veteran-class

[cobalt wedge]

Gimme my Kasrikin helmet though and I will die happy

[umbral scaffold]

If they could make a proper cadian uniform I’d rock that gladly but it shouldn’t be under premium cosmetics

[frank ether]

(it will be)

(it will also look like dogwater)

[cobalt wedge]

It will be for sure

I wouldn't mind honestly if more games at least had SOME way to earn premium currency over time

[umbral scaffold]

I’m content with my current prem cosmetic purchases that if they release the cadian set I’ll be fine

[cobalt wedge]

Like the fact that people not willing to whale can't get dripped out with you kinda sucks

I like accesorizing with the boys

[frank ether]

just get your guard drip

[mystic belfry]

idk some of the default vet stuff looks good

[frank ether]

refuse to reward fatshark greed

[umbral scaffold]

I may have quite a bit of premium cosmetics but hey, cheaper than guard minis

[karmic musk]

Seems some ppl got fooled by the Smoke Nade enjoyers here, spent the whole Carnival finale blind

[cobalt wedge]

Lol, true

[small mauve]

Hello veterans enjoyers! Could you help me finish my tree please? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aa405d7-bfb8-4416-a818-7dc5aa4758d4/whatever-3 I really want to use the Krag grenade as I'm only losing in pug in situations where krags could have clutched (not enough boss damage, too many armored to deal with with a revolver) but now in my tree I'm not taking Redirect fire, and that's definitely a waste. So I should take it and probably remove the 3 points on the screenshot, but then where do I allocate the extra 2?

[cobalt wedge]

Just use Tabletop Simulator for even more savings

Minis are uber expensive

[umbral scaffold]

I was thinking about just getting into kill team but I think that’s where the plastic crack addiction begins

B for beta male

[mystic belfry]

Correct

[karmic musk]

Nose clipping premium quality

[umbral scaffold]

(I used to rock the beta male helmet as well)

[mystic belfry]

Broken nose simulator

[junior needle]

krag as in krak or frag?

[cobalt wedge]

Make the nose BIGGER 👀

ESCAPE THE MASK

[small mauve]

._. nice mix up krak

[mystic belfry]

What weapons do you use

[small mauve]

power sword* 3 but it's pretty mediocre, and a decent revolver

[mystic belfry]

Melee?

[echo kiln]

Hey guys, I've not played darktide in a few months, is there anywhere I can look for veteran builds or recommendations on gearing?

[small mauve]

a mediocre rolled power sword 3, I mixed the names

[mystic belfry]

Ah

[umbral scaffold]

Official darktide gamer’s congregating in #veteran-class

[junior needle]

Yes, here. Be careful with youtube guides, they tend to be of very dubious quality. Pick a weapon and you can find recommendations in the search function pretty easily. Failing that you can ask directly.

If someone suggests something awful, at least here other people will (usually) comment on it.

[mystic belfry]

Gimme a sec to put something together

[autumn perch]

Vet worst class?

[echo kiln]

Thanks @junior needle .

[small mauve]

sure, thank you very much

[umbral scaffold]

Absolutely just get rid of the veteran class entirely

Replace it with a suicide squig instead

[autumn perch]

👍

I make Ogryn then?

[umbral scaffold]

Ogryns make good human shields, for both the team and the enemies

[autumn perch]

👍

[blazing veldt]

veteran lvl 31 prestige feat where you get servitored

[gusty bison]

Drop grenade tinkerer

[mystic belfry]

oh wait you went ammo aura one sec

[gusty bison]

Krak doesnt need it

[quick fossil]

If i want to get that penace with 20 second long F skill, what gun i should use ?

[umbral scaffold]

People are begging for a combat servitor class on the subreddit

[gusty bison]

Oh wait you need boss damage?

Uhh

[umbral scaffold]

If we get anything like that maybe it should be part of an admech class we’re never gonna get

[gusty bison]

You can drop the max 8 stacks keystone node

[small mauve]

if I have a chaos spawn and we're only 1 or 2, I'm not good enough to do it. And even any other boss, it takes so long that a bad spawn of specialists and it's over

[gusty bison]

Right keystone is better for this ngl

[blazing veldt]

you can run cata sword and parry the chaos spawn to death

the parry prevents you from getting thrown over ledges too

[umbral scaffold]

Trappers feel like trapping especially when they see you’re the last one left soloing a boss

[gritty mirage]

im a wierdo, i run very defensively in auric missions it can handle, chainsword and plasma gun

[mystic belfry]

Right keystone would probably serve you better using revolvr. This is better botter damage though, that being Krak and mark

Redirect fire is gross :v

[small mauve]

power sword is fun tho :3 and for now I'm starving in plasteel / golds, so I can't do multiple builds currently

[gritty mirage]

i spent millions trying to find the blessing for power sword, no luck so far lol.

[bitter turtle]

runs in and dies
"guys we have to keep moving forward"
🤔

[mystic belfry]

Power sword 6 is a perfectly good boss killer

Not really my prefered weapon though

[small mauve]

don't say that I'm 1m in, and got fuck all, not even a good one to use

[gritty mirage]

im 7 mill in

[mystic belfry]

The amount of time I spent on zealot getting thrust 4

Was fucking ridiculous

[gritty mirage]

rng giveth rng taketh

[small mauve]

the best I could do ngl I got really lucky on my zealot, so I can't complain

[gritty mirage]

oof

well its a good weapon

[small mauve]

thank you for the tree btw!

[umbral scaffold]

I feel lucky that hadron hasn’t totally fucked my rolls with the power sword

On my gfs account I got her a PS6 with BM and Pc3 and I have a ps3 with BM and PC4

[gritty mirage]

nice

[umbral scaffold]

I think I get good rolls but if I post them on here you guys will embarrass me

[mystic belfry]

np

Why the fuck is this private game only

Also that's a terrible penance

[small mauve]

what are you running on veteran? I may just not use the power sword as without the blessing rank 4 (the 2 extra energized hit thingy) it's way worse and less fun, as rank 3 is so much worse, and I'm not rich enough to really invest into it yet

[gritty mirage]

some of the penances just dont make sense gameplay wise

[umbral scaffold]

Oh yea lemme solo this chaos spawn with my brain burst

[gritty mirage]

i love me chainsword

[umbral scaffold]

I think psykers would be more combat effective slapping their flaccid weiners against a boss than using BB on them

[small mauve]

chainsword would fix boss damage too I think

[honest robin]

brain burst does okay

[mystic belfry]

I enjoy knife, claw, shovel, and sometimes achlys axe for vet

For ranged, lately i've been using mostly las pistol or plasma

[gritty mirage]

i ususally use my chainsword for crowd control, but it also works plenty fine on monstrosities

[mystic belfry]

My favorite boss killers are knife and claw mk4

[blazing veldt]

weapon specialist has some nutty interactions with revolver

I've got weapon specialist, agile engagement, deadshot and surgical so that when I take a quick shot at a special it's a guaranteed crit with +25% damage

[mystic belfry]

I used to use revolver a lot

I don't really like right tree much though, so it's fallen off for me

I generally run middle keystone or no keystone

[gritty mirage]

revolvers nice but for me its a bit ammo hungry and im not the best crack shot lol

[devout atlas]

you could honest to god just say your preferred blitz/power and melee or ranged and have the guys here whip smth up

[umbral scaffold]

The plus 25% ammo really helps me with the revolver

[mystic belfry]

Not needed at all

Don't even need ammo aura usually

[wanton dawn]

