gameplay-help

[twilit sentinel]

I what does power cycled do?

Also it says I’m learning a blessing whenever I sacrifice a weapon,but when I go to apply the blessing I learned,all the slots still have a question mark on them.

[fervent ridge]

Power cycler lets you do additional charged swings on powersword before having to reactivate it

It's the best blessing on Psword and one of the most coveted blessings in the game

[twilit sentinel]

Anyway I can target that?

[fervent ridge]

What this allows you to do as Vet is to chain heavies back to back to back and singlehandedly delete a horde if you're playing normal Damnation or below

No, you have to get lucky (gambling) with it via either consecrating a bunch of powerswords, getting a lucky drop from Emperor's Gift, or have it show up at the Melks' Daily Acquisitions

[twilit sentinel]

Can you help me figure this out?

[fervent ridge]

Can you send a screenshot of what that looks like at the Blessings screen

[pastel plinth]

it works kinda like skyrim's enchanting system if you've ever played skyrim

[twilit sentinel]

Never made it to at far into Skyrim

[pastel plinth]

rip

[twilit sentinel]

I’m gonna boot up the game and send a screen shot

[fervent ridge]

You got a book of scrolls with unlearnt spells of levels 1 to 4, each sacrifice you make to the altar permanently unlocks that spell for future use from the corresponding tier 1-4 pages, you just click on one you already unlocked and pay a fee to change the blessing

But it has to be specifically for that weapon

If you unlock Brutal Momentum on a Combat Axe it will NOT appear in your Powersword page

Both of those weapons have access to Brutal Momentum but the blessing will be counted independently of one another if you sac one to earn the blessing

[twilit sentinel]

Thank you for the explanation

[minor bison]

is there an option to block crossplatform play ?

[floral vessel]

does it shares between characters if weapons are universal between classes?

[fervent ridge]

account wide

[floral vessel]

thanks

[stark ibex]

Question: how important is it to have toughness regen on curios now? Or would it just be better to replace it? I heard that the regen itself got gutted or something

[full kindle]

The abhor the mutant penance for zealot says "kill a mutant while dashing with chastise the wicked" but will it still count if I use the augmented version?

[marsh widget]

can you modify a modified blessing or is it just locked?
Like can i slap a level 2 blessing on something and then put the same blessing but level 3 later?

[fervent ridge]

yea you can do that

[marsh widget]

ty ❤️

[stark ibex]

You could also utilized the special action from the eviscerator and then use chastise the wicked on the mutant to get the penance. That’s at least how I got mine anyways

Or use a thunder hammer

[full kindle]

That's what I had been doing and it didn't work

[stark ibex]

Hm, weird

Not even the hammer worked?

[full kindle]

Nope

I just need to keep trying

[stark ibex]

I wish you luck my friend o7

[grim berry]

I know the autopistol was supposed to be really good last patch, but has anyone found any success using it after the update? got this in sire melks shop for my psyker and was wondering whether or not i should pick it up

[fervent ridge]

Pistol is fine

PinningFire is still BiS blessing here

you want Blaze Away as 2nd blessing

Keep 20 Flak, reroll Unarmo to 25 Maniac

This is an amazing base to work off of, you are very close to the perfect shredder

[fervent ridge]

Some may suggest keeping 25 Unarm and reroll 20 flak to 25 flak but Flak/Maniac are the biggest threats in Damnation+ so that's what I'd get

[grim berry]

alright thanks v much for the in depth breakdown

[unkempt jay]

I was wondering if Psyker's brain burst can crit?

[ionic gate]

Where do I find the new pearl necklace cosmetic? 🤓

[tough vessel]

all i need is a plague ogryn to stop the charge of smh

keeps giving me daemonhosts

[balmy warren]

no it cant crit

[rigid wasp]

Hi, just wondering how do you achieve "don't stop me now" with the new ogryn trees, haven't played it yet with the new skills

[tough vessel]

you can still get the increased range perk, but you need psykers with cooldown reduction i think

[frigid sierra]

Hey I have a question. Just before the new patch I was trying to get the old Ogryn penances but now with the new update and the change to all abilities I don't think I can mechanically do it anymore. Is Darktide going to rework the old penances or does someone know a way how these can be done?

[jovial kernel]

Something that's left on the screen, i can hear on the right side and the other way around and so on

[slim pendant]

what is the highest curio blessing rating?

[fossil anvil]

hello! can anybody explain to me how can I know what perk would suit best for a specific or certain weapon? like, what do you guys normally do in order to determine which perks should a weapon have or that would be just a better match for the weapon itself

[hard goblet]

Very generally speaking, you should look at a weapon and determine what its strengths are. What's its intended engagement range? What armor type does it deal more damage or less damage against? When will I be using this weapon?

Then selecting perks that allow you to play to its strengths against the enemy types its suited for and the armor type you expect it to hit more often/gives you the most trouble.

[fossil anvil]

I see, thank you. So, in order to understand a bit better, would you mind telling me what perks should you choose for this ?

[hard goblet]

I would if I had experience with that weapon. Ogryn chat #ogryn-class may offer more tailored advice.

Generally on Ogryn your melee weapons are for horde control.

Infested poxwalkers and unarmoured groaners usually are squishy enough that you don't need dedicated perks to deal with them.

Which leaves flak armor and maniacs.

[fossil anvil]

I see, well thank you very much!!

[formal atlas]

Maelstrom missions, do they count as a mission type?

[balmy warren]

as whatever mission the particular map is

[full kindle]

Can someone explain what auric level is?

[balmy warren]

missions that always have hard modifiers like shock troop gauntlet or high-intensity

[full kindle]

I'm assuming they offer better rewards because of it?

[hard goblet]

It's not really all that much better for the amount of time it takes if you're looking to farm plasteel.

[balmy warren]

same rewards for plasteel, a lot more ordo dockets though

[weak venture]

if I unlock a perk on a different class, do I have it on the others?

[balmy warren]

weapon blessing you mean? yes

but keep in mind that the same blessing only applies to its own class of weapons

so headhunter for swords will not unlock headhunter for axes

[hard goblet]

Blessings are shared across classes. Perks are not.

And blessings are weapon variant specific.

[weak venture]

If I get blaze away on the ogryn cannon, do I get it for zealot flamer?

[hard goblet]

No.

[weak venture]

but for why

[hard goblet]

Because Fatshark designed the game that way.

[balmy warren]

i dont know

just how it is

[hard goblet]

If you unlock a blessing for the MG XII lasgun, it's only available to be applied to other MG XII lasguns.

That's how Fatshark gets you to play longer.

[balmy warren]

i believe it would be for all kantrael lasguns

not just the mg12

[weak venture]

And I thought the grind was already a bit excessive

[hard goblet]

Earn Blessing

You can now extract a Blessing from a weapon in your inventory, which will sacrifice the weapon in the process. After extracting the Blessing, you will earn the permanent ability to use this Blessing on another weapon of the same mark. Earned Blessings are shared between all characters on your account.

Re-Bless Weapon

You can now change a Blessing on a weapon, by swapping out an existing Blessing on a weapon with one of your earned Blessings. Each weapon pattern has unique Blessings available to them, and you can only swap these with Blessings belonging to the same pattern.

According to the patch notes, it's weapon variant specific.

[balmy warren]

i dont know if this patch changed anything but thats how it worked before. any blessing extracted from a turtolsky mk9 would work on any of the other turtle swords

[hard goblet]

Oh wait

Did you mean for-

Ah ok.

I see.

[balmy warren]

for the same class of weapon

so all turtolsky swords. not all swords like chainsword

i think theres an exception for voidstrike staff

that one doesnt seem to share other staff blessings

[woeful root]

all staffs don't share blessings since they're all part of different families

it's just not intuitive for force staffs because there only exists one variant of each family so far

[carmine siren]

What should I know about Penances? What do they do?

[balmy warren]

ah ok

[tight mulch]

just got this on my veteran, what should i change on it?

[balmy warren]

theyre just achievements

some of them give cosmetics and unique frames

nice rolls on that, im not super familiar with veteran though, try the veteran channel

[carmine siren]

Ok thanks

[tight mulch]

ok

[unreal oxide]

if i earn a blessing on a heavy stubber, can i use that blessing on any heavy stubber or only the same mk

[balmy warren]

any stubber

[crimson quiver]

Do auras stack if two players have the same one? (Two Vets having survivalist for instance)

[fluid sequoia]

are the servers trash for any of you?

[open sedge]

what are max health/tough rolls on curios?

[worthy flint]

The big part of a curio, the blessing, can go to 21% Health and 17% Toughness. They can also sport an extra 5% Health/Toughness with the perks.

[hard goblet]

21% for Health. 17% for Toughness.

[open sedge]

yea, that's what i figured but stuff online was saying 25 so i just wanted to be sure i wasn't uber unlucky or something lol

[proven lion]

can anyone help me with the monstronum malleus penance

[undone prawn]

I also need help with penances

sorry to just barge in

[lofty blaze]

i just got the game, would someone like to show me the ropes in about 20 mins

[snow berry]

I can if someone else hasn't already offered

[lofty blaze]

youd be the first

game is installed

[snow berry]

There should be a quick tutorial mission for you to play through when you first get on then afterwards I can join you

Once you're done with that pop me your steam name and I'll add you

[lofty blaze]

steam name is my overall discord username not the nickname

[snow berry]

Alrighty just sent an fr - Corroshi

[lofty blaze]

done

[snow berry]

Not letting me invite you as apparently you're still in prologue, can you try popping me one?

