gameplay-help

[rigid wasp]

I can never see any of these when I go to my character creation screen

[rotund ravine]

maybe they are from the imperial edition pack?

[rigid wasp]

what? The imperial edition doesn't give that thing or it'd be listed on the pack

[rotund ravine]

it says it give an ogryn body tatoo, don't know if its that one

[rigid wasp]

can you show me

I didn't see this

[rotund ravine]

that would be the 14th body tatoo and i jsut checked redit and its that one that is imperial edition limited

[rigid wasp]

are there other body tattoos?

that are limited

[rotund ravine]

let me look for a better soource real quick

nop

[rigid wasp]

u sure?

there was another tattoo I saw last night that I've never seen anywhere in the character creation

for non-ogryn

[rotund ravine]

https://preview.redd.it/free-devoted-rejects-pack-for-all-previous-vermintide-1-and-v0-c55m62zqsrx91.png?auto=webp&s=d0e428bad921c8b9364f0789fa85c2d906e52eac

[rigid wasp]

lemme take a look

[rotund ravine]

not imperial edition

[rigid wasp]

so what you gotta own vermintide?

[rotund ravine]

devoted rejects pack from owning vermintide 2

[rigid wasp]

hm ok maybe I'll buy it now

[rotund ravine]

wait

let me check if it was a 1 time thing or it still gives if you buy vermintide 2

[rigid wasp]

pls do

[rotund ravine]

actualy fuck it

i have a vermintide 2 key

from humble bundle

[rotund ravine]

Just DM'd you a vermintide 2 key

[rigid wasp]

wait wut

[solid steeple]

Anyone available to help a psyker out?

Just need a shield ogryn to tank a daemonhost on Heresy. Going for the Malleus Monstrum achievement

[wispy sierra]

what is rending?

got a blessing with it

[rotund ravine]

Rending buffs you to ignore a small amount of armor.

[hard goblet]

You are limited to 20 Emperor's Gifts a week. It's random within that.

[honest crater]

why is there a limit?

[hard goblet]

Presumably to prevent you from gearing up too quickly.

[warm night]

The armory servitor made sure that even anti-monopoly laws applied to the Emperor. He has a business to keep open.

[hard goblet]

Since Emperor's Gifts will have the possibility of giving you orange weapons/high base rating weapons.

[tepid skiff]

what the unholy fock.

[solid steeple]

anyone up to play a bit? want to try and get the malleus monstrum penance done

[balmy silo]

Question: Is the quality of the items (like green/blue/purple/orange) in the armory completely random or based on the difficulty of your previous mission?

[solid steeple]

random

[balmy silo]

ok.. trying to get a deflector blade sword and the game doesn't want to play ball.. or give me force blade swords period so i could try my luck getting the blessing myself

😦

i guess i could just run through difficulty one missions over and over until the game decides to take pity on me then

[solid steeple]

yeah i got it by chance in the shop, and now it's my main weapon

just gotta get lucky on that end, until we can reroll/earn blessings

[sudden knot]

What is the "maximum warp charge" ammout in percentage? I'm confused, like, I was above 50% non-stop in malice and nothing happened; I don't know how I got that 58 by the way.

[solid steeple]

warp charges are earned through either brain bursts or other various psyker abilities

the percentage is your peril meter

warp charges are this little symbol at the bottom of your screen after you brainburst a target

[scenic tinsel]

whats the max base rating on weapons?

[solid steeple]

the 58 means you've achieved 58 seconds with max warp charges on malice difficulty or higher

[solid steeple]

not sure, but i know no weapons can roll over 80% on their stats yet

[patent sapphire]

380 for now, some have visual bugs that show between 381-385 on transcendent rarity but that's a bug

[scenic tinsel]

Gotcha

[patent sapphire]

stats always add up to 380 or less

[scenic tinsel]

So I should start investing into a weapon when its like in the mid to high 370s?

[patent sapphire]

anything above 360 is going to be pretty rare

[scenic tinsel]

I see

[patent sapphire]

someone tracked a bunch of drops on reddit and a 380 is like a 2% chance to appear in a shop

[scenic tinsel]

what about 370+?

[patent sapphire]

so having one that's 380 on the weapon you care about is way lower

let me see if i can find the post

[solid steeple]

is anyone playing rn? could use some penance help

[open sedge]

caring about the power rating is a mistake, focus on the actual stats that are improved by that. a 330 can be effectively as good as a 380 if the only stat that suffers is something like mobility

[patent sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zp72f7/after_rolling_750_items_in_the_shop_this_is_what/here's the numbers if you want to look yourself

[scenic tinsel]

the power rating isn't what is being discussed, the base rating is all the stats added up

it's the number that's below the power rating

[open sedge]

sorry that's what i meant

just used the wrong term

hence my specifying 380

[sudden knot]

I never noticed that emblem, maybe because I put the HUD to be very small.

Thanks for the tip, I'll check now.

[solid steeple]

mhm np

[patent sapphire]

~95% of rolls will be between 300 and 360

according to his data

[scenic tinsel]

wow okay, so i should hold on to my 2 363s

[patent sapphire]

yeah

especially if like jimminyjon said they have good stat distribution

[scenic tinsel]

What does Ignoring Enemy Hit Mass do

Is that very beneficial

[patent sapphire]

every enemy has a hit mass and when you swing with a cleaving attack it subtracts the hit mass from the weapons cleave

[scenic tinsel]

Oh I see

[patent sapphire]

and when that is <0 it stops on that enemy

ignoring hit mass you'll always swing the full animation and distribute damage to the max number of enemies

it's better on some things than others, i use that blessing on the chain sword

[scenic tinsel]

Oh wow well I just got it on chainsword

my 363 one

[patent sapphire]

yeah it helps dealing with hordes

[scenic tinsel]

would you say this is worth consecrating further?

[scenic tinsel]

^

[patent sapphire]

this one is mine that i run in damnation on my vet, the blessing tier is a bit low but you'll be able to fix that eventually

[scenic tinsel]

I see I see

[patent sapphire]

if you've got currency to burn it would probably turn into a nice weapon

but consecration is essentially gambling

and since we don't know exactly how the reblessing stuff will work i'd just use it as is and see how you like it

and if you really like it then upgrade

[scenic tinsel]

yeah anointed seems like enough for now

plus my mobility roll is a bit high, and damage is low

[patent sapphire]

yeah

[scenic tinsel]

what ranged weapon do you pair with that?

[patent sapphire]

kantrael mg xii

[scenic tinsel]

gotcha

[patent sapphire]

this loadout will kill basically everything but crushers

you can sort of deal with crushers with the powered heavy on the chainsword but in damnation it doesn't really work

[scenic tinsel]

I see I see

[patent sapphire]

you need like 5 powered heavy hits to kill lol

which takes forever

[scenic tinsel]

Jesus

[patent sapphire]

so better to leave to someone that can bleed them or an ogryn

[scenic tinsel]

Would you say the typical knife + bolter build for zealot is viable at all in heresy/damnation?

[patent sapphire]

i see zealots running flamer a lot but bolter is fine as well if you're ok surviving in a horde on your own with the knife, i don't have a whole lot of experience with zealot so i don't know what they usually run in terms of feats

just make sure you're killing the armored stuff if you bring the bolter

[scenic tinsel]

Gotcha

Thanks for all the tips

[patent sapphire]

np, i'm still learning as well so if you find something that works for you take it and run with it lol

[open sedge]

i like running flamer for hordes and thammer for elites, that way you can leave the ammo to the vets so they can do the job of keeping everyone alive enemy ranged units dead. knife also is supposed to (with the right build) be able to go through crushers and stuff via bleed etc so having a boltgun for that might just be doubling up on 1 specialty.

[past briar]

Hey guys, is there a dedicated website/channel for grimoire locations out there? Cheers 🙂

[heavy shuttle]

Prior coordination with veteran (if in group) helps in this regard. If vet is running bolter, switch to flamer if confident in player skill.

In matchmaking outside of discord coms, the coordination piece can be a shit show.

[heavy shuttle]

Zealots running bolters is quite noticeable for ammo count across team. No issue with the weapon choice but zealots using full auto bolter for horde clear requires a large chunk of map find ammo. This can lead to problems around half way through the map.

^ Vet main appreciating the ammo strategy from zealot player ( @open sedge ). Oasis in a desert.

[rich smelt]

I'm tired of this shop NPC who sells me low fcking items even if I'm lvl 30 almost since beta

[patent sapphire]

im guessing he is going to be one of the main sources of t3 blessings

[edgy wedge]

naw chief wdym? thats sire melk right there

[patent sapphire]

once that stuff comes around

[edgy wedge]

he only gives terrible stuff atm

no good things allowed

except through gambling

the 250 for a random curio has netted me like 6 transcendent ones

no clue on the percent chances tho

[heavy shuttle]

I've picked up one seriously good piece from Melk since beta launch. The hour sink slow enacted by Fatshark is very overdone. If it was a turkey it would be burnt to a crisp.

[solid steeple]

Ay yo who wanna get some penances?

[hard goblet]

Working as intended. :) Please enjoy playing Warhammer 40k: Darktide.

