gameplay-help

[keen flume]

Claims that he was the first to ever done H40 when it dropped when someone else did it first before him

[glad cedar]

Not like there are official leaderboards

[north breach]

Pretty sure the claim is first havoc 40 and deathless

I've nothing against him, but I also don't get all my information and tips for builds etc from one source

[keen flume]

Just like Mister E, both tanner and E come up with false information, bad takes and awful balance changes especially from classes that have little or no experience at all playing

And is always ogryn

[north breach]

Eh, I always struggle with Ogryn, they feel weak to me but I also don't play them as much, also due to how weak they feel comparatively.

[keen flume]

As ogryn main, there are issues, he is not near close from being the weakest or worst class in the game but lot of the people just dislike because does not play like human sized

Still a great and fun class that can leave an impact in your lobbies if you have a smart and helpful ogryn in which lot of other ogryn players do lack the mindset

Recently had an ogryn just kept rushing ahead and be mad on voice chat

[north breach]

I find him very fun in below Auric, in Auric I'm a liability 😂

[keen flume]

You gotta need a bonehead upgrade

[north breach]

Mines broken, sorry sah

[keen flume]

"Dont have to call me sah, I am ogryn like you"

Give me that 2H ogryn hammer already, obesefish

[north breach]

Agreed!

[opal nebula]

any advice for trying to get true survivor?

any cheese strats?

optimal comps?

i heard 3x zealot 1x vet is a good strat. rotate books and have vet snipe ranged

[tame cosmos]

the cheesiest cheese strat is to stealth past everything on archivum

[strange thunder]

archivum has often been seen as the easiest map, I failed at the finale in havoc 1.0

[lime idol]

4 health & DR stacking zealots using shroud to speedrun through a level (usually sycorax)

Sycorax is the easiest standard map in the game because the events are short and can be done solo

[stoic locust]

You also don't have to stop for anything

First time you stay in one place for more than 2 minutes is end event

[lime idol]

The only “hard” part is pushing through the staircase descent without anyone getting ledged off the map

[humble plinth]

Do daemonhosts leave if a different player dies for unrelated reasons? Think I've seen that happen but not sure

[hushed mauve]

iirc if they can not dmg the person that woke them up for some reason they also leave (liek blockign with a shield and outrunning them

[vocal nacelle]

Yes only need someone to die

Unless it's havoc ritual DH

[frosty charm]

wasn't there a chance that it will stay after killing someone else than the one its focused on, and this way sometimes kill 2 ppl?

I have some recolection of this

[vocal nacelle]

Nope,only old DH need 2 kill current one just need 1

[summer forum]

I have less gripes about them being big but one of the turn offs for me as a more casual experimenty type person is how limited their weapon selection was compared to other classes.

I have had multiple friends since explain to me that "Ogryns just don't have that many weapons in the lore" and idk how much leeway fatshark has to take with the IP but like no chance to bullshit some stuff with creative liberties?

That's my main grievance.

[tame anchor]

is there a consensus on which twin to kill first?

[hushed mauve]

not that i knwo of, some favor rodin for less tox greandes, soem favor rinda because she is super aggro

[vocal nacelle]

orthus or havoc?

orthus , rodin first

havoc is whoever closest

[tame anchor]

Havoc. Whats Orthus?

[vocal nacelle]

the OG twin mission

[tame anchor]

thats my exp - whichever one the team manages to gank

[vocal nacelle]

usually its rinda cuz she just charges at your ogryn

or let ogryn peel away rinda + monster/captain while your team kill rodin

[tame anchor]

do they have damage caps? Ive heard you cant just 1-tap with hammer

[vocal nacelle]

the twin shield have timer

normal captain have damage cap

[tame anchor]

timer?

[vocal nacelle]

normal captain shield will regen if you deal more than 20% health

for twins

[tame anchor]

i guess i never waited long enoug hwith norma lcaptains to see if it timer on

but with twins, they seem hp capped

can only chunk away so much at a time

[hushed mauve]

its similar for normal captains tbh jsut sometiems you hit harder xD which is not so easily doen with the twins xD

[tame anchor]

ive never 1-shot twins the way i have captains

[hushed mauve]

hojnestly i never tried xD

[lime idol]

They have damage gate on health

You can only do up to 20% of their max hp in 1 hit

[thick acorn]

is 420 the highest (pffft) curio?

[clear plume]

430 iirc plus it doesn't matter bar stamina curio

[zealous dome]

430
Also nice joke

[thorn sequoia]

???

[remote needle]

playing ~20 havoc and noticing that a lot of the time when we wipe its while I am focusing a captain/monstrosity while my teammates that were with me left. Should I not be committing to a loop with the boss chasing me?

[vocal nacelle]

depends what class are you playing

[remote needle]

zealot/arb

[balmy moat]

i'd keep pulling back towards them if possible, try to avoid being split up. however, they also should not be abandoning you

definitely dont be committing to a loop while they're all still alive, there's not really a need to

looping is more for creating chokepoints for the chaff to be easier to kill / create distance, not fighting a monstrosity.

the only monster that really needs any kiting is a burgle, to get behind it/ avoid the vomit, and to break LOS on rodin

[remote needle]

oh they dont run backwards they run forwards

so for plague ogryn and chaos spawn i should stand and fight?

[balmy moat]

and captains, yeah

[vocal nacelle]

In havoc whenever a monster spawn you full stop and kill, backtrack a bit because if you keep moving forward it will trigger multiple spawn

[strange thunder]

tbf if you have teammates who leave you when fighting a monster on any difficulty then they're not good

[pseudo oar]

Do environmental things like ice blockages or stimm tanks have actualy healthpools or do they just register a certain number of hits?

[strange thunder]

health pools

[hollow olive]

hi, i tried to do "just a flesh wound", i did finish under 20 min, low health, private match, but didnt get it. any tips ?

[little coyote]

were you low health for the (almost) full duration of the mission or just for the ending

which mission was it

[vocal nacelle]

you play the mission too fast maybe

[hollow olive]

just for ending, train mission

tried the twin boss too

[vocal nacelle]

you low health for 80% of the mission total duration?

[hollow olive]

nope

[little coyote]

Yeah you need to be low health for most of the mission

[hollow olive]

damn, thanks for tips

[eager flame]

It takes about 1 minute to get downed at start on Heresy. Make sure you delay at the end until you reach the 12-15 minute mark to be safe.

[hollow olive]

thanks

[hollow olive]

alright, i'm trying to do "just a flesh wound" penance and here the things: first, i have no friends, yes very sad. Anyway, i'm planing to play havoc to get the penance. Question is, is havoc counted as private match ?

[balmy moat]

i dont think so?

[keen flume]

Do not ever attempt to complete on havoc

You are better to ask here

There are people willing to help with penances

[balmy moat]

havoc mission, less than a wound of health, under 20m, that'd be stressful

[hollow olive]

well, i did, but no answer. making friends ? nah i'm too old for that

[balmy moat]

i can help

[hollow olive]

you will ? thanks

can you host ?

[balmy moat]

i can, yeah. i need to go grab the mail real quick though, but give me like, 15 minutes or less

[hollow olive]

ok

so can i post my code in here ?

[balmy moat]

ye or join on me

[hollow olive]

how can i join ?

[balmy moat]

the code in my name

[jaunty venture]

@balmy moat you up to do 'just a flesh wound' once more? :D

[balmy moat]

i can, ye

[jaunty venture]

can i join ya already?

[tame anchor]

hab dreyko evac is...

[stray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/혼파망-피자-당황-community-chaos-gif-16635574

Live from Hab dreyko evac

[deft harbor]

Looking at the wiki/GL, Havoc levels 1-10 are supposed to be comparable to Malice difficulty- if I can solo regular Malice missions with bots, will I also be able to solo those Havoc levels? Trying to get into Havoc, but the party finder only ever has LFGs for levels 25+ lol

[broken raft]

If you do an auric maelstrom you start at 16

[strange thunder]

you can't start a havoc mission with only yourself tho

[deft harbor]

I've done a few auric maelstroms, but my havoc rank is showing as 1- do I need to complete a havoc mission before the rank updates?

[strange thunder]

you don't start with a rank

you start with a 16 mission

[deft harbor]

So I need at least one other player a la private games? Can't just do a bot squad?

