gameplay-help

[frosty knot]

malice

rip

[verbal wyvern]

its damnation

[frosty knot]

plasteel? damnation has more diamantine

[verbal wyvern]

check the chart

[rigid wasp]

consequences of my own action

[frosty knot]

where can i see the chart?

[verbal wyvern]

here

[tired wagon]

I forget but what was the meaning of these winged green symbols underneath the mission selections?

[west echo]

the highest difficulty you've done the mission on

[tired wagon]

Thanks.

[placid wharf]

If I were to go from game pass to steam is there a way to copy over my progress from game pass?

[topaz dawn]

lol?

[serene latch]

epic transformation

[rough onyx]

saw a video of someone meleeing a reaper on a platform above them and the hitmarkers going off, is this a bug?

[untold phoenix]

That's just how Tide melee works

It's always been that way

[rough onyx]

oh shit didnt know

thanks

[untold phoenix]

You can also melee people through walls and doors

[topaz lark]

and so can enemies

[rough onyx]

oh....

[untold phoenix]

Oh yeah haha so watch out

They will normally not do it but if you stand in certain positions next to walls they will

Just keep your head on a swivel, yeah?

[serene latch]

it's VT Engine

[nocturne hinge]

does anybody know, where / how to equip such things like an inquisitorial rosette? I would have expected it in accessoires, but there is nothing to select

[topaz lark]

if you mean the one you got from finishing the story, its a weapon accessory

equipped in weapon appearance menu

[hollow flame]

Question: How do I improve the quality of items in the shop? I'm level 30, and they seem to have no correlation to the gear I have.

[topaz lark]

you dont

[hollow flame]

I heard rumors that it's based off the gear you already have... is that not true?

[topaz lark]

there is no concrete data on how it is generated, but seems to be based entirely on your level

[nocturne hinge]

thanks, didn't knew, that it was a weapon appearance. I still have the yellow dot in cosmetics and saw some people with some insignias as neclace, so I thought it is somehow invisible

[hollow flame]

That's... painful but good to know

Can't edge it up like in vermintide

[topaz lark]

seems regrettably so

[hollow flame]

I have a 468 weapon, and my shop doesn't have anything over 400

[topaz lark]

dont bother with overall rating

what matters is base rating

[topaz lark]

that is a common bug

[hollow flame]

Is this worth getting? Losing the crit chance seems painful... but... better stats

[untold phoenix]

6% crit is really small

If you want the new one you should get it

Besides, you can just keep both and see how it feels

[patent sapphire]

i suspect that once you hit 30 the base rating of your shop rolls will never go below 300 and it’s rng how far above 300 you get

[high hearth]

I would say stay with what you have now. It is not that much improvement anyway.

[fair sequoia]

I wish we could get plasteel from diamantine

I have like 2k Diamantine and 0 plasteel lmao

[paper holly]

^ this so hard

They should make bartering always give dockets and let you dismantle gear at Crafting Station for plasteel

[hard goblet]

I've seen base ratings as low as 280 in the armory before despite being level 30. It's just RNG.

[round coral]

Do the weekly "kill X enemies with Range/melee" count for the whole team's kills, or just your character's?

[bitter gust]

Just you

[serene latch]

whole team

[topaz lark]

its broken right now, so who knows

[echo kiln]

^^This

[spark condor]

Is there a chat or anything for penances? Specifically for trying to kill a monster without teammates shooting it.

[echo kiln]

Advice: here
Teammates: #vox-lfg-lexicanum and make sure you're specific about what you need.

[long citrus]

What? Higher damage%, lower actual damage?

[nova fractal]

Are they the same weapon types?

[long citrus]

They're both MKV axe (I was looking at flamethrower, and brain wire crossed)

[stone condor]

Is there something you guys recommend i change on this gun?

[nova fractal]

maybe perks are affecting it?

[west echo]

need to show all the stats. Damage is also affected by other things (in the case of Mk V axe, First Target)

[nova fractal]

ah yes, forgot about that

[long citrus]

Ah, so that's why. The blue Axe got 68% on first target, purple got 75%

[west echo]

yep, that'd be it

[patent sapphire]

first target is a multiplier to the damage on the first thing you hit and that is reflected in the number

[long citrus]

Feels rather annoyingly deceptive.

[patent sapphire]

it’s confusing but if you go to the inspect screen they give a shitload of detail about everything

[fossil nest]

Is there any way to play specific maps/missions like in Vermintide? Cause for some reason Me and my mate are not getting the repair-mission and would like to complete the mission-penance thing where you have to play all 7...

[long citrus]

Yea, the multiplier is only x1.13 for 75%, which feels very negligible, compared to the blue axe, which damage only drops 1~2 points?

[long citrus]

I'm in the same boat, and unfortunately no. Just sit and wait. (Funnily enough, I'm also waiting on Repair)

[hard goblet]

Hahaha, no.

Fatshark wants you to spend more time in the game.

[fossil nest]

Oh boy... I hope they are going to add that in... it is annoying I played for 30 hours and no repair mission even seen yet

[long citrus]

Spend more time either idle, or actually play the game to boost player count.

[hard goblet]

Looks nice on their user metrics sections for their investor reports.

[hard goblet]

Don't count on them ever adding this. It would go against the basis of the gameplay model they designed.

[long citrus]

There are about 5 missions to expire in 5~10 mins. So one can hope @fossil nest

[steady acorn]

How to kill a boss in 5 sec ?

I have hard time doing it

[fossil nest]

not a boss just a monstrosity xD

The Ogryn is possible, the beast not so much in my experience

[patent sapphire]

bolters + volley fire + low difficulty seems like the way to go

[long citrus]

Or if the emperor wills it. Daemonhost with door.

[steady acorn]

Do I need a 4 man or I can go with bots

[long citrus]

4 man

[steady acorn]

okey Thank you

[tepid skiff]

gentlemen, do you know how exactly vet feat 'reload speed on elite kill' works?

is it a timed buff, is it reset by killing a mook afterwards, or by switching weapons?

[hot oriole]

Hello all. Do you guys any tips for Make every shot count penance?

[long citrus]

Use revolver if you're confident in your shots.
Shotgun if not.
Powersword for melee.

If encounter mini-boss, empty as much ammo as you can.
Communicate with your team, and let them know to let you spend your ammo at finale (Accumulated ammo from passive)

[fossil nest]

okay, seems repair missions was not the one missing for my penance... >.<

can I look it up anywhere what mission I have left for it? xD

[long citrus]

Future update. Currently, no.
Also aren't you looking for Heresy Repair?

[fossil nest]

just did a repair mission and it was not what I needed... I am trying to complete Mind over Matter (where you have to do atleast one of each mission type)

[long citrus]

There's one for Malice, and one for Heresy.

[fossil nest]

like I said, repair mission was not the one I had left to do, it must be anoyther type of mission 🙂

but thanks for pointing out the availability. We just did one of those ^^

[balmy whale]

if i remember correctly not all missions apear on a rotation last time i had to wait because i was missing an espionage mission

[long citrus]

Right now the game is just taunting me. 3 Repairs 1~3. I just need the Heresy one.

[sudden knot]

Servers having issue right now?

I can't connect to the Mourningstar.

[signal wharf]

Why do my sights sometimes end up this fucked up.

[quick glade]

Looks like you got a faulty minitorum lasgun lol

[signal wharf]

Thing is.

[hard goblet]

Fov bug?

[signal wharf]

It isn't like that at the imssion start.

Does getting downed just mess it up?

[neat jacinth]

Game fucks up and loads in low LOD models sometimes

[signal wharf]

what the fuck

[neat jacinth]

I've not been able to figure out what triggers it, sadly

[signal wharf]

it seems to fix it whenever I touch 'mesh quality' but then breaks again

[lyric palm]

when u reroll perks

is it possible to get 4 diamonds

if the perk rerolled starts at 3?

[rigid wasp]

Yes

[frigid hamlet]

Anyone knows what are these arrows pointing down on some mission on the map?

I dont mean low or high intensity, but the small arrows in green under some missions

[hard goblet]

#gameplay-help message

[sage cave]

highest difficulty you've beaten the mission on

[leaden berry]

Is "Ignore enemy hit mass" the same as infinite cleave?

[hard goblet]

I believe so. I think it allows you to continue cleaving rather than increasing the number of targets you can cleave through via increasing your cleave value.

[leaden berry]

Interesting. Does that mean it also increases how many targets you can cleave through before damage falloff starts? Or will a lot of them be at the minimum damage

[nimble orbit]

does all revive speed stack on curios

[urban vortex]

how do u look or view your weapon during mission ? i.e look at ogryn box while holding it.

[leaden berry]

Hold x

[urban vortex]

ahhh thanks xD

[opal mountain]

y guys know about any video explaining crafting to detail? i mean when and what to craft, for what farm and so on? i did hit 2x 30 but still crafting and golden items are fokin heretic mystery for me

or no need for video, just some wiki/reddit where stuff is explained?

[keen wasp]

well we don't have the whole crafting system unlocked yet

so i don't think anyone is releasing any in depth guide until they have it all completed

plus fatshark might change how something works by the time everything releases so until then just search and keep high 380 bases till then

[digital orbit]

Question for the refiners amongst you: Does it require an initial T4 perk to make the perk eligible for a T4 reroll? Or can a T3 roll into a T4 as well?

