gameplay-help

[tame anchor]

voidblast dumpstat is warp resistance?

[balmy moat]

yup

voidSTRIKE dump is blast radius, surge surge specific EK dump is charge rate, all else is warp res

[tame anchor]

been actually enjoying just running crit rifle on psyker

with scryer, the crit chain is just nuts

[lavish cloud]

pickaxe or power maul for rumbler build with lucky bullet?

i feel like power maul barely does any damage besides its special attack, but i never used pickaxe and i heard it’s more consistent

[left phoenix]

Does anyone know why my fps tanks after i play a mission?

And why i just can't seem to keep 60 fps?

[proper ridge]

is that really needed? I thought it was better to have one dump stat mobility / defense

Ill try to do this in future, is it noticeably more costly or just a bit?

[faint perch]

I don't know the reason, but perhaps this might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1povgnc/performance_a_collection_of_methods_to/?share_id=3L-Qbql31u3sBK8PLPEiR&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=13

[left phoenix]

i did all and it helped but after a mission my fps always gets jumpy

it's tiring having to open and close the game just to get a smooth run

[balmy moat]

not needed, but just a fun thing you may want to have on hand later on for when youre in the goofball stage

[balmy moat]

as for this, its hard to say without directly doing it again, but it wasnt HUGE amounts, but when you're starting out, saving what you can when you can can help, so its there for you

[narrow creek]

hey i know that enemy health and dmg changes in havoc but is this true for the 5 base difficulties as well?

[balmy moat]

crusher hp

[narrow creek]

where is this chart from?

[balmy moat]

i dont have an exact link, @rare vessel probably does, to the steam guide i presume

i stole it from six

[clear plume]

havoc steam guide made by combine

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903&searchtext=havoc

[narrow creek]

thx!! i should’ve looked at the steam guides beforehand, but ive been meaning to find something like this

[clear plume]

Kuli and combine are great sources

[rare vessel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

Kuli in this case

[clear plume]

Ahh it was enemy scaling chart

Not the combine one

[rain oyster]

Anyone knows which mods causing fps issues coz i have issue with mods and smooth game without mods thx in advance

Dont know which one speceficly causing issues

[languid jewel]

Neither rumbler builds are for the streets.

Dont use that trash.

[void forge]

Drop your mod list

But I know scoreboard/powerdi can cause some performance issues, as well as weapon customization

For powerdi I would recommend turning off the autosave feature

[rain oyster]

I will when im home

[rain oyster]

these are all

im trying to remove a few to see if it helps

tho a general idea of what might cause issue would help

[void forge]

Try disabling scoreboard first, I've heard from a few people that it has impacted their performance

[pastel depot]

I completed everything on release, heard there's many changes since then

anything I should know?

is plasma canon and powesword still meta for veteran?

[vocal nacelle]

change psword to duelling

[keen flume]

[short light]

Is havoc completely broken? 3 aborted mission crashes in 30 minutes with different teams

[dapper shard]

Was a Psyker involved in any of the teams you had?

Somebody did report that Brain Rupture/its auto-proc upgrade is causing crashes when BR damages mobs with Cranial Corruption mod.

[short light]

Yeah

[dapper shard]

Could also be a combo of Cranial/Final toll

[short light]

could be

both were final toll now you mention it

[dapper shard]

Either way, something is karked indeed

[short light]

Yeah, it's barely unplayable

It's weird because there's no patch or hotfix

[rain oyster]

ok thx

[short light]

Unplayable

Different map, no psyker

Final toll tho

[marble pecan]

now double it and give to another person

[stoic locust]

Power sword is better

In nearly every way

[lost smelt]

For the auric storm survivor penance, you can just leave mission as soon as it starts to go south to not break the streak?

[balmy moat]

i believe they fixed it so it actually counts you as dead if youre down when you quit/altF4, but people still have that bad habit

hell, if youre down and you actually crash, if you come back you'll be dead

[strange thunder]

ye that's most of my crashes

lua memory

[balmy moat]

its been so bad i've learned what it looks like when someone is actively crashing (ie, they crashed, but their character is still in the match) so i can try to defend them if able

much easier with friends i play with often than strangers, since i know whats not normal movement for them

[arctic epoch]

Is Legendary the highest rarity? What do you look for once you get to that? Just the higher stats?

[rotund ermine]

Yeah the Stats.

Rarity doesnt matter just go for the stats on the weapon you use

[arctic epoch]

Okay, thanks

[rotund ermine]

NP
🫡

[royal forge]

this look familiar to anyone? ;.;

"GUID: 43570083-dc73-4b4f-8eab-22fd50c2e381
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: scripts/foundation/managers/package/package_manager.lua:502: Trying to unload resource #ID[63bb2c7a7376e6d0].#ID[a8193123526fad64] that's used elsewhere by the engine, refcount: 2

[balmy moat]

did you crash when someone else left the game?

[royal forge]

idk if someone else left. I just straight up crashed. was in a super thick wave, like hundreds of enemies on screens and ogryns were spamming explosives

[marble pecan]

2 havocs ended 70% halfway with this

1 host/player seems to be "cursed" to disconnect the whole lobby

[clear plume]

what modifiers on both of the havoc runs

[marble pecan]

uhhhhh, definitely different ones, we deranked after first one so they changed

[clear plume]

was there either final toll or parasite on either of them?

[marble pecan]

parasite yes

[clear plume]

parasite and possibly final toll has been crashing havoc recently

some interaction with parasite is causing a havoc crash

[marble pecan]

i'm very surprised because it's the first time i see error 2014

it seems that almost every assignment that player gets will crash his games in this way

idk what solution there is

[clear plume]

don't play havoc until the source of the crash is found

[marble pecan]

final toll, cranial corruption and emperors fading light

on 2nd havoc

[fickle ether]

I know brain burst has been linked to those crashes not sure what else will tho

[marble pecan]

no psykers in that team

[clear plume]

its not psyker relatead, its the havoc modifiers

[fickle ether]

I would assume it's something to due with the insta death the head pop does fucks with how toll works but idk

[marble pecan]

legit i played 40+ havocs+ this is the only time i've had two error 2014 crashes in a row

and it was with this player

[clear plume]

to my knowledge its if final toll would trigger then the parasite is exploded

but this might not be accurate and is just going off current information I have

[marble pecan]

his character has to be bugged or something

[clear plume]

its not the player

[marble pecan]

but it was two different havocs with dif modifiers

and he played more havocs with dif modifiers beforehand yesterday with same issues

barely playable

[proper ridge]

I saw a newer map where like you are in a train for just a little bit of time on a transition, going up to a huge tower. Whats the name of the map?

[fickle ether]

Clandestium Gloriana?

[keen flume]

Glorianna
The snowy map

[balmy moat]

"newer"

isnt gloriana one of the older ones?

like i agree its probably gloriana

but im confused at "newer"

[stoic locust]

Carnival->gloriana->rolling steel->no mans land

[strange thunder]

dark communion was after gloriana right?

[stoic locust]

Oh right

Forgot that existed

I think dc was after rolling steel

[balmy moat]

and dc was like, 2024 halloween, no?

or around then?

[strange thunder]

it was with grim protocols which was december?

or ig the dev blogs might've come after

[balmy moat]

still over a year ago

[rotund ermine]

before

IIIRC Gloriana mission was skulls

Then dark communion is christmas

[fickle ether]

Dark communion came with havoc

[fresh bramble]

whats hestias blessing? theres a couple items to unlock that says that\

[strange thunder]

penance point rewards

those that you get every 100 penance points earned across all classes

[fresh bramble]

oh lol ik what that is just didnt know the name

[mild snow]

Is there anyway to reorganize character order?

[strange thunder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/75

[mild snow]

OH THANK GOD!

[short light]

So I see Havoc is still unplayable and the reason behind the crashes are uncertain

[strange thunder]

I hear it's most likely cranial corruption

[vocal nacelle]

cranial + final toll

[little coyote]

my favourite combo

seems the servers are proper fucked today

[paper zenith]

Is it possible to reliably 3-tap a crusher with psword? Somebody was talking about it yesterday, so I tested it in the meat grinder on Auric difficulty. I’m stacked with carapace blessings, WS, and just about all the melee damage buffs available. Most of the time it took 5-6 charged light attacks to kill, at ~1060 crit dmg per hit. Occasionally I got higher crit rolls for around 2k, and rare weak spots for more, but not enough to count on. Am I missing something or should I lower my expectations?

