veteran-class

[sharp ember]

oof

[wanton dawn]

Going for push when you don't have too is also pressuring your team. Like if everyone already shooting in general buster direction, don't go pushing

So yeah, buster is a special case

Buster can come in sparse group

[old quail]

i have ptsd from when bursters wouldnt det each other

and if u had a conga line ur choices were shoot or find a random guy to eat all the explosions

[wanton dawn]

Sound mix is fked this patch too

[delicate moat]

burster trains are the most fun

[old quail]

that shit was so cancer

u were basically guaranteed to get detted on at least once per game in auric

[wanton dawn]

It was never not funny to see someone get instagibbed going for push

[old quail]

i would regularly sacrifice overconfident pub players to the bursters

[wanton dawn]

They chose to be stoopid

[old quail]

better them than me

[wanton dawn]

"Please do not hit barrel"

[old quail]

my favorite wipe involving a barrel is this one time on one of the torrent maps

right at the start

barrel by a ledge, fighting enemies, ogryn staggers an enemy out of the arc of my caxe heavy

and i hit the ignited barrel

instantly sending 3 of us flying to our death

the remaining pub player could not clutch 😔

[wanton dawn]

The fkng disruption map with the 2 barrels between the spy station

The one where you upload false data

[old quail]

https://streamable.com/2w3xie

here it is

[wanton dawn]

There are often 2 terrible barrel between spy station on top of the stair

[lilac sonnet]

Hab dreyko barrels after the first section, at the trade quarters. <.>

[wanton dawn]

I always try to trigger them early but there is ALWAYS someone camping here

Always

[lilac sonnet]

Hey a barrel flies off the map into the trade quarter

[wanton dawn]

Also the fire barrel in the radar mission, middle event ?

[old quail]

somewhat convinced he was a paid actor

its too perfect

[wanton dawn]

I need a tier list of worse barrel position

[acoustic wyvern]

any idea what this means?

the !

[wanton dawn]

If only mission had easy way to identify them... like name that are not DELTA BRANCH X11356

[hallow moat]

Is the vraks any good?

[south prairie]

I heard vraks 7 is top tier but its not for me

[wanton dawn]

So lets see: hab dreyko, revolving door map, cryo map, hot smelter map, lasgun canister map..n

Ascension riser

[umbral flint]

so i have an issue, with the keystones coming for vet, howi s this going to wrok? will i still be more or less the same or do i have to sacrfice more? because one of my builds is already stretched and if the keystones dont replace a few then im fucked

[wanton dawn]

I want more roughness on top

I tried smoke the other day

[umbral flint]

because this is my build as of now

[wanton dawn]

It was smth i guess

[umbral flint]

i like smoke

[novel nimbus]

I hope the vet changes aren't garbage, I've been enjoying my build so far and don't want it mucked up

[umbral flint]

with the buffs it got we're pretty solid

[wanton dawn]

I know obama, i know

[dark echo]

What blessing should I change here?

[umbral flint]

my build hinges on that crit perk to the left and the bottom one

[novel nimbus]

I'd argue they're pretty good as is tbh

[umbral flint]

change speed load to fire frenzy

[wanton dawn]

Well, it took a while to make something good out of vet tree. And a full patch

[dark echo]

Wait, I already had this, idk why I spent melk bucks on it

[wanton dawn]

But there are still very, very poor stuff in it

[dark echo]

The inventory management is garbage, that's why

[novel nimbus]

What's wrong with having TWO of the same good gun?

Post both of them in screenshots to tease people who get bad rng

[wanton dawn]

What, you don't like sorting by alphabetical order ?

Not as if you gained weapon every game

O wait

I guess no one need a way to identify its main weapon

[junior needle]

Does anyone know the mod to put peoples steamid next to their name in the text chat?

I saw a youtuber with it in a video

[wanton dawn]

I have it but i dunno which one it is

[dapper vessel]

Hmmm

They should buff the mark 3's push attack

Buff the adm against Carapace and Unyielding

Spamming heavies will still be something

[wanton dawn]

Chainaxe could use some luv

[dapper vessel]

But the push attack can be chained for an L1 for quick single target deletion

[wanton dawn]

But it appear chainaxe is cursed to be memetic

[dapper vessel]

Reddit was right all along for the revolver meta

[wanton dawn]

Revolver got what, 3-4 buff patch ?

If you buff enough even a meme end up being meta

[dapper vessel]

Pre patch 13 revolver was decent

But it's not something that's recommended to use

And it got horrible ttk

[wanton dawn]

I mean, is kinda heavy handed when it comes to "balancing"

[fathom edge]

full auto changes the game

shoulda done this forever ago

[dapper vessel]

I don't use full auto mod

Really because I just got used to do tap firing in most fps games

[fathom edge]

makes stuff like mg4 usable

and fun

[wanton dawn]

Lets nerf pinning fire > 20% to 5%. Lets buff plasma > 4 to 100. Lets buff voc > -33% cd, 50% duration, 100% effect

[frank ether]

yes

[wanton dawn]

I reach 500 yesterday with 2 vet

By myself 400

[halcyon pivot]

m35 gameplay

[wanton dawn]

I got it on muties event

They sometimes fall in same place, mostly immobile. Easier to kill in melee group

Dog goes all over the place its annoying

[strange grove]

wooooo

only needs cavalcade moved to surgical

maybe upgrade the maniac to 4

[gusty bison]

Also swap shattering to pinning fire

Cav to surgical, shattering to pinning

Atm shattering isnt that good on bolter

Pinning is still 25% power

[serene sage]

Pinning Fire > Surgical

Unless you go VF, I think Pinning Shattering are still BiS

Surgical doesn't feel that good to me and I play a lot of Bolter

[fallen geyser]

I can't decide whether to buy this from Melk or not

[delicate moat]

looks like a brick, smells like a brick

unless u need the blessings i'd say skip this one

[fallen geyser]

fairy nuff

[true bramble]

Finally power cycler IV

Mobility can be a bit higher but not bad for a horde clearing weapon

And my plasma gun

[gusty bison]

Shattering does basically nothing for a bolter right now

Except vs cara

And even then its... not much

[true bramble]

Shattering reduced the armor of the enemy for the WHOLE team

[gusty bison]

Cos u 2 shot them either way. With or without shattering

[gusty bison]

I mean.

Yes the thing. That is now dead in the ground

[true bramble]

For plasma is great because i can penetrate multiple crushers, maulers etc and stack that debuff on everyone that did not die

[gusty bison]

Bolter murders everything short of a boss in a few rounds

Bolter also has the thing of doing 100% damage to basically every armor type across all ranges (except carapace)

So rending loses a LOT of value

[true bramble]

I dont use bolter honestly, its like what is the point when i have plasma which does better job anways

[gusty bison]

Precision rapid take downs

That u dont need headshots for

Also better ammo eff

[true bramble]

faster pull up, huge ammo clip, knocks down ragers, crushers maulers if they are not dead, aaaaand the ability to shoot trough people and through walls and light cover what more to ask lol

[gusty sonnet]

Well bolter magdumps way better

[true bramble]

i just move behind my ogryn and blast away

[gusty bison]

Basically plasma is better if things are lined up

Bolter is better when things are spread out

[gusty bison]

Tbf they both suck at magdumping atm

[true bramble]

people underestimate the ability to shoot through friendlies and walls, see a sniper? i dont even bother to see if he is hidden i shoot with the plasma and most of the time its a kill because sniper was hiding behind light cover

[gusty sonnet]

Plasma def better for MLG montage 😎

[true bramble]

plus even if you shoot it at 100% game stops you now for 1-2 times as to not blow up

[gusty bison]

Its two different weapons. Very hard to compare

Its like saying what is better. A headhunter or a braced autogun

[true bramble]

Ah lets not compare any gun then because they are all different....

