gameplay-help

[hollow scaffold]

ditch the spark 'ed and become one of the boys

[wraith haven]

context

[slow fog]

Psyker might not feel great until you get a lightning or voidstrike staff

[plucky river]

I got the lightning staff and idk what it fully does. I'm rep 19 and still kinda cinfused

[slow fog]

Honestly I havent used the lightning staff in game

[plucky river]

It seems to stun and do dmg. But it seems the other staff is better

[sturdy karma]

quick questions or two, do coherency bonuses from the same class stack, and does any one have a good way of keeping up on warp charges? i seem to be running out constantly unless i hard focus brain burst and ignore mobs almost entirely making me quite useless outside of one roll to the team

also the lightning staf hits a number of enemies base on charge in a cone originating from your cross hair. it stuns most characteres even some armoured while doing multiple ticks of dot damage and then a final jolt of high intensitity damage to each enemy chained, the primary target takes the largest jolt

[slow fog]

The voidstrike staff rules.
Lightning seems more CC focused, but it does do good damage on armour I believe

[rare cliff]

Is Heresy difficulty still bugged to always have the endless horde modifier?

[sturdy karma]

void staff and lightning both do excelent armour damage, lightning is more spamable at close range as a couple of uncharged secondaries will clear most mobs

[slow fog]

Pick up the 4% on coherency allies to generate a charge. It's not perfectly reliable, but generally pretty good

[sturdy karma]

ahh ill stick with that then ty

just s shame like 4/5ths of our feats revolve around brain bust and warp charges.... would love to see it actualy get some..versatility, like wrack and ruin triggering on any enemy not just eleites

[slow fog]

If you want soulfire the level 30 talent does the business

[sturdy karma]

i know i plan on picking that im one mission from thirty :p

[slow fog]

Turns the push into a horde delete button

[sturdy karma]

ooh one last question, any one kno the exact cool down numbers on psykentics wrath?

[digital flume]

the penance for vantage sharpshooter to complete each mission of each type, im currently stuck at 5/7. are there any other missions do to finish that penance

[turbid dock]

Superb control, you can just charge it halfway and unleash it, anytime there are 3 ragers and 2 maulers running at you shock away

[rich cobalt]

there's repair, strike, raid, espionage, disruption, assassination, and investigation for mission types. disruption was availiable in like the first few hours of the preorder beta but had to get pulled out of rotation for a map issue

[turbid dock]

With 6 warpcharges you can actually kill dreg riflemen on heresy it's amazing

[vital robin]

[plucky river]

What rep do u get golden teir?

[idle kite]

do bosses scale with character level?

[honest ice]

so do grims and scriptures have set spawn points or can they just show up anywhere

[sturdy karma]

the grims seem to

[stable ferry]

They have multiple spawn locations that they can appear in

[rich cobalt]

i don't believe so, but it can probably feel like that with how you can easily assume that item level directly corresponds to weapon power/damage dealt. what Item level does is provide points to fill in the bars, so if you ONLY cared about damage done, when comparing two of the same weapon, the one with the bigger bar will do more damage, regardless of what rarity or item level (some weapon qualities or stats can further modify that, though)

[sturdy karma]

ran a mission three times found the grims in the same spot all three times

[blissful flower]

There are multiple potential locations for both Scrips and Grims. The locations are static, but whether they're in there isn't

[rich cobalt]

so every weapon has a base set of stats that is uniform across every instance of that weapon regardless of item level and rarity, and then the bars provide bonuses to those stats, with the higher item level filling the bars with more juice. presumably there is a max itemlevel somewhere where all the bars are 100% full but we've not seen it yet.

[minor flower]

Any deadeye penance recommendations?

[slow fog]

Yeah after being underwhelmed with soulfire, I was playing around with the level 30 talents in the psykhanium and realised that in this case, soulfire rules

[turbid dock]

Up to 6 different locations per map

[tranquil grove]

Penance ruined because enemy died as I pulled trigger. very cool

[sturdy karma]

@turbid dock ty i didnt know\

[rich cobalt]

i'm having extreme trouble getting my psyker new pants for popping a dog. just bad timing where the dog doesn't go for me, or if it is going for me it's too far away so i have to vent, or it's too close so no time to even charge

[tranquil grove]

Feels like everytime I attempt this penance I end up wasting my time.

[sturdy karma]

admitedly i only managed to get those pants because im become hyper paranoid the second i hear a hound howl or a pox bomber tick

[turbid dock]

I don't think you even need to pair it with the soulfire staff, just get 6 charges via bursting then run in and F goodbye entire platoon, goes through cover too

[sturdy karma]

health bar corruption.. it scares me

[slow fog]

Yeah I wasn't meaning the staff.
Good to hear it goes through cover, I figured it would but I wasn't sure.
I'm just imagining that level where you go through the scanner then open into a set of densely populated bridges and how good it would be there

[indigo hedge]

Yo when a weapon stat says it increases power, what exactly does that mean?

[slow fog]

I think damage, but spelt different

[indigo hedge]

gotcha

[rich cobalt]

power is probably legacy language from VT, in VT2 it was more damage but here power is likely some variable in the damage calculation or it actually is damage.

[turbid dock]

Power affected damage, cleave and stagger in vt2

Day one of beta you could access the dusty map

[slow fog]

I believe there was a mission type that came out on day one and hasn't been in rotation since

[shut sand]

What are all 7 mission types?

[silk crypt]

Assassination, strike, raid, investigation, espionage, repair, disruption

[fickle lintel]

is a +2 stamina trinket only supposed to give 1 extra bar of stamina? hard to tell since stamina is counted as a percent not a overall number

[quasi pelican]

Btw can the vet get the dueling sword?

[cursive citrus]

so i noticed i have 2 extra stamina bars when i use a grenade vs either of my weapons. Is that intentional, or a bug? I have a +2 stamina trinket, but not sure if its bugged and only working without a gun equipped?

[slow fog]

Stamina gives one extra bar per - it should let you push more, not give you additional running length etc

[silk crypt]

1 Stamina bar actually has three state, fully white, mid greyed and fully depleted, so I guess one stamina bar counts as two points

[bold bronze]

Anyone know what the item power conversion is for trinkets vs weapons? I've been getting item power 80 trinkets, but the contracts store has one for 125 power and I'm curious if it would boost my other store's power next hour.

[rich cobalt]

if it's like vermintide, then yes, i believe so. in VT2 stamina was shield icons, and 1 stamina was denoted as a broken shield and 2 was a complete shield. it's very likely that there's a half-bar or faded bar state for stamina which would be the 1 stamina.

[quasi pelican]

It's probably my favorite looking melee weapon but I've only seen Psykers use it so I want to make sure I'm not waiting for something that won't get unlocked

[honest ice]

oh boy

[topaz condor]

How much does the difficulty spike feel between Malice and Heresy? Want to mentally prepare myself

[honest ice]

you're gonna be seeing so many trapper and bombers that they'll start to feel like family

[slow fog]

It was pretty extreme in my experience, but there has been a patch which should theoretically have made it less of a spike

Yeah extra specials are the main thing. IMO you see about 3x the amount of ogryns turning up

[topaz condor]

I just wanna try doing the Heresy level penances on zealot, healing to full and speed running it, so I was wondering how tedious it might end up being

[honest ice]

in some case you need to be level 30 to do those

[rich cobalt]

i have no idea how the hell you do the speedrun one aside from a premade 30 team just going as hard as possible for speed

[honest ice]

case in point ogryn's charge through 4 specific elites penance
because you need his feat that allows him to charge through them

[topaz condor]

Pretty close to that, will look for a team then once reaching 30

[turbid dock]

Fewer specials/elites than endless horde malice, but they are all much tankier

[topaz condor]

Also which weapon would be best to use for the zealot mutant challenge? Feels like the Evicerator isn't really cutting it (get it? 🗿)

[slow fog]

Combat axe. I believe it has the highest single hit potential

[indigo harbor]

You have to be charging and the mutant has to be charging at the same time - thunder hammer does it easy

[topaz condor]

I actually have one! Feels like I need a 4 man for this one as well cause there seem to be always a random who will ignore your request to not kill it

[slow fog]

Mutant doesn't need to be charging at the some time I don't think.

If you're really struggling, go to the Psykhanium and play around with it. No matter what you do, you'll need to weaken it first

[quasi pelican]

Is the shovel the only unique vet weapon?

[slow fog]

Technically Ogryn gets a shovel too

[turbid dock]

Get into the LFG in this discord, no bad experiences so far

[indigo harbor]

@slow fog It does need to be charging, the in game description text is wrong, the steam achievement has the correct text.

[quasi pelican]

Fair enough, are there any unique vet melee weapons though?

[slow fog]

Uhhh, does zealot get power sword? If not, that

[indigo harbor]

@slow fog @topaz condor You can "activate" a Thunder Hammer (or chain weapon), preload the heavy attack and charge at the same time, your swing will come out near the end of your charge distance. It helps if you hold down the charge to "lock on" to the mutant.

[slow fog]

I've already got it haha, got it before level 5 on my zealot lmao

[indigo harbor]

Zealot does not get power sword - though we do get the claw, chain sword, two handed chain sword, chain axe, and thunder hammer

[turbid dock]

Chainsword wouldn't work because you will get grabbed before the chainsawing has finished (correct me if I'm wrong)

[slow fog]

There you go, power sword it is

[quasi pelican]

Fair enough

[indigo harbor]

@slow fog Yeah it's one of the achievements you can get lucky on pretty easily also

[slow fog]

I was shooting for it deliberately and had a party who was cool with helping me (pug)

[indigo harbor]

@turbid dock It doesn't need to be charging you.

[tribal dove]

Hey everyone, jsut a question in regards to the shop and how it presents new options every hour, does it increase the rating of presented items if yourself has higher equiped items? or is it lvl based or something else entirley?

[topaz condor]

I've been trying stubbornly to get it in solo queue since lvl 10 I think 😂

[fringe panther]

Does Ghost have an internal CD? This seems OP as hell wow

[mortal wasp]

The grenade no bounce achievement was pretty easy too.

