gameplay-help

[keen elk]

Maybe "applies sometimes but not all the times."

[slow fog]

Oh shoot

Daemonhost cheesing would totally work

Does the penance specify monstrosity?

Or specifically Ogryn/beast?

[high cairn]

Nah then it would just be multiplicative with hard and soft caps. There's no such thing as a partially multiplicative value in terms of data analysis.

[sharp locust]

Deamonhost is a monstrosity, so it works

You just have to kill a monstrosity

[slow fog]

Yeah thats a good shout then

Oggy shield special in the corner while psyker nukes

[sharp locust]

Just let the witch "eat" an ogryn then BB that bitch

[high cairn]

I wish the Devs would give Zealot their golden glow back

[sharp locust]

So yep, thats why im waiting for the come back of the witches

[solemn parcel]

wish i got flak armor damage but oh wekll

lmao got toughness on multiple melee hit

toughness forever

[slow fog]

good

Ogryn Stronk

[void plaza]

What's the highest salvage tier weapon rating number you have seen?

[solemn parcel]

https://i.imgur.com/kf1T33G.jpeg

[slow fog]

Get tougness plus curios

Be the toughest boi around

[solemn parcel]

toughness forever

yeah i got a lot of those lying around

[high cairn]

You've asked this like 5 times that I've seen dude

[void plaza]

Different responses every time so far 🙃

[slow fog]

beautiful. It's such a silly roll which only makes it better

[solemn parcel]

[slow fog]

Ive only tried a couple of ogryn melees, but i love the stick

[solemn parcel]

it's like i have a level 5 feat for free

[patent sapphire]

personally, 358, seen a screenshot of 376, and have a 400 green in my inventory which means it's between 375 and 390

[high cairn]

We had a guy in here a bit ago who got a 509 Gold in his shop

His Melk shop

[radiant mulch]

Anyone else feel like the Demolition Team feat is useless? I've gone entire games without generating a single grenade xD

[tired crown]

I just got the shield and it's a blast. So much funN

[solemn parcel]

it is by far my favorite

so im pretty happy

[spice sigil]

Its for elite kills only, description aint accurate

[solemn parcel]

i was hoping for a dps blessing but i can reroll it later if i wanted to

[tired crown]

Shield or the stick have been the best

[high cairn]

^ This Plasma gun, 509. Never seen anything like it

[radiant mulch]

ahhh

[spice sigil]

so your right, its useless lol

[radiant mulch]

how "usefull" and enjoying™️

[patent sapphire]

#theorycrafting message

378 in the other channel

[radiant mulch]

any you'd suggest there?

[wintry mirage]

Anyone want to share good flame staff rolls?

[slow fog]

Looking forward to shield

Oggy is my lowest boi tho

Poor Drumpf

[spice sigil]

The one that higlights for your team is good, that on the same line?

[tired crown]

You get it unlocked at level 10, same as the bleed on heavy attack feat. They seem to go hand in hand, heavy attacks with the shield making the hordes bleed out.

[radiant mulch]

yeee

didn't know if the shields for friendlies was even worth

probably only with premade

[spice sigil]

I really want it to work, wish it mabye buffed their toughness gain for a little bit too

[radiant mulch]

if it is just elites that shit needs to be like 15 or 20%

[heady crest]

Take camo

[radiant mulch]

that's the next line

[heady crest]

Ah right, I thought it was that one

[spice sigil]

Yup considering the feat before that is a grenade every min

[radiant mulch]

Does camo work on ranged too?

[heady crest]

and it's a column technically

yeah

[spice sigil]

a column is a line

technically

[heady crest]

camo works on everything so you go stock still, and pop the heads of the few actually aiming at you, then just go to town on the others

line suggests horizontal. :p

[spice sigil]

it doesnt

[radiant mulch]

yea no it doesn't

[heady crest]

:T

[spice sigil]

lol, but yeah camo is great

[radiant mulch]

I move a lot so I might take the top one

[stable ferry]

Vertical lines do not exist

[spice sigil]

whichever you want of course, its all playstyle and preference

[stable ferry]

Horizontal supremacy

[formal ocean]

is there a way to filter out lasguns so I can get more staffs or do I just have to sit, wait, and pray?

i didn't sign up for goofy space wizard to shoot guns man

[spice sigil]

Sit, wait and pray unfortunately

[formal ocean]

[slow fog]

Or wait for release. Hopefully they add some different methods for chasing specific items

[spice sigil]

Maybe that will come with crafting, a feature that wont be ready for the damn launch of the game

[main laurel]

whats the highest power rating you can get from the default shop? ~400?

[slow fog]

Im still curious whether the Shrine of the Omnisiah is just crafting and the achievement is bugged

[civic dome]

would love help for penance (cliffhanger) for my psyker

[rigid wasp]

Is espionage actually a thing

[civic dome]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198036155398

[slow fog]

FBI in the chat:

"Nah"

[silent beacon]

you know i really enjoy going into a malice endless horde mission and getting pub'd with 3 sub lvl 10's

[slow fog]

fark IKR

[cursive citrus]

would be nice if at least they would change the warzone nonsense every couple hours instead of once every few days

[sterile gate]

Thinking about snagging this, but what counts as "unyielding"?

[cursive citrus]

unarmored ogryns

[slow fog]

So many times yesterday:

Join diff 4 lobby
Two level 15s
Leave lobby

[cursive citrus]

and beast of nurgle?

i think plague ogryn too

[sterile gate]

Oh, I thought Beast and Plague Ogryn were Monstrosities?

[cursive citrus]

their armor type is unyielding

[sterile gate]

Ah, I see

Also found https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4 while googlin'

I'm grabbing it. Seems like anything that isn't unyielding goes down quick enough (with the exception of Carapace, but thats what Power Sword is for >.>)

[hollow flame]

The enemies will be on their butts.

[paper holly]

Gross

[dark dagger]

Is this the bleed on hit perk or bleed on crit?

[hollow flame]

it does say "bleed on crit"

just guessing

[dark dagger]

I cant read, apparently

[sterile gate]

Time to start playing Ogryn

[stable thistle]

if you get the super long loading screen after a d/c is it best to just alt+f4?

[uncut verge]

Super long loading seems to happen when the mission is well underway so maybe normal?

[silent beacon]

and then I get into a mission with a bunch of 20+ and we spend 40 min getting to the end of the mission just to die becuase the full health ogyrn and preacher kept waiting for the whole horde to die to move forward. We were playing on endless horde

[uncut verge]

[stable thistle]

ive been pretty consistently d/cing as soon as the mission starts

and usually its a quick reconnect but lately ive had the super long loading scren

[tepid skiff]

gentlemen, can you explain me the difference between scab shooters? there are two sorts, ones with night vision goggles + metal armour + long sleeves, and the ones with just a helmet + t-shirt + ammo belts.

[heavy stone]

It depends on the map you're on that dictates which will spawn, the latter are way squishier ime

[slow fog]

I think one is a gunner and the other is the shotgunner

[heavy stone]

(I'd check the Meatgrinder proper)

[tepid skiff]

no, i mean the regular line infantry, not elites.

[polar leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCAJ1RS1wfI&list=PL2WiDWDmLcJiDdgPvX2SMfsxqIH3F-hxE&index=1&ab_channel=Gankalf'sMagicMotions

[proven escarp]

How many diff chest appearance things have you seen in the exchange? Ive only seen the grey one with a bandoleer w/3 bags.

[dense temple]

Almost solo'd the assassination boss on heresy

dang

stood on a flamer fire nade on accident

:(

[outer bloom]

so pinning fire should be super good on a bolt gun right?

since it has that crazy big stagger aura.

[twilit bough]

Just finished all my sharp shooter penances now to another class as a zealot can I be dragged into a level 4 heresy mission by friends or nah?

[sterile gate]

so pinning fire should be is super good on a bolt gun right?

[outer bloom]

depends how good you are

[cold sage]

are unyielding enemies any enemies mid swing or just the big elites?

[outer bloom]

too bad I dont think I can swing the coins before it rotates

[slow fog]

Unyielding is an armour type

Its on Plogryns, reapers, Beasts of Nurgle etc

[cold sage]

so like not beserkers?

[polar leaf]

this is one good way to use the force sword trust me it helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCAJ1RS1wfI&list=PL2WiDWDmLcJiDdgPvX2SMfsxqIH3F-hxE&index=1&ab_channel=Gankalf'sMagicMotions

[slow fog]

No

Berserkers are either flak or "Dreg rager" armour type

[sterile gate]

Is the Vraks MK VII any good? Don't like the other autoguns, but a semi-auto Kantrael MG XII-like autogun is tempting.

Also

Check #gameplay-help message for armor types

Honestly might not be a bad idea to pin it >.>

[stable thistle]

is there anything at all i can do regarding these Error: 2007 d/c's i just had a mission where i d/c'd 4 times throughout the match

[proven escarp]

LOL i cant post the picture of the half naked ogryn. Does clothing store refresh daily? Looking for him w/no shirt

[tepid skiff]

it's quite alright for plinking heads, but i was unable to find any advantages over kant12.

but kant12 is pretty much the best gun in the game, so.