[rigid wasp]

Best 2 perks on Voidstrike Staff and Duelling Sword on Psyker?

[drifting gale]

#psyker-class

[past gull]

anyone else getting backend error?

[naive ledge]

Yeah

Just came in here to see if anything was being said about it

[past gull]

same

[hard goblet]

Yes.

[alpine kayak]

any ogryn with shield can help me with a penances ?

[fervent ridge]

Keep hitting spacebar until it lets you in

took me about 10 minutes of spamming

[past gull]

bet

[fervent ridge]

Just ok each time the Error Signing in msg appears

[orchid zinc]

does anyone know which keybinding is set to the skipping of the post game rewards screens? used to be able to press Space to skip it all but since update its no longer possible so wondering if its set to a keybind or something

[fervent ridge]

For some inexplicable reason Fatshark changed the skip button to be Enter

Which overlaps with opening chat

so no, there is no skip button

spamming enter postgame will keep opening the chatbox for a minute and a half

while you and 3 other guys sit there looking like idiots

Been happening to everybody

[vernal plaza]

Theres a mod that change it back to space
Or left click the enter button in screen

[versed tendon]

Does anyone know how to get a sight on the Lucius MkIII Helbore Lasgun ?

[hard goblet]

You'd have to use a mod.

[quick remnant]

There is a mod for it

[versed tendon]

like is there no legit sight and is modding allowed??

does anyone know the name of the mod then?

[quick remnant]

#📌communities modding discord, its allowed but there is no sight from base

[versed tendon]

thank you for the help by the way

[azure tinsel]

What’s the best way to farm mats? I’m more pressed for plasteel personally…

[quick remnant]

Harder diff.

[azure tinsel]

That’s it? No shit like “oh well t2 would give more cause you can do them faster with less risk” nothin like that? @quick remnant

[woeful root]

you get markedly more mats on damnation than heresy

i'd spam low-ints and/or linear short maps like magistrati, consignment, etc.

[azure tinsel]

What about compared to aurick levels? @woeful root

[woeful root]

modifiers don't affect mats, so no difference there

just difficulty affects it

[azure tinsel]

Exp still worthless?

[woeful root]

yeah if you're already at lvl30

[azure tinsel]

So just do normal T5’s and cherry pick maps when possible and ignore auric levels?

[woeful root]

mhm

the auric mission board just means that hi-intensity is guaranteed

so i'd run hi-int magistrati since the map is relatively easy (besides the potential sketchiness of the area below the midevent)

[azure tinsel]

Would low intensity be better higher priority than map selection?

[woeful root]

hmm

it depends probably

i don't have a clear sense on it either, but I personally would run magistrati over other low-ints if the low-int map is annoying

like the throneside maps that aren't archivum

maps that have little to no backtracking for mats

and with side paths that lead back onto the main path

[azure tinsel]

Prob safer but I guess with those two things in account should why ignore mission type while we’re at it. Investigations suck

[woeful root]

oh yeah hab dreyko is where mat farmers go to die (and where docket farmers live)

sycorax is fine since the investigation is only at the finale and in a less claustrophobic space without 10000 walls between you

[azure tinsel]

Got any tips for dockets or same thing?

[woeful root]

well they fixed hab dreyko i believe hmm

roughly the same thing but with a less strict condition on the side paths and whatnot

for dockets you'll want to play the highest difficulty + modifier that you can reliably clear in a decently fast pace

hi-int power supply interruptions are one of the best if you're comfortable with melee

since it's basically just hi-int but you can't see and the enemies have a much shorter aggro range

so if you're good at rushing enemies down in melee, hi-int power supply is free money (besides teammates aggroing DHs)

if you're an Assail psyker, hunting grounds is free money

[azure tinsel]

I’m a lvl 63 infiltrator but I’ll keep that in mind

And for blessings just upgrade to rare and not bother with legendary right?

[woeful root]

i'd say so esp if you're short on mats

[azure tinsel]

That’s my conundrum XD

[woeful root]

yeah I don't think there's been any statistical analysis about your chances of whether you have a higher chance of getting higher tier blessing when upgrading to orange

upgrading to only blue is quite a lot cheaper though if you have a bunch of high rating weapons around

but you'll only have a bunch of high-rating greys around if you had a lot of dockets

so it's either [high docket usage + low mat usage by upgrading a bunch of weapons to blue] or [low docket usage + high mat usage by upgrading a bunch of weapons to orange]

a bit of a balancing act there

[azure tinsel]

Got like 20 grey kantrael mk12’s Lying around

Oh curios

They got rid of the toughness DR on them right?

[woeful root]

there hasn't been toughness DR on curios; at least since launch at least

maybe in the betas but not post-launch

[azure tinsel]

Coulda sworn end of 22’ had em

Anyway got any good ways to get curios? They feel impossible

Tryna roll 20% toughness but it’s ridiculous

[woeful root]

17% tough is the current max for toughness curios

21% hp, 1 wound, 3 stam

curios are basically just camping the shop

[azure tinsel]

Weird I was seein places like game lanterns sayin 20% toughness, 25% health

[woeful root]

prob cuz we're capped at around 80% of stats right now

[azure tinsel]

What’s up with that?

[woeful root]

room for improvement with future stuff, i suppose

[azure tinsel]

Thanks for all your help man

[dry spire]

How long is it until the next cosmetic shop reset?

[slim citrus]

so ive come back after ages and finally decided to level a veteran, just finished my first mission and got like 4 weapons but now im out the mission and i only got 1? did i unlock the weapons for purchase or something?

[warm nebula]

Yeah, the “emperor’s gift” is only 1 weapon. Presumably if you did a hard mission and earned multiple levels, you may have unlocked the ability to purchase more than one weapon at the requisition store

[slim citrus]

yeah i just got like 3 level unlocks at once i just saw an image of a weapon and skipped lmao

we have any idea if the xbox players can see the text chat?

[wanton pine]

Which class is the best

[slim citrus]

the one u find the most fun

[delicate warren]

Too early to tell.

New patch shaked things up.

[queen slate]

any tips for 'prioritize targets' psyker penence... never used G (bb) even before update... but i want that mask... right now using purgatus... 2 runs and i was only able to kill 1 specialist with bb... is there some way to avoid using G it leaves me wide open and i fk up my team also i missclick and fail...

[solemn gate]

Does fire damage over time count as ranged damage

[past grove]

Does anyone know how to avoid losing game connection? I cannot connect to the server even though my network is normal

[loud sparrow]

Does anyone know how I can invite a friend from Xbox to my game on PC. I cant seem to find the friend code anywhere on the Xbox account

[fervent ridge]

Socials tab should have the Fatshark code

[loud sparrow]

Thanks I figured it out. Didnt see that while in the Socials menu you still had to Press X lol

[lucid goblet]

quick question is there a way to save your skill tree loadouts?
I know about the loadout feature in the top right corner but it doesn't seem to save the skill tree?

[long crypt]

Is it a known bug that when inviting friends to strike teams sometimes it shows them in my group but it shows them selecting operative so they have to be the one to select a mission to start because it's blocked for me

[fervent ridge]

it ought to save the skill tree

[lucid goblet]

Yeah I figured it out just now lol
I get how it works now
ty 🙏

[fervent ridge]

🙏

hell yea

[lucid goblet]

Ogryn make lots of killing loadouts for puny heretics

[open sedge]

damnation plasteel is the highest right? or is the diam ratio so fucked that something like heresy or malice is better. i haven't been paying attention to how much i get on each diff

[fiery jewel]

which build from The Ogrynomicon is good for a krieg ogryn?

[slim citrus]

something ive never figured out with this game is why theres like 3 diff versions of every gun, im trying out 3 different versions of the helbore lasgun and i can barely tell a difference between them

slightly different fire rate? should i even care about the what version it is and just focus on stats/power level

[hard goblet]

Damnation is ideal.

[hard goblet]

The Helbore mk 3 has the slowest charge rate time and hits the hardest. The inspect menu via the V key is your friend.

[slim citrus]

i wanted 2 assume this but using them all in the training range thingy and there all somehow hitting for 225 right now

all have the same kill thresholds on various specials

if there is a difference its so tiny i legit cant notice it

[hard goblet]

Try shooting something with more health.

[slim citrus]

The V kis is infact my friend now though ty for that

[slim citrus]

i went through almost all specials i really dont see a difference

[polar niche]

I know this might not be a thing to do in a public game, but if I was to play with 3 people in a private game, on malice difficulity and die right at the start as a veteran, would it be possible for me to complete the "On Overwatch" penance if they never rescue me and beat the mission then?

[hard goblet]

What difficulty were you testing the grinder on?

[slim citrus]

3

the one im currently playing as my vet is like level 11

[hard goblet]

Try 5 and you'll start seeing more differences. At malice, the helbores won't have any different breakpoints.

