veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

would open up precision strikes for you

[nimble sentinel]

toughness is also shared, you might end up saving their lives long enough to do something useful

[bitter turtle]

ya ive saved ppl from bursters with shout lol

the overtoughness makes you take 0 dmg

(and myself)

cause fuck bursters

[nimble sentinel]

do not fuck the bursters

[mystic belfry]

I run a full support build on pubs

[astral blade]

Ehh if people don’t know how to push bursters away I won’t bother running VOC

[bitter turtle]

too late, someone's already drawn explicit pictures of them

[minor copper]

Ok so after playing veteran for a while and testing various builds I think ammo regain is the best aura it benefits you and your team the best.

[bitter turtle]

that's not the problem, sometimes they come out of doors and shit or they're distracted

like tbf, people make mistakes that are understandable all the time, shout helps a lot

if they're charging into bursters then they prob would die way before one even shows up lol

i still dont know why the spawn doors are soundproof lmao

[astral blade]

A burster is so bloody obvious plus if a burster is running at me and it’s in the middle of a horde I will gladly switch to my melee and push that fucker away

[minor copper]

I hate when people blow up the poxburster in my face when I am about to push it

[astral blade]

Letting him blow up in that horde

[bitter turtle]

ya I mean, that's the ideal

[minor copper]

Best way to deal with it

[mystic belfry]

Also, even if your full toughness, shout is a push

[bitter turtle]

but not everything always goes smoothly in AM

[minor copper]

Why waste ammo if you can push it and kill enemies with it

[bitter turtle]

im not ashamed to admit i get hit sometimes lol

[astral blade]

Ha well I don’t play in am whatever the heck that means

[bitter turtle]

auric mael

[mystic belfry]

Yeah…

[astral blade]

Ahhh I see yeah I play in auric damnation

[nimble sentinel]

because the zealot might look at me moving to push it away and think that's the best time to unload what's left of their revolver

[astral blade]

But it’s so hard to find a match most of the damn time in Oceana servers

[bitter turtle]

also shout can be p clutch if a firebomb drops on you

hop out and shout the team back to full toughness

[astral blade]

For auric damnation

Hence why I’m usually stuck running regular damnation

[minor copper]

Sorry for you mate

We need to fix ping

[astral blade]

Unless your a fellow Oceana you probably ain’t sorry

[minor copper]

Could you imagine a world with no ping

[minor copper]

I still can feel sorry for you

Im European

[astral blade]

Ahhh fair fair literally got the 3 builds for auric damnation

[haughty nymph]

Does shock trooper (crit consumes no ammo) work on recon lasgun? I'm having problems testing it in meatgrinder

[astral blade]

As indicated by the top right of this photo

[nimble sentinel]

recon crit rate got borked, try the MG IV or Hellbore II

[bitter turtle]

refunds the first shot only in a string

they nerfed it couple patches ago

unjustly I might add 😔

[haughty nymph]

kk I guess that's what I was seeing

[bitter turtle]

its a dumpster weapon now

[astral blade]

The fist icon for VOC and the scope icon for exe stance

While the medic icon for invis

[untold mulch]

Completely

Bullpup hate must stop 🗿

[astral blade]

Seriously does no use the icons to symbolise their builds?

[untold mulch]

I use it somewhat

[untold mulch]

My laspistol infiltrate build I added the lightning? one, because I use it heavily aggresively

[bitter turtle]

i use icons

targetting reticule for vraks

3 bullets for column

[untold mulch]

Beefcake

I am in your walls

[bitter turtle]

explosion icon for all the nades

[astral blade]

40k lore question are there veteran medics?

[sterile phoenix]

Guardsmen medics? Yes

[nimble sentinel]

afaik all modern soldiers have some first aid training

[astral blade]

Kinda curious as to why we vets don’t have that sort of tree or something some ability to heal allies outside of using a Med kit or Medicare

[untold mulch]

Yes, some are specially trained for it

I reember the Only War rpg having a specific class for it

Though lore wise, the Hospitallers are more popular

[untold mulch]

I doubt we will get healing without very specific conditions

Health management/economy in this game is important

[astral blade]

I know but never hurts to dream

Still would be nice if fat shark would add another branch tree to vet to allow for a medic vet branch of the vet tree

[minor copper]

Most soldiers are fire fighters too

[nimble sentinel]

I know there's Field Improv that boosts healing and cures some corruption, also that perk for running faster to injured teammates plus there's always screaming about how dying is cringe and they stand right back up

[untold mulch]

Rn I want a Gunner

Vet is lacking into the I have your name in my ammo belt, AND I WILL FIND IT

[minor copper]

Agree we need LMGs

[untold mulch]

GunLugger kinda do the job, but is not the same

[nimble sentinel]

"I borrowed this book from the 4 foot space marine looking fellow for the explicit purpose of unaliving you"

[astral blade]

Yeahhhh those field improv is nice and all but it’s well kinda well ehh and leave no one behind is ehh as well

[nimble sentinel]

I agree with the others but FI is amazing if you can spare the points

[spark hamlet]

Isn’t that just the stubber the ogryn has

[minor copper]

I feel like if you don’t have VOC or infiltrate your chances of picking up teammates while there is a horde is very little

[astral blade]

I mean if vet had some sort of drone like you see the ones are that the floating skulls

[minor copper]

Yeah but human sized . Ogryn has an anti air gun

[astral blade]

That could potentially revive teammates or heal them

[minor copper]

I want a cherub that carries more ammo for me

[astral blade]

That be nice

[nimble sentinel]

you mean the servo skull? afaik in lore those are not super duper common and don't really do much

cherub might be more of a zealot thing, SoB are their main users

[minor copper]

There are cherubs on the battlefield that carry ammo

[astral blade]

Yeah the servo skull I’m fairly sure that in the lore of 40k I’m sure there are servo skulls used for medical purposes

[minor copper]

There are combat skulls tho

[astral blade]

Yeah the medicae skull

[nimble sentinel]

fair enough my main lore source was listening to adeptus ridiculous while working nights

[minor copper]

Those are medi skulls

There are a lot of variants

[astral blade]

Still those be pretty cool if vet had access to both medi skulls and combat skulls

[minor copper]

Oh yeah I agree

[spark hamlet]

looks at the sky-fire turrets which are likely quad-barrelled autocannons
I wouldn’t call the ogryn heavy stunners anti air

[astral blade]

Would honestly make sense for a “combat medic veteran” to have a medi skull or a combat skull

[minor copper]

We saw a servo skull in one of the concept arts

[spark hamlet]

Like I get where you’re coming from and I’d love to have the gunner fantasy, akin to a dreg/scab gunner

But I don’t see GW letting that happen

[minor copper]

Well you are right but look at the calibre irl that is anti air

[spark hamlet]

We’re not soace marine devastators

[nimble sentinel]

it would be nice but we are also canonically cannon fodder, might not be worth giving us a whole servo skull

[astral blade]

I mean probably make it a ability modifier for vet choosing which skull you want to use

[spark hamlet]

I’m surprised they let last chancer’s get plasma guns and power swords

[astral blade]

I mean we have to use a Servo skull in some missions

[spark hamlet]

That hadron lends us

[minor copper]

We do use data interogator and a servo skull in 2 different missions tho

[nimble sentinel]

yeh, shared with the whole squad and Hadron threatens to turn us into its replacement if we lose it

[spark hamlet]

Oh is that a threat

I just read it as “I will expert a replacement”

[minor copper]

That’s a promise

[spark hamlet]

“I will look to you for a replacement”

[minor copper]

Ogryns are exempt from that right ?

