veteran-class

[delicate moat]

oh btw a question, does this game not have any iframes when u are getting picked up

[twin ingot]

It kind of does

You need to have stamina before picking up people

[delicate moat]

no as in you are the one getting* picked up

[twin ingot]

You're fully protected when getting picked up

[delicate moat]

yeah but the instant you are up

[twin ingot]

Nope just hope in the Emperor you don't have crushers winding up their weapon the second you get up, besides most of the time people want to clear out enemies around you before they pick you up

[white minnow]

nothing like l4d2 yeah

you can get instantly sniped the moment you get picked up and die

[sharp ember]

you get full toughness but no iframes

[white minnow]

have fun with that when it happens

[sharp ember]

hope your teammate doesn't revive you into a crusher overhead

[drowsy leaf]

a better shovel

[twin ingot]

Literally what I wrote

[drowsy leaf]

wish I could get a better hadron roll but this works for what i use it for, mostly trash killing

[astral blade]

well i may as well flaunt my newest frame lol

[delicate moat]

good idea i havent changed frames for a long time

[cunning wing]

Well yeah...way easier to carry as zealot...

Now i can upgrade my Vet

[delicate moat]

other stats dont matter but 1st in resource pick up is real mvp

[cunning wing]

my lobby left 3 times that game.

jeez

[sly niche]

Infested to Flak and then what?

[round yacht]

What 2 should i change to make this better? i know i need to reroll the gun fully but its gonna be a while before i do that and i wanna use it meanwhile

[zealous wyvern]

sprint and raking byebye i would say

definitely want flak or maniac on that perk

do not actually know about blessing though

[round yacht]

out of the ones i got saved this gives damage. should i go for it?

[zealous wyvern]

maybe with dum you do not need maniac

ragers will die due to your dumdum stacks i guess

flak might be more useful overall then

[round yacht]

Ok so go flak+crit for perks then dumdum + deathspitter on blessings?

[zealous wyvern]

well id say go change it to deathspitter and if anyone has a better idea you can just change it

[round yacht]

Ok true

thanks for the help :D

[zealous wyvern]

deathspitter sounds ok to me but i do not know about auto blessings

[round yacht]

Oh sh** im 5 platsteel short LOL

[zealous wyvern]

ouch

[sharp ember]

you could keep raking fire and change both perks

Flak + Maniac

[zealous wyvern]

raking might be decent for stealthing?

[sharp ember]

i see raking fire and deathspitter as kinda equal

[round yacht]

i have shout on this build then rest is mostly right tree

[dusky flare]

crit chance is pretty good on clumnus

[sharp ember]

because deathspitter encourages horde shooting, it often drops when firing into elites

[zealous wyvern]

i think raking is pretty meh

unless stealthing

[astral blade]

raking fire and dumdum

[round yacht]

Yea the only time i shoot stuff in the back is when its a bulwark aggrod on someone else or a monstrosity

[zealous wyvern]

but its nice for taking out a group of specials or elites to have deathspitter

[sharp ember]

but my angle is more for having Flak + Maniac than justifying Raking Fire tbh

[astral blade]

use raking fire only on stealth build

[placid portal]

ye raking fire vs monsters is highly effective vs Beast of Nurgle

[astral blade]

ya stupid if you think raking fire is shit otherwise

[placid portal]

I mean 40% damage boost is NOT a small number

[astral blade]

don't forget 6% from dumdum

which stacks 5 times

[forest scaffold]

dumdum stacks

damn beat me to it

[placid portal]

ye so effective 100% power when using stealth cqc buff

40% + 30% + 30% while in 8ms

[nimble hazel]

Slap some poor motherfucker with your sword first

Get that Agile Engagement going

[placid portal]

Suppression seems to be really useful to force enemies to run away from you to have a shot from the back

[astral blade]

you stupid

[zealous wyvern]

hey

[placid portal]

Strip down is not dumb dumb

[zealous wyvern]

i only said that assuming they are not stealthing

[placid portal]

supression tends to force enemies to retreat

[zealous wyvern]

i think raking fire is not the way to go unless you play around it

[placid portal]

True

[astral blade]

[zealous wyvern]

i do not think i deserve stupid for that

[sharp ember]

suppression is funny af

[placid portal]

Agreed

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[round yacht]

Yea im this, and the rest is mostly right tree + up to confirmed kill on middle

[sharp ember]

i unironically like it for pepping 5 rounds downrange to get the entire shooter patrol to stop firing for a bit

[placid portal]

HEY HE'S DOING HIS BEST YOU KEEP HIM OUT OF THIS

[zealous wyvern]

wolf is a very rude person

i will not stay here now

goodnight

[placid portal]

Esp when ogryn counting to two is VERy smart

[zealous wyvern]

see you tomorrow

[placid portal]

ye

[astral blade]

not rude just hate people who shit on blessings that are hidden gems

[round yacht]

Hey thanks for the help anyway, see you o/

[zealous wyvern]

i did not shit on it

and you hating me for that is pathetic

i gotta go to bed though it is way too late

i hope you are just messing around

[dapper vessel]

Vet chat beef 👀

[round yacht]

oo pretty pink name

[sharp ember]

agent of slaanesh

[dapper vessel]

its true, I am degen

[placid portal]

This is some good stuff

[zealous wyvern]

i would also like to add i said twice that i am not sure and just thinking along based on my experience. i was not saying what is and is not the true gems

[astral blade]

in all seriousness those you would be a fool to remove raking fire or dumdum on the col

[placid portal]

Tbf

[dapper vessel]

what are we arguing about

[placid portal]

there's nothing more to choose for IAG blessings anyway

[dapper vessel]

good stuff

[round yacht]

this

[dapper vessel]

[placid portal]

but yea raking fire needs to have a build to play around tbh

[dapper vessel]

Dumdum already makes the columnus insanely good

[astral blade]

seriously those 2 blessing right there are perfect for that gun if a stealth vet

[placid portal]

Dum Dum is Gud Gud

[dapper vessel]

the 2nd blessing is what you want with it

nothing wrong with Raking

I'd say switch those 2 ass perks instead

[placid portal]

dunno Like strip down for defensive counter fire

[dapper vessel]

just run Iron will and confirmed kill

or exhilirating takedown

ez

[placid portal]

Sadge strip down spd boost is gone

[dusky flare]

what is stealth vet supposed to do

[placid portal]

Flank

Objectives

[dapper vessel]

This is how you are getting as close as the old Unwavering Focus btw

[placid portal]

Or just say "Not my problem"

[astral blade]

revive

[astral blade]

this

[placid portal]

It's more of a "Nope" Card

[dusky flare]

just go shout

[placid portal]

or if you're insane a re-engage tool if you wanna top off toughness and dive right back in

Ye

[sharp ember]

"brb gonna let you guys take the heat because that's all you're good for while i kill the special"

[placid portal]

Yep

[astral blade]

yep i am insane

[placid portal]