[keen flume]

Not entirely sure about it since the scabs health buffs but I think you are still able to 2-3 tap crushers with the PS with the right vet build

[strange thunder]

isn't it PA in to light light or something

[keen flume]

I forgot if it was the mk6 that does push attack stab

[smoky ember]

yeah

PA light light on mk6

but like gears said, that was with old crusher healthj

so idk !

[strange thunder]

would focus target still hit it with 3 attacks

[remote needle]

loving thammer shroudfield zealot but I know stealthing can inconvenience teammates - can i mitigate this or is this just the trade off for stealh bonks

[vocal nacelle]

just dont stealth while crusher locking overhead at you

[remote needle]

gotcha

i like bonking them head on

like I am the crusher now

[strange thunder]

you can also stealth with a faster weapon

[paper zenith]

WS gives a bigger damage buff

[paper zenith]

I’m not sure what the push attack is for apart from stagger

[strange thunder]

doesn't it have a high finesse mutliplier

[smoky ember]

mk6 PA has very good single target damage

when empowered*

[keen flume]

push attack has single target stab that deals lot of damage

it is really useful for weakspot hits

[smoky ember]

you may be confused, PA is when you continue holding the attack button after pushing

[lost smelt]

What is it with people and the "im going to stand out in the open and just fight for no reason and waste time" tactic? Am I missing something becuase to me that just seems like a huge waste of time and resources compared to pushing forward into a better defensive position and from there fight

[inner sinew]

Some people might clear a larger cluster of enemies simply so it doesn't bother the group as they progress

Specially s cluster of specialists or elites

[paper zenith]

I need to work on it, then. I spent a lot of time yesterday practicing that chain and there were very few stabs🤣

[smoky ember]

the push attack is a stab, which then goes into an overhead light

[rapid locust]

Sorry idk if this is somewhere in a channel but does anyone know if there’s a good resource for learning the spawn points and fallback points for each map?

My biggest question is for the spawns so you know when to stop and wait for the rescue timer

[balmy moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2iAXHR58KU

its an old mod, but far as im aware still works

load it up in soloplay for ease of analysis

[rapid locust]

this is awesome, thank you a ton

[rapid locust]

I definitely will

[fickle ether]

This also is on nexus now if you dont trust the github for whatever reason https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/687

[modest marten]

is it just me ir is the plaerbase just getting worse recently? ive played 5 quickmatches now and on everyone of them was a latejoin where i allready i had 80% corruption like 10% in of the mission

[clear plume]

good players are in havoc or arent playing rn with how buggy/power crept the game is rn

[modest marten]

i can feel how buggy it is yeah

i feel like a heavy tipping point was the release of the hive scum class

since then i felt a high decline if actual teamplay in missions

not to blame hive scum for it surely a crazy coincidence

[balmy moat]

adding a character with melee immunity, range immunity, and corruption immunity was definitely a choice fatshark made

[fresh bramble]

fast/best way to get gold? lol just spent like 300k sacrificing weapons lol

[vocal nacelle]

Auric mission if you can win

[polar forum]

spam auric trench / train mission

[rotund ermine]

Did anyone give a suggestion where Mazosi becomes a gameplay mechanic via Airstrikes?

I was thinking for a level for spectacle we have a check point system where we go to different moebian outposts and we can "guide" mazosi on which area to bomb

[fresh bramble]

Are mods allowed ?

[vocal nacelle]

this is moebian 53rd expertise

[vocal nacelle]

yes, most mod are client side only affect you

[fresh bramble]

Thank you

[languid jewel]

Dont do quickplay

[vocal nacelle]

unless you are installing aimbot or something

[languid jewel]

Spawns are usually the doors or fences and stuff if you play one map often enough youll get a hang of where the enemys will spawn from.

[fresh bramble]

No 😭😭I think I just messed up and deleted a file I wasn’t supposed to in the game so I have to redownload it

Cuz I tried starting it after I put the mods in the file and it said “can’t start missing executables”

[little coyote]

you shouldn't be deleting anything when installing mods

[fresh bramble]

Well when I moved the “mod” folder to dark tide everything was there except the mods one lol so I was just deleting the ones I put in there 😭

I’m just not good w files and installing mods lol

[little coyote]

did the error tell you which executable was missing

[fresh bramble]

No

[vocal nacelle]

https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

follow the steps

[fresh bramble]

Yeah I was watching a yt video by a guy named mister e

[little coyote]

oh

[fresh bramble]

It’s just when I downloaded the mod loader and extracted it the file was different

[little coyote]

(That particular video might be ok but) he is quite the notorious misinformation tuber

[fresh bramble]

Oh lovely

Well I only followed it cuz ik nexus

[vocal nacelle]

maybe you paste at wrong folder or something

[fresh bramble]

Probably

Gonna retry when dark tide is done downloading 😭

[vocal nacelle]

if the video got issue then thats very funny

[fresh bramble]

okay so i log into the game and dont have the mod options when i press esc

[vocal nacelle]

whats your mod loader looks like

and did you click the bat file yet

[fresh bramble]

bat file?

i sent you ss in your dms of the mods file

[vocal nacelle]

the one that with "toggle_ darktide_mods"

[languid jewel]

They are quite simply a bit slow up there.

[mild snow]

Is anyone else getting ALOT more D/c now?

Like....Holy crap!

[little coyote]

three games in a row yesterday so we just quit playing

as in the mission was aborted because of an error not just disconnects

[shadow skiff]

Havoc cranial toll or blight toll?

[little coyote]

don't tell me cranial and/or blight is causing server crashes now

but yeah it was cranial + final toll

[fickle ether]

Something something kill a cranial before toll procs it's a ctd

[little coyote]

lovely

so half of my kills

also with Blight + Toll?

[shadow skiff]

Yeah.

If you kill something green without straight oneshotting or avoiding the final toll effect, you risk it exploding while trying to proc the toll effect which like the cranial thing, blep server.

[little coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-mckay-tom-kcd-tom-mckay-kcd-kingdom-come-deliverance-henry-of-skalitz-gif-181997993219534957

Cranial toll is such a nice modifier combo as well (easy)

[shadow skiff]

You just need to be Z rank at aiming for heads.

Beyond failure.

Or pure melee only run.

[little coyote]

as in Cranial is such an non-issue modifier it is almost a free run

[shadow skiff]

Yes, the bug is when a ranged attack triggers the head pop on a target that can proc toll.

[little coyote]

Right, but try telling that to a trigger happy vet

[shadow skiff]

Impossible.

Unless they 100% bodyshots only.

[void forge]

You bodyshot enemies to avoid crashes, I do it because I'm bad. We are not the same

[little coyote]

[shadow skiff]

WDYM? I use controller. Hitting heads hard.

Also flamers can't hit heads, right?

[visual cradle]

Hello friends.
Where is the weakspot of bursters? I cannot tell if it's the red bomb or their head

[strange thunder]

their heads

[visual cradle]

(Also screw bursters spawning in your face)

Thanks friend.

(Not that it matters I cannot hit either)

[strange thunder]

practice with zealot's knives

[visual cradle]

Not a shouty player. (Veteran).
Jokes aside, I just have a problem with them when they spawn weirdly.

[strange thunder]

shoving and dodging back saves you most of the time

[visual cradle]

Wut? You can shove them? Even on air?

Also thanks for bringing it up, does dodging give you i frames?

Or do you just get out of the way

[strange thunder]

gets out of the way mostly

[shadow skiff]

Out of the way usually.

[visual cradle]

Ah

[strange thunder]

it is i-frames, but I'm bad at knowing how it interacts with aoe

[shadow skiff]

Just watch out for the boom radius... it's massive and will clap you for full damage now even at the edge.

Because FS.

[visual cradle]

Oh yea... the radius is very large (But sometimes blocked by the tiniest obstacles)

Since they are not in the meatgrinder I cannot test them myself

[shadow skiff]

Used to do less if you were at the edge and more at pointblank.

[visual cradle]

They run enders

[shadow skiff]

Now you just get pointblank at all range.

[visual cradle]

Also I wish we could test demonhosts

[strange thunder]

you can with mods

creature spawner

is the name

[vocal nacelle]

shove + dodge back = safe

[visual cradle]

Yea? I only use the collectable mod thing.

