veteran-class

[acoustic wyvern]

This will make agri iag really good

[wanton dawn]

No, cuz rending

[acoustic wyvern]

I will change deadshot for exhilirating tho

[devout atlas]

Good point, I run Surgical anyway so idk why I have Deadshot on there

[acoustic wyvern]

more crit can't hurt bahaha

thanks for the nice build

will be trying in a min

[nimble sequoia]

tRap God

[wanton dawn]

A zealot just rushed the whole map and finished baross in 10 min

[devout atlas]

Just a tip if you didn't know, crouch + ADS with the Boltgun and you will eliminate the annoying "jump" it does when resetting recoil

[devout atlas]

Honestly can't blame them 💀

[wanton dawn]

I can, he did not buy dinner first

[acoustic wyvern]

fs should really start to fix that

[devout atlas]

Idek if it even is a bug or a feature atp 💀

but yeah crouching mitigates it making follow up shots much easier

[acoustic wyvern]

that'd explain why i have better luck crouch firing

man can't run from cs recoil

[fickle wraith]

psyker with wall being scared of sniper now ive seen it all

this just dropped from a failed mission

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ayo-wtf-skullfiremoyai-gif-26062811

pray for that blessing

[gusty sonnet]

when you bust a nut but she keep suckin

[fickle wraith]

do i keep, do i earn infernus 4, what do i do

@valid apex took me another 2 tries KEK

[celest vine]

Falter for surgical

[fickle wraith]

and ranged damage elites for maniacs or some shit?

[celest vine]

Or flak

[fickle wraith]

dont have surgical yet tho

[celest vine]

Your choce

[fickle wraith]

not on helbore anyway

[tawny pawn]

perks for a shovel? I assume flak is good

[fickle wraith]

the perks are ur bonking with a shovel

there are no cons however

[next slate]

flak and unarmoured are generally good choices

maniac could be decent for ragers but you can stagger them with the alt fire so killing them quick isn’t too important

[tawny pawn]

thanky thanky

[zealous prawn]

what do I swap out ghost with?

[acoustic wyvern]

surgical

[elder vessel]

Some people have told me ghost is quite nice

Sit in the back line and click on heads in peace

[inland orchid]

me personally i'd slap stripped down to get that ranged immunity when running

really say fuck u to ranged troopers/specialists

[quick burrow]

hows this one

[raw birch]

out of the auto guns wich one do u guys prefer?

well the automatic ones

[quick burrow]

mk5 inf autogun seems to be generally enjoyed

[raw birch]

i see i see

[quick burrow]

dont poo poo the lasguns though the laspistol and mg1a is pretty beastly

and that goddam ammo efficiency is addicting

[next slate]

whatever the green auto rifle is

the one with the exposed barrel

[raw birch]

what do u guys think of auto pistols?

[next slate]

the medium one

[next slate]

fun

can be good but mostly fun

gotta get the right blessings for them to be effective

[raw birch]

i like automatic guns so i was thinking of finding one

[quick burrow]

auto pistol is straight up outclassed now

[raw birch]

either the laser one autogun or autopistol

[quick burrow]

and im a autopistol lover pre laspistol

[next slate]

If u like automatics then the accatran is ur 100% best bet

the bullpup

[raw birch]

accatran?

[reef cedar]

agripinaa braced 4 lyfe

[next slate]

the full auto las-rifle

[raw birch]

ah i see

it got nerfed right?

i heard about it

[next slate]

dunno

I just use guns if they are fun or not

[raw birch]

yea same

how do u build around automatic guns? do u use voice or sighting thing?

[next slate]

it’s a pve game like you don’t need to argue that much over them

[raw birch]

like i made a build myself but im wondering if i did it right

[next slate]

my weapon choice and perks are separate but if you wanna kill more then executioner stance for sure

Volley Fire was already one of the best abilities before the update

[quick burrow]

dont lsiten to fat tony hes leading you astray from the voice of the emprah

[next slate]

nuh uh

[quick burrow]

i can never go back

ever

EVER

[raw birch]

i do like voice alot cuz how much of a cruch it saves me sometimes lmao

[quick burrow]

u need that voice man esp in auric damn

[next slate]

voice is fun because the voice lines

but it’s also just useful for melee vets and panic

[quick burrow]

i changed my curios because of it

[raw birch]

like with automatic i guess it would makes sense to bring the krak cuz i cant deal with those guys

[quick burrow]

high speed high adrenaline laspistol voice veteran with all weakspot dmg and crit chance

[next slate]

tbh though I’d say stealth is better for revives than the revive shout

[quick burrow]

with my best friend

[raw birch]

this is mine atm im not lucky with dum dum yet

[next slate]

autos can’t deal with carapace all too well but mostly just crushers in that regard

you can body spam maulers all day long

that’s still very good baseline

[raw birch]

yea so im guessing krak would be a prefered grenade

to deal with crushers

[next slate]

auto gun would clear hordes decently enough yeah so the shredder isn’t necessary

[raw birch]

i been seeing alot of people use shredder but im guessing cuz theya re using the 1 tap guns

grenade*

[next slate]

I’d say it’s mostly preference

[forest maple]

Why doesn't the chaos spawn grab do damage?

[next slate]

krak has more specialised uses

[forest maple]

I feel it should do 50% hp for sure

[quick burrow]

well also for autoguns dont you take onslaught and rending?

[next slate]

throw at big thing and it dies

[forest maple]

Unless freed

[quick burrow]

and drop the weakshot/crit talents

[next slate]

shredder is decent for anything

[acoustic wyvern]

slimy and soft

[sharp ember]

if nobody gets close to make the spawn swing, it eats your face and does massive corruption damage, hurts pretty bad

[next slate]

spawn is annoying enough

[forest maple]

It does?

[polar charm]

SMH when Hardon gives useless trash

[sharp ember]

yea, if your team is too scared to get in melee range

[sharp ember]

it straight up starts eating you

[raw birch]

this is my current build for my auto gun

what u think?

[quick burrow]

u dont take comp urge ?

[next slate]

didn’t get the keystone?

[sharp ember]

you only really see the chaos spawn eat attack if your team is scattered by a horde

[quick burrow]

u dont get keystone on vet

thats actually meta

[raw birch]

i was told the keystones suck for the ammount of talent used

[next slate]

ah hell naw not the meta

[quick burrow]

well i mean its 20% dmg for 5s every 35s or like a perm dmg boost of like 10% all the time

plus other utility or dmg options

u pretty much just want rending and stop there

[raw birch]

oh shit i just noticed i forgot to put that on lmao

[quick burrow]

ya thats a really good one

[next slate]

uh I don’t know the specific individual perks but I guess it overall looks good

if ur specialising for ur gun then I don’t see why you wouldn’t take executioners stance though

[raw birch]

i like the support it brings for voice

plus i noticed most people dont use voice in my lobbys..

