gameplay-help

[vocal nacelle]

150 dmg on first heavy

thats around 2 stack

can reach up to 250dmg per tick

or just test it on psykanium i dont remember every bleed dmg tick

[gentle lily]

So its been a hot minute since i cared....but mels not counting my stuff on his contracts....anyone else get that?

Like i k ow for a fact i left with a grim last match, and i know i killed a plague ogryn that match, but it didnt count either

[vocal nacelle]

Try to change character

[leaden wave]

Did you check your bounties before the mission?

[vocal nacelle]

Or exit the lobby and login again

There's a weird bug , weekly not calculated after mission ends

Another one would be , weekly progression straight up disabled if you got DC'ed during mission

[rain oxide]

hi friends! I'm too drunk or stupid or both... is there an lfg channel in this disc, and/or is there a way to look for vc lobbies in game? Thanks in advance!

[stoic iron]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[rain oxide]

awesome, tysm!

[gentle lily]

Yeah

[gentle lily]

I think id been hitting the bug, re started the game and now its finally counting them

The irony complete 8 missions... and most of the others would have been done

[stoic iron]

as a zealot every time I get my soul sucked out by a dh I'm suddenly up again and can survive but will instantly die if I take damage again, is that to do with the until death talent?

[vocal nacelle]

just dodge

[stoic iron]

tf you on about

I'm saying that I don't die from a dh soul suck

but if I get hit after then I don't go down I just die

I'm not supposed to survive the soul suck at all

[quaint spade]

how to open this score board ?

[vernal plaza]

Mods

[vocal nacelle]

I survived 1 hp suck before, i would spam dodge, push and block like my life depends on it (it does)

Does your health looked like this?

The zealot one

[stoic iron]

this happens every time on my zealot

[signal apex]

Stepbrogryn

😭

[vocal nacelle]

Thats a weird bug

[quaint spade]

how to hard carry as ogryn... its hard to carry when im having hard time to kill range priority target when my teammate are just pure 🤡

[vocal nacelle]

well depends on your skill tree and equipment more talks in #ogryn-class because long explanation

[lean eagle]

Has anyone had their Weapon Special Action not work? Afaik it only works on my lasgun now (flashlight)

Boltgun bash, or any of the melee weapon activations do not work

😦

Rebinding it works, and I can bind it to 6 which isn't too much of a hassle, but apparently the problem sits with it conflicting with Wield Auspex? I had both binded to 5.

has anyone else had this issue?

[dreamy wedge]

I'm playing knife/stealth Zealot, with the mk3 blade. The sweeps being on light for clearing hordes and the big stab being on the charged attack for breaking invis and getting backstab bonus damage feels right and for the life of mine I can't wrap my mind around the logix of the mk6 flipping the roles of heavy and light attacks. Can someone try to sell me on mk6, because as it currently stands I can't bring myself to even try it out once in a proper mission.

[dreamy wedge]

Wield auspex got moved to 5 when stimms took its place on 4, they probably just yeeted auspex on 5 without any failsafe against something already being on that button

[vocal nacelle]

Is this the new one?

[dreamy wedge]

Ye

[vocal nacelle]

You can skip to heavy 3 (overhead stab) when you do the knife punch

Punch air and stab

[dreamy wedge]

Like, stealth>special>heavy will give you an overhead stab without breaking invis?

[quick remnant]

Why would it not break invis ?

[dreamy wedge]

Because if it breaks invis then it's pointless, since I'd want invis specifically to line up a backstab?

[quick remnant]

It won't break invi if you don't hit something with the punch

[frosty wing]

please FATSHARK implement a way of putting player with the same investiment in your game into the same game and vice versa PLS

[simple merlin]

What is the difference between Auric Malestorm and Auric T5? For what does the T5 stand for?

[quick remnant]

T5 is Damnation

[simple merlin]

ah thanks. Was alway wondering if there would be an option to make it more difficult like with Twitch mode

[quick remnant]

Atm there is no Twitch mode

[obsidian orbit]

A question I've had a hard time searching for; is a critical determined on attack or on hit? That is, if I make one attack that hits two enemies is there one roll for crit for the attack or two rolls for the hits?

[hard goblet]

It's determined on attack as far as I know. Since I can crit with a lasgun despite not hitting an enemy.

[sleek kelp]

do you have 3 trinkets with 15% corruption resist?

[autumn fjord]

Do you have a 12 button side panel on your mouse? I noticed that once I removed my 12 panel. Everything worked perfect.

[lean eagle]

Lol

I mean yes ish

It's not removable

[autumn fjord]

Ah. Rip.

[lean eagle]

It's the Logitech g600

I'll just rebind auspex to 6

All will be right in the world

[autumn fjord]

For some reason the game has a hard time reading 12 button side panels, atleast with this new update.

[lean eagle]

The whole surprising thing is that the flashlight still worked

Like, what

So it's reading the input, but it needs more than a single impulse for anything but the flashlight?

And it doesn't get it cos the "use auspex" binding takes over?

Ayayay

[autumn fjord]

I had the exact same problem. Literally the exact same.

Torch worked and everything.

I was so mad.

[little coyote]

You should probably report this in the forums if the issue hasn't been noticed yet

[celest matrix]

Guys, do you, know any blessing which can only be lvl 1-3 like man stopper and flechette for shotguns?

[stoic iron]

nah

[autumn fjord]

Sincere question, what is the difference between the braced auto gun and the infantry auto-gun?

[sleek kelp]

what do you have? and whats your talent setup

[craggy minnow]

infantry autogun is a standard assault rifle type gun with iron sights you can aim down
braced autoguns have an alternate fire that basically locks your hipfire spread pattern to a tight fan you spray in

[autumn fjord]

Oh lit!

[sleek kelp]

thanks

[craggy minnow]

fatshark needs to give us a way to screenshot builds all at once i s2g lol

[stoic iron]

I suspect it's to do with Until Death

[rain crown]

whats a quick way to max weapon rating?

[vocal nacelle]

how much money you have?

[rain crown]

tbh not much, but i will farm it enough so i can get to max

[vocal nacelle]

wait are you looking for plasteel or 370+ weapon rating?

[rain crown]

the latter

[vocal nacelle]

brunt casino

And hourly brunt

[rain crown]

thanks. time to strap in for some farming

[prisma pilot]

I get this error constantly, does anyone know how to fix it maybe
or am i just doomed

[vocal nacelle]

just play again

memory leak

[celest flume]

it's a memory leak in the game. introduced recently

[prisma pilot]

jesus

[celest flume]

no, not jesus. the Omnissiah

[prisma pilot]

true!

i guess i just wait for them to fix it then

[vocal nacelle]

appease your machine spirit

[prisma pilot]

my pc sucks so i get the error a lot lol

[vocal nacelle]

by perfoming the restart ritual

[vernal plaza]

Nah common problem

[white osprey]

Does anyone know how to get past that one unskippable demonhost?
after an investigation
you go through one of the slow doors and there's a demonhost with no path around it

[vernal plaza]

This again

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjtxQCxkNmCrwIRvk4WvSeYcUi1kxgw0o?si=MdPMe_c0BcddExBH

[vocal nacelle]

run faster than your teammate

[vernal plaza]

Just jump like the vid ive linked above

[shadow latch]

For melee weakpoint hits does my weapon need to actually hit the weakpoint or does my cursor need to be on the weakpoint? Not sure how the hitboxes work

[stoic iron]

weapon needs to hit it, even with the curser directly on an enemies head you can still miss because of things like height differences or horizontal attacks

[shadow latch]

Ok thanks

[prisma pilot]

why buy when i could just download more

[vocal nacelle]

I got 32gb still got munched

[fair lichen]

Hi peeps! Need help for the Perk, I should get Flak right?

[craggy minnow]

The xv wants maniac and flak about evenly still i think? I don't think either of the blessings are good either unfortunately

I'd go maniac because i see dreg ragers maybe 10x as often as scab ragers still

[stoic iron]

momentum is good on the new evis

but for perks can go carapace/flak if you want to be able to one shot every enemy that isn't a boss

swap cara for maniac if you want to shred dreg ragers and kill a mutant with a heavy but that's really all you get out of it

[craggy minnow]

The xv feels really weird to me

The classic evisc seems to do everything better if you know the patterns

[stoic iron]

yeah I prefer the old one overall but the new one is definitely better at dealing single target dps

old one has a more 'fun' moveset and potential combos whereas the new one is just light spam for hordes heavy for elites/specials

[craggy minnow]

Im trying to remember what specifically upset me about the xv

I feel like some of the attacks were sticky even if you didn't activate

[stoic iron]

heavies are like that but they are like that on the old one too if you hit an armoured enemy

[quick remnant]

Light are slower, that's what bug me

[craggy minnow]

I felt that too

[stoic iron]

yeah it took me a long time to get over how slow and imo shitty the lights feel

[craggy minnow]

The rhythm was definitely off

[quick remnant]

In my opinion it's a lacklustre Exe Sword

[craggy minnow]

The classic evisc makes you feel like an artist when you use it well its really well designed

[quick remnant]

Tru tru

Like the Halberd in VT2

[fair lichen]

I'll try to get Carra

[plain knoll]

hey im level 17. when do i start dressing cool like the other big boys ?