[humble helm]

does anyone know how I can reduce input latency?

[solemn parcel]

what are maniacs?

[silver ridge]

uh guys theres a genestealer

[rigid wasp]

this is almost entirely hardware

[visual jacinth]

Had anyone notice an increase to weapon drops?

[wind willow]

can someone tell me what the flesh tearer perk does?`thanks

[hallow pebble]

Do we have to equip items or just have them in our inventory to count as overall power?

[north wolf]

Playing combat knife zealot really makes me wish you could hold a button for chained light attacks. My poor mouse finger.

[proven escarp]

Are there pro/cons of diff heights for veteran?

[north wolf]

I have a strong feeling that height has no effect on gameplay and is only cosmetic. I think that, because when you make someone as small as possible, and stand next to someone who is also as small as possible. in first person you look down on them, suggesting that the camera is always at a default position.
That makes me believe that the hitboxes of the characters are also on a default.

However: No guarantees on this, this is speculation. I do not think anyone has done testing on height.

[verbal wyvern]

was the deamon boss taken out?

[patent sapphire]

it's amazing how often you find all 3 scriptures when everyone has a "get 25 scriptures" weekly

compared to normal

[inland crane]

is it possible to get the block penance (2) as a zealot?

[wind willow]

ty

[steady lantern]

any idea why this mission wont progress any further?

[grave briar]

ok, dumb question since no one has answered it for me, what are "flash missions" to get the final 7/7 mission type?

You have to have done it to get all penances

[inland crane]

mission types are assassination, disruption, espionage, investigation, raid, repair, and strike.

flash mission is the event with the flashlight I believe.

[grave briar]

I did those during the special event, no luck

see?

[unborn pilot]

did i miss a condition that wasn't endless horde by hving to work? 😦

[grave briar]

There was a 6? hour window for the ||daemonhost|| and lights out condition

[unborn pilot]

lame

[inland crane]

Well I have 7/7 types done. so I can definitely say, flash is not a mission type. penance might be bugged or somethin

[grave briar]

it'll be back on full release

[grave briar]

bruh, read the penance list. It's a mission type and no one has been able to explain what it is

[inland crane]

Just says its a mission actually, not a mission type

[unborn pilot]

i think he's talking about this one. and i bet it's something that won't be out til release

[inland crane]

But yeah the 7 types are above "first assignment" penance. but i have yet to see what it is. i just assume most stuff is bugged or not out til release, cause you know. beta game

[golden schooner]

I just got a new lasgun that uses 2 ammo instead of 3 per shot. Is there any way to see this on a weapon in advance? Its a huge advantage

[hallow pebble]

The flash description sounds like a mission where theres an alarm, where enemies constantly attack until you're out

Thats what im assuming

[slow fog]

I was thinking it could be an alternate objective

Like you're doing an assassination and then a different door opens up and they say "Hey, something else came up, could you go blow up this mcguffin rather than embarrassing another shield doofus?"

[solemn parcel]

whoa,what's the model name?

[golden schooner]

Kantrael MG IV Infantry Lasgun

[olive pebble]

So what’s the incentive for playing higher difficulty missions at level 30 besides gold? At Malice it doesn’t seem like you get more crafting material and weapon drops are still stupid rare…

[solemn parcel]

thanks, and i dont recall anything on the weapons screen that says how much ammo it uses per shot

that's super weird

[golden schooner]

Im guessing the MG IV has lower damage but uses less ammo. I really wish weapons had numerical stats instead of stupid bars

[spiral kelp]

Is this one really worth it?

[ivory wing]

Anyone else still cant reroll contracts?

[kind zephyr]

just my anecdote but I swear I see diamantine more in above-Malice.

[ivory wing]

Definitely more on Malice than the lower two. You're lucky if you get 10 dimanite on them. I usually get 40+ on Malice

Or whatever its called lol

[kind zephyr]

I just want Heresy+ to get fixed for automatic Endless Hordes x_x

I would be succeeding Heresy runs almost every time if not for that rn.

[north wolf]

What's wrong with endless hordes?

[waxen nest]

can you get a +2 to wounds in a relic ?

[severe bridge]

this worth it?

[torpid grotto]

Still having that problem?

[steady lantern]

yup, its stuck and i cant re-roll it either

[steady lantern]

also i hit the random boxes and got 4 purple staffs lol

[storm carbon]

How do I get melee enemies from teleporting behind me when standing in a corner or against a wall

[lost yacht]

a 3 star perk will put you at 465

[torpid grotto]

did all the usual things? restart the game? join and quit and join a game? playing a higher difficulty t4-5? changing melee weapons?

[steady lantern]

all of the above

[severe bridge]

is that good enough? been upgarding it from a 350 white one, and thanks for the help

[steady lantern]

they are both known bugs on the forums

[steady lantern]

try to only upgrade from a 370 white in the future

[severe bridge]

ah dang. did not know that

[lost yacht]

470* sorry. Its not bad.

[torpid grotto]

hopefully they release a debug tomorrow.

[lost yacht]

370 white is ridiculously rare lol

[severe bridge]

wait... are there 470 whites?

oh 370

[steady lantern]

very rare but yes

[severe bridge]

i have a 370 white but its an axe : (

[waxen nest]

Is there a +2 relic or is +1 the max ?

[steady lantern]

thing is upgrading a 350 white isnt worth might as well start at a 400 blue

[steady lantern]

+2 on what?

[waxen nest]

wounds

[lost yacht]

Yeap thats true

[slow fog]

Personally I don't like eviscirators that don't have the toughness on multihit blessing

[frozen bloom]

are there any ogryn weapons with heavy horizontal swings for leveling? after having played power sword every ogryn weapon feels shit

[slow fog]

Zealots kind of need that survivability

[severe bridge]

oops, i thought that your supposed to upgrade a white if its 350 or up

[north wolf]

How does "+1 wounds" work?

[slow fog]

Nah I think you're right on that Killcat

[severe bridge]

i mean youll be able to change around those perks ltr

[steady lantern]

you get 20-30 per upgrade

[lost yacht]

20 for small perks. 3 pip traits are worth 45

[severe bridge]

ah ok

[slow fog]

Wounds are the segments your health is broken into. Each time you go down you lose a segment to corruption, meaning the more wounds you have, the less each down affects you. For example if you have two wounds and you go down, you now have 50% corruption, if you have 4 wounds and you go down, you only have 25% corruption

[steady lantern]

3pip trait?

[lost yacht]

Look at your wrath trait

[waxen nest]

so no one knows then lol

[lost yacht]

do you see 3 lines sticking out?

[severe bridge]

so is it ok to get a high lvl blue to upgrade?

[lost yacht]

that means it tier 3

tier 4 is highest

[north wolf]

Oh lol, I thought it was like a damage thing like bleed.

[steady lantern]

like this?

[lost yacht]

YEs thats tier 3 as well

[steady lantern]

cool never knew that

[lost yacht]

If you want to bump up your ilvl, collect the trait you want and combine them at launch

3 same tier traits ripped out by hadron can make the next tier

[slow fog]

Nah Wounds is Warhammer table top terminology. On table top, a character 4 wounds means they have to be succesfully hit 4 times before they die. So a big beefy boi might have 4 wounds, whereas a guardsman has 1. Intuitively you would read having more wounds as a bad thing, but it's SUPPOSED to read as "How many wounds to kill"

[severe bridge]

intereseting... so should i wait to upgrade the eviscerator till i find a better one?

[steady lantern]

or you could find eviserators with tier 3 traits to sacrifice

maybe

[slow fog]

I would recommend looking out for a good toughness on multi hit perk

[severe bridge]

ah ok

never gotten that one

also, if buying golds from melks shop what range should i be on the lookout for

[uncut tangle]

So I'm curious what would be the the max amount of wounds one could have

[steady lantern]

with this sword do i really need Kinetic shield on psycher?

[uncut tangle]

Reduced by 0%

[spiral kelp]

what is the best trait for llightinig staff?

[steady lantern]

no additive bonus cuz tier 1 perk, will upgrade later

[uncut tangle]

Ah ok

[lost yacht]

Your stamina will be depleted in two bursts. Without the feat that converts block cost to peril; its useless

[steady lantern]

pretty much

i wish that the perk was a higher lvl so i can survive 3 or maybe even 4 bursts

also would warp nexus cap at 20% more crit chance?

[lost yacht]

I mean i have a tier 3 deflector and it only reduces cost by 10%. Not much diff

[steady lantern]

sad

ok how tf does warp nexus actually work? does anyone know

[slow fog]

I think you've got it right

Stacks 5 times

I assume ar max stacks it would be multiplicative

So 5x whatever the base value is according to peril

Itd be nice if they gave a minimum value so we could work it out but hey

[orchid pollen]

Hey, sorry to be a bother but I have another quick question that might've been answered before: Does corruption resistance apply to all sources, or just grimoires?

[crimson stag]

How do you beat this level?