Got lucky on a mission and could land it right at headshot height in a horde

[slow fog]

To be fair I think the Ogryn's shovel probably operates differently, but yeah other than that power sword

[turbid dock]

With the force sword sometimes he runs away so quickly that it breaks the leash and I don't get the damage, thunder hammer might be more consistent because bop

[slow fog]

Yeah I had both non-difficulty locked cosmetics on my vet at level 3. First game I got the headshot one, next game got the grenade one haha

[indigo harbor]

@fringe panther Just land your hits and you're good. @tribal dove Shop refresh is "trust level" based @turbid dock We're talking about two different things me thinks as zealot can't use force swords

[slow fog]

The grenade one was surprisingly easy given it has a .1% completion rate. Just need to practice it a little bit in the psykhanium

[turbid dock]

Force sword has the same animation/stuck-in pose as chainswords, so it might apply to it as well

[indigo harbor]

@turbid dock Fair - I recommend the hammer it's super easy to bonk out the achievement on tier one heh

[slow fog]

It might be worth testing which does more damage in the psykhanium, mutant has a weird armour type. Probably the thunder hammer, but who knows

[indigo harbor]

@slow fog Hammer one taps w/ charge on tier 1 - i imagine others do also

[turbid dock]

The mutant armor typed is bugged out in the meat grinder it just says dreg rager

[slow fog]

Ah nice, I'm only level 11 on my zealot so haven't got my hands on the thunder hammer yet

[slow fog]

It's the same for the flamer I think and maybe one other

[turbid dock]

Yea most of the specials in the meat grinder are bugged

[slow fog]

"Oh no, I mucked up and hit them in the dreg rager"

It's funny cause that armour type seems to be really strong, like the armoured rager goes down easier than the unarmoured one since it has flak or carapace

[sour depot]

Coherency

[turbid dock]

Coherency?

[iron ledge]

is chain axe good?

[mortal wasp]

You get different buffd from different classes. If a vet is in aura of you and kills a special/elite you get ammo

[tepid gust]

Hoped in a match with 4 players and a bot ? anyone else have this happen to them

[mortal wasp]

Yep

[slow fog]

Yeah coherency by default just regens toughness, but I believe every class also has a specific thing they add as well. Psyker adds +10% damage etc

[turbid dock]

10% damage to elites

[iron ledge]

how do i tell what mission i havnt done?

[topaz citrus]

what's the best melee for psyker generally? ive been using dueling sword but it feels kinda meh

[sour depot]

Yes, really good single target dmg

[slow fog]

I'm unsure if those perks also affect the holder.

Force sword if you can get the deflect ranged is the best

[turbid dock]

Duelling sword actually really strong (for psyker) but the force sword special is just too good, esp for assassinations

[mortal wasp]

Check the achievements for missions the ones you havent done are 0 missions out of 50

[floral birch]

Do people offer help here for people that don’t have a group of people to help?

[slow fog]

Yeah the dodge range on the sabre rules. Force Sword is kind of unbeatable due to its spec and ranged block trait though

[topaz citrus]

i hate the force sword attack pattern for killing hordes if need be, feels like i always get hit from enemies slightly beside the one i've hit

[mortal wasp]

LFG cjannel I think trg knoght

[turbid dock]

I feel like I have to spam push for abit and then resume combos, I do light heavy light loop and it works ok

[slow fog]

Melee isn't really the anti horde thing in the psykers toolkit, a voidstrike staff is MUCH more effective

[minor oxide]

Does character height have any effect on melee attack range?

[floral birch]

Okay because I need help with some Ogryn challenges that involve staying together for a whole mission with coherency.

[topaz citrus]

i've been running palpy staff for higher difficulties, otherwise i'd agree

[turbid dock]

The force sword push attack is also bonkers you can floor a crusher/mauler/rager with it it's insane

[slow fog]

I mean lightning staff is (apparently) very good, but I would imagine the VS has better horde clear

[iron ledge]

how tell what missions ive done?

[topaz citrus]

yeah, you'd be correct

i use it for the stun primarily, super clutch to stop explodey boys who make it in range to gib your team

[slow fog]

Which isn't to say that lightning has bad horde clear, just that the VS is a horde bulldozer

[turbid dock]

#gameplay-help message

[iron ledge]

ty

[turbid dock]

VS outclasses the flamer staff imo, since it interacts really well with the (10% chance to quell 10% on kill) innate feat

[iron ledge]

okay, where find disruption missions?

[turbid dock]

Day 1 of beta had it, never been in rotation since

[iron ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-whatever-gif-23592041

[old locust]

what does thermal resistance affect

[sour depot]

B.E.T.A.

[old locust]

does thermal resistance do anything specific

[turbid dock]

Probably less heat generated per shot?

[sour depot]

My guess, less heat per shoot or less dmg taken when overheated

[slow fog]

Yeah it generally goes
Groundpound staff: Trash
Flamer staff: OK to good
Lightning/VS: Makes psyker go from good to god

[topaz citrus]

imo lightning is just by far the only real choice, esp on higher difficulties

the ability to fully imobilize a pack of elites pretty much indefinitely while your other guys dps them down is insane, have won so many runs off of it

[fickle lintel]

i think it does increase sprinting distance im getting atleast a second and a half extra with +2 stam, im using my phone to time it so its off by my reacton time which is about 100ms

[wet bloom]

What does a braced autogun do

[topaz citrus]

killing hordes with the VS is fun, but i find that so many more runs are lost to elite packs in higher difficulty than hordes for VS to really pay out as much

[old locust]

Is there any way to earn the one type of currency at level 30the uh, contract currency

[plain nimbus]

so far only weekly contracts

[old locust]

lame

[sour depot]

Selling organs?

[smoky ferry]

For the ogryn penance of something in your eye, what counts as a corruptor?

[near cloud]

Anyone doing groups to get cliffhanger penance since randoms kill the hordes?

[nova cipher]

the big yellow eye in the clean water mission

[coral socket]

I need cliffhanger as well, we could team up

[turbid dock]

I'm waiting for the game to come out and for private rooms to be introduced

[smoky ferry]

Thanks

[junior portal]

Wait, that's what it is? Wow, this whole time I thought it was any enemy that directly accrued Corruption on you.

[dusk hemlock]

I never use staff i think famas laser gun better than staff and melee alway good for horse in any class

[turbid dock]

Tbh the recon lasgun is pretty baller on any class (on malice)

[slow fog]

Have you tried the lightning or the voidstrike. VS rules

[bold saffron]

Wants to Stab Nvidia

[warm wasp]

How are people rating flamer on zealot? I’ve been running boltgun or shotty with eviserator and they feel pretty good

[dusk hemlock]

I see many guy play like that and they just made me angry they spam voidstrike to my face in horde and i cant even see what mob will attack me and i dead

[topaz citrus]

if you run flamer you dont have any way at all to deal with ranged specials if u need, kinda bad imo

[sick salmon]

any fix for the bug where only 2 items show up on the shop?

[slow fog]

I'd recommend you try it in the psykhanium. The flame staff at least behaved a lot differently than I was expecting. A lot better at armour and a lot weaker on unarmoured

[tiny granite]

isn't it vet exclusive? I've never seen other classes use it

[warm wasp]

That’s my feeling as well. In pug groups, I kinda need to do everything… boltgun helps with ranged specials so much

[cunning rivet]

which one is better?

[sick salmon]

left IMO

[uncut verge]

Well shit, my game is bricked.

Attempted verify and reinstall. Setting a keybind to ] key has completely crashed the game.

Where TF are the keybindings stored?? I need to reset them but I can't. Opening keybinding menu also instant crashes game

[iron ledge]

c.h.a.l.l.e.n.g.e

[slow fog]

Right has a better trait imo, left obvs has better stats

[eager garden]

Okay, I gotta ask
How the hell do we pull off the Cliffhanger penance? Am I missing some trick to getting more bodies going the same direction for the push?

I’ve gotten 17 in one go, but I can’t seem to either get enough off with the push, or get enough in one location where I can push
Any advice?

[sour depot]

Git gud

[fringe panther]

What traits should i equip if im going to do grimmoire runs? Will +1 wounds help?

[sour depot]

Coruption reduction

[turbid dock]

Psyker can use them

[blissful flower]

Max HP, Corruption from Grims eat a set amount quickly then slows majorly, more HP means less impact from Grims

[junior portal]

Semi-relatedly for Curios: Mainly asking for the benefit of knowing now before I regret in the future: is Toughness worth grabbing on Curios for Zealot or is that just bait?

[slow fog]

Toughness seems good for zealot. The more you have the more is restored on your charge since its percentage based. I'm only 11 on my zealot so far though

[turbid dock]

Since toughness helps you stay relevant in ranged encounters I don't see why it could be a trap

[kind matrix]

What happened to the previous maps? Some of them I don't see in rotation anymore. I thought the new maps/missions added were supposed to be cumulative? Also before the conditions varied. There were some without special conditions, some with reduced visibility (super hard!), and others with more or less hordes. Now though there is just greater hordes and no special conditions. Is this a bug or intended for all this?

[slow fog]

Yeah also this. You're going to be wanting to close into melee as much as possible so being able to shrug off more ranged fire seems good

[slow fog]

Maps are going in and out of rotation. I believe some of them may have been causing performance or crashing issues, do theyll show up later once fixed

[vagrant raven]

Beta will probably remain on limited rotation until the official launch. They cut one (possibly 2) missions that had issues

[raw moss]

is it just me or do plasma guns have atrocious ammo?

[severe canopy]

will items and level etc carry over after beta ?

[kind matrix]

@slow fog I see thanks

[north wolf]

Does psychic communion procc on melee? I can't get it to procc with sword in meat grinder.

[subtle urchin]

yo for the contracts, i have 2 annoying ones, collect 12 grims and scriptures. should i reroll? are the other ones less painful than these in public lobbies?

[raven dove]

is there anywhere in game I can find what all these terms mean?

[slow fog]

Not at my pc. What is the ability description?

[north wolf]

"Whenever you or an ally in coherency kills an enemy, you have a 4% chance to gain a warp charge".

Ah, I just got some. Just got unlucky I guess.

[turbid dock]

It works for any kill afaik

[slow fog]

Oh right, im not sure. By the description it should. I know it works on other kills in the psykhanium, including BB, which is fun cause it can give you 2 stacks

[kind matrix]

Ah, thanks. Well hopefully they continue increases the missions if possible like they originally wanted to.

[north wolf]

I was just unlucky on the 4% was killing stuff for a few minutes didn't get a stack. Eventually got one.

Also: I just got a Recon Lasgun. Thinking "recon" means it's like a sniper. NOPE it's going BRRRRRRRR.

[worn sluice]

how in gods good grace is it possible to complete the "make every shot count penance" for veteran

[vagrant raven]

Revolver, and a steady hand

[north wolf]

Oh nice. I got put into a game JUST before the final boss. easiest EXP of my life.

[sour depot]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-palpatine-is-it-possible-learn-this-power-gif-17185041

[inner river]

I could swear I've done all 7 mission types (the two assassinations, the scanning, the cryo cells, the ammo theft, the smeltery, and the water purifying) but it says I've only done 6/7 on my Sharpshooter. Anyone else seeing that or am I just goin nuts?