Also you need to go left tree

[devout atlas]

ammo aura is huge on revy actually

[blazing veldt]

weapon specialist means you practically never have to reload since every melee kill loads 1 round into the cylinder

[mystic belfry]

Going left tree with a revolver is kinda silly

[devout atlas]

you basically refund ammo on elite kills

extra ammo isn't necessary as it doesn't increase ammo gained on scav

with good aim you won't even need to pick up ammo with rev on scavenger

[umbral scaffold]

I have about 5 different loadouts with different talent trees depending on what I use for said class

My middle one tends to be the heavy weapons (except for plasma) and the revolver

[mystic belfry]

Columnus is an example of a gun that likes extra ammo

[devout atlas]

it's good to have builds with different auras so you don't double up imho

[mystic belfry]

Because with left tree it mows down mixed hordes

[wanton dawn]

I have 5 differents loadout for the same setup with different aura and grenade

[viscid marlin]

Columnus eats my ammo like the world is ending

well.. it's 40k so fair enough but still

[umbral scaffold]

I just started using the columnus but it’s growing on me

[wanton dawn]

Also ps with pc/sunder is a bad drug

[devout atlas]

I prefer columnus on gunsyke because assail conserves your ammo more than scavenger and gaze is more dps than most vetlumnus builds

[mystic belfry]

Here's my setup for melee bleed knife

[umbral scaffold]

Some of my guns are collecting dust meanwhile my revolver is always handy

[mystic belfry]

Secondary is a las pistol

[viscid marlin]

i wish i had the hands for knife

but alas

my fingers do not do the clicky clicky for more then 2 matches

[wanton dawn]

I have a mod

[devout atlas]

agripinaa on vet is god tier tho

[mystic belfry]

Skill issue tbh

[hollow hinge]

Galvanic rifles?

[viscid marlin]

more like chainsaw over my hand issue

[umbral scaffold]

My favorite is the knife punch attack with bleed

[mystic belfry]

Columnus specifically

[umbral scaffold]

I’ve punched many heretics to death with the punch

[mystic belfry]

punch -> light -> heavy

Punch to proc bleed to trigger weakspot blessing

[umbral scaffold]

More like punch punch punch dead

[mystic belfry]

And backstab rending

[naive hatch]

Need to teach your big guy to stand to one side so you have clear line of sight

[ruby hull]

i just made a very silly build, weapon specialist + las weapons use no ammo on crits + laspistol = unlimted fun

[viscid marlin]

the mk1 with deadshot is such a lazer beam of accuracy i can get like all headshots even going full auto at mid range, it's so good

[naive hatch]

Does laspistol have an "immune to ranged attacks" blessing?

[mystic belfry]

... How do you manage to run dry on a las pistol?

[viscid marlin]

ghost

[mystic belfry]

ye

[ruby hull]

it sure do

[devout atlas]

agri iag just goes too hard on vet once you get rlly good, middle path aura can give u 1shs against shooters with the small damage boosts

[mystic belfry]

Run dumdum and ghost

[ruby hull]

i use dum dum and infernus

[mystic belfry]

Infernus is good too

[blazing veldt]

stripped down + duck and dive makes you dodge all ranged attacks infinitely if you sprint

[ruby hull]

just like i do on psyker

[viscid marlin]

@naive hatch

[ruby hull]

though psyker has ranged immunity on crits

[cobalt wedge]

My baby

[mystic belfry]

Run dumdum as your #1 blessing

[devout atlas]

I run dumdum and raking imho infernus is mid on it because you'll kill things before it rakes any effects

[hollow hinge]

I use that same gun

[ruby hull]

you would thin kthat

[hollow hinge]

Love that weapon. so much fun

[devout atlas]

raking makes slug bosses a joke

[mystic belfry]

Boss damage, maybe crushers in a pinch

[cobalt wedge]

Yes 😄

[mystic belfry]

But I'd recommend ghost and dumdum for las pistol

[ruby hull]

anyways ive been doing a stealth build with that and a rending backstabs knife

[bright coyote]

Charismatic is only aura radius so unless ur aware and just wanna spread ammo, the +50% aura isnt helping you spread toughness regen

[viscid marlin]

only thing its really good for is bosses with infernus, but it does do pretty well so if you are bringing it for that specific purpose infernus is alright i think

[naive hatch]

Thanks fellas. What would you recommend running as the melee companion to a laspistol?

[gritty mirage]

im spreading ammo :v

[mystic belfry]

What melee weapons do you like, for what to choose from?

[naive hatch]

so far I've really only tried axes and the combat knife.

[bright coyote]

i shouldnt say "just", giving more ammo is great

[viscid marlin]

that reaaally depends. pretty much all of them are good, what do you feel like you need?

[mystic belfry]

Knife or achlys is a good pairing

[naive hatch]

Not a fan of the stabby

[ruby hull]

i like kunoife, dueling saber on psyker

[blazing veldt]

I'll keep plugging claw sword

[mystic belfry]

Claw sword 4 is dope

[viscid marlin]

psword is pretty much universally good vs everything, if you have problems with rager packs parry sword is a must have, shovel can stunlock entire rooms, really just what you want

[cobalt wedge]

Best sniping gun in people's opinions

[mystic belfry]

Las pistol can handy flak and maniacs pretty well

[naive hatch]

heh, shovel go BONK

[cobalt wedge]

For them low recoil reliable long range headshots

[deep fable]

every so often im reminded vet melee weapons other than power sword exist

[mystic belfry]

So you mostly want horde and anti-armor

[viscid marlin]

power sword then

good hord, good anti armor

[mystic belfry]

Dagger, axe, power sword

There's several

[viscid marlin]

easy peasy

[blazing veldt]

shovel

[mystic belfry]

Not shovel tbh

[hollow hinge]

shovel and combat knife

[ruby hull]

laspistol has super high flak modifier, i usally take unyielding and crit chance to melt bosses even faster

[mystic belfry]

Shovel pairs better with something like Plasma or revolver

[viscid marlin]

fair

[hollow hinge]

shovel pairs best with Helbore

[viscid marlin]

i like shovel on my helbore cause i need something a bit more defensive, either that or devil claw

[mystic belfry]

I hate the feel of helbore

[bright coyote]

is it possible to suck with the shovel, i suck w the shovel

[hollow hinge]

I love it

[viscid marlin]

i hate the stupid ready animation

but i love shooting it

[mystic belfry]

My current support build is shovel + plasma though

[hollow hinge]

even the melee is a good special attack

the bayonet has saved my life many times

[blazing veldt]

I honestly cannot use any gun with an equip animation more than 0.1sec

[naive hatch]

The sights are what kill me.

[mystic belfry]

Sorry chief, but helbore bayonet is not a good melee

It's a melee, but not at all a good one

[naive hatch]

Can't wait to have this thru steam instead of Xbox.

[bright coyote]

fr

[devout atlas]

the majority of your dps comes from crit headshots but tbh that's easier said than done for most. I just prefer raking as when it works it REALLY works

[hollow hinge]

yeah thats the only problem I have with the Helbore. The ironsights

[devout atlas]

realistically most ppl should run ghost

[mystic belfry]

Ghost is not for bosses or anything

[hollow hinge]

thats why I want weapon modification

[mystic belfry]

it's for the fucking one billion god damn gunners and shooters every fucking match

:)

[devout atlas]

in theory with the BM glitch and a good enough flick you can do insane horde-clear with it but you'll get RSI

[naive hatch]

So I'm hearing "try the Mk V combat axe, Power Sword (assuming 6), claw sword(s).

