the people that are doing feedback for balancing in this game, its a very tiny tiny tiny percentage of the community. and they control all the feedback thats listened to so your vet lives are in their hands
#veteran-class
manic badger
finite imp
meanwhile it feels like my bullets dont do shit
stray storm
Honestly out of the weapon stats does stability or stopping matter that much?
ionic hull
apperntly im just a massive shitter at Vet then lmao im always getting my ass beat
finite imp
no Azreal is right look at how my last knife match went as a melee vet
look at this bs
insane across the board
marsh condor
They should buff the Mk III Helbore's bayonet.
manic badger
the toughness regen nodes getting moved to the top that was influenced by playtesters
placid portal
They should buff the Mk III Helbore's bayonet.
maybe make the the damn attack animation not janky
marsh condor
Yeah, that.
placid portal
Or even have it do a stock strike then follow up with a bayonet smash
Like how any Basic Bayonet training teaches you
marsh condor
Here's hoping
marsh condor
The Revolver...eh, it's fine for bonking and staggering that one guy who looked at you funny.
placid portal
Mk3 either needs its melee to be a bash strikedown loop or just be stabbing
patent slate
bolter
dusk idol
you won't have any damage
placid portal
you should try surgical crit boltgun
Really good stuff since crits is basically weakpoint it
atomic zephyr
holy shit instant buy
patent slate
hmm
well hadron gave me glory hunter and shattering impact for bolter
ig ill use that to grind for surgical
ionic hull
i agree to an extent you have alot more practice and knowledge about DT then myself but imo if a Zealot was in the same position (abusing corners) they'd be able to do the same with a THammer or Heavy Sword
again im just a shitter so
i cant do that
timid otter
I dont know how the current breakpoints are for the bolter rn
ionic hull
Ironhelm is but its a massive meme from what i recall
quasi dragon
what's the general consensus regarding the hellbore, i tried it againt for the first time in a while and i'm not crazy about it, also i feel like sometimes shots just go missing? like it does the animation but no lasbeam comes out
ionic hull
i cant really contest your points here given the aformentioned being a shitter if i was in the position i wouldve died even with the same build lmao
spark sandal
holy shit instant buy
Adjustments to make to it?
ionic hull
oh agreed
fervent ice
Which of the recon lasguns is good, again?
patent slate
thats what im saying
patent slate
next we gonna have ogryn psyker
umbral scaffold
kickback was always good for knocking stuff down temporarily, now it actually can kill stuff
timid otter
Lawbringer is likely underpowered
Angripna has a niche
They dont stack together that neatly normally
quasi dragon
is hellbore in a good place? i can't get it to grow on me
the iron sights are kind of atrocious and yeah the charging is annoying
timid otter
Manstopper though is a hell of a blessing
I just find examples like those however to therotical, hard to execute ingame
Yes i tried it abit
quasi dragon
has anyone noticed that shots just dont happen for it sometimes on hellbore if you try shooting repeatedly instead of charging
timid otter
Ammo mostly
timid otter
Kant has special with cleave
placid portal
Agripinaa Shotty is probs the best with single target slug
timid otter
Revolver is an over-tuned weapon in general
timid otter
Likely actually is the most popular weapon in the current patch
Ciag V im not at all confused by. Psyker happens to benefit crit alot, ciag V loves crits.
vague elm
How important is cleave?
whole moon
One of my friends I play with considers gunpsykers heretical, spends all match shooting the pubs we play with. Makes me laugh
timid otter
I always believed that the weapons psyker did get access to wasnt very well-thought.
keen sedge
How important is cleave?
how important are deez nuts
gritty dock
How important is cleave?
From what I know, very important.
ionic hull
@formal lake heres a question that popped into my head if we gave a Zealot and a Vet the same Devil Claw sword and put them in the Senario in the video you sent the Vet would win yea given the melee buffs Vet has?
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hearty panther
finally, another gentleman recognizes the superiority of lawbringer
molten dew
plasma gun really feels like the best gun to try getting the 90% penance. piercing gives you leeway if someone kills your target before you fire.
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How are yall leveling em?
umbral scaffold
why do i have you blocked
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How are yall leveling em?
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molten dew
also. you remembering to get some burner curios and change one of the perks to 10% exp?
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keen sedge
why does nobody use smoke bombs?
molten dew
theyre bad
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why does nobody use smoke bombs?
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keen sedge
how are they bad, i've never used them personally but i wanna know
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Gotta hit up every EXP+ curiooo but eh maybe i should use my 5th slot to see how bad it is
molten dew
for CC i always just use a Mk1 Devilclaw
terse idol
why does nobody use smoke bombs?
Uh
molten dew
sure its not hard CC but with savage sweep you can mow down a horde easy
terse idol
They dont stop shooters from shooting your last known position
And appearently snipers cheat
molten dew
yeah
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keen sedge
maybe have them make enemies move slower or stun them when in the smoke?
molten dew
honestly make it hard to see through for players and make it when your basically in stealth while inside its radius.
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Which is fibe
Since shooters can't pin point you
molten dew
they can
molten dew
if they couldnt it would be great
terse idol
Because it doesn't block Los when you're inside
terse idol
if they couldnt it would be great
I mean they do have trouble
Again it is the issue that smokes are maybe a little hard to understand for no reason
And their impact isn't as clear as say
A psyker shield
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keen sedge
is there a sniper in darktide?
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keen sedge
add sniper is darktide, give snipers a taste of their medicine FUCK SNIPERS FUCK YOU YOU PIECES OF SHIT I WILL SHOVE YOUR SNIPER RIFLE UP YOUR ASS
zealous wyvern
i feel like the main reason why combat axes are so good is that their blessings are so good
if the other weapons had their blessings
that would be a pretty big deal
but the high damage also is a reason
whole moon
add sniper is darktide, give snipers a taste of their medicine FUCK SNIPERS FUCK...
This is why I love showing them the Long Rock on my Ogryn
zealous wyvern
like all these massive buffs
soft solstice
If they added the sniper, the only way it'd have the stats that I'd be satisfied with is if it had like 30 shots max which would kind of a pain to use
terse idol
If they added the sniper, the only way it'd have the stats that I'd be satisfied...
