#gameplay-help

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storm tree
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as I was once told

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Positioning, and where to choose engagements

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don't dilly-dally around railings

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not to say it still can't happen

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game is a choasburger

broken prism
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hello everyone. is someone willing to help me with this pendants :Reach Clearance 25: Adept of the 53rd: Probitor 2nd Class:

the max clearance I was able to reach was 23 with randoms

umbral pond
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fuck me I just finished a Train mission so close to losing I swear I would've seen the station the 53rd were in if the game was more accurate

noble echo
lost smelt
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My auric events have been wipe in first room or full clear with no problem. No in between

soft violet
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Grenade veterans are a mixed blessing during this event, not gonna lie. Love love love the regen for my hive scum chem nades but I've been yeeted off ledges way too many times from spam happy vets... I know I know, "positioning, bro." It's difficult when there are grenades being hurled left right and center. I feel like a ping pong ball. Screw the begining of Gloriana, for real.

strange thunder
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vet shouldn't affect you with any greandes

soft violet
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Ok, I might be an idiot. This whole time I thought the veteran shredder grenades threw allies as well as mobs?

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Bulwark nades?

placid eagle
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(only in the event)

shadow skiff
# soft violet Bulwark nades?

50% chance of them dropping a 'nade that will usually delete toughness (i go from gold to like 50% toughness on my vet.) when they die.

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Also knockback.

soft violet
shadow skiff
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Need to treat them like bursters and immediately dodge backwards after kill.

soft violet
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Thanks for the head's up!

broken prism
hushed mauve
noble echo
# broken prism what is a LFG ?

as Boudicea said it stands for Looking For Group , if you post in your respective Vox channel e.g. NASA for North America / South America
The general way of doing it is joining an empty strike team, then posting a message in the LFG channel saying what you want to do. In this case Havoc 23+

sick arch
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Can nurgles or plague ogry spawn in chasm station ( the first level)

clear plume
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Yes

halcyon grove
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Heyoo, the mastery system where I'm distributing points to get perks, those perks are not automatically added to my weapons, just unlocked for me to add them later right?

hushed mauve
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yes. you can add 2 perks at once to a weapon via hadrons terminal ^^

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when a weapon reaches max lvl (20) you will have every perk on lvl 4 (max lvl for perks)

fresh ocean
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hold a wall you can hide behind and push them through it

fresh ocean
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what mods would i want to get to see if someones kit is good before i invite them to the havoc team?

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or really just like an info on the playr joining

steep silo
fresh ocean
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thank you

keen flume
hushed mauve
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no use playing as hordeclear scum if not elite kill is in team or vice versa

keen flume
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Same, if I see a taunt Ogryn on pre mission then I wap to bull charge

fresh ocean
keen flume
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It is less about the people builds and more their competence

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But certain builds can benefit others faster

fresh ocean
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its just seeing that they have a coherent build too

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at least a little

hushed mauve
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i am curious what would you say to my psyker with FGS, bolt pistol, assail and 3 toughness curios with sprint and block efficiency?

keen flume
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You can have the strongest build in the game and still play like shit if you don't know how to use or coordinate and loop around

fresh ocean
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i cant see it all correct

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but i can pick what might be best

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with my recent havoc games yeah idk

hushed mauve
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the problem is, you always have to trust

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no matter how good the build/gear looks they can play liek shit

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maybe they have a bad day

fresh ocean
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aits a gray areas

hushed mauve
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maybe their cat wants to have a go at heretics too ^^

fresh ocean
hushed mauve
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and here i thougth it was the reason whyi get declined xD

fresh ocean
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i mean FGS is good

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assail is good

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ive done very well with just FGS

hushed mauve
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boltpistol is for the odd sniper ^^

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just in case

fresh ocean
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Yeah and like this is the thing people come into havoc without leveled gear

hushed mauve
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i mean ... till lvl 10 that mroe than okay imho

fresh ocean
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havoc 20 lol

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i mean max level stuff is pretty important for some weapons

hushed mauve
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depends on how the stats fell

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my dumb ass had a 400 FGS with superhigh scores except warp resistance on 5% and i maxed it -.-'

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should've never coudl have been the perfect minmax FGS

pulsar acorn
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are all class intended to being able to tank 1v1 bosses?

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on Havoc

fresh ocean
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tank? i dont think so?

pulsar acorn
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i noticed after play tons of Havoc missions with the Vet and dying as hell, after switch to psyker, multiple boss spawns ara way way easier when i can tank one of the bosses thanks of the perill instead of the stamina

fresh ocean
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it also depends on the boss

pulsar acorn
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was wondering if all the characters should be able to tank a boss 1v1

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like the captain with the shield and sword

fresh ocean
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you should be able to hold a boss idealy

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but straight tanking is not really reasonable

clear plume
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no class is meant to tank, avoiding the damage from goldtoughness/dodging/ staggering is always better

smoky ember
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oouughhhh im blooocklkiiiinnggg

amber salmon
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Do goggobites taste like goobooberries

normal flame
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👍

eager flame
# pulsar acorn was wondering if all the characters should be able to tank a boss 1v1

Psyker has some of the best block cost reduction options in the game. You can put enough points into stamina and block cost to hold block with any character against most monsters/captains but it is typically ideal to learn how to position and dodge the attacks that are easier to avoid so your stamina isn't doing all the work and limiting other possibilities in your build.

shadow skiff
eager flame
# shadow skiff You mean, skill Kinetic Deflection.

No. You also have access to force swords with blessing to block bullets and further decrease block cost beyond normal weapon perk/curio limits. Furthermore, Pysker has faster native stamina regen onset than many classes. You can also perceive barrier/bubble as a means of further "blocking" damage.

shadow skiff
lament parrot
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Anyone wanting to work on dream team?

obtuse glen
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are toughness curios super rare or do I just have bad luck today? i bought like 30 curios from melk and got all +wounds/stam/HP

hushed mauve
shadow skiff
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It's luck based though.

shadow skiff
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Should only gamble at lvl 30.

obtuse glen
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oh i assumed since it was a curio the level doesnt matter...does it have some sort of % cap for stats?

shadow skiff
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Yeah.