[azure cove]

Is this worth getting for upgrades/rerolls? Or is 350 too low for a green?

[crimson stag]

350 is max level for a grey

if that helps your decision

[azure cove]

So this is a minimum for green? Ow.

[crimson stag]

Also considering damage % rolls go to 20%...

[honest jacinth]

does this game work like vermintide with weapon levels? Should I buy the highest available to me?

[slender pasture]

Im gonna assume its all sources
Also a question of my own,

Does anyone have solid info on how the power rating of a weapon is distributed to a weapon?

Like I've seen the reddit posts breaking down how they're related but im interested in more on whether or not it works like

Assuming a grey rarity,
Total power rating rolled -> total is then distributed into the stat bars

OR is it

Stat bars are only indicative of the percent of the total power rating

Eg. if one weapon is 300 rating while another is 350
if their damage bar is EXACTLY the same, will those 2 guns have the same damage stat?

[orchid pollen]

actually I've seen greys go up to 376 and 380

in this server

[azure cove]

I was told once grey maxes at 365 but man I dunno.

[honest jacinth]

anyone know?

[orchid pollen]

not exactly, the level is distributed across all the stat bars and traits/perks

[crimson stag]

Never personally seen one above 350, but if you see it feel free to tag me, would love to know definitively what the cap is

And the short answer is, no one "really" knows at this point how the shop determines new power level curves for your character. It could be like Vermintide watermarking. But at this point its still just conjecture

[honest jacinth]

talking about item levels, not damage/power from a single weapon. In Vermintide you needed to wear/unlock 400's before you could get 500's etc. is it the same in darktide

[crimson stag]

At the very least we know its not like VT in that having higher level gear doesnt automatically guarantee the shop has higher level gear

[orchid pollen]

I think your average power level does determine what guns you'll be getting, in addition to your character's actual level

[crimson stag]

because I have 450+ weapons and still see sub 400 gear in the shop all the time

[honest jacinth]

well I have a 421 sword in daily shop

my main weapon is only like 350

[orchid pollen]

same rarity?

[honest jacinth]

so I was curious if I should buy it based on level alone

[crimson stag]

i mean buy it and see if it makes a difference, at this point dockets are fairly worthless, so whats one weapon for science

[honest jacinth]

it's weekly currency, not dockets

[crimson stag]

oh, then probably not

[slender pasture]

Bro are they same rarity or not
Cos that makes a difference on whether its worth

[full loom]

Hi there, probably already been asked a bunch of times but; does anyone know what time the servers are going down before launch? I know it's on the 29th, just curious as to what time in particular

[honest jacinth]

purple vs blue

[orchid pollen]

your purple vs daily's blue?

[honest jacinth]

shop is purple, have blue

[uncut tangle]

I picked up a 361 tac axe but that's the highest I seen

[orchid pollen]

Is your character max level yet?

[honest jacinth]

no

[orchid pollen]

if not i'd hold out for hourly shop rotations instead

[uncut tangle]

I do remember seeing a 365 lasgun but it was the blue one so skipped it

[crimson stag]

a 421 purple is not worth at all

[orchid pollen]

especially if you're only buying the daily gun for power level and not actual usage

[crimson stag]

Ive seen 421+ blues in the rotating docket shop without spending anything in the currency shop

wait for better ones to appear

[orchid pollen]

while i was still leveling up sometimes the hourly shop would throw me a bone and give me a 20-30 power level increase

[uncut tangle]

So seeing alot of weapons with crucian roulette how does it work exactly

[slow fog]

So im unlikely to really do anything but levelling until release when things are more firmed up, but with gear at the moment the best strategy is to get a high level white item and upgrade it yeah?

[uncut tangle]

For the head hunter at least

Yes

[orchid pollen]

it's slowed down now that i'm hitting that 350 white/450 purple range

[slender pasture]

Not exactly
Its more of, you're more sure of the actual stats of your gun rather than guesstimating higher rarity guns since higher rarity adds blessings and perks into the power rating pool without actually increasing the stats of your gun

If that makes sense

If you find a high rarity gun with high stat bars and perk/blessings that you want, its just as good as trying to build up a gun from low rarity

[slow fog]

Yeah that's what I kind of meant

[orchid pollen]

i will say that in my experience with upgrading weapons that the bonus stats have consistently been maxxed out every time

[slow fog]

By taking a high level white all the level points are on stats and then consecration adds blessings etc without pulling from the pool of available stat points

[slender pasture]

yep

[slow fog]

Ok ill keep an eye out

[uncut tangle]

Generally the stats are more important then the perks so getting a 350 gray with good rolls really helps

[slow fog]

I'm super duper expecting a change on or post release

[uncut tangle]

And rerolling perks comes out in like two days as well

[slow fog]

But also maybe this might be a cheeky way of getting better weapons now which will go away later, so I should get in now haha

V cute pup btw

[uncut tangle]

The rng on actually finding a good Gray is harder then good perk tbh

[high cairn]

Speaking of which, a friend of mine just got a 380 Grey

[uncut tangle]

Lucky

[slow fog]

Fanks emprah

[high cairn]

The upgrade rolls weren't he best but it's purple now and the Gold upgrade will land it between 485 and 515

[uncut tangle]

Also thanks, unfortunately had to give it to my sister to look after due to work

[slow fog]

Aw

[slender pasture]

What was his highest power rated weapon before finding that one?

[high cairn]

492 Gold

Shield and Mace on Ogryn

[keen abyss]

I'm working on getting Deadeye, any tips?

[uncut tangle]

Had to travel to like 4 different states this year alone and taking a dog with me would be rough both both myself and him

[slender pasture]

oh damn okay
man i really wanna know if dt works on a wm system just like vt

[uncut tangle]

Use a plasma gun

Take pod shots like a chicken and let your team carry you

[keen abyss]

really? plasma is the last thing I would expect

[high cairn]

Is that confirmed

[slow fog]

Oh yeah thats fair. My wife and I have a 6 month old pup and we feel bad leaving it alone for longer than like 2 hours

[high cairn]

or is that just a guess since the game releases in 2 days

[uncut tangle]

Also stay far away from them at the end to avoid ammo

[slender pasture]

pretty sure the most surefire way is using a revolver
and go assassination missioin
revolvers have the smallest ammo pools so easiest to drain its ammo

[uncut tangle]

That's one of the smiths features

Tech priest in this case

[keen abyss]

oh, that's 'every shot counts' I'm talking deadeye, the 5 kills during volley fire one

[slender pasture]

assassination is also good because apparently after u kill the boss, any ammo u gain after from your passive doesnt count anymore

[high cairn]

Sure but have they said the entire Shrine will be unlocked on release?

Or are you just assuming it will be

[uncut tangle]

It would be stupid if it wasn't but that's fatshark so who knows

[high cairn]

Yeah, that's kinda my point XD

With FS, I wouldn't trust anything unless they say it directly

Especially with how people have these ideas they conjure up themselves

[slender pasture]

if its that one, at lvl 30 u can take the Counterfire feat which marks the regular gunners as priority targets
use that feat and just headshot a bunch of gunners

[uncut tangle]

I used a bolter and ran the reload perks

[slender pasture]

also refreshes your volley fire duration so u have more time to complete the penance too

[high cairn]

I remember when we first got shown the Shrine in the overview trailer, people were saying to save your extra gear because deconstructing might give you the materials for upgrades.

[uncut tangle]

So could easily kill 5 enemies in a single volly

[keen abyss]

I've been doing that, but the cheevo doesn't seem to count the gunners, and counterfire doesn't work for them either half the time.

[uncut tangle]

Also ask team mates to hold back so you can get the kills

[slender pasture]

its just a bug, i got my penance from doing that

[keen abyss]

ah, good to know, I'll keep trying it then

[uncut tangle]

Yea counter fire is kinda buggy so use the shot reapers etc as your reset

[slender pasture]

sometimes counterfire doesnt mark gunners as prio cos it bugs out
but as long as theyre marked, they count for penance

[keen abyss]

I've definitely seen them not count when they're highlighted. I it feels almost random if it works

[slow fog]

Yeah sometimes penance don't fire for no reason. I had to do the no shoot penance on zealot at least twice

[uncut tangle]

On the water town map I always see about 3 ogryns and a couple of random elites at the start

[keen abyss]

damn

[uncut tangle]

Easy way to get it there

[slender pasture]

Mmm then thats as much as i can help then
Probs just bugging out and messing it up for you sadgely

[knotty stratus]

wheres the best place to get cliffhanger penance. been doing the smelter mission just for the big platform but is there anything on rotation thats earlier in the mission?

[storm laurel]

chasm station assassination mission

has that one real long bridge right at the beginning

good chance of a horde spawning on it too

[cedar wharf]

Anyone else unable to reroll weeklies atm?

[wispy fractal]

how valuable is +1 rending anyway. like how significant of a debuff is a single stack of it.

[minor oxide]

Do you get better weapons as rewards from doing higher threat missions?

[dawn zenith]

No.

[slender pasture]

is that confirmed?