[gusty sonnet]

Ngl i kinda hate that we have hidden percentages

[gusty bison]

I mean as I said. Have a spread out concave of gunners and bolter will sing

[true bramble]

I am not denying that

[gusty bison]

Have a line of ragers down a narrow corridor and plasma will do well

[true bramble]

I just think that overall in MOST situations plasma preforms better

[gusty bison]

Eh

Spread out enemies is very common in larger rooms

As is clumped up in corridors

[true bramble]

for example, there is a horde on your ass? then you see 4 maulers comming at you, i can just pull out my plasma since its fast and blast away

[gusty bison]

Both situations come up a lot

[true bramble]

bolter pul up is very slow

[gusty bison]

Its fine

Its helbore levels

And helbore is perfectly capable of shooting while in a horde

And Bolter isnt as aim intensive as helbore

[vivid ocean]

is the only way to get cycler 4 to enhance to yellow?

or melkbucks?

[true bramble]

no

@vivid ocean what i did is this because its cheaper

[vivid ocean]

havent gotten a single 4 blessing from my blue spams

[gusty bison]

More likely , but going to blue can get PC 4

[true bramble]

Buy a white power sword, get it to blue, and repeat

[vivid ocean]

been doing that for this whole week

[true bramble]

I gfot it after 15 tries

[vivid ocean]

had a one day break to get hand cannon on zeal revolver

[midnight mortar]

Took me 325 hours of playtime.

And I was focusing on powerswords for the majority of that time too.

[halcyon pivot]

dc when extract

[vivid ocean]

man

[halcyon pivot]

...

[true bramble]

Me just 15 tries, a week

[halcyon pivot]

pien

[midnight mortar]

Welcome to Fatshark's slot machine.

[vivid ocean]

i hate this fuckin grind

[true bramble]

But yeah

[midnight mortar]

Don't think they want anything other than your user engagement metrics and money.

[halcyon pivot]

obese shark

[midnight mortar]

Rotund megalodon.

[true bramble]

It goes beoyond logic though, for example i have great weapons now right? But i want to try something new, but all my other weapons are weak so that means i gota struggle in order to play with my other toys because of RNG? So what do i do instead, shut down the game and play smt else, then come back play few games on my character with my upgraded weapons (since other weapons are shit) and then quit again

If i had MORE TOOLs to chose and better weapons, i would switch all the time and the game will be more fun

i play this game to have fun not to play rng crafting simulator

I will play the game 2x more if i have 4 different upgraded melee weapons and 4 different upgraded range weapons of my own choosing

[pine plume]

I don't think anyone is gonna argue in defence of the crafting system

[urban steppe]

is dis good to buy ?

[true bramble]

No

too low finesse

if you gota have dumb stat rather make it low mobility then finesse

[urban steppe]

ok

[midnight mortar]

Yep. But remember that the game spent 9 months with an average player count of 2.5k or so. And to Fatshark that was a-okay.

They are perfectly fine with that bottom line.

[true bramble]

Mobility is only spring distance and dodge range, which is not a big deal, since you still have same dodges as 50% mobility as 80%

[true bramble]

Which is weird to me

[acoustic wyvern]

eh

wait

wc

[midnight mortar]

There could be more players. But what they have is already enough to meet their minimum.

Any extra is just icing.

That's what I'd infer from that period of time.

And now with console players enticed, they're already set financially.

[sterile garnet]

after 1200 hours between psyker and zealot, i rolled a vet

got power cycler 4 in 2 or 3 rolls

and got this bolter in 5 or so rolls

really lucky

[gusty bison]

VT2 runs on those numbers

For years

[night belfry]

just got this promising autopistol from melk.. is powderburn good now or?

[trim hemlock]

It's decent, but its use case is different from that of say BA + Pinning Fire

And these two blessings have more generic use case - just fire

[night belfry]

I was considering Powderburn + Inspiring Barrage IV because free toughness good

[trim hemlock]

Whereas Powderburn is mostly relevant against suppressed targets (but it gives you a stronger suppression factor and reduces the recoil, so there's that) - notably, not all enemies can be suppressed, because some (like Maulers or Bruisers) are outright immune to it.

Powderburn Ius SAP might be good on a Stealth Vet, but even then an IAG will probably do better/be more flexible in other situations.

[faint blade]

Whats the dump-stat on the lucius mk3?

[night belfry]

Oh yeah I planned to give this a spin on my melee infiltrate build. Currently running a Columnus MkV on it

[trim hemlock]

Does Shredder have access to Raking Fire?

[trim hemlock]

Stability, probably.

Ammo is not super important either, but it's nice to have it high

[old quail]

yup

iirc

the problem with powderburn is that most melee enemies just have absolutely no suppressed state

[trim hemlock]

Oh yeah, I just checked, it does.

[old quail]

which is unfortunate and it should probs do something like slow them down a lil

[trim hemlock]

That certainly would be nice

Also, I made this today

I wonder if Supercharge does anything even remotely useful for the PS

[strange grove]

Well I fucked up that bolter that I got, but having too much fun with this to care

[night belfry]

Power Cycler IV my beloved

[untold mulch]

If tou melee a boss?

[trim hemlock]

Crit damage perk is a little yikes, but it's a good Vraks 7

[trim hemlock]

Well, yeah, maybe

[novel nimbus]

So is the grenade talent making you immune to stun bug gonna be fixed with the veteran update?

[trim hemlock]

We don't know, really

[strange grove]

i forget what the other perk was that I replaced, but it was much worse

[novel nimbus]

I've been taking full advantage of the bug and will be sad to see it go. XD

[untold hull]

second Veteran to reach lvl 30

[novel nimbus]

Sweet penance drip

[untold hull]

I thought I bought it from a store at some point lol

explains why it looks good

[acoustic wyvern]

looks like he has those forest mushroom they say taste like chicken for a beard

[late hatch]

I like to call them my thigh ticklers

[night belfry]

Looking at my options for autopistol blessings - am I correct in the understanding that Powderburn is difficult to get value out of because you can't really suppress melee units, but Pinning Fire is great because most things are easily staggered?

& that Raking Fire is a bit of a meme outside of boss fights

[late hatch]

suppression is really strong. getting gunned down by a squad of shooters and getting staggered to death from the chips is a real thing. powderburn works well. pinning fire got nerfed a lot so its still good but not mandatory imo.
raking is for more flanker playstyle.
what you find best on a weap will depend on how you play.
do you stay tight with squad and shoot down everything?
do you pref melee and only switch to ranged when you have to? etc

[night belfry]

In my case its in the context of a melee-focused Infiltrate build with a 3am cat zoomies problem

[grizzled pebble]

Me waiting for rework so vet become as op as pre 13.