[vocal nacelle]

💳 💰

[plain knoll]

like these

[plain knoll]

ohh

[vocal nacelle]

loulatorus one from event

if you play before 14/7 november or something you get the skin

[plain knoll]

sad i missed it

[vocal nacelle]

or you can complete the penance for ogryn

[plain knoll]

whats that ?

[vocal nacelle]

press esc -> penance

[plain knoll]

ahh i see

thanks for the help

[vocal nacelle]

also feel free to ask in class channel usually more info there

[serene lily]

acceptable optimization? 1440p medium settings and this is mourningstar ffs

[little coyote]

Turn on DLSS, quality alone should pump those up to 100+ without any hit to how good it looks

[serene lily]

yeah i have it, i tweaked around again until it worked

its something with the drivers resetting all my setting

[little coyote]

yeah that happens, probably enabled raytracing

[serene lily]

it did, in the launcher it said raytracing on but in game it said it wasnt on

its a fight with this game sometimes

atleast its all worth it in the end

plus i dont know waht it is but i cannot get this game to run on more than 80 frames

i am running 1440p tho but still sometimes it kinda sucks

[winged lotus]

anyone know whats up with darktide randomly deleting some of its files?

ive heard it might be my firewall doin it and ive given the game the permissions it needs but its still deleting its own files

i have to validate this games files on steam so often

[void forge]

Do you have an anti virus?

[winged lotus]

I do yes

[void forge]

My friend's PC had an anti virus which was deleting his files

Make sure darktide is excluded and then verify game files again

[winged lotus]

exclude the whole file in my steam apps?

or just like the launcher or the exe file

[void forge]

Everything

The whole game folder for sure

If it works you can report the issue with the blue flag in your steam library

[winged lotus]

well ive given it the exeptions in my antivirus,

hopefully that solves that

ty

[void forge]

I hope it works brutha

[winged lotus]

when i do valitdate tho it tells me 2 files are missing and then when i go to redownload them i get a disk write error

does that sound like antivirus stopping it?

[void forge]

It could be, does your anti virus have logs, or some way to check if it's deleting things? Otherwise it could actually be a hardware issue

Your anti virus may also have a game mode which you can enable to temporarily cease it's bullshit

[winged lotus]

oh my god haha i found it in my antivirus

its quarantined like 30 of the same file and there all darktide haha

my poor baby

[void forge]

Yep my friend had the same thing

Glad you found it

[winged lotus]

good talk thanks for the guidance

[void forge]

Which anti virus do you have btw?

[winged lotus]

AVG

was the culprit

though ive been told avg is pretty bad

[still helm]

Is it possible to get tier 2 blessings at level 30

[void forge]

Yes

[young rampart]

Whats the diff between HiSTG and HiEZ

Both spawn waves of Specialists

[formal glacier]

Hello all how's it going

Kind of new and I'm building trust as a Zealot at the moment. I had a question for the people who've played a while, are there anythings that you wish you new sooner?

[young rampart]

That weapon rating dont mean shit but the stats does

[craggy minnow]

Im tangentially in IT and i don't use anything but windows defender (on my home pc), none of the paid ones are appreciably better and a malwarebytes manual scan can give a second opinion

[drowsy path]

Fury of the Faithful/Chastise the Wicked gives you rending on your ranged weapon, letting you ignore armor for a short time.

Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude is very strong but it doesn't actually make you and allies invulnerable like the tooltip says it does. Walk forward when you use it, the suppression radius is huge and will stun every ranged enemy in the room.

You're the fastest class with a still-high health pool. Don't be afraid of going into melee. I see too many new players shy away from close encounters because they get damaged too much, and use their ranged weapon too often, and also make the frontline weaker. Learning melee is how you make the class strong.

Above all else, it's a learning experience. Don't let losses get to you. 👍

[stuck oar]

Guys, does anyone know if Blood Redemption and Vicious Offering stack?

[drowsy path]

I would assume they don't synergize, given that Vicious Offering is a conditional restoration and Blood Redemption specifically interacts with the innate melee kill restoration.

But, I wouldn't know for sure, I never really pay attention and I don't commonly use those perks together.

[hard goblet]

No. Blood Redemption is only increasing the base amount of toughness you gain when melee killing an enemy, i.e. Toughness Replenishment.

[stuck oar]

Well, that solidifies my build then. It was either that (if they stacked) or Sustained Assault

I was just worried because I feel like I don't have enough sustain, so I guess I'll have to spec my curios to help with that

[hard goblet]

I thought vicious offering was part of how Ogryns sit at the front with infinite toughness?

[stuck oar]

Ogryn's? This is Zealot. Do they have the same perk?

[drowsy path]

No, they have a better set of 2 perks that give them 25% of their toughness for landing a heavy attack.

[stuck oar]

Jesus

I might as well get some opinions, do people approve? Aim is a mix of everything melee. Crits, Cooldown Reduction, Damage, Toughness Sustain.

[hard goblet]

Ahhh that's the one. Sorry my mistake.

[drowsy path]

I personally find the heavy attack restore on Zealot to be underwhelming for a perk point.

[stuck oar]

I consistently heavy in my clearing as I use the older Evicerator.

I kinda want the perk points that are wasted near the top going from right to left, but I like my knives :/

[drowsy path]

You get a major increase to melee damage output at the bottom of the tree with a very small 2 point investment with Sustained Assault.

[stuck oar]

Do you reckon its worth getting rid of the knives and getting that instead? I do have a revolver I don't use much anymore, could probably chuck that on to compensate

[drowsy path]

If you like knives you don't have to get rid of it. Especially since down the knife path you get Enduring Faith which is mandatory for crit Zealot

[stuck oar]

It;s more I'd do this instead, and the extra 2 skill points I get from it would go towards Sustained Assault

Enduring Faith is still here

But no knives

I think that's what I'm gonna do. Knives were fun, but I;ve got a ranged weapon to do the same job. I can get more out of my main melee whilst keeping everything else I wanted. Just gotta get a good revolver

[drowsy path]

That's fair. Good luck with that.

[formal glacier]

Thank you so much for the info it's helped a lot

I just started today and so far I'm level 12

I am really loving the game though I played a little bit when the game released but I had to go on a business trip. I'm glad to finally be able to enjoy the game though. Orginally I played a psyker but since I hadn't played in a very long time the idea of just making a new operative seemed to be smarter.

When I played last the builds were like a point every 5 levels and each tier had like 3 choices

Way different than now

[drowsy path]

[royal plover]

how do i turn my mods back on after update?

[chilly wharf]

is this good?

[candid turret]

what is advantages of choosing higher mission threat level?

[lean mirage]

shit, i think so yeah

[lean mirage]

more money and xp

anyway i got a question for the lot o' ya on this server

oh nevermind the game decided to do its fucking job now

[amber timber]

when farming for lv4 blessing, is it better to consecreate all the way to Orange or will Blue suffice?

[stoic iron]

orange is generally better but that's if you're willing to spend a shit load more plasteel, check pins for how much it costs to upgrade

[amber timber]

thanks, time to get farming then

[meager glade]

whats the point of the combat knives on zealot? are they any good?

[signal apex]

used to be really good

idk how good they are now anyway

[craggy minnow]

solid choices for a bleed crit build still

they make you fast as hell

[shadow latch]

Is there a way to tell when you critical hit?

[pseudo stag]

Do you guys know if the Be Methodical Penance can still be achieved with the new skills/blitzes?

[vocal nacelle]

plasteeeeel

can get 700+ plasteel when playing damnation

[vocal nacelle]

sound sfx and weapon swing turn orange or range "ping" sound

[vocal nacelle]

isnt that pretty easy?

get highlight all gunner

[pseudo stag]

Lol, no, I meant like does Executioner's Stance apply to the penance? I've heard mixed responses that the penance might be still bugged to only work with the old og Volley Fire ability.