[crimson stag]

I've gotten a grey reward doing damnation runs, so, probably not

[dawn zenith]

I have recieved 15 white axes in my time doing lvl 4 missions, and have recieved 2 orange trinkets after completing level 3 missions. This is inconsistent enough for me to say "its random enough to not rely on it."

[slender pasture]

Well as ppl have already worked out, rarity doesnt really matter all that much
Its the stat rolls and base power that do

[crimson stag]

rarity and power level caps are interlinked

[fierce olive]

when are lesser hordes being readded

im tryna get that respirator helmet without suffering

[slender pasture]

Yes but youve got it the other way around

Stat rolls determine the base power rating THEN the power ratings go up as your wep gains blessings and perks but no longer increase its base stats

Thats why a 350 grey will be much stronger (in terms of its stat totals) than a 350 green or blue

[rigid wasp]

bruh has Investigation or Espionage been on the menu all day?

I haven't seen either once

[fierce olive]

they were removed in favor of disruption + repair

they cycle each other out

i assume on release everything will be released

[rigid wasp]

A few days ago I was playing disruption repair espionage and investigate

all in the same menu

[slender pasture]

Yes but as others have already pointed out, rarity isnt the only thing that determines the potential of the gun

So its not really confirmed whether higher difficulties do or dont reward gear with better potential

As per posts like this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z59n6k/dont_underestimate_grey_weapons_or_all_other/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Shows how rarity isnt the only thing to look out for
Especially when you want to fully optimize your gear, in some cases youre better off working them up from grey than rolling with whatever mastercrafed weapons drop for you

[cedar mason]

should i wait until level 30 to acquire recquisitions

[slender pasture]

for the rarity of the currency, yes

[fallen shell]

Imagine getting through a whole level just to have 0 kills.. As if I slayed all those heretics for nothing..

[crimson stag]

Filthy pacifists

[slender pasture]

pretty sure thats a bug lol

[fallen shell]

The Emprah protects. Just not us.

[hallow pebble]

is this reviving me only or me reviving others?

[fallen shell]

You reviving allies.

[hard hollow]

What time does the beta go down on the 29th to prep for full release?

[toxic stone]

What do onslaught actually do? Do it means that I can charge up Lucius faster? But I didn't think it is faster in the meat grindier testing

[hard hollow]

bayonet charge

[toxic stone]

Ah

Ok

Hmmm, tested, doesn't seems faster

[slow fog]

OK so

First game with powersword

that boi is cracked

[fallen shell]

Just like their armor

[slow fog]

more like arless lmao

[slender pasture]

im pre sure thats referring to the charge up speed of the shots lol

not the bayonet charge

[oblique fox]

Not typically a fan of shotguns on Vet. How effective is the blessing? First time ive seen it

[toxic stone]

Hmmm it do feel slightly faster when testing

But tbh I don't think half of second of charge reduction is worth it

Will probably reroll if we can choose to re roll 1 ability

[rigid wasp]

Question about the Make Every Shot Count penance

Do I have to use the ammo I generate from killing specials?

Or can I just dump all my ammo alt f4 out then rejoin and land one shot for 100% accuracy

[slender pasture]

i mean ud have to dump that ammo into enemies as well at 100% accuracy
and yeah the ammo from specials count
just as long as u finish mission with 0 ammo at the end of the mission

[rigid wasp]

If you alt f4 crash and rejoin it resets your stats

So you could dump it all but one then shoot one enemy for 100%

[slender pasture]

ahh the cheese just like for on overwatch
yeah guess that would work

[fathom crag]

Helllo

Is Preacher Penance "Shocking Stuff" Bugged?

My progress meter for it is stuck at 1/50 and I've had multiple attempts at it which should have counted towards progress or even success... I'm not sure If I'm doing something wrong. I'm playing on Malice with endless horde and trying to flame em down straight after the grenade pops.

[high cairn]

It’s bugged. You have to do it on Heresy or Damnation, not Malice

[fathom crag]

Ouhhh... Thank you. Alright. I'll try that then.

[marble hinge]

Been trying to get this all yesterday, there is always someone in the party refuses to help, haven't found a trick to do it yet

[slow fog]

Are any of the hellbores actively good?

[unreal dragon]

can a purgatus staff even crit?

[slow fog]

Cause I wasnt impressed by mk1

[dawn zenith]

I got mine by tossing 2 grenades at a horde then using a flamethrower.

[slow fog]

But just got a purple emprahs gift mk2

[unreal dragon]

I see a lot of purgatus staff with +crit but unconvinced burning does crit

[onyx schooner]

is there a way to tell which mission i haven't done for the 7 different mission penance?

[marble hinge]

that's what I'm geared/specced to do, but so far no dice

[dawn zenith]

Itll definitely take some luck or a cooperative team, since the flamethrower's afterburn damage needs a couple seconds. Worst case scenario, you could just go for the challenges for the saintly gear.

[marble hinge]

I have all done except that one, and can't progress mask penance line until it's done

[rigid wasp]

should I get this for no other reason than to boost my gear stats? everything I have is 400

[solemn parcel]

i am so sick of soundless backstabs

[heavy shuttle]

Audio troubles has been an ongoing thing. I think they were working on it?

[solemn parcel]

here's hoping

vt2 had the wooshes working just fine

[hard hollow]

Is the game going down to prep for full release??

[weak marlin]

Anyone know if the powerlevel of available items in the store is based off your current gear equipped or in inventory, or just RNG based off your overall character level?

Cause I got a PL 401 Heavy Stubber a while ago, but now everything seems to be around 390-395.

[dawn zenith]

Rng of character level. I got all oranges with curios at ~110, and weapons at ~490. My shop shows the same numbers, and they have only been hovering at a max of about 390-360.

[weak marlin]

Hmmm

[foggy belfry]

That feeling when error 2007 makes you not play the game 😕

[slender pasture]

Hey anyone know whether Monstrosities count as Unarmoured Enemies as well?

[cunning rivet]

is this worth?

or should i hold my 1700 for more contracts to get enough for a legendary weapon

[slender pasture]

id say having a good weapon is more important than curio

[normal tendon]

I would wait

I'd say a good curio is worth the cost but it has to be a much better roll

[tulip hollow]

idk what they smoking but thats a fire roll for heresy+

[abstract maple]

That's an awesome curio. I'd buy it tbh

[viral rover]

When do servers go down for maintenance before launch

[hallow pebble]

For 1300? buy

[rigid wasp]

I feel u can just roll something smiliar or get it as a gift

[cunning rivet]

they're rare so i'll just buy it, i dont see many legendary

[modest wagon]

Hey guys. I have the psyker staff with white flames, and I’m crashing everytime I left click. Any fix

[lapis lintel]

Don't use it and you won't crash

[haughty radish]

did they change the thunderhammer at all? It feels a lot better to use

[haughty radish]

maybe thats just me after a day of not playing

[turbid dock]

No, usually unyielding

[turbid dock]

Does upgrade cost increase everytime? Or is it fixed?

Like green to blue will always cost: x plasteel and y diamantine

[high cairn]

Each tier is fixed

Purple to gold is always like 350 Diamantine

Blue to purple is always 150

Green to blue is 50

[turbid dock]

Alright thanks

[fair badge]

How do I get higher iLevel? Do I have to equip high level items or is it enough to have them in inv?

[wanton edge]

[kind flicker]

No idea, don't think anyone actually knows, I have 460+ weapons equipped with 125+ curios and my standard shop blues still sit at just under 400 at the most, averaging around 380

[uncut tangle]

What perks should I look out for for the lasgun

I know the weak shot dmg is good but what elsr

[tardy stump]

is this ok for crafting?

[primal osprey]

Actually pretty good

[cunning rivet]

that things juiced lmfao

[tardy stump]

nice 😄

[primal osprey]

Mobility being dumped is probably the best for that

[tardy stump]

will there be any way to improve rating other than consecrate?

(does it matter?)

[primal osprey]

Mobility affects things like dodging

[tardy stump]

I mean rating

the number

[primal osprey]

Well not really

Unless you replace blessings with better blessings

It's just a representation of the amount of "points" in the weapon

The more "points" something has in it the better on average it will be

[tardy stump]

I see

[visual jacinth]

So are the shop rolls just completely random as far as Ilev at 30?

[primal osprey]

Pretty much

Within a certain range

[visual jacinth]

I have a 480 and 476 main weapons and the curios all at 125 plus. Still get crappy I lev rolls. So I was just checking if it was indeed random.

[primal osprey]

Ya pretty much

[visual jacinth]

Sweet, I'll roll my bonus dockets then

[turbid dock]

Yea, unless it affects your mobility with a melee weapon I think it is for the best

[ornate compass]

What's hit mass?

Ah, its the most useless stat for a powersord..

RIP

[lyric yarrow]

So for the Vet's 100% accuracy No ammo left thing... does the gun only have to get empty once n then i can switch to melee even if i keep getting bullets thru kills? or do i need to shoot these bullets too?