[digital orbit]

Also, I did not know this, holy fudge this will make farming those last missions on heresy so much easier @-@

[keen wasp]

from what i've rerolled it can bump from t3 to t4

[digital orbit]

Oh shoot, I gotta roll some more then

[keen wasp]

thank god the cost turns free

[digital orbit]

Yeh, I have 3 curios that are free at this point, might as well roll the same perk into a T4

[keen wasp]

be warned only tested on weapons

curios seem to have their own shenanigans where some perks are max at t3

[digital orbit]

Huh.

[keen wasp]

also t4 doesn't mean max roll, cus i had once something that was 1% off from max and it considered it t4

again on weapons

[sage cave]

no yeah you can swap t3 to t4 no problem on curios

[untold badger]

How does one set up a private game with less than 4 people but no bots?

[patent sapphire]

you don’t

you could let them die i guess

[untold badger]

That's a shame

[sharp perch]

does anyone here know why when each time i launch the games some of my keybinding keep reset and does not stay as i setting ?

[modern holly]

Anyone else playing with a controller and find the recoil on some guns to be absolutely insane. Don't feel it on too many, but say like Infantry guns for the Vet, it's almost unfair compared to mouse and keyboard. Like suddenly going on controller just gives it the most artificial and obnoxious recoil possible

moment I go to MKB, it's insanely smooth

[frail breach]

does anyone know how I can buy individual cosmetic items in the bundles? I see their prices but I can't seem to buy them

[remote compass]

nope, it's just a marketing gimmick
showing individual prices and how the bundle is cheaper than the sum of its parts
I think

though I wish I could, too

[frail breach]

yeah thanks someone else confirmed too. Just more predataory scumminess from the new Fatshark I guess. Thanks though

[remote compass]

feel free to call out Steam on this, too, it uses it for all its bundles as well
even shows nice percentages of saved money

[frail breach]

Guys you can actually buy them individually, you have to "inspect" the item then buy it! 😄 Hooray for no scumminess!!!

[pure patio]

Hey i never understood this as people keep recomending to go for higher modifier rating as thats the prio number one.
If we compare these two weapon the modifier that does more damage is the one that have less modifier rating vs the one that has higher.
Its 178 dmg vs 450 damage ( higher modifier rating weapon does less damage ) and was wondering does it also depend on which damage you have on your primary action?

As most youtube video the ones that I have watched rarely mention primary action damage.

[olive magnet]

yes ive gotten 5%

Are there any Ogryns that wanna group up with me and facetank a daemonhost for 90% BB penance? i consistently clear heresy

[nova fractal]

those are the same picture

[gilded flare]

Yes its possible

[patent sapphire]

can you take perk that starts at not tier 4 and roll a tier 4 perk?

[gilded flare]

Yes you can

its just rng

Rolling the max role can take some spamming but after some slams it becomes free so you can just continue till you get what you want

[patent sapphire]

how many rolls does it take before it’s free?

not bad i suppose

[gilded flare]

18 roles

Look at this beauty.

To bad the Toughness is not 5%

[pure patio]

oh lol ddint see that, good u pointed it out.

[nova fractal]

those are 2 different weapon types. MG XII is the heavy hitter but slow fire rate, while the MG la has a faster fire rate but does less damage. Still don't know where you got the 178 dmg vs 450 dmg number from. Maybe you linked the wrong pictures?

[gilded flare]

I know but it's still the best options imo

Nah deff not.

I don't need block eff because I use camo on veteran it's omega busted. You get ignored by every single mob besides sniper and hound. You can stand still and swing your sword and even if a enemy hits towards you (through your player model) you won't get hit. And reviving is fast enough as it is imo.

[feral gust]

What do you think is the Max Weapon Base? 400?

[gilded flare]

Yea I think it's 400 for modifiers.

[feral gust]

Before modifiers.?

[gilded flare]

What do you mean, before?

[pure patio]

tested it in meat grinder

[feral gust]

Max Weapons Base: It feels like 400 is the max..

377 base

[gilded flare]

Yea the max for modifier base I think is 400

[nova fractal]

Which one is doing the 450 damage?

[pure patio]

heavy hitter one

[gilded flare]

Stats seem to be capped at 80%. Because I've never seen any stat about 80%. So would make sense for it to be capped at 400. But I've seen roles above 380 like a 385 earlier but if you counted up all the different stats it still rounded up at 380.

[nova fractal]

Well yes, because its the MG XII, which does more damage than the MG la. It also happens to have the 27.5% critical weak spot damage, so it will end up doing more considerable damage compared to the MG la. You can't compare the 2 since they're 2 different variants

[pure patio]

i have 20% dmg buff so numbers are diff now

[feral gust]

I don't have a lot of Diamtium, so I have to decide whether to start Consecrating my first one yet.

[echo kiln]

380 is the cap rn. Community consensus

[gilded flare]

Then I'm a happy camper

[nova fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-nut-super-nut-gif-13073710

[feral gust]

oh, I was hoping for a Rifthaven, but you don't get to choose your RNG I guess.

[echo kiln]

It that had +carapace instead of unarmoured it would be perfection

[gilded flare]

Yea. I wish it had that

[echo kiln]

You can at least roll it instead of flak

[gilded flare]

I prayed to the rng gods when I concecrated it for a second perk and I got +1 stamina..

[echo kiln]

Oof

[gilded flare]

Not sure if I prefer carapace over flak in this case tho.

Unarmoured is fixed can't get rid of that I feel like I then run into more scenario's where I'd benefit more from flak dmg.

The group I run damnation with typically doesn't rely on me killing carapace enemies. I'm just a stationary turret in camo that kills every range mob.

[nova fractal]

I feel that. But I also run a Lucius MK III and I just use that to deal with Crushers. Quick and easy 3 taps

[mystic wyvern]

Question, does a "Successful Dodge" mean when the game detects I specifically evade an attack, or just use my dodge in general?

[soft heart]

saw this on my psyker, anything particularly bad about it? because it looks really nice https://i.imgur.com/TkF5Vwh.jpeg

and there's a lasgun (semi-auto) with Infernus on my zealot....

is semi-auto infernus good?

ah, it only procs on crit so maybe not as good as a recon lasgun

[north bloom]

h ow do you rebind the blitz/G action?

[patent sapphire]

in the options menu

[north bloom]

yes, thats the one

never seems to stick

[patent sapphire]

idk about that then, chalk it up to another bug

[north bloom]

fair enough. I was just hoping there was some trick to it

oh cool I'm finding out the bug report, feedback, and technical support channels are fakeouts and you have to go to another place and make an account instead. Not a fan.

[bold fjord]

do grimoires inflict a certain amount of corruption permanently/constantly? I thought we could cure it w medicae but within seconds of using it my max health was dropped basically back to 30%

[patent sapphire]

yes

[soft heart]

yes, they inflict a set percentage of your health in immediate corruption then continuously apply more over time

[untold quiver]

hey so me and my friend are playing psyker at malice difficulty, we both are pretty geared at level 23. We are really struggling to win. anyone got advice? i have a level 30 preacher and 2 level 20s, so its not like idk what im doing.

[soft heart]

the set percentage cannot be helped, but medicae can purge the excess earned over time

[bold fjord]

ohh didn't know about the constant corruption, good to know thanks

[wary ridge]

Actually thats a good question

Are modifiers additive or multiplicitive?

If I have two 20% resist gunners curios, is that 40% or 36%

[nova cipher]

If you're both struggling to win, I'd try setting it back a lvl to uprising and getting more familiar with the character

[patent sapphire]

hp is additive so i assume they all are

though they could do resist multiplicative

[untold quiver]

that's not really the issue, but i appreciate the help. I honestly think its teammates. I know that seems like a cop out, but if we do a private lobby, we do better with ai than on public servers.

[keen wedge]

ogryn brothers are currently engaged in an argument over semantics so I thought I'd ask here. any idea which stubber to keep if I'm going for Charmed Reload/Blaze Away blessings?

[long citrus]

The purple looks better in every aspect + align with what you're trying to go for? Seems straight forward and no-brainer.

[keen wedge]

oh waiiiit elites are ogryns AND maulers

[keen wedge]

oh shit that's exactly what I wanted to kill haha ok thanks. i'll reroll the stamina perk for crit chance then

[tepid skiff]

all y'all ripper mains are gonna get giddy when gun lugger class drops, I'm sure.

in the meantime i can't see the appeal. ripper is too involved, too all-out. gimme gg or rumbler snapshots any time, and then back to thumping.

[proven dune]

Still waiting for a voidstrike staff update to drop 😒

[spare tangle]

Anyone have any advice on how to get the going out with a boom penance done for psyker?

[tepid skiff]

get 3 elites that is? play high intensity heresy, try to go for ranged elites more than the melee ones. they're softer. wear a force sword to slow the passive quell. but it's still mostly luck.

[spare tangle]

Yeah

[long citrus]

Is the Emperor trolling me?

[tepid skiff]

do you actually use a kickback? what's it good for?

[long citrus]

I don't, I just got it as an Emperor's gift. And was a bit dumbfounded.

[tepid skiff]

well, it'll be a decent crafting fodder at some point, at least.