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-hand-rub-gif-4550607172171818262

[south spindle]

Lets hope the balance isnt that fuckin goofed

There are enough balance issues across Ogg an Psyker already

[grizzled pebble]

Instant reload keystone or something.

[late hatch]

with infiltrate you will likely get better value out of raking fire if you can position well and not die trying to get flanks.
imo you want to focus on maniacs with your ranged weapon for that kind of build. so maniac and either crit, flak, or possibly unyeilding. then take what blessings you feel work best. suppression is great, are you taking it in the skill tree too?

[grizzled pebble]

Press f on any ability chosen and get ammo + bonus damage for x seconds.

[iron marten]

pre patch 13 bolter my beloved

[grizzled pebble]

-6s on ability with every special killed btw.

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah I haven't touched bolter ever since they removed sustained fire.

[iron marten]

it's still fine now

it was just funny af before the pinning fire nerfs and sustained fire

[gaunt delta]

Your loss then; Bolter still feels awesome (I’m a Malice prisoner tho)

[late hatch]

bolter is fine, middle of the pack, after being super strong for ages

[grizzled pebble]

I am a noob so I need my 30 rounds of boltgun spam.

[late hatch]

tbh anything works fine on malice

[gaunt delta]

Become the opposite of Dirty Harry, count your shots and reload on the 1

[late hatch]

its when you move up to damnation breakpoints and enemy numbers you need to kill things fast and efficiently

[gaunt delta]

True 😔

[grizzled pebble]

Sustain fire my beloved
#veteran-class message

[late hatch]

once you start getting comfy and getting some nice rolled weaps I really rec trying out heresy then damnation. matchmaking can be a bit wonky. but i love the challenge. normal damnation is what i play when im feeling lazy, aurics are lots of fun

heresy is a nice midpoint with the HP numbers of damnation but much lower agro to give you a chance to get used to it

[iron marten]

hope to see you on damnation soon!

[gaunt delta]

Im slowly pushing into Heresy, on the days I’m not hitting the amasec

All I will say is that Drunktide hits different

[late hatch]

what weaps are you running atm?

[south spindle]

Personally i play better when plastered

[wind gate]

is there a mod for accuracy by anychance out there?

[gaunt delta]

Got loads. Gimme a minute to get dressed & coffee & fire up the battlebox

But I’ve been playing on and off since beta

[south spindle]

Are you asking if there is a mod for aimbot?

[wind gate]

no

weapon accuracy xD

[gaunt delta]

There’s mods that add red dot sights to everything

[south spindle]

No, the guns are as they are

[wind gate]

I mean, i want to know how many bullets land the entire game (shot accuracy)

like a scoreboard thing

[south spindle]

You can get the extended weap' customization mod, but other than them letting you add basic sights, there is nothing out there that would effect accuracy that wouldnt be considered cheating

[wind gate]

i dont mean aimbotting ffs

[south spindle]

Oh right, check nexus. There are a number of plugins for the scoreboard, might find summat

[gaunt delta]

Oh. Probably a plugin mod for the scoreboard mod. If it exists

[late hatch]

there is a scoreboard extension mod that tracks crit rate and weakspot rate for melee and ranged but i dont think it tracks total shot acc

[gaunt delta]

I haven’t heard of that exact feature as a plugin. But the modding Discord is where to start looking or asking for it:

#📌communities message

[wind gate]

ty sexy people

i truly appreciate your time ❤️

[night belfry]

I tend not to actively try to flank much except against bosses and even then I prefer to get silly with krak+melee. I mostly use Infiltrate for turning off aggro during revives, toughness recovery and the damage buffs and I usually deal with most nearby specials except trappers with melee anyway

[brisk sapphire]

to the bottom wow

[late hatch]

most people stop at trench fighter level

[acoustic wyvern]

if he has enough talent points why not

[south spindle]

The extra close damage from that capstone is very strong, but because its tied to ability use the uptime isnt really fuck all over the course of a mission

[night belfry]

I'm a melee goblin

[late hatch]

i personally dont feel the keystones are worth it, though they did get a slight boost when VoC CD got a huge buff

[south spindle]

They're stand-ins anyway it would seem, so no harm no foul, if it works for you, it works

[terse shell]

slaughterer IV good on power sword?

[south spindle]

Things might change drastically depending on what they do with the new update for the tree

[night belfry]

all that to say, the autopistol would mainly be a supplement for my power sword I think (this build also has ~220 toughness with curios)

[south spindle]

Laspistol > Autopistol imo

Autopistol still works, but its nowhere near as good as the Laspistol

Particularly given you're taking Onslaught which will get stacked basically for free if you roll Infernus on said Laspistol

[late hatch]

laspistol is S tier atm for sure. if you can shoot heads it is incredibly ammo efficient, and can do pretty crazy boss dps

handles everything pretty well even crusher packs

[wanton dawn]

Did not try the laspistol yet. Definitely not S tier in popularity

[south spindle]

Weirdly

[wanton dawn]

The gun I see the most is the revolver

[south spindle]

Idk why people are sleeping on it, its competative with the best of the best

Revolver is in its own league at the minute for sure

[brisk sapphire]

strange comparison. shredder more comparable to columnus infantry auto

[south spindle]

But unlike previous OP weapons of old, it actually makes some kinda sense for the Revolver to be very strong because long reload

[wanton dawn]

There is a LOT of good gun in vet arsenal rn

I don't think laspistol is particularly noteworthy in that regard

[south spindle]

Play a few games with it, its up there with the best now

Like comparable to how MKXII used to be, only with a much faster firerate and better crit chance

[dapper vessel]

nah

its Rampage now

or brutal momentum

[brisk sapphire]

rampage prolly gonna get patched tho

[dapper vessel]

it will be

[brisk sapphire]

and itll be a sad day for my claw

[dapper vessel]

its still a 36% power increase

still good

[south spindle]

Yeah Catachan Swords will still be ace

[midnight patrol]

What is wrong with rampage?

[frank saffron]

The commissar told me my columnus was too small, but i told her its meta now

[wooden oar]

Rampage does more damage then intended

[midnight patrol]

How much more?

[wooden oar]

Not sure about the exact numbers. But I thought rampage gave it’s damage increase on activation like twice? Might be wrong tho

[tropic imp]

100% more iirc

[midnight patrol]

.. Huh

That sounds amazing lol

[south spindle]

Thats nothing, check out this midget

[frank saffron]

That sir is an average sized weapon of war

[frank saffron]

Did u use an accatran barrel to get it that short?

[midnight patrol]

Meanwhile I made this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610214433540669619/1172775316557672478/image.png?ex=65618b20&is=654f1620&hm=c09220e9d24c69fed636fd18b161aaeedc6bb8c0a677fa8be9e284b2bde83491&=

[frank saffron]

In game?

[midnight patrol]

Yuh

[frank saffron]

Da fuk whered u get the scope

[midnight patrol]

The mod has it

[frank saffron]

Oh shit fr since when

[shell dust]

How's this?