[hollow hinge]

put a close range scope on the helbore, and i'd fall in love

[ruby hull]

as fun as laspistol is on vet its still much better on psyker

[viscid marlin]

ghost does come in clutch with all of these damn shotgunners spawning in my face all the dam time though that's for sure..

[echo kiln]

omg this new talent tree is overwhelming a bit

[devout atlas]

yes that's what I mean

[mystic belfry]

claw 4

[hollow hinge]

and combat blade

[blazing veldt]

oh and revolver also has the bulwark spin tech

[naive hatch]

Put an acog on it XD

[mystic belfry]

I usually use my melee for bosses anyways

[devout atlas]

infernus or raking isn't worth over ghost for most

[hollow hinge]

exactly lmao

[viscid marlin]

either power sword is good, but i prefer the 6 for the two shot crusher potential myself

[naive hatch]

For me it's always Ragers/Crushers in PACKS.

[devout atlas]

with good aim laspis is insane dps

[mystic belfry]

For anyone, really

[quick fossil]

Is this build cursed or not for those big ass plasma gun ?

[devout atlas]

nah I'm a raking user. infiltrate chads rise up

[bright coyote]

i like the ps6 cuz it fucks up bosses

[mystic belfry]

Infiltrate is the skill issue build tbh

[hollow hinge]

INFILTRATE BROTHER!

[devout atlas]

who needs ghost when ur never shot anyway

[mystic belfry]

Left tree is not great with plasma

[viscid marlin]

oh god why

[mystic belfry]

it's usable, but it's not worth it

[hollow hinge]

i got a melee combat blade infiltrate build, it works so so well and its so so much fun

[quick fossil]

I have no clue what i am doing tbh

[viscid marlin]

do not, use left tree with plasma gun

[hollow hinge]

and i specifically built it to be a damage over time build too

[mystic belfry]

Do you want my plasma build?

[quick fossil]

I am just grabbing stuffs that i thought would make sense ?

Eh sure

[bright coyote]

does marksmans focus even do anything to the plasma?

[viscid marlin]

if you are going to use any keystone, the left one does not need to be it

for plasma

[echo kiln]

whats suppression?

[devout atlas]

nah i don't use it like that. safe revives, getting that 90% threat reduction to rake backs, with enough kills per second that 90% threat has 100% uptime

[hollow hinge]

Honestly I'd suggest constantly making your own build over time

[devout atlas]

dw

[mystic belfry]

Gimme a moment

[hollow hinge]

you'll find the best build for you.

[mystic belfry]

Yeah, skill issue build, I know

[devout atlas]

not wrong haha

[hollow hinge]

I never enjoy playing any game with other people's builds, it feels unnatural and uncreative

[naive hatch]

I can't remember who recommended the switch from Precision Strikes to Longshot, but thank you, my damage is much more consistent now.

[viscid marlin]

the great thing about the plasma is that it is just good period, so you can go into some mid tree and melee tree stuff and not feel gimped

[devout atlas]

I just like it as I can ignore hordes letting the ogryn do his work while I decimate every single markable enemy

[quick fossil]

Alright, i thought i need left side to pew pew hard

[devout atlas]

then safe revive if needbe

[viscid marlin]

I usually make my own builds too, but as a jumping point its nice to have a build that you already know works sometimes to start off with

[hollow hinge]

Yeah, It's good to ask advice to help make your own

[mystic belfry]

You can do the same without stealth, is the thing

[devout atlas]

man exec stance is so ass

[languid escarp]

It interrupts enemy briefly while they have the duck animation

[mystic belfry]

I back line with shout vet and a knife all the time

[devout atlas]

you can, i just like infiltrate because funny raking

[viscid marlin]

whoah whoah now

[echo kiln]

Thanks

[unreal bone]

Based UN Veteran

[hollow hinge]

Infiltrate is also good when theres a 100 gunners pinning your teammates

[blazing veldt]

slightly cursed but I've been running this with cata and surgical revolver

[mystic belfry]

I've also run backstab rending knife with a vet in the past

[devout atlas]

mainly needs it's ability modifiers compressed

[mystic belfry]

Less so lately, I like bleed for horde clear more

[hollow hinge]

and also if u use smoke grenades, you have space to throw smoke to have a nice charge

[viscid marlin]

Oh you mean the node design.. complete agree the amount of nodes is ass.

[devout atlas]

exec stance works weirdly good with agri shotgun

[languid escarp]

You apply suppression by shooting near enemy or use abilities that have suppression to it (like Vet right active)

[viscid marlin]

shotgun and exe? ..huh

[devout atlas]

I do think it's underpowered but that's mainly because very few weapons benefit well with it

[languid escarp]

Agri shotgun is the slug one

[hollow hinge]

Do you think vets will get some sort of arc rifle?

[echo kiln]

Ain't nothin like just having a go I think

[viscid marlin]

oh the slug

[hollow hinge]

or technology based guns?

[viscid marlin]

that makes sense

[devout atlas]

mhm. that 20% damage bonus is enough to very reliable one tap WITHOUT the slug many specials

[mystic belfry]

This is how I run plasma

[blazing veldt]

I just want more pistols

[viscid marlin]

honestly if you havent already, las pistol with exe stance absolutely slaughters everything, not that the las pistol needs it

[hollow hinge]

more pistols would be nice

but I want mechanicus class

[mystic belfry]

This also works

[viscid marlin]

bolt pistol hyyyyype

[gusty bison]

I s2g

Just got TKed AGAIN

[viscid marlin]

that zig zag tree hurts

[hollow hinge]

hell yeah i want a bolt pistol SO bad

[devout atlas]

yes that's the issue, it doesn't need it so shout or infil are better on it even for boss killing as both give you better opportunities to reach boss weakpoints with infil or stun them with voice

[gusty bison]

The best part? The poxburster in question was marked for like 3 fucking seconds and the guy waits until im about to push it to shoot

Wtf

[mystic belfry]

Also, a big thing with the plasma, if you don't know. It can pen through an entire horde, and it can wall bang

[viscid marlin]

i prefer shout myself but i also use deadshot with 2 stam curios and duck n dive, and with that bonus 25% crit chance it absolutely obliterates everything

[mystic belfry]

That's why I run it on support, I can boop with it well

[cobalt wedge]

How did you get the nice neat build all on one picture?

[viscid marlin]

i just had that in my match too, almost cost us the game

[mystic belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[devout atlas]

yup that's the way, I run triple stam because with infil my ass is not going down lmao

[mystic belfry]

Then a screenshot

[cobalt wedge]

Ah

[viscid marlin]

fair. i just like shout over the longer cd, and i end up covering people making.. extremely questionably stupid decisions pretty often so it makes sense for me to have it on

[blazing veldt]

shout is technically extra stamina

[mystic belfry]

I run 1 stam with 1 stam regen on it

[hollow hinge]

i hate it when people shoot poxbursters when someone is next to them,

[devout atlas]

laspis is the only build I run ps6 on

[mystic belfry]

Then toughness toughness

[hollow hinge]

I mean, do they even think?

[mystic belfry]

mfw

[devout atlas]

ps6 shitty dodge can be bypassed by just using laspis for dodging

if its dumb and it works its not dumb

[hollow hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/910587193490276382/1170639668379910164/trustinganyone.gif?ex=6559c626&is=65475126&hm=5ae60b6aa51016d43c0766a6a785004cdaf0a0c3e428490765f31a57dfb60d67&

[viscid marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/a12-guns-miss-gif-10558976

Dude shooting box bursters i'm about to shove like

[cobalt wedge]

My Infiltrator (I hate the talent rework)

[viscid marlin]

^

[quick fossil]

I see ppl push poxbursters, when it is safe to push those suicide boys ?