[quick burrow]

exe stance is better for longer range foightin auto guns are a bit closer range also when ur being charged by a crusher or mauler swarm you wanna be able to scream at them in fear and ditch

[raw birch]

^

plus that too

[quick burrow]

exe stance gets most value from bolter i think

jsut cause the quick swap

[raw birch]

what about plasma?

[gleaming turtle]

Is Stopping Power just impact/stagger or is it actually damage?

[quick burrow]

press V on the gun

[next slate]

I’m not sure if plasma gets especially better with any of the abilities

[quick burrow]

then mouse over it

it will tell you if its stagger or dmg on that specific weapon

[next slate]

voice for breathing room I guess

[gleaming turtle]

Yeah, it doesn't really explain. The stats say it does damage, but the bottom bit says it's just impact and stagger.

[next slate]

it does plenty damage without stance

[quick burrow]

if it says dmg its dmg if it says stagger its stagger

usually its going to be against armor types if its dmg for stopping power

[raw birch]

im just trying to get a gun to put dum dum on my gun tho wich makes me sad

[quick burrow]

for example see it says the dmg type breakdown

[raw birch]

wish me luck boys

[quick burrow]

OH BABY

thats a nice frame

[wanton dawn]

I cannot get a "high" damage scoreboard on my melee build cuz the game are way too fast

[raw birch]

should i keep unyielding swap crit to flak

and put dum dum instead of hit and run?

[next slate]

I’d say so

you could massacre ogryns fairly quick with that

[raw birch]

only problem would be mutants

when they say close kills

how close?

[next slate]

nah that will kill mutants fine I’d say

not sure on the actual distance for close kills though

[quick burrow]

unsure but dum dum is bugged to apply dmg boost at longer ranges atm

unsure when it will be fixed

so dum dum is the bis

[raw birch]

yea i was told dum dum is a must have

[quick burrow]

thats a tough one actually haha

[raw birch]

should i keep speedload or hit & run?

[quick burrow]

preference

both blessings arent great

[next slate]

you probably already have reload speed perks but I dunno how often you’d kill at close range or swap to melee

so aye preference

[raw birch]

true

i guess ill keep hit

[quick burrow]

hmm

i wonder if that procs your stamina regen on dodge

[raw birch]

https://i.imgur.com/PytS6X1.png

ah fuck me..

i forgot about my stuff

time to go do more missions

[devout atlas]

best fem Vet voice?

[raw birch]

professional

[sharp ember]

cutthroat

the most straight-to-the-point one

[raw birch]

also very mean 😦

[sharp ember]

the only nice one really is mrs. TRAXIS SOMETHING-SOMETHING

[devout atlas]

which one is that

[raw birch]

professional is like middle ground i guess?

the one that isnt both of ours

[wanton dawn]

TRAXIS 6-6 DEAD

[quick burrow]

this is the build i was running for auto weapons

[next slate]

depends on the ability

Professional for voice and cutthroat for infiltrate or exe stance

[carmine cradle]

plasma gun op

[devout atlas]

fuck it I went loose cannon

[next slate]

loose cannon isn’t bad

[devout atlas]

she seems like the one I'd most like to drink with

[carmine cradle]

so did i

SHOW ME YOUR KARKIN WARFACES!

[next slate]

fem cannon sounds like she’s having fun and male cannon sounds like a lunatic

[raw birch]

i like male profesional the most also

[next slate]

I didn’t like male cutthroat until voice arrived

if he shouted at me I would get the fuck up and stay up

[quick burrow]

johny darktide is a male professional from cadia who got imprisoned for insubordination

karma take a look at my build i posted up top u might like it

[next slate]

like fem cutthroat sounds vicious but male cutthroat is violent

[sharp ember]

TRAXIS... 12???

[raw birch]

man i should of named my guy john darktide now... fuck u dalyn, i named him hunk cuz i love him from RE

[next slate]

something… something with a net!

[sharp ember]

karking john darktide

[next slate]

tbf id base how good a voice type is based on the heavy melee grunts

[quick burrow]

das the guy!

[next slate]

since you’ll be hearing it an awful lot

[fickle wraith]

MMMMMMMM YUMMYYYYYYYYY

on infantry lasguns too

YUMMY

[raw birch]

https://i.imgur.com/1mRPmq4.png i use hunk and use this helmet only

[quick burrow]

then get urself deadly accurate run the 30% weakspot dmg with deadshot and the lasguns dont consume ammo on crit

its...so strong

[raw birch]

i just noticed something i never changed my curio ever since i got my guy max..

[quick burrow]

curios are awesome now cause as long as u get 1 bis perk u can get the other 2

[carmine cradle]

your pretty much guarenteed a crit by shot 4

[raw birch]

is there a good overall good curio for vets

like do u focus hp or tough and get atleast 1 wound?

[quick burrow]

no to wounds but

[frank ether]

cant rly think of a gun where exe stance isnt good with

[quick burrow]

1 toughness 1 hp

[frank ether]

oops forgot to quote that one

[quick burrow]

possibly stamina for 3rd but tbh dealers choice IMO toughness

[carmine cradle]

it kicks ass with revolver and plasma

[frank ether]

good with any gun you have rly

[gleaming turtle]

Unarmored and Flak on Plasma, right?

[fickle wraith]

2 wounds is enough??

[frank ether]

brrautos, shotguns even

[fickle wraith]

maybe its cuz im bad i feel that i dont survive as well with 2 wounds?

[quick burrow]

i play only on auric damnation \

i dont touch wounds

and i do pretty good

[fickle wraith]

i havent done one auric yet

im a lil scared

[quick burrow]

i take stats that prevent u from needing wounds in the first place

dont be scared

[frank ether]

no wounds is fine if you finish missions in a timely manner

[quick burrow]

its just high int dam

think of it like a hot bath

u get used to the intensity

and it just becomes the game

anything lower feels slow at this point

[next slate]

id say flak and unyielding maybe

for ogryns

[quick burrow]

well also think of it this way combat stats will always be in effect

if you go down and no one saves u all the wounds are pointless

[frank ether]

^

[quick burrow]

if u really feel uncomfortable run 1 extra wound curio until you feel more confident and swap it out

[frank ether]

I think 1 wound is fine

if you want some buffer

[forest blaze]

Only wounds curios and cosplay as a zealot

[quick burrow]

I AM MY WOUNDS

[carmine cradle]

brainless light attack zealot builds are fun

[forest blaze]