[frank saffron]

Tis alright if you hab nothing else

[digital gazelle]

shattering impact first, then pinning fire second weapon upgrade, pog

[shell dust]

I find it chews through armoured enemies really well

[midnight patrol]

Latest updoot

[frank saffron]

Would be better if u got flak on it

[frank saffron]

Oh cool is it on all the guns or just the vraks autoguns

[midnight patrol]

This one is my proper marksman rifle tho

[midnight patrol]

I haven't checked all of them yet alas

[digital gazelle]

locked sprint efficiency

[shell dust]

Ranged damage buff for elites is nothing to sniff at

[digital gazelle]

ffs

[frank saffron]

That fucking barrel lmao

[digital gazelle]

also is this a good pairing with the bolter?

[midnight patrol]

TBF, its a bolter, you'll probably have situations where you gotta lug that boi when runnning about than wait 1.5 seconds for a weapon switch

Although it feels like 2 full seconds at times.

[shell dust]

Why I shifted to autoguns

[digital gazelle]

Its meant to be a boss melter bolter tbf

but I can one shot most enemies and a could for anything chunky

[frank saffron]

Brought to u by saint Kalashnikov

[shell dust]

It's the amount of ammo that is the issue

[midnight patrol]

Hits like a SVD too!

[frank saffron]

Man i believe that I gotta dress up my vraks

[midnight patrol]

On Heresy it one taps any hooman sized enemy except Maulers

[frank saffron]

U got a god roll?

[midnight patrol]

Although with my crit build at full tilt it'll three tap Maulers so that's hilarious

A bit less forgiving on Damnation, but still. I can deal with one head one body for specials and some of the heavier elites

[frank saffron]

Ow damn almost a perfect roll ok those stats

[midnight patrol]

Yuh

Its good enough for snipin

[frank saffron]

So u run a sharpshooter build with this?

[midnight patrol]

Mhmm. Leaning a bit into middle tree with Bring it down and Superiority complex

[astral blade]

am i inproving as a vet?

[midnight patrol]

Pushes pasta few breakpoints

[frank saffron]

I find running sharpshooter vet in damnation hard in general tbh

[midnight patrol]

Yeah you need good add clearer Psykers

Then you're free to slaughter anything carrying a gun

Also have this Helbore

[astral blade]

fellas am i improving as a vet?

[midnight patrol]

Shame that my playstyle doesnt work well with it.

[midnight patrol]

You Hound?

[astral blade]

no Callum

[frank saffron]

Oo very nice, u should give the mk8 infantry auto a go

I find ive been wrecking with it in damnation

Also ofcourse the mk5 columnus infantry

[midnight patrol]

I really could not like the automatics.

Doesn't have the point and click adventure the Vraks can pull off

[frank ether]

Idk why they keep buffing it

[frank saffron]

Yeah but the amount of lead you can pore accurately is super fun man

I think they buffed the recoil and damage on them

Feel so good

[frank ether]

why unarmored tho

[midnight patrol]

Breakpoints!

[frank ether]

why not maniac

oh

ok

I'm more of a mark 3 user

didnt notice thats mark 1

[midnight patrol]

Allows you to one tap some of the unarmored shooters in the chest

Which enables you to very rapidly clear out an entire room

[frank ether]

oh chest shots

I dont really go for those

[midnight patrol]

Your ogryn's will pet you for it

I like pets.

[south spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-death-animation-kill-animation-doom-kill-animation-gif-25279778

Getting a head pat from an Ogryn would be like this;

[frank saffron]

sadly this is the only vraks ive gotten so far

[south spindle]

Nothin wrong with that pal

Roll it up

[frank saffron]

i havent really tested this one but i have spent sometime on the semi auto one

[wanton dawn]

Nurgle blessed monstro is no longer the hardest maelstrom I feel rn

On vet at least

[south spindle]

A lot of people dont like it, but i feel like its an AN-94

Fun gun

[frank saffron]

huh when you put it that way

[astral blade]

ya know its kinda funny my dumbass has learnt to keep up with pc players yet here i am using a controller on pc

[south spindle]

Good to play, misses a few breakpoints vs the other two, but yeah

[astral blade]

heresy?

or not heresy?

[frank saffron]

What perks should i roll for

[south spindle]

I mean.. i wouldnt play with a pad myself, but more power to you if you're decent on it

[south spindle]

Flak/Maniac

[frank saffron]

Ah i meant blessings my bad

[south spindle]

Unarmoured isnt a dead perk tho so dont worry if you get stuck with it

Ah reet, Deadly Accurate + Headhunter/Surgical

I prefer Headhunter over Surgical myself, but thats mostly because i have no patience when it comes to holding my shots

[frank ledge]

I will run reload speed

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[frank saffron]

Ayt nice ill try for those

[carmine solstice]

shoots one bullet, lets reload

[short nacelle]

The agripinaa shotgun, is it just me or does the normal fire feel like hot garbage to use

[south spindle]

Revolver gameplay

[rigid pilot]

does the scope actually work?

[south spindle]

If you're not aiming for heads it is, its very much a headshot-only weapon

[rigid pilot]

fug wrong reply

[short nacelle]

Ah is it just headshots? Bit saddening on a shotgun but ah well, I'll give it a try aiming for heads mostly

[south spindle]

Just the niche it fills im afraid, Lawbringer is a little bit more forgiving, an Kantreal doesnt give a fuck where you shoot something

Ofc headshots are always gonna be more damage, but the Agri' needs it a lot more than the others

[short nacelle]

Yeahhh it just felt horrible having to unload 4 or 5 shells into a mutant to get it dead

[wanton dawn]

I don't like weakspot fishing weapon

agri shotgun is the weakspot fishing shotgun. It is arguably a worse revolver

[carmine solstice]

tbh old plasma when venting was health damage and you had to reload fast

[kind scarab]

Waiting on the update un-patiently so I can begin to break shit once again

[midnight patrol]

That moment that chosing to bring a Helbore cost the game.

The switch time was just too much.

[south spindle]

also yes

[south spindle]

In some ways most certainly, but its still fun to play

Tbh, most things are pretty entertaining even if they're not amazing

[languid escarp]

The incendiary shotgun is pretty fun

[carmine solstice]

i need to try that gun still

[calm vine]

MKIII power sword power cycler + slaughtere or energizer? what perks?

[scarlet smelt]

which

[tropic tide]

Does any1 use the extended weapon customization mod?

[carmine solstice]

anybody know anything about the veteran keystones?

[autumn perch]

Yes

They are coming

That is all

[languid escarp]

I like savage sweep for the cleave

[fathom grail]

Didn’t we have a nerd looking into the datamine for it

[carmine solstice]

no idea

i just wanna know if they specialize into weapon types or nah

cause i think thay would be the best

[fathom grail]

Im expecting it to be small and dumb

Like a delay Toughness

[calm vine]

i dont have savage sweep, i guess ill just wait for that blessing to pop up

[fathom grail]

Or bomber’s grenade reduction -3%

Lowers flamer’s kick damage 10%

Huuuuge

[south spindle]

Nope, but im kinda happy with it being a surprise

[languid escarp]

Is there any visible clue to differentiate between friendly fire area and environment’s fire area?