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Usually 410 min for max roll.

obtuse glen
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oh dang thanks for letting me know, i was gonna go do some more after the next run lol

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oh but doesnt curio level not matter, only the "rank" since we only use it for the stats?

shadow skiff
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More so for stam. +3 that are below 410 are fakes.

shadow skiff
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Wounds are always +1, only for Martyrdom zealot though.

obtuse glen
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right

umbral pond
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Guys hear me out
Sniper class
Long range guns, small melees and even unarmed option, ability to jump higher for vantage spots
Felinid

stoic locust
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No

strange thunder
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great for a horde

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which tends to be spawning every now and then

umbral pond
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Fair
I guess that's what teammates and melee is for

strange thunder
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so just negate the whole niche of the class for the majority of a game?

umbral pond
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Ok yeah I can see the problem

umbral pond
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Actually, speaking of Helbore, @strange thunder
I actively fight hordes with the Helbore when I use a Krieg Build
The gun kills them fine, the bayonet kills them fine
Yeah I guess it'd be tougher with an even more snipy gun, but there's a fair few ways to fix this
getting stealth relatively often to sneak out and get them to beat up your team, maybe grenades to kill them, or just make them more of a marksman than a sniper so they can still snipe specials but still fire kinda fast

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plus I think it'd be really funny hearing some of the more serious personalities having to deal with a catgirl

strange thunder
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ok but what is your sniper class going to do when helbore vet does all of the things you described

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also from what I read, 40k felinids are not really catgirls

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they're considered abhuman like ogryns and ratlings

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and prob p rare to begin with, doesn't really vibe with the whole notion of a ship full of them

keen flume
hushed mauve
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Imho felinids are probably closer to like furries than catgirls, maybe nit even that. Like human face and stuff but tail catears and all covered in dense fur

zealous dome
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Cats from cats

shadow skiff
sick arch
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Do any of you use controller for your game? I was curious as to how you fare with 45 degree slide and dodge. Sometimes the control makes me crouch which makes me die from the very gunfire i was trying to avoid. I can use KBM as im on pc but have alwahs used control on other games acceptably

shadow skiff
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Some prefer hold to crouch since they only use it to slide.

hushed mauve
# soft violet (just kidding... kinda)

veteran has a sharpshooter tree. and felinids are bound to their planet by lore. also if sniper class extra ratlings would be kinda the predetermined pick but FS does not want an additional viewpoint for small characters

hushed mauve
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i swear to the goddess... sometimes i wish for leave penalty

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liek leave for 10 games and for the next 10 games your title is forced to leaver or something

strange thunder
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I don't leave games, I just crash instead

hushed mauve
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i mean taht is always the problem ... btu you have people that go down, instaleave

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and its not even auric maelstrom

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the problem persists over all difficulties as well -.-' karking ragequitter

strange thunder
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ye I wouldn't mind penalty if darktide was a stable game with stable servers

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they already penalize in havoc and there you get it even if it's totally FS' fault

hushed mauve
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yeah ... thats the big problem

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throne ... my typing today ...

soft violet
lone adder
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Why the fuck are we posting Loona in gameplay tips

hushed mauve
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cuz she cute?

lone adder
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Fair

soft violet
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unfortunately rage-quitting is actually encouraged for those looking for "no-death" contracts/achievements and just those looking for a faster requeue. There should be a penalty.

steep silo
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-5000 diamantine each time you leave

hushed mauve
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tbh there is more than enough that would not care about -ressources

soft violet
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Yeah, if play regularly, god roll maxxed gear isn't hard to farm and then it just builds and builds...

hushed mauve
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tbh 80 80 80 80 60 is good enough

quaint jacinth
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does my havoc rank lower if i don't play?

strange thunder
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yes

quaint jacinth
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well that then takes all desire to play havoc

strange thunder
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you can just complete any havoc game

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doesn't need to be a higher ranked one

quaint jacinth
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i don't care about the weekly rewards, i wanted to try to see how high i can get my rank

strange thunder
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well if you're competent and doesn't get stuck in the 20-30 rank hell

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you'll get 40 eventually

quaint jacinth
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sometimes i play other games and i go to a different country for a few months
i got to 22 last time i played and now im down to 12

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if it decreases over time just because i can't play it every week then im just not gonna play

strange thunder
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yeah they drop ppl down to the closest 10-20-30 after a havoc reset

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which is after every big update

quaint jacinth
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what do you mean?

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so it's not a constant drop?

strange thunder
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it is a drop by one rank every week if you don't play

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but they reset havoc for everyone when a new big update drops, which is every 3 months or so

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I'm 40 rn so if they reset, my mission rank would go down to 30

fresh ocean
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what maps does respawn manipulation work?
like can you always just go backwards and have closer spawns or do certain triggers negate it?

clear plume
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Works for all maps

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The locations vary per rescue totem

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There are mods to give you visual locations for these (works only in offline, so you need to research).

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Certain objectives are tied to respawns

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1 that comes to mind is mercentile. If the scan data isn't picked up at the 1st rescue they will always spawn there but when it is, they get pushed forward

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Even certain drops can be abused if you hug the lip of the drop below it (it thinks your above the drop)

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If you want to learn some without the mod just @ me a pic of the location and I can probably tell you where the threshold is

fresh ocean
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chasm station at the start i was wondering if it had one

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everything went bad and i was trying to get a respawn outside of the tunnel but it didnt work probably cause there is none

clear plume
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For the 1st respawn of Chasm Station you need to be behind the barricade before the broken building bridge

fresh ocean
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okay so then i have no idea why the havoc 40 players questioned why i wanted to backup when 2 of us died?

clear plume
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9/10 people I play with in pubs don't understand the respawn mechanics, which isn't their fault. Fatshark doesn't teach and the info is hard to find

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Best way to say it is to explain what you know

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/where to find more info

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I usually say "back/back up for closer respawn"

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And if they don't back up I add "they spawned at the next totem because you didn't back up"

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Then I show them where they need to go for the threshold

fresh ocean
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I didn't know for sure but also things were really bad so i wanted to reset anyways

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and they all kinda just raged quit instead of hearing it out

clear plume
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Then they didn't want to learn, move on. Some people just don't care to learn stuff like that, which is fair

fresh ocean
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I mean this is in havoc

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Id hope if they are playing this mode they'd be willing to learn

eager flame
fresh ocean
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I think i can see that

noble echo
strange thunder
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it depends on the respawn point sometimes

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but just follow someone that does know and their markings

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it's usually just better to be safe than sorry

clear plume
crisp owl
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can you still move them to a closer respawn if they already respawned in the further respawn point?

strange thunder
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no

reef haven
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Why can't I immediately push after sprinting with melee weapons like the duelling sword and the bone saw? There's a 1 or 2 second delay after sprinting. Is this an issue in the game? If so is there a mod for it to fix it?

strange thunder
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if you are right next to a respawn point where another player already is waiting, someone dead will respawn next to them

vocal nacelle
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make a post in forum maybe its a bug

reef haven
vocal nacelle
balmy moat
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thats the only way i can not push, if i dont let stamina regen a little for a push

hushed mauve
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that happened to me before xD being otu of stamina and see the poxburster jump ... scariest moment of the week

reef haven
reef haven
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I even tested it in the meat grinder

balmy moat
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both with and without stamina

shadow skiff
reef haven
balmy moat
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can you show a recording of it happening

reef haven
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Somebody answered through the forums, It's an animation cancel issue

amber salmon
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What's considered high ping these days

clear plume
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there is only 1 (ONE) totem that is bugged and will bring someone forwards

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but this is very iffy and I cant replicate it every time

vast jewel
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I would also add do not pickup the last person hogtied if there is still a count down for someone who just died, it will force teleport them to the next beacon if one is available to be active instead of the one you just freed your teammates

hybrid idol
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idk if this has anything to do with gameplay but is the scoreboard mod not working for u guys? Cause is crashing the game for me

hybrid idol
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damn thats sad

hybrid idol
gusty whale
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could it be something else

hybrid idol
gusty whale
hybrid idol
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thanks for helping!!!