1 wound curio helps for when apes grab a grimoire or troll with a DH

[frank ether]

so are brainless vet auto builds

put on columnus or brrauto

w+m1

pretty fun

[quick burrow]

jsut do that with laspistol

play in aimed all the time dodging to move

land dem head shawts

[forest blaze]

Crab walk with dodge while ads

[next slate]

just rock a green kantrael and have fun

[quick burrow]

i actually do that sometimes it feels like old school doom or somethng

[valid apex]

BM is easy. Cycler is the hard one. If you don’t want finesse to be dump

[forest maple]

Can someone tell me for the love of god, why are people not MARKING on auric t5

HOW

i always find myself begging people to mark more half way through a mission

[quick burrow]

depends on the person if im playing my psyker or vet i usually just kill it

[raw birch]

im in a team with only auto guns i feel like we are bonding

the psyker and zealots have it

weird seeing gun psyker

[forest maple]

Darktide needs a tutorial that stresses out marking enemies

[frank ether]

not like they are marking below that either

[forest blaze]

+1 plasteel for marking an enemy

[frank ether]

if it gave you bonus points people would do it

thats also bad though

I dont want needless marking

I want people to mark things that actually matter

[forest blaze]

It’s get annoying af 😂

[next slate]

I would mark more than everything but I spilled beer on my mouse and the button I use sticks

[raw birch]

im so used to marking cuz of vermtinde 2

[carmine cradle]

should i buy this for my vet?

[raw birch]

played alot fo saltzpyre

[next slate]

I played battlefield, it’s second nature

[frank ether]

I immediately drop whatever gets marked

years of playing fps kinda conditions you

very good feature tbh

[raw birch]

they should add saltzspyres passive on the new class where marked guys take more dmg lmao

[carmine cradle]

imperial guard moment

[tall canopy]

zealot moments, don't get me wrong I get it can be frustrating to have not a single ammo supplying vet but cry more lol, vets feed toughness too and this is how the game turned out after 4 different people dropped out of 4th slot.

[frank ether]

I mean its none of my business but 4 people dropping off a game is odd

[tall canopy]

they joined, quickly went down and left

[frank ether]

was it no ammo maelstorm?

[tall canopy]

no there was ammo

[frank ether]

then whats the big deal lmao

[tall canopy]

they joined midway through a horde and boss

[rustic stream]

My guy

[tall canopy]

ate a fat one and left

[rustic stream]

Can't a zealot just cry their heart out?

smh

[tall canopy]

it's all they ever seem to do lmao

[frank ether]

see I dont get leavers

if I die I just alt tab

[rustic stream]

Zealots and Psykers are always one of two; hilariously good and will backpack you, or just gonna cry

[tall canopy]

yeah, you do typically get some gnarly clutches in auric damnation

[shell ginkgo]

I like when people rage quick right as we all go down / get netted

Had a real good clutch moment where the bot then un-nets me and we live.

[frank ether]

I dont have the main character syndrome sometimes I'll have bad games sometimes someone else will be the carry

[shell ginkgo]

[frank ether]

like its fine

[tall canopy]

damnation is making peace with loss

[frank ether]

agree

[tall canopy]

if you're fortunate it happens in the first 5 minutes

[frank ether]

I'm getting good vibes from you

[tall canopy]

and then you back up your troubles and hop into the next mission

[shell ginkgo]

Tbh, I don't get why people quit right before the game ends

They trying to have 0 losses or something?

[tall canopy]

w/l

[next slate]

faster into the next

[frank ether]

maybe if there is an unofficial winrate calculator or something

[tall canopy]

True.

Especially if the endscreen bugs out and you can't space out

[next slate]

sometimes you just get pissed and don’t wanna be in the match much longer too

[tall canopy]

Been a year

[frank ether]

sure I get that

[tall canopy]

Unless your team are nothing but ankleweights I don't know why you get so pissed in Damnation

Sure you get freebooters but you can work around it

[waxen veldt]

How are the other Kantrael lasgun variants besides the MGXII these days?

[frank ether]

honestly I dont mind getting anchor teammates anymore as long as they dont talk big its all good

[tall canopy]

The blue lasgun is useless

[gusty sonnet]

"blame the shit skill tree he said" What is so important to grab at the bottom that he take +3% dmg over ammo regen or extra movespeed?

[tall canopy]

Green? I think is still pretty poor

I'm more of a Helbore gamer at this point

Carapace penning is just poggers, even on the lightest version

[waxen veldt]

Hellbore is good but i just don't like charging

[tall canopy]

Me neither

Hence I run blue with the faster charging blessing

[raw birch]

do survivlist stack?

[tall canopy]

Nah

[frank ether]

its not about getting more out of middle tree, but branching into other trees to enchance your build

[raw birch]

i se

[tall canopy]

I don't think any auras stack

[tall canopy]

Literally vet tree is filled with so much bloat and shit, I've tried squeezing survival into it

[frank ether]

my shout build takes the damage aura so I can take utilities like grenade regen, corruption cleanse and go trench fighter+rending

[tall canopy]

But this is a shout build built for endurance I can't accomodate ammo sustain without comprimising the core point of the build

[frank ether]

since its effectively a good melee build at that point I feel like its a bitch move to complain about it

[tall canopy]

Vet can't do everything

[frank ether]

like there is just a limit to how much you can bring

[tall canopy]

Fire team is ass

But to make this build function it's a concession you have to make

[frank ether]

the same people who bitch about melee vet just stfu if a worse zealot joins

[tall canopy]

Literally just aim better if you have ammo issues

Or be smarter with your ranged use

Meanwhile people who ammo dump hordes

[frank ether]

Especially the fucking ogryns are worst with this

[tall canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-sigh-albert-wesker-lance-reddick-resident-evil-inhale-exhale-gif-26399289

[frank ether]

they'll shoot everything and then bitch at me

[raw birch]

i always use survivlist but i bring fireteam if other vets dont change

[tall canopy]

I get it, Vet is the ammo bitch and the only reason worth bringing is his ammo feed capabilituy

But shouting every 10 seconds and keeping the team alive is more valuable in moment to moment gameplay

[raw birch]

voice appreciation is always apprciated

[frank ether]

I mean if you can bring ammo aura you obviously should

[tall canopy]

Absolutely it's S tier

Whereas fire team and close and kill are F tier

[frank ether]

but the problem is people rely on it as other classes and I find it dumb

[raw birch]

but would u bring fireteam if another vet has surv?

[frank ether]

I think its a genuine gameplay problem for vet because you are expected to have it

[tall canopy]

Yes

[frank ether]

yes

The only reason to ever not take survivalist is pathing reasons

[tall canopy]

That's it

[raw birch]

ok good cuz i play with a friend he always has surv so i thought i make a build around it

[tall canopy]

My commando and shout man are the only ones that don't have it

My other two builds run survivalist

Literally only because of point issues, Vet has to spend more points to get anywhere

[fickle wraith]

USEABLE?