[stuck ridge]

That seems like the easiest way to get Just a Flesh Wound imo.

Get down to 1 wound quickly, then just complete the mission.

[twilit socket]

the only way to have gotten 7/7 is if you did the desert mission that was available day 1 of the beta and then never again

[tough cove]

anyone else just got disconnected from server and can't reconnet?

[idle gulch]

I haven't. I've just had to avoid using it so far. Haven't found an answer whether it's the staff itself or a combo of things. Sorry.

[stuck ridge]

Types are:

• Disruption (Not currently available, was causing major crashes)
• Espionage (Upload data to cogitator)
• Raid (Steal Ammo)
• Repair (Fix the Power Plant)
• Assassination
• Strike (Kill Daemons)
• Investigation (Scan Plague Samples)

[inner river]

I see. Guess I can't get the helmet just yet then. Oh well.

[outer sierra]

I swear i've dashed and killed a mutant for that damn preacher penance... any tips on getting that lol

[sour depot]

U don't need helmet trooper. Emperor protects

[dense shoal]

Quick question, what is impact, specifically referring to the second tier 2 feat for preacher

[inner river]

True, but it's drip or drown

[bold saffron]

Too bad I'll never be able to buy this sword

[shut sand]

What's the best way to get the sharpshooter penance "On Overwatch"?

[dense shoal]

only push stab

[sour depot]

U will find better one, with power 450+

[shut sand]

What's push stab

[dense shoal]

hold right click > hold left click

[bold saffron]

I accidentally got it when I DC'ed right at the end of a Match on a Evac and i got back and evac'd and it somehow counted

They should probs change it so you can't do thats tbh

[turbid dock]

Sounds like they waited for you 10/10 pubs

[shut sand]

Yeah I tried that, alt f4'd at the end of a malice run and couldn't get back in game fast enough

[bold saffron]

@turbid dock Yup!

[wispy oasis]

This worth getting or should I just wait for the next refresh?

[bold saffron]

Ngl the Full set of this is probably the best looking armor set for Sharpshooter

[shut sand]

I don't like how your jumpsuit changes from red to black, hurts my OCD

[turbid dock]

A bird in hand is better than two in the bush

[bold saffron]

the Dead Eye Uni is supposed to look like that

Also I Love my RNG with my Plasma gun

[sour depot]

Do u like this gun? If no, i would wait for something fitting my playstyle

[bold saffron]

Anytime I wanna Explode in a Firey Death Taking a Swath of Horde with me My Character understands how too cool it as i try and blow it the fuck up

[wanton estuary]

anyone else finding the Just a Flesh Wound isn't triggering? everyone was saying it triggers if you just die before 10 minutes but ive had like 5 runs now that should have done it

[hearty adder]

would this be good?

[gleaming marsh]

any tips on getting the psyker penance where you have to suicide 3 elites?

[dense shoal]

If you see three ragers, kamakaze immediately

[signal cipher]

Do you like braced auto gun? If so yes

[dense shoal]

they typically spawn in threes and die even at full health from it, also they stick to you like glue

[bold saffron]

Which you will see like 4 Of them Lol on Malice Endless or above

[north wolf]

Got my first epic as a drop.

[glad bramble]

Anyone know the max power level for items in Darktide?

[stone wing]

over 500, that's what we know so far

[turbid dock]

Lightning staff helps to soften them up

[limpid vine]

Can someone explain this
https://gyazo.com/b2a99b91698e95b58d3e9b71574ea9f8

[turbid dock]

You get 20% max health

[limpid vine]

And what % of that is health?

[little stream]

100%

[polar leaf]

https://www.twitch.tv/gankalf42o streaming ogryn from lvl 1

[white oasis]

What does the Special Ammo of the Combat Shotgun do?

[blissful flower]

Primary trait of the Curio is +16% Max Health, the Secondary trait also rolled + Max Health.

The bonuses are additive, so if you're on Zealot, that's 200 HP + 20% = 240 HP

[little stream]

wider spread

[glad bramble]

Holy shit, how do you even get that? I'm max level and only seen 461.

[limpid vine]

Ah ok, so it's just an oversight that one is Max and one is just Health?

[candid idol]

is there an alternative way to get melk? i'm black toes and taller ants

[blissful flower]

Yes, it's just inconsistency in the wording

[little stream]

what does this mean

[candid idol]

melkcoin

[blissful flower]

The only way to get Melk's scrips are through his contracts atm

[little stream]

just the weeklies if i am interpreting you correctly

[candid idol]

Darn.

[turbid dock]

Is fatshark really serious in having us do 4x weeklies, one for each character

[north wolf]

Oh I did not know different weapons have armor pen values. My heavy laspistol could deal (some) damage trough carapace armor. Recon rifle does not.

[little stream]

they may add shared currency due to community backlash some day but yeah if you're determined to do them all for each class every week then.. yes

[blissful flower]

All the weapons have various differing base stats, and the bars are % modifiers on top of those base stats (no we don't know the base stats). So a Knife with high penetration will still do less than a combat axe with low penetration vs armor cus the Axe has higher innate armor piercing

[little stream]

which one is chasm station

[blissful flower]

Multiple missions take place in Chasm station, check the mission before joining

[north wolf]

I wish they showed proper stats honestly.
It's quite useless to compare a gun that does -----|----- damage with a gun that does ------|---- damage. I need numbers. NUMBERS!

[little stream]

i cant read they dont teach that at the schola progenium so must not be important

[rocky sierra]

Yo isn't there a way to get extra weekly currency at lvl 30?

[blissful flower]

From the actual patch notes: 🤣

[honest ice]

is a chain hit whenever i hit multiple people in one swing?

[blissful flower]

Chained hits is either

Melee: Second attack or beyond in a combo string
Ranged: Second hit or beyond

So an Ogryn club with +Toughness on Chained Hit will start regening toughness on the second swing

[uncut verge]

Linear too, if you can line up on an approaching horde at head level it should work well

[uncut verge]

That s was a joke and he gave numbers for the changes

[dense shoal]

I'll just ask again real quick, what is Impact, specifically when it's talking about the tier 2 zealot skill

[uncut verge]

Knock back force

[north wolf]

Yeah it's very annoying. I just got dropped an epic recon rifle, over my blue recon rifle, and I assume it is better, but it's hard to tell. The blue one had a MUCH higher rate of fire, going trough all your ammo in the blink of an eye. It was true DAKKA.

[dense shoal]

So like stagger? or just how far away it sends them?

[uncut verge]

Both I believe

[dense shoal]

Welp, I'll try it more off and on I guess

[north wolf]

Also: Psyker only starts to slowly become fun at level 15, before that it was a SLOG, 15 helps a bit.

[uncut verge]

You can easily toggle it on and off in the meat grinder

[dense shoal]

True, forgot about that thank you

[little stream]

later level psyker looks very fun before that it just seems like you're spending a lot of time popping 1 guy i could have easily shot

[turbid dock]

Hedge memeing it up

[uncut verge]

Yeah he posted the real numbers too

[north wolf]

Yeah my early level experience was a lot: "Holding left click on a guy aaaaaand someone else killed him".

[turbid dock]

Tag one and pop the other, best distraction

[north wolf]

Early game there's usually only one there. Now on higher difficulties I do get to pop.

[little stream]

at higher difficulties a psyker with the lightning staff is indispensable and have made me want to play the class next, tied with ogryn. do not see the appeal of sharpshooter, everyone has guns

[copper sleet]

laughs in bolter

[north wolf]

Hot take: Pop should not be a "weapon" you equip, it should just happen on a special button.

[turbid dock]

You have grenades, they do some stagger

It's not much

[little stream]

why throw one when you could throw the whole box

[copper sleet]

I straight up shoot every mob that the psyker tries to pop, just instincts

[turbid dock]

Oh yea they finally buffed ogryn to carry 2 boxes

[rocky sierra]

Sharpshooter casually bursting an entire monstrosity of all its HP along with taking care of every specialist. Also if they are a smart sharpshooter you get free ESP on specialists like every 10 seconds.

[pulsar tundra]

^^

[uncut verge]

Break the habit (unless the enemy is an immediate threat of course)

You’re costing your teammate power

[little stream]

i haven't seen it in malice or heresy, but if you say so. as a zealot i also have a bolter and am usually closer.

[copper sleet]

Well I can try, but seeing a glowing blue head alerts me to fire at it ASAP fr, they should just make psyker get warp charges on assist

[rocky sierra]

Sharp also has bolter with 40% more ammo and they SHOULD be doing like 40% more dmg to weakspots with the right build.

[pulsar tundra]

I've dropped a good number of specialists at range

[turbid dock]

They do if they charged it more than half (I think)

[uncut verge]

Yeah it was automatic for me at first too but I realized it wasn't helping and just wasting my ammo and their warp charges

EDIT: And yeah, that would help @copper sleet

[little stream]

never had a problem with bolter ammo, it could probably be nerfed. just use it for specials

[rocky sierra]

Also their combat ability boosts ranged dmg by 50% on top of whatever passives they bring. So yeah Veteran literally just shts damage.

[gleaming wind]

Love whole lobby dc on damnation and we lose during boss fight because bots are bots 👍

[little stream]

well that's some fine theory but in practice it's usually me and inevitably the other zealot killing basically everything.

[pulsar tundra]

^^ makes them tasty treats for nurgle beasts giving other people flanking opportunities - but I found most players don't have the where-with-all to do their jobs.

[turbid dock]

Can we have like a dota pause function or smth so the last remaining guy can wait for people to RC

[rocky sierra]

Is damnation even worth running? Mastercrafted stuff still drops on Heresy difficulty right

[little stream]

or the psyker with the void staff

[pulsar tundra]

not sure whats worse - ogryns that face tank hordes instead of bullrushing into the back lines to clear fighter lanes or zealots that eat up ammo and try to play back line support...

[turbid dock]

I like the void staff, if you kill enemies with it you can hear them scream in agony as they die

[little stream]

sharpshooter spotted

[turbid dock]

They all got burnt during the first 3 days of beta with the bugged ranged enemies

[rocky sierra]

Idk how ppl run out of ammo as Sharp...like you literally need to just be holding M1 with boltgun 24/7

[wary oyster]

Heretics all

[arctic hull]

Autoguns

[pulsar tundra]

zealots literally taking every opportunity to pick up ammo the whole way - and then never using stumm grenades

[little stream]

is the sharpshooter bolter also the spearhead bolter?