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👍

gusty whale
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but i also run ovenproof community patch

balmy moat
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as kat mentioned above

hushed mauve
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if i blacklist a person, does it mean the game will avoid tputting me in a match with them?

hushed mauve
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good...

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sadly the karker is not in the previous games list ...

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run of the mill naem too.
met them 3 times today. they go down, blame the game (game won't let me shove, stupid game does not accept dodge, etc) then leave game

shadow skiff
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That never got fixed. Not even slapping them with BtL or Shout works.

hushed mauve
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true that. but stuff like: shitty sweeds nto even block works against weak minions leaves game
after they stood inside a literal horde of enemy hodling down block button and stam ran out

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i mean sorry, but at that point they are just a lousy player trying to play auric xD

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or rather get carried

shadow skiff
hushed mauve
strange thunder
hushed mauve
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i mean ... mourningstar is empty all the time so wouldn't even notice xD

strange thunder
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ye it's just funny

lost smelt
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So sometimes boomers just jump at you from a distance and they land where they deal damage to you but still are to far away for you to push them?

shadow skiff
gleaming lantern
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i honestly charge them, push and dodge back. with a decent mobility weapon it seems safe

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no more backing up while pushing

restive jewel
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do you guys like main a class?

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do I need to main a class

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to get really good

strange thunder
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I play some more than others, but not excessively more

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so no you don't

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then again it depends on what you mean by really good

balmy moat
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while a main isnt necessary, i do suggest like, temporarily maining different classes, maybe a couple days at a time, instead of switching every other game or so, just to help the learning process along smoother

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if you only play 1 game as a zealot a day for example, its gonna take FOREVER for you to learn you can throw knives while channeling chorus kek

gleaming lantern
wicked pine
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is "man-stopper" on the combat shotgun +25% stagger all the time or just on crit?

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its not clear

eager flame
clear plume
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Find the blessing guide

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And search for man stopper

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To my knowledge it's just cleave increase

strange thunder
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the ranged attack stagger strength is separate

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up to 25% more

old niche
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Does anyone know where I can see a guide to weapon stats? I mean stuff like Impact, Strength, Rending, Brittleness, etc.

strange thunder
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the blessings guide above also describes what those mean

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if there's a blessing that interacts with them

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like adding brittleness or rending

old niche
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Thank you kindly!

fresh ocean
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How do i see a players CURRENT havoc level?

vocal nacelle
fresh ocean
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it at least seems like it and im pretty sure testing my own account it shows my highest rank not my current

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i think people who WERE 40 end up joining when they probably still aren't at 40 cause some of them do really bad

fresh ocean
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I just want to have someone dishing out the same stats as me 😭

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its just really not fair to anyone to hide players current havoc level and just give out their highest as if it is what they are at

vocal nacelle
fresh ocean
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if im honest the balance of havoc is genuinely pretty horrible and rng reliant

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so even when true survivor players are in here they still get screwed by that

vocal nacelle
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KEKW_ogryn except rotten armor, that one is BS

fresh ocean
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idk ritual and gas is pretty bad

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but yeah i never want RA

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if the modifier equates to just do more damage then like what are we thinking

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do any really good players like actually ever touch randoms?

fresh ocean
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Well i clearly need a class that will hyper carry more than i am already doing but im not sure what

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like hivescum can hit some crazy numbers

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just really need something to stop my team from dying so much and to make up for their sometimes 2x-4x less damage than me

lost smelt
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Viable ways to do boss damage as psyker other than brainburst?

keen flume
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But is better to ask for builds in psyker channel

lost smelt
balmy moat
keen flume
# balmy moat

Had moments where I just did over 30% health damage or more with a push attack agaisnt a plogryn

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those are the moments that make me pog out of my mind

balmy moat
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highest single hit ive gotten so far is about 14k damage in a single stab, that i've been paying attention on at least

gusty whale
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shamk

restive jewel
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can you realistically play and win with hive scum desperado builds? most of the havoc 40 i saw are shiv rampage meta builds

thick acorn
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how many hours is this...

restive jewel
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there is a mod that displays 4 or 5 numbers over a character? what are all those

balmy moat
gusty whale
gleaming lantern
hushed mauve
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this mod is so fun to me as i have each class on 30 and my truelvl is nowhere near what a single character shows xd

crisp owl
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Downside is it’s boring, you’re just holding m1 and pulling down while dodging

raw moon
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Does anyone have any tips for completing the Malleus Monstronum penance?

gleaming lantern
balmy moat
raw moon
balmy moat
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nice

restive jewel
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how to what penances for different titles?

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is there a list

strange thunder
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doesn't the titles page say what penances are required for them?

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like you click them

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there's a mod that directly shows the penance associated and one's progress

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which also allows you to view how much more you've done towards the penance after completing it

keen flume
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But works fine enough

restive jewel
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it's hard to search for that name

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like where tf is adept of 53

balmy moat
# restive jewel which mod

"how did i get that" which also requires "archivum messelina" then you can check in cosmetics to see how you got them, and what you need to do to get the ones you need

balmy moat
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it also as you see tracks past original completion on most penances

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fun way to keep watching number go brrrrr

pulsar acorn
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is there any way to avoid people to see my steam nickname with mods?¿

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like turning on some kind of privacy settings?

strange thunder
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im guessing no

balmy moat
steep silo
balmy moat
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ooh nice

zealous dome
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Ah yes

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Plague Ogryn (Sprayer)

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Classic monstrosity in DT

steep silo
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indeed

severe meadow
keen sonnet
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Arm cannon ogryn

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There's art of it somewhere

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I don't have it offhand

zealous dome
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I knew I could find it somewhere

strange thunder
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beeg mutant

pastel forge
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togryn

keen flume
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was it always possible to spawm it?

hushed mauve
keen flume
hushed mauve
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Looks cool though

onyx gale
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Hello. On my end today servers are TERRIBLE. Is it common to someone else?

lime idol
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desync been ABYSMAL since 1.10.7

onyx gale
lime idol
hollow dock
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how do i get higher power curios? can i upgrade them higher?