[hard goblet]

I'm just anticipating Fatshark saying you can only apply a blessing to the same weapon model it was stripped from.

That'd be a great way to continue to tie everything back into the RNG store.

So you still have to farm for copies of the exact same weapon you want blessings for.

Force people to consecrate more weapons to try to farm for the right blessings.

[tepid skiff]

that's how it'll be most likely, yes.

with votives upgrading like 3 to 1, or something.

[full loom]

Hiya, anyone know if bots can set off Daemonhosts?

[rigid wasp]

oh they most certainly can

bots set them off a lot more than players

[hard goblet]

They absolutely can.

[full loom]

Why? That seems really dumb

[hard goblet]

Likely it's something FS hadn't considered or didn't think players would care about.

Or rather, there wouldn't be enough players who cared to have it be a development issue.

[tough nymph]

On controller, what's the button that brings up the little messages?

[wary ridge]

Why cant bots pick up scriptures 😛

I found all 3 scriptures in a solo round the other day, was pretty upset

(Was public, just nobody joined)

Couldnt bots pick up books in vermintide?

[stoic apex]

If I have like Mk I version of a weapon, how do I get the others like Mk II, Mk III, etc.? I feel like I've stopped getting new kinds of weapons as rewards for a while

[empty haven]

they're gradually unlocked in the shops, you just have to keep playing until the RNG decides not to hate you.

[hard goblet]

The ping wheel?

[ruby sentinel]

when you consecrate an item does the blessing level increase or do they stay the same?

[nova fractal]

They stay the same. The feature to upgrade a blessing has not been released yet

[hard goblet]

Consecration only increases the rarity of a weapon by one tier and adds a random perk or blessing dependent upon what tier you're consecrating the weapon to.

i.e Upgrading to blue will add 1 blessing. Upgrading to purple will add 1 perk. Upgrading to orange will add 1 blessing.

The tier of the perks and blessings added is entirely random.

[tough nymph]

Yeah

[hard goblet]

If you go through the tutorial in the meat grinder, does it not give you the controller button prompts instead?

I'm trying to look it up and the closest I've found is LB/L1 for tagging.

[tough nymph]

Thanks!

[echo cape]

do anyone know how to fix this ugly shadows?

[echo cape]

also is my GPU/CPU usage normal?? my GPU (3080 12GB) reach high 90% usage but my CPU (5900x) rarely crack 30% (usually 10-19% in match) im asking because my game feel choppy even with 120fps high and sometimes dips to 60-70fps in certain instances.

this is during the mission selection screen. i will show it in game in a minute.

its just all over the place with a high end pc

not only crazy low fps, the game feels choppy on high-mid-low fps

[mental canyon]

Is it common to have teams that just want to run through the level as quick as possible? It’s making one of my weekly’s pretty tough to complete

[echo cape]

does this game not run well on AMD cpu's? my lil brother have 12700 with 3060ti and he's having better performance than me o_0???

[little coyote]

Are your drivers up to date

[bleak maple]

Trash matchmaking , all my friends are offline so i cant even find a public lobby , all i get is bots , TRASHSHARK

[warm nebula]

#general-chat is that way <——-

We can’t help you with matchmaking at 5AM EST

[mental canyon]

What do the green down arrows under the mission picture mean? Some have two, some three and others none.

[rigid wasp]

Highest difficulty uve done if im not wrong

[hard goblet]

#gameplay-help message

[fading tree]

Worst possible class and weapons?

[marble ridge]

Regarding the "highest difficulty you've completed" mission marker, do we know if it applies per mission type, or per mission map? Just trying to use it to verify against my half-accurate notepad list of Heresy completions

And I presume it's only post-patch because I've completed Magistrati Oubliette on Damnation but it shows the Malic icon for me.

[rotund briar]

Not worst just.. most pidgeon holed: Psyker. Worst weapon: Ranged) Headtaker autogun. It's irredeemable. Melee) Debatable, but I'd probably go with chain axe.

[fading tree]

Thanks! Now im gonna force myself to suffer

[lone quail]

Hey what does the green arrow below the portrait mean?

[uneven bough]

all darktide chat rooms are now about the green arrows

[lone quail]

XD

i just scrolled up haha yea

[pseudo sail]

i wish they would have mentioned it somewhere...

[smoky scarab]

Got a question about fsr 2.0 and I'd like to hear some peoples opinions,which setting are you using and why?

[topaz lark]

performance because anything else cannot maintain 60fps in the fucking hub

this is the first game where I had to resort to downscaling

I run VT2 on ultra no problem

this remind me of this one space game that fucked your fps whenever there was a fire on screen
because they drew every fire about 2 thousand times, instead of one

[smoky scarab]

I've been switching between quality balance and performance and can barely see any visual difference between the 3,the fps between the 3 is about 10, from quality and performance is 20 fps difference and is really needed in some missions

on performance getting around 80-90 average in missions

mostly high presets

[topaz lark]

for me performance makes everything noticeably blurry and introduces ghosting
but I'll take it over 30 fps "cinematic experience"

[devout jungle]

Been having this really weird bug with only the auto-guns, where when i'm using a controller, the recoil is much worse and near impossible to control. Am i the only one with this issue?

[topaz lark]

well, mouse is always better for recoil control

been like that since the dawn of gaming

[devout jungle]

yeah but this shit is beyond reason

[topaz lark]

crossplay games usually just reduce recoil for consoles (or add aim assist)

[devout jungle]

like i fire the semi auto one twice, and it goes up by like 45*

can't use any of em, besides the little smg and the braced ones

[topaz lark]

can you record it?

[devout jungle]

i can try and see if i can get a cheap auto-gun in the shop, and i'll record it when i get home

[topaz lark]

also, considering console release is nowhere to be seen, I doubt they bothered much with gamepad support

[devout jungle]

yeah but here's why i don't use keyboard: No matter what i bind it to, the special attack/action does not work at all, unless i am using a controller

[topaz lark]

kek what

[devout jungle]

yeah

very weird

[topaz lark]

thats new to me

[devout jungle]

no idea why it happens

but it does

[topaz lark]

are you sure you bound it properly or something?

[devout jungle]

Yeah, i tried re-binding it 4 times in the same mission, and still, nothing

doesn't matter if it was on my goddamn left click, still didn't work

[topaz lark]

i recommend using meatgrinder for testing, not missions

I rebinded pretty much everything and it works perfectly

[devout jungle]

must be a weird gamepass problem

[topaz lark]

ah, gamepass

possibly, but i've never heard about this before

so I suspect the problem is solvable on your end

[devout jungle]

Maybe, but i'll try handling the auto-gun recoil bug first

that def shouldn't happen

[bleak maple]

does it count if teammate meele kill for weeklys?

[topaz lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

weeklies are bugged and sometimes do not count at all

so its impossible to definitively test

[warm nebula]

I’m gonna guess it doesn’t count

Teammate ranged kill almost certainly does not count for your weekly

[restive tulip]

yes your teammates can do it for you, but bugs can make it not record progress

[warm nebula]

Oh, then I’m a victim of said bug. Fix soon plz 🤞🏻

[unkempt stone]

When the quest working properly the answer is yes.

[brave breach]

why is this one blocked?

[warm nebula]

“🔒Required trust level for this mission: 12”

[gray geyser]

how many times can i replace a specific quest?

[brave breach]

yes, but why

[brave breach]

like what exactly is blocked? im just curious

the difficulty or the mission arent, so are maps blocked?

[warm nebula]

Maybe it’s difficulty + mission + map?

Some weird, non-integer calculation?

Now that I notice the other missions at the same difficulty aren’t blocked, yeah that’s weird my man

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm nebula]

A weekly at Sire Melk? Dunno… at least 3, depends on how much $ ya got

[brave breach]

exactly why i was asking

[warm nebula]

Worst case scenario, go play a quickplay, it’ll disappear when you get back to the Mourningstar ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brave breach]

i only do quickplay, it was just curiosity thing

[warm nebula]

🐛prolly. Or, you leveled to 12 after that mission was created? 🤔

The mission that you can play is newer

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[tame sequoia]

Has anyone noticed you get an Emeror's Gift when you play a mission with the green flag next to it, or has it just been my luck? At least, if you haven't hit you weekly cap. Next to it, not below it.

[warm nebula]

More… testing… required

[shadow osprey]

On the mission screen now some missions have green arrows and some also have a skull below the mission icon. Is this new and what does it mean?

[topaz lark]

we need a pin for that

#gameplay-help message

[shadow osprey]

Yeah just saw it mentioned in theorycraft so nvm

[topaz lark]

or a FAQ section or something...

[civic island]

Whats up with that?

[versed trail]

Is there a reach difference between melee weapons?

As in for example the combat knife having less reach than a Eviscerator chain sword

[warm nebula]

We did it boys, we won Darktide

[patent sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-we-saved-the-city-patrick-spongebob-spongebob-fire-gif-24201500

[merry gulch]

Okay so, haven't had much of an issue with this before

But ever since the update my game keeps constantly crashing due to memory issues, though I close everything else in my taskbar

Any help?

It was just fine before the update too so I'm not sure what the issue is

[patent sapphire]

i’ve noticed myself crashing a bunch when im inside the flame effect of either the zealot flamer or the flame staff

started happening after the patch

[long arch]

Inspect the weapons from the inventory screen. They all have different attack patterns for their combos. Some hit a single target, some hit multiple, some stagger multiple, some are especially strong if you hit a weak spot.

