gameplay-help

[ashen ingot]

you never said stunned, either

[unique forge]

holy shit dude

[high cairn]

I’m just trying to get clarity.

[ashen ingot]

anyway who cares

[polar plover]

I think I missed part of the conversation

[unique forge]

i do. you two just keep arguing with me for some reason

[polar plover]

Moving quick

[tawdry sandal]

Yeah I was really confused when I would pull out my Bolger to reload and it would rack before reloading and after

[harsh path]

Mechanicus safety feature. It automatically de-cocks when subjected to G forces over a certain limit. It prevents you from blowing your neighbour's dog to hell when dropped.

There, now there's a lore reason.

[high cairn]

Is that actually lore accurate 😂

[unique forge]

i'd accept this

[eternal bone]

If you wanted a safety mechanism you'd just have a sear disconnect, like real modern firearms do.

which doesn't require the gun to be "uncocked"

don't invoke my firearms autism I will go deep

[unique forge]

uh oh guys, crusader knows weapon platforms as well

get em

better argue with him for 10 minutes

[high cairn]

I’d like to point out, you’re complaining about logic in a place where literal green fungus monsters paint red on objects to make them faster and build space faring ships out of scraps and rubble

[eternal bone]

let me grab my red bull I'm ready to get banned

[coarse saffron]

+++incense_Omnissiah=Dmgonimpact

[unique forge]

hahaha

[harsh path]

I'm filthy euroscum, we aren't allowed guns to play with 😦

[unique forge]

you'd like to point out something unrelated?

why do you keep talking about orks?

[high cairn]

I’d like to point out that the universe never made sense, and wdym keep, it’s the first time I mentioned it

[sacred shadow]

Quick question, is Investigation mission type in current rotation on the EU one? (or are all servers the same?)

[coarse saffron]

We don't know. not seen it. Good luck 🙂

[unique forge]

i think it out of rotation at the moment, few people mentioned it and i havent seen it in a couple days?

[sacred shadow]

Ah... a shame

It's my last mission type for penance too haha

[wispy fractal]

Never saw it once since I started over the weekend at least

[sacred shadow]

Yeah hence I tried asking in here instead. Thanks for confirming it guys

[unique forge]

yeah, sorry we can't confirm 100%

[proud jungle]

Does anyone know what causes the pysker lighting staff to apply the dot?

[digital plume]

darktide dev we need a respone emperor grace us

[coarse saffron]

Nothing as far as I know

[bright plume]

Is there a way to make a lobby without bots?

[coarse saffron]

A blessing maybe?

[high cairn]

Nope

Besides having 4 players

[proud jungle]

I've had the dot apply on multiple different stats, just not consistently, I'm assuming crit. But I was curious if anyone knew for sure

[proud jungle]

Not currently, it's coming after launch

[hollow wharf]

how do you complete Just a Flesh Wound? git gud? that seems ridiculously hard lol

[eternal bone]

idk which one that is but chances are it's just some poorly designed bullshit like alot of the other penances

[high cairn]

Remind me which one that is

[hollow wharf]

the one where you do a heresy or higher mission within 10 minutes with only 1 wound remaining 75% of the time

[high cairn]

You cheat

[polar plover]

Unrelated: I have a lvl 30 zealot but started leveling Ogryn. Lvl 12 or so now. What’s the best way not to be an Bullet sponge for me team, specifically with match made pugs. In tight spaces I put my back against the wall and swing at the door frame so I’m not blocking the thing. And I try to hug a wall when moving. But what do you guys think.

[hollow wharf]

how so? because that seems so sweaty that ill never be able to do it legit and i need me helmet

[eternal bone]

So you have to get downed once and then run the mission in less than 10 minutes?

[cerulean pelican]

how long does 'one after another' vet feat reload boost last?

[eternal bone]

gee I sure to love penances that encourage people to play like idiots :^)

[high cairn]

You can’t beat a Heresy Mission in 10min. People were able to beat it with an exploit via running a Heresy mission, surviving for like 5 min then dying.

[hollow wharf]

yeah pretty much

[high cairn]

Because the penance counted a failed mission as complete for some reason

[hollow wharf]

is that still doable?

[eternal bone]

half of the penances encourage people to play like complete morons and the other half are borderline/actually impossible

[high cairn]

Nah just this one is actually impossible without the exploit

[hollow wharf]

i normally dont like to cheese things like that but thats just absolutely bonkers

[feral gust]

I don't understand what Collateral is.

[high cairn]

The rest just require a 4 stack

[polar plover]

Shooting through enemy

[digital plume]

anyone figure out the fastest way to level up yet?

[high cairn]

Ye you’ll have to wait til release and see what strats and better gear come out if you wanna do it legit

[rapid ermine]

95% of the penances are just straight up "Ok this time you are going to grief those poor random fucks like this!"

[unique forge]

everyone that i've seen that has it quickplayed into a game at the end

[wispy fractal]

Hitting multiple targets with one bullet

[high cairn]

Get a dagger, run difficulty 1s

[cursive citrus]

oh lovely, all heresy missions STILL have the unending horde bug

[hollow wharf]

but theyd still have to get downed once somehow

[high cairn]

Or just come in with reduced HP

[unique forge]

yeah, they just run into some mobs

[digital plume]

is a monstrosisty a boss?

[unique forge]

yep

[high cairn]

Weird things happen when you take over a bots body

[hollow wharf]

ill have to figure it out later when i can get on, thats an insane achievement, theyll prob end up changing it eventually

[unique forge]

also the big slug and yogurt monster

[digital plume]

holy crap how r u suppose to do the psyker penace then

[high cairn]

A 4 stack and patience

[high cairn]

I’m not sure if the exploit still works or not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wispy fractal]

In my limited experience that's honestly about the most you can do. If you are consciously trying to avoid blocking lines of fire you are already doing pretty good.

You can also just push up when you have openings to do so, if you aren't going to get crossfired horribly using your dash as a gap closer to lock down ranged mobs isn't always a bad idea.

[silver ridge]

As of yesterday I had one zealot beg everyone to leave or die so he could get it. So it was still working yesterday

[high cairn]

Ah

[eternal bone]

Don't stand in front of them and go kill things. If you're killing things and someone complains about you blocking shots then they're a moron, as they should simply shoot at something else.

[digital plume]

what zealot exploit r yall talkin about?

wait how do u complete a heresy mission in 10 minutes level 3 missions take at least 20

[rapid ermine]

Sonic mode activated

[feral gust]

Which one? (collateral or damage?)
I consecrated the trait (hence the higher rating.. and I would do it again).

[void plaza]

complete =/= win

[eternal bone]

literally ignore the stat bars until they're changed to actually be representative of something

you're better off trying to decipher hieroglyphics

[paper holly]

The stat bars do represent something though, no? Didn't J_Sat drop a whole half hour lecture on the subject?

[polar plover]

Thanks! No one has complained yet, but that’s something I noticed playing with other ogryn’s. We’ll be at a choke and their in front tanking and a sniper or flamer will appear and instead of collapsing or covering they’ll be in the way of the vet trying to head hunt

[feral gust]

WeaponTypes are identical.
Only the stats bars are different.

[sly bane]

Stuck with a 7/7 vantage point that won't 'complete.. anyone else?

[eternal bone]

They represent things, and the degree to which they changed the things they represent is entirely arbitrary

[slow fog]

OK so apparently level 14 is when veterans git gud

[eternal bone]

get out your calipers I suppose if you want to compare things

[digital plume]

for the just a flesh wound penace do i need to have 1 wound or do all my bars need to be wounds except 1

[amber dagger]

Don't forget you have to be at 1 wound remaining for >75% of the time.

[hard goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[high cairn]

They do but it’s not understood how much they affect the gameplay

[rapid ermine]

Weapon base = the stats | The bars on represent the value on of the base

[slow fog]

Cause its been kinda painful so far

14 is when vet gets the powersword and, what I assume is the good recon lasgun (the one I currently have is ehhhh at best)

[digital plume]

can someone help me do the just a flesh wound penance 😦

[eternal bone]

If an ogryn is literally just standing in the way then they're being stupid. If an ogryn is blocking a shot because they're actively engaged in melee for example then the ogryn isn't doing anything wrong and everyone else should adjust.

[amber dagger]

The 'slow' firing recon?

[paper holly]

@feral gust I think the green will be stronger than the Blue. The green is showing 319 with the blue at 335. They gain power off of weapon base + passives + traits so the blue is only really higher because it has a trait. I think the blue having such a low value for damage will most likely underperform compared to the green

[inland pier]

is ''Wound'' a health bar?