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also what is a ordo docket

little coyote
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your money

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and curios cannot be upgraded beyond their "rarity", 280 rank will always be 280

hollow dock
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is the max power for curios 500?

pastel forge
inland lichen
# hollow dock how do i get higher power curios? can i upgrade them higher?

RNG. The exception are wound curios.
Rating is kind of tied to your levels, so curio-hunting below max level is unlikely to give you a maxroll.
Best to gamble for curios when you're at max level with melk currency and hope you get lucky, because otherwise, the only remaining options is to check the shop's stock every hour, or hope a good one drops as a mission reward.

pulsar acorn
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why are ritual gets triggered when we are faar? is not the first player that tells me that ritual were triggered from faar

strange thunder
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it goes by direct distance, so if it's on another level it can be close enough to trigger while you still have a long way to run

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and you have a lot more time than you think as long as keep a decent distance

pulsar acorn
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yep i know sometimes bar does the same trick that some youtuber makes with their adds and the ad bar, but the rituals are a little bit buggy, yesterday i can't see the bars on the whole match and the other day i get one of the ritualist on the up floor and the rest on the same room we were in

noble field
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What aura and skill are best on zealot? Im thinking beacon and chorus?

strange thunder
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chorus is high support value but cuts your DPS by a lot

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FotF is often the most useful and it has two charges as well

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shroudfield is good for boss oneshots and some clutches, but can be a bit of a waste at times

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I usually run beacon or benediction, depends what I feel like

noble field
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Word. Im mostly weighing the 15% constant DR from benediction, vs the 60% for 4s every 8s from beacons tree

strange thunder
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that talent is misleading and not very good

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it triggers after they take dmg, not before

noble field
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Oh, ic

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Ty

strange thunder
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np

fresh ocean
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so as a melee maxer whats the havoc 40 strat of doing something in melee without having to worry about an overhead targetted on a teammate being lead into you?

clear plume
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being away from your team

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I'm always in front past everyone

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if they are getting close to me I'm doing something wrong

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but thats my playstyle

fresh ocean
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so there is like 3 hivescums

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it honestly just feels unfair

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because the only place i can go at times is in front with everyone else

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or sit there and do nothing

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i mean i could go behind the mauler/crusher but now im surrounded

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feel like the aoe of the overhead should have iframes completely if you aren't being targetted

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well during a dodge which it does to an extent

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i dont know maybe the strat for 2 upfront melee builds is one just sits back when maulers and crushers exist but kinda feels like bad design

balmy moat
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do not do what ainz does, tbh

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ainz is ainz

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generally, you can be ahead, but that wont stop someone behind making you eat an overhead, unless you break coherency. just be aware of what your team is fighting best you can, and act accordingly

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ainz can rush 40m ahead grab spawns and lead it back to the team faster than they understand what's even going on

fresh ocean
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im hivescum its kinda the method

balmy moat
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depends if your team is ready for those spawns or not

fresh ocean
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yeah i mean i wait for a good moment

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taking an overhead cause i didnt dodge valid

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taking an overhead that wasn't aimed at me and dodging on time is not

smoky ember
smoky ember
#

u dont have to be super far

#

just be towards the front as much as u can

#

and keep teammates either behind u or significantly to ur sides

#

they can handle a crusher or whatever that slips past u

severe goblet
#

rampage scum

#

is best played like an angry bee

#

fluttering around killing what you can but, you still have a hive to take care of

#

so you go back for those moments of support

compact sorrel
#

hi guys i want to do slide while carrying capsule but i can do it only on ogryn, the other classes i cant do it for some reason i hope someone can help ty

strange thunder
#

you can slide with it on any class?

#

ogryn just carries it the fastest

#

scum and psyker has very good stamina regen and short delay so you can sprint slide a lot while carrying to go decently fast

compact sorrel
strange thunder
#

that shouldn't happen

compact sorrel
#

i can slide while carrying with just ogryn

strange thunder
#

sounds like something on your end

zealous dome
simple flare
eager flame
pulsar pilot
fresh ocean
#

Im not sure what you mean by older version? Is there a way to see peoples current rank?

pulsar pilot
fresh ocean
#

I wasn't playing then and im pretty sure i started playing atter the hivescum update

crisp owl
#

doesnt the rank only disappear if you skip a week of havoc?

fresh ocean
#

I can't see current havoc ranks unless its someone hosting where when i view players hosting they'll be on assignment 33 but show havoc 40

#

Like next to their name

#

So im not sure if its even possible to see current havoc rank apart from that

#

So if its something many people can see maybe a mod is blocking me? No one pointed out though where i should be seeing a current havoc rank though so im not sure

crisp owl
#

it shows the highest theyve done this/last week no?

#

i remember taking a break and my havoc rank not being there when i returned

fresh ocean
#

I'm not sure anymore tbh for what others see this is just what i see

#

Id like to see others current ranks not mine though

crisp owl
#

from what i understand it shows the highest havoc they've successfully done this/last week and not their own "lobby" rank, i forgot what its called

#

which is what i think you are referring to

fresh ocean
#

Mmm maybe i have no confirmation on this stuff

#

Like ive said i dont know where the location shows for their current rank

#

Its really just a matter of can anyone else here see what someones current havoc rank is?

steep silo
#

Don't think you can set it to show their current assignment

fresh ocean
#

For some reason true level has never shown me a lower level ever

flint lotus
#

Is there a frame for brutes and bombs or whatever? I finished it but I'm not seeing it come up

strange thunder
#

no you get an insignia

flint lotus
#

man thiS SUCKS I HATE THIS GAME man CMON man I blasTED ALL THE BRUTES maannnnnnnnnnn

#

not even a FRAME man not even a FRAME

hushed mauve
#

the insignia is cool though :3

humble plinth
#

Question for dripseekers
Does this literally mean 50 hp, or is it a typo and it's meant to say 50%

clear plume
#

50%

humble plinth
#

ok i see thanks
terrible place to have a typo like that

clear plume
#

Yes

eager flame
hushed mauve
#

question: what is the best map to complete malleus monstronum?

strange thunder
#

dark communion has guaranteed monstrosity spawn so

#

and ig consignment yard as well

hushed mauve
#

true totes forgot

#

ty uncialove

eager flame
noble field
#

What weapons are best on zealot?

#

Mostly wondering about guns

clear plume
#

there is no best for everything

#

Darktide has alot of variables

noble field
#

Fair enough

#

Mostly picking off stuff that is too far away

clear plume
#

sniper gun

#

There is a few

#

what kind of enemies?

#

elites or specials?