[spark hamlet]

Yeah now that you mention it

[untold mulch]

Yeah, is a threat

Break it, AND YOU WILL BECOME THE REPLACEMENT

[minor copper]

So the arbities and hive hangers use servo skulls why not us too

[spark hamlet]

Stop asking questions, varlet

[untold mulch]

I want a Gun-Skull

because they are amusing af in design

[astral blade]

Keep in mind we are technically part of the “warband” by the end of the story

[untold mulch]

Shame there is barely no art of them

Yeah

[astral blade]

So it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility for us to be able to use a servo skull for combat or medical

[nimble sentinel]

I suppose so, I do admit tho it would be fun to outsource revives

[plucky agate]

Left tree is tedious, but damn it does feel good when you can 1 shot a mutant

[untold mulch]

Yeah the damage boost is nice af

But the hassle of using it, ain't worth imo

[spark hamlet]

I tried the plasma gun

Help me kick the addiction

[astral blade]

Being able to revive teammates by using a servo skull while we continue to fight the horde bearing in mind it be using the resource ability

It’s a good balancing idea

[spark hamlet]

Xcom 2 specialist moment

[astral blade]

Heh someone caught on quickly

[spark hamlet]

Active ability to either revive someone, fix a data interrogator, or some mild combat boost

[nimble sentinel]

that explains accuracy in pubs

[spark hamlet]

I don’t mind accuracy in pubs but shit coordination

[untold mulch]

Yeah

[spark hamlet]

That said I’ve been binging malice to get flawless execution

Got to five missions

“Wait what do you mean part 1 of. 3”

[astral blade]

Still those it’s a wonder how there isn’t a suggestion area in this discord

[spark hamlet]

“15 missions in a row on malice without getting downed”

I’m up to 11

Had a few touch and go moments but baring any atrocious luck it should be doable

[astral blade]

Pretty sure someone in the community would come up with some awesome ideas

For the 4 classes

[spark hamlet]

You’d think, but then you’d end up with the culling

Followed community input so much the game lost all identity

[untold mulch]

Also there is the thig about game dev

[spark hamlet]

I would imagine the suggestions Chanel would feel like shouting into the good

Void

[untold mulch]

The average player is exceptionally good at spotting that SOMETHING is wrong and feels bad

but their feedback is utter trash

[spark hamlet]

Leading back to the lmg Rambo thing

[untold mulch]

🗿 I want a Hellgun

I will get it

[astral blade]

Shame

[spark hamlet]

What if we just tripled the magazine of braced auto guns, lowered mobility a little, gave them a belt feed

And called it a day

[astral blade]

What an LMG?

[spark hamlet]

Well, yeah

[untold mulch]

So just reworking brautos into LMGs

ngl

Idk why they weren't by design

[spark hamlet]

Rather than a whole new weapon… what if you tweaked something that fills a similar role

[astral blade]

That makes sense

[spark hamlet]

Numbers might not change a huge amount but some new models / textures :/ animations

And boom Rambo fantasy get

[astral blade]

I mean don’t we already have some picture of a gunner in the vet tree with a machine gun

[viral garnet]

Why not just use what the dreg gunners have just not chaos tainted

[untold mulch]

Yep

And goddamn he is BALLIN

[viral garnet]

Same with the squad leader cosmetics I want and all the other vet stuff yet released why

[astral blade]

Guess we can only wait and see what part 2 provides in December

[viral garnet]

Hopefully it brings us more free stuff

[astral blade]

Because if I remember correctly someone mentioned about data mining and some new weapons

That was on this discord

[viral garnet]

Ye hope we get new free kit and weapons

[nimble sentinel]

afaik all the assets for a bolt pistol are already there, might be getting a long las too

shock trooper intensifies

[viral garnet]

Cuase there are cosmetics just called squd leader tier 1 2 etc in the files

[delicate moat]

i love silent bombers

[bold sierra]

bro

where power cycler

consecrated two power swords in a row

get the exact same blessings

[viral garnet]

Oof

[nimble sentinel]

https://youtu.be/--9kqhzQ-8Q?si=LCjImS2cTQViQrKT&t=36

[astral blade]

So what makes mobility a “dump stat”

[nimble sentinel]

moving slower while aiming < moving faster while not actually killing anything

[uncut nymph]

Personal preference

[bold sierra]

I mean it varies from wepaon to weapon

I like the combat knife specifically because it lets you run fast

unfortunately all 4 of the other combat knive's stats are important so

[astral blade]

Heh I can actually see a medi skull cleansing corruption/wounded bar as well would consider that a ability modifier

[uncut nymph]

A good rule of thumb (imo) is that none of the stats on a weapon should be below 60

[nimble sentinel]

you really oughtta try FI if you have the point(s) to spare

grenades from ammo crates too

[astral blade]

No I mean like outright cleansing a full bar of corruption

[bold sierra]

the 2 plague ogryns when I place down an infinite well of krak grenades (ammo crate):

[astral blade]

That has already happened example getting downed

[astral blade]

But taking that ability modifier would increase the CD by 50% for the medi skull

[vague hull]

huh, didn't know about this blessing, should I get it for the sake of getting it?

man-stopper i mean

[bold sierra]

manstopper is really funny

[spark hamlet]

Cleave on a shotgun?

[strange fog]

What's the best gun if I just want to volley fire and click heads

[nimble sentinel]

MG IV

[eternal sable]

If you're using a keystone you are noob

https://tenor.com/view/catboy-anime-anime-cat-boy-og_hv-gif-26280365

[fleet garden]

what are you rolling on your columnus V?

[nimble sentinel]

Ia also doing good work, XII will suffice but the others hit the same break points with faster fire rates

[heavy parcel]

anything that u can shoot head

[nimble sentinel]

if you're going left tree you can take shock trooper, which means more ammo to click on mroe heads

Hellbore's are also good but the sights need adjusting to

[umbral scaffold]

even lasguns?