[rigid wasp]

afaik you have to have no ammo at the end of the mission

[turbid dock]

You will gain ammo via your coherency skill, so it might be better just to spend it all at the end during extraction

[lyric yarrow]

so not only do i have to hit every fucking shot on heresy, i have to use a shit weapon which lets me not support the team at all... If that was not enough i have to deal with ammo regeneration... I want to slap whatever idiot thought this was a good idea...

tis so freaking frustrating...

[unique sorrel]

How the hell do I do Friends will be Friends, when I got no friends

[arctic plover]

It isnt bad with bolter if you have your team support you in getting it.

[fallen turret]

Use a plasma gun and aim for only specials

[arctic plover]

This way you dont lose out on damage.

[arctic plover]

Also this

[fallen turret]

You can breeze through creeps with the power sword hehe

[zinc brook]

any good

[ashen depot]

from my understanding, buying legendary weapons isnt really worth it because traits take up part of your power score that would normally be placed into stats

so buying whites and then upgrading them is better

[nimble orchid]

Is it possible to rename my operatives?

[green hound]

no

[nimble orchid]

Rest in RIP GirthCertificate

One day

[iron sleet]

Did devs confirm that parts of the crafting system will not be available on launch ? In that case which parts is it ? Also where do I see that log ?

[signal prism]

Does the Toughness 100% replenish in coherency skill from ogryn apply only to the oger or to the Team or both ( confusing translation )

[north wolf]

For lasguns you want infernus.

[bleak bridge]

Someone wave a magic wand and give me an espionage mission? 🙂

[tribal quest]

Should I upgrade the blue oneor buy the purple one

[azure lily]

Dont waste special coins on that

[brittle marsh]

On a dagger, Do perks like '+15 dmg vs Flak Armoured Enemies' buff the damage of the bleed trait? Or is bleed damage always a constant no matter anything else

[neon aurora]

Anybody knows the max amount of wounds one can get from a curio ?

[foggy trench]

any idea of this ?

NdC 21 mission ?

[neon aurora]

C'est juste le niveau 21

[foggy trench]

ahhh

atteindre juste le nv ?

rien de plus

Serieux x)

[neon aurora]

Oui

[somber pewter]

Game really needs a little quality of life for the penances. Mostly knowing which mission types you have to do... i'm missing two mission types on malice and have no clue what they are lmao

[brittle marsh]

If you have been playing the past few days safe to assume Investigation and Espionage as they have been disabled for a few days now

But yeah I do agree there are a few challenges I wish had some extra info to do with them.

Best bet for this is to keep a little grid with characters and what level they have finished missions on yourself if you wanna keep track in notepad or something.. Until they eventually add more info.. If ever.

[terse abyss]

Does char height affect the hitbox? Anything official about that?

[naive flame]

It definitely does by my testing.

[brittle marsh]

I sure hope not because I made all my people as big as possible lmao

[strong ivy]

i would love to see an option to lock items in the vendor , so they wont disappear after 1h

[cedar mason]

the emperor has blessed me with a ridiculous number increase

[steel wing]

ayo , how good is this duel sword?

[dense temple]

Why is there another 2g update?

[untold phoenix]

read the #📢news-bulletin

[ashen canyon]

Any easy way to complete '' On overwatch '' complete a mission on malice or higher without taking any melee damage as sharpshooter

[untold phoenix]

Stay in the back and ask your team to cover you, alternatively you could play with friends who run melee classes and just ask them to protect you for the entire round

[ashen canyon]

ait

[untold phoenix]

Either way, it's gonna be a pain in the ass

[full loom]

Is every heresy and above mission endless horde?

[untold phoenix]

good luck

[ashen canyon]

could I kill myself off a ledge and make them finish?

haha

[untold phoenix]

lmao

[grave ocean]

Wait

That could work

Wait no nevermind

[naive flame]

What about using the Plasma gun to down yourself at spawn, and let your team do the mission?

Boring, but

[untold phoenix]

If you're down for long enough you'll eventually respawn so you'd have to do it multiple times throughout I'd guess?

Unless they just don't rez you

[untold phoenix]

It just might work

[gray geyser]

are the materials we can pick up, shared between the whole team?

[slender pasture]

Yes

[elfin ingot]

ok im going to be real. i dont understand the reason for this gun. you cant ADS with it, it has like a hip fire aim. it has a lot of ammo which is good but burns through it fast, doesnt do a lot of damage since its inaccurate. the Infantry Autogun is a far better choice in my opinion since you can ADS even with the horrendous recoil you get used to it and it hits harder.

[somber pewter]

it does do a lot of dmg though

[untold phoenix]

It makes you feel like rambo

[gray geyser]

Marbo

[elfin ingot]

not really, my Infantry autogun is more reliable at taken down specialist/elites.

[slender pasture]

Braced autogun is pretty good imo lol
Its good at cleaning up trash
You cant ADS yes but its fairly accurate when braced
Like not pinpoint when you're spraying but very tight spread

[untold phoenix]

Him too

[slender pasture]

Also kills specialists with ease just make sure to aim for the head

[onyx knot]

anyone know what rending does

[elfin ingot]

my autogun 3 shots elites. ;-;

[slender pasture]

Just like the lasgun, its not the best at penetrating armor tho

[tight cedar]

braced is fun and it shreds crowds and basically anything that gets close but not having any range really kills the guns overall effectiveness

[elfin ingot]

the only thing letting this down was the sprint roll.

[slender pasture]

Err idk what you guys' experience with the braced autogun is but in my experience its quite accurate although its harder to aim it since you dont go full ADS

[tight cedar]

ive got a very similar rolled agripinaa, imo the best veteran gun in the game

[elfin ingot]

burst fire with braced is accurate and close range it does demolition but i love being able to ADS properly so the Infantry autogun just feels better to me.

[quasi rampart]

behold the mighty zoomer

[grave ocean]

So is orange 450-500 the best you can get right now

[slender pasture]

Fair enough

Im not a braced autogun user myself but just wanted to give my experience using it so u have another perspective on it

[elfin ingot]

i have quite a fast target acquisition which essentially means i can lock onto 1 target to the next fairly fast so being able to ADS is good for me.

[somber pewter]

how is this???

should i get it

[rich smelt]

Reminder

[somber pewter]

whoa i think thats a tanith tattoo

[slender pasture]

Fair enough

I mostly play pubs so i like to use the kaentrel mkXII so i can clean up ranged enemies and specialists for my team in heresy and up

I swear playing pubs on those difficulties all the sharpshooters are running bolters or plasmaguns so as soon as a wave of gunners hit us, they all struggle to get anything done and we get overwhelmed

[stark sand]

@slender pasture pretty much my experience. I love to run Accatran and with the burn setup it can get really spicy.

My playstyle focuses on flanking as much as possible and pressuring the shooter squads/specials. I simply do not feel Bolt/Plasma (and while I love the Kantrael MG12, unfortunately that neither) lends itself to that style

[cold moon]

If my squad mates pick up Grimoires and Scriptures, but I do not, does that count to my contracts? Also, are the two tomes counted if the mission fails?

[stark sand]

Only the number of grims/scrips at the end of a successful mission count. Does not matter who actually picked it up. At least this is my experience

[cold moon]

Noticed tonight the tomes were not being accounted for sometimes and I check my contracts progress after each mission.

Hmmm fair enough

[mystic wyvern]

I'm assuming my overall gear rating is what determines the average gear rating for the gear the vendor sells?

[ashen canyon]

Do the body tattoos even matter if we cant be shirtless?

[ashen canyon]

no?

[mystic wyvern]

If so, if I want to use a weapon thats say 330 gearscore instead of a 400 gearscore weapon I dont like, will the gear in the shop be worst? Or does just having the 400 in my inventory influence it. (I could be completely off here, but nothing is explained 🙂 )

[fluid plover]

i just pulled 3 back to back curios legendaries from emperor gift

do we know what those rates are?

[quasi rampart]

300% Kappa

[gray geyser]

espionage missions are available on my map!

[tranquil grove]

I tried to do a heresy investigation and holy shit I forgot how much that mission suuuucks

And the horde density on the mission thanks to endless horde feels way worse because its all in really small quarters

[full loom]

I wanna know why all heresy missions are automatically endless horde

[pearl night]

What determines what rating weapons are generated with in the store?

[cobalt tartan]

From what people have mathed out, there's a base rating that's based off the combined stats of the weapon, then values for the boons and perks add on to that number. So the rating you see in the store is a combination of stats, boons, and perks.

But big number doesn't necessarily mean better, depending on how the stats are allocated and what perks it has.

[pearl night]

Sorry I mean like what makes better rated weapons available to you. Like at 30 how do I get gear with higher gear rating

[rigid wasp]

The braced autoguns get some of the most insane DPS in this game, and although you don't 'aim' it actually isn't that inaccurate at decent distances

big benefit is its so quick to shoot when swapping, unlike most lasguns and especially bolters

[cobalt tartan]

Ah, not too sure about that. Some people are saying it's like Vermintide 2 where it's based off the gear of your own equipment, while I've also heard that it's level dependent for what general band of power ratings are available and the rest is just RNG.