HMM?

[tall canopy]

Only good for scrap, sell it (to me)

I do want a decent Vraks headhunter though

I've heard good things

But can it beat my Helbore?

[fickle wraith]

wait is it a bad gun

or nah

should i take a blessing from that

[quick burrow]

thats a good gun

no respite - headhunter infested - maniac

[tall canopy]

I don't know how Agrip headhunter plays

But it's a good roll for one

[quick burrow]

same but i mean u cant go wrong with that blessing/perk combo

[fickle wraith]

gonna go psyk real quicik

[quick burrow]

its a great rolled gun

[fickle wraith]

oh its the 2 shot gun

2 burst

[carmine cradle]

imperial guard moment, the sequel

[fickle wraith]

it 2 shots flak ragers in the head

at close range

[devout atlas]

Is this actually unattainable rn

[quick burrow]

its bugged

[gusty sonnet]

No, you just need to do matches with an unupgraded aura.

[tall canopy]

a very sad vet l rn

[fickle wraith]

i already have power cycler 4 in my blessing bank
should, in this scenario

1. yoink that brutal momentum
2. just upgrade it to transcendant and change the perks?

[sudden meadow]

which power sword is better?

[fickle wraith]

or at least, only ONE perk - because ill have to probably change the new blessing into PC4 unless im stupid lucky

[tall canopy]

VI at this point

[fickle wraith]

bought this one jsut to have it lol not gonna upgrade it

[turbid turtle]

Is the deadeye penance bugged?

[dusty ferry]

..shovel time?

[devout atlas]

Not really no

[dusty ferry]

damn

Back to waiting until a good shovel comes then

[radiant chasm]

wtf are those perks

making me vomit

those are the worst perks in the game because of how poorly they are calculated

you always want two 25% damage perks, usually flak maniac but it can vary per weapon

[devout atlas]

Hammerblow is okay I guess but not on Shovel lol

[radiant chasm]

also you want uncanny strike and your choice of either decimator or skullcrusher

for blessings

hammerblow is only used on zealot crusher cause it only has one damage blessing

[dusty ferry]

Noted, thanks

Also I just wanted to try some weird crit build :p

[sharp epoch]

you have to optimize shovel cuz its bad

[frank ether]

finally I have it

onslaught 4

[gusty sonnet]

+20% bonus is also usually fine if it came naturally on the weapon

[sharp epoch]

wiah prrfection

[frank ether]

now that I think about is there even a point to flak on hb3

[untold mulch]

Body shots?

[frank ether]

Idk how to go about fixing this helbore

[tall canopy]

it'll help with gunner and flamer body shots

[frank ether]

I guess thats a good point

[dusty ferry]

Have to change perks but i guess perks are good now

[tall canopy]

Trade respite for surgical

[obsidian gust]

https://tenor.com/view/nevermind-i-heard-you-ill-go-out-pop-up-roof-gif-19791307

[frank ether]

my other helbore has maniac/unyielding

[carmine cradle]

average cadian vet

[frank ether]

and the only reason I was on a quest to make more helbores is because I wanted onslaught 4

[tall canopy]

And specialists for Maniacs?

[sharp epoch]

id juat get a better shovel

[frank ether]

maybe swap that to maniac yeah

and then put surgical

[tall canopy]

Mmhm

[dusty ferry]

And I wouldn't :>

I will settle with this for now

[obsidian gust]

thats what i was gonna say Surgical

[tall canopy]

Surgical is goated on Helbore

[obsidian gust]

i normally do Carapace and Unarmored

for the giggles

[sharp epoch]

the below 50 movility on it makes it get one less ddoge

[frank ether]

technically not a godroll

[dusty ferry]

So 5 dodges? Ye that may be annoying

But it should be fiiiiine

[surreal light]

does deadshot work with plasma rifles? i was aiming in but not losing stamina

[sharp epoch]

Idk how many dodges shovel has but its a ptetty big effect

[dusty ferry]

6 dodges

at max that is

I am honestly not concerned about dodging

(it is still 6 dodge)

[acoustic wyvern]

Doesnt work with plasma

[frank ether]

you dont have to dodge as often with shovel

[surreal light]

ok

[dusty ferry]

Yeah that too

[frank ether]

since you apply CC to hordes

[dusty ferry]

It just does not hit hard

[frank ether]

its comfy

yeah

[celest vine]

Managed to nail an extremely good roll last night

[tall canopy]

I used to like shovel before patch 13 but I'm just not vibing with it as much

No idea why

[celest vine]

Shovel moment

[frank ether]

it does respectable damage with decimator ramped u

only problem with shovel is how decimator works

[viscid marlin]

Someone tell fatshark to hurry up on the solo with bots, i want to not take 20 missions to get my no player death weeklies thanks.

[frank ether]

if deci stacks reduced instead of resetting on missing

it would be the perfect comfort melee

where you can just turn brain off and heavy spam

[carmine cradle]

soooo

is this 1% rending?

[dusty ferry]

Yeah this shovel feels very good

[carmine cradle]

well 1-4% rending?

someone said it was 10-40%

[frank ether]

there isnt a percentage there

and %4 rending would be weak af

[carmine cradle]

yes, but rending is a percentage value in game

what do the numbers represent?

does anybody actually know?

[frank ether]

no idea its fatshark

[carmine cradle]

fuck it

[frank ether]

could be %4, could be %40, could be %400

its just fatshark

[viscid marlin]

none of us know, ive asked that for months

[carmine cradle]

oh shit TinyAngryCrab is gone

what the-

[frank ether]

yea

crab gone

its my fault

[untold mulch]

Hopefully he is okay

[frank ether]

I forgot to turn off the pot

[carmine cradle]

what happened to him?

[sharp epoch]

its good hes gone

[frank ether]

no one seems to know

hope he's doing okae

was fun to have him around

[untold mulch]

Best hope he is playtesting more, ans got out so notification are not constant

Worst, Farshark cooked his ass

[sharp epoch]

he was pretty toxic sometimes prob cause if that

[frank ether]

I'd hope so

he knows his stuff

either way I have to take this helbore to a test drive now

[carmine cradle]

im gonna figure this shit out

the rending thing

crab would know 😦

crab smort

[frank ether]

well best way would be to test one with rending and one without

[sharp epoch]

Rending just turns armor types into less armor and it stacks to 40%

[carmine cradle]

you can just remove the blessing

[frank ether]

yeah

if its a free slot

[flat siren]

the keyboard and mouse support isn't very good for XBOX

[carmine cradle]

but then i wouldnt be able to get it back

[wanton dawn]

Honestly it is probably underwhelming for PS

[sharp epoch]

past 40%, 1:4 of the rending turns into damage

[frank ether]

I dont have it myself yet so I cant help you unfortunately

[frank ether]

dont really need it either way

[wanton dawn]

If you want to do really stupid things

Try sunder

[halcyon zephyr]

rest in broil

[sharp epoch]

Vet has some rending talents just turn them on and off to see what rending does

[wanton dawn]

I've fallen in love with it recently

[frank ether]

mk6's push attack more than makes up for its lack of armor pen

[sharp epoch]

is sunder better than slaughterer and brutal?