To be clear all mods on nexus mods are cool, right? Wont get you banned or something

[strange thunder]

yes

[vocal nacelle]

add dodge slide too if you want to get more distance

[visual cradle]

Ah. Thanks friends

[rotund ermine]

I know but again mostly Mizosi as a gameplay mechanic would be just for pure spectacle where you see scab maulers or crushers bombed instantly

[vocal nacelle]

oh you want airstrike marker i thought you want scripted event

[rotund ermine]

my bad for not being specific again

[short light]

So it's final toll, cranial, green shit or everything at the same time?

I've crashed with rotten too

[vocal nacelle]

maybe hivescum shenanigans

[shadow skiff]

Too many things dying at the same time to chem 'nades can crash the game.

It's so strong, it can kill PCs.

[short light]

Probably everything is broken at the same time 🤣

[frosty charm]

I don't think this was emphasized enough so let me be clear. Dont. Shoot Bursters. As said above, when its already beep-beep-beeping and lunging at you that is when you shove and dodge away (Ogryn needs to dodge+slide often, little'uns can usually get by with just the dodge but slide is just adding more distance = safer). Practice this and you will be safe.

Note that other players, especially in higher difficulty, will run towards the burster to shove it since its the safest way to "diffuse" them - if you shoot a burster at that time you will blow the burster up in your teammate face = very bad. That is why you should never shoot them.

Extra watch-out for Psyker players - warp damage tends to burst bursters very quickly so when there is burster around they should be very carful not to pop a burster in teammate face.

The only time its OK to shoot a burster is when you are 100% sure its not in range of any teammates, you see it somewhere ahead and you can pop it to do some AOE damage, that is OK, but in my experience its not worth it to risk it and I just never shoot them.

[dense tulip]

I'd say that it's worth shooting bursters on quite a few occasions. It really depends on how well you read the room though. And if you have several of them running in quick succession, it's literally mandatory

[visual cradle]

Ok this is very helpful. I see sometimes people rush towards a burster and I was like "dafuq you doing bro" in my mind.

So when you shove them, what happens? Do they get 'difused' or do they blow up safely?

And yea as a vet my priority is to shoot them at long range. But sometimes they spawn in your face

[void forge]

There is a set timer to their explosion once you hear the fast beeping, if you push them during this time they will explode while falling backwards. Once the fuse starts, it can't stop

If they are mid jump, you can still push them you just have to get away fast because the fuse is almost spent

[visual cradle]

Ah. So it's just a way to create distance (Instead of them during the dive coming towards you, they are thrown back and you can slide away)

[dense tulip]

it's one way of thinking about it, yeah

[visual cradle]

Thanks friends. Helpful tip

[frosty charm]

I still shove burster conga lines and hope it kills them all before they kill me 😄

but yes, this would be a good time to consider shooting

[arctic epoch]

Haha, I kind of like challenges to shove things. Like pushing a hound mid air

[fresh bramble]

how do i get better curios?

[shadow skiff]

Get lucky in brunt or gambling at melks.

[fresh bramble]

melks?

[shadow skiff]

The weekly mission guy. You can gamble for random curios there.

[fresh bramble]

ohhh okay

[keen flume]

Alternatively you can check Brunt armoury hourly rotation to see the curios

[fresh bramble]

Thanks

[blazing oasis]

Is there a way to relocate the "Buff Bar", dont see an option on Custom HUD, unless theyre just attached to the player portrait?

[balmy moat]

custom hud if you want to move the full bar, get Better Buff Management if you want specific things moved

[balmy moat]

the main bar is this one, (image one), and BBM bar will be on top of it at first when you make a preset

i personally suggest BBM if you want it near your crosshair to avoid things like coherency aura / constantly available buffs from causing more visual clutter

i just put the ones i actually want to keep an eye on near the crosshair

[vast fog]

I think I got the blessings down, but hwhat are the best perks for Inferno Staff?

[vocal nacelle]

flak/carapace/unyielding choose any

[crimson bridge]

I ran an auric maelstrom mission and completed it without dying, but for some reason, I see this in my penances. I started the mission from the beginning, didnt join in progress

[void forge]

You're certain it was a maelstrom and not a normal auric mission?

[balmy moat]

if it was quickplay for example, it 100% was not a maelstrom, because QP cannot drop you into maels

[signal mantle]

I find carapace very difficult to justify, unlike on other weapons it literally only affects crushers

[vocal nacelle]

I also put penetrating flame, too many crusher on havoc might as well put that

[balmy moat]

flak, then crit chance or unyielding.

as for dealing with carapace, thats what the deimos is for

like so

[outer falcon]

Hey is there a way to re order my operator screen? The placements are so random

Arbitrator 30 -> ogryn 2 -> Scum 30 -> Vet 4 -> Zealot 30 -> Psyker 30
It isn’t by level, date of creation, or alphabetical. What is going on?

[void forge]

There is a mod for that

If you are on console, get boned

[balmy moat]

i dont even know why its ordered the way it is

[rain compass]

Hi gang, I'm trying to do this penance Flawless Execution, and I see that missions that I complete as Zelot are not counted towards it, why is that?

They counted to Doomseeker tho. Also I cannot place a screenshot here 😭

[vocal nacelle]

joining mid mission doesnt count

[balmy moat]

are you running malice or higher?

[void forge]

iirc it shows your best streak, not necessarily your current streak

Could be wrong, I completed that penance years ago

[rain compass]

malice

[balmy moat]

if its actively pinned, itll track it live

[rain compass]

when u track it, it shows current streak

[rain compass]

yeah

[void forge]

Oh pinning wasn't a thing when I did it

[balmy moat]

youre certain that a) youre not going down? and b) are you possibly activating Until Death? if youre not going down, i wonder if theres a bug there with Until Death

being netted and dogged does not count as a down

[void forge]

Is it tracked separately per character?

[balmy moat]

shouldnt be

[void forge]

I know failing on one character seems to reset it for all, but maybe each character also has it's own counter

[balmy moat]

i would test to verify but i've already got it, but i am 99.9% sure its accountwide

[rain compass]

can I somehow disable joining ongoing missions?

[void forge]

Nope, you can get a friend and make private games though

The lfg channels are a good place to ask

[keen flume]

Or be lucky enough that you queue a mission waiting for players to start

[rain compass]

so completing an ongoing mission doesn't count, but dying during an ongoing mission resets progress? cool, cool

[void forge]

Yep

[shadow skiff]

Best to wait and manually pick only very fresh missions.

[rain compass]

thx gang

[coral relic]

is there any gudie for devils claw combos?

[pastel forge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781

[strange thunder]

I got sniped

[pastel forge]

Pog

[pale geode]

What’s the best perks and blessings to put on a Zarona Revolver?

I was gonna do Carapace damage and weak spot damage but idk about Blessings

[clear plume]

You can use this guide to look for weapon setups

But I will say weakspot damage is very misleading

And is a never take, along side crit damage

Because of how it's calculated

If you did 100 base damage then 50 weakspot. Total 150 damage. The 10% weakspot is going to add to the weakspot damage adding 5. So 155 damage

Very very small increase when you can take a flat 25% damage increase to certain armor types

I use maniac/unarmored run&gun/point blank

[shadow flax]

Which class should I pick? I’m newer to these games any advice?

[craggy minnow]

Psyker is the most fragile so its hard to start with
Veteran if you want to shoot a decent amount
Zealot if you love killing people with swords
Ogryn if you like being a big ogre

If you have the dlc arbites is probably the best starter class

[shadow flax]

I’m using gamepass

[craggy minnow]

Really anything but psyker
Ogryn is probably easiest to get started on but you might just not like it

Psyker and the hive scum dlc class are both really powerful but require you to game out a bit to tap into that power

[stoic locust]

Veteran is a sturdy hybrid character

[daring wyvern]

zealot is good because he incentivizes you to melee stuff and not just shoot the whole mission until you get to heresy and then get your shit rocked

[stoic locust]

Zealot is pretty exclusively melee but they have a lot of guard rails and enforce melee so you learn it

[daring wyvern]

which is ime the great filter for my newbie friends who want to try darktide

[stoic locust]

Until Death being mandatory is very good for the learning experience

Fatal mistake every 2 minutes, but you're very aware it happened unlike arby or smth

[craggy minnow]

True playing arby you might just never get good

[shadow flax]

What’s the difference between this and space marine?

