

[acoustic wyvern]

higher than braced

[delicate moat]

i hope it's just cloud sync tho

[devout atlas]

Me too

[gentle heath]

not for carapace ogryns

its them toes

[sharp ember]

there shouldn't be any damage variance

[devout atlas]

Do you have the Favorites mod because apparently that's popping up in a lot of peoples crashlogs too

[plush jetty]

Rate my Vraks (also my blessing catalog is mostly empty, one day I can replace that stupid blessing I keep getting on every gun)

[devout atlas]

The "MyFavorites"

[delicate moat]

i do have the favorites mod, but that's been fairly stable for me

[acoustic wyvern]

this is for graia, you deal almost 2x more on the head

[devout atlas]

Imma put it in my modbackup and play without it just in case for a bit

[delicate moat]

but as soon as i use a newer weapon customization mod i crash like every 2 games

[sharp ember]

carapace is a no-no , Surgical is great, Unarmored is ok.

[devout atlas]

Yea lmao same

Idk if its that or a new version of Darktide tho

but if any mod has a memory leak issue its most likely weapons customisation

[sharp ember]

Won't do you much good to upgrade carapace on a gun that only does like 3% damage against it

Flak or Maniac would be a better pick for more situations

[devout atlas]

ye flak esp

[junior needle]

Oh wait, there was a big stability difference between the two guns I was testing. Feels much more usable at long range with a higher stability stat but the graia was still better.

[devout atlas]

I

bruh

why did removing MyFavorites delete all my loadouts

[gentle heath]

sustained fire on graia seems cool

[bitter turtle]

graia is the balanced middle sibling

i have a well rolled versions of all 3

they're all good tbh

[sharp ember]

I've never been a fan of salvo blessings, I'm going to squeeze until the target is swiss cheese

[old quail]

the agri IAG can hit one-tap bps on stuff like gunners with the right build which is cool

[tall torrent]

Salvo blessings just aren’t that good

[devout atlas]

WHAT

???????

[tall torrent]

Regular shooters u mean?

[serene sage]

all the autoguns should be the same family but different marks
it makes no sense to separate braced and infrantry

[old quail]

no

[devout atlas]

my favorites still working with the mod removed

what the fuck

[tall torrent]

Can u show

[old quail]

sure

gimme a sec i gotta boot the game up

[sharp ember]

uh oh

spaghetti mod install

[devout atlas]

uh oh indeed 💀

im gonna reboot making sure its defo not in my mods folder again

[sharp epoch]

casue the blessings are diff

[gentle heath]

ohh wait the rampup dmg i was talkin bout was from onslaught

[untold moth]

All the veteran keystones feel really underwhelming to me for how much we need to trade to get to them

[gentle heath]

im dumb

[devout atlas]

the missing loadouts could be cus i disabled steam sync actually

I hope its that

[serene sage]

okay then agri graia columnus should be the same family

[junior needle]

Important to test on a talentless setup!

[gentle heath]

no >:C

[untold moth]

I guess I like the weapon swap one. For free reload

[gentle heath]

im not listening to u

[sharp epoch]

Yeah they're not worth it imo the only one with a lot of impact is the marksman left side tree

[gentle heath]

[sharp ember]

i mean ☝️ 🤓 of course each forge world would have their own renditions of a style of weapon

[junior needle]

Seems to be a trend today

[serene sage]

my proposal is to straight up delete
marksman, for the emp, close quarter killzone
and slightly buff the keystones in compensation

[gentle heath]

[serene sage]

i would delete 2 talents from each branch, tbh

shocktroop + marksman gone
born leader + for the emp gone
skrimisher + close killzone gone

shuffle things around so each tree is 2 nodes shorter

bam

[junior needle]

Shocktrooper stays, shocktrooper is gold

[sharp ember]

yeah those demi-capstones are so... wow

[junior needle]

I am not biased as a lasgun fan

Definitely not

[sharp epoch]

idk why we have those ult talents but other classes dont

and the fact theyre all trash

[fathom grail]

No anime in my Christian vet chat

[serene sage]

yeah forget about deleting fillers, we are actually doing OKAY in term of fillers and we need those nodes

we need to delete talents

[nimble sentinel]

Christianity ain't the name of the Imperial Cult, HERETIC

[fathom grail]

Just delete vet and add female ogryn

Ez

[sharp epoch]

please remove twinned blast and born leader

[dusk idol]

replace vet with rat people

[serene sage]

Christian

[umbral scaffold]

With who, you say?