[strange thunder]

yes, no

if you host your own mission from the terminal, it would be a rank 16 one

and then you would have people trying to join you instead

[deft harbor]

Ahh I see

[strange thunder]

the comparable levels is only in terms of base difficulty, havoc has a lot of hidden modifiers (outside of the two possible mission modifiers that all havoc missions have) that changes things up

this explains all visible and hidden modifiers and when they become active https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[deft harbor]

Helpful, thanks!

[granite quarry]

What do Maelstroms do exactly?

[strange thunder]

extra modifiers to a mission, if it's auric it also has a different spawning mechanics that's what havoc uses

[granite quarry]

I assume it gives more rewards too?

[strange thunder]

yes

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Maelstrom_Missions

enhanced blitz means you get two more blitzes available to you

otherwise the rest should be self-explanatory

monstrous specialists also increase the spawning frequency of full monsters and also makes it so they can spawn during mid/endgame events

the no ammo one still has grenade pickups

[tame anchor]

i wish i saved the picture of 4 burgles in a line

[granite quarry]

There’s a whole LFG channel

[strange thunder]

could advertise in a lfg channel through #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[feral ember]

im consistently crashing in match with a light mod list that was just downloaded and installed today, is this normal?

[clear plume]

OG Scoreboard is not being updated anymore iirc. But more modding help can be found in the modding discord

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042847554062262282

[feral ember]

ah rip, thanks

[sick arch]

May anyone recommend a strategy or video that details what is meant by weapon combos and imementing effective block and push strategy. I do not feel like i ever using block and push mostly just dodge. Do zealot with chain sword

[clear plume]

In this guide it has detailed graphs on attack comboes

Certain attacks on weapons have different damage types (ie the push attack on crusher has higher finesse damage then the heavy attack)

For a video on blocking it just comes with practice, I can't think of a video

But whenever you need a bit of room or to stop a light weight enemies (poxwalkers/some specials) push

[split junco]

Why won’t they fix the bots if their fucking game is too dead for me to play with humans

[sick arch]

Thank you for the information

[mint cave]

what blessings do you all like to run on combat knife? i was looking at executor and precog, but maybe uncanny instead of one of them

[severe goblet]

Uncanny is usually the must have for knife

[sick arch]

Siblings are most of you doing heresy and damnation with two wounds as zealot?

[strange thunder]

yes, unless martyrdom

and maybe the odd fatmangus build

[sick arch]

So with martyrdom its 1? Or 3?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00b4f08-9f8c-49af-a7fa-ddeb6e720287/shrednificent-ij-evis-build-havoc-ready

Thats the one i am trying to replicate albeit for heresy and damnation

[mint cave]

thank you

[pastel forge]

martyrdom runs 2 wound curios

also that build is questionable as hell

[mint cave]

what do you lot run on thunder hammer?

cuz as far as i can tell this thing is miserable

[stoic locust]

Thrust + slaughterer and Headtaker

Carapace and Unyielding

[mint cave]

fair enough, which mark?

[stoic locust]

Crucis

Ironhelm's gimmick isn't useful

[mint cave]

orpnhelm is what im stuck with til hgher mastery

bleh

this might be a sacrficice mastery gig

thank you

[pastel forge]

what is its gimmick

[mint cave]

if you had to choose between slaughter and headtaker which would you prefer

[sick arch]

Could you link a more ideal one if you know of any. I seem to live in malice with that one but always like to improve

[pastel forge]

check pinned guide in #veteran-class

[sick arch]

Its zealot though

[pastel forge]

random builds on gameslantern have a really high chance of being dogshit

[pastel forge]

theres zealot stuff too

[sick arch]

Ok thank you

[pastel forge]

if there wasnt i wouldnt be telling you to check it

[stoic locust]

Slaught gives better bonuses but drops off easy against mixed horde cause thammer sucks at it
Headtaker is more consistent but less powerful

[mint cave]

thank you

appreciate the help!

ive been trying to learn it, but so far i havent found anything it does relic or crusher doesnt do better

[pastel forge]

boss one shots

and thats about it

[mint cave]

aw, thats too bad

i was hoping for a more damage heavy version of the crusher

[stoic locust]

Yeah all thammer has going for it is boss 1 taps

Relic can do dumb huge boss damage but also has horde clear that doesn't blow

And crusher is a really fun stagger weapon

[mint cave]

my crusher build got me through auric storm surviror, love the big turkey baster of death

and its fun to lock down whol hordes with it on arbite

[clear plume]

horse

[mint cave]

i have to get a backlit keyboard lol

[clear plume]

I do the same thing all the time

no worries

its funny

[mint cave]

i feel bad for the ponies tho

https://giphy.com/gifs/f454O1oAfk6V7148xe

[clear plume]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-funny-eating-gif-4440560066269991308

[mint cave]

does anybody have a fury build they like, so far i just like martyrdom better

[peak loom]

Yo guys returning player here after 2 years. With this new Weapon system whats the RNG aspect on it then? Everyone gets God Rolled weapons or you still need some RNG like idk to get a High Roll DMG stat etc

[little coyote]

The RNG comes from the distribution of max values for stats

usually people go for 80/80/80/80/60 distribution with 60 being the "dump stat"

The max value stats will always equal to 380 and one stat cannot go over 80

[peak loom]

Gotcha. Is still the Armory gatcha the best way to get them?

[little coyote]

Pretty much

[peak loom]

And they still can roll any number from 70 to 80 right?

[little coyote]

now you just don't need to roll until you get the best possible roll on the active stats, you just need to get the best max stats, any one weapon can be upgraded to the max

yeah

[peak loom]

Great thanks for the info man

[little coyote]

No problem

[tame anchor]

I-II-VEG baby

[tame anchor]

rip

[old niche]

Is there any chance if a curio having +2 Wounds, or is it only ever +1?
And how does the rating on curios work? I’d have to check, but it feels like I can put the same buffs on a 200 that I can a 390.

[strange thunder]

wound is always 1

I don't know the scaling of hp and toughness, but they both reach max around 400 or so (21/17)

stamina reaches 3 only at 410+, at 400 it's a rounding error if it says 3 and only gives 2 instead

but the perks you give them are always the same

[sick arch]

Siblings would i be remiss in using 3x 17 percent toughness curios as zealot martyr. Perks would be +5 health +5 toughness . Would the third perk be well served for toughness regeneration (30 percent) or gunner resists.

[pastel forge]

martyrdom zealot uses 2 wound curios

also toughness regeneration perk is worthless

[strange thunder]

I like 3 wound, so that I can sit at 25% hp and still be at max martyrdom stacks

I think all my zealot curios are +toughness, +revive speed, +stamina regen

[sick arch]

Thank you

[smoky ember]

you need 2 wound curios to get full benefit from martyrdom, otherwise just run IJ for stat buffs

[smoky ember]

also toughness regen is bad, it’s never worth taking as it only applies to regen from coherency, which is a tiny amount of toughness (note that if a talent says it buffs toughness replenishment, that usually means it buffs toughness generated from all sources)

i’d also suggest taking at least 2 gunner res perks on ur curios

[restive ore]

Heya everyone, I have a dumb question. I have seen videos where someone has what appears to be a scoped rifle but I cannot figure out what variant it is or how to get it. Could someone please educate me?

[strange thunder]

there's a red dot sight on infantry lasgun?

shouldn't be any other scopes idt

[paper zenith]

Gun sights mod if not las

[strange thunder]

yeah could be mods

[restive ore]

Okay, must be mods. Thanks folks, I thought I was just over looking something obvious.

[stark dove]

Can I die while completing a penance "No Provision" in Morstis Trials?

[sick arch]

Does party composition matter at all or is it just “be competentent “

For auric

[clear plume]

be competentent for any gamemode

[fresh ocean]

dude have servers always been unstable and kind of high ping?

like its to a point where im someone with gb internet and I might need the lag compensation mod

[paper zenith]

Any advice for shocking stuff penance? The best i've managed is 25 kills in 10 seconds in dams.

currently running relic blade and fotf

[cold moon]

Been like that with darktide for the most part of the game's life

[halcyon grove]

Hey quick question, I'm starting to play the game as a new player, I would like to play a class that is capable of damage but also support towards the team, got any suggestions or tips?

[gleaming lantern]

They can all be spec'd for a support type role

[gleaming lantern]

Like Vet shout ability is great for sustain. Same with book Zealot. Psyker can take bubble shield, and Ogryn can go heavy tank / crowd control.

