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Cleave reduces damage each target you hit (and no it's not infinie)
Brutal momentum bypasses normal cleave limits
You will hit four enemies with your full damage if lines up and hit in the head, and then your normal cleave calculations take over
So it horde clears faster than any other option, and has a little weakness damage to help your single target combo against crushers and whatnot
Someone's been smoking the krak instead of throwing it
I was with one smoke player recently, they were good and probably helped disable some shooters but its still really annoying that our teams vision is impaired as well.
Its like a player-induced Ventilation Purge
Hope that enemies in smoke get their outlines highlighted or something
You can manage with the lower visibility
Cool, thanks. Your advice has wrought this. Time to give it a whirl!
But on the same note, you shouldn't chuck a smoke for no reason either
I hate you, but great roll, good luck.
This is genuinly the best sword I've managed and I've spent a good bit on it lol
I dunno how much difference the lower cleave targets will make, but I was very happy to get Power Cycler IV on like my 3rd upgraded one
I did have a bunch of good base rolls sitting in my inv
Not when trying to find the Bomber or Sniper
It's nice, but your main things are damage, finese, then cleave damage
Getting like 60% mobility for your fourth dodge is good too
After than then cleave targets is nice
Even then
Follow the laser and ping, or follow the noise and ping
Well, I'll wield it in yours and the Emperor's name :)
Doable normally, harder when during a horde and event
Bombers are of particular strife
i need a bolt pistol
Get in line
how long is the line
Yes
ok, thank you for such useful info
Welcome
good?
ye just cause it's a revolver focused build n I wanna reload n keep firin fast
For most rifles n such tho I just run exil takedown now that it aint bugged af
Harvest terrifying barrage 3 (cuz u don’t have it yet)
It’s bricked
whats bricked mean
well idk about that, cant i just swap sustained fire and infested dmg?
Terrifying barrage is pretty bad
then wtf why get it?
I like it in niche situations
This is good right? dmg differance wont be that big cause its already kinda low
No, but the 30% weakpoint damage from the tree does.
So does agile engagement, bayonet buffs itself by 25%
i guess if you want to do it that way
i usually don't find the need
the stabby stab does pretty well
?
i stab packs of maniacs to death all the time with it
No I mean it literally buffs itself
You get a kill with bayonet and it triggers the melee half of agile engagement
that's.. pretty dope actually
Since you have the gun out already
You just get 25% more damage on the bayonet
Forever
might have to take that now
The attack speed buff and close range damage feats in right tree also affect bayonet
It's silly damage
Can 2 shot a dreg rager
I was hoping for more stagger and even more damage from falter and unrelenting
But sadly they only apply to shots, not stabs
Best keep quiet about this. Fatshark will likely nerf it.
Why it's not like it's practical 😉
Mm yes, very impractical. Niche even.
Only way this could be better is with 10% more dmg ofc still need to fix the perks
good roll?
I prefer DumDum over ReassAccu
yes but that can be changed
is the roll good otherwise? my gut is telling me yes
whys that? cause lack of stagger?
oh wait is that a figure of speech xD
More like the Laspistol gonna make fast af boi
is infernus what u wanna have on this tho? or are there better choices?
Infernus is good, laspistol crits often enough
If you're using Onslaught talent, even better as burn procs it supposedly
How's Infernus on the Kantrael Ia Lasrifle?
pog
is it me
or did the hotfix break something
im literally having 3 second lag

muties running in place, then sudden rubberband and everything lightspeed lol
check your need via speedtest, check your dns settings, flush dns, change dns to cloudflare, restart game+steam
Fellas I'm struggling to decide on a good melee weapon for vet
most ppl go power sword it seems, but im a big fan of the chainsword 
i hear shovels got a buff too, the only bad one is chainaxe honestly
Power sword mk6, devil claw 4, knife, some axe
uncharged power sword feels like a wet noodle
ah yea devil claw for blocks
dont know what axe is the best though
they did my ol power sword dirty, it was OP as hell in the beta
Best perks for shovel?
lol, this is beautiful Melk. Wtf. lol
My arm is tired and I accidently clicked your profile, what a flashbang 
lol
bolter fun but its lowkey a sniper
Doesnt apply fast enough, bis are Headhunter and DeadlyAccurate
that psword is ok if you dont have anything else
What do shredder and penetration do on the chain sword?
