gameplay-help

[shrewd pendant]

It's me, I wrote that. And you can speed that up but that's only a delay when at 00 ammo, you mash it to start reload, the reload itself is not that long, and then you gotta do the animation of pulling the gun out which is not part of the reload animation

[elfin ingot]

yeah but it kind of makes up for the damage with the +50% weak spot damage.

[magic thicket]

is

hang on

[quiet ginkgo]

this one is bananas

[magic thicket]

im going into a game rq to see if you can just "cancel" the draw animation

[shrewd pendant]

That's all good, playing is the best way to learn and you can have the most trash build ever and still clear all the content if you have good coordination.

[unkempt nebula]

if you wanna play hit me up, idk if our time will match up but if it does, im around to run games

[compact crystal]

Well I’ll Make time when your available

[magic thicket]

ahhhhh I can't find a plasma gun with fucking Rending

[unkempt nebula]

one thing tho, does anyone know if the servers are spilt by region or all toghther?

[magic thicket]

let alone +damage to carapace

[unkempt nebula]

if its split im in apac

[compact crystal]

I am taking a few weeks off work during the holidays. I don’t have family around so I’ll just be eating, sleeping and gaming

What’s that

[elfin ingot]

[unkempt nebula]

asia pacific

if you look at the vox channels below, there is 3 regoins that are for looking for games

[compact crystal]

I am in US. Just seems really difficult to find someone to show me the ropes. I don’t want to waste your time

[unkempt nebula]

and microsoft

[quiet ginkgo]

more bananery!

[magic thicket]

No I'm just saying that you can skip the draw animation if you want to reload

So it's technically even shorter in that situation

[compact crystal]

Plus, to be perfectly honest, I suck at most games anyways…. I just wanted to try out this game because it looks interesting

But not trying to upset or make anyone mad

[elfin ingot]

i need to transcend it to see what i get but i dislike using it.

[nova cipher]

just start at lvl 1, and work your way up, you get the hang of it

[unreal locust]

Please help. I can't be the only person having this problem. Its screwing me up going between the two games. Using and wasting my ability when I need to tag.

[unkempt nebula]

also diff 1 is really chill

[compact crystal]

Nevermind, I’ll just try and find someone in another community. I hope you guys have a great week and a great holiday. I just need to learn to not ask stupid questions

[nova cipher]

o.O

[compact crystal]

I just struggle catching on to games

Sorry again for bothering you guys. Thanks for replying to me

[shrewd pendant]

oh gotcha. also the slide cancel draw animation does let you start shooting quicker but if you want to aim down sites it's about the same

[hidden burrow]

anyone else struggling with kill 750 dregs with ranged rn? ive done 3 maps n only been usin lasgun and it wont go up

n yes dregs are the guys in the yellow rags not the armored gunner scabs

[unkempt nebula]

just rng, keep playing until the map spawn mainly dreg

i had the same problem with scab

[covert crane]

So is All or Nothing as useless as it sounds here? I'm assuming the pitiful bonus drops even lower as I use up stamina

[hasty totem]

isn't it the reverse?

the saying makes me think when stamina is almost empty, but I'm a glass half empty guy. could be the reverse, but then you wouldn't really dodge/block/push

[fierce gazelle]

I have that same problem

Shits frozen

[hollow flame]

toughness is kinda weird, because whether you want more health or more toughness is based off not how often you get hit, but rather how often you get hit in a small time period

Full toughness is damage immunity to most forms of damage, and more toughness makes it so when you get hit, the amount of toughness you lose as a percentage is less

More health will prevent deeper curse, and help you when your toughness can't recover at all because you keep getting hit

[hollow flame]

4% power is 4% damage, and stagger
It can push you over a break point... or do nothing

How does hitting specials work on controller

[elfin hill]

is there a way to find out what the last mission type i need for my penance is

[fallen turret]

Its probably investigation or espionage

[elfin hill]

i need 1 mission type left to complete on heresy

no idea what it is

[fallen turret]

time to write down what you can recall not doing on heresy

[elfin hill]

bleh

[tawdry flare]

Can you scrap weapons for gold?

[haughty umbra]

Discard the weapon in your inventory

[tawdry flare]

Thank you

[teal portal]

does anyone know how different melee weapon variants behave? like what's the difference between a MK IV and MK II tactical axe? is it the same as ranged weapons?

[odd sparrow]

Buy them and test but it's basically the move set.
Different moves do cleave or armor pierce

Tactical axe is meta right now since it just works well

Combat and assassins axe are still good but just not as good

[untold herald]

quite lterally the funniest bug ive seen

stayed that way the whole run and every cut scene

we were in tears laughing

[tired crown]

I wish I could figure out how to reproduce it, I'd rock that all the time!

[sullen berry]

Does anyone have any gameplay tips on how to get out of this? Lol

I got charged at an airlock and pulled through the door. Then i was glued to his left arm. He just charged around and teleported to the other teammates. held me for a good solid 60 seconds. then the game crashed. That was hilarious

[night wyvern]

what are all the lfg chats?

[covert thistle]

Curios that share the same perk, do they stack for each one? Ex: 2 15% reduce damage from snipers

So only the money then?

K, just wanted 2 know thanks.

[weary finch]

10+ error code: 2001 trying to play through my first game of the night. 😑

[quiet comet]

is there a sound trappers make when they spawn or is the only audio cue the taser charging a millisecond before I get netted in the back right before a drop off after my team has already jumped down?

[untold herald]

Power through it

[prime moon]

Anyone know roughly how much stamina i need to complete "the big G proteccc 1 and 2)

Playing SV if that matters.

[haughty umbra]

SV?

[prime moon]

VS*

Veteran sharpshooter.

[haughty umbra]

Ah, my bad. If it helps, I got it with Psyker using a deflector sword with peril block vs a daemonhost

I know shield Ogryn will also work very easily for that.

I dunno about Veteran's good block options

[prime moon]

Thanks anyways, if i cant figure it out ill just have to level a ogryn up later down the road

[haughty umbra]

The shield unlocks at 10, so you can get it pretty early

[prime moon]

Ah that makes it less pain, ty

[livid lagoon]

im trying to do vantage point 3 and im 5/7 but did not mark them down but looking on redit says there can be a way to see what ones i still have left to do in penance mission section but im looking and cant find where it tells me, any idea's :3

[void plaza]

Absolute best perks for a powersword? Asking for a friend...

[elfin hill]

pain

[verbal wyvern]

Is executor referring to increasing the Haymaker perk %?

[haughty umbra]

Nah I think executor boosts either damage or power, those 2 blessings aren’t really tied

[blissful python]

power cycler is king

[mental canyon]

How often does the cosmetics vendor store refresh items?

[turbid dock]

any fix for weeklies not updating? thanks

[verbal wyvern]

its just delayed from what ive seen

[turbid dock]

alright i'll update later

[gaunt nebula]

can I invite someone who is using gamepass if im using steam?

[void plaza]

Is the ignore hitmass the 2nd go to?

[prime moon]

There is no cross play currently

[gaunt nebula]

thats fucked

[rigid wasp]

I have done Just a Flesh wound on hearasy Sub 20 but it didnt count it's been 3 day who do i tell?

[blissful python]

doesnt really matter since power cycler lets you murder everything

[gaunt nebula]

that says 20m not 19

[rigid wasp]

but thats 20 on the Dot

[gaunt nebula]

right sub 20 = 19.999999999

not 20

[rigid wasp]

ya it was sub 20

still sould count

[spring escarp]

"In under 20 minutes"
Completion screen shows 20 minutes
under being the keyword here

[rigid wasp]

On my stop watching it 19:99

[spring escarp]

thats great, game shows 20

[proper smelt]

Sad

[chrome rivet]

Ya don’t need to be a dick, man.

[void plaza]

what about the + power on multi mele kill + power cycler?

[rigid wasp]

Forgot to add this

[hard goblet]

You can hear them via a number of audio cues including them laughing, saying "corralling victim" or "I'll drag you down to earth" or something like that.

You can also hear their net gun charging/loading.

[proper smelt]

"one for my collection"

[livid lagoon]

im trying to do vantage point 3 and im 5/7 but did not mark them down but looking on redit says there can be a way to see what ones i still have left to do in penance mission section but im looking and cant find where it tells me, any idea's :3

[brittle nest]

Hey what does chainaxe special do?

[livid lagoon]

revs just like the chainsword

[red quartz]

might be good?

[livid lagoon]

so no way to see what heresy ones i need to finish to complete vantage point 3?

[viral sail]

If you're still leveling your zealot yeah, great crit bonuses, no good at higher levels though

[red quartz]

should i get it for the perks?

[viral sail]

On malice and below it's good ye

[tired coyote]

So it Looks like Fat Shark is going to work on their cosmetics shop instead of fixing the AMD Pixel Problems that we have constantly had since before launch, typical fat shark, what are they going to do next? i know they will prob add more bad cosmetics and charge more for buying them... sigh .... are they ever going to fix AMD?

[livid lagoon]

im trying to do vantage point 3 and im 5/7 but did not mark them down but looking on redit says there can be a way to see what ones i still have left to do in penance mission section but im looking and cant find where it tells me, any idea's :3

[hard goblet]

If you've already done every type of mission at least once, there won't be an easy way to tell.