[heavy shuttle]

Thank you Hedge.

[heavy shuttle]

I've seen folks get groups faster in #vox-lfg-nasa or whichever region you're in.

[wet narwhal]

does the regular corruption resist help with grimoire's corruption? heard the grimoire one is bugged?

[heavy shuttle]

From my testing, grimoire corruption resistance is exclusive. Non specified corruption resistance in the perk line affects corruption from dogs/beasts etc but not books.

They could have changed it from last I tested. There are alot of changes that are not explicitly annotated in the patch notes unfortunately.

[tepid skiff]

and the grim resistance perk was bugged so that it only affected the trickle damage, not the initial chunk.

likely still is.

[heavy shuttle]

Which somewhat defeated the purpose imo. I'd recommend rerolling that into something more generally useful.

[hard goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zhu85k/grimoire_corruption_explained_and_why_corruption/

The standard Corruption Resist perk affects the ticking damage the grimoire does. It does not affect the initial -40HP picking up the grimoire causes.

[wet narwhal]

thanks for the info guys!

[serene latch]

what else doesn't work

jesus

[mystic wyvern]

If a random team mate pisses off a daemonhost, is it RNG on if he decides to screw the rest of the squad?

I assumed it was just, as long as you didnt hit it, he shouldn't come looking for you next, but I just had someone hit the host when 2 other people needed to be rescued, and he teleported to me after killing them* -_-

[rotund ravine]

i think host goes away after it kills 2 players, i don't know exactly how it picks its targets, some say it picks the lowest hp player after the first player that aggroed it dies but i can't 100% verify.

i don't think you can avoid it targeting a second player, so if you can't kill it should always expect 2 players to die

[bold herald]

what are the mechanics that completely strip your toughness

it seems like bombs and... flamers? instantly strip all toughness even if you just barely graze it

[rotund ravine]

its fire

touching fire instantly breaks your toughness, so enemy flamers, the grenadier fire grenade and fire barrels.

[bold herald]

hmm I guess that's part of the incentive to go +hp

[small anchor]

does anyone know what the purpose of the chevrons beneath a mission in the select screen is?

[bold herald]

highest difficulty accomplished this patch

[small anchor]

it doesn't seem to correlate to difficulty, modifiers, or zone

[rotund ravine]

i mean, the grenade as a decent delay before the fires become active and the flamers need to run in close to fire at you.

[bold herald]

I mean sure, getting good is always an option

[rotund ravine]

it's the highest difficulty you completed that map on, it changes nothing for the map you queueing into, its just Tracking your progress in a way

[small anchor]

gotcha, thank you

is there anywhere else to see that, or is it the only place that info is provided?

[rotund ravine]

As far as im aware , that is the only place to check it.

[small anchor]

👍

seems like it'd be useful to have somewhere a bit more permanent for that, if people are trying to track which missions they've done lol

i would not have guessed that's what those indicated, but i appreciate the information

[rotund ravine]

But sadly it tracks between characters so it doesn't help much with the penance to complete 1 of each mission at X difficulty on multiple characters.

[small anchor]

oh, rip

lol, well i guess that's what future patches are for

[rotund ravine]

ye, they got a lot of work ahead of them

[bold herald]

honestly it s always going to be repair

[quaint osprey]

What is the max level gear?

[rotund ravine]

380 base stats rating. then blessings and perks add rating as well, i think a tier 4 blessing might add 50 or 55 rating but i have none to verify, a tier 3 gives 45 rating each , and a tier 4 perk gives 25 each so, using what i know for sure its 520 + whatever the increase of a tier 3 blessing to 4.
taking a tier 1 blessing is 25, a 2 is 35 and a 3 is 45 , i will assume a 4 is 55, and my assumed max rating for a weapon would be 540.

Between 520 and 540 :O

and i just made a google search and a tier 4 blessing is 55 rating!

540 rating is the max current achievable rating

[open sedge]

T4 is indeed 55

110+380+50

[rotund ravine]

then the image i saw must have been outdated :O

[open sedge]

i mean, i had heard that max was 530 for some reason

[rotund ravine]

actualy, im just dumb

[open sedge]

but it seems like it should be 540

[rotund ravine]

it was 1 tier 4 and 1 tier 3 that made a total of 100

and i just glossed over and assumed both tier 4 ,ops

youp all math check out in the end!

540 is the number!

[warm nebula]

Aren’t there some display bugs in the weapon display panel? Sometimes the power doesn’t add up right… we must be cautious /obiwan

[green mantle]

Is it possible to raise combat ability regeneration upto 4%? been re rolling for like 15 mins and the highest im getting is 3

[warm nebula]

I don’t see why it would not be possible…

[uneven bough]

It certainly is, but you are seemingly more likely to roll lower tier perks if your item rating is low (as is the case here due to your blessing being only 69 rated)

[warm nebula]

Nice(?)

[rigid wasp]

So uh

Is this roll any good?

I'm 30 melk tokens off from getting that so rip me

[warm nebula]

I think you would’ve wanted more Cleave Targets and less Finesse, but that’s splitting hairs (and I’m not a gear expert)

It’s not bad, it’s just not BIS godroll

[rigid wasp]

Can anyone else confirm if it's worth buying or not?

I lied and I can barely afford it if I do all my bounties tonight

[green mantle]

ahhhhh i see thanks thanks

[warm nebula]

I too would like the opinion of an expert

Until we get one, do you have any other powerswords of similar quality? Or would this be a significant upgrade for you?

Could be worth it if you are playing a lot and consistently getting your weeklies done

[uneven bough]

it's probably the best you are going to get until full crafting

[rigid wasp]

so buy it?

[uneven bough]

I would but I'm at 10+k Melk tokens with only a single good item bought/available since week 1

depends on your current one as well

[rigid wasp]

I dont have one

I have a catachan sword I'll show it after this mission

[uneven bough]

get it then

[rigid wasp]

ok well I gotta finish my contracts then

[hard goblet]

It's ok. If you don't have a better power sword then buy it. Your damage, cleave damage, and finesse are all high enough.

[rigid wasp]

this is my only melee right now

Still get the powersword?

[hard goblet]

I would still get the powersword.

[rigid wasp]

k

like on a scale of 1 to 10 how decent would you say it is?

because I still need to do like 15 missions and find 10 more grims

and it's like 5am already

[hard goblet]

Oh, oof.

It's an 8 out of 10 in my opinion.

Just bordering on the edge of ideal.

And if you don't have a power sword, it will take you far.

Their performance for horde clearing is far better than the devil's claw in my experience.

Once you learn the timing on energizing and what that lets you do, you can pretty effectively hold against anything that isn't a crusher or bulwark.

[cursive hemlock]

Is here any benefit doing above Malice?

[warm nebula]

1. more diamantine (probably)
2. bragging rights
3. something else to do when you’re bored with Malice

[cursive hemlock]

Can someone also explain why I have this many bullets? 👀

[hard goblet]

Divide by 3.

That's the number of actual shots you have.

The Kantrael lasguns use 3 ammo per shot.

[cursive hemlock]

I'm confused because it jumps from like 900 to like 200?

[hard goblet]

Oh, that's a display bug.

There's an issue with integer overflow.

[cursive hemlock]

oof

So how can I tell how much I have? 💀

[topaz lark]

you dont

[rigid wasp]

is crafting coming to the game eventually?

has that been confirmed?

[warm night]

We will find out the new deadline they plan to be short by after New Years I bet

[rigid wasp]

idc how long it takes

I just wanna know if it is or if it isn't.

Is there any info on that

[warm night]

It was supposed to be end of december

[rigid wasp]

So there WILL be crafting at some point?

That's all I wanna know

[warm night]

Only crafting at Hadron, the next 2 options say "Open Soon"

There won't be weapon crafting from scratch, just rerolling or replacing perks/blessings

[rigid wasp]

ok

[hard goblet]

The crafting dev blog stated they planned to roll out the crafting features "through December", implying that they would have Consecrating, Refining, Re-Blessing, and earning Blessings in the game by the end of December.

This is not going to happen in their stated timeframe.

These 4 options are the extent of what we've been promised so far for weapon crafting.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3485252139459350312 #📢news-bulletin

[warm night]

In an update after this blog post, they also reworded The Perk rerolling to cost an increasing amount and that it would lock the other perks. The end result was the Perk rerolling cost decreased and locked the other perks. So we were told about two versions and then got a third. That is why it is such a crapshoot for what to expect.

[hard goblet]

The lack of communication or clarification about the reroll cost decreasing instead of increasing was so abrupt that most people thought it was a typo too. It was just a small footnote as part of that patch's patchnotes.

[warm night]

I still can't believe they choose a path that doesn't allow for rerolling both perks

[topaz lark]

it is safe to say we are getting some sort of crafting, but even developers have no idea what it will be

[topaz lark]

but muh grind player retention

[hard goblet]

I could never have predicted it either. But after seeing it, we now have no choice but to assume they are going to use every tactic available to force players to stay committed to the RNG Armory.