[slim citrus]

so ur saying until i start playing on damnation the different mk's of a weapon are meaningless

[hard goblet]

I assume you mean the falling off the map exploit?

As far as I know it should still work?

[slim citrus]

also the V key thing as far as i can tell for the helbore atleast the descriptions are all identical

[polar niche]

yes, if i just fall off the map right away and get the 3 others to finish it without rescuing me

[hard goblet]

If you hover over the stat bars and note the numbers, you'll see differences.

[polar niche]

i will give it a go at sometime and just see if it still works

[hard goblet]

For Helbores at least in this context, most likely. I haven't tested them at Heresy 4 difficulty so I can’t say for sure.

[fierce tree]

what are the height ranges for human charecters example:4'-7'

[fleet cypress]

would this be the channel to talk over gun stats ?

i got two laspistols and i'm not sure which is more worth upgrading

[fervent ridge]

Send it

Let's see those stats

[fleet cypress]

they aren't like

amazing

at least i think

i'm usually an ogryn player

[fervent ridge]

Left side is better here because of the perks, you can reroll the 5 crit to 25 maniac or 25 unarmoured, rip Infernus off the right side pistol

and if you upgrade left to gold and the 2nd blessing blows you can graft infernus back onto it so you get two good perks and both blessings

[fleet cypress]

alrighty that sounds like a plan , ty

what are the two blessings i'd ideally want , if not between the eyes ?

i'll grab infernus off the right one rq

[fervent ridge]

@fickle gyro Please advise

[sharp merlin]

yeah I'm having that bug but on zealot

[fickle gyro]

Laspistol? Dumdum / Infernus / Ghost are all solid choices

[fleet cypress]

Sounds good , thank ya

[fair ore]

Do you get any bonus rewards for killing the daemonhost?

Or is it always better to skip when able?

[hard goblet]

There's no bonus for killing it.

It's the same premise as the witch from Left 4 Dead.

It's an obstacle the team needs to adjust for and avoid, and an "oh shit" punishment if you aggro it.

[graceful scarab]

is there a way to see which mission types youve completed on which difficulties?

cause im 6/7 for the penance on zealot and im trying to see which one im missing

[spring flax]

If you've ONLY played as a Zealot you can check the Mission tab in Penances, and it'll show 0/50 completed beside each of the seven mission types.

If like me, you've already done that on your Ogryn and then need to do it on your Zealot... gotta make a text file :/

[twilit sentinel]

Does every class get something that space marines are known for using, like how vets can use bolt guns,chain/power swords?

[rocky copper]

psykers get...psyker powers. Ogryns get box of grenades. Does that count?

Thunderhammer for Zealot

[chrome shale]

The boltguns in game are not the same as Astartes ones. In-lore I'm pretty certain Astartes bolters are illegal to be even touched by men (citation needed), but I do know that the Astartes boltguns have far too much recoil for a person. So, in-game, you get a baby boltgun. Still fires bolts, though.

The Zealot and Veteran have access to the bolter. Veterans get power swords (Guardsmen officers can use these, not just Astartes)

Astartes Librarians use thunder hammers, but that's not unique to Marines either.

[twilit sentinel]

So canonically,a veteran would never use a bolt gun

Ohhhh

You are saying it’s illegal for specifically the space marine ones

Gotcha

[rocky copper]

Also it wouldn't really matter since they literally would break their arms/body attempting to shoot it.

More likely to use lasgun, that's what guardsmen usually use IIRC.

[twilit sentinel]

But every class does have access to a normal human more underpowered version of what a space marine can use?

[candid gyro]

not every weapon but most, like we're probably not going to be lugging assault cannons anytime soon

[rocky copper]

More accurate would be every space marine has access to more overpowered versions of what a normal human can use.

[twilit sentinel]

I’m not asking lore wise I’m talking about gameplay,does every class I can play have access to a underpowered version of what a space marine can use.

[hard goblet]

It's not really a 1:1 comparison like that.

[twilit sentinel]

Know how vets can use a power sword?

[rocky copper]

....you're literally asking lore wise lol.
Yes

[twilit sentinel]

No I’m not

[rocky copper]

Space marines can use terminator armor. Basically power sword but stronger

Lightning claws, lightning gauntlets, power fist, etc. All are much stronger versions of vet's power sword.

[hard goblet]

If you're asking about whether the classes in the game can use an underpowered version of "what a space marine can use", you're asking about what space marines can use first and foremost in the setting.

If you're asking about the game itself, it'd just be about what weapons the Veteran, Zealot, Psyker, and Ogryn can use.

[twilit sentinel]

You know what

Nvm

Took my question the wrong way and now you even got me confused

[hard goblet]

Not really sure what's confusing about it.

[rocky copper]

aye .-.

[hard goblet]

Power swords, thunder hammers, bolters, flamers, etc. are all available in Darktide.

There are currently no meltas, long las, las/auto cannons.

[rocky copper]

Also in lore, there are weapons that are too powerful for space marines to wield

Those need powered armor/titans to use.

[twilit sentinel]

Does a space marine use more powerful versions of that.

[hard goblet]

A long las weapon thumbnail image and an melta gun thumbnail image are in the game's files.

[rocky copper]

Yes

[twilit sentinel]

All I wanted to know

[hard goblet]

Yes. Sometimes "more powerful" just means larger in size.

[rocky copper]

A large part of the space marine armor is to let them use even bigger guns.

And if that's not enough, they build titans.

To get even BIGGER guns.

[hard goblet]

There are weapon variants produced specifically for space marine physiques/armor suits to wield.

[rocky copper]

Can has Volcano Cannon when? ^(.-.)^

[radiant mulch]

What stats should I be looking for in curios as a veteran?

Im asking cause idk if buying this is worth or not

I got 2 purple curios and one blue one on me rn

Anything is probably an upgrade but knowing what to look for would be nice

[woeful cobalt]

what does precision bonus mean??? theres a precision bonus in disrupt destiny node in the psyker talents.

does it just make me more accurate?

[half cave]

Can anyone explain how the weapons work like in my requisition there's a melee weapon that has 47% damage but its attacks do less damage than my lower rated and lower tier weapon the other ones make sense like penetration and mobility are obvious but damage makes literally 0 sense also this is my first Warhammer game

If something is higher rated shouldn't it technically be better?

[woeful root]

"Precision Bonus" is explained below in the description --

[hard goblet]

The inspect menu is your friend here. You can press V to inspect weapons in your inventory.

The description there also notes that each weapon's rating is only relative to other weapons within the same variant family.

You can hover over the stat bars inside the inspect menu for more information also.

[elder gull]

How do I invite a friend on xbox game pass to play with me when I'm on steam?

[candid gyro]

under >social >find player there's a menu for locating your own friend code, and an input box for other people's codes

[rocky copper]

noob question, what's the best way to get T4 blessings?

....that limited time shop or do I just upgrade blue/green/grays till yellow?

[hard goblet]

Consecrating weapons that have at least a 360 base rating.

And looking at Melk's Limited Offerings.

[rocky copper]

Wait, it has to be at least 360?

[hard goblet]

The higher the base rating, the better the chances. Too low though (not sure of the exact value) and it's not possible to roll high tier blessings.

[rocky copper]

oh

[hard goblet]

All my attempts found the cutoff to be somewhere around there so I chose 360 to be safe.

Realistically, your only consistent faucet of high base rating weapons will be from Brunt's Armory.

[rocky copper]

It's like the hunt for reds in vermintide all over again. Dx

[hard goblet]

Only worse.

[dapper robin]

Bruh lmao the new cosmetics literally clip into once another. XD

[hard goblet]

Sounds like you're just clutching pearls, friend.

[dapper robin]

Huh?

The Militarum Dress grays from the Commissar set pair really well with the top imo.

[hard goblet]

Oh it's a reference to a comment one of the community managers here made. #general-chat message

I was making a joke about the valid concerns/complaints about the value of Aquilas and the level of care put into the premium cosmetics.

[dapper robin]

Oh

Dude I wish they would just release a cool militarum themed set for the Zealot. 🥺

[hard goblet]

They're not too bad. Though with fancy knee pads like that I'd expect the helmet to be the gold trimmed one.

[dapper robin]

I can't afford that one yet lmao.

Sometimes their bundle choices kinda perplex me..

Like this bundle I bought ages ago.

The backpack included with it isn't even the same color as the set like huh?

They're even LABELED as different camos Rust Camo backpack to Sun Scorch camo uniform like how did they mess that up.

[elder gull]

Thanks

[cunning inlet]

is every build viable for the hardest content? im 100% jumping the gun bc im lvl 13 but idk if i should research builds or not. i also gravitate towards the meta so if so lmk 🫡

[fervent ridge]

Suggest a build

I'll let you know if it's decent

[cunning inlet]

ight

zealot pure left side with eviserator is all i kinda wanna do

idk enough to pick a build either. like what stats are good, toughness, crit chance, etc

[fervent ridge]

yea evis left side is fine, you want flak and maniac as your perks on evis and then ramapage + savage sweep

[cunning inlet]

🫡

should i be looking for those perks on other weapons as i lvl?