[sturdy sandal]

oh man, the 8%-10% dmg against x enemy type is bugged, all of them :/

[cobalt tartan]

I think the best way to actually get a higher rated weapon right now is to get a White weapon with good stats and rating and upgrade it.

[rigid wasp]

I really hope they get rid of the huge red skull on tagging enemies, just ruins the silhouette of the top of the tagged enemy

much better if it just had the red outline

[rich smelt]

@paper coral thos who prepurchase the game are going to recieve also this?

[paper coral]

yep

[rich smelt]

love you ❤️

[hard sand]

Is the game still going to be down today?

[paper coral]

yep

[rigid wasp]

all day or will i have an excuse to avoid working at work today?

[rich smelt]

The game will be down today? For maintenance I assume?

[patent sapphire]

going down in 7 hours for an indefinite amount of time

i think

well, until launch at the longest

[austere epoch]

wait the game is down?

oh nvm, i logged in

[tranquil grove]

So sick of endless horde. Just aint fun

[austere epoch]

in enjoy it if you have a good team

[tranquil grove]

Turns ranged encounters into serious chores

[jolly yoke]

What does the "Mk II" etc really mean

[austere epoch]

means "Mark 2"

[jolly yoke]

Are they different from Mk I?

[signal prism]

there is a difference in the fire mode between MK2 and MK5 at the ripper

[austere epoch]

chronologically, yes. In modern day terms a mark 2 is supposed to be an improvement or otherwise addition to the previos Mark, in this case, the mark one

[signal prism]

auto fire and burst but thats it i think saw it in on YT

[austere epoch]

in game terms, they just fire differently

[nimble solstice]

Houston, we have a problem here!

[stark sand]

Most weapons have these different "Marks", basically manufacturing branches. With each weapon, there are differences in damage, firing modes, stagger and so, and for melee weapons moveset differences also.

Some differences are more drastic than others

[jolly yoke]

Alright thanks guys

[proven escarp]

I can say this: The shorter Ogryn is much easier to aim down and melee things while being able to still see whats coming than the big one.

[north wolf]

Do you have screenshots of both staying in the same place looking at the same thing? Because I think the placement of your camera is unaffected by height setting.

[austere epoch]

that would be really interesting if it was

[slender onyx]

I know it is for human characters, min height and max height camera placement difference is big

But idk for Ogryns

[austere epoch]

oooook why am i suddenly disconnecting from the server a lot. This hasnt happened before.

[ocean flower]

Yeah, I have a much, much easier time hitting heads in melee on my taller characters (zealot, psyker) than my shorter ones (vet)

[spiral vault]

Any investigation or espionage missions up today?

[slender onyx]

Ye, there was before! Should be set in rotation

[tranquil grove]

heresy investigation is a fucking nightmare tbh

[old citrus]

So excited for the full game love you all except the heretics

[slender onyx]

What about the especially lovely heretics

[tranquil grove]

Have one person play scooby doo while everyone babysits them with an endless horde because every heresy mission is endless horde

[drifting lily]

Don't forget specials spawning floor above you and fucking with your audio.

[twin oasis]

is there a way to see which mission types I havent done on Malice yet?

[arctic plover]

servers are supposed to be down as of 5am

[spiral vault]

man one day my mission rotation will give me missions i actually need

[arctic plover]

Im sorry king. youll make it. we all will

[austere epoch]

5am today or 5am tomorrow?

[arctic plover]

if you are in a game you can finish it up, if not you are unable to reconnect

once you finish it kicks you to menu

[tribal wagon]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/pre-order-beta-entering-pre-launch-maintenance

[arctic plover]

as of now servers are down until 10am PST tomorrow morning they just posted a release time map in the tweets/sermons chat.

[tribal wagon]

I didn't play the beta. I just logged in and didn't choose a character. Will I still get the beta rewards?

[arctic plover]

Not sure to be honest.

[autumn sail]

What are the beta rewards?

[tribal wagon]

A Beta Company Flak helm (Size: XXXXXL).
A Recon Company Beta Helm and Psykana Collar
A Recon Company Beta Vanguard Helm
The Helm of the Devoted, bearing a Seal of Intolerance

[autumn sail]

niceee

[tribal wagon]

Is there a way to contact a dev here to be sure?

[burnt pendant]

Damnit. I just managed to actually get a full book run on a map I need for those awful weeklies. Oh well.

[gray geyser]

im still playing

[arctic plover]

I dont beleive they have a direct line into here. You may have to just wait and see. By the wording in the announcement it sounds like you have to have "played" and have some game time.

[arctic plover]

are you in a match right now? if so thats why. once you finish it will kick you to menu after xp screen.

[burnt pendant]

Well, upon finishing, it said server connection error and sent me to character selection, so I assume it wouldn't have reported.

I'm getting tired of always running the same mission to get those secondaries.

[arctic plover]

space em out yo. they are weekly's not daily's

unless you want some hot item in the shop, it will just sit there completed for a few days.

[burnt pendant]

Oh, question: Does the Preacher's Martyrdom Talent affect any weapon? It doesn't specify, but I would assume it means mainly melee?

[arctic plover]

I believe its mainly melee yeah.

[azure cove]

So when maintenence hits in a few hours how long will it be down? If anyone knows?

Oh nevermind it's underway right now :< so much for 1pm

[tribal wagon]

So the beta officially ended now right?

[burnt pendant]

It's not like I can chose when those missions will be available. I've gone 3 hours yesterday and could attempt it once - and then we failed because we got separated looking for the second grim.

[twilit linden]

It's 13:36 pm UTC right now. It's been 1 pm for a half an hour

[burnt pendant]

Mainly? I mean, +15 damage on a recon lasgun would be pretty significant. I'll assume it's melee until I learn otherwise.

[azure cove]

On their map thing it shows 1pm EST and it's 8:30am

[cobalt tartan]

The map is time to release I believe.

[azure cove]

Ah.

[twin oasis]

why do I get failed joining servers

[spice plank]

maintenance

[azure cove]

So many people in voice chat I thought the game was up still

[burnt pendant]

If you're in a match, you can finish it. I assume the game servers will keep running for a bit, just the rest of the infrastructure is shut down.

[cobalt tartan]

Pre-Order Beta is over.

But launch is tomorrow. (Well, 28 hours away)

[rare ledge]

So I have to wait till tomorrow to play now 😢

[twin oasis]

got my veteran helmet before shutdown so happy to wait 😄

[tribal wagon]

Wait, is that another exclusive item?

seems like I missed alot lol

[rich cobalt]

shouldn't be exclusive, penance cosmetics are just penance cosmetics

[tribal wagon]

I still I believe that I should be getting the beta rewards since I actually logged in tbh

I played the closed beta too, but idk if that counts

[dense pecan]

I can't wait for refunder to complain. I got myself some Popcorn already

[dreamy wren]

we get the beta loot if we played only in closed beta?

[dense pecan]

The announced one, no* (upps)

I think that is only pre-order beta*

[dreamy wren]

so for closed beta testing we don't get anything?

[dense pecan]

nope. I don't think so

[azure cove]

We get some helmets.

[winter pecan]

closed beta and pre launch beta are two separate things unfortunately

[azure cove]

Oh forgot there was a closed beta

[austere epoch]

since the servers are down until launch, i went ahead and made an Ogryn. His name is Grippa cause hes a hugger

[azure cove]

Wasn't there for that one

[winter pecan]

I was there for that one, but I probably won't be getting beta rewards anyway 🥲

[peak valve]

I wonder if there’s a big launch day patch and if they’ve ironed out the worst of the performance issues and crashes. Hope so!

[eternal bone]

Hope is a dangerous concept when dealing with Fatshark

[tribal wagon]

Man they should've listed the rewards before ending the beta

just like how the devs of Modern Warfare II did

[slender pasture]

I usually run the Camo Expert feat so i can snipe without too much pressure and combine that with Counterfire and the MkXII which can 1-2 shot gunners and you've got a setup that can easily dispatch a whole wave of gunners before your Volley Fire even finishes

Huge plus as well that the Kantrael series of Lasguns have huge mag sizes and reserve ammo pools making them very ammo efficient combined with the fact they 1-2 shot gunners and lightly armored specials

[dreamy wren]

there is a chance to get the loot if I pre order the game now?

[rustic arrow]

Will we see anything special for hitting level 30 prior to full launch? You know you want to give us a flossing ogryn trinket or something

[slender pasture]

"Thank you all for jumping in and playing Warhammer 40,000: Darktide during the Pre-Launch Beta. During the past two weeks of battle testing the experience, many of you were a big part of the process in helping identify and help fix many issues.