#

or tiny shooters

noble field
#

Elites and specials mostly, like gunners, shotgunners, bombers, flamers, etc

clear plume
#

Las pistol, Combat shotgun, revolver, vigilant autoguns I'd recommend

#

if you get good enough with throwing knives this will replace this role

noble field
#

Ok ty!

clear plume
#

Bolt weapons too

#

people enjoy the bolt pistol alot

noble field
#

Actually just tried it for a sec in the meat grinder, feels good but super slow reload

sick arch
#

Is the content addition something that has to be downloaded or is it handed entirely on the server side ?

strange thunder
#

downloaded

hushed mauve
steel oxide
#

been to the modding comunity and got ignored about this. anyone got a clue whats wrong here:
failed to read "bundle_database.data"
Error: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, message: "The system cannot find the file specified." }
Error patching the Darktide bundle database. See logs.
Press any key to continue . . .

vocal nacelle
steel oxide
twin brook
#

Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: [string "./mod_loader"]:240: attempt to index field 'hook' (a nil value)

does someone know why my game is crashing when i try to mod the game, i have only 3 mods and they are up to date, even the mod loader is up to date

spring grove
#

hey just started the game with a friend and we cant invite each other

#

same platform

balmy moat
spring grove
#

me and my friends are on the same platform

balmy moat
#

menu, social tab, "find player" , grab code

spring grove
#

lol were on playstation there is no find friend code in social lol

#

i can see my friend online

#

so a friend code isnt going to help us oinvite each other lol

#

were already friends lols

vocal nacelle
spring grove
#

figured it out just had to restart are games XD

languid sail
#

gonna pull the best prank on myself and never play scum again thumbsup_ogryn

rocky juniper
#

Does anyone have any tips for reducing lag in darktide?? Its genuinely so bad I can barely play with it

cold moon
#

oh wait, my bad

#

Is this for PC or console?

#

Okay, I noticed your discord role is PC-related so the steam guide above can help you.

rocky juniper
#

You’re good! Yea its pc, currently reading through it rn
Tysm!

keen flume
rocky juniper
#

Kk, gimme a sec

keen flume
#

AMD GPUs in this game have massive hiccups KEKW_ogryn

cold moon
#

Darktide does not like when ReBar is enabled in the BIOS

#

😔

rocky juniper
keen flume
#

Theres a Reddit page that helps to increase frames on amd GPUs though

#

Idk where it is, but could swear it is pinned here or other channels

rocky juniper
#

tysm
would I be better off getting a different GPU if I could?

#

I'm having problems like this with other games too and its pissing me off so bad

keen flume
#

It is a latop you using?

rocky juniper
#

yea 🥲

keen flume
#

Not too familiar with laptops in specific, really the best choice is get a new stronger one or have to start saving for a desktop

#

Laptop GPUs are a mixed bag for me

rocky juniper
#

Yea ive heard that, just in denial 😭 I'm thinking of getting the Steam Machine

sick arch
#

Once you get havoc 40 clearance does it stay that way forever? And just the assigment can go down?

balmy moat
#

until the season resets, it will display you as 40 as your highest clear

#

you get no other lasting benefits

#

if you mean an h40 assignment rank, it will be locked to 40 until season reset, which bumps you down to 30

eager flame
# sick arch Once you get havoc 40 clearance does it stay that way forever? And just the assi...

Season reset will likely be this week which will make Havoc inaccessible after Sunday refresh until the update on March 17. You only need to hit Havoc 40 once for the Penance(s) but every reset you will go down to the nearest 10 levels below you highest Havoc clear (40 --> 30, 30 --> 20, etc). If you hit 40 during a season you will not derank if you lose until the season reset drops you down to 30 again unless you choose to derank yourself.

sick arch
#

Ok thank you for this explanation

lime idol
rocky juniper
noble field
#

Which dueling sword mark is the best for killing high lvl armored enemies?

#

They seem nearly identical

clear plume
#

mk4 has the poke heavy no slash heavy to mess up the single target combo

#

which is heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy

noble field
#

Ok ty

autumn crescent
#

Why is my diagonal sensitivity so slow and how do I speed it up

#

I'm playing on controller btw

normal flame
#

how much damage do bursters do? sometimes it seems to negate the explosion if im at full toughness as well

clear plume
#

Uprising/malice/heresy/damn (auric is same as damn)

normal flame
#

what is full spillover?

normal flame
zealous dome
normal flame
#

10x damage means 1000 damage? essentially you need full toughness to not take health damage

zealous dome
#

You need the equivalent to 1000 toughness to fully tank it

#

This is where Toughness Damage Reduction comes

#

And golden toughness as well

restive jewel
#

do I need to change to beta branch for darktide new update

#

how are people playing it

vocal nacelle
vast saffron
# normal flame what is full spillover?

If the attack breaks your toughness then the full amount of health damage is applied to you regardless of how much toughness you had before the attack.
Sniper shots work the same way. The only way to negate it is having gold toughness, which prevents overspill entirely as long as you have at least 1 point of it.

thorny mango
#

does a weapons MK go up as you upgrade it?

eternal mortar
craggy minnow
#

Iirc the tick damage does not but the applications can, which applies 2 stacks (and does a little extra damage)

gusty whale
# clear plume

does that mean outside of the main boom you take more damage but less corruption

clear plume
#

I have no idea...

#

I think so?

#

I never noticed a difference

keen hornet
#

I can't write in the chat

strange thunder
#

what chat

#

ingame?

#

try interacting with something

smoky ember
#

ends with overall less damage though, if ur at the edge of the blast

#

actually i may be wrong

#

yah idk if u take less damage overall at the edges

#

but i know u take less corruption

fading wave
#

What mod manager should I download

#

and which mods are the highest rated

strange thunder
#

idk if there is any but vertex

#

I just do it manually with folders tho

eager flame
lime idol
smoky ember
lime idol
smoky ember
#

but

#

shmee

noble field
#

Anyone have tips for the shocking stuff penance?

strange thunder
#

flamer

#

don't bother with melee

#

get a fellow zealot to help with more stun grenades if needed

noble field
#

Any suggestions for map or difficulty?

strange thunder
#

some like mortis trials for penance completion

#

higher difficulty means more enemies in general tho

noble field
#

Aye

strange thunder
#

so that's usually more important

noble field
#

I gotta level up my flamer, its not really hitting rn

#

What blessings and perks should i use on it?

#

Like the refinement at hadron

strange thunder
#

blaze away and overpressure usually

#

but you can slot everlasting flame over overpressure for this ig

#

if you're running it with blazing piety keynode

#

usually unyielding flak for perks

eager flame
# noble field Any suggestions for map or difficulty?