[fervent ridge]

for curios the most popular meta setups are 3x toughness or 3x health, but 2x toughness 1x health is also okay, for the perks you want 20% gunner resist / 20% sniper resist, flat toughness, flat health or toughness regeneration speed

any combination of that will constitute a 'good' curio

Yea flak and maniac are gonna be your best bet on 90% of melee and ranged weapons

bcs most enemies in the game are those two armor types

[cunning inlet]

right

ok ty

sounds obvious when i hear it

[dapper robin]

Holy crit chance

[sinful geyser]

How can I make a shovel as jacked as possible

[quaint hornet]

What is the signifcance of the different colored damage numbers in the Psykhanium? I've seen White damage numbers, Orange damage numbers, and Yellow damage numbers.

[rigid wasp]

White is a bodyshot, yellow is a crit and orange is a headshot

[flint knot]

anyone keen to help me speedrun a heresy mission for just a flesh wound penance ?

[coarse cave]

what counts as a sucseful dodge?

[half cave]

I'm on xbox tho

Oh wait nvm

It's just rs

Tysm

[rigid wasp]

Should be when you don't get hit specifically because you were in a dodge state

Similar to Dark Souls iframes

[cosmic wadi]

What does smite jump+1 mean?

[rigid wasp]

The amount of times the lightning jumps from enemy to enemy when you use smite

[fair lichen]

Hii hii, I'm confused, I have all curious that has wound, is there a limit on how many there is?

[hard goblet]

The most wounds a curio can have is +1.

[fair lichen]

Ohhh! Got you, one more thing, 9 is the limit for wounds yes?

I'm just thinking on how to make it 9.

[candid gyro]

lower difficulties give you bonus wounds

[fair lichen]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Got you

so no way I can get 9 on higher difficulties

Thank u! ^^ got it

[fervent ridge]

Max u can do is 7 on Damnation even with an All Wounds setup

So martyrdom is decent but a little under optimized atm

[dark comet]

Is there any known fix for the slide bind not working?

[twilit sentinel]

Why is that sometimes when I use a Medicae station and get rid of my corruption,the corruption will come back second by second.I thought medicae stations get rid of corruption?

[winter sequoia]

I had infernus 4 on a laspistol that I earned the blessing for and now im trying to put it on a recon lasgun and its not there

???

bought it and earned the blessing so where it at?

[warm nebula]

Someone in your squad is holding a Grimoire. In addition to a chunk of corruption when you pick up a Grim, as long as anyone in your squad is holding one, it gives you a little corruption per second. (This is why I take a Corruption Resist(Grims) curio perk in Quickplay)

[twilit sentinel]

Thank you,didn’t know that.

[warm nebula]

Sadly, you can’t apply blessings to different weapon types. You gotta find Infernus IV on a recon lasgun, before you can put it on another recon lasgun

[winter sequoia]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

🤮

bruh

why.

[fervent ridge]

You can only transfer blessings onto the same weapon

[warm nebula]

EnGaGeMeNt TiMe

[twilit sentinel]

Can you upgrade the level of a blessing? Or is it random?

[fervent ridge]

It isn't a universal unlock

It will be random

[winter sequoia]

-3000 money and all my upgrade stuff

[warm nebula]

JuSt GrInD MoRe BrO

[fervent ridge]

But if you consecrate high 360+ base rated greys you have a higher chance of scoring a T3 or t4 blessing

[twilit sentinel]

Also what’s the highest level a blessing can have

[fervent ridge]

Tier 4

[winter sequoia]

I had godroll gun and powersword

and have now gone completely bankrupt trying to replace them

[fervent ridge]

That's how they get you to keep playing the game

spending 20 to 50k plasteel finding Powercycler is not unheard of

[winter sequoia]

why make it weapon specific though

thats just cruel

making me re-spend it over and over

[fervent ridge]

I spent 40k plasteel to get Thrust and Slaughterer 4 on my thunderhammer, granted it also 1 shot bosses in Damnation now

Of course you can also get lucky from Emperor's Gift drops if you play T5 games, or from the Daily Acquisitions at Melks

[twilit sentinel]

Is essential to have a level 4 blessing or is level 2 or 3 acceptable?

[fervent ridge]

T3 blessing will suffice for most weapons but you really want T4 blessings to optimize your build to hit Maelstrom- this is not important if you are a casual player however because even no blessings weapons can easily clear damnation and below content

[rigid wasp]

3 is pretty fine, 2 is slightly undesirable but I think they made the gap smaller this patch

Ideally the difference between 2 and 4 now is less than it used to be

[twilit sentinel]

Ok so I at least want 3,got it.

[fervent ridge]

Also depends on the weapon because a few blessings only come in a single tier

i.e Focussed Channelling on Psyker Staves is capped at Tier 2 but the effect is still the same as if it would be Tier 4

blessings be funky like dat

[twilit sentinel]

Does power cycler come in multiple tiers?

[winter sequoia]

yup

[twilit sentinel]

Ofc

Of.

Course

When will the battle be over?

Is there any weapon that doesn’t have a must have blessing to be good?on veteran(i main vet)

[winter sequoia]

most weapons are "good" without but blessings make them very/insanely good

i.e infernus on recon

infernus: apply burn on headshot and the recon shoots 1000x per second

so it goes from good to an incinerator

[twilit sentinel]

What about plasma gun,if I want that to be good is there a must have blessing?

[rigid wasp]

Plasma gun is fairly agnostic, all things considered

Blaze away is the closest I can think of to the meta blessing, but you can get away with just rolling nice perks and clicking heads

[twilit sentinel]

What do you mean by agnostic

Do you mean it just has multiple options?

[rigid wasp]

I mean that even with blaze away being a good blessing for it, the gun doesn't become shit without it like some weapons do

Stuff like slaughterer making any weapon without it feel like the user is hitting a horde with a pool noodle

Fortunately they changed that a bit too

[winter compass]

Just wondering, how is XP calculated?

[twilit sentinel]

Once I’m level 30,might go for plasma,I think it looks cool.

[rigid wasp]

It's probably my favorite vet gun

Killing enemies through walls never gets old

[fervent ridge]

Plasma is very good scaling with your situational awareness and game knowledge, once you have some hours in and remember enemy spawn doors you can take advantage of plasma's penetration to wallbang elites before they even get on the screen

[sonic forge]

"plus cleave" "plus finesse damage" these words are not in the bible what on earth do they mean and actually do

[fervent ridge]

cleave increases the number of targets your weapon can swing through

more cleave = damage applied to more targets before the weapon gets stuck

finesse damage refers to the crit potential iirc

[sonic forge]

is the weapon getting stuck why it sometimes will start to feel sluggish

[woeful root]

Finesse is weakspot/crit damage

+60% Finesse Damage is equal to +60% Weakspot damage and +60% critical damage

[fervent ridge]

ye, if it starts feeling 'heavy' (?) lol

[sonic forge]

why don't they just use those words......

icic

tyty

[fervent ridge]

Wait until u hear about Rending

[scenic night]

Any tips on how to get Make Every Shot Count penance easy?

[sonic forge]

game too complicated i'm just gonna rev my evis and charge at the nearest plague ogryn and hope for the best

[amber root]

Use a low ammo weapon like a shotgun/revolver, empty your ammo on easy shots then swap to melee and never pull out your gun again in case someone on the team has the ammo regen aura. Bulwark shields count as a hit even if you do no damage, good way to up that accuracy

[twilit sentinel]

What is the max tier got gets hot blessing on the plasma gun?

Is it even worth it?

[amber spear]

anyone anble to help he get the malleus monstronum penance? just need someone to be in a lobby with to make it private

[scenic night]

Thanks. I tried doing the alt f4 trick, got back in with 2 shots, hit them and finished the map but didnt get it :/

[rigid bone]

any build guides for auric maelstrom?

[long citrus]

What's the proper way to use Plasma gun?
Like I heard somewhere that I'm supposed to just spam click, instead of charging it?

[amber root]

They might have fixed that interaction with the new patch. Not being forced into +ammo and ammo replenishment abilities should make it easier to get it "legit". Good luck!

[twilit sentinel]

Are you allowed to re-bless a gun twice?

[warm nebula]

Only if you don’t change any of the perks

You can change 2 of the four (perks&blessings)

And no, you can’t double-stack the same blessing (or IV+III)

[twilit sentinel]

Is it rare to get a stat total of 380?

[warm nebula]

Yes. You do get a fair amount of 360+, but exactly 380 is quite Rare

If you have a 360 with the right “dump” stat, it’s good enough

Watch Hadron refuse to put the good blessings on it every time, tho

[twilit sentinel]

Is 370 good too?

[fervent ridge]

Yes since it's higher than 360

But really it depends*

send a screenshot of the weapon

the stat distribution is more important than the overall rating once you cross the 350 mark

as most weapons have a dump stat or two you can afford to have shit rolls in

[amber root]

A charged shot is 9 ammo (standard shot is 3) and significantly overkills most non-Ogryn enemies. Spam standard shots also get more from blaze away, one of the really good plasma gun blessings. The above is especially true if you run talents that give better ranged damage like Focus Fire. Basically charged shots are ammo inefficient against most enemies that aren't Crushers since one or two normal shots still kill your target.

