veteran-class

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

Ogryn ass looking weapon

New pistol

[sleek cairn]

The key thing to note is that u can stunlock almost any unit with caxe2 , it may give u internal timers for each unit that's staggered

[mystic belfry]

ewww

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

What did you do to my baby

[frank ledge]

this is a real knife

[hollow hinge]

i got the steel legion armor too

[placid portal]

Fucking Buster Sword looking Knife

[frank ledge]

I got it when it was released a while back

[hollow hinge]

also got the camo steel legion armor

[frank ledge]

If I block I can't dee shit

[placid portal]

[remote osprey]

Tis is not obrez, this is MOBREZ.

[mystic belfry]

Proper knife

[empty heron]

Ye I love the caxe, just find it weak against hordes. Even with bromentum.

[delicate moat]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/252 wtf cheat mod

[remote osprey]

Already can. They don't work, though.
BUT flashlights do.

[placid portal]

Bruh wtf sounds like a skill issue

[hollow hinge]

How?

[sleek cairn]

have u practiced holding ur ground instead of backpedaling? a lot of caxe users get used to backpedaling instead of creating forward space

[mystic belfry]

All I'm saying is that you haven't lived until you've learned to curve knife dodges

[sleek cairn]

maybe it's a thing liek that?

[placid portal]

I like making forward space if I need to make breakthrough

[hollow hinge]

I love knfe doging over and over again while deleting hordes

[remote osprey]

Customization mod allows you to add flashlights. Only you see the light though and it blocks melee attack as both binded to the same key.

My helbore is used with flashlight.

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgs-revengeance-platinum-games-gif-16900963

Knife when kill hoardes

[hollow hinge]

oh cool

[empty heron]

Hmm. I dodge sideways ALOT. Might be that causing problems. Good point!

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-raiden-metal-gear-ray-super-strength-gif-14889306

Knife VS Crusher

[delicate moat]

I think I'm going to try something like this with either Mk1 IAG or Columnus with psword, any suggestions?

[unreal bone]

Should I run DLSS on my setup? and if so should I run Enabled Boost or Enabled + Boost for low latency?

1080p gaming 3060ti 64gb 6000mhz ram 7800x3d

[sleek cairn]

sideways dodge fits knives and dclaw better. dont be afraid of backwards sliding.

i notice a lot of ppl never use the backwards slide

u can backwards slide into a forwards slide for in and out shenanigans

[mystic belfry]

Dodge sideways works with shovel well

[placid portal]

Yea.... about that, there's a commisaar behind my back

[sleek cairn]

haha

[mystic belfry]

Knife isn't just side to side tbh. You go back and forward ,and also in curves

You'd be surpised the hordes you can skate through with an s-shape

[sleek cairn]

i dont think anybody looks down on knife

the thing can do it all

[mystic belfry]

It zooms

[sleek cairn]

but like the other weps, its a playstyle difference

im used to rashad, some are used to shovel

[mystic belfry]

Speaking of zooming

[placid portal]

NYOOOM

[surreal mountain]

Can you remove the stock

[delicate moat]

hmm if I'm going left tree with something like columnus, do I give up shout and go exec stance?

[placid portal]

Not for my current patch of mod

[mystic belfry]

Probably

[terse idol]

Yuhh, at least imo

[placid portal]

But kinda wish I could

[mystic belfry]

If you remove stocks from a rifle

[placid portal]

I didn't update given I've been hearing the mod has Scopes for Lasguns

[empty heron]

I personally went middle tree for my columnus build. But left tree could be good too! Shame you can't get onslaught though

[terse idol]

Youuuu

[mystic belfry]

You're dead to me

[surreal mountain]

Hellbore SBR vs Hellbore Obrez

[terse idol]

Could maybe make columnus work with right tree too

Eh

[delicate moat]

[terse idol]

I should try a columnus

[mystic belfry]

I'd go middle before right

[terse idol]

*nod

[mystic belfry]

But I'd really go left

[placid portal]

I only dip on left for weakpoint

[sleek cairn]

they're arguing in zealot again

[mystic belfry]

Remember, mid horde while you're blasting away at head level? You can move normally

[sleek cairn]

look at them. filthy zealots

arguing amongst each other

[delicate moat]

i went left tree but didn't take deadshot

[sleek cairn]

it's like national geographic

[mystic belfry]

You only have to move funny when it's sparse, and if there's almost nothing just ditch the stacks and move like normal

Think of marksman's focus like an amp to executionars stance

[surreal mountain]

We already accept that Vet is shit so we don't need to argue anymore

[placid portal]

for my current marksmen build I just think of the markmen stacks as luxury

[sleek cairn]

hey now he's just dragging us into the zealot mentality

deep breaths

[surreal mountain]

I don't play Vet because he's good

I play Vet because Krieger

[sleek cairn]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719
Look, observe the zealots in their natural territory

bickering

[empty heron]

This way you could also have onslaught + iron will and go first left key

[mystic belfry]

Took a deep breath and relaxed, came back with a machine gun

[hollow hinge]

i'm a steel legion vet

[empty heron]

not sure if it's good though

[sleek cairn]

we mustn't stoop to a zealot's level

[surreal mountain]

Cringe

[delicate moat]

hmm, no camo?

[hollow hinge]

You're cringe

[mystic belfry]

Silly Tinny

I'm also a zealot

[surreal mountain]

Nah he's got the right idea

[placid portal]

I play vet like a French Trench Raider

[mystic belfry]

I play both zealot and vet a lot :)

[spice stirrup]

Does the charge time ruin this random drop?

[sleek cairn]

i know

but that channel is funny

[empty heron]

Not enough points :/

[placid portal]

Mk2's Charge time is super fast imo

iirc it's like 0~.33s charge rn

[delicate moat]

🤦‍♂️

just give me 1 more point pls

[mystic belfry]

You don't need something like camouflage with a full auto gun

[dapper vessel]

It's not like this chat is bickering 24/7

[mystic belfry]

You get stacks quickly when you start firing

[surreal mountain]

Cherish this weapon as those before you

[sleek cairn]

oh god yeah ur right

earlier it was like "psword sucks, plasma sucks, vet can't play as melee"

[mystic belfry]

As both a vet and a zealot, I argue with myself

[empty heron]

I find this chat a lot of fun. I keep it open at work and check in later. Completely different people but same bickering

[sleek cairn]

i dont even know what was going on

[surreal mountain]

Starting to sound like a Psyker

[mystic belfry]

I would never be a Psyker

I need to feel the blood of the enemy on my hands

[hollow hinge]

imo the mark2 helbore is the best choice

[sleek cairn]

i tuned out immediately when they said survivalist was the only thing we had that was good.