If you do the twins map on Heresy at the point where you first encounter both twins (shortly before the elevator down to the final arena) you will get a horde from behind when twins enter. You can funnel them into the narrow hallways on either side (the one on the right as you enter gives you a bit more room and sightline), stun nade and flamer them to death pretty easily before the twins are on top of you. Might need 2 stun nades to get it done so don't kill enemies who are not stunned as they swarm in. Can help to have one other person with you to keep the sword twin busy.

noble field
#

Ill be leveling my flamer fully first and then trying that

eager flame
noble field
eager flame
noble field
#

Ill probably do unarmored and infested yeah

#

Since that horde is usually all poxwalkers

#

Ty

jade herald
#

Guys if anyone here using mods with game i need your help with something.

hollow dock
#

''Those who complete the last tier of the event will receive a cosmetic insignia.'' what does this mean?

#

is it the difficulty or

clear plume
#

The event is 10 missions iirc

#

each 2 played you get a reward

hollow dock
#

oh! ty

clear plume
#

Event missions are on the board marked with the i symbol

#

this

hollow dock
#

can i fail the order or do i jsut do them mindlessly

clear plume
#

you can fail

#

its just fomo

#

you get crafting materials and a unique title iirc

#

to get a tick in progression you need to win the event mission

hollow dock
#

how do i see if ive done one of them?

#

the progression*

clear plume
#

hold tab and press E to cyclke in the menu

faint perch
jade herald
#

also i said If so if not do not answer

faint perch
#

You seemed unfamiliar with how interactions on discord work. Rather than ignoring you, I took the time to explain how you could get what you wanted. If that bothered you somehow, then I apologize

sick arch
#

Since they just ended the havoc season will we still receive the reward chest earned

normal flame
#

combat shotgun mark 9, any good reason to use the incendiary round? looks like it does barely any damage

gleaming lantern
gleaming lantern
quick spire
#

for the blue bottles penance on warren 6-19, if one person does it does everyone in the party get it or just the one who completed it'?

#

trying to figure out if we're gonna need to run this mission multiple times for my group

clear plume
#

1 person in lobby does it for everyone in the team

quick spire
#

ty as always ainz! ❤️ hope you're having a good night!

clear plume
#

Been good so far

shut nexus
#

anybody have the link to the mod discord for darktide?

clear plume
shut nexus
#

thank you

tall hound
thick acorn
#

we're stuck in the ending of dark communion now for 10 mins

#

all the vats are broken but nothing is happening

icy vale
#

Ive looked online and this seems to be a global issue but I never saw a potential solution. The game takes forever to load, specifically when loading into the hub. I myself load decently quick, but then it get stuck on "waiting for other players". I cant move the game to my SSD as that SSD would then have 0 space left, so I don't know what else to do

balmy moat
#

that seems to usually be an issue with another player loading you in, if its rare when it happens

#

i get it once every idk, 200 games or so

#

then i either wait and get kicked to op select, or i close the game and relaunch, whichever i feel like doing

#

if its happening more often though i'm not quite sure, could be the server itself struggling at that point

icy vale
#

It's every single time I'm loading into the hub. There hasn't been one time where I load in normally. My friends load in mostly fine too. My PC isn't that great but I shouldn't have to wait almost 15 minutes

#

Sometimes I'll get disconnected and have to do it again. Yet loading into missions is fairly quick

balmy moat
#

thonk odd indeed

icy vale
#

I could try to move Darktide to my SSD but that SSD would then have like 2-3 gigs free

#

And another ssd would set me back over $200-$300 which is out of the picture for now

little coyote
#

I'd do it for the performance boost as well, it runs a lot better on one too

#

But only if you can move something off the SSD

#

having an SSD that full isn't good for it

icy vale
#

I genuinely don't know what's taking up the other 100 gigs. It's not system files, programs, or media. And I've already wiped old windows versions

little coyote
#

Do you have steam recording active or something similar

icy vale
#

Never. And all my screenshots are saved to a USB drive

little coyote
#

Is the SSD your Windows drive

icy vale
#

Yeah

little coyote
#

Could be temporary files, update files etc

#

but Windows alone takes a good chunk

icy vale
#

disk cleanup says temp files are only taking up 179 kb

keen delta
#

install treesize to find what files clog up your ssd

icy vale
icy vale
vocal nacelle
#

inb4 20GB discord cache KEKW_ogryn

keen delta
#

windows shouldnt take more than 120-130 gigs

vocal nacelle
#

yea windows is below 100GB

#

atleast win 10

balmy moat
#

about 80-100 for me, forget exact amount

#

win10

icy vale
#

i know nothing about computers lol so i wouldnt know

#

well i already found curseforge is taking up 30 gigs

icy vale
keen delta
#

yeah if you are not carefull 256 clogs up real fast when its the os driver

little coyote
#

I used to have a 60GB C: drive for Windows, it was a huge pain 👴

icy vale
#

i need another ssd anyway which sucks

#

still kinda crazy how optimized vermintide 2 is compared to darktide when theyre made by the same people with a similar file size

balmy moat
#

same company

#

different people

keen delta
#

obese fish please optimize the game

icy vale
#

freed up some space on my ssd. if it works better than ill keep it. if not then ill move it back. hopefully this is the end of my suffering staregryn

#

appreciate the help yall

keen delta
#

yeah let us know if that doesnt help I might help with another way

keen delta
icy vale
#

still moving files

balmy moat
#

let us know when its done, very curious

keen delta
short gazelle
#

does flamer resistance cover bomber fire or are they both separate

balmy moat
#

seperate

icy vale
#

@keen delta @balmy moat fell asleep since it was 5am lol. trying now

#

i load way faster now

#

though my c drive now only has 12 gigs free lol

noble field
#

For sir melks quest to grab 16 scriptures or grimoires, does it count ones my teammates get or only me personally?

strange thunder
#

it's also a terrible one to complete

#

I'd just reroll it

steep silo
#

but muh 700 melk bucks

noble field
#

yeah i want that schmoney

#

but it would be a lot of runs and thats if you get 3 scriptures each

#

only got one last time lmao

#

also have to do 6 missions with no deaths which means low diff basically lol

steep silo
#

but if you only have a few operatives and really want to melk maxx go for it I guess

keen flume
#

Pretty sure the rerolls only cost dockets

steep silo
#

yup

#

first reroll is free and then dockets

strange thunder
#

yeah I'd reroll any missions without deaths objectives as well

noble field
#

but fair

#

i did in fact reroll them and theyre much easier with a similar amount of rewards

noble field
#

What mission(s) have a lot of dregs?

#

Need ranged kills

eager flame
# noble field What mission(s) have a lot of dregs?