[rocky sierra]

ye

[turbid dock]

They use all 3 at the end of the event in the dropship

[rigid wasp]

How do I unlock the penance for Veteran Sharpshooter where you have to Kill 3 Enemies with a Frag Grenade without it bouncing

[little stream]

i think if they could get any boost it'd be a bigger mag than the 15 shot spearhead. havent even seen a plasma gun

[rocky sierra]

Ong I never see zealots use their stun grenades unless someone is already down

[pulsar tundra]

or if you've already thrown your frag...

[little stream]

i use them on static hordes and reapers im usually running out but then so is the sharpshooter

[wanton seal]

i thought thats how i was supposed to use them

[arctic hull]

It presumably involves throwing one at extreme range so ot explodes before it hits the ground

[rocky sierra]

Killing horde vs losing a health state

[pulsar tundra]

You're asking for the thumbscrews... aren't you. Stumm Grenade -> Charge into the hord

[little stream]

at higher difficulty zealot should be using ranged a decent amount though just less than you, the alternative is them running across the map and dying

[pulsar tundra]

your terms are acceptible.... I think thats just good role-playing honestly

[wanton seal]

I just use the flamer on high diff. I get as close to only melee as possible without my team getting mad lol

[little stream]

bolter is still the best TTK on specials and elites and bosses, so

[rocky sierra]

There's a few spots in the trainyard boss lvl where you can get a long range frag throw in. Also go back to velkon nerd

[turbid dock]

Their charge also gets stopped by a stray lasgun shot so it's not super easy to charge in unless they are that kind of player

[rocky sierra]

I mean using anything besides boltgun feels so bad rn lol. Lasgun doesn't even come close.

[pulsar tundra]

las and autogun are fine so far - but you can't hip fire them.

[wanton seal]

shotguns feel so boring to use. I wish the alt fire was different

[rigid wasp]

I'm really struggling with unlocking it tbh

[little stream]

braced autogun is basically just a mini bolter

[cedar mason]

i pulled this off on the raid mission in the final area. When the swarms all start spawning on opposite ends i just stood on one end and threw all the way across to the other

[rocky sierra]

It's just RNG. Gotta hope there's like a horde on a long sightline or smth

[tranquil grove]

Remember there is a trick to throwing grenades that explode early. Don't hold for the aiming line, just aim up and click for a quick toss. It should explode earlier

[pulsar tundra]

this is my feeling with flamer - takes forever, just nukes ammo, has little to no effect and makes it harder for everyone else to engage...

[rigid wasp]

Do I wanna throw the grnade high up in the air or low and far

[little stream]

theres no friendly fire on it, its actually amazing at clearing hordes and staggering in general

[arctic hull]

How far up? Underhand or overhand?

[cedar mason]

i aimed up until i saw the line disappear off in the distance

[tranquil grove]

I literally just said, don't hold for the aiming line, there is only one option to do that.

[rigid wasp]

so just equip the nade and quick left click

[pulsar tundra]

I was talking more the visual effect of a giant flamer going off - ie line of site for proper shooting

[wanton seal]

im the exact opposite. The flamer is just hoard begone in a can

[rocky sierra]

Me when my teammate uses a flamer while I am trying to headshot orgin specialists

[tranquil grove]

Aim up for an arc and quick left click in direction of incoming horde

[slow fog]

Go test it in the psykhanium, do the quick throw, not the aimed one. I literally got it on my second vet game

[rigid wasp]

I can't figure out how to quick throw

[pulsar tundra]

correct - the best is when the two ragers are right ontop of you a split second after the goofball with the flamer runs out of promethium

[arctic hull]

I kept getting woken up by people calling me once every hour and I probably got about 5 combined hours of sleep, so I'm gonna need an ELI5. Like, I literally mean "about how many degrees should I angle the throw for"

[tranquil grove]

you press the button

[rigid wasp]

You just quickly press the button like I said?

[rocky sierra]

Powersword moment. Ragers aren't even a problem lol

[pulsar tundra]

g-leftclick-1\2

[slow fog]

Go test it in the psykhanium, once you do it once it becomes apparent how simple it actually is

[rocky sierra]

I'm just wondering how mfs are completing a mission without taking melee dmg as Veteran. Seems actually impossible

[cedar mason]

has the espionage mission been in rotation at all thorughout the early access?

[pulsar tundra]

By being good at their jobs?

[turbid dock]

Press dodge and use push

[rigid wasp]

I'm trying that the nade just falls to the ground and takes forever to blow

[tranquil grove]

Taking no melee damage isn't even about being good at any job its just how much of a pussy you can be in a single match.

[slow fog]

Its tap left click

[somber pewter]

just cheese no melee dmg

[rigid wasp]

Just tap left click? No right click?

[slow fog]

Correct, you won't get an aim line

[tranquil grove]

where are people getting right click even from

[pulsar tundra]

left-handed mouse players

[pulsar tundra]

try it in the psychanum

[pulsar tundra]

or using melee strike with the gun and d+space

[faint field]

I saw reddit posts saying even if a item is higher color, stat, and looks better it might not be good

Is this good enough to spend the currency on?

[ashen rampart]

How can I tell who my teammates are when I am shooting? I keep shooting them instead of the enemy

[tight cedar]

nope, bonus damage against unarmoured isn't too bad but carapace is completely redundant plus the damage role isnt very good, talents are ok though

[rigid wasp]

Dude I'm missing something I can not throw a grenade with any combination of quick buttons or long buttons that will make it explode before it hits the ground

[tight cedar]

id keep hold of the currency for something really nice and just check the shop for a solid rolled blue XII

[north wolf]

Semi related, I assume you're 30?

[rocky sierra]

[cursive grove]

But that’s a lil secret

[faint field]

Yeah
Also you're right guy up above, I guess it's only be godly if it was flak armor

[timber fox]

ok hold on. So does the items power level matter at all or is it just the rarity and perks?

[pulsar tundra]

you're trying to air burst a grenadE?

[tranquil grove]

Also cool to see Heresy difficulty bugged with permanent endless horde on all of them even when they aren't marked with it. Makes doing penances super ez

[uncut verge]

Aim high (like over 45 degrees up) and click LMB without holding it.

You need a lot of vertical clearence and will bomb about 25m away from you

You can test it out in the Meat Grinder
@rigid wasp

[minor flower]

Hmm

[rocky sierra]

I'm telling you, loadup the trainyard assassination mission and at the very start past the tanks you should be able to mortar a crowd of enemies with the nade

[rapid surge]

is there a general role that zealots fill on higher difficulties

trying to figure out a playstyle sides left click spam since I mainly play 1/2 diff missions

[rocky sierra]

That's actually a really good roll. Makes the alt fire useful on higher difficulties since you can just wipe crowds. Although honestly still not better than boltgun

[north wolf]

Do people actually pick missions? I just hit quickplay.

[wary oyster]

I make it my mission to engage tankier enemies like crushers or ragers, or just protect my psyker and vets as much as I can so they can engage distant enemies I have trouble dealing with

[rocky sierra]

Vets should be killing tanky enemies regardless lmfao

[minor flower]

It's gonna hurt if something better comes along

[wary oyster]

yes, but its easier for them to do that if you can give them space to line up shots

[rocky sierra]

Wait for MC boltgun if you don't have one.

[rigid wasp]

I'll try it when I have the mission I'm only level 5

[minor flower]

I will 😦

[pulsar tundra]

is there a way to sell back or recycle old equipment or do you just drop it?

[rocky sierra]

Sucks that you can't earn extra weekly currency in any way. Literally overflowing with the other stuff.

[wary oyster]

discarding sells the item for a portion of its original price

[uncut verge]

Don't sell it, when crafting drops you'll likely want the trash for scrap parts instead

[grim mauve]

For the standard las gun, since it technically doesn't have a "second fire function" is the heresy achievement for sharpshooter workable just by ADSing?

[somber pewter]

ADS in secondary fire

[grim mauve]

alright. i had thought so since the las guns second function is flashlight and well... you know... memes lol

[pulsar tundra]

ah - didn't realize there was going to be a crafting system...

You know what this game really needs... is fishing and cooking skills

[subtle urchin]

my Praise the God emperor Penance is glitched, all 7 missions completed, but it isnt counting. anyone know a fix?

[lapis haven]

It says I have completed 6/7 missions is their a way to tell which mission I haven't done??

[nimble grotto]

sadly no

[tranquil grove]

Nope :)

[pulsar tundra]

clearly you didn't appease the machine-spirits

[restive eagle]

Any melee weapons that have bleed built in?

[tranquil grove]

Penances continue to show how well thought out they are by making you do progress but never telling you the progress. Truly this is a flawless system that wasn't made to push people towards the MTX store.

[wary oyster]

idk about built into the weapon, but I've gotten at least one chainsword that had + 2 bleed stacks on special

[ashen rampart]

What level should you be for the difficulty 2 missions ?

[restive eagle]

Is this your first tide game? If so, maybe like... 3 - 5 ish?

[rustic wigeon]

Is my Mouse fucked or has the spearhead boltgun really a min 2 Shot burst?

[blissful python]

If you aim with it it's one shot, if you just hip fire its burst

[white oasis]

Is the combat shotgun „bugged“ by chance ?
At point blank range I am doing way less damage then from far away with sights

[ashen rampart]

I am level 5 I think but it is just so hard to see anything

[restive eagle]

It's a learning curve for sure. Remember to always stick with at least 1 teammate (higher diffs you'll need to be with all 4 always.) Your push and dodge is your best friend. Ammo is limited, melee is infinite.

[ashen rampart]

Right, I am not sure who my teammates are though

In left for dead they had an outline that was blue I think and that helped a lot

[lyric yarrow]

You think the game is dark? True darkness is you have the bluelight filter/eye protection mode on your monitor on, making everything much dimmer xD 2 days into the beta till i remembered to turn it off haha. First time i saw my enemies past 10 meter range xD

[ashen rampart]

So my teammates have a red glowing thing in their middle I noticed but sometimes I don't think it is there at all

[slow fog]

I did it

[steep maple]

where did you do Cliffhanger?

[rigid wasp]

I think the issue is because the graphic are really low, I honestly cant tell the two apart either

[slow fog]

First part of the ammo loading mission, there is a little shitty bridge

[steep maple]

yeah, that's where I tried. Not enough spawned at the start and didn't want to hold group

[ashen rampart]

I can turn the graphics up but then it is too hard to aim and move and shoot

[slow fog]

Waited for a horde, F pushed, thought i'd failed, got it.

I asked for help and the whole party came and guarded there. PUG too

[buoyant verge]

best mission for preacher heresy achievement?

