gameplay-help

[outer bloom]

its definitely not the best but it works

the blessings are GARBAGE but if they put the swap out in I'll probably be keeping this thing for a while

[mystic rapids]

Good synergies with perks and blessings though

the weak spot one is great

[outer bloom]

punishing is decent

[echo kiln]

Malice(3)

[mystic rapids]

that combined with the +8% ranged damage makes your weakspot shots nasty

[hard bluff]

thanks ❤️

[mystic rapids]

shame about the reload perk

[hushed wave]

I need to git gud for Malice.

[brisk olive]

I'm very tempted by the recons, haven't tried them but they look cool. But the XII fits the guardsman vision for me better. Plus I am afraid I'd be too annoyed by the lack of stagger

[outer bloom]

the sheer volume of fire is aces '

[hushed wave]

I have a friend who swears by recons, but for me, the less bullets needed to delete something, the better.

[mystic rapids]

Shouldn't take you long, are you upto level 30 with characters?

[outer bloom]

also compared to the best mk 12 ive got my dp per mag is double

damager per mag

[hushed wave]

Yea, I got two 30s and a 20.

[mystic rapids]

Fair enough, you're probably good enough then, what do you struggle with?

[hushed wave]

I mostly just struggle with carrying 3 guys.

[mystic rapids]

ahahaha

that could be a big influence

[hushed wave]

I'm not too bad at Malice, but not good enough to compensate for weaker teammates.

[mystic rapids]

Yeah, if you're solo queuing then it's a lottery, if it's your buddies then tell them to practice more

[hushed wave]

My only buddy has bailed to go play FF Crisis Bore, so I'm enjoying good old matchmaking RNG

[mystic rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-gif-24090093

[brisk olive]

I felt so-so at Malice. then played a bunch of rounds of Heresy and was obliterated, but then coming back to Malice felt like it was put on easy mode. That's my recommendation of how to get better at Malice!

[rigid wasp]

had a lvl 30 psyker with 5 or 6 wounds, im not kidding when i say he got down more than 10 times, every time we look away hes down somewhere

[bold sinew]

@mystic rapids thanks for the video !

[hushed wave]

I'm at that point where Uprising is a little boring, but Malice is stressful. Heh heh.

[mystic rapids]

You're more than welcome dude, I hope it helped 🙂

[hushed wave]

I feel like Ogryns are good luck charms. Having one on the team improves chance of success by 10%

[bold sinew]

Editing is pretty cool btw @mystic rapids

[mystic rapids]

Yeah that's where I got to, Uprising slowly becomes less of a challenge and this game is a lot more fun when you're close to dying so it's time to step it up a notch

Thanks @bold sinew dude, I've had a lot of practice

[heady citrus]

Shame ogryns are so underplayed. They could use a unique weapon that draws people in (ie like boltgun to Sharpshooter etc)

[hushed wave]

I tried the boltgun and hated it... Shame really. I was excited to get one.

[waxen nest]

was there meant to be a update today or am i mad ?

[little coyote]

probably in three hours, that has been the time for patches usually

18:00 UTC

[hushed wave]

Nothing coming today as far as I'm aware.

[little coyote]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3634998253133702266

[hushed wave]

Community update doesn't mean a game patch though.

[onyx schooner]

anyone know what rending does? got the blessing on combat axe

[little coyote]

decreases the effectiveness of enemy armour

[hushed wave]

Expect to hear news today, but a game update is unlikely.

[onyx schooner]

then does rending and brittleness do the same thing?

[mystic rapids]

If it says like +20% rending on critical hit then it is basically an extra 20% armor penetration on that specific hit

[patent sapphire]

rending buffs you, brittleness debuffs the enemy

[onyx schooner]

ah i see

+10-25% Rending for 5 seconds on Enemy One-Shot. Stacks 3-5 times. it says this on the blessing

[patent sapphire]

if you hit an enemy with a rending attack your next attack will have better armor penetration but no impact for your team

[mystic rapids]

That means when you kill an enemy with one hit then you will have +10 to 25% armor pentration on your next hit. If you kill the next one with one hit then it retriggers to a maximum of 3 to 5 times so anywhere between +30% to +75% penetration on your next hit.

wait

my math is off

could be upto +125% I think?

5 x 25

if you're really lucky with the stats

I broke my own brain

lol

[hard bluff]

If you fail a mission do you still get all the materials that you collected throughout?

[patent sapphire]

is this in game or from a website?

[mystic rapids]

I tested it with one of my axes

[onyx schooner]

in a site, but i got one with 15%

[patent sapphire]

yeah the actual blessing will not have a range it will have a specific number depending on the tier

[mystic rapids]

I should be working anyway, laters. o7

[topaz lark]

no

[mystic rapids]

You get some for sure

It isn't much if anything, we lost about halfway through a Heresy run last night and got 20 plasteel and 10 diamantine

[umbral glade]

huh

[opaque drift]

can anyone help me with the fleshwound-penance? 😄

[echo kiln]

Community Update 6 (news) is guaranteed Dec 14, but we don't have an exact minute and hour. This may include information about the new patch and/or information about future patches and the next directions development will take. Aqshy was confirmed to be working on this today.

Patch (actual software changes) is a nonspecific time this week that may or may not be Dec 14. This introduces rerolling a perk on weapons and may or may not mess with the premium store.

[topaz lark]

well patch says you shouldnt

[echo kiln]

For advice this is the channel
For players, #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[topaz lark]

Failing a mission should no longer grant you the crafting materials you found in that run. Soz.

[umbral glade]

that is not the case
they didn't manage to make it work

[topaz lark]

from 1.0.10 patchnotes

kek

[mystic rapids]

Just saying what I got last night, definitely got 20 plasteel and 10 Diamantine on a failed Heresy run

[umbral glade]

you still get some

[mystic rapids]

I remember it well because the disappointment was tangible

[echo kiln]

I wonder if it's maybe half, but I'd have to actually pay attention to the end screen.

[umbral glade]

small stash is 10 and large is 25

yall can just , do the math your self at somepoint

[mystic rapids]

Much less than half I reckon, you get around 100 Diamantine for a completed run on heresy if you find it all.

^ all dependent on how much is found

[umbral glade]

175+75 on malice

200+ of each on dam

the swing is a bit larger after the buff

but this is about the amount to expect

(if your teammate is blind then ...yknow

[mystic rapids]

^

[umbral glade]

id say run malice to get mats

[mystic rapids]

For some reason I've had people open a box with mats in and just leave them....

[umbral glade]

cuz you spend your plastell and diamante at about 3:1 anyway

[mystic rapids]

like they're a bomb or something

[umbral glade]

getting them at 3:1 is enough already

and malice will allow you to actually search the map

instead of having to play defensive sometimes

[umbral glade]

sometimes its just they think they grabed it

honest mistake tbh

[short glen]

Do we know how the daemon host choose its target ? it seems to focus the one who start it at first, but what about the second target ?

[hushed wave]

Seems random, but there may be some formula to it.

[mystic rapids]

Whoever forgot to change their underwear before they went to work.

Works on scent

[untold phoenix]

Whoever didn't wash their hands after using the loo

Even the daemonhost washes it's hands

It is a respectable member of Chaos society

[hushed wave]

I think I only woke a Demonhost once. It literally popped up from under me and I clicked without knowing what it was

[echo kiln]

Reasonable, tbh

[untold phoenix]

The gamer reaction

“Oh look a thing, it needs death”

[hushed wave]

Normally I can hear them from miles away but this one was sneaky.

[nova cipher]

I've secondary attacked it with the surge staff but it didn't activate it

while it was still rising

[ornate compass]

Dogs, pox walkers, pox bursters, bosses like the beast and ogryn

[short glen]

Damn i will be sure to be careful next time '-'

[plain epoch]

guys what's the max health and toughness you can get on a curio blessing?

[peak niche]

Hey, what armour type do monstrosities have? Trying to figure out optimal combos against them

[peak niche]

I believe the highest for toughness is 17%

[patent sapphire]

unyielding usually

[echo kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2pn4t/enemy_breed_armour_types_and_locational_damage/

[peak niche]

Ah ty!

[rich smelt]

Patch news?

[dull carbon]

Wow infested damage is totally worthless!

[echo kiln]

The exact stuff that was written in the community update.
Community Update 6 (news) is guaranteed Dec 14, but we don't have an exact minute and hour. This may include information about the new patch and/or information about future patches and the next directions development will take. Aqshy was confirmed to be working on this today.

Patch (actual software changes) is a nonspecific time this week that may or may not be Dec 14. This introduces rerolling a perk on weapons and may or may not mess with the premium store.

[echo kiln]

Depends on if you're trying to hit that 300hp damnation breakpoint

[gusty silo]

Any info about patch?

[rich smelt]

Thanks a lot mate, you are the best

[echo kiln]

Literally scroll up, my dude

[dull carbon]

For what? According to that guide it's poxwalkers and dogs, who cares about hitting breakpoints for those?

[gusty silo]

@echo kiln Cant see 😦

[hushed wave]

Basically news about the next patch is expected today.