Depending on the damage it might have just 15
zealous wyvern
If they added the sniper, the only way it'd have the stats that I'd be satisfied...
or single shot and slower use
revolver is quite fast
soft solstice
making smokes grant stealth would be better but it'd also be very abusiable
zealous wyvern
with 50ish shots
the sniper could have same ammo count but more damage with less speed
soft solstice
I'd want a sniper to 1 shot everything but an ogryn with a body shot
keen sedge
Smoke extinguish Fire, and actually block sniper LOS
ACTUALLY YES MAKE IT TAKE OUT FIRES
zealous wyvern
i think the sniper should have the sniper shot as a special that requires more ammo
and the normal shot to just be a strong dmr
that way you also dont need to have a scope on all shots you do
soft solstice
I don't think smokes are consistent enough at their jobs. They're worst than psyker bubble shield in nearly every way except that smokes don't run out early
keen sedge
Make it extinguish flames on the ground and gives resistances to fire damage
zealous wyvern
annoying in horde games
placid portal
Smoke extinguish Fire, and actually block sniper LOS
when in 40k universe smoke grenades can't produce IRS screening
zealous wyvern
snipers being able to shoot you in it is a joke
terse idol
Have infrared
soft solstice
i think the sniper should have the sniper shot as a special that requires more a...
that's kind of how I wish the shotguns worked, instead of loading a special shell, the using the special fire makes all the shots special but more ammo cost depending on the specific shotgun
terse idol
Yeahhh
cloud leaf
vet is still broken and stupid op
placid portal
nice
zealous wyvern
taking the bolter for a spin with a nonsense ammo build
i like the increased ammo drops in levels tbh. it makes bolter usable
magdumping hordes
zealous wyvern
because i wanted to bring bolter and go boom
this is my gunner character
not my trooper
placid portal
fair enough
soft solstice
I feel like the one thing that'd hold a proper sniper back would be how the game treats ammo. It'd also kind of just feel like bolter but slow, stable, and with a scope
zealous wyvern
i do that on my trooper
zealous wyvern
an abomination
soft solstice
I think using a plasma gun with all charge shots would work better than a sniper rifle
zealous wyvern
hipfire: dmr with vraksish damage
aim fire: dmr with vraksish damage
special fire: extremely high damage singleshot
and its ammo would overall be around 60
the special shot takes 2-3 bullets
terse idol
hipfire: dmr with vraksish damage
aim fire: dmr with vraksish damage
special fir...
It should make a sound similar to the snipers on special fire
😌
placid portal
Dunno if that were the case it contends with other markmens high damage weapons
zealous wyvern
no it would have less ammo
half the ammo of them
no
less
almost a quarter
you cannot use it like them
terse idol
Then it contends with plasmagun, and revolver... and bolter which is fine I think
placid portal
Vraks mk7- an all rounder DMR
Revolver- fast response deleter
Helbore- Lasgun that snipes
Plasma- Literal railcannon
glacial beacon
which is better for horde clear power sword or chainsword
zealous wyvern
better single target but worse overall
i mean let us be honest here. there is always weapons that are this-but-worse
and that is fine as long as both are roughly the same
zealous wyvern
both viable and not too far apart
placid portal
would root for a sniper rifle
especially if it's a bolt action bc WH 40k still uses em for PDF
frozen meadow
I would like a proper sniper too
frozen meadow
Just for cool factor
zealous wyvern
games usually have some redundancy
for variety
so people can use something they like
flavourwise
zealous wyvern
not every weapon needs to reinvent the wheel after all
placid portal
waxen veldt
Worth grabbing or is that stopping power a dealbreaker?
solar sky
grab it for the blessings, but the stopping power is too low
placid portal
try it out on a spin
fallow compass
what mod gives the auto rifles the different sight?
zealous wyvern
because that is pretty important
i would get it though. for the dumdum IV
to earn it
frozen meadow
Is there a guide for vet weapons similar to the ogrynomicon?
Such as reccomended perks, blessings and stat distribution
terse idol
You can always ask here 😌
But I haven't seen one yet
lethal sorrel
Anyone knows how much damage a single poxwalker do on Damnation ? I got clipped for a 100 health dmg by a single one on my vet, not sure if it's kosher
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frozen meadow
That's a shame, hopefully someone can compile a rough one eventually
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torn gorge
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torn gorge
thats not a loadout issue tbf
frozen meadow
Play on harder difficulties imo, I can't complete malice but damnation is easy since better teammates
dusk idol
hey does anyone have a good kantrael shotty here?
solar sky
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What build are you trying to make work? YOu don't have to stick with meta things but you do need a good talent tree
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solar sky
You have 26 talents points, what did you do with them?
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Heresy used to be filled w green players trying to get a boost. I went straight to Damnation on the advice of here and it was much easier.
zealous wyvern
any heresy mission i do these days end with at least one daemonhost being triggered and usually ending the run
left zephyr
You have 26 talents points, what did you do with them?
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zealous wyvern
or weaking us enough to have a horde do it
i have failed 8/10 heresy missions
and in all of them, at least 1 dh was triggered
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zealous wyvern
i also have 1/6 no death missions for melk on my main char
because there is never a clean run
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zealous wyvern
i have that 1/6 from an uprising run for fun lol
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amber portal
whats the base crit for vets? and is it also for melee and ranged?
sonic coyote
What do you guys think about melee vet builds? No team support, no survivalist. Being a Zealot but vet.
whole moon
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Are you playing with a regular group or randoms all the time?
zealous wyvern
sounds like public
whole moon
Ikr
zealous wyvern
not because its bad
just because they did not mention friends
so i assume randoms
left zephyr
Are you playing with a regular group or randoms all the time?
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whole moon
The only reason I asked is partaking in a high intensity combat mission with random people you don't speak to... Expect to lose more than you win. That should be expected
zealous wyvern
my missions just fail because they always trigger DH
does not really matter if we have comms or not
whole moon
Yeah QP probably matching u w some console players on default sensitivity. Try the lfg channels here instead
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zealous wyvern
any level of competence will only trigger a DH every other week
accidentally
i dont mind them. their right to play heresy
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zealous wyvern
just saying i would not blame it on them being randoms
if they were my friends theyd suck just as bad
but they definitely do
atomic zephyr
i blame randoms but sometimes im the one skill issuing
zealous wyvern
oh definitely
if i was super good i could carry
but i am nowhere near good enough to just handle a heresy DH as a veteran
i dont have a shield or zealot melee tech
left zephyr
i blame randoms but sometimes im the one skill issuing
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whole moon
It's the familiarity I'm mainly getting at. A regular team learns how each other plays. Randoms are as their name suggests
zealous wyvern
my only hope is getting 2 nades in while it sucks the soul out of its first victim
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zealous wyvern
and my shout if i am on my shout vet
to stun it once
and refill my tough
but thats it
not enough to solo it with 3 noobs who have no idea what is happening
timid otter
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Git gud pretty much
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Git gud pretty much
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timid otter
Though actual advice would be using good weapons
wind bone
did they make the game harder again
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Though actual advice would be using good weapons
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wind bone
it feels like more enemies are spawning
zealous wyvern
the directori s on drugs now
wind bone
wtf
whole moon
No point until lvl30, crafting gimped so is Brunt n Melk
flint garden
yeah director got buffed
zealous wyvern
it seems completely unbalanced considering the mediocre rewards for t5
but i enjoy it
timid otter
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True but picking some weapons does make it easier as a low level
wind bone
can they just fire every employee and start over
because clearly nobody is making good decisions
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his point is moreso using good models
flint garden
plasteel and dockets buff never
timid otter
Take it from someone who has leveled 7 characters
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wind bone
director is straight up ridiculous now
zealous wyvern
powersword maybe not idk
timid otter
Ex lacerate, fleshtearer on zealot.