[gleaming lantern]

All that is to say, pick whichever class sounds the most appealing to you. Psyker is probably hardest to start with, but if you learn on Psyker when you eventually make a vet, zealot, or ogryn, the game will feel easier

[halcyon grove]

I do like the idea of psyker for the mage support, with ranged magic abilities.

What is book zealot?

[gleaming lantern]

Psyker is probably the most unique class in terms of abilities and mechanics

[gleaming lantern]

"Book" is the prayer special ability. You basically whip out a holy book that makes enemies cower and refills your teams toughness. It's like an "ok, timeout, reset" ability that can save a run multiple times

[gleaming lantern]

Vet "shout" is similar in that it refills toughness and knocks enemies back. Book lasts longer and has a longer cooldown to balance it.

[halcyon grove]

Currently started with Vet, will continue for a level or two more, if I don't feel any better about it, I'll give a go to psyker.

Psyker can use power sword right? is it a viable thing you can actually use?

[gleaming lantern]

Vet is a great class though the most traditional / vanilla. Zealot was my first and I still consider it my main, but I've gotten every class including dlc to max level and kitted out.

[gleaming lantern]

They have "force" swords instead of power swords. It's basically the same thing but warp energy. There are both 1H and 2H variants and the 2H (force greatsword) is considered one of the best melee weapons in the game especially with a "scriers gaze" build.

One thing I'll note is that every class feels pretty boring for the first 10-15 levels until you've spent enough talent points to feel different. The real game doesn't really start until level 30 (max level) which honestly doesn't even take that much time. IIRC you get about ~1 level per round if doing quickplay with bonus xp

[faint perch]

I really didn't like vet until recently. Once I realized vet has great tools for every situation everything clicked

[shadow skiff]

Speed=/=connection. I have fast DL speeds but awful connection outside of region.

[shadow skiff]

Get an oggy with taunt to help, bring flamer. Oggy aggros wave 3 of mortis while you stealth deaggro till big pile up. Throw stuns, burn everything.

[fresh ocean]

im not quite sure what decides if you have bad connection outside of region other than internet speed

but it is certainly fast stable and most games don't struggle like this one

i think most games give like 20 ping or lower for me so 40 - 60 is a lot

[stray vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeTUiwXCzI

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-surprised-wee-bey-the-wire-revelation-gif-23831754

Damn, you mean I can't just magdump an enemy while standing still and I might have to use tactics or strategy to overcome different challenges?

[balmy moat]

a second zealot with stun grenades, and you with a flamer

[shadow skiff]

Connection, so basically out of your hands is just what route it takes to the server, which can be quite spicy if it chooses to run loops or through a damaged cable. VPNs to force a path through a service's route may help but still, can get congested.

[keen flume]

Balance suggestion: Make ogryn rock effective agaisnt carapace

Not my suggestion, take it from mister e himself

[buoyant wasp]

Tbh E's whole grindset is these damn thumbnails and video titles.
Realistically, the most you get is a load of statistical analysis with no prognosis.

I've been burnt many times.

I think Carapace itself is fine, however it is a chokepoint on build diversity.
A lot of weapons in the game are DREADFUL and utterly damning if you happen to be carrying them and the system spawns a crusher wave against you.
Either due to their movesets, or simply how much of their damage is attenuated by the armour.

In my experience atleast when I look at my melee weapon pick- my first question is "Am I going to regret this the minute crushers and maulers start rolling in?" And a LOT of weapons get crossed off immediately.

[hushed mauve]

I try to balance this out with melee, range and blitz choices

this allows for more build diversity as usually if the range si strong againbst carapace it is not that good against waves similar theisis goes for many melee weaponbs. as for the moveset i find if you play the weapons a bit you can adjust to it. sure with some it is easier to deal with the crushers but it is possible for any weapon that is good against carapace.
as for the blitzes. most classes do have a blitz that is good/decent against crushers. albeit veteran and hive scum are king here in my opinion. ogryn falls flat btu the can stagger crushers with any melee weapon wthey have. i have yet to try the arbites remote explosion against crushers but i found that the normal arbites maul or shield and maul are good against crushers, especially when combined with breakl the line.

i see carapace as less of a problem tbh. i do agree however that some weapons could benefit greatly from a balance patch to make them less sucky against carapace. don't get me wrong its good that weapons are effective vs different things but usually weapons that are great vs carapace are great against almost any other armor as well.

[buoyant wasp]

AGREE

[fiery nova]

is there any way to get curios above 400 with the arbites? Highes i've gotten so far is 400 with 16% toughnes. On my Vet i continiously get 420+ with 17 toughnes

[vocal nacelle]

RNG

[strange thunder]

ye just melk gamble a lot

it's not class specific or anything

[fiery nova]

with my vet i even get them on the normal trader

[strange thunder]

again, just RNG/luck

[autumn jay]

Does the curios number matter if the stats are the same?

[balmy moat]

only for stamina curios

if it says +3 stamina but is 400, its lying
if its +3 at 410+, its actually a +3

[autumn jay]

Thanks

the numeric Ui mod tells me i have 4 dashes on the relic blade and the spear head boltgun but the original dash bar counter shows 3 that are good dashes? what is correct?

[balmy moat]

i'm not sure on that one, but i just use numericUI's

[tame anchor]

what does melk gamble do vs brunts

[smoky ember]

the problem is that usually things that are good at horde clear are abysmal at carapace, and things that are great at carapace have at least acceptable horde clear, so you hardly lose anything taking a carapace melee

combat knife, shivs , tac axe

all single target weapons but with good enough horde clear

dclaw, hsword, whatever else

horde clear weapons with horrid carapace damage

[eager flame]

Melk can give you RNG curios as fast as you have Ingots (weeklies currency) to burn. For the most part, weapons are just as easy to farm from Brunt since you can see the leveled caps and just spent 10K dockets of the weapon type you want until you get something decent to upgrade. Waiting on the shop RNG can get you something decent every week or two if you login every day at Melk's and more often for Brunts shop rotation. If you have time to kill just snipe curios from the Melk daily curated shop or Brunts 2 curio options that rotate every hour or so.

[tame anchor]

how do you gamble curios on melk? Is that how you get +3 stam easily?

[eager flame]

You go to Melk, choose Mystery Acquisitions, select curios and spam buy until you have what you want. Might take 100K Ingots or more to farm a decent set of endgame curios (after you have leveled your character). For Stamina, you want a curio rating of 410 or higher as there is a bug at lower ratings that shows +3 Stamina but only gives you +2 stamina in the mission.

[tame anchor]

why is there 200 200 250 ingot options

oooh

wait

i see

dum dum me

wait i gotta go into inventory each time to look?

[cold moon]

yeah

Buy 3-4 curios at a time is what I usually do

[strange thunder]

actually there just came out a mod that renames curios to their stat instead

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/730

[cold moon]

Also do not spam click/button mash when buying them cause you may get repeats

like 3 x 18%+ Health curios in a row or some shit

Darktide servers do be funny

[strange thunder]

with the mod it's trivial, you just wait for each name to appear

[jaunty venture]

what do i do with those funny hexagon looking currency that you get from daily/weekly?

[tame anchor]

melk bugs

[jaunty venture]

where is that

ah nvm found him, didnt know he had a shop

thanks

[strange thunder]

ye you can reroll bad challenges as well

like pick up 16 grimoires/scriptures or play x games without anyone dying

kills/missions completed/resource pickups are the easiest

[fierce sandal]

The rank 410 +3 stamina rule still applies, though just as an FYI. Though the mod author did say it might get fixed in a future update

[strange thunder]

ye I just assumed you'd still do the sanity check at 400 3 stam

main advantage is just seeing what the curios is as you buy it at melk

[tame anchor]

thats weird, i have a 400 and 410, ingame it both says +10 for the attack speed perk on hive scum

adding one or the other does add +3

[strange thunder]

but look at your stamina gauge

[tame anchor]

i guess i dont have a mod for that

[strange thunder]

can't you just enable the old segmented stamina bar in options

[tame anchor]

oh i see what you mean

it does go from 7->10 with the 400 still

i guess i now have two +3 after gambling like 10k melk bucks

[strange thunder]

yeah ig that's mostly what you want it for on scum

[crimson bridge]

I have really long load times on one of my PCs but I have no idea why. My other PC is significantly faster. Even some old potato laptops load way faster despite being much worse cpu and ssd

I havent been able to find any solution online

[sick arch]

Can you do any maelstrom mission to unlock havoc or is it only auric maelstrom?