[versed trail]

Sometimes I wish i could pick what kind of swings i would do

My fav system is probably still from KF2, where the way you swing you melee depends on the current WASD key you hold

But the whole "First swing is crowd control, second is single target" is annoying to me

but i guess that could just be me

[long arch]

🤷 It's the system this game has. Combined with the dodging and the diverse hoards you face, the melee combat is still a hell of a step up from something like Skyrim.

[jaunty sierra]

can someone help me find motivation to play this game? weekly just reset but i dont want to grind

[patent sapphire]

if you don’t find it fun why are you trying to force yourself to play

[long arch]

seeking life purpose in video games is doing it wrong

[versed trail]

for me it's kind of the opposite
I want to play around with all the skills and not ask myself "Should I buy this gun i will replace in 5 level ups anyway?"

but i suppose that could also just be partially because i'm levelling all classes simultaneously

[warm nebula]

Maybe try to get some friends to play? I’m trying to get my friends to see past the trough of disappointment on Darktide…

Friends make games better

[dusk bough]

is the only way to get good modifiers on a weapon just shop RNG ?

like get a 400ish blue with great modifiers then upgrade/refine ?

[long arch]

Anybody have a link to an article or something that explains grimoire mechanics in detail?
They seem to cap max HP lower as time goes on for a seemingly small amount of extra XP at the end of the match ... yet scriptures give extra XP without the HP capping?
Is getting these objectives all random? And is the grimoire HP capping boosted by time or is it something else?

[versed trail]

Pretty sure the only difference is that you need more scriptures than Grimoires

so less meds and ammo to carry around

[patent sapphire]

you get corruption from picking them up and lose one hp to corruption every 10 seconds

you can heal back the corruption over time but anyone having one up permanently reduces hp and that can’t be healed

[warm nebula]

And there’s no UI element to tell you how much the initial HP cap is… right?

[patent sapphire]

you can see it when you first pick it up if you don’t already have corruption

[warm nebula]

True. I was just hoping for a little guide to where it would end up if I tried to heal it off a Medicae

[long arch]

lol, that's pretty aggressive and seems to incentivize not picking up a grimoire early on?

[patent sapphire]

most people don’t pick up grims at all in heresy and damnation

though you do run into some mad lads every now and then

the only thing it gives is extra experience and money and by the time you’re running damnation you don’t need experience and probably have 300-500k dockets

[long arch]

I was also wondering if the later difficulties become more "accessible" as you get better gear, or if it's really more of a skill-based thing? Malice is already hard as nails, and even some Uprising games have offered tremendous challenge (especially on dark levels when nobody brought a light).

[patent sapphire]

you can get to the point with gear and skill where malice will not be very threatening to you, maybe even heresy as well but damnation you’re always going to have to rely on teammates and can get screwed by things out of your control

personally i feel like im at the point where i can survive in heresy with my ogryn but i can’t carry the team

[dusk bough]

why cant your soldiers do one fucking pullup when theyre hanging on the side? so dumb

[weak snow]

If I'm based in APAC but I have friends in the US server, can I still play with them?

[tribal sandal]

https://youtu.be/j-vvCZNhxec

some of you might need this

[versed trail]

I mean my fav part of reviving etc is that the helping character just stands infront of the guy he's helping instead of pulling him up of giving him something like a painkiller

[quaint yew]

Hello guys, can you please help me to understand when I should push level 4 difficulty ?

3 is kinda easy right not (23lvl) but 4 is really hard sometimes, but depends from a party

[nova cipher]

When you are doing multiple missions at lvl 3 difficulty without being downed. When you're good at dodging/blocking melee hits and not getting hit.

If you can manage that, you can do 4

and even 5

... in time

[quaint yew]

Yeah, I got it. Sounds reasonable. Are there any requirements for item level?

Cuz dmg sometimes looks very low

[nova cipher]

Not requirements, more recommendations. Those Idk. sorry

[brave breach]

what is this mark on the bottom some missions have?

[warm nebula]

Shows the highest difficulty you have already completed that mission on

[brave breach]

thanks

[cursive hemlock]

Can someone explain to me Bio-Optic targeting? I don't get the whole priority target and coherency terms.

[calm pelican]

priority targets are the ones that get highlighted by default by the skill such as gunners, trappers, bombers, hounds, etc. Bio-optic shares that part of the ability with allies who are in coherency with you, giving them wallhacks too.

@cursive hemlock

[cursive hemlock]

Ohhh. How does coherency trigger?

[calm pelican]

It's just a range, you can see in the bottom left how many allies are in coherency with you at any time. I dunno what the exact range is though

[cursive hemlock]

Oh ok ok. Thank you! ❤️

Was so confused for a long time. 💀

[calm pelican]

np np

[woven sonnet]

Coherency in general is "being near your teammates". When you are close enough to be considered in coherency (as seen by the icon Quothe mentioned), your toughness regenerates, and you both give and receive a passive bonus to everyone based on your class. E.g. A zealot will reduce your toughness damage taken, ogryns give extra heavy melee damage, etc. Lots of other perks are based on being in coherency. @cursive hemlock

[supple shuttle]

....

cant reroll task and stuck with

fml

just stoppped working the replace, at 7500

[crude gazelle]

same for me on both toons, 7500 reroll doesnt work

[supple shuttle]

never gonna get this done xX

well guess ill just lose out on this week then.

[graceful halo]

I feel the same, very often everyone seems to just want to rush rush rush

[graceful halo]

you can just change it... err didnt see you are stuck with it

[sharp night]

Do the blessings from Curio's stack? for example 2 curios with 16% toughness on each?

[graceful halo]

yes

[silent compass]

@supple shuttle I believe all of the replacements work on a cycle. If you try to get grims, the next will be the "finish 6 secondary objectives". if i'm wrong let me know, cause i'm all out of rerolls this week

[long citrus]

The faster the mission is done, the faster $ and XP gets paid out.

Also there's a distinction between fast / rush. Most players who've been around since beta probably farmed plenty already, and able to memorize possible Grim / Script / Mat spawn, so they didn't need to waste time on checking.

Not to mention all missions + store is kept on a timed rotation. So faster you're done, the higher your chance on grabbing the mission / item you actually need / want.

There's almost 0 benefit / reason to take it slow, aside from either you want to sight see, or just couldn't handle the difficulty.

[grave cave]

me last week, sorry :(

[crude gazelle]

I think I did reroll a grim mission to a secondary, then secondary to scriptures, then stuck on 25 scripts

[verbal wyvern]

what does it mean by "enemy hit mass"?

[silent compass]

so it's a punishment system for trying to not do grimoires, or the harder ones pop up

maybe, kinda

[silent compass]

if it says "ignore enemy hit mass" it basically means you can cleave an infinite amount of mobs within your reach (besides shields I think? idk) for that duration

[verbal wyvern]

ah

[verbal wyvern]

including flak ?

[silent compass]

no idea honestly

[hard goblet]

Every enemy has a hit mass value based on what type of enemy they are/what type of material you hit. This value is subtracted from your weapon's cleave value until it reaches 0 and your weapon then no longer will apply damage to further enemies for that attack.

[verbal wyvern]

makes way more sense

Also, does burn like bleed stacks stop at 16

[hard goblet]

That I haven't tested as I don't have a zealot, sorry.

[verbal wyvern]

[silent compass]

Does this mean it can cleave through a bulwark's shield, or not?

[hard goblet]

I haven't tried this in the meat grinder yet, but it should be easy enough to test.

[lucid plover]

iirc even power sword couldnt cleaved through bulwark's shield pre-nerf

so assuming it's the same effect then probably not

[worldly bolt]

Can someone explain to me how Grimoire's corruption works?, like does it take a certain amount of wounds or a certain amount of health before it stops sapping

[honest furnace]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zhu85k/grimoire_corruption_explained_and_why_corruption/

This post goes into it

Apparently the corruption resist perk is bugged and the best way to fight grim corruption is healthmaxxing since it’s a flat value

[worldly bolt]

is there a page on how much health points a certain percent value will give from curios that have it?

like If I wanted to know how much 21% max health increase gave in terms of health points

cause rn I have a 60% max health increase on my Zealot

[grave cave]

where do i report typos?

[craggy kernel]

wheres the typo?

[worldly bolt]

looks like proper grammar to me

if anything, there's a possible redundancy in the sentence

[grave cave]

there is no queue, there are no heresy games

[modest glade]

Happened to me last week. Enjoy.

[supple shuttle]

yeah not even gonna try and do it, 😄

[graceful valve]

Csn Anyone help me with the kamikaze penance?

[silent compass]

When something has Armor Rending (+2/+3), how does it work? Does it mean that single shot penetrates and does more damage to carapace/flak, or do the enemies get a debuff so that subsequent attacks do more damage?