shredder is for rev
Shit I did it too, I see the Sun
so how is power sword mk 6 better than 3?
seems like mk 6 just has two more to its light chain
Push attack follow up, wrecks Crushers
you smack horizontally
and ye the push stab is really good
Uh, look at the stats and than look at the blessings. lol
what do
ye cleave is garbage and blessings are meh but if you dont have anything else it can work
reroll perks and be happy
pure hilarity
on revolver should i run maniac, carapace, or unarmored?
maniac and flak
ty
I really need to stop thinking "Maybe this time this knife zealot won't end up being a liability" in aurics.
lol
Every time I decide to give one a chance, they end up choking and never pulling their weight.
Wasting 20 minutes of my energy.
idk why anyone would play knife zealot when big hammer exists
variety
Speed run gang
hot blessing roll god damn
hadron let that slip outta the pile of good stuff accidentally
That stability tho
at least its a helbore so a lotta of recoil is gonna involve reaquiring targets anyway
Ammo arguably a dump stat since helbore basically can recover ammo so easily imo
i know its a dump stat but i dont like reloading all that often when u get one with like 50%
seeing as it does affect mag size
shocktrooper puts ammo back in mag right
indeed
so it dump stat
the psyker shields are so stupid lmao
played a round with two shield psykers, one bubble and one barrier
actual point and click game
that's assuming u crit so much and often u don't really crit as often without letting it stack but also without opening salvo
Surgical makes it guaranteed to get your ammo back for helbore
Perfect for a wep like helbore where u need to do charged shots for more damage
I wish we could slide while holding bayonet and continue running
what perk?
i know just doesnt mean i ain gunna be tap shooting normal shooters anyway
wait wait wait
was that you lmao
was the vet using a columnus?
Ankalis?
YEAH
Reminds me of Kruber with Beastman spear being able to run faster holding heavy
HI
that was a hell of a fuckin round
535 plasteel at the end bruh
99% of my auric histgs have been either close or outright failures so at least that changed
im gonna chill out and go play something else after that tho
bolter low key fkn slaps
that feeling when you got like a bunch of crushers in a hallway
that's true. nothing beats that.
and just dump a full auto mag of boltrounds
mods
weapon customization mod
i feel like HISTG might be harder than maelstrom with the average teammate
in my experience nothing is more difficult than heresy with new teammates that don't know to push poxbursters
this still happens in auric maelstrom
and people shooting bursters when someone else is shoving
Just kite them into your teammates and let them deal with it
happens way too often
tired of getting blown up on shove
worst that happens is that they get boomed and not u 🙂
Changed out the perks but I could kiss Melk rn
nice. rarely see melk offer something worth keeping
Onslaught and surgical seem kinda at odds with each other dontcha think
Would it be better to fire slower and crit every time, or a bit faster and crit most times
personal play style/build
Banger. Absolute poker right there
I wonder if there's any future plans to squash vet's skill trees so you dont have to stretch so far to get to the keystones lol
yeah vets tree seems like the longest for sure
Fr? Pog 
I'd get if you don't have a decent one yet
MK12 would be my main if I wasn’t a Krieg cosplayer
started running helbore with a scope today and its pog
Yeah those perks are pretty solid if youre confident in your headshots
by squash i mean combine stuff to make it shorter rather than take stuffs away. I feel like i gotta drop a lot of stuff to reach keystones and while the keystones are lovely they kinda arent worth compared to what you can build by dipping into multiple trees XP
it is very long, yeah
and theres not many spots to move between sides
My PC can’t run this game, I’m stuck with the hideous iron sights. I love my beautiful helbore though, fight and die
it's better to shoot at full speed, because you're always going to get increased crit chance no matter what
but waiting for it to stack means you're not doing damage at all, and crits don't hit hard enough to offset that
I've got surgical and some other that does more damage to staggered, so i just spam bayonet when they get close and it shreds
reckon its good balance but i don't have other blessings to replace it with
I like the MK1 HB, nice lil balance
I like the bayonet sprint boost
why is your hud weird
oh, ik its a mod, im just wondering why its weird
i just move the status bar up so I can see better
return to normalcy
x2
noob question. whats a really good option for horde clear melee weapon on veteran?
power sword
shovel
no meme answers because i wont be able to tell the difference as well plz
Actually shovel
Melee horde clear really isn't the role for veteran. It's not impossible, but its not going to be as good as oggy or zealot.
power sword, if you are really right for resources and can't fnd Power Cycler 4, Combat Axe 2 is easy to make good, Chain Sword is also good, Shovel is okay
Power Sword kinda "need" Power Cycler 4 by the way, if you don't have it then don't bother
it does happen though, clearly.