As a way of showing our gratitude, we would like to give all players that played the beta a bespoke set of headgear. This will include the following:
A Beta Company Flak helm (Size: XXXXXL).
A Recon Company Beta Helm and Psykana Collar
A Recon Company Beta Vanguard Helm
The Helm of the Devoted, bearing a Seal of Intolerance"

Copy pasted from the announcement on the game page

[tribal wagon]

I went ahead and submitted a ticket to them. Hopefully logging in is considered to be "playing"

[winter pecan]

I feel like they should've just included it in the pre-order bonuses

I went ahead and upgraded to imperial anyway so I don't look like garbage

[tribal wagon]

Don't wanna sound butthurt, but this ain't fair man

I pre ordered the game 3 days ago and excited to play the beta

[median moon]

denied

I knew it was going down for maintenance I just didnt realise it was 30 hour maintenance

[covert crown]

<@&735928989146939404> @CM as always thank you fatshark for a awesome beta. Manage to get 77 hours in to it before the game even was realised. Looking forward tomorrow on game drop to see what more things are in wait. (I know this is the wrong channel. But here it's a chance to been seen by the mods/Devs competed to general chat )

[visual jacinth]

Zugzug enjoy smashing tiny pox walkers to bits. Good fun. Good job boss.

[deft juniper]

Meliota was happy to serve the God-Emperor for whatever amount of time was allowed 🙇‍♀️

[neon aurora]

And all my characters can't wait to serve the emperor even more tomorrow

[tribal wagon]

They specified that the beta will end at 19:00 UTC. It’s 15:28 UTC now

[median moon]

oh so its not over?

[tribal wagon]

I’m guessing it is since they already started their pre-launch maintenance

[thick palm]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3485252139473663005 This may help clear it up.

[tribal wagon]

Plus if you start the launcher, you’ll see that there is more than 24 hours left for the maintenance to stop meaning that it’ll last till launch

[median moon]

ENDING though

[slow crest]

No they said that the beta ends at 13.00 UTC (which it did) and they maintenance would be onging until 18:00 UTC tomorrow when the game launches.

[median moon]

not ENDED lol

I know its over like it was just rough realizing

Cant help but want to check the shop for weapons every hour still

[slow crest]

Tell me about it, I'm starting a new job on thursday and was hoping to play some today at least.

[tribal wagon]

It must've been a new post then, because this was my source

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3467237196841875532

[slow crest]

Was great for keeping my mind occupied.

Yeah it's in the new post that someone linked just above.

[tribal wagon]

except that the post was posted right before the maintenance lol

Like before 4 minutes if I'm not mistaken

this is what they said before

[slow crest]

Ah right so they did change it.

[patent sapphire]

they moved it up 6 hours

[carmine granite]

we have know about downtime for weeks

[slow crest]

Seems a few things didn't go wholly as planned during the beta. But I'm glad we at least get to keep our progress and I'm hoping they can use the time to prepare better for launch.

I'm betting it's gonna be rough either way though.

[carmine granite]

What did not go as planned ?

I think they got exactly what they wanted from the beta test. Implementing and fixing all issues will be an on going thing groing forward

[patent sapphire]

yeah finding about about the maps that were causing crashes is a big W for the beta

[slow crest]

There were some issues with releasing maps during the beta, and they even had to remove some of them from the rotation.

I don't envy them, they are probably working like crazy to get as much stuff working as possible for the launch.

It's gonna have issues, but I'm gonna enjoy it for what it is and trust in that they fix it a long the way.

That's my take at least.

[spiral goblet]

Yeah, it seemed like they had more issues with map rollout than they expected, but it's good it was in the beta. I hope they're not crunching too hard.

[onyx iron]

So uh... 1900 UTC downtime no longer applies, huh

And it's just gonna be down til tomorrow

[halcyon lava]

Pls let us know what they respond with

[patent sapphire]

yea

[carmine granite]

but you did not play. Then you should not get any reward. Simple

[median moon]

After the last couple of patches I started crashing in the Mourningstar which had never happened before lol

[tribal wagon]

Yup. That's unfortunate

[tribal wagon]

For sure man

[tribal wagon]

They didn't warn us about ending the beta earlier. If they stuck with the schedule, then we should be able to play right now since it's not 19:00 UTC yet

[barren mica]

yea, my 3080ti is heating up through the roofs in this game

even with frame capped at 120

[fathom spruce]

Do you guys prefer Veterans or Psykers at higher difficulties? I like them both but wondering which one is better. I'm leaning towards Psyker because of how fast they deal with armored enemies, and they kind of do Veteran's elite killing job just as fast.

[tribal wagon]

Happy to confirm that you'll still get them thanks to god! The team is awesome man. Here's what they said

Hi XXXXX,

Thanks for reaching out.

I've queried this internally and I'm happy to confirm that all players who logged in during the beta period will receive the beta rewards.

Though you didn't play in missions during the beta, you will still receive the cosmetics because you logged in 🙂

If you have any issue with the cosmetics not being awarded for any reason, then please reach out to us and we'll ensure they are sorted out for you!
Lev - Community Support

[barren mica]

that means if I logged yesterday ill get rewards?

[tribal wagon]

Yes. If you logged in anytime as long as the beta is still live

[lean lance]

Honestly Psykers are outperformed on Heresy and Damnation, by Vets.

[topaz pewter]

Does anyone know if it is planned to be able to lock my raid party? I don't want to play with strangers. I want to play me + my friend, only.

[fathom spruce]

Oh are they? Is it because they just are too squishy and the brain burst is too slow?

Oh. Grenades.

[onyx knot]

you guys think we get the Melta gun on release?

[lean lance]

Exactly this. Yup. Vets is way more efficient. Not saying that Psyks cant roll in a team on those difficulties. But you're better off running a Lightning staff to stagger Ragers or Pox bursters, to help maintain distance

[fathom spruce]

Alright. Gonna stick to mastering Veteran when the game gets released. Thanks for helping me!

[slow crest]

As with most games play what you enjoy the most, there will be balance passes that changes what's good and bad.

We also don't know how the beta differs from the launch version.

[wet bloom]

I play counterfire vet and love psyker personally since im slow on taking out armor

if they run electric staff and can stop bursters too thats a cherry ontop since I dont have to waste my ability to find them

[lean lance]

As Phol below said, play whatever you feel is the most fun. 🙂

And have a good time

[fathom spruce]

They're both fun. But I don't have four arms to play both at the same time.

[halcyon lava]

fatshark goated

[lime imp]

Psyker prolly gonna get buffed like crazy going off what ppl are complaining about on the official forums lol

But bb is useless in 4/5 content and all of the staffs are v undertuned for those difficulties as well

[echo root]

Fatshark is a company that's both amazing and yet sometimes weird too with how long they let some bugs last in their games x)

[lime imp]

Thats just European devs

Eurojank bby

[echo root]

Yeah, the American ones give you 1/4th of a game x)

[lime imp]

They chunk out content for dlc

Eurodevs have to relearn the same lessons every game

Like cool the vt2 ui is finall pretty good time to throw that in the trash and make the ui shit again for DT

[echo root]

I do agree there's some things that they should be knowing how to do and yet they made the mistakes here anyway but I guess it just has to do with them having a bigger team and this project probably being their biggest yet. Not to mention, it's clear they had issues during development so they might've not been able to finetune or work out everything they wanted

[lime imp]

You arent being paid to run pr no need to defend them lol

[echo root]

For example I feel the Ogryn talents really should've been a bit more interesting? Like, there's some good options for sure but I can't help but look over at VT2 footknight (I know they are not exactly the same, but there are similarities to their role and playstyle) and feel like they dropped the ball on the Ogryn Skullbreaker talents

Feels like no lesson learned on this talent tree

[halcyon cradle]

hello! is there any chance to get weapon stats explanation info? I cant see any difference between two guns with same type but different "damage" bars. Sorry if it might be listed in FAQ

[lime imp]

No just wait till a modder makes a better ui for FS to steal

[echo root]

There's vids that explain what the stats do and how they work if you want one

[lime imp]

Some folks keep a ruler handy to compare stat bars lmao

[haughty umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[halcyon cradle]

big thanks!

[echo root]

That is the vid I was gonna suggest

[nocturne oracle]

chat rn

[regal notch]

everything is outperformed by Vets. They are tougher than ogryn, kill elites better than psykers, and kill trash better than preachers.

[nocturne oracle]

Not for long!

[nocturne oracle]

shit i thought i was in general again sorry

[raw sage]

I'm interested to see if there's a balance pass going on when we go live

[silent compass]

I dunno. As a 25 Psyker I feel very effective on Heresy. Haven't tried Damnation on this character, yet.

[burnt pendant]

The Staves generally work (though that's mostly their charged attack). Their feats are thoroughly meh at times.
Soulblaze needs a balancing pass, as does Brain Burst.

[proper smelt]

THey should hcange the bar charts to candlestick charts

[burnt pendant]

Why not actual candles? when you use a weapon it slowly burns down?
That said, I know what you mean. I'd prefer simple numbers, why the peril display of all things was changed to a number, while everything else wasn't, is one of the mysteries of FS game design.

[silent compass]

As time goes on I kind of understand the bar, since some things aren't the easiest to display in numbers, or in a tiny tooltip. It also makes comparisons between the min/max easier, as well as making it more accessible to new players and people who don't like numbers.

That being said, I still want a damn tooltip.