[high cairn]

Yes

[slow fog]

Hard to say, I've only used one and it seems to shoot pretty fast with basically zero recoil

[inland pier]

thank you

[digital plume]

so i have to have 1 health bar for 75% of the time then die?

[slow fog]

It's a segment of your healthbar yeah

[digital plume]

or fail the mission

[amber dagger]

Each section of your healthbar is a 'wound' which means how many times you can be knocked down before insta-death

[high cairn]

Yes

[paper holly]

The sections of health. It's giving you more chances to down before you're 'Black and White'/ just die instantly. It's related to corruption

[feral gust]

I consecrated the trait .. which I will do again .. just asking about the bars....
I suppose it's whether you expect to snipe or fire into hordes

[amber dagger]

There's a couple versions of the Recon rifle, think the first one is the fast firing version but there's another that unlocks which is half fire-rate but twice the damage and same ammo count

[slow fog]

Yeah basically each time you go down one of those segments gets filled with corruption, so if it is more heavily divided via extra wounds, each down has less impact. E.g. two wounds means if you go down, you just lost half your health, if you have 5 wounds, you only lose 20%

[digital plume]

how can i find a group to help me with just a flesh wound penace

[eternal bone]

make friends

very difficult process

[slow fog]

OK yeah for how much people were saying the recon las rules, I've found it prettttty tepid. The XII seems much better. Could just be that I have a low level item

[high wyvern]

Anyone wanna help me complete the cliffhanger penance?

[digital plume]

damn that's the hardest penance ive heard all day

[high cairn]

#lfg

[ocean axle]

Is there a particularly good spot to try for the Ogryn 100 enemy charge penance? And does it necessarily need the extra distance feat to get it?

[high wyvern]

I would do it on my own, but this just makes my morale drop through the floor

[eternal bone]

It doesn't necessarily need it, but it certainly helps.

[amber dagger]

It's great for trash mobs and headshooting things but only in bursts before the recoil starts going nuts

[still glen]

They should change the penances so that it's a total not all at once.

[quasi rampart]

what kinda blessings should I be looking for in a MG XII?

[amber dagger]

The psyker tasks are cancer...

[still glen]

And then just redo the dumb ones like 'psyker solo a monster'

[high wyvern]

Yup

[next pilot]

Hello, sorry if it got asked already, but do I need to buy the highest gearscore in the shop in order to have better gear next times? For example I got a 415 rating blue rifle in the store right now which is higher than my 412 rating staff. Even though I don't need that rifle, do I need to buy to have better stuff available next times??? Or it's completely unrelated?

[slow fog]

Oh actually that reminds me, I assume that other people are getting the bug (I assume) where if you're using a semi auto las that it will occassionally shoot like 3 times and go super wonky with its aim?

[warm snow]

so ill just ask again do you guys think this is worth upgrading to orange or should I just wait for a better drop/melk gun?

[high wyvern]

I had a guy throw my penance today because "he didn't want to sacrifice the mission"

I asked beforehand, the ogryn and the other guy agreed to help

[amber dagger]

It seems to help increase the window the shop can refresh to.

[high wyvern]

And when we finally had a horde on that chasm bridge, he proceeded to yeet a grenade into the group

[slow fog]

I don't THINK this is the case - unless they've changed things. I had a 400 staff and force sword as my highest gear in those slots and had 475s turn up in the mark store

[deep jungle]

anyone know which map is D-17? i cant find the map for weekly

[slow fog]

I would reroll map specific quests

[paper holly]

If I can translate, you're asking if Rating of items in your inventory that are not equipped raised the max Rating that appears in shop?

[slow fog]

They aren't always in rotation

[next pilot]

Who's mark?

[deep jungle]

i cant reroll the quest for some reason

[amber dagger]

The items in the shop are sort of random inside the invisible gear rating window.

[next pilot]

Yes!

[polar plover]

I understand. Thanks for the input! I have never played a Tide game before so I’m still learning some of the enemy types, mechanics and how the other classes work. So I do appreciate it man.

[young mulch]

I think this is ok? the scriptures I'm not sure about

[high cairn]

You’ll be fiiiiiine

[eternal bone]

The scriptures would be the one to replace, the rest are easily achieved through normal play.

[amber dagger]

I swear I've shot mobs THRU a teammate, even though the blue hit indicator flashed.

[barren grove]

Any advice for getting the grenade pennance done?

[high cairn]

Which Grenade penance

[paper holly]

So to clarify for everyone, having Higher Rated items in your inventory than you have equipped DOES NOT influence the rating that the Shop repopulates with?

[slow fog]

which one?

Vet or zealot?

[barren grove]

The one for the helmet. The three in one without bouncing

[slow fog]

Or ogryn come to think of it

[ocean osprey]

does anyone know if Zealot heresy penance is still doable without completing the mission?

[slow fog]

use the quick throw and GO PRACTICE IN PSYKHANIUM

[barren grove]

Vet

[high cairn]

The one for the armor? Ye it should still be

[amber dagger]

Look for any map with a large open area with a downward path, then chunk the grenade on a high arc towards stationary enemies.

[slow fog]

Seriously, it is genuinely very easy once you practice it

[ocean osprey]

yeah i was kinda wondering if veterans worked the same

[barren grove]

Quick throw? What's that?

[paper holly]

No one answering me 😞

[high cairn]

It does affect it up to 400 iirc

[amber dagger]

Left click but don't hold

[slow fog]

Just LMB, dont aim. If you get the green line showing your throw path you're doing it wrong

tap LMB

[barren grove]

I use controller.

[high cairn]

Then tap it

[slow fog]

Its a much shorter range, much shorter throw

[barren grove]

oh okay.

[amber dagger]

It does, at least to my experience

[barren grove]

Thanks guys.

[slow fog]

Seriously though, go practice in the psykhanium

[high cairn]

The Zealot one is a lot more fun/cool imo

[amber dagger]

That's the alternate throw

[high cairn]

Stun a sniper from 40m with a stun grenade :p

[slow fog]

Oh true the zealot has two grenade penances

[sick cobalt]

I did it on damnation like 10 hours ago ao probably yeah

[barren grove]

Need to get my poor Kruber hat. Kruber is not happy without a hat.

[slow fog]

The kill 50 stunned boiz is easy peasy if you used the bug haha

[amber dagger]

The second one, *and kill 50 mobs, is borked and needs +4 missions

[high cairn]

Bug?

[slow fog]

OK so zealot bug

Currently the combat knife has a blessing called lacerate

It applies bleed on non weakpoint hits

[high cairn]

Ah I got it

I run it

😂

[slow fog]

But it applies to ALL hits, not just knife hits

[high cairn]

Or wait do you mean with Haymaker?

[amber dagger]

Not really a bug, unless the bleed is supposed to stop

[slow fog]

Meaning your stun grenades also apply bleed

Each time they hit

So

[amber dagger]

Oh.. iddn't know that

[slow fog]

Like 50 bleeds

[high cairn]

LMAO

[slow fog]

Also bleed is a damage source

So

[amber dagger]

so just stack the 3 nades you have

[slow fog]

Bleed triggers more bleed

[high cairn]

Dano you know about Haymaker and Bleed tho right?

[bright mural]

lol that is so broken

[slow fog]

Meaning if you hit literally anything while you have the knife equipped, it will eventually die

You can even bonk bulwarks shields and they die I think

[high cairn]

Haymaker is the +x% chance to instantly kill an enemy on hit, stacks to 5. Thing is, it’ll proc off bleed hits too.

Only works on human sized enemies but

👀

[slow fog]

Oh shid I need to get that

[high cairn]

Literally can nuke a horde

[slow fog]

Itll help with the shitty full heal penance

[high cairn]

Yeeeeee the two I see are Lacerate with Haymaker or Mercy Killing

[high cairn]

The full heal is easy, get a GIANT HORDE, get low, dump a bolter into the crowd

The splash damage will heal you up too

[slow fog]

Yeah honestly I tried doing it with a knife a bunch of times and I've managed to get like 94%

But I think I just need to use an evi

Problem is if you get literally a single point of corruption you're boned

[deep jungle]

is this map released yet?