Anything with Brutal Momentum will demolish hordes for Veteran.
unironically vet might have the best horde clear in the game
ok thanks for responses
idk man the crusher's pretty nuts
which mk of power sword?
we are the only class in the game that can 2 shot crusher melee I think
except TH
but shovel isnt bad, certainly better than power sword for horde clear
I just need to find out what blessings you want on one
just wondering what to swap around on this plasma?
Oh no
Psword is still OP
With the right blessings
i keep getting this glitch where my weapons fucking vanish and i cant see what im doping
power sword is good yes but shovel is better on pure horde clear
even my devils claw has such good clear but average on carapace tbh
Well isn't the shovel only good on staggering horde?
It won't clear more than control right?
What blessings do you need?
it will clear more because it has good clear, its what it does
it literally says so on the weapon
shovel absolutely loses in a pure horde clear race lol
that's not the strength of shovel
best autogun?
To be fair that means little, we're certainly more interested in the combo chain than what it says on the tin, which I will be fair, the shovel has good combos for hordes, if I recall
But I forgor

whats the dump stat for plasma gun?
Charge rate?
i'm being converted towards thermal dump
Hmmm
columnus infantry autogun is hot right now because of dumdum blessing
From some convo's yesterday charge rate doesn't actually increase the charge speed past a certain point
that is what again?
which blessing?
Base 73%?
But don't quote me on that
dumdum, which gives you damage buff just for shooting the enemy
ah kk
they were probably referring to the unintended property of charge rate affecting damage by a miniscule amount
was it though
that's the first i've heard of it
we even have a pinned post with a spreadsheet of charge rate damage effectiveness
Yeah, it's been fixed
That spreadsheet doesn't matter
Or well
Guh
I guess the thing to look out for is that you don't need 80% charge speed
oh it's from azreal, they have a pretty good head on their shoulders about this kind of stuff
alright then
The difference will be so miniscule
@sharp ember Wait, what info do you got about Thermal Protection dumping?
I'm kinda curious because doesn't it change how many charged shots you can fire?
(Or... left clicks for that matter?)
oh damn
the autogun is insane
one shot in the head for any riflemen(heresy)
crazy fire rate and ammo
bolter is very good rn
oh it definitely will make you lose an uncharged shot if you dump it below 60%, it's just that i value everything else more
Is there anywhere with guidelines on which perks to stuff on which guns?
It’s usually flak and maniac anyway
Sometimes Carapace
The best I can do is uh, ask in the discord
It depends on the weapon but yeah, it's what
Flak, Carapace, Maniac
Take Infested so you can one shot Poxbusters
I mean, I default to Flak usually, just wondering if there was specific by weapon
hmmm
Especially for melee
*nod
been using this for a while, just got t3 power cycler to drop on a piece of junk. I'm guessing replace Rampage?
until I get a better one
I wouuld just ask on the discord, best way to get... varying amounts of credible information
For any specific weapon you want to shooow
not really, but specific weapon guide videos on youtube often highlight alternative perks if they change anything
nod Haven't seen much new info since the weapon rebalances and just am slowly exploring my old sets
I think just condense it to strong blessings
For example, Surgical, Pinning Fire, Dum Dum, Infernus, Deadly Accurate, Shattering Impact are all good blessings
So if your weapon can have them, just take some combinations of those
Infernus is that good?
For certain weapons yeah
It's just a rule of thumb
It's not precise but you can get close enough
like, as an exercise in credible information
Other than Surgical IV, any upgrades I can throw at this
i decided to jump into the psykhanium out of curiosity, my 57% thermal resist plasma can do 7/8 uncharged shots from 0%, and it can BARELY do 3 charged shots, but any hesitation will blow your ass up
so there's a bare minimum in the 60% thermal resist area if you want 8/8 uncharged shots
Not really no
Onslaught might be better than Infernus but it's not a must
no big deal for me to just manual vent if i seriously need to continue firing though
Sometimes you can't aim as fast as you charge
Worth buying off melk for recon?
might be worth investing for when recon rises again eventually
unless tier 3 is like 5.5%
then it's not as huge of a deal
yeah tier 3 is 5.5 
Last I saw, "close" range is still labeled as 8m.