[strange thunder]

auric

it only gives you a boost to 16 tho, you can always start at 1

once you hit lvl 30 on your character

or wait you need maelstrom to unlock it at the start ig

then yeah it can be any

[sick arch]

The character says i have to complete a maelstrrlom. The character bejng girl

[strange thunder]

yeah I forgot, been so long since I did it

so yeah any below auric lets you start havoc at rank 1

completing auric lets you start at rank 16

this only applies to those you host yourself tho

[sick arch]

So heresy will suffice? Is it super hard? There was some person advertising a havoc weekly quest clear for dinamite points but i did not have any maelstrom done

[crimson bridge]

you can do any maelstrom to unlock havoc

doing auric maelstrom unlocks havoc16

if you do heresy, you unlock havoc1

[strange thunder]

I wouldn't take up people on those kind of offers, they just carry you at the highest rank and kinda destroys the whole notion of ppl having the clearance means they're competent

just farm resources at your own pace, if you can complete weekly havoc missions by your own without being carried then it's a good supplement

[sick arch]

Makes sense . Thank you for the reply

[sick arch]

Thank you

[shadow skiff]

Did you test in a real game? Psykhanium lies about it.

[tame anchor]

how would i notice 2% difference

[shadow skiff]

Stamina is either 2 or 3. If you can't count bars...

I think you shouldn't be on Discord.

[cold moon]

There is a setting in gameplay to change stamina from percentage to actual number of stamina bars.

edit: Options > Interface and turning off "Show Stamina with 25% dividers"

[shadow skiff]

IDK why they changed and made THAT default.

[tame anchor]

i did count the bars

but i counted it in psyk

you're saying it would be different number of bars in a game?

why?

[keen flume]

Theres a setting for old and new stamina bars i think

[cold moon]

Psykhanium is a different session from live missions and how stamina is counted being different is an oversight from Fatshark from my interpretation.

[tame anchor]

so it could be showing as +3 in psyk but end up being +2 in a game?

how weird

[cold moon]

Yeah

[tame anchor]

huh

ok

[cold moon]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/3-stamina-curios-issue/82949

[tame anchor]

wow

[cold moon]

Which is why go for level 410/420 Stamina curios so you are guaranteed +3 stamina

[shadow skiff]

Yes.

Is why need to test in a real game.

[tame anchor]

ya its +2 in game

[shadow skiff]

So fake +3. Yeah, I wish FS just fix it. The lie is such a big diff.

[tame anchor]

something weird with NA servers atm

pushing poxbursters aint working

[shadow skiff]

This is normal. Fatshark janked. Only the person they target even has the chance to push unless you have a hard push skill like shout.

[tame anchor]

is lethal prox+puncture bolter + dog explosion do much?

i dont notice it doing much more dmg in psyk

[shadow skiff]

They fixed puncture+dogsplosion for ages.

Literally only worked on week one.

[tame anchor]

so neither blessings do anything>?

[clear plume]

Lethal does

not puncture

[hushed mauve]

wait u tellin me this is still a thing? this bug was talked abotu in the weeks after release xd

lol it is even worse now ... i have a 400 +3 stam and it does nto even show the 7 stam bars in psychanium

[shadow skiff]

Because that one rolled even lower than the point it mistakenly rounds up in sense.

[hushed mauve]

oh boy ...

[pulsar pilot]

Is 410 guaranteed?

I've been going for 420 ones just in case

[eager flame]

Yeah 410 and above works for Stamina +3.

[pulsar pilot]

cool!

[barren mortar]

what worst map rn for havoc 40?

[twilit girder]

How do i make the game less laggy? Feels like it's running at 25 fps.

[scenic steeple]

dont think you can, game runs like shit for me done everything to try fix it

[vocal nacelle]

Mods

And disable all stuff

[sick arch]

Is flame thrower better than melee for horde clear on high difficulties for zealot. Also is it more positioning intensive.

[smoky ember]

melee is always going to be your primary horde clear due to needing ammo and not every horde needing a flamer to be used

however flamer can very easily clear a screen

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFbuOEMfovkLz-qAu?invite=cr-MSxpb1osMjA0ODY2MDQ3&v=15

id suggest flamer to be used against dense packs of elites

the only thing a flamer wont kill is bosses and crushers

[vocal nacelle]

dumping flame on boss still deal huge amount of damage

dump 1 can and go melee afterwards

[sick arch]

So is it the prefered weapon for higher difficulty or due to ammo constraints (on auric and higher) . I like combat shot gun just because but if flame thrower is meta i can manage it

[smoky ember]

if you like shotgun, use shotgun !

you dont need flamer at all

[vocal nacelle]

whats your current shotgun

blessing and perk

[smoky ember]

dont worry about meta

just play with what you enjoy, you arent going to be holding a team back solely because you arent running a meta loadout

personal skill is much more important

[sick arch]

Its just a level 370 . Not sure which one but the one wirh 11 bullets . I have just always used shotguns in FPS games . Not sure on blessing as im not online at the moment

[sick arch]

Ok thank you.

[smoky ember]

agripinna? the shotgun with the slug special?

[sick arch]

I believe it to be so. is in the combat shotgun line.

[vocal nacelle]

there's 3 shotgun variant

each have its own special ammo

and there's double barrel shotgun

[balmy moat]

high power high accuracy slug is the good one

[vocal nacelle]

is it blue, green or brown

[balmy moat]

flashbacks to when i asked that question and the response was "red"

for reconlas

[sick arch]

I will sign in and see a moment please

[balmy moat]

(commissary cosmetic)

[vocal nacelle]

its pink

[sick arch]

It says actrasan mk-ix . I dont have loyalty to it if there is better

[vocal nacelle]

huh

oh the flame ammo one

[balmy moat]

i should practice the other marks tbh sometime, see where it's usecase is

the slug one is really good for special sniping

[vocal nacelle]

i rarely use flame one, i think the recommended blessing is either flechette & scattershot or manstopper & scattershot

[sick arch]

What is the slug one? Agripiba mk8?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[sick arch]

Ok thanks to all

[rotund ermine]

Need to double check something again

Backstabs count as “Weakpoints”?

[strange thunder]

uh

[little coyote]

Pretty sure that's a no

[strange thunder]

idts

[little coyote]

you can get backstab weakpoint hits but a backstab isn't automatically a weakpoint hit

you still need to hit the back of the head or the BoN pustule to get the weakpoint

[keen flume]

I think backstabs count as a different type of hit

But not as weakpoint

[rotund ermine]

thanks

[tame anchor]

I guess dueling twins is pretty easy in psyk with no mobs around

[strange thunder]

you usually don't get that many mobs surrounding you in a havoc game when twins are around

[rain crypt]

So I'm a little bitch baby that plays on Heresy. What difficulty does Rinda invade the dark communion when you play it through the special assignment tab?

[little coyote]

That's news to me that she does at all

[balmy moat]

she doesnt appear after the orthus offensive

rodin only appears strung up between the giant stim canisters on that level

the only instances where you get twins on missions where they are not predetermined spawns, is up in havoc

[strange thunder]

with inconspicuous new names

[shadow skiff]

Naw, one will show on mercantile campaign.

Guaranteed.

[balmy moat]

thats before orthus

[shadow skiff]

Oh. But yeah, can be a pain for newbies.

[hushed mauve]

coming back tot the stamina thing ... i am in game with a 410 +3 stamina and all i get is 4 bars

[strange thunder]

are you sure you're not looking at the dodge meter?

stamina bar is not segmented by default anymore

[hushed mauve]

POSITIVE

[strange thunder]

and this is like a dueling sword or?

[hushed mauve]

crusher

[hushed mauve]

how the heck shoudl one know then if the curio works or not xD

[strange thunder]

well you can see 4 segments after the bar is depleted there

[hushed mauve]

yeah

[strange thunder]

or actually that just might be 25, 50, 75% showings

but you can enable the segmented bar in settings like it used to be

[hushed mauve]

i mean it is always 4 bars for me no matter if i use a +3 or no +3 stam curio

[strange thunder]

then yeah it's not related to that

[hushed mauve]

so ai assume the 25% marker theory is right

weird design choice tbh

[strange thunder]

ye, if you have a 2 stamina curios you can just swap in psykhanium

[shadow skiff]

You need to change it in the settings first.