[long citrus]

So basically... Get Blaze away, spam shot for regulars. But only charged for Ogryns? I tried Plasma once at release, and the overheat mechanic was unbearable for me, even though I started out as Psyker. I just tested it in mission, and it seems a lot better now? Came to close call twice at 99% / 100%. Somehow didn't blow myself up, did they remove that? Or I just lucked out?

PS. Currently it has T3 Gloryhunter / T3 Gets Hot! And I only have a T3 Blaze Away. Which should I replace? And should I wait till I have a T4 Blaze Away, or is T3 more than enough?

[twilit sentinel]

What does the tactical axe special attack do?

Also how do I know a plasma gun shot is fully charged?

How do I know I’m charging it at all?

[long citrus]

Oh yea that too. Is bracing charging? Or am I supposed to hold and release? (Haven't tried holding the fire button)

[amber root]

Blaze Away is only tier 3 so no need to wait! It's pretty hard to blow yourself up. I think you need to try to fire at 100%, or fire while the vent animation is going. Last time I exploded was months ago so I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics

Mouse 2 is charging, yes. Sound cues is the best way to tell, there's something like a click when the shot is fully charged. You can also watch your heat meter since charging uses a lot more bar than holding the charged shot, like a Psyker staff

[twilit sentinel]

I’m on Xbox,is mouse 2 right trigger?

the shoot button?

[amber root]

It's alt fire like bringing up the sights on other guns

You charge by holding alt fire then shoot with your usual button

[long citrus]

Thank you so much for your help @amber root ! Much appreciated

[coral violet]

how do i improve this one

[amber root]

Happy to help, it's a slow day at work!

[amber root]

And regarding blessings, both Gloryhunter and Gets Hot are good. My plasma build runs the middle tree after focus fire so I use Gloryhunter to maximize the toughness regen I share with my team but that's down to preference

[grave ocean]

What perks should I give this guy

[long citrus]

Plasma Vet's role is just to anti-special units right?
Also I sorta went 40/60 (Left 60, middle 40) after Volley FIre, just cause I felt like I needed to reach the +25% ammo, just to not eat every single ammo pick up I see

*Actually now reviewing the middle tree, and thinking how Plasma play plays out, it seems middle tree makes more sense...Thank you for bringing that up!

[amber root]

That was my thinking when I made the build, dedicated special and elite killer. It's not uncommon to kill 4+ elites in a few seconds so Confirmed Kill/Born Leader made a lot of sense. It's tough to give up 25% ammo though, you're right. I have to get melee more often to save ammo compared to before the patch

[slim citrus]

am i missing something or are shotguns like comically bad? like its fine i dont expect all the weapons 2 be same level of useful but godamm this thing can barely kill any specials point blank

[frosty phoenix]

Hello guys, I have a question: On Heresy difficulty(4) what is the max item score you can get?

[split ibex]

is there a builds channel for darktide? or is this the build channel?

[fervent ridge]

Which shotgun model

[steep violet]

guys i need some guidance - which one is a better one to max out - right or left ...
Will having lower collateral help as it causes less stagger ?

[twilit sentinel]

How often does each class get cosmetics?

[fringe gale]

Does the 15% corruption resistance not apply to grimoires? Since the other perk needs to specify grimiores

[dawn furnace]

Resuuply Allies penance stopped progressing for me. It was working perfectly fine slowly crawling to 4438/5000 with Survivalist Aura on. And then it spopped. 6 missions and 0 progress. Switched aura, re-logged few times. Nothing no progress. What to do?

6 missions in row? Nope

One thing left is to try - is not to take any aura nodes and try basic Scavenger aura to work

with a tons of unused points

They replace Aura so there will be no ammo regen

Yes we are. And we also do that by defauls without any nodes

[tall grove]

where do i submit a bug report?

just had an assassination mission go awry because the 3 members that died got spawned at the beginning of the map before the boss fight

[rocky copper]

Is it true that only 360 and above items can get T4 blessings? (.-.)

[dawn furnace]

Tried playing without taking any Aura nodes - no progress for Resuuply Allies either. Now the bug report time

Someone beaten me to it 🙂
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/resupply-allies-penance-not-working/83395

[warm nebula]

Probably not strictly true. But I suspect the chance is greater. Do not discount the Emperor’s Gifts from higher difficulty levels. But if you’re hunting for a specific blessing, the best chance is the daily refresh at Melk

[trail hinge]

is there any difference from a standard damnation level maelstrom mission and an auric one? does auric have more or different modifiers that standard wouldnt?

[hard goblet]

The Auric category simply guarantees certain modifiers on missions, such as High Intensity or Shocktrooper Gauntlet.

[ocean raft]

Hey guys can you get 80% on all stats on a weapon roll?

[quick remnant]

Yes. Grey rating of 380

[ocean raft]

so max 4 stats at 80 and 1 stats at 60?

[frail summit]

Yeah. One wont be 80

Ive personally ever seen 3 80s

[ocean raft]

okay great i have some of those but i was still buying

thx

[frail summit]

Np

[ocean raft]

dumped 1M to get 1 not several nvm

xD

[frail summit]

I dumped 1 mil and only got 2 knives barely above 360 🥹

[ocean raft]

i droped this a few days ago when i just started craft, im so sad on bvlessing it was a great roll

with just perk or blessing 4 i could have gotten a god tier

[median tiger]

how do i get good fps, i have everything on low and my game still has huge frame drops

[frail summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1143771413036146769/image.png?ex=652f6623&is=651cf123&hm=c94e6f6cf7035a51ad912bd3334d6c34eb960b237dc1000a031af84d56766871& I was so close to this

[stuck shoal]

Is there a way or a map to farm dregs?

[hard goblet]

Not really. Dregs and scabs have equal proportional chance to spawn in any mission.

[stuck shoal]

Ok, thank you! :)

[graceful badge]

guys can someone help me to understand how to do this penance "malleus monstronum"
it clearly says to kill a monstrosity with brain burst , does this mean I should unequip brain rapture on my Talent tree? if not then would smite also work ?

[median tiger]

does anyone know how to fix frame drops or get more fps

[frail summit]

Extract for library. Sell rest for dockets

[valid fog]

Chat do some missions give more crafting mats than others? I seem to remember something about that in some patch notes

[frail summit]

You have to pick them up. Damnation spawns the most. W qp bonus you get avg 850 plasteel if you grabbed all

[wintry holly]

In regards to things that mention weakspot hits, does Brainburst count as hitting a weakspot?

[frail summit]

Hardly adds to mission time if people actually helped

[valid fog]

Yeah I just thought I remembered some notes saying one certain mission type had more mat spawns

But maybe I'm just misremembering

[stuck shoal]

Hey there! Still kinda newish to the game. What is the best ranged/melee weapon for the veteran? I am thinking about buying a power sword from Melk.

[hard goblet]

There's been a slight adjustment to the ratios of what spawned in the past, but amount is dictated by difficulty level.

[hard goblet]

What's "best" or not will be somewhat dependent on the playstyle you prefer.

[frail summit]

Power Sword is still good and Chainsword is good. Both are easy to use to start off. Ranged any of the lasguns can be good to start. Hellbore mk3 for sniper dmg, recon lasgun for fun , kantreal 12 for high semi fire

Wait. Dont buy from Melk if you're not 30 and it's not a good roll unless it has a blessing you want to extract

[stuck shoal]

I was thinking about buying that but the conesus seems to be not to buy it.

I just hit 30 today.

I should probably let him reset then?

[hard goblet]

If you really want to use a power sword and don't have any other serviceable options, then you can.

[valid fog]

Right, thanks

[sage stump]

I'd go for chainsword or some axe

That's just me u do u man power swords are pretty good

[dry geyser]

I'm trying to go for the 'bring the hurt' ogryn pennance but nothing seems to be counting... does it only work with base grenade?

different sources say yes and no and i just want to get my cosmetics

[valid fog]

Yeah it's bugged apparently

[dry geyser]

bugged how? like impossible?

[hard goblet]

Hadron has an extract blessing functionality.

[twilit sentinel]

Is this a good roll?

[royal plover]

Do level 4 perks only show up when you're level 30, or on weapons of a certain rating

[warm nebula]

Not the worst. Personally I would rather a low Mobility than Stability on laspistols, but the other stats are solid. I’m not familiar with the perks & blessings for them, so you will need to carefully experiment

[quasi steeple]

Hey, when I type in text chat, I press enter to send the message and it just doesn't send. Message simply vanishes. Anyone know why this is happening?

[warm nebula]

The details are a closely-guarded secret, but we suspect that there’s a bit higher chance for Tier 4 Blessings on higher-rating stuff. Not enough to matter tho

[warm nebula]

Sometimes the messages just… don’t. Netcode ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Personally, I have trouble typing in the message channel right when the game is loading or transitioning to the results screen

[quasi steeple]

So I've been having this issue all day. I logged in and couldn't send messages, but then it kept happening, restarted, kept happening. So I feel I can just no longer send text messages.

[tall grove]

any idea why nothing happens when i try to join my friend's fireteam, or nothing happens when i send him an invite? he'll see that its withdrawn when i cancel (hes on xbox, im steam)

[pale knoll]

The resupply allies penance for vet had no progress and I've been making ammo with survivalist, does it not work and have to be scavenger?