Super Selfish buff

But not benefit other than running away

[low kelp]

I really like the shout in auric. No revive so it has reach+low cooldown

shoot a couple specials and keep the buff going

[dapper vessel]

I run shout without revives

[placid portal]

Ye

why would you anyways

[dapper vessel]

15 more seconds for those situations where the team got themselves downed

just tank it with your stamina or just toss a nade

[upper lichen]

i mean when two team mates go down in the middle of a horde the shout revive can be pretty damn clutch lol

[low kelp]

I'm trying the middle keystone with it and its a little awkward but the 20% damage being spammed teamwide is just making sticky situations melt

[dapper vessel]

no need to invest 1 point to do revives

[low kelp]

If you're spamming the shout they wont go down lol

[placid portal]

Ye that +toughness buff is insane

[upper lichen]

ehhh i play enough quickplay solo queue to know thats not true lol

[low kelp]

There's enough specials in auric half the time you can cast the shout before the previous one runs out without the revive

[upper lichen]

lots of people doesnt matter how much toughness you give em

they're going down

[dapper vessel]

Comp Urge procs outside of coherency too

[placid portal]

I am trad volley fire gamer

[sharp ember]

then they go down again once you shout them back up

[upper lichen]

but they take the heat while i have shield 😄

[placid portal]

Just bc a Mauler was doing Overhead

[low kelp]

\

[placid portal]

Such a fucking conumdrum

[low kelp]

Thinks I wish I knew

now I have to not skip that

[placid portal]

get revived but Mauler Dunks you back down

[sharp ember]

they can take the heat on the floor

[dapper vessel]

yeah Comp Urge is good

[sharp ember]

might even last longer that way

[upper lichen]

but not as funny

[dapper vessel]

Fatshark is infamous in just how bad they are at telling the playerbase what certain things does

[hollow turtle]

I think longshot actually does make a difference.

[old canyon]

1

[sharp ember]

Comp Urge wild

free damage

[low kelp]

I really need to actually look up guides and such. I've just been guessing everything.

[dapper vessel]

eeeh you can just ask here

[low kelp]

But doing ok in auric so can't be that bad lol

[dapper vessel]

google info might be outdated or downright wrong

[minor iron]

why do i see some people saying to dump damage stat on the chainaxe?

[low kelp]

Steam guides is usually a good source iirc

was for vermintide at least

[sharp ember]

weird take, is this from reddit?

[upper lichen]

only updated one i can find is for ogryn

[dapper vessel]

I never heard of anyone saying this

[sharp ember]

chainaxe isn't in a good place right now but that doesn't mean dump damage

[minor iron]

probably just a meme then

[dapper vessel]

for chainaxe its Mobility or Defences that you can dump

[sly niche]

Thanks for the rank 3 Gets Hot I suppose.

[dapper vessel]

Yeah this seems like a good build

Only thing I'll swap is Get back in the fight for Catch a Breath instead

[low kelp]

Its for plasma + power sword. Shared toughness regen swwms to work real well since i can headshot a line with the plasma gun and (hopefully) share a bunch of toughness regen from Exhil takedown

[delicate moat]

jokes on u i regen toughness by going down

[low kelp]

I was using it but auric there always seems to be that one guy nearby so I don't get much toughness out of it

[dapper vessel]

I would swap that Wrath for Rampage instead on the Power Sword

[astral blade]

ya know whats funny catch a breath is just basically the loner aura

[dapper vessel]

IIRC you can already 2 shot muties now without maniac

[low kelp]

[dapper vessel]

so I'll probably switch that Maniac for something like Elites instead on the Plasma

[dapper vessel]

Oh and if you didnt know

Grenade Tinkerer has this weird bug that adds stun immunity on melee

[delicate moat]

what

[shadow dagger]

yeah that was a thing from what i remember

[dapper vessel]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1A79I6_5hFFyT6/d1337beNG4GE?invite=cr-MSwzVk4sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

Still havent been fixed

[delicate moat]

wtf

i never noticed

maybe because i always run grenade tinkerer

[dapper vessel]

Thy Grenades Be Swift

[dusky flare]

Thy Bugfix Be Unswift

[fervent quiver]

Doing this for a krieg vet

my vet is Cadian

[low kelp]

Should I try for the other power sword? Never used it. I pretty much exclusively use the 'double heavy sweep' for hordes on power sword and plasma gun for all else.

[sharp ember]

cadian flak suit NEVER

[fervent quiver]

I now have a question for all

[dapper vessel]

I'll probably go for Shock Trooper since this is a Helbore youre using

[fervent quiver]

What melee weapon

[dapper vessel]

Power Sword is what I'll play it with

[delicate moat]

church of mk7

[dapper vessel]

Mark 3 power sword is fine

But objectively speaking Mark 6 is in a better spot right now

[fervent quiver]

which krieg trooper would have a ps?

[dapper vessel]

You can push this to 2 shotting or even 1 shotting Crushers and Maulers IIRC

[low kelp]

With melee related talents or just on the weapon itself?

[dapper vessel]

In the clip I have Onslaught and Rending Strikes active

For the blessings you want Power Cycler and Brutal Momentum on it

[low kelp]

Out of plasteel, time to farm regular damnation :(

At least its useful for hordes right now

[dapper vessel]

I have a build in the threads specifically to play melee Vet with the Mark 6

I go down to reach the bottom red node on the bottom right

and I REALLY NEED Brutal Momentum Tier 4 now

And a new power sword ig

[low kelp]

I wish I stopped getting good stuff for my vet on my psyker and zealot >:(

[dusky flare]

psword is more of a non melee vet sweapon

low benefit from both crit and attack speed

[old quail]

making a pacifist build

[low kelp]

Like I got this on my zealot (Dunno if blessings are decent, but I want to try an autogun on vet)

[dapper vessel]

the true solo play build

running smokes unironically too

[old quail]

the other 2 blitz options hurt people

if i kill anyone the run is lost

i am a conscientous objector

[dapper vessel]

TF2 REFERENCE

[old quail]

the plan is to do this on archivum

because i did it on zealot

but i killed people

and so i am optimizing my gameplay to not kill people

[dapper vessel]

Surely Hab Dreyko is the better map to do solo play

[old quail]

have u seen the end event

hell no lmao

[dapper vessel]

its I think the shortest map in the game

[old quail]

the problem isnt the map length

its the

"do the objective" part that slows u down

[low kelp]

I thought shortest map is that one assassination on... torrent?

[old quail]

my run on zealot took 11 mins, over half of it at the end

[old quail]

problem is u have to kill at least 1 guy

i am merciful

i will not take another beings life

[low kelp]

The assassin target isn't a person so its ok

[dapper vessel]

Theres nothing quite like frantically searching for that TINY scanning object

while being harrassed by poxwalkers and shotgunners

[low kelp]

Its just bodvarr from vermintide ported into darktide

[old quail]

the plan is to have a scoreboard with 0 damage at the end

[low kelp]

a total joke

[fervent quiver]

I'll be using my ca for my krieg

[delicate moat]

are there any hb3 breakpoints for base stats / perks?