[sharp ember]

NO IT STAYS

[serene sage]

at least twin blast is in a spot where it doesn't interfere with other stuff

[sharp ember]

TB isn't hurting anybody where it sits

yeah

[serene sage]

Born Leader can die a thousand deaths

[nimble sentinel]

Yes-yes, this is good idea-thought for the planet-world

[sharp ember]

i ride the high of two shredder grenades sailing through the sky

[umbral scaffold]

Ratling gunner VS ratling gunner, who wins

[fathom grail]

Rat personality wen

[sharp ember]

psyker voice with rat dialect

[whole moon]

humans are the 40k skaven, youve got em 😛

[umbral scaffold]

Not wacky enough

[serene sage]

not nearly enough friendly fire

[fathom grail]

Humans are boring though

[umbral scaffold]

Besides, where is all my warpstone?

Or wyrdstone

[finite imp]

humans created literally everything what

[whole moon]

I stand by what I said! 😛

[finite imp]

humans are dope

[little fog]

Snort the Warpstone.

[topaz lance]

Cutthroat is already in the game

[nimble sentinel]

imagine darktide but we were orks

[serene sage]

I like human, every games I play I always play as human

[umbral scaffold]

Darktide if it was based

[finite imp]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[bitter turtle]

human with cat ears when

[serene sage]

🤨

[umbral scaffold]

Tired of hearing mutants constantly yelling like idiots? Yell like an idiot yourself! Introducing, the Warhammer 40k: Greentide

[bitter turtle]

you heard me

[finite imp]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUGH

[sharp ember]

next game: Greentide

[finite imp]

id like to just go on the record and say orks would literally rip rejects to shreds

[sharp ember]

definitely would main a flashgit with big snazzgun

[serene sage]

granted but only guys can get them

[nimble sentinel]

our vets canonically faced off orks and we're alive

[untold mulch]

ogryns with access to the internet would be a threat

[finite imp]

oh yeah? did they do that with just 4 people lol

[tiny summit]

They are like afterthoughts to a tree everyone was kinda happy with. Vet didn't have keystones? Big whoop. So they had made trees and gave it additions without changing the point economy or removing/consolidating talents.

[nimble sentinel]

fair

[finite imp]

a regiment of guardsmen and 4 rejects i think you'll find differ in power

[old quail]

https://streamable.com/ixz0kt

@tall torrent

[untold mulch]

Nothing has stated they hasn't

[old quail]

w/ this build

[umbral scaffold]

Beast of Nurgle would rip rejects to shreds, power scaling doesn't work at all here

[bitter turtle]

there's unironically cat people abhumans canonically

[old quail]

the iag isn't optimized cuz i havent touched it since patch 12

[bitter turtle]

catgirls when

[sharp ember]

your average ork boy would sit around mauler-rager hp but with huge heads to shoot

[untold mulch]

Tbf Carnival speaks like we are a platoon threat

[nimble sentinel]

in our rejects defense, the screaming one with a hammer one shot kills plauge ogryns

[finite imp]

6 orks could kill an average ultramarine

[fathom grail]

Only reason the vets are still alive is because they had ogryns

[old quail]

so dumdum would give u extra damage that would probs make up for just running 10 stacks w/ camo vs 15

[tall torrent]

Oh u need 15 stacks of turret keystone

[old quail]

if u take the rending and have unarmored instead of maniac u can 1 tap dreg gunners w/o 15 stacks

well u probs wouldnt need the rending

[fathom grail]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-warhammer-40k-goedulf-gif-11159172985775338946

[old quail]

think u do for flak w/o 15

[junior needle]

The 4 rejects regularly take on regiments of (former) guardsmen, and also warp entities

[bitter turtle]

i dont think it matters too much with how the iags are automatic in the first place

[tiny summit]

Feel like you we should be able to skip that 1 node that connects the 3 grenades if we stick to the vertical path.