[jaunty marsh]

Hello fellow veterans

[umbral scaffold]

i have a good recon lasgun that i alwasy wanted to use

[vivid ocean]

im still pissed they hit the passive nodes because of keystones

fuck

[eternal sable]

autogun players are coping so hard

lasgun players too

[vivid ocean]

literally the only thing that doesnt feel worse is plas

[eternal sable]

"just wait to hit the recoil ceiling then you will hit all your shots"

[fleet garden]

crabwalk gang

[nimble sentinel]

my copium is pineapple flavored bet you're jealous now

[vivid ocean]

mango or bust

[south garnet]

In theory it makes sense, in practice because it's so much more expensive to reach keystone let alone max them out (a fool's errand for all but middle tree anyway) and there are no crossover nodes in the last half of the tree for no good reason, it's shit

[vivid ocean]

remove born leader

cut out some of the mini nodes

[eternal sable]

just play zealot

[vivid ocean]

i just play oggy

[eternal sable]

veteran is boring as fuck after 700 levels

[vivid ocean]

zeal is what i play when i want bosses to instantly disappear

[south garnet]

Why did nobody consider that they should probably count the minimum required number of nodes before keystones for each class

[vivid ocean]

oggy is what i play when i wanna win

[nimble sentinel]

730+ tertium's gonna break before I do

[vivid ocean]

godspeed

[eternal sable]

no psykers allowed

[vivid ocean]

with a face like that

yeah

[south garnet]

Maybe just glance at another class tree before pulling the trigger on locking you into a specific channel for half the tree

[eternal sable]

idk how people can play psyker

its like the most beta class

[jaunty marsh]

Me like gun

Pew pew

[south garnet]

Playing psyker became more tolerable once cosmetics were available that make it look like you do leave your mom's basement every now and then for reasons other than comic con

[tender pasture]

meanwhile, Vet cosmetics

armour treated like a Mac on a university campus

[untold mulch]

Fatshark QA team are manned by Ogryns

[tender pasture]

yeah bro you really need the 5 autogun rounds taped to your pauldron when you have a lasgun

[celest vine]

Its for zealot when he misses his revolver shots

[tender pasture]

pre typo that's the vet

[south garnet]

No, shits was accurate

[tender pasture]

pop a squat for a shit

[nimble sentinel]

hehe steel legion coat go swoosh

[celest vine]

[tender pasture]

Atoma is designated

Nurgle already got there, can't do much worse than that

when I roll my zealot as minimum height so I don't block vets, and now they squatting to not lose stacks

[vague hull]

imma get it then

gonna spend melk bux today... there's a psword with lv3 energizer

[delicate moat]

i wish u can ban maps when matchmaking for quickplay

[tender pasture]

12 carnivals today?

[delicate moat]

yep

[minor copper]

I like the carnival

[south garnet]

Just give me the ability to turn off crossplay. You know, like console can

[minor copper]

Console can turn off crossplay but we can’t?

[south garnet]

Apparently, yes

Ain't that a kick in the head?

[minor copper]

Classic FS

[delicate moat]

so, what kinda quickplay session is this

I join, there's no human teammates

[fleet garden]

its like that in every game

[minor copper]

It’s your Quickplay

[south garnet]

You got there just in time, that server was self harming

[minor copper]

Do you guys sometimes see a screenshot of this game and know exactly where in the game that is and think damn I spend too much time on this ? …. Me neither

[delicate moat]

i mean, if u play enough, u will eventually remember the maps

[south garnet]

I have a mental tally of every rtarded corner and how many rtarded deaths I've seen/had in it

[delicate moat]

wait but like the screenshot i posted

[minor copper]

Amazing

[delicate moat]

isn't that the first encounter

[minor copper]

It is across the bridge

Like secondish encounter

[delicate moat]

oh i think it's because it's HISTG and they wiped too quick

[minor copper]

Some teams never pass the bridge cause of gunners and snipers I had some really funny moments on that bridge

[umbral scaffold]

pewdiepie had some funny moments on bridges too

[minor copper]

I don’t understand that

[south garnet]

You can tell in the first two encounters how well your team is gonna gel, and if you haven't fallen into a rhythm shortly thereafter you are in for a grind if not an actual loss - usually indicative that 2-3 people will end up dying and only playing more soberly after you rescue them the first time, if at all

I suspect that's why people tend to quit quick if they quit at all

[minor copper]

Or they leave cause they have to watch you

[south garnet]

That too. Especially on auric dam if you die you might as well make dinner

[minor copper]

Happens to me everyone I play executioner stance vet

[vague hull]

how do you make good use of it?

[slender turtle]

Whats the difference between the mk6 and mk3 PSs?

[south garnet]

Mk6 has disgusting charged block combo that chews crushers

[sour elbow]

I thought there were only mk3 and 4

[minor copper]

The push Stab ?

[slender turtle]

Ahh. but not much else then

[south garnet]

There's no mark 4

[south garnet]

Yep, but keep hitting lmb

[slender turtle]

Yet

[minor copper]

I should try that sword I rarely play power sword

[south garnet]

Power cycler is required arguably on both to make them tolerable, but especially the mk6

[slender turtle]

I met a lvl 1279 veteran two days ago

[south garnet]

Otherwise they're dogshit

[eternal sable]

ive seen many 900+ level players that are garbage at the game

hours dont equal skill

[minor copper]

Some people are simple they like to cosplay a guardsman

[slender turtle]

So ive seen and it hurts more to be betrayed by what you would hope be a good player

[eternal sable]

its like those people who have thousands of legauge of legends games

and are silver or gold

same thing in this game

[slender turtle]

I suppose but my brother in christ

theres 3 other classes

[south garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-chosen-one-the-one-the-chosen-one-gif-4608823

[tender pasture]

even good players get rused by lack of audio cues

or someone trolling with a barrel

you get a sense pretty quickly from watching their toughness and health bars within the first couple encounters

[gleaming turtle]

Or just not caring

[young sequoia]

or they smoke

[gleaming turtle]

I literally half-ass most games because it's not going to matter at the end of the day.

[south garnet]

It does happen. The latter rarely does though as you should take care to develop your 7th sense ("I see barrels")

[gleaming turtle]

Whoa? I did the MOST DAMAGE? Who cares? It doesn't make the game go faster, and I don't get any more rewards.

[tender pasture]

dopamine

[young sequoia]

man i just shoot the barrels before something can go wrong now

[gleaming turtle]

Dopamine is the gacha game with Hadron so she can brick my weapons, not BIG NUMBER.

[tender pasture]

I have control over BIG NUMBER

fuck the gacha game, I engage with it as little as possible

[south garnet]

I was in a hi 5 and two people insisted on taking grims. We had been doing poorly up to that point so I ask "why grims?" And one replies "money LOL"

[tender pasture]

these the kinda mfs who pop a new card when they're sitting on 20 in blackjack

[south garnet]

So we end up losing, I go "extra money huh?" He says "IT WOULDNT HAVE MATTERED THERE ANYWAY DUDE SHUT UP" and left

[glacial ermine]

Whats the best melee solution for ragers as vet

[south garnet]

Lol

(It would have btw, wound calc)

[gleaming turtle]

Power Sword

[glacial ermine]

I need a braindead solution

[tender pasture]

popped down to malice earlier to play with a friend, and this absolute drongo died once before finding a grimoire and still picked it up

[glacial ermine]

Doesnt stagger them

[gleaming turtle]

Yes it does, lmao

[tender pasture]

power sword with sunder and power cycler

[nimble sentinel]

dclaw

[young sequoia]

the kinda ppl that get downed and say "don't let me die bro, i have a grim"

[south garnet]

Fuck this drives me crazy

[tender pasture]

parry's counterattack has stupid multipliers so you definitely want to be hitting heads

[glacial ermine]

Dont have sunder on mine so maybe thats the issue

[tender pasture]

look we didn't find out because I let him die to drop the grim

[south garnet]

Like I get if you were too dim to swap out a contract and it's 2 hours before refresh or something, but grims just because if you're already playing like shit? Come on

[languid escarp]

claw sword I think

[glacial ermine]

Whats the best combo for them, push attack? Power attack?