[vast flower]

yes, it does. I did the penance with Executioner's Stance with the relentless ability modifier equipped

[pseudo stag]

Awesome, much appreciated. Any tips on weapon choice? Las pistol, maybe?

[vast flower]

anything really, I used the plasma gun and the revolver

[autumn fjord]

Is there a list that gives a basic rundown of each weapon's playstyle along with melee weapons? I'm looking for a great single target gun, or secondary and a horde-clearing melee weapon.

[vocal nacelle]

what character

[autumn fjord]

I mainly play Zealot.

[vocal nacelle]

uhhh for ranged usual pick is bolter, revolver and autogun columnus for infantry agripina for braced

or laspistol

melee combat axe (rashad or antax) : spam light attack on everything except monster / ogryns

what weapon are you using rn

its kinda long to explain it all

[autumn fjord]

No worries, I was using the MK2 Evis, and the Agripina Infantry Auto.

[vocal nacelle]

that one i use crit heavy swing build

cleave horde like butter

[autumn fjord]

See, that's what I like. I also -really- rather enjoy the Evis.

[quaint spade]

What is the max value of weapon rating for now, chat ? Is it 525 ?

[quick remnant]

380 for the grey base

[rough iron]

PLEASE, I BEG... ADD AN "UPDATE LOADOUT" BUTTON...

[vocal nacelle]

550

[fast laurel]

yes you have both good blessings for the Agrip revolver

Switch ranged weak spot damage for Flak/Elites

[violet wagon]

Do weapon perks that say Damage against carapace armored enemies for example, affect the entire enemy or just the parts covered in certain armor types? Wouldn't this make the carapace armor perk next to useless?

[cloud kestrel]

Hi peeps, I'm looking to learn about parrying in this game - is it a manual thing by blocking then attacking, or is there a timing element to blocking that will auto parry an attack? Cheers

[quick remnant]

Part that are Carapace.
And no it doesn't make it useless https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?armor=super_armor

[violet wagon]

ty

[young rampart]

Difference between HiSTG and HiEngagementZone?

[coral violet]

1)hi intensity + specialist waves 2)hi intensity

[young rampart]

Okay both says increased Specialist presence tho

But thanks

I love HiEZ, favourite modifier

[coral violet]

melee only maelstrom is the most fun for me

makes the plasma vet truly shine

[young rampart]

But u dont get ammo pickups correct?

[coral violet]

if you dump into hordes of maulers you get more than you spend

[young rampart]

Right, infinite cleave w the Plasma

And ammo aura

[stoic iron]

you can only parry with the Devil's Claw swords sadly

[coral violet]

also ally specialist/elite kills give you enough to shit on them indefinitely

maulers that is, not allies

[coral violet]

not quite infinite actually. thats the only place where 100 cleave might not be enough to punch through all of the armor

[vocal nacelle]

4 crusher

Wait i forgot crusher or monster that have 25 mass

[young rampart]

Need to get me vet a Plasma

[coral violet]

crusher trains arent as frequent as mauler ones but yeah

cleave chokes on cara

[young rampart]

250K roll on Brunt

[coral violet]

could be fun if they did another sunder incident

fully charged shots ignore armor hit mass

[supple thunder]

For Crafting once I change a blessing I can't change the other blessing right? meaning I can only change 1 blessing and 1 perk with crafting

[coral violet]

you can change a total of 2 anything now

[supple thunder]

also upgrading the quality won't consume 0/2 crafting slots right?

oh awesome

[vocal nacelle]

Upgrade to orange

Then change blessing /perk

[supple thunder]

thank you\

[jovial gyro]

what is the easiest auric mission ? will be my first time , i dont want to bring down the team , got tips?

[lyric valley]

how do you start the orthos offensive mission does it just pop onto the mission board or do you have to do something first

[fervent ridge]

It is not available yet

[gritty anchor]

Hello, i have a question about curiosities :

If i put on my 3 curiosities the + 30% shield regeneration, will it be a total of 90% of shield generation ?

Or is it only one perk per curiosities, and they don't cumulate ?

[vocal nacelle]

depends on director mood tbh

[vocal nacelle]

yes toughness is additive

[languid grail]

does the Be Your Best penance require the un-upgraded Big Box of Hurt to do progress on it?

[cloud kestrel]

I know but how do I actually do it?

[languid grail]

mouse 5

[languid grail]

the back button on the left side of your mouse

unless thats the special action im thinking of

[cloud kestrel]

Ive never heard of a back button on a mouse 🙂

[languid grail]

its a gaming mouse

[cloud kestrel]

Is parry an auto thing if I block a hit just right?! Thats all I wanted to know:)

[coral violet]

no, its a separate action

[rigid sphinx]

new to discord, but i'm looking for 3 shield ogs to help with malleus monstronum. any suggestions?

[languid grail]

find some friends

[rigid sphinx]

that

that's the real challenge of that penance lol

[languid grail]

[prime bone]

how to avoid game crashing to desktop when simply entering melk's store>?

[languid grail]

oh you too?

[jovial gyro]

is it impossible to block a Ogryn crusher's overhead attack cos the game designed it that way?

[velvet siren]

hey idk if anyones had this problem but i keep getting a blackscreen sometime in the middle of run that just forces me to restart my computer

like it doesnt take any input from my keyboard or mouse, and still emits some sound from the gameplay but idk it doesnt happen with any other games

[woeful root]

ye, except with the dclaw or ogryn's shield

there are some other block bypass attacks like the mauler's overhead, some of plogryn's attacks, beast of nurgle's melee attacks

block bypass attacks usually have a short dodge catch and lag compensation in the player's favor during multiplayer games, so you can spot dodge them most times

[rigid sphinx]

anyone bored and wanna help me do malleus monstronum?

[dapper raptor]

pls dt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlfJW2VGLM

(Inverse of title for DT, but you get it)

[rigid wasp]

Any tips for completing the under 20 mins penance for zealot? Been struggling with a buddy of mine for a bit

[gritty anchor]

Just put the runnign efficency, and skip the most part of the whole lvl

Do it in private, its easier

[rigid wasp]

We've been unlucky a few times, been getting 21 min runs, but I'll see that helps! Thanks!

[zinc pier]

ive a question, one of the ogryn penences says to kill the daemon eyeball thingy with a box o grenades. but i havnt been successful with this. is it cause i have the upgrade so the nade explode? that disqualifies it? or am i just not doin nuff damage and some one else is nicking the kill imediately after i throw it?

[warm nebula]

That should have been fixed in… one of the updates around Traitor’s Curse Pt 2… gimme a hot second to look for the patch notes

I hear that not upgrading your Blitz lets you finish it. Can’t confirm that atm

Oops, I lied about the eyeball one. Can’t find a patch note that says that one specifically is fixed

They fixed a few other box penances, and other penances from other classes, stemming from the new skill trees. But not that one (maybe it’s an “enemy” type Penance, and not “Ogryn” type?)

[zinc pier]

@warm nebula thank you! normal box it is then. emprah bless yee X3

[warm nebula]

Good luck

[feral gust]

ChainAx vs Hevis.
Evis seems to do more damage - does ax do more 'stagger' or something?

• ie. is there any reason why I SHOULDN'T switch to Evis

[mighty inlet]

old chainaxe mainly has high single target damage and penetration on lights

[feral gust]

I just used the my first evis, 15 I think.

• not satisfying 'thunk' cos it seems to penetrate/ignore mass?
• crusher squashed me cos it didn't stagger from headshot as much

[finite adder]

Hey there, I've got a silly question to ask.

Right now, there's a curio in the exchange that offers 17% toughness. It's blue. If I upgrade it to purple, will the amount of extra toughness increase as well?

[feral gust]

no; you'll get an additional blessing (randomized)

• max is 1x main + 3x supplementary blessings.
• each blessing can be
• 1-4 'pips' (randomized power)
• randomized usefulness

[finite adder]

So I just gotta keep waiting for the store to refresh until it rolls out a ~20% toughness bonus curio?

[feral gust]

yes.

• you can 'refine' curios and replace the supplementary perks.
• but the main one is 'locked' IIRC; it's been a long time since I did one.

Don't bother 'tweaking weapons/curios' until you reach lvl30

• just save aaaalllll your diamantine and plasteel.
• if a weapon has magnifying glasses, surrender it to hadron. - never sell it
• if you see a weapon (even ones you dont want) with a magnifying glass in the shop, buy it and submit to hadron

[finite adder]

I'm level 30. I'm just trying to pull together all the right weapons and curios for heresy level content.