[empty heron]

Bubble Smite psyker is a lot of fun if you're playing with friends. It's very support though

But makes shit a lot easier

[mystic belfry]

Smite is boring

[empty heron]

For green circles yes

[mystic belfry]

I run brain burst, if we are no longer memeing

[surreal mountain]

The best perk of using Vet is knowing that you're simply better than your entire team at any given point

[mystic belfry]

No, I don't mean score boarding well or not

[sleek cairn]

whoa there

[placid portal]

Smite for half a year just to kill one poxxie

[mystic belfry]

I meant site if mind numbingly boring

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

So is assail

Only brain burst works for me

[placid portal]

Brain Burst is fun

CEREBRAL TORSION

[empty heron]

It's not good though

[surreal mountain]

They couldn't comprehend the enormity of swag that comes with being a Veteran

[empty heron]

or at least imo

[empty heron]

haven't tried it much

[mystic belfry]

Me as a psyker

I aim for a different head

[placid portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803434317849427979/1173278684271104080/Snapchat-902081851.mp4?ex=65635fec&is=6550eaec&hm=00263baceedf9118bcfa5ff76150b4308760109f1197b17305dd8c16f0b24959&

[empty heron]

Psykers need Testicular Burst talent option

500% psychic damage

[mystic belfry]

It's okay, I gave all my rations to the ogryn so I don't need it anymore

[mystic belfry]

They just fall the the ground stunned for 30 seconds

[sleek cairn]

to be honest, every fps game in history could have testicles as a weakspot. But none of them do it

[empty heron]

True!

[sleek cairn]

wait does tarkov have testicular weakspots

[umbral scaffold]

Sniper Elite does.

[surreal mountain]

Imagine watching a crusher fall over and die with a pool of blood at his crotch

[empty heron]

I think there was a couple

[mystic belfry]

Wrong :)

[sleek cairn]

lol sniper elite, do they x-ray the scrotum?

[surreal mountain]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

100% they do

[empty heron]

Yes! And an old western game I can't remember

[mystic belfry]

They do

[sleek cairn]

im not so sure i want to see the x-ray scrotum

what about Zombie Army ?

[empty heron]

Brutal

[mystic belfry]

And hitler only has one testicle

[placid portal]

I thought he has 3 irl

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-it-gif-19108365

[placid portal]

🤔

[surreal mountain]

Hitler only gets one ball in the game and you can explode it

[mystic belfry]

This happens to every Crusher I kill with a knife from the front

[sleek cairn]

how are u guys not wincing from the thought of it

[mystic belfry]

A weakpoint is a weakpoint

[surreal mountain]

I am in constant agony

[placid portal]

I am embedded with the Butcher nails

[mystic belfry]

it doesn't make me wince, it find it hilarious

[placid portal]

It's nasty for sure

[empty heron]

"The pain of others amuses me"

[sleek cairn]

Not sure if the emperor approves

[mystic belfry]

yes

[sleek cairn]

is it heresy

[mystic belfry]

No, becaue I'm killing heretics

They're not people

[surreal mountain]

Big E likes violence I'm sure

[mystic belfry]

Boss man told me the emperor likes kill

So I kill

[placid portal]

Given how he made a gun that penetrates and explodes with a melee weapon that saws through people yea

[mystic belfry]

Ngl I still find saw weapons stupid

like incredible stupid

[placid portal]

Same

Gears of War did it and it was dumb

[surreal mountain]

You're thinking too hard

[placid portal]

As Empra Says

Ignorance is Strenght

[surreal mountain]

Just look at it and say hell yeah

[empty heron]

I read about the bond an Ogryn can form with a soldier on the battlefield yesterday. Made me love having an Ogryn on the team even more. And the interactions they have with us veterans. Undying loyalty ❤️

[sleek cairn]

do u guys think the Beast of nurgle has a pair of balls to burst?

somewhere under all that

[empty heron]

backballs

big yellow thing

[placid portal]

I dunno if daemons need reproductive organs anyways

[sleek cairn]

we've been doing it all along!?

oh my god

[surreal mountain]

I love when an Ogryn stands in front of me as I'm trying to kill the sniper that just deleted half of our team's health ♥

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

Hey guys, how do we make a macuahuitl, but make it worse?

[surreal mountain]

LOL

[placid portal]

Cock and ball torture from the free encyclopedia from wikipedia dot org

[empty heron]

Very true. I think I shoot more ogryn back than heretics when having a tank on my team

[terse idol]

IT WAS BLESSED BY THE OMNISIAH, COME OOOON

[mystic belfry]

No, anyoen who says chain weapons are blessed is a false massiah and a heretic

[surreal mountain]

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE HIT BY A CHAINSAW @mystic belfry

[sleek cairn]

o shit they're still arguing in zealot

[mystic belfry]

I'd rather be hit by a chainsaw than a fucking axe, sword, or dagger lmao

Are you kidding

[placid portal]

Problem is, the macuahuitl was to incapacitate their victims to capture for sacrifices

[terse idol]

Like, i said this before, but the chainsword doesn't get stuck by dried blood, instantly dislodged all gore

This shit is magic

[topaz lance]

That's why you use a revolver.

[placid portal]

As if WH don't have space hell magic

[surreal mountain]

I use Hellbore

[mystic belfry]

Fam, those black bits are fucking obsidian and they're sharper than modern day scalpels

[terse idol]

We got warp magic and orc magic so

[mystic belfry]

They are not for capturing people alive lmao

[terse idol]

Well

[mystic belfry]

They had normal clubs

[topaz lance]

That should pen the Ogryn, right?

[terse idol]

And to be fair they flake off easily, so it's not as good as surgical steel

[sleek cairn]

gonna be honest, i can't go back to helbore after using plasma n revolver so often and not giving a shit about teammate ogryns

[terse idol]

😌

[surreal mountain]

It should, and even if it does I can't look through a wall of meat

[mystic belfry]

hence why it was designed to just put more in after they broke off

[sleek cairn]

the second u touch helbore III again, u start cussing out ur teammate ogryns

[placid portal]

Usually they will capture enemies for sacrifices due to their culture of human sacrifices

[mystic belfry]

however, consider razer sharp bits of obsidian shrapnel in your body when one of those cuts into you and shatters on your bones

[terse idol]

Like yes obsidian has a sharper edge but that shit breaks off

[terse idol]

Yeeesss

I mean to be fair, it's inorganic

[mystic belfry]

And worse comes to worse, it's a club

[terse idol]

It can chill in your body and be fine

Like shrapnel

[surreal mountain]

I just run a MkII and I still get violent urges when it happens

[placid portal]

Hmm yes reminds me of Rock

[mystic belfry]

Obsidian shrapnel would slice you every time you move that bit of your body

It's sharper than a scalpel

[surreal mountain]

If only every class was as magnificent as the Veteran

[terse idol]

😌

[placid portal]

yes I agree with the sharpness of obsidian

[mystic belfry]

Rock good

Rock bonk

[placid portal]

real

Slingers still was in use in warfare until blackpower guns were properly developed