[south spindle]

Zealot fire is yellower

As for Flamer, not really, other than it coming from the barrel

And is, you know, not on the floor

[languid escarp]

I can differentiate Flamer

Flamer fire is higher

[fathom grail]

They should’ve made the zealot’s white and call it “holy flame”

At least it’ll be easier to tell

[vagrant narwhal]

which blessing should I change for power cycler??

[south spindle]

That would have been pretty neat tbh

It certainly isnt all that obvious at a glace. Often have fire go off under my feet an freak out for a second

[spark arrow]

theyre both useful but id rather have rampage

[languid escarp]

Rampage I think

Idk

[south spindle]

Swap Wrath out

Keep Rampage

[still pollen]

worth getting?

[south spindle]

If you dont already have PC4 yes (and if its not gonna make you skint)

[languid escarp]

Do you have PC IV?

[vagrant narwhal]

how can you see this??

[still pollen]

no

[vagrant narwhal]

aight thanks

[karmic musk]

He is hacking, Power Cycler 4 doesnt exist!!!

[south spindle]

Its a mod mate

[karmic musk]

[languid escarp]

Get it and redeem the blessing

[fathom grail]

Get it the power cycler t4 alone is worth it

[still pollen]

ok

[languid escarp]

Actually just use it as is

[vagrant narwhal]

ah thought so thanks

[south spindle]

No worries, installs are super easy if you're on the PC platform

[south spindle]

Nahh, deffo pull off the blessing an roll a better one

[short nacelle]

cannot stomach the agri shotgun my god

[south spindle]

Perks are scuffed on that

[languid escarp]

I mean use it for now

[south spindle]

Ehh, i wouldnt

[languid escarp]

How farmed are you? If you buy that and change the perks it’s almost optimal

[still pollen]

what perks should I get? should I keep the Wrath blessing?

[south spindle]

Been playing since release lol

Before even, beta

[fathom grail]

Yknow I hope a keystone give us the ability to take 10% of ammo whenever a teammate picks up ammo

[south spindle]

Sure, if they're gonna remove Scavenger

[fathom grail]

25%

[south spindle]

(Which they should)

[fathom grail]

We take 50% of their ammo

[south spindle]

10% would be fine

An would still be a net positive over Scavenger, it just wouldnt break other classes

If anything, it would be a far better way of going about it than the current iteration

[fathom grail]

“Oh damn it we got two ammo stealing vets”

[languid escarp]

Wrath blessing is fine. Change the perks to bonus vs flak/carapace armored

[south spindle]

Maniac instead of Carapace

An Wrath is kinda dogass because PSword already has access to really high cleave

[south spindle]

Yeah.. it wouldnt matter for the Vet player so much if someone was taking all the ammo

10% of whatever they pick up, even if it was coherency tied, would be strong as fuck

[fathom grail]

I just picture a 0 ammo ogryn picking up a big ammo bag then realize there’s 3 ammo stealing vets

“Boss get your own”

[south spindle]

Nah dont have it directly steal ammo from the bag, just give a comparable 10% of it for no cost to teammates

[fathom grail]

Next keystone should increase smoke grenade duration and make it darker

Also make it so people can’t tag through the smoke

[south spindle]

the first one was a good idea, why'd you have to go an ruin it

[languid escarp]

New update Vet’s Scavenger will be reworked to auto magnetize and pickup ammo boxes 🤗

[south spindle]

Legit tho, i am starting to find uses for smokes more i play with em

Exe' and the node that gives teammates the highlight is a really good combo for smokes

[fathom grail]

Delete scavenger but make vet have huge area ammo magnet

30m

[languid escarp]

If there is 2 vet with scavenger they enter a mini game everytime they both get into a ammo box range

[fathom grail]

Rock paper scissor

Then ogryn throws box at both of them

[sharp ember]

i would like to try this if it didn't ask you to zigzag across the tree to get both

[south spindle]

Yeah its costly, but it can be pretty strong

[sharp ember]

shredder grenades are still a lovely complement to most exe stance setups

[south spindle]

They really need to make smokes shut down snipers tho

[sharp ember]

for sure

[south spindle]

Oh yeah nah i agree, Shredder nades are great

[sharp ember]

got a whole list of extra stuff it should do lol

fast throw, fast detonate, work against snipers, snuff fires

[south spindle]

Lmao, a bit more would be nice, but that sniper thing is the biggest change they could make to keep it competative with other options

Snuffing out fires tho.. that would be fuckin dope

Real utility if it were to do that

[kind scarab]

Based on the little screencap of the capstones images, we probably will to some degree

[livid warren]

Started a zealot because I reached lvl 30 on my vet, but honestly miss the vet class

[sharp ember]

shutting down existing flamer puddles and countering bomber spam would be a dream

[kind scarab]

Make yourself a zealot thunderhammer + revolver build

[south spindle]

Particularly for bombers 100%

[kind scarab]

You're just a very angry veteran at that point

[south spindle]

There are more of em than ever now so a counter is due

[languid escarp]

Why dont they use white phosphorus for smoke bomb? Are they stupid

[gusty sonnet]

That hordeclears very badly

[sharp ember]

the only class i eagerly play besides vet is ogryn for their sheer bullying power

club slapped a chaos spawn to death the other match

[south spindle]

Not really at this point since they removed the target cap for Hammer

Hammer also has huge reach so you can clear mostly without taking chip

[quick burrow]

look what was hiding in the armoy, brunty you bastard

[gusty sonnet]

No, left Keystone appears to be headshot centric, middle is marking enemies (sounds annoying to play) and right side is "agile combat" (switch weapon a lot playstyle)

[fathom grail]

Marking enemy sound becomes louder

[kind scarab]

I've not had issues with hordeclear, since I run martyrdom

[south spindle]

Hopefully they stayed away from the certain weapon types thing

[kind scarab]

Nothing heavy swing don't get outta the way

[gusty sonnet]

So you play it like a PSword?

[fathom grail]

DING DING DING

[sharp ember]

my guess on middle keystones was team buffs for fighting in coherence

[south spindle]

You can do that with the Ironhelm because the charged attacks cleave enemies yeah, not on Crucis though because the powered attack is just for single target bonklage

Either way, when both unpowered, they can still clear way better than they could before

[kind scarab]

^

I used to refuse to use the thunderhammer cause it was just a worse version of saltzpyres in V2

[south spindle]

An tbh, they were never "bad" in a horde, just slow

Damage has always been good

[kind scarab]

Now I use the mk2 for single target boss damage and horde clear

[sharp ember]

kruber hammer my beloved

that and exe sword, but i didn't play long enough to reach any sort of endgame weapon meta

[kind scarab]

I honestly preferred the mace+sword combo myself

[gusty sonnet]

NGL i didnt touch the ironhelm (only Hammer i got) once I saw the new moveset 🤢

[autumn perch]

Oi

I made burger

Look

[kind scarab]

Single target hammer is easy

You heavy spam for horde clear

and power up heavy for single target bosses

ezpz

[autumn perch]

DOC LOOK AT MY FUCKING BURGER

[kind scarab]

Your buns look dry

[autumn perch]

Thank

[kind scarab]

Potatos look good tho

[woeful junco]

damn that made me hungry, looks good

[autumn perch]

Only 14.99 Hank

And I’ll make some for u

[halcyon owl]

Discovered the game rather recently ... started Zealot, then Vet .... oh i hate this penance ... any tips, or just git gud ?