[craggy minnow]

Uhhhh

Space marine is a parry simulator musou type game this is like left 4 dead with more swords and hammers

[shadow flax]

Ohh okay,I hope this isn’t hardest than waw on veteran

[craggy minnow]

Like the call of duty game?

Very different

Could be worth watching a gameplay tutorial

[shadow flax]

I’m saying like world at war hard

[craggy minnow]

Idk the last COD i played was mf black ops lol

[shadow flax]

Look up the gernades on the game it was so annoying

[craggy minnow]

WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN MASON

Darktide has difficulty settings ranging from basically a stroll to holy shit dial yourself in

They took out the lowest difficulty because it was so easy it wasnt even fun for new players

I used to use it when i wanted to look at levels because i could basically ignore the enemies lol

[shadow flax]

I love left 4 dead though

[craggy minnow]

That's the closest comparison that isnt by the same dev yeah

This game has more melee focus, ammo is limited enough you want to use melee whenever its suitable

And with some of the more complicated weapons you get very rewarded for learning their quirks

You can always use a simple one though

[shadow flax]

Is it kinda like hell divers?

[balmy moat]

im a little confused at whats being asked

[balmy moat]

if you're curious what the hardest non-havoc gameplay is like, i have this clip, i'm on psyker, and this is an Auric Maelstrom. you can expect to kill 2k-3k enemies in total in such a match as a group, depending on the team, pace, and maelstrom type, where in uprising youll kill about 500-800 in total, and the enemies have smaller health pools as the difficulty decreases, and they deal less damage as the difficulty decreases as well.

[shadow flax]

Are servers very active or dead?

[balmy moat]

how do you mean

ah

depends where you are, i hear apac is very stagnant but otherwise good

[shadow flax]

US

[balmy moat]

us very alive

especially east

east is the bridge between the americas and EU folk

[gleaming lantern]

Hey gang, anyone willing to party up to help me get psyker monstrosity brain burst penance done? Happy to return the favor

[balmy moat]

i can assist

cant do comms though, hanging out with a friend in a call

[shadow flax]

Do you get customize your character at all?

[woven pivot]

is the dueling sword really good, but boring? The only downsides I keep seeing is that it is boring.

[balmy moat]

yes

[balmy moat]

it is a bit boring, yeah, as for good, it depends on build/class but same idea

[shadow flax]

That’s so cool!

[woven pivot]

Veteran? I've got a stat dumped helbore lasgun for havoc, but I need a good melee weapon

[balmy moat]

DS is a good pick on vet, power sword also good

[shadow flax]

What chat would I use to find people to play with?

[balmy moat]

i use taxe on my vet but i also play my vet so very little

[balmy moat]

LFGs mainly ( #vox-lfg-lexicanum ) , or ingame theres auto squadfill system for general missions

[woven pivot]

Thank you Hexis!

[shadow flax]

Thank you!

[shadow flax]

Is there a sniper class?

[faint perch]

You can build your veteran to function like a sniper. Especially with a mod that affects zoom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv9aRrDIlfw

[proper ridge]

When's the last time this was offered?

[polar forum]

few months ago i think

[proper ridge]

whats the rotation look like for these outfits? Like every two weeks its random or on some cycle?

[polar forum]

every two weeks yeah

except for arbi and HIV that never get new cosmetics

[keen flume]

Arbites release

June 23 last year

[balmy moat]

yeah you can make your vet act like a sniper, but theres not much use for long range sniping exclusively

the maps are generally not big enough / open enough for such

[keen flume]

Psyker is the sniper class smh

[balmy moat]

unironically yeah

especially with 3 of our staves' primary fire, pinpoint accuracy

[finite adder]

Dumb crafting/item question:

I found a weapon around trust level 25 or so that was a godroll, perfect stat alignment according to what I'm going for.

However, i still found it at level 25. If I go through all the trouble of upgrading it, consecrating it, etc, would it still be weaker than a weapon I bought at trust level 30?

I'm not sure if there would be a difference in base damage or if it would be like curios where level doesn't matter.

[dawn oracle]

There would not be a difference. After all, every weapon, regardless of the level you bought it at, will upgrade to a certain level (500). It depends mostly on your weapon’s stats.

And considering what you have is a godroll (according to your needs/wants) it would be wise to stick to it.

[finite adder]

My goofy ahh forgot about empowerment lol. Thanks for the clarification. I was worried for a second I was throwing mats into a pit.

I'll continue upgrading it to 500 then.

[dawn oracle]

Ah no worries, friend. Good luck with the leveling and upgrade grind.

[finite adder]

Curio casino is the next step for me lmao

(and a more optimal stat spread for my needle gun)

[dawn oracle]

Ah yes, those are tough. I was blessed enough to find a 17 toughness curio for my hive scum in Brunt’s armory once.

I’m about a 120 hours in and that was my first ever 17 toughness.

[finite adder]

Followup question: rolled a curio that was 20% max hp. Is the blessing static or would it increase to its highest (21%) with enough upgrading?

Honestly I'll probably roll with it no matter what, it's still a high roll and I don't think I need to skimp out for the best ever possible roll.

[dawn oracle]

It is frustratingly static. You can’t empower them or make their stats increase. You need to wait to find what you need.

[finite adder]

Eh, I'll just keep an eye out for a +21% curio whenever and swap it out then.

[crimson bridge]

idk why, but sometimes randomly when i try to sprint+crouch to slide, it just does a really slow slide

its not often

like one in every 1000 slides will be like this

but anytime it happens, it basically guarantees that I die

and its usually in really chaotic moments

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390479223413800960/1461567062697709599/crouch_instead_of_sliding.mp4?ex=696b05e6&is=6969b466&hm=fbbeb0c5775e6a2c0676e10c1783e27e0832b9d39e1722caa9cd70482ea33c5e&

I was going to slide out of the pox grenade but it instead just crouched and went super slow, making me get hit and die

[clear plume]

From what I can see is you didnt have the momentum to do a slide

either from not sprinting, the dog pushed you, or the rodin mines stunned you

[crimson bridge]

yea, im thinking I tried to crouch too soon after dodging and shooting. Didnt sprint for long enough

[clear plume]

there is also a small divit in the floor though

nevermind it doesnt seen you were on it

[arctic sinew]

I live in an eternal struggle of wanting to charge forwards no brakes and go on a melee spree and wanting to try and play support

anybody got a build recommendation for one of those two (I imagine both in one build would not work)

I have been wondering if there's a build that allows for some charging forward and then falling back to your group, I imagine it'd be melee scum or some form of zealot?

[dawn oracle]

Melee scum does fit this description well, and so does FotF zealot.

If you really think about it, going on a melee spree is a form of support, as you’re basically helping to clear the way for your teammates.

[crimson bridge]

support zealot is actually perfect for that. your ult staggers enemies and grants gold toughness for your whole team

and you charge ahead with your knife to go kill specials and also to proc as many crits as possible to reduce your ult cooldown

so you are just meleeing things constantly until you can ult again

[vocal nacelle]

bullrush ogryn

[balmy moat]

melee/gun psyker, possibly a bubbleknight if you want to offer toughness regen/bulletproof bubble/visible waypoint on where to move next

[arctic sinew]

I thought the knife wasn't really worth using on zealot anymore?

[balmy moat]

its not really

its still fun

[arctic sinew]

I love the speed of it but it feels so weak

[balmy moat]

dueling sword is the go to now for a mobility + damage weapon on most

knife is pure mobility

[crimson bridge]

the build I use basically runs knife with bleeding effects to increase crit chance

and getting crits reduces cooldown on ult

so you arent really the primary dps on the team, but you basically take out some priority targets and buff the team with 10% crit aura and chorus for support

[strange thunder]

or you can go fatmangus zealot

infinitely more enjoyable than book duty

[hallow flicker]

Daggers are still the king of stacking bleed and has faster crit ramp up than dueling sword or tact-axe, due to having extreme mobility and spammable lights. It also can apply 4 stacks of bleed on non-weakspot hit, which immediately allows you to fuel your crit engine for Zealot.

Tact-Axe has Crit Bonus and it dispatches flak or lower extremely well. Just has much slower speed.

Then Dueling Sword is the middle ground - generalist, good at everything but a master at none - even if Zealot prefers other weapons with Martyrdom, Dueling Sword isn't a bad staple for crit gaming.