Dregs are harder to come by as of the last patch but generally I head to the missions with sand in them and seem to find at least a 60/40 split in favor of Dregs. Alternatively, keep an eye out for the rare chance that a Maelstrom is dregs only.

steep silo
#

Dreg only maelstroms don't appear

noble field
#

Honestly, i should probably reroll that one. Only worth 230 melkbux

eager flame
eager flame
noble field
#

Well i rerolled it from ranged to melee kills so ig ill take that

#

Much easier since im zealot

eager flame
noble field
#

Ahhh

#

Good to know

steep silo
#

Sure you're not getting confused with scab only ranged only one?

eager flame
eager flame
steep silo
#

Didn't play at launch but in the last two years or so I've never seen it pop up and I mostly played maelstroms, even had MMT mod to replay them

steep silo
noble field
#

What are the best melees for zealot? Ik dueling sword, heavy eviscerator, and combat knife are really good

#

Oh and power sword

cold moon
noble field
#

Ok cool! I like that one

#

The special atk is great

delicate estuary
#

Can anyone remind me, does playing with friends on higher difficulty than a newly character can select on its own progress difficulty unlocking?

cold moon
#

With a martyr build, your attack speed is very fast

noble field
#

What blessings should i put on it?

#

The crusher

steep silo
#

Skullcrusher and slaughterer are good

cold moon
sick arch
#

I have killed twins hard mode but now the bells arent showing . Why woild this be

keen hornet
#

GUID: 383b106e-f733-4c78-8588-7b80bd486bf0
Log File:
Info Type:

[Engine Error]: A GPU Hang has likely occurred, WaitForSingleObject failed with error code: 'WAIT_TIMEOUT' and waited for more than 15 seconds.

At D:\a\d\rel_engine_darktide\release\2025_10_14_Patch1.10.x\runtime\d3d12_render_device\d3d12_render_device.cpp:205 in function stingray::D3D12QueuesFrameFence::signal_fences


keen delta
#

enjoy just make sure your c drive doesnt get clogged check in every 2 weeks or so

#

you dont want to have like 1-2 free disc space it'll also slow things down 12 while not ideal still much better than 1-2 XD

vast saffron
sick arch
vast saffron
#

I guess my question was about the penance then!

icy vale
#

@keen delta @balmy moat after a 5 hour play session i can confirm this fixed my problems. however. having 12 gigs free on my main drive is fucking horrible

noble field
#

What mark and blessings should i use on the boltgun?

#

And combat blade

smoky ember
noble field
limber fjord
#

Let's say I was interested in a build that excelled in elite killing, what are some options? I'm picking the game back up on steam so I'm losing my progress, I played some Ogryn, Psyker and Veteran but I never got up to Havoc level or anything

#

I want to just delete specialists, gunners and tanky threats before they can even become a problem for my team

hollow dock
#

will the current penance rewards be changed soon?

#

i really want the bone charm but im nowhere near

#

actually i dont know what the system is called. the leveling up season pass thing that u progress by completing penances

#

wait no hestias blessings!! will the rewards change or am i not in a hurry

gleaming lantern
#

I think all the current penances and rewards are permanent. IIRC they're adding more with this next update - so higher max penance points and accompanying rewards

hollow dock
#

ooo cool

gleaming lantern
#

Indeed. With a reward of some kind every 100 points, I'm almost 1000 points over the current cap, so hopefully that means I get a pile of stuff quick 🙂

tame cypress
keen flume
#

Expeditions now is gonna spawn dregs exclusive

#

Except ogryns and specials

thorny mango
#

Do you need to work down the skill tree??
If you have something unlocked lower in the tree and you remove the above perks, do the lower perks continue to work?

faint perch
#

No

#

You cannot do that

keen delta
icy vale
restive jewel
#

anyone know this hud mod that has warp charges

restive jewel
#

the crosshair hud is crashing my client any alternatives

balmy moat
restive jewel
#

Show me Real weapon stats crash with new upadte

hushed mauve
#

1st expedition: have a vet that shoots poxbursters (on auric) and kills us all

balmy moat
#

sounds accurate

restive jewel
#

do you get more credits on higher difficulty

#

like there are a lot of tech remnants lying around

kindred temple
#

iam spawning into missions that are lost and i just see the failed mission screen. game is crashed and i can hard reload

kindred temple
#

yes

#

its a mess

#

now you can wait 2 days until its playable

#

sucks. the mode is quite cool

restive jewel
#

there are visual glitches in loading screens too

#

my weapon exp is slow to build in expeditions tho

#

back to normal

vocal nacelle
ember wyvern
#

I am on a 9070 XT and the game is struggling why do they keep screwing performance

restive jewel
#

i have same

restive jewel
#

why is havoc rank 10

#

lmao

#

used to be 20

strange thunder
#

they reset ppl down to the lower 10

#

40->30, etc

digital stone
#

the game is extremely cpu bound

rough linden
#

Where can I ask questions about mods?

#

Anyone knows?

ember wyvern
rough linden
ember wyvern
#

That is a option in game I believe

rough linden
#

Mods on, no cutscene; mods off, bam cutscene.

ember wyvern
#

odd, I don't have the cutscene either way

rough linden
ember wyvern
#

I can't show a screenshot but check ingame when you enable your mods: in the interface settings all the way at the bottom one of the options should be to disable the cutscene. Just check that the mods aren't changing that for some reason

native wind
#

Anyone not having event progress track? I’m at 1800 remnants but nothing is showing up.

warm spruce
#

Is the infantry lasgun intended to do more damage the further you are away from an enemy

zealous dome
zealous dome
#

Because Fatshark

rough linden
#

Lol

zealous dome
#

I guess they just wanted them to be mid-long range weapons

rough linden
#

Probably.

languid sail
#

first expedition, get to sanctuary, finish up and the exit just.. doesn't open?

#

i'm confused lol

steep silo
dusky cobalt
#

anyone getting softlock in the shop in the new mode?

mint cave
#

anyone getting a lot of flickering on lights now?

lost smelt
#

So all noobs just queue in on auric for expeditions?

#

Becuase holymoly the teammates I get, like they don't have basic dodgeing down yet

thin zodiac
#

has anyone faced an issue where they cannot load into expeditions?
Im getting stuck at "reading data from disk" though every other game mode I can play no problem

keen delta
near thistle
#

Has anyone else been able to confirm that chem enhanced and channeled devastation are not synergizing?

noble field
#

Do penances for breaking idols count teammates?

balmy moat
#

yes

noble field
#

Nice ty

hasty nebula
#

Real talk whats the point of the barrel purchase

balmy moat
#

movetech

steep silo
#

funny barrel

gleaming lantern
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is there a guide to what the symbols on the auspex actually mean? I know doors are safe houses but idk what the rest mean

thorny mango
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do demonhosts get mad if you walk NEAR them
I find I keep getting absolutely smited by them 💔

north breach
clear plume
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Open the enemy guide and scroll to demon host

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Kuli explains how they agro

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It's damage and proximity

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@thorny mango

thorny mango
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gulp

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oh so sprinting anywhere near it just causes it to go balistic

north breach
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Yes

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Don't even shoot near it

thorny mango
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Suppression effects, yuh

quiet hawk
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GUID: 1533c476-1026-498d-a83e-dcf3d3d0eee8
Log File:
Info Type:

[Engine Error]: Access violation (0xc0000005) in build 9d27d951f0bcbabeb8dbabb48f2578a45b164e17
accessing address 0000028BC414E379 from 00007FFB4CA90A4D

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anyone know what's wrong?

normal flame
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is there a resource on what the symbols on the auspex in expeditions mean?

restive jewel
sick arch
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Does anyone know a fast way to get salvage parts ? After 12 hours i got like 36k tech points but only 4000 salvage

wheat karma
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does not spending salvage earn you anything in the new game mode?

wheat karma
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is that a no?