[mystic belfry]

Yep

Slings with lead shot was usually the play in war though, not just rocks

[surreal mountain]

Mfs are still using trebuchets in the middle east

[placid portal]

They do what they'll do

[mystic belfry]

The romans did it extensively, they had a lot of professional slingers as auxillory mercenaries

[terse idol]

I'm gonna say it and make myself angry but, dnd 5e slings are bad

Ah

[placid portal]

Real

[sleek cairn]

they need to make helbore cleave teammates

[mystic belfry]

Nah there is a major use case for slings in D&D

You can hide it super easily

Enjoy

[terse idol]

I guuuuesss

[nimble sentinel]

time to do some science and potentially throw an auric

[sleek cairn]

like the draw speed is annoying, u gotta ads and charge the gun, and a teammate can nullify 100% of ur shot

[mystic belfry]

Wrap the sling around your arm under you sleave

[placid portal]

When they make it seem throwing rocks with the momentum of a circular motion swing is as weak as a club

[mystic belfry]

Hide your ammo where the sun don't shine

They'll never know

A little lead poisoning as a treat

[terse idol]

Looook, ahhhh

[placid portal]

I don't think the lead poisoning will get there before their brains are bashed inside out

[mystic belfry]

You just can't handle proper optimization smh

[surreal mountain]

They need to let you see through the fucking Ogryn because I can't count how many times a mauler is in their face that they didn't ping and I get face fucked trying to push through the flesh behemoth blocking the choke point

[sleek cairn]

hey take camouflage

[terse idol]

I mean yeah but the damage sucks and I'm assuming you're already a rogue with a +Fuck you, in sleight of hand
Sling making me annngryyy

[mystic belfry]

Hide your ammo where the sun don't shine

It's not the enemy getting lead poisoning

[placid portal]

Also I think D&D slings are those tiny birdshot sling

[nimble sentinel]

long range assassin locks it out

[sleek cairn]

i know

[placid portal]

Guh

https://tenor.com/view/guh-guh-cat-cat-gif-24943124

[terse idol]

Okay I'm alive, it's just weird that
Man we got history of mercenary company that were hired because they were so good at the sling and 5e be like "uhhhh, 1d4 damage"

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-tiger-crazy-tiger-gif-23537622

[terse idol]

"Also give yourself lead poisoning"

[sleek cairn]

actually is long range assassin preferable to camouflage?

[terse idol]

[mystic belfry]

Studded leather, longsword, longbows use dex and not str, etc, etc, etc

There's a lot

[terse idol]

Errythkng huurts

[nimble sentinel]

this is why I do the science

[placid portal]

How tf does bows not require min strength of 14?

[surreal mountain]

Elden ring

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

Which gun

[sleek cairn]

whatever hes using, kantrael iv

lasgun

[terse idol]

Long bows do

[placid portal]

what

[terse idol]

Or well they have a req

[mystic belfry]

They do not

[terse idol]

They got heavy no?

[mystic belfry]

No

[terse idol]

You cant be small to use em

What is that mod

[mystic belfry]

Small is not a str requirement

It's a size requirement

[placid portal]

Clearly a size issue

[mystic belfry]

Which is why you can't use longbows well tbh

very smol

[dusk idol]

just hold them gangster style

[mystic belfry]

Now just for a second

[terse idol]

Wait yes, I'm getting gaslight
Yesss, it has heavy which means you'll be worse if you're "small"
I.e like 3foot tall

[mystic belfry]

Think of an ogryn with a giant bow made of sprint steel

[placid portal]

It'd be more effective if we give ogryn rock instead

[mystic belfry]

Sling

[sleek cairn]

or just ogryn with nothing

[terse idol]

I guess yall are right its a liiiittle silly

[mystic belfry]

Give the ogryn me, an angry melee vet with a knife

[placid portal]

Ogryn with big choppa

[mystic belfry]

Yeet me

[placid portal]

it should be funny method

Ogryn grab enemies/teammates and throw

[mystic belfry]

Just fucking throw me at the gunners

[placid portal]

[sleek cairn]

it actually makes sense for ogryn to pick up teammates and throw them

[terse idol]

This is why FS is afraid of adding ratlings

Its too strong with Ogrynns

[sleek cairn]

ogryn having 0 abilities to throw entities around is sad

[ivory rock]

I mean the mobility is hella low but like...

This is kinda a steal aint it?

[placid portal]

yep

[terse idol]

Ogryns should be able to do suplex on god

[mystic belfry]

Hit a barrel twice

[placid portal]

[sleek cairn]

okay technically

ogryns do hit barrels around me 24/7

[mystic belfry]

yes

[placid portal]

don't blame em

[mystic belfry]

Big swings equal a lot of barrels

[sleek cairn]

then they'll look around like "who done it"

[terse idol]

Its the veteran space program

[placid portal]

they have deceptively big hit range

[mystic belfry]

I wouldn't blame ogryns if they would yeet me into the backlines of the enemy

but they don't so I will continue to blame them

[sleek cairn]

yeah but its funny when they look around as if somebody else did it. nah ogryn did it to themselves

[ivory mural]

Does the bug that caused hits to go through toughness for Vet still happen? My friends and I are thinking it is still around

[stone birch]

yes

[mystic belfry]

What bug

[sleek cairn]

no it was just changed

i know the bug ur referring to

it was a while ago

[ivory mural]

it was a year ago

[stone birch]

then maybe I dont ><

[sleek cairn]

yeah about

[mystic belfry]

I think Tinny might be a bug tbh

[sleek cairn]

around launch day

[ivory mural]

I can have full toughness and get smacked and lose some toughness but like 1/6 my health is gone

[mystic belfry]

melee chips through toughness

Block and dodge

[ivory mural]

Not getting hit on Damnation with high intensity is crazy hard

[placid portal]

Yea somehow I did

Ofc Infiltrate got my back

[terse idol]

I mean yeah you'll get hit, it shouldn't do 1/6th your health though

[mystic belfry]

You'll get better

[sleek cairn]

unless hes getting hit in melee

[ivory mural]

big chunks, we're in VOIP talking about it on our server

[sleek cairn]

but honestly even if something eats 90% of my health away, i just shrug it off

not like it does anything to u

[terse idol]

me being 1hp on my last wound
the pox walker winding up the goofiest attack in the world
vet be like: 😴

[ivory rock]

I actually coulda made this thing a beast if it hadnt rolled SPEED LOADER

[mystic belfry]

Hah! look at this loser with an unyielding revolver

[topaz lance]

depending on how you build thhis, you might still be able to one shot everything except carapace under exe stance

[ivory rock]

yeah I was gonna replace it with flak if it hadnt fuckin rolled sl4

[sleek cairn]

hey dont shit on speedloader. it's.. neat

[ivory rock]

oh hell yeah i love speedloader! waitasecondddddddd

[umbral scaffold]

This build has been pretty damn strong with Plasma+Power Sword. All about weakspot damage, melts bosses and armor while keeping your dumb teammates alive.