[steep maple]

oh that was nice of them!

[slow fog]

Yeah decent peeps out here in Oceania. Almost every time I've asked for help with a penance, the group has helped

[cursive grove]

the use all your ammo and 100 percent accuracy penance is so miserable

especially because its heresy and up

[kind spindle]

yeah i wanna get that armor so bad but im not that good....

[ashen rampart]

Is there a guide to make it run better? I already have used texture LOD override in driver configuration but wondering what else

[uncut verge]

Yeah, use a shotgun and play mostly melee avoiding ammo pickups

Not ideal way to play Vet at all, almost griefing to play that way in H4

[limpid vine]

I've been trying all week to knock 20 people off a ledge and without fail my teammates will do everything possible to stop me getting it, about to give up on this game

[cursive grove]

its def just griefing bro like im trusted to kill the snipers and shit but i have to run either the magnum or the shotgun and constantly be low ammo

[north wolf]

A lot of penances are borderline griefing.

[tranquil grove]

The challenges were definitely designed by Nurgle to fuck us over

[uncut verge]

[cursive grove]

what are your specs?

[tranquil grove]

Playing revolver 100% accuracy no ammo vet just straight up feels like I'm trolling my team

[somber pewter]

for the 100% acc has anyone tried using up most of there ammo until the end and quitting out and landing hits with what little ammo they have??

[restive eagle]

just gotta try to keep tabs on everyone in the midst of the chaos

[kind spindle]

100% half of these penances are just supporting griefing which is stupid. If these would be lower lvl then sure whatever cuz u not gonna gimp your team but on higher diff its like throwing or crashing your game constantly to get a quick reset without restarting the mission.

[wanton seal]

Thats their health. The colour indicates how low they are and if its not visable they are healthy. Not sure why its a thing with the bars

[leaden fjord]

How do u do that texture LOD override thing

[ashen rampart]

Nvidia profile inspector

[cursive grove]

i think we may be able to get away with shooting all your ammo by extraction, leaving and coming back using the one shot you have left and the extracting (teammates who will wait required)

[tranquil grove]

does it work?

[cursive grove]

something similar works for the no melee damage one

[ashen rampart]

Pentium 3, VDFX Voodoo 3 , 512mb ram

[tranquil grove]

Do you crash your game for a 'reconnect' or join on a friend?

The sooner I get this done the sooner I can stop clenching my asshole

[cursive grove]

i just alt f4 and then recconect

[somber pewter]

havent really been able to test as most randoms i get cant get rhough lvel 4

[wanton seal]

any time I join a match in progress I crash

[tranquil grove]

level 4 would be a lot easier if I was allowed to help my team deal with elites 😔

[somber pewter]

also if level 15s and lower couldnt join

[cursive grove]

havent had that problem much anymore

[tranquil grove]

Barely even see anyone sub 25

[somber pewter]

lucky you guys

[tranquil grove]

Biggest fear is the penances don't change because they are intentionally obtuse to encourage MTX

[cedar mason]

you dont have to hit all the pellets for 100 accuracy?

[tough cove]

What exactly is chained hit?

[blissful flower]

Combo string, ie not the first hit

[ashen rampart]

I found another setting that makes the game run better, I did not think this would work because I do not have an AMD card but there you go

[tough cove]

so just light attack spam and finishing the chain instead of resettign with block?

[blissful flower]

Yes

[limpid vine]

I don't suppose anyone wants to give a Psyker a hand knocking 20 enemies off a bridge?

[ashen rampart]

It is odd because the hardware meets the minimum requirements

[tough cove]

perfect, thank you

[quasi breach]

are games p2p?

[shrewd python]

I have an AMD, share this magical setting, please

[blissful flower]

Dedicated servers, for better and for worse. No more migrating host

[little stream]

probably easier when that comms mission comes back as long as the ogyrn doesn't perma F the bridge

[rigid crown]

Ok who is willing to help me with a penance??

[stoic heath]

so, been playing vet, and I dont get all the hype around the braced autogun, can someone explain to me how any of the autoguns are not shit plz? only one ive gotten any use out of is the vrax pattern, and only at low levels

[fallen rock]

The 10mins challenge is bs lol

[fluid sand]

do duplicate coherency buffs stack for multiples of the same classes/characters in a party?

[turbid dock]

No

[rigid wasp]

did they buff the t3s or did the player base get worse? cant seem to beat them

[rigid crown]

anyone willing to help me do "on overwatch" for the shapshooter?

[slim shale]

How are people playing Dark Tide when it hasn't released yet?

[tepid gust]

Good for horde control especially if it has the suppresion on close kill effect. imo though lazgun is the way to go.

[cedar mason]

pre orders get to play

[blissful flower]

Cus there's a "beta" (pre-release really) for people who pre-ordered

[rigid wasp]

preorder gives you early beta access, the data may or may not be erased

[turbid dock]

Feels like more elites are spawning which is good

[slim shale]

Is preorder 40 bucks or the 60 dollar bundle?

[cedar mason]

40

[blissful flower]

Regular price, so 40 USD

[willow island]

Here's a randomish question for you fine gentlemen.

Do we have any idea how the item level of stuff in the armory shop is determined? It sort of vaguely drifts up over time, but I honestly can't tell whether it's linked to Trust Level or existing item level, or some other variable.

[slim shale]

My lord I would have bought ages ago if I had known

[tepid gust]

i assume it has to do with trust level and rng

[granite nova]

184 lasgun... shop has a blue 193 shotgun for 8k... worth it? More so are the shotguns any good? Running vet.

[rigid wasp]

that I noiced but its not good when I have 3 mutants in a room endlessly stun locking me

[cedar mason]

does anyone know if you have to hit every pellet from shotguns for it to count as 100% accuracy im trying to do that sharpshooter penance

[jaunty wedge]

how do you complete the Do 7 different types of missions penance? ive seen people with the hats and stuff and i wanna know how to get that

[turbid dock]

Hedge said it was a combination of factors which include your current inventory

[blissful flower]

They reserve the right to reset your progress before Nov 30th btw, they want to keep progress but it's not guarnteed if something breaks or it requires a rework

[tepid gust]

as far as i know each pellet counts, so better get a choke point on eneimes that guarntee all of them hit

[cedar mason]

unfortunate, revolver it is then

[limpid vine]

It's a lot easier if you just DC/Reconnect at the end of a mission btw

[tepid gust]

thats how i finished it, took me around 2 days over 40 failed attempts. just got it today

[rigid crown]

how?

[willow island]

@granite nova I personally swear by the combat shotgun. Obviously stat variations can make or break you, but if you get one with decent Damage and Stopping power it gets funny fast when you headshot dudes on the other end of the highway through the vision slit on some of that deployed cover.

[hardy eagle]

once again didnt get the achivenment stay on cohency of everyone cause these guys cantr fix their crashes hahaha love it been here since beta and gonna be here after realese so i cant do any of these quets that require you to do something the entire mission wehat a joke

[cedar mason]

hoping i can get it done quick then i know this ones gonna hurt my soul

[stoic heath]

while im only gonna go after the big penances post launch so I actually keep my progress, the way I would do it is with a revolver and then run the grenade build and just spam nades untill the end

[tepid gust]

the best gun ive encountered is the laz gun with flame stacks on crit. makes bosses and monstrosities trivial

[willow island]

That sounds frankly unholy; Never seen one like that yet, but it sounds pretty awesome.

[cedar mason]

you dont think you'll just keep the cosmetics even if they do reset progress if the players already earned the achievement?

[granite nova]

Cheers, appreciate its a minor rating jump, but figured Id ask if it was trash lol. Its running full bore and looks like it hits like a mule, will give it a go. Only a few missions to earn it back anyway. Only level 10 so its not like im missing out on bolters

[tepid gust]

flame ticks also tick into boss sheilds, so after he gets it back its down again within 10 seconds

[obtuse garnet]

i am having a tough time with the cliff hanger challenge any tips to get it done?

[stoic heath]

I think its a possibluility so im playing it safe, Im also new to the tide games and suck lol

[tepid gust]

pray

[obtuse garnet]

sick

[cedar mason]

half of the penances that i have done i never would've gotten without the little group i play with

[stoic heath]

you are aware of what bug triage is correct?

[granite nova]

'Beta' smh

That was agreeing with your point btw neo

[willow island]

@granite nova It's a fun gun, honest. If you haven't seen one yet, keep your eyes out for an Accatran recon lasgun. It's a lot of fun.

[stoic heath]

tbh this seems like much more of a beta than most I see these days, as fatshark is activly taking feedback and trying to fix shit, this is what a pre-release stress test beta should look like

[granite nova]

Will do, thanks

[tranquil grove]

technical issues are one thing but there's also just a lot of general issues Im worried about.

[winter gust]

any skip launch cutscene commands yet>

[tepid gust]

honestly yeah, glad theres alot of attention to fixing bugs and balancing the game. cant waith for the full release with crafting and what not

[fresh void]

No worries, thanks for the info

[winter gust]

Also how confident are we that there isn't going to be a wipe for beta characters?

[tepid gust]

flip a coin

[tranquil grove]

the closer we get to release the less likely we are to wipe

[granite nova]

Dont jinx it 🤣

[stoic heath]

like what? aside from the armory store being random and the deatils of the mricotransactions I have no issues with the game design wise

[granite nova]

Best reflection of the 40k universe in a game to date tbh

[tepid gust]

most of the base unlocable cosemetics are really nice looking and take an actual good amount of grinding and dedication to get, im fine with microtransactions

[stoic heath]

im always sus of them, but fatshark doesnt seem to have a bad history around it at least, and your right, been too damn long sense ive seen a game where cosmetics actuly mean something other than you have money

[tepid gust]

I love the in game banter between the charters, makes the game feel alive. also small detail i absolutely love is that if your reload a gun and don't complete the animation before switching to something else, when you come back to it, it will finish the reload animation were you left off

[signal cipher]

Eh I'd prefer no Microransactions but VT2 allowed you to earn the PRIM money so I'm not worried, if they do that again I'll be happy

[stoic heath]

I know right thats so awesome, and they even made it so that if your from cadia you can have purple eyes like in the lore

[tranquil grove]

Penances encourage trolling

Armory store being random

Acquisitions resetting everyday but only being able to earn currency once a week

Crafting hasn't been fully shown off yet so that's a void of "hope its okay"

Weapon drops can be extremely rare for some players, if they're even good at all, got only white weapons from emp gifts so far and only like 4 level up rewards

Contract task RNG

Mystery acquisitions are cringe

Faster firing weapons have really shit DPS in comparison to slower firing patterns. I'm talking lasgun with a bigger damage bar doing 4 times less DPS than one with a smaller bar but slower fire rate

RNG missions/modifiers

[signal cipher]

Staged reloads are hard to code, TRUST ME

[tepid gust]

grinding the vet cosmetics are the hardest thing ive done in a game challenge wise with actually good cosmetic pay off. Also didn't know they added that specifically for the arcadia background. I also wonder if they add more factions/worlds in the future. would love to fight orcs or necrons

[stoic heath]

orks could work, but not necrons

[tepid gust]

they by gone done did though. love the fact that every gune ive used so far hold reload progress so you dont have to do a longass reload again. also just visually looks nice

[rigid wasp]

I wanna get the helmet and I have no clue what the 7th mission type is

[leaden fjord]

What's the counterplay for Ragers? They don't seem to have a normal attack state after their Rage state like Berserkers do in Verm2 and will instead just keep attacking until somehow staggered or they die. Need halp

[tepid gust]

or have a fun tau misson were soon as you spawn you get bombared into oblivion

[signal cipher]

Every gun in the game but the quickdraw has staged reloads

[hybrid geyser]

Does anyone know what gunners are affected by Gunner damage resistance? Is it just the Scab Gunner or does it include Scab Shot(gunner) and Reaper?