It only works the first time around.

The Missions section of the Penance menu keeps track of how many times you've completed each type of mission.

But it doesn't distinguish by difficulty.

So if you did them all on Malice before, you won't be able to see which ones you're missing for Heresy.

[livid lagoon]

hmm ok guess i just gotta go through them all then 1 at a time

[slow fog]

Now we can finally play the game .gif

[graceful halo]

Not sure if I should post it here. Anyway, I can never merge at the end of a game with another player I randomly joined, I always got an error "not running the same version". Yes I have the last available update I could get. Yes I can join my friend. But never random player. Is it only me ?

[junior berry]

i get the same, though ive only tried like twice

[drowsy python]

I'm having this issue where I sold my company to China and now they're using the data that they harvested from my clients to use it against me and my relatives. How could I have been so negligent, uh oh

[slender pasture]

pretty sure its a known issue rn sadly
devs know it exist and working to fix it but unfortunately cant use that function rn

[rigid wasp]

To be fair, the people who are capable of fixing the issues on the AMD are almost certainly not the same ones as the devs who'd be touching the cosmetics shop. Rendering is pretty niche.

[hard goblet]

It's a known bug.

[graceful halo]

hm, "known bug", or just another feature not included in this unfinished game

[quaint gyro]

can zealots have a chainaxe?

or only veterans?

[spark pier]

is there an option to turn on corpse physics on game pass ver?

[topaz lark]

both

[tepid skiff]

yes, and it's glorious, if a tad underperforming.

[rigid wasp]

How do u turn of camera shake in game?

Its shaking so much playing zealot with thunder hammer and its making me nauseous

[slender pasture]

Theres a setting for it in the interface tab iirc

[rigid wasp]

Is it camera away?

[slender pasture]

Ye Settings > Interface > Accessibility

Ye

[rigid wasp]

All right thanks

[past shale]

@rigid wasp also turn off lens effects, there are 2 settings, those settings are the shitty : Film grain and chromatic aberration, turn those 2 off and enjoy clear game, do not confuse this option with lens flare that is different and bellow those 2 options and i recommend that on

[rigid wasp]

Cheers

[quaint gyro]

at what level?

[tepid skiff]

about 10-15, not sure exactly.

[crisp widget]

Are you able to do the 100% accuracy for veteran by using a shotgun?

[rich smelt]

Which mission types are the best for fast leveling? Boss and then which one?

[topaz lark]

I believe every mission has a wait-it-out event in the middle

so the speed is determined how fast you can run and complete the end event

[steel barn]

How randomized are getting the items upon mission completion?

[topaz lark]

very

seems to scale with difficulty, but no hard numbers afaik

[steel barn]

sorry, I meant whats the percentage or chance of even getting an item after completion

[topaz lark]

tldr - nobody knows

[steel barn]

darn

[topaz lark]

All I have is hearsay

I get them quite frequently on Malice+

some apparently have run 30 missions without one

[steel barn]

yea, I have gotten quiet a lot of Leg Curious

[topaz lark]

I know that in common parlance orange=legendary, but in -tide games those are Exotic, or just orange

essentially, run of the mill geat with all the possible bonuses

we havent seen actually top-tier items yet

[formal glacier]

Anyone else having issues with frame rate drop lately? I don't run the best rig but I more than meet system requirements and everything was buttery smooth until that 7gb update I had yesterday. It reset my bindings and my settings. Now the game loses frames but more importantly there is serious input lag which makes hitting stuff with my staff more difficult.

Anyone else having issues since the new patch?

[rugged relic]

how do i do the warp battery penance

[warm herald]

Cast Brain burst constantly. Every opportunity you get. Be very aware of the tick down on the charges buff, and don't let it run out for 5 continuous mins.

[nova fractal]

^ It also helps a little to have the Psychic Communion feat activated (3rd column, 1 first feat). The one that gives you a 4% chance of gaining a warp charge whenever you or a teammate in coherency kill an enemy. Also the Kinetic Flayer feat too if you're in a situation where you can't exactly brain burst.

[unreal locust]

In VT its the L1 button, an DT its the R1 botton. The opposite shoulder button is tag in both cases.

[vast bear]

Any way to get rid of Data Interrogator lag?

[signal kite]

do I only get 3 rerolls per week for contracts?

[trail orchid]

looking for damnation team, anyone up?

[tepid skiff]

you'd likely have more success at lfg channels.

[trail orchid]

ty

[signal kite]

is there a way to only do smelter?
I cant reroll out of it nor find the mission with it

[tepid skiff]

maybe it's not on the board currently, but it will come up soon enough.

if it's not on the board, there's no way to run it at the moment. only wait.

[signal kite]

i wish we could reroll 3 times a day and not 3 times a week...

[tepid skiff]

yeah, it's one of dozens of highly questionable decisions they've made.

[signal kite]

or at least when you reroll you dont get the quest you rolled out of
I rerolled out of this originally, got 5 grimoire/script
rolled out of it, got smelter back

[tepid skiff]

but 5 grim is one of the easiest?

[restive tulip]

Does anyone duck to dodge sniper shots? I did it once on pure reflex and I haven’t tried to replicate it yet

[sleek delta]

stupid @ss game why it keeps on crashingggggggg!!! after the updateeee!!! the game won't loadddddddd reeeeeeeee!!! 😆

I mean the game loads after 2 sec it crashes 🤣

[signal kite]

exept when no one wants to do it

[real helm]

What is max % on max health curio? 20? 🤔

[patent sapphire]

i have never seen toughness damage reduction on a curio perk

seen basically all of the others though

[rigid wasp]

What's the most efficient way to craft/upgrade weapons?, should i find 400+ ratings weapon then upgrade it? is it better to upgrade blue or green tier weapon?. I dont really know much about it. I wanna get end game equipment now that my Vet is lvl 30

[topaz lark]

first, do you know what "base rating" is?

[rigid wasp]

it should be the rating on the middle yeah?

[patent sapphire]

most of the crafting system isn’t in the game yet but you should look at the base rating of an item and its stat bars to tell if it will be worth saving to improve in the future, 370+ is a definite keep for sure and an instant buy for me if it’s in the regular coin shop, 350+ is a keep if it had a good stat distribution, lower than that I only look at for saving blessings to rip off when the crafting system is implemented

[topaz lark]

its the rating of the stat bars on the weapon

current max seems to be 380

and each bar is capped at 80% atm

so your goal is to find a weapon with 80% in stats you care about

quality only affects the number of perks/blessings it has

[rigid wasp]

wdym 80%? is it stated in the weapon info?

[topaz lark]

you can easily get a grey 380 weapon

this

these are the stat bars

they currently cant go above 80%

so 80% is best you can get

[rigid wasp]

i see

[topaz lark]

the overall rating is essentially useless

as you can always upgrade rarity

and in future swap/reroll perks/blessings

[rigid wasp]

so prioritise base ratings then perks/blessing?

[topaz lark]

imo, yes

[rigid wasp]

i see

[topaz lark]

even more specifically, prioritize useful stats

[rigid wasp]

i havent used any of my mats yet

[topaz lark]

dont bother yet

[patent sapphire]

at this point using them to get a blessing/perk is essentially just gambling

[topaz lark]

I usually bump my stuff to green/blue just because

but I have thousands of mats

[patent sapphire]

sometimes it works out but if you have a blue from the shop with solid stats you’re unlikely to get that much more value out of it

[topaz lark]

yeah, some blessings are amazing, but most are trash

[rigid wasp]

wdym?

[glad radish]

Imagine having 90% toughness damage reduction...

But yeah haven't seen it as well...

Also afaik your Total reduction is capped at 80%, because if not I could very easily cheese almost every content on Zealot since I could get:

90% from curios (3*30%)
5% Zealot Aura
75% Faith Restored
15% Benediction

For a whopping total of 185% Tougness damage reduction.

So either some stuff is Multiplicative instead of additive or there is indeed a cap in place, as even with as much as 100% reduction which is 1x 20% for a zealot; you'd be essentially only taking Chip Damage.

So my guess is its just really rare, considering how broken 75% is on zealot, who has the lowest toughness pool out of the bunch...

[patent sapphire]

you can spend 150 diamantine to go from blue to purple and get a +damage against pox walkers

or something equally useless

[rigid wasp]

ahh

so at best just get it to blue to not waste mats then?

[patent sapphire]

if you want to be efficient

sometimes it’s fun to gamble lol

i would say it’s not a huge waste to take a good grey up to blue because that only costs a handful of plasteel and 50 diamantine

but higher than that imo not usually worth it unless you like gambling

[rigid wasp]

okay okay

is there anything else i need to know?

ill try to soak up all of what u guys said

[patent sapphire]

you can read the patch notes from the beta to get a sense of what crafting is going to look like

basically my philosophy is this, the game is completable at all difficulties with blues from the shop so i’m probably not going to regret saving mats for when the crafting system is fully fleshed out

i do gamble sometimes just for fun though

[rigid wasp]

yeah i kind get the gist with crafting system not fully implemented

all right thanks for the advice

[topaz lark]

its barely even here atm

main concern is if they will go through with escalating cost on rerolls

so prepare your pitchforks just in case

[rigid wasp]

all righty, i just wanna get my vet have nicer stuff haha and ill be happy

[topaz lark]

then just fish for 80% damage

[rigid wasp]

okie, hopefully ill get luck on the rotation in a few mins hah

also the 80% damage applies to all weapons right?