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zealous wyvern
no practice
whole moon
because clearly nobody is making good decisions
We're all still playing the game and sacking everyone pretty much guarantees this game dies as getting another dev team in to understand the previous teams code flow with none of them to coach em thru it probably isn't happening
wind bone
f
keen sedge
best shotgun to use?
dusk idol
lawbringer
dusk idol
i was just doing some testing with shotguns actually
blazing veldt
lawbringer got buffed
umbral scaffold
its called a difficulty tweak
dusk idol
lawbringer and kantrael have the same breakpoints except for three
timid otter
Revolver, infantry autoguns would be strong low level as they either arent strongly impacted by bps or easyily get over those breakpoints
dusk idol
kantrael will hit the 2 shot bp on ragers more often, lawbringer will hit 3 shot bp on ragers if you're not carefully aiming for the head
blazing veldt
tbh revolver isn't worth if if you can't reliably 2 shot crushers/maulers
teal wyvern
Idk if it’s known but the vet toughness greater than health bug is back. If I take melee dmg with full toughness it chips my health away
timid otter
Pretty sure the laspistol would also be strong?
dusk idol
lawbringer hits a 3 shot bp on maulers while kantrael can do it in 2
blazing veldt
laspistol is strong on its own
dusk idol
but lawbringer hits a 2 shot bp on reapers and kantrael is 3
whole moon
Yeah laspistol should be decent
dusk idol
lawbringer also has greater range and tighter spread
blazing veldt
lp rips through anything with flak armor
dusk idol
a lot of kantrael bps are att 5-6 meters
whereas lawbringer is at 12-14 meters
the lawbringer also has greater capacity and reserve
timid otter
Alot of the weapons also need to be taken with context of classes
dusk idol
so imo, lawbringer is better
torn gorge
from what i have seen lawbringer is overall better
timid otter
Deimos for example is a broken weapon for a low level psyker
torn gorge
if you are trying to get quick kills
dusk idol
the kantrael is most effective at a distance you should have your melee out
timid otter
It quickly makes psyker able to do damage even in damnation at like level 6
dusk idol
best shotgun to use?
so, bring a lawbringer
full bore and no respite are extremely solid blessings
blazing veldt
lawbringer bringer
dusk idol
if you want to gimmick the lawbringer you can use scattershot and flechette
but i don't really like those blessings
blazing veldt
idk I've seen too many barrels blow up by stray assails
dusk idol
kantrael might actually be better on zealot than lawbringer
thinking about their 20% range damage talent
might hit different bps, will have to do testing there
dusk idol
but yeah, for veteran I am of the belief lawbringer is better than kantrael
it performs similarly or better at range
torn gorge
my gripe is that if you do the special activation and fire too quickly you wont get the horizontal spread
dusk idol
with more ammunition to spare, which is nice
dusk idol
my gripe is that if you do the special activation and fire too quickly you wont ...
i just load special and then ADS to skip the pump animation
works errytime unless i'm high ping
torn gorge
i think new scattershot lawbringer is even better at what kantrael used to be
aka clearing hordes
outside of the obvious dragonfire round overpenetrating bulwark shields
dusk idol
the fact that dragonsbreath can open up bulwark shields is a nice point in the kantraels favour though
whole moon
And the inf cleave on the fire rounds
dusk idol
yeah, i'm still a lawbringer stan at the end of the day
it just feels the most shotgunny to me
kantrael feels like a call of duty shotgun
agri feels like a lever action rifle
soft solstice
also ammo is a big factor too
lawbringer got enough shots that I wouldn't mind using it against hordes, though i'd probably still take an autogun instead
nimble wadi
And the inf cleave on the fire rounds
whole moon
Yo Stan!
dusk idol
lawbringer got enough shots that I wouldn't mind using it against hordes, though...
yeah i wouldn't begrudge myself popping a few special shots into chaff
acoustic totem
soft solstice
I like the sniper special alot but think it's bad as a normal shotgun otherwise, never really used the others but the update should have made them much much better
wind bone
why do teammates spawn way too far away on some parts of the new map
like after they die
pulsar drift
isnt that normal for every map?
usually the first death is very near
but then it just gets spread out
wind bone
its especially bad here
pulsar drift
guess its just bad luck
soft solstice
i feel like the game just does that sometimes on every map
whole moon
like after they die
If the team rushes ahead it affects spawn points. Best thing to do is hold position n wait for respawn before moving up again
amber portal
hard to manage things like that in a pug tho
pulsar drift
the spawn point just push back
idk I played for almost 500 hours and feel like
usually the first death is very near
dont know why but then it just gets random
amber portal
big e was like but no damage tho
whole moon
big e was like *but no damage tho*
That's not that bad if your looking for something to fill a gap
amber portal
That's not that bad if your looking for something to fill a gap
which hellbore is best tho
amber portal
3 does most damage but slowest charge, 1 least but fastest
hmmm i have a good 3, havent played around with 1 or 2
pulsar drift
but 3 is most effective against orgyns
whole moon
I also would 3 (or 2)
pulsar drift
so
finite imp
literally just played with a bunch of people who were on cocaine. epic
pulsar drift
lol
finite imp
they were amazing players
lmao
like some of the most beautiful shit ive seen
doing bumps in airlocks
fading grove
I know people mostly poopoo on the chain axe but what blessings would you run if you had to
finite imp
i think ive seen you asking this before
it's hard to guage on such an unpopular weapon
fading grove
I think I have. I forgot
whole moon
I've asked it before too. I don't think enough ppl use it to answer
fading grove
lol
pulsar drift
headtaker+slaughterer
finite imp
Yeah i was gonna say
pulsar drift
or thrust
finite imp
if anyone know it'll be azreal
fading grove
headtaker+slaughterer
Are those the power on hit and kill combo
pulsar drift
btw thats wat ppl suggest for zealots
never used it on vet
rev it up is the most fun
perks are always flak and maniac btw
pulsar drift
Are those the power on hit and kill combo
yup
torn gorge
And the inf cleave on the fire rounds
if you run scattershot you clear waves faster tbh, up until carapace
which is DISAPPOINTING
pulsar drift
kinda like chainsword u just left spam
torn gorge
as i wanna set everything on fire
soft solstice
rev it up is fun but the noise gets annoying after awhile
amber portal
best single target special in game, still cant get over being stuck in light attack animation tho
pulsar drift
thats why I run powersowrd these days
fading grove
I like to use the chain ace when I warm up or otherwise don't play max difficulty. So fun. But a bit sluggish in crazy hordes
soft solstice
I think I'd rather just run a chainsword, I don't really remember anything the chainaxe did better
pulsar drift
it was 4 swing last patach and now is liek 6-7
cuz they took the 15 elites dmg away sadge
for melee build
bloodletter is great
but idk why evisceraror only stack 5
and chainsword can stack 14
no clue
amber portal
So does onslaught mean i have to hit 1 target at time or can I swing into a horde and everything i hit gets brittleness?
deep igloo
there any good weapon combos for going down to weapon specialist keystone?
soft solstice
i'm pretty sure the swing itself is a crit rather than the hit self, so if you swing, hit 3 targets, and get a crit, it counts as a cirt for all 3
shell widget
What about for general use? Thunderous + headtaker/Slaughterer for a rounded combo? Would it also work with revolvers, or is the axe too focused on single target to be able to compensate for the not-steller horde control?
soft solstice
rather an each invidual hit having it's own chance to crit
pulsar drift
so on slaughter is worth taking?