[sturdy karma]

crap you said gun and not ranged weapon was about to say...staffs

[stoic heath]

the randomness in a lot of cases is needed for replayability, and we are dealing with a lot of bugs right now, but I will concede that weapon stats and rarity need to be MUCH more clearly explained, but when they are it makes total sense

[hybrid geyser]

Or even better, does it include ranged damage resist in general?

[tepid gust]

you have assassiantion, raid, strike , repair, espionage, and investigation and disruption

[rigid wasp]

is disruption even active

[grim relic]

Not yet

[tepid gust]

not as of now. got to wait for it to come back into the loop

[sturdy karma]

and i think the mission is bugged, its got me listed as 7/7 but i dont have it unlocked

[tepid gust]

some people have it bugged. dont know if theres been a fix for it yet

[hybrid geyser]

Agree on Penances encouraging trolling. Had a level 7 insist he was going to do the melee only one in Malice lol. Luckily all of the Preacher ones are completed now. Only ones I couldn't solo in Damnation with bots were a few.

[blissful python]

Does the shop not offer you higher power items post 400? It feels like I'm just stuck lingering around there even though I have a 424 axe and a 410 las. Am I trapped waiting day to day now for the orange shop / emperor's gifts?

[tepid gust]

occasionally but just hope rng is in your favor. shouldnt matter as much when crafting is released

[jaunty wedge]

how do you complete the 7 different types of missions penance i have done all of the ones on the mission terminal and i have seen people who have gotten the hat for there class

[limpid vine]

Don't forget just randomly overnerfing classes into unplayability right at launch of the Pre order beta because they didn't like people Brain Bursting (So they nerf everything about the class) Really makes me worried for their future balances

[blissful python]

I'm just hoping for a bolter that isn't sub 400 or grey

[tepid gust]

[sturdy karma]

yeah the pskyer and his weapons feel good, but many of his feats and brain burst feel...off

[warm raptor]

So what's the play for a zealot to get the heresy mission in ~10 minutes? It feels like the scripted doors/animations would take too long to even do that.

[tepid gust]

fell your pain brother, wasted 4000 contract currency only to end up with a master-crap heat ray gun shit

[jaunty wedge]

i just saw a guy with the cosmetic from doing that penance so alteast it is possible

[blissful python]

I guess it's either that or try for 100% accuracy again

[tepid gust]

i would imagine a 3 ogyrn stack with the movemnt buff trying to rush the end of an espinoage misson or sumthin

[deft salmon]

@hollow flame rending is alike armor ignore

[outer edge]

Do we have access to all 7 mission types now?

[stoic heath]

so should you turn that on or off to make the game run better?

[hollow flame]

That's... actually kind of amazing

[ashen rampart]

With that setting I can play at my native resolution instead of 640x480

[desert radish]

You giga cheese it. Go in solo, hope no one joins, get knocked to 1 HP, run away, wait 6 minutes -> go wipe. "Finishing" a mission is the same as wiping for this one it seems

[blissful python]

No only 6 at the most unless you did a disrupt on day 1

[outer edge]

Thanks

[hollow flame]

Okay, what's impact? Zealot gets... a lot of it

[strong bridge]

bruh i think my pc would melt ice caps with this setting jfc

[ashen rampart]

?

[deft salmon]

Actually thanks

[hybrid geyser]

You don't finish it

[ashen rampart]

It is downscaled and then uses something cheap to scale it back up

[floral birch]

I’m convinced that knocking over a 100 enemies with one Bull Run is impossible and that also goes for the 70 meters in 25 seconds for the Ogryn challenges.

[desert radish]

Easier at level 30 with the feat no?

[floral birch]

It is not

[signal cipher]

Idk, necrons in low numbers could make for a interesting ranged enemy / elite / special
But for story reasons that won't happen orks won't either

But more nurgle demons, guard related stuff, abhumans, mutants, and maybe even the deathguard are likely if they add more enemy types... Hell if you bother to read the lore you'd know the guard where fighting an (currently unnamed) xeno race that was twisted by chaos, so we can add alien demons to the list of "oh god oh fuck oh god"

[floral birch]

I’m level 30 and still can not get a 100 knocks but my highest is 76

[ashen rampart]

I wonder if it is possible to unplug internet or set firewall rule to stop player joining

[fickle wagon]

hi guys im a lvl 29 Orgyn, im not sure why im taking health damage when my toughness is full and no there was no fire damage

[hollow flame]

FSR2.0 is seriously like magic

I get like 50-70fps at 1080p native, and 100-120fps with FSR2.0 on quality

[uncut verge]

Melee hits deal chip damage, scaled based on how much toughness you have, with minimum 10% of the damage goest past toughness to health

Gotta master dodge/block/shove to avoid taking any hits at all

[fickle wagon]

oh dude that's gay af

[rigid wasp]

Any tips for completing the no damage run on veteran?

[uncut verge]

Eh, in VT there was no auto regen toughness. The chip damage is to make you still need to do melee right, but the toughness is so that ranged fire doesn't chip away your health if managed well

[tranquil grove]

Another gameplay problem. Even with toughness ranged fire staggers and tosses you around making it difficult to get to cover despite the tutorial telling you to sprint/slide

[deft salmon]

@dull fjord bolter is for vet and zealot

[stoic heath]

melee damage preices toughness a bit

[uncut verge]

There's a stealth perk that makes you less likely to be targetted.

Keep your head on a swivel and don't let any mobs backstab you since any melee will bleed to health

Also if you can play an easier mission with fewer hordes

[stoic heath]

okay yeah I agree there, range enemies also dont seem to take out thier melee when you charge them when they should or get as supressed as they should, but those arent mechanical porblems they are implementation ones

[dull fjord]

Thanks man
So I should only play those two, after using it with zealot, no other one compares

[deft salmon]

👍

[errant quail]

I have a 3060 and set dlss to quality and just run on medium

[fierce olive]

is counterfire bugged? i literally just don't think i can get the penance for 100% weakspot hits during one volley

and don't even get me started on the fucking 100% accuracy bullshit

[turbid dock]

They actually fixed this in 1.07, but the issue is they will only pull their melee if you pull your melee. So trying to gun them down with an autopistol or flamer gets you shot more than you just pulling out your melee and engaging

This makes flamers really weak for flanking riflemen in this iteration

[tranquil grove]

Implementation is part of gameplay. If you don't implement a mechanic well then it leads to bad gameplay.

[fierce olive]

these last 2 vet penances are brutal

[tardy jungle]

Been seeing people with helmets after recent patch and I have done the Repair mission but I am still missing 1 type of mission that I have not done yet. Ami I missing something or just getting chucked with the mission rotation?

[fierce olive]

yeah same shit for me, 6/7 even with repair done

[tardy jungle]

Been trying to ask people in game but none wants to respond

[little stream]

because disruption was only out on day 1. you haven't done all 7

[spare tangle]

I cant seem to get the On Overwatch penance done.

[tardy jungle]

thanks a ton!

[fierce olive]

the game was great for me up until level 30 and then everything started breaking

devs are actively sabotaging me

[rigid wasp]

Game was going good

until every qp match I get into keeps turning into Endless Horde like bruh can I get ANY OTHER MODIFIER FOR ONCE?

[naive marsh]

anyone know if this would be any good? never tried ranged weapon cleave or suppression bonuses - unarmoured damage bonus also seems redundant on shotty

[primal falcon]

Anyone know if these contracts can be done with a force staff? Surely they would right?

[rigid wasp]

Any tips for doing the no damage vet run? Besides the pick that one talent that makes you slightly less targeted

[quaint gyro]

Hide behind the ogryns with shields

[unreal oxide]

Is there any indication of when the 7th mission type is out? Hate being stuck on 6/7 for the helmet

[bronze goblet]

It was in the mission pool for the first day but removed for some reason.

[inland imp]

Anyone know why this number hasnt gone up in a while?

Does this mean each type of mission such as Raid, Assasination, Strike, Repair? Or does it mean each map? Because I was at 5/7 before the patch that gave us access to repair missions. And after playing the new maps and missions its not going up.

[fierce olive]

alt f4 and rejoin just before extract

[sudden axle]

do any of the difficulties have friendly fire

[fierce olive]

stats completely reset when you rejoin a game

[rigid wasp]

Might try it, I'm gonna go as far as I can legit--I was getting super far legit with no damage but every mission I kept getting was FUCKING ENDLESS HORDE

[normal tendon]

Mission type, you’re probably missing disruption and the one research one or something assuming you have done repair

[rigid wasp]

so like do I just spam alt f4 and reopen the game and it'll let me rejoin?

[stray arrow]

can anyone tell me how to get that mask for psyker?

[fierce olive]

no just play as normal and then alt f4 to reset everything before the team extracts

[rigid wasp]

I'm confused? Alt f4 just resets everything?

[zenith hill]

i got it on my ogryn, dont know why it unlocked that way

[fierce olive]

yes, all of your stats get reset when you rejoin

[rigid wasp]

so basically what I just said? Spam alt f4 to force the game closed and then when I reopen it it'll let me rejoin the current match?

[fierce olive]

yes but wait until the end to alt f4

[turbid dock]

they tend to choose the ones with modifiers first

[fierce olive]

if u alt f4 at the beginning ur just gonna get hit again. wait until the very end to minimize the chance of being hit

[deft salmon]

An actual top flex challenge and drip, almost never completed honestly...