[feral gust]

collect a bingo card of blessings.
A full card (tier4) is as valuable as a 380 god-roll

[mighty inlet]

max toughness is 17% max hp is 21%

[finite adder]

I got toughness and HP mixed up.

Cap for toughness is 17% and HP is 20-21% iirc.

[feral gust]

Toughness might be valuable again - now that they fixed the fire.

[finite adder]

I'm confused by this being a Level 4 blessing that isn't at cap, though.

[feral gust]

Toughness REGEN=/= Toughness
Remember Toughness Regen won't activate until certain conditioins:

• coherence.
• class specific talents (eg psyker charge/quell)

[finite adder]

The top blessing.

[mighty inlet]

well thats just the main stat

[feral gust]

Ah, you can't submit perks, only blessings.
1x primary blessing (normally 5x pips)
1-3x supplemental blessings, depending on green,blue,purple,gold

[finite adder]

Yes, well, the thing is..

It's level 4, the highest level for a blessing, right?

But it's not the highest that your toughness can be.

Is there some RNG range with blessing bonuses?

[feral gust]

Lvl5 for primary

[finite adder]

5, gotcha.

[feral gust]

I think

[finite adder]

I don't know why I thought it was 4. Maybe that's the case with weapons.

I'll check Hadron when I can get in-game.

[feral gust]

max 4 squares/pips for weapons and curio-supplementals.
5 square/pips for curio main-perk

gl with the curios.

[chilly wharf]

i dont mess with autoguns to much, is this good?

err...decent?

[fast laurel]

yes. 54% Collateral isnt too bad

iirc it affects your damage and stagger potential against certain armor types

[mighty inlet]

what the heck is with the specialist audio. literally no notice of that burster sneaking up my ass

[fast laurel]

yeah

[mighty inlet]

actually i can hear it if i turn the volume up but its way more quiet than it should be

[fast laurel]

this has been a reoccurring problem now for weeks. Silent specialists sound cues are just so annoying to deal with.

[hexed sphinx]

Does anyone know if auric gives more materials over standard?

[stoic iron]

auric gives more exp and dockets, nothing else

[hard goblet]

It doesn't. Unless you count dockets.

[hexed sphinx]

ahh gotcha

[hard goblet]

Crafting resource spawn ratios are solely determined by difficulty level.

Damnation, Heresy, Malice, etc.

Modifiers will add additional exp/docket payouts which you can see on the mission select window.

[hexed sphinx]

Yeah, I knew it went up the higher you went, I just wasnt aware if auric gave you more, over whatever is normal for heresy/damnation

Ty!

[elder gull]

How do I enable dlss3, or is that just the default?

[novel island]

Tbh I heard it. But it definitely sounded like it was too far away.

[wary osprey]

tips for rolling the blessings you want?

just brunt armory and roll to blue then earn the blessing?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

pray for T4 blessing

[wary osprey]

So docket AND plasteel gambling okay, lol

[pliant skiff]

Anyone know how much toughness is gotten back on kill ?

[vocal nacelle]

like basic one or talent?

[fast laurel]

5%

[pliant skiff]

The default rate yea

[pliant skiff]

Thanks !

[chilly wharf]

am i winning?

[stoic iron]

look at melk as more of a blessing vendor than weapon vendor

or just spend thousands of plasteel rolling

[fast laurel]

Yes

You just switch ranged crit chance for either Flak/Carapace

[robust dune]

Wat is the special assignment?

[zenith lichen]

@fresh prairie nice quality update

how does this get past testing???

[fresh prairie]

We're working on it ASAP 🙏

[brisk crag]

I got a question about how to deal with gunners, I have gotten pretty good at most other enemy types but gunners blow me up, especially on zealot. Does anyone have tips on how to escape getting stunlocked by them shooting me?

[chilly wharf]

A B D

ALWAYS BE DODGING

wait... A B C D... always be constantly dodging

[brisk crag]

Well

I try to dodge, but once they hit me I get stunned and just can't move even when mashing spacebar

is it just git gud don't get hit in the first place?

[chilly wharf]

i mean, theres a lot of things that depend on build i think.

[brisk crag]

hmm

[chilly wharf]

for instance theres blessings that give you immunity to ranged attacks for a few seconds, or abilities in your tree that could give you things like stun immunity for a few seconds, things like that. I'm no expert on the zealot tho so i could be off base here lol

[brisk crag]

ok, so I guess until I learn to be more aware, I should spec into some ranged defense stuff?

I know some zealots use the daggers to deal with ranged enemies but I like the immolation nades

[ruby eagle]

Ranged units emit a loud pitched noise to warn you that they're firing, if you can identify that you can dodge them pretty consistently

[brisk crag]

I know the sniper sound but gunners always catch me off guard so maybe I should hit the meat grinder for practice

[ruby eagle]

Gunners do it too, it's in the same vain as melee enemies, where the SECOND they're attacking a sound is heard to dodge or block

Takes a bit to get used to but practice makes perfect

[brisk crag]

I see, but you can't block ranged attacks right? (unless you got an ogryn shield)

[ruby eagle]

Yeye

[brisk crag]

ok

[ruby eagle]

Uhhh I know a blessing also gives you the ability to block ranged attack on the power sword or Psyker force swords??

[brisk crag]

I think I did see a blessing for a force sword where they could block ranged attacks with it too actually, but that doesn't help me on zealot haha

yea

[ruby eagle]

For zealot your best bet is dodging and using cover, I main Zealot and heavy gunners still make me into Swiss cheese so it's a relatable issue lol

[brisk crag]

Yeahhh lol it's rough honestly

even with relic it's possible to get stunlocked out of being able to cast it and downed

[ruby eagle]

For sure. If you use revolver, you can usually get rid of the gunners harassing you before they can shoot (assuming you aren't getting rushed by everything on the map lmao)

There is one more thing that might be able to help, Zealot has a node on the tree, called Swift Certainty. It's a bit out of the way but if you can manage the points, you'll always count as dodging so long as you're sprinting. Helps to get in and not get decimated by gunners instantly

[pearl nimbus]

i was agaisnt the twins and the last phase always killls me where they just spawn 8 or smth special melee mobs, what can i do?

[torn cargo]

What's the fastest way to farm materials nowadays? I've never done that sort of thing - so I'd presume you would play the normal damnation in quickplay, and then progress faster while looking for the materials around the map. Any other methods?

[rigid wasp]

any one know what helms or cosmetics change the voices for our toons?

[vocal nacelle]

certain mask can change voice

[vocal nacelle]

QuickPlay have 10% bonus

[rigid wasp]

indeed... but like there is a spikey one for the zealot that really changes it ... modulates it i was wondering if there were others

like for the vet... psyker... ogy... ect

[quick remnant]

There are a couple but we don't have a list

[fluid flare]

zealot iron halo headpiece, ogryn savlar chem-dogs rebreather, psyker black navigator headpiece (from latest set)

[wary osprey]

Anyone have any idea the best way to combo in blocks and shove into their melee chains?

Feel blocking and shoving are the only mechanics I haven't mastered yet to really elevating my gameplay

[dapper shard]

Blocking IMO is low tempo and should be the last action you ever consider over attacking, dodging or shooting. I only mostly block when there’s an attack coming my way that I can’t dodge out of or react to with an attack straight away, in order to intercept it.

Pushing generally is used to momentarily make breathable space for you if you’re running out of space to effectively dodge or want to interrupt a certain attack which would otherwise hit you

Also, Push or push attack follow-ups sometimes also combo into attacks that are far in light/heavy combo, so they can be reached easier (say, H2 on Eviscerator has better single target damage dealing potential than H1 when revved, hence you might be inclined do a combo of Rev -> Push -> Heavy 2, in order to reach it quickly before an elite approaches you).

And some push attacks have damage profiles that are preferable over regular attacks for particular kinds of threats

Say, Push attack follow-up on Mk3 Ogryn club is a Strikedown type attack with high single target damage against Carapace armour type, and chains into L3 attack, which is also the same type of attack

So this is a combo that Mk3 club can tackle Crushers/Maulers with

Some push attacks can make space better than others, notably Force swords on Psykers, which have an extended reach of 9m, and can heavily stagger some enemies out of their dangerous attack (like Mauler overheads), or otherwise make some targets hit the floor, with how much stagger power that push attack follow-up has.

[wary osprey]

This has been enlightening thank you! Was watching a lot of chocoB and noticed he does push/shove/shove attack a lot in combination with his attacks

Only just started mastering the backwards slide cancel

[cloud kestrel]

How do you do the last fight with the twins on th enew mission - dealing with the poison clouds mainly please?