[warm night]

They said they are on Plan B for crafting, which they are making, but it feels like plan F

[hard goblet]

Yeah I'm not sure how much I believe Wahlund when he said the previous crafting system was worse.

[warm night]

I don't even log in to check the store any more. I just spend all of my time working on this break point calculator.

[hard goblet]

With how little player agency this system has, how barebones it is, and how it wasn't even available at launch it reeks of a hasty cut and paste.

The only way the previous system could have been worse than this was if there simply was no player agency at all.

[topaz lark]

it would be better for them to just copy-paste it from VT2 tho

[hard goblet]

And either way, no matter which system it wouldn't have been even close to their initially stated goal of avoiding RNG driven systems and giving more agency to the players.

[topaz lark]

instead they deliberately made a completely new system which is straight up worse

[warm night]

I didn't play VT1 but I wonder if even it had a better system

[ebon otter]

any nice ogryn wanna help a psyker out by tanking a monstrosity while i brain burst it to death

[topaz lark]

VT1 was weird

[hard goblet]

I have a suspicion the Tencent game's division credited in the staff credits saw the opportunity to aggressively inject "extended player engagement" mechanics into the crafting system.

[topaz lark]

its somewhere in between VT2 and DT

[hard goblet]

My condolences to you.

[ebon otter]

ty its is hard without the help of an ogryn with a shield

[warm night]

DT didn't even need player retention mechanics, look at how many dumbass players have put in over 200 hrs, me included lol

[hard goblet]

My guess is they wanted to maximize the chances and window for getting players to spend on the cash shop.

[warm night]

Well its unfortunate then that the missing features, among other things, are working in opposition of that goal. Have to have the full game done before worrying about how much extra you can hold on to players.

[heavy shuttle]

The player base is reacting to the 'garbage in, garbage out' development approach. Had an interesting conversation with a Vermintide 1+2 oldtimer who referenced both game launches were eerily similar to how Darktide is faring now. You'd think the third time is the charm but evidently not.

[topaz lark]

oh hey, we reached 60% 🎉

[topaz lark]

people learn, companies don't

[rigid wasp]

games ended up being a financial success

rest is irrelevant

at least to the higher ups

[cobalt raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720241522305663040/1055845356409192458/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720241522305663040/1055845307985956897/image.png

do I get 30 percent chance of emperor's gift if I equip both

[warm nebula]

Goodbye weapons

[rigid wasp]

no, just 30% of the emperors gift to be a curio

[cobalt raven]

OH SO IT REALLY DOES UP THE CHANCES

[warm nebula]

Why tf is it “(instead of [x])” 😡

[rigid wasp]

which is perhaps the worst trait

[warm nebula]

That’s not a bonus

[rigid wasp]

why would you want curios

[cobalt raven]

shop gives poop ones

might as well farm em

[warm nebula]

Until you hit the silent e-gift cap

[rigid wasp]

a good weapon is ten times more impactful than a good curio

[cobalt raven]

what's that

[warm nebula]

~30/wk? We’re not sure

Rate go down after some amount of gifts

[cobalt raven]

oh

so that's why I am getting fewer nowadays

I got lucky a few days ago

5 out of my 4 games

I got emperor's gift

one of em was legendary dueling sword

[warm nebula]

Obese ocean predator plz, you’re making a loot-focused game, give us loot for grinding

Ok, I’ll go back to #general-chat lol

[smoky scarab]

need help regarding 2 ogryn weapons

[obsidian summit]

what level would yall recommend for malice? im currently level 10 on my zealot and when i get matched with other people around my level we get wiped halfway through, but if there is a single level 20+ we end up making it

[sage cave]

it very much depends on your experience

[nova fractal]

Levels do help to a certain point, but the thing people need to know about this game, is that its all about understanding the fundamentals of combat first in order to start getting consistent on higher difficulties. I would recommend you look up some videos on basic mechanics such as dodging, blocking, push attacks, positioning, etc.. Even looking up videos on combat for Vermintide 2 can be applied to Darktide.

[worthy meteor]

What is a flash mission?

I have an objective to complete 7 different types of missions, I click on the missions to see which ones I haven't done as it doesn't tell me on the actual challenge and theres one that says 0/1 Flash mission.

[nova fractal]

its an event that has yet to be released on Darktide yet

[worthy meteor]

Ah okay, Must not be that type of mission that I haven't completed yet then.

is there a way to see which mission types I have done?

[nova fractal]

Kind of? If you have multiple characters, then its not reliable. If you go to the mission select terminal, you'll notice green arrows below missions with various chevrons depending on the difficulty you completed it on. That's the only way to tell what mission you completed. Keep in mind, it only shows completion for that SPECIFIC mission, not mission type

[worthy meteor]

ah I will have a look. Thank you for the help.

[calm plover]

what is highest rating of a weapon?

is it 500 like vermintide?

[topaz lark]

380 base rating atm

(it was 300 in VT2)

[topaz lark]

total rating is a useless metric in DT, what you want to look at is the base rating that goes into stats

[calm plover]

ok, thank you, checking it now 🙂 i want to be sure before i turn it into gold 🙂

is the 342 the normal rating?

[patent sapphire]

342 is the base rating

[calm plover]

cool, thanks alot guys

[wanton frigate]

is this one worthy? 🤔

or should I try looking for a power sword?

[topaz lark]

not worth the currency imo

unless you reeeeeally like axes

[uneven bough]

if it had better attack patterns. Heavy 1 is interesting since perfectly rolled it can one-shot two pox walkers, but that's about it

[rigid wasp]

how do I get the most out of my chainsword

[wanton frigate]

so power sword is still best?

I do like combat axe

[topaz lark]

"best" is subjective

as with other tide games, use what you find more comfortable

[nova fractal]

In what aspect?

[rigid wasp]

Generally speaking, I've been able to grab random ones based on power level and do okay on heresy but I been strugglin wit it on damnation, are there specific perks or stats I should be shooting for on them

[nova fractal]

Which part are you struggling on exactly? Horde clearing, killing elites, etc...

[rigid wasp]

I'd say horde clearing, do I just want ignore enemy mass perkd and cleave shtuff? Also does penetration help you not get stuck on elites while swinging through a crowd?

[nova fractal]

Penetration is a damage number thing, it will not affect how far you can cleave. Cleave/ignore enemy mass are nice to have if you feel like you're not mowing down the horde enough.

like this too much cleave

[topaz lark]

no such thing

[nova fractal]

legit feels weird using it, because it just swings through everything cleanly.

[uneven bough]

does the increased cleave also affect the cleave damage

[warm nebula]

No, but hitting an enemy increases the damage dealt to it by 100%

[uneven bough]

yeah but the damage falls to like 30 pretty quick

which may as well be 0, only helps with stagger

[warm nebula]

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick

[nova fractal]

damn, now i want a sharp stick in the game. When is spear coming out

[rigid wasp]

I'm jellyyy

[nova fractal]

Just to make sure, you're referring to this chainsword right, and not an eviscerator?

[rigid wasp]

I am referring to chainsword yes

[nova fractal]

chainsword is decent at hitting multiple enemies, but it won't be as effective as a weapon that have a relentless attack pattern, like the devil's claw sword or the power sword. So you would end up having to do more pushing and dodging in combination with your chainsword heavy attacks when dealing with a horde.

[wanton frigate]

that remind me, I see power glaive in some pic about w40k. not sure if they are canon but they look really cool

chainsaw glaive as well

[nova fractal]

that'd be hella N U T if those weapons were released

[rigid wasp]

Do I care if the defences stat is that low?

[blissful cipher]

Why cant i equip it

[toxic trail]

i got to level 30 but my rewards for hitting aint showing up :c help

[cinder igloo]

Which reward, specifically?

The only one I'm aware of is the stance you get.

[cinder igloo]

You seem to have the standard garb highlighted

[toxic trail]

it looks like a necklace or something

[cinder igloo]

Ah, it's not a necklace, it's a charm. Select a weapon, then at the bottom will be a button to let you modify your weapon appearance. Any weapon will do.

[toxic trail]

ooo ok ty

[cinder igloo]

On the top left of that next screen, are two symbols. one is skins (default), one is charms.

[blissful cipher]

it wont let me click on the other one

[cinder igloo]

That's a new one. Could you try buying one of the tops from the shop (not the cash shop) and see if it works then?

[blissful cipher]

I dont have enough money

[cinder igloo]

that's rough

[nova fractal]

try restarting game?

[blissful cipher]

i figured it out thanks tho\

[nova fractal]

I'd equip that. Defence relates to your stamina consumption and dodge. So it shouldn't be too big of a deal on hammer since that thing staggers the crap out of everything

[open sedge]

no, defences is your dump stat, if anything you don't even block that much with thammer compared to some other weapons because the shove attack is mid (imo)

also afaik the defences stat has a pretty small difference between 0 and 100%

[nova fractal]

agreed, its a small threshold to hit, which is pretty negligible

[rigid wasp]

So its a good hammer?

[open sedge]

well the perk is shit so you'd need to land a good other perk and 2 good blessings for it to be good. your other one, in my opinion, has basically perfect blessings besides one being only t1.

although hammer blessings are debatable of course, since SnA has some room to sneak in

[rigid wasp]

I can reroll the perk

What perks should i try to roll for?