[topaz lark]

well, more damage = better

after that you can go for other stats

[rigid wasp]

all right, cheers

[remote solar]

Depending on the weapon and its intended use, some stats are more important than damage

Like cleave and cleave damage for horde clearing melee weapons

[shadow sorrel]

Does the store only give you items up to a certain gear score? I'm very rarely seeing anything over 400

[steel barn]

Curious question regarding resources and picking then up Ingame

How much is each plasteel worth depending on their model and diamantine

[patent sapphire]

small diamantine is 10, large i think is 25

not sure about plasteel

[sour depot]

please describe easily. after 2 weeks of checking shop with lvl30 max i saw was 375 😰

[topaz lark]

I got sidetracked after that sentence, I meant to say "get a grey weapon that is better than an orange one"

best I personally got was 378

[patent sapphire]

took screenshot before launch so no numbers but this is a 380 base

[night tulip]

What does this mean

[gusty silo]

Mission have quaranted reward

[night tulip]

weird because i just did one and it didnt reward me anything

[orchid totem]

Does anyone want to do the sharpshooter penances together?

[unborn pilot]

you can check in the psykanium to make sure, but i believe it's the medium armored sections. scab gunners for example. or the steel helmet of the random melee dregs. ect

[onyx schooner]

yeah i just looked into a site that has all the stats in it, good to know i can check on the psykanium too, thanks

[pine pond]

is there a channel on this discord for people looking to squad up

[rustic harbor]

It's a part of the hologram behind the mission

[topaz lark]

its literally nothing

missions have random pseudo-ui around them

[ocean raft]

Hey guys i have a problem i finnaly got my first lvl 30 character but when i go to the crafting secrtion it still says coming soon on the other option what does it mean?

[topaz lark]

the game is unfinished and the crafting is not yet implemented

[ocean raft]

But wasn't the game released officialy? the beta ended on November 30th? am i missing something?

[topaz lark]

you are missing this developer's history of rushed releases

I dont blame you though, not everyone digs deep into developers

[ocean raft]

its industry standard nowdays what a shame the game is acctually fun and i had no complaints until now

[topaz lark]

only thing we currently know is that there is gonna be a statement about something this week

that something better be a roadmap of fixes, but Im skeptical

[ocean raft]

Welp at least thats more than certain companies thank you m8 have a nice day

[topaz lark]

as a veteran of their other games I have quite a few complaints besides this, but then to each their own

[void orbit]

On Sharpshooters Deadeye, what does the game mean by "A weapons secondary action"?

[topaz lark]

right mouse button

[void orbit]

Oh, so just aiming?

[wide zodiac]

Anybody got the same bug/glitch I do on this message? already tried everything from this search https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=darktide+launcher+won't+open so I don't really know what else to do, it's darktide imperial edition (the launcher can't be open, been with this issue since the moment I bought the game)

[topaz lark]

not all weapons aim on right click

it also lies to you

it consumes stamina per second AND per shot

[void orbit]

Bruh

[topaz lark]

so your precious recon las will empty it in a second

[tall lantern]

Question: My max base rating for weapon is around 377 for both melee and ranged curio around 80 yet in the shop i find only weapons around 320 or even lower, even Melk as low weapon rating, am i missing something or just the shop that is shit ??

[void orbit]

So what gun is best for the mission if so?

I mean penance

[feral gust]

There's a MASSIVE skills jump each level.
I feel like a clown responsible for TeamKills.
But when another person joins - I feel like they are the clowns.

[topaz lark]

shop is just shit

[topaz lark]

which one

[void orbit]

Deadeye?

[topaz lark]

wait a second, you are talking about penance and or feat?

[void orbit]

Feat, apologies.

No

Penance.

Fuck I' mstupid.

[topaz lark]

[void orbit]

I'm not crazy, just sleep deprived.

[topaz lark]

anyway, the feat/talent works as described

if you mean the achiv that requires 100% accuracy then its cancer regardless

only way to do is to spend full mission with melee

[void orbit]

Nono not that one, the one that requires you to kill 5 people with weak spots upon using your volley fire.

[topaz lark]

and then shoot at the end horde

[tall lantern]

for the veteran penance where u need to kill 5 thing with headshot u need lv30 and the second perk so u highlight even the shooty boys

then go in any map at lv4 and u find plenty

[topaz lark]

not really, I've done it on something like lvl15

just aim faster

and pretty much any accurate weapon will do

but yes, lvl30 feat helps a lot

[void orbit]

Any weapon you'd recommend to not accidentally mess up and miss 1 bullet?

[topaz lark]

ive not done it myself so I can only theorize

for the above method anything with low ammo is best

[tall lantern]

shotgun or revolver

[topaz lark]

just have your team hold the horde and shoot

make sure to not kill any elites as they replenish ammo

once you are dry just sprint for the valkyrie and pray

I might be able to get a team going to test other cheese methods

[keen wedge]

i hear the plasma gun is great for this

bolter shells exploding also count if the explosion staggers someone

[tired crown]

Shotgun alt fire loads a shot that shoots in a wide horizontal spread so it's really easy to hit something

[tired crown]

Ohh that's a good point

[void orbit]

Okay okay...

I'll take note of this.

Mind if I ask if anyone has any tips on the "Don't get hit by melee once" penance besides just being careful?

OR is it just that simple?

[tired crown]

Do a low intensity mission, take camouflage, stay still a lot

Always make sure teammates are between you and the horde, and check your back constantly

[void orbit]

Ooh okay. Any specific items?

[feral gust]

Does anyone complete lvl5?
im finding lvl4 difficult enough already.

[tired crown]

Camouflage is incredible, I've had entire hordes sweep around me like a river around a stone to go for teammates while I hack at them

[tired crown]

Not particularly, you'll need to be good at dodging and blocking the odd enemies that come up behind you

[tired crown]

Yeah, it's not too bad especially with a premade team and some coordination via voice

I had a lot of trouble with 4s when I first started them, having decent teammates is huge

[topaz lark]

its all just a matter of skill

[feral gust]

new joiners really make me angry (not at them - but cos we get no warning a BOT is swapped out)
the next thing we see is we're neck deep in horde
I am angry at them - but I remember my first few days at the level... and I end up wiping the team
(utter humiliation)

[topaz lark]

if I could do all cata maps in VT2, so can you

[tired crown]

A friend and I joined a level 4 last night in the middle of a horde and a bunch of crushers, they'd have wiped* if we didn't.

Wrong channel chief

[night tulip]

shit

my bad boys

[tired crown]

All good ^ ^

[tired crown]

And we've all been there! No reason to feel bad about it, learning is a big part of it all. Can't get better without pushing yourself, you know?

[marsh heath]

hey guys i need a few people to help me out with a penance i cant do

its the heresy shooter one for vet

[feral gust]

yup .. our lessons are paid by our teammates: 😅

[tired crown]

Check out the LFG-VOX channels.

[marsh heath]

pk thx

[tired crown]

Tons of people doing penance runs there.

[marsh heath]

see loads of lfg channels

which one do i look for?

[marsh heath]

ok nvm i got it thx

really should just put europe/usa/etc lol

[tired crown]

Yeah it's not super clear

[marsh heath]

how do i put up an invite for a channel?

[marsh heath]

my guy?

[tired crown]

Lemme see

[void orbit]

How the heck do I do long bomb, the fuse is so long everytime.

Do I have to literally cross-map it?

[tired crown]

Join a voice channel, then right click on the channel name and copy link.

[marsh heath]

thx brohemian

[tired crown]

It's long range but if you throw it at a 45° angle it explodes just above head level. Test it in the Psykhanium a few times and you'll see what I mean

[void orbit]

Thanks for the tip!

[tired crown]

You can also hold right mouse button and throw it underhand to get significantly less range though I've never tried that, I got it with the 45° angle method.

[topaz lark]

remember the water purging mission?
theres an elevator waiting event there
wait until the horde shows up on the other side of the bridge and throw in such a way that the green trajectory line doesn touch the ground
after a few tries you'll get it

[topaz vault]

anyone else have seriously reduced performance after the gamepass patch?

[cloud jasper]

does this mean anything beside missions?

[topaz lark]

no

[topaz lark]

apparently many people

[topaz vault]

😦

welp

[onyx schooner]

does the flesh wound penance on fail not work anymore?

did they patch that out?

[patent saddle]

anyone know any work around for when i dont get any progress on my weekly quest doing missions? currently done 7 missions flawless wins and bunch of scriptures and monster kills and no progress. after every mission i get kills:0 deaths:0 but i still get the XP

[quick charm]

anyone know exactly how the "shred"-blessing works? I'm a little confused since it doesn't list a duration

[simple kite]

yes, they fixed that and changed the penance to 20 minutes

it's perfectly doable normally now

[simple kite]

really not sure what causes the "zero kills" bug at the end of a mission, but that is disconnected from the "didn't get weekly credit" bug

you can have one happen without the other

unfortunately don't know what causes the "didn't get weekly credit" bug either, and not for lack of testing. It may be a server-side issue per my best guess, that they hopefully fix with an expected patch in the coming days. Fingers crossed

[patent saddle]

alright. its abit annyoing since i want to do it on several different chars + if a weapon shows up in the shop and i dont have the credits because i cant do the missions its RIP.