[placid portal]

When volley adept is in the weird niche tree

[sleek cairn]

i mean it's even mroe wait a second if u need to reload a revolver anymore

the meta is now to never reload the revolver lol

[mystic belfry]

Running shovel/plasma with this

[placid portal]

Weapon Specialists got that 33% reload on swap

[sleek cairn]

exactly

i cant even remember when i last reloaded

[mystic belfry]

No target down, cringe tbh

[placid portal]

need these passive blessings to be a perk slot for our characters

[sleek cairn]

weapon specialist really changed my plasma/revolver/shotgun play lol

[ivory rock]

True true reloading is cringe but I like dmg xd

[sleek cairn]

from worrying about reload to never reloading ever again

[umbral scaffold]

Already have shout to keep their ass alive, if that's not enough it's a krill issue

[terse idol]

For the emperor nerfed

[mellow bridge]

Is infernus worth it on the baby infantry lasgun? I feel like it doesn't really contribute much

[terse idol]

Might be time to pack up this node lads

[mystic belfry]

For the emperor wasn' even good before the nerf

[terse idol]

And then it got worse

[sleek cairn]

wait man

[terse idol]

[ivory rock]

they're nerfing vet????????

aint no fuckin way

[mystic belfry]

He can only fire foam darts now

:\

[ivory rock]

Am I goin mental aint that just the thing we yell

[nimble sentinel]

update

[sleek cairn]

what the hell happened

ur a vet, u can't see this screen

it should be physically impossible for vets to ever see this screen

[mystic belfry]

Skill issue screen

[sharp ember]

you're only gonna feel it vs bosses, and elites you kill 90% of the way but don't finish off for whatever circumstance preventing you

conclusion: no, there's better choices

[mystic belfry]

The big one on las pistol is dum dum

[topaz lance]

yeah, you're supposed to rage quit before that

[nimble sentinel]

my steam handle is literally "God's Most Skilled Issue"

[nimble sentinel]

3 teammates got instantly melted by crushers, I lasted a bit longer but only had 2 krak grenades

[sleek cairn]

u could shoot the crushers

or melee

a little shovel, psword, wutever u please. axes.

dclaw parries

clutch that game!

[nimble sentinel]

kantrael lasgun and csword, also had to deal with flamers

[ivory rock]

Ain't they say there were gonna fix the krak grenades not workin on bosses?

[sleek cairn]

oh nvm ur doomed, chainsword special would be so risky this patch

[ivory rock]

Def still not workin

[mystic belfry]

Krak grenades work on bosses

[nimble sentinel]

HOWEVER, I think the build has potential for ranged crowd clearing and special slaying

[mellow bridge]

Noted

[mystic belfry]

Ranged crowd clearing, kek

What are you an ogryn

[sleek cairn]

if u swap ur chainsword to a meta vet melee, u could probably fix all your issues at once.

Use a psword6

[terse idol]

I haven't not had krak grenades not work on bosses

[sleek cairn]

hmm that about fixes everything. Bad build? slap a psword6 on it

solved

[ivory rock]

I've seen em do the 1 dmg bug or whatever a few times tho

We think this is worth or keep rollin?

[mystic belfry]

Probably didn't stick well or, they put the hand through a wall

[nimble sentinel]

but where's the fun in that?

[sleek cairn]

then use a shovel

shovel is always fun

[mystic belfry]

low ammo ow, it's good damage though

[nimble sentinel]

my brother in Terra, I am experimenting

[terse idol]

Chainsword is fun doe

[mystic belfry]

Chainsword is boring

[topaz lance]

You can take my chainsword from my cold, dead hands

[nimble sentinel]

shit u rite

[sleek cairn]

shovel is fun and better at clutching

[mystic belfry]

deal

[umbral scaffold]

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[sharp ember]

chainaxe needs like 200% carapace damage

[mystic belfry]

Hmm, will I do a horitoznal swing

[topaz lance]

(I have revolver to deal with crushers though so meh)

[mystic belfry]

No another diagnol swing

[terse idol]

Aw come on, with the speed on rhe special attack up oooh

[mystic belfry]

Follow by a diagnol swing

[hollow hinge]

live footage of a meth addict

[terse idol]

The chainsword stonks are okay

[mystic belfry]

Right right

[sleek cairn]

that special atk is what gets ppl killed from the spawns thsi patch lol

[nimble sentinel]

real talk kantrael 4 has nearly infinite ammo and an insane headshot multiplier, just click on anythings head and let the god emperor figure out the rest

[mystic belfry]

Lemme use this special so I can get domed by a firing squad of eight shotgunners

[sleek cairn]

maybe prior to the patch yeah

[terse idol]

🥹

[topaz lance]

That's often the wrong way to use it actually. Light spam is very effective at horde clearing.

[terse idol]

Whaaat

[mystic belfry]

Light spam isn't overly fun for me on chainsword either

[nimble sentinel]

I'd use a recon las but...

[terse idol]

This special being fast now means you're not animation locked for an hour

[mystic belfry]

The shotgunners don't care how long you're locked on for

neither does the sniper that just spawne and is already aiming at you smh

[ivory rock]

[terse idol]

Don't be telling me spamming a ps6 with power🥹 cycler for the 400th time is engaging doe

[topaz lance]

It does kinda suck that chainsword is now missing some nice breakpoints it was reaching before though

oh well

[terse idol]

To be fair nothing is stopping either of em

[mystic belfry]

I don't use power swords much at all

[sleek cairn]

it's mostly a mixed horde thing. spawn 2 bosses, 6 crushers, 10 ragers, maybe 10 maulers and 2 mutants. take ur chainsword n try to fight them

[terse idol]

😌

[sleek cairn]

it'll be difficult to live

that special wont allow u to live

but grab a dclaw or psword u could probably clutch it

[mystic belfry]

my melee weapons for vet are claw, knife, shovel, and sometimes achyls axe

[terse idol]

P sword shleep
Dclaw let's goo

[sleek cairn]

achyls is pretty good actually

lol

[mystic belfry]

Dclaw do be tanking two bosses at the same time

[sleek cairn]

im glad somebody else sees that

[terse idol]

Dclaw when you run upgraded medkit and someone accidentally wakes the daemon host
And you start parrying

[nimble sentinel]

dclaw do be hittin carapace with all the strength of an emaciated field mouse tho

[mystic belfry]

Demonhost when I decided to run thrust hammer on a whim

[terse idol]

That is a pain

[sleek cairn]

#veteran-class message

You mean this dclaw?

[mystic belfry]

This is time for a gamer move with a game build

Drag the counter attack into trash, killing them

Quickdraw revolver and headshot crusher

Repeat

[sleek cairn]

lol

[nimble sentinel]

oshit

[sleek cairn]

its often easier to describe with vids lol

ppl just dont know

[nimble sentinel]

which dcalw is that?