[rigid wasp]

That aint bad

Should I reroll the crit perk or keep it?

[open sedge]

honestly I think your other one is better.

[rigid wasp]

If I get extra damage on flak armor on this hammer, I dont know if Id agree

[open sedge]

i'd have to see the last perk but I think thrust being t3 on the other is a pretty big benefit

[rigid wasp]

Once we can reroll blessings it might be better

Should I take 25% on carapace armor?

[open sedge]

carapace somewhat niche I think?

basically only maulers and crushers that would be significant targets for tht, lthough it might take you into oneshot range for them

[rigid wasp]

I rolled 25% damage on flak just now, so thats fine

Once there's a blessing reroll it might be fine

Testing it in the meat grinder it requires the same number of hits between hammers

Should i reroll yje perk on this staff for my psyker? stats are already pretty strong

[grand ocean]

What level do I need to be to join VOX channel? Is 30 needed?

[nova fractal]

definitely not. Just post a LFG for the difficulty you're comfortable with or lookout for a LFG post for a difficulty you want to play at.

[honest jackal]

What’s the best weapons for vet sharpshooter just started playing him

[glossy apex]

how do I completely unassign a keybind?

[nova fractal]

That's subjective. What kind of playstyle do you like?

[open sedge]

just bind it to some arbitrary key? unless there's a reason you explicitly need it unbound

[glossy apex]

I specifically want it unbound

[azure zenith]

whats the max toughness % health and toughness for curios?

[open sedge]

17/5

and 21/5 i think

but im not sure on the health substat one

[patent sapphire]

that lines up with what i’ve seen

[open sedge]

honestly i don't really look at health curios

[azure zenith]

okay thanks!

[glossy apex]

someone @ me when you find out

[mild birch]

what are unyielding enemies

[nova fractal]

Shield Big Bois, Shooty Big Bois, and any Bosses that spawn in the middle of the map

[mild birch]

do elite enemies count?

[cinder igloo]

nawh. it's very specific to the ogryns and monstrosities.

and not all parts of them

https://imgur.com/a/Selj5nI/

[nova fractal]

No, only those 3 specifically have an armor type that classifies them as unyielding. However, the Bulwark and Reaper have specific armor parts on them that are carapace/flak

[lilac fiber]

Question: Can I change a perk on a green weapon then upgrade to purple. Then change the second perk?

[open sedge]

no

[lilac fiber]

ty

[south mesa]

Any fellow devoutees to the Emporer available to lend me a hand with the "Malleus Monstronum" penance?
(As psyker on Heresy, kill a Monstrosity having dealth 90% of its health with Brain Burst)

[cinder igloo]

Try the lfg, my friend. #vox-lfg-lexicanum

It is quite the tedious penance, indeed. I haven't found time to torment 3 other people with it. or 1, actually, realistically I only need a shield ogryn and 2 dead bots.

and a demonhost

[mild birch]

New player here. I just wanna clarify something: I spent the last few days grinding out my character to lvl 30, did all my weekly challenges and got the bonus only to not be able to afford a single transcendent weapon?

And I have to wait until the contract reset in two days, do more weekly contracts, and then I'll be able to afford a single gold weapon?

Is Melk's currency shared between characters?

[fresh nymph]

Sorry Dude, that's the game. I have no defense to give you.

[mild birch]

Is Melk's currency shared between my characters? Can I go grind out another character class and get more weeklys done?

[fresh nymph]

It is not shared.

Nothing is shared between characters

[mild birch]

That's fucking awesome LMFAO

video gaming

[fresh nymph]

Yep

I enjoy playing the game, but i don't recommend it to anybody lol

[mild birch]

How the hell is anyone supposed to manage multiple classes

Also I'm sorry I'm just tuning into this, but I only got the game a few days ago and I'm trying to catch up. I'm sure this has been asked a million times already.

[carmine lichen]

It's kind of like a live service game, if you're used to playing them. It's all about patience and grinding. Your best chance at a transcendant weapon (gold) is to consecrate one yourself by grinding plasteel and diamantine. Just keep running missions and hope your team picks up the supply stashes, and you'll do it in no time.

I was able to craft my first gold weapon before I was even level 30. Just save your materials and buy a blue or purple one, then upgrade it yourself at the forge.

[patent sapphire]

my guess is that melk will be one of the main sources of tier 3 and 4 blessings when the new crafting mechanics get implemented

a lot of store stuff is tier 1 or 2

and it will take 9 level 2 blessings or 27 level 1 blessings to combine them all into a level 4 blessing

[open sedge]

they're letting you combine blessings ?

[patent sapphire]

yeah

[deep plaza]

how to fix this goofy weapon look?

[patent sapphire]

you’ll be able to combine 3 of one tier to upgrade it to the next tier

and you do that by pulling blessings off weapons to combine them

then putting them on a different weapon

[open sedge]

where is this mentioned, i thought they said they were reworking the mechanics so it wouldn't go back to whatever they tested in beta?

[patent sapphire]

it was in the post where they laid out their crafting plans

[open sedge]

ohh so earn blessing is just melting down weapons with a certain blessing

[patent sapphire]

it’s called crafting in darktide on nov 25th

yeah you delete your weapon to get a currency for that blessing

then combine them to higher tiers

and put them back on a different weapon

[hard goblet]

Granted, they could easily add more restrictions or change how things work. Like with perk reroll slot locking. We have no idea at this point.

You can find the original post in #📢news-bulletin .

[patent sapphire]

well, what they said before was increasing cost

the locked perk is in a way more friendly as it’s a guaranteed t4 perk of your choice

whereas with increasing cost you could theoretically make something perfect but it might be functionally impossible due to cost

[hard goblet]

I meant that when crafting features were first laid out here https://steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/3485252139459350312 there was no mention of the restriction of only being able to reroll 1 perk slot rather than multiple.

[patent sapphire]

you fight rng sure, but you know you can guarantee a good perk set on any weapon that drops with one good perk

yeah

[hard goblet]

That addition was not mentioned until much later before Refining was specifically added.

So, it stands to reason a similar change will also be implemented for blessings.

Since no on would have predicted such an arbitrary lockout.

[patent sapphire]

maybe the restriction will be that adding a blessing is a special consecration you can only do from purple to ascendant

so you can only guarantee one blessing

[open sedge]

honestly I was expecting it to just be you take the blessing off of one of the same weapon and slap it on, replacing one of the blessings on the weapon you started with

[hard goblet]

Before the perk reroll slot lock was announced, I would've expected the same as you for blessings.

Though the crafting blog does mention the Votive Offering upgrade system.

[patent sapphire]

yeah at the very least they are or were planning it to cost the original weapon

[tiny granite]

does flawless execution penance progress reset if I leave the ongoing match?

I dont want to waste time if I join ongoing match

[grim raven]

Is there a mission guide? I’m new and I got chided for opening a door and I really don’t want to do the wrong things 😦

[sage cave]

if u can handle yourself, don't mind the backseaters

[graceful atlas]

Anyone else having mass-disconnects tonight

And rubberbanding?

[rigid wasp]

Worth or no?

[carmine lichen]

Pretty good.

[rigid wasp]

Even if damage and pen are low?

[carmine lichen]

Having a decently high shred and cleave can compensate for low damage or pen, and the crit chance is nice, if you can find a flow of shred-killing a small enemy and then digging into a big target.

[stable heron]

anybody available to help me get the flesh wound penance?

[bold herald]

what do you do with dockets after you're good on weapons?

[patent sapphire]

buy out the cosmetic shop

lol

i usually keep 100k on hand for if something awesome comes out of the docket shop but other than that there's nothing

[gleaming terrace]

Hi, I need someone preferably an shield ogryn to do the 90% monstrosity dmg with psyker

[hard goblet]

There's no need for a guide necessarily. Just understand that the map is arranged with various check points and chokes in mind. Typically when you press a button or drop down a path that doesn't have any way back up, that's a turning point in the progression of the mission. You don't want to go ahead or do that until everyone's ready.

[opal plank]

Im trying to complete the, "Just a flesh wound" penance. Are there ny other preachers or people trying to speedrun for it?

[twin swallow]

In that map with the giant circular area with all the vaults in which you need open to find 3 pathogens tubes to bring to the middle (not the one where you bring from the middle to the top)

How exactly do you know which vaults can be opened?

You need to go to each door control to trial and error?

[opal plank]

i think it has a red/blue light above it, not sure tho

[twin swallow]

There are lights above the vault? Damn I have to pay more attention then... Thanks

[hard goblet]

Yes, the vaults you can access will have a red light over the door.

[tepid skiff]

gentlemen, does rending blessing work on the initial hit, or is it applied like brittleness, only for consequent ones?

[open sedge]

afaik rending is armor ignore, brittleness is armor reduction (i.e rending is only for you and should apply to every hit).

brittleness is like a debuff, so first hit will apply the debuff second hit will actually benefit from the debuff and apply more if thats how the blessing happens to work

[tepid skiff]

yes, that is my understanding of the brittleness as well. but the question's about rending.

as in, does it make sense having it, say, on a rumbler, which only hit once?