[old quail]

i have to get rid of about 45k damage

and i will have done it

[placid portal]

HB is hellbore?

[delicate moat]

yeah

[placid portal]

Maniac is nice

Kills Flamers in 1 shot

[spark arrow]

im trying to learn the way of the devils claw. is the only difference between the 3 attack animations?

[delicate moat]

[placid portal]

Which devil claw may I ask?

[dapper vessel]

not even 0 damage

L

L

[placid portal]

[spark arrow]

i have a IV and a VII that are both workable

[low kelp]

On that previous thing yaou said can I still one hit kill ragers with body shots if I take off maniac from plasma gun?

[dapper vessel]

Headshots

IIRC its 2 shots on LMB and 1 shot on charged shots

[low kelp]

I don't want to rely on headshots for that since oftentimes I'm trying to line up and kill 10 of them in middle of a horde

in a line

[dapper vessel]

do keep in mind Plasma also has this weird thing with its attacks

like the damage you do on a Plasma, both LMB and RMBis tied to the Plasma's charged rate and it has something to do with the server's tick rate

[old quail]

i am honing my skills

[dapper vessel]

so the most optimal charge rate stat to roll on Plasma is between 71-73%

at 80% you'll just lose damage, or rather do less damage than the optimal charge rate

[dapper vessel]

hmmm, test out how well it works in the Psykh I will say

[low kelp]

If only it didn't cost plasteel to swap >:(

[placid portal]

Ok I just tried out with my lucius mk3 and realised it's better to headshot Maulers

[dapper vessel]

See if with and without maniac it helps with any of the breakpoints

[placid portal]

[low kelp]

I seem to barely hit breakpoint with maniac. Vs flak ragers I don't hit breakpoint unless I shout before I shoot

[dapper vessel]

Well yeah Scab Ragers aka the armored Ragers is Flak

[low kelp]

yea I'm using +flak +maniac

[dapper vessel]

ah

[placid portal]

Armored Ragers seems a bit less durable than Maniacs

then again

[dapper vessel]

optimally the threshold you wanna pass on the Plasma is having both Damage and stopping power at and above 76%

[placid portal]

flak armor dmg mitigation is different vs Maniac for alot of weapons

[low kelp]

I don't use plasma gun to kill crushers. Instead I just lmb headshot them to knock them down and let others finish them off

(If I don't have a krak that is)

[fervent quiver]

how hard is it to use the helbor up close

[dapper vessel]

IIRC Helbores have reverse damage falloff

[low kelp]

Didn't they just fix that?

[dapper vessel]

so the farther you are from a target, the more damage

hmmm

[low kelp]

I vaguely remember seeing in patch notes they undid the reverse falloff

[sharp ember]

that's for the mk6 recon lasgun only

which they wanted to normalize to be like other recons

[placid portal]

Wow Handcannon Blessing is bugged AF

XDD

[low kelp]

Ah I see that now yea

[placid portal]

But usually it's not often noticable

[low kelp]

In what way? I have that one but never tried it

[placid portal]

The handcannon blessing also works on your melee crits

So you can rend straight through crushers

*if it crits

[fervent quiver]

I have no damn idea what the plan is with this kriegboy

[low kelp]

Isn't handcannon blssing like, 80% rending on crit?

[placid portal]

ye

[low kelp]

Because I have that on my zealot and that sounds gross

[placid portal]

I deal 1k+ with a overhead strike with the claw

XDD

[delicate moat]

madge brunt giving low 300s

[placid portal]

sheesh

More Ordos to the grinder

[fervent quiver]

I have krieg boy with shout and close combat killzone

but with a hb and a cs

[placid portal]

Handcannon is insane you can 2 tap crushers with crits

[upper lichen]

why do people get so panicked about bursters and shoot them regardless of how close they are to their team mates.... just had someone send two of us in a row flying off the map cuz they one shotted the burster instead of letting us shove em

[delicate moat]

burster squishy

pop = funny

[lone yoke]

vet is shouting "shoot it! shoot it!"

[placid portal]

^

[low kelp]

Wow I can one shot with my ironhelm now without the 3sec stealth on zealot lmao

on crushers

[placid portal]

Now we can make it insane and nuke bosses as well

[delicate moat]

time to farm dam for dockets and plasteel again

the RNG to craft a HB3 is not with me

[placid portal]

Damnation Gaming?

[delicate moat]

yes

[placid portal]

nice

[delicate moat]

damnation for plasteel

i wish i can convert some of my diamantine to plasteel

[low kelp]

lmao I'm killing crushers with dagger lmb

not instagibbing but killing in a couple seconds of lmb spam

[wanton dawn]

Am testing some dumb crap

[bold matrix]

Looks interesting

[low kelp]

Somehow this looks easier than 4 maulers and a regular horde coming from all directions

[wanton dawn]

I think I can do 10 crushers

not easy though

[fervent quiver]

I am blessed

I might actually be able to get a mk3 over 500

for once

[low kelp]

power dump stat on all three >:)

[fervent quiver]

and there's the... undesirable given to me above them

[low kelp]

[fervent quiver]

like wtf

why

[bold matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40-warhameer-omnisia-omnissia-mechanicus-gif-11551231392329206260

[fervent quiver]

and also a plasma gun I grabbed from the melky store

372 modifiers, this is gonna be fun

[wanton dawn]

Well that is kinda dumb

[fervent quiver]

well that was kinda dumb

[delicate moat]

i want a pox hound trinket

[fervent quiver]

Imma have to dump so many into actual plasma gun blessings

What should I be going for on the bottom blessing

[gray belfry]

some people swear by shattering impact to help with bosses.

[minor iron]

is there a good build guide for stealth vet? ive been using shout and its fun but im wondering if stealth would end up being more consistent as im starting to jump into auric levels

[spark arrow]

i feel like build is very gun dependent. stealth/shout look very similar assuming the same loadoutr

[minor iron]

im hard maining revolver right now since i rolled a near perfect one and end up going back to it anytime i try something else

[fervent quiver]

Crit machine stealth boi?

[minor iron]

pretty much

[fervent quiver]

Don't really know then, it's pretty similar buildwise to shouties

[minor iron]

i just dislike having to split myself between 3 different trees to do anything, feels like i would be missing out on too much QoL

[fervent quiver]

Krakers, grenade refills, middle probably

I think you go middle stealth then middle for boss slaying

[minor iron]

would potentially miss out on a little of the crit boosters on left tree, and i feel like i crutch hard on those to 1 tap 90% of specials/elites in auric

[spark arrow]

id probably rock something like this

[minor iron]

why bleed frags over krak?