[patent sapphire]

brittle is the debuff

rending is where some fraction of your attack is calculated without armor and the rest is

i don’t think we have solid numbers on what +1/2/3 is yet

[silent compass]

gotcha

[patent sapphire]

it could be percent in which case lol

but i think it’s more than that

[red swallow]

Just had the most unfortunate set of circumstances occur at the end of a run that only had bots in the lobby with me ><

[edgy wedge]

man if you’d had players they could’ve jumped to res you

very sad

[red swallow]

lol no the bridge took too long to come down, but if there had been another player in the lobby, it wouldnt have auto ended as soon as I got casualitied

[edgy wedge]

no I mean to say that you can literally make the jump to the drop ship platform

[red swallow]

ahh

[patent sapphire]

what is going on here

[edgy wedge]

nothin’

[slow rivet]

Hot

[stark stream]

Omg.... Mutie throw me into some area which i cant get out then i try to leave mission and re-join my brother and friends game but no.... i cannot re-join! Why???

Why there have no option like relocate character if flow out of the map. If this mutie bug is not 100% fixed and sometime it throw us out of map or into some area which have no "out of space" so cannot jump and suicide.

Now i need to wait 30-40min until they finish the game.

I try to quit the game and re-join, but still cannot and then random came to my "Bot" place... So this is a bug. Basically when "leaved the game" i'm still suppose to go back to my place, but then if i restart this game then random people can able to take my spot.

[slow rivet]

I wanna make god ascending leaps with the convicts

[half lily]

.

[graceful valve]

Can anyone help me with a penance

[stark stream]

What class and what kind of penance you need help for?

[graceful valve]

@stark stream psyker

Need to blow up on 3 enemies

Elites or specials to be exact

[stark stream]

ahh then i think better if you find ogre with shield who just only block for you.

After reconnect can only spectate the sky and moving halo. xD

[graceful valve]

Yeah smh

[edgy wedge]

common glitch dw

[heady citrus]

Is this a good weapon to keep?

[ivory glen]

yes

anything above 370 is worth buying, furthemore if it's grey or green

[rigid beacon]

absolutely hating this sharpshooter Overwatch penance 😭

[signal wharf]

any tips on how to do the three elites with Perils of the Warp, since god is it such a dipshit penance.

[ivory glen]

you need 1 or 2 ogryn with shield and any other class

use the ogryn to block a a doorway and a zaelot to bait elites

when there is enough elites blocked by the shield, tenderise them a bit and explode yourself

that's how we did it for a friend

[hot frigate]

Bold of you to assume I have friends

[ivory glen]

You just need some kind people on this sub, just ask

best map to do this btw is consignement yard HL17-39 (the one with the train)

at the very start, the doorway before droping down

in fact, we also did heavyweight champion at the very same place, very good spot

[jaunty sierra]

IS IT JUST ME OR FEAT CHANGES ARE NOT REGISTERING??

[signal wharf]

that's a stupid fucking strategy but then again it's a stupid fucking penance

who the hell designed a penance that is literally just

low tier god's speech

[past yoke]

might be a dumb question but I assume the sword on the left is better right?

[dry laurel]

question about the bounties for killing stuff. do allies killing the enemies count towards your bounty or do you gotta kill them yourself?

[past yoke]

pretty sure allies killing them counts, I completed one when I hadn't killed anything but a teammate had

[dry laurel]

oh dear god

cause last night me and a buddy did all the weeklies in 10 hours before the reset. would've been nice to know I could've played too

[dry cloak]

Can Power Supply Interruption happen on levels inside of The Hourglass zone?

[hard goblet]

The squad's kills contribute to it.

[hard goblet]

Yes. It has no effect on the sun light.

[dry cloak]

cool!

[dry laurel]

That's good to know

[manic slate]

what specific weapons bleed

[fallen shell]

How do these deal the same damage, but have nearly 20% difference in damage?

[bold fjord]

maybe it's the 'first target' bonus?

[fallen shell]

As far as I can tell, the 77% damage doesn't do as much as the 54% damage per hit.
I used both of them, and I feel kinda cheated on the stats. Everything is confusing and who knows what the real stats are >.<''

[real meteor]

searched for "6 secondary" and found 66 unhappy players...

[hard goblet]

Inspect the weapon and mouse over First Target.

Every weapon will, generally speaking have 2 stat bars that determine their contribution to your damage dealt.

The "real stats" are provided to you via the Inspect menu in your inventory.

You can also press TAB while in that inspect menu and it will show you a breakdown of attack damage for each type of attack the weapon can perform.

First Target shows a window that says:

Light Attack Power vs First Target: [Some value between .75 and 1.25]
Heavy Attack Power vs First Target: [Some value between .75 and 1.25]

This acts as a multiplier of whatever your Damage bar's value is.

And is factored in to your weapon's light and heavy attack damage numbers displayed in the stat window up there.

[rigid wasp]

is this melk flamer worth?

[fervent ridge]

Absolutely not when you already have Flak perk on your current flamer that also has a higher rating lol. like 70% of the enemies in this game are flak armored and combat damage buffs are always superior to stamina or "+8% ranged critical hit" which is so lackluster

[rigid wasp]

All right cheers, just making sure

Been getting nothing worth on melk for a week

[fervent ridge]

If it helps to inform your future buys better you can open the DT wiki and look through enemy types and their properties real quick it's what I do at work when i'm bored, any weapons with bonus dmg to flak as a perk is almost always the superior buy because you get 20% to 25% (at max tier perk) dmg amp against them making maulers/dregs completely solved

I have 25% bonus dmg to flak on my 378 base rated antax mk 5 and I kill a mauler in 3 lights

[rigid wasp]

Theres already a wiki for DT?

[turbid dock]

Darkmass.gg

[rigid wasp]

Cheers

[fervent ridge]

Personally I use gameslantern but whatever works as long as it shows you all this info

lets me know where exactly to strike to get the bang out of every weapon

[kind zephyr]

If you flame fellas in the legs, they aren't flak armoured there.

roast 'em like chooks.

[rigid wasp]

So should I just upgrade my current flamer to gold?

Or is it enough on purple for now

[fervent ridge]

I would at least hold onto the melk coins till something decent comes along, idk your current plasteel diamante econ so upgrading is not a call I can make

[kind zephyr]

Buying stuff you'll actually use is good for sure, though I guess also consider buying great Blessings you will strip later.

[rigid wasp]

1.3 on dia and 4k something on plast

I only play vet and zealot

[fervent ridge]

We've got a millionaire among us lads

[quiet basin]

what is Volley Fire?

[fervent ridge]

in that case yea i'd upgrade it and keep refining till I get some insane 20-25% bonus dmg perk since you clearly have the money to both upgrade and then refine that final perk till it's perfect

The two current perks are very decent already ⛷️

[rigid wasp]

I have a trauma on using mats too early and regret it at the end when i played mmorpg stuff on earlier games i play

[rigid wasp]

All right thank you

[fervent ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1053284611469357126/image.png

Here is the refining mat cost table for your reference

[turbid dock]

Most enemies take only half ranged damage to the limbs so don't go TOO limb happy

[fervent ridge]

It is effectively free from the 15th roll onwards and you can refine infinitely till you get the exact perk you desire

Lets you do funny things on curios refining for example like having the same set of curios with +30% ally revive speed one day and +60% gunner resistance the next

[rigid wasp]

Guess now i need to find a better axe for my zealot

One of the perk that got locked is bad

Sprint efficiency

[fervent ridge]

(I did both, the gunner res was funny)

[hard goblet]

Veteran's ultimate ability, activated by pressing F.

[quiet basin]

whats the current level cap for weps?

500?

[hard goblet]

By level cap do you mean the base rating of a weapon if it were grey colored or do you mean the highest possible cumulative power rating it could have?

[agile elbow]

stat cap is 380 i think

[quiet basin]

sorry meant power rating

[hard goblet]

The base stat cap is 380, yes.

[tender pewter]

Lookin for help to gather 6 ogryn in hi intensity damnation or heresy. I’ll help u with whatever penances you need and will grind in the meantime we wait for a mission if none available

[bright trellis]

hello, anyone willing to help finish my Overwatch (no melee dmg) penance?

[bleak maple]

which perk should i re roll guys?

[paper holly]

So Maniacs are Mutants, Trapper, and the Flamers. Infested are Hound, Burster, and normal's with Nurgle. But not Nurgle Bosses or Mutant.

[turbid dock]

Maniac is also dreg rager

I'd keep infested unless you are sure that 20% maniac can hit some mutant/rager breakpoints

[keen spear]

does rating even matter for curios?

[devout jungle]

i don't even know what "wound" is

[keen veldt]

the number of segments/chunks of your health bar, does not affect max health

iirc on Sedition+Uprising you get +1 wound above standard and on Malice/T3 you have standard

on Heresy+Damnation you should be -1 wound from standard

so more wounds means you can be: downed but not out (on all fours) more before straight out dying and need to be rescued

[keen veldt]

hope that clears it up a bit

[grave cave]

are the charging mutant specialists the only "Mutant" type enemy?

[hard goblet]

They're the only one called mutants if that's what you're asking.

Their classified under the "Maniacs" category.

You can see that in the Meat Grinder when you damage them.

[warm night]

Yes they are the only Mutants. I assume this is regarding the Curios damage reduction.

[hard goblet]

Ah.

[grave cave]

It is, thanks 🙂

[edgy sable]

hey guys, what is the highest rating gear that can show up on the armoury exchange? or do we need to upgrade to get 500 rating gear

[warm night]

380 is the highest stat pool a weapon can have for its bars. The shop only cares about your player level for items that show up, your item level doesn't matter. You just window shop until you see something you like.