Lol I haven't even researched the tier 3 unfortunately, so it might be worth getting anyways.
Don't remember if the last patch finally fixed that to 15m.
Kantrael question: before the last set of patches, the XII was basically king, has the buffs for the 1a done anything to making it more popular for high level runs?
Higher DPS
invest in columnus 5
In terms of DPS, the MGIa and MG IV outpace the XII. However, in terms of TTK the XII still is faster if you land headshots.
yeah it's the new cool kantrael because of superior fire rate and ammo, while still 1shotting lesser enemies
In practice, all of them are equally viable with playstyle preferences.
And all of them pale in comparison to the revolver and plasma rifle.
Mostly due to talent tree issues.
And the innate state of revolver and plasma currently.
don't the 1a and 12 both use 3 per shot?
yeah, but mg1a has larger pool
and more fire rate with lower damage, so efficiency might still be even
so combine that with common shooters still dropping in 1 headshot either way
but more importantly
it's GREEN 
so ppl use mg1a over 12 now?
Mg1a>mk4>mk12
Kinda? Honestly, I still only see it rarely.
*It's pink
way more than they used to, ultimately up to user preference
Mk4 =< mg1a
In practice, they're all roughly the same in performance. It's just a question of whether you want to headshot a lot or bodyshot more often.
With consistent headshots, the TTK of the XII outpaces the other two on non-basic shooter targets.
I've only seen MGIa's myself.
And only very occassionally.
tree limitation refers to, for example, Universal rending outperforming basically all the other trees?
I preffer 12 over the others because you can one tap everything but columnus is king atm
Just general realities about the marksman focus keystone being lackluster and skippable, the overall talent taxes you have to pay to utilize the talents on the lower part of the tree, etc.
I still enjoy XII, but it's just when you miss the headshot is when it's a problem. At that point its not the gun, its me. 😐
ah, Conceptually I like Marksman focus. In practice It never has enough stacks up to be worth it
I occasionally take out the MG4, but only because i Have the full auto mod
PC4?
LOOK BOYS
Congratulations.
All these Mg1a talks make me want to bring it for a spin
What the fuck
Look at this man. The emperor has answered.
It fires too slowly for me
Sorry, Dirk. I had a feeling you were observing the chat quietly.
@fleet garden you better eat brunt’s cyborg butthole for that
Yayhauhauhay anyway eat that butthole
I didn't get Power Cycler IV until this last patch. great that I have it now
Lol
damn looks juicy
Get up in it and congrats you piece of shit
😆
@fleet garden it literally only hurts because you and I were vibing about this like 2 hours ago
It’s like I lost a brother
A “I don’t have PC4” brother
Krak and a power sword.
He's like, "I left the streets. I'm leaving you behind."
He’s been gentrified
it is finished, for now
God damn it
Goddamn. No chill
Damn son
I can't handle the Mk IV attack patterns. Too used to MK III
What are the best perks for autopistol? Got some sexy blessings and now it’s time to reroll perks
Just get used to spamming light 1 and 2 for horde control.
I also play illisi psyker so I'm super used to Charge, heavy attack, light light light
Pinning Fire + Blaze Away/Calvacade?
It's all right, bro. It can't hurt you.
No pinning fire but blaze away and calvacade
I'm still waiting for my uncanny strike IV for knife.
Been rolling for uncanny strike for what seems like years 😩
Ok dude
It's me
Literally pickin this shit off of trees of here
link
Brunt is about to get a visit from the Tongue Twister
well hard to get a better power sword
all im missing is 5% maniac dmg but it doesnt matter
It does 
It's not perfect
Throw it away

Or hadron. Hadron has been doing me seriously dirty with this shit because I’ve fully leveled like 8 PS and she put PS3 on like every one of them
That cybussy gone stone cold
need a decent roll with fire frenzy/dum dum/raking fire
raking fire and dum dum is the go tbh
6 got that stab
the stab?