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xd

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i was hoping it had a savior system to it but ig not

sick arch
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You have ro spend 100k to get salvage lord penance title which is orange

wheat karma
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i seen tha

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but that does not answer if you get extra tech for not spending any xd

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thats what i wanna know

vocal nacelle
wheat karma
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it would make sense

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even making it a 1//1 would work

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but maybe 2/1 would be nice

fresh ocean
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is it even possible to play the new gamemode and win if players are so bad and won't go to the points to extract/collect loot?

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like is there a way to get extraction at the end without needing majority team?

rotund ermine
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regarding the grids

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Any changes to the maps when you unlock the furthest one?

wheat karma
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that or

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honestly pray on there downfall and solo it anyways

fresh ocean
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why did they even lock exit to one person at end

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or from one person

balmy moat
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idk why they made it need 2 people

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they REALLY need to add a check for "ignore limit if team is dead"

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sanctuaries make some sense at least, because they're teleporting you away

rotund ermine
fresh ocean
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oh and objectives too

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like come on let me do it solo

rotund ermine
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because fatshark is probably scared some players just take small resources and exit the map
KEKW_ogryn

rotund ermine
fresh ocean
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i think the last thing we needed in this game was to add MORE teamplay requirements

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because MOST people play auric when it just results in them dying a bunch then leaving

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i'd say add punishments to leaving but either way we go with that is a lose lose

wheat karma
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it makes sense on paper

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but like

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they really need to make solo player lobbies a thing soon

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i dont like harping on the "just add solo" but like

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alot of the S tier players need that shi xd

balmy moat
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make auspex waypoints set in-world

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would help a ton

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instead of the compass

wheat karma
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true

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a little beacon light would be nice

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most gamers dont look up afterall

fresh ocean
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also seems like the servers are dying so that lovely

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I think if anything is to be changed its just solo and bug fixes in my priority

wheat karma
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once they get the bugs out, and carapace armor gets fixed. it'll be goated

little coyote
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What's up with carapace at the moment?

tame anchor
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expedition difficulty a bit inconsistent on auric so far

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have some with no bosses, and some with quite a few

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Havnt noticed much of a difficulty difference between alpha and beta

balmy moat
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its just modifiers

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difficulty also ramps up the more heat you generate

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more sites you hit, more time you spend, more things you kill

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the big difference might be player quality between alpha and beta

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in alpha, people dont know quite what they're doing, in beta you have to have some semblance of what youre doing at minimum

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probably expands from there, but only just unlocked delta so haven't run it with pubs yet

thorny mango
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why did i start my arbites playthrough with 100k money?

little coyote
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Money is shared between characters

keen flume
wheat karma
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at the moment maybe like 5% of things can kill them well enough to be used

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crusher being the big example. after the health bonus a full charge thunder hammer cant backstab them in one hit. which is an issue.

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i think about 70% of my net losses are from 12+ crusher hoards and i just can slash them down fast enough

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they need a weakness

vocal nacelle
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Ogryn + mass stagger thumbsup_ogryn

wheat karma
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or the damage resistance needs toned down from 100% from some weapons to like 70% cap

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there are things that work. but the things that work vs the things that should kill them anyways. is to far a jump

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like sure, i can burn them down and just dodge n pray. but sooner or later everything else will get to ya

little coyote
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ehh, I don't really see them being an issue as they exist at the moment. Thought there was a bug or something

fresh ocean
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or just bring other weapons up

wheat karma
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or that

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buff other weapons

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but nerfing one big issue is also a good gap

strange thunder
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dont shoot armor

fresh ocean
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where did that stat come from?

wheat karma
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the hundreds of games i've played, public reviews, local calls.

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and the like 3k youtube video's on it

strange thunder
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they need to learn to not shoot armor

wheat karma
fresh ocean
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to be fair most people aren't good so

wheat karma
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its not just shooting it

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its most melee weapons to

strange thunder
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what are most melee weapons

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like you have heavy sword, sure

wheat karma
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most, the swords, the chain weapons, almost all the clubs, the shields,

little coyote
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Mr E is also an awful source

wheat karma
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and sure the dagger can work, but its slow. and the other clubs are super slow

strange thunder
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you can't just say all swords

wheat karma
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mr.e is like most of the player base

strange thunder
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chain weapons handle carapace fine

little coyote
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stupid?

strange thunder
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clubs as well

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shields?

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arby shields are super fine

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so is ogryn shield

wheat karma
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chain is one of the worst

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arby sheild takes a long time, same with ogyrn

strange thunder
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no it doesn't

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you just aren't using them correctly if that's the case

wheat karma
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i know i am. i've tried them all

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when there is a hoard, and 10 crushers are in the way

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they dont cut it

strange thunder
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they do

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chain sword is chain sword so it's not super great

wheat karma
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they dont xd

fresh ocean
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i mean have you checked out the most optimal dps for each weapon?

wheat karma
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again, look at it from a normal dude with like 100 hours trying this out. they dont cut it in the slightest

little coyote
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there literally are zero non-viable weapons in the game, some or better than others for sure but not every weapon has to do everything perfectly

strange thunder
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100 hours is nothing

fresh ocean
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yeah 100 hours you have a lot more to learn

strange thunder
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I barely understood basics atp

wheat karma
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there are plenty if you want to have fun xd

wheat karma
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if thats your stance, you cant try and tell me that theres not an issue

fresh ocean
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something taking a while to learn is not an issue

strange thunder
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what issue, that ppl complain about carapace?

wheat karma
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100 is alot of time xd

strange thunder
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idc they complain, they're just bad

fresh ocean
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then its not for you lol

wheat karma
little coyote
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balance doesn't mean that every weapon has to be equally good at everything

strange thunder
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like there are select melee weapons that struggle with carapace, but they usually shine in other areas

fresh ocean
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how is it bad?

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depth is a very good thing for games