[kind scarab]

That's how much he'll charge you for just the water

[dusk idol]

hold block a copious amount and listen for back attacks

[kind scarab]

Keep your toughness maxed out at all times, get all the toughness regen perks and then make sure not to get hit twice

[dusk idol]

though... less easy now that sometimes your sound will bug out

[halcyon owl]

even thought about trying stealth for it ...

[dusk idol]

i think shout would serve you better, that overtoughness will prevent your hp from taking damage

[languid escarp]

Call it sparkling water and charge 30

[dusk idol]

which i believe is what the penance is really asking for

[halcyon owl]

it is yeah... good idea on shout tho

[autumn perch]

Sssshhhh

[iron marten]

just do it on malice low-intensity

[reef crown]

Best Curio setup for melee veteran? I'm usually rocking one wound and 2 max hp curios with max hp and combat ability CD reduction. What's the best for 3rd perk? Using mk6 PSword and voice of command.

I've tried corruption resistance. Didn't feel like it did anything impactful.
Tried toughness regen speed, doesn't feel like that's doing much either.

[languid escarp]

I like getting reduce sniper damage just in case

Doesnt happen often but when it does could be game ending

[reef crown]

flamers popping my toughness is prolly the nr1 reason I go down ever 😄

[gusty sonnet]

2 toughness + 1 health is what I rock on melee vet

[languid escarp]

I run 2 toughness and 1 wound

[reef crown]

I feel like toughness curios are a waste with such a short shout CD. Can always hide behind overtoughness and Iron Will until shout comes back up.

[dusk idol]

there's a few different curio set ups people run for various reasons, i run double health and stamina since it helps me stay health-y

[gritty dock]

veteran breakfast 😀

[languid escarp]

Wouldnt it synergize

More than anything

[autumn perch]

🍔 🥔

[dusk idol]

it does not synergise that well, but more toughness is still good

[languid escarp]

When does update go live

Anyway

[dusk idol]

i should rephrase in saying that it works as well with toughness curios as it does any other curio

[sharp ember]

2 toughness +
one 3 stamina myself

[reef crown]

What about perks?

[sharp ember]

toughness, toughness regen, stamina regen, sniper resist

in descending order of priority

[past knot]

So
Hows autopistol?

[gusty sonnet]

Is toughness regen that good on vet? You mostly get tuffnes refill with passives IME

[sharp ember]

mediocre beyond close range but still stumbles stuff good

[past knot]

Ah I see I see

[gusty sonnet]

Just run braced autoguns tbh

[past knot]

Which of the auto/hard hitting ranged weapons good this patch?

[tepid pagoda]

Columnus IAG is funny now

[past knot]

Agri mk8 is hella fun

[past knot]

Iag?

[tepid pagoda]

Vraks 3/7 are big

Infantry auto

[past knot]

That the braced or infantry

Oh

I already had that

Wanted to use something new

[tepid pagoda]

Vraks HH are big

[snow pendant]

what are the blessing to run on plasma besides get hot ?

[tepid pagoda]

Plasma big

Revolver big

Helbore big

[sharp ember]

It's most useful during short gaps in damage to top off your toughness back to full after taking a hit. It goes a long way over the course of a mission if you're in a position where you can't get the last hit on elites

[gusty sonnet]

Laspistol BIG

[tepid pagoda]

Laspistol smol

But good

[past knot]

Fuk helbore, plasma and revolver was funi that crit revolver is extermiatus its too funi

[sharp ember]

generally gets you back into the fight faster if your shout/infiltrate isn't ready

[south spindle]

Laspistol one of the best weapons in the game atm fr

[tepid pagoda]

As long as you don't run graia brauto or recon guns

Probably gonna be ok

[south spindle]

But even if people dont like it, i enjoy the Agri' HH because its basically an AN-94

[past knot]

[inland orchid]

Mobility, visually low recoil, what’s there not to love

[past knot]

Wait so what i put on las pistol

[tepid pagoda]

Dumdum

Then whatever

Backstab damage can be sick for bosses

[gusty sonnet]

I guess if you dont run autofire mod you get carpal tunnel

[south spindle]

Dumdum/Infernus is kinda as good as it gets

[past knot]

I see I see

[snow pendant]

i dont why las pistol when u have las rifle or helbors

[inland orchid]

I play unmodded and fire it just fine

[tepid pagoda]

It does way more DPS

[south spindle]

Mobility and you're not forced to hold your shots, also what 'Nessa said

[snow pendant]

so fighting shooters

[tepid pagoda]

And has better mobility

[inland orchid]

Mobility goes crazy when u cut a lasgun in half

[snow pendant]

revolver has mobility as well

[tepid pagoda]

Laspistol go brrr

[inland orchid]

Ye but low ammo count

[tepid pagoda]

Yeah but it is wasted on small enemies

[snow pendant]

revolver 1 shots most of em and can get collats if u line em right

[tepid pagoda]

Laspistol can just execute shooters en masse

[inland orchid]

But that ammo is for special n junk

[carmine solstice]

tbh focus on dogs and muties

[south spindle]

Sure, but that takes from the pool of ammo you would otherwise be using to kill actually dangerous enemies

[inland orchid]

Laspistol’s lasers rated E for everyone, cept cara obv

[snow pendant]

my concern on las pistol is when u face heavier ones like maulers , ragers or even muties

not even ogryns yet

[south spindle]

It fucking destorys everything that inst a Crusher tbh

[autumn perch]

Heavy pistol deletes maulers

[carmine solstice]

dont stand too close to ogryns enemies might hit you throught them @halcyon owl

[south spindle]

An even Crushers it can kill if you have Rending bonus'

Its also funny as fuck nerfing Reapers with it, they get totally clowned on

[snow pendant]

so going full rending with las pistol ?

[carmine solstice]

reapers do nothing

[past knot]

Muties are always close enough to acknowledge them with melee and you can just krak the crushers

[carmine solstice]

gunners om the other hand they scare me

[south spindle]

Yeah, you can go full into it, you dont need to, but if you do it becomes a "do everything" gun

[kind scarab]

Even without rending it works great, a HS/Crit build does wonders for the laspistol

[snow pendant]

i can see it just deletes repears cuz u can keep plinging the head

[south spindle]

Same for everything tbh

Its just really fuckin good this patch

[snow pendant]

so what perks , i know infernus and dum for blessing from before

flak and unarmored ?

[south spindle]

Flak/Maniac is what i would roll personally

[past knot]

Flak maniac as usual is my guess

[south spindle]

Unyeilding/Maniac is also a good pick if you feel like you need more boss damage

[ruby hull]

as a sparkhead ive come over here to ask you gun bois a very important question

can anyone actually tell me the difference between fire frenzy and death spitter on autoguns.......

[snow pendant]

boss is going to be a team effort anyway so i will abstain from thinking i can hog it

[gusty sonnet]

Crit is also fine if locked in. But I wouldnt invest to get it

[south spindle]

Yeah, if you roll it its decent, but not as good as +damage perk

[dusk idol]

one gives power and the other gives a damage buff to enemies in 'close range' iirc

[ruby hull]

dafuc is power

isnt that a fatshark name for damage

[south spindle]

Damage, Stagger + Cleave all being part of "power"

[snow pendant]

for las pistol shout or executioner ?