That sweet sweet crusher killing block stab
how do I use that? I always just used the 3
Block. Then stab. Then clean your shorts.
one power cycler
two power cycler
one bromentum with no lock
Can you not lmfao
already has a PC4 blessing
Lmfao
whats wong
what should I do with this
I was gonna lose my fuckin mind if it was a PC4 screenshot
Honestly, it's almost impressive how bad this reward I got from the Emperor is lmao.
unless something drastically changes
Well, DumDum is bugged, so we should already disqualify that from future Recon talk on this basis alone. I know FS said they are gonna rework the Recons at some point, but I also wouldn't hitch my pony to a Blessing that isn't working as intended.
After playing around a bit, decided to swap top talents to longshot -> exhilarating takedown
the supposed dumdum bug is bugged to make it better than its supposed to be
so even if its fixed that only makes it even worse
Agripinaa mk1 one headshot every shooter at every range with longshot is just
So so nice
Which allows me to proc exhilarating takedown super easily
the only time I find dumdum outperforming infernus even in its bugged state is if you just dont headshot (so reduced crits to activate infernus reliably)
That is what I am saying.
Don't hitch yourself to it.
Kind of glad I carry a build that doesn't use survivalist. There's always another vet that has it.
Because it's bugged, lol
survialist bugged?
No
How is dum dum bugged?
How is dum dum bugged exactly
survivalist need a rework?
Procs at any range.
how is dumdum bugged
Oh
proccing at all ranges is not a bug
it doesnt say it only gains procs at close range
it's a feature
it is a feature
tis
supposedly its bugged to give the dmg increase at all ranges too but i havent been able to test that out reliably myself
It does indeed.
Zamn
fire frenzy is on mine
whats wrong with pc4
nothing. just that some people have too many of them
some people have none
you mean besides the part where it should not exist
and just be part of the base psword moveset
Man somebody filled this gun with mercury
Didn't they nerf it and add that because it was stronk
Dunno old ps before cycler can do 2 swings at most iirc
its dumb to lock the weapon functionality behind the blessing
just nerf the other blessings instead of gating ppl with rng to actually play the weapon properly
and let them have two
if the psword is busted with 3 swings then its busted with power cycler or not lol
whether its pcycler or part of the base moveset
yeah a class with that kinda ranged power should not have that busted of a melee weapon
i got it on my 3rd psword
it's not perfect but ig it will do
what I need is to be able to deconstruct weapons for mats
but some ppl still dont have it and have been playing since the start lol
Does what it do
just remove it and nerf the other blessings if its too op for psword to have 2 blessings
Fatshark's bewilderment at not knowing what to do with the psword, a microcosm of what they think of Veteran's role in this game.
can someone throw a columnus build at me?
do you want deadshot
pretty pleaes 
nah
but i think I want to try marksman focus with it
whats the best IAG model right now, and blessings?
also - anyone got a good executioner build that would pair well?
colomnus is good right, is it the best one?
its not mm focus though
last 3 points go anywhere
i take desperado because lmao knife
hmm
i find it hard to do marksman focus on automatic weapons that like having onslaught
cause then you have to dip right
then dip mid for 6s cd reduction on specialist kill
and then go full left tree
you could do this tho
just not sure if its actually any better
i cant do that since no desperado tho
so i havent tried it
im running something very similar
is exec stance worth it ?
exec is good as hell
ya i only use it with helbore for the swap more than anything
since it lets me melee more
boy I do need onslaught to make a dent to carapace
yeah
Woe a Krak upon thee
i mean the gun is perfectly fine without it if you pair it with an anti-carapace melee
or krak or something ye
but personally I dont see a reason not to take it over anything else
Sometimes I hit f because the perk right below the chain for it grants bonus damage to your team for 5 seconds when you activate your ability
PC4 sword feels good
And I just swap back to melee
can easly get 3 charged hits
the damage falls off with distance
you can grab a blue columnus and verify that there is some significant damage falloff coming from dumdum
just get one with dum dum, fire frenzy/raking fire smh
Power sword 4 looks more light weight, does it have better mobility or just a different moveset
ya i just dunno if that's coming from the natural weapon falloff or something idk
i couldn't disprove or prove it decisively
you can also do a control without dumdum
so i always asterisk* it
and compare your results with dumdum slapped on
Make sure you take off sniper on your perks if you take it
yeah, I did it without talents taken

good to know
the close damage portion is only prefixed before the damage
i always felt like ppl were mistaking the "stacking all distance" to be a bug
it says nothing about the repeated hit trigger condition
yeah
reading comprehension pls
cause the description does not imply it only stacks at close distance
from what I can read it stacks close range dmg at any ranges but you get that dmg at whatver close range dmg
either 8 or 15 m
nevermind the build is paper thin lmao
there is nothing to stop the pack of mauler from charging you
that's what the frag nades are for
you should be able to mow them down with column onslaught
while they're grounded
and you have both nade regen perks so it should always be up anyway
oh lmao
Feeling extra squishier today.