[untold mulch]

Instantly goes to loot him

[bitter turtle]

the agri iag is still effective at like 30m+

even with automatic fire

[sharp ember]

the carnival traitors were getting laid out so bad by 4 rejects that they tried to lie and say it was a battlegroup of 50 guardsmen

[nimble sentinel]

we're practically named ultramarines, helmet fully off

[serene sage]

the carnival traitors were getting laid
okay, go on
out so bad by 4 rejects that they tried to lie and say it was a battlegroup of 50 guardsmen
oh

[umbral scaffold]

Who says it wasn't? 46 heretics were simply Alpharius

[tall torrent]

“Platoon level strength”

[nimble sentinel]

that's cap, I'M Alpharius

[untold mulch]

Honestly it must be pretty baffling to see 4 dudes just tearing apart an entire group

Ain't no karking way is only 4

[bitter turtle]

its because the traitors havent figured out where the spacebar key on their keyboards are yet

[untold mulch]

they are the recon ones of course

The KIA are from the platoon behind them

[bitter turtle]

if only they knew you could dodge everything in the game by mashing spacebar

[sharp ember]

if heretics learned melee defence like stormvermin we'd be in for a real bad time

or traitors using more equipment

scab bombers but with frag grenades

any scab with the brain to throw frag grenades

[tame lichen]

Why do peope join maeltrom with characters that just hit lvl 30

literal waste of space

[serene sage]

Because

[atomic zephyr]

they dont know any better

?

[bitter turtle]

to personlaly make you suffer of course

not at all becaus ethe game allows them to

but just to fuck with you

[sharp ember]

it's accessible, so clearly the game thinks they're ready

[bitter turtle]

in particular

[umbral scaffold]

Merely a luck issue.

[tame lichen]

[fathom grail]

I just got my zealot to 30 where is loiter

[tame lichen]

Queing maelstrom right now

[bitter turtle]

also if anyone cares from the convo earlier, i shot all three iags at a crusher with well rolled iags

[tame lichen]

pull up

[bitter turtle]

you just lose dmg as you move from columnus to agri but gain precision

https://i.gyazo.com/775f16b897b7b07bc702750bbadd6044.jpg

[tiny summit]

Playing and completing my damnation maelstroms as lvl 20 ogryn when I was leveling

[bitter turtle]

1 crit string on all of them

[tame lichen]

big man strong

[tiny summit]

Literally the chillest class to level

[glossy remnant]

Rate my gun :)

[untold mulch]

Pillow thrower

[toxic leaf]

omnissiah be praised? any better combo of perks for this?

[serene sage]

My simple solution is just not to install True Level mod

[tiny summit]

The spitwad spewer

[nimble sentinel]

this'll be great to take to the airsoft range

[serene sage]

Everyone is equally worthless under my eyes

[umbral scaffold]

That's it, you won Darktide

[tame lichen]

Why do you think i'm complaining lol

[serene sage]

Erm I mean, beside basic reading comprehension?

[tame lichen]

[bitter turtle]

because you have the true level mod

which they said they didnt install

to avoid that exact source of salt

[toxic leaf]

what about the perks? i think maniac is a must, anything better than unyielding?

[bitter turtle]

solution is to delet mod

live in ignorance

[robust drum]

Hey, does anyone know how this interacts with the Revolver? IE does "rounded up" mean that it will replenish 1 round, or does it just not work

[atomic zephyr]

yes

it reloads 1 round

[sharp ember]

pretty snazzy, shame you're missing 1 dodge from the mobility stat but still worth it. Maybe Unyielding to Flak/Carapace?

[untold mulch]

Yep

[sharp ember]

unless you love whacking bosses

[untold mulch]

Revolver can get silly with it

[robust drum]

Cool, not bad.

ty

[serene sage]

Revolver is like a quirked up white boy busting it down sexual style

[misty delta]

what did I just walk into

[bitter turtle]

its pretty annyoing to keep swapping every kill to get the revovler full yloaded tho

at least imoi

lol

not really a fan of the playstyle tbh

[umbral scaffold]

darktide revolver erp (ft. Nurgle)

[untold edge]

get carapace perk and ogryn damage talent and push attack kill crushers

[sharp ember]

i think juggling to reload is hilarious

[untold mulch]

None of those words are in the Holy Emperor Texts

Seek him.

[serene sage]

Imagine the salt when they either buff/nerf the revolver

[toxic leaf]

worth it even if im using plasma to blast them?

[bitter turtle]

it literally is juggling

lmao

[untold mulch]

Oh god true the salt can go both ways

[bitter turtle]

since you swap and shoot once to refresh the aspd

[untold edge]

Its always worth it for histg

[bitter turtle]

its just goofy

[toxic leaf]

k, thanks for the advices!