[mystic belfry]

That's a funny looking infil

[devout atlas]

bro has sprint speed

[gusty bison]

Like i get it if its an accidental stray bullet or a bad reflex. But this one was marked for a long ass time

[viscid marlin]

always

[quick fossil]

Thanks. I will copy this

[viscid marlin]

literally always

[devout atlas]

and no 90% threat reduction

[mystic belfry]

Enjoy :)

[stable wind]

They make a noise is pretty much how I tell

[quick fossil]

Eh you don't use the tactical reload to cool down fast ?

[cobalt wedge]

Why would I need that? I wanna be a threat (Lol replied to wrong person)

[viscid marlin]

pushing them is the safest first, shooting them is safe only if they are far enough away, and even then its easy to just let them run up and give them a little boop

[hollow hinge]

its best to push when in open space, away from people

[stable wind]

They beep a bit faster , and they usually in the air

[midnight mortar]

As they begin to leap towards you/the beeping intensifies.

[gusty bison]

The only time where it might fuck you is when there are two very slightly one after the other and the explosion from the first one pushes the second into you

[cobalt wedge]

It was better before with dips into Ogryn damage and stuff, O

I'm still testing

[viscid marlin]

that is true, but it doesnt happen too often

[gusty bison]

Ye

Its super rare

Much rarer than ALLIES SHOOTING POXBURSTRRS IN YOUR FACR

Seriously

[blazing veldt]

actually it's best to keep space between yourself and the poxburster and then when it gets close enough hit infil and knife tech out of the way so that it blows up on your team instead of you

[gusty bison]

1 in 3 games is way too much for that shit

[delicate moat]

finally won a AM with good pub teammates

[cobalt wedge]

Honestly, I run damage resistance against bombers on one of my curios specifically for teammates screwing me

[delicate moat]

this is too real

[cobalt wedge]

Or those unfortunate moments you're trapped right next to where the poxburster spawns

[gusty bison]

This doesnt protect against poxbursters btw

[viscid marlin]

i run a premade or just with bots so i dont have to deal with it anymore 😄

cause yeah

[gusty bison]

Bomber only protects vs scab bomber kicks

[viscid marlin]

screw that

[cobalt wedge]

.... D:

Different talent?

[gusty bison]

So far in patch 15, my majority of downs have been a dodge misinput or allies screwing me over

Or just bad luck

[viscid marlin]

Shit bro you know Exhilarating takedown is bugged to make you take more damage right?

[gusty bison]

Like an ally dragging a crusher overhead into me

[delicate moat]

allies screwing u is way too often

[delicate moat]

shit i had this happen multiple times

[gusty bison]

Tbf i dont blame them for this one. Its really hard to keep track

Thats jusg bad luck

[viscid marlin]

and it is for this reason, that i have learned to parry every single fucking thing in the game except for one sole enemy, the chaos spawn, and i only cant do that one ebcause it attacks so fast

[blazing veldt]

specifically crusher packs of like 8

[cobalt wedge]

Yo wtf?

That's crazy

[delicate moat]

their turn rate is insane and sometimes just sticks to the teammate moving

[gusty bison]

Yep

[viscid marlin]

yeah its bugged. you take 30% more toughness damage

[cobalt wedge]

.... 😮

[gusty bison]

Once again. Cant blame them for that one

[viscid marlin]

next patch is """supposed""" to fix it

[delicate moat]

yeah

[gusty bison]

Can blame them for poxbursters

[delicate moat]

but shooting bursters is my biggest gripe

yep

[mystic belfry]

If I was going to run stealth

[gusty bison]

Also can blame them for shooting the horde off of you while ur getting shredded by gunners

[delicate moat]

i've been boom boom'd twice in a short 10 seconds by teammates

[viscid marlin]

what is it with people taking that long stealth cooldown and not using the cooldown reduction node?

[gusty bison]

Ngl most annoying thing as right tree vet has been allies shooting groaners im in melee with

Dude im trying to get stacks to get toughness back

[outer laurel]

what exactly does the wrath blessing even do? it says +40% cleave but does that mean damage or just being able to cleave more things? oops meant to put this in zealot

[delicate moat]

i can tell how well a team will do in AM before we even reach the first swarm

[mystic belfry]

You can do it, but you have to make a trade for it

[viscid marlin]

i mean ill trade anything for cooldown

[delicate moat]

like if they wander off to kill the poxwalker in the furthest corner who's not even aggro'd, i'm already scared

[blazing veldt]

shieldless ogryn, assail gaze psyker, loner shroud zealot and executioner recon vet

[gusty bison]

Every enemy has a stat called hit mass.

A weapon can cleave up to a certain hitmass before it stops

[viscid marlin]

the best is when you just enter the map and someone imediately runs off a ledge and you just sit there and think to yourself "well... fuck."

[gusty bison]

This is why a catachan bladr can hit multiple zombies but can only hit one rager

[delicate moat]

tbf, that is usually just funny

[bitter turtle]

the ledge thing happens sometimes

lol

[gusty bison]

Esp on the new map

[delicate moat]

nothing consequential it's fine

[blazing veldt]

the parry can pass through multiple ragers though

[mystic belfry]

You can

[gusty bison]

First breaching point if ur on the bridge and you see the charge your brain auto dodges to the side

But that just drops u off the edge lmao

[delicate moat]

oh yeah that happens so often

[viscid marlin]

you just going right for that 5% move speed node or did you need the other stuff?

[mystic belfry]

Going for the 10% speed to stack with knife mobility

[viscid marlin]

makes sense

[delicate moat]

the zoomies

[viscid marlin]

if you were going to use anothe melee would you change the tree?

[mystic belfry]

I couldn't see taking anything else on infilitrate tbh

[viscid marlin]

rip

[mystic belfry]

What weapon?

[viscid marlin]

i just like the devil claw

[bitter turtle]

there's a second movespeed node?

oh wait

you prob mean the aura

lmoa

[viscid marlin]

i practiced so many hours of spawning things into the grinder and learning to parry them all, i want to put my skills to the test now

[bitter turtle]

nah

i know about that one

[mystic belfry]

That and the aura yeah

[bitter turtle]

i thought you meant a second non-aura movespeed node

[mystic belfry]

Hmm, give me a moment to think on devil claw.

[delicate moat]

my favorite is when ragers in a pack stagger their attack

[blazing veldt]

that's why I run shout so I can knock them all down and when they get back up they sync

[viscid marlin]

if you hold block it doesnt usually hit you, the block reenables right after the parry ends so you almost never get hit, and if you do a dodge you are pretty much always good to go

[mystic belfry]

🤔 Claw sword is kinda lacking on single-target dps blessings honestly, I guess just ran that as normal with cleave stuff

[viscid marlin]

well

i had.. whats it

[blazing veldt]

shred works find for single target

[viscid marlin]

basically that

[mystic belfry]

Looking at the tree again, I think that should work well enough swapping over to claw sword

[viscid marlin]

i think the single target is really just the parry part on it

that finesse bonus it gets is insanely high

[mystic belfry]

Heavy 1 heavy 1 heavy 1 heavy 1

Use counter when it's an option, but it'll be mixed in with heavy 1

[blazing veldt]

funny enough the parry can still cleave

[viscid marlin]

isnt it heavy and two 1's?