[mystic belfry]

heavy 1 claw spam feels a lot like executionar sword tbh

[sleek cairn]

i dont think the whole vet community would recommend dclaw if it couldnt kill some carapace lol

[mystic belfry]

Claw 4

Ngl fam

Any melee weapon can kill carapace

[nimble sentinel]

oshit fr? I gotta build a new one

[sleek cairn]

im thinking... u're right but i dont like chainaxe or chainsword for it

[mystic belfry]

Chain axe is better at it than you think

[sleek cairn]

ur prob right, i dont touch the thing

i would not like to find out either

please, i dont want to play a round of chainaxe lol

learning is pain

[delicate moat]

okay i was able to win a AM reasonably comfy, but with a non-keystone tree...

[nimble sentinel]

I'm assuming flak and carapace damage?

[mystic belfry]

Flak and maniac

[brazen cradle]

That me or the vet skilltree is horrible?

[mystic belfry]

You

it's just really weird in some ways

But it's still functional

[sleek cairn]

the way he phrased that question; we have to answer in a toxic way now

[umbral scaffold]

Wait what the, why did they change lawbringer's spreadshot special shell pattern

[mystic belfry]

We also have a lot of tax nodes

[umbral scaffold]

This is preposterous

[empty heron]

which talents did you pick?

[sleek cairn]

sigh, it's you but only cuz u had to ask us that way

[brazen cradle]

I hate the final tree just before the keystone

[terse idol]

Itssss a little tight

[mystic belfry]

Pro level axe meme

[nimble sentinel]

godamnit hadron rogal dorn's gonna be jealous of the fortress I can make with all these bricks

[zealous wyvern]

maybe he will recruit you into the fist

[sleek cairn]

these two nodes right here officer.

[dapper vessel]

Skullcrusher and Rampage is good

[zealous wyvern]

if hadron bricks enough of your weapons, you unlock the secret space marine ass

[sleek cairn]

fk these two nodes

arrest them

[delicate moat]

psword + mk1 IAG, very basic, not max dmg output, but comfy for me to use so

[nimble sentinel]

magic pain glove, tell me how to get a good gacha roll

[nimble sentinel]

rampage 2 tho

[dapper vessel]

With rampage still bugged you still get the power increase, alongside the unintended damage bug

[terse idol]

I like the toughness share... even if the readability of how much you give is

Nonexistant

[dapper vessel]

8% power difference

[dusty ferry]

Looking at this figure is making me think of heretical things

[sleek cairn]

get out

[dusty ferry]

help

[nimble sentinel]

oh that's not so bad

[dapper vessel]

and Skullcrusher is actually 4 stacks of 10% damage

[terse idol]

[dapper vessel]

capping at 8 stacks

[terse idol]

How else I'm gonna play support vet

[sleek cairn]

You dare say u like this node

[mystic belfry]

I like toughness share on my support vet

[dapper vessel]

so with Skullcrusher you're getting an 80% damage increase

[sleek cairn]

ur going to make melon puke

[mystic belfry]

ye

[terse idol]

Yes come on

[mystic belfry]

But it shouldn't be a forced node

[nimble sentinel]

it's bath time, nurgle

[dapper vessel]

Tier 1-3 Skullcrusher's tooltip is updated. Tier 4 skullcrusher isnt

[terse idol]

It shouldn't be forced ues

Bur it neeeds

Readability

And uh, better feedback

[sleek cairn]

i mean u guys probably go mid keystone anyway and give way more toughness that way

[mystic belfry]

yes

[terse idol]

Literally impossible to tell if its actually helping your team

[dapper vessel]

[sleek cairn]

dead node to me.

[mystic belfry]

And the Toughness that gives me give more to them

[delicate moat]

teammates need to glow in RGB if they get benefits from middle keystone

[dapper vessel]

That node's only a pathway for tactical awareness or to go down the middle tree

[terse idol]

If you ever melee anything to death you've already helped your team with this node 😌

[mystic belfry]

If i regen 25% toughness for everyone, it's actually 28.75% toughness for them

because I also got 25% and that heals them

[delicate moat]

you know how the zealot 15% toughness chorus glow on teammates, or whatever causes the glow

just add that but in RGB

[sleek cairn]

no more guys, stop. this node is tearing us apart

[mystic belfry]

This also means voice of commands heals 15% of your max toughness if empty (step on fire) when you proc Voice of Command, on top of the 50 overheal

[sleek cairn]

i can't take it anymore

what if we phrase it differently

[mystic belfry]

Bet you never expected the fire tap meta

[terse idol]

But uhhh, is it affected by toughness regen, does the speed get stopped by damage does it benefit from toughness gained over time does-

[sleek cairn]

what if... we get 1 more extra skillpoint after we remove this node? does that sound better

[mystic belfry]

nerd

[mystic belfry]

no

[sleek cairn]

hatred

[mystic belfry]

But it shouldn't be forced

[terse idol]

THESE ARE THE THINGS I GOTTA KNOW

[nimble sentinel]

anyone else miss the days of playing invulnerable rambo with agripina brauto?

[mystic belfry]

No

I didn't play vet then

[sleek cairn]

u can be shouty rambo instead, does that help

[delicate moat]

budget invul rambo

[sleek cairn]

lol

[nimble sentinel]

it's not the same

[mystic belfry]

I'm invulnerably because I have a knife tbh

When someone attacks me I just change zip codes

[terse idol]

What if vet actually had a few more talent points over just because we're quirky like that 🤪

[mystic belfry]

Vet should have more talents because we're more experienced

[sleek cairn]

Born Leader is punishment enough. just reward us with 1 point for having to path through it

[mystic belfry]

It's in the name

[empty heron]

or just implement this beautiful change

[mystic belfry]

You don't get to choose your birth right

[nimble sentinel]

counter point: the psyker is dating god

[mystic belfry]

Accept being a support vet

[dusty ferry]

I won't share who my Beloved is, wench - Psyker

[mystic belfry]

Psyker ain't going to be dating anyone after I rip his brain out tbh

[dusty ferry]

You dont need to do it
Let the psyker explode

[mystic belfry]

I don't want to wait

[dusty ferry]

You dont have to
Just stealth your way out and let em incur the wrath of heretics on em

[nimble sentinel]

just grab the commissar's cap and a revolver smh my head

[mystic belfry]

No I'll use a knife thanks

[dusk idol]

just had the heaviest psyker known to man

broke all of our backs

[dusty ferry]

onyo kyo

[sleek cairn]

explain

even the worst psyker can't break backs right

[dusk idol]

dead for 70% of the game

every time we picked him up he died again

[sleek cairn]

arent zealots known for that

[dusk idol]

didn't dodge any trappers or snipers or dogs or mutants

[gusty bison]

Isnt this a buff to like

Almost every node

[dusk idol]

took every healing station

please god

why

[dusk idol]

also hi

[sleek cairn]

scoreboard on the healing stations used or downs pls

[delicate moat]

maybe i should try knife vet, uncanny / precog?