[onyx schooner]

Which mission should i try this on now? assassination?

[brave rose]

So I have task to do secondary objs in an area and the task got no progression when i did it

[simple kite]

the absolute fastest ones are the "scanner" maps if your team is hypercompetent about it. But I'd say that the fastest and easiest map is Relay Station. Get a Relay Station with Low Intensity and blitz your way through it. There's only one meaningful horde-engagement zone that can be rushed with a good energy cell carrier, and the last area has trickled mobs and no long "hold your ground" delays

I completed one of those last night in just over 20 minutes, and we scoured the map for crafting mats while doing it, so if you have a team that actually commits to running it fast you should easily meet the time metric

[simple kite]

did you get 3/3 Scripts or 2/2 Grims? You need to finish the whole secondary objective, not just part of it

beyond that, as noted higher up, there's an intermittent bug that results in no weekly progression after a mission concludes, with no known trigger

beyond that, don't ever do "X secondaries on Y map" weeklies. You should preemptively roll those ones first at all costs. They're absolute bullshit.

[brave rose]

we had 2 of 2 and it still didnt count

and its the one where you have to do a certain mission

[simple kite]

then you're in the second category of "victim of a known bug without any known trigger"

[brave rose]

[simple kite]

so now you should redirect your attention to "preemptively roll those ones at all costs"

[brave rose]

i re rolled 5 times and got the same thing with different places.

[simple kite]

you've only rerolled 3 times because 3 is the max

but I get your point

and my condolences for having hit that type of mission three times in a row

[brave rose]

Welp, that's just my luck

[azure bane]

Anyone know if the penance "Flawless Execution" (10/15 missions without being downed) progress carries over on different characters? Or do I need to do all the missions on one (1) character?
Have already progressed it a bit, so can't check this easily.

[past shale]

After the crafting is implemented, will we be able to take out blessing of any weapon and apply it to other just just specific, for example axe to axe, gun to gun etc?

[bleak maple]

I have noticed that if u hard carry a lobby emperor gives you a legendary weapon , any1 experienced the same?

[azure bane]

"Emperor's gifts" are completely random. At least, no evidence to suggest otherwise.

[sleek ice]

is it just me or is every match nothing but vets and preachers?

[serene latch]

yes, emperors gift

[lilac trail]

What are the ideal circumstances/Best weapons to complete the There is Nothing But The Abyss penance?

(The heal 75% of your health penance as Preacher)

[red jacinth]

hey, with penances, how can I tell which mission types I've done for Praise the God Emperor! ?

I need one more but dont know which type

[boreal python]

Hello everyone, is there some kind strangers willing to help me get the 'On overwatch' penance?

[tired crown]

My poor ogryn friend had to carry myself (as psyker) and two other psykers in heresy last night. It was rough.

[azure bane]

Remove all +health Curios.

[tired crown]

Check out the VOX-LFG channel, there are always people there looking for penance groups.

[boreal python]

Thanks 🙂

[tired crown]

Afaik there is no way to check right now, have to write them down as you go. 38,000 years in the future and we have to use post it notes ^ ^

[red jacinth]

lmao

I have no idea which I've done

I guess I'll just have to play rando games until I get it

[tired crown]

I had the same issue on my veteran, was at 6/7 for heresy games and it was the last step for my rebreather helmet. Got frustrated and did one damnation mission on my psyker, got the steam achiev for doing every map on heresy+ but not the penance because it wasn't on veteran!

[proper smelt]

How do you get the long bomng achievement

for veteran

is there some sort of trick

[tired crown]

Go into the Psykhanium and throw grenades at a 45° angle to test and see how they explode at head level

After a few throws you'll see just the right distance for popping heads no problem.

[tepid skiff]

much easier. get mouse really high up, and throw along the bridge with no delay.

nade has a maximum elevation which it'll use automatically when aim is higher.

[tepid skiff]

usually it's espionage or investigation.

missing that is.

[mystic wyvern]

damn.

[rigid wasp]

On the ammo raid mission at the very end I just tossed one across from the extraction point to where new enemies were coming from

[ocean flower]

Thunder hammer and an enemy boss/ogryn

[simple kite]

but... but you have three psykers

your CC should have been through the roof

was everyone running a void staff or some nonsense?

two surges+purgatus should have obliterated any Heresy map unless the psykers all had no wound curios and kept getting one-shot by snipers or some such

[vernal fossil]

so what does rating actually effect? does a weapon with the max rating of 530 that has lower modifiers than, lets say, a 489 rated weapon with higher modifiers have any advantage?

[simple kite]

baseline stats+perk values+blessing values

the baseline stats are what affects the baseline damage. Any perks and/or blessings might augment some given portion of a weapon's damage, might not, who knows

380 is the max for baseline stats, distributed across five stat metrics with an 80% individual cap on any given stat

[vernal fossil]

ah so its the culmation. so a 530 rated weapon sohould always be stronger than a lower rated weapon?

[simple kite]

25 is the max value for any specific perk, and 55 is the max value for any specific blessing

[simple kite]

Not at all, if the blessings are garbo

[flint stone]

So I installed the game and played the beta but theres still missing content, Is that the full version of the game just a live service waste of time for now?
Or do i need to uninstall and reinstall fully to get the full game content like craftings not there, no way to actaully select what map / difficulty / moddifires / enemy types ... Alot feels missing in general or just bad, am i missing something?

[tired crown]

One had trauma staff, the other two had purgation staff. And one of them was drunk, lol. Hordes were no problem!

[tepid skiff]

it's just early access for now. come back in half a year.

[simple kite]

let's say, for instance, that you have two Purgatus Flamers (since I mentioned them earlier up). One has double crit stat perks and the Blaze Away and Quickflame blessings at max value, with a low burn stat and max damage stat

the other has two middling rolls on "damage against X enemy" with Inspiring Barrage and Showstopper, low damage, high burn stat

it's 40 points lower than the first

it's still much better because the crit perks don't affect flamers, damage is a dump stat compared to burn, those two blessings are bad, and the two blessings and perks on the second "lower stat weapon" all amount to a weapon that does substantially more damage

[simple kite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-know-what-the-problem-is-here-harley-rider-south-park-s13e12-the-f-word-gif-22862822

[vernal fossil]

ah ok so im looking at this wrong, I should be looking at this like: modifiers maxed at 80%, perks maxed out at their value, and blessings dependent on what I want for my "ideal weapon"

[tired crown]

The other problem was it was the outdoor train yard mission, we had two DH spawns that drunkie aggrod. The only way we could get to ranged enemies was by my ogryn staying behind me as I pushed forward using deflection.

Same strategy I've used on damnation to great effect but tedious when you get those missions with huge packs of shooters.

[simple kite]

correct

except you can't ever get all of them maxed at 80

there aren't enough points to distribute

so you ideally want a weapon with max stats on the values that are most important to it, and dump stats in the least important values

[vernal fossil]

oh. what is the point distribution pool amount then?

[simple kite]

again, such as a Flamer with high burn and low damage dump stat

[simple kite]

380

[vernal fossil]

ohhh i get it

[simple kite]

enough for four of the five to be maxed at 80 if the last is at 40

[tired crown]

Thats the reason it's important to find a grey item that has a high base roll, none of its allocated points are spent on traits or blessings. You could in theory find good green or blue items and just check the stat amounts, it does specify that to the right of the item's stats.

[simple kite]

somehow, my original joke of "three void staffs" would actually be a better scenario than what you were dealing with

[vernal fossil]

so get the 4 modifiers you want maxed out

[tired crown]

Three void staffs would have been so, so much better.

[simple kite]

yeah, now that it's all visible, you simply check the values on all shop items. I've found 370+ gray items, green items, and blue items

[slow fog]

TFW no hotfix for steam for two days now

[simple kite]

or three. Or all five at reasonably high values.

[tired crown]

Listen to @simple kite , they know their stuff.

[slow fog]

Games running good for me now though atleast

[simple kite]

https://tenor.com/view/schults-knows-nothing-gif-18346714

[vernal fossil]

so basically just hit level thirty before buying and upgrading weapons for their modifiers

the vermintide 2 meta strikes again

[simple kite]

no

gotta buy as you go along

the loot system is watermarked

[vernal fossil]

huh?

[simple kite]

you only get point values within a certain band of the highest-stat weapon owned on your character

if your highest weapon ever has a base stat total of 250, you can't get 380 weapons. It'll give you something like 310 max or whatever, don't know the precise cutoff

[crisp widget]

Higher level items in inventory means higher level items in shop

[simple kite]

but you gotta get 200s before you can reliably get 250s to get 300s to get 350s to get 380s

but generally, yes, getting to 30 is a good heuristic for "when to start min-maxing weapons"

[vernal fossil]

oh so you have to upgrade weapons to unlock higher ratings?

[crisp widget]

I am waiting for item crafting to be fully implamented myself before I min-max

No just buy items that is higher item level in the shop, no need to upgrade until 30

[vernal fossil]

yeah thats what i was saying but I thought sunshine was saying no?