[frank ether]

it has good damage to carapace on that attack and vet has good weakspot modifiers in talents

its elegant

[wanton dawn]

Well, let's just say that it facilitates some stuff #veteran-class message

[carmine cradle]

testing time

[wanton dawn]

Also works with crusher btw #veteran-class message

[halcyon zephyr]

slaughterer feels bad now man. 1% difference between tier 3 and tier 4.
At least it makes my otherwise perfect power sword a perfect power sword

[wanton dawn]

And finally, the dumbest thing #veteran-class message

[sharp epoch]

I used to use sunder slaughterer before the nerf 🥹

[carmine cradle]

349 is without 10% rending
395 is with 10% rending

for the test im doing

[sharp epoch]

maybe I can use it againn

[carmine cradle]

so now

i gotta give it the blessing

[frank ether]

that is pretty dumb yeah

[carmine cradle]

and we see if it igves more or less than 10%

[frank ether]

probably shouldnt be a thing

[carmine cradle]

ez

[frank ether]

as much as I'm a power sword defender

[sharp epoch]

bro ur losing ur only damage blessing its fine

[halcyon zephyr]

only use power sword, huge power sword defender, still giddy when a power sword nerf comes.
7 charged strikes to 3? Good times.

[sharp epoch]

its always been a thing on powersword but power cycler was mandatory along woth slaughterer

[velvet wraith]

how uncommon are +3 Stam?

first i've seen since I started 2 weeks ago

[carmine cradle]

fucking bruh

[frank ether]

uncommon but not as much as +2 wound which might aswell be unicorn

I would grab that anyways personally

you dont always see +3

[carmine cradle]

with the 4 stakcs of brittleness its 395

[velvet wraith]

i grabbed it

[carmine cradle]

same as the 10% rending

[gusty sonnet]

75 power stamina relic strikes again

[untold mulch]

+2 wound exists!?

[frank ether]

they used to

[carmine cradle]

so its 2.5% brittleness per stack

whack

[gusty sonnet]

btw at 75 you actually dont get 3 stam, only 2

[halcyon zephyr]

+3 max stam is the highest stam curios go. They're rarer at first but you'll start getting more of them.

[sharp epoch]

yeah you guys havent found a two wound yet?

[wanton dawn]

Your standard "no ammo" maelstrom

[frank ether]

doesnt matter either way vet meta seems to be no wounds atm to make up good base stats

[halcyon zephyr]

no one has even posted a "+2 wound" proof that I've seen.

[frank ether]

maybe its a mandela effect thing

I remember seeing one

but problem is I dumped this game closely after release

[sharp epoch]

its just really rare the ppl playing since the beta and now prob have it

[junior needle]

And you would never fire that into 1 enemy unless it was a sniper

[sharp epoch]

i have one too

[junior needle]

I've noticed that whenever I don't kill specials/elites immediately, my team has a tendency of leaving them alive much longer than is acceptable

[frank ether]

I also butchered a few would be godroll weapons

because my brain didnt understand crafting locks

[celest vine]

Plus 2 wounds exist?

I thought they didnt

[halcyon zephyr]

I still don't understand them

[frank ether]

I believe they used to in the beta

[tardy vigil]

Very very early into the beta

[frank ether]

me neither

[celest vine]

You have 4 slots on a gun, two perks two blessing

You can change two of those on one gun

Thats it

So you can change one blessing one perk, two perks, two blessings

[frank ether]

but my dumbass brain legit did not thought fatshark would actually have crafting locks. I jumped in game past crafting update, changed shit around and then later realized I just fucked up a bunch of weapons and got stuff locked

[halcyon zephyr]

Appreciated, bismarck.

Before I change this, flak or carapace? I only intend to use it for horde clear + crusher

[celest vine]

Say you change option 1

You can change option one permanently

[frank ether]

Like I thought there would be a revert button that let you take locks back

[celest vine]

But you will lock yourself out of changing option 3 forever

They will never reset

[frank ether]

yeah

I now know

[celest vine]

Flak

Carapace is too damage tanking for 25% to make a difference

[frank ether]

but early release I was more concerned about like

getting to run the game

at more than 30 fps

without crashes

[celest vine]

Just throw a krak or swap to a chainsword with bleeds to deal with carapace

[halcyon zephyr]

This is what I was looking for, and something I wasn't think ing about. Thanks mayne.

[wanton dawn]

Man I need to review my crusher overhead damage, it is super weird

[celest vine]

If the powersword was actually good against carapace then id say do it

Its not

Chainsword is

[wanton dawn]

It is good against caparace though ?

[celest vine]

Bleed stacks yess

And the shredder of the chainsword does killer damage

[wanton dawn]

I mean, I just posted a video of me man handling a standard maelstrom no ammo pack with ps

[celest vine]

Same with unyielding

[halcyon zephyr]

now it's just silly.

[celest vine]

I use my God gun against most things not unyielding or Carapace

Chainsword is for those guys

[halcyon zephyr]

What's your crit chance by the by?

[celest vine]

45%

[halcyon zephyr]

nice

[celest vine]

Add that one perk woth 10% of the new mag has 10% crit itll bump to 55%

I dont use it tho cause its only 4 rounds

[halcyon zephyr]

Now I want to re-make a MG12.
I haven't touched this gun since maybe march?

[celest vine]

Supression immunity perks is kinda worthless tbh

You can get a perk in the left tree that makes you immune 100% of the time

[halcyon zephyr]

Yup, this was from when I still played way far back and insisted the brauto was a shit gun.
Once I learned to never brace, I stopped using the MG12

[celest vine]

The new 1A is slightly better than the 12

Its within 40 points with damage with double the fire rate

Slighty less damage but double the rate of dire

It doesn’t do much against unyielding

[halcyon zephyr]

auto-mouse hotkey will probably make it king

[celest vine]

But thats what your melee is for

[halcyon zephyr]

Welp, down to my reserve cash so no buying new guns for a bit. But a crit based Ia sounds fun

[celest vine]

Headhunter is better

[eternal sable]

my first 550 in 1200 hours and it had to be grief

[celest vine]

Cause its 20% bonus crit for each non crit headshot you nail

But i dont have that blessing yet

[chilly rover]

do any one no how to do the volly head shots easy

[celest vine]

You keep the chance until you nail a crit headshow

[celest vine]

Shock troop gauntlet with highlighting every enemy

Use an autogun thats semi auto

Vraks headhunter

[halcyon zephyr]

My goofiest rolled weapon. Only put BtE on it to get the highest weapon score I could

[wanton dawn]

Stress

[celest vine]

You eant the burstfire one

[elfin moat]

I have playing for a week now, veteran at lvl 26 and i am still struggling on malice. Running a recon lasgun and chain sword. Am build guides or help i can look into?