[open sedge]

you're not applying anything though with rending i believe. i.e. you're ignoring armor with each hit. so you don't have to apply anything with the first hit.

[tepid skiff]

ye, that's what i'm hoping for.

[twin swallow]

Is there any point to the +1 stamina perk on ranged weapons like force staff?

[dull cradle]

What dreg am I missing?

[open sedge]

i didn't even know you could miss a dreg lol

[dull cradle]

It's been like this even from the beta so it's more than likely a glitch rather than me purposefully missing one

[hard goblet]

Mine was like that during the beta as well. Then at some point after the first desert map was added, I mysteriously got it.

[dull cradle]

Same with the omnissiah shrine achievement

[hard goblet]

Yeah, I randomly got that when I interacted with the Shrine after Refining was added.

Despite the fact I'd interacted with the shrine for consecrating before.

[signal cipher]

Hmm I've noticed something

When upgrading your weapons, sometimes the score for your baseline stats just goes down for some reason, in not sure if that's a bug or not

[hard goblet]

It's a known display bug.

[signal cipher]

Mmm good to know

[cinder igloo]

Anyone got a quick chart on the drop rates of cubes vs steel per mission diff?

[pseudo sail]

Is the penance untouchable bugged?

[tepid skiff]

if it is, it's only recently. generally speaking it should work fine.

[pseudo sail]

hmm...did a run without taking damage but it didnt unlock

[tired canyon]

Are secondary objective rewards scaled by difficulty?

[sand grove]

anyone willing to help me get Malleus Monstronum? Will help you with yours/other penances.

[sudden knot]

I have an old i7 4790K 4.0GHz with 8 threads, but why Darktide only identify maximum 6?

[frail gyro]

Is there a list of the differences between weapon marks?
e.g. Kantrael XII = higher dmg/lower ROF

[hard goblet]

See the pinned messages in #veteran-class .

[torpid ruin]

If only they gave the veteran sharpshooter a scope with more magnification than 1x -___-

[versed trail]

Is there a way i can pick if i'm going to fight Dregs or Scabs?

[nova fractal]

Are you talking about the weekly contract?

[versed trail]

Sadly, I still need to murder roughly 750 Scabs

[nova fractal]

So what is it you're asking? I'm kind of confused by the question. Are you asking if you can reroll the task to either dreg or scab kills?

[versed trail]

No, in my experience i was either fighting Scabs or Dregs inside of missions and i was asking if there are ways where i can pick a mission to fight specifically Scabs

[nova fractal]

ahh, okay. I didn't notice any missions that had more enemy types over the other. Think it's just RNG.

[versed trail]

Yeah I was afraid that it's something like that

I still need a couple Dreg kills but i need a disproportionate amount of Scab kills

[nova fractal]

is it the melee kill ones?

[versed trail]

Both

[nova fractal]

oof

[versed trail]

I'm roughly half way down with both

but generally i'm not a fan of weekly contracts anyway. Complete X missions is ok, Killing X monstrosities is fine too since you don't have to be the one dealing the killing blow, but the rest are just annoying to deal with

Pick up Books just makes you rush forward so you can be the one picking up the book since it doesn't count if someone else does it
Kill 750 enemies of that half with melee or ranged is eh if you don't have the time
Complete secondaries in X mission is just bullshit when you can't pick the difficulty or even the missions if you're not lucky

[warm nebula]

Pick Up Books does count your teammates books. What it doesn’t count, is when you all only picked up 2/3 scrips or 1/2 grims

You must… Collect Them All ™️®️

[versed trail]

So it counts if i'm either carrying a book to the end or if we complete the secondary?...

Because I have gotten "book points" for simply carrying one to the end

[warm night]

It has been counting single pick ups for a while. I can't speak for after the last hotfix though.

[warm nebula]

Perhaps it’s both

I.e. if your teammates are carrying all the rest of the books, it’ll count them

[versed trail]

So I get all 3 / 2 counted?

[lunar ferry]

Does anyone else observe FPS drops when playing with friends overseas (i.e. higher latency)

[versed trail]

FPS shouldn't happen, ping yes

[warm nebula]

There’s no way I picked up all 12 scrips to finish that mission, is where I’m coming from

[lunar ferry]

Yeah I know it shouldn't happen but it definitely is which is why I'm asking if anyone else plays with distant friends has it, if it's a game problem or something weird with my machine

[warm nebula]

The frame rate will drop when someone begins connecting to your game, or so I believe. Usually it just stutters for a moment and then recovers

[versed trail]

I wonder if killing Scabs in Dregs in the Meatgrinder counts towards the weekly

[warm nebula]

But if they have a poor connection, I could believe the frame rate would be poor for a period of time

[versed trail]

but what I should wonder more if that would be actually effective in terms of grinding

[warm nebula]

If the result is them constantly dropping the connection and having to reconnect, that could cause bad frame rates.

I always get a frame rate dip in the Valkyrie flying into the mission

It’s almost like the game has to search for the cosmetic data for your teammates characters… and it kinda drops everything else on the floor while it rummages in the game files for that data

In other words, your drip causes memory leaks

[cinder igloo]

Sadly, probably not. Just based on the knowledge that it is required to 'complete' a mission for the kills to actually count, even if the popup appears in game.

[versed trail]

I'm gonna try anyway

Like murder 5 Scabs and see if I get anything

[rigid wasp]

bruh I just saw a Twin Stubba for the ogryn in the shop

with

12% damage stat

[versed trail]

I'm at 228

Damage stat is borderline pointless on Stubber

[rigid wasp]

Wym?

[versed trail]

Ammo and Range

[rigid wasp]

It does a ton of damage

[versed trail]

It barely raises

[patent cedar]

You can get both 4-5% health and toughness on perks correct?

[tepid skiff]

yes

[versed trail]

It doesn't

Like I got a dream for missions

But this layout is just gonna make me quit games that have Dregs when I have to do only Scabs

[hard goblet]

Just to be clear, the pick up grims/scriptures require the team to complete the mission. Any pickups are counted for everyone. So it's not you have to individually pick up 25 scriptures. You can get a maximum of 3 scriptures towards the weekly every mission.

[hard goblet]

In my experience, the proportions have been relatively close enough that you don't need to care about focusing one or the other.

[versed trail]

i meeaaan if i combine the time and the time left i only have a small fraction left

[hard goblet]

The density of both types of enemies on Heresy or higher is extremely high.

[uneven bough]

those melee/ranged objectives take a few missions to complete without even trying as any kills by the team count

[hard goblet]

That too.

Your teammates contribute towards your weeklies.

[versed trail]

Yeah but i'm not even rank 20 with vet

wait they do?

[hard goblet]

Yes.

[versed trail]

I was going carbine Vet just to farm ranged enemies

[hard goblet]

Well, you're Veteran so you ideally should be farming ranged enemies anyway.

[silk grove]

Will bot's pick up grimoires and scriptures?

[kind zephyr]

When are 'Flash' Missions available?

[rigid wasp]

Dude some people are SO dumb in this game

[warm nebula]

It me

[rigid wasp]

are you the dude who singlehandedly ruined our heresy mission by starting the final obj

before our veteran got a chance to heal at medicae

so they full died almost instantly

[silk grove]

Phew - I thought that comment was directed at me for not knowing about bot's.

[rigid wasp]

bruh I shit you not I just carried the fuck out of my team with ogryn

and then some absolute tool ruins it at the very end by flipping the chasm logistraum switch before we're ready

I mean heresy difficulty is not that hard

[warm nebula]

It wasn’t me… this time

[rigid wasp]

if I can carry with a level 22 ogryn, these idiots should be able to be semi-decent with max level veterans and psykers

[warm nebula]

I do have a tendency to smash the like mission progression button

[warm nebula]

I don’t know… the game is good at matchmaking, and I don’t have bots in my game for long

In VT2 there was a way to tag the books, to tell a bot to pick it up

[ocean flower]

At the moment? No, the only things bots interact with are medicae and ammo

I think ammo, anyways

They might just have unlimited

[warm nebula]

Presumably that would be ported from VT2 to DT solo play… if_we_had_one.gif

[silk grove]

Thank you.

[rigid wasp]

"Low intensity engagement zone"

Yeah right

almost 10 ragers, 2 ogryns, a sniper, 4 shotgunners, and a plague ogryn, along with a horde

all in one room

The first room of the mission pretty much actually

[uneven bough]

doesn't it say fewer but more intense encounters

at least it used to

[rigid wasp]

nope

[cinder igloo]

I'm glad low intensity exists so my terrible ass can get through pug missions

[ocean flower]

The first room often has the most aggressive spawns of the game, in my experience

[neat jacinth]

Low intensity honestly feels like it's high intensity, pretty much

[cinder igloo]

my least favorite map with the worst modifier, but why does it say I've only cleared it up til malice?

is it per-character now?

because i know i cleared dreyko on damnation or heresy before.

actually I can just check myself, sec.

wait the mission doesnt show up on my psyker

What the fuck

???