[thick cedar]

what do worker threads do in the game settings

[crisp widget]

Well you want to start getting weapons at 400 item rating ish before then, so you will start getting some good stat rolls

[thick cedar]

do i increase or decrease the amount for better performance

[simple kite]

you buy new weapons to unlock higher ratings

I don't believe artificial point increases from blessings affect the watermarking system

[simple kite]

decrease for better performance, ironically enough

typically 4 or 5

[thick cedar]

i see

[tepid skiff]

you think it's worth it to gradually upgrade even at 30? like wear 350+ stuff to get more 350+ stuff in the shop.

because presently my shop is stocked with utter shite, around 320 usually.

i have a couple of 370 items, but not worn.

[crisp widget]

You should be fine just buying, i got up to 380-410 without trying when i was just picking up weapons here and there while leveling, no need to waste precious upgrade mats you will need them when rerolling arrives

[spark pier]

Is there a setting i can turn on to make ragdolls interactable?

[simple kite]

you don't need to wear it

and again, 370 is the base stats

the item that appears in the top right of the five modifiers

[tepid skiff]

of course, i'm only talking base.

[simple kite]

okay. Then you should have fully unlocked every point value by now, and now it's just a matter of odds

350ish is the median "endgame stat roll". Anything above that is progressively rarer up to 380

[tepid skiff]

it's just that finding good stuff is so rare. i'm really pissed about this system.

[simple kite]

so if you've got a 350 base stat weapon, you're now able to get any weapon at 380, but it's not going to be something you find every hour

[simple kite]

350 is a good item

what you mean to say is "finding godmode bases is rare"

[tepid skiff]

oh yeah, my two main weapons are at 320, with very high main bars and one dump. so 350 is even better, naturally.

[simple kite]

if you think you need a 380 base item in any capacity at all, you should readjust your perspective. 380 is extreme sweatlord min-maxing territory. Certainly the territory that folks on discords in theorycrafting channels are interested in, but far from necessary

[tepid skiff]

but i am a discord sweatlord %(.

until craft rolls out it's all academical anyway.

[rustic dagger]

thoughts?

current kit

[tired crown]

I run damnation with blues!

[tired crown]

That all looks pretty damn good! How does your cleaver feel without toughness on multiple hit?

[rustic dagger]

it's pretty good. I don't see big dips in toughness that often

[tawdry flare]

What’s the best melee and gun type for a beginner

[tired crown]

What class are you playing?

[tawdry flare]

Shooter

[tired crown]

Gotta be nice. I know a lot of people stick with toughness as a necessity but if you can play without it I'd say you're doing better.

[tawdry flare]

I know to look out for crit chance or something

[vernal fossil]

ok cool thats what i was doing. I meant save all your upgrade ingredients until you hit level 30

[tired crown]

For veteran the Kantrael MG XII is a good, slower firing lasgun that pops enemy shooters like mad. Power sword is pretty much best in slot, though all of the melee weapons can be really good. I love the chain sword

Bolter is a good option if you're able to keep it loaded and prepared for when you need it, it's very slow to reload and swap to from your melee so it's something you have to give thought to.

[simple kite]

correct

[tawdry flare]

Thanks I’ll look out for that one

And in terms of melee what’s a good fast swinging one

[tired crown]

@tawdry flare if you open your inventory, select your weapon, and press V it'll give you a detailed breakdown of what every stat means. The best weapon for you may be different than what is best for me, so exploring them and seeing what stats matter is a big part of it.

Catachan sword is fast and has some good cleave, axes are good for single target, same with chain weapons. I don't personally like the chain axe but I also haven't found a good one.

[rustic dagger]

ive been dropping health instead

[tawdry flare]

Oh wow inspect is really useful. Thanks!

[rustic dagger]

i play backline support as ogryn mostly

[tired crown]

Sure thing!

[tired crown]

You're a dream teammate then, in my opinion.

[rustic dagger]

for sure i am, was in v1 and v2 lol

im not sweaty in darktide though

[tired crown]

Ogryns can do so much, it's not all horde smashing.

[rustic dagger]

ended up pumping like 400 hrs into v2

[tired crown]

God.. I'm at 162 hours in darktide already.

Send help.

[rustic dagger]

lmao gross

[sinful prairie]

Sorry, this is the gameplay help channel, not the stop playing help channel

[rustic dagger]

how did you do this with the amt of content in the game?

i can hardly motivate myself to play any ogryn at all now that i'm 30

[tired crown]

I like the gameplay a lot, very visceral.

[rustic dagger]

yeah that's fair enough

[sinful prairie]

I've gotten 50 hours so far, and don't have trouble imagining another 50 more at least

[rustic dagger]

for me chaos wastes was a big multiplier

hope to see something similar eventually here

i'm mostly emigrating to dwarf fortress

[tired crown]

I agree, I'd love to see something like that.

[simple kite]

I'm at about 150, though I'm sure a decent bit of it was afking in the Mourningstar between games

[tired crown]

It's such a good looking game, the combat is smooth and intense. I'm thrilled to have a closer look at regular 40k life for folk in the hive cities.

There are a lot of things to appreciate, though I also have my fair share of complaints. I just try not to focus on them, plenty of people doing that already.

[agile nexus]

Anybody know what version of the lasgun is this? Light, medium or heavy?

[rustic dagger]

honestly like V2 at launch, it's "Warhammer Combat Simulator" for me

that's worth about 30 bucks for me

I went into it with eyes open and knowing Fatshark as a company

[simple kite]

same. The stuff that's currently in the game is moreeeee than worth 40 dollars to me

I'd pay 400 for it, for the amount of time I'm getting out of it in enjoyment

though I'm a regular "games don't cost enough and this is why MTXes exist" adherent

[hard goblet]

Tencent loves you.

[simple kite]

if I can get an hour of personal enjoyment out of a product for less than 3 dollars, that's a fantastic deal imo

[patent sapphire]

gameplay is fun, im never gonna buy shit from the shop, if the game stops being fun i’ll stop playing

[simple kite]

mayhaps. I have far less of an aversion to MTX stuff because I've got more than enough money and realize that without MTXes many players wouldn't be able to afford the games they enjoy

[patent sapphire]

i don’t need this to be a forever game

[simple kite]

not that I'm planning on buying anything atm from this shop. The cosmetics are blah

the quest ones look cooler

[rustic dagger]

you'd pay 400 bucks for this game?

[simple kite]

I'd pay 400 for most games

games don't cost enough money

[rustic dagger]

bizarre

[simple kite]

literally Super Mario cost 150% as much as this game back in 1990

[rustic dagger]

I'm not judging you, I mean it's your money

I wish I made enough to justify that viewpoint haha

[heavy shuttle]

I wish I was irresponsible enough to justify that viewpoint.

[simple kite]

gaming and computing capacity has drastically accelerated in the past several decades, but despite dramatically larger operational costs and development necessities, the actual console games themselves have remained at rigid 40-60 price points since the early nintendo consoles

and as time has gone along, because of gamers' collective position that games "need to cost that much", developers have had to explore alternative methods of actually running their businesses (setting aside indy devs who have made single, simple games as passion projects, e.g., Minecraft)

[rustic dagger]

I mean I have to state honestly I don't give a toss about game developers' products being undervalued. I wouldn't pay 400$ for any video game that I can personally imagine

[simple kite]

these methods have almost invariably been "sequel spam for guaranteed consumer bases," "exclusive platforming deals so we can be subsidized by the console makers," and "mtx shops"

sometimes all three

[simple kite]

and I don't expect you to. You're a standard consumer in the video game market.

and standard consumers have held to an inflexible fixed point of gaming prices

and devs have worked around this with stuff like cash shops, which in my mind work just fine

the people who can't or won't afford the "actual price of the game" get to either play it free or for nominal costs, and simultaneously people with disposable income (or less fortunately, people with addictive personalities and poor financial skills) subsidize the game by paying disproportionately larger amounts for the same baseline with some bells and whistles

[rustic dagger]

I don't really get what you're on about but go after it playa

[simple kite]

what's confusing about it?

"games cost more to make and are much more powerful, and should therefore cost more to sell, but people won't spend that much, so in order to make a profit developers have largely become reliant on attracting 'whales' or garnering platform deals"

[rustic dagger]

it's kind of confusing that you wrote this whole spiel to justify spending 400 bucks on a video game which is a number I was fairly confident you just pulled from thin air and probably wouldn't actually pay
I say that because I don't believe a reasonable human being would pay 400$ for Darktide

but like I said you get it bud, it's your life

[simple kite]

I simply multiplied it by 10

[rustic dagger]

I give it an ol' 👌

[simple kite]

and yeah, it was a tangent

I've been a bit riled up recently by people bitching about the prEdATorY CasH ShoP

sorry for going off the rails there

also, I appreciate the Lazar Wolf pfp, apropos of nothing

[stark stream]

Anyone know what does "Combat ability Regeneration" do? Is it the special ability from every class or is it weapons special?

[simple kite]

I'm pretty sure it's the special ability

[crimson fable]

Combat ability activated with F

[simple kite]

like, you get it back 1 second faster

[rustic dagger]

it's Lazar Wolfe shooting Lazars

cheers

[stark stream]

because i'm aiming for it.. otherwise i will not pick this curio. Thanks for fast answer

[simple kite]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[stark stream]

I changed the key to Mouse 5, but maybe is the ultimate ability then 😄

I forgot the original keybind..