[high cairn]

TRUE

[slow fog]

I kept getting into the perfect situation and a burster will ruin it, or a mutant will come and stunlock me

[high cairn]

Yeah it’s probably just not on rotation

[slow fog]

Had me tilted honestly. I just said I'd do it organically eventually

[deep jungle]

ok

[slow fog]

Now I have my zealot at 30

Just a matter of playing Heresy

[high cairn]

You could use bombs and canisters to lower your HP artificially

[slow fog]

And using the right talents

Yeah honestly one of the biggest hurdles was worrying about randoms joining and ruining it

Since I cant solo queue

[shrewd pendant]

Anyone know exactly what is the maximum for blue/green/gray item ratings?

[dense moat]

around 480-500

[high cairn]

Tbh the healing one is the only one I have left

But I’ve just been having fun with my knife and crit/bleed

[slow fog]

Just timing it is a pain

Going to 1hp

[shrewd pendant]

not the question lol

[slow fog]

Yeah holy smokes the knife build, even without the cheesy busted bits is super fun

[high cairn]

Dashing for the crit helps

[slow fog]

you're just so dam fast

[high cairn]

Oh for sure, you can hold a horde so hard

I can breeze through 3s without a care with the knife

[slow fog]

It is very funny just one tapping specials and then running off knowing they'll die

[high cairn]

I did that to a beast of Nurgle lol

Was chasing a teammate

[slow fog]

Yeah honestly, I'm looking forward to the inevitable balance revision cause at the moment 3 is too easy and 4 is WAY too big a jump in difficulty

[high cairn]

4s not too bad

But idk, I played VT

[slow fog]

If you have a full team its manageable

[high cairn]

Yeah

[slow fog]

But it is a VERY significant jump

[high cairn]

It is a jump ye

[slow fog]

I'm not sure if they'll nerf difficulty or just buff us

[high cairn]

Tbh one of the biggest things people need to learn in this game is sounds

[cursive citrus]

4 is not bad

unless its bugged with endless hordes, which it fucking always is

[high cairn]

There’s a sound when an enemy is about to hit you from off screen, and you can dodge preemptively to avoid it

[amber dagger]

If they fix the spawning issues, then the difficulty will be more fare

fair*

[sharp fossil]

4 isn't bad. Its about the same as legend on vermintide 2. once you unnderstand the games mechanics it becomes alot easier

[slow fog]

Also dogs and mutant timing is way borked

Yeah I disagree on that

I've got all the black skins in VT

[high cairn]

Dogs aren’t too hard, just have to time your shove

[slow fog]

I think it might be a lag thing or something

[high cairn]

I laugh at the dogs cause a good shove screws them

[river kindle]

Can you bump Mutants? I've never managed it

[slow fog]

Cause mutants and dogs I will literally see them go past me

[high cairn]

No

[slow fog]

But I still go down

[cursive citrus]

pox bursters deciding that sometimes they dont wanna get shoved is teh worst

[slow fog]

Oh yeah that too

hahaha

[high cairn]

Mutants won’t stop for anything, even explosions afaik

[cursive citrus]

sometimes it works and you live, othertimes it doesnt and your team wipes

[river kindle]

That's what I thought

[sage glacier]

surge staff

[high cairn]

Ah, good to know. I don’t play Psyker

[slow fog]

Yeah honestly, once you hit 4s, mutant becomes probably my most hated enemy

[wispy fractal]

The timing on the dogs didn't feel too bad for me. But they feel like they have a really bad case of the quantum superposition shit gutter runners would do.

[void plaza]

is 500 really the max for a grey gun? 0_o

[high cairn]

I still hate trappers the most because they catch so many people out

Especially when there’s multiple, I had 3 spawn in a row once

[slow fog]

Again, if their timing wasn't screwy, it wouldn't be so bad.
Also yeah, dogs being able to miss you, turn 180, run away 3 metres, turn 180 again, then pounce you is a tad broken

[high cairn]

Ye that’s why I stopped dodging them and I shove them

[high cairn]

No, I don’t think so

[slow fog]

Yeah I'm shoving them too

[cursive citrus]

trappers need some changes

[high cairn]

Lol

[void plaza]

ive heard many contradicting values

[cursive citrus]

mostly they need to stop leaving the playable area to reload

[void plaza]

whats the max grey item rating?

[storm laurel]

trappers are mostly fine the range of the net just needs lowered a bit and they need to fix the sound cue to fire at the same time the net comes out

[slow fog]

The big problem with trappers a lot of the time is that there's a fuggin bulwark in the way and you can't see them, you cant shoot them and if you're unlucky and have the audio bug like me, you don't know when they're ACTUALLY shooting

[cursive citrus]

trappers and bombers should not be running out of bounds every 5 seconds

[wispy fractal]

What even kills mutants effectively? Maybe I'm just using bad damage types for them but my god the tkk on them it's ridiculous.

[storm laurel]

high damage melee specials

[high cairn]

I got another idea. Make them freak out if you get into melee, move towards them.

[slow fog]

Yeah chainsword or force sword will usually work

To stop a mutant

But sometimes they just decide nah

[high cairn]

Dodge and slap with a chainsword rev up

It’ll probably die

[cursive citrus]

ive had a few times when someone gets surprise netted near a door, then the trapper leaves, and cant be killed. THen someone comes and picks the guy up, but right before they finish, trapper pops out and nets them too, and runs away again

[high cairn]

Thé chainsword with zealot dash was how I got that penance done

[slow fog]

Basically the only thing that kills a mutant is a clip of bolter haha

[high cairn]

Priority, always kill the enemy first

[cursive citrus]

if they run out of bounds, you literally cant, thats the problem

[wispy fractal]

I'll try melee more then. I feel like ogryn doesn't have amazing single target melee burst

[high cairn]

OOHH that door

[cursive citrus]

yeah the enemy only teleporter doors

trapper abuse those so hard sometimes

[wispy fractal]

I definitely knew I was doing something wrong when dumping literally half a stubber mag into it didn't do jack shit

[slow fog]

Yeah this is some A grade chicanery, see it often enough that it definitely needs to be resolved

[cursive citrus]

bombers are just as bad at it, but dont insta-down someone so its not as critical, but just as irritating when they pop out of a door, throw a bomb, then disappear again

[slow fog]

If they are within quick throw grenade distance and reachable by the PCs, they shouldn't be allowed to dip back into a door

[high cairn]

My solution to this is, bring a flamer and set the floor around the door on fire

It’ll stagger him I think

[solemn parcel]

Club is pretty good at it, at least his best option imo

[bitter summit]

hmmm

[wispy fractal]

I've been using shovel so far, I'll give club a few runs

[shrewd pendant]

What is the "Supression" stat? "Clears Supression (Self) and grants Suppression Immunity (Self) for 0.5 seconds"

[dreamy carbon]

Best ogryn melee for damage is unironically a ranged weapon. The grenadier gauntlet.
Every hit with it, even light attacks, bleed enemies with the perk for bleed on heavy.

[cursive citrus]

when enemies shoot at you and your gun wobbles alll over so you cant hit anything

[solemn parcel]

Club also bonks all the other specials nicely if you have the chance to

[wispy fractal]

I think I've been soured on a few weapon types by bad rolls early on.
It's pretty crazy just how much they actually vary.

[shrewd pendant]

ahh, thats a shit perk

[feral gust]

1. What's the limit on 'consecrations'.
   2, Is there a 'critical failure', will it break current consecrations?

[slow fog]

It goes up to orange/yellowish

[high cairn]

1. Gold quality
2. No

[solemn parcel]

Does a good chunk of damage to ragers as well, better than other weapons I've tested briefly

[wispy fractal]

I got a stubber with a better stability and range roll and suddenly it felt like a different gun

[cursive citrus]

it can be pretty great, just headshot someone close, then pop out of cover and pop all the ranged guys shooting ya. Altho IMO it could use a longer duration, half a second is barely long enough to shoot once

[solemn parcel]

Fill up the orange bars

[slow fog]

I wonder if the Shrine of the Omnissiah is just the crafting station, and the achievement doesn't work properly, or if it's something new

[high cairn]

Shredder stat on the chain weapons is so important to murder specials

[limpid ice]

buy or no buy?

for zealot

[high cairn]

Ehhhh I wouldn’t

It’s not a great roll

Look for something 460+

[limpid ice]

im stuck with shitty warhammers

[slow fog]

Momentum is good

[eternal bone]

wait, Kwazi? Mordhau Kwazi?

[earnest lodge]

does the rating of a weapon directly effect its damage?

[slow fog]

Thrust, I don't know

[weak venture]

Which one of these is better for upgrading?