[hallow flicker]

T'Hammer Zealot is a different breed but they are fun too. S'also nice to book duty with 100% ability regen as long as you are hitting something, there's the fun of 'Ya not dying today'

[strange thunder]

I don't think I could do book thammer, that's too passive for my taste

[hallow flicker]

Thammer is not for book yeh

Thammer is a 'fuck you in particular' weapon, and it doesn't provide synergy towards your gameplay. Instead it gets synergy FROM your talents and abilities, and that's good.

[strange thunder]

anyway, if you were interested in a support zealot that isn't book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82EpvAqXth0

[hallow flicker]

Fatzealot.

Is that the shroud dr one

[strange thunder]

and that's h40 stats

ye

~352 on auric

I think I've been downed once with that build

[hallow flicker]

That shit is bonkers and I love it.

[strange thunder]

in like 30+ games

[hallow flicker]

'How do you stealth as a Zealot'
'I specced into strength based stealth'

[strange thunder]

you can still hit some p sweet breakpoints on shroud backstabs

I managed to oneshot a burgle once

[crimson bridge]

is it common for players to DC at 12:00am pst?

[balmy moat]

not that im aware of

[crimson bridge]

just failed an auric run because myself and another player DC right at 12:00

reconnected to the team getting wiped by like half a dozen snipers, bombers, and a boss 🙁

[balmy moat]

oof

my only guesses are it was some form of restart, its also possible one of you DCing caused the other to crash, its also possible it was entirely coincidental it was right at the 00

[nocturne sequoia]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0d94903-9630-42b3-8d8d-c02cb60ba439/hav40-slaaneshi-tweaker-marine?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

looking for tips to optimize my fuckass bolt pistol scum feel free to DM

[crimson bridge]

im thinking either of us are on similar networks and both of us have some sort of network refresh/restart at 12:00, or something server side that happens

[balmy moat]

is it a consistent issue for you both or is this potentially a one-off?

or, if you dont know the other person, consistent for you?

[crimson bridge]

im not sure about the other person, was quickplay. For me, its happened multiple times. During christmas break it happened at my parents house. I thought it was just their network

but its happened at my place now too

ill have to check to see if it happens consistently here also

[balmy moat]

set an alarm for 5 minutes to midnight for tonight/tomorrow if you'll be around, make sure youre in a match when it ticks midnight, see if its consistent

if it IS consistent, then you'll probably just have to keep a repeating alarm to alert you you'll DC soon, then you can plan accordingly, like warning your team if need be, hitting altF4 in a safe area so your character doesnt go down during the DC process, then reconnect after midnight, such like so

until a better method is found anyway

[crimson bridge]

Heres a video of it from tonight. Ill check tomorrow if it happens again. It could also be a weekly thing if not daily at exactly the same time

[balmy moat]

oof

[crimson bridge]

oh oops, i thought i clipped a shorter video, it exported the full clip

[frozen ore]

Is there a reason why my 1 blessing point for Shredder Autopistol keeps resetting?

No matter what I choose, it'll keep resetting as if I never selected the blessing I chose.

[vocal nacelle]

bug

will be fixed next patch (maybe)

[pastel forge]

(Possibly)

[granite night]

what up

[wispy bronze]

I've tried to google the answer but can't get a clear grip on it.

If I have a mastery level 20 weapon, can I still use it to level other weapons?
Or should I swap off it to get exp on other weapons?

[craggy minnow]

It won't give you mission xp for other weapons no, but you can use gear rewards and resources to level them at hadron without using them

If you want to max them all asap only play with unmaxed mastery weapons though

[wispy bronze]

thanks!

[thorny fog]

Hi, how's it going? I'm looking for friends to help me get the "Flawless Execution" trophy, which involves repeating the train mission 10 times without dying.

[undone harbor]

Can i get one to help me with the private match penance for the zealot pls? : )

[rotund ermine]

play on the easiest difficulty

[balmy moat]

gotta be malice but yeah

[thorny fog]

The problem isn't me, it's the teammates who enjoy committing suicide and ruining the run

[stoic locust]

Flawless is don't go down right

[balmy moat]

yeah

[stoic locust]

If so just run fat zealot

True immortality

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0b64369-8482-498e-be0f-e8d7a0a88531/fatmangus-zealot

Probably drop beacon for something else but this makes you more or less immortal

[proper ridge]

how long does the different cosmetics last on store? Like 1-2 weeks?

[vocal nacelle]

Rotation per 2 weeks

But there's 3 tabs so you have more time

[undone harbor]

Anyone willing to help me out with the flesh wound penance for the zealot? It can only be done in a private match and i have no friends that play this, just need one pls 🙂

[balmy moat]

i can help

[undone harbor]

Yaay

[balmy moat]

i can do eu or NA east, na west is possible but will be a struggle

send me a squad request and we'll talk it out

[undone harbor]

Ngl i am in Japan so we shall see what happens lmao

[balmy moat]

we shall see

[undone harbor]

whats your code?

[balmy moat]

its in my nickname

2515962711

[crimson stone]

Whats the best way to get plasteel and diamantine?

[polar forum]

quick play the highest difficulty level you win consistently

or have a friend carry you through high havoc

[vocal nacelle]

Havoc 16 is decent enough for new ish player

[crimson stone]

thanks. I figured that would be the answer. I was hoping for sneaky way to get a bunch.

[faint perch]

Did you end up completing the penance? If not I can help in like an hour or tomorrow. I'm also in Japan

[undone harbor]

I got it done but thank you for asking

[pure marsh]

whats the best way to level up weaPONS JUST RUNNING MISSIONS?

mb hit caps

[shadow skiff]

Burn dockets and plasteel otherwise.

[void forge]

buying, upgrading to green, then sacrificing would be the fastest way to level stuff. It costs plasteel and ordos though

[rotund ermine]

Buy the same weapon and upgrade them multiple times and sacrifice them to hadron

[void forge]

consecrating past green does not give more weapon mastery. empowering does, but its not really worth the time and materials

[balmy moat]

to green only

[strange thunder]

you also want to be at level 30 or above, so the grey weapons you buy have a higher starting rating

[quaint jacinth]

does the extra xp gain perk on curio also apply to the xp you get for your weapon mastery from missions?

[strange thunder]

no

so best to switch off of those after you hit 30

[onyx gale]

Hi all. How does stamina affect attack speed exactly?

[vocal nacelle]

doesnt affect attack speed

but you sprint faster if you have stamina

[balmy moat]

it only affects sprinting, blocking, and pushing

[rotund ermine]

one last double check and might give feedbacks or Suggestion:

Mazosi be used as a Gameplay mechanics where we mark targets in "Checkpoints" or objectives to bomb people and the gimmick is just spectacle for a new mission

Mazosi bomb this location in this 1st location and every scab blown up

[hazy crag]

what difficulty is this tuned for? I have not played much invis

[onyx gale]

Sorry, my question was incomplete and on the wrong sub

[dense tulip]

like how it happens in the ending of Enclavum Baross, but actually affecting the gameplay?

[rotund ermine]

yeah

Again just spectacle, it can be fixed “locations” to mark targets

[craggy minnow]

they could basically make the scanning minigame long range and call it a target marker then have it trigger a scripted airstrike

[rotund ermine]

just the illusion of free choice and pretty colors of the explosions situation

[craggy minnow]

gotta blow up the 4 mcguffins in the final arena go scan them up

[rotund ermine]

thats actually interesting

[craggy minnow]

having the mechanic be needing to take some time to call masozi to clear obstacles meshes better with the gameplay than her fighting any enemies i think

[dense tulip]

I can kinda see a mission segment where there is an unreachable part of the level where ranged enemies spawn constantly, and we need to occasionally call in Masozi to bomb them, stopping the respawing for a while, completing the event in the process

[craggy minnow]

kinda like doing the carnival doors i guess

its been forever since i qped into that mission huh

[dense tulip]

sort of, yeah, but you can't camp them

[rotund ermine]

yeah like cod

[dense tulip]

maybe those ranged enemies could be increasing in power as time goes on, starting from regular shooters and moving up to gunners, reset on airstrike

[rotund ermine]

Yeah

thanks for the ideas

[frozen gull]

I got a question about curios, im having trouble getting the ones i need that are above 400 IE, i get stamina/health ones when i need wounds/toughness and when i get wounds/toughness curios theyre 380-390 not 400+, would it be better for me to use materials to refine/entreat 380-390 curios and run them until i can get 400+ or use the ones that are 400+ and keep trying to get the ones i need? 🤔 been a thought the last few days, i have 4 characters lvl 30 and weapons are already maxxed/near maxxed but havent gotten curios done yet, thanks.