[crimson fable]

And wow, +3%... That is probably around 300 ms

[simple kite]

here's my own question on curios, that I express full ignorance to:

[rustic dagger]

but suffice to say I'd only pay 400 bucks for a game if it dispensed blowjobs or something

[crimson fable]

Even less that 300 ms

[spring needle]

Is this boltgun any good on veteran? :S

[stark stream]

Only 1 seconds? I had 2 curio with same... so only 2 seconds regen faster? 😮

[simple kite]

^does that regen affect all sources of toughness, or is it just passive regen from coherence?

[simple kite]

That's the math, yes

[simple kite]

it's got rending and high stability. It's automatically useful.

[sour depot]

My guess would be passive only but its just a guess

Becouse there is "regain" "replenish" and "regeneration'

[simple kite]

yeah, no judgment directed to you. I simply view games on a "price per hour plus cost of manufacture" basis. Movies, for instance, typically cost about ~$14 in most U.S. theaters for between 1.5 and 2 hours of enjoyment, so that's $7 bucks per hour. Given the immense overhead of the amount of people working on any given movie and the advances in technology, I'd say it's an eminently fair price, but of course economies of scale help such matters, just like with games. Likewise, if I'm playing a game for X hours, then it's typically "worth" as much as the amount of time I put into it.

[tired crown]

I think this is the big difference, it's not regeneration when you get it back from feats I don't think.

[sour depot]

Yes, that what i meant

[simple kite]

I've already put in 150 hours of gameplay into Darktide in about 2 weeks. Will likely top out at well over a thousand by the end. So if someone told me "you can get 1000 hours of enjoyment from this for 400 bucks" I'd be quite impressed by the cost, and if they said "you can get 1000 for 40" I'd be flabbergasted

[tired crown]

I've wondered about those as well, coherency with all teammates does a lot for survivability.

[simple kite]

but once again, this is a tangent. I need not pontificate anymore.

[rustic dagger]

I'd be more wont to say "wow you got 1000 hours of enjoyment from 40 bucks" than go up on the price

but that's up to you bud

[simple kite]

also, you should add little wolves at the end of the laser beams

[sweet condor]

Should I be upgrading weapons to 'Purple' as I level?

[simple kite]

no

not even once

save your crafting mats for good bases at max level

[rustic dagger]

nah I cannae be bothered

[sweet condor]

Cool. Thought so. As I see the shop scales as you level.

[simple kite]

still a massive boon on a dagger Zealot. first time I've seen a curio with both toughness and toughness regen

[simple kite]

no

it scales as you buy new items

[jaunty sierra]

HELP PLS - Is Kill 750 Scab mission team shared kills or I need to start ksing?

[simple kite]

with better stats than the prior ones

but because that occurs in tandem with leveling gameplay, levels are a useful shorthand for gear, and it's safe to say "you don't need to upgrade anything until you're 30 because that's when you'll start finding the gear that's worth upgrading"

[spring needle]

Thanks!! Gonna keep a hold of it then :)

[simple kite]

team shared

[tired crown]

I get what you're saying but with a cash shop people like you can spend that $400 on the game out of support, I really like that as an overall business model. But saying we as consumers expect too much for our $40 discounts the tens of thousands of other options for entertainment available for the same or less. Current pricing for games makes a lot of sense to me when I think about the larger ecosystem of digital entertainment

[sweet condor]

Grand, I will do that.

[simple kite]

correct

my ultimate point is "cash shops are good for games so long as they don't have any p2w elements"

[tired crown]

Yeah and I agree with that 100%

[simple kite]

the whale model allows for both gaming company profits and subsidized, easily accessible enjoyment to large consumer bases

[tired crown]

There are aspects of this games current cash shop that are scummy, but I won't buy anything from it so it really doesn't affect me.

[plain coral]

Medium. I like the model the most but it's probably the worst out of the 3. VId has higher fire rate and the VIIa has higher damage.

[rustic dagger]

yeah if it's purely cosmetic I cannot care

fuckin put anything in there let people buy it

[tired crown]

We also have some very cool options for cosmetics that come from gameplay, which is a big part of it.

There's the aspect of looking cool just for the sake of it, but we also have a more "showing off" set of equipment, badges, frames, etc

[supple shuttle]

should i replace it?

[tired crown]

Oh absolutely

[simple kite]

100%

fuck that quest

[supple shuttle]

hehe

thought so

[tired crown]

That's a surefire way for that mission to not spawn.

[simple kite]

at all costs, roll off any "secondary X on Y" maps, and then if you still have a reroll available, roll off Grimoires

and deal with whatever else shows up

[supple shuttle]

alright

...

grimoires & scripture

...

[tired crown]

Haha, those suck but aren't nearly as bad

[simple kite]

I tried to complete that weekly a few weeks ago and spent a day and a half of near constant online gameplay actively selecting that type of map

and got 2 out of 6 by the end

[tired crown]

Yeah, it's gross.

[simple kite]

and decided to reroll on a gamble and hope not to hit another secondary x of y

and that's with a map that was actually in the rotation, too

you need to fully complete the objectives. Getting just one scrip/grim won't work

it's big baby back bullshit

[tired crown]

Plus you have to get it with secondary objectives, to boot. A lot of hurdles to jump through for only 210 monies.

[simple kite]

grimoires are gross, but you can find teams for them on lower difficulties and finish them fast enough, especially if it's just +5

[tired crown]

These are the kinds of issues that really make up the majority of complaints I have. Little stuff that frustrates smooth gameplay and progression, more "iron out" problems than anything big.

[junior loom]

grimoires should be discarded on principal

[tired crown]

Lol we can artificially lower their statistics by starting a reject uprising!

[rustic dagger]

for me there is a BIG issue in that there is no "endgame" once 30 other than simply playing because you like it

I'll play because I like it, but it's nice to have some framework

for example chaos wastes in v2

[tired crown]

Yeah, if they're looking for player retention they need to do quite a bit on that front.

I don't necessarily have a problem with one-and-done games, some people enjoy them.

But that's not really what we all expect from fatshark games, you know?

[junior loom]

as long as the bolt gun keeps making people go giblet ill keep playing

[tired crown]

Sweet, sweet red and pink mistifier.

[simple kite]

that wasn't in that game for a long while, tbh

pushing for Damnation clears atm is fairly acceptable endgame behavior for a game that's been out for one week

[rustic dagger]

I mean I don't agree but more power to you

[simple kite]

I'd suspect the percentage of the playerbase actually doing that is vanishingly small

[tired crown]

Sometimes I queue for damnation and get nothing, have to go to heresy and even then it can be nothing.

[simple kite]

I'd be very hopeful/expectant for a Chaos Wastes expy, though

[supple shuttle]

cost me 15k to replace to get this

kept gettng secondary xD

[simple kite]

15k? did they fix the reroll bug?

[tired crown]

Those are all great though, well worth the dockets.

[simple kite]

as of, like, yesterday you couldn't roll more than 3 times

[supple shuttle]

reroll bug?

was free, then 2500, 5000, 7500

[simple kite]

sothe max it could cost is 7.5k

[supple shuttle]

so did 4 rolls

[simple kite]

hmmmmmm interesting. So they did fix it if that reroll worked

[agile nexus]

I see, so if i want the heavy i have to wait for the VII

[plain coral]

yes

[supple shuttle]

Should i save my "upgrade mats" the ones for upgradin weapons for late game

[simple kite]

yes

[burnt olive]

Nope reroll still bugged

[mellow jewel]

does anyone know any tips to make this easier it seems almost impossible for me?

[simple kite]

low intensity map, always position your back against non-door walls, don't move until all mobs in a room are cleared, and get a team that's going to tolerate that

[burnt olive]

You kindly ask your teammates to protect you and sit in a corner every fight, eventually give up when hit by anything most likely

[sour depot]

Try lfg channel

Get people that will help u

[torpid ruin]

Need more gryns

Let the gryns carry

[sour depot]

Lunch?

[hybrid lance]

how does bleed work?

[simple kite]

it's a DoT like burn

refreshes with any new applications, and starts to fall off one stack at a time if no new applications are put on

max damage threshold is mob-based

Crushers, for instance, take only 20 damage per tick at max from bleeds, while Bulwarks take 160 per tick and bleed out verrrry fast

but basically, "attack mob with whatever is proccing bleeds to stack up the bleeds and then refresh them until they hit max"

though in almost all circumstances the targeted mob will be dead before max stacks are reached. Max stacks are mainly a consideration for the Ogryns, armored scabs/dregs, and monstrosities

[bitter summit]

there's only a single damnation map with high intensity that I've failed with randoms 4 times in a row, so I can't play Damnation now because I can't chose what map to play and this is the only one available even through quickplay. Pls change this Fartshark

[simple kite]

notwithstanding that I fundamentally agree with the position of "give people more options for the high difficulty maps," I would also say in my contrarian manner, "Emperor forbid you kick back and run a casual Malice map and pick up some Plasteel"

[past shale]

The Maniacs in Darktide are the enemies that look or sound like maniacs. These enemies are your standard Mutant, Flamer, and Trapper enemy, especially the Dreg versions of these enemies, thanks to their distinct lack of armor profile, compared to Scab equivalents. The result is that players will deal more damage to these enemies if their weapon has more damage to Maniacs.