[mystic belfry]

That's mixed hordes

[viscid marlin]

ah right

[viscid marlin]

it definitely cleaves

[mystic belfry]

You're infilitrate, focus on single target damage and taking out vips

Gunners first, very specifically always kill gunners first

[viscid marlin]

so many dam gunners now..

[mystic belfry]

The big issue teamwork wise is that Infiltrate puts more focus on your 3 remaining teammates

So you're #1 goal is to reduce incoming chip damage

Gunners, shooters, and snipers are priority, in that order

[delicate moat]

just everyone take infiltrate/stealth ez clap

[junior needle]

Sounds like a skill issue (for them)

[blazing veldt]

why doesn't ogryn get a stealth ability

[mystic belfry]

Just stand very still

[delicate moat]

just copy from crushers

[viscid marlin]

oh believe me i know, i usually play with two stealth zealots and i know the exact moment they stealth because everything in the map aggro dumps on me

[delicate moat]

crushers have stealth ability

[mystic belfry]

Well, now I know where your love for claw came from

[viscid marlin]

yep.. 😂

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-shyboos-smile-gif-24233810

[frank ether]

you instead get a shield that lowers the IQ of any gunner that shoots at it

[delicate moat]

i find the trapper sounds bugging out really funny when there's multiple trappers

it would keep trying to play a voiceline but it keeps resetting

[mystic belfry]

This is probably the claw setup I'd go for in the above build

Same laspistol and curios

[viscid marlin]

skull crusher.. hmm

[delicate moat]

hmm carapace over maniac?

[delicate moat]

so good, can confirm, i've been converted

[viscid marlin]

ive never used skull crusher so i dont know how the stack math is applied

[mystic belfry]

Specifically for the above infiltrate build

[viscid marlin]

makes sense

the heavy for that one is an overhead so it would be ideal

[mystic belfry]

Just laspistol maniacs

[sleek cairn]

how are u guys getting enough laspistol ammo

[viscid marlin]

so how does skullcrusher work exactly? is it like brittle 5%?

[delicate moat]

not shooting trash, taking ammo aura

[mystic belfry]

Don't miss, don't shoot as trash

[sleek cairn]

ahh survivalist i see

[mystic belfry]

If they have any state of stagger, apply a debuff that makes them take mor damage

[sleek cairn]

wait survivalist on infil is like

left, then right

[delicate moat]

if u do mostly melee, then u won't run out of laspistol thag quickly

[mystic belfry]

Movespeed infilitrate

If you're going to take infilitrate, don't half ass it, go all in

[viscid marlin]

yeah

[delicate moat]

infiltrate when there's a rager pack so all of them goes to ur teammates

[mystic belfry]

That las pistol will demolish shields too btw

I suppose i should say bulwurks, to be clear

[blazing veldt]

I don't even run infiltrate and all the ragers ignore me for my teammates

[delicate moat]

says the rager

[mystic belfry]

Ragers always are on my ass

or at last I assume so :v

Did you know if you time knife just right, you can dodge back, sprint forward with a heavy, headshot, and then dodge backwards again before they can hit trade you?

Timing is a bit tight but it works fine

[blazing veldt]

I hope they'll give us the dreg rager's pizza cutter as a weapon

[mystic belfry]

Heretic spotted

[blazing veldt]

I'm a radical

[mystic belfry]

I'm an amino acid

[delicate moat]

i need plasteel

i want to do AMs, but I need plasteel

[mystic belfry]

We always need plasteel

[delicate moat]

but I also need dockets

[gloomy kestrel]

Aaaay, after almost a year hadron gave me my first power cycler today. https://i.gyazo.com/d4287a5427a716d46a35dce85bad15df.png

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-gif-1314135106863776295

[devout atlas]

what weapon would fit into this? revy?

[astral blade]

dont use twin blast its terrible

[sharp ember]

when in doubt, infantry autogun

but twin blast is so funny when it activates

[lone yoke]

twin blast is awesome

[sharp ember]

the secret 4th keystone: every grenade node

[sleek cairn]

that's one gnarly tree, i like your confidence

[gusty bison]

Helbore

[sleek cairn]

the confidence to skip shout but take every node before it

i dont have the balls grawr

[bitter turtle]

i bet more ppl would like infiltrate if the grenade above it wasn't smoke

look at that fucking swerve to the left after surv to get infiltrate lmao

[gusty bison]

I do you one better

[frank ether]

or if smoke had a use

[lone yoke]

smoke is great on a new map if you don't have a psyker dome

[fossil schooner]

its flat now?

[bitter turtle]

bet people complained about clipping

into your gun

when you hold it on the screen

[fossil schooner]

it was just squished

[frank ether]

it was bad and now its worse lmao

[fossil schooner]

it was huge, but this solution is funny tbh

[zealous wyvern]

it is so much worse

and they DID NOT EVEN bother to make it the right size

while at it, they could have made it a small bag. it is not supposed to be this wide and tall

which would also have solved some clipping issues

[frank ledge]

All the suckers having their cosmetics downgraded

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

Those Psykers when Spamming their Psychic powers

Dunno if anyone sees psykers going boom lately

[frank ledge]

A lot thanks to clueless players

[gloomy kestrel]

I have been seeing some psykers booming lately

[patent slate]

emperor just gifted me a jewl of a blessing

[gloomy kestrel]

Which I normally don't.

[placid portal]

Guess I'm lucky enough to meet proper Sanctioned Psykers

[placid portal]

Hm, what you think about it

[patent slate]

btw is skullcrusher even good on the devil claw swords

[placid portal]

nah

[patent slate]

eh

still got a tier 4

[placid portal]

iirc it's like 80% now isn't it?

10% per stack with 8 stacks

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[patent slate]

whats good on devil claw melee weapons

is trauma good

[placid portal]

Rampage is a good start imo

[patent slate]

hm

ok

is rampage and savage sweep a good combo

[delicate moat]

ive been converted to rampage/skullcrusher

not bad at all

[placid portal]

Tbf rampage + any dmg boost is nice

[patent slate]

whats considered a staggered enemy

like when they are on the ground?

or can u stagger an enemy by pushing them

[gloomy kestrel]

i think enemies can be staggered even if they don't show an animation

[placid portal]

Stagger is based on impact from your weapon and every enemy has a different stagger threshold

[gloomy kestrel]

based on the stagger value of something that hit them

[delicate moat]

use debuff indicator mod to check

[devout atlas]

respectfully idgaf

[gloomy kestrel]

If I had a point I'd take twinned blast just for funsies when it did proc, but the current vet tree doesn't really allow for much branching out

[devout atlas]

I know you're right but I don't want you to be

[gentle grove]

the important part of my vet build "Bombs? you want them their yours my friend"

[devout atlas]

I could go fireteam and run a helbore if I was a PUSSY

[gentle grove]

funny thing infiltrate dosent stop if you nade

[bitter turtle]

but do you have enough rubies 🤔

[quick fossil]

Hmm soo what do i do with smoke grenades ?

[devout atlas]

also it's not a swerve for me because it's a funny grenade build

[lone yoke]

How badly do I need this part with hellbore or is it skippable?

[devout atlas]

commit warcrimes on your teammates

[gentle grove]

thats the question for the heretics

[gloomy kestrel]

throw em

[quick fossil]

I mean yea ... but when / where i should be using them ?