[halcyon zephyr]

you're in the right place.

[buoyant thicket]

did they fix the executioner's stance not counting as volley fire in penances

I have this one last penance to do and it's just kill highlighted enemies on heresy with weakpoint hits using volley fire

[celest vine]

Its never been broken in the first place

[buoyant thicket]

and I remember it not working because I was using executioner's stance

[buoyant thicket]

so I can use executioner's stance now?

[celest vine]

You always could

It was never broken

[buoyant thicket]

It was

[wraith locust]

do you know how to dodge every disabler consistently?

[buoyant thicket]

during one use of executioner's stance I actually killed like 10 enemies with weak spot hits and it didn't count

but it starts counting when I switched to volley fire so I just gave up if I can't use an actual build on heresy

[celest vine]

Has to be in a row

With a gun that says “secondary action”

Aim down the sights wont count

[buoyant thicket]

aka aim down sights with las gun

what

[acoustic wyvern]

Melk has blessed us with a PC4

[celest vine]

You have to yse a gun with burst fire

[acoustic wyvern]

finally

[celest vine]

Vraks headhunter

[buoyant thicket]

are you fucking joking

[celest vine]

Not at all

[buoyant thicket]

GRAAAAAAAAAAH

[carmine cradle]

enemy armor is cringe, the weapon pairing

[buoyant thicket]

vraaks headhunter is also aim down sights

[elfin moat]

thank you

[celest vine]

If the gun says aim doen the sights or charge, wont count

[carmine cradle]

sir you have a nazi flag in your profile picture

[elfin moat]

you can dodge those?

[buoyant thicket]

so I need to use braced autogun?

[maiden orbit]

hello hello, how do i change this thingy into something better ?

[celest vine]

Vraks headhunter

[buoyant thicket]

don't bully mentally disabled people

[celest vine]

Three round burst

[buoyant thicket]

vraks headhunter is semi auto

braced autoguns have burst

[celest vine]

But three round burst while aiming

[buoyant thicket]

nope

still semi auto

[elfin moat]

its my great grandfather with a captured nazi flag

[buoyant thicket]

vraks mk6 has semi auto

actually

other ones have burst fire

[celest vine]

The MK3 is burst while aiming

Use that or the boltgun

Both of them have “secondary action” in their tag

[celest vine]

Swap to infantry lasgun, this build works best with that

But keep chainsword

[buoyant thicket]

infantry autogun has secondary action instead of aim down sights

???

[celest vine]

Grenade for hoards, lasgun for most targets, chainsword for heavies

[buoyant thicket]

what the fuck

[celest vine]

That wil work

[buoyant thicket]

I will not question why

[celest vine]

Shock troop guantlet on the torrent assassination is where I got mine done

[sharp ember]

I did a double-take too, but I recognized the american kit on him and the boys

[junior needle]

IAG's have ads, so something is wrong in the equation here

[wooden oar]

opening salvo is poop on the infantry lasgun. The break inbetween shots is way to large to have it proc.

[valid apex]

Yea the stuff is dead brutal momentum and head taker/decimator

[elfin moat]

what perks/blessings should i run?

[sharp ember]

Brutal Momentum, Headtaker

BM isn't broken like it used to be but it still takes multiple heads

Decimator is good too, but Headtaker doesn't fall off if you miss

oh good base stats, Unyielding is useable

the rest, hmm...

[junior needle]

It's good, but not on the 1a and 4 due to being more inclined towards full auto to kill things. It was a meta blessing for the k12 at one point, where you're less inclined to spam and more inclined to one shot something whenever possible.

[late venture]

How do I share ammo as veteran for penance?

[celest vine]

I am well aware, but I dont have headhunter yet so that will do

[manic badger]

That penance is bugged

[celest vine]

Youll want flak, maniac or crit

Deadly accurate, headhunter, or infernus

[late venture]

so no way making it and progress to the last helmet?

[manic badger]

Correct

[celest vine]

Not in thw slightest

May get fixed soon

Keep annoying fatshark about it

[wooden oar]

I use headhunter + Deadly accurate and I one shot most things except for the heavier mobs obviously. Mutant and ragers are two taps. I've tried opening salvo in the past when it was meta and I've done it again recently but it's not worth using with the time inbetween shots. If you have half decent aim you can quickly two tap into a ragers head and with that fire rate opening salvo won't benefit you.

[junior needle]

That would be why it's no longer meta, better alternatives

Deadly accurate used to be 30% I think

[wooden oar]

It was yea. Even then my personal preference went to deadly accurate tho.

[fleet drift]

is it worth it to run to run Suppression skill on my bolter?

[celest vine]

On the MG12 deadly accurate can kill Beast of nurgles just as fast as thunderhammers

Assuming you hit all weakspots

[fleet drift]

or should I just go for weakspot and rending damage?

[celest vine]

5 times better

[wooden oar]

Actually wasn't deadly accurate like 50% at tier 4 at one point? Was there a buff before it went to a 100 at tier 4?

[celest vine]

Doesnt matter its better now

[wooden oar]

Critical Weakspot Damage Bonus From 27.5-50% to 70-100%.

Still wanna hit that 1 million damage with my mg12. 👍

[junior needle]

The 4 is the one with double the fire rate at 5/s, 1a has about 1.46x the fire rate of the k12. It does have more straight dps, but the damage differences per shot can either be slightly lower or much higher than 40.

[tawny pawn]

what kind of perks/blessings should i look for in a chainsword?

[sharp ember]

Flak + Maniac/Unarmored/Unyielding

Rampage + Savage Sweep/Wrath/Bloodletter (for single target specialization)

[tawny pawn]

aight thank you ❤️

[sharp ember]

a bloodletter chainsword with unyielding will do massive damage to a boss

one of my favorites

[crude fiber]

is dead shot still not working with plasma gun?

[viscid marlin]

no

i doubt they will make it work with it

but who knows

[halcyon zephyr]

legend. How do we get his kit ingame?

[elfin moat]

I'll speak to the banana bois on it

[grizzled pebble]

[forest maple]

What does the stamina generation on curios does again?

just speed the regen when it starts?