for power sword
i feel like it does not make huge difference
amber portal
the previous chaxe meta was to spam push block attack dont know if that is still the case
shell widget
I want to like combat axes, but they don't have enough horizontal swing for my liking
amber portal
cause it horizontal and cleaves
shell widget
Oh shit yikes that bad?
pulsar drift
wat burtal momentum is no longer a meme?
soft solstice
i tried power sword weapon specialist and while the extra attack was nice, I don't think it really did much to help it
viral nacelle
But it looks dumb
soft solstice
I'd say something with really good lights for hordes, like maybe chainsword, knife could work nicely since your normal dash dance with it, same with shovel but shovel is much more about those heavies for hordes
pulsar drift
the only problem i have with combat axe is it does not kill crushers horde fast enough
soft solstice
i always found hte combat axe super slow and too single target to be worth using
amber portal
knife on anything but a zealot not a meme anymore?
pulsar drift
anything else feel great
soft solstice
commando gets a ton of stuff to buff the knife though I never really ran it on veteran post class rework
fading grove
Which combat axe is that in the clip
viral nacelle
Are they gonna tone down how point heavy the vet skill trees are?
amber portal
yeah knife is high skill floor for little reward imo
soft solstice
a mk4 tactical axe is really nice
pulsar drift
is that a rank list?
soft solstice
Eh, knife is just all about getting headshots and luck with crits, which isn't hard
amber portal
Eh, knife is just all about getting headshots and luck with crits, which isn't h...
but caxe and ps can do the same thing with less work
soft solstice
shovel should be on that, the shovel is so damn excellent
soft solstice
if anything power sword takes the most work of all the veteran weapons since you have to constantly be juggling hte special fire and block canceling and doing push attack stuff
pulsar drift
is becuz it swings slower?
amber portal
weird I thought power sowrd 3 is better than 6
6 powered push block attack is insane
also 6 light spam is more horizontal than 3
pulsar drift
okay I just tried 3 today and feels good
soft solstice
i tihnk the block animation cancel is only with he mk6, and you don't heavy attack with it, you do the special, spam 3 light attacks to delete hordes and elites, and repeat
pulsar drift
used 6 only in the past
soft solstice
I pretty much never use the heavies on the power sword unless I'm hitting a single target, but even then in most cases 3 really fast powered lights will ruin most things
PC4 on a power sword lets you rip through rager hordes unlike any other melee
soft solstice
powering up, sweeping into 4 ragers and killing them in like 2 swings feels great
amber portal
rate my in between shovel
soft solstice
wouldn't it be inverted and also tilted to be what you're thinking of
whole moon
If your referencing the Hakenkreuz then the flares should turn right not left
soft solstice
that's pretty much a perfect shovel I think, I'd replace skullcrusher with unrending strike but that's still the second best blessing you could have had
astral blade
i just got called an ammo goblin in the last mission i did
soft solstice
I think with hammerblow, your light attacks can stunlock ragers and maybe maulers? I forgot about ogryns
it can stagger them in a single horiziontal hit unlike the special which can pretty much stagger anything but is only a single target jab
amber portal
I think with hammerblow, your light attacks can stunlock ragers and maybe mauler...
yeah i was thinking of making the same build as my zealot's crusher
but it does have a different blessing pool
soft solstice
ragers usually spawn in like groups of 2-3 so being able to lock them down for free buys some nice breathing room
amber portal
the zealot crusher treats everything like bowling pins, i know the feeling lolol
soft solstice
crusher was nice when I tried it out but I like the evicerator more, mostly because i like heavy light for horde clear better than light heavy, it flows better for me
wise bridge
i just got called an ammo goblin in the last mission i did
well, were you?
soft solstice
I think my problem with that one is more just getting my stamina down that low. If you do get it low you can just dodge dance to keep it form coming back
amber portal
crusher was nice when I tried it out but I like the evicerator more, mostly beca...
i was on the same thought, but i always got hard stopped by mauler crusher packs and i got tired of it
soft solstice
i pretty much never push attack, even if it's free compared to vermintide. shovel is just a heavyattack spam weapon since they c harge so fast after the update
I pretty much never run thrust on anything since unless I'm doing a big charging attack at something, I also do the minimum amount of charge for heavies
analog blaze
Is a combat blade not good without Mercy Killer (the bonus damage against bleeding enemies)
finite imp
i just got called an ammo goblin in the last mission i did
the fact they took time to stop and call you out for it
amber portal
thunderhammer enters the chat
arctic hull
I dont understand how you can ever get this penance until solo play comes out:
im almost level 1000 in total if u add up my 4 characters
and ive beaten 9 missions where no one has gone down lmao
at some point ur gonna realize that this game is just family simulator 2.0
i can gurantee that i wont go down
i cant gurantee that the others wont
yeah ive spent over 30k plasteel getting a near perfect evis
fiery flume
what is the dump stat for the plasma gun?
arctic hull
was more disappointing than when my son was born
astral blade
the fact they took time to stop and call you out for it
you be surprised how petty people can be
finite imp
you be surprised how petty people can be
no i wouldnt
im in the veteran discord
so are you
astral blade
no i wouldnt
point taken
finite imp
lmao
finite imp
Look man if you were gobblin down some ammo on a CIAG that's just how she goes
feed the beast
fiery flume
i just got called an ammo goblin in the last mission i did
I just played a game with an ammo goblin
Dude had an accatran and just hosed everything
finite imp
that CIAG is a fucking ammo swallower
dusk jacinth
yeah ive spent over 30k plasteel getting a near perfect evis
a whole 3 evis can be bought with 30k
your not trying very hard
idle dirge
Seems like a nice replacement (left is new)
finite imp
personally i barely put the knife down
idle dirge
Right doesn't have good perks / blessings
finite imp
but if it's something that gets too hot i pull out the Agri braced auto
astral blade
that CIAG is a fucking ammo swallower
isn't the bolter the ammo swallower?
dusk jacinth
dude
amber portal
it does what you want it to do until you hit crushers or maulers T_T
astral blade
Both of them bubby
columnus infantry autogun i was using
dusk jacinth
WHY THE FUCK CAN MAX LEVEL STILL GOT RATING 300 ITEMS
I WANT
370
NOT 308
IM NOT LEVEL 20
whole moon
RNGesus
finite imp
columnus infantry autogun i was using
funny how i was able to guess
dusk jacinth
no
i think regardless u should get 1k as a mission complete reward
and added ontop is the plasteel u collected
astral blade
funny how i was able to guess
I only use the columnus on my infiltrator build
whole moon
A bit over the top no? Every mission you do you can make a transcendent weapon?
amber portal
i mean like i read your bottom half of your thought then the top half
so i thought we were getting it already
dusk jacinth
A bit over the top no? Every mission you do you can make a transcendent weapon?
i see no issue
with not grinding for an hour
to get a chance to get a good weapon
plasteels already annoying as shit to get
theres a reason every mf has like 10k of the purple glowey cube things
and like 2 plasteel
at all times
amber portal
imo 2 mission = an orange
astral blade
My commissar build uses the graia braced autogun and my exe stance build uses the vraks 7
amber portal
3 is an 1hr30
whole moon
with not grinding for an hour
It's this grind that allows you to experience the plot via the dialogue of the characters. It's the reason some of the penances require missions in the hundreds. The grind IS this game
dusk jacinth
It's this grind that allows you to experience the plot via the dialogue of the c...