[mystic belfry]

Nope

[terse idol]

Hmm, yeah true
Finally also a solution to survivalist, grenade regen

'Ate rng

[empty heron]

Ye. I'm more fan of the actual changes this guy has thought of though, less so much doubling x%

[umbral scaffold]

When? I want my super shotgun

[empty heron]

And the smoke nade extinguish fire is genius

[buoyant hound]

I fixed the keystone thing with not using them

[mystic belfry]

never, play vermintide 2 and use grudge raker ranger veteran

[sleek cairn]

gonna be honest i dont see the issue here

[dusty ferry]

hewwoo

[dusk idol]

if only scoreboard could have put you in that game

[dusty ferry]

Kyo i will be likely free in 3-4 hours to play

[mystic belfry]

This mfer wants to nerf the duration

begone

[sleek cairn]

well his dmg taken is low and his health stations used is like 3

[umbral scaffold]

Time to kill raki and kazak wazzoks.

[mystic belfry]

yeee

[terse idol]

If it actually puts out fire....

[dusk idol]

he took 1.3k damage as a psyker

[terse idol]

I mean

Smoke needs abit of work

A. nullify all shooters baseline

[mystic belfry]

Aura's aren't this complex

Just make it power instead of damage

[sleek cairn]

its why i download the mod that tells me netted/trapped/killed/downed stats lol

the real stats u need

[umbral scaffold]

Smoke is really good, people just don't know how to capitalize on it

[sleek cairn]

and plasteel of course, keep plasteel

[dusk idol]

i still have the old one

[umbral scaffold]

It breaks AI really hard

[terse idol]

Its not that complex, it's just survivalist for grenades

[dusk idol]

alright lmk

[terse idol]

Different grenades have different value

[mystic belfry]

It's not because it has to effect ogryn nukes and psykers

[terse idol]

Throw rng into the traaash

[dusty ferry]

Alright!

[terse idol]

Hmm

Good point

[sleek cairn]

would u guys take a node that just randomizes the nade u throw lol

[dusk idol]

i think the only point i can really draw to using old scoreboard is how many times operatives were rescued/revived

[mystic belfry]

Hell fucking no

[sleek cairn]

hahaha

[terse idol]

No

[empty heron]

In what situations do you use it? Gunner squad?

[sleek cairn]

randomizer nades

[umbral scaffold]

On Ogryn yes

[terse idol]

If I can randomize all grenades maybe

[sleek cairn]

sometimes smoke. sometimes krak, u never know guys

[mystic belfry]

Would you take a node than instantly kills you

[terse idol]

Vet throws ogryn nuke

[empty heron]

That sounds wrong

[sleek cairn]

Was it really so bad of an idea

sounded fun to me

[terse idol]

Its awful

[mystic belfry]

I usually smoke my krak tbh

[empty heron]

Smoke and krak in same sentence

[sleek cairn]

i mean if u throw it at the boss, all 3 will still stagger lol

[mystic belfry]

Always makes me feel pretty shredded afterwards

[sleek cairn]

u just dont know which one it might be

[mystic belfry]

I throw myself at the boss

[sleek cairn]

ok i guess krak will make the satisfying clink sound

[empty heron]

We're talking about drugs @sleek cairn

[tardy vigil]

have a few complaints about that image. I don't like how only the middle tree has a lockout choice, grenade aura just has the same problem as survivalist does, its too damn powerful without nerfing it into oblivion, imagine getting reliable access to ogryn nukes. Left keystone removing stacks on missed weakspots (unless im misunderstanding it and you gain stacks by just hitting targets, right side key still not giving swap speed to incentivize the swapping playstyle, etc.

[umbral scaffold]

Loads of specials coming for your ass, revives, into packs of hordes to make shooters/gunners come closer, at bosses to stagger and break their AI.
Specials like flamers, trappers and dogs come really close before they initiate their attacks so you can actually pick them off with melee easily.

[dusty ferry]

Drugs?

Estronge?

owo?

[topaz lance]

Hopefully with part 2 in december. Smoking that hopium like it's krak

[dusk idol]

it's alright, ogryn nukes got a 40% damage nerf

[empty heron]

Good points.

[sleek cairn]

u guys talk as if our nades offend you

are any of our nades so bad they'd kill u outright

[empty heron]

Hm. What would happen if you throw one at ragers for example? They go dumb?

[mystic belfry]

imagine getting reliable access to ogryn nukes.
Be a gamer

[terse idol]

Honestly shout reducing the range is bad now that I think about it, especially now that the shout is nerfed back to 50+

And its a point tax if you take shout

[tardy vigil]

that has a resource and opportunity cost with it, not an always active passive

[mystic belfry]

To be clear, I think group nade regen is too good

[umbral scaffold]

It would stagger them but melee enemies are mostly unaffected by it. It fucks with their targeting so they might switch between people to attack and cause them to not know what to do.

[mystic belfry]

not even ogryn nukes

Thing about a zealot spamming stuns or flame nades lmao

[terse idol]

I guess there is reason grenades don't just grow on trees for any other class

[delicate moat]

idk a whacky knife build

[sleek cairn]

u know what i hate about this node? some prick using up the entire medpack at double the rate cuz he took a lot of dmg first.

now nobody gets the heal except the guy who got poxbursted

bastard

[terse idol]

Honestly, I'm at a breaking point

[empty heron]

Extra powerful smoke grenade. Love it

Never change

[mystic belfry]

need a push?

[terse idol]

Survivalist needs to get axed or, the other auras just need to get buffed

[mystic belfry]

The damage node would be balanced at 5% power

[empty heron]

Survivalist could be baseline vet?

[sleek cairn]

this is actually pretty strong lol

[tardy vigil]

Survivalist really just needs to be the base aura which is built upon by all three auras, or rebalance the ammo eco of the game without it

[mystic belfry]

Remove the 5% movespeed node, make the movespeed aura 10%

done

[terse idol]

5 movement speed is just terrible le

[delicate moat]

make it 100%

[terse idol]

Would rather actually have the fan tree stamina changes

[mystic belfry]

Did someone say knife build

[empty heron]

Or this.

[terse idol]

Like I gotta look at the lenses of other classes and vets have rhe worse auras

[sleek cairn]

that's OP as shit

are u kidding

[terse idol]

Except survivalist

[delicate moat]

mercy killer / uncanny?

[mystic belfry]

That's crazy

[mystic belfry]

bleed bleed for that build

[delicate moat]

ah

lacerate / flesh tearer?

[sonic grove]

Is scattershot + manstopper a good idea for a lawbringer shotgun on a weapon specialist keystone build?