[strange thunder]

and see if stamina goes down faster when sprinting for example

so it should still be working fine

I can't say I ever found the segmented to be that useful

[hushed mauve]

that is a great idea tbh ^^

[strange thunder]

like ogryn has tons of stamina on his weapons, but he eats stamina super fast when sprinting for example

[hushed mauve]

i mean it only helps when trying to figure out if the +3 curio is bugged or not xD

[strange thunder]

but very little when blocking and the likes

[shadow skiff]

It's mostly for when you know sprinting is 1 bar a sec and such and counting pushes.

[hushed mauve]

how? only settings i can find is show or not show stamina bar with 25% dividers

[shadow skiff]

It's really a taste thing.

[shadow skiff]

Turn that off.

Or on.

Flip it.

[hushed mauve]

it is on atm

[shadow skiff]

So turn it off, go into a game.

[strange thunder]

it should revert to the old style then ye

[shadow skiff]

Then count.

[strange thunder]

like so

[shadow skiff]

Then decide if you like the old style or new.

[hushed mauve]

i liek the new style in general

just coutned 410 works can confirm, imam go check the one on my vet as well

cuz i think she has a lower one as does my arbi

[strange thunder]

it's only 400 that is deceptive

idt 390 can be +3

[hushed mauve]

vet has a 400 and it works as +3

[shadow skiff]

In a real game? Not psykhanium.

Psykhanium lies.

[hushed mauve]

oh ... no didn't try vet in real game

[shadow skiff]

Best way is just boot into an upprising game on a dead server to count, then leave.

[hushed mauve]

nah imma just coutn and finish the mission

arbi has a 410 so should be fine

thx for the help though :3

yeh, vet onyl has 6 stam bars instead of the 7 she should have

[rain oyster]

hello guys is there a way to find a person that has left havoc for example to invite him back

i tried looking invite previous mission but cant find the same player that was in my pt

anyway to use mods to easily find people?

[sick arch]

Why are poxbusters still hitting me if block and push and even dodge back?

[fresh ocean]

maybe you are pushing them too late? Some movement in the game is kind of slow with weapons so it could be a combination of those things

also if you have high ping you might need to be pushing even earlier

[balmy moat]

if youre mid havoc, its a lost cause. otherwise, steam name ( who are you mod ), or if theres a mod to view friend codes just keep track of those in the future, idk if it exists tho)

[rain oyster]

ok thx

[balmy moat]

cant bring people in to active havocs

[crimson bridge]

Is there any good resource on the AI director? Both in general and also maybe havoc specifically. I think my gameplay mechanics are pretty good now, but my lack of game knowledge is hurting my havoc climb in the low 30s. I don't really know when or where I can safely push, boss trigger points, what type of enemies spawn infinitely if I turtle / run backwards, etc.

[sick arch]

Thank you. I will try sooner. I think i have like 20 ping but also dont know where to see it but thats what it is on another game

[fresh ocean]

Does anyone know the mod that lets you disable specific sounds in the game? For example psykers peril build up sound

[fresh ocean]

you need a mod i think

[clear plume]

Ask certain people (Kuli, Jsat, combine). Looking into their steam resources. There is also a reddit post about how specials works

I can give general tips but I don't know the code breakdown, I just know how it works in game

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1mf1osk/the_specials_of_darktide_and_their_inner_workings/

Learning triggers also comes from experience/using a visual mod

[balmy moat]

base game settings for peril FX intensity. not at pc rn i think its in interface?

otherwise idk of a mod for sound effects, just that i have peril sounds at 20% from base settings

[sick arch]

Penance is account wide im assuming since it has multiple rewards for differenr classses

[keen sonnet]

If you mean the armors yeah

Iirc you can click through the panels for the blue armors and see what you get on the other classes

[crimson bridge]

I think i took a look at this when I first started playing, but ill take a closer look again now that I have more exp. Hopefully I can learn something new.
and yea, I have started watching some streams/YT videos of the good players to pick up on some tips and tricks. Do you have a link to combine and kulis YT or twitch streams?

[clear plume]

They go by the same name on those platforms iirc

@lucid epoch Do you know?

I don't twitch or YouTube darktide people

[crimson bridge]

looks like I was able to find their twitch and YT. They dont seem to upload/stream too often, but ill try watching some of their older content

[hoary hawk]

can you get all penance rewards without getting dlcs or do you need arbites and hive scum to push the final parts

[hushed mauve]

can be done without dlc's is just easier with dlc's

[lucid epoch]

oh

my links got ate

oh you found his links

@crimson bridge one word of caution when watching combine play: some of his build choices and gameplay decisions are made solely because he really just IS that guy

eg) he will almost never take thy wrath be swift on his zealot because he trusts himself to not get hit often enough for player stun to matter

[timber reef]

Ik this is a stupid question but what are the easiest to hardest content to play like for example ik the basic difficulty levels like uprising malice heresy etc but then what's after that, what's this maelstrom and auric stuff

[lucid epoch]

auric is just the next level up from damnation. the only thing to note is that it doesn't increase enemy health or dmg iirc. just spawn rates and enemy group compositions

[timber reef]

And what's the maelstrom thing I saw on the map

[lucid epoch]

it's just a mission with (often) unique modifiers/modifier combos

[timber reef]

Oh okay

[lucid epoch]

they will usually have higher spawn rates/the director will want to destroy you more

iirc

[timber reef]

And can't you choose the difficulty level for that mission?

[lucid epoch]

let me open up my game rq

[lucid epoch]

it's only auric and heresy levels it seems

[timber reef]

Ah okay so auric missions are like the endgame basically and hardest content?

[strange thunder]

no that's havoc

but it doesn't have matchmaking

auric maelstrom is the hardest content where you match with randoms

[timber reef]

Ohhh okay got it thanks guys

[clear plume]

I made a quick graph

havoc is the end end gamemode but depeneing on rank can be easier then normal board

maelstroms are similar

[gusty whale]

RIP sedition

[timber reef]

[clear plume]

does it make sense though?

difficulty is a common question

[gusty whale]

imo yes

[sick arch]

Do any of you kind souls know the following : i receive darktide for free via pc game pass . If i buy a steam key can my fatshark id including character progression penances etc be on steam? The reason ask is because at any time gamepass can remove the game from catalogue

[vocal nacelle]

No save transfer

[lone adder]

<@&735928989146939404> We got one of those Mr Beast bots here

Thank you!

[balmy moat]

no, as bristly said, only thing they can do is character levels and nonpremium currency iirc

gear, aquilla, cosmetics, all stay on the other account

[hushed mauve]

maelstrom is down to heresy though ^^ and havoc starts at malice

[sick arch]

I cant seem to find a recent post newer than 8 months ago discussing dueling sword. In the past 8 months has dueling sword been reduced from very very good?

[hushed mauve]

still pretty good imho

i am currently lvling it and i find it very enjoyable :3

[sick arch]

Thank you

[hushed mauve]

boy how i love people that do not need a medicae station becasue no coprruption takign a medicae charge despite a medpack being down right next to it xD

[keen flume]

<@&735928989146939404> Another bot scam

[lime idol]

It’s still top tier but it’s a one trick pony

[cold moon]

[balmy moat]

<@&735928989146939404> images above still there btw

[fresh ocean]

I was kind of hoping to just out right disable them in a way that makes them not break the other important sounds of the game and im not sure if base game does that or has enough control. Like yeah peril is just one of the things id like to disable

[balmy moat]

it doesnt have that much control

[fresh ocean]

well i can only hope peril sound being at 0 ccmpletely disables it

or if the code still trys to fight it playing with other sounds

[wraith rune]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17

I know it says screen effects, but it also mutes whatever you're disabling

[fresh ocean]

Thank you ill check it out

[limber plank]

Hey guys silly question but I just brought hive scum do the stimm components stack or is it forced viscosity to get the big perk?

Also does chemical dependency work with the custom stimms?

[eager flame]

yes

[eager flame]

you can mix any custom stimm buffs until you reach max viscosity or lower the cooldown by not choosing as many

[limber plank]

Cheers man

[fresh ocean]

any guides to lowering ping for this game as much as possible

suppose i dont know where the servers are located

[vocal nacelle]

what region you are from

just test every server, check the terminal

and press E to switch server

[fresh ocean]

my ping also ranges from 35 - 60 so i was wondering if i can stablize that at all

[vocal nacelle]

try vpn

[fresh ocean]

NA East is my best server connection

and wouldn't a vpn be useless unless i know the location of the server?