[devout atlas]

infinite ammo funny

[dapper vessel]

you dont need suppression immunity with helbore

[gloomy kestrel]

they're very situational, best if you have to camp out for a bit and are taking alot of fire imo

[lone yoke]

why not?

[dapper vessel]

the gun barely sways around even under suppression

no ammo spent on crit is basically infinite ammo if you have Surgical on a Helbore

[lone yoke]

oh I see

[devout atlas]

helbore is possible but the downside is you're forced to use a helbore

[lone yoke]

and that elit damage - is it needed to hit any breakpoints on elites?

15% seems like a lot

[hollow turtle]

You know, when I play anything but veteran, it becomes apparent how much I'm the one who keeps watching the back because no one else fricking does it.

[devout atlas]

psyker voidstrike can play similarly if u want reflavored vet

magical plasma gun

[hollow turtle]

Unfortunately I'm trying to play my stubber ogryn so my eyes are facing forward.

[devout atlas]

ah that's fun, I like mk3 club with haymaker, rock, achylys and fire bullets gunlug

[hollow turtle]

I'm supposed to be laying into horde. FFS, veterans with the columnus, watch the goddamn rear.

Kill the maniacs damn it

[wanton dawn]

IMO what is worse than ppl not watching the rear are ppl complaining about no one watching the rear

Cuz this is a roundabout way to complain about your team

[hollow turtle]

Just said, it only happens when I'm not the veteran doing it myself. My gun's not accurate enough to shoot that far as an ogryn.

[wanton dawn]

The only expectation I have from my team is to shot the fking dog

[hollow turtle]

^Especially that.

A stubber's spread is not going to kill that fast approaching dog.

[bitter turtle]

folded 1000x times to cut through carapace armor in a single vertical stroke

https://i.gyazo.com/63fa6b8089bbf60cf5c9c885ad844312.jpg

now that is a real power sword

also i always just watch the rear if nobody doing it

no matter what class

tbh its hard to trust other ppl to do it in ht efirst place

its easy to tunnel

[wanton dawn]

Do you even study the blade ?

[hollow hinge]

they better not add katanas in the game

[hollow turtle]

I do not want to play cookie cutter kickback ogryn just to watch the rear.

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/6a0a92c87cde1e680d645b0c4978b20e.jpg

consider the blade studied

[gusty bison]

Mostly skippable.

Mk 2 might need +15% elite if you wanna hit the gunner 1 shot BP at any distance but its not needed

[hollow turtle]

And spraying 2 dozen shots in one direction to maybe kill the approaching maniac is just an outright waste.

[bitter turtle]

well

[gusty bison]

It gets you the top frag award

[bitter turtle]

as others might say

[gusty bison]

:P

[bitter turtle]

then die

[hollow turtle]

Worst yet, the randomly spawning crusher

or bulwark

[hollow hinge]

I don't like anime

[bitter turtle]

its like a long time ago when i played flamer zeealot and got annoyed at ppl not shooting snipers

i picked up a different gun and shot the snipers myself

cant trust anyone to do it but yourself

[hollow turtle]

I think that's half the reason most zealots are using revolvers

[gusty bison]

The amount of revolver bullets Ive seen go into poxwalkers is saddening

:c

[hollow hinge]

nah i got a close range vet

[hollow turtle]

Lol this. This is upsetting to watch.

I mean. I appreciate the extra volume of fire, but please. Save it for when you see the maulers come out.

[gusty bison]

I do not appreciate the revolver bullets when its aimed at poxwalkers next to me xD

Makes it hard for me to get toughness back up/get mah agile engagement stax

[hollow turtle]

Had an issue earlier where my special was not activating. Anyone else had that happen mid combat?

[lone yoke]

I was able to 1 shot a reaper with my helbore mk3

seems like I can't do it as of latest nerf

sadge

[languid escarp]

Save bullets and you can stagger maulers once, get yourself a Rumbler Ogryn and you can stagger maulers for a lifetime

[astral blade]

fair enough my guy i respect opinion

[sleek cairn]

u mean comforting

[sharp ember]

for revolver bash? honestly i just go straight to melee since it swaps so fast

[hollow turtle]

Not the special attack, but the ability.

My infil was just not activating for some reason when I needed it to.

[gleaming turtle]

How to into good Bolter setup?

[gusty bison]

Surgical, Pinning Fire

Deadshot

[gleaming turtle]

Perks?

[gusty bison]

Flak Maniac I think

[astral blade]

being playing abit to much cod 3 MWZ recently lol so first mission back in took some getting use too

[gusty bison]

Helps reach the 1 tap flamer and gunner bodyshot thresholds

[gleaming turtle]

What about stat spread?

[languid escarp]

holy shit first low intensity damnation since patch dropped

[hollow turtle]

Okay. I think I know what I miss most about the specials from VT2 that that most people really want:
The specials back in VT2 would make constant noise up until you kill them. Like the rattling of the skulls on the packmaster as he ran; the hissing of the gutter runner when he snuck around; the chanting of the blightstormer or lifeleech as he wandered the area; the heavy weapon shifting of a ratling gunner, etc.

Would probably fix that 'audio' complaint everyone has.

[royal monolith]

true

[hollow turtle]

I think the only one with that consistent noise while they live is the poxhound

[frank ledge]

Even elites made sounds, stormvermin had chainmail moving about and cw had his booming voice to say who he is targeting

The mutant too

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[hollow turtle]

Lol

[frank ledge]

Uh?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[astral blade]

question did fat shark buff the columnus infantry autogun recently?

[hollow turtle]

yes

Was it all the IAG?

[crude wind]

yeah all IAGs got buffed

Columnus got reworked to be the close range one and it shreddddds

[hollow turtle]

Even the globadier had that heavy gas mask breathing

[patent slate]

holy shit look what the emperor gave me

[astral blade]

no i mean like with the recent hot fix

[crude wind]

ouch

[hollow turtle]

A 30% damage

[crude wind]

2 good blessings to rip

[patent slate]

headhunter is a w

but

[crude wind]

you want both of those

[patent slate]

i mean

[crude wind]

Dumdum would be my pick there

[patent slate]

i use recon lasgun

alot

so

its a W for me

i use headhunter with infernus

[astral blade]

my guy that is a huge RIP

[patent slate]

i mean

i use recon

alot

and i want headhunter

so

W

[hollow turtle]

You know what he gave me?

[astral blade]

fair but that damage those

the fuck 0 stability? how is that possible

[hollow turtle]

Lol I don't know. I kept it because it was such a meme.

[sleek cairn]

wuts it like to fire it

[unreal bone]

Time to take my chain axe to hadron

if she gives me a good roll

[sleek cairn]

do u break ur back immediately

[astral blade]

how bads the recoil

[unreal bone]

I'll become a chainaxe user if Hadron blesses me.

[hollow turtle]

It fires just fine, but it has like this slightest camera jerk as the gun recovers

[odd sparrow]

i also feel like enemies sometimes spawn way too close in darktide. Like the audio call out barely matters when the trapper spawned 5meters away from me.

or the fucking regular enemies spawning behind your back

[vague hull]

bro's gun jumps out of his hands after every shot

[unreal bone]

Eh

[astral blade]

why is this so damn funny

[unreal bone]

This good or bad?

Ik the blessings are def not ideal

[astral blade]

average?

[unreal bone]

I mean the bars are huge, but the blessings are bleh

[astral blade]

neither good nor bad

[hollow turtle]

Actually.. it doens't spaz out anymore..

[unreal bone]

Man is the Laspistol any good?