[sonic grove]

It seems logical. Proc as many crits as possible for maximum cleave

[mystic belfry]

13 stacks of bleed when you crit without a weak spot hit

[sleek cairn]

death by annoying mosquito

[mystic belfry]

And this shold be giving you ~10-20% crit most of the time

[empty heron]

Isn't the one with extra gazillion damage if it bleeds strong?

[mystic belfry]

It's okay, I run that with a different knife

[empty heron]

ah okay

[empty heron]

yeyeye

[mystic belfry]

And no, I don't use that with infiltrate, still shout vet

Jump to make backstab headshots on crushers consistant

[empty heron]

This one with serrated blade looks sexy af to me

[mystic belfry]

yep.

It has my fancy show off combo

Run up to crusher, when it overhead, dodge sideways, curve around in in a 180, you're not behind it

Special, light, heavy

ded

Different build though

[empty heron]

Does Mercy Killer activate on first hit?

Or do you need to build 1 stack of bleed first

[mystic belfry]

Special is to proc bleed

[empty heron]

ah

[mystic belfry]

it's a punc

[empty heron]

h

[mystic belfry]

The light is a stab

the heavy is another stab

You want them to be backstab headshots

It's the kind of pointlessly high-skill build I like to run sometimes

[empty heron]

hm. Does Beast of Nurgle orange balls count as backstab weakspot?

[mystic belfry]

I believe so

[tardy vigil]

Another caveat i have with vet, is that we have several nodes which improve damage and/or regen when no enemies within 8m, mostly on the left side of the tree. Meanwhile the only aggro reduction or drop vet gets, is on the far right side. If another rework ever comes to vet, that is something i would like to see changed because most of those nodes are just tax nodes since the likelyhood of you being able to reliably use them are pretty low, especially given the current spawn system

[empty heron]

I struggle with nurgle beast in melee sometimes though. It eats me. Drops me to 1 hp and then some rando dreg just kills me outright

[mystic belfry]

If you get puked on, leave melee

[empty heron]

not puked

[mystic belfry]

Wait till the debuff is gone

[empty heron]

Swallowed

[mystic belfry]

It cannot eat you unless you're puked on

[empty heron]

Not sure how to counter it

what

[sleek cairn]

well if he glances at u, best u sprint away lol

[mystic belfry]

ye

[empty heron]

Shit I didn't know

[sleek cairn]

haha

[mystic belfry]

Nah, I face fight em

[empty heron]

thats amazing advice

[flint garden]

you kinda just kite it and hope your team shoots it while its aggroed

[mystic belfry]

Knife can curve dodge sidways hard enough to avoid puke fine

[sleek cairn]

not getting slimed is hard depending on ur wep of choice

[delicate moat]

what happens if solo?

[mystic belfry]

Dodge good

[sleek cairn]

u git gud

[empty heron]

throw smoke nade

[delicate moat]

lol

[sleek cairn]

but if ur using psword, it's gonna take some sprinting

lol

[mystic belfry]

When you see a grab animation and you can't get away (dodge backwards), press ult

[sleek cairn]

hit run tactics

[mystic belfry]

Btw you can troll bosses by chaining heavy sprint attacks with backwards dodges

[bronze atlas]

A good chunk of the weapons let you safely melee fight on the flank, but vet is pretty bad at it

[mystic belfry]

Disagree

[bronze atlas]

Ogryn can beat the beasts ass no problem

[mystic belfry]

Ogryn can beat anything no problem regardless of what it is

[umbral scaffold]

When people say smoke is bad, show them this

[mystic belfry]

A nuclear bomb can also kill a small bird

[bronze atlas]

Psyker would be worse at the flank except every psyker on atoma runs a dueling sword

[sleek cairn]

can u also record one with like 100 shotguners 100 gunners, 100 reapers and 100 dogs

so i can make a point

yes pls, thank you

[frank ledge]

It's great

[bronze atlas]

It is

[mystic belfry]

Then at the end of the video show an ogryn against the same group with one grenade as a 5 second clip

[sleek cairn]

no i demand u make the ogryn die for no reason

[bronze atlas]

But as a result the vet is the worst at sitting on the beasts flank with melee weapons

[mystic belfry]

Disagree

[bronze atlas]

But also like... you're vet shoot your gun

[mystic belfry]

Psyker is worse

[mystic belfry]

lol

[sleek cairn]

vets dont really use guns these days

[empty heron]

I'm a weak spot addict and often struggle with hitting beast because I ALWAYS have aggro

[sleek cairn]

we do inspect them cuz it's cool

[bronze atlas]

Have you ever dodged using a dueling sword

[tardy vigil]

plasma vets say otherwise

[nimble sentinel]

damn am I the last lasgun vet in atoma?

[mystic belfry]

Dagger can dodge fast and far enoug hthat with heavy sprints you can hit the weakpoint when you have aggro

[mystic belfry]

Yeah, knife is better

[topaz lance]

remove those nodes, they're useless

[empty heron]

Retired my lasguns after testing IAGs

[sleek cairn]

all vets shall gravitate to revolver in due time

[mystic belfry]

Sword

Dagger

[empty heron]

This

[mystic belfry]

Dagger also have very quick movement with holding heavies

[empty heron]

Same with zealots and psykers even

[sleek cairn]

psyker might be columnus tho

[mystic belfry]

Las pistols and plasma too

[sleek cairn]

to be fair psyker is better at guns than we are

[nimble sentinel]

damage on the Ia and IV got buffed I'm clearing hordes and killing specials without having to smell the hordes

[dusk idol]

but but but my exec stance

[empty heron]

I've heard people say this a couple of times now. What makes it so?

[umbral scaffold]

"Smoke is useless"

[sleek cairn]

that's why in this meta vets shouldnt make guns their thing. Psyker is just gonna make u feel sad using the very same columnus

[sleek cairn]

have u seen a gun psyker in ur run

[empty heron]

Well. You usually don't have infinate smokes though

[rugged portal]

Then just don't play vets. Every other class is more fun and does what we do better.

[dusk idol]

if i had that many shredders they'd be dead

[nimble sentinel]

I actually haven't I only see palpatine staves

[empty heron]

Almost never. I have 1 friend who uses it but he's terrible

[sleek cairn]

oh that answers that haha

no really i thought gun psyker was the hottest trend atm

[empty heron]

Yes I've heard the same. Just don't understand why

Apart from this. And Scryer's gaze maybe

[tardy vigil]

its a fun build, but if you're playing the magic man, most people gravitate towards the magic stuff you know?

[bronze atlas]

Gun psyker is good if you're an actual headshot machine but that's not super tough in this game

[nimble sentinel]

Atoma can take my lasgun from my cold dead pox rotten hands

the hive will break before I do

[bronze atlas]

Click heads get rewarded with being better at clicking heads

[empty heron]

Is it a crit thing?