[echo kiln]

Hitting poxwalker breakpoints consistently matters a lot on certain weapons for efficient horde clear combos

[echo kiln]

Community Update 6 (news) is guaranteed Dec 14, but we don't have an exact minute and hour. This may include information about the new patch and/or information about future patches and the next directions development will take. Aqshy was confirmed to be working on this today.

Patch (actual software changes) is a nonspecific time this week that may or may not be Dec 14. This introduces rerolling a perk on weapons and may or may not mess with the premium store.

[gusty silo]

Thx @echo kiln

[dull carbon]

I feel like you'd get more mileage out of unarmored

[echo kiln]

It depends on the weapon and the swing and the use case. The community scientists will get breakpoint modeling up and running at some point.

[dull carbon]

OGRYN SCIENCE

https://tenor.com/view/muahaha-evil-laugh-evil-laugh-futurama-gif-4133163

[hushed wave]

I'm happier being blind.

Never been much of a powergamer

[night night]

So I received a Exalted shotgun (the Emperor Protects) that has great stats imo, but has the Man-Stopper trait, is there even cleave on ANY ranged weapon?

[echo kiln]

That's a valid way to play. Not everyone needs to be one of us compulsive optimizers

[night night]

Or was the trait, to no falt of the Emperor, a bug?

[echo kiln]

There's definitely penetration on ranged weapons, the lasguns do it, but I don't know if it uses cleave math and stat or not.

[night night]

=/

Hmm, well, no better way to find out than through purging the heretics with it I guess.

[hushed wave]

Need to get my Vettie to 30. Then I'll have all 3 humans at max

[dull carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-dolby-she-blinded-me-with-science-good-heavens-miss-sakamoto-youre-beautiful-gif-23147053

[rigid wasp]

I start the launcher it goes then says fail to start

I’ve hpdated drivers restarted and stuff idk

[viral vale]

there is a sync between what gear u have and what you see in the shop ? ?

[hushed wave]

I heard someone say the shop is based on your highest level gear...

Not sure how true that is.

[lament wolf]

No it's almost entirely gated by level

I don't recommend buying anything below 350 base rating unless the stat distribution is beautiful, or it has a blessing you want to take and put on another weapon.

[supple shuttle]

Does my gear equipped matter for what comes in the shop

[crimson fable]

Nope

[supple shuttle]

thanks

[edgy wedge]

Highest blessing toughness is 20%, highest perk toughness is another 4%.

[peak niche]

Woah really? I've not seen it go near that high, wow

[edgy wedge]

Whoever was the last to damage it before it finished killing the first player is the target

[peak niche]

I think also closest person (even through walls) is also a factor, especially if you all just let the Daemon munch on the target haha

[edgy wedge]

Yep, you have to get stupidly lucky with rolls
or become insane and check the shop with every profile every time it refreshes

[short glen]

oh thanks !

[edgy wedge]

my personal favorite is when you turn your back on a psyker as ogryn and then hear their head explode

[edgy wedge]

you know malice is 3, right?

[hushed wave]

Yah, one up from Uprising (2)

[edgy wedge]

oh okay
if you wanna play malice, i’m ridiculously well practiced and know how to play on any difficulty so like
just dm me if you wanna

[hushed wave]

Orlrighty!

[lament wolf]

Here I'll give you the only tip you need. Attack attack push, attack attack dodge, rinse repeat. Tag and kills specials, tag into a horde so you don't get surprised by elites. Gg

[hushed wave]

Yea I do that already

I'm not too bad at the difficulty, but there's some rng to getting good teammates

Nothing worse than losing 2 wounds to a dog/trapper that nobody helps you with.

[nova cipher]

literally just had a dog take 3 whole wounds down from fresh :/

while team mates ran around doing other ... things

team mates lol yea right

[mystic rapids]

Dodge the trapper, pushback the hound.

Of course it's situational but most of the time you'll pull it off

[edgy wedge]

Crouch slide dodge to the left or right whilst push blocking as fast as you can when a dog jumps at you

[sonic breach]

whats the number beside everyone's name in voice call?

[echo kiln]

Steam friend code

[sonic breach]

oh

thanks

[hushed wave]

Can't dodge what you don't know is there

[urban flume]

Does anyone have a solution for error 4008?

[edgy wedge]

dogs are extremely loud

[vernal fossil]

whats the hightest total modifier rating you can get? 380 right?

[mystic rapids]

Modifier rating?

[vernal fossil]

yknow the weapon stat %

[echo kiln]

Yes

[hushed wave]

I find trappers easy to dodge, but they can be sneaky, while dogs I can rarely dodge but they're not sneaky at all

[vernal fossil]

im guessing looking for endgame weapons with the highest modifiers possible are the ones you want to upgrade?

[echo kiln]

Of course

[mystic rapids]

The pushback is a lot more effective against dogs, dodging works but it's situational. The pushback will stun the dog

[mystic rapids]

Don't cash in your old one's though, they might be useful when crafting is fully implemented

[echo kiln]

Hold on to any good blessings. Otherwise, sell away

[mystic rapids]

Some blessings might become more useful in the future, I can't see how but until we have all features in the game you never know.

Eitherway, blessings are more valable than the 3k for selling stuff

[spring needle]

Worth getting this for Sharpshooter?

[twilit socket]

Does grimoire resistance on curios effect the initial corruption or does it also help with the ticks of corruption after

[mystic rapids]

I don't play Veteran but it looks quite nice, the toughness buffs are decent

[vernal fossil]

yeah it depends if we're going to be able to reroll modifiers

[mystic rapids]

Yeah, I've got some weapons with some lovely blessings but terrible perks

[vernal fossil]

I guessing not, since there are 3 locked menus, which im guessing are gonna be:

1. scrap weapon for crafting bux
2. reroll perk
3. reroll blessing

err wait

2. is "add blessing"? i dunno then.

then theres the locked "combine blessing" under "entreat hadron", so maybe modifiers and perks will be permanent

or 1. will be reroll perk

[echo kiln]

Their crafting post outlined that we will be able to transfer blessings and combine blessings of the same type to make stronger blessings

We already know that 1 button, Refine, is rerolling a perk. Read Community Update 5

[vernal fossil]

oh cool ill check it out

[lone flower]

In today’s update, we want to address a few questions from the community, as well as talk about what’s to come in our next community update on Wednesday, December 14.
So what was released today? Some infos?

[patent sapphire]

nothing yet

[echo kiln]

Community Update 6 is to come out today. The Community Updates, the things you are quoting text from, are the news communication with the community. Per a forum post, Aqshy has it ready to go but has not received approval to post.

The game update/patch, the actual software changes, was never committed to be today. Community Update 5 simply said "next week." Per a forum post, they were trying for today but ran into some issues and will probably have it out tomorrow.

[dull carbon]

Well when they say "Community Update Wednesday" I can see how it could be misconstrued as "Update Wednesday"

[umbral glade]

im gonna see if i can refund at 200hrs if they do this like 5 more times

[valid fog]

I swear if they piss me off 13 or 14 more times I’m gonna cut back on playing to 20 hours a week only

[tranquil grove]

Game is literally unplayable, I'm having fun but not for all of eternity.

I have to take breaks and shit

[echo kiln]

They need to add "always capitalize Community Update" to their internal style guide

[blissful flower]

Submit yourself to Servitor conversion so you can play the game forever

[valid fog]

Finally the long awaited medstation class

I can finally fulfill my dream role: sitting in a corner and silently judging the strike team as they fail to complete the run

[lone flower]

The communication is very bad for real.
The release was at a very wrong time, after the pre-order-beta they should have pulled the ripcord and resheduled release. So many crash problems are so bad for the reputation of the game.
Have many friends which stopped playing....

Additional, when writing "Update" nearly every gamer expect a game update, not an information post.
So the News on Steam from 8th of dec was an announcment for the news which should have come today which would contain announcements for a patch....thats really hard to understand ....

[lone flower]

They should change their vocabular.
Update is a term in the gaming branch to update the game itself, not the information about the game.

[lone flower]

Be glad, some of us have forced breaks because of crashes and disconnects at least once per mission

[echo kiln]

It's not ideal, certainly, but they've been totally consistent about the naming convention.

[lone flower]

Thats uninteresting, as game developer you have a bigger clientele and just a few are consistently reading every news but important news should be understandable by everyone

[solar cloud]

Hey Ive been having studddering issues and occational minor rubberbanding, I just wanted to see if this is a dead with my PC or if its due to something with the game

[lone flower]

95% sure its the game/server, other 5% your game or internet connection

[tranquil grove]

Also the post literally said "Community Update" in a "Community Update" so that's just an issue with reading comprehension.

[echo kiln]

Sometimes, people immersed in terminology write things and forget that it's not perfectly obvious to everyone else. Mistakes happen. The fact that people are then keyword skimming instead of reading and noticing the adjective is on the gamers.

[solar cloud]

Was there a update or something that I am not tracking or is something else going on?

[lone flower]

Sorry, but thats not a random user, thats written by people which get paid for that. Its the whole key of the position to communicate on the right way with the community

[solar cloud]

Sorry I just wanna knock down the potential problems one by one

[lone flower]

There was an "Update News" on 8th dec, which announced an "Community Update" for today which will announce changings for an upcomming patch this week

[echo kiln]

See keyword "mistake" here:
#gameplay-help message

[tranquil grove]

Its also not even really a mistake

[solar cloud]

Ok thanks

[queen moth]

can u still chesse make every shot count by alt f4ing and rejoing at the end?