or u know
the ghrind could be if u wanna grind
and just let people play the game for fun
and not have to play a fucking gacha crafting minigame
astral blade
funny how i was able to guess
Soooo I mean I do have different guns for different builds
dusk jacinth
vermintide had da shit down 2 formula..........
anytime i needed shit i had it but i couldnt just spend it all at once
i love vermintide 2.................
tall torrent
I dont understand how you can ever get this penance until solo play comes out:
I’m at 90/100 rn
whole moon
Play w no progres becomes boring. Grinding the mats to make better weapons extends the players playtime with the game which FS actively want and need
dusk jacinth
Play w no progres becomes boring. Grinding the mats to make better weapons exten...
u could also just play for fun
and not
play
gacha
minigame
delicate moat
Soooo I mean I do have different guns for different builds
thats like nothing, consider the bolter gamers that mag dump into trash and lone poxwalkers and then "i need ammo" before first swarm even hits
dusk jacinth
u dont have to give me a fucking godroll weapon everytime
but playing an hour just to maybe get a good weapon
and not get shafted by hadrons rng
whole moon
u could also just play for fun
Your assuming I'm not somehow but I am
dusk jacinth
is annoying
dusk jacinth
Your assuming I'm not somehow but I am
i think its cause u like slop
delicate moat
Play w no progres becomes boring. Grinding the mats to make better weapons exten...
i play this game for its core mechanics because it's fun, not because fking RNGesus crafting system
tall torrent
what do I change on this?
Limbsplitter to uncanny strike
dusk jacinth
what do I change on this?
idk maniac probably
shovel can stun maniacs
and u should always stun maniacs with shovel
cause it goes
d'onk
whole moon
i play this game for its core mechanics because it's fun, not because fking RNGe...
Oh same. I'm not defending the crafting, just defending not getting 1k plasteel a mission
delicate moat
i see zero issues in that proposal
next hedge
Any hope in saving this?
delicate moat
why can't people get more plasteel
astral blade
thats like nothing, consider the bolter gamers that mag dump into trash and lone...
Heh I mean it was a Bolter zealot that called me an ammo goblin
delicate moat
it's not like hadron won't brick ur shit anyway
dusk jacinth
excatly
i shouldnt have 800 plasteel normally and fucking 10k of those glowey orbs
that are supposed to be rarer
delicate moat
Heh I mean it was a Bolter zealot that called me an ammo goblin
LMAO
because they were likely goblin the ammo
delicate moat
tall torrent
Vet’s best melee still:
Mk2 /5 combat axe
Mk6 power sword
Mk4 /7 devil’s claw
Shovel
?
What perks do I want on devil’s claw
I have a 10% elite
And 8% weakpoint
delicate moat
how? i agree with ordo because fk brunt, but i never run out of diamantine?
dusk jacinth
is it worth it to use power sword without power cycler
tall torrent
how? i agree with ordo because fk brunt, but i never run out of diamantine?
IV blessings apparently spawn more frequently if taken to gold
south garnet
So are we less, or more, depressed about the tree than the day it dropped
whole moon
how? i agree with ordo because fk brunt, but i never run out of diamantine?
Red weapons aren't live yet. You'll burn your Diamantine once they are
delicate moat
IV blessings apparently spawn more frequently if taken to gold
fair, but like if I get +1.5 stamina, 15% sprint efficiency and a trash blessing lul
south garnet
Red weapons aren't live yet. You'll burn your Diamantine once they are
Speaking of which, lazyass teammates not picking up tall diamantine stacks because it's currently worthless grinds my gears
torn gorge
if they ever make crit last the whole duration
south garnet
I wonder if they'll end up tweaking left keystone
delicate moat
Speaking of which, lazyass teammates not picking up tall diamantine stacks becau...
i sometimes play knife builds just so i can do the zoomies and pick up mats
bright cliff
Vet’s best melee still:
Mk2 /5 combat axe
Mk6 power sword
Mk4 /7 devil’s claw
Sh...
no reason to use anything but a shovel. power swords are for those who lead from the back
south garnet
i sometimes play knife builds just so i can do the zoomies and pick up mats
Same, enter hoover mode
I still end up spending all my plasteel across all 4 classes
tall torrent
no reason to use anything but a shovel. power swords are for those who lead from...
Shovel is very RNG dependent
10 blessings moment
bright cliff
oh I thought you meant like
in combat
yeah well the crafting system will not get between me and my entrenching tool
(shovel my beloved)
flint lake
The shovel is just a tool to get out of melee.
bright cliff
I have the one that grants stacks of brittle and the one that grants stacks of stagger and that’s rnough for me
bright cliff
The shovel is just a tool to get out of melee.
shovel gets me out of melee by killing things
tall torrent
I will give credit, full 5 stacks of uncanny into a push overhead is pretty crazy
frozen meadow
When do I use plasmagun normal attack and charged?
bright cliff
I will give credit, full 5 stacks of uncanny into a push overhead is pretty craz...
that push overhead is just pristine
tall torrent
When do I use plasmagun normal attack and charged?
Charged into big group of elite
Regular against elites & specials
bright cliff
i judge melees entirely by weapon feel. the stats will come after
frozen meadow
Is charged more cleave or more damage?
frozen meadow
Thanks I always used charged on everything since I thought that was best
acoustic wyvern
roboo leg
viral nacelle
Robo leg is fine so long as it’s not the middle one
acoustic wyvern
new paid cosmetic yes
frozen meadow
No unlockable cosmetics, sad
acoustic wyvern
ngl the new paid cosmetics looks like ass
also ogryns lookin like woody harrelson
blazing veldt
I wish there was a way to filter out certain abilities
I refuse to play with assail psykers
bright cliff
p14 dropped and every lobby had 3+ psykers. then p15 came and every lobby has 3 vets
south garnet
More like ass fail LMAO!
blazing veldt
it's not that I don' like the ability it's that I don't like the people specifically
thorny cobalt
it's not that I don' like the ability it's that I don't like the people specific...
I think in the past two weeks I've seen exactly one assail psyker, and she was..okay?
definitely not carrying but she still contributed
bright cliff
I mean yeah sinceall the damage is talent based i keep finding psyker s w no stats pushing mael and dying
fast scaffold
I'm sure assail still over performs in malice, like everything else, I'm sure revolver fix hurt assail a fair amount too
south garnet
it's not that I don' like the ability it's that I don't like the people specific...
I have no real feelings about assail players but wholeheartedly agree with disliking groups of players over game mechanics
opal loom
I'm sure assail still over performs in malice, like everything else, I'm sure re...
assail is the best psyker ability since the other two sucks. Easier to just dump all 10 shards for quick DPS burst/horde clear
arctic hull
Play w no progres becomes boring. Grinding the mats to make better weapons exten...
problem is, its simply too hard to get the right blessings and perk set up on a weapon
silent nebula
assail is the best psyker ability since the other two sucks. Easier to just dump...