Seems the whole room fills

[coral violet]

ceiling fans light up indicating the safe zone

[cloud kestrel]

ty

[finite adder]

Are there any video tutorials or written guides on learning how to combo, cancel, chain, and all that?

[warm nebula]

https://youtu.be/nSglTyG_lXw?si=_44wtGG0lOqkwMHZ

[jovial gyro]

why dont people recommend IV tactical axes? it has diaginal sweeps every light attack which always hits 3 targets a swing.

[hard goblet]

Because the profile of tac axes in general is extremely underwhelming/weak.

Also, horizontal sweeps are preferred for horde clearing.

[jovial gyro]

tactical axes special attack stuns all human sized enemies. people dont think its good cos other weapons can stun just as well?

[hard goblet]

Well the rashad for example can kill a bulwark in 2 hits faster than the other axe options. Bait a mace swing, two headshots with one being a heavy if I remember correctly.

No need to stun.

And often human sized enemies aren't the major concern.

Maulers are easily dodged. Ragers need some sort of answer. And then you want a weapon that can quickly kill crushers so you can handle multiple at once.

The tac axes' stun doesn't provide enough with its utility to forgo the better ttk on combat axes.

[jovial gyro]

people can use Rashad against hordes? looks slow and difficult for me to use in horde

[hard goblet]

Typically those builds will be running a ranged weapon for horde clearing.

On veteran at least, the columnus mk5 is cracked for it.

[jovial gyro]

Ah okay, interesting , thanks i will try Rashad

[hard goblet]

And melee vet is very strong.

[odd orbit]

is shred valuable on Chainswords? Should i get it?

[hard goblet]

It's not great.

Chainswords want savage sweep and rampage for the most part.

Wrath can be a one step downgrade substitute for savage sweep.

[tiny ferry]

Are people supposed to pop back in INSIDE the cage on twins fight?
Last run I spawned in the ring and got revived, this run the Zealot who died popped back in inside the cage, unable to be reached

Which part is the bug?

[odd orbit]

thank you

[violet flicker]

normally you respawn in the arena and can be rescued, on hard mode you respawn in the cage

[tiny ferry]

The fuck is hardmode?

Why were we in hardmode? 😄

[gritty anchor]

Hello guys,

Is the curios with 2 wounds is rare ? Or is it easely obtainable by rolling at Melk ?

[tiny ferry]

Doesn't exist

[gritty anchor]

Yes it does

I seen it

With my own eyes

Blessed by the emperor faith

[gritty anchor]

Wait

My bad

Just saw i was wrong

sry

[tiny ferry]

😄

No worries, we all dream it existed

[raven turtle]

You mistook it for +2 stam I think

[tough epoch]

Basically one of your teammates went ahead and knowingly activated it.

so now you are lumped together on the trip up shit-creek

💀

[tiny ferry]

What a BELLend

[tough epoch]

I know because it JUST happened to me

we started and I see him ringing bells

and I just go:

[raven turtle]

I saw an Ogryn doing so, and pinging it, and I was like "Eh, an additionnal occasion to be goofy"

💀

I helped them, then we died

[tough epoch]

YEP

I was like

"Why the fuck am I in a cage? I WAS SUPPOSE TO SPAWN IN THE ARENA"

💀

[vernal plaza]

Its an insignia not charm

[gritty veldt]

anyone know if you can complete the special assignment hardmode on Uprising and then be able to teleport to it on Damnation?

[torpid kestrel]

Hard Mode got hands

[raven turtle]

Yeah, you can do that

It's what I've done

And you can tp to the boss in normal mode or in hard mode

Right bell = hard
Left bell = less hard

[torpid kestrel]

Other way around

[raven turtle]

Oh yeah

Classic I can't tell my right from my left issue

[inner delta]

I'm looking for good team to play the new mission in damnation

[raven turtle]

#vox-lfg-emea for you

[inner delta]

ty

[sharp veldt]

Alright, how are people doing hardmode on the twins?

[torpid kestrel]

Painfully

[sour iron]

It's tough but there's videos of people getting it done

Lots of elites keep popping up so you definitely need a load out able to deal with them

[median panther]

Which border is this and is it too late to get it?

[vocal nacelle]

Warhammer event this year, yes its too late

[worn vine]

what is the portents of decay penance? i dont see it anywhere

[sour iron]

Hidden, you need to unlock hard mode on the twins

[vocal nacelle]

you need to ding dong harder

[blissful python]

Does a noise play or anything when you've rung all 7 bells correctly?

[vocal nacelle]

there's a hum

[sour iron]

Music changes too

[stuck oar]

Has anyone managed to do hardmode twins yet? Me and 3 mates have just tried over and over for about 4 hours with no luck, and we're all quite experienced. We managed by pure luck to get the gun twin to 5% health and died.

We've tried switching our builds so much, but the most consistent has been having a crit Zealot with Evixcerator, a tanky Ogryn, an infiltrate Zealot and a relic Zealot. infiltrate to take care of mines, Ogryn to take atleast 1 bosses attention whilst we deal with specials, crit Zealot for specials and shield damage and then a relic Zealot for stunning bosses and creating space when its needed.

[half nacelle]

Hi "LF 1 more for karnak twins damnation hardmode

[glossy oriole]

Not sure if this is quiet the place for it but is anyone having a super annoying bug since the patch where they exit a shop and the game crashes?

also did I miss something? I did the the mission on heresey and damnation but the charms are not in my inventory

[finite adder]

I'm constantly trying to get the Abhor the Mutant penance. Is it better to try on difficulty level 1 or 3? The health is lower on 1, but mutants spawn pretty frequently on 3./

[stoic iron]

malice maelstrom with waves of mutants will give dozens throughout the mission

[finite adder]

I'll give it a shot. This one is somehow perplexing me. I kileld 2 mutants already with a charge heavy attack but no penance.

[stoic iron]

most people do it with a thunder hammer

I got it with the new evis naturally

[finite adder]

Tried the maul. Let me give the eviscerator a shot.

[sour iron]

You have to swing while still being propelled forwards by chastise

If you swing after the dash it's too late

[signal apex]

So like

What time does the shop rotate once it reached the 2nd thursday

[cold moon]

12:00 PM Central Europe Time

<t:1702551600:F>

[signal apex]

Damn

[kindred storm]

What are the twins considered armor wise for perks?

[fast laurel]

Their head is Carapace. The rest of the body is Flak

So Flak and Carapace perks is your best bet to do more damage against them

[sour iron]

I heard from elsewhere that body is unyielding but they could have been wrong

[pure marsh]

Ngl i dont get the new las pistol it dosent 1 tap alotta the elites the mk13 lasgun does but can actually hurt crushers im kinda split on how i feel on it

[fervent ridge]

Can confirm twin bodies are not unyielding

Maxed out godrolled thammer with 25 unyield thrust 4 shroudfield perfectionist and 20 bonus unyield from talent node that can 1shot all other bosses in damnation cannot even take 1/5th off their healthbars

If you bring a classic thunderhammer to fight the twins you'll be having a bad time

[sour iron]

[sterile rain]

Anyone know if there's a mod to control burster ticking volume? They're pretty quiet for me, shooting my lasgun and can only hear them when they're 10 ft away.

Just started happening on 12/12 yesterday

[torn nymph]

just a lil helpful tip for ppl trying to do the hardmode

[vernal plaza]

Th just bad for hard mode
The only notable thing you can do with th is 2 shotting ranged twin shield

[fervent ridge]

U THINK SO?

[slender garnet]

anybody willing to join me for a sec so I can get the dont stop me now penance? Can't start a private match solo I guess, and it will take like 1 min

[severe girder]

so question, is there really a point in getting more xp on an operator after lvl 30?

[stoic iron]

with the true level mod you can see what level you would be if the game had no cap of 30 but other then that no

[severe girder]

ok, cause im kinda confused why auric level operations (which require lvl30) display xp rewards still if you don't benefit from those at all

[stoic iron]

you can technically get into auric below level 30 if you're in a strike team with someone who has access to them

[severe girder]

interesting, didn't know that since i only play by myself with matchmaking

[jovial gyro]

During twins boss when green gas fills the area, are we suppose to find an empty space without green gas?

[hard goblet]

Yes. One area underneath a ceiling fan will be safe.

[stoic iron]

a white light will shine through a giant fan on the ceiling, you gotta stay under that

it will move at least once to a fan on the opposite side of the room

there's a sound cue for when to start looking for the light/fan

[jovial gyro]

Thank you very much

[loud widget]

Hey guys

I'm looking for some help with the special assignment on damnation + bell mode

[steep trail]

anyone know which ogryn mask has the voice changer effect?

does the Mark IX Brute Pattern Rebreather in the store right now have it?