[tranquil grove]

The game update announcement is right next to the community update announcement

[umbral glade]

the real issue is why dont we have them in the 1st place tho

[echo kiln]

Community Update 6 is to come out today. The Community Updates are the news communication with the community. Per a forum post, Aqshy has it ready to go but has not received approval to post.

The game update/patch, the actual software changes, was never committed to be today. Community Update 5 simply said "next week." Per a forum post, they were trying for today but ran into some issues and will probably have it out tomorrow.

[umbral glade]

like

im not gonna run the list again

but there are weapons missing, and features still in the making

like

actual basic features

[echo kiln]

I think you replied to the wrong person?

[lone flower]

The crashes, lags, studdering and disconnects are much more important than gameplay issues imo

[tranquil grove]

I dont think you know what the word basic means

[umbral glade]

no?

[umbral glade]

where is my perk reroll

[zinc mist]

anyone got time to help me with the "on overwatch" penance?

[umbral glade]

where is blessing related crafting

[tranquil grove]

Have you been unable to play the game without perk reroll?

[umbral glade]

they are promised

[lone flower]

wrong channel

[tranquil grove]

Is it a basic feature fundamental to the experience?

[umbral glade]

yes

[tranquil grove]

Its okay to be wrong sometimes

[umbral glade]

very basic even

[blissful flower]

Try recruiting in the LFG channels, this is for asking questions

[umbral glade]

like i cant belive how thats a "comming soon" level of basic

[tranquil grove]

If I can do Damnation difficulty without it then its clearly not that important.

[umbral glade]

that is not the argument man

clearing dam on 15 is not related to the junk i want in my bag

[lone flower]

Yes, and i still cannot understand why they does not release the full crafting system. Only thing i can imagine is, that they was not ready for release date and someone wanted to release rather than wait

[tranquil grove]

Yeah it is, you said its a basic feature.

[echo kiln]

Okay... the message you replied to does not relate to what you said.

Regardless, yes, a schedule clearly got deeply fucked. They're pushing out the missing content, such as the new smashy sticks, but it should have been in on release. I don't know what the hell went on with the game development. I'm not defending that. It just irks me that people are screaming about Fatshark committing to a patch release date when that's an outright falsehood

[umbral glade]

cuz they are making it

[umbral glade]

both the crafting and the weapon should have been on realise and im very mad about it, but yeah tbh $40 game should not be that mad

but like

🤦‍♂️

[echo kiln]

Yes, they should have. I am not contradicting you.

The game price does not forgive the development schedule fuckery

[tranquil grove]

Its just goofy asf to see people being like: This game I've played for 60 hours is literally unplayable because I can do 10% more damage with my gun but Im not!

[lone flower]

"Oh, we have just 80% of the game ready? Keyfeatures like crafting is not ready? The game keeps crashing, lagging and disconnecting like an early alpha? Ahhhh, no problem, we will nevertheless release on 30th Nov."

[echo kiln]

Gotta make that holiday sales window so the suits get their sales bonuses!

[umbral glade]

you might as well delete that

[tranquil grove]

Also Fatshark employees need to eat. Anthem learned the hard way what endless delays cause. And its a lot worse than not having crafting in the first week but in the first month instead.

[umbral glade]

can they just like

not fuck up

please

like

[echo kiln]

Fatshark fucked some basic game design. You have to give players a sense of agency in the face of RNG. The timegating fucked that. It's a huge misstep around the fundamental psychology of the game.

Of course Big Mad ensued

[umbral glade]

yeah

anyway

gonna see if i can refund all these gifts

after i asked my friends

[lone flower]

So if it is possible to release the crafting system 1 month after release it would not be that hard to move the release to one month later but using the time to release a really good game.

So many friends are fucked up by the issues and the communication, that they stopped playing darktide and does not have any fun in comming back later ...

[tranquil grove]

Only reason people are even mad is cause they came in expecting Vermintide 2 which was explained to not be the case multiple times.

[lone flower]

you gifted a $40 game to 8 of your friends?

[umbral glade]

$60

[lone flower]

Not really, i loved Vermintide and hoped it will be as good, its not but im still playing because it makes fun on another way, but the crashes are so frustrating ....

[lone flower]

So you are one of the Fatshark-Managers with that money to do 😄

[umbral glade]

i do manual work and sell some farm product

[lone flower]

seems to be very rentable

[tranquil grove]

I haven't had much issues the devs aren't aware of since the updates so if you're experiencing something unknown you should post your hardware to people on the forums who understand how to interpret it.

[umbral glade]

but yeah im gonna try to see if i can bully steam enough so they give me back $480

or $540

[lone flower]

Since Release i had >100 crashes.
They all got sended to fatshark. Additional there is a gathering thread with crashes which raises every day ... the crashes are nothing new

[scenic kindle]

Jesus christ
I got a contract to complete 6 secondary missions on a particular map
And Im sitting here for 40 mins, and the map does not show up due to rng
And even if it does, it can be any difficulty from 1 to 5
Im level 30, but cannot do diff 5
And if I start diff 1 or 2 I cannot find groupmates, so I wont get all tomes, coz bots cannot pick up
And diff 3 or 4 missions can roll WITHOUT secondaries
This is just dumb shit gamedesign

[umbral glade]

yeah always reroll those

you can only reroll a combining 3 times

[lone flower]

yes, always!

Complete bullshit

[umbral glade]

books are achievable

[scenic kindle]

I rerolled 4 times and got these types of mission each time, nice one, right?

[lone flower]

at least until you are not able to create a custom mission

[lone flower]

that is not possible, you can only reroll 3 times a task

[scenic kindle]

Wont get +1000 this week I guess
Love this game
But ffs, Fatshark, ur killing me inside

[umbral glade]

id say take a break but thats not for me to say

[lone flower]

had it last week because the reroll lock at 3 was locking me out after the second reroll

[scenic kindle]

3 times then*, sorry, still sucks tho

[umbral glade]

i have all 4 character maxed tbh

i cant finish all the weekly

i dont want to

[lone flower]

understandable

they should have made it less weekly per character or sharing them

[scenic kindle]

Just give us progress for each book, jesus
Like u get 2 out of 3 = +2 to the task progress
Same shit with grims

Or make it any map, but close it to a diffuculty or smth

[mystic rapids]

That is the case isn't it?

if you get out with 2 books then it adds it to the progress.
Unless you mean you get a percentage of the task reward per book?

[scenic kindle]

I mean,
The task progresses +1 only if u complete the mission with all 3 books, so 1/6

They could make like * / 10

But each book at the end off the mission give +1 to progress

So u complete with 2 books (out of 3), u get 2 / 10

[mystic rapids]

Ah, so you're referring to completing secondary objectives, yeah that ones painful

The one for Picking up books counts each one you extract with

[scenic kindle]

Yeah, sorry, guess didnt bring this up properly

No, it does not, unfortunately
Only if u get all 3 books

Ohh, I got you now, you're reffering to book-contract

[mystic rapids]

Yeah sorry, there is a contract that says maybe "Pick up 25 scriptures"

Those count each book

[scenic kindle]

True, this one is ok

1h 10m, the mission i need does not roll

[mystic rapids]

Yeah the time gated missions was a bad move, I should be able to load the game up and try the exact mission I want to, it's a game at the end of the day

[scenic kindle]

True

[echo kiln]

It serves three purposes, one cynical and two good:
Cynical is that it inflates the time players have to spend chasing penances, setting up for more player interaction time.

Good is that is keeps certain maps from becoming overwhelmingly popular and the only thing available to play.

Good is that it concentrates player populations, reducing underpopulated lobbies.

I think it would get less resentment without all the other timegating

[scenic kindle]

Guess then they need to make more missions available at a time, coz its almost 1.5 hours ive been waiting for a particular one and no luck

[mystic rapids]

It inflates the time spent chasing penances and it also adds too much RNG to weekly challenges. It's a pain getting 10 out of 25 scriptures and then the game stops giving you scripture runs. It's definitely good for server population but it might be causing more frustration at this point than anything else.

[echo kiln]

Oh, yeah, the weekly issue. Forgot about that.
Yeah, that's fucked.

The weeklies shouldn't be map specific. Just complete secondary objectives generally

[nova cipher]

Yea, those are the only weeklies that I go to swap out

[spark night]

Hey, one question. WHen pennance tells me I need to complete 7 different missions on certain difficulty, and I have 6/7 and I really dont know which one is the last, is there a way to find out?

[echo kiln]

Nope. Colossal UI oversight (or malice, you decide)

[patent sapphire]

gotta keep track yourself

or try them one by one again

[spark night]

I was afraid of that. God damn.

Thanks

[hollow gyro]

is the patch delayed

[echo kiln]

Yes

[spare tangle]

Is heresy still broken?

[echo kiln]

Yeah

[spare tangle]

It's only heresy right and not all difficultiesM

[mystic rapids]

Heresy is broken? In what sense?