[untold mulch]

Revolver is achieving too much power and is ridiculous

[sharp ember]

i guess damage would be the first thing to nerf

[umbral scaffold]

New chaos god confirmed?!?!?!?!??!!

[untold mulch]

If they keep buffing it

yes

[serene sage]

Revolver cleave to 1

Instantly balanced

[untold mulch]

How much has it rn

[umbral scaffold]

when ogryns.

[serene sage]

More than 1

[dusk idol]

a lot

[sharp ember]

like 6

[delicate moat]

ogryn dmg perk only applies to the cheeks of the teammate ogryn

[untold mulch]

bruh moment fr

[sharp ember]

a bolter is like, 3?

[bitter turtle]

that's only fair

revolvers can cut through plate armor

[serene sage]

I'm like very serious

[bitter turtle]

in fact it should be higher

[serene sage]

Reduce cleave to 1

[bitter turtle]

it should go through walls

[umbral scaffold]

Any gun can cut through plate armor

[untold mulch]

Revolvers are the Katanas of the gun world

Since those words were spoken to me, I've been a new man.

[delicate moat]

buff cleave to 100

[misty delta]

make it function like plasma :teasip:

[serene sage]

And Revolver suddenly had a weakness while not invalidating its current playstyle

[bitter turtle]

any plate armor another gun can cut through, a revolver can cut through thrice as well

folded 1000 times by american gunsmiths

[umbral scaffold]

Revolver is a Tumblr sexy man of handguns

The God-Emperor shall smite the megalodon if they dare to touch my baby

[bitter turtle]

i know right

[delicate moat]

i have a feeling plasma and revolvo is going to be touched real soon

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/eaca359b53988beb655b22be13b7c723.jpg

do you like my build btw

the ultimate sword and the ultimate gun

[untold mulch]

no nade regen

[delicate moat]

new patch notes:

• carefully adjusted revolver breakpoint to miss 1HP of most specialists

[umbral scaffold]

If only vet had dueling sword

[sharp ember]

i think plasma is ok because it's an ammo guzzler, but revolver basically sustains off regen

[serene sage]

Perfect

[sharp ember]

a reason to run damage aura

[delicate moat]

that'd actually be very funny

[umbral scaffold]

In grim darkness of 41st millennium, the shit aura is only useful for one (1) gun

[serene sage]

Do you ever need more smoke?

[bitter turtle]

lets be real

even if i was actually serious and used that build

the smoke grenades

[untold mulch]

I didn't even notice he was running smoke

then fair

[bitter turtle]

i dont need any more of them

[untold mulch]

[bitter turtle]

lul

as it is

[serene sage]

Like was there a moment that you ask yourself

Man I wish I have smoke grenade right now

[bitter turtle]

i only throw it at the ground

so i can infiltrate

[delicate moat]

oh hell nah, no regenerating smokes

[bitter turtle]

and teleport behind ppl

[delicate moat]

banned

reported

so i know zealot's stealth CD is bugged

is infiltrate CD also bugged?

[sharp ember]

the only times i enjoy smokes are for preventing flamers and trappers from shooting through a horde

[bitter turtle]

bugged how

[sharp ember]

what's wrong with zealot stealth?

[delicate moat]

i had a bro run through half the map in full stealth

[bitter turtle]

isnt that just zealot with their crit cd reduction talent

[gentle heath]

auric is getting pretty fun

[umbral scaffold]

It refunds completely to me sometimes

[delicate moat]

u don't understand, it never expired

[gentle heath]

beside the fact that my m2 finger is crapping from holding it down so much

[bitter turtle]

o

then i dont know

[fallow compass]

#darktide-fan-art message my idea of the recon vet cosmetic

[bitter turtle]

recon bad

wait what

jk good art btw

[plush notch]

you could just pop the infiltrate ability? and not use smokes-

[umbral scaffold]

Like, I go stealth, make a backstab with knife, that cannot cleave five people in one hit, but the ult is completely back

can't replicate it tho

[delicate moat]

where smoke grenade

[plush notch]

you can get way more value out of running krak nades imo- being able to delete crushers or other tankier enemies for your team is incredibly helpful

[sharp ember]

i want scan grenades or something

[delicate moat]

tac awareness grenades

[plush notch]

sure you can run guns that do the same thing- but the Krak names allow you to keep a gun that helps with getting rid of shooters easier

[plush notch]

that would genuinely be so helpful-

also nice pfp

[fallow compass]

That can be on the back somewhere or on the sides of the belt

[untold moth]

Does anyone else have a graphical bug with power sword. Where if you weapon swap, use special and then push, it won’t light up your weapon, but is active

[serene sage]

Original contents? In my Vet chat?