[spark arrow]

woops

missed stockpile

[fervent quiver]

I would switch the bleed to the other one on the right side

[spark arrow]

you can adjust it to your liking

and id drop tinkerer for stockpile

[minor iron]

i dont feel like i get the same use out of grenades that others seem to get unless its kraks for monstrosities

[fervent quiver]

The third part varies the most

[shadow dagger]

whats the difference between rashad and antax

[fervent quiver]

You can usually just adjust that one

[shadow dagger]

both feel like they have more or less the same moveset other than antax having a slow ass heavy wind up

[spark arrow]

i dunno, i like to try to overcome shortcommings in the guns/wep. you cant deal with hordes of ragers well with a HC so frags fix that

[minor iron]

as far as i know, they have the same moveset, but antax is better than rashad unless you have a near perfect rolled rashad, which is then better than the antax. high finesse on the rashad making it faster than the antax

[spark arrow]

also dot ticks stack onslauight so it can prime a target for you to blow up with your revolver

[minor iron]

oh i didnt know that

[spark arrow]

but onslauight on its own is kinda crap with a slow gun

same with infernus

also also, hc doesnt need rending if your using hand cannon blessing (which you should be)

[minor iron]

yeah ive got HC 4 and surgical 4 on it

[spark arrow]

so depending on blessings you can shorten mid tree a bit

ok revising lol

[minor iron]

is there a good reason why people use the mk3 power sword over the mk7 one? what am i missing with that? thinking about starting the power sword grind

[spark arrow]

maybe something like this then

play into crit and prime big targets with frags

[fervent quiver]

Mk3 clears, mk7 kills bosses and big bois

[minor iron]

ah, so mk3 would be better for my needs

[fervent quiver]

People have done funny shit with the mk7

[minor iron]

ill give this a shot and see how it feels. thanks a ton for taking the time to make this

[fervent quiver]

Like shove to jab for the entire health pool

[minor iron]

sounds like ill eventually want to farm for both then

[fervent quiver]

Mk7 has good lights, mk3 has good heavies

[spark arrow]

i think the PS6 is just outright better than 3 overall, but harder to use

im trying to get away from power swords right now, im too dependant on them. they're super duper momentum weapons. amazing when your ahead of the action, but as soon as you slip behind they get me killed

[fervent quiver]

Had a stupid moment with the ps3

Got out of a corner with 100 infected wanting me dead

[minor iron]

sounds similar to the devils claw issue. everyone i see uses mk4 but i dont know if theres a specific reason why. i adore the mk1's always horizontal heavies. im just wondering what info im missing out on

and most seem to stick the mk7 in the trash as soon as they see it

[valid bluff]

Mk 4 has a good push block overhead into overhead heavy combo, and can clear hoards with light > heavy spam quite well

[spark arrow]

all the best dclawers i know use the mkVII lol

im just starting to learn the ways

[valid bluff]

I'm not actually sure why they like 7 over 4

[spark arrow]

i think you start horde management with a light instead of a heavy

[fervent quiver]

Seems like you must have pc4 for it

[valid bluff]

yeah 4 starts with a light

[minor iron]

everytime i use an axe or chainsword i just miss having parry lol

[valid bluff]

I guess that lesser cleave on that first swing is bad

[fervent quiver]

I also don't know the heavy animation for 6, but everybody says it's worse for mobbing compared to 3

[spark arrow]

PS6 you dont really need to heavy for hordes. you can just charge-light-light. charge repeat.

the first 2 lights are horizontal and chop through everything

[fervent quiver]

Wow, just checked out the heavy animation

It's absolutely terrible

Ps6 is lights, ps3 is heavies, gotcha

[spark arrow]

yea but thats the gotcha right? because you cleave so hard with an energized psword that the lights are preferable. they both kill all the little shits anyway

and the 6 is better at bigger targets outright

and it has better block efficiency

the only major drawback is the sprint cancel when you energize

but you can slide while doing that to compensate. its just a little more work for a slightly better weapon

[limber rune]

howdy, what do you all think are the best blessings and perks to run on Plasma?

[delicate moat]

aaaaaa i need 1 more plasteel for upgrade

[spark arrow]

no clue lol. maybe crit (forgot the name) and shattering impact? or crit and blaze away

but 50% crit feels too good to pass up

[fervent quiver]

Get hot

[gaunt hinge]

im getting hot

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1CaYr5jRD9-De1/d1337NybTHF2?invite=cr-MSx2OTEsNjY5MDkzMzMs

[fervent quiver]

My plasma I bought from melky has both

Nice

Crit blaze away

[limber rune]

Gets Hot! seems amazing, only Plasma I have atm has that and Volatile

[sharp ember]

Gets Hot is basically it, I hear Volatile doesn't hardly works with uncharged shots

Blaze Away 3 is kinda nice for extra damage on bosses and thick elite hordes

[limber rune]

is uncharged the way to go? I usually tend to snipe for the most part, so I haven't really tried

[sharp ember]

yeah uncharged is the default way you should shoot the weapon

charging isn't more efficient in terms of damage or ammo

[umbral scaffold]

Charging is pretty much just if you want it dead now rather than 2-3 shots tbh

[sharp ember]

it's more for cramming 3 shots into 1 shot which is situational

[umbral scaffold]

Have only really used it to get crushers off squaddies

[tardy vine]

cant onetap maniac rager with mk3 hellbore. 50 hp short

im sad

[wanton dawn]

I tested my first melee vet build and it was hilarious

[limber rune]

huh, interesting. I'll have to try uncharged next time, cheers @sharp ember @umbral scaffold

[wanton dawn]

704 melee kill to 44 ranged

I need to rework my revolver though

[quick burrow]

saveable or bricked

[rigid pilot]

thats alot of stamina

[tardy vine]

[astral blade]

why is this so funny?

[tardy vine]

2 steps back

im happy now

coz of stopping power probably

[mental parcel]

the best weapon to have

[tardy vine]

looks like garbo

[mental parcel]

you are garbo

[tardy vine]

yes but still

[hollow turtle]

Gue'vesa ||"For the Greater Good"||

[mental parcel]

@tardy vine like this helbore?

[tardy vine]

smol

[mental parcel]

the pew pew mod is great

[mental parcel]

how did you got third person what mod is that?

[acoustic wyvern]

Does onslaught on shotgun depends on number of times fired or pellets hit?

[autumn perch]

Neither

[acoustic wyvern]

so how does onslaught works then?

[autumn perch]

It

It do

[acoustic wyvern]

very useful info thanks

[autumn perch]

[midnight mortar]

What do you mean by onslaught? Which shotguns even have access to that blessing?

[acoustic wyvern]

talent tree

on the lower rightor the tree

[midnight mortar]

This?

[acoustic wyvern]

yea

[midnight mortar]

I'm pretty sure it's on a "per shotgun shell fired" basis rather than per pellet. But this would be easy enough to test in the meat grinder to confirm.

[solar sky]

I'm curious, what do y'all run talent wise for the revolver? I have a good build, just wanting to know how other people are building it.