shovels are supposed to be good right?
Nice a take a swinf
Takr a swing is probs imo a hidden gem blessing that sounds fun
ive got a take a swing +trauma roll
what is the best way to try to target power cycler 4 on power swords? spam buy weapons at the vendor and upgrade the 360s I get to blue? to orange?
you just gotta suffer
orange
blue chances of IV blessings are much lower
ive upgraded like near 20 blues and 10 oranges and nothing
Or have luck when melk pulls a power sword with it from limited store
suffer well
having pc4 feels really good, getting 3 swings in easly now
im like 20k in, god speed
Still addicted to chainsword
shhh stop trying to scare me ;3 I'll get it first try! or well 5th try I guess because I've upgraded a few already
chainsword is good but not power sword good after nerfs
I hope the Emperor grants you rng
chain can do horde clear, but its a single target thing to me compared to PS, to me they do different roles
Join damnation game
Level 17 in lobby.
Leave
Rejoin
Thrown into mid mission with same level 17
Give him a chance
he goes down twice within minutes of each other
"Dude maybe you should level up before you play damnation you're kind of fucking us"
"No"
just carry him smh
thanks 
"no."
i got flamed earlier doing a damnation with 2 sub 30s and one of them flamed ME despite being 2x anyone elses damage and the lowest damage taken
We didn't pick him up after he died and he was like wtf really
this but unironically
No
i dont pick up bots either, same thing imo
normal dam isnt that hard if you have played lots of auric
i know what i sign up for when i dont queue auric
im just there to goblin the plasteel anyway
same
It's one thing if you're pulling weight, it another thing if you're just dying constantly
well I die sometimes in auric but thats vet life
i get oneshot on damnation, but im a decent glass cannon
I just play damnation
I could be way more tanky if I would play shout melee but I dont want to, sharpshooter is the way
I shout but the shout kinda sucks now
Omly get oneshot if dunked by ninja crusher
i play plasma shout and i do top dps and never get downed
They really should increase their volume
I think it's a client issue
maulers one shot me sometimes
if oyu dont want sub30s then just queue auric
It's a massive ogryn covered in metal it should be loud as shit
you cant really blame him for queueing something he is allowed to queue into
well
then carry
Mauler crusher Overheads are insta down
Or votekick
play devil claw
that's unironically being toxic
votekick should be done for ppl legitimately griefing
not being bad
Votekick doesn't solve the real problem
Fun stuff
Expecting 30s to carry you while you're getting shit on in a difficulty you clearly shouldn't be playing in isn't toxic at all lol
if you want to farm plasteel just git gud, its really easy to carry modifierless damnation, low int esp
It was hi intensity gauntlet
if he's allowed to queue then you can't blame them for being there lol
saw people talking about power cycler and whilst im an ogryn main i thought maybe ill give it a go
2nd power sword
complain at obese feesh
maybe they're new, maybe they wanted to try it, you dont really know lol
Nice
teammates are part of the difficulty
i dont mind lower levels joining 4s, but maybe you should be like, 28+ to join damnation
if you dont want to deal with sub30s just dont queue normal
If I'm allowed to votekick him for playing like shit on purpose then he can't blame me either
I'd just play premades if you don't want those players
I want plasteel
I just click auric dam qp and hope for the best
THE POWER CYCLER 4
THE POWER CYCLER IS REAALLL
yeah but that takes friends
votekick is inherently based on a trust system
you can votekick someone for bad reasons
Premades aren't much better than pubs 
i'd expect people here to be better than average
And you can queue in damnation for bad reasons
i can votekick all non-vets
that's not his responsibility to determine
apart from the mediocre stats can this be made usable
like being toxic to someone doing bad is literally league player-tier behavior lmao
ye, slaughterer to power cycler and crit damage to whatever, but I like +carapace
I think you might be forgetting that the rest of the lobby also voted yes for some reason
oh wait mk3
if you cant survive or at least least hold your own in a diff, you shouldnt be joining it expecting to be carried imo
i have no idea what to put on an mk3
i wont flame them for it but
Mk3 do be dooky
its a sample size of one game, ive joined AMs where I died immediately because of a perfect whirlwind of circumstances
meanwhile in most games i top chart on dmg and elites killed
Oh this seems like a spicy convo, what’s the topic
that's why i dont say anything if ppl are throwing
It sounds like you are guilty of this lol
unless they're an asshole in chat
Which they were
Something about not be able to solo all situations for a period of time.