[rotund ravine]

Look at the blessing rating on the curios rather than the total, how ever i belive that wound curious dont scale and can only give 1 wound, at least i never saw a +2 wounds curio ever

[edgy sable]

i see thanks

[devout jungle]

holy shit i have deleted a lot of useful curios then

[summer bison]

Wtf is a "Dodge pattern"?

[hard goblet]

In what context was this used?

[summer bison]

Dodging around hordes convo. I'm assuming it's some advanced shit

[turbid dock]

There isn't really a dodge "pattern" but generally dodge in-between your swings to maximise your safety

[hard goblet]

^

Yeah there's just understanding what your weapon's dodge count is via the inspect menu.

And then not dodging higher than that without waiting.

[summer bison]

Eh. And there I was, entranced by a fancy word combination

[knotty halo]

Has anyone tried playing cross servers?

e.g. does anyone have a clue how the dedicated severs work

[turbid dock]

Yea I've played with people across the ocean, you just have a laggier experience

[knotty halo]

Is it playable?

[turbid dock]

east Asia to west coast was playable

Although you can't dodge mutants or hounds reliably so it depends on how you want to stretch playable

Basically the game doesn't care what you see on your screen but what it sees instead

So you could have dodged the mutant or the hound on your screen but you still get grabbed

[cold moon]

Relying on Wounds is a noob trap. If you go down too many times that adds pressure to your teammates to survive and you are not effectively learning how to dodge and block. A downed player is essentially a dead player in waiting. Instead, focus on +% toughness and/or +% max health depending on class.

[turbid dock]

Health% is what you want really

I lost count of the number of times I survived with the amount of health my curios provided

[warm nebula]

I have had better luck block-pushing the hound, versus dodging it. Still, your point about a high-lag situation is valid

[turbid dock]

Block pushing definitely increases your chance of avoiding it yea but you would still need to do it much earlier

[cold moon]

For Zealot % toughness is slightly more preferable given the feats of its class that replenishes toughness and its chastise the wicked ultimate ability. But I agree ogryn gets more out of % max health from having a larger health pool by default.

[rigid wasp]

guys i have a question , does every perk that has the 20% has the 25% too?

[turbid dock]

Damage to ____ yes

[rigid wasp]

thx

also is the rating of the weapons i drop from the emperor gift and from the shops affected from the weapons and curios rating i have equipped? or just char level?

[warm nebula]

Not sure. I assume it tracks char level, but I think it was reverse-engineered in vt2 to track every drop you ever got, even if you didn’t equip it

So maybe the same system is In Darktide

[hard goblet]

It's purely based on character level.

[warm nebula]

Oh ok 😅

[rigid wasp]

alright thx

[past yoke]

this is a bug right? is there any way to fix it

[plain epoch]

hey guys are private games peer to peer or on dedicated server?

[cold moon]

That's intended (so far). You only get 3 re-rolls per week for contracts for each class.

[past yoke]

aw poo

wouldn't have rerolled had I known that

[warm nebula]

I assume they’re on dedic servers. Fatshark has said they’re not happy with the performance hit of AI on self-hosted games

[hard goblet]

According to Fatshark, they only intend to offer you 4 rerolls a week. So technically, it's a bug. But not by much.

You can still easily get screwed over.

[cedar plume]

Quick Question: How can you determine what 'near' and 'far' is for weapons. Are they all the same or are they weapon-determinant?

[crimson fable]

Pretty sure they are weapon determinant, and you can see such info by overing over the stat bars with the cursor

[warm nebula]

I somehow have access to the beta helmet? I didn’t play in the beta…? Anyone else?

[untold phoenix]

Some people have gotten it anyway

No idea why

[warm nebula]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past flint]

Anyone know the total # of Special Condition Missions needed to unlock the frame for Adapt to the Environment Penance? Is it 50 as prescribed?

[halcyon delta]

im a bit confused about the new mission board settings. So im trying to see what I have right now, and I show for instance a assassination mission on heresy, when I know I did the other on damnation. Is it only showing what difficulty I completeled the map on, not the mission? or does anyone know exactly how it works?

[long citrus]

Yea, it shows you the highest difficulty you've completed for that map, and mission type. IMO, if you're relying on it to help track your class specific's 7 different mission type penance, it'd be kinda useless. But it will be helpful if you're going for the Damnation 7/7 penance.

[halcyon delta]

Thats what I thought lol. I need 1 more heresy map on my psyker and I cannot for the love of god figure out which it is. Going to have to just write them down like I did with my vet.

Thank you.

[long citrus]

Yea after the first 2 characters confused the shit out of me, I just said fuck it and went old school with pen/paper for the last 2.

[halcyon delta]

Yeah, I mean stealth implementing it was weird, and I was excited, now I just realized its useless for what im looking for at this point, and going to be even more useless going forward lol. Glad im not the only one who was like wtf

[long citrus]

It is a tiny bit playability for completionists. Wanting to max out / even out the mission difficulty's done and what not. But I concur, it's just very niche and overall fluff. It probably didn't require much effort to implement, but honestly just wish they'd focus everything they've got on actually pushing / polishing out an actual finished product first.

[hushed shell]

I think this has potential

[vocal steeple]

what do you guys think? Should I just stick with my Dueling Sword or get this chainsword, leaving me with 1365 Contract Credits? (Playing Psyker)

[rigid wasp]

Dueling sword as psyker

[cursive hemlock]

Are there Melee weapons you guys reccomend as a Veteran?

[quick remnant]

Power Sword

And Tactical Axe

[bold herald]

how does cleave work conceptually? it seems to be represented a couple different ways (e.g., power sword has cleave targets/cleave damage, but combat axe has first target)

[unborn pilot]

spent my first real time in a 4's. is the less wounds just part of the difficulty change? so i basically -have- to have wounds on curios?

[patent sapphire]

first target is a multiplier to the first thing you hit

basically when you swing with a cleaving attack each enemy you hit has a hit mass that is subtracted from the cleave stat of the attack, when that hits 0 the swing stops on that enemy

[bold herald]

oh does that make ignore mass a strong blessing

[patent sapphire]

yes

i believe you do less and less damage for each enemy you hit but im not sure exactly how that works

[bold herald]

and by stops, I assume you mean that subsequent enemies in the path of the swing... don't take damage, but might take stagger?

[patent sapphire]

it should get stuck on that enemy, instead of swinging through it collides

[bold herald]

oh interesting I don't think I've 'felt' that yet ingame

[patent sapphire]

what weapon are you using

[bold herald]

psword and combat axe

I'm guessing psword might not...care about mass as much when charged

[patent sapphire]

power sword won’t get stuck on anything while it’s powered up

combat axe i believe is mostly single target but im not familiar with all the archetypes

[bold herald]

I sort of figured but that makes my ignore mass blessing hilarious

combat axe kinda sweepy

[patent sapphire]

yeah the ignore mass blessing would be nice when you’re not powered

[bold herald]

it has the 'first target' stat so it's complicated?

(the combat axe)... so I assume it has the standard calculation that you explained

[patent sapphire]

what are the stats on it, does it have any others related to cleave?

[bold herald]

one sec, i'm not ingame

haha

[patent sapphire]

in that case i’m not sure, i’d have to dig around in the inspect screen

it may have a default cleave value that doesn’t change based on a stat

[bold herald]

so I guess the implication is that the remaining damage is distributed between the rest of the targets (until you run out?)

well actually it has a x1.1 modifier on first target so I have no idea anymore

[past flare]

any advice on if i should reroll a perk on this to try and get unyielding dmg or reload speed

[patent sapphire]

that’s a good bolter

[warm nebula]

I like that mobility is the dump stat

Nah, I think those perks are okay. But I’m still a lowbie

[patent sapphire]

this is the first weapon i’ve seen where the bars add up to more than the rating

[past flare]

its been a faithful friend to me

thanks for the input

[patent sapphire]

i would do nothing with it until we understand how the rest of crafting is going to work

[past flare]

yeah probably true, 8% ranged crit dmg is pretty nice when im critting for 600+

and the maxed out flak dmg bonus is very pragmatic

[patent sapphire]

i might consider rerolling crit damage into +25% against carapace because the bolter is kind of a crusher killer but honestly you don’t need to do anything

but since you have rending it doesn’t matter

[past flare]

hmm, i shall consider it, appreciated

[bold herald]

while we're on this topic, how does crit actually work? Do you have base crit chance, additional crit chance for headshot, etc? there's not a lot of perks/blessings that actually grant crit

[patent sapphire]

i don’t think you will regret just letting it be, you can always decide later once we have all the systems

[past flare]

i dont think theres crit on headshot

thats just a weakspot hit

[patent sapphire]

each class has a base crit chance then perks/feats/blessings change it

weak point hit is different than a crit

but you can get a weak point crit

[past flare]

i use the veteran ads crit chance feat so thats a big one

[paper holly]

Crit

@bold herald

[bold herald]

thank you!

[paper holly]

For more info watch the JSAT vid on damage

[sterile yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-dwayne-johnson-dwayne-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-23180639

[wanton frigate]

hello. is there a list of desired perk/blessing on a gun? I have mk12 infantry lasgun that I want to make it better, but not sure what to do with it

[fallen rock]

Can we get these to not show on other classes so we can complete them on other classes

[neat steppe]

i just got this curio, should i replace the corruption protection?