[balmy moat]

the stat on curios matters absolutely 0, except on stamina, where 410 is +3 and 400 says +3 but is lying and is +2 in reality

the main thing is the percentage on hp or toughness, which isnt necessarily power level based

with 21% hp being max and 17% toughness being max

[frozen gull]

I know about that bug already just not really sure how to go about curios, i do the melk quests and have put the % chance for curios on the ones i have now as well as check peddler shop, highest % ive got for toughness and health has been 20 and 16% cant quite get the highest numbers on any of them

[balmy moat]

and, wound curios are only good on a martyrdom zealot, dont waste your currency upgrading several wound curios

20 and 16 are functional

[frozen gull]

Yeh i have scum, psyker, zealot and veteran, wounds only for martyr zealot

[balmy moat]

the difference is relatively minimal

[pastel depot]

is this story mode?

[balmy moat]

yes

[pastel depot]

so to progress to harder difficulties I just play heresy missions?

[balmy moat]

yes

any missions on that difficulty

if you win, it goes up, if you lose, it goes down

[pastel depot]

and this is the best way to get money? I need to upgrade a good gun I have but need ordos

[balmy moat]

you can also squad with people a higher difficulty than you yourself can access

[balmy moat]

aurics are very good ordo

[frozen gull]

My only question then is do i spend the materials to upgrade blue/purple curios to transcendent or get transcendent ones to re-bless?

[pastel depot]

can do those?

[balmy moat]

weekly havoc rewards are also good, you'd need to do a maelstrom though

[balmy moat]

if you find someone willing to take you to auric, you can, else just work towards it via previously mentioned level up system

[balmy moat]

if they're almost max stats, just go for it, you will get use out of them

[frozen gull]

Alright, thanks lots

[dim frigate]

this has happened twice in under 30 minutes now

uh

halp

[little coyote]

Apparently Cranial Corruption | Blight Spreads + Final Toll modifiers cause it if the enemy dies and triggers either of those former statuses without going to the Final Toll state

[dim frigate]

it is cranial + final toll

[little coyote]

fix is not to shoot heads

[dim frigate]

that's uh

a little difficult to do for an entire mission against crushers and bulwarks

[little coyote]

melee is fine

[dim frigate]

ah

[little coyote]

because the cranial corruption explosion only triggers on ranged headshots

[dim frigate]

i see

Ohhh

What about KF brain burst?

[little coyote]

that'll also trigger it

[dim frigate]

That might be it lol

[languid oracle]

really dumb question, what is the difference between scabs and dregs, and how do i know which mission has which?

trying to farm dreg melee kills for melk, but i dont know where im supposed to go for those tbh

[keen flume]

Scabs = Traitor 6th/Armoured faction
Dregs = Cultist, unarmoured faction
As far I know both factions will always randomly spawn at whatever mission you queue

[languid oracle]

o7 ty

[keen flume]

Best way to tell is really by their designs, scabs are all fully armored that use laser weapons

As for Dregs barely wear any armor and use normal weapons

[bold vigil]

How do I use any melee weapon that requires heavy strikes for horde clear without getting hit, especially if it only has 2 dodges

[keen flume]

You can also always use the meat grinder to check on all enemies

They always stacked on the respective enemy type

[languid oracle]

meat grinder? that a series of penances i guess?

[bold vigil]

psykanium, the disk with the hologram above it

[keen flume]

Psykanium

the location that has the psyker on the tube

[keen flume]

A little more clear indication between both factions appearance

[languid oracle]

ty that helps a lot

so if they are wearing yellow robes or have a ton of needles sticking out of them, they are dregs, and if they are covered in spiky armor, they are scabs

[keen flume]

Yeah pretty much it

Besides their appearance the factions also have different tactis of how they approach and fight agaisnt players

[fresh bramble]

what does unyielding enemies mean ?

[clear plume]

monsters and unarmored ogryns

[fresh bramble]

ah okay thanks

[clear plume]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743&searchtext=enemy

here if you want to check out how the enemies are armored

example

plague ogryn

[keen flume]

Monsters apply to the ones who naturally spawn too, not including captains and twins

[graceful gorge]

iso 2 handsome strong rejects to help friend and i climb out of havoc 21-25

[rotund ermine]

anyone got this massive bug on Rolling Steel? there are enemies spawn outside the train

[vocal nacelle]

yea i got 2 floating sniper

[rotund ermine]

oh god

[fickle ether]

I had this bug ages ago on refinery delta with a sniper in the skybox that was still actively shooting at us. Wolfer called in a damn ac130 on us

[rotund ermine]

[leaden linden]

iam new to the game need some help playing psyioniker

[vocal nacelle]

What do you want to know

[balmy moat]

sup

[balmy moat]

pinging just in case you're waiting for a notification, lmk what questions you have :D

[leaden linden]

looking for someone to play with

i just playing with 1 friend a.m

[balmy moat]

what region?

[leaden linden]

ON EU

[balmy moat]

my code is in my nickname, send me a squad request and i can tag along

[leaden linden]

steam code?

[balmy moat]

fatshark code

so, menu, social tab, then press E

[leaden linden]

i dont know what that is

[balmy moat]

you could also send me yours

[leaden linden]

strike team 50 chanel

can you join

[lament parrot]

Would anyone be willing to carry a quick malice mission? Been trying to get "on overwatch" but it's an absolute nightmare.

Apparently it can be cheesed by jumping to your death and never getting rescused though.

Happy to help with whatever in return 🍻🤘

[lime idol]

still need help?

[lament parrot]

Yes please if you don't mind? 💪

[lime idol]

send ur FS friend code

[lament parrot]

6687963437

[lament parrot]

Absolute legend, thank you! Never even looked like you were in danger haha that was crazy

[lime idol]

[remote needle]

if you have 2 fast teammats who push ahead and one slow teammate that they're leaving behind is it better to stay with the 2 fast or the 1 slow

[languid oracle]

what is the dump stat on a helbore lasgun? trying to figure it out because there is no mobility stat, but it seems like everything is kind of needed?

maybe charge rate?

or is it stability?

[proper ridge]

Do marks change much on ranged weapons for Zealot / Vet? Or is it just looks

[languid oracle]

sometimes they change the playstyle/where damage is allocated

for example, the helbore lasgun mk v has a slight bit more power in the charge attacks, but the mk iv leans heavily into charge attacks at triple or quadruple the damage for charge attacks vs normal attacks

or for the infantry lasgun, the mk vii has somewhat even stats, but the mk ix has more damage at the cost of ammo and magazine capacity, while the mark iib goes in the opposite direction, losing damage but getting a ton of ammo

basically, the various percentage stats themselves are the same, but the different marks change how some of them scale

[proper ridge]

got it ty

[languid oracle]

personally, i prefer good damage, because it doesnt matter if i get 1.5x the ammo if it takes 2x the shots to kill a basic enemy

although other people might have other opinions on that, and im pretty new myself, im nowhere near the endgame yet

wrong picture or did automod nuke it?

oh, and the highest percent a stat can have is 80%, from what i can tell people usually consider one stat the "dump stat" and try to get something with that at 60% to guarantee the rest are at 80%

[coral orbit]

LFG need help with my Just A Flesh Wound penance for zealot US West 982 366 2501, thanks

[craggy minnow]

This is the case and the dump stat with very rare exceptions is mobility since you get like 95% of the value out of getting it to 60 anyway

[daring wyvern]

stability, you can check the pinned guide in #veteran-class for these kinda qs

[quick spire]

would anyone be willing to do some orthus offensive bell skip runs with me so i can try and get my tis just a flesh wound pennance? i've heard its the best way to do it but i dont have the skip and would appreciate some help :)))

[undone harbor]

Anyone want to run auric malstrum with me?

[gleaming lantern]

I did this on the train mission. It was cake on the min difficulty.