[spare tangle]

It spawns way more specials than damnation does

And infintly

[echo kiln]

Yeah

[mystic rapids]

Oh, that means damnation is broken in my eyes

heresy has been fine

[echo kiln]

If there's no map effect like vents or low intensity, the game director is always running high intensity for some reason

[lament wolf]

It's driving me nuts, my play time is very limited

Incentivises me to play lower difficulty too when I'd like to be doing 4 and 5

[mystic rapids]

I guess I like it that way but I can see it being a problem

[echo kiln]

Yeah, I really like high intensity heresy

[silent compass]

Damage doesn't really matter on a flamer, right? Just Burn and Cloud Radius?

[lament wolf]

It changes the burn DMG per tick I thought

[spare tangle]

I do as well but it feels like it's never ending. It feels broken because it is lol. I shouldn't have to fight endless specials on heresy maybe damnation but not heresy level. It's fun but broke

[silent compass]

ah yeah, it does. But it's 15dmg/tick vs 16/dmg per tick in my case

[echo kiln]

You want it, otherwise the horde will be alive, so don't go with a low roll, but you don't need to chase an 80

[echo kiln]

Yeah, WGAF

[echo kiln]

I have no frame of reference for Tide scaling, so it just seemed natural to me.

[silent compass]

So in this case, I'd say this is worth upgrading yeah?

[spare tangle]

I played cataclysm in vermintide 2 and the way heresy is spawning things constantly is worse than that was and cata was the hardest level in vermintide 2

[lament wolf]

It's not obvious in game but there are decimals, so it may make a difference in death times

[echo kiln]

Wild. Guess I'll be playing Damnation when heresy is unbugged

[silent compass]

i feel like maybe a fraction of a second tho

[spare tangle]

Damnation is easier than heresy is right now

By alot

[echo kiln]

Damn. Now I need a Difficulty 6

[spare tangle]

Lol right

[lament wolf]

Who knows haha

[scenic kindle]

Still waiting, thats bullsh*t

[echo kiln]

I play KF2 modded difficulties. If I'm not scrambling for my life every last second of the match, I don't know what to do with myself 😆

[spare tangle]

They will probably add one because verimtide 2 didn't have cataclysm until much later

So they will add a higher difficultly but not until dlc or something

[silent compass]

servers can barely handle hi intensity heresy at times

[lament wolf]

Ya they'll add difficulties as they add base rolls mods to 100 and stuff like that

[spare tangle]

Yeah

[spare tangle]

Yeah heresy Is beyond broken right now it creates lag in the mission sometimes because the game director is spawning 50 specials all at once

I saw a video where 20 snipers came out of one door way on tiktok

It's hilarious but man so broke

[mystic rapids]

Same for red weapons. hopefully we get them in the future too.

[spare tangle]

Oh yeah

I want me some red guns that glow

And weapons

[mystic rapids]

Ahhh you just reminded me about Bardins flamer and the tip getting super hot

Almost reforged the barrel on that thing everytime I used it

[spare tangle]

Yeah it was soooo good

[crisp shale]

IS THERE SOME ONE I CAN JOIN IN GAME

[echo kiln]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum No need to yell

[crisp shale]

sorry lol @echo kiln

[supple shuttle]

What flash missions? that the lights out?

[hard goblet]

Flash missions haven't been implemented yet.

[supple shuttle]

ah

ty

[hushed wave]

i wonder why my Tac Axe feels stronger than my Power Sword...

[deft agate]

so the update says theyre removing the mtx shop timers but then adding them back whenever theres 24 hours left on something? how is this an improvement? am i missing something? i would rather see the whole timer if theyre remaining timed

[heady citrus]

What’s the superior braced auto gun?

[sage cave]

agripinaa imo

[echo kiln]

Psychology & optics change.
Makes consumers feel less angry and less overtly pressured, appears to be a concession from the devs to the community.

FOMO preservation:
Keeps "Get it now before it's gone" sales effect, on boards new players into understanding there are deadlines, and the rest of us know there's still a timer ticking in the background.

It's a flavor change of the same thing.

(THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE)

[azure fable]

removing even the illusion of even the tiniest semblance of control you might have over your gameplay helps alleviate any anxiety or brain power you might have suffered in the process of playing

[bleak maple]

WAT is brittleness? 5% brit on hit stacks 5 times , wat does it do?

[haughty wedge]

Is there an Ogryn with a shield that is willing to help me with a penance?

[echo kiln]

Brittleness debuffs enemy armor so your whole team does more damage

[echo kiln]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[wise jasper]

does any1 know if resist against flamethrowers in curios works against all types of these flamethrowers? cuz I know they can use green blue or normal flames but am not sure if they all come from same enemy

[echo kiln]

Tox flamers and flamers are not the same enemy.

I do not know know if it's a squares and rectangles situation, where all tox flamers are a subtype of flamers but not all flamers are tox flamers or something like that.

[wise jasper]

riight

ok ty

[echo kiln]

Sorry it's not a more definite answer.

[wise jasper]

do you know if you get more shield power its not gonna get eaten in whole by them then?

cuz as I zealot I almost always die whenever am on 1 hp and get hit by any flame

[deft agate]

yeah idk this feels like WORSE fomo than before considering youd have to check the shop every day to see if the 24hr timer has cut on or not

[echo kiln]

There's always HP bleed from toughness damage. It's not an overshield.

[echo kiln]

Quite possibly, yeah.

[deft agate]

important to note that if youre at 100% toughness it doesnt bleed through

so you can take a hit every few seconds and be fine

[craggy portal]

Went away for a bit, is the game in a stable condition now?

[deft agate]

stable as in like crashes?

[craggy portal]

I mean i had all sorts of errors and crashes so

[deft agate]

idk it might be fixed for you

ive never crashed through closed beta until now but my roomate still crashes every couple hours

just depends on whatever was causing it for you before i guess

[signal wharf]

Is it intentional for camouflages to change the model of certain guns?

[deft agate]

do you mean skins because yes

[echo kiln]

They're working on it. I'd check in after the patch tomorrow. There's no way to know if your system in particular will be better without you just trying the game.

[manic dirge]

untouchable penance doesnt seem working rn.

I got two runs without taking health damage

[austere epoch]

for me i had to get it without taking any damage. I got it the same time i got On overwatch

[hushed wave]

keep getting splatted by snipers. very sad time.

[austere epoch]

get an ogryn with a good lunchbox throwin arm. Those snipers will go away quickly

[finite plank]

Can you inspect weapon on an xbox controller? (Bound to x on a keyboard)

[proven escarp]

Thoughts on Toughness vs Health for Ogryn? Toughness is a lot less, but regens, and a lot of items have regen X toughness etc

[hard goblet]

Health is always king.

Toughness is easily depleted by a few melee attacks.

Health and wounds = how many times things can go wrong before the run ends.

Since toughness takes more damage from melee than ranged and constantly regens, it's not as precious a resource to you at base.

Health is what gives you breathing room to tank hits you have no choice but to take and is a resource you should be managing to preserve through every enemy encounter as much as possible.

[heady citrus]

What’s the best axe if using sharpshooter?

[remote compass]

use weapons that can more reliably damage multiple enemies instead, axes have been a newcomer trap since vermintide 2

depending on your playstyle, the ranged weapon is already your elite/special enemy killing tool, reserve melee for crowd control

[heady citrus]

I mean I already run power sword

[icy solar]

anyone know if this Blessing stacks? i.e. 2 kills gives me 0.8s

[brave rose]

Hello, wondering if anyone can help me out with the "Make Every Shot County" Penance

[fiery wing]

was there supposed to be a update today?

[echo kiln]

For advice, this is the place
For players, #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[echo kiln]

They were planning on it in tandem with the announcement, yeah, but there was a technical issue and it's been delayed until, hopefully, early tomorrow.

[dull carbon]

Does anyone know any good equalizer settings for this game?

[fiery wing]

thx

[feral gust]

Do different classes have different base running speeds? My psyker is slower no matter what she's currently wielding.
(or is movement curios, the fashionable thing to carry)

[hybrid lance]

what does " warzone conditions" mean

[runic marsh]

can someone help me get the on overwatch penance I am really struggling rn and I dont have any friends who have darktide

[echo kiln]

For players, #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[brisk olive]

It should just reset the timer each time, not stack

[high radish]

how do i fix?

[wet magnet]

Idk, sorry

I run the game well but any time I load a horde and a lot of enemies, I get error 2001

[icy solar]

Ok thanks for reply

[icy solar]

I was using a Combat Axe, MkV maybe? 450ish rating and much happier with my 460ish Power Sword. Great for multiple targets and crowd control as well as taking out elites.

Power Sword best melee for Veteran (in my experience)

[tepid skiff]

people were saying that with brutal momentum it's an entirely different axe game.

[echo kiln]

If you're going to use an axe, that's the way to do it, but it's not an ideal weapon for vet. You can definitely make it work, though.

Vet doesn't have the swing speed bonus to really make axes go brrr

[quiet wharf]

my weekly contracts not proceeding.
I complete many missions but still 12/25
pls help. any ideas?