[feral gust]

Is this 'Infernus' I've been hearing about only at 'Gold'?

[slow fog]

I guess you'd be using heavies on horde clear so it might be OK

[solemn parcel]

Yeah, sup bro

[eternal bone]

god small world

[high cairn]

It affects the stat rolls and affects the amount of stats that can be rolled into damage so sorta

[limpid ice]

okay will have to wait a while then

[slow fog]

Top one probably

Crit is useful as Zealot

I still think toughness on multihit is essential for evisc

[solemn parcel]

Melee gamers unite to kill rats and heretics

[earnest lodge]

wish those stats had actual numbers and not that weird bar

[high cairn]

Ye but Evis has terrible base crit

[high cairn]

They’re changing it soon

[eternal bone]

I'm uniting here to bitch about the melee combat until it's hopefully changed to be more like VT2

my efforts have not been going well so far

[limpid ice]

yeah im running knife bleed & crit80% build atm

[slow fog]

I believe the bonus to crit is additive, so that is a good perk

[high cairn]

Your crit is 80%

[pallid echo]

Whats the max rating a blue weapon could have?

[limpid ice]

yeah i can dm you how

[feral gust]

Hmm.. It's Shredder vs Cleave. Depends on playstyle.
Cleave is for crowd control
Shredder is for Bulwarks/Maulers

[high cairn]

I mean yeah but at max it’s still only like 22% vs Dagger gets like 30% base

[tardy stump]

is this good

[slow fog]

Plasma guns are bad at the mo

[high cairn]

Ye for sure

509 how tf

[slow fog]

I imagine this will change on release/balance patch

[tardy stump]

yeah I thought max was 500 idk

[solemn parcel]

Combat feels alright enough to me tbh outside of the stupid stuff popping up behind you, maybe dodge could be more fluid rather than relying on spamming slide like dodge

[high cairn]

Lucky bastard 😂

[earnest lodge]

is there any guide for what the good weapon effects are?

[eternal bone]

If you're in NAPC, someone recently posted in the melee talk channel with alot of concerns that I share :^)

[tardy stump]

it's in the shop lol, 3k premium currency

[high cairn]

Depends entirely on the class and playstyle you want to have

[high cairn]

I’d say buy it just to flex on people lol

[bitter summit]

maybe for the rating? and then change blessings once the new crafting systems are installed. not sure what's good on plasma

[limpid ice]

@high cairn i DM you

[high cairn]

Plus it has Elites and Specialists meaning it does bonus damage to all enemy types

[limpid ice]

what you think?

[main laurel]

at what power rating should one consider crafting something?

[shrewd pendant]

What blessings do you guys like on the Kantrael? these all seem like they suck

[tardy stump]

yeah I guess one question is how high is 509

[bitter summit]

high

[slow fog]

Holy shid, dat ammo

You only get two clips at full ammo

and thats with high ammo stat

[patent sapphire]

seems like a great roll on a weapon that struggles, if it ever gets buffed who knows

[high cairn]

Dano I need to DM you something

[slow fog]

OK all good

[digital plume]

have all the missions been in rotation yet trying to complete last penance

[slow fog]

Im looking forward to them buffing plasma. I haven't even unlocked it yet, but hearing its weak makes me sad

[solemn parcel]

yea i agree with a lot of his concerns in particular the stun after block being broken

[eternal bone]

melee god has good opinions, as expected

[solemn parcel]

and the stun after toughness break

that shit is rough

[shrewd pendant]

Does the blessing Opening Salvo give +5% power on the first bullet shot out of the mag or the first bullet that hits an enemy?

[swift schooner]

did they change the time to die at 100% today

[high cairn]

Yes, they all have been at one point or another

[slow fog]

I agree, the toughness break stagger and block stagger both need adjustment imo

Especially since it makes grenadiers way more dangerous than they should be

Cause explosion staggers you

Then your toughness breaks on the first tick which staggers you

Then you're slowed

[solemn parcel]

yeah you just get locked for a good chunk of hp

also getting staggered out of ogryn charge is one of the worst feelings i have ever felt

[slow fog]

Also if you're literally sliding away

You still get glued into place

[spice sigil]

Thats why they shout grenade and it flashes then explodes, gotta run

[slow fog]

Yeah same with zealot getting frozen in place during charge because they got shot twice

[slow fog]

Not always possible

You shouldn't get staggered twice

And if you're sliding, you shouldn't get glued to the floor

[spice sigil]

It isnt always gonna be possible, but they do have a huge tell

[slow fog]

I mean

I know

[spice sigil]

I agree with sliding part

[slow fog]

I'm just saying there's problems with the mechanics of the explosion and how it affects movement

[silver ridge]

How do people spam slide, sometimes I see players sliding and immediately standing up then slide again

[slow fog]

Slide is super good

Since you're so slow otherwise

[jade canyon]

Love the perks and blessing on this badboy. Started using it while anticipating the Recon Las VId nerfs lol.

[native nymph]

any tips for not getting hit besides just git gud? I always get hit at least a couple times a mission, mostly from lone guys sneaking up behind me and when theres a big horde I inevitably get hit
Also does blocking count as getting hit

[slow fog]

What class?

[spice sigil]

As long as your health doesnt go down it isnt a hit i believe

[slow fog]

Also what melee weapon

[jade canyon]

Watch a bunch of vermintide videos on dodging. In melee you wanna attack, push dodge, attack properly.

[bold eagle]

just dodge spam around the horde your facing and if you cant do that dodge backwards

[slow fog]

Oh right you mean for the penance

[rigid delta]

Hey guys, i main as a psyker. Need some advice. Really like daggers in this game and had just gotten this - wonder if its worth upgrading
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1046914875584159764/image.png

[native nymph]

what if I get hit in overshield by the plaguebearers

[bold eagle]

if all that fails, start pushing

[native nymph]

alr

[spice sigil]

If your health goes down even from corruption i think its counted as a hit

[bold eagle]

if that all fails, it likely means you are facing a horde and are cornered and you are probably screwed

[native nymph]

but what if my overshield gets hit and my health doesnt go down

also what is "hit mass" btw, my sword ignores it apparently

[jade canyon]

Build what you like! If you think its working for you I'd do it. Personally I find force swords as the more useful piece of kit. I tried using the combat knife and wasn't too big a fan

[heady crest]

Buy to upgrade, yay or nay?

[eternal bone]

Your options are unfortunately alot more limited than VT2, you still play the same way but alot of mechanical nerfs make it alot more difficult to avoid damage

• ranged bastards

[spice sigil]

I believe your safe then, but melee will always do atleast 1 dmg even at full shield

[sharp locust]

The witch are not back yet?

[native nymph]

oh

[rigid delta]

yeah i really like the mobility with it, just curious about the actual stats on this mentioned dagger also

[fading tree]

Alright so

I'm a level 20 preacher

And the flamer has NEVER appeared in the shop for me

[slow fog]

its a nice dagger, but at the moment force sword with ranged block is kind of the best option. If you do better with a dagger though, then that's better

[fading tree]

What do I have to do- sell my soil to be graced with a flamer?

[slow fog]

Gedda bolter, its probably better anyway haha

[eternal bone]

no you just get to enjoy Fatshark's amazing new gearing system, complete with revolutionary "never get what you actually want" technology

VT2's system worked a bit too well, so it had to go

[fading tree]

Seems like it

[wispy fractal]

Hit mass is how much a specific enemy takes out of your cleave.
Like for instance the zombie type swarm enemies have very low hitmass and the guardsmen type swarm enemies have much higher.
So the same swing will hit more of one than the other

[fathom kite]

Does hitting an ally count at 100% accuracy?

[slow fog]

No point bagging on the loot system until release really - we don't know what they have planned to help mitigate RNG

Well

You can still bag on it

[spice sigil]

nope

[slow fog]

But like, keep in mind its likely not final

[heady crest]

I'd lean to 'yes'. The damage bonus to flak is pretty pointless, but bleed on non weakpoint hits? Hell yes

[jade canyon]

Psyker's good at prioritising major targets. I find force sword does it better than the knife. But do you!

[fathom kite]

Thx

[native nymph]

do melee hits count for that penance?

[rigid delta]

Thanks guys

[fading tree]

My luck is the worst

I was trying to get the chainsword on the zealot

[versed trail]

I have a pretty simple question: How significant are the stats from guns (Damage, stability etc) in practice?
For example, i'm a level 15 Sharpshooter and got myself a Bolter.
Said Bolter had pretty good stats for my rank except for stability. After I yeeted it into a mission i realised that there is so much sway after a shot that missing a sniper with the first round is lethal.
Now i'm seeing a second Bolter in the store with double the stability but half reload and basically the same on everything else.
Is that significant enough to make an actual difference in performance?