Wha? Smite is amazing, stunlocks anything short of monstrosities
arctic hull
For example if u want a specific T4 blessing on a weapon with 11 T4 blessings, your chances of getting that blessing is very small
since u have a chance of getting T3 blessings too
silent nebula
Wha? Smite is amazing, stunlocks anything short of monstrosities
But uh yeah brainburst kinda got left behind compared to assail and smite lol
opal loom
Eh, fair enough. Smite is a close 2nd.
fast scaffold
As with anything in darktide this patch, it matters more whose hands it's in vs the tool itself.
whole moon
problem is, its simply too hard to get the right blessings and perk set up on a ...
And the problem here is people want perfect over functional. I've got plenty of 'bricked' or 'useless' weapons that work perfectly fine
opal loom
BB should be an instant cast with a cooldown after the fact. The way it is right now is too fekking slow for too little of a reward.
whole moon
BB should be an instant cast with a cooldown after the fact. The way it is right...
Precharge the attack (RMB)
arctic hull
And the problem here is people want perfect over functional. I've got plenty of ...
People with thousands of hours in this game deserve perfect lol
Otherwise u could spend ur whole life playing this game and never getting what u want
which is ridiculous
neat ferry
How have you guys been with recon lasguns this patch?
whole moon
I don't agree here. But hey, each to their own
cinder zephyr
so my brain is the dumb, can someone explain to me the difference between slughterer and rampage as it would function on a power sword?
whole moon
How have you guys been with recon lasguns this patch?
Nerfed into ground, best changing weapon class until they rework the entire recon group
arctic hull
Nerfed into ground, best changing weapon class until they rework the entire reco...
they are ok on scrier psyker
but otherwise u will have no ammo after 10 seconds of continuous fire
bright ocean
Nerfed into ground, best changing weapon class until they rework the entire reco...
double rending build seems to rip enemies apart.
When your teammates aren't completely blocking you.
sinful sedge
dang, I was sleeping on Combat Axe, Rashad does work
whole moon
double rending build seems to rip enemies apart.
Maybe the reports are worse than reality. I know my vets VId feels fkn useless. Using laspistol for what it's role was
arctic hull
Anyone know why ur weapon skins dont show up in the mission lobby?
hollow hinge
i've mostly been using the kantrael mkix combat shotgun
whole moon
Was reading earlier the Lawgiver got a lot of love recently
neat ferry
I found it hard to stack rending with this new array. Any idea what's the best route?
junior needle
How have you guys been with recon lasguns this patch?
2 and 7a are dog (dps is too low and ammo issues), 6d is low tier (can get comparably "acceptable" dps but way too much ammo usage for it). They're in big need of an overhaul and got massive undocumented nerfs last patch.
hollow hinge
thanks
hollow solstice
Ngl it would be sick if they added a voice box cosmetic that made you sound like a robot
torn gorge
any non revolver-plasma setup gets hard countered by ogryns and clueless teammates 
south garnet
Rending was basically btfo'd completely
Either do it via blessing or not at all more or less
hollow hinge
after this recent update, everyone is playing veteran
junior needle
Onslaught is still very good but, big point investment if you aren't going that route
Also not good for slow fire rate guns
junior needle
They need to stop naming things like that
hollow hinge
yeah
south garnet
They need to stop naming things like that
There are 2 talent nodes called always prepared or whatever lol
junior needle
That's the one
delicate moat
so i think im ass with psword but can handle dclaw just fine
is it the dodge distance?
terse idol
so i think im ass with psword but can handle dclaw just fine
just gotta practiiice
sharp epoch
mobiltiy is a lot worse on psword
south garnet
One day I expect to see fatshark refer to themselves as sharkfat or fatfat as they continue to completely lose grip on the concept of language
sharp epoch
dodge, block, and speed are low
whole moon
Charge while dodging and dodge sliding
terse idol
One day I expect to see fatshark refer to themselves as sharkfat or fatfat as th...
We did have the peak of it with the Obese Megalodon
delicate moat
TIL u can get trapped inside archivum sycorax maze section
fading anvil
I knew the Sword parry was good but just discovered it can completely negate a Crusher's overhead, even killed the (admitably weakened) crusher to add injury to insult
Just the image of a wee lil' vet with their toothpick sword completely blocking a overheaded swing from a big ass ogryn is funny to me
torn gorge
dclaw is goated
thick rose
dclaw relationship ended once I got a rashad
placid portal
Just the image of a wee lil' vet with their toothpick sword completely blocking ...
How it feels to parry Crusher Overhead
crisp temple
fatshark, can you add the steel legion m36 lasgun variant with the removed/foldable stock?
gusty blaze
can anyone explain or give a link discription of exactly how ranged finesse power modifies stats? like i have zero clue exactly how strong or weak the left side tree keystone is cause obviously vets have no ranged weapons with a finesse modifier so i'm just confused they picked that wording as a newer player i don't understand the wording well.
tall torrent
is it the dodge distance?
Somewhat
fading anvil
I don't entirely understand alot of the keywords either but as far as I know Finesse basically just means your headshots deal more damage and additional crit damage if it was a crit
gusty blaze
So no modifier to actual crit chance? just it's output potential? cause yeah it confuses me that fatshark uses these terms but with no access or reference point of what things actually do.
tall torrent
So no modifier to actual crit chance? just it's output potential? cause yeah it ...
Finesse is weakpoint & crit dmg
midnight mortar
Finesse power means it only applies to weakpoint damage and critical hit damage, which is what finesse itself modifies.
atomic zephyr
how's this? recoverable?
midnight mortar
Finesse can also modify attack speed, but that only applies to melee weapons whereupon you can see the finesse stat bar.
fading anvil
I think on some melee weapons it affects attack speed
tall torrent
And it’s a percentage of a percentage increase
Regular atk 100 dmg
Weakpoint 150 dmg
+30% weakpoint is +30% of 50 dmg (difference between regular & weakpoint)
fading anvil
But for guns its just gonna be gooder-er headshots
tall torrent
The weakpoint & crit percentage increases are percentages of the +% of the base weapon
So if the base weapon doesn’t have drastically higher weakpoint/crit dmg compared to normal
You’re gaining very little
finite imp
Just the image of a wee lil' vet with their toothpick sword completely blocking ...
aint shit
finite imp
how's this? recoverable?
the fuck do you mean
you could take away everything but uncanny strike
and you'd have a good knife
bright ocean
Maybe the reports are worse than reality. I know my vets VId feels fkn useless. ...
One thing I'm noticing is that allies seem to be blocking the recon rifle shots. Seems pretty messed up.
tall torrent
One thing I'm noticing is that allies seem to be blocking the recon rifle shots....
Teammates can block most of your ranged attacks
Use plasma gun to shoot through them and hit what’s in front of them
bright ocean
A fair number of guns do this.
finite imp
replace haymaker with like
bright ocean
I don't want to have to run plasma all the time. That would just be dumb.
tall torrent
how's this? recoverable?