[shadow dagger]

is brunt cooking today

bone dry on plasteel but i cant roll it rn so i guess itll sit in my inv for a while

[solar sky]

Brunt is sometimes a bro. Omissiah be with you

If the second blessing is eventually bad, consider keeping deathspitter. It's still ok even at 2 if it means you can have a good roll like that.

[acoustic wyvern]

hmm if per shell that would suck

[autumn perch]

Just get more plasteel ez

[acoustic wyvern]

unfortunately i have no idea how to test it in meat grinder

but was just asking cause i wanted to try infiltration build with shotguns

[white minnow]

there's the debuff indicator mod to see how many brittleness stacks something has

[solar sky]

Go into the meat grinder on whatever difficulty you play and shoot a crusher or mauler. Check how much damage you do. Shoot them again. If it's much higher then its applying multiple stacks. IF it's not, then it's most likely per shell

you can do this with any grey verison of the shotgun

YOu will notice the damage increase from a fully stacked onslaught

[crude sparrow]

is the boltgun good to use?

[hollow turtle]

Lol I snuck passed a DH with infil, but my allies thought it was safe because I did it and they blindly followed me, triggering it. 😆

[umbral scaffold]

are they ever going to fix the survivalist aura not working for the resupply allies penance

[acoustic wyvern]

oh thanks for the tip

[kind scarab]

Did you at least ping it?

[hollow turtle]

Oh yeah, it was floating and everything.

[kind scarab]

Okay yeah, that's a skill issue on their part then

[hollow turtle]

Chaos spawn literally shows up just as they trigger it too.

[umbral scaffold]

I've never seen a dh that you can't walk past anyway, most people just don't pay enough attention

[midnight mortar]

Expect either a hotfix in 2 weeks, or for it to be patched in the likely 1 major patch they'll put out before their winter vacation.

[umbral scaffold]

alright

[kind scarab]

They only spawn in areas that have split paths, so you can walk away from it

[hollow turtle]

We didn't wipe. We lost two guys, tried to fight the spawn middle of specialist wave and I had to infil my way to the two guys who were waiting for respawn.

[kind scarab]

But even then, you can often get around then if you crouch near them.

It seems that their agro is based on both sight and movement speed

[hollow turtle]

The other dude died, and so did the first guy I managed to free.

Sacrificial lambs to the slaughter they were.

[umbral scaffold]

what's the best way to do the serial killer penance?

my highest headshot streak so far is 10

[midnight mortar]

Use the XII, highlight all enemies, and improve your headshotting skills.

It'll be achieved as a natural result of you playing Veteran well using Exeuctioner's Stance.

In Damnation the enemy density of basic dreg and scab shooters is incredibly high. More than enough for you to get 20 consecutive headshots.

[umbral scaffold]

I see

I don't have a XII so I need to get one I guess

[midnight mortar]

Really any of the Kantrael MG lasguns will do.

[wanton dawn]

Am having a blast with this build

[midnight mortar]

I just recommended the XII because it's the designated headshot lasrifle. Slow firing, kills in one shot on basic enemies to the head.

[wanton dawn]

I am abusing dumb stuff we currently have that will probably eventually get fixed

[umbral scaffold]

if they nerf the revolver it's just back to plasma for me I guess

[wanton dawn]

Also sunder allows for some dumb crap

[midnight mortar]

What am I supposed to be noting here?

[wanton dawn]

Your ps does not get interrupted at all

[midnight mortar]

Oh

Huh.

I can't tell if that's an intentional part of sunder or not.

[wanton dawn]

Without sunder

[midnight mortar]

So it's increasing the weapon's cleave by an insane amount then?

This must be a bug akin to how grenade tinkerer has the stun immunity tag applied to it.

[wanton dawn]

Dunno if it is a bug

It is a t4 blessing after all

Also considered bad

[midnight mortar]

But doesn't sunder just increase rending?

[fickle wraith]

I mean it says increased cleave

[wanton dawn]

Yeah it says cleave. you are thinking of supercharge

[white minnow]

it's doing some other stuff besides just increasing cleave

the description leaves out quite a few details

[midnight mortar]

Ah whoops, you're right.

Carry on.

[wanton dawn]

I tried sunder cuz I noticed that PS could not cleave enough on some elite to get rampage up

Then I tried killing 20 maulers with it

Then 10 crushers

Then I went in game

Not bouncing on bulwark is a really nice bonus

[half wigeon]

seems okay

[wanton dawn]

So yeah, I think sunder might be sleeper good

[delicate moat]

i dont think i even have sunder lul

[half wigeon]

what is the dump stat on the sword and is it okay ?

[white minnow]

it has high stats and is fairly evenly distributed, so you can't go wrong with it at least

I'd personally dump Cleave Targets because it doesn't scale very much on the special attacks

10.9 cleave at 60% cleave targets and 11.7 cleave at 80% cleave targets

[trim pivot]

For swords it's usually mobility.
The rest all affect damage and horde clear.

[old quail]

mobility helps make up for psword's shitty dodge stats a lil bit

so i would dump cleave targets or a lil bit of cleave damage

any mobility above >50 is fine though

[devout atlas]

everyon manifest power cycler 4 for me

[devout atlas]

yeah cleave targets isn't very necessary with slaughterer or pcycler

[old quail]

well

its really not necessary with brutal momentum

[half wigeon]

okay thanks

[gusty sonnet]

fire team moment

[devout atlas]

tru dat

BM is fantastic for that damage boost too

fuck you melks

[old quail]

f

[devout atlas]

this is the best thing he's selling

yes everything else is somehow worse

not a single tier 4

[minor iron]

so this is technically what i want on a power sword?

[devout atlas]

actually pretty good yeah

[grizzled pebble]

Still prefer rampage/slaughterer over bm with mk6 myself.

[devout atlas]

if you get good perks/blessings you're in

also yeah i'm an mk6 addict

[minor iron]

yeah... hadron bricked it

[devout atlas]

its light 1-3 are so good

[minor iron]

well... maybe not. no power cycler and the perks are garbage but idk

i guess i could make do by finding power cycler to replace brutal and just sticking flak damage over stamina

we should be able to upgrade lower tier perks to higher tier ones without using a modification slot man wtf

[polar charm]

No.

That wont make them money.

We need a "increase +1% per category for 1 dollar" microtransaction.

And then 20 dollars to unlock 3rd editing slot on weapon.

And 40 dollars to unlock 4th.

And make the weapons go to 100% max in each category but you can only go over 80% if you pay.

[minor iron]

just flooded my britches thanks for that jumpscare

[forest scaffold]

on this particular sword

I'd uh

I'd replace slaughterer with power cycler

and weak spot damage with flak or maniac

Melee build vet? Maniac

Ranged build vet? Flak

[frank ether]

brutal momentum is good

[wanton dawn]

I don't even use my gun that much, idc

Mostly here for the rending on crit and the occasional sniper/bomber/trapper

If I don't go fire team I can't take all the dumb stuff

[grave sentinel]

I hate this gacha crafting bullshit, 29 power swords upgraded and still no IV Power Cycler. Melk refuses to stock it aswell and I've been playing since pre-order early access.