[mild summit]

There's one feat that decreases attention on you when you stand still. Unsure how well that works

[stray arrow]

can anyone tell me how to get this helmet for psyker

[deft salmon]

I would say try your best to react fast to straddlers on you with melee block pushing

[fierce olive]

just cheat

[deep sapphire]

You need to finish every type of mission on some difficulty. If you missed day one when we had the Dust mission you just have to wait now.

[stray arrow]

oh awsome

[deft salmon]

Blocking and pushing is first best option to handle a horde and not be hit before having to dodge. Although you have to dodge every single special and gunner

[turbid dock]

check your penances in the menu

[deft salmon]

Do 3rd tier of hood penance for psyker which by now means most of his other penances and completed every mission on heresy

[sturdy cliff]

thunder hammer horde clearing....well does it necessary to clear the packed mobs?

[stray arrow]

any plans for more staffs or force weapons?

[fierce olive]

the game is so chock full of retarded bugs that it's literally just better to cheat for the cosmetics atm

[deft salmon]

Not all weapons are available rn, who knows

[spare tangle]

I wonder if i can sit at the spawn and just suicide right before the extract and then let my team just finish the mission to get the On Overwatch penance because i have been trying for hours and cant get it done with randoms

[stray arrow]

how i do dat and is it bannable?

[fierce olive]

no it's not bannable it's just cheesing the system

[deft salmon]

You do you, i wouldn't recommend others to

[stray arrow]

how doe

[fierce olive]

ok so here's a good example of how fucked the game is right now

as a veteran, the top tier pants cosmetic is unlocked by killing 5 marked enemies with headshots in a single round of volley fire

at heresy or above btw. now that doesn't sound too bad, barring the fact that volley fire lasts like 6-7 seconds and you are hard-pressed to find 4 elites near each other.

[stray arrow]

ah gotcha

[fierce olive]

now there is a perk at level 30 that designates ranged shooter enemies as marked targets, and killing one resets your volley duration. but guess what doesn't fucking work right now? that perk

[normal tendon]

Endless horde Heresy or Damnation with a Bolter or plasma gun

[stray arrow]

here is one i got kill 20 enemies within 2 seconds of knocking then off a ledge@fierce olive

[cursive torrent]

does peddler specifically try to sell you things you dont have?
all he tries to give me are autoguns, catachan swords, and tactical axes for the last 4 hours. i dont have any of those, becasue i dont like them. ive seen 1 las weapon.

[normal tendon]

But tbh I suspect some penances are gonna be adjusted. The final pants for the Ogryn requires a lot of fucky stuff to work currently, not sure if you can even get it.

[hollow flame]

Okay, what's everyone's favorite L10 zealot feat

[fierce olive]

yeah the counterfire perk literally just does not work right now

[rigid zealot]

Is the shop like gear score locked? Consistently getting stuff like 40 gear score lower and nothing over the 400 my weapons are or just annoying unlucky checked like 6-7 shop resets.

[fierce olive]

yes it is

[spare tangle]

So how are you cheesing the penances @fierce olive ?

[ocean osprey]

It sometimes work. I did that penance with the accatran

[primal falcon]

Some of them can be done by disconnecting/reconnecting at the end of missions I've heard, stuff like the "fire every bullet and miss none" that I think the vet has to do

[fierce olive]

the biggest one is the zero damage one where you just leave the game and rejoin right before the end of the game

you can leave the game for the 100% accuracy one but you still have to fire all of your ammo at the very end, like dump it into hordes

[ocean osprey]

For the Zealot, are we sure it's on Malice that we need to do the melee only one? I've done it multiple times but never got it

[primal falcon]

It should state in the actual penance shouldn't it?

[junior portal]

Malice+.

[terse pond]

how do you guys use the void strike staff? is it mostly just a horde weapon? should you try and make it hit the ground around where you want to kill stuff or should I just use it like a rail gun to kill enemies in a line? Also, when should you use charged vs uncharged shots? i can’t really one tap horde enemies if I don’t charge, but they still come out pretty fast

[ocean osprey]

It is stated on Malice+ but i'm sure i've done it but I never actually got it at the end

[fierce totem]

It does, but many of the tooltips aren't up to date (and Fatshark are aware of this).

[fierce olive]

there's lots to do in the next 6 days we'll say that much

[north wolf]

What do stances do?

[chrome scroll]

They're just post game poses

[north wolf]

Ah, the stats screen? Got it. I unlocked one somewhere.

[hallow cave]

Anyone have any tips for the heavyweight champion penance? Is there any particular mission on heresy to do it for

[zenith hill]

i got it on the mission with the tanks overlooking the bridge, i forget what its called though

[slim junco]

Why am I only seeing 2 weapons at the shop?

[minor flower]

Why is endless horde happening on missions that don’t have it in the selection?

[unreal oxide]

Ah that’s annoying. Didn’t see anything about one being removed after a day. No mention on its return I assume?

[rigid wasp]

How do you do this alt f4 thing you speak of

I just tried it and didn't have any success

[north wolf]

Does the yellow shield on a boss have any special resistances? Should I shoot it? Should I headpop it? Should I melee it?

[viral sail]

voidstrike is essentially sienna's fireball staff from vt2 so you should rarely ever use uncharged shot and use it like a railgun. It's also better to just tap m2 instead of holding it till its fully charged

[fierce olive]

alt f4 resets your stats in a match. if you alt f4 and rejoin the game you just left everything gets reset. so if you rejoin just before the end of the game you avoid the melee damage and get out

[viral sail]

from experience, ranged and headpops barely do any damage compared to melee

[terse pond]

good to know.

[rigid wasp]

I understand what you're saying but it's not very clear I just did Alt f4 at the end of the mission before it ended and nothing happened my game froze and I had to manually task manager close it

[fierce olive]

yeah you have to rejoin the mission. right now, it might actually just not let you rejoin missions unless you have a friend in the lobby. so a friend might be necessary for the cheese now

[rigid wasp]

I have 0 friends with the game so unless anyone here wants to offer their services

[kind spindle]

it works i just cheesed the chest piece for vet

[rigid wasp]

solo?

[fierce olive]

kickass

[kind spindle]

randos.

@fierce olive all u need to do for the chest piece is to leave one bullet in the clip then force shut the game. Rejoin at the end of the mission before aboarding the plane. Shoot your last bullet. GG

[fierce olive]

no shot

[rigid wasp]

Ok but like my question is how do you force shut the game?

[kind spindle]

Ive been playing with geforce now so it was a bit tricky but basically what i was doing is force shutdown trough the steam overlay

[rigid wasp]

force quit in steam overlay?

[grim relic]

Force quit from Task Manager

[kind spindle]

yes

[rigid wasp]

Let me try it right now

[desert radish]

alt+f4 doesn't work?

[rigid wasp]

I just force quit in a match lemme see if I can even rejoin the match I was in

[grim relic]

What’s that one mission I can do Cliffhanger penance easy? The one with the 1 out of 3 bridges not broken to extraction

[kind spindle]

with my method u can also use any gun as long as u dont miss with the last shoot. Just really all u need to do is leave 1 bullet left before the mission ends and rejoin. Once youre back in u just shoot that last bullet into "hopefully not an elite" then aboard the plane

[tranquil grove]

Now the only issue is getting a team to extraction

[fierce olive]

yeah level 4 is bugged right now

[tranquil grove]

Endless Horde and people being turds is not a great combination.

[kind spindle]

i personally didnt asked just timed it right but u can always try to ask ppl to wait

[rigid wasp]

I force quit with steam overlay then reopened the game and it did NOT put me back in my match but instead back on the ship...

[kind spindle]

as i said i was using geforce now so things are a bit more tricky on my end

[tranquil grove]

I've tried asking I just haven't been able to carry hard enough yet and for some reason people love walking into the light shows.

[kind spindle]

if u can get ppl to wait for u in front of the ship then the best part is that u dont have to grief with running revolver ect. Just use whatever helps u get trough the mission and leave one last shot before u force quit

[tranquil grove]

Yeah been trying just gotta get people there ya know

[kind spindle]

I personally rather have Veterans asking me to do this then push them to run the entire mission completely gimped cuz the penance is fucking stupid.

[fierce olive]

just wait for level 4 to be fixed again because it's literally bugged right now because the devs take 1 step forward and 4 steps back every update

[tranquil grove]

it is a very stupid penance. I don't think fatshark actually play tested them they just threw what sounded cool

[tepid skiff]

how do you force quit so that you can reconnect then?

[tranquil grove]

Try ending with task manager or alt+f4

As long as the game doesn't register you manually quitting then you should have the option

[rigid wasp]

I tried force quit in the steam overlay first time no rejoin success.

I'm going to try with Alt F4 next then Task manager I will post the results.

[kind spindle]

Honestly the only thing i can say is try every possible method that instantly shut down your game. U can also try ripcord too. (unplug the internet until u disconnect)

One of the method should work cuz as far as ive seen the game holds your spot for a little to give u a grace period

[tranquil grove]

Its funny that the the 1.07 update literally fixed one crash and added 2 new ones for me.

[safe folio]

Is Melk the only way to get good stuff

[lilac talon]

Pray for Emperors Gifts.

[untold phoenix]

Not a joke, get good and your loot will most likely be better

Worked for me at least

[untold sparrow]

Question this one is there a way to even complete it?

[stone wing]

getting good?
in this community?

[normal tendon]

Yes but it requires a lot of setup and its probably still hard as hell, you need curios with cooldown recharge increase for one, and to be level 30.

I personally haven't managed yet.

[lilac talon]

I don't even get what affects your chances in getting an Emperors Gift.

[untold sparrow]

"Thanking you"

[wanton seal]

Bruh i saw the exact same looking ogryn earlier

[normal tendon]

Hmmmmm

[untold sparrow]

Now were talking

[wanton seal]

i saw that like all charcter look super different but still

[north wolf]

Where on the body do the Insignia show up? I can't see mine.

[vast bear]

are you supposed to be getting anything extra from heresy and damnation?

[kind spindle]

money and xp

[desert radish]

fun

[vast bear]

well ye it's kinda fun and challenging, although I was expecting some chance for curio and a weapon at least

[coral bronze]

my shop only has two items in it; i waited an hour and it rerolled new items, but it was still only two

[stable thistle]

is there a way to check what contract you have active?

[normal tendon]

Its next to your name in the loading screens/lobbies

[north wolf]

Oh, that's kinda.. meh. Oh well.

[twin swallow]

How do people rapid fire a Boltgun? I see videos of people doing like 6~7 shots every second but no matter how fast I click there seems to be an animation lock?