Haymaker to mercy killer
Take melee bleed talent
U have a pretty serviceable knife
finite imp
or whatever the crit bleeder is
as far as like perks go
Swap the top one to something for armor
finite imp
and you're having fun
gusty blaze
yeah majority of all ranged weapons for all classes can hit allies. You will see a color shift of the icon when it hits a ally. Aside from plasma, bolter(?) and certain weapons' with penetration you ally is a bullet sponge. It's why having a Ogryn on your team who is playing range alot but decides to be dead center of the fire area will actually cause alot of problems. Any ogryn bois out there. if you are not a up in there face fighter don't stand right in front of your vet. Vet can't do their job most the time with your giant hitbox in the way lol
finite imp
remember those heavy strikes, stay light on your feet, and you can answer just about everything in the game without even pulling out your gun
i can solo bosses with the knife
all about timing
tender rose
the empra is always generous
atomic zephyr
what are good blessings for revolver? surgical hand cannon?
woeful ibex
Auric Loot
real mantle
accatran lasgun or Agripinaa auto gun
woeful ibex
accatran lasgun or Agripinaa auto gun
Accatran MK VIIA lasgun for me
fading anvil
Handcannon is a must on the revolver but 2nd blessing comes down to personal choice if I recall
dusky flare
Auric Loot
stopping power is a damage modifier btw
gusty blaze
surgical is quite strong though so don't sleep on it as it can guarantee a crit weak point often.
fading anvil
Yeah Surg is what I run on mine but I have eyed the reload speed on close range kill for my Zealot tbh
woeful ibex
stopping power is a damage modifier btw
really?
fading anvil
And yep, mostly affects its damage against maniacs and I think unyielding
woeful ibex
If you inspect the weapon you can see what each stat does
alright and thanks
dusky flare
stopping power is most important for flak targets on the 12
doesn't affect maniac or unyielding
woeful ibex
accatran lasgun or Agripinaa auto gun
MK 7A = More damage but low Rate of Fire
MK 6D = Low Damage but High Rate of Fire
MK II = middle ground
tall torrent
accatran lasgun or Agripinaa auto gun
Recon lasguns are not good rn
fading anvil
I'd say the autogun, the braced, headhunter, and infantry are all pretty good right now
gusty blaze
^ with the recon changes and shock tropper no longer giving free ammo consistantly recons are in a bad place right now in many ways.
woeful ibex
for infantry autogun
the go to for me is the Columnus
real mantle
Recon lasguns are not good rn
I love them
spare mountain
Just had Morrow ask Hallowette for some contraband over the vox lmao. he sounded so uncomfortable, haven't heard that one before
gilded rock
I want to play my veteran so bad but I don't wanna play it unless they attempt to un-cringe the tree again
gusty blaze
theorized internal CD they put on shock trooper is 3 seconds but i sometimes swear is per LMB holds and a internal CD lol
tall torrent
Infantry lasguns alright
Helbore lasguns excellent
Recon lasguns not very good
Infantry autoguns are all good
Braced autoguns are good (except Graia MkIV)
Headhunter autoguns are good (except Agripinaa MkIX)
Laspistol is strong
Revolver is strong
Plasma gun is strong
Bolter is good
Shotguns are all good
Autopistol is alright
tall torrent
I love them
I wish they were good too
But they’re just so sad
Full weakpoint hit, recon dps is like
Infantry Autogun bodyshot dps
Maybe even lower
gusty blaze
probably lower if we being honest.
keen sedge
are these blessings good?
tall torrent
are these blessings good?
Wrath is usable
Savage sweep very good
I’d suggest savage sweep + rampage but wrath is perhaps more consistent in a mixed horde
keen sedge
Wrath is usable
Savage sweep very good
I’d suggest savage sweep + rampage but wr...
well i dont have rampage unlocked for chainsword at all
probably just gonna replace those two perks for maniac and flak
fading anvil
I prefer wrath over sweep tbh, 3 enemys isnt hard but if something chunky starts stopping hits it can drop Sweep
gusty blaze
it was a odd change and nerf. It wasn't like recons were busted in patch 13. Very ammo efficient(before shock trooper change) and they served their roll decently as hoard clear and common elite/specialist removal and steady suppresion.
keen sedge
so are these blessings good enough or nah?
fading anvil
Are you using it for horde clear or single targets?
keen sedge
Are you using it for horde clear or single targets?
mostly horde clear
umbral scaffold
Infantry lasguns alright
Helbore lasguns excellent
Recon lasguns not very good
I...
Revolver is BIG IRON MODE
fading anvil
I'd sawp Sweep out for Rampage, or you can swap Wrath out for Rampage, either or just want to get rampage on there imo
umbral scaffold
fading anvil
Two cleave blessings is redundant
tall torrent
so are these blessings good enough or nah?
They’re ok but rampage is the really big one u want
Keep one, replace the other
crisp bronze
How's this for a Columnus MK V? Looking back I would have switched the Fire Frenzy with Dumdum instead and kept the Terrifying Barrage that was there for the utility. But eh.
keen sedge
I'd sawp Sweep out for Rampage, or you can swap Wrath out for Rampage, either or...
i
dont
have
rampage
GRAHHHH GOD DAMN IT I HAVE TO LEVEL ANOTHER CHAINSWORD
tall torrent
How's this for a Columnus MK V? Looking back I would have switched the Fire Fren...
I’d swap maniac to unyielding, elite or even carapace tbh
crystal dust
is bolter still good
tall torrent
Rest is fine, good roll
tall torrent
is bolter still good
It’s decent but perhaps not top tier meta rn
fading anvil
That roll is still 100% usable w/o Rampage but you deff will feel a difference when you eventually do get Rampage
crystal dust
It’s decent but perhaps not top tier meta rn
i play casually on mal and dam
so im still good haha
gusty blaze
Yeah. you'll have overkill of hoard clear which it doesn't need that much extra help with.
also check you melk inventory for blessings.
junior needle
How's this for a Columnus MK V? Looking back I would have switched the Fire Fren...
Dumdum is bugged to apply the damage at much longer ranges than close range currently, so I would 100% keep it. Something about it using the code for a zealot talent with that gradually decreases the damage bonus as you go further down range.
keen sedge
should i swap out stamina for flak or maniac on my new chainsword?
crisp bronze
I’d swap maniac to unyielding, elite or even carapace tbh
I can understand the swap to Elite but is Unyielding or Carapace that good on Columnus? I should mention this gun is mostly used in my recently made "Kark Gunners/Shooters" build.
tall torrent
I can understand the swap to Elite but is Unyielding or Carapace that good on Co...
Mk5 IAG cranks out very stupid dps and melts big targets surprisingly fast
Unyielding is good extra boss dps
Carapace allows u to kill crushers with something like 1300-1500dps if aimed for headshots
fading anvil
If you're mostly using the chainsword for Horde clear I'd go Flak since that's alot more common in hordes due to Bruisers but nothing wrong with taking Maniac instead to mulch muties with the revved up attack
tall torrent
Carapace allows u to kill crushers with something like 1300-1500dps if aimed for...
Which, for a non-monster-killer gun, is very impressive
crisp bronze
Mk5 IAG cranks out very stupid dps and melts big targets surprisingly fast
I see. Maybe I'll give it a shot!
While I'm here what are the best perks for the Agripinaa Braced Auto?
vestal gate
for a chainsword, is this alright?
ruby fulcrum
While I'm here what are the best perks for the Agripinaa Braced Auto?
Deathspitter/fire frenzy
crisp bronze
for a chainsword, is this alright?