[vocal nacelle]

it can improve your latency

[crystal stream]

Probably a stupid question, how do I know when I'm scoring a critical hit? Is it yellow cross hairs?

[clear plume]

yellow lines

double lines is weakspot

[stoic locust]

Should also make a noise and have a colored swing trail

[keen flume]

1.3K hours and I still can't memorize the cross hair hits

So I just use killfeed improved that show the icons with critical hit yellow

[clear plume]

they did change them before

[heady flint]

Is anyone available to help with Just a Flesh Wound penance?

[wraith rune]

yea I can help you

[heady flint]

Excellent, many thanks

[crystal stream]

Do weak points increase the odds of a critical?

[clear plume]

no

[crystal stream]

Thank you!

[fresh ocean]

what the hell do people do as psyker when every sound that they generate overrides enemy sounds? Like poxbursters on me 24/7 and i only see them not hear them

[strange thunder]

you mean like peril sounds?

[balmy moat]

ive yet to not hear a burster

[fresh ocean]

literally any sound effect generated by the psyker

peril is 0 but i doubt they coded it to be fully disabled

[strange thunder]

why would psyker be unique

[fresh ocean]

thats just how stuff is

nothing is made the same

[strange thunder]

wat

what are these sounds you are talking about then

[fresh ocean]

so abilities more often because of talents

so you have to deal with that more often

then if you are using the sword the charge is also happening often

not to mention filling the bar just in general

[strange thunder]

I'm not following you

[fresh ocean]

these all generate sounds

[strange thunder]

reving a chain weapon also generate a sound

those are loud

doesn't make it impossible to hear other stuff because of it

[fresh ocean]

well the game for sure has some sound issues and all im saying is come classes and builds might cause more sound build up more often

i dont think thats too hard to comprehend?

not sure how people deal with it though

[strange thunder]

I mean if we're not experiencing the same problem

then it's a bit hard to comprehend

psyker is my most played class, I don't really have problems hearing bursters or other special sound cues

[fresh ocean]

right and people talking about the sound issues are just liars

oh and the clips

[strange thunder]

I'm not calling anyone anything

I'm just sharing my own experience

so did hexis

[fresh ocean]

to be completely fair i asked how people handle it not if anyone else has the issue

[strange thunder]

only time I have sound issues is when there's a million bursters and they break the sound engine

and yeah that

[fresh ocean]

yeah and now nonsense is filled in between here and my question

[strange thunder]

trying to decipher what you were talking about isn't nonsense

we're not like technical support

this is mostly a gameplay help channel so

[fresh ocean]

which the question was about gameplay and help with it

see what i mean

[strange thunder]

ok, well I can't help you so gl

[balmy moat]

this i agree with. music is at 0, but if i turn my headset up and everything else off, its still playing lol

[fresh ocean]

Unironically its just like that?

And stuff like this is what makes me struggle later on. There like no good reason to not hear this guy ahead of time but i so happen to proc two loud audios

it doesn't even sound like much is going on in the audio so idk

but like man I'd like to play this game on hard content without the actual challenge being the lack of mechanical polish which just results in rng

[balmy moat]

i did hear its spawn noise as well

it wasnt sounds not playing

[fresh ocean]

whats the spawn noise sound like?

oh i see

yeah that does not sound like a pox burster spawn

[balmy moat]

the scream is that

i would hope i know them by now

[fresh ocean]

maybe theres just multiple

but the pox burster i thought sound had more metal like chain sounds to it

[amber salmon]

They scream when they spawn?

[fresh ocean]

yeah idk i heard that exact sound 3 time after this clip and none spawned

to be honest i thought it was a horde sound playing but sometimes nothing comes so idk

i didnt even think the pox burster had a spawn noise because ya know they are already loud enough (if they feel like it i guess)

https://youtu.be/CRssfet26mI?si=XM7u_PWtY6BqrdDc&t=56

yeah i dont know i dont really hear this

could be outdated too but why would they remove the unique sounds

no wait i hear it

thats kind of stupidly quiet

[fresh ocean]

the sound happens 5 seconds into that clip if you want a live hearing of it mid chaos

[amber salmon]

Oh wow, I don't think I've ever paid much attention to these sounds, lol

[strange thunder]

idt I've taken notice of the poxburster spawn noise before

[balmy moat]

im normally just a very audio focused person

that scream IS the spawn sound, but bursters also spawn places they cant path out of, so they just explode when they hit a wall or fence

[strange thunder]

im also a speaker player

[balmy moat]

i would hope at 3k hours i'd know the sounds

[keen flume]

You could hear the spawn noise scream

But the ticking bomb approach played very shortly

[fresh ocean]

oh it absolutely did

[keen flume]

Specialists enemies always play audio cues everytime they spawn to alert the players of their existence

Just like was for L4D2

[balmy moat]

it didnt spawn far away either

[fresh ocean]

bruster one is pretty similiar to regular horde screams

[balmy moat]

except shorter, singular

[fresh ocean]

and quieter which makes it blend more into the backgroun d

[keen flume]

Horde screams are from several groaners/poxers screaming together

[strange thunder]

when was the spawn sound btw

in the vid

[fresh ocean]

5 seconds

lol

[strange thunder]

ok I can hear the scream

I was listening for the chain rattles

[fresh ocean]

yeah but if you really gotta dig for it man its a sign

[keen flume]

I forgot does the Sound effect audio settings also apply to enemy audio cues?

Or only from players

and their weapons

[fresh ocean]

this sound blows

[keen flume]

It always best to adjust your audio settings to the most suitable for enemies be the highest and comfortable

I see so many new and average skilled players on reddit just playing the game audio all at max and they go complain why they could not hear anything lmao

[fresh ocean]

to be fair thats kinda on the game too

[keen flume]

Not want to say skill issue but you were kinda sprinting too much in the middle of a enemy wave

[fresh ocean]

i mean do i have that much control over audio?

i thought you could only lower two options

like im not sure anything is making that burster sound as loud as it should

[keen flume]

There was a small glince of seeing the burster smoke particle too but your vision also got blocked miliseconds before the burster by the gas

[fresh ocean]

yeah in a situation like that i dont blame myself

like yeah i can see it after but that was kind of unlucky

[keen flume]

Common mistake everyone does but game likes to be funny

a bit too funny sometimes, wanting to make a troll

[fresh ocean]

the cherry ontop after this is i pushed a burster and it didnt explode and then a boss pushed me back when it came back again and just killed me

[keen flume]

[crystal stream]

I didn't even know that the Sniper had a spawn noise, or a noise when finding a target. 😬 I only knew the Sniper had a noise when he's about to fire.

[keen flume]

Sniper spawn audio cue is really a weird one lol

If you would remove, it would not make much difference because we all too used for the visual red laser

[keen flume]

Psyker standing still for aura farm

But I was trying to talk about when he spawns and plays the distorted noises

[mild snow]

For Curios, if a Curio has 17% toughness, but it shows 410 power.... is that still 17% toughness?

[keen flume]

Oh wait I think that only plays with a sniper group from ventilation purge

[wraith rune]

yes it's still 17% toughness

[keen flume]

That only applied to stamina curios if not mistaken

[balmy moat]

this is correct

stamina is the only one with the rounding error

[crystal stream]

It would be nice if the Sniper audio cue was a bit louder. I only learned that they had one from today. And I've got two level 30s. So, I'm not insanely new, but not really a veteran either. I think that Night Mode audio helps with cues.

[strange thunder]

sniper can't really jump you like a burster tho

[toxic ferry]

When are we allowed to post pictures so I can show some weapon stats I have for questions about

[crystal stream]

You have to talk more to get permissions. Someone might be willing to let you look at them in direct messages. I'm not educated enough with Warhammer Darktide to be comfortable at looking at your stats.

[toxic ferry]

Fair enough

[mild snow]

wait, so what does that mean? you have to be at 420? with +3 stamina...or else stamina will only be +2?

[vocal nacelle]

410 at min, yes

[mild snow]

So... if its 410, its safe? but if 400... then what? in game it shows up as 2 stam only?