[fading tree]

But it only appeared on my vet

[spice sigil]

The 100% accuracy? no, just the gun. you can melee and miss no prob

[native nymph]

alr thank you

[heady crest]

it'll drop. Eventually. I'm still agonising over the lasrifle in the shot.

[spice sigil]

best would be shotgun

[fading tree]

Also what does alt shotgun fire do?

[slow fog]

So I had the same eviscirator that I got at like level 8, I finally found a good replacement at around 27 and the damage difference was about 20%. I can't remember what the bar comparison was on damage

I think it was around 50% full vs 85%

[native nymph]

hammerblow (10% impact x5 on hit for 1.5s) or ignores hit mass on critical hit for 2s, thoughts? (sword)

[heady crest]

Crap, I forgot to say

[rigid delta]

upgraded 😄

[heady crest]

the lasrifle I'm looking at upgrading (see above) is for a vet

[versed trail]

I wish the bars were more like
numbers instead of bars

[fading tree]

Numbers and bars

[versed trail]

Like dafuq does a 50% full bar mean?

[spice sigil]

On bolter its a kicker anyway but it would make a difference yeah

[slow fog]

Zealots jealous RN

[slow fog]

The damage bar in its stats

It was about 50%

[eternal bone]

Nothing of importance. Fortunately enough people have complained about how stupid the stats are that FS has said they're going to be changing it.

Whether they change it to actually be good will be the question

[fading tree]

But yeah what does the alt fire for shotguns do?

[spice sigil]

damn

[versed trail]

With that being said, is a Chainaxe even worth it if i have a power sword? Power sword with the ability seems to have infinite cleave

[fading tree]

I'll take that as no one knows

[heady crest]

lasrifle, camo, pewpew.

[tardy stump]

no better feeling than playing as vet with boltgun and emptying my entire load into an ogryn

[spice sigil]

I think itll tell you if you inspect? i cant remember

[versed trail]

Pretty sure the spread becomes horizontal

or something

[spice sigil]

I think its either wider spread for horde or closer spread for focus

I wish the crosshair changed for the shot tho

[slow fog]

Chain axe seems pretty bad, whereas power sword is basically agreed to be the best melee in the game at the moment

[solemn parcel]

what's the best difficulty to get the most monies

is it d1 speedruns

[manic dirge]

Do we know what time the beta will end tomorrow?

[fading tree]

Oh I thought that it meant that the shot itself had wider spread because it was simply a shotgun

[pastel canyon]

Heresy espionage or disruption missions

[spice sigil]

Its worth it for the fun factor but PwS is OP a little rn

[slow fog]

Do you mean when release drops, or when the game goes down for maintenance?

[fading tree]

Also one of the psyker missions seems utterly retarded

[versed trail]

The sword would pretty much drain my entire money pool

[eternal bone]

People who think there are pre-designated "roles" for certain classes to fill are morons and should be ignored. The objective of the game is to get to the end of the mission without dying, which is primarily a function of personal damage dealt and damage received. He should get good and quit relying on others to cover him.

[versed trail]

axe*

[manic dirge]

when the game goes down for maintenance

[fading tree]

The one where they must fight the monsters 1 on 1

[slow fog]

Yeah psykers kind of got the shaft on penances

[fading tree]

By themselves

With no one else doing damage

How in the world-

[slow fog]

Unsure - I don't think they've specified

Premade group is basically the only wya

[heady crest]

do we get any more crafting resources on higher difficulties?

[haughty umbra]

Friend of mine got it in 5 minutes on the boss at level 30, it's not that bad but it's pretty bad

[gleaming jewel]

hey lads, lil question, whats is "wound" the weapon stat, what does it do ?

[fading tree]

Did you have to co-ordinate with your entire team to not shoot the monster at all?

[slow fog]

You can always have your friends kill non boss enemies so you can focus. I do really wish they'd make it 95% damage, rather than 100

Cause like a stray shotgun pellet is enough to ruin it

[heady crest]

it's why I swear by camo for veteran-so much ignores you, allowing you to focus on the few ranged shooting you, then the rest of the ranged stuff

[haughty umbra]

Divides your health bar by an extra bar so you lose less health when downed and have more downs total
@fading tree 2 in a premade+2 randos, they just asked the randoms to help

[fading tree]

Okay Holy balls this would be impossible with random players

[gleaming jewel]

oh shit thanks

[hollow island]

You can never truly know if camo is working, but it works better than you think

[haughty umbra]

I would HIGHLY recommend getting level 30 before trying it in the first place

[fading tree]

Alrighty

[wispy fractal]

100% anecdotally it sure feels like there are more. But that might just be because of people actually checking boxes and corners instead of full sprinting through.

[spice sigil]

depends if you get people who dont mind helping. many randos have been very kind when I ask for penance help

[hollow island]

I switch builds up too much to remember when I have camo or not, but it’s good when you play around it

[shy wing]

Anyone know why I have yet to see an investigation mission in like 3 days

[fading tree]

Oh god for a while I was suffering with immense lag

[patent sapphire]

for diamant max malice is 45, max heresy is >150, idk about damnation

[fading tree]

To the point where i couldn't walk backwards

This choncler was complaing because I wasn't able to walk backwards during a fight, I told him my issues

[orchid pollen]

Hey, might be in the wrong channel, but has anyone figured out the approximate stat total ranges for weapon tiers yet?

[kind zephyr]

This is worth 6000cash, yeah?

Then just upgrade it...

[orchid pollen]

Or at the very least what the upper level limit is for white tier gear?

[kind zephyr]

I'm assuming 350.

[orchid pollen]

got this in shop and highest ive personally seen thus far

[fading tree]

And he responded with "Well just turn your mouse walk in a circle"

how am I meant to walk in a circle when I'm being surrounded by pox walkers who want to give me a kiss?

[kind zephyr]

Perks = 25 each (2 max, 50pts total)
Blessings = 50 each (2 max, 100pts total)

500 Gear score max total.

[patent sapphire]

presumption right now is 400, here’s a 376 axe, not mine

[shy wing]

Anyone know if investigation missions are not in the game right now or something?

[kind zephyr]

Oh dang!

[kind zephyr]

So maybe 550 or 600 is the GS max?

[wispy fractal]

I've had some VERY weird lag in that vein also.
Where it feels like the game just starts deciding for you which direction you are going to walk.

[orchid pollen]

Thanks, I'll keep saving my cash then for incremental stat total upgrades then.

[patent sapphire]

nobody knows yet

[quasi rampart]

what does +x% on salvo's first shot mean?

[haughty umbra]

560 in theory, based off a 400 grey item

[rigid wasp]

Please , guardsman , be reasonable

Boltgun have shit tone of recoil or extremely slow firing rate , even your skill won’t change it .

If you want to deal with long range shit , take lasgun , if close and sometimes longer , autogun , but leave bolters for priests they are always in close range to an enemy and can use they’re weapons good

[craggy solar]

perks and blessings prolly give rating based on tier of the them

[stone wing]

the highest I have seen (not mine)

I'm beginning to believe 400

[kind zephyr]

+X% Bonus on first shots in one volley. You need to stop firing for a minimum amount of time before firing again to get the bonus again.
Easiest way to make sure you've waited long enough is to switch weapons and switch back again.

[craggy solar]

like I think blessing can go up to a tier 4 version

[amber dagger]

END MISSION CRASH seems to be fixed! I just finished a mission right now without crashing

[quasi rampart]

thanks, is it a good blessing to have?

[rigid wasp]

Please , guardsman , be reasonable

Boltgun have shit tone of recoil or extremely slow firing rate , even your skill won’t change it .

If you want to deal with long range shit , take lasgun , if close and sometimes longer , autogun , but leave bolters for priests they are always in close range to an enemy and can use they’re weapons good

[stone wing]

it needs more recoil and less ammo

[quasi rampart]

I'm more of a lasgun kind of guy

[slow fog]

It definitely seems to affect different people more. I crash fairly rarely

[kind zephyr]

Depends what gun, and what % it's affecting.