[echo kiln]

Glitch. Devs are looking into it. Restarting game sometimes helps

[warped flint]

Can someone explain to me which is better: +1 wound or 24% max health?

[echo kiln]

How often do you make mistakes and go down?

[plush schooner]

ok this question has been driveing me a bit mad, does the Braced auto gun have some sort of soft aim assist going on with it?

[warped flint]

so more wounds=more bars but the 24% max health is the total of those bars?

[unborn pilot]

so i'm on refinery DELTA-17 disruption. to pressurize the things... and the elevator didn't come down. anything we can do about it? =/

[plush schooner]

more wounds = more bars, heal total should not add to the bars i'm fairly sure

[rugged girder]

Do any of you know what error code 2004 means I cant get into the game because of it

Oh and 4008 as well that one has been giving me some trouble as well

[echo kiln]

Yup.

[echo kiln]

Health total does not add more segments. The bar as a whole is just a bigger number

[plush schooner]

correct yeah

[high radish]

can darktide run on a 1650

[rugged girder]

I don't think so I have a 1650 and I can't even get into the game

I keep getting error code 4008 and 2004

[echo kiln]

Had my first experience with the hit registration bug today

[void plaza]

Tbf not much can run on a 1650 that isn't an inde game.

[rugged girder]

I thought so. Do you know what the error codes 4008 and 2004 mean?

[void plaza]

Usually server errors

Shouldn't prevent the game from running tho. Check connection

[rugged girder]

Will do thanks

[marsh fulcrum]

can the boltgun crit? i've heard mixed opinions

[warped flint]

I just did two missions and it didn't increase any progress for Melk

anyone else having this problem?

[keen wedge]

known issue, only fix is to restart

[warped flint]

ty

[keen wedge]

it's a bug caused by disconnects

always check melk after each mission

the bug can happen anytime tbh

[echo kiln]

Do we know if the intensity modifiers affect mat spawns at all? They shouldn't, right?

[frigid garden]

does lynchpin also increase my own regen?

[coarse steeple]

Gday. Any idea when the new patch (1.0.2) should hit gamepass players?

[hard goblet]

If Fatshark said something about it, it'd be in #📢news-bulletin or their Steam news page.

[coarse steeple]

Thank you mate. 🙂

[keen wedge]

It ONLY affects your regen while in coherency

Team mates don’t get bonus regen

[frigid garden]

guess the perk just has confusing wording then

i thought it gave all my allies a boost

[bleak maple]

I dont know wat to do or maybe i need to publish a video on youtube , so far from last 8 days i'm not able to find any public lobbies , i play with my group but when they are offline , the game always connects me to bots in lobby , i finish full missions and still no player joins it! WHAT IS GOING ON SLIMSHARK?

[vagrant tulip]

Just got this. Do the 2 perks stack? Would this be any good?

[echo kiln]

Insofar as the Devil's Claw is good, that's a pretty good Devil's claw.

Not great, but good.

[onyx schooner]

does evicerator special attack proc shred stacks?

[echo kiln]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[manic roost]

Anyones weekly challenges not tracking properly?

Ill complete one during a mission and then it doesn’t update the guys mission log tracking in the hun

Fething pissin me off

[echo kiln]

This is a known bug. It's pinned on the forums and in the list of bugs being actively investigated and worked on in the patch notes.

[manic roost]

Well I hope it unfeths itself cause imma@lose out on a sick powersword

[orchid dirge]

So I've looked everywhere and can't find proof that background affects anything. Reddit mentions it changes dialogue but I think they're confusing just the different personalities. Do background change your dialogue if you have two different backgrounds with same personality???

[serene latch]

don't think so

maybe in the first video or something when you make the character if they introduce you but the choice doesn't matter after

[echo kiln]

If you're from Cadia you definitely have different voice lines

[orchid dirge]

I don't think this is right either. E.g. I've heard of professional veterans using the same voice line of the cadia trash talk joke despite choosing cadia as their homeworld. Doesn't it only change if they chose the cadian exclusive cuthroat personality?

[echo kiln]

I could swear I've heard "Back on Cadia" lines from profesionals, but I wouldn't bet money on my recall.

[keen wedge]

I have a question... does Infernus still exist for Recon Lasguns?

[orchid dirge]

I've also seen people say this on reddit. I chalked it up to them mixing up the voice actors but maybe you're right

[keen wedge]

not that the damn armory ever SELLS recon lasguns, but...

[orchid dirge]

I wish somebody could confirm. After just getting into the lore recently I don't like any of the choices I made for background, but since it doesn't seem to come up anywhere (unless in dialogue) I don't think I'll really care.

I thought hive guide sounded a lot cooler than what it actually is

[echo kiln]

Come up regularly in mine... RNG be like

[keen wedge]

do you see Infernus as a blessing or is it always something like Dumdum?

[turbid dock]

Never got an infernus

[echo kiln]

Haven't seen one with a 350+ rating yet, so I didn't read the blessings. Sorry.

[keen wedge]

LOL ok, at least I got a good-base recon lasgun

and maniacs is a good perk to roll, helps with ragers

i'll probably upgrade this one and roll Flak on it

[warped flume]

So... am I doing something wrong or is the jump from Malice to Heresy just unfair?

I still haven't managed to complete a Difficulty 4 mission. At least with pugs.

My gear

[supple shuttle]

Does Heresy/Damnation give emperors gift more often or same chance as other diff?

[keen wedge]

heresy I think still has the Endless Hordes bug, so yes it is more difficult without another modifier

[warped flume]

Really? I guess this makes me feel less bad

[warped flume]

Well I just got one done. Maybe the game just wanted me to join the Discord, even if to look for help.

[fast edge]

Whats the scroll all about?

[frail gyro]

What's the max power rating item you can get from the store + what do I need to unlock it?

[frail gyro]

Is max rating sold based on the highest rated item in your possession?

[echo kiln]

380 base from modifiers, 520 with perfect perks and blessings

Store ratings are based on your level. That's it. Just RNG from there.

[echo kiln]

It's a cosmetic from certain penances. I think that's maybe the 10,000 heretic kills?

[marsh elk]

Which is terrible, because I've never seen anything above 350 on my store.

[echo kiln]

350 base or overall?

[marsh elk]

base

and even then it's never the weapon I'm looking for.

[echo kiln]

I mean, highest base I've gotten is 364.

[marsh elk]

I would be happy with a 350 base if the weapon would be the one I want. Generally 350 is already a decent roll, but the fact that I don't get the weapon I want with that roll is also adding to the effect of not seeing anything better.

[frail gyro]

I'm not sure about that, I get 405 on my vet but 387 on my ogryn pretty consistently

[echo kiln]

Those aren't base values. Those are the totals.
The base values are the sum of the percentage bars.

[frail gyro]

I know

[marsh elk]

just got a MKIII hellbore with 360 base rating :D, FINALLY 😄

now I just need a shovel 🙂

[warped flume]

Base rating is it the one on the upper right of the stat meters?

Because if so this seems like a good weapon

[echo kiln]

The one directly across from the word "Modifiers", the 377 (holy hell what a roll)

[warped flume]

Whooo, a Palpatine worthy staff

And Warp Flurry seems like a good blessing

[echo kiln]

If you have a 387 or 405 base rating, please post screenshots. It would change everything. Otherwise, I'm not sure what your point was.

[echo kiln]

I'm not super familiar with optimal staff loadouts, but those seem really good.

Judging by the icon, there are better levels of warp flurry out there

[frail gyro]

I meant the totals - do I need to buy gear with higher totals to run up the gear in the store?

my bad, misread your comment earlier

[hard goblet]

The range of base stats you can see in the store is influenced solely by your trust level.

[frail gyro]

thanks

[echo kiln]

All good

[keen wasp]

i really hope this is just cus they copy pasted and forgot to delete but wdym OR HIGHER??

[echo kiln]

If red weapons are added, they will roll over damnation. Need a difficulty beyond for them.

[keen wasp]

i thought damnation served as cataclysm

damn

[echo kiln]

They may be taking from the fact that the community enthusiastically created difficulties beyond Cataclysm in VT2

[fiery vigil]

damnation is way easier than cata and it's not even close

they need to rethink how they do difficulty in this game and redistribute threat away from ranged trash and into pressure units like crushers that are currently borderline ignorable

hopefully they just rebalance all the difficulties to be more in line with VT but if they have to add something higher than damnation, that'll work too even though it kind of sucks

[heady citrus]

Yeah it’s honestly kinda weird that “big threats” like that are more or less cheese compared to “by the throne there are 40 traitor guardsman spamming lasguns in this hallway”

[shell heart]

would this surge staff be a decent purchase

[remote compass]

I mean it worked on me lol, I couldn't get past the first three minutes of a mission because of a firing squad

[remote compass]

unyielding means only monster damage, you could get more stamina from other sources than the weapon, suppression is good though

waiting for the day we can change the perks

[shell heart]

im relatively new so i have no fucking clue about any of the perk interactions and stuff

do i buy or nah

my current surge is dogwater so i was thinking i should get a replacement

[autumn ibex]

neat

[remote compass]

if you want just more damage/power alone, I think you can buy it
and save it for later once you can optimize it further

[echo kiln]

Not for Melk bucks, no

[shell heart]

aight

[shell heart]

nah surge damage is kinda bad i only use it as a cc support

[shell heart]

what would qualify as being worthy of melk bucks

[echo kiln]

On any item, you want 330+ base stats, the closer to 380 the better, and 1 good perk, since we can only reroll 1.