[tender pasture]

couldn't have saved him either, he got got by a poxburster on the other side of the map from me

zealot runs fast but not that fast

[languid escarp]

parry and dodge while stamina recovers

[vague hull]

power cycler is nuts holy shit

[tender pasture]

and then a horde spawned between us

[vague hull]

i only got it at level 3 but it makes such a diff

[tender pasture]

between him and my friend struggling in Malice, well, no decision really

[vivid ocean]

cycler 4 is so strong i unironically think it should be made basekit

and just lock powerswords to one bless

[south garnet]

Whenever I hear a burster now during a horde coming from another direction I just make space between myself and the team

[nimble sentinel]

It used to be baseline

[south garnet]

Don't trust anyone to handle their shit

[tender pasture]

it was fuckin busted baseline

[glacial ermine]

PC4 is nuts

[tender pasture]

also because fatshark, under some conditions it'd get stuck in powered mode

[glacial ermine]

Power sword and knife dabes

[vague hull]

this does 2k+ dps on a crusher lmao wth

[young sequoia]

zealot loner AND a grimoire peeping heretic? smh

[tender pasture]

I have a simple rule of thumb, if there's more than 3 wounds showing on any health bar I give plenty of space to bursters

[young sequoia]

fr. the amount of times i go to push a burster and somebody shoots it when im close

[tender pasture]

happens surprisingly often even when you think people should know better

[glacial ermine]

Lately ive been getting hit by bursters attack grounding right in front of me as im running up to push it

Like they dive too early

[tender pasture]

didn't know they played football kek

haven't noticed that but will keep an eye out

[glacial ermine]

Guess they gotta make up for all bursters that dies of a broken heart on spawn

[tender pasture]

I sometimes play with 250+ ping

[glacial ermine]

Could def be a ping issue

[young sequoia]

ive had this happen a couple times too, might be cuz I'm playing on wifi

[glacial ermine]

It reminds me of the GOOD OL DAYS on launch when pushing a burster would still result in it blowing up in your face mostbof the time

Good times

[tender pasture]

some of the weapons had broken pushes too

tac axes IIRC

[glacial ermine]

Broken how?

[tender pasture]

didn't stagger enough or something, been a while

[paper anchor]

[tender pasture]

Exhilarating Takedown fix incoming

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/hotfix

[delicate moat]

my last game the vet had 3 wound curios

[tender pasture]

martyrdom vet

[glacial ermine]

YES

[delicate moat]

i thought he was marty zealot

but bro had vet icon

[glacial ermine]

About fucking time

Watch them break confirmed kill with this one

[tender pasture]

mans helping friends grind for them penances

[paper anchor]

Weapon specialist Recon MkVId.
Has been fun.

[glacial ermine]

Whats a good setup for laspistol

I wanna run like a crackhead without knife

[wanton dawn]

Man it was way harder this patch compared to last time I tried

[tender pasture]

weapon specialist everything is crazy

you get 3 melee kills and you max out your crit chance for 5 seconds on your ranged weapons

[glacial ermine]

Yeah that’s what im talking about, they recover so fast from being staggered

[wanton dawn]

Except I don't use weapon specialist

[delicate moat]

for the first bullet/salvo

[tender pasture]

don't release LMB

[wanton dawn]

This is harder condition than ingame

[delicate moat]

[wanton dawn]

No switch allowed

[tender pasture]

was replying to solacelxix's comment on recon heh

[neon stone]

I apologize in advance for my PROMT-English, but I will share my sadness that there is still no helgan and a skin for the stormtrooper armor in the game.

[glacial ermine]

I mean ive seen rager hordes almost as big as that in game

I hate ragers

[delicate moat]

this pack is like discounted

[wanton dawn]

It is easier in game for several reason: coherency bonus, grenade, switch to melee and psy has no latency so it is harder to dodge some stuff

[tender pasture]

I love them, haven't felt the oh shit moment in games for a while

[wanton dawn]

Also my sword has no flak bonus

[delicate moat]

ragers don't get me, the bomber and flamers fk me up all the time

[tender pasture]

but I rolled a zealot bonk stick and I made a build that maxes all the impact blessings

[sharp ember]

oh thank the throne, i can actually start using it now

[glacial ermine]

Would be nice if they had consistent fucking audio cues

[tender pasture]

and now I look forward to spanking rager packs

[wanton dawn]

Last patch I made a video of 20 ragers bonking

[glacial ermine]

But they dont

[wanton dawn]

Since then we lost a bunch of good stuff and rager got better

[tender pasture]

toughness my arse, at this rate the best thing they could arm the ragers with is hot frying pans

[delicate moat]

i got pancaked today by a crusher overhead turning 270 meant for someone else

[tender pasture]

instantly pop toughness

[delicate moat]

someone dodged into me

[glacial ermine]

How hard it must be to fix silent ragers/crushers

[wanton dawn]

Somehow I feel like it is easier to handle crusher rather than rager ambush this patch

[glacial ermine]

Yes

[delicate moat]

crusher at least it's usually not like 20 per pack

[glacial ermine]

Crushers are free kills even in packs imo

[delicate moat]

ragers have insane reach and speed

[tender pasture]

also crusher attacks are less overbearing

[delicate moat]

their melee reach animation is so much shorter than their actual reach

[tender pasture]

rager attack feels like it's half a flame template

they don't feel as fair as plague monks

[glacial ermine]

I rarely die to crushers unless theyre silent

Yea

Also plague monks you could actually hear

And they had a pause

[delicate moat]

i hope bombers have a bit more inaccuracy

they're too good at teaming up tossing 3 nades at a time

covering entire floor in lava

[dusty violet]

whyyyy hadron whyyy

it was so good modifiers

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-cry-sad-huhu-screaming-gif-17060846

[wanton dawn]

In any case, it is good to know what your melee weapon is capable of handling in a pinch

Not sure if a lot of weapon can handle 10 ragers though

[dusty violet]

i like the mk iv claw

good tool

[delicate moat]

alt+f4 can

[glacial ermine]

Shovel maybe. Shovel power attack slaps them around real silly

[wanton dawn]

That's like infiltrate with extra step

[tender pasture]

what did you have on your psword?

[wanton dawn]

It is locked maniac unyielding. PC4/sunder blessings

[dusty violet]

what perks are best for power sword

[fleet garden]

my roll

[tender pasture]

oyy, sunder copped a stealth nerf then?

[dusty violet]

whats this part did hadron add this to the roll

[civic terrace]

wtf is that snipping

[wanton dawn]

No ? why ?