[nova fractal]

Did you clear it after the recent patch? Because it only tracks clears after the tracker was patched in

[cinder igloo]

Oh right, that may have been the case, but why doesn't it show up?

I took those screenshots within the minute

there's NO way it ran off

well, within like 3 minutes.

[nova fractal]

just some bug, it happened to me too. I had to wait for another mission to expire for it to "re-appear"

[cinder igloo]

I see.

Thanks. that helps.

[nova fractal]

too many missions occupying the screen and im assuming it just picked a random one to not show up

[cinder igloo]

okay, yeah, now it's showing

well, it was the first time I ever cleared damnation, so I do remmeber it more vividly.

but being the first, it prob did occur before the tracker. maybe.

the penance still shows the correct number of mission types cleared, so I assume I didn't just dream it up.

inb4 it was something else and I just misremembered and wrote it down wrongly.

[versed trail]

By how % does Flak reduce damage if there isn't a stat like Stopping Power on the gun listed?

[warm nebula]

Depends on the particular weapon & attack, inspect your weapon & view attack details

[versed trail]

So the Las gun doesn't lose any damage by hitting Flak but the Autogun loses basically half?...

Is there some fine print i'm missing?

[rigid wasp]

So I gotta know something

is playing the ogryn tanky with the shield bad?

[versed trail]

I want to say no but honestly i'm not sure

[rigid wasp]

It's what I've been doing all night and literally carrying teams

tank with the shield then swap to twin stubba and mow everything down

then back to tanking

rinse repeat, been carrying hard on heresy missions

[versed trail]

The ability to absorb bullets is nice and all but you can just screech at your Veteran to start shooting stuff you can't beat to death

[little coyote]

I feel the shield suffers a bit when you need to keep yourself alive in a tight spot without immediate aid from your teammates, it's heavy attacks are ultra slow so gaining bunch of toughness can be a bit tricky if pushed into a bad spot

[rigid wasp]

its not just bullets lol

[versed trail]

And Power Maul hits pretty hard

[rigid wasp]

almost nothing can hurt you

[little coyote]

but it's pretty reliable most of the time

[rigid wasp]

not even plague ogryn or daemon

[little coyote]

damage output is a bit middling

[versed trail]

i mean i like the shield

[rigid wasp]

only flamers, dogs, muties, and beast of nurgle can stop you from shield walling

[little coyote]

it's fine and I think it works very well for what it's designed to do

[versed trail]

in a perfect world (aka competent teammates) it would probably be bad

[little coyote]

and trappers

[versed trail]

The fact that dogs just jump through the shield irritates the hell out of me ngl

[little coyote]

it's not perfect against snipers either because the sniper shot goes through it and damages teammates behind you even though you don't take damage

[versed trail]

lol

but I will admit that the Power Maul does have a pretty good appeal in sheer damage output

nothing is worse when you sit there trying to kill a Rager with bleed damage while your allies don't finish him off

[little coyote]

power maul is very very good

although I still think I prefer the shovel with the perfect momentum blessing or whatever that ignores enemy mass

it's heavy 1 is so good for closing in and gaining toughness for every hit

[versed trail]

yeah i'm just level 20 with Ogryn, so my opinion will most likely change

[little coyote]

and combine it with toughness regen for every chained hit blessing and you're golden

[versed trail]

crafting when

RNJesus hates me

What I really want on my Ogryn is a Heavy Stubber with lots of crit chance and Charmed Reload

[warm nebula]

What is up with this damage #?

Both at 64% Damage bar...

Is this a Mk II vs Mk VI thing? Am Ogryn, don't know the difference...

[nova fractal]

yes it is. Check the pins in the #ogryn-class channel for more specific descriptions on them

[warm nebula]

Thx

[proud bramble]

is there a good way to do the heavyweight champion penance, i can't seem to do it correctly

[void plaza]

Get a team in the below rooms

[leaden isle]

anything better than a bolter to melt boss hp pool?

[fiery vigil]

flamer, strangely enough

[red girder]

Hey , what does damage on the modifier mean?

actuelly what do they all mean?

[gilded cove]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword/catachan-mk-vii-devils-claw-sword

[bold herald]

if I understand weapon stats correctly

even though combat axe has a good swinging arc and push

it has pretty bad cleave overall?

[red girder]

Thank you

[rough onyx]

happened around 3 times during this run till i finally clipped it, am i trolling and just need better eyes or is this some silly bug?

[uneven bough]

I've had that happen

[warm nebula]

You’re a hair too early

The window goes way late

That is, it’s super forgiving if you hit it late

[rough onyx]

ah you're right, just tested it out. thanks

[visual patrol]

Once you've hit level 30 what's the condition to get a weapon after a run? Even though there's no more levels I've noticed sometimes you get one and other times you don't. Is it random?

[warm nebula]

The Emperor gifts in mysterious ways...

[tidal heart]

its middling, its more a cc tool

but jesus does it cc things //`o"...

[hard goblet]

You are limited to 20 Emperor's Gifts per account per week. Distribution is random based on completing a mission.

[open sedge]

the existence of brutal momentum doesn't like this message. Although I'm not sure if cleave and what brutal momentum does is the exact same, combat axe (even tac axe) with the blessing will do fine against hordes

[hard goblet]

Brutal momentum essentially gives your weapon a duration of infinite cleave.

Every enemy has a hit mass value based on what type of enemy they are/what type of material you hit. This value is subtracted from your weapon's cleave value until it reaches 0 and your weapon then no longer will apply damage to further enemies for that attack.

[open sedge]

yea the part I wasn't sure about was how damage is dealt in brutal momentum, i.e. if you hit 10 enemies would they all take damage or does it still work such that most of the damage goes to the first enemy

[hard goblet]

Damage application I believe should be applied proportionallly per cleave value.

Unless your weapon has First Target as a stat bar.

I think j_sat covers this on his Darktide stat breakdown video.

[patent sapphire]

there was a video talking about it on the combat axe and apparently when brutal momentum is up every enemy after the third hit takes the same damage as the third

[visual patrol]

Why is that even a limitation? So once you've reached your weekly limit instead of being rewarded for actually playing the game you just have to wait for the shop to refresh. Do FS not want people to enjoy playing their game or something?

[bold herald]

sure, but without brutal momentum combat axe isn't great for cleaving?

do enemies still get staggered if they're within swing (if you're out of "mass" so no damage?)

[open sedge]

i will find this then :)

[hard goblet]

A hard limit on player progression = reliable baseline expected growth which is easier to map and plan out. Basically designed to make predicted player engagement metrics more reliable and easier to determine.

[rich acorn]

Why are there floors that look like floors but are holes that kill you?

[open sedge]

I think the thing here is that you pretty much always run brutal momentum on combat axe because it makes the weapon work? so... depends on what you meant by bad cleave overall

[hard goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[void plaza]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zufz8y/what_curio_perks_for_damnation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[twin swallow]

Does the "gunner" curios defense perk affect the autogun/lasgun "normal" enemies' damage?

Or are there any defense perk for those types?

[uneven bough]

it works against cultist_gunner, renegade_gunner and chaos_ogryn gunner and those are the elites

[twin swallow]

cultist gunner are those in yellow coats with the autoguns? Renegades are the lasgun guardsmen with the green goggles?

[uneven bough]

If you are referring to the elites, probably

[patent sapphire]

it works against the reaper? that’s even better than i thought lol

[fiery vigil]

Reapers don't deal any damage anyway. They're just a suppression nuisance and damage sponge.

same with gunners if you position correctly

[bold herald]

is there a more advanced version/writeup somewhere that goes through all of the weapon stats, blessings and how they interact?

[serene latch]

https://darkmass.gg/statsbreakdown/glossary

[open sedge]

is this backwards

[serene latch]

kinda

[bold herald]

ty!

[fluid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

oops

i’ll fix that soon 😄

[grand flint]

probably a stupid question but why do i just take damage through toughness sometimes

like its more than just a little chip damage its 25+ hp sometimes as much as 50

[versed trail]

Toughness is just intended to shield you from chip damage from ranged attacks
Toughness lets more through the lower it is

at least that's how i understood it

but I gotta ask: what do you people think of the shotgun?

[grand flint]

i think its underrated but i dont really do much above malice

[hard goblet]

It is how the new toughness damage mitigation mechanic works. This applies only to melee attacks. If you are at 100% of your toughness when you take a melee hit, it will absorb 100% of that melee damage. If you are at 80%, then 20% of the incoming melee damage will bleed through and apply to health instead. Etc.

[versed trail]

Like I just noticed that aiming down sights with it makes it pinpoint accurate

So it feels "better" at rapid, high damage fire at longer ranges than Bolter

[rigid wasp]

What are the different mission types?

[hard goblet]

Repair, Raid, Disruption, Strike, Assassination, Espionage, Investigation.

[rigid wasp]

Is tehre a way to check what one Im missing to complete the peance for all mission types on damnation?

[hard goblet]

Since the most recent patch, the game tracks by account which missions you've completed on what difficulty via those chevrons/skulls that show up underneath missions on the mission terminal.