if you're like 20 and join 4 maels or 5s, and you're not a god that can manage it, just dont
nothing wrong with that
Oh my bad when I mean dooky I mean i dunt get it
Okay dude.
Mk3 seems simple as is
you cant join a 5mael if you're sub 30
or does normal mael pop 5 maels sometime idk i never look at it lmao
Tbh the only way to get better is to play higher difficulties
After you level up yes
do they divide mission requirements based on modifiers?
pretty sure only auric spawns the full blown 5maels
Just say gg and go next lmao is there any consequence to losing
anyway anyone pretending they've never made a mistake in a game is full of shit lmao
Not like there's an mmr or smth 
Auric spawns the hardest maelstroms yeaa
im not saying you gotta be perfect, but be realistic, you cant do 5s sub 30 unless you're really good at the game
I explained thats literally what I did. I just left the lobby and requeues
What do auric enemies do anyway
and most joining to be carried arent that good
Auric is just a guarantee of harder missions
just slaps on extra modifiers
Some of the people in here don't touch grass so that's a foreign concept
and auric missions dont spawn with low int iirc
auric also has a hidden +50% tension modifier since patch 13
Auric has a higher "tension modifier" too
too slow
Like... stat bump in general?
So a auric hi int is different from a normal hi int
No
no, shit like "hunting ground/high int/etc"
didnt know about the tension modifier change, that too then
tension is basically shorter intervals between spawns as far as I remember
Auric is guaranteed hi-int/hunting ground
You get more bosses, more patrols, more daemonhosts etc
all the normal missions tend to spawn with only one modifier or low int as a modifier
auric to me just feels like endless spawns, compared to normal stuff
I had 3 in one missions once
Ah mb i think the one I was thinking was the nurgles blessing got things mixed up
Sheesh
Auric is basically “Welcome to hell, try surviving” for most
Do theydrop legendaries
Tbh
Auric is mainly "I hope you brought a functioning build"
like vent purge sniper on torrent
not any more than anything else
Anyone stating normal auric are easy
or doesnt seem to
are usually good at the game
Lol
trying to climb down that tower with like 105821058 gorrillion snipers and vent purge is 
Average player would shit bricks in a normal Auric
really fun tho
Holy shit did they up gunner damage? Thing eats right through 148 toughness.
Counter sniping gamers
i like auric but i only have like, 2 builds that can do it and i dont like spamming the same build
I’m sobbing in these malice lobbies leveling vet
So what's the benefit of auric, plasteel, better weapon drops? Or is it just flagellation
nvm normal mael can spawn 5 intensity lul
one literally just spawned
til i guess
Got it
It’ll spawn but it’ll have less modifiers
Usually 1-2
Auric mael has 3-4
ya
Would it really kill them to make auric have better rewards to match it's difficulty lol
the person who literally already is complaining about unqualified players playing on higher difficulties
Harder (more enjoyment for those thinking regular is too easy) mainly
Auric Damnation Maelstrom should give 380 rolls.
is asking to motivate unqualified players to play in higher difficulties than they should for increased rewards 🤔
keep it as is
ppl who play auric mael do it for fun
and it should stay that way
Lol.