[slow fog]

But good to hear its working better for you

[frosty star]

i need my krieg cosmetics

[rigid wasp]

Say it to every third high lv guard

[frosty star]

so I can play as my fav regiment

[quasi rampart]

I said it in a mission once and got flamed lmao

[orchid pollen]

i'm just glad i got a good mk2 helbore, mk1/mk3 are just too ammo innefficient for their own good

[frosty star]

I noticed the MK2 uses less yeah

[quasi rampart]

mg xii +13%

[orchid pollen]

... i'd still use the mk3 for the bayonet slash if it didn't have that awkward delay between swings tho

[slow fog]

Bolters are good on vet, having that extreme burst is very useful in a lot of situations. Also Psyker can handle extreme range specials

[kind zephyr]

Sorry I mean crit chance, or damage, what?

[quasi rampart]

oh sorry, power, whatever that means

[crystal tusk]

Hi guys! quick question, does the mission for the vet where he can`t get hit in melee counts when you drops in via quickmatch in an ongoing mission, or you have to be in control from the start?

[rigid wasp]

Lol

[rigid wasp]

You better off with an zealots with em rather then vet , because main point of vet is fire support and doing it with that thing is … complex

[orchid pollen]

I think that exploit got patched, but I can't confirm since I already completed it myself

[crystal tusk]

Not the exploit, i mean the legit way. I`m just worried i have to be on from the start, and not drop in an ongoing game from quickplay

[spice sigil]

MG XII my beloved

[crystal tusk]

Like, if i join a running game i already know it`s not going to count

[quasi rampart]

I assume power means damage

[slow fog]

Vets use them much better. They have increased reload speed talent, and plus 50% damage on F AND a talent to instant reload on F

[rigid wasp]

I rejoined at the end and it did counted

[slow fog]

I get what you're saying, but vet using bolter isn't bad at all

[quasi rampart]

my man

[spice sigil]

Power ive heard is an overall buff to most/all stats. dunno how accurate that is though

[patent sapphire]

bolter is too fun not to use

[slow fog]

Its just midrange vs long range and the vet doesn't HAVE to be long range

[spice sigil]

heres my baby

[shrewd pendant]

is there a list of weapon perks anywhere? i see a site that has blessings but they don't have those little mini perks

[slow fog]

It's all kind of moot anyway, since things will get balanced on/post release

Like no way is plasma gun supposed to be that weak

[rigid wasp]

Issue isn’t in skills , issue in use of weapon itself, bolter is horde cleaner for close range push or as last chance weapon to vipe big boop of elite

[slow fog]

Wat

[rigid wasp]

And have very limited amo

[quasi rampart]

I liked the bolter at first, but the combination of sights, sway and that bolt racking every time you equip it kills it for me. plus by the time I take it out and rack it I've already killed 4 dudes with my lasgun

[slow fog]

Who uses bolter for horde clear?

On my zealot I would only shoot into a horde in an emergency

[wispy fractal]

People sure love objective statements that are actually 100% opinion

[rigid wasp]

Anyone who noices it’s penetration capability?

[spice sigil]

In a pinch itll wipe em out

[slow fog]

I mean sure

But it's hardly its main use

[patent sapphire]

there’s only a handful of lanes you can’t ads down and reliably hit exactly what you want

[rigid wasp]

6 round and it’s gone

[patent sapphire]

if you use vet ability there’s no such lane

[shrewd pendant]

I think everyone who sucks at vet and thinks the bolter is bad uses their ranged weapon to clear hordes

[patent sapphire]

since you get extra zoom

[quasi rampart]

she's beautiful, you're a lucky man

[slow fog]

sounds legit

I will shoot into a horde if there are elites near the back or if its menacing a party member who is in trouble

[shy dagger]

We all know melee-only Veteran is the way to go.

[slow fog]

Other than that, its basically exclusively for special use

[spice sigil]

I even consecrated for that 2nd blessing, the emperor was with me then

[slow fog]

Vet has more leeway with ammo

[rigid wasp]

I think I’m sick of dumb fuckers using it shit and just to them turn to melee and destroy 4 rank run again

[slow fog]

But if they're wanging it into trash, they're wasing ammo

[quasi rampart]

I wish the emperor blesses me as well. I have faith

[shrewd pendant]

I understood what all of those words meant seperately

[eternal bone]

lmao

[fallen shell]

Anyone know if there's any work-arounds or fixes for getting errors 2007?

[sleek nebula]

what exact time do the servers close?

[uncut verge]

TBD O'clock

[quasi rampart]

Oh great the only available scripture mission is damnation

[sleek nebula]

weh

[outer meteor]

Is Demolition Team ment to be onlly Elite Kills? Or is it a bug?

[shrewd pendant]

Time to become a man

[quasi rampart]

I'm not too shabby but I'm no pro either

wait what

[shrewd pendant]

Only difference between you and pros is that the pros have failed more times than you have tried

[rigid wasp]

By my experience, in 3/4 cases when I encounter guard with an bolter , he /she or whatever, creates issues , it’s always different shit , once fucker generally sucked and was shity in shooting , killing and anything , other person just used all the amo and was hoarding any he had found just to use it on anything , other it was same case then second but he screamed valhalla or something pull out his power sword and died in middle of moving carking energy cell for ventilation

[vital relic]

ok chat hear me out what if ?

[rigid wasp]

Generally , whenever I encounter boltgun vet , i have a feeling that something gonna go shity , and mostly it does

[shrewd pendant]

Most people are just bad right now no matter what weapon they use.

[valid pelican]

Lasgun vets know their duty.

[rigid wasp]

Autogun vets are decent mostly

If they don’t use headhunter vracks mk 1

[burnt pendant]

How does "Opening Salvo" work on a semi-auto weapon?

[shrewd pendant]

I've never seen those guys doing their job of killing ranged units but I'm also on the team with them doing that so not my biggest concern

[uncut verge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-best-part-elmo-blatch-the-shawshank-redemption-that-part-was-the-best-thats-what-makes-it-great-gif-23667360

[quasi rampart]

I queued, guy joined and left after 6 seconds

I tried

[shrewd pendant]

I wish anyone knew how opening salvo worked exactly. Is it the first bullet that hits the enemy or the first bullet fired from a gun after reload?

[glad bramble]

Boltgun is really difficult to aim. It does that annoying thing where the sights point one way, but because of sway the bolt simply does not go where the sights say the bolt should.

Even with near max stability I get staggered a lot.

[burnt pendant]

I assume it is meant to be the fist bullet on a burst from a burst-fire gun. Hence there's also a blessing that buffs the "second and third shot".
Just... it's semi-auto.

[glad bramble]

I figured that if you fire repeatedly, subsequent shots count as "in the same salvo?"

[rigid wasp]

When I was one i was doing so pretty casually? Braced haya and Agripina works well in most combat ranges even against single targets , then again , I’m Lucius guardsman now

And I hunt for abominations

[patent sapphire]

someone posted awhile back that there’s an internal cooldown on it, you need to stop firing for ~1s to get the benefit again

[uncut verge]

that's actually pretty good if true

[patent sapphire]

i can’t confirm, probably should test in the meat grinder

[spice sigil]

hmm could be good on lucius if charging counts as waiting

[glad bramble]

Boltgun is understandably clunky but imo the inability to swap easily to it makes it worse than a lasgun. As zealot, I see an elite or special out of reasonable sprint range and by the time I get my boltgun ready, a teammate has killed them, they've killed me, or I could have killed them with a lasgun.

[rigid wasp]

Don’t Strafe skips animation ?

[glad bramble]

what

[spice sigil]

I just hate that getting staggered by boss or smth makes you re rack the bolt again

[rigid wasp]

I believe strafing to the left or right skips initial animation with bolt down allowing you to shoot straight off?

[strange jolt]

Rate my bolter

[patent sapphire]

if you cancel the firing with a dodge it feels like it resets the sway faster, it definitely doesn’t skip it though

[coral prism]

lasgun mk12 rise up

[shrewd pendant]

its trash, give it to me

[vital relic]

how do you even do this

[rigid wasp]

I hav same but better

[patent sapphire]

8/10 rating could be higher plus no specialist/elite bonus trait

[uncut verge]

Bridge + Horde

[strange jolt]

holding X

[shrewd pendant]

no, gimme

[vital relic]

but my team will just kill them

[subtle mortar]

just broken blessing description lol

[uncut verge]

Beg every team to let a horde close for you on a bridge until you get a team that will

[umbral glade]

hey guys did i miss something or is this the 10missions we got?