[rigid wasp]

Right now its saying I have 6/7 missions completed for the penance, but it doesnt say what Im missing to finish it

[hard goblet]

Other than the method implemented in the last patch, the only option you have is to manually track them.

[rotund ravine]

the toughness system works like this, toughness will completely block ranged damage, but melee damage gets blocked by the percentage of how much toughness you add when it initially hit.
So imagine the enemy deals 100 damage and you have 100% toughness, all the damage will go the toughness.
But the same attack when you only have 75% of your toughness will deal 25 Hp damage and 75 toughness damage(each would actually be 150 after melee hit modifier on toughness). so on and so forth.
Also keep in mind melee attacks have a higher damage multiplier vs toughness, if the enemy attack where to deal 50 damage, your toughness will actually take 100 damage, but if you had no toughness and took that hit, it would only deal its regulars damage of 50.

[rigid wasp]

The method in the last patch only tracks missions, not mission types

[rigid wasp]

So question

is stacking extra toughness worth it?

do you get to a point where you can take multiple melee hits without taking health damage

[rotund ravine]

depends, on my veteran i like taking at least 1 toughness curio, but i also expect getting shot a little as i work to snipe the enemy ranged, toughness is great ranged damage mitigatory, it isn't bad to have.

[versed trail]

Note that most feats and and blessings regenerate %'s of toughness and not a set number

[little coyote]

having more than your max toughness lets you tank at least one melee hit without getting bleedthrough damage

[versed trail]

so while a enemy might need to deal more damage to get higher bleed through, it's not harder for you to regenerate more of it

[rotund ravine]

and no, having a lot of toughness will help mitigate more damage of the second hit, while giving more ranged protection, and since most regen is % based more toughness is always better than standard, how you avoid taking damage from multiple melee hits is to regen your toughness before you get hit again, by fighting it out.

just remember the game uses you current % of max toughness to dictate how much hp damage you take, if you still have 97% toughness you will only take 3% hp damage, i don't know how they calculate damage if the bleed trough is less than 1.

[versed trail]

Ok i gotta ask who came to the decision to not give us the ability to change classes in a lobby

Since I, as a Sharpshooter, was basically the only guy somewhat handling the frontline while i had the displeasure to play with 3 Psykers

I'm not even blaming the players for playing Psyker, since none of us had the ability to know that we were going to have that lineup of classes

[serene latch]

easier to not implement it

[versed trail]

Like i'm gonna draw comparisons to Deep Rock.
In that game you can change classes any time while in the lobby. XP is still split between the individual classes, but currency is shared to not punish the players for adapting to the current situation inside a lobby

I had the opposite the other day too. 3 Ogryns and 1 low level Zealot.
Suddenly Sniper happened and none of us could do anything about them

[rotund ravine]

ye is annoying, the best i can do is have multiple load outs for each class to be able to fill in, but that only works if i go into the lobby screen instead of intantly into the mission :(

and limit my self to only the most all around builds i can make for solo play :(

[rigid wasp]

I tell you what is annoying

people being unable to do heresy difficulty

[serene latch]

i get that, most of the time i feel like i get matched with newbies who doing it for the first time after diff2 farming

[rigid wasp]

it's honestly such an easy mode

[topaz lark]

bruh, lvl17s in heresy lobbies are an instant ragequit moment for me at this point

its not that lvl30 is a hard requirement, but such people inevitably die on the first pack

[rigid wasp]

you don't even need to be 30

You gotta have a brain

like I'm in a heresy match right now with a zealot who has died twice

is using a combat axe and revolver

[rotund ravine]

i mean if its a mk V combat axe with brutal momentum then its a solid build, if the axe doesn't have that then its crap :O

still dying twice is bad

[pure marsh]

Yeah nah one of you weapons has to be able to clear hordes that aint it theyre probably trying to take advantage of crucian roulette applying to melee too

[topaz lark]

i've seen so many people aggro a daemonhost seemingly by mistake and instantly dying

at this point I just propose to tank it beforehand

[pure marsh]

I go flamer knife because i like the speed and having horde clear when needed and being able to deal with armor as well

Rolled quickflame and reload speed and ive been set on my zealot

[rigid wasp]

dude I've tried to do this same heresy mission 4 times

and every single time there is just a clueless zealot on my team

[tired coyote]

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to Everyone!!!! 🎄 🎄 🎄

[pure marsh]

tbh i feel like a lot of it is that malice dosent make you leartn stuff you need on hearsy

[rigid wasp]

Idk man

I played the same game as everyone else and I'm not getting killed 4 times a match

I'll be unlucky if I go down 1 or 2 times a match if that if the spawns are REALLY ass

One more class to level up just got my level 7 psyker to go then I have all of them at 30

[hard goblet]

It's more that it's not as punishing if you make a mistake. So most people don't really get into the mindset of "I should stop losing half my health during the first horde".

[pure marsh]

nah you can brute force malice and lower and getting caught out in a bad spot rarely results in a down like in hearsy because you characters are strong enough by themselfs to fight their way out alotta times

[hard goblet]

Yeah, that's what I said. Malice isn't as punishing if you make a mistake.

[rigid wasp]

Heresy really isn't that hard at all you just have to think

I just did a heresy mission with my level 7 psyker

Super easy

Semi-competent teammates and you're golden

[open sedge]

not to say i disagree with your point but I was under the impression the coherency regen (which is a decent portion of your regen) was a flat value of 5/s? or is it not

[rotund ravine]

it has a delay after you get hit, don't remember the amount

hmmm i have to find the file again

[open sedge]

Point being if its a flat amount then stacking more toughness doesn't affect that aspect. I mostly play preacher so stacking more toughness is still better of course for stuff like EWEW and chastise itself, which restore based on % values. I assume other classes have similar % toughness gain options so toughness is still better

[rotund ravine]

ah i see, ye, i suppose that sucks, but the killing enemies in melee is the main way to get the toughness back, and that one is a percentage as well.

cohesion regen doesn't usually kick in fast enough in a pinch, but i did say all regen is % based and cohesion isn't :O

edited it to most from all! most lazy fix ever!

[bold herald]

are servers awful right now?

[rough sparrow]

YES

[teal kernel]

Yo guys, where do you go to look for premades? Need help speedrunning for a preacher penance

[nova fractal]

in the #vox-lfg-lexicanum section

[teal kernel]

cheers m8

[brittle vessel]

what to do after reaching lvl 30 like i have nothing to do anymore i dont even wanna play

[grave cave]

that's common

[hard goblet]

The slow realization that the game's combat, audio, and visuals are the only well designed parts.

[rigid wasp]

Is the cleave stat on this evis too low, or is it passable?

[brittle vessel]

do u have game recommendation

from steam discounts ?

or general

[hard goblet]

Dwarf Fortress.

[brittle vessel]

that game is so complicated

i cant do it

[hard goblet]

Risk of Rain 2.

[brittle vessel]

i have it

played it

[gilded cove]

The mission where you grab ammo off the train, that's a raid mission, right?

[thick jasper]

anyone getting backend errors?

[twin swallow]

Are there any other weapon type/blessing combos which work extremely well together like Antax MkV and Brutal Momentum?

[rich acorn]

checking in on an attack?

[hard goblet]

Yes.

[thick jasper]

what do you mean?

[brittle vessel]

should i buy back4blood

seems goodie

there is a pvp also

[edgy wedge]

reach level thirty on four other characters

haha

i truly have nothing left to do now

[edgy wedge]

absolutely not

I played the alpha, beta, and full game

and I can tell you

the game actively got worse over time

it branched out and made continuously weird design choices because it wanted to be different from left 4 dead, but also desperately wanted to market itself as left 4 dead

[hard goblet]

It's a bad game, I wouldn't.

[brazen ingot]

I played like 60 hours of the back4blood beta for free and almost bought the full game cause I liked the card-based build idea and stuff

Glad I didn't, that card system proved to be extremely broken and eventually the game became a speedrun-fest

Where you run past everything

[brittle vessel]

i cant find a game to play anymore

not a single good game coming out

im gonna throw my computer from the window

[brazen ingot]

There's plenty of good games from the past

[brittle vessel]

and do irl sport things one day

4fun

[brittle vessel]

yea could be but mehh idk

i play solo so it gets boring

[brittle vessel]

hmm oke i will not buy it

im playin dark and darker

play test its good

like couple of days

[simple valley]

Hey guys, what time/day do weekly contracts reset?

[bold herald]

is toughness damage reduction perk still in the game? I see it in a couple guides but haven't seen the stat myself

[cyan wind]

what motivates pugs to queue for heresy+ when they

're only 19 or 20 I wonder

[junior cairn]

Maybe it's their 3rd or 4th character.
I did heresy runs at level 10 when i was doing my 4th character

[toxic citrus]

Been looking but haven't found an answer; When trying to push your gear score pre-30, does item level only look at the grey score?

or should you be buying the absolute highest for that

[hard goblet]

Neither. The only thing that determines the range of items you can see in the Armory is your character's level.