[shell heart]

aight thanks chap

[autumn ibex]

mystery rolls

[shell heart]

now this mf knows what he’s talkin bout

[shell heart]

btw by 330+ do you mean the rating of the weapon

[echo kiln]

The number across from modifiers. The 299 in your picture

[untold badger]

Quick question: is there any easy way check which mission types I’ve yet to complete for the tier 2 penance that requires you to complete all of them on malice? For the previous tier I just looked to see which missions were 0/50 on other penances, but I obviously can’t do that anymore since I’ve done them all at least once already

[echo kiln]

No.

[untold badger]

Understood 😄

It’s all part of the challenge then

[echo kiln]

It's certainly something

[tepid skiff]

pen and paper gaming.

usually the ones missing are investigation and espionage, as the rarest.

but for the future it's safer to just note it down.

[echo kiln]

My plan is just to wait until either the UI improves or it just happens. I cannot be assed to track that for a damn penance

[rich smelt]

There is one thing that fucking piss me off... Getting attack from behind while I have 1-2 teammates behind me...

[tepid skiff]

ye, small dudes always sneak by.

i can't catch them properly when defending a mate fixing a data skull, for instance. disappointing.

[echo kiln]

You're expecting pub teammates to watch for uncovered angles and not get distracted by the nearest thing to kill.

[rich smelt]

If I can, why they don't?

[tepid skiff]

for some reason it's hard to do it in this game. enemies get really scattered and end up being always all over the place.

unless you always swing around wildly looking for hitmarkers, you're gonna get butt poked.

[ornate compass]

Crucian Roulette says it increase Crit by 4% for every empty chamber but does that mean I can have an empty weapon on my character and receive the benefits while wielding a melee weapon?

[topaz lark]

im pretty sure all blessings only work when weapon is wielded

same how it was in VT2

[tepid skiff]

people were mentioning some cheese with this blessing, so there could be something to it, maybe?

but it should apply only to this weapon, yes.

[hard goblet]

Average player performance is ⬇️ .

[heady citrus]

It slightly increases at Heresy

[hard goblet]

And only just.

[heady citrus]

I mean in all fairness I’ve had some real kickass teams in pubs, but it’s just been a lot of luck. I’ve had my fair share of “I’ve picked you up for the fifth time, pray you don’t go down a sixth time”

[ornate compass]

Just looked it up and I'm finding some forums and even some tickets on fatshark's bug reporter that seem to indicate that it does actually effect a player's melee weapon

[topaz lark]

kek
well, its obviously a bug

[hard goblet]

Oh absolutely. Some of my best pubs were in damnation. Well oiled machines, wordless support actions, staggered retreats without needing to speak or even type.

When things went smoothly it was the most bad ass feeling.

[echo kiln]

My best games have all been my KF2 CD buddies. My pubs luck has been garbage.

[hard goblet]

And then there's the "psyker blew himself up for the 6th time in a row in the last 8 minutes".

[ornate compass]

Maybe? If there's a bug, its definitely the other auto weapons having access to the blessing as well.

[echo kiln]

I, unfortunately, resemble this remark currently. I'm working on it.

[hard goblet]

I haven't played KF2 in years, Jesus.

[topaz lark]

imagine an autogun with 20+ rounds in magazine and +4% crit for each "empty chamber"

[hard goblet]

Think I quit right when lootboxes were added?

[ornate compass]

+120% crit if you've got a nearly empty mag on a 31 shot weapon.

[hard goblet]

Fear.

But also, funny.

[topaz lark]

I doubt fatshark will allow this

[ornate compass]

The bonus appears to be multiplicative with the effected weapon's base crit.

[hard goblet]

Well, at least you're aware of it.

[hard goblet]

Sadly.

[echo kiln]

I did it 3 times in my first game with a staff. I nearly imploded with cringe.

[ornate compass]

So a weapon with 10% crit chance would go to 24% if effected by the supposed 120% bonus provided by Crucian Roulette

But 20% from an empty revolver would make it be 12%

[echo kiln]

That math does not check out. I don't know the blessing off the top of my head, but that would be 22%.

[ornate compass]

Yeah you're right

I need sleep

If this is the case though, a preacher with a tacical axe or knife can really do some crazy shit in melee

[rich smelt]

Patch could be up in any time now, right?

Could be in 20min or in 5 hours

[echo kiln]

The update is not currently out at this exact moment.
You're now caught up on everything there is to know.

[rich smelt]

I have my steam window open to see if the patch pops in the download section

[fast edge]

Ah cool, thanks!

[echo kiln]

Before I started, then. They've always been there for me.

[neat jacinth]

Spotted on the forums just now

[rich smelt]

It is just me or Mourningstar lobby has lower graphics than our inventory? 🤔

[echo kiln]

Maaaaaaaath 😄 ❤️

[stark stream]

Hello!

How medipack works? Time or amount?

[topaz lark]

I believe its amount, but not sure exactly how much

and its probably both, since packs will never stay forever, even if you are all full-hp

[hollow flare]

this ... low hp ogryns for example eat through a medi-pack REAL fast
but yes they also wont stay on the ground forever

[vivid ibex]

hey folks, when is update dropping todya ?

[echo kiln]

The update is not currently out at this exact moment.
You're now caught up on everything there is to know.

Gen chat thinks they're funny

[jaunty cobalt]

need general build for every char

[echo kiln]

Click heads, dodge lots, block what you can't dodge.

Can you be more specific?

[jaunty cobalt]

thanks a lot

[little jewel]

Are the the weekly contracts bugged atm? Getting no progress after missions on any of them

[patent sapphire]

known issue

[echo kiln]

Yes. It's on the forums and in the patch notes and everything.

[little jewel]

cool thanks

[inner minnow]

How to complete the penance for zealot by killing a mutant? I have done this many times by oneshotting him during active skill and none of the attempts were checked in

[atomic plinth]

Is anyone else's game crashing before the operative select screen?

Tried asking in the general chat but no help there

[echo kiln]

Never ask gen chat real questions.

[atomic plinth]

Yeah i figured haha

[echo kiln]

It may be bugged rn. You're not the first person reporting its borked

[brisk olive]

The mutant has to be charging and you have to counter charge and kill it in one hit

The language is vague and doesn't make it clear it only works while the mutie is charging

[topaz lark]

I dont believe you can even counter-charge it

it just grabs you out of your charge

[brisk olive]

Yeah, timing has to be perfect with a hammer or he has to be charging someone else, it sucks

[topaz lark]

you also cant oneshot him on any decent difficulty

so he has to be damaged just enough

[brisk olive]

Charged thunder hammer heavy to the head on malice, hopefully after you or allies have shot him at a distance.

Right, like a lot of the higher level penances, not only is it difficult which is fine, so many things have to line up perfectly (which sucks)

It's like the higher penances were developed in a group brain storming session of neat ideas on a whiteboard and not really tested

[white mortar]

you can also get it if its targeting someone else i think

[brisk olive]

Yep

[gloomy mauve]

You can do it on any difficulty. Take weapons that deal big single target damage and take any feats that increase melee damage. Pressing F to activate your ability dashes you forward but if you are aiming at an enemy you will gain a lot more distance than usual (nearly 10 times) and you can attack however you like while dashing (charge up a heavy attack for example) and if an enemy runs away your ability will keep you after em. Try to go after mutants that are trying to grab your teammates instead of you since the "grab hitbox" is way further out than you might reasonably reach. The mutant charging is indicated by his speedy trail.

If youre doing it with randos or even friends tell em outright that you are aiming to do said penance

most people wanna be friendly and help you out if need be

just gotta say it first (being polite is always great aswell)

but yeah you can do it on difficulty one even

with penances, read the thing it needs you to do so that you fully understand it

[torpid adder]

Is this knife good for damnation?

[inner minnow]

It's pretty much obvious, yes
I agree with @echo kiln at this point because I have killed mutant with charged hammer multiple times in multiple ways in one shot, such as:

1. Killing him while he's grabbing other teammate
2. Killing him while he's pondering a teammate
3. Failed to grab me
4. While I dashed into his model and then killed him
5. And before I was able to touch his model for a bit further distance

[gloomy mauve]

if he has grabbed your teammate he has already stopped charging. Him moving is him charging around but most important part that you kill him while hes moving after you activate your ability and kill him with the single strike the ability gives you

[abstract jolt]

hello, where patch?

[gloomy mauve]

"aimed for today"

keyword in "aimed"

[warm nebula]

Unfortunately Fatshark is being “suppressed” right now, they need to duck into cover before they can regain their aim

[echo kiln]

The update is not currently out at this exact moment.
You're now caught up on every specific there is to know.

Crushing out updates at high speed is hard.