[iron marten]

[gritty dock]

How many pieces can you change to your Perk and Blessing in a weapon?

[midnight mortar]

I played Darktide for 325 hours before acquiring a tier 4 power cycler.

[polar charm]

3 hours for me. But I never got brutal momentum for axes.

[polar charm]

This rng is bonkers and I hate it.

[grave sentinel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571683070416125993/1165741088821219358/crumple.gif

[polar charm]

No brutal momentum.

FML.

[iron marten]

The times when power cycler 4 used to give 7 charged heavy swings was wild

[whole moon]

Just checking I'm not making a mistake, this IS worth getting yeah?

[grave sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/jfc-rage-ffs-gif-15724811

[polar charm]

Good for melee zone shooting but that stability means you can forego even tap-sniping.

Just toss a grenade, you have better chances to kill an enemy sniper with it.

[whole moon]

I'll check my other chars, if nothing I'll get it just for FF IV

cheers

[hazy reef]

I'm still trying to get a good Laspistol, but they keep refusing to give me dum dums

[wooden oriole]

any one know how good Headhunter with Infernus on the las guns are?

[polar charm]

I vote 5 dollars per tier of blessing per weapon micro.

So 20 dollars to get power cycler 4.

Ofc per weapon type so you gotta shell another 20 for other ones too.

And if you happen to get a bought blessing later with rng it should just say "You won!" in big green letters in middle of screen.

And no rebates.

[delicate moat]

should be subscription based

you can loan a blessing for 30 days for 4.99

[polar charm]

I like how you think bruh.

I have a mobile game startup you might be interested in.

[hazy reef]

I swear Hadron is trying to make me switch sides, I bet Nurgle would give me dum dums 4, slaughterer 4 and Headtaker 4

[trim pivot]

Weapons with cool Nurgle blessing

[hazy reef]

Tox flame rounds Instead of Infernus?

Plus maybe the captains will let us borrow their bayonetted plasma pistol

[trim pivot]

Precisely.

Also want dat bayoneted kantrael shotty

[hazy reef]

Nah, Maulers 2 handed chainaxe

[wanton dawn]

2

Welp, I have 5 auric setup that I like to play now, sweat !

Well, 4 really, I am still not a big fan of hb3

But agri brauto, plasma, lawbringer and now melee vet

[strange grove]

fav melee weapon to pair with plasma?

[wanton dawn]

I almost exclusively play ps6 on my melee

[strange grove]

I'll give that a try, other than the +energized hits blessing, what the other best one?

[wanton dawn]

Well, sunder is a "new" for me. Besides that, you have the mandatory power cycler

[strange grove]

ty

[wanton dawn]

Then you have either bm, slaughterer, rampage and I guess now sunder

[delicate moat]

fk we just did a conga line into two trappers

someone went down below; another one went to save, got trapped, i killed trapper 1 but did not expect trapper 2, last person died to nurgle

[iron marten]

this exact scenario is why my friend says, "saving randoms? that was your first mistake"

[delicate moat]

thank you brunt armory

very good rolls

[shadow dagger]

huge

[valid apex]

Right but you need the bleed also. And you would never fire that into 1 enemy unless it was a sniper - which the burn will kill cross map.

Scattershot guarantees the crit to apply bleed

Well, not 100% but…scatter4 is 12% per enemy I believe?

[elder vessel]

no melee damage malice or higher

[gaunt steppe]

What's the bolter game now? Shattering Surgical? Or Still Shattering Pinning?

[strange grove]

Wdym by bricked? You referring to having to constantly recock the weapon?

[strange grove]

I like shattering pinning for hip firing

[minor iron]

speaking of bolters, my heart was pounding while rolling this

shattering was the orange tier and i took a gamble because the stats are so good

[gaunt steppe]

More than 2 suboptimal blessings or perks; as you can only replace 2.

[safe flower]

Dumb question, but does Uncanny Strike from the shovel and Onslaught from the skill tree stack?

[strange grove]

Oh lol. I stopped using my hb3 due to how annoying it is to recock the thing constantly

[safe flower]

Cause technically it's rending and brittleness

[minor iron]

do i go for orange or just rip off the bless?

[safe flower]

Well, you could get a good second blessing. PC4 is better, but not mandatory.

You're still somewhat save while charing cause it has the block cancel

[minor iron]

i guess it was worth

[safe flower]

Not bad.

[minor iron]

had to get closure

hate not getting tier 4 blessings but oh well

[fickle wraith]

just do what i did

[safe flower]

It's a start after all

[fickle wraith]

get power cycler 4

[safe flower]

you can get both perks refined, and it'll be a competent sword

[fickle wraith]

took me a solid 4 mins

[minor iron]

ive seen some people saying that they havent gotten power cycler in over 300 hours, so i guess its good to get at least one of them out of the way now if nothing else

[safe flower]

I got PC in like.. 2 tries

[fickle wraith]

@safe flower

1 try

[minor iron]

yeah this was my 2nd try ever upgrading a power sword

[safe flower]

My PS is dormant at the moment cause I'm simping for shovels

They are arguably the better Powerswords now

[minor iron]

trying them out since i see people using them so often but im not quite certain why, what does it bring over a chainsword ors omethign?

[safe flower]

What, powersword or shovel?

Powersword for higher cleave, Shovel for infinite horde control heavy spam

[brisk umbra]

the PS6 is technically better, but fuck me if i hate the slowdown on it

[safe flower]

Slowdown is fine as long as you can block cancel

[brisk umbra]

I mean, the PS oneshots half a horde with Brutal Momentum

[wanton dawn]

Never tried BM but I fallen i love with sunder

[daring badger]

Really like the 6 now, with the block push attack

and lights

[autumn perch]

Lamos

Send memes

[wanton dawn]

I mean, look at this crap #veteran-class message

That's 20 maulers btw

[lament pelican]

full on bleed better or roll with the 541?

[autumn perch]

Damn how

[tepid pagoda]

Bleed isn't worth speccing for

[daring badger]

So is BM now better that slaughterer on PS?

[fickle wraith]

u got hit. garbo.

[wanton dawn]

Asking the right question #veteran-class message

[wanton dawn]

Yeah I need practice

[daring badger]

What are you using on that ps

[wanton dawn]

sunder

[daring badger]

Stick with slaughterer?

ah might try sunder

[wanton dawn]

am abusing a ton of stuff

[daring badger]

very similar to my build tbh

only couple talents different

[minor iron]

just got 'lights out' for the first time and holy shit that modifier is awful

[daring badger]

lol got sunder 4 on first try, nice

[woeful ibex]

https://youtu.be/f-YwYeQdJb4?si=TJqMZ0GaJrZu8KR0

Cadian Voice Lines

[devout atlas]

i'd rather go deaf than listen to this

[fathom grail]

Why is he always angry

[clever galleon]

His favorite rock went boom

[grave kayak]

I think I'm addicted to new plasma gun. I literally can't play auric missions with Lasguns and Autoguns anymore.