[dusty violet]

hadrons white padding roll

[tender pasture]

ah, was wondering because you mentioned it being harder to take on ragers this patch

[fleet garden]

its my paint snipping

[tender pasture]

versus the last psyk gauntlet of them

[wanton dawn]

We lost a lot of passive strength this patch: we no longer have perma stun immunity, attack speed slower, ult node got nerfed

[civic terrace]

this is my revolver

[wanton dawn]

Losing stun immunity is the real kicker though

[tender pasture]

ah yeah the accidental TWBS on nades

[fleet garden]

I dont know what is bis on the columnus but raking and sustained works fine imo

[dusty violet]

yea those the exact blessings im looking for

[tender pasture]

when you sniff too much explosive fumes while modding your nades and lose nociception

[dusty violet]

instead i got this

[civic terrace]

rip

[sturdy crow]

Just saw a build posted on facebook and it ended like this and now I want to go to bed

[dusty violet]

look at the modifiers too

almost perfect

[wanton dawn]

In any case, handling flak rager is way harder than maniac rager cuz those mf have more mass

[fleet garden]

gotta grind out that power cycler 4 now

[dusty violet]

is tihs any good or should i stick to the mk iv devils claw

[civic terrace]

shovel is a great weapon

[sharp ember]

that's pretty killy, not fully optimized but it'll shred trash and whack armored targets, worth a spin

[wanton dawn]

One thing for sure: plogryn is way harder to deal with in psy than in game

[glacial ermine]

Pcycler 4 is preferred but you can def hurt people with it

[dusty violet]

would you use it over a devils claw

[fleet garden]

get mk6

its the shit now

[sharp ember]

I would take claw if i knew I had some other anti armor weapon

[wanton dawn]

dodge window seems really unforgiving when there is no latency

[dusty violet]

i use revolver

[glacial ermine]

Plasma

THE problem solver

[wanton dawn]

the problem dissolver

[glacial ermine]

Truuu

[sharp ember]

i'd alternate for fun then

[civic terrace]

body shotting flamers is fun

[sturdy crow]

Is weapon specialization with chainsword/plasma any good?

Plasma is quite fast at swapping so should work out fine to keep the buff rolling in melee I think

[sour elbow]

what's the best traits for a shovel? stagger and rend right?

[civic terrace]

i use the marking things keystone with it

[sturdy crow]

Yeah I do that too but thinking about weapon spec for fun, thinking that the ammo fillup and crit can work out pretty neatly on plasma

[sour elbow]

sorry, blessings. Forget the names still

[civic terrace]

its not bad i had fun doing that

[dusty violet]

my preferred traits for my shovel is red hair and green eyes

[lean light]

The true problem solver is 2 krak grenades to the chest

[dusty violet]

ohh blessings

[civic terrace]

shovel might not do that most damage but its close and its super safe

[bold bridge]

I love the shovel. Mine isn't even optimal yet and I still have so much fun with it.

[wanton dawn]

From my testing the focus tag is more consistent. Reload is a nice QoL but plasma got such a huge mag that you can go usually space out your reload during calm time

Also middle tree has better access to damage for plasma specifically

Right tree is more melee focus

[sturdy crow]

Yeah I figured, that's also the reason I don't go with the +reload speed talents on plasma

[bold bridge]

Yeah. Right tree treats plasma as more a sidearm than a main weapon imo.

[civic terrace]

to hit the flamer body shot breakpoint i need middle tree on plasma

[sturdy crow]

It's more melee focused yeah, but that can be fun too!

[forest maple]

Was there an update today or something?

[bold bridge]

It's very fun with right tree. My build rn is plas/shovel and mostly right tree with shout and ammo.

[civic terrace]

shout is the best

[wanton dawn]

The kicker for me was that middle tree is better at handling boss and ogryns

[sturdy crow]

I get sad thinking about the shovel. It has such an excellent moveset and is really fun to use, but I just can't drop the chainsword due to the insane damage to big boys.

[forest maple]

Don't see anything on the news channel?

[civic terrace]

32% damage + 20% is nuts for bosses

[tall torrent]

All or Nothing is also good

They did??

[civic terrace]

from what i hear exhilerating takedown is still bugged have not tested it tho

[wanton dawn]

Well, am gonna test it right now

[sturdy crow]

Time to roll crit surge

[languid escarp]

340 plasteel and a purple drop for hi intensity damnation... I don't think the Emperor is paying market value for what I do

[sturdy crow]

I'm a simple man, all I want is to see heretics blow into a million gory pieces when I shoot lightning at them

[vast token]

Quick question for the players more experienced in the late game, how do i grind better weapons? Just buy a grey one from the armoury, hope for a high rating then upgrade it hope that RNG emperor is with me?

[normal valve]

• Fixed an issue where the Veteran "Exhilarating Takedown" talent was increasing the toughness damage taken instead of decreasing it.

finally

[sturdy crow]

Don't just go for high rating, check the values on your stats, but yeah that's pretty much it

[languid escarp]

lmao

[vast token]

Went without saying, but ofc that aswell 😄 Well, time to grind then lol, ty

[sturdy crow]

God damn, they removed the optional hardmode :<

[wanton dawn]

Does not look fixed to me EDIT: The shark had me on their update schedule, forget this video

[slow spade]

There was an infinite damage stack bug for ping keystone...

[untold mulch]

Takedown finally fixed dammit

[slow spade]

And I didn't abuse it

[quaint valve]

BOYS

Fixed an issue where the Veteran "Exhilarating Takedown" talent was increasing the toughness damage taken instead of decreasing it.

its been done!!!

[slow spade]

Look at the video above

It doesn't appear fixed

[quaint valve]

uh oh

my hopes

[untold mulch]

AINT NO FUCKING WAY

[sturdy crow]

Wouldn't the swing the mob does affect the damage though?

[woeful junco]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-2-12/87530

takendown finally fixed

[slow spade]

But maybe MrCraime didn't update yet?

Pain

[woeful junco]

oh

LOL

yeah did you update your game?

[wanton dawn]

Am trying more configuration

[sturdy crow]

It's not doing the same attack

[quaint valve]

Up to darktide discord for the true answers

[wanton dawn]

Ah yes, the update just went through

[slow spade]

I love how nothing gets documented for Vets

[wanton dawn]

FORGET THIS VIDEO AM DOING IT AGAIN

[untold mulch]

Oh

[slow spade]

I unironically just search keywords in Vet search

[woeful junco]

banned for spreading misinformation

BANNED

[untold mulch]

MRCRAIME YOU ARE JUDGED

[wanton dawn]

Well AM sorry, the video was made 3 minutes ago

[slow spade]

No problem, it happens

Btw

[wanton dawn]

And the patch was posted when ?

They should just check their update pattern

[slow spade]

Indeed

[slow spade]

I guess that's why there was no news release

[quaint valve]

that means there is still hope!

[slow spade]

Sharpshooter viable when?

[sturdy crow]

Do you want to become a servitor? Because this is how you become a servitor.

[slow spade]

I want a battle servitor

Plasma cannon servitor when?

[untold mulch]

Never

[thick kestrel]

honestly something Admech aligned would be cool...

[slow spade]

Shadow nerf where all precision weapons increase damage taken by 30% UwU

[slow spade]

Dunestrider pls

[opal dove]

So...

[slow spade]

I want a neutron cannon

[opal dove]

I was recieving more damage to my thoughness because of a bug?

[slow spade]

Yes

[civic terrace]

yes

[wanton dawn]

Here we go

[quaint valve]

yes for a long time

[slow spade]

It should be fixed now?

[sharp ember]

you have been trained to become stronger

[wanton dawn]

Also F U

[slow spade]

Nice job and thank you for the video c:

[opal dove]

Man... My brain was melted thinking about why I was getting detroyed everytime.

[slow spade]

I attribute ALL my damage taken to Exhilarating Takedown

Literally nothing else was my fault

[civic terrace]

what about fire

[slow spade]

Nothing

[forest maple]

Every time i got downed, its because of exhilerating takedown... (even though i'm not running it)

[tall torrent]

Seems like now exhilarating takedown is actually kind of a viable pick over confirmed kill for sharpshooter playstyles

[untold mulch]

Finally

[quaint valve]

YAY it is done

[slow spade]

Born Leader value take both UwU

[old prism]

Wait, a fatshark talent doesn't work as advertised? What?????