[vital relic]

so i am suppose to yell to my team to let me complete this challenge 😭

[strange jolt]

try looking in the lfg channel

[hard goblet]

My testing in the meat grinder found it to be roughly a 1 sec window for the next shot fired to count as part of the same salvo.

[uncut verge]

LFG for Penance Challenges in #vox-lfg-nasa

[strange jolt]

sometimes theres people that advertise pennance runs

[uncut verge]

(or whatever region is best for you)

[subtle mortar]

non bolter vets unite

[vital relic]

okay

[uncut verge]

No YeLlInG!!!11

[strange jolt]

fr..

[queen moth]

just maxxed vet and psyker, which one should i play next: zealot or ogryn?

[abstract glacier]

Такой вопрос "несгибаемые враги" кто это.

Such a question is "inflexible enemies" who they are.

[next pilot]

I'd say the bosses? Since we can't push them around

and the mutie

[uncut verge]

inflexible?

Where do you see that word?

[next pilot]

He meant unyielding imo

[split anvil]

Mostly the ogryns

[next pilot]

But wtv, I think we got the idea

[abstract glacier]

sorry Unyielding

[rigid wasp]

Ogryns are monstrosity’s?

Plus they can be suppressed?

[limpid ice]

nope

[subtle mortar]

if you go into the psykhanium it show what the enemy types are

[rigid wasp]

I did suppressed an grave dude

Like with mg

Ah

[wispy fractal]

Plague ogryns are monstrosities the normal ones aren't

[rigid wasp]

make sense

[rigid wasp]

Why killing them counts as killing monstrosity ?

[subtle mortar]

they arn't montrosities tho

[next pilot]

Okay but the question was which are the unyielding ones?

[subtle mortar]

they are their own category lol

[kindred flame]

ogryns arent monstrosities

Only bosses are

Plague ogryns, beast of nurgle, assassination targets

[subtle mortar]

yes

[kindred flame]

Reapers Bulwarks Crushers are ogryn category

[stable ferry]

I thought daemonhosts counted

[subtle mortar]

well it's a boss so yes

[rigid wasp]

Strange

[abstract glacier]

And what does "Rending" do? I'm sorry I'm not clear, I'm using google translator

[kindred flame]

Vet has a feat that allows 50% damage increase to ogryns and monstrosities during volley fire

[rigid wasp]

How did I killed 3 of them in one run when we faced only 1 plague ogryn then ?

[kindred flame]

Because a plague ogryn is a monstrosity

The other ogryns are not

Plague Ogryn is a boss

[rigid wasp]

I do have 3 monstrosity killed in my list

[kindred flame]

Bosses are monstrosities

[rigid wasp]

After killing 1

[kindred flame]

Beast of Nurgle is also a monstrosity

Same with any Boss like the one you face in assassination missions

[subtle mortar]

rending is armor penetration

[rigid wasp]

I carking saying to you , why then it gave me 3 instead of 1

[kindred flame]

Because you killed other bosses???

[rigid wasp]

No

[kindred flame]

Plague ogryns arent the only monstrosities

[rigid wasp]

We had 1 boss and then just clear out mission

[abstract glacier]

Thanks

[rigid wasp]

It was raid so we didn’t killed officer

[kindred flame]

Bro Reapers, Bulwarks and crushers are not Monstrosities

[rigid wasp]

And we faced only 1 monster

[rigid wasp]

I’m telling you what fucking happened

Either it is big

*bug

[kindred flame]

They are not monstrosities

[rigid wasp]

Or something works strange

[kindred flame]

Stop acting up

Lol

Ur trying to argue that they are monstrosities we are telling u they are not

Saying "Well how come i have 3 kills now??" doesnt prove anything

Or make them monstrosities

[rigid wasp]

Your ass is acting up , I’m telling about strange shit that happens , same as when bot throws away scripture after appearing

[kindred flame]

U need to take some fresh air

[rigid wasp]

I’m trying to understand what do I need to kill

To get an legendary sword

[kindred flame]

I just told u 4 times what u need to kill

Maybe if u stop trying to argue and re read what i say

[rigid wasp]

It say monstrosities, I killed 1 and but have 3 in em, it’s either bug or system is being strange

[kindred flame]

Weeklies have been reset since last night

[fathom crag]

Is the preacher Shocking achievement bugged?

I tried doing it thrice, and the 1/50 meter didn't change one bit 😦

[rigid wasp]

I’m taking about new ones

[kindred flame]

You're telling me since last night you only killed one monstrosity

[rigid wasp]

Not old ones

[kindred flame]

The new ones got reset last night

[rigid wasp]

I’ve played today since 8 pm which for me was 3 hours ago

So don’t really changes much?

Either way

Power hammer or 2 handed chain sword?

[subtle mortar]

combat knife lol

[rigid wasp]

It’s actually decent , unironically

Shame it’s not really effective on armored targets even with max pen

[spice sigil]

I have a feeling assassination bosses count as monstrosities because I also apparently killed one but the mission I did never had one spawn

[subtle mortar]

they do

that's what we've been saying

[spice sigil]

I didnt read beyond two scrolls lol sry

[subtle mortar]

basically anything with the big hp bar that shows up is a monstrosity

[spice sigil]

My notes say hes an arch heretic, thats all they say

[lilac trail]

Hey is there a glossory somewhere that I haven't found in game that describes all the key words? Rending and Brittleness and the sort

[spice sigil]

Nope sadly, that would be helpful

[coral prism]

[dreamy carbon]

Am I the only one who thinks the Lorenz Rumbler is one of the best ranged weapons for Ogryn?
The satisfying thunk when you dome an enemy, the huge AoE explosion that demolishes hordes or staggers elites/specials, fast reload, good ammo pool.

[versed bolt]

Is there anything useful to do with old gear? can you sell or deconstruct it?

[dreamy carbon]

Discarding it sells it, not sure deconstruct is planned.

[lilac trail]

;_;

[limpid ice]

grey gear can be saved for blessings if you are looking for a specific build

[dreamy carbon]

Rumbler is also unironically a big brain weapon for a small brain character. You can curve nades into spaces you normally can't shoot into or save teammates from behind walls.

[coral prism]

buy high ilvl common items for later

highest ive seen in my shop so far has been a 345 shottie

[rustic python]

Is the imperial edition bugged?

I upgraded and have none of my shit

[dreamy carbon]

1 more day mate.

[rustic python]

Ah okay

[dreamy carbon]

#❓faq-for-convicts

[tidal lily]

I'm currently running into a repetitive issue. I have tanked the graphics settings, updated drivers, and done everything in the books to ensure my game won't crash, yet it persists. Has anyone found a work around or resolution to this problem?

[rustic python]

Thanks

[limpid ice]

1st second of the mission start

[arctic plover]

Anyone know any news on why there was no update today like they said there was supposed to be back on the 17th?

[limpid ice]

fastest game ever

[fierce knoll]

So since the update with the Deamon host boss gets released I can't see any Blackout missions on the map

[raw plover]

hey guys, for the twitch drop skins: in december will we be able to earn another copy of them or it will just be a rerun for the same skin?

[signal cipher]

Anyone know if counter fire is working?

[celest turtle]

Any good?

[austere epoch]

what are "infested enemies"? are those just the sickly trash mob people? or is it, all of nurgles kin?

[celest turtle]

yes

[austere epoch]

fair

[amber dagger]

poxwalkers, the ones that look like sick civies

[austere epoch]

noted

[amber dagger]

if you want to know for sure, go back to the 'tutorial' thing and use the bottom option for the shooting gallory

[rancid tendon]

anyone else having issues replacing weekly contracts?

[lavish shale]

so I get one or two stacks from a partially charged heavy attack, right?

or I guess 15% is max, 5% per charge?

[limpid ice]

think 45%

depending how long you charge your attack

15% per charged heavy

[lavish shale]

oh shit

[austere epoch]

really hope they get the bonus damage to elites stuff fixed, at this point my green lasgun with a gear score of 200 is outperforming my 355 boltgun at killing elites

[tired crown]

Also dogs are infected

[slow fog]

My favourite armour type is Dreg Rager

[azure cove]

Thanks for all the greys, Emperor >_>

[slow fog]

There are like 3 or 4 specials that are listed as having "Dreg Rager" armour haha

[wintry mirage]

How does Burn scale on a flame staff?

[slow fog]

I think the dot starts at 20% of your highest damage tick

That was what I observed, but that's probably not correct

[cursive citrus]

What's the known bugs with traits so far? I've heard of some knife bleed trait and elite damage

[wintry mirage]

I'm trying to figure out if this is worth the upgrades. The burn is high.