[sleek mauve]

some 1 up for HARD MODE ?

[tepid skiff]

does anyone know, those hard mode groups, do they include doing the bell puzzle itself, or do they assume the puzzle's done, and it's all about sweaty tryharding now?

[stoic iron]

once anyone in your group has beaten the mission on hard mode the entire team can teleport straight to the fight in hard mode using one of the bells near spawn

[tepid skiff]

ah, wait, what? it's 'any single one with', not 'any single one without'?

i thought as soon as the group lacks a member with a puzzle, a bell doesn't appear.

if it's inclusive, then yeah, sure, it's much easier.

[white spindle]

the corruption of chaos knows no bounds

[jagged dawn]

Hey if anyone is down, my friend and I are will be trying to do the hard special assignment if anyone like to join us, we'll be in strike team 6

[worthy flint]

They are Carapace, Unarmored, and Flak from what I know. Mk XII Chaxe will do more damage to the void shield, carapace, and flak from my testing, and I couldn't test unarmored. Not quite sure yet if the assassination boss 1 shot you can do with Chaxe is doable on the twins.

[odd orbit]

which one of the twins takes more ranged damage?

[midnight bone]

shooty one takes more melee, melee one takes normal dmg from ranged to their shields

[odd orbit]

oh. ok

[sleek mauve]

looking for 1 more for HARD MODE

[past pine]

@sleek mauve still need?

[lyric bough]

anyone wanna play bell mode ?

[random shore]

Anyone up for secred hard mode ?

[lyric bough]

me

[golden vale]

Anyone know if their shield counts as a specific armor type? I've got a THammer with Carapace+Unyeilding, need to swap Unyeilding for something else.

[quick remnant]

Carapace

They are unyielding on their non armoured body parts

[worthy flint]

Does it count as Carapace or is it it's own armor type? I swear it was it's own armor type.

[fervent ridge]

They are Unarmoured Flak Cara

Cara head, unarmoured arms n legs, Flak in the middle

[quick remnant]

Gameslantern say carapace

[thorny radish]

If you're trying to ring all the bells, does it break if someone rings the bell more? Like you hit the bell the right number of times, then a teammate goes whacking at it?

[coral violet]

if i complete the puzzle on non-damnation will teleport bells appear in damnation SAs?

[sour iron]

yep it'll break

[sour iron]

yup you can do the puzzle on uprising if you want

[thorny radish]

Well, I can't, haha, because multiple people want to ring the bells

[sour iron]

yeah, best is to designate one person to ring the bells. otherwise maybe they're purposely doing that to avoid hard mode? :p

[little coyote]

Does the hard mode skip only work once you've completed the boss once with hard mode activated?

and how does one skip to the end then

[sour iron]

Yes you need to finish a match after activating the bells. You'll see a shrine near the entrance with two bells, left for normal right for hard mode. Everyone needs to hit the appropriate bell and you'll be teleported to the supply room

[little coyote]

okay thanks!

[sour iron]

That said, I believe if even one person has done the bells before it unlocks the teleport for that mission

[void forge]

Afaik everyone needs to have the penance

For the skip

[torpid kestrel]

No so long as one person has it, it's available

[odd orbit]

Twins heads are carapace or flak?

[merry sonnet]

Anyone want to complete the hardmode?

[odd orbit]

oh i see. thank you

do they share armouring?

[fast laurel]

I believe so

[tough bridge]

anyone trying to complete hard mode?

[void forge]

Try #vox-lfg-nasa

[merry sonnet]

I still need to

[tough bridge]

ok im down

[merry sonnet]

I have every class at 30 with solid weapon choices, so I'm flexible on the build needed

[tough bridge]

yeah thats fine im playing lvl 30 vet, i wanted to try to do the bells for HM on lower diff first (we could knock it out even on uprising just us) then we'll have the teleporter bells unlocked for Damnation

i havent done the bells at all yet

[merry sonnet]

Yeah I still need to do the bells, was it that only one person per game can do them?

[little coyote]

man, there's quite the jump in difficulty on hard mode heresy and hard mode damnation

the gunners really be gunning

[tough bridge]

not sure, probably has to be same person to do it

[little coyote]

doesn't matter who does them, just listen for the audio indicator after hitting them

[tough bridge]

ah ok

[tough bridge]

thx

[merry sonnet]

All right, I'm ready to hop on

[tough bridge]

ok u can inv me i'll DM u

[merry sonnet]

What's your name in game

Or on steam I mean

[tough bridge]

i sent u my friend code check ur messages

[zealous grove]

anyone looking for ppl to do the hard mode stuff? or is there any like lfg chat?

[tough bridge]

im playing thru windows store on pc

[merry sonnet]

Yeah we are

[tough bridge]

so u gotta add me in the social tab with the friend code otherwise give me urs

if u cant figure it out

[zealous grove]

u guys got a spot?

[tough bridge]

yes

im in @merry sonnet

fabian send us ur friend code

[zealous grove]

sent it

[thorn tartan]

For the Purgation Flamer, the damage roll doesn't really matter on it, right? I'm assuming the vast majority of the damage is from the burn stat and the damage roll is the main dump stat.

[worthy flint]

That's correct. Though mobility is the main dump stat, damage can be one as well.

[tribal rose]

Iam down for bells psyker 30 support smite/shield

[topaz dawn]

hey guys, does marksman talent work on melee?
it says only weak spot hits\

[sleek mauve]

looking for 2 more for HARD MODE

[upper yew]

hey boys, trying to complete hardmode do any of you guys have a free spot I can join?

[sleek mauve]

@upper yew we are in 2, doing Hardmode

[atomic lily]

Later today, I would like to find 3 players that could help me do the penance "make every shot count"

I know what needs to be done etc.

Just hard to communicate that through game chat DURING the mission to complete Randos that may or may not even be aware of it

[ocean umbra]

can someone help me with the damnation run? 🙂 i just wana get it done ;")

[meager field]

So during twin hard mode I normally play a shield ogryn and I mainly taunt the melee twin and take their attention while I let the other 3 focus on damage and horde clearing. Am I doing enough or should I also try to do more?

[quasi fog]

does anyone know if someone else ringing the bell causes hard mode to not trigger?

[meager field]

I believe it works as long as you hear the audio cue on each bell

When I unlocked it I did 6 while a random did 1

[quasi fog]

Weird

the first bell works

I can hear that sound cue

But with the others there’s nothing at all

[meager field]

Have you been hitting them the exact number of times?

One requires up to 9 hits

[quasi fog]

Yeah I did follow each hits on the bells

[haughty ore]

Anyone here running Orthus for plasteel? I got a question.

[meager field]

Is that effective? Damnation gives you like 250 and that is if you win. Doesn’t seem cost effective compared to a normal damnation run

[haughty ore]

That's what my question was. I am seeing a lot of chatter about it being the fastest method to get Plasteel currently, but that would only hold water if you get the same amount of plasteel regardless of the difficulty.

Like, you could through the Sedition, or whatever the lowest tier one is in like 5 minutes.

[meager field]

The number of chests you get depends on the difficulty

[turbid vapor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3113413608

[meager field]

Sedition wields less chests at the end, that’s what I noticed when I ran it to get the bell puzzle

[turbid vapor]

Apparently you don't need to do the bells on Damn

[haughty ore]

No, you do not.

I did it on Malice just so I could skip it.

[upper yew]

anybody down to do hardmode?

[humble lance]

anyone wanna hardmode

[dawn orchid]

ill join

[shadow jungle]

Do you need to ring the bells on damnation to unlock hard mode or can you go lower dificulty

[humble lance]

you can go a lower diffculty but you get less stuff

[shadow jungle]

I mean just to unlock it

[humble lance]

no

[shadow jungle]

I know you can do hard mode only in damnation, right?

[humble lance]

no you can do it lower but less stuff for doing so i think it's not entriely clear

[upper yew]

you can unlock the skip in lower difficulty

and then try dam run

[shadow jungle]

Ok, thanks

[lofty robin]

What's the skip to the hardmode?

[weak trail]

You attack right bell with your whole team at the begining of the map and you are instantly teleported to last boss area. Fight is much harder and deaths are ... permament

[lofty robin]

@dreamy spindle

[lofty robin]

Thanks!

[weak trail]

You welcome. I need to do this one as I have damnation normal run only. But in about 30 min i will try with my tank ogryn

[candid sparrow]

Im getting a backend error when i start my game. I already restarted my PC, what could the culprit be?