[sharp ember]

if you have a stamina regen delay reduction node, it's really nice for holding ground against a horde

assuming a sustained engagement

[valid apex]

Claw just kills it all

Hold w and win

Need stamina regen prolly if you’re using a psword

[frosty oar]

Guards, i miss my old pinning fire on my bolter

[wanton dawn]

Wanna see something dumb ?

#veteran-class message

[frosty oar]

autopistol became trash after fatshark nerfed pinning fire

[sharp ember]

friendship ended with autopistol

[frosty oar]

seriously, i don't understand why after all these fixes they still nerfed that.

[sharp ember]

it's just a mobility tool with good stagger and acceptable anti-maniac and anti-shooter at close range

now revolver is the crazy gun to use

[south spindle]

Also Laspistol, people are sleepin on that big time

[sharp ember]

laspistol is mad fun now that it's virtually recoilless

[umbral scaffold]

what has better consistency? surgical or headhunter?

[sharp ember]

maybe a bit ammo hungry though

[umbral scaffold]

how is autopistol with powderburn and supression bonuses?

[charred tree]

What are the best blessings for the Shredder?

[tall torrent]

Depends on what you’re going for
Consistent & continuous headshot spam? Headhunter
Precise aiming for maximum 1 taps? Surgical

[wooden oar]

Can’t have surgical on a mg12

[umbral scaffold]

sry it was a question based of the vraks mk7 headhunter

my bad

[tall torrent]

Surgical

[frosty oar]

surgical costs your time.
headhunter test your aim.

i prefer headhunter because i hate spending time waiting.

[umbral scaffold]

inshallah

do you mix headhunter with deadshot? or is it too steep of a talent investment?

[tall torrent]

I don’t think deadshot works particularly amazing for mk7 headhunter because the recoil when spammed is somewhat erratic and headhunter (blessing) requires u to continually hit headshots for crits

Headhunter blessing is much stronger on Mk3 headhunter than on Mk7

[viscid marlin]

I can now finally perfect parry a plague ogryn to death on damnation without taking damage. This is a big achievement for me in my steps moving forward to master the devil claw mk7. Hooray.

[umbral scaffold]

nice

[viscid marlin]

I use surgical on mine with deadshot and its a pretty high crit chance, not every single shot is a crit but most of them are, probably around 70%

[frosty oar]

good, now try the chaos spawn

[viscid marlin]

fff.. you right though.

[tall torrent]

Deadshot + surgical works better than deadshot + headhunter

[viscid marlin]

baby steps

[tall torrent]

Headhunter requires u to spam shots into head

And u drain stamina faster that way

[viscid marlin]

Oh headhunter, yeah i dont like headhunter on the vraks 7

i like surgical a lot more

you right, on the vraks 3 headhunter is amazing

but i wouldnt use it on the 7

[frosty oar]

maybe it's time i pick up my vraks 7 again.

[viscid marlin]

@frosty oar ..Honestly im not sure ill ever be able to solo the chaos spawn, those attacks are way too spammy to parry, you will get hit regardless

[frosty oar]

the key is to avoid being caught.

kinda like the sekiro stuff

but i won't say that is easy

[viscid marlin]

I mean i can avoid the grab, but the dodge isnt enough to side step all the attacks

eventually somewhere in its combo you will get hit by something

[frosty oar]

exactly

[viscid marlin]

i dont have enough dodges and blocks to full 100% that with no damage, im just not sure its even possible

[south spindle]

Chaos Spawn is certainly soloable, its just the least easy to solo (not incl' DH)

[viscid marlin]

oh i can kill it, i just cant kill it without taking any damage

if there is a combination of things you need to do to kill it with no damage taken, i havent found it yet

[frosty oar]

i tried several times in meat grinding, but it just didn't work in the missions.

[viscid marlin]

yeah

'i mean its always different in mission

ill settle for 100% no damage taken on the plague ogryn for now

and i can about 50% the chaos spawn

maybe if i use voice of command i can keep it off of me long enough for it to reset without taking damage if i parry it perfectly but that seems unrealistic in mission

[frosty oar]

such tiny brain, if there is one.

[viscid marlin]

yeah thats the other thing

hitting the head on that thing is hard

[manic badger]

The good axe is the Rashad combat right?

[viscid marlin]

thats not a parry

but also geez how much block cost reudction do you have

[halcyon zephyr]

those are blocks, and where is your stamina bar homie it's so small

[viscid marlin]

you're taking such low block damage

wait since when?

[frosty oar]

i mean plague orgryn

[viscid marlin]

?!

shit, im trying that right now

do any others have built in block?

damn

that certainly got mega buffed then

cause it was pretty ass before

ill try it out

any particular version you recommend?

word

cause of the block stab?

fair

[humble storm]

I love that power sword now

[viscid marlin]

rending tree or just straight powersword?

[humble storm]

Blockstab light light = drool

[uneven violet]

thoughts on my god roll plasma gun?

[viscid marlin]

what in the f-

ive seen it all now

[frosty oar]

wtf

[uneven violet]

[frosty oar]

charge rate 0%

[uneven violet]

0%

like actually

i didnt even know that was possible

[frosty oar]

by the god emperor

what are the machine heads doing

[candid bridge]

if i switch power cycler 3 off a sword to another blessing then consecrate it to orange, will it have a chance of getting power cycler 4?

[atomic zephyr]

this worth nabbing?

[candid bridge]

nice

ty

[little pagoda]

does that mean it just doesn’t charge

[uneven violet]

i should give it a try

hol up

[frosty oar]

part of the machine spirit went on a strike, it seems

[uneven violet]

it takes like 4 seconds for it to charge up

[tall torrent]

Need to see a clip of it

[uneven violet]

and theres a second delay in normal shots

[frank ether]

I like surgical on vraks 3 and headhunter on 7 which sounds backwards but vraks crits the entire chain if the initial hit crits

[tall torrent]

Headhunter gains 2 stacks when u crit on weakpoint with Mk3 headhunter

[frank ether]

easier to wait a moment and crit the entire burst

preference at the end of the day

[frosty oar]

true

[untold kernel]

Just got this from consecration, haven't tested out lawbringer in ages but heard it was good with patch 14
Anyone got any recommendations for what to do with this?

[frosty oar]

or just turn to plasma

[halcyon zephyr]

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't repair weapons between picking them off a reject's body and selling it to us

[frosty oar]

scattershot + flechette

[untold kernel]

Cheers

[dull osprey]

What blessings to pick for Power Sword other than power cycler?

[frosty oar]

literally bleeding out all the enemies

[dull osprey]

Slaughterer + or Sunder o.o?