[vocal nacelle]

psykanium will show +3 stamina bar but in mission its +2

[mild snow]

ah, thanks

[restive jewel]

why am i flipflopping around different classes? should I stick to one class

[gleaming lantern]

depends. i've got every class maxed and kitted and play a different one every time

if you're learning, stick with one and get competent if you want to work up to playing higher difficulties

[balmy moat]

whatever you want to do. we have so many character slots for a reason

[restive jewel]

just for pushing harder content

I am def better with arbites but I feel like that's an easy class for new players

I also like hive scum

[gleaming lantern]

yea arbites is very strong in terms of resilience so you can get far while still making mistakes that would get you downed on another class

scum is very strong in terms of damage and is pretty unforgiving in terms squishiness

[eager flame]

Both the ranged and melee ults give you full toughness reset on Scum. Stim can also restore a lot of toughness. It doesn't have as many get out of jail free abilities as other classes but can be solid at surviving once you get the hang of things to prioritize avoiding and movement tech. Ranged immunity ult with cooldown reduction buffs and melee immunity slide is solid. You just can't depend on tanking hits or get reckless out in the open.

[restive jewel]

what is a good balanced high damage with good enough defenses for hive scum

[faint perch]

The thing is, often with hive scum, the best defense is being evasive

[hushed mauve]

Depends if you want to go melee or ranged or full chem. Every "tree" can be tweaked to be good at dmg and defense.
Your best defense as scum will be mobility and knowing where to be in which situation, weaving in and out of enemies.

[restive jewel]

all three

[faint perch]

It's difficult to specialize in every path. The result will be a weaker build overall

I would recommend making multiple builds and trying them in matches to see what feels best for you

Personally I find focusing on melee and evasion to be useful. The needle gun can take care of armoured enemies fairly easily, without requiring a lot of talent points

[restive jewel]

which melee weapon

is it rampage axe or shivs

[faint perch]

Whatever you personally enjoy most. The balancing is good enough that most weapons can work well if the talent tree is built around it. Personally though, I prefer shivs, so I can apply bleed and whatever the chemical DoT is called, then quickly dodge out of harm's way

The main thing with hive scum is to always be moving

[stoic raptor]

are there any good ways to get rid of the bots in a mission? lets say if you and a friend wanna play duos?

like maybe get them both downed and let the timer run

but ive been trying for.....hours and i cant figure a way to streamline it

[clear plume]

Just let them die

Nothing else can be done

[stoic raptor]

gotcha

thanks Ainz!

[thick acorn]

what is the new event effects/modifiers??

[void forge]

New event?

The cartel event ended like two weeks ago?

[shadow skiff]

There's hints of an upcoming event in the code.

Said to be basically infinite grenades.

Basically ppl say it's to sell busted OP BoomBringer.

[void forge]

More rocks per rock?

[shadow skiff]

Cos it's one weakness is still reliant on grenade pickups.

[shadow skiff]

Dunno if event will do anything for rock, throwing knoifes, Dogsplosion or Psyker Blitzes.

[void forge]

Seems like ogryns drop grenades on death in the new event?

[vocal nacelle]

new event is active

[void forge]

Announcement doko

[pastel forge]

Why do they refuse to give more than just 4k diamantine😭

That shit is nothing

[strange thunder]

compared to h40 rewards, sure

[hushed mauve]

20k diamantine xD

[zealous dome]

You guys need Diamantine?

[strange thunder]

no, only melk bucks to spend on the curios gacha

[strange thunder]

you're still early on

they will pile up eventually

[steep silo]

Melk will save us all

[thick acorn]

the events' increased blitz regen does nothing for psykers outside of assail?

[toxic ferry]

I managed to get an 80/80 damage in a 78/80 accuracy bolt gun for my Zealot

That good?

[pastel forge]

what are the other stats

[toxic ferry]

Damage 80/80
Reload 77/80
Collateral 58/78
Mobility 69/80
Stability 41/62

[eternal mortar]

You want a 60 Mobility

[pastel forge]

60 collateral*

mobility affects accuracy while moving

[eternal mortar]

Consider: This is for Zealot. While a Vet might benefit from that, he's better off mowing down imo

[pastel forge]

still collateral dump

[toxic ferry]

I also use mk3 over mk2

[pastel forge]

dump is still collateral

theres basically no difference in stagger breakpoints between 60 and 80 collateral

that goes for nearly every single gun

[toxic ferry]

There's a ke at melk with

Damage 70/80
Ammo 53/65
Stopping power 71/80
Mobility 64/76
Stability 67/79

[pastel forge]

the stats to the left of the slash dont matter

what matters is the ones to the right

[pastel forge]

not good

[toxic ferry]

What do the numbers on the left even mean

[pastel forge]

theyre the current stat numbers

right is the max stats of the gun if you were to fully upgrade it

[toxic ferry]

Oh I need to point out
The bull going to head up there is not even 500 yet

That's at its current 400

[pastel forge]

yes

if it was at 500 all the stats would match

[toxic ferry]

So I got a pretty decent bolter once it's 500?

[pastel forge]

book?

[pastel forge]

only if it rolled a 60 max on collateral

[toxic ferry]

Will the 58 not increase?

Because 78 is its Max

[pastel forge]

78 is the max on that one yes

you want it at 60

because then the other stats will be 80

[toxic ferry]

Just sacrificed weapons and empowered it
Now the current stats are
80/80
80/80
78/78
80/80
61/62

[pastel forge]

shouldve waited to get one with the proper stats

cause thats a bunch of diamantine wasted

[toxic ferry]

It's the strongest range weapon I have at the moment
Well hold me over till I can get one that's really good

[hushed mauve]

honestly... i am considering going back to uprising and doing the 10 missions for the insignia ... dun care about the rest and its not fun enough to be played on damnation/auric

[sick arch]

What weapon is currently the best for ofryn

[soft violet]

It's not cost efficient but if you're sitting on a ton of funds you can purchase crappy white items from Brunt's armory until you get the perfect roll and then upgrade that.

[hushed mauve]

that highly depends on what you want to do: play heresy or damnation: take whatever
paly auric or higher havoc: what you wanna do? smash? shoot? protec? i suggest #ogryn-class check the pins and refer to the ogrynomicon
warning in case of broken bone'ead implant a spark'ead or shouty is required to fully comprehend the ogrynomicon

[sick arch]

Ok thank you for the direction

[hushed mauve]

anytime

[hushed mauve]

i foudn that is the fastest an cheapest way tbh

[balmy moat]

i wouldnt say cheapest (though if youre lucky it is cheapest), but definitely fastest

you could get the right stats on roll one, roll 20, or roll 438. (im 30+ million ordo in and still hunting for my perfect FGS )

a slower but guarenteed cheaper method is watch brunts shop like a hawk, between every mission

[strange thunder]

what's the perfect, how low you getting warp res

[balmy moat]

so far one psyker has an 18/60, and another has 22/60

i want 10 or below, willing to sacrifice some defenses

perfection ofc would be 0 warp res, 50+ defense, 80 everything else, but i would be fine with WR 3-9

six has a 10/ 4x80 and i must win

[strange thunder]

I think my best is 29, but don't remember if it's a FS or FGS

[hushed mauve]

Oh... i just ho for the 4x80 1x60 splits ^^'

[strange thunder]

yeah that isn't hard as long as your character is at lvl 30

[restive jewel]

what are the rewards for playing event

[faint perch]

#📢news-bulletin message

[strange thunder]

the secondary reward is farming ogryn kills for penances, especially reaper

I remember doing that for the last walking giants one

[restive jewel]

I want that 4000

difficulty doesn't matter right

[strange thunder]

no

but where else would you get the chance to rocket 7+ ogryns but on auric?

[restive jewel]

is that a requirement for rewards

you mean just for fun right

[strange thunder]

for fun, but also farming penances as I said above

[restive jewel]

i wanna level up ogryn just wondering whether it would feel clunky

[strange thunder]

I wouldn't say it's clunky, it's different

even tho you spend stamina fast, dodge less distance, you still get to push away trash mobs with dodges and you have just a lot of stagger potential overall

but newer players suffer with ogryn out in the open, so it takes some getting used to

there's a great ogryn guide pinned in #ogryn-class

teaches you everything you need to know about the class

[restive jewel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3044646170 this one

[strange thunder]

yes

[hushed mauve]

you meant to say primary, right?