[delicate moat]

faulty battery, consider changing to new ones

[untold moth]

It doesn’t even seem to play the audio queue

[bitter turtle]

you're doing the tech they added

you can cancel the charge with the block

for a faster charge into push attack

[fallow compass]

Yes, the empruh demands the best from us.

[bitter turtle]

stabbo

[untold moth]

Yeah, but it should still light up the sword imo

[umbral scaffold]

Visuals outside f
of initial charge up are barely visible anyway but sounds are weird

[junior needle]

mk3 loses charge on block

[ebon umbra]

imo this is the best reason to run krak

[bitter turtle]

you can run guns that do both

[untold moth]

If they fix the audio queue I won’t mind either way. I just want to see something to let me know that my weapon power is active

[plush notch]

[bitter turtle]

the best reason to run krak is the monstro stun

frags do well against crushers anyway

knockdown a big group so you can slap them around

bleed procs onslaught to soften them up

[dusk idol]

thought they fixed bleed onslaught interaction

[bitter turtle]

the last bugfix was melee not proccing onslaught

i dont remember them removing bleed proccing onslaught

i might be wrong though idk i dont read patch notes lul

[ebon umbra]

i wish i didnt sleep on shredders all of patch 13

kraks were just too fun tho

[serene sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/dy3wICnjL0

[ebon umbra]

time a krak with a crusher overhead

then turn around and look cool

[serene sage]

This is hilarious

Hitbox porn, ig

[untold moth]

I like the bleed grenades. Saves a talent if you’re going survivalist too

[dusk idol]

I started to look at the patch notes and realised I can’t read

so you’re probably right

[bleak tendon]

need gun knowledge, whys punishing salvo shit on accatran las?

[ebon umbra]

getting fucking thwacked in the head by a bomber actually tilts me even tho it does next to nothing

[untold moth]

Are smoke grenades good for anything

[ebon umbra]

bombers making fun of me

[sharp ember]

the huge amount of elite patrols make shredder nades amazing

[untold moth]

It would be neat if they put out fires

[old quail]

bleed does not proc onslaught

[toxic leaf]

servo bot coming in hot

[old quail]

if you go into the psykh with debuff indicator and throw frag nades at any enemies brittleness doesn't show up

[toxic leaf]

only 9000 dockets!

[ebon umbra]

one roll?

[bleak tendon]

cause the salvo blessing seems allright

[sharp ember]

yeah but bleeds sourced from melee does

[dusk idol]

you can always test damage with and without bleed

[kind musk]

Swap the 8% ranged for maniac?

[umbral scaffold]

Kid named Hadron:

[toxic leaf]

the vendor is selling this as white, im not even fishing brunt's armory

[bitter turtle]

I tested back on patch 13

[toxic leaf]

time for hadron to be based

[old quail]

no

[toxic leaf]

or break my heart

[bitter turtle]

Not recently tho

[sharp ember]

that or maniac, very nice

[ebon umbra]

the emperor favors you

[kind musk]

Sorry, maniac is what I meant

[bitter turtle]

Just assumed nothing changed

[toxic leaf]

ok but does hadron favor me

lets find out

[ebon umbra]

the answer is always no

[old quail]

dot doesn't proc onslaught in any case as far as im aware

[ebon umbra]

apparently you have to make 3 hadron fanarts a day to get hadron's favor

[serene sage]

I personally asked her to be nice in DM. Good luck.

[sharp ember]

i remember doing it with serrated edge talent, they'd have to have patched it recently

[fallow compass]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

Hadron's favor? I beg you, acolyte, the one you should pray to is Omnissiah

[toxic leaf]

we take that!

[serene sage]

Change both perks and it's good.