I wish I could actually hit heads consistently so I could get use out of exhilarating takedown
on my 25
Mkay it probably won't
ya i just said earlier
A lot of fresh 30s walk into aurics
til lmao
as if one spawned just to inform me that they can spawn as 5's
same
Hard to find auric run in asia
idc if we lose tbh
It’s how you get good at the game

even if we lose i always make it a point to try to top elite/specialist kills and dmg
I only care if you join but are running gray weapons and a shit talent tree
Long as there’s an honest effort, all good in my book
honestly
teh games that go sideways
are the most fun anyway
im disappointed when we finish an AM with no problems
Just like squishing punies
Y'all should play dwarf fortress
the only time i was tilted was in the very last room 2 ppl ran off, died, and quit the other day lol
we could have won but idk they ragequit i guess
Do you burn forests?
Turn them into bins
the last 2 of us couldn't clear it out fast enough to advance objectives and got attritioned
Even better
explain to me why you aren't using the aggrippina shotgun with left tree


I love my agri shotgun
Should've carried harder bro
i should have 😔
if you're in damnation or auric and cant dodge mutants/trappers/dogs, you should not be in those diffs, period
Im loving the new buckshot bleed build
that shit annoys me
even topping dmg and elites killed didn't make me feel better there 😔
Hmm... Smoke is niche, but it is a clutch grenade for when you enter an open room full of gunners.
You dodge all the disablers no one says a word.
But you get hit by one disabler, ppl go crazy
just play perfect true 
only time ppl shouldn't get hit by disablers is when they're wandering solo
This makes it difficult.. I want to kill armor with krak, but I also need to be able to kill gunners..
You need them fish eyes.
i mean everyone gets hit by them on occasion but like, if you consistently get hit by them i mean
being near my team is nice for tunnel visioning because they'll probably save me most times when a mutant/dog/trapper gets me when I'm tunnel visioned
In the name of the Hammer gods, always spin
ya if my team is near me and i hear a trapper noise but im busy killing a bunch of snipers ill just do a quit dodge and pray it works without actually checking which direction they're coming from lol
more worth just killing the snipers and flipping a coin to get hit
if they're near they can just un-net anyway
someone has to gather the resources
i dont disagree unironically
sadly I have to do it with my marksman focus vet
I have literally no defense
js when you do it you need to consciously decide "i actually need to watch my back"
no way to do it any faster
but pubs are like
"we gotta stat pad"
so I just go gather plasteel while they do their thing
nothing irritates me more than running back to where they were and seeing unopened boxes
I watch true solo players and see how safely they play, rather be safe than sorry
yea true solo players
Ngl I wanna try
Doing true solo
I watched like true solo plays
and true solo doesnt give rewards
90% of the game is kiting and running around
So often. Or seeing a stack of 25 plasteel right next to the ammo they grabbed, but refused to pick up
im not sure if that's the thing im into lol
its o k
just turn on plasteel pickups on your scoreboard
so you can infliate your ego points
and then call them scrubs in postgame chat
Yea kiting is important to learn if you want to clutch last man standing moments
Gotta make the heretic train CHOO CHOO
yes thats what I do. If I see lobby trying to stat pad I just chill and loot around
I had one assassination boss I had to loop him around the arena just so I can pick people up
you can do both
and then there is an airlock right
they all go sit there
and I just chill and pick up mats

im giving this a try
That's when the 'go here' ping shows up
idk what my team is even doing half the time
And I'm just pinging all the pickups
their best
they were doing their best
I only ping go here when DH blocks common route
Or random monster
thinking it was a target
Real hero
mfw
Someone please send help.
i guess I was running the ping keystone
I always do that too for dreb hayko
so in his infinite wisdom the ogryn shot
I'm an exec stance MG XII Vet for Throne's sake.
Ogryn shoot what Sah tells us to
Simple as
truly
I should not be carrying this much weight.
There are definitely newer players who have never seen a DH before and take the ping as 'attack this'
this is auric t5 right?
Yes.
lies
Yeah it was uh, painful to watch.
He was just spamming purgatus at mutants at point blank.
hey guys whats the dump stat on a plasma gun?
Same as the other psyker, unfortunately.
tbf
Probably Thermal Res, but you don't want it too low either
the 2nd place guy killed almost as many specialists/elites
at least you didnt have something like
this
21, 70, 76
then 180
lmao
at least someone was picking up the plasteel
Why did you censored it xD
if only that was not a power sword 
Why xD
idk habit
Bruh you dox other ppl but not yourself
yeah fuck the other ppl

Now for a real question, why does Fatshark only allow a maximum of 20 people on your blocked list?
well bye bye plasteel 