[slow fog]

Id recommend playing around with it in the psykhanium, it is surprisingly most effective on light/medium armoured targets

OH right

I imagine that is DoT strength?

Unsure though

[celest turtle]

VERY Worth

[wintry mirage]

I would think so.

[austere epoch]

@cursive citrus currently elite damage is treating all single digit percentage buffs as 2 digit buffs. Example, 6% = 60%, whereas 10% = 10%

[wintry mirage]

This is what I have at the moment and it melts.

[rugged wigeon]

Good roll?

[wintry mirage]

Any particular reason?

[slow fog]

That blessing is not very good

[celest turtle]

All stats good, damage is irrelevant

[slow fog]

It's a low roll on it

[wintry mirage]

Boom good copy. Tango Mike

[cursive citrus]

Oops, somebody forgot a 0 in the calculations

[austere epoch]

its loooking that way, idk if its that way for all weapons, but i can verify its that way for a MK VII lasgun. This thing has no business 1 tapping things in the face as often as it does

[green glacier]

Hello,
I Have a cathachan combat blade with flesh tearer perk
but perk description missing
It says
bespoke_bleed_on_crit_melee_desc....

so i wonder, did it adding bleed on crits or something else

[arctic plover]

uploading for reference in general chat.

[austere epoch]

efficiency sucks, imo, but other than that....i want

[arctic plover]

Yeah that is such a wasted perk. But ill switch it out once we can change blessings. May the emperor provide.

[green glacier]

??? what is this

[austere epoch]

Oh WOW lmao. i think thats a lookup error

[green glacier]

any idea what it does tho

[spiral goblet]

at a guess I'd say "bleed_on_crit_melee"

[austere epoch]

uhh it gets reported to fat shark first before anything

[arctic plover]

oh dear someone forgot to enter values for that. hahaha. yeah, go report that on the forums.

[burnt pendant]

Looks like it causes a bleed stack on melee critical, aye.

[austere epoch]

based on the rough syntax, im assuming it applies bleed on crit

[lapis bramble]

Someone can tell me which are the missions you can do? I got 6 from 7 for the Penitance.

[austere epoch]

guessing the error is caused by it trying to define how many stacks are applied

[lapis bramble]

I never see the last one.

[austere epoch]

so if its undefined, then either it will apply none, OR it will apply ALL OF THE BLEEDS

go slap things in the meat grinder with it and get back to us. im very curious to see what happens

[orchid cove]

When does the pre-order beta end?

[austere epoch]

29th? i think

or maybe thats jus tthe last day

29th or 30th, one of those

[lapis bramble]

I have done: Incursion, Strike, Perturbation, Repair, Spy, Assassination, what kind of mission I am missing?

[austere epoch]

disruption

[lapis bramble]

I have never seen that one yet. 😦

I miss it for my helmet.

[austere epoch]

theres one up now for me

emblem looks like an iron cross

[nimble sand]

need help qith a good ogrim build. I want to tank but it seems imposible

[lapis bramble]

that's perturbation for me I believe.

I got the game in Spanish btw.

[austere epoch]

@lapis bramble

oh

[lapis bramble]

that is "Perturbación"

I got it.

[austere epoch]

well fuck me then idk lol

maybe raid?

no thats prob incursion

[spiral goblet]

Disruption.

[austere epoch]

disruption is perturbation for him

[worldly horizon]

Is there anyway to refresh the store? I have not found a combat blade besides the first day I’ve played.

[austere epoch]

store refreshes every hour

[unreal falcon]

What was the scanning one called?

[silver ridge]

Investigation?

[spiral goblet]

oh yeah I was saying that the mission icon is disruption. my b.

[worldly horizon]

That’s what I’ve been doing is just waiting but I literally have not seen a combat blade in days lol

[unreal falcon]

Yea i think its investigation

[austere epoch]

thats it

investiagtion

[patent sapphire]

holy

[storm laurel]

the dream

[austere epoch]

O_O

[silver ridge]

I’ve been waiting for investigation and espionage for my heresy hat

[slow fog]

Holy shamoley

[patent sapphire]

only 3k melkcoin

[odd cape]

does replacing a contract change the amount of tokens it gives

[slow fog]

Praise the Omnissiah

[storm laurel]

milk coin

contracts from sour milk

[silver ridge]

I don’t think I can go back to power sword without power cycler

As much as dmg is nice

[patent sapphire]

im not going to buy it for that much as i have a very similar one lol

[slow fog]

Im really hoping the do X missions on Y difficulty penance gets a drop down to show what you're missing on release

[signal cipher]

Update it works about half the time

Did some testing

[dull pier]

So anybody do the 100% acc BS penance with a Vet? Im trying to do it but its not workin

[stuck ridge]

Gonna put this here because I think it got buried in general, but has anyone else noticed Performance dropping in the Water Silo, specifically right at the end Arena where you fight the corruptors?

I think there's some sort of entity or artefact there that's bugged out and is really chugging performance.

[lapis bramble]

I don't have this "Investigation" mission done.

[spiral goblet]

I have a friend who managed it, but that was after a lot of attempts. It's very hard, especially since you generate ammo for doing your job as a vet, and I'm not sure hitting armor counts as a hit.

[lapis bramble]

it must be that, I guess.

[sharp locust]

Just cheese it

All the hard penance can be cheesed except for the psyker

[spiral goblet]

Heresy!

[slow fog]

Psyker really got the shaft on penances

[dull pier]

@sharp locust how for that specific 1, do u know a way

[slow fog]

for that one

Alt F4 near the end

Rejoin

Shoot your last rounds

donezo

[sharp locust]

Shot as much as you want, leave 1 ammo, alt f4, rejoin and get your shot

[dull pier]

ok thx

[uncut tangle]

Make sure you don't kill the elites

At the end as well or you get more ammo

[dull pier]

ok

[sharp locust]

All the penance can be cheesed until you're a psyker

Every psyker penance are a pain

[slow fog]

The BB a dog one is fine

I think I got it in my first game haha

[sharp locust]

Its more of a pain when you do it but game dont reward you

I did 1v1 a boss with BB only twice

[spiral goblet]

🙈🙉🙊

[sharp locust]

Never got the reward

[uneven halo]

anyone down to help me get the solo a nurgle or ogryn?

[spiral goblet]

The Emperor protects.

[sharp locust]

Good luck with that, the penance dont always work

I did it twice and nothing

[uncut tangle]

It's kind of a silly achievement, you have to rely on your allies not doing 1 bit of damage to the boss

[uneven halo]

yeah i heard if even a barrel blows it and damages it doesn't give it

[slow fog]

It should absolutely be 95% damage, not 100%

[sharp locust]

I know, but it didnt happen

[slow fog]

Just to account for a stray round, or swing of a sword

[sharp locust]

I recorded the whole shit

Rewatched it twice, making sure it didnt got any hit beside bb

[slow fog]

Is the 10 minute completion on one wound cheesable?

[spiral goblet]

lower, even. 80%. it honestly should be to reward a psyker clutching when everyone else goes down or are fighting off a horde.

[sharp locust]

Yes

Alt f4 again

They wont fix it

[high cairn]

Nah, some you can’t on various classes. Like you can’t cheese the Zealot Grenade snipe or the kill a mutant while dashing

[sharp locust]

Yeah but those arent hard

[solemn parcel]

you guys think this is worth upgrading to orange? i know the toughness on chained might not be the most desirable but it's been helping me a fair amount https://i.imgur.com/K1vJSez.jpeg

[high cairn]

Hard is relative IG. If you have a 4 stack, even the Psyker ones get a fair bit easier

[slow fog]

Nah toughness on hit blessings are great for melee classes

I consider the toughness on multihit blessing on the eviscirator essential

[solemn parcel]

yeah i really like it

[slow fog]

Its more survivability, which is what you need as the O machine

[sharp locust]

Psyker arent really hard, they're just plain bad and cancer

[solemn parcel]

i saw this as a blue in the shop and i was like ayo and i picked it up

[sharp locust]

Beside, the solo boss one dont even work

[outer bloom]

somebody has started putting out the damage calculators for darktide

The words "multiplicative" and "partially multiplicative" appear multiple times and mean different things

[high cairn]

Huh

How is something PARTIALLY multiplicative

[slow fog]

Might be interacting with soft/hard caps?

[sharp locust]

But wait for the witch coming back, you can cheese it