[warm nebula]

I would, but I’m a lowbie. And I think I read something about how “corruption resistance” does not affect that first hit of corruption that you take from picking up a grim…

Let me see if I can find that again

Pardon the lack of old.reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zhu85k/grimoire_corruption_explained_and_why_corruption/

[neat steppe]

ah yeah, i'm going to replace

oh YES

i got +15% thoughness regen speed

[wanton frigate]

is wound a good stat to have? 🤔

[warm nebula]

How many times do you expect to be downed?

[wanton frigate]

playing at diff3, I hope to be 1-2 max

[warm nebula]

Wounds give you one more rescue before you are dead.

That’s… kinda it

[wanton frigate]

anyway the reason is because i see this curio in sourmilk's shop

and we can't rebless yet, so...

[warm nebula]

I’d rather avoid needing to be rescued, but I’m not playing in the high diffs yet

Hmmm

[wanton frigate]

i'm at 30, so the 6% exp would be replaced (if I buy it)

[warm nebula]

Yeah, that don’t look half bad if we could re-bless

Sprint and block to keep you from going down

Maybe I would have wanted something other than sprint?

[thorn ice]

Does anyone know a fix for the memory leak/lag? I just restart the game hourly.

[brazen ingot]

When looking for perks on curios, some good choices are +Toughness, +Health, and +Tough Regen Speed

Block efficiency is nice

Experience is completely useless once you reach max level

[wanton frigate]

yeah, I would replace exp if I buy it

[brazen ingot]

Personally I wouldn't buy it from sire melk if you don't need it

[bold herald]

is toughness damage reduction still in the game?

[brazen ingot]

For example, this is what I use on my Sharpshooter

[warm nebula]

Shame about the last perk. What a tough Curio

[brazen ingot]

Tough regen and toughness are probably the best choices for perks

[wanton frigate]

🤔 maybe I should upgrade this one instead

[brazen ingot]

Yeah, but pox hound dmg reduction ain't something I'll complain about

[wanton frigate]

random curio I bought from armory

[warm nebula]

You got a point. I’m just hoping I can git gud enough to 1v1 them at some point

[brazen ingot]

Max stamina is probably the most useless, but the regen perk is perfect

[wanton frigate]

yeah, I'm betting on the upcoming rebless feature

[brazen ingot]

It's more like they are so glitchy that even the most experienced player can't guarantee they'll dodge when it lunges

Best to push them with good timing

While dodging at the same time

[wanton frigate]

for the hounds, i would switch to my axe and do melee while waiting for them, then push them away

[brazen ingot]

Those dogs run around like it's Tokyo drift

[warm nebula]

I’m with ya bud

[wanton frigate]

I can never dodge them

[warm nebula]

But if they get patched so they’re easier to push, then that perk will lose a lot of value

That was my point. Granted it’s not hugely important

[wanton frigate]

at the moment the flamer are what I hated the most

one milisecond in the flame and all 200 toughness gone

😡

[warm nebula]

Area-denier enemies are awful, yeah

[bold herald]

don't wounds also reduce the corruption damage from being downed?

[wanton frigate]

once I see 3 grenadier spawned at once and they set a whole stair on fire, nowhere to run

[warm nebula]

Any perks that can help reduce fire damage?

[bold herald]

because you only lose 25% of base HP instead of 33%?

[brazen ingot]

Wounds work as buffers, or lives

[warm nebula]

Maybe you have it right… I thought you only gained Corruption when you needed rescue…

[brazen ingot]

Every time you go down, your health bar is corrupted by a segment AKA a wound

[warm nebula]

Ah, I’m confusing “going down” with “needing rescue”

[bold herald]

right, but if you have 4 wounds and go down once, you lose 25% of base hp (compared to 3 wounds and going down once)

or do I not understand the wound logic properly?

[brazen ingot]

I've seen Orgyns with increased wound curios so going down is an inconvenience to their hp

[warm nebula]

I guess I should call “needing rescue” “being captured” to avoid confusion

You got the wound logic right

More wounds means less corruption when it fills 1 wound with corruption

[brazen ingot]

Yep

You can see the segments on your health bar in-game

[wanton frigate]

also the game lower the amount of wound we have when upping difficulty

[brazen ingot]

If you have only 1 white segment left, it means that next time you reach 0 hp you just die

[wanton frigate]

so I imagine +wound gears would have some importance in higher dif

[warm nebula]

Right, no capture, no rescue, you’re out

[brazen ingot]

I don't increase my wounds personally, I just use 3 +toughness curios

But that's my risky playstyle

[rigid wasp]

wait do the medi stations not reset your downs?

[bold herald]

I know heresy is -1 wound. Is damnation still -1?

[warm nebula]

There’s a risk/reward mechanic here. If you never go down, you never need the wounds to mitigate the punishment for going down taps_forehead.gif

[brazen ingot]

They do reset wounds

AKA clear the purple corruption stuff

[warm nebula]

(Unless your party is holding a grim)

There’s a lot of “it does this, unless that, unless the other thing” 🤣

[bold herald]

is +20 toughness curio ultra rare?

[brazen ingot]

A grimoire is interesting in that it adds an initial amount of purple Corruption stuff onto your hp bar, then corrupts it further over time, making the game alot harder

Even using medicae only resets your health bar back to the initial amount of corruption given by the grimoire

It's why alotta people don't like picking them up on higher difficulties

They can indirectly end a run

[brazen ingot]

I have yet to find +20% toughness on a curio so I assume it's just being at the mercy of RNG

[fluid flare]

Little friends, Ogryn needs help for Ogryn science

What does Rending do exactly

how does it increase dmg vs armored targets? What's the mechanism?

[crimson fable]

#theorycrafting message

For how the mechanism work, i think that not one really know

[brazen ingot]

Thanks for the info

[bold herald]

do curio rolls interact with item-level-budget? e.g. I have a +1 wound curio (base stat 53) from level...15 or so. Will it have worse rolls than a lv30 +1 wound curio?

[brazen ingot]

All I'm aware of for Rending is that weapons with bad armor penetration benefit more from Rending than once with good armor penetration already

[fluid flare]

Ok thank you. So the "original armor type" for ogryn enemies would be Unyielding?

[crimson fable]

Dunno sorry

[brazen ingot]

Yeah this was confusing me too, I can only assume that it calculates damage based on a non-armor modifier, like unarmored or unyielding

[crimson fable]

It is a reasonable guess though, so go with it until proven wrong i guess

[bold herald]

I believe "original armor type" depends on the specific hitbox that you are striking

[fluid flare]

Sounds like it to me too

I'm just trying to find the mathematically perfect damage perk for my godrolled +3 rending grenade gauntlet

(well not godrolled because the other perk is 8% weak spot dmg but whatever)

[crimson fable]

Well, this min max thing is not easy to do, since i heard that devs willingly made it so... Like not explaining what stuff does, and in general limitating such options... I heard it is because the don't want people to optimize the fun out of the game or something... This is just a rumor i heard mind you...

[warm night]

I will be trying to test rending at some point

[brazen ingot]

We run off of speculation and superstition, just like 40k

[fluid flare]

[crimson fable]

Like, they seems to not want people to crunch numbers and develop a meta, and they did so by obfuscating things...

Just to enjoy the game playing it

Again, it is a rumor i heard, nothing concrete

[brazen ingot]

A meta is inevitable

Even with vague info people figure out what works well and what don't

Bonk enough heads and burst enough brains and people will wisen up

[crimson fable]

Yeah, fighting against such thing is weird at best, a waste of time at worst... So dunno, seems a dumb take...

[warm night]

I wouldn't excuse how things are described as actually being a 4D chess move against optimizers. You end up hurting the mass player base more than the optimizers.

[crimson fable]

Indeed, especially since optimizers will always find what work, there is no stopping that, but going against them make all suffer

Like at the start the stat bars had no numbers

Who is so insane to think that such thing is fine in a game with stat bars?!

[warm night]

By forcing people to question what things do, they are forced to ask and research and that is the gateway to optimizing.

[brazen ingot]

Glad they took a step in the right direction with the stat display rework at least

[rigid wasp]

Question

[hard goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/90qola/a_list_of_everything_you_wish_fatshark_told_you/
Here's a nice example of FS's mindset from VT2.

[rigid wasp]

What does that thing at the bottom of the mission mean

[crimson fable]

Yeah, but came to wonder who and why thought it was fine to not have them in the first place

[hard goblet]

#gameplay-help message

[rigid wasp]

None of the other missions have those weird green arrows at the bottom

Oh ok

So how do I know what difficulty that equals too..

[crimson fable]

The chevrons

[warm night]

Being behind schedule

[rigid wasp]

Is it account wide

or character?

[brazen ingot]

Account wide

[hard goblet]

Account.

[rigid wasp]

And it only tracks missions starting on the current patch

nothing before it?

[hard goblet]

Correct.

[rigid wasp]

Cause I did everything on heresy a few weeks back

ah ok

[warm night]

Not all, but many bad design choices are likely because development is behind.

[hard goblet]

Minimum viable product.

[crimson fable]

Dunno, i think that there is a disconnect between devs and players, and devs have no idea what players actually want or like, and refuse to listen to players

[hard goblet]

I laughed when they claimed they'd roll out crafting "through December".