[dusk idol]

gun psykers avoid ranged attacks in their kit, their gun psyker ability also gives them blazing piety's level of crit as well as damage which lasts however long they edge themselves to 100% peril + 10 seconds after

[sleek cairn]

it's something u have to see. Gun psyker i mean, their damage, boss dmg and efficiency in handling hordes. we can't top that.

[bronze atlas]

Crit + finesse + power iirc

[empty heron]

ahh

[dusk idol]

they also get 5% toughness everytime they crit

[rugged portal]

I've played a bit of gun paymer and, yeah, the dmg is nuts.

[dusk idol]

they actually have 5 decent toughness regen nodes all at the beginning

[empty heron]

oh fuck

I'm starting to see it now

[sleek cairn]

we can't even reach half a gun psyker's damage as gun vet. so u really dont wanna compete them in that route

being dead serious for once

[bronze atlas]

Also you can use the peril toughness nodes because your peril is still going up and down

[sleek cairn]

just play gun vet for fun but not to out compete a gun psyker lol

[tardy vigil]

tbf we should also be getting 15% for just headshot kills, but bugged node lmao

[bronze atlas]

Vet is for glorious power sword

[sleek cairn]

Vet has very good melee tho

[dusk idol]

lmao fatshark moment

[sleek cairn]

backwards game right? Vet melee, Gun psyker

shits all backwards but here we are

Anniversary update

surprise!

[nimble sentinel]

I love having no dodges and pressing a button before I can do actual damage

[mystic belfry]

Gun psyker roughly iirc

[bronze atlas]

I play the same build as a gun psyker but i use my sword instead exclusively because im no coward

[rugged portal]

Yep. It works.

[empty heron]

Interesting! Brain burst for crushers?

[dusk idol]

you can also go down the assail route too, it all works

you just need deimos or duelling sword for chonk targets

[mystic belfry]

yeah, and also you melee and ranged attacks can randomaly brain burst things

[dusk idol]

oh yeah

[bronze atlas]

I prefer assail, brain burst is so slow

[empty heron]

wtf

[sleek cairn]

if we can make it so gun psyker better than vet, melee vet better than zealot and zealot better than ogryn. Ogryn better magic than psyker.
We can come full circle in true fatshark fashion.

[bronze atlas]

Feels way slower than the olden days

[dusk idol]

psykers have a 10% chance to proc brainburst upon doing any kind of damage

[empty heron]

jesus christ

This I have to test

[dusk idol]

so it's a 10% chance aat 1k damage on whatever you're shooting so long as you're not at max peril

[flint garden]

brain burst a poxwalker every 15 seconds pretty op

[dusk idol]

think it has a little cd aas well

[mystic belfry]

15 second cooldown

It can be wasted on trash, to realize

But it's free damage basically

And it ignites stuff

[flint garden]

itd be good if it was limited to specials and elites

[sleek cairn]

free scoreboard dmg ****

[dusk idol]

it's like veteran's grenade 20% talent

except nothing at all like it

[mystic belfry]

You get free burn AoE too

[brazen cradle]

What I go for a vet with the lasgun ?

[dusk idol]

because it will literally cost you nothing to proc

not even peril

you just have to do some form of damage

[mystic belfry]

yep

[sleek cairn]

the free aoe burn is crazy

[bronze atlas]

I think the odds that you brainburst something you're not going to kill within the next few frames is minimal

[sleek cairn]

vets can't just shoot an enemy and do splash AoE dmg. but gun psyker can

[wise bridge]

anyone have an opinion on Competitive Urge vs Bring it Down! ?

[karmic musk]

Poxwalker jumps infront of Elite to tank the Brainburst

[mystic belfry]

Perfect

[dusk idol]

the amount of times i've procced brainburst doing the force sword push

is ridiculous

[mystic belfry]

They should tune that talent up though, it's worth for only one point, but it's silly that it works on trash

[wise bridge]

this one is insane cause the burn stacks dont have a cap unlike your other application sources besides venting shriek (which you can only add 6 stacks with). if you already have high burn stacks going it goes completely wild and annihilates everything in the radius

[mystic belfry]

Also, you can run crit aura instead of cooldown aura

[tardy vigil]

If you need help reaching crusher breakpoints, bring it down is nice, otherwise it just helps kill bosses faster. Competitive urge is a meme, but has high uptime in practice

[mystic belfry]

But cooldown helps team more imo

[karmic musk]

Why go Brain Rupture on Gun Psyker tho, I rather Assail since thats the "ammo" blitz

[mystic belfry]

because gun

[bronze atlas]

I made an extra psyker for melk reasons and base brainburst feels unusable rn lol

[sleek cairn]

fk that, Columnus Psyker

[dusk idol]

it's an old shredder build thing that still kinda works

[mystic belfry]

Duel sword and a gun of choice

Las pistol, columnus, whatever

[dusk idol]

but you could go either route

[tardy vigil]

the real reason you should be asking, is that do you really need a 2.5% of extra 20% damage against specials/elites to make your breakpoint

[dusk idol]

pick up a gun and a duelling sword and scriers gaze and gun psyker is just very nice

[brazen cradle]

What I go for a vet with the lasgun ?

[sleek cairn]

scoreboard padders take this

[dusk idol]

which las?

[wise bridge]

so bring it down better for monstrous specialists? i mean its not 2.5% of 20% its just just 1/40 enemies will give you 8s uptime of 20% afaik so as long as roughly 40 enemies die in range every 8s?

[nimble sentinel]

#veteran-class message

my team ate shit but it was a lot of fun

[sharp ember]

never trust a witch

[sleek cairn]

y not

wut they do to u huh

[mystic belfry]

Also, Psyker has a talent that encourages them to let you die

[chilly cobalt]

WITCH,YOU MUST KEEP UP

[mystic belfry]

lol

[sleek cairn]

actually thats a good argument to not trust a witch

[chilly cobalt]

MALEFIC THREAT SIGHTED

[tardy vigil]

Bring it down is always active, and yes, CU is a 2.5% chance to gain 20% damage for 8s. so ask yourself, do you need that extra 20% damage every 1/40 enemies when you can ensure 20% extra damage against the more tanky enemies you'll encounter

[brazen cradle]

The slow lasgun very long but not the Lucius I don't remember the name maybe kantrael I think ?

[chilly cobalt]

DAEMONHOST

[sleek cairn]

Now u know why they hit the barrel beside u and made u fall into the abyss

[mystic belfry]

Thunder hammer time

[dusk idol]

someone help

i'm not a lasgun user

[thick kestrel]

mg12?

[mystic belfry]

needed to top off their toughness

[sleek cairn]

why did the psyker blow the pox beside u? To replenish 50% toughness of course.

[dusk idol]

prob mg12

[vestal minnow]

what should i change for this iyo? https://i.imgur.com/iS6tdFW.png