[craggy solar]

They can still just display a 0 to 100 number instead of or on top of the bars just to make it more easily comparable between guns

[silent compass]

While that's fair, if you can barely tell the difference on the bar, do you think it'd make a difference in game?

[craggy solar]

while the actual gameplay difference might be minor I still want to be able to compare without having to screenshot and lay screenshots on top of each other

make it an option to enable it for all I care if people prefer to only have bars that's fair

[silent compass]

yeah

maybe as something as simple as a red or green shading for the difference

i mean if you're going to go all out on bars, make it comfortable

[eternal bone]

They've already said they will be changing the stats to be "more detailed"

now we just have to see if they actually make it worse or not

never count out Fatshark when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[azure lily]

how about they give us % and bar

instead of just a fucking bar and force us to calculate pixels to see how big it is

[eternal bone]

literally all they have to do is show us the actual hard numbers with a clear description of what a stat actually does

the armory mod in VT2 did this, it's not rocket surgery

[burnt pendant]

For comparison, I'd also be content with the bars having a highlighted coloured section that shows us the difference between two pieces of equipment, so I can more easily see what's better at what.
And, of course, sometimes it might help people to have an explanation of what a bar does. Like "mobility", or even better, "defense". Sure, I can go online and look it up, but you can't expect the common player to regularly do so.

[crimson fable]

Well, this is a new thing... Rocket surgery... Are you a Mechanicus fan?

[eternal bone]

That would be better but that still wouldn't be good as a bar doesn't actually tell you what the difference is

it shows you there's a difference, but what difference

Again, the solution here is very simple. Whether they will do the simple thing or not remains to be seen.

[burnt pendant]

Well, sure, a number from 1 to 100 would be nice. I still want that. But I can understand that they don't show us exactly what a stat does there in the interface - that would be information overload for most players.
I just want to be able to see it somewhere.

[eternal bone]

Look, when you've got normies complaining about how stupid the stats are on reddit and discord, the argument that it would be "information overload" really doesn't strike me as accurate.

and I don't tend to base my design choices on idiots

[burnt pendant]

Showing everything tends to confuse people, who really just want to go by feel.
Have you seen the tables showing power ratios on VT2 weapons? That's not what the average player wants to see when he asks for "stats".

[shrewd pendant]

any word on when servers go back up?

[reef hearth]

As far as I understand it's down till release

[shrewd pendant]

WHAT

Get me the president on the phone right now, this is an outrage

[grave heart]

the game launcher says they are down for 24hrs

it has a timer on it

[reef hearth]

Yea that timer runs out it's the full launch I believe

[rigid wasp]

Any pro strats on dodging hounds? I know you can push them but I guess I never time it right

[eternal bone]

No, as they're incredibly jank and inconsistent.

[abstract jolt]

use side dodge with holding ctrl and heavy melee attack when he coming for jump

[muted geyser]

I haven't been able to do it consistently, but when I do, I feel like a god

[lime imp]

dodgeslide as they jump at you

if you can always slide out of a dodge just to shrink your hurtbox and avoid any shots flying your way

good habit to get into

[late pond]

Does anyone know why the game looks like this

[bright mural]

always dodge left or right, turn 90 degrees in the direction of the dog and push as you dodge

[late pond]

the black squares

it also looks like from a distance that things are very blurry

[slow crest]

Do you have an amd-card? I saw something about people with amd-cards reporting something similar.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z6owck/bad_graphical_artifacts_on_amd_6900xt/ this is where it was mentioned by others.

[normal tendon]

Servers are down until launch right?

[drifting lily]

Ye

[craggy trout]

anyone keep getting an signin error?

[normal tendon]

Servers

Down

[craggy trout]

ah ok

[raw sage]

Do we know if there's going to be a balance patch on launch?

Or full list of weapons?

We're also launching without full crafting? Christ, FS needs to extend this closed beta lol

Not treat launch like one

[wanton estuary]

i wanna play now! give gam

give gam (thank you) and later giv crafting (thank you)

is ok that the game probably should have aimed for release in another 6 months. it'll get there. game fun now though

[raw sage]

agreed

[cobalt tartan]

While the game definitely needs more work, I'm just happy to get to play it.

[analog violet]

krund

[noble hemlock]

How do you emote or say thanks?

Is there a way? I know people thank me

[wanton estuary]

middle mouse button press and hold brings up a wheel

the bottom of the wheel is thanks

[noble hemlock]

Ty

[raw sage]

I want a hello

lol

[wanton estuary]

i want a hello but more importantly a FOR THE EMPERAH button

[raw sage]

Kinda wish DT had the customizability of Aliens: Fireteam Elite, tbh

The talent tree and weapons just feels so.. shallow.

[somber pewter]

ye but in aliens fireteam the in game models dont matter as much since you dont have true ads. but they do have a kinda cool "skill tree"

not sure what youd call it in fireteam so i just used skill tree

[hard goblet]

Gotta meet those winter quarterly deadlines for investor reports.

[raw sage]

Makes sense though, game was supposed to launch much earlier than this

Probs couldn't delay launch longer

[hard goblet]

It's why you see so many patches/launches right before December.

[raw sage]

yeah

[hard goblet]

Push a game out half baked, fix it later. Money's already pocketed and promises can be broken after the refund window's gone.

[serene latch]

why is Darktide beta client downloading 6gb patch if the beta is over

[raw sage]

because that might be the day 0 patch

with all the rest of the content

[hard goblet]

Or the patch they pushed last night at around 3:23AM CST.

[raw sage]

Day -0.5 patch 😄

[proper smelt]

Yeah CoD style attachments would be cool

Bayonet vs torch vs scope

[raw sage]

I think they said attachments were out right?

Was one of the original features that got axed

[proper smelt]

Sadly

I want more dressup options

Right now the silhouettes stay the same even though they add more stuff on top and change the color

[proper smelt]

The alternative is make people wait another 3-6 months

I'd rather play the beta than wait more

It's not like they make more money by going over budget over time

It just happens

Otherwise just pretend the game was delayed abs pixk it up on sale in a year

Which is what I usually do

[silver ridge]

Idk I’ve already put 80 hours into it and enjoyed my time even with features missing

The core gameplay loop is enjoyable for me

[proper smelt]

I actually rarely buy games at launch

[raw sage]

The problem is once they launch they exposed themselves to critics and reviews

Which do impact a game's sales

[proper smelt]

Well they impact compensation too

[raw sage]

yep

So IMO they should've held off buttt

[proper smelt]

They look at stupid metrics like metascore and first month sales

Not lifetime earnings

Nah the game is almost feature complete

[wispy venture]

Just chill and see how much content you can enjoy untill you get bored enough to miss anything not ready yet 😉

[raw sage]

Oh I'm still gonna play the shit out of it

[proper smelt]

I'm enjoying playing and haven't gotten sick of it yet

[raw sage]

As long as I don't think of it as any sort of progression-based game, and rather just a hack and slash

[proper smelt]

Delaying it again wouldn't be worth it imo

[raw sage]

It's pretty fun

[proper smelt]

And I'm trying not to max level or anything like that

[raw sage]

Man, I just watched the launch trailer, did they record that with all the graphics toys turned off?

[proper smelt]

If they add more missions at launch the variety should be good

I think they promised 4 more

[raw sage]

god I love the darktide video captions

[cobalt tartan]

Presumably the Throneside area as well.

[raw sage]

"bones crunch" "body cracks"

[hard goblet]

I remember when Fatshark promised to not release it until it was ready. But that was years ago so I suppose it's void. Standards and accountability are less important than shareholder demands.

[cobalt tartan]

Right now there's three missions per zone except for The Hourglass, we're due 3 more in the launch week so maybe two more missions in The Hourglass and one in Throneside?

[raw sage]

What exactly constitutes a "zone"?

The maps have largely looked pretty different for me

[hard goblet]

Guess I'll have to wait through December to be able to evaluate the progression system since I have to wait for crafting to be rolled out.

[hard goblet]

Missions use a limited number of maps with different starting and end points.

Multiple missions take place in the same zone, just in different parts of it.

[raw sage]

Huh, am I just blind and have never noticed any map re-use?

😆

[cobalt tartan]

Missions are split up into zones and most missions in one zone have some overlapping rooms/shared tiles.

[hard goblet]

You'll notice familiar areas.

[raw sage]

... I think I'm blind.

Lol

[hard goblet]

Chasm Station for example.

[raw sage]

Is that shared with Chasm Logistratum?

[hard goblet]

Yes.

[raw sage]

Which parts overlap?

[cobalt tartan]

With the way the missions are, it might even be possible that they're not just overlapping tiles and each zone can be put together into one big map.

[hard goblet]

Hab Dreyko is also on that map, though its entrance is sealed.

The central bridge walk with the archway in the middle and offset bunkers on the ends.

[cobalt tartan]

In either Hab Dreyko or Chasm Logistratum, you can see the marketplace you splice the train schedule at in Chasm Station

[hard goblet]

That too. Dialogue points that out.

[raw sage]

Huh, neat.

[hard goblet]

That you're above the marketplace.