Worked just fine an hour ago

[candid sparrow]

I also got a steam synching issue btw

[lofty robin]

We've been trying to do this for 5 runs, always running the whole map lmao
Its so damn hard, worse than any malstorm i've played and i've spammed those

[weak trail]

Running whole map is easier believe me. I did damnation at 2nd try anyway secret hard mode... ohh boy this is brutal one

[candid sparrow]

wtf

[lofty robin]

Its even harder if i use the teleport at the beggining? We were bonking every bell on the way to the boss for the secret mode

[sleek mauve]

looking for 1 more for HARD MODE

[weak trail]

It is WAAAAAY harder

but you need to attack right bell (all of your team mates)

It is at the begining at the left side. If you will face 2 bells target the right one

[hidden rock]

Looking for group for Hard Mode

[lofty robin]

oh i see, but do i need to complete it first to use the skip or not?

I mean complete the secret mode without using the skip just running the map normally and hitting the bells

[weak trail]

I believe you need to complete first yeah

[cursive maple]

Wanna beat hard mode twins so bad

But no players on br servers

[potent hull]

WTF is this crap??

[coral violet]

50 max blocked players

[potent hull]

and yet I only have 7 blocked

[coral violet]

remove 1 and reblock

[potent hull]

but there being a max makes no sense

[coral violet]

yeah that kinda blows

[fiery prairie]

could anyone clarify what exactly is more important that VoC revival node?

[coral violet]

you cant spam it with revival augment

[solemn dust]

known bug thats been in the game for a while ,prob since launch tbh

[fiery prairie]

You don't really spam it with 30s of CD either

[coral violet]

?

psyker auras, special kill cdr

[hard goblet]

You do on higher difficulties.

Where the number of specials available to kill means you can activate VoC 3 or more times a horde.

[fiery prairie]

I am observing peeps on auric doing nothing with that

[hard goblet]

That's them being bad.

Not the skill being bad.

[fiery prairie]

Personally am running it with the node and have no trouble keep it off cd because of the things you have just mentioned

Which gets me back to the starting point - 3 more specs to get the thing off cd is not that of a demand, why ignore the thing. Unless you are playing with people you know, ofc. I can understand that you won't need to bother assisting them.

[coral violet]

it also reduces the range which im pretty sure is even worse than cd

[hard goblet]

The most compelling argument I agree with is that in the time it takes to revive someone with the shout's additional talent, you could also just use the default shout and the stagger it provides gives you the window to revive a player.

[fiery prairie]

People don't tend to fall to melee units, tbh. Maybe that's my personal observation though

[hard goblet]

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said.

[frosty wing]

Hello does the Rogue Trader comestic in the shop atm are gonna stay here in shorter periode of time than usual or normal amont of time in the shop?

[fiery prairie]

Ranged enemies can prevent you from reviving your mate, thought that much was obvious.

[hard goblet]

It's never been a problem for me, but I play exec stance vet so I usually kill ranged threats before attempting to revive.

[fiery prairie]

Correct, you have to clear first, otherwise it would be 2 dead people

[hard goblet]

So often the players I need to revive are ones surrounded by melee enemies.

Which one shredder grenade or one VoC shout gives enough time to revive for.

The value of the revive ability of VoC is mostly that you can somewhat press and forget and continue killing enemies.

Which is situationally helpful.

If there's ranged enemies currently focusing the person who went down.

[fiery prairie]

I am not saying it is a necessary node, but as long as one is playing without VC or with randoms, I would rather have it.

[fiery prairie]

Bomber threw a gren - can't rev anymore. With auric it is the case quite often, you do know that. So we either make a situation where your team has a char who allows enough space to rev, or you do need the rev node.

[hard goblet]

All I'm saying is it's situational as illustrated.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use it.

[fiery prairie]

It is indeed, I agree. I said it before that it is just better for worst case scenario.

Playing quickplay, though, I hardly ever see anyone using it, so I thought there is an actual reason behind it, not just "more range, less cd". My random veteran man usually hits F only on holidays.

[fiery prairie]

Have the same emblem on them as Krieg sets did, do not see any reason for them to expire earlier than those.

[limpid burrow]

why does game not allow me to rejoin back after a crash? Ive had this issues for the past 2 weeks
Like game crash, I immediately relaunch the game and it just acted like nothing happened

Is this a setting or
Cuz losing a fucking dam+ game out of nowhere is so damn infuriating, esp when Im farming materials

[atomic lily]

Later today, I would like to find 3 players that could help me do the penance "make every shot count"

I know what needs to be done etc.

Just hard to communicate that through game chat DURING the mission to complete Randos that may or may not even be aware of it.

If youre interested in grouping up to help me out lmk!!

[humble lance]

anyone want to do super hard mode need two people

[frail fable]

Can a chainsword blessing be re-blessed on a heavy eviscerator?

[analog kayak]

question about the bell puzzle to unlock hard mode, i watched a video on it and the video says everyone in the party has to hit the bells to unlock it, is this true or can i just private game and do it myself?

[tacit flame]

You can hit the bells yourself but you also have to succeed at the end or else you gotta do bells again. Unlocks for everyone in the lobby

recommend doing it in uprising difficulty and then you can have the shortcut for damnation

[analog kayak]

ah ok ill just ask groups on uprising ig hopefully no one troll me

[urban stag]

what are the requirements for these, i've seen people playing the game with them. are they for testers, darktide partners, developers or are there challenges i can do as a player to get them? i'm asking because i've seen multiple people use one or the other of these 2 frames quite often now and i'm confused as to how they were obtained. i just want to know why and how at this point but if i can get them to add to my collection that would be even more awesome.

[near pawn]

Damnation hard mode for the twins is pretty hard

I'll organize a group tomorrow tho
Probably

[frosty star]

am I being blind orrr what

is there way to get hitmarkers when ADSing?

I feel like I had it before now I dont

[vocal nacelle]

check the requirement in penance tab im pretty sure the right one is 200 investigation frame

wait

i remember playtester get a exclusive frame

[urban stag]

ty for ur help

[vocal nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1181602574873403392/image.png?ex=658ae2a6&is=65786da6&hm=28ef2f3b5cd36f537024de5d9c6a891eae6968c5e404dfe49e9e7d392ac3c46a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

yes playtester frame

the right one

[urban stag]

omg thankyou

been trying to find out what it was for ages

i'm just going to assume the left one is a similar situation

[vocal nacelle]

maybe the art contest winner?

there's also this one

[urban stag]

i haven't seen anyone with that one in game but i have seen the image before

[river crescent]

guys so, whats the build that would give you the best chance in pulling off a hard mode karnac twins solo?

its theoretically possible right?

[vocal nacelle]

more ogryn

you can ignore gas when playing ogryn

or zealot (kinda)

[river crescent]

yea im thinking my main issue is acutally rodin

i need some way to make enough space from rinda to actually attack him

i could use mobs to block his shots, but i have no way to actually get him down

ammo crate is probably a must

[vocal nacelle]

vet with field improvisation

need a mine sweeper

and someone to 1v1 rinda

[river crescent]

no but like, i meant solo

[vocal nacelle]

basically standard mmo boss fight tactic

[river crescent]

like can you do it completely on your own in theory

[vocal nacelle]

gun lugger ogryn can 1v1, clear ads, dps

[river crescent]

yea ogryns probably my best choice

[supple thunder]

when is the twin mission disappearing? i saw in the new pop-ups that it is limited time encounter

[river crescent]

shit really?

but its thier best mission to date 😦

[supple thunder]

yea....

that is unfortunate

wish they stopped being vague though

[river crescent]

they better move it in some form or another into the rotating mission board or we riot

[vocal nacelle]

unless they can conjure another special assignment in few weeks

twin boss gonna be there for 1-2 months prob

[supple thunder]

hope so

[supple thunder]

oh that is at least some good news

[daring fulcrum]

looking for 3 ogryns for twins

[high spade]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal plaza]

Thats their 'sneak peek' period when theyre replacing monstrosity in normal maps
The special assignment itself likely stays permanently

[supple thunder]

ohhh that is awesome, ty 😄

[red anvil]

what melee weapon blessings apply to helbore bayonets?

[hard goblet]

As far as I know, none of them should anymore.

The fact that limbsplitter and such used to was a bug that was patched out.

[red anvil]

Oh rip I was late to the party lol, thx

[sly scarab]

do we know if one person unblocks bells, does everyone get it?

[wary osprey]

Does the AI Director ramp up difficulty for premades?