This cleave 100 is just too fun

[clever galleon]

Plasma is just really strong right now

[fathom grail]

In his lungs

[clever galleon]

If that kid wants some cadia, he can just go out to the sand pit and find what is left of it.

[fathom grail]

Build a sand castle

[valid apex]

cava to pinning and GG

[clever galleon]

https://youtu.be/SJDXYHE22-o?t=169

[wanton dawn]

I am looking for specific stuff: stun immunity on tinkerer, rending on revolver apply on melee, and sunder means you weapon is unstoppable by even bulwark shield

Also no joke: my average runtime went down by at least 10min with this build

[strange grove]

How is revolver on vet? Does the reload speed become an issue?

[wanton dawn]

Revolver is very good, even if I am playing it to abuse handcannon

Otherwise I would probably use something with stripped down

[strange grove]

Is hand cannon bugged?

[wanton dawn]

It applies to melee

I am using most of the highly illegal stuff in this build

[valid apex]

It’s kind of funny how many insanely bugged things make it through each patch.

[delicate estuary]

what is not parriable with the mk4 ?

[valid apex]

Hand cannon is absurd….and it applying to melee is hilarious.

[valid apex]

Fire

[delicate estuary]

you can legit parry monster attacks or what

[valid apex]

Yep

[delicate estuary]

based

[vestal minnow]

am i wrong for thinking that the revolver is kinda cracked?

[meager prism]

Depends on the class using it but no it's great

[fickle wraith]

which one should i yoink?

headhunter 2?

[delicate estuary]

isnt that like

completely borked

[meager prism]

I'd extract ghost from it and call it a day
Pulling off a tier two isn't much use and I wouldn't try to build that gun up further

[fickle wraith]

im not gonna build it

i dropped it

just figured which one is better to extract

[meager prism]

sounds good to me
Tier two blessings can show up in the shop so I don't bother with them on found or rolled weapons

Not if something higher is there that is

[fickle wraith]

i get it just didnt know if ghost is of any value or not

[meager prism]

Not for muh meta
But it's pretty useful imo

It's good QoL

[limber rune]

so people who like the Helbore, do you all use mods for a different sight or no?

[fickle wraith]

i do

[sharp ember]

I only use a true crosshair dot, which I use for every weapon

[fickle wraith]

bro is mischevious

mischievious?

idk

mischievous

[harsh merlin]

Is this bricked?

[fickle wraith]

whats wrong wioth it

replace stamina and gloryhunter no?

or am i missing something?

[harsh merlin]

Wait so you actually want gets hot on this gun?

[fickle wraith]

why wont you?

[ivory aurora]

Looks good to me

[harsh merlin]

Oh great then 😄

[sharp ember]

Gets Hot 4 is only a 8.5% difference, and yeah it's better now, plasma crit is better than it used to

[harsh merlin]

What's the blessing and perk I should swap to?

[ivory aurora]

I would change stamina to flak

[harsh merlin]

then it's great 😄

It will probably take me forever to get gets hot 4 lol

[sharp ember]

flak or unyielding if you don't care for the flak breakpoints

Blaze Away 3 is nice

[harsh merlin]

ty

Now I just need to get a gun with blaze away 3

[sharp ember]

honestly Gloryhunter is ok as it is but yeah, BA3 if you want more damage

[devout atlas]

811 lesser kills in a 1200 damnation mission running lawbringer

fucking hell

[safe flower]

Infernus to headhunter, or DA to Headhunter.. Hmm

[devout atlas]

Infernus to Headhunter wtf

[sharp ember]

Infernus to HH easy

[devout atlas]

Why is that even a conundrum

[safe flower]

Fair, didn't think it was that obvious

[devout atlas]

😭

[safe flower]

Because not everyone has an encyclopedia of 2k hours worth of knowledge?

[devout atlas]

erm :3c

[sharp ember]

Nothing like casually 1 headshotting an elite with an MG1a

and the shots keep rolling out

[shell ginkgo]

[devout atlas]

ahh FUCK i love lawbringer vet

[safe flower]

So I'm guessing reload to flak and Infernus to HH

[devout atlas]

yeah actually not bad

you're gonna decimate those reapers

💀

[sharp ember]

what blessings do you run?

[devout atlas]

I'd probably go Maniac over Flak but dats just me

[safe flower]

Time to find a T4 HH then

Just noticed I only have a T3

[sharp ember]

I've been having a lot of success with the agri shotgun, swatting specials even with normal shells

and popping shooters as long as I get an aimed headshot

I do Manstopper + Scattershot

[devout atlas]

I'm still farming for Flechette but atm I run

• Headshot Damage (actually helps a lot in extending kill ranges I've noticed, flak isn't needed when you already onetap every flak special/elite other than ragers/maulers)
• Maniac (Pox Flamers are the only thing I've noticed an issue one tapping to the head, would also help against Trappers although those get deleted anyway)
• Scattershot (to get even higher chance to proc Flechette, plus crit goes brrr)
• Flechette (Will kill off anything that gets up)

Insane horde-clear, arguably better than the Kickback in that regard.

For melee I run BM4/PC3 Mk6 Psword

I actually run Smokes on this as Psword can handle what Kraks can and both weapons make Shredders rather useless. Found it actually alright. And Voice of Command

[safe flower]

Oh my god that 1a feels nice

[sharp ember]

interesting

[safe flower]

I have been converted

[devout atlas]

I've found it pretty reliable. Once I get flechette I'll do Maelstrums but I've been doing normal Auric Damnation and handling it exceptionally well.

[sharp ember]

I've tried a flechette Kantrael but I'm just not gelling with the delay before kill, even when combo'd with fire shell

[devout atlas]

The build

[sharp ember]

and most things die to a kantrael meatshot with normal shells anyway

[sharp ember]

MG1a RISE

[devout atlas]

Yeah that's why I find it a bit better on Lawb. Lawb tends to have tighter spread on normal ADS shots letting you kill specials to headshots very efficiently

Precision Strikes is a must for extending your special kill range to regular distances. You can reliably one tap snipers and bombers at damn far distances

[strange grove]

id liek to try this, ty

[devout atlas]

but yeah very durable build I've been enjoying heavily

[sharp ember]

do you aim for your lawbringer special shells? or case by case depending on the horde width

[devout atlas]

"Aim" them to proc Deadshot

Basically hold down M2 and M1 after putting in a shell to quickscope

The stamina consumption is so minor that you can maintain Deadshot without any stamina curios

[sharp ember]

yeah, just concerned about tightening the spread on the horizontal shell

via aiming

[devout atlas]

Idek if it tightens

Does it?