[brazen ingot]

A bit of research and you can piece together what happened with Fatshark the last couple years

[crimson fable]

Like, how the hell you say that you learned so much from VT and then make all these same errors that VT had fixed thanks to players

[warm night]

When I saw the cash shop timer I knew they only had one set per class at that moment anyway lol

[brazen ingot]

Apparently they used an early vermintide build to work on darktide

[patent sapphire]

they give so much information on stats and weapons idk how you can say that they are obfuscating things to stop optimization

[hard goblet]

Like, what a thing to claim when we know they'll be on break for the last 1.5 to 2 weeks of the month.

[crimson fable]

Didn't they made it up from scratch? I remember reading that they had to make all from the fround

[warm night]

I don't want to sound like I am only negative towards the game, because I am not. But I do believe in game design integrity.

[patent sapphire]

there’s not deterministic crafting so you can’t make the exact perfect thing in a deterministic way but you can know exactly what’s good or not

[hard goblet]

It's that they only did so after incredible pushback from the playerbase and a statement that they didn't expect to need it.

[bold herald]

well there's some info but the full game logic isn't that transparent (e.g. previous discussion on how tf cleave works)

[patent sapphire]

it was in on launch

from day 1 lol

[brazen ingot]

Too lazy to confirm but either way they clearly didn't have the dev times and resources to include the QoL improvements that VT2 had

[patent sapphire]

and it’s way more information than you should ever expect on an in game screen like this

[hard goblet]

I'm referring to the CBT and a fundamental game design approach.

[crimson fable]

Yeah, the design is the main problem imo

[patent sapphire]

cbt is where you’re supposed to get feedback

[crimson fable]

All other stuff seems solid... Art and music definitely is

[brazen ingot]

The core gameplay, art and music are sublime

The systems around them are rough

[crimson fable]

Also i'm starting to doubt the execution of some combat stuff... Like, seems to be overly complicated how they do stuff, like rending

[hard goblet]

My problem is for a game like this, with experience from Vt1 and 2, I would expect them to understand the value of such a detailed stat system without needing to be told.

But at least from Hedge's response

[crimson fable]

Honestly stat bars should go away, it is just there to create a useless and awful artificial diversity instead of actual design diversity

[patent sapphire]

personally i think it’s entirely understandable that they wouldn’t want to make the stats screen for their action game look like microsoft excel with stats

[warm night]

Darktide has a beautifully complex combat system with a good design balance. I don't mean everything is balanced, but how the enemy types are configured is very balanced.

[hard goblet]

It was said they were surprised so many people wanted more than just stat bars.

[patent sapphire]

ok but they compromised their vision to do something the community wanted

[brazen ingot]

Hounds should go away tho (plz)

[crimson fable]

Which would explain why they didn't put them in from the start... Again, disconnection between playerbase and devs...

[hard goblet]

There's obviously more space between that extreme and what the game's initial stat bars were.

[patent sapphire]

that’s evidence enough there’s no weird conspiracy against “optimizers”

[crimson fable]

That is evidence that they need to be told what to do to make a game that people can enjoy to me

[hard goblet]

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, but I absolutely would call it a disconnect.

[warm night]

Hounds and Mutants are designed well imo. They take bonus melee damage so if they do get in close they are more forgiving.

[brazen ingot]

Mutants are fine, but Hounds act like they are on ice

[crimson fable]

I think this is a bad design on the other hand, since they can lock you up when close

[hard goblet]

Maniacs as a category are handled ok in my opinion. They take full damage from ranged at all ranges. Except on rapid fire weapons like the Accatran.

[warm night]

Yes the animations need work, but mathematically they are fine.

[brazen ingot]

There is no special I fear more than the hound in a horde

Low profile, fast movement, and a deadly lunge

[warm night]

When they are most deadly, they are the most weak. That is pretty well designed I feel.

[winged moth]

The worst combo I've experienced is a mutant who just throws you out, next to a trapper who webs you and as you fall you are shot by a sniper

[brazen ingot]

Never seen that but that's just bad luck

A more common deadly combo is a hound or trapper combined with a bomber

[winged moth]

or a tox flamer

[hard goblet]

Trapper + flamer and/or bomber is pretty common to see.

[brazen ingot]

Can also replace the flamer/bomber with a gunner that is focused on you

[hard goblet]

Also been airshot by a sniper while being thrown by a mutant.

[brazen ingot]

Since a gunner focuses on only 1 person for their entire burst

[winged moth]

Also, recently did the heresy run with extra hounds. first attack was two trappers, two hounds and a mutant

[warm night]

The way enemies are armored/typed is layered in a way that you can't focus on one type of bonus damage. It is spread out very well so that fine tuning your weapons is a deliberate goal.

[brazen ingot]

Nothing brings me more joy than being able to catch a hound with melee

[hard goblet]

Yeah. This I don't mind. It adds some complexity to the damage modeling.

[versed trail]

Ok how do ammo bags work? As in the small and big ammo pickups. Is it percentage based? Is it weapon type based? Damage?

[hard goblet]

Though I do wonder sometimes what the purpose of allowing weapon tuning is if their intent was to avoid broadly effective damage bonuses.

[hard goblet]

Percentage based I believe.

[warm night]

They alternate flak and unarmored between locations of dreg and scabs and tune HP to compensate as well. Even consider the fact that limbs have reduced ranged damage, so that knocking down a Mauler actually protects it's midsection. Its all very well designed.

[versed trail]

I thought that too after i noticed that my Lasgun and Bolter don't get full mags... until i pulled out my Headhunter which gets more than a single mag

[hard goblet]

From the big ammo bag?

[versed trail]

smol ammo

but I'm curious about both

[brazen ingot]

Meanwhile I pull out my agripinnaa braced autogun and get like 70 ammo with a small ammo box

[hard goblet]

My XII gets multiple mags from the large bag.

And about 3 mags from the small box.

[bold herald]

what were they initially?

[versed trail]

my SMG gets 1.5 mags from a small box

[hard goblet]

I was short of max ammo on my XII by over 100 on the ammo count display.

[versed trail]

My Bolter and Las don't even get a single mag from a small box

[hard goblet]

What lasgun?

[versed trail]

"Ammo Tin" as they're called ingame

Heavy one (Brown)

not the carbine

Kantrael

[hard goblet]

The Lucius Helbore?

[versed trail]

MG XII Infantry

[worldly bolt]

What does "Brittleness" mean?

[hard goblet]

Ok so the same rifle as mine.

[crimson fable]

Next question is gonna be "ok, how reding work?"

[hard goblet]

So your MG XII doesn't even get 30 ammo from an ammo tin?

[brazen ingot]

Answer: we know as much as that picture shows

[versed trail]

not even 28, actually

[hard goblet]

Were you within that value to your max ammo capacity?

[versed trail]

I emptied an entire mag, picked up an ammo tin and i didn't go back up to max ammo

[hard goblet]

Because I have picked up far more ammo than that using the same lasgun and ammo tin.

[bold herald]

well a mag for XII is in the 90s range, no?

[versed trail]

yeah but we're dividing by 3 since real ammo

[bold herald]

is there actually a way to make the game show that

[warm night]

Look at total ammo. Mags don't have a uniform ratio of max ammo

[versed trail]

i fire 83 ammo. 463 total (excluding mag) I then go down from that to 380 and a single tin gets me back up to 450

also who's skull do i need to cave in so i can put that sight on all my guns?

[crimson fable]

Ahahahahah, nice joke, there is no gun customization...

You get the weapons and you cannot change anything about them

[fierce minnow]

How dare you want to change the omnissaia’s work

[versed trail]

Is there a list somewhere with enemy types?

I found a list but it mentions nothing about Maniacs etc

[serene latch]

wait till the game gets released

[crimson fable]

Already doing so 😎

[warm night]

Post Launch beta

[hard goblet]

I believe darkmass has a glossary with such?

Maniacs include dreg ragers, mutants, flamers, and trappers(?).

The meat grinder tells you when you damage them.

[versed trail]

But something that also has been on my mind for quite a bit: Is there a gimmick to projectile guns? (Autoguns etc)

They seem to deal similar damage to Carapace and Flak compared to Lasguns but the Blowthrough doesn't seem to be better either

Lasguns may lose a lot more damage against Flak but their basically double damage at times seems to negate that

[warm night]

#theorycrafting message My calculator has enemies sorted

[royal canyon]

am I softlocked?

can't get this map this week, right?

(I'm out of rerolls)

[hard goblet]

I'm not sure if the rotations are weekly.

I want to say they rotate more often than that.

[royal canyon]

I hope

[hard goblet]

HL 17 36 has a repair and a strike mission in it.

I've never gone that long without seeing it.

[cosmic widget]

Anybody wanna get together and grind penances on malice difficulty? I need help with the throw a stun grenade at a sniper thats 40m or more away one

[solid steeple]

Yeah I can get with you. was just about to send a message asking for help with the Going out With a Bang penance

would anyone else be willing to assist?

[cosmic widget]

I can ask my friend if he can join

Btw whats the difference between the microsoft strike team and strike team vcs?

nvm I think he might be busy.

So yeah just need 2 peoples

[cold dove]

I'm down to run it, I can try for vets melee penance