[toxic leaf]

yea its more like not getting useless blessings, would have liked blaze away over shattering impact

[serene sage]

Still nice for team synergy

[old quail]

there was an old bug from p13 where if you bled a single target it would stack onslaught, but 2+ wouldn't

because it wouldnt count as a repeated hit

if more than 1 guy was bleeding

[ebon umbra]

average loose cannon vet moment

[serene sage]

Shattering might do more overall damage, it's just hard to tell

[ebon umbra]

[old quail]

https://streamable.com/8kc1do

[toxic leaf]

the emperor has blessed me today with hadron's favor, first the power sword and then this

[sharp ember]

well shit

[old quail]

there is still an interaction

if you have a thunderous caxe

dot will stack thunderous brittleness stacks

[umbral scaffold]

thunderous cake.

[old quail]

so true

[umbral scaffold]

IN GRIM DARKNESS OF 41st MILLENIUM, THERE ARE NO CAKES

[bitter turtle]

O

That explains it then lol

[frank ether]

this is so sadge

[bitter turtle]

I tested back on 13 but only on one dude smacking with the serrated blade talent to see if it procced onslaught

[untold moth]

This is my build for Columnus infantry auto, using psword as melee. Any suggestions for what may be better?

[frank ether]

rend deez

[dapper vessel]

I keep forgetting to update debuff indicator

[bitter turtle]

No need for suppression immunity

Grab something else

I like desperado

[serene sage]

maybe skip determine if you are melee and get keystone+upgrade?

[old quail]

i never play psword w/o trench fighter now lol

[bitter turtle]

Helps with the pokey stab combo

[old quail]

weapon spec works really good with columnus/ps6 in my experience

[bitter turtle]

You could get the keystones too ye

[dapper vessel]

yuh trench fighter drill and weapon spec is good with a power sword

[old quail]

iags have crit chains, so weapon spec's guaranteed crit at 3 stacks is actually 4 critical bullets

[umbral scaffold]

remove suppression immunity + filler node and get grenades regen

[untold moth]

Desperado doesn’t give me any new breakpoints on damnation

[old quail]

it isnt as huge as a guaranteed revo crit but its still p good

[serene sage]

he already has nade regen?

[bitter turtle]

Your sword is prob better than mine lul

Then yeah just grab keystone

[umbral scaffold]

Ah karking hell, Tzeentch stole my eyes

[bitter turtle]

Personally I'd drop ironwill for demo team but that's just me

[serene sage]

My sword is the biggest in this server

[bitter turtle]

I can't 3shot crushers with my sword without desperado 😔

[serene sage]

not even with 10% melee?

[dapper vessel]

you can push it with agile engagement

[bitter turtle]

I dont have the melee node

[serene sage]

skill issue, clearly

[bitter turtle]

If you mean the one on the right

[dapper vessel]

having carapace 25% can help too

[bitter turtle]

Before agile engage

[serene sage]

the filler 10%

yeah

[bitter turtle]

It prob would do it

It's literally just barely short

[serene sage]

cause mine would also 3 shot, 2 with 10%

[bitter turtle]

It's ok

[frank ether]

better with a shovel

[serene sage]

no it's not

[frank ether]

turn shovel into knife

[bitter turtle]

Bayonet is stronger anyway

[frank ether]

ok maybe not rly but

[old quail]

trench fighter + weapon spec works with any melee weapon

[frank ether]

shovel with %25 attack speed is funy

I recommend

[dapper vessel]

I'd still use weapon spec with a power sword

[untold moth]

I think you’re right. Keystone is probably better than suppression immunity. Is just a bother sometimes with all the gunners. Was feeling cozy

[old quail]

i accidentally duo'd a hi5 with weapon spec shovel

[dapper vessel]

but on shovel youre fucking ZOOMIN WITH YOUR HANDS

[old quail]

the conclusion is

it swings fast

i am not really sold on it being particularly effective but it is usable and it feels cool

[serene sage]

grenade the gunner and reposition

that's what I would do

[dapper vessel]

it helps with Decimator

[ebon umbra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9abb2239-2fef-40e6-b76c-0d0e9f8ee920/plasma-standard?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

anyone give this a lookover for me?

[serene sage]

no

[dapper vessel]

since normally it takes forever to build your stacks with it

[untold moth]

Would you pick up one of the keystone subnodes? Or probably just whatever

[ebon umbra]

i'll write this down

anything else

[dapper vessel]

Tag or weapon spec is what I recommend

[serene sage]

ping+damage on ping

it's not a lot but it's honest work

[untold moth]

Thinking I might just be greedy and give myself 25 more toughness instead