[quaint valve]

was broken for a long time

[slow spade]

"It works but in the worst way possible"

[untold mulch]

it took them what? month? to add a -

[old prism]

They would never do something like that.

[untold mulch]

Fatshark not playtesting a talent?

Impossible

[opal dove]

That's quite mindblowing... Up to 30% increasing damage to our thoughness once you kill an elite (weak spot, 8 seconds acumulation). And I was wondering why I keep getting crushed and crushed...

This change everything

[slow spade]

And the best part is it lasts like 8 sec

[civic terrace]

i still rember on vermintide 2 release handmaiden used to have a talent that gave +15% power -5% attack speed but it never gave any power so it was just -5% attack speed

[slow spade]

Which us reasonably long

[wanton dawn]

Exil takedown before hotfix: #veteran-class message After hotfix: #veteran-class message

[celest vine]

So it is fixed

[untold mulch]

I swear what playtesting they do?

[celest vine]

Good

[untold mulch]

Like, all this bugs are htings that are tested in 2 minutes

HOW

[slow spade]

Confirmed Kill + Exhil Takedown + Born Leader UwU

[tall torrent]

How much toughness does a normal melee kill give? 2.5% total?

[old prism]

I'm pretty sure the playtesting is just rats spinning in wheels powering up a machine that randomly presses buttons in game

[celest vine]

Ill hold exhil takedown

[slow spade]

5%

[celest vine]

Its better than confirmed kill

[pearl sapphire]

So exhilarating takedown is fixed now?

[slow spade]

I wonder if I can fit both

[celest vine]

I can only do one

[untold mulch]

Yes

[slow spade]

I mostly want the damage resist

[celest vine]

And I prefer reload speed

[pearl sapphire]

Thank god

[old prism]

hard to best confirmed kill still. Residual toughness is OP

[slow spade]

I'm going to try and force it 💪

[opal dove]

So all this time... We were hitting the floor, wondering how in the hell was that happening, doubting about our skills playing... Oh man. It means that maybe and good after all? 😂

[tall torrent]

Does the “gain 3.5% extra toughness from kills” seem worth it?

[old prism]

Wait, did they patch it right now LMAO

[celest vine]

I go left tree at the top for ranged damage and reload speed

[untold mulch]

Yes

[celest vine]

It’s really nice

But IG i can sacrifice reload speed

[sharp ember]

rejoice

[wanton dawn]

#veteran-class message

[slow spade]

Yes because toughness regen from coherency turns off in melee

[sharp ember]

i'm thinking it's mg1a time

[opal dove]

Last week I spent a entire afternoon doing friggin maths... It was just impossible for me to understand what was happening to my thoughness. Oh well.

[slow spade]

It helps a ton with reducing chip damage

[tall torrent]

Nice, might try to spare points into that

[midnight patrol]

Oh thank god.

[tall torrent]

Needs 2 tho hmmm

[slow spade]

I use plasma + Columbus so I'm not too affected by reloading

[midnight patrol]

They finally fixed Exhilerating

[slow spade]

Its not like deal breaking but its good if you can

[celest vine]

Infantry lasguns never had long reloads to begin with

[sharp ember]

what bugs remain? weapon specialist crits after 1st bullet?

[slow spade]

Ah I do agree that dead time from reloading is spooky even if its only like 1 sec

[celest vine]

But it was nice having no delay after killing 4 gunner hoards

[slow spade]

But I usually just push spam to make room to reload

[celest vine]

And them the rager hoard spawned

[slow spade]

Ah yeah those are "fun"

[celest vine]

Im okay with shitloads of gunners

[slow spade]

I've been getting better at using light attacks to stagger ragers

[celest vine]

Cause I am w shooting vet primarily

[slow spade]

But I wouldn't trust it lol

[celest vine]

Ragers are a fuck you tho

Ill throw all my grenades to end them

[serene sage]

probably just how much they should buff the revolver and not much else.
all playtesters play melee/revolver quickswap :>

[slow spade]

At least with takedown, the toughness reduct means you take less chip damage UwU

[untold mulch]

Ngl, I would believe you ngl

[fleet garden]

noty, buff weapons that are actually under used

[untold mulch]

Revolver is so karking silly

[celest vine]

My new MG12 can one hit headshot ragers anyway

[fleet garden]

I see every second vet and every zealot run with revolver

[celest vine]

[wanton dawn]

With exil takedown buffed, marksman vet should have a ton of passive thoughness dmg reduction now

[slow spade]

I still find it funny fatshark buffs the strongest builds then nerfed all the others

[untold mulch]

It really needed it

[slow spade]

Marksman should be able to compete with Shout builds now hopefully

[celest vine]

They want the Guardsmen class to he a guardsmen

[wanton dawn]

Eh, bit of a strech imo

[celest vine]

Shout marksman is betteer

[fleet garden]

well then ogryns need to be even more stupid then I guess?

[celest vine]

Shout with marksman perks

[serene sage]

I mean it was a lil sarcastic
but given how many playtesters are very experienced players, likely from VT2, too, so it would make sense they skew melee a lot more and hence using melee/revolver builds a lot more often.

[fleet garden]

if we are going lore accurate

[slow spade]

I'm coping pls don't interrupt UwU

[wanton dawn]

Just make fun of me for posting misinformation

Ez

[celest vine]

The class is called veteran sharpshooter so I can understand why they want to make the sharpshooter aspect better

[untold mulch]

I wouldn't be surprised

[fleet garden]

like buff the MG IV or MG Ia, no point using them over MG12

[slow spade]

:p to be fair, its not like you have the version history shown to you

[sturdy crow]

Actually it's only called Veteran since patch 14

[celest vine]

Less recoil over tome

[sharp ember]

i thought the sharpshooter part was taken off

[slow spade]

240 -> 2400 damage

Ez fix

[sturdy crow]

They removed the subclass names when they added the trees

[celest vine]

And you can hit rager breakpoints easier

Thats it

[noble onyx]

Give it 1000% rending, that should fix it

[fleet garden]

^

[serene sage]

tbf Psyker Psykenetic is a Moon Moon kinda name lmao

[untold mulch]

I ahve no clue how tf they are gonna do new additions

Some have said new lines on the sides, but that looks awkward as fuck

[wanton dawn]

I was just thinking that since hotfix had been posted and my steam was opened, update would have gone through. 🤷

[noble onyx]

Damnit Moon Moon

[fleet garden]

im running a columnus 5 and its no contest

[sturdy crow]

They could just add more levels and deepen the trees even further, or just keep the vet tree as is 😛

[sharp ember]

making way for entirely new reject classes

[opal dove]

It is a beast

[sturdy crow]

In VT2 they added more levels and an extra column of talents iirc

[noble onyx]

Fuck it, we ball
Give Veteran 120 total nodes
Make it impossible to reach the bottom

[celest vine]

I like lasers

[sharp ember]

like the conscript, who is veteran but worse but respawns next to the team shortly after death

[celest vine]

Ill stick to lasguns

[opal dove]

You have more level... You just don't see it xD. There's a mod where you can see your actual level

[fleet garden]

mg12 is good but you deal with hordes of gunners way worse than with autoguns

[sturdy crow]

I know, but that's just flavor levels, not functional levels

[noble onyx]

And how many of those beyond level 30 affect you, hm?