[toxic citrus]

Oh, huh, then it's been a waste of money to be buying stuff so regularly lol

thanks

[versed trail]

You'll be drowning in credits as soon as you play Malice or higher

[twin swallow]

How do you play Ogryn? It's feels like the very act of playing Ogryn is just making life harder for the other 3 non-Ogryn members...

Like if I don't smack the packs around with my shield or knock them all over the place with my grenade gauntlet, the psyker or zealot will probably blow/cleave them all up in much shorter a time...

If I try to tank the berserker I just end up body-blocking the Vet's shots

which will probably take them down in a few seconds

[warm nebula]

Drake_no: Bull Rushing into enemy packs, breaking coherency
Drake_this: Bull Rushing towards a downed teammate to knock all the enemies back and pick them up

Ogryn is tall so Ogryn can shoot over little ‘uns heads

Ogryn is back-line-er

[twin swallow]

But other than the Gatling you only get like 30~40 rounds-ish in total...

[warm nebula]

Save em for the rare enemies

Your job is to bonk the snivellers off ov the vet so he can shoot 100% of the time

When vet is 100% dakka uptime, things will die

[twin swallow]

Hmmm, so just hang around behind the Vet?

[warm nebula]

Yep, and mark targets for wallhack / vet shoot shiny things

[twin swallow]

Ok I will try that out, any weapon combination recommendations for that role? Still Shield/Gauntlet?

[warm nebula]

To be honest, I’m not familiar with every Ogryn melee weapon, especially shield. I don’t like the reduced vision it gives me

Gauntlet is very good. Twin stubber is good horde-clear if you want to double-down on your role as trash mob control

I like Paul the power maul, and I also like the cleaver recently

But shield is good for meme-tanking the dh

Your allies can’t accidentally trigger the dh and die if you trigger it first and tank with your shield 4head.gif

Plus, that meme where Ogryn is having a snack behind the shield 🤣

[twin swallow]

lol ok, I will go try the cleaver for a bit then, gotten quite bored of the shield smacking tbh

the power maul is the same as Zealot crusher? Just power up and light attack to stun lock?

[warm nebula]

No, just heavy attack

Heavy is horizontal swings

Power up + light attack is a no horny vertical bonk

Light attack in general is bonk down > bonk up > (I don’t remember exactly…)

[twin swallow]

Ok I will go test the cleaver and the maul out, thanks for the detailed answer!

[warm nebula]

Go for Ogryn! Protec’ da little ‘uns!

[versed trail]

How fast does Surgical ramp up?

My current bolter has surgical (3% while aiming, up to 5 times) and increase crit chance but there is also a bolter with just more weak spot damage and +5% power for every enemy stagger (which is easy with Bolter)

[tight bane]

anyone know the cleave amount of a powered-up power sword?

[sharp bramble]

People can't stoop running into trouble drawing everything in diff 4...

[tepid perch]

there was nothing i could do to get my bolter to crit past point blank, with deadshot and surgical 3. it's either bugged, or useless

[tight bane]

with a 0% cleave stat?

[cold moon]

You can inspect the power sword cleave stat and will show a number value for the number of unarmored targets it can cut through.

Power Sword estimated to cut through 8-10 targets when powered up based on the changes to the weapon from Update 6: The Signal.
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/community-update-6-signal-update/68741

[tight bane]

This is with 80% cleave

I suspect this is the regular swings

[cold moon]

Yeah, you are probably right on that.

Not too sure given broad context for stats.

[warm nebula]

Where's the info about Grimoire Corruption again? Does anyone have the link handy?

Ah, found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zhu85k/grimoire_corruption_explained_and_why_corruption/

"Note: Corruption Resistance (Grimoires) is currently completly bugged. It is not even reducing the corruption ticking damage." -15 days ago

RIP diamantine

also, "Unable to perform operation."

But I have enough diamantine for one more reroll?

feelsbadman

[restive wren]

Completing a mission from start to finish after a complete restart, that fixed it for me.

[red girder]

Hi is there a recommended end game wep for psyker that i'm looking for?

[topaz lark]

anything that you are effective with

[serene latch]

why do people even ask that

like you're supposed to get familiar with all the weapons till you hit 30

see what works and not

[red girder]

Becouse , the grind is horrible and buying somthing that doesn't work is just tidius..

[topaz lark]

I can agree on the grind

but I will recommend tying out stuff to see what you like

as for ready-made builds, there are current 2 common variations

you either run forcesword for elites and flamer for horde
or you run axe/dueling sword with kinetic deflector for horde and surge staff for elites

that covers about 90% of psykers I see

surge is used mainly to stunlock packs of elites so your resident veteran can shoot them

[red girder]

this staff is in the shop and i manly use fire , but if it's just obsolite becouse if i wait for next refresh somthing a lot better comes along

[topaz lark]

its exactly middle of the road on base rating

for flamer staff stat order is
burn > radius > damage > everything else

[red girder]

Oki thank you!

[topaz lark]

reasoning behind it is simple

aoe almost doubles, dot damage almost doubles, while direct damage increases by at best 60%

[red girder]

That is a great explanation thank you !

[wanton frigate]

both item have same stats, appear in the same shop, but at different rating and price. is this a bug or a feature? 🤔

[sleek nest]

how do i know which mission i haven't done yet?

[tough pumice]

I need help getting 70 enemies charged and the 6 ogryns charged penances

[topaz lark]

thats a "feature"

curio's main blessing scales in steps (if at all)

in this particular case "+x wounds" blessing can only be at 1 no matter the rating

[terse crow]

Ok, so how the hell do I aggro a demonhost 35m away by detoning a grenade about that distance from it?

Like, is it just way more sensitive now? And why the hell did it spawn at the very beginning of a level 3?

[tough pumice]

They spawn at all levels I think

[vagrant edge]

They technicly can always be avoided

But there range is a bit buggy sometimes

[feral gust]

1. Do "blocks" negate 100% of melee damage from Maulers/Crushers/ragers?
   2, Do "blocks" work against hounds? What about Psyker "blocks"?

[feral gust]

and turn off the flashlight.

[wanton frigate]

is a 360 rating white gun worth upgrade all the way to orange?
or should I wait for a 490 ish purple?

[quick remnant]

Well base rating is at 380 max, so you're most likely better off taking the White one (at least if thr base is higher than the other base)

[wanton frigate]

guess I'll try my luck. hope it can reach 520 😂

[restive wren]

Quick question: "Scab Picker" The Penance. Do only MY Scab-Kills count or all those of my squad ?

[limpid sphinx]

anyone know how to get the killshot punishment uniform ? I have the killshot duty uniform from the challenge already

[hard goblet]

Only yours.

[restive wren]

Do assists count?

[hard goblet]

1. Only if you have stamina I believe.
2. No.

[hard goblet]

I don't believe so.

[restive wren]

Ok thx.

[hard goblet]

If I remember correctly, it's from the next tier of difficulty for those penances? One set being on Malice, the next requiring Heresy difficulty?

[bold herald]

what difficulty do you farm for plasteel? is it pretty clearly a higher-tier = better rewards?

[hard goblet]

Plasteel is bottlenecked. The ratio of it to diamantine doesn't increase much in higher difficulties.

Malice is the most reliable farming difficulty.

Higher difficulties don't reward much more plasteel. You generally get more diamantine instead. Purposeful design decision.

[open sedge]

that being said damnation does, supposedly, give you more.

[bold herald]

hmm I have a weird ratio right now (1:1) so I guess that might just be out of balance for a while

[open sedge]

its just whether you can consistently clear damnation

it will only continue to become more unbalanced unless they change the distribution. bunch of people at 5000+ diamantine and almost no plasteel, personally i'm sitting at ~2500 and no plasteel.

its rather fuckced

[bold herald]

oh that's awkward

[ashen ingot]

i think my lex vigilant penance is bugged

[grave radish]

I read somewhere one of the curio's corruptiopn resistance is bugged (grimoires?) is that still true?

[open sedge]

bugged in a sense yes. essentially grimoires have a target corruption that they apply when you pick them up, which is 40 hp. All corruption resistance does for that initial 40HP is reduce the speed of the initial rapid buildup upon grabbing them, it doesn't change the fact that its 40HP. corruption resist does work on the incremental tick afterwards though.

so if you have 2 grimoires it'll be -80 max HP even with 45% resist or 0

[grave radish]

so does normal corruption resist help with grim ticks and all other sources of corruption? or does normal corruption resist help with everything but grims, and grim corruption is the only way to reduce those ticks

[blazing star]

Having trouble getting the Vantage Point penance
I've got a max level sharpie, very confident I've played through all 7 mission types, but it's stuck on 6/7. Is there any way to tell which mission I have left?

[lilac heron]

anyone know how to fully disable subtitles? shit keeps enabling on start

[ashen ingot]

grim resistance = bugged, does nothing
corrupt resistance = does help against the corruption over time you get from grims

[hard goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zhu85k/grimoire_corruption_explained_and_why_corruption/

[gilded cove]

So, are bots considered to just be completely useless on heresy+? Snipers seem to just absolutely deconstruct a team if you don't have a way to kill them at long range yourself.