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/cc1696abead2a8889ab2bda46537be2d.jpg

interesting combat axe 🤔

[hollow turtle]

Oh. Here's a better video of that 0% stability. More noticeable in hipfire.

[odd sparrow]

yes, but get the autofire mod or youll break your fingers

the max fire rate is 5/sec but keeping that up manually will actually give you carpal tunnel

[vague hull]

planning on going for this when i hit 30, thoughts? anything that doesn't work as described by the node maybe?

[odd sparrow]

what weapon?

s

[vague hull]

haven't tested em all but power sword 6 + agripinaa shotty

rn

probably gonna give revolver a shot

[odd sparrow]

everyone says smoke is shit. I havent tried it myself tho

[vague hull]

i mean yeah but easy way to save on points

krak seems glitched af from what i saw on reddit?

[delicate moat]

psword?

[hollow turtle]

Infiltration ability.

[delicate moat]

ah

[hollow turtle]

Glitched how?

So far haven't had any issues with it

[delicate moat]

i just had it glitch on me today

it stuck on to a crusher did 0 dmg

[hollow turtle]

Lol dayum

[vague hull]

yeah does 0 damage to crushers from what I saw

and BoN

[hollow turtle]

Hmm. Maybe I haven't noticed because I still have the grenade tinkerer modifying the damage.

[frank ether]

yes its one of the many bugs with veteran

I dont know what exactly triggers it

[hollow turtle]

Dayum. How many bugs we got going.

[frank ether]

takes months to fix the low hanging fruits so you better expect the infiltrate bug to stick around forever

[vague hull]

so i'd rather save talent points even if it means i gotta take smoke nade

gives me an excuse to take the revive speed node too

[hollow turtle]

Lol I'm wondering if that smoke nade is why I haven't seen some vets use their nades lately... Are they worried they're going to get shamed?

[vague hull]

if they're like me they just dunno when to use it lol

any melee weapons you guys recommend btw? I'm guessing if i take agripiina shotgun i need something to deal with carapace

[south prairie]

True that, i barely see any smoke nade in action

[wanton dawn]

Consider your option and ask yourself why it should not be powersword

[forest maple]

I find it seriously hard to use anything other than my PS6 right now

its so freaking powerful

[south prairie]

Lmao i literally never see power cycler blessing in all my time playing

[vague hull]

my veteran is lv 19 bro idek what other weapons do except the few shared ones with psyker

[delicate moat]

dclaw gang rise up

[south prairie]

Dclaw 4 is damn nice

[delicate moat]

i swear by mk7

[blissful parcel]

which one is the best?

[delicate moat]

both good

[blissful parcel]

🫡

[south prairie]

Depends on your taste i would guess

[vague hull]

dclaw is great but not for carapce,

i guess combat knife then could work

with uncanny strike

[astral blade]

hey my dudes why do they call that sword the devil's claw?

[south prairie]

I have a knife with uncanny and backstab, literally nothing stand in its way except for bosses

But you also have to use melee vet

[delicate moat]

that seems a bit excessive

[vague hull]

that's the plan

[delicate moat]

the rending

[vague hull]

also yeah rending is cappped at 100%

[south prairie]

I guess because it sounds cool and catachans are weeb for big knives and swords

[astral blade]

makes sense?

[south prairie]

Its the hand I was dealt with and i only occasionally do backstab headshot

[delicate moat]

i gotta say, full bleed knife is pretty comfy

it's not the most dmg

but it certainly deals with trash well

[vague hull]

chainaxe good for anything? looks kinda cool

[south prairie]

Go full melee vet (because i dont have a zealot toon) and god damn it is prime turbo experience

[delicate moat]

i wish zealot also had a shovel

[south prairie]

Takes a lot of dodging (and maybe blocking) but god damn

[delicate moat]

just so we can see shovel at its full glory

[south prairie]

It was akin to snorting coke because of how fast you can go

[delicate moat]

full melee dclaw is so sick

[vague hull]

shovel looks fun as hell

[south prairie]

I havnt tried full melee dclaw yet, i have to do it now

[vague hull]

anyway ty for the feedback lads, fun class so far

you guys go toughness curios right

[untold mulch]

I go two toughness one stamina

[vague hull]

sounds good

[hollow turtle]

1 tough, 1 stam, 1 wound for me.

[untold mulch]

Wound is good if you want that backup

[hollow turtle]

More often than not, I'll die before I get picked up anyways.

[vague hull]

been playing diff 4 with 2 staminas, going fine but will probably change at diff 5

[untold mulch]

I pñay too much PUGs, and if I fall down

It usually already unravels to a wipe

[south prairie]

Same

[hollow turtle]

Not because team suck, but just because they really can't get to me.

[south prairie]

I took wound because it makes me feel safe

[untold mulch]

It feels cozy

But gotta larp as guardsman, all or nothing

[south prairie]

FOR CREED!

[bold ibex]

I didn't get TOTALLY rng screwed. No matter the blessing, it'll be usable. ;_;

[south prairie]

FOR looting things and selling on the black market

[untold mulch]

Finally spanish subtitles fixed that

[south prairie]

Hey carapace isnt too bad

[untold mulch]

They translated creed as literally a creed

Not The General, that it was a name

Literally unplayable

[unreal bone]

Man if only MG IV didn't suck.

triple 80 roll. 😔

[untold mulch]

Wasnt it pretty cozy?

[south prairie]

Daaammnnn

[untold mulch]

Save it

[unreal bone]

I am saving it.

It's wild how it does less damage and has more recoil than the XII

More effort to land your shots for less reward

[quick fossil]

Is this gun ok or will that stability kill the accuracy ?

[delicate moat]

i use 1 tough 2 stam

[bold ibex]

nope. very usable. earlier this happened my heart still broke

[south prairie]

You got the dosh, buy it and hit up the psykhanium i guess

Thats what i do

[unreal bone]

Are these perks good or bad? Cause I only have 2 refine slots and I kinda need to refine these blessings.

Unarmored seems meh, but specialists might not be bad?

[south prairie]

Personally, i can work with the blessings. Im already a heavy attack enjoyer anyway

[bold ibex]

It's all pretty okay. I wouldn't change anything yet until you figure out what you like outta the chax

[flint garden]

8% is unlikely to hit breakpoints tho idk it might

[south prairie]

And chain wep heavy special is pretty gnarly

[unreal bone]

I have a chainsword though also

[gritty dock]

A very good combination of high Shredder and Bloodletter, especially for large individuals such as mutants, etc.

[unreal bone]

I was thinking about grabbing Headtaker and Slaughterer for this thing.

It's SOOO good on those stats.

max everything with a dump in mob.

Gonna spend 500k on brunt's armory trying to get a good Kantrael XII roll because I want one for fun.

🫡

[vague hull]

based

[south prairie]

I used to go double stam too when i was rumming columnus iag with deadshot

Thing shredded mobs

[unreal bone]

a 380 from Brunt. :despair:

but it has 80 in mobility

a 378 and guess what

it has 80 in mobility...

https://tenor.com/view/sad-clown-hanging-gif-14172472

[vague hull]

mobility means you get closer to next pack of mobs means less downtime means more dps

[south prairie]

Thing doesnt look too bad, at least it doesnt have terrible stat

And yall be dumping millions on brunt meanwhile i struggle to make ends meet because my baby ogryn needs his toys

[unreal bone]

I only spent 300k.