[strange thunder]

well if you need them, I'm only doing event for the insignia

[hushed mauve]

fair

[sick arch]

How integral is riposte attacks. I seem to manage block and push now but feel like riposte attack is so slow that its better to just light attack on hordes ?

[hushed mauve]

clarify riposte attack?

you mean the attack after shove? if so usually it pays of for me

[strange thunder]

what weapon is this btw?

[amber salmon]

Riposte attack is the parry for dueling sword and deathclaw?

[strange thunder]

think the game just calls that parry

but that might just be on devil's claw, idk

either way they're not for hordes, it's for strong single targets really

[rotund granite]

Got a roll for one 61 and four 80's, am guessing this is a bug, is it? unless this is super min maxxing and that 1% will save you from you from Nurgle himself

[strange thunder]

rounding error

some other is 79

it's neglible tho

[azure plume]

It's pretty clunky considering weapon swaps reloads and whatnot

[azure plume]

Broken for some characters

Cough psyker

[balmy moat]

if its dueling sword... its still a good weapon, long as you dont try to parry while at 100% peril... (youll explode lol)

[fresh ocean]

is the turn speed on reapers just for like looks or something?

[clear plume]

just for looks yeah

their animations aren't accurate to their damage

[fresh ocean]

i mean maybe it would of looked weird for them to turn so fast but id rather visual accuracy over confusion

[digital stone]

if you get a damage bonus against a certain armor class, does it apply to all enemies that have that class of armor or only when you hit that armor directly

[clear plume]

Damage increases to armor types only effect damage to parts of the body hit

Carapace will increase damage to mauler head since its cara but not the rest of its body since its flak

DoTs and explosion work differently btw

they hit something called "body mass" iirc

[digital stone]

'25% damage to carapace armor' would therefore be a lot more clear than 'carapace armored enemies'

classic fatshark

[clear plume]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743&searchtext=enemy

here is the guide for every enemy armor type

[scenic nest]

greetings commanders and mrs commanders. I have a question about rending, how does rending work ? My enemy is Auric Crusher, this is my weapon, it is Power Maul with 106 damage on light attack swing towards carapace armour. Im intrested on about the 25% rending blessing but mechanically and mathematically its so hard to figure out what "rending" means ?

[strange thunder]

rending boosts your own dmg against Carapace, Flak, Maniac, and Unyielding

usually depicted as like armor piercing

[lime idol]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781

go to rending & brittleness section

[scenic nest]

thank you kind sir

[tired quail]

do i need to beat karnak twins to unlock the hard mode?

[balmy moat]

after doing the puzzle, yes

you can do the puzzle on a lower difficulty then do hardmode without needing to do the puzzle each attempt

(its the righthand bell)

(left bell is just the normal skip to the end)

[tired quail]

thanks

[strange thunder]

if someone else has it unlocked you can just go to hard mode through them

and get the puzzle penance through just beating them

[eager flame]

unless they changed the penance you only get the hard mode penance from beating hard mode on Damnation (maybe auric now?). The puzzle penance could be done on any difficulty but wasn't unlocked by using the skip bell to hard mode at least at launch.

[strange thunder]

that's how I got it at least, I never completed the puzzle

[unique dagger]

you can still do it that way

damnation

i did both penance in one with someone else’s skip recently

and ngl that shit was way easier then i expected they just tanky and they add like 3 crushers or maulers every phase 💀

[fresh ocean]

Do we know what generates grenades in the event?

[eager flame]

They nerfed the fight around the time Havoc dropped. Used to be you could not be revived because the respawn area was locked off (in hard mode). Pretty sure they decreased the enemy spam in Hard Mode a bit as well.

[eager flame]

The explosive enemies when they die have a chance to refill your grenades.

[fresh ocean]

so bombers grenadiers and bursters?

or do ogryns also count sense they drop bombs

[unique dagger]

yeah because the enemy count dead ass felt the same just a sprinkle bit of armor; i was expecting to get slammed

[harsh spruce]

Is there somewhere I can find help with Havoc missions. Me and my buddy are 15 but it’s getting difficult to get beyond that without help

[clear plume]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075 or using the in game party finder system

[glossy jewel]

Do you have to get hit by their explosion?

[umbral pond]

how do you uh
git gud enuf to survive Havoc long enough to get the cool Havoc gear

[vocal nacelle]

play current event on auric, thats pretty much havoc minus the debuff

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/john-roblox-laugh-burst-out-laughing-lol-laughing-gif-1680957198344187785

[umbral pond]

good to know
a level 3 Zealot with nothing but a combat axe and combat shotgun can Not defeat a dozen Ogryns

[keen flume]

Level 3 zealot is insane

[inland lichen]

What's this event modifier do?

[keen flume]

Massive increase of ogryn enemy spawns, burster waves
Grenade replenishment on elite kills and ogryns drop explosive grenades on their death

[inland lichen]

Why must they insist on making everything explode

I'm guessing krak vets are having a field day then

[keen flume]

Krak, RPG, impact and frag bomb users rising up

[inland lichen]

Can impacts even onehit ogryns?

[keen flume]

It might be able to one tap reapers at least with enough damage buffs on

[strange thunder]

full breakdown

and the grenade drop is only on bulwarks

[keen flume]

I honestly never thought that the ragers and maulers being replaced lmao

Just having too much fun crunching ogryns

[strange thunder]

you notice it on places where there's fixed spawns, like after the first blackout part of warren where you blow up a hole to run down to the final mid event place

there's always some elite next to 2 or 3 commons

but they're never ogryns, but on the event they are

[umbral pond]

are the trappers actually female? Can't quite tell

[strange thunder]

yes

[keen flume]

How can you not tell by the female giggles

[gusty whale]

"HELLO MY PRETTIES"

[umbral pond]

Mix of the voice effects, me attributing it to Chaos madness, and not wanting to assume the gender of the pixels

[balmy moat]

"A Trapper! Kill her!" - loner psyker

probably others but ye

[dense tulip]

"Little girl with big net!" -Bully iirc

I think there are some voicelines that address trapper as male, but they're extremely rare

[random harbor]

Hey guys, New to the server. Don’t mean to join and immediately start asking for shit (I always feel bad about it) but I wanted to ask help with a penance. Playing zealot and need someone to join my strike team so I can set up a private mission for the Just a flesh wound penance.

[balmy moat]

gotchu

[random harbor]

Hell yea

(my friend code is 3243099669)

[fresh ocean]

so im doing hosting in havoc to level up my rank but what do i do if the mission i have is borderline stupid

anyway to like reroll?

rank 21 gas and ritual like come on

[balmy moat]

you can manually derank one if you really dont want to try, or do someone elses havoc the same rank as yours or higher to go up

[fresh ocean]

man i have 0 idea how im suppose to level

hosting just leads to subpar teammates and then trying to join something at your level or higher is rejected

[balmy moat]

lfg channels here, usually

and ye its a struggle

[fresh ocean]

are people here more locked in or something?

[normal flame]

been playing the event on auric. in about 5 games we havent gotten past the first stage

[vocal nacelle]

you need krak vet/ pickaxe + nuke ogryn / hivescum + rocket

[normal flame]

the packs of bursters are whats getting me. feels like there shouldnet be more than 1 in one place ever

[little coyote]

https://imgur.com/bkZ1IMx

all glory to burster packs

[vocal nacelle]

be ogryn and eat 6 poxburster in a row

[normal flame]

feel like im losing my edge in this game, struggling with basic trash, not sure why im taking damage

[faint perch]

What are you playing as?
(I don't have any advice, I'm just curious)

[normal flame]

my usual veteran build i do pretty well with and can generally feel like i can avoid damage and deal with every mob

idk if its this event with all these extra nearly undodgable explosions throwing me off or what

[little coyote]

the event is surely more difficult than the normal game mode but not impossibly so

My auric event runs so far have been all in the same scheme where I go in with 3 randoms of which two will go down and disconnect in the first encounter and some others will take their place until the end of the run

[normal flame]

if i had my way id get rid of poxbursters and being knocked off the map, two most goofy and punishing things in the game that end runs very unsatisfyingly

[little coyote]

eh it's part of the charm

it's like wanting to get rid of chargers in L4D because they can charge you off the map

[normal flame]

yeah the circus isnt fun if you win every time

its not too bad since i feel they put those kinds of things at the start and end tends to be easier so if you get knocked off the map 1 minute in you can just restart