For nearly 20 games straight over two weeks now, my group of friends who play a few games after work together, we've had some of the HARDEST missions we've ever played. But only when we're premade

every time I play with one or two, sometimes even three, never happens, and can play like that for a half dozen or more matches in one session

[still helm]

Does block efficiency apply while reviving someone?

From curios specifically

[vocal nacelle]

should be

i know psyker peril block active while reviving

[still helm]

What about the deflector blessing?

[vocal nacelle]

uhhh should be? i know previous patch it can block bullets

[red anvil]

As long as one person unlocked the bell, everyone can ring to teleport

[red anvil]

Nope, could just be AI director RNG. Could also just be your premade having skill issue

[wary osprey]

We've cleared some pretty tough situations before so I'm just wondering why

It's not chain failing

it's just ridiculous what spawns

Frequently getting entire carapace waves + ragers + muties + flamers + gunners all at the same time.

and always in fucking narrow corridors

[hard goblet]

It happens.

[wary osprey]

and dont get me started on the silent pox bursters, omfg

[hard goblet]

It may just be your premade doesn't have a loadout capable of handling that particular flavor of AI director rage in that mission.

The audio cues are definitely a problem though.

[wary osprey]

Yeah they are definitely playing their "fave" loadouts and not as much ones that are like....minmaxed

[hard goblet]

Then yeah, you're likely noticing weaknesses.

[wary osprey]

Had four instances where people were getting trapped around corners by trappers

or once through a doorframe, that was funny

[red anvil]

Your premade comp is weaker against certain hordes and stronger against others then

[wary osprey]

that was all tonight, too

[wary osprey]

Gunners and Flamers are 100% problems for us, lol

I make my builds focused around being able to horde clear and have good range so I can kill the snipers and shit because the others rarely have the kits for it

hadn't really thought about it before.

[hard goblet]

No Veteran?

[wary osprey]

We have one guy who likes to play Vet but yeah not a lot of our people like playing Veteran

[hard goblet]

They typically eat gunners, flamers, snipers, and such for breakfast with proper builds.

[wary osprey]

My entire zealot build is built around speed and flexibility

the new eviserator + columnus autogun/inexorable judgement + fury of the faithful

so I can zip around the team and put out fires

autogun is accurate enough to murder ranged dudes I'm just....usually neckdeep in a horde when it becomes a problem

[red anvil]

try the braced autogun especially agripinaa, they suit zealots a lot better and are just accurate enough to have a chance at dealing with snipers

[wary osprey]

I've been building one up so definitely gonna try that next

just not a fan of the "Hold me tight and I'll be more accurate" of braced autoguns lol

[red anvil]

You rarely have to brace

they can kill gunners and flamers up to 20m no problem unbraced. Just control the spread a bit

Fury of the faithful also buffs guns rate of fire for more dps

[hard goblet]

Bracing them is a trap frankly.

[wary osprey]

inexorable has been comedically funny to use with high ROF weapons

[hard goblet]

Just control the spread and that's really it. And the spread isn't too terrible to manage.

[red anvil]

the few times I braced is when trying to countersnipe snips

[wary osprey]

can we post media here....

There we go

what I can get with my current autogun, 20 stacks of keystone, and F

I have dumdum and firefrenzy on it as well

Would that be even better with an autogun?

errr braced

[red anvil]

Usually yes

[wary osprey]

alright, time to roll one and see how it goes

Thank you all for the feedback 😄

[red anvil]

braced trade accuracy for more dps

I usually chainsaw crushers with fury, one shots and no ammo consumed. The autogun ifself is for most ranged targets thats too hard to get close to

[minor marsh]

what's honestly the absolute best for destroying those shield things from bosses?

[signal apex]

The twins? Rev it up with an eviscerator or have an ogryn with those fold shovels

[red anvil]

Anything chainsaw and high volumes of bullets

melee shield is weak to range. Range shield is weak to melee

[minor marsh]

hrm ;o oh what

I did not know this

Do they have diff properties>

[signal apex]

You really want an ogryn with those foldable shovel and taunt

[minor marsh]

I see

[signal apex]

Cuz damn the shovel deals so much

[minor marsh]

to be honest I had a little build

with my zealot

[signal apex]

Plus if they manage to taunt both twins you and some other 2 can focus on rodin

[minor marsh]

just a normal charge F + chain axe rev and shield insta dropped

[signal apex]

While the ogryn focuses on rinda

[minor marsh]

So that was pretty cool to see!

Just wondered if other classes had something similar

so Ogryn has shovel

does Veteran have like a weapon that can bring the melee shield down quickly?

[signal apex]

Slab shield is really good too cuz of their special shield block that makes them immune infinitely

[signal apex]

Yeaa

Use the new chain axe

[minor marsh]

Ah, Range weapon?

[signal apex]

Rev it up and rev up their shields

Anything that melts health quickly

[minor marsh]

Just wondering if there is any haha

[signal apex]

I say the braceguns

Agripnaa specifically

You could also like

Use the helbores too

[minor marsh]

Seriously helbores o.O? Did not expect them

[signal apex]

Cuz for whatever reason their bayonets almost deal the same as doing a rev'd heavy

[minor marsh]

lool what?!

[signal apex]

But I haven't tried it yet in damnation but soon enough I will

[minor marsh]

OH

I thought this was in secret hard mode

lool

[signal apex]

Secret hard mode ehh

It can be applied

So long as there's coordination

[minor marsh]

Yeeee

there is none

hahaha

not in pubs

[signal apex]

So far it's best to have 2 ogryns with either shield and fold shovel (one of them having taunt and the other bull rush) one zealot with either the holy relic stun or shroudfield and a vet with his shouting ability thag can revive teammates

Pyskers are optional but they are really great in dealing the hordes

And don't forget team coordination

[minor marsh]

Thank you for the hints 🙂

[signal apex]

People may disagree with me but if it works it works

[hard goblet]

Melee twin's shields are weak to ranged. Ranged twin's shields are weak to melee.

[minor marsh]

Yeah Kill did say that 🙂

what about captain TorBjorn

he seems to be weak against nothing lol

Bruh captain torbjorn is a god

[signal apex]

Shroudfield thunderhammering zealots with incendiary grenades

[minor marsh]

Yeee gl with that

his shields top notch

I took off like 1/10th lol

not even

[cursive magnet]

Are Maniacs the dudes who two axes?

[minor marsh]

ye

eh fudge it

i cant seem to maximize shield dmg on these twins

many ways

but not a good way.

[mighty inlet]

those are ragers but they have the maniac armor type. mutants, trappers, and flamers also count as maniac

[verbal glacier]

Can you score critical hits against the Karnak twins' refractor fields?

[shut pawn]

does the twins skip vanish after you complete the hardmode ? i teste on a pub and it wasnt there

[odd fox]

is this a bug?

[hard goblet]

The doors open after the Twins taunt you telling you which sub level they're on.

[slender echo]

Anyone have any good suggestions for damnation hard mode twins? Specifically weapons/curio loadouts?

[tepid skiff]

it's a team effort. decide on your role first, then build for it.

the best choice is whatever you're most comfortable with for killing maulers, ragers and crushers, since waves of those are the biggest threat and failure point.

(flak ragers specifically, since that entire mission is scab only)

[narrow storm]

I Made a guide on steam. I just had an idea and today from this discord i got 3 other guy and i asked them to bring what i have in my mind. Worked.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114430104

[buoyant hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_qB78URh0A&ab_channel=Hank

[near pawn]

So far me and the randos I've played w have hardly chipped their health

[sturdy mortar]

Do the Karnak twins also count as Flak Armor=

?

or are they just unyielding?

[quick remnant]

gameslantern has a full list of their armour types

[frosty star]

IIRC blessings transfer between different weapons marks yeah?

[quick remnant]

Different weapon marks of the same weapon

[frosty star]

ye ye like the infintry lasguns transfer

but they wouldnt transfer to the hellbore ones

[quick remnant]

Yes, and they are account wide

[frosty star]

got ya wanted to make sure thnks

[quick remnant]

Basically this #gameplay-help message

[simple merlin]

If someone did already hard mode and we jump directly to the boss. Do we also get the penance or do we need to do all the bells again?

[alpine egret]

Are twins considered monstrosities?

[signal apex]

Maybe

[green fjord]

Hey fellas, what can I change bout this gun to make it better?

Running it on vet

[hard goblet]

Yes. Their bodies are unyielding but have flak armor. Heads are carapace.

[storm snow]

How long is the twin gonna last ?

[signal apex]

Depends on your team coordination

And if you meant how long it's gonna stay

We dont know