[pallid horizon]

Hey so i was curious about doing the Orthus Offensive puzzle (which i did and received the penance for), we finished the mission and i loaded back into another one to test it out and only one bell is there for the tp and when i hit it, it doesnt teleport me, did i do something wrong?

[quick spire]

yup all good now :))

[pallid horizon]

figured it out nevermind!

[tame anchor]

got the two easiest havoc modifers (rampage+final toll) then followed by rotten armor and final toll

and noped it outa there (H22->H23)

[honest meteor]

what should i be looking at to know if a weapon can go to 500

[proper wraith]

Any weapon /can/ - but most people invest only in "perfect" rolls. Generally every weapon has a dump stat (something you would roll 60 max on, while all the rest would be 80 max).

[honest meteor]

gotcha, thanks, ohana

[queen cloak]

I'm looking for anyone to play with to go through the campaign

[atomic narwhal]

Hello, could someone help me with the penance "Frenzied Killer"?

[teal widget]

Yo, i need a video to send to my friends to help them understand this game

Preferably bite sized and not overwhelimg

[kind flame]

ye still need it?

[kind flame]

lore-wise or mechanically?

[teal widget]

Mechanically

[kind flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exnquZa9jHw

this might do

[teal widget]

One of my friends in particular is stuck in uprising convinced this game is to hard for them

[atomic narwhal]

Hey! Yes

[kind flame]

strike team 40k

[atomic narwhal]

Sorry can't join vc right now

[kind flame]

all good

[kind flame]

still want to do it now?

[atomic narwhal]

Yeah if possible

[kind flame]

kk you know how to join?

[kind flame]

could the video help?

[atomic narwhal]

you mean PF?

[kind flame]

PF?

[atomic narwhal]

Party Finder

[kind flame]

nope social tab, then press e and enter the number next to my name

[atomic narwhal]

omw

[balmy moat]

it might be a case less of, they need a video to understand and more they might need someone to be there to offer advice as it comes up. ie, pushing a burster, blocking, dodging, thats usually what uprising teaches. what level are they?

and, what class?

[teal widget]

We're all arbites together

I'm trying to avoid compeletely carrtying them as well

[balmy moat]

all on console as well or?

[rapid locust]

Yeah frankly sometimes this game isn't for some

I've accepted that some of my friends are hard limited somewhere between heresy and auric

short bite sized you're better off with a reddit guide or something

[teal widget]

I mean gavoc goes beyond the realm of casual, and my friends are very casual players

[rapid locust]

I'm sure someone has posted one highlighting the 360 block, push cones, run dodging etc

[balmy moat]

apparently good youtube guides are in very VERY short supply

[teal widget]

I'm the only one I'm my group pushing past casual, but i still only play casually

[rapid locust]

there are some good ones, but they're longer and more complex in theory

oh I can't post vids here

got insta deleted

[balmy moat]

full group of 4?

[rapid locust]

"Ripthejack3r" on youtube

"Learn This Mechanic To Save Your Runs | Survive Darktide Episode 1. "The Slot System""
"All Hidden Mechanics of Darktides Enemies | Surviving Darktide | Enemies Part 1 Elites"

And I'm sure has more, he's making a mobility mech video soon too

@teal widget

[teal widget]

Usually 3, one of them isn't always on

[balmy moat]

has this friend seen the higher difficulties or doesnt want to move above?

[rapid locust]

Also @ TannerLindberg on youtube has a bunch of guides

[balmy moat]

HAH

[rapid locust]

those are the two I've been using

[balmy moat]

no

[teal widget]

I'm constantly stuck in malice with my one friend that has been playing for at least a few hours, and i want him to push past his mental block with this game

The other doesn't care as long as their having fun beating shiy

[balmy moat]

how i got pulled from malice was auric maelstrom after being handed a functional build

[rapid locust]

what keeps killing them and what class do they play

I have a friend who had a bad build and was terrible at positioning/pacing

those two things fixed it entirely and he can hold his own in damnation now

[teal widget]

Its killing me cause we're level 15 now and he's been stuck on uprising for a long time across several characters

He never goes past it

He'll refuse a build video to

[rapid locust]

what about text guides from darktide lantern?

cause if they refuse even that, it sounds like they don't want to play the game

[balmy moat]

thats not necessarily true

he may want to figure it out on his own

he sounds stubborn

[rapid locust]

being hard against learning and getting good is definitely lol

[teal widget]

He's just bullheaded about learning on his own

[balmy moat]

called it

[rapid locust]

well they'll prob be stuck in that difficulty for a couple 100 hours

especially if they aren't even attempting to theorycraft on their own

my buddy does that with ARPGs but he actually at least works hard to make the build

[balmy moat]

he might be, but if he's struggling with the mechanics, he may be very nervous to try the higher things

if you are available same time i am, and willing to have me, i'd be willing to take a stab

[rapid locust]

I would help them figure out their favorite class, and just have them at least START on a build with the talent they like and then they can adjust from there at the very least

[teal widget]

He's not struggling per se, but he's refusing to see how the mechanics interact and trying to learn

Like after 20h he's only now figuring out how to dodge muties

And that's coming from not liking the dodge

[rapid locust]

just play at the highest avg difficulty and if he keeps dying and wants to get better maybe he'll reflect

[rapid locust]

oof

[teal widget]

Malice is the comfort zone atm

But he's struggling to adapt and learn how to deal with things

[balmy moat]

sounds like tough love is definitely in order

[teal widget]

My other friend is adapting really well and he's aegueably the worst of the 2 screen it comes to these games

He just started 2 days ago

[rapid locust]

^

[balmy moat]

lmk when you're gonna do some rounds and have a slot, i can be the bad guy

[teal widget]

I really could pull out my level 30 characters and make it impossible to play for them

[balmy moat]

i can drag all of you to an auric, and put the fear into them

[teal widget]

Auric meal

[balmy moat]

also possible

[teal widget]

Real fear comes from not having hope

[balmy moat]

but i want you to, yknow, live

it sucks if you lose

but if they do it and we win

thats better

its all fun and games until you get cornered

not always gonna win in this kind of situation ^

if i'd run ANYTHING else we'd have lost

[teal widget]

I can handle auric

I don't have 4 level 30s for nothing

Its my friend I worry about

[balmy moat]

yeah

[teal widget]

He's expecting the game to be a certain way, like payday, when it's a complicated mess

It frustrates me when they're a level 15 arbites that can well handle malice, but refuses to engage the necessary mechanics to even survive

[balmy moat]

does he get actual mad, or does he get frustrated that his idea of how it should work didnt work, if he goes down?

if he at least kinda accepts it in stride, it'll be much easier to work around him going down

plus, i know a lot of the thresholds to pull back to for close respawn, if we're able to reach those points

[teal widget]

Its like "i don't like the dodge" and instead of getting used to it and learning with it, he just refuses to do it, period

Then when he goes down even once or the team struggles, he thinks we aren't ready for the higher difficulty

[balmy moat]

... how well does he take to sass

im very good at "youre supposed to dodge those". usually to tease friends, but, i could modify my tone

(mutants, usually)

i'd have to talk to him i suppose

[teal widget]

He reacts well to positive reinforcement

[balmy moat]

thats very very good

easier to do than be a jerk

[teal widget]

I qatched him dodge a mutie and complimented it

(Said friend is my significant other so i know his limits)

[balmy moat]

ah i see

[teal widget]

You don't wanna sugar coat things with him, but positive reinforcement works best

[bitter flume]

Not sure if this counts as technical or gameplay, but have a buddy who started playing 2 weeks ago on and off, and he has a Veteran level 20, but the Shrine of the Omnissiah hasn't unlocked for him. Any idea on what's going on?

[balmy moat]

campaign

gotta complete #4

( IV )

[bitter flume]

oh the 4th map in the campaign?

[balmy moat]

ye

[bitter flume]

thank you very much

[balmy moat]

[balmy moat]

when-abouts will you likely play? also, region? im invested now

i want to see the fledgling break free

[teal widget]

Its inconsistent

I did manage to get him to play on his own

Just now

Which is a crazy revelation for him

[balmy moat]

:O

IT BEGINS

[teal widget]

He was absolutely refusing to play on his own just before

Just got done explaining that this game isn't as simple as "whack shit" and that learning it on his own isn't going to be instant

[balmy moat]

did you tell him an internet stranger is ready and willing to make him suffer?