[bitter summit]

that might not be thematically fitting for this game, perhaps even far too immeasurably complex to add

[trail beacon]

how does quickplay work? i queued for heresy, checked map first to see if there were any endless hordes missions on heresy. there weren't any, but i still got one in quickplay. i thought it only picked from the available missions

[cursive citrus]

heresy is bugged

it says its always endless hordes

[trail beacon]

oh shit, somehow i had forgotten that was a thing

[signal cipher]

Bugged, it's a bug that just seems to keep coming back where it will always give heresy the endless horde if it doesn't have another modifier

It was in the beta they fixed it then it came back, but it isn't a super bad bug tbh, you just gotta be ready for endless horde

[trail beacon]

it's quite difficult to play in solo queue, most people don't seem to know that the spawns will never stop if you dont push onwards

[cursive citrus]

they claim its just a UI bug

but if so, base heresy is hella over-populated with endless hordes even without modifiers

[trail beacon]

yeah, there's no way that's just a UI bug. that would mean heresy is harder than damnation

[signal cipher]

The director ai disagrees, it sees endless horde and doubles it's points then makes you suffer

[simple kite]

unless there's another modifier on it*

[simple kite]

someone insisted that they ran an actual endless horde modifier Heresy map and it was different, and my response is "then you simply got a Double Endless Horde"

[signal cipher]

Anyways for the reason I'm here,
Anyone know if Fat shark has posted a new roadmap since release?

[simple kite]

not a soul alive is going to convince me that horde notifications every minute and double specialist spawns is not indicative of an endless horde modifier

doubt. Stacking stamina isn't really worth it for most weapons, and blocking is something that's interwoven with pushing.

you probably want a wound curio or either toughness/HP based on your class

[trail beacon]

i really hope they take another look at it and haven't just convinced themselves the bug is fixed. kinda ruins heresy difficulty. you need a team that can beat damnation but you get tons of people who are just starting to break into heresy difficulty

[cursive citrus]

if you dont have an ogryn or a flamer, you lose

[simple kite]

I hope so as well

I ran my first "low intensity Heresy" last night and it was startlingly, embarassingly easy

compared to a "normal" Heresy map

like, "nobody even got a wound and we blitzed through the place in just over 20 minutes despite checking every corner for crafting mats" easy, when most of my Heresy pugs are "okay, this is the fourth time we've ressed you, Psyker with Void Staff and two wounds, we're 1/3 of the way through the map and have had 8 horde engagements so far, and I just killed six back to back pox hounds"

[trail beacon]

yeah that sounds about right

i saw someone on reddit say that the low/high intensity modifiers are like -1/+1 to the difficulty level, which seems approximately right to me. different type of difficulty but good enough of an analogy. although i think high intensity is harder than just doing +1 on the difficulty since it kills my wrists lol

[hidden dune]

my friend and i did a few grimoire missions and he loses significantly more health to corruption than i do. he is a psyker and had 30ish% grimoire corruption res on his curios and im an ogryn with no resistance equipped. just a 20% health curio and 1 extra wound curio. does corruption resistance work at the moment? he was missing like 80% of his health to corruption and i had only lost 30ish% it seemed

[sour depot]

U have much more health

[simple kite]

I feel like it's more of a 1.5 modifier. That single low intensity Heresy map was easier than any normal Malice mission I've run.

the fact of the matter to me is that when there are more mobs, 1. there are more points of compounding failure, and 2. resources are expended more quickly

so you run out of ammo faster, and you and your teammates commit more and more unforced errors

[limber tangle]

Pretty sure corruption from grims is flat hp, your friend should get some hp curios

[hidden dune]

so corruption isnt a percentage based health reduction?

[rustic dagger]

not afaik

[orchid dirge]

Anyone know if the cosmetics purchased carry over to other same class characters the same way cosmetics unlocked do?

[limber tangle]

It isn't, it also ticks over time, the longer you hold it, the less hp you will have, and, yes, it can actually kill you, had a guy died purely to grim hp ticks

[cursive citrus]

damnation is too hard to do with pugs, everybody just screws off alone and you all die

too many vets running dumb guns up there

[sour depot]

Sometimes randoms be randoms 🤷‍♂️

[junior quail]

what do you consider dumb guns?

[cursive citrus]

accatrans and plasma are the ones ive seen most, either cant do shit against specials or have too little ammo to help with mass ranged enemy spam that shows up and ive seen em blow themselves up too, which should absolutely not be happening on damnation

[cerulean pelican]

HP stacking is the only thing worth doing with the curios right?

[cursive citrus]

unless veteran, yes

[meager tapir]

https://www.pcgamer.com/warhammer-40000-darktide-review/

80

[tired crown]

A wound for higher difficulties is nice, too

[cursive citrus]

yeah being able to go down more than once is nice

[little coyote]

Zealot with his toughness damage reduction works really well with toughness curios

[cerulean pelican]

With the amount of darktide stuff in the magazine recently, I feel that's as low as they could go

[tired crown]

Ooh I can see that, never played zealot.

[limber tangle]

Toughness curious pointless on 4-5 lvl missions

[meager tapir]

I love it but I think it needed another month or 2 with an extra closed beta

[little coyote]

not on zealot imo

[tired crown]

They work well on vet, too.

But you get more bang for your buck with toughness % on vet

[pliant plover]

i found a big

big

bug

[tired crown]

Big what?!

[pliant plover]

with the ogryn

its when i used a mass when perk that proc build

[limber tangle]

You can get like 50 more toughness just to get extra 0.1s of toughness while one regular lasgun mob rails you

[pliant plover]

and the mass have a passive that can instant kill

mine

[limber tangle]

Or get like 120 more hp, choice is yours

[pliant plover]

2% x 5 per heavy attack

[wind ridge]

Do you share premium cosmetics across characters of the same class?

[pliant plover]

and

[cerulean pelican]

That's how I feel, I just know a fatshark 2 months is closer to a year

[pliant plover]

when i switch to my secondary weapon (a minigun) it will make the proc

and instant everytime in a few it

exepte bosses

[tired crown]

Sounds kinda nice

If you really do think it's a bug, go to #bug-reports

[pliant plover]

one question

does passive from you primary weapon

can impact you're secondary one ?

if its not

it is

a big big bug

[tired crown]

Not that I've seen, no

[pliant plover]

i can show you

[tired crown]

But you're talking about a blessing, right?

[meager tapir]

this is my first fatshark game

[pliant plover]

yes the blessing

[limber tangle]

Perks don't affect your other weapons too

[pliant plover]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857588531941416

[cerulean pelican]

Are you a dev?

[pliant plover]

im gonna stream you dat then

[meager tapir]

no

[pliant plover]

cuz depend how i did it

[tired crown]

I believe you, fill out a bug report. I'm not sure if active blessings carrying over is a bug though

[pliant plover]

he could never proc again

[proven escarp]

Im sorry but what does the Force Swords special attack do? I get it turns blue and you can murderface monstertruck an armored enemy, but someones it sticks for a while and doesnt kill, and when it does sometimes my left hand goes up like its supposed to do something? What am I missing?

[limber tangle]

Animation cancels of mob dies

If*

Left arm is a part of animation

[pliant plover]

okay

[cerulean pelican]

Ah.

Just assumed seeing as this feels like Fatsharks first game too

[slow fog]

Oof, coming back to psyker has made me realise how much weaker it feels

[bronze zodiac]

Is the AoE on Showstopper just tiny or does it not work in the grinder? (flamer % chance to have specials explode when killed)

[tired crown]

I bet you'd get a lot more answers on the #zealot-class channel

Wish I could help but zealot is the only class I haven't played.

[bronze zodiac]

#zealot-class message
Already did, but since it's not melee talk, it got buried quickly. Here there's at least a chance it'll be seen.

[thin nebula]

do weekly contracts STILL bug out and not progress occasionally?

[jaunty sierra]

HELP - HP, Toughness, or Wound curio??

[signal kite]

is this worth consecrating for vet?

[signal kite]

yeah...

[tired crown]

Yeah that's pretty damn good. The blessing isn't great but the base stats are, especially if you use camouflage and don't move anyway.

The high stopping power will be really noticeable, too.

[signal kite]

but then, blessings will be swappable later.
also, I'm not running camo. im running unwavering focus.
so, ig conserating to gold tier is worth it then?

[thin nebula]

welp, back to back runs without the weekly contracts giving progress is pretty damn frustrating.

[tired crown]

I'd still say yes solely because while the mobility stat is low, the others are high to make up for it. Especially damage and stopping power.

The only thing that'd make me think twice is the blessing but yeah, hopefully we'll be able to change those soon.

The +20% vs unarmored perk is great too, that's a lot of damage vs scab gunners

[signal kite]

yeah. beisides if I need mobility I can just swap to melee weapon.
alright. thank you for your advice!!!

[mystic wyvern]

Is this as good as it looks before I farm to buy it? Cause it looks pretty damn spicy.

[tranquil grove]

Why isn't this classified as high. Easily the most time inefficient type of contract lol

[lilac talon]

Odd, I just finished a mission and it didn't progress my weekly contract. Is this a common bug?

[heavy frost]

Yes

Sometimes if I switch to another character then back again progress will get counted going forward, but I’ve never seen it retroactively give me the lost progress.