[ruby hull]

god i hate you fatshark

[dusk idol]

yes and no, power is an umbrella term for some offensive stats

[south spindle]

Users choice, neither make or break the gun. Personally i play it with Exe or Infil

[ruby hull]

fatshark needs to take finesse and "power" and shove them in the trash

tired of random terms being thrown around

[tepid pagoda]

It wouldn't be so bad if they actually told you what they do

[dusk idol]

namely power affects all your sources of damage, so if you have a power buff and have soulblaze going, power will affect your soulblaze ticks

[tepid pagoda]

So does damage though

[ruby hull]

damage buffs do that too though

[dusk idol]

i believe it depends on the damage buff specifically

[tepid pagoda]

Ye

[calm vine]

fire frenzy killing enemies increases your damage (close range), death spitter increases your damage (all ranges) when killing enemies in close range

[delicate moat]

melk pls sell me sunder

[tepid pagoda]

But so does power

[carmine solstice]

finesse you can see what it does in the weapons tbh

[dusk idol]

i believe this is true

[tepid pagoda]

Nope

[carmine solstice]

power on the ither hand its more mistery

[ruby hull]

does deathspitter stack 5 time

[dapper vessel]

yes

[dusk idol]

it does

[tepid pagoda]

Finesse modifier is not Finesse

Those are different

[carmine solstice]

really?

[tepid pagoda]

Yep

[ruby hull]

isnt finesse supposed to be weakspot and crit damage?

[carmine solstice]

ok thats dumb

[calm vine]

i dont know about deathspitter but fire frenzy stacks 5 times

[kind scarab]

You thought FS would keep things consistent

[tepid pagoda]

Finesse is Weakspot damage, Crit damage and Weakspot Crit Damage

[kind scarab]

[tepid pagoda]

Finesse modifier is anything from attack speed to weakspot/crit damage

[frank saffron]

ah yeah dude heres my hellbore

[kind scarab]

You forget. This game is coded with Chaos.

[delicate moat]

[kind scarab]

Ofc

[tepid pagoda]

Sometimes one. Sometimes both

[kind scarab]

Nothing would make sense.

[frank saffron]

just waitin to get better blessings to put on it

[delicate moat]

how rare is sunder

[calm vine]

i think it only appears on on orange items

[delicate moat]

dammit

[dusk idol]

no

[carmine solstice]

tzench coded the game even when nurgle its the main evil

[dusk idol]

but

if you're aiming for T4 blessings it may take a while

especially on powersword which has a bloated selection of them

[dapper vessel]

its a Tier 4 only blessing for Power Sword

good luck finding it

[delicate moat]

i have Power Cycler 4, i just want sunder now

[carmine solstice]

just buy random ones and upgrade them till you get the blessing

[dusk idol]

and so it begins

[carmine solstice]

i do that and tend to get the tier 3 and 4 blessings

[delicate moat]

im broke

been running AMs and what not to feed brunt and hadron

[calm vine]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-power/munitorum-mk-iii-power-sword <-- has info on sunder says tier IV only

[dusk idol]

look at the silver lining

[carmine solstice]

welcome to the broke gang

[dusk idol]

you'll get to hear every single one of Hadrons voice lines

[delicate moat]

[dusk idol]

again and again and again

[carmine solstice]

varlet jump off a ledge

[dapper vessel]

did you know

back couple months ago

everytime you reroll something

[dusk idol]

mm?

[dapper vessel]

Hadron would ALWAYS play her voice line

[delicate moat]

i remember

[dusk idol]

yes

[delicate moat]

it was pain

[dapper vessel]

like EVERY FUCKING TIME

[delicate moat]

reroll until rarity wasnt a thing back then iirc

[dusk idol]

automatic reroll was a godsend that broke my earholes

[calm vine]

and is that a bad thing?

[dusk idol]

yes... it was

[dapper vessel]

it gotten so bad Reroll until rarity (bless that mod) has an option to turn her voice lines off

[calm vine]

i dont mind hadrons voice lines

[exotic wyvern]

Is the Lawbringer still straight up doody? This is really tempting to buy from Melk

[delicate moat]

the problem is the 50000th time

[calm vine]

yes, though shotguns are just a little worse than the revolver

[dusk idol]

the way the mod worked was that it essentially macro'd rerolling your perks for you, so you didn't have to sit there through a literal hour of rng clicking to get the perk you wanted

and every time Hadron would just

talk

[gusty sonnet]

Buy low, sell high I say. Might get buffed for the anniversary

[dusk idol]

she would not shut up

[dusk idol]

and no, it's good

at the very baseline, it's viable. I say it's good, i like it

[dapper vessel]

yuh its good

[small nexus]

what should i change >

[dapper vessel]

Scattershot and Flechette is a funny build

[calm vine]

when i was rerolling i would watch something else (taskmaster) though so her voice would be drowned out

[dapper vessel]

I wanna say both blessings

[dusk idol]

shattering impact to gets hot or blaze away

no keep volatile

[dapper vessel]

Shattering Impact is pretty pointless

[exotic wyvern]

Very true. I've got dockets to burn anyway, buying it

[dusk idol]

since your charge rate is high you want to keep volatile

[dapper vessel]

and Volatile just reduces your damage

[dusk idol]

change reload speed to flak

[dusk idol]

only if you are below or at 73% charge rate

[small nexus]

thank you 🙂

[dusk idol]

if you're above it volatile boosts your damage per shot

[frank ether]

🧱

[dapper vessel]

someone did say something about the damage chart for Plasma

anybody got the link for it

[calm vine]

why cant FS just give us the ability to customize our weapons (a lot of books have guardsmen customize their lasguns), its lore accurate

[dusk idol]

telopots video on it covers the interaction between charge rate and damage, as well as volatile, so i always just refer that if anyone's curious

though the breakpoints part is a little outdated since patch 13 and 14

[dapper vessel]

thats from 6 months ago

[stray storm]

Cuz GW is looking over their shoulder making sure it ain’t turning into Fortnite last time I heard

[gusty sonnet]

Because skins

[dapper vessel]

ryken is from 2 weeks ago though iirc he didnt cover the charge rate quirk

[gusty sonnet]

And weapons gotta stay lore accurate for GW

[dusk idol]

it's a small bug if we're being real, the damage lost or gained is always under 2%

but keep volatile anyway since you have it

[gusty sonnet]

Fire team moment

[shell ginkgo]

Because Fatshark moment.

[karmic musk]

If I need the Chainsword to take care of armored targets, do I put Bloodletter on it?

[tepid pagoda]

No

[fallen geyser]

you get a power sword

[dusk idol]

if you're using the chainsword to take down armoured targets bleed won't do that much damage to them

crushers specifically

[tepid pagoda]

Bloodletter is basically only for bosses

[calm vine]

no chainsword is best against high health enemies but no armor to flak

[tepid pagoda]

And apparently one shot BP on some ragers

It's not very good imo but people like bleed

[calm vine]

i love bloodletter on my chainsword its lore accurate, so much blood

[quick burrow]

for the mg1a inf lasgun its headhunter and deadly accurate with maniac/flak ?