[strange grove]

Oh Columnus IAG, where have you been my whole life?

[opal dove]

It would be cool to get more, yep.

[celest vine]

Thats what the powrr sword is for

[noble onyx]

The power sword is for dealing with hordes of gunners...???

[fleet garden]

ye especially when you get beamed from half the map

[serene sage]

has quickplay quality decreased for yall over the weekend?

[celest vine]

You shoot them with your gun

One hit headshots on 12

[opal dove]

To my moral and my sense of spending too much time with this game? A lot?

[untold mulch]

Too much voice work

Only thing I can see, is making it that they reuse lines a lot

[celest vine]

Very consistently

[sturdy crow]

It has gotten a whole lot harder since the latest patch, but that's probably because they buffed the director

[noble onyx]

You just said the power sword is for dealing with gunners

[untold mulch]

MY MAN 🤝

[fleet garden]

id say its plasma, columnus mk5, revolver > rest atm

[celest vine]

Its for walker hoards

[serene sage]

I mean in term of teammates specifically

[celest vine]

The MG12 is for gunners

[noble onyx]

Bro

[celest vine]

And stalkers/shooters

[noble onyx]

Read that again

[serene sage]

like my teammates are nearly all fresh 30s

[opal dove]

I'm in a love/hate relationship with my accatran

[delicate estuary]

they finally fixed exhilarating takedown

[celest vine]

Power sword poxwalker hoards

[delicate estuary]

I can finally

stop bitching

[sturdy crow]

Hmm... Yeah maybe? I see a lot more level 25ish in regular damnation now, but that can be solved by just running auric

[celest vine]

If a gunner is there one swing will cut his head off

[sturdy crow]

But running auric is also a lot harder because of the previously mentioned director buff

[noble onyx]

He said "Hordes of Gunners"

[sturdy crow]

So you can choose difficult because of director or difficult because of bad team mates

[serene sage]

yeah I think we are getting to the point where the casuals are finally reaching 30s in XBox and thinking they can do Auric Maelstrom

oh the humanity. I consistently 2.5x my teammate damage and lose half my games

it's wild

maybe i need an ultra clutch build and succumb to melee/revolver stuff

sad that I hate the revolver

[celest vine]

Point still stands

[noble onyx]

I joined an Auric Maelstrom today, two of them were struggling hard against a Chaos Spawn while another one was already dead
Thankfully when they messed up and got themselves killed, they left and made space for two good players
And after that we had little issue winning the mission

[celest vine]

Gunman in front of you? Sword, far away? Shoot

[candid bridge]

Plasma + power sword shout support build has been my go to.

[serene sage]

nah nah I run Maelstrom/Auric T5 exclusively, i just noticed a lot of fresh faces who are clueless this weekend
so i get to have both????????? lmao

[near sable]

sword far away?

[noble onyx]

It doesn't really. He said that the MG12 is a bit slower at dealing with 10 Gunners all spread out than an Autogun.

You just added that horde and melee part and derailed his point

[sterile phoenix]

Took em a few patches but they finally fixed Exhilerating

[near sable]

counterpoint: use the mg4

[celest vine]

I can one hit gunners in the head, it will clear maybe slightly slower

[noble onyx]

I neither agree nor disagree with it but saltx was making an entirely different point

[celest vine]

Im good with the gun so im going to use it

[quaint valve]

i use it with full auto mod, feels great

[sharp ember]

corsnake are you omitting the first n from cornsnake on purpose

[celest vine]

I mean at the end of the day thats what you should do anyway

[delicate moat]

i think i can agree with you on this

[opal dove]

Columnus, shovel. Change my mind. (Don't do it. I'm weak and I will change my load out 🥲 )

[delicate estuary]

mk12 just requires a lot of headtaps to make useful with a lot of gunners

[delicate moat]

the teammates are extra challenging recently

[delicate estuary]

I dont personally have any issues with it but mg1a might feel more consistent for people

[near sable]

mg4 is top and ill die on that fortress world

[celest vine]

No doubt but I dont have maniac damage on mine

Do ill use my MG12 till I do

[serene sage]

okay just so at least im not having that severe of a confirmation bias case.
it turns me off from the game ngl

[celest vine]

Then swap to the 1A I have

[sharp ember]

mg4 and mg12 are great but neither of then IZ GREEN ENUFF

[delicate estuary]

1A is definitely just as viable as the mk12

[delicate moat]

im struggling in AM pubbing rn, the teammates are dying left right and center

[celest vine]

Theyre equal

[near sable]

4 is definitely as viable as the 1a or 12

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/slugga-boy-warhammer40k-kill-team-ork-wh40k-gif-26410404

[fast scaffold]

As time goes on more xboxers get access to aurics

[near sable]

[celest vine]

The lack of unyielding damage does hurt tho

[sharp ember]

GREEN LASGUN IZ BEST

[celest vine]

Why I like the 12

[delicate estuary]

@celest vine I wouldnt say they are equal. MK12 rewards accuracy which is not always possible whereas 1A you can magdump if you really need to

[noble onyx]

Now we just need a few more buffs to recon lasguns and then all lasguns are perfectly viable

[delicate moat]

i often have the "what more can i do" problem when there's 5 monstrosities on my ass with 5 poxbursters 3 dogs and 20 ragers and 3 people are down

[delicate estuary]

its called exit mission

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/you-missed-how-could-you-miss-mushy-mushi-mushu-gif-14717634

[serene sage]

yeah, like i hate gatekeeping, but it is sad that you do 300k damage while your teammates do 75k-100k in half your games, all 3 of them.

[untold mulch]

Me with that Krieg

[celest vine]

Equal in the sense they’re both effective

But in different ways

I compensate for the lack of Ogryn and Boss damage on the 1A with chainsword

[untold mulch]

Carry hours

[delicate moat]

i dont care about dmg, but like when teammate get netted/dogged I rush to save them

[serene sage]

the problem is they run forward and aggro 5 packs of shit before going down.

[fleet drift]

what Blessing should I get?

[celest vine]

Horde clearing on the MG12 with powersword

[sharp ember]

#📢news-bulletin it's up

[delicate moat]

when I get dogged/netted they pretend i dont exist

[quaint valve]

handcannon and one of the crit chance ones

[serene sage]

that's my mentality but if you want to go full clutch all the time, there are a limited number of builds you can do and i hate them

[delicate moat]

[untold mulch]

I am glad I am finding fun Infiltrate, so I can clutch constantly

[serene sage]

it's just invis/stealth cheese

[delicate estuary]

just nade out and back off is a good rule of thumb

[serene sage]

just was about to say lol

[celest vine]

You guessed my strat

Good guess mate

[chilly jewel]

Fixed an issue where the Veteran “Exhilarating Takedown” talent was increasing the toughness damage taken instead of decreasing it.

say it aint so

[delicate estuary]

yes

[chilly jewel]

they did it

[delicate estuary]

YES

[noble onyx]

One thing I still think is weird that infantry autoguns reward headshots much more than headhunter autoguns do
Since the IAG buff it isn't as bad any more, but you'd think that infantry weapons would be less headshot-heavy than guns literally called "headhunters"

[delicate estuary]

I can finally run left side tree

[delicate estuary]

well I Was running it before

[woeful junco]

let's gooooooo

[serene sage]

the technology is finally here

[fleet drift]

Is Speed reload good?