[frail summit]

Perks or blessings?

Either way best chance is upgrading base of 360+ weapons. Being lvl 30 means Brunt's Armory gives you from like 300 to 380. Still shit but better than nothing at this time. Dont be shocked if sometimes you have to spend 1 mil to get a handful to try your luck at upgrading

[royal plover]

I had a 311 rating weapon drop a rank 4 blessing, so I guess the only thing that matters is your level

[bitter oyster]

How should I change up this sword here?

[onyx knot]

anyone know what this icon mean?

[fervent ridge]

10 Elite to 25 Flak
10 Melee to 25 Maniac

Your base rating is a little low, bur those blessings are very good

[bitter oyster]

Flak/Maniac seems to be a common duo

[fervent ridge]

It is the recommendation you'll get on 90% of weapons because those two perks cover more than 70% of all the enemies in the game

[bitter oyster]

thanks

[quasi steeple]

I literally cannot use text chat? someone please help with this...

I type in chat and press enter and the message just vanishes

[fervent ridge]

Happens sometimes

Just restart the game

[quasi steeple]

restarting did not resolve the issue

its been happening all day

[silk kelp]

Do we have a modding channel?

[candid gyro]

there's a modding discord in communities page

[silk kelp]

What does critical hits mean again?

Like... head shots are all crits?

But if you have a high crit chance, sometimes body shots also count as crits?

[fervent ridge]

Headshots are weakspot hits

[silk kelp]

Ah I see

[fervent ridge]

Yes

[silk kelp]

Weakspot and Crits are too different systems

What does Wrap attack kill mean?
Any attack that is Wrap?

[candid gyro]

baseline you have 5% chance to crit, different weapons, blessings, talents can add crit chance

[silk kelp]

I see

[candid gyro]

warp is any warp based attack, so staves, charged force sword attacks, your blitz, soulblaze, or your combat ability

[silk kelp]

kk

Is Illisi still good?

[candid gyro]

it wasnt seriously nerfed, just that it's weaker by comparison cause other options got massive buffs

it plays the same as it did pre-patch

[silk kelp]

I see

The 2 other Force Swords got buffed?

[candid gyro]

the force swords themselves werent touched other than what amounted to a QoL change for venting

just that other melee weapons got brought up to be competitive alternatives to force swords like chainsword, dueling sword, devil claw

[silk kelp]

I see

Also, what is this mission that have a big icon and why is it important?

Is it like, a very hard diff 4 mission?

[candid gyro]

maelstrom missions are the hard mode missions they have unique modifiers, and tend to have a lot of them

[silk kelp]

I see, as a long time no play, can I just queue quick play Malice?

Shouldn't go too wrong I assume

[candid gyro]

yea quickplay gives extra mats, money, exp so if you're not too selective about what mission or modifiers it's fine

[silk kelp]

Is there a place I can find a quick rundown of all 4 skill trees?

Thinking about creating a new character

[fervent ridge]

milkncookies Youtube

[quick remnant]

Gamelantern has a functioning skill tree planner

[silk kelp]

Wait really? I tried it but it didn't work for me

Ok cool found it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[chilly cipher]

whats the little ! mean?

[quick remnant]

That weapon has been changed since last patch

[chilly cipher]

oh Does it not go away?

[quick remnant]

It should if you inspect the weapon normally

[chilly cipher]

it doesnt go away

[quick remnant]

Strange

Maybe ask on the forum then. Might be a bug

[woeful root]

yup; this is exactly as op as you think it is

[silk kelp]

Ayyy nice

[onyx cargo]

Hi. Is this worthwhile for Veteran?

[little coyote]

Seems pretty good, stopping power could be better

But will be fun to use for sure

[frail summit]

just changed infested to mutant and terrifying barrage to stripped down or deathspitter

[onyx cargo]

[idle cosmos]

So i have all these +toughness talents, but my toughness is always 100. Is it just a % value. is there a way to view the actual toughness value

[rigid wasp]

Base toughness got reduced with the latest update

Do you mean you're testing inside the psykhanium and each extra toughness you get changes nothing on your character?

[stuck shoal]

What are good blessings/perks to look out for on my weapons?

[rigid wasp]

Depends on the weapon tbh

[stuck shoal]

Is this any good?

I like lasguns.

I really don't know much about the game. 😅

[rigid wasp]

The rule of thumb with weapons is that you need two rolls of something, since you can only reroll two things in the gun and ideally you want the perks and blessings to be good

[stuck shoal]

The sprinting stuff seems pretty bad to me.

[rigid wasp]

That recon, taking aside the fact it's a recon and a mk2, has infernus, stripped down and two bad perks

You'd basically need to replace all 4 things in that gun and that's not possible

Melk's scam shop is best reserved to get specific blessing unlocks, but some good stuff does show up every now and then

And if you have excess melkbux, you can just grab some mildly decent stuff you'd want

Definitely don't use the mystery loot thingy he has tho

[stuck shoal]

I am using a pretty shit blue autogun rn so basically everything is an upgrade.

This is also in the shop.

Is it worth to buy a gun and upgrade it from the other shop?

[rigid wasp]

It's usually how people farm good guns, yeah

Since Melk refreshes daily, and if you're playing you're getting materials, and then you can get gear at your own pace (which is faster than Melk) and upgrade it

The time it takes to wait for one good roll for Melk you can roll several weapons from Brunt

[stuck shoal]

And I have not used up any materials at all so far. Just hit 30 yesterday.

The Recon and the helbore are good I hear?

Are flat damage perks good? Like X% Ranged Damage (Elites).

[rigid wasp]

The blue recon (4d, I think) has reverse falloff and I heard it's pretty nice, but I personally prefer the 7a (or whichever was the brown one) because it's not an ammo-burning bullethose and still deals nice damage

Of the helbores, people swear by the mk2, but I really enjoy the mk1 and the mk3 still has its niche

[stuck shoal]

I am just starting to wrap my head around all the different versions.

[rigid wasp]

Usually people put flak and maniac on their weapons because those are some of the most dangerous enemies in the game and also damage types that are very prevalent in the roster of things you want to kill immediately

The perks that people avoid are stuff like stamina, sprint, block and also weakspot and crit damage, because those last two increase the damage bonus from the weakspot and crit instead of the multiplier

So if your weapon, say, has 10 bonus damage on a crit, 10% crit damage adds 1 damage

[stuck shoal]

Thanks for all the help btw!

I am learning a lot here.

[rigid wasp]

While those perks like flak, maniac, unyielding and carapace will just make everything you do better against those enemies, independent of it being a bodyshot, a headshot or a crit

[idle cosmos]

Yea, toughness value is the blue bar yes? The total seems to be 100 always, regardless of the +toughness talents I take

[stuck shoal]

That makes sense.

[rigid wasp]

That's definitely a bit odd

It could be that something got bugged in the update

[idle cosmos]

hmm ok yea so isolated the issue. I reset all my talents It does got below 100, and talents effect up to 100. but it wont go higher than that. Is that how its supposed to work?

[rigid wasp]

It shouldn't

I can't recall of any cap for toughness

[idle cosmos]

My zealot starts at 70 toughness, and I can get 2 +15 toughness talents, and it becomes 100, but the third doesnt make it 115

ok hmm

[rigid wasp]

And, pardon my question that assumes misreading, you're making sure that it's not something like toughness damage reduction or toughness regen (I don't even recall if the zealot tree has it)?

[idle cosmos]

No worries! I did double check that it is +toughness. Im now just trying to get every toughness talent in the psykonarium, one sec

[stuck shoal]

Once I take a bleassing from a gun can I apply it as often as I like or just once?

[idle cosmos]

Ok the talents don't seem to be applying consitently? I did manage to get over 100 toughess, but Im counting 5 Talents + 70 base should = 145 toughness, but I can only hit 130.

[quick remnant]

As often as you want

But restricted by weapon types

[pulsar gust]

How do I craft? Do I just upgrade the wep I want to max and hope for best? Also what about blessings like there is a earn blessing button do I have to get multiple wep of the type I want to upg and than just turn them blue and earn their blessing?

[rigid wasp]

Lemme check the zealot tree here

[idle cosmos]

Thanks. Maybe its just late and Im making a silly error cause i need sleep

[rigid wasp]

Actually no, I see what you mean

[idle cosmos]

I think I isolated it!

[rigid wasp]

These toughness talents here raised my toughness

This little twat down here didn't

[idle cosmos]

The two passive operater nodes in those inbetween step do not stack

[rigid wasp]

I got 4 from the first image

[idle cosmos]

Get all 5. And remove either of those nodes at the tree forks and you stay at 130

if you know what i mean. idk what to call it

[rigid wasp]

I'm not sure, but from what I'm checking I'm believing the game is shitting the bed when the player tries to get 5 toughness nodes and only counts 4

[idle cosmos]

If you get all 5, remove on of the first 3 toughness nodes in your pic 1. you will got down to 115. Then try removing one of the isolated nodes further down the tree. the game keeps you at 130

[little coyote]

Are the nodes flat value of 15 or percentage (with missing % sign)?

[idle cosmos]

Flat or Percent, if you have one getting the other doesnt change your toughness value.