[rapid locust]

I've thought about getting spidey sense, I have good hearing but I play on speakers :/

[balmy moat]

its a pain in the ass to set up, its still not set up properly for me

[teal widget]

Not yet

[balmy moat]

long as you have audio tho, it can help pinpoint what direction it comes from

[teal widget]

Getting him to understand that the learning process is super slow is a start

[rapid locust]

yeah my speakers aren't surround so it's usually the behinds that are hard, they sound left or right

just need to get some good earbuds for it

headsets give me headaches sadly

[balmy moat]

i have it set to only show armour, bursters, dogs, and monsters, and its still a bit overwhelming sometimes

well and specials

[rapid locust]

Bursters/dogs/trappers would be what I'd do yeah

[balmy moat]

dogs move too fast for it to really function well

but it helps identify "yes that was a dog sound"

basically, it shows where the sound played from, not where the creature is, nor where the audio has actively moved to until it plays another sound, it seems

[teal widget]

I just listen real hard cause I'm on ps5, and i refuse to turn off music

Still have a hard time hearing trappers when their voice line doesn't play every 5 second

[rapid locust]

ah makes sense

[balmy moat]

it also means, if no audio plays because the system is overloaded, no indicator :D

[rapid locust]

also how do you guys get convict role so you can react lol

[balmy moat]

keep talking more

[rapid locust]

ah okay cool

[balmy moat]

i am fairly sure its related to "messages sent within a specific time frame", and also an antispam filter to only count messages sent every 15 or 30 seconds most likely

so, just have some normal conversations and it'll crack

[teal widget]

I would say that system sucks of i haven't seen other people abuse level bots in the past

[balmy moat]

how is his game going

[teal widget]

His darktide game? Idk I'm at work

[balmy moat]

LOL

fair enough

im so curious

so, he definitely WANTS to play

[teal widget]

I would almost recommend him play ogryn

[balmy moat]

ogryn can be rough, unless he likes playing tank, but even then, you need to still avoid taking damage

unless necessary

[teal widget]

He really loves arbites

[balmy moat]

arby can be unkillable with the right build

[teal widget]

I'm thinking more along his pausing playstyle of not dodging

[balmy moat]

psyker if he has shown interest in space wizardry

[teal widget]

Arby is ridiculoudly easy, too not recommend would be insane

Psyker in my experience is really hard to level

[balmy moat]

its good for surviving, its not ideal for learning, because of aforementioned unkillable-ness

[keen sonnet]

Going from the arby leveling experience to the psyker leveling experience would probably be bad imo

[balmy moat]

this is fair

but he'd learn to dodge

[keen sonnet]

Like at worst it's harder, at best it's boring cause assail spam if you don't want it to be hard

[teal widget]

Depwnds in what you like tbh,i did exactly that

[balmy moat]

i enjoy psyker a lil too much

[teal widget]

I did vet -> arby -> psyker

[keen sonnet]

Yeah? Guy with psyker in their name?

You like psyker?

[balmy moat]

i have decent experience in levelling psyker

[keen sonnet]

Tbf

I've leveled one character of every voice atp

[balmy moat]

14 is almost done

[keen sonnet]

To make sure I really liked the personalities I have

[teal widget]

My psyker is still 27, and i need to finish her so i can stop lying about saying she's 30

[balmy moat]

lol

[teal widget]

Wait, out of context that's wild

[balmy moat]

its psyker

everything out of context is weird

"stroke the sword to get more peril"

"peril edging"

"head popping"

its inevitable

doesnt help savant says things like "a gratifying eruption"

[teal widget]

Love spyker voice lines

[rapid locust]

LOL

I forget which one my psyker is but I love the "For the emporer... I'm sure"

[balmy moat]

loner

[rapid locust]

in a sarcastic tone

yeah love that voice

[teal widget]

Loose Canon with Spyker and ogryn is gold

Get the judge in there for extra measures

[balmy moat]

everyone has golden lines

[teal widget]

My favorite so far is the one between the cadian voice and the ogryn

[balmy moat]

idk if this is my FAVOURITE but its up there

[teal widget]

Zealot: "once you start killing, arbritator, you don't seem to stop"
Arbites: "THE LEX IS THE LEX!"

[teal widget]

Good boy

An ogryns varying level of intelligence never ceases too amuse me

Can't tell which one is actually somewhat smart or just plain stupid

[balmy moat]

definitely a smart one, bodyguard is

anyway, im heading to bed shortly, but if you like, feel free to send me a friend request ingame when you can. i like to think i'm a decent teacher, so if you need/want me i'll be around, but, he's made a big step, not a thing to overlook for sure

[stone halo]

Hello could I please get help with a penance for the Psyker? I need to do brain rupture on a monstrosity in a private match.

[quaint jacinth]

how are those stats possible?
381 total

[pastel forge]

Rounding error

[gleaming lantern]

ask in the correct #vox-lfg-* channel. I'm sure someone can help

[gleaming lantern]

I did this not long ago and found someone fairly quickly

[stone halo]

Thank you 🤙

[crimson stone]

The only way to start Maelstroms are at the center terminal correct? I noticed at the Havoc table you're able to search for a group but not the actual mission. Also, gaining auric difficulty is simply just completing missions at damnationheresy and eventually unlocking it right?

[vocal nacelle]

Havoc mission are different per player, will use the one who start the havoc mission

[wispy gazelle]

Does anyone know if the components of multi-stat buffs like +%strength are increased by the same percentage or is it like a +20%str will confer 10%dmg, 10%cleave, etc.?

[polar forum]

the former

so 20 str = 20 damage/cleave/stagger

[wispy gazelle]

Tyty. It may be the more obvious answer but I never want to assume things with this game.

[polar forum]

good mindset to have

[tame anchor]

when hostng party, where is mission name toggle? keywords?

[vocal nacelle]

There's host your own havoc option so people can see it

[tame anchor]

so when i host my own assignment, it automatically shows it all?

[strange thunder]

yes if you go through the havoc terminal and hit party finder

should auto fill the own havoc option

[balmy moat]

do heresy to unlock damnation, complete damnations to unlock auric

[quaint jacinth]

i know that if you play in a higher havoc mission than your rank then you get more progress but what if you play in a lower one than your rank
do you get any progress at all?

[shadow skiff]

You just don't lose rank on failing. No progress.

[quaint jacinth]

not losing rank is nice i guess

[shadow skiff]

Unless FS somehow broke that.

[blazing oasis]

Is there some kind of mechanic in havoc I am ignorant to, where crushers can just “actually kill” you despite not having a fully corrupted wound?

[dapper shard]

Melee attacks that damage your health in Havoc also apply corruption. So if a Crusher hits you for several hundreds of damage with an overhead, it will just outright kill you if the corruption damage is more than one wound’s worth of your health/will corrupt you past your last wound, on top of dealing regular damage

This bonus corruption damage is based on Havoc rank as well; at some point it starts at 10, then goes to 20, and eventually 30%

[blazing oasis]

I know the idea is to…well, not get hit by crusher Overheads…

But would Stimm Supply’s corruption immunity counter act this insta KO?

[shadow skiff]

Yes, you will go down still though.

Unless you have some feature to gate the damage or make you invul before death.

Or just enough DR to take it.

[keen flume]

Nah not even go down

You just die in one hit on high havoc

[lost smelt]

Which class has the highest skill floor?

[keen flume]

All classes

except arbites

[balmy moat]

probably psyker or vet

but yeah arbites has the lowest skill floor

psyker because its got an extra mechanic, but vet also possible because without voice of command active you're very squishy

[keen flume]

Ogryn requires the most positioning to learn him

[balmy moat]

yeah but he's also a tank

with a built in extra wound for forgiveness

[vocal nacelle]

Tank but doesn't think

[balmy moat]

he thinks a lot

he just has to think out loud or it doesnt count

[vocal nacelle]

Can learn how to run from bullets when playing ogryn

[shadow skiff]

Not if corruption immune.

You just take the damage then and go down.

Still basically dead with how hard it is to pickup in high havocs, but... you know.

[arctic sinew]

zealot chat kinda unhelpful rn so quick question what is the value of the mk 2 relic blade over the mk 10 one

cause I see some ppl use mk 2 and I can't tell why it would be better

[craggy minnow]

Combos

I'd have to boot up to be more specific but my power is out!

If you learn the patterns it's got superior weakpoint perf though is the main thing iirc