[south prairie]

I dont even have 300k

I think i have like 70k because i switched back to my vet

[gaunt delta]

Hot take: +Dockets and +EXP are BiS Curio Perks when leveling. In the casino, the man who makes extra cash is king

[unreal bone]

I had 500k cause all I do is Auric Maelstroms

get like 60k+ a pop

[broken spade]

there have been so many times where i've just dumped 1 million dockets for a single weapon

standards might be too high...

[forest maple]

Half of my best weapons are grays/greens/blues i found on the rotating store

brunt is a scam

just be somewhat patient

it sucks i know

[novel dove]

What are the best curios for vet? ive just been running +toughness with exp while leveling, but tryin to get some better gear now

[forest maple]

Hard question to answer. Some people like running damage resistance to snipers and gunners. I don't. I run toughness/hp/combat ability regen

base curios i go tough/tough/hp

swap one tough for 3 stam when i do deadshot

[south prairie]

Indeed. I had 3 +exp curios to fasttrack my vet

[novel dove]

makes sense, so pretty much whatever lol

[forest maple]

I run exclusively a tanky shout build so, maybe you do want sniper and gunner resistance if you play lets say, excecutioners stance builds

[fleet garden]

2hp och toughness bases, hp, toughness and toughness regen on all, one gunner resistance

can run one more gunner resistance or one sniper but thats it imo

[forest maple]

Yeah that works fine aswell

i just like the 12% cd reduction so much

because shout

[novel dove]

yeah but with the elite takedown regen i feel like i dont really need the cdr for stealth tbh

[quick burrow]

will be easier once u get exhil take

[south prairie]

You cannot go wrong with more shout

[mental parcel]

devs seriously gotta change the fact of getting stunlocked by a single gunner

most of my deaths have been from getting stunlocked by gunners

[forest maple]

Yeah, fixing exhil takedown cant come soon enough

literally the lifeline of left side builds

[novel dove]

no that is def intended. one gunner should definitely be able 100-0 you from 5m away /s

[quick burrow]

my fav is the lone gunner from the side

[novel dove]

wait

[mental parcel]

no like from atleast 20 meters or 30

[quick burrow]

you sprint towards him charge in as a zealot relishing in hte blood of your enemy

[novel dove]

just shout

[forest maple]

Just shoot him

or shout

haha

[quick burrow]

then you notice the other 6 gunner hiding behind pillars spread out pefectly

then u laugh in zealot and yur wrath do be swift

[novel dove]

thats why vet needs a rocket launcher

[forest maple]

The funniest shit is when pods of 6-8 shotgunners spawn out of thin air on the same place and scurry like rats

[polar pagoda]

Question, does executioner stances' mark for allies modifier only last for 5 seconds or does it also get extended as I kill the marks?

[mental parcel]

that would be so fun

[quick burrow]

man im tired of the ninja crushers since when do they get camo

[forest maple]

as long as you have it up

shares your vision

[quick burrow]

also i have evolved and learned if theres a horde inc front of you a crusher group will spawm behind

[languid escarp]

ok the hell is with the slug shotgun, it can't even stagger an Ogryn at 70-ish% stopping power with the special shot

[quick burrow]

always look behind during hordes

[south prairie]

But then you gotta compete with the boys for the kills

[forest maple]

One more reason excecutioners stance is the worst build

[polar pagoda]

ah great, I was running a smoke grenade build with that modifier and I was afraid I was blinding them for the whole match lol

[south prairie]

Lucky i always do, manage to catch a few things myself

[quick burrow]

i think the director was directed to spawn stealth waves to wipe groups now

[forest maple]

I feel like excecutioners stance should be a 10 second duration like shout without being able to refresh but with a bit better benefits

as it is now its so bad

[languid escarp]

Psyker steal your specialists, Ogryn block your shot, fellow Vets compete with you for ranged kills, truly one of the skill of all time

[topaz lance]

Really? even with a headshot?

[languid escarp]

yeah

actually idk

[novel dove]

Are you sure its a skill? Doesnt usually feel like it.

[languid escarp]

havent tested in the Psy, only anecdote after an in game testing

[forest maple]

5 seconds for excecutioners stance is terrible tbh

[languid escarp]

yeah

[forest maple]

plus counter fire should include all enemies + ogryns

[south prairie]

Assailkers are the biggest threat to your exe juhgles because they got that homing attack

[languid escarp]

also I would love it if they add some piercing when in exe stance

[forest maple]

• another node should be like 30-50% ranged damage reduction during it

[novel dove]

Exec just feels like a huge talent tax to make it even possibly good

[languid escarp]

teammate blocking your shots is horrible

[forest maple]

Its a selfish build that benefits from tunnel vision

which is terrible

[languid escarp]

also it immediately end when switching to melee just to make sure you absolutely can't defend yourself and switch back

[wanton dawn]

It is call exe stance, not melee stance duh

[forest maple]

Yeah, i never use exec stance

and marksman focus is meh as hell

[languid escarp]

revolver is probably fast enough to keep swapping while keeping the chain going

[forest maple]

so its either shout and mark

or shout and specialist

argument to be made for infil

but i straight up ignore left side entirely

except some juicy nodes

too bad superiority complex is down there

oh well

focus target* makes up for it

[tardy vigil]

left side desperately needs ET inorder to function properly, sadly who knows when fatshark will decide to fix it

[sleek cairn]

wuts the loadout for tonight guys

[forest maple]

I don't feel like that would be enough, since the problem is deeper than that

[dark flower]

im cute

[languid escarp]

left side has: stamina burner, anti suppression but you will still get screen shaked to hell if shield broke and more ammo for the ammo hoarders

truly one of the nodes of all time

[forest maple]

Shout has no conditionals and helps the whole team out constantly

[astral blade]

So when was the columnus infantry autogun buffed exactly was it this recent hot fix?

[forest maple]

patch 14

i think

got better handling, ammo capacity

and a few other things

[fleet garden]

columnus 5 is pretty good ye

[languid escarp]

btw anyone remember what's the average toughness on Vet you usually get last patch?

I feel like it's a lot lower now

[tardy vigil]

there's some other QOL that could be encouraged, but from what i've experienced with my left side build, Tgen is its biggest issue and heavily depends on a team sticking together, but otherwise does its job really well and consistently matches my shoutvet in damage output on aurics

[fleet garden]

got ok blessings but dont really know what perks to run on a columnus since I have really used them at all

[tardy vigil]

i'd be nice to have any threat reduction, but at this point its doubtful that fatshark is willing to make any changes to either the spawning system or to ai aggro mechanics

[fleet garden]

standard maniac flak?

[forest maple]

It shouldn't match your shout vet, it should be wiping the floor with it. If the selfish damage build does the same damage as shout, then whats the reason for choosing it?

Threat reduction is generally bad for the game

[astral blade]

Yep

[forest maple]

they just need to rework the stance

[fleet garden]

you ask fatshark that

[forest maple]

to be less dumb

[tardy vigil]

it clears the ranged chaff substantially faster than my shout vet. If anything, it shows that shout vet is massively overperforming imo

[fleet garden]

left side barerly does more dmg than shout or the dmg is neglible compared to survival rate of shout

[tardy vigil]

600k damage output on whats supposed to be a support build is kinda nuts

[forest maple]

Its overperforming because the compatition pales in comparison

[fleet garden]

fatshark will see shout is still too good and nerf it and wont even touch left side, the glass half empty mindset

[forest maple]

Thats your weapons performance plus focus target if you take it

its not shout

• your skill and aim

Shout already nerfed

wont happen again