[celest vine]

First thing I saw

[serene sage]

they switch a + to a -

or the other way around

[chilly jewel]

only took 2 months

[serene sage]

regardless

[gusty sonnet]

What if you saw a well rolled weapon in the shop at 15:55,
but Fatshark said :

[delicate estuary]

I dont disagree but I prefer my fun. WR is decent enough to not care when pubs fuck up

[celest vine]

MG12 for specialists, elites and shooters (I like one shoting traitor guard)

[untold mulch]

Three fishes in a trechcoat in the office

[celest vine]

Krak for crushers

Power sword for hoards

And ragers when they get close

[quaint valve]

its ok, depends on if you are just mag dumping your shots or using it to pick off headshots

[celest vine]

Cause my MG12 can one hit headshot ragers

When they arent at point blank

[quaint valve]

@fleet drift you can also pick up some talents to help with reload if thats really what you want

[delicate moat]

Fixed an issue where the progress for collecting Scriptures and Grimoires for

no no, why would you ever fix this

[mystic escarp]

We are so back

[acoustic wyvern]

Its finally fixed boiis

[wanton dawn]

Am still not taking it though

[celest vine]

I dont think anyone noticed

[delicate moat]

are we sure they actually fixed it?

[woeful junco]

yes

craim tested it

[delicate estuary]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a91079c-fa12-4388-9f28-522cb5e59cf9/sharpshooter-vet

[wanton dawn]

[delicate moat]

right, but did they break anything else?

[delicate estuary]

I can finally run krak nades

[worthy pelican]

Why do people pick up grimoires

[delicate estuary]

🥹

[acoustic wyvern]

to do secondary missions

[slow spade]

Ping keystone no longer has infinite damage stacking

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-ifitworks-forthebetter-right-anakin-gif-24444626

[slow spade]

Clearly that was intended UwU

[celest vine]

If i find them I pick them up then destroy them

[mystic escarp]

No Tactical Awareness

[delicate estuary]

find me the points

[slow spade]

Grimoires look cool

Hence touch them c:

[serene sage]

not needed if you run Exec Stance

[delicate estuary]

also you dont need tactical awareness

with the amount of trash shooters the game spawns

you can keep exe stance up for 30 seconds straight at a time

[slow spade]

Tactical Awareness is nice if you afford it

[mystic escarp]

My bad, just realized you've got Counter Fire

[slow spade]

My "sharpshooter" build is just ping keystone so I got it on the way down

[delicate estuary]

I would like to use the 15 stacks node for the keystone but you dont get that kind of space in pubs

so just using camo node instead so its more consistent

[delicate moat]

imma take exhausting takedown for a spin on my vrak tree

[quaint valve]

Thoughts on this build? Using revolver and dclaw. Wish i could take survivalist but im strapped for points, like we all are till they make adjustments.

[worthy pelican]

think you can skip going elft at the start

[delicate moat]

yeah give up exhausting takedown

[delicate estuary]

let me know how it feels cause I wont have much time to test it out today

[clear tendon]

personal preference but I'd get rid of the top left stuff and maybe snag serrated edge or smth?

[delicate moat]

you might want to spend points on deadshot

although nvm it's a specialist tree

[quaint valve]

doesnt specialist give auto crits anywayy?

[quaint valve]

think ill give this a couple runs

[clear tendon]

looks like a fun build

gimme a sec to share my monstrosity

[quaint valve]

Its pretty fun to play, focused mostly on melee and parries with dclaw while whipping out the revolver for quick snipes

[gaunt hinge]

Fixed an issue where the Veteran “Exhilarating Takedown” talent was increasing the toughness damage taken instead of decreasing it. its time to party

[torn gorge]

you really do not want to skip the thoughness on weapon swap talent at the end tbh

[clear tendon]

quickdraw revolver is so much fun tbh, its why i use a revolver almost exclusively

[opal dove]

It's wild that this was doing the opposite

[clear tendon]

this is my unholy mess

[celest vine]

SMOKE

[clear tendon]

yes.

[celest vine]

[slow spade]

Smh using the revive shout instead of letting allies die to get the revive penanace

Sorry I need my laurels 💅💅

[clear tendon]

i'm pretty sure i have that penance already from back when i played ogryn lmao

[fleet garden]

vet doesnt feels as squishy now, feels good

[clear tendon]

unless theres one im not aware of

[slow spade]

There's one for reviving downed teammates and one for rescuing killed teammates

[slow spade]

Iron Will + Takedown + Coherency talent

Simply do not take damage UwU

[celest vine]

I think this will be good

[delicate estuary]

ah yes the I change timezone every time I fire

[clear tendon]

ah, here's my progress on this so far

pretty decent

[slow spade]

Not good enough

[celest vine]

But whatever it hits will die

[clear tendon]

i should let more people die, yes

[slow spade]

Take off the revive talent

[delicate estuary]

yea just need to Q swap I forgot

[slow spade]

Penance > lives

[clear tendon]

in fact, just shoot your teammates in the back of the head so you can revive them later

its the true grindset

[delicate estuary]

I just barrel them

works better

[clear tendon]

so true bestie

[celest vine]

There was this one ogryn that charged in, focused revive like a bot

Tossed an ogryn bomb

[crude wind]

so I'm pretty sure that the 1a is a contender for best gun in the game atm

[celest vine]

Then DCed

[crude wind]

the damage and ammo efficiency, lack of recoil etc

[celest vine]

[crude wind]

is insane

[celest vine]

Like fuck bro I wished I clipped tbat

[celest vine]

Its up there definitely

[clear tendon]

bone'ead chip malfunctioned, big guy got confused and went back home

[celest vine]

If you want a versatile gun

[crude wind]

easily top 3

[delicate estuary]

I have been non stop killing daemonhosts after I was introduced to the bully club slap stagger mechanic

shit is too hilarious

[celest vine]

I had one slap a plauge ogryn to death

T bagged him

Then get sniped

💀

[bright coyote]

i met my first toxic ogryn yesterday

[slow spade]

MG la bad, recon good

[delicate estuary]

lmfao

[slow spade]

I see plague ogryns all the time though

[clear tendon]

i wish i clipped the time i got a kill on a pogryn with a heavy shovel attack, cause there was just this thunk as the chunky lad went flying to the right

[celest vine]

Ogryn shenanigans are hilarious

[tall torrent]

Lots of good guns rn, I don’t think there’s a specific contender for “best, period”

[bright coyote]

u have a point

[tall torrent]

Which is where it should be at

[celest vine]

All the guns are in a good spot right now

Except maybe bolter

Its kick is kinda fucked

[bright coyote]

lmao true

[clear tendon]

bolter hasnt ever really felt good to use imo, but granted i like being speedy so

[bright coyote]

was with a bolter vet, all i could hear was "Im out of ammo!"

[delicate estuary]

nah bolter is fine

[celest vine]

But thats what happens when you give a 50 BMG autofire and no stock

[delicate estuary]

just run bolter with exe stance and you can just press exe stance in a pinch