[sharp ember]

it does

normal shells get a tightened spread too

videogame aiming logic

[shell ginkgo]

Shotgun choke changed by ads

[devout atlas]

Huh. Well I've been doing it frequently and still shredding hordes. I imagine after the first shot Scattershot + Opening Salvo carries over and you can hipfire

Wait

I think the lawbringers special ADS should be tested

because my boymath shows me it's pretty similar spread

Nope

it does scrunch down but by a pretty small margin

[sharp ember]

hmm, I thought it was more dramatic from my memory

but whatever works

I love manstopper though, shoot straight through a horde to take a flamer's head

[devout atlas]

Left: How close I have to be to headshot the rightermost guy with ADS special.
Right: Same but with Hipfire

Did I accidentally upload the same image

ffs

This is what I meant to send on right

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-19424004

[devout atlas]

Uhh

[sharp ember]

can barely karking see the difference

[devout atlas]

Like that much difference

[sharp ember]

oh lol

[devout atlas]

in practice

[sharp ember]

very good to know

[strange grove]

carapace of flak damage for mk6 PS?

or*

[sharp ember]

Flak, damn those maulers and ragers and other guys

mk6 powered push combo tears up crushers enough

[strange grove]

good?

[sharp ember]

for how often you take them in melee

[tawny pawn]

what are the vets best horde clear melee weapons?

[sharp ember]

I don't have an experienced opinion on Sunder, but the rest is solid, though I would prefer something other than Infested

[sharp ember]

Devil Claw, Chainsword, Power Sword

[ruby fulcrum]

Devilclaw, chain sword, power sword, hard to go.wrong tbh

[tawny pawn]

thank you

[shell ginkgo]

Shovel is fun.

[tawny pawn]

i'm an oggie giving vet a try

[shell ginkgo]

Spam heavies at the speed of light.

[sharp ember]

oh yeah shovel smacks them around but takes extra time killing them

[tawny pawn]

hrm, shovel appeals to my oggie senses

ill have to check out the move set

[sharp ember]

a good defensive melee because it has many high mobility dodges and staggers

[shell ginkgo]

Mhm

[tawny pawn]

looks like i got a lot of toys to play with then

[devout atlas]

BM Combat Axe 2
Devil Claw 4
Both PSwords
Chainsword

I mean there are better Devil Claws (FOR HORDE-CLEAR) but... Just use 4

[shell ginkgo]

Yes

[sharp ember]

Power Cycler is a must-have for pswords, a genuine straight upgrade blessing with no additional activation requirements

[sharp ember]

exists at t3 and 4

[shell ginkgo]

Power Cycler IV brings the PS similar to pre nerf status

[devout atlas]

I mean funnily enough they're pretty good without it if you get good blessings, but get at least a t3 so you can do good single-target combos that often require two swings

[shell ginkgo]

The Mk vi slowing you down on power up sucks

[fickle wraith]

this just dropped, what are we thinking? should i grab any blessing?

[shell ginkgo]

At least you can dip dive and dodge while turning on the mk iii

[sharp ember]

I hate activation spam weapons if it's the most effective method to kill, feels clunky

[fickle wraith]

probably take the fire frenzy 3?

[shell ginkgo]

Steal Fire frenzy

[devout atlas]

Shovel can horde-clear too but it's more of a very well rounded weapon. Has dueling swords insta-stun, can smack around groups of ragers, decent enough at horde-clear and crowd-control and can do okay anti-armor. I do occasionally run it.

[sharp ember]

mk3 having mobility activations is rather neat to distinguish the lack of a power stab

[shell ginkgo]

I like the mkiii for being simple and braindead

Charge, the heavies are perfect horizontal swings

Rinse repeat.

[fickle wraith]

gonna apply it to my agribae

it has a fire frenzy 2

so its aw in win

[devout atlas]

I mean. Mk6 is arguably more braindead no?

Charge, 3 lights, repeat

[sharp ember]

yeah mk6 lights do just about the same

[shell ginkgo]

Blessings aren't cross weapon :)

[fickle wraith]

they are when they're both braced autoguns

🙂

[zealous wyvern]

ah yes smile emojis

[fickle wraith]

idk he hit me with one

might as well hit him back

[zealous wyvern]

you never know if its rude or not

[fickle wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-gigachad-jinup-jinup-chad-gif-23896242

[shell ginkgo]

Wait, blessings are cross weapons?

[sharp ember]

the emoji text converter

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[devout atlas]

when would you even use Mk6 heavies? against a group of ragers?

[zealous wyvern]

within the type

[tawny pawn]

what kind of blessings/perks do vets look for in the shovel?

[shell ginkgo]

[sharp ember]

in the same weapon family only

[devout atlas]

Oh yeah. Mk6 charged is two headshot heavies

against Dreg Ragers

[sharp ember]

Decimator, Uncanny Strike is my goto

[devout atlas]

and flak ones too

[zealous wyvern]

brautos, autos, headhunter, shotguns, helbores, bolter, plasma, revolver, infantrylas, pistol, shredder

[sharp ember]

Skullcrusher is ok as well

[zealous wyvern]

same for melee

[devout atlas]

What Guardsman said.

[fickle wraith]

theyre cross family

bruh i been playing for literally 8 days and i know it

https://tenor.com/view/staring-press-close-staredown-train-gif-22975756

[zealous wyvern]

caxe, taxe, psword, csword, dlaws, knife, shovel

and they are cross character too

chainaxe too

[shell ginkgo]

wtf, people have always said it wasn't.

[devout atlas]

but yeah I like shovel when running weapons that need a more "self-defense" weapon. DC4 works for this too but I'd rather slap down a group of ragers than worry about parrying them

[zealous wyvern]

they meant types

[sharp ember]

youve been LIED TO

[zealous wyvern]

not singular weapons

probably at least

[sharp ember]

or yeah what korpsman said

[zealous wyvern]

yeah what guardsman said

[devout atlas]

yeah what i said

[tawny pawn]

I appreciate it vet comrades, you make this oggie feel welcomed

[zealous wyvern]

you did not say nuthin

bigman is always welcome

[elder vessel]

its beautiful

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/all-coming-together-gif-21949585

[devout atlas]

Is this alright for a boltgun boss killer or is there anything I should change

[sick marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-stick-army-of-darkness-bruce-campbell-gun-this-gif-17346017

[sharp ember]

Maybe have a check in the shooting range if any elites barely survive a headshot that Superiority Complex might cover

otherwise nope

no complaints

[devout atlas]

Only Pox Flamers

survive with 153 to a non crit headshot

[sharp ember]

ah those are specials then, you're good to go

[devout atlas]

Oh yeah good point

[wanton dawn]

I think I need a revolver with unarmored

[elder vessel]

revolver best horde clear

[wanton dawn]

Its for sniper

body shot

sniper handling is one of the only job of my revolver in mah build

at max distance it does 405 in body shot

[acoustic wyvern]

I like this build. I will use this build

[devout atlas]

atp wouldnt a plasma gun be better

[acoustic wyvern]

using VOC with left tree headshot + power?

why didnt i think of that