Ok it looks like someone reported the node not working in the forums. Im gonna add my testing to that thread. Thanks for working thru that with me @rigid wasp.

[rigid wasp]

It seems the node is working

But the game doesn't process more than 4 toughness nodes

[sturdy stirrup]

can anyone help double check a possible bug on veteran for me? I was testing the change in damage when using the superiority complex node but im seeing no change in damage at all

[rigid wasp]

I went all the way down to that last one and then filled with the rest from the start, and when I reached a 5th toughness node again it stopped counting

My money's on the 5th one anywhere not registering

[idle cosmos]

Do you mean over 5 in general or the 5th node available? because when i get 4 notes. including those two final ones. Im at 115 instead of 130. And if i only get 3 nodes (2 including the ones in question) i dont go over 100.

removing 1, won't change my toughness, removing 2 of them makes it drop by 15.

Im refering to the Nodes after Immolation Gernade and Benediciton

[rigid wasp]

5 in general

It seems that whichever order I get the nodes in, the 5th one will not give me toughness

[idle cosmos]

So trying only getting 1 of the top 3 nodes. And the get both Toughness nodes under Immolation Grenade and Benedition. does your toughness go to 115? I only get 100

[rigid wasp]

It gets to 115

[idle cosmos]

damn what!?

lol i could never get those two nodes to add up together

well something is confirmed broken at least, my theory is out the window lol

At least I know i wasnt crazy and toughness values do change on screen. Thanks for troubleshooting that with me @rigid wasp . I gotta sleep now

[rigid wasp]

I might have misunderstood, I guess

What I mean is that if I get any nodes in any order I could find, the 5th one always results in nothing

If I get 1 from the top, then the other 2 from the bottom, it counts correctly

I'll get another from the top, it counts correctly

I'll get the 5th that's missing from the top and it won't count

[idle cosmos]

Hmm, so I tried all combinations of 3 and 4 nodes too. With 2 of those always being the ones under Immolation Grenade and Benediction. My toughness changed any time i took and removed ones of the top nodes from the initial branching paths. However, the Benediction and Nade nodes, would never stack. If I take one of them by itself. It always gives +15. If i ever take both, im 15 short of the toughness value I should be.

[rigid bone]

Need some advide with auric malestrom. I ran 10 missions so far with public randoms and failed every mission with the veteran. I am not sure what to change about myself in order to beat this extremely difficult mission.

[rigid wasp]

Your teammates

[rigid wasp]

One of the first things I tried after I realized the 5th one wasn't working was the left top, then the two from the bottom, which raised me to 115

We have been fatsharked

[idle cosmos]

😆 lol, what's funny is that is the exact combo of nodes that led me to ask if Toughness is a percent value, since it was stuck at 100. We've very much been fatsharked.

[rigid wasp]

Hi, so i'm on the way of doing the final classes penances i'm missing "bring the hurt" and another mission related one, thing is, bring the hurt simply doesn't work, either with the upgraded or base version, it doesn't count at all, is it bugged ? What am i doing wrong ?

[warm nebula]

Probably bugged. The current theory is that the penance is hard-coded to trigger off the legacy, pre-skill-tree abilities. Unfortunately nothing we can do except wait for Fatshark to fix it…

[quick remnant]

Might be bugged since the ability changed

[warm nebula]

There have been several people with the same type of issue; it is likely that one of them has reported it as a bug on the official report system. (Which I don’t know the exact location of, but I bet you could find it super quickly)

[dense sedge]

Do higher difficulties also take away Stamina? Is that new or have I just never noticed?

[warm nebula]

Dunno (check my nickname lol)

[hard vector]

Is there a glossary somewhere in the game that explains what the different stats and status effects are? Say I wanted to find out what "brittleness" does for example

[fervent ridge]

Brittleness downgrades enemy armour for your entire team, letting all sources of damage do bonus versus the enemy you are applying it to

And no, there is no comprehensive resource for definitions

the game also does not explain it to you

you are meant to 'figure it out' on your own

[hard vector]

Ah, yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I know I could go to outside sources, but it feels like something that should be in the game :/

[fervent ridge]

Granted we are at the point where people have several thousand hours in the game, so we know now; ask and we'll explain

[hard vector]

Thank you for answering

[hard goblet]

Those are experience points.

Used for leveling.

[quick remnant]

They still count it up, we don't know why yet

[hard goblet]

They serve no purpose once you reach level 30, though the game still tracks how much you accrue.

[knotty kite]

what the heck does "cleave targets" imply exactly?

[woeful root]

its description sucks, but it scales the Cleave of your weapon, where Cleave is the amount of hitmass that your attack can go through

if an attack has 6 cleave and you're swinging through a bunch of enemies with 1.5 hitmass (poxwalkers), you'll hit up to 4 of them

[knotty kite]

i take it the numeral on "light" and "Heavy" attack is the hit mass?

or where do i find that stat?

wait six cleave? i get all these damn stats in percentages

[woeful root]

if you have a weapon selected in your inventory, you can press [V] for a bit more info

and you can hover each of these stats to see what they scale

for whatever reason, they have these complicated names of "cleave damage/stagger distribution"

but in practice, they just refer to the weapon's cleave as described as above

[knotty kite]

right so waht does 75 or 40 0r 4 % cleve targets imply? like 4 procent of 100% of what?

[woeful root]

so as above, the cleave for the devil claw's heavies scale from 5 to 10

so if you had a 40% cleave targets stat, you'd have 5 + (10 - 5) * 0.4 = 7 cleave

The other caveat is that the stats listed on here only account for the 1st attack of each light/heavy combo, so if the weapon has attacks in its combos that different from the 1st light/heavy, you'll have to seek external resources for the attributes of that attack

broadly speaking, most stat modifiers in this game scale linearly

[knotty kite]

i see, right, so each weapon "type" has a base cleave number that these values base themselves on?

[woeful root]

ye

between a range of values which the percentages you see scale

[knotty kite]

awesome, thanks for the info.

[rigid wasp]

Why did they release a patch if the penances are not updated ? That's completely stupid, they don't do compats with their own code or what ?

At least we have up priced krieg outfits

[knotty kite]

lol game devs hard man

[warm nebula]

They thought it was better to release like this, than delay it. I was there, I saw the “NEXT WEEK” riots…

They will probably fix it up. Until this patch, the only people playing Darktide were the hardcore maxed-out players, who had already earned those penances ages ago

[fervent ridge]

yes, that's me

[knotty kite]

heh, always got to weigh the benefits and drawbacks

[little coyote]

and stuff like that easily slips through the cracks during development

[warm nebula]

Meanwhile, as a mid player myself, I’m just happy that the newbies are coming back and asking the easy questions that even I can answer

I used to play Destiny back in the day, so I love all the “new patch energy” we got right now

[fervent ridge]

Cuties asking if bursters can be shoved

in zealot chat

because they didn't know how to deal with them

and took faceshots everytime one showed up

[scenic night]

Does anyone know if Long bomb penance can be achieved with Krak nade? Penance objective says with a frag nade

[undone moth]

What's a good zealot build to clutch because i'm helping 4 new players

[fervent ridge]

something simple like combat axe or heavy sword

and then a bolter for dealing with armored targets

[undone moth]

knife + stealth?

[fervent ridge]

the feats for zealot are all good so it's hard to go wrong with them

knife or stealth or both are on the higher end of player skill requirement

you've got to be pretty good

[undone moth]

i have to clutch so i was thinking the stealth would be like shade or handmaiden stuff

[fervent ridge]

stealth doesn't actually kill anything relative to the utility of relic or the consistency of chastise which is what makes it only good in a team that's already stable

if you want to carry hard, relic is the way

you can shield and buff and also boost teamwide damage

[undone moth]

relic is the lol pushback everything one?

ok yeah that ones great

[fervent ridge]

yea 100 toughness per teammate, invulnerability, stagger enemies and also grant damage to everyone including yourself when it ends

[undone moth]

last one maybe momentum?

heavy sword good for crits?

[fervent ridge]

it's not as flashy but it's just head and shoulders above shroud if you're not a great player

hsword is fine, you don't need crit to do well hsword already has access to headtaker which is more consistent

when the core team is stable you can capitalize on shroud for assassination /weaving between gunner lines or shenanigans like boss 1tap and still have a group to fall back to while waiting for cooldowns

[undone prawn]

sorry to ask but is there a way to have help for penances?

[fervent ridge]

ask in class specific channels

there are usually a bunch of bored veterans sitting around

[undone prawn]

alrigyht thx

[undone moth]

ok i'll just go momentum + relic

[twilit sentinel]

Why do high levels just refuse to ping enemy’s or at least use grenades?

[undone moth]

how good is the flame nade?

[fervent ridge]

inferior to stun storm

[undone moth]

aite

[fervent ridge]

but still decent

like it's not bad

you don't have to care if you aren't powergaming

[fervent ridge]

how high we talking

this also depends on difficulty

[twilit sentinel]

We were on normal damnation with levels 23-30

Only pinged enemy’s when I reminded them too and refused to throw grenades,about 5 grenades in total could’ve been used before we lost the run.