[fallen geyser]

No Khornate demons on my weapons thank you!

[dusk idol]

yer

[austere creek]

I am struggling with the "Make every shot count" Penance, does anybody have tips?

[shell ginkgo]

Revolver or a shotgun.

[dusk idol]

use a low ammo capacity weapon and don't bring survivalist

[umbral scaffold]

man relies on mods to run helbore lol

[trim hemlock]

This one, perhaps?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17qx6tv/plasma_gun_charge_rate_and_damage/

[dusk idol]

er low ammo reserve i mean

[fallen geyser]

DO it on heresy, use a revolver, ??? profit

[calm vine]

back in the olden days you could disconnect and reconnect while having only 1 ammo at the end of the mission, can you still do that now?

[shell ginkgo]

Doubt it.

[fallen geyser]

Nope

[dusk idol]

they fixed a lot of the cheese you used to be able to pull off with penances

[fallen geyser]

honestly you only need 90% so if you miss a few shots it's not a big deal just pick up some ammo

and hit with whats left

[shell ginkgo]

Your best bet is to shoot often into a monstrosity if you get one

[austere creek]

thanks all

[shell ginkgo]

Godspeed king.

[fallen geyser]

If I can do it anyone can 🙂

[tall warren]

New to Veteran, is krak grenade or shredder better?

[fallen geyser]

apples and oranges

[lilac eagle]

Gotta go zealot for the bleed on crits too

[fallen geyser]

Krak is for big things frag is for big crowds

[shell ginkgo]

Generally krak is more loved here

[quick burrow]

i tried to use krak i missed shredder so much i dunno just more satisfying to use maybe

[shell ginkgo]

Frag makes space while krak deletes almost anything it hits

The bleed damage nerf makes the shredder a bit lesser imo

[fallen geyser]

WE have plenty of dakka to deal with crowds and watching a mauler explode into seperate bits it just 😘 👌

[shell ginkgo]

[fallen geyser]

IS it exhilerating Takedown that's bugged?

[south spindle]

It didnt suffer that badly with the nerf, it still wipes out big groups an makes most of the tougher lads notably squishier

[dusk idol]

yes

[fallen geyser]

tah

[dusk idol]

veterans who mag dump into hordes deserve to be put on trial

[dusk idol]

unless it's a brauto

or

one of the other guns that does great into hordes

but not the revolver

[crude wind]

Thanks so much for reposting this, was losing my mind looking for it

[shell ginkgo]

I will continue to sometimes empty my cylinder into a crowd for fun.

[crude wind]

Volatile is such a terrible blessing lol

[hearty panther]

mr johnny boyo

https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainCrepuscularHamNotATK-70CtEdEZ2Fuw95zI

Pls explainz

[dapper vessel]

certified fatshark moment

[trim hemlock]

Certified optimised ™️ programming moment

[dapper vessel]

Whats going on with special spawns lately

poxbursters spawning out of nowhere

outside of the spawn rooms

[trim hemlock]

Why make something complex when you can make it as easy as possible and not account for consequences of your actions

[frank ether]

I noticed it too

not just bursters

stuff just spawns in front of me

[shell ginkgo]

New traitor cloaking tech.

Praise the Emperor your eyes managed to spot it.

[trim hemlock]

You even did a spin out of sheer confusion

[frank ether]

I mean I get that game has gotten easy

but this is stupid

[dusk idol]

i had a whole gunner squad literally spawn right on top of my ass

trickle in the odd stalker or shotgunner too from time to time

[fallen geyser]

what's a decent stealth build? I'm having trouble figuring one

[crude wind]

Hahahaha

[frank saffron]

Hahaha i guess u dont have it installed

[crude wind]

He a bouncey boy!

[frank saffron]

You wouldve known that the long range scope just came out today haha @umbral scaffold

So no indont need mods to run it

[trim hemlock]

So close, yet so far from perfection

Yes, yes, damage dumpstat

[crude wind]

Imo you do a kind of revolver/shotgun orientated one or you can do an IAG/CQKZ one

[delicate moat]

what do u guys bring for no ammo pickup AM?

[quick burrow]

u should see my las pistol

[trim hemlock]

How is typically a Ia lasgun build, anyway? Should I consider taking some rending from Rending Strikes or Brittleness from Onslaught?

[crude wind]

The former paths through scavenger, the latter can get away without it for more points to spend patching to the bottom

[quick burrow]

i know ur pain

[fallen geyser]

IAG?

[crude wind]

Infantry autogun

Columnus is the king of CQC rifles imo

[fallen geyser]

I've got

[languid escarp]

Whats the conversion ratio from power to damage anyway

Like vet keystone that gives +50% power to weakspot hits

[fallen geyser]

Columnus MKv right?

[rigid pilot]

1:1

[crude wind]

Yessir

[crude wind]

This is a beautiful gun as well

[languid escarp]

Then why not just say +50% damage

[rigid pilot]

power affects cleave and stagger too

[autumn perch]

Dog

Say hi

[languid escarp]

Oh

[rigid pilot]

[dusk idol]

which is also 1:1

i think

[shell ginkgo]

Oh shit dog

[wooden oar]

Revolver carry?

[languid escarp]

Wait then I dont understand, why is one of oger’s early talent so much better than later ones

The +40% power on heavy melee talent

[dusk idol]

oger

it’s a fully charged melee attack, ogryn heavy melee is already plenty slow

[languid escarp]

Oh

[calm vine]

isnt the heavy melee attack a full charged one?

[languid escarp]

Fully charged

That makes sense

[onyx tangle]

what's a good shootbang build with ranged weapon?

[stray storm]

Bolter with Cavlace and Pinning fire
Literally spray and pray (but it works)

[quick burrow]

waht u guys think i should change for my second option on this thing

i was thinking carpace to flak or volatile to blaze away

[umbral scaffold]

new poxhound skin

[umbral scaffold]

doubnht but ok

[stuck dawn]

this any good?

[willow badger]

Damn I'm jelly

[stuck dawn]

bought it just in case

[willow badger]

Haven't seen any good rolled plasmas in the shop revently

[brisk sapphire]

neither of those blessings are good for plasma

[quick burrow]

id upgrade it cause it has perfect statage u might get lucky

[willow badger]

Best like 340

[quick burrow]

whats the plasma blessings these days ?

[stuck dawn]

are you talking to me?

[willow badger]

Also when do you guys typically charge your plasma shots

[calm vine]

shattering is pointless

[quick burrow]

yeah def not optimal

[strange grove]

worth getting?

[stuck dawn]

367

[quick burrow]

but beter than volatile right? cause i barely charge it

[woeful ibex]

is this good?

got it on Maelstorm

with modifications ofcourse

[calm vine]

for the blessings

[calm vine]

shattering is pointless you dont need brittleness on plasma

[strange grove]

I might change elite to maniac and try it on damnation

[quick burrow]

@strange grove nice gun swap opening to headhunter and ranged to maniac

im hunting a mg1a atm but tis ruff out there man

[autumn perch]

Real

[stray storm]

Crits and Sprinting?