[gloomy mauve]

from what ive seen fatshark has been doing a better job at making the game playable than activision has done with mw2

[patent sapphire]

are all these people asking “where update” in GMT+1 or do they just have nothing to do on a weekday

[echo kiln]

Yup, but don't let gen chat see you giving the Fatshark labor force an ounce of credit.

[gloomy mauve]

all i gotta say is:

[foggy cape]

anyone know if special attacks on the eviscerator/chainsword/force sword proc repeated hit blessings? can each individual damage tick crit or is it for the whole attack?

[echo kiln]

Tens of thousands players and Discord members means you're going to get multitudes of people on nonstandard schedules

[patent sapphire]

i suppose for all destiny’s flaws their communication from the dev team and standardization of patches is not one of them

you always know the day and time of a patch because it’s always tuesday at 1800 UTC

barring like critical hotfixes

[echo kiln]

Different development structure 🤷‍♂️

[echo kiln]

Force sword: Yes

[foggy cape]

so if i have an uncanny strike force sword and i special attack a weakspot, it will give rending for every individual damage tick yes?

Uncanny Strike
+6-20% Rending on enemy weak spot hit for 2.5 seconds. Stacks 5 times.

[echo kiln]

Misunderstood your question. Thought the force sword was just talking about affecting cleave, not the weird burst thingy.

Never tested that interaction. Don't know that anyone has. Have fun in the psykhanium.

[patent sapphire]

also probably way more resources and way bigger studio

[echo kiln]

Yes, hence the different structure

[mystic rapids]

The way I did it was to shoot him a few times whilst he was far away to soften him up for a one shot, and as he approaches, hit F and manage to hit him before he grabs you or anyone else. You'll get it eventually.

[junior berry]

guys, what the hell is "ignore enemy hit mass" and is it good or bad?

[echo kiln]

Weapon has cleave value
Enemy has hit mass value
Every impact, hit mass value added up
When hit mass value is equal to or greater than cleave value, cleave stops at that target.

[junior berry]

so while ignore hit mass is active, you cleave to your weapon's max potential regardless, am i understanding correct?

[echo kiln]

0+0+0+0 cannot be greater than cleave value

[patent sapphire]

think of it like activating the power swords special ability

[twin swallow]

Is one of the maps bugged or something? Keep crashing at the loading screen for HL-76 and specifically when Morrow is saying the line about Leman Russ tanks being vital

And only for that specific map, everything else loads fine

[fringe panther]

Is perfect strike really bad for eviscerator? THe one that makes crits ignore hit mass bonus from armor

[patent sapphire]

ignoring hit mass will make all your cleaving attacks hit everything in its arc

[echo kiln]

Why settle for something that only removes some hitmass on some enemies?

[spiral gale]

How in the bloody heck am i supposed to get on overwatch done.

When even a friggin base cultist can hit me at FULL TOUGHNESS n deal dmg to my health in that attack.

Like. Wtf. I’ve been trying for 8 hrs by now.

Every. Damn. Time. They hit me n deal dmg THRU my toughness.

[fringe panther]

Ah so it doesnt make the eviscerator unusable, there are just better choices out there /nods

I thought it screws up the special attack or something lol

[echo kiln]

Camo
Check your back often
Play Low Intensity
Don't miss blocks or dodges

[grave ocean]

pain

[fossil basin]

how do I know if this flamer is the gun that puts out 1 fireball at a time or that one that continously breathes out fire like a dragon peeing?

[short glen]

if you inspect it you should be able to see more details on its mode

[lament wolf]

What are you asking?

[nova cipher]

Your primary attack [mb1] is the 1 fireball at a time, your secondary attack [mb2] is your continuous breath of dragon pee. Not dependent on a type of a flamer as there no more type than 1. You do want to look at cloud radius for your big breath though

[iron ledge]

where new mission?

[final perch]

is the chainsword (1 handed) any good now with the buffs for veteran?

[floral birch]

How big was the update?

[twin swallow]

About 7.4gb I think

[fossil basin]

for efficient leveling is the highest difficulty you can finish always the best?

[nova cipher]

the update is out now?

[hushed wave]

just had a good Malice run. Feels g00d.

[warm nebula]

Update is out client-side. Content needs to wait server-side until enough clients are updated

[twin swallow]

Are the new weapons in the shop yet though?

[hushed wave]

not yet. I think they're in the data, but not being pushed to the shop yet.

[warm nebula]

They need to wait until enough people are patched before they put the new weapons in rotation

[void plaza]

Can you roll 2 of the same perk on something?

[abstract kayak]

Should I keep unyielding 20% dmg on my powersword?

[fair sequoia]

Got the Every shot counts using a shotgun, if it can help anyone

Also had ammo left, so I think you just need to deplete the original ammo count

[round trail]

What the green arrows under missions mean? doesnt show in description

[fair sequoia]

New, I assume

[edgy wedge]

naw wait till you have to do it on heresy

suffering

[grave ocean]

Youve played heresy?

[edgy wedge]

I’ve beaten everything on damnation

I’m at the point where I have every scripture and grimoire spot memorized

[serene latch]

im really surprised how people can tell teh difference between the maps

it's the same maps to me

apart from that sand one

[edgy wedge]

there’s multiple sand ones

man you really cannot tell them apart

[serene latch]

see, same map to me

there's a sand map, there's a city map, and then there's a tunnel map

to me, there's 3 maps

all look the same

[edgy wedge]

I can tell them apart because of repetition; I’ve got three level 30 characters and another level 12

There’s the cool church map

The frame killing one

[serene latch]

that's the city one

new one

[umbral matrix]

anyone else feel poxbursters were bugged with this update?

most of the time they dont get knocked back anymore

wanna know if anyone else feels it before i submit a bug report

[spring needle]

Is there a way to disable the intro cinematic?

[topaz lark]

apparently in options

[spring needle]

Where :O

[topaz lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spring needle]

Oh, under Interface. Thanks 100rub

[amber tulip]

Is this a good curio for damnation ogryn, or should I reroll regen off for ssomething else?

[silent compass]

Does dmg vs carapace enemies mean for example, more damage on Bulwarks? Or more damage on the carapace armored sections of any enemy who has them?

[hard goblet]

The latter I believe.

[silent compass]

Gotcha, ty

[patent sapphire]

health and gunner resistance seem to be the most important ogryn stuff long term

[amber tulip]

Maybe I could reroll the regen for gunner res then. Gunners are usually what destroy me and 4% on ult regen isn't going to be noticeable. Appreciate it

[visual burrow]

How do i disable bots in a private match?

[fair sequoia]

You cant

"Just keep playing the game

[visual burrow]

whats the point then? wtf

[fair sequoia]

Thats all I got left for my Veteran lol

[fair sequoia]

To only play with friends i guess

[mystic rapids]

It's how the difficulty is balanced, for 4 players. I admit though, bots don't quite fill the role for solo play.

[lean stratus]

Hey guys, i hope you are alright. Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches?

[visual burrow]

Yeah but the whole point to me of private matches has always been to play duo with a buddy as just a fun challenge, even if its impossible. Owell maybe in a later patch

[long quail]

Anyone willing to help me get the “Going out with a bang” penance?

[warm violet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zmqctn/green_arrows_under_missions_in_the_mission/

[deft agate]

why are the meat grinder monsters locked behind a level requirement when you can see all of them at low mission difficulties regardless? i just want to test bulwark staggers but i have to wait so long for that even though theyre in all my missions already

[warm violet]

vox-lfg is yer friend

[long quail]

Ohh

[odd crater]

is max item quality 500? does 380 stats limit blessing potency if so?

[lean stratus]

Hey guys, i hope you are alright. Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches? Because i killed 3 elite when i explode but dont get the archivement

[signal cipher]

Game was running so well then boom error 2004

[serene latch]

5 weapon stats are limited to 380 on yellow items, will be higher once they "to everyone's big surprise" release the red items

perks/talents go on top of that

[drifting kiln]

Can anyone help with going out with a bang?

[split spindle]

is toughness above 100 still bugged?

[quiet wharf]

are you sure they are going to do that? I mean red items

[heady harbor]

Can anyone help me set up 6 ogryns for me with a charge?

[hard goblet]

That's been fixed.

[sudden knot]

I noticed something strange with Autoguns. Why is recoil control worse when crouching than standing?
Shouldn't it be the opposite?

[odd crater]

They probably have to do red items, or some other way to get weapon stats over 80

[rigid wasp]

You know, I thought I was crazy when I noticed my crosshair get bigger when I crouched.

[sudden knot]

Oh, so I'm not the only one. Also you can notice that more when you aiming down sight.

Someone needs to make a post on forums about this.

[topaz lark]

my bet is that they fucked up the modifier

[sudden knot]

I'm making a post on FatShark forums.

[deft agate]

is there no way to report someone in game? had a match where a duo were just spamming slurs in the text chat and it felt kinda bad that all i could do was disconnect

[sudden knot]

Post created:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/autogun-recoil/69130

https://youtu.be/A8fBlBLQtlQ

[raven mulch]

anyone getting unable to perform operation in darktide when refining a curio?

[lone flower]

Yeyyy, new patch and crashed first map .... ffs fatshark -.-"

[warped summit]

So is damage resistance vs gunners just for Scab and Dreg Gunners or does it also apply for Ogryn Reapers too?