And I’ve only been playing this game for a few days

[fervent ridge]

they're probably fresh players on their 1st level up to 30 then

experienced players will ping the shit out of everything

damnation will teach them lol

You're gonna get some rough games but that's how it is for all people stepping into t5 for the first time

trial by fire across the board

[twilit sentinel]

I understand pinging but why do people just forget grenades exist

Especially when loosing to a hoard

[fervent ridge]

the mindset they have is that they'll want to use it to pull off the 1 man clutch revives

and then they die before they get to use a single nade

So the only way to push them out of that mindset is to keep wiping till they use nades before they get into a bad position

[slim sun]

First time trying to level up my weapon does the 30 damage makes a difference?

[fervent ridge]

it's a little low yeah, but the more important thing for bolter are the blessings

because bolter blessings buff damage alot

Can get a better frame of reference after you've gotten a couple upgraded bolters

without upgrades then between these two grey ones, right side will be better

[undone moth]

for heavy sword i want unarmored and flak?

[fervent ridge]

flak maniac

[undone moth]

ok

[fervent ridge]

this combination cover 70% of all enemy types including the biggest threats on higher diffs

[slim sun]

So try to buy more bolter to find good blessings ok thanks

[fervent ridge]

And try to get them above 360 base rating at minimum

that's the range where weapons tend to guarantee higher chance of t3/t4 blessings when upgraded

and you are also more likely to get good rolls into damage and reload speed which are important

[slim sun]

I am still level 28 so maybe I'll wait for level 30 to upgrade my guns

[fervent ridge]

oh then yea hold onto all your ordos for now

lvl 30 is where the gear rolling really starts

[slim sun]

Thanks for the tips be back at level 30

[stuck shoal]

If I consecrate a weapon that has Deathsplitter I (for example) can that go to Deathsplitter II?

[quick remnant]

No

[stuck shoal]

So I should only take Blessings from weapons if they are 3 or 4?

[quick remnant]

Yes

[stuck shoal]

Ok, ty. :)#

[undone moth]

For heavy sword is it L1 H2 H3 for horde clear?

[fervent ridge]

which model

[undone moth]

which is the good model

[fervent ridge]

IX is the best

infinite horizontal heavies for the windwiper horde clear

Or honestly, spamming lights work

it doesn't matter, that weapon is brainless in the best sense

if you can find a spawn door that enemies are coming out of you can sit there with tape on your Left Mouse and frag 600k dmg on damnation high intensity

[royal plover]

People are stingy with their resources. They do this with medkits as well

If you're a veteran in particular, you have zero reason to be stingy with grenades. There's two talents that let you regenerate them.

I've saved the group several times over by throwing 3 krak grenades at a giant group of maulers/reavers

I try not to be minmaxy with my builds either. Which reminds me, did they ever nerf the flamer and the power sword? Those things have been broken for ages

[fervent ridge]

how long ago did you play

so I can tell you if they have nerfed it between that time and now

[royal plover]

About 5 months ago

It was always an issue since launch, and since I played for the next 5 months and the weapons weren't ever really adjusted, I didn't think they were gonna change them.

[fervent ridge]

psword and flamer have both been nerfed

but are still very strong

Not broken OP anymore

just 'great' now

[royal plover]

imo I don't think a veteran should even have a power sword, but I'll take the nerf

[fervent ridge]

they review bombed the shit out of darktide on steam when psword was nerfed

[royal plover]

LOL

[fervent ridge]

and for a month there was a reddit firestorm

[royal plover]

AHAHAHAHA

well reddit is reddit, don't look for high levels of brainpower there

[fervent ridge]

the game was mixed but dropped to negative after they nerfed ps

people acteed like their grandmother died

But yea it's still totally fine now if you know how to melee lol

[royal plover]

Someone once called me a Redditor and I had to look in the mirror for a couple minutes afterwards

people don't like it when their meta is disturbed

"the power sword really wasn't much stronger than the heavy sword" ok buddy

EVERY non-elite enemy died in one hit to the power sword.

[fervent ridge]

it can still do that

they didn't nerf its damage

they just nerfed the number of charged swings you can do

so you really really need power cycler now

[royal plover]

That...kinda works

[fervent ridge]

but if you activate it it only does 1 charged swing instead of 3

which means you need to press more buttons

people don't like that

[royal plover]

there's also a lot of downtime in between charged swings

[fervent ridge]

they also nerfed its cleave, down to only 11 from infinite cleave

[royal plover]

which leaves you very vulnerable

[fervent ridge]

people weren't happy with that either

[royal plover]

I don't like having to constantly recharge my mauler on my zealot, but it is what it is

[undone moth]

what blessings for a thunder hammer

[royal plover]

the fact it knocks down even crushers makes it a reasonable weapon

[fervent ridge]

thrust and slaughterer or headtaker

thrust is mandatory, then the 2nd blessing is a power blessing choicie of slaughterer (on kill) or headtaker (on hit) so you decide based on personal preference

[royal plover]

thunder hammer is more of a single target weapon correct?

[fervent ridge]

That will be accurate

[royal plover]

wut

[undone moth]

and i take carapace unyielding?

[royal plover]

that reminds me, I've been meaning to ask: what are the plague ogryn and the chaos spawn weak to?

[fervent ridge]

weapons with bonusses to unyielding

flamer, bolter, thunderhammer, the new krak grenades from veteran, the new gunlugger flame shots

[undone moth]

or i take maniac + unyielding

[fervent ridge]

unyielding is mandatory, 2nd perk can be maniac or carapace depending on what you prefer

[undone moth]

aite thanks

[fervent ridge]

unyielding deals with all bosses which is the thunderhammer's main job, you take maniac if you wanna be better versus mutants and ragers which are two major melee threats, or carapace for crushers and maulers which are also two other major melee threats

in the perfect world we have a thammer with unyield cara mani so we are weak against nothing

but we gotta choose lol

[royal plover]

I had absolutely no idea weapons can obliterate bosses like that.

[fervent ridge]

that's just the thammer specifically, 99% of other weapons don't do that

[undone moth]

it's the backstab + stealth tree that makes Thammer oneshot like that

[fervent ridge]

yea

[undone moth]

the rest of the weps cannot get this

[royal plover]

so we know what's gonna get nerfed

[undone moth]

u can get close tho

krak nades already do 25% per throw

same for ogryn big bomb

[fervent ridge]

in exchange for that you give up good horde clear, mobility (thammer has only 2 dodges) and also the weapon in general requires skill to operate since the attacks are quite slow

[undone moth]

then the ogryn gunlugger route + a good stubber

achlys + fire

[fervent ridge]

no thammer won't get nerfed and hasn't been nerfed for 13 patches because it requires melee combat and hitting the proper spot; i'll tell you what is getting nerfed tho

Assail

[undone moth]

Assail absolutely nerfed

[fervent ridge]

because that shit is creaming entire games on its own right now

[undone moth]

it's too boring when it's this op

[royal plover]

I use the zealot mauler cause I want to use a big stick. Should I use the mauler to wave clear or smash elites with?

[fervent ridge]

the only reason i'm playing thammer now is because it lets me interract with the one target that assail doesn't kill

bosses

to be honest the maul is kinda ass

[royal plover]

I know...

[fervent ridge]

so it makes no difference what you hit with it

you won't be getting much results

the lackluster damage and severe movement penalty each activation absolutely kills the weapon

[royal plover]

I don't mind if a weapon is good, I just don't like using ridiculously strong weapons, makes the game feel boring

maybe I'll sword to a regular two handed sword or something

[fervent ridge]

try the evis it got buffed

[royal plover]

I gotta get more plasteel before I can do that, I ran out of resources last night

Last night I brought my level 27 veteran into a damnation match and the zealot was telling me I'm underleveled and shouldn't be in here

[fervent ridge]

oh deaar

[royal plover]

he then proceeds to get downed twice

we finished the match too, and he apologized at the end

I'm guessing he's used to seeing non-30s die a lot

I think I use a chainsword on my veteran, and switched to a lasgun

Still trying to figure out which gun on the veteran is right for me, I'm not the best at headshots

I like playing veteran because the option of always having grenades makes things a lot less scary when elites rush you

[fervent ridge]

free grenade regen is so good

[royal plover]

I wish my gun did more damage to monstrosities though, it feels like I just tickle bosses

Or are guns just bad against monstrosities?

[quick remnant]

In most cases yes

[royal plover]

So you need melee weapons that armor pierce and do damage to unyielding?

[fervent ridge]

you can't be good at everything, you just gotta pick a few, or even most things to be good at but there will be some gaps

That's where the rest of the team fills in the gap

[quick remnant]

Not armour pierce, just Unyielding or Flak (Captain)

[fervent ridge]

a thammer zealot or bolter vet will plug the gap in bosskilling you need while you fill the anti specialist/ extreme ranged combat hole they lack

[royal plover]

The captain boss is considered flak?

I do struggle hitting enemies past 30 meters or so. Aren't lasguns supposed to be the best at long range?

Veteran's my least played class so I don't know everything they have

[fervent ridge]

yea they should have no issue hitting stuff out to 50 m

this might be a player input problem

[royal plover]

when I'm trying to kill a sniper 50m out, it's difficult

especially since they take like 3 shots to kill