[frosty oar]

slaugherer for me, not sure if it is the best one this patch

[junior needle]

Brudal lets you get first target damage on multiple enemies

[shell ginkgo]

Slaughterer or Rampage

[dull osprey]

Righto righto tyty

Hmm thats fair good point

[wanton dawn]

Power Cycler + sunder are the best IMO

[tall torrent]

Outside of swapping shred to brutal momentum
Is there anything else I can do to make this thing viable on vet

Why is 7 the worst
I thought mk4 was the worst with its move set

[frank ether]

keep it in a corner

axes in this game have the worst attack patterns

[timber phoenix]

man the columnus with new ammo reserve buff really kicks some ass

i'm not even using optimal blessings and im feeling real good using it with my build

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304299548019523594/1170808084264927252/image.png?ex=655a62ff&is=6547edff&hm=1cbb559f1c84b5e7c5a4bd3f0d01c0b8b586d68b652e86fecda0401809a8d28f&

[wraith locust]

How did that zealot pick up 12 ammo and still kill nothing

[forest maple]

huh? what is a heavy autogun even\

[tall torrent]

I like the brutal simplicity of axes

[frank ether]

I like big cleave

[timber phoenix]

idk just named it that. I got that weapon customization mod and turned it into an LMG so i thought i'd rename it

[forest maple]

Ah, its from the customization mod hahaha, i was like, wait you are a veteran so, what is this gun i'm seeing right now 😄

[timber phoenix]

ye, add the pew pew mod and it literally feels like another gun with new sounds, a big mag, new name

[finite imp]

Columnus goes BZZZZZZZZZ

Pew pew mod?

[agile sluice]

what's the best Infantry Autogun model btw?

[finite imp]

Isn't that like an opinion

[formal relic]

what are people doing with curio perks?

[forest maple]

i take tough-tough-hp with tough/hp/combat ability recharge on all my builds, and i change one tough curio with x3 stam when using deadshot builds

[wanton dawn]

I did a quick test BM vs sunder on 100 poxwalkers. Performance were about the same but test condition would favor bm

Still, both option takes less than 20s

kk

[dusk jacinth]

did you guys know

tony soprano is the veteran

sharpshooter

[wanton dawn]

But i have to stay, test condition would still favor bm

[rotund pasture]

should I run Crucian Roulette 4 + Handcannon 4 on my revolver or Surgial 4 + Handcannon 4

[wanton dawn]

on 100 bruiser bm win VS sunder in test condition

[tawdry swan]

Im not that knowledgeable at the game yet but I think the obvious best choice is hand cannon and surgical precision

I think

[wanton dawn]

on 5 maulers sunder win vs bm in test condition

[valid apex]

Ding ding ding

[valid apex]

What melee wep do you think is best?

I’m pretty set on claw4….

[fickle wraith]

can u tell i came to help my friend

we did heresy qp and it was low intens

[wanton dawn]

I think PS is the one that allows the silliest things

[valid apex]

What scoreboard mod is that? Yours looks so much more clean than mine. Fuck

[finite imp]

What do

[tranquil moth]

Is there a sub in here that already has builds for guns?

[wanton dawn]

On 5 flak rager sunder and bm have similar performance in test condition. Again test condition heavily favor bm

[finite imp]

excellent question.

[fickle wraith]

uh its just the ovenproof one

[finite imp]

doesnt seem to be

[fickle wraith]

hey guys

what are bis blessings for bolter

[subtle hornet]

Does it work? https://youtube.com/shorts/Bj2RdOgoEzg?si=wBGTOaaAByF51K0i

[timber phoenix]

i'ts a mod that changes gun sounds

[finite imp]

oh nice is it on the nexus?

[timber phoenix]

ye just search up "pew" on nexus

[finite imp]

thanks man

[dull osprey]

Ovenproof o_o?

[subtle hornet]

Why i cant shoot through walls with plazma?

[wanton dawn]

Looking at my test I still think sunder is more useful than BM on PS. While BM did way better on the 100 bruisers test, sunder does better against flak elite, is not dependent on weakspot hit, has better stagger distribution and hit other enemies through bulwark shield

#veteran-class message

[dusty ferry]

Is Hand Cannon an ok option for stub revolver

I do not know if I want to use it because it one hits most specialists (gunners or bombers) on weak spot hits but maybe for tankier targets it would be good

Ah alright

[wanton dawn]

BM is better on mono-target, it is not really a question

But being able to hit through bulwark is really, really dumb

[dusty ferry]

I will think about it, thanks

[flint lake]

blessings on plasma are unimpactful

Blaze Away is likly BIS

but perks are more important

[mellow bridge]

You know what would be an amazing weapon for the haymaker blessing? Shovel

[subtle hornet]

What about shooting through walls?

[flint lake]

it can shoot through thin objectects

some walls

[wanton dawn]

I think my PS would 2 shot crusher without crit nor weakspot node if it had carapace

[ruby totem]

You need to kinda test what you can shoot through

[dusty ferry]

oh
surgical and hand cannon would be a bit of a mean combo to run

[ruby totem]

for instance, it can have some trouble if you try to shoot through the corner of a box rather than through 2 opposite faces

[wanton dawn]

cannot OS bulwark without crit though

[subtle hornet]

So, what in video? Fake or old?

[tawny pawn]

think i'm enjoying melee/support shout vet

still not sure about my ranged option though

maybe give laspistol a try, but duno how to build it

[flint lake]

As Batty said, you need to experiment but the object penetration isn't infinite. A couple of objects that you'll be able to reliably shoot through though are catwalk floors, sheet metal, and airlock doors.

[wanton dawn]

Is this even legal ?

[dusty ferry]

Mmm true, but what if you build 100% crit chance in 3 seconds? Would that not guarantee a crit, triggering HC proc (for me it is 70% rending)

I have not really bothered a lot with blessings

[wanton dawn]

The point was to compare bm and sunder

[odd sparrow]

You need deadshot bc the crit multiplier is nutty on laspistol. Definitely also take lasgun ammo refund on crit.

[dusty ferry]

What is BM

[wanton dawn]

I can achieve up to 45% crit on melee i think by myself

[tawny pawn]

ah i see, thank you

[wanton dawn]

Brutal momentum

[dusty ferry]

Ah

[subtle hornet]

What?

[subtle hornet]

Hmm, ok, thanks.

[tranquil moth]

Just got netted through a wall, ggs trapper

[wanton dawn]

what what ?

[flint lake]

Oh and bulwark sheilds.

[trim steppe]

Classic. Happens to me at minimum once a week

[tall torrent]

Can anyone confirm if ghost (ranged attack immunity on weakspot hit) activates both duck & dive and reciprocity?

Reciprocity says +5% crit chance for 8s on successful dodge, stacks 5 times