[lone flower]

Does anyone know how to unlock the new Power Mace for Ogryn?

[lone flower]

afaik not for ogryn

[tepid skiff]

by waiting until they start dropping. at some point.

[lone flower]

anyone had one already in shop?

[tepid skiff]

well, appearing in store, rather. because there are no loot drops in this game.

not yet.

[serene latch]

why else would they cap stats at 80%?

[wheat terrace]

Is there any news about Steam and GP crossplay? Any new ETAs?

[tepid skiff]

to incrementally raise that cap with further updates, each time invalidating the entire player base inventories.

[serene latch]

exactly, welcome red items "patch"

aka late af update to the base version

[arctic kelp]

what're these new danglydoos at the bottom of the icons?

[topaz lark]

aka the patch I start playing

[topaz lark]

nobody knows

[arctic kelp]

oho a mystery!

also is anyone else's chat just completely not working cause gohs

[topaz lark]

chat stops working if you lost the connection to chat server

[arctic kelp]

oh good, that's probably normal

[topaz lark]

happened to me many times

your chat will not work until you restart the game

[tepid skiff]

full bar reds would be a best case scenario. but I'm afraid it might be incremental instead. like for some major update 85% bar items will start dropping, etc.

[plain coral]

If you refine a green weapon, then consecrate that weapon to purple, will the new perk be locked?

[tepid skiff]

yes.

[rigid wasp]

Quick question, when you make a squad does game choose a server closest to that person or do you all connect to a central server? Ping related

[tepid skiff]

and what about those green rectangles on the right edge of mission icons, do you know what are those?

[plain coral]

Well I guess it's refund time

[round wagon]

How do I earn the cosmetics featured in the patch trailer?

[topaz lark]

those are purely cosmetic

[topaz lark]

which trailer

[round wagon]

Just dropped on their YouTube about the new map and weapons

[topaz lark]

people keep asking about those things, but if you look closely, every single mission has a bunch of pseudo-ui stuff around it

[serene latch]

"they catching up on the base version of the game"

it's not new

[topaz lark]

link plz

[round wagon]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/735418797992968252

[round wagon]

I don't understand what you mean by this can you clarify? I'm sorry

[topaz lark]

oh kek I believe those are still not available

thats the ogryn trailer armor set which is not from penances

[serene latch]

they are releasing shit that was supposed to be in the "RELEASE DATE" version of the game

[round wagon]

Are you saying the cosmetics in the trailer are not in the game?

[topaz lark]

and zelot eyepatch which is whom who-the-fuck-knows-where

[lone flower]

Does anyone know what the symbols under the missions mean?

[topaz lark]

thats the trick, they are in the game, but you cant get them

[round wagon]

[lone flower]

i think aquilas shop later

[topaz lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[topaz lark]

please scroll even one screen up and you will see that nobody does

or better yet, use search

im patient but I've answered this exact question like 6 times since patch dropped

[lone flower]

And why you do?

[topaz lark]

im just that stupid that I like helping people

[keen wasp]

did i get the worst timing ever to get so few missions shows or is this bugged?

[lone flower]

But it does not help if you get angry by doing it and getting unfriendly later 😛

[topaz lark]

thats a new one

[lone flower]

same as me currently, seems like servers have problems

[topaz lark]

im not angry, just disappointed

[lone flower]

until now

[topaz lark]

[keen wasp]

damn

wew they just burst

[rare dagger]

HI guys, don't understand how should I complete the "Make every shot count" penances, had a 100% accuracy and no ammo, didn't understand why i didn't get it ( the only thing that might be, is that i was dead once, and shot at the demonic sprout. These demonic eyes as an objective that you need to destroy, i don't how to explain 😅) can somebody help me, I am struggling for this shit for 4 days, it's fuking ridiculous.

[rich smelt]

I noticed that right now too

Any ideas?

[earnest creek]

whats the best mission to get Malleus Monstronum done on?

[fair sequoia]

Prob hadnt 100%

Use a shotgun and only shoot at groups

[rare dagger]

you mean that this thing is not an enemy and that is why when you shot at this shht, you wouldn't have 100%?

[dreamy briar]

Sure it's been asked but what level is the new weapons unlocked?

[lone flower]

Does someone know the difference between stagger and impact?

[lone flower]

The Zealot two handed Mace was unlocked for me at lvl 7

[gilded flare]

What's the highest roll % you can get for the combat ability regeneration perk on curios

[mild basin]

anyone know how to find someone you played with? they're not showing up under previous mission and they asked for help with a pennance

the option to merge party has gone

[azure fable]

It didn't work so they removed it

The social system is broken

[mild basin]

oh

lol

thanks

[rigid wasp]

try pressing shit + tab, there is a button called recent players

[mild basin]

yeah they arent coming up on that 😦

[azure fable]

Recent players doesn't work (for me)

[mild basin]

oh well, if feel bad because i said id help but i tried 😛

[rigid wasp]

x)

[dreamy briar]

Stagger is making enemies fall down. Impact in the chance to make stagger happen to my knowledge.

[mild basin]

good luck out there Gaz, you crazy ogryn!

anyone know what the sergeat chevrons are in the mission selection thats under some of the maps?

they are the light green thing that flashes

[rigid wasp]

Hey all, this might be a stupid question, but the game says it's available on Xbox series x, but I'm not seeing it available for purchase on the Xbox store, is it not out on console yet or am I just not seeing it?

[mild basin]

I dont know for certain but I dont think they've released it for console yet

think they're still tweaking things

thats what i heard a few days ago anyway

[red quartz]

is the task reroll still broken?

[odd crater]

i think there is a limit, on reroll, maybe that?

[open cargo]

[abstract kayak]

Hey don't be angry mr turtke

[fair sequoia]

it doesnt hitmark, so dont shoot it

[brittle vessel]

guys how can i get lvl 5 gun

[dim wind]

Is the New map Out Yet?

[brittle vessel]

how is it look like

[sour root]

anyone know what the marks under a mission mean?

i think maybe its a mark that iw completed it once before? idk tho?

[brittle vessel]

which one

[sour root]

the green mark thing, under the picture

[brittle vessel]

maybe just for the decoration idk it has 4 wings

each side

[unique goblet]

hey does any1 know what the green symbol thing is under the mission on the mission board

[sour root]

not seen it ever before.. but it did show up after i finished that specific mission

[warm violet]

Nobody knows

It's new with todays update

[sour root]

think its "you have done this mission before on this difficulty

[warm violet]

Various tests are being run, so far no definitive result

[sour root]

like the border in vermintide 2. telling you what difficulty you have managed a mission on

[unique goblet]

its definitely marking the missions youve done before

[sleek heath]

It is not appearing on all missions for people who have completed all missions though

[warm violet]

Did you finish that mission on Damnnation though?

[sleek heath]

unless it isn't counting missions prior to the patch?

[mild basin]

is it to do with Ordos do you think?

[sour root]

no on heresy

[warm violet]

According to people running the tests no. No bigger reward, no guaranteed emperors gift

[sleek heath]

I don't have any missions for Melk that require secondary quests.

[mild basin]

I'm pretty sure this is ordo's, I have to do things in Chasm Logistratum and its the only one with it

oh nm no its not 😄

[warm violet]

Since that icon looks pretty maxed out with the skull and all. And so far no "bigger" one has been seen

[mild basin]

maybe its to do with missions in progress

[warm violet]

Also no. Usual load times on those

[mild basin]

ah

[warm violet]

It's most likely a planned feature that got halfassedly implemented in this update

[mild basin]

well, we didn't get a new map but they did give us riddles 😛

[mild basin]

yeah probably 😄

[warm violet]

Don't forget that they also borked the psyker

[mild basin]

did they?

what happened ?

I feel sorry for them nothing is going their way atm

[warm violet]

Some issues with venting and and new VFX are apparently super eye cancer inducing

[mild basin]

oh no...

[azure fable]

I consider it revenge for getting paired with so many expecting to accomplish their penances with randos without asking first

[spare tangle]

Yeah it's bad the lightning staff blinds everyone on your team including you

[mild basin]

haha im going to have to try it out now

[spare tangle]

Everything is like you are shining the sun at someone

[mild basin]

forget faith, i'm powered by the fucking sun!

[spare tangle]

Lol

[mild basin]

well timed 😄

[warm violet]

ok so there is a 5th flair so it seems quite likely that it is tracking the cleared difficulty

[edgy wedge]

Yoooo that’s so cool

[lone flower]

could you check if its per character or per account?

[warm violet]

Apparently per account

[brittle vessel]

hi intensity engagement zone it just means enemies are more stronger ?

or is it mean the elites will spawn much more ?

[lone flower]

this

[brittle vessel]

ty

[fringe saffron]

Guessing they all disappear when you have 7/7 damnation clears? It's like this for all my characters

[lone flower]

btw. low entensity or high entensity giving same reward addition

[warm violet]

since the update?

[fringe saffron]

yeah just took that pic

[warm violet]

I mean did you clear them on T5 after the update

[fringe saffron]

nope but still shows nothing after doing them on malice

[lone flower]

good question, it seems like the icons just appear for missions youve done since update