Decent stat spread, unyielding isn't bad if you can get someone to distract the monsters and land the special. I would definitely swap blessings though. Rampage and Savage Sweep for max horde clear or Rampage and Bloodletter for max monster dps.
crisp bronze
for a chainsword, is this alright?
Could keep wrath and go Rampage with Wrath actually. Then swap the Specialist melee damage for something like Flak.
lethal lantern
What blessings/perks for a plasmagun? Any recommended tree builds?
lethal lantern
While I'm here what are the best perks for the Agripinaa Braced Auto?
perks, maniac and flak
lapis ridge
hey everyone, how does this helbore look?
crisp bronze
What blessings/perks for a plasmagun? Any recommended tree builds?
Blaze Away and Gets Hot! for blessings. Perks are either Unarmoured/Flak for Gunners/Shotgunners or Carapace Unyielding for Ogryns/Monsters. Could go with Unyielding/Flak as well. Just depends on what you want to point it at really.
lethal lantern
just picked this up. looking to replace hb3 honestly
fading anvil
I went with Maniac + Flak on mine mostly cause I get big dopamine hits from blasting plasma all over a Mutie's neck and chin
lethal lantern
hey everyone, how does this helbore look?
you want onslaught/surgical as blessings. personally i went unyield/cara to kill big shit on my hb3
lapis ridge
you want onslaught/surgical as blessings. personally i went unyield/cara to kill...
is falter bad?
crisp bronze
I went with Maniac + Flak on mine mostly cause I get big dopamine hits from blas...
Yeah Maniac/Flak is good if you want to use it for Specialists and Elites. Dreg Gunners won't die in one headshot though, and I think Dreg Shotgunners won't die in a single body shot either.
fading anvil
Yeah Maniac/Flak is good if you want to use it for Specialists and Elites. Dreg ...
I think a crit will 1-tap them but yeah point taken.
lethal lantern
is falter bad?
not bad but surgical is better for bigger damage
umbral scaffold
I wonder what even is the point of making blessings so similiar to each other except making one choice so much better than the other.
Sure, I guess it only applies to close range but 45% damage is still better than 6.5% power.
lethal lantern
I wonder what even is the point of making blessings so similiar to each other ex...
those are the best blessings on brauto cuase they stack
junior needle
iirc deathspitter also stacks up to 5 now
fading anvil
That and Brautos other blessings are all not-damage blessings
junior needle
But let me check
crisp bronze
I wonder what even is the point of making blessings so similiar to each other ex...
Deathspitter stacks it just doesn't tell you because Fatshark.
umbral scaffold
Fatshart quality stamp of approval
junior needle
Never trust fatshark tooltips
lapis ridge
not bad but surgical is better for bigger damage
ah ok. thank u
lethal lantern
Yeah Maniac/Flak is good if you want to use it for Specialists and Elites. Dreg ...
plasma does big damage though, so what's the breakpoints like and is it worth it to go unarmored vs unyield, etc?
umbral scaffold
Aren't Dreg Shotgunners flak on body?
Only head is unarmored, no?
Same with normal gunners
You can partial charge to meet some oneshot breakpoints, not as efficient but gets the job done
fading anvil
Dreg gunners are weird, some models have a mask and others dont but I think they all count as flak?
umbral scaffold
Fairly certain all dreg gunners have unarmored head even if the model has a mask
I remember having to put unarmored on my old headhunter before all the fancy buffs to meet oneshot breakpoint on dreg gunners
astral blade
question so ranged units are only meant to stagger the player when their toughness is broken correct?
umbral scaffold
They'll shred you if you don't have toughness or damage reduction
umbral scaffold
One of the most painful things is running out of toughness and some fuckwad stalker unloads in you chunking your HP heavily
crisp bronze
plasma does big damage though, so what's the breakpoints like and is it worth it...
With a good enough roll and Unarmoured/Flak plus Blaze Away and the two 5% ranged damage nodes in the skill tree I believe a Plasma can 1 shot every special and elite with either a bodyshot or headshot except Mutants, Ragers, Maulers, and all the Ogryns. They take either 2 or 3 headshots but because of stagger making them fall over it can be hard to do that.
white minnow
question so ranged units are only meant to stagger the player when their toughne...
or when you're sprinting
crisp bronze
With a good enough roll and Unarmoured/Flak plus Blaze Away and the two 5% range...
This info was correct on patch 14 when we had 1 more ranged damage node and might not work with just 2. Crits might be needed or some more enemies might need a headshot. I haven't tested this patch.
astral blade
or when you're sprinting
well thats stupid because i've being staggered by a stalker while ADS
astral blade
well thats stupid because i've being staggered by a stalker while ADS
still had half toughness as well
delicate moat
i should start recording some of my AM runs for a BS moments compilation
need to figure out right OBS settings
hollow solstice
is this any good
Change the perks and it's good
abstract locust
So what's the final word on the BEST blessings on Power Sword VI. I got a lucky cycler 4, what should be the other? Hearing differing opinions on slaughterer, rampage, and brutal momentum
dusty violet
what melee weapon should i use to deal with hordes + ragers? im using a Big Iron handcannon revolver build
mystic belfry
Brutal momentum
sleek cairn
So what's the final word on the BEST blessings on Power Sword VI. I got a lucky ...
brutal momentum
and brutal momentum
vestal gate
Could keep wrath and go Rampage with Wrath actually. Then swap the Specialist me...
alr, thx
mystic belfry
what melee weapon should i use to deal with hordes + ragers? im using a Big Iron...
Claw sword will do those well
fading anvil
The parry is an addiction
wanton dawn
So what's the final word on the BEST blessings on Power Sword VI. I got a lucky ...
Bm or sunder
abstract locust
Bm or sunder
Why sunder?
junior needle
Yeah, what does sunder actually do compared to BM
delicate moat
mixed hordes
junior needle
I picked it up not too long ago
wanton dawn
Sunder is safe against rager, mauler and bulwark horde
delicate moat
dont get stopped by 1 carapace
dusty violet
Claw sword will do those well
what about antax mk v combat axe
hollow solstice
what melee weapon should i use to deal with hordes + ragers? im using a Big Iron...
I recommend the devils claw any day of the week, it deals with hordes extremely easily and you have a defense mechanism if ragers pop up out of no where in the horde
junior needle
wanton dawn
2s i have a video
mystic belfry
Antax will work fine
dusty violet
gonna try em both in psyk
fading anvil
Devil's claw MK 4(?) I think it is is my prefered one, the one that's got the strike down for the first heavy attack
mystic belfry
The thing is though, with sword mk6, you'll just be using a mix of lights and push attacks to kill the tanky hordes
mystic belfry
Devil's claw MK 4(?) I think it is is my prefered one, the one that's got the st...
yes
wanton dawn
Why sunder?
mystic belfry
That's slower than killing em one at a time
dusty violet
I recommend the devils claw any day of the week, it deals with hordes extremely ...
mk 4?
mystic belfry
Mk four claw, yeah
delicate moat
4 or 7 as per preference
dusty violet
ty
fading anvil
Parry is your 'oh fuck' button for when Khorne himself decides to shit out a rager horde
hollow solstice
The parry shouldnt be as good as it is, you can legit solo a pack of ragers in melee with it lol 💀