[torn wigeon]

Hi sorry if this has been asked before; when it comes to raising item rating in the shop, does it depend on the BASE rating of an owned item, or does it count with perks/blessings? And should I have it equipped, or can it stay in my inventory?

[tranquil grove]

I think its just based on level

because the rating comes from blessings and the stat allocation and the higher level you go the better stat allocation gets

[tiny mason]

Is there full cross play in the game?

[nimble void]

There isn't even crossplay between PC players on steam and gamepass right now

[dull oxide]

am i only suffering load time is loooong (about minute or more) even decent pc? pc spec is 5800x3d / rtx 3080, of course installed in SSD but not main drive

okay, i searched this channel and found a lot and no solution def bug

[slow roost]

anyone else having issues connecting to game?

[kind zephyr]

Man. I wonder if the server issues are at all to do with the game failing to differentiate between Gamepass servers/gamers and Steam ones.

Like it's doing unnecessary checks that it knows will fail, and saying 'can't connect' based on that.

Which would make it really hard to notice because that wouldn't actually be a 'server issue' but a 'connection checking' issue.

[onyx schooner]

I have a question, i did the all mission types penance on malice and now i wanted to do it on heresy. Now its 4/7 on heresy, is there a way to tell which ones i havent done or is it just some elaborate guessing game?

[tired crown]

Not at the moment, no. Best we can do is commit to memory or write it down, unfortunately.

I had to spam heresy missions to find my missing one. Shrug

[patent sapphire]

start a notepad doc now

[onyx schooner]

Well shit, wish they showed u like in vermintide

[patent sapphire]

heresy disruption pls

been waiting a few days for one lol

im sure it's been around but not when i'm online lol

[tired crown]

Ouch, that's rough.

I only found my missing heresy mission for vet because I did a few damnations missions as psyker and got the steam achievement for all mission types completed on heresy or above

[hard hollow]

so someone has said this symbol = 's Emperors Gift at the end of a mission, anyone got any insight on this?

[tired crown]

I can't imagine it's anything other than a rumor. Emperor's gift has been totally random for me.

[patent sapphire]

are those symbols something that can be translated?

[normal tendon]

Worth looking into I guess

I don't think it means anything though

just flavor if I had to guess.

[broken galleon]

Doesn't look like Darktongue, Chaos Rune, T'au or Ork. So probably just random symbols

Could be High Gothic, which is just meant to be gibberish latin&greek symbols

[tired crown]

I sincerely hope you're fluent in all of those.

@broken galleon , nerd god(dess) of all creation.

[broken galleon]

Lol no someone did the awesome work of translating a bunch of Darktongue and Chaos rune text from the game which got me interested and I just googled other alphabets in 40K

[tired crown]

Gotcha. That's a depth of lore understanding I aspire to reach.

[broken galleon]

Check out user u/Innuendoughnut's amazing work here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z83dui/i_tried_to_translate_a_bunch_of_runes_i_found_in/

[mint pivot]

is there a way for me and my buddy to play together? he has it on steam, and i have it on pc gamepass

[heavy shuttle]

For veteran, looking at my 3 curios.
Got a +1 Wound (Etc), +1 Wound (etc), then a 15% toughness.

Do yall think maybe dropping a wound and going with 20% HP would be a good try? Its Dif 4's primarily.

[hollow flame]

tbh all my friends are running straight toughness on vet

[heavy shuttle]

No additional wounds at all?

[hollow flame]

correct

[mint pivot]

so no one gonna answer my question

[heavy shuttle]

So two wounds and stacking toughess.

[hollow flame]

I would but I don't know

[heavy shuttle]

Hey, its worth a shot

[hollow flame]

With vet, you can break 300 toughness

I've heard the best of the best curios are can be upwards to like... 25% toughness, because there is a trait that adds 5% toughness

Can hit 350

[heavy shuttle]

I'm guessing thats when 'At Arm's length' gets it's work out with the 5%

[hollow flame]

It does, but consider the toughness ability for 50% toughness on elite kill

Higher difficulty increases elites

50% of 350 is... 175

[heavy shuttle]

I've tried it. If it counted for all shooters I could see it.

[hollow flame]

That's fair

[heavy shuttle]

But the passive 5% is just really strong with camo expert and XII

[hollow flame]

Yeah

Difficult builds for different strategies

[heavy shuttle]

FS is making it painful with their lack of full crafting.

[hollow flame]

You know, vermintide redid their crafting a few times

So here's the deal... most things that hit you, do zero damage if you're full toughness

The more toughness you have, the less a hit drops your toughness, and the more you get back from sources of toughness

[rare shadow]

god i look like some kind of

warrior that spreads the word of god

[hollow flame]

Please do not consider what I said some pro level opinion

[heavy shuttle]

Good math. I'll try out maxing toughness

Pfft, there are no pro levels fresh out of the beta. Just two gamers strategizing here 🙂

Tiberious is typing.

Fuck.

[tired crown]

No there is no way to play together without you both being on the same platform.

Here come some bad takes!

[heavy shuttle]

[tired crown]

Just taking a break from helping my wife study, I'll be on after a bit. Finals week, hooray.

[heavy shuttle]

You should really leave those college girls alone.

[tired crown]

She's a full 7 days older than me, cougar town bb

[heavy shuttle]

So 46?

[tranquil grove]

wtf is happening in #gameplay-help

[hollow flame]

Everyone is guessing

[tired crown]

@heavy shuttle is my vet buddy and carrying machine

[heavy shuttle]

🤔

[tired crown]

He has to pester me wherever he sees me

[heavy shuttle]

Did you say, bolter is way better than the XII?

[tired crown]

Laspistol solo runs or your opinion is invalid.

[heavy shuttle]

🤮

[tranquil grove]

You know what I dont wanna know

[hollow flame]

I'm fine with las pistol

[tired crown]

Hey, I spend a pretty big chunk of my day in this channel answering every question I can. It's the least toxic place.

[heavy shuttle]

Agreed.

Veteran channel is... bad.

[hollow flame]

I prefer the mkIV 😛

[tired crown]

Yeah.. same with psyker.

So regarding the toughness, it's only at 100% that you take zero chip damage right? Not over 100

It's something I've been meaning to test but haven't looked out for

[heady citrus]

Is veteran’s “Clear all mission types on malice or higher” bugged? I’ve cleared all 7 three times now (yes I’ve written them down). Is it only certain missions that work? (For example, you need to do the Ammo raid mission specifically?)

[tired crown]

It's worked fine for me and others I know, and it shouldn't matter what level - the mission type is what's important.

It might be something to file under #bug-reports because I don't think I've seen that outside of human error (which I did)

Have you gotten the steam achievement for it? Assuming you're on steam?

[heady citrus]

No I haven’t. It’s still reading 6/7

No proc

No steam achieve

[tired crown]

Hmm, odd. Definitely file a bug report then if you're sure! Don't want to miss out on the coolest helmet.

[heady citrus]

Yeah there’s already one in there for it. This is kinda ridiculous

On top of that why doesn’t it even read what mission you “haven’t” done yet? Vermintide. Had that.

Ah whatever, thanks for the help

[broken galleon]

What are the trigger conditions for daemon host? Anecdotally it seems to be standing near it for X seconds. Not sure if crouching makes any difference, nor noise (e.g. shooting the floor next to it)

[inland imp]

How are people getting these 380 base rating gears when the highest I've seen is a 349? Been checking every day since I hit 30 in beta.

[dull carbon]

Are there any configuration hacks to bypass the intro cinematic yet?

[inland imp]

I saw that

[median moon]

Its just pure RNG and its painful

[hollow flame]

I picked up 2 370 base stat earlier today

previous highest was like 328

[keen wedge]

Shining a lasgun’s flashlight at it, sprinting near it, and I think even looking at it too long will trigger it.

Flashlight absolutely triggers it though

[keen wedge]

Most of the time it’s Espionage and Intelligence that get me. One has an Eye icon and one has the Scanner sweep icon

[heady citrus]

Yeah I did both : /

I’ve seen multiple threads on the forums saying it’s bugged evidently

[keen wedge]

Hm. That’s unfortunate.

[heady citrus]

Maybe someday they’ll fix it idk

[keen wedge]

My sympathies

[keen wedge]

Yep. First hit’s free at max toughness whatever it is.

[flint dock]

Is there a strikesquad only chat?

and if there is, how do you disable it

[broken galleon]

Thank you! Good to know

[bright relic]

Well then...

[keen wedge]

I saw a 21% hp and 5% hp curio once…

But the other rolls on it were trash

[void plaza]

does toughness drop above 17%?

[meager tapir]

What does toughness do

[heavy shuttle]

Its like a mini-shield that leaks damage to your health points the weaker it gets

Public queues vs premades.

[heavy shuttle]

I believe it goes to 20%. Making it possible to reach 25% with a +5% toughness perk

[meager tapir]

The blue bar?

[heavy shuttle]

Si.

[void plaza]

Never seen a 20 roll

Heck, played daily since the beta. Never seen above 18% personally

[south fiber]

does anyone know what power is?

[hybrid compass]

anyone's weekly contract not progressing?

stuck at 11/12 grims even though i got the grims in past 2 missions

[heavy shuttle]

It normally takes awhile to update for me.