[spiral basalt]

anyone have any idea why an evisorator at 315 with a low damage stat is doing more damage than one at 365 with a higher damage stat?

[stable thistle]

i had one selected already but it doesnt say where it is anywhere. The one i picked was related to killing monstrosities but i cant see it anywhere

[kind spindle]

Hold left click. Regular left click supposed to be a double shot burst but for some reason if u just hold it goes full auto turning your character into a slushy.

[stable thistle]

the one that shows up on the right is whatever one i have selected

[turbid dock]

Do eviscerators have a "first target" stat?

Also changing weapons in a meat grinder screws up the numbers (apparently). So you got to compare by entering the meat grinder each time with the loadout you want to test

[twin swallow]

Ohh I see, thanks!

[stable thistle]

oh nevermind, i see how it works the list on the left are all my current contracts, forget i asked anything

[spiral basalt]

@turbid dock

[turbid dock]

You can't change weapons in the meat grinder without screwing up the numbers (according to other members of the discord)

[rigid wasp]

Can I get someone to help me out with this cheese for the veteran penance

[sick falcon]

Someone know when the mech boy will be Active?

[stable thistle]

is there anyway to see what background you picked for your character?

[deft salmon]

@minor tendon they do

[kind spindle]

I think thats just immersion fluff

[stable thistle]

aye i know, i just wanted to see what i picked

[deft salmon]

No, their voicelines will be however thematically more relavant to you choices

[stable thistle]

that way i dont repick it as well for different characters

[minor tendon]

Is it an overtime thing or just immediately on a hit? I appreciate the response.

[deft salmon]

Poxwalkers(vaguely all zombies) don't but specifically terrors (fully changed citizens) do on hit instant tiny bit of corruption of around 2-3 per hit. Poxbusters also apply corruption on explosion alongside damage and so do pox hounds

[minor tendon]

That sounds incredibly hard to tell the difference between the two of them on the fly but know I know haha, thank you

[final willow]

heyo does a shotgun work with the sharpshooter penance "make every shot count"?

[deft salmon]

In meat grinder terrors stand on left side, groaners on the right side

[kind spindle]

I think someone said each pellet counts somewhere but tbh no accurate way to say since no accuracy stat at the end of the mission. Best to chees that stupid penance

[minor tendon]

Got it, thanks!

[tranquil grove]

I got to the end of a tier 4, did the disconnect reconnect, and then somehow my fucking final shot threaded the needle through an entire poxwalker horde and hit nothing

[kind spindle]

Oof brother

[tranquil grove]

this challenge is totally possible normally though. Just hope the hitreg doesn't bug out for 500+ shots

[kind spindle]

All the challenges are doable in theory yes. Its just not fun to be nerfed or stressed out for an entire run on high difficulty.

[tranquil grove]

trying to do it normally with a revolver was just straight up trolling

[tacit fern]

Are weapons class-specific?

I thought they were as I've only been running a vet.

[burnt pendant]

Some are. F.Ex. Force weapons on Psykers, or Ogryn ranged options. Every class should have 1 or 2 weapons or weapon classes to themselves.
In your case, Vet has the Plasma Gun as a high level option.

[tacit fern]

Aha! Thanks 🙂

[tranquil grove]

I think Power Sword is vet exclusive too since I haven't seen any for Zealot

[strong bridge]

what cheese?

[hollow slate]

Love to pick this up but i've finished my weekly goals and im 30 spacebucks short

[tranquil grove]

Anyone else feel like an ogryn is necessary in higher difs just cause of the CC?

[neat dock]

is the warp battery quest for psyker glitched?

[hollow falcon]

need to do it on heresy not malice

[shrewd python]

Ay o/
Can somebody link me to a perk guide, like for example what does Rending or Impact really do to enemies, please?

Ty in advance

[rigid wasp]

The cheese for the veteran quest where you alt f4 and rejoin at the end ot get the no melee damage penance

[tranquil grove]

Who wants to place bets on if the endless horde bug will be addressed before the 27th?

[spark elk]

is it bugged?

[wanton seal]

i feel so much safer when there is a ogryn on the team

[tranquil grove]

Currently every heresy mission even if not marked has Endless Horde modifier

[rigid robin]

Testing Psykinetic's Wrath trait, it seems like it doesn't work with your force swords normal attacks, is it only with the charged up attack that the damage gets buffed? If that's the case it seems a bit naff, and also the soul blaze trait at lvl 10 doesn't seem to do much either, 7 damage per second ticks seems very low..

[neat dock]

thx g

[lilac talon]

Psykinetics Wrath works on Force Sword basic attacks. I'm hitting an enemy right now, testing it.

[rigid robin]

Not from what I just tested in the Psykinarium thingy it doesn't? Loading back in now to try again

[lilac talon]

151, non-charged
165, 95%

[rigid robin]

that's 14 more damage, not even 10% (although when I just tried it I was getting no change so one second)

[lilac talon]

I don't know why that is, but that's how it is.

[rigid robin]

It's not changing my damage numbers at all

[lilac talon]

You sure you're charging your peril? lol

[rigid robin]

Yeah, I charged to 98%

[lilac talon]

That's 100% and 0%

[rigid robin]

That's.. odd.. my sword is lower level so I'd expect less of a change but it's going between 50-53 when 0% to 99% peril

[formal ocean]

25 on Ogryn right now, I’m liking the Stuber and the single shot ‘nade launcher, but I was wondering which is better in the higher difficulties?

[thin nebula]

what is "Wounds" on gear?

[craggy solar]

how often you can get downed before dying

[turbid dock]

Grenade gauntlet for the stagger

[kind spindle]

Amount of times u can be downed i believe

[thin nebula]

ah, wow. never would have guessed that. thanks lads

[echo root]

I like grenade gauntlet because it covers our weaknesses quite well and for close range you can just melee anyway

[manic belfry]

what does the red cracked skull debuff icon man?

[echo root]

You see your hp split in bars. Each bar is a wound. +wounds splits your hp into more bars. When you get picked up after you go down you lose 1 bar

+wounds means you can go down more often and lose less hp each time you get picked up

[thin nebula]

awesome, great explanation, thanks!

[echo root]

Also on heresy you have less wounds than on malice so there is that too

[echo root]

I think it means you are slowed or suppressed

[thin nebula]

I'm assuming the amount you get from gear stays the same regardless of difficulty though, yeah?

[echo root]

Yes. I think heresy just gives -1 wound modifier

[strong bridge]

does anyone want a spare

[craggy solar]

i would at most go with 1 +1 wound item tbh going all 3 seems a bit of a noob trap

[formal ocean]

I mean every ogryn ranged weapon has a melee attack. But I like those two because of range/damage they provide. Is the stun really worth it?

[burnt pendant]

Will soulblaze from multiple psykers stack?
And who would get the kill?
Also, question from yesterday: What is the level requirement for flamethrower staves?

[thin nebula]

I honestly thought it had something to do with wounds you apply to enemies. Knowing what it is now I don't know if it's a perk I would keep on gear intentionally.

[echo root]

Stun can be worth if you can't get to a reaper pinning you down or if you wanna stin one to let your.psyker easily headpop. However I think the more important role of the gauntlet is that you can deal with snipers and other specials from range. Your main ranged weapon does not need to be good vs hordes though the gauntlet can do it in a pinch

[random belfry]

Anybody knows which Mission has the most Dreks? Need to kill 750 with melee...

[craggy solar]

yeah i dont use any +1 wounds gear atm I prefer other stuff

[kind spindle]

i just take more hp instead

[echo root]

I think on Ogryn I would not run +wounds cus we have an extra anyway and I like to stack +hp since it is big for us

[kind spindle]

+hp and corruption resistance perhaps is good all around imo

[echo root]

Big hp pool + reduced dmg taken so effective hp gets high if you max it out

Stamina regen good too. Don't sleep on stamina boosts

[kind spindle]

yeah i think u probably want a blend of the two

[burnt pendant]

I think having a +1 wound is a pretty good fallback. More than that, probably not.
Stamina allows longer sprints, that can be useful in a lot of situations.

[echo root]

Yeah, was like that in VT2 as well but maybe stamina is slightly less important here but still very good for melee focus

[craggy solar]

seen some +3 wound randoms that made good use of those

[kind spindle]

i have a feeling a lot of ppl think more wounds = more hp cuz u have more bars

[craggy solar]

[dense moat]

I started to see the flamethrower staff after lvl20 but not sure of the exact level

[random belfry]

Just found a Curio with +6% Ordo Dockets and +14% MAx health. This seems fairly good but are there any max roll numbers known?

[wet thicket]

yea me thx

[ebon belfry]

What is considered to be a fully charged melee attack? Hold down the attack button until the attack animation resolves automatically, without you releasing the attack button?

[spiral grail]

I have been keeping my warp charges at maximum for entire matches at a time it simply does not register? How can I get the warp battery achievement the game is taunting me

it's definitely glitched in some way

[lament ruin]

Maybe it's exactly 300s not more

[upper crow]

from what I tested it seems to be exactly that

[ebon belfry]

damn, that means the ogryn 'knife through butter' talent is not as useful as I thought - takes so long to charge up

[upper crow]

yeah I switched to the others for that reason... maybe on a specific weapon, but it does help when there's a horde mixed with a shield ogryn

[spiral grail]

that's an interesting thought

Wouldn’t make much sense at all tho

[quick remnant]

You can release Heavy attack early, you just need to have the windback and then release

[sour forge]

how do yall deal with muties I keep having 2 muties spawn + trapper and dogs with endless horde and as a zealot its a nightmare to deal with

[spiral grail]

Psyker

[ebon belfry]

But is releasing a heavy attack earlier considered a fully charged attack?

[twin oasis]

Why is there a damage difference here?

is it the %6 ranged crit damage? is green better although lower gear level?

[ebon belfry]

What trait do you prefer then? The stacking damage one?

[shrewd python]

The green one is gonna do more dmg coz it rolled with bigger dmg stat.
U can imagine Weapon gear score as how much maximum points weapons stat bars can have

[twin oasis]

aa alright thank you!

[shrewd python]

Also dont sell higher gear scores, i think they can affect ur drops and shop rolls

[quick remnant]

Would have to try in the Psykarium and test

[rigid wasp]

I'm abouta lose my fking mind 4 hours straight of trying to get this penance and no luck.

[upper crow]

It's unclear how they work, stacking damage didn't seem to work for me in the meat grinder so I opted for the 20% to the last enemy that hit you because it seems more generally useful and reliable (although also couldn't test it so not sure how it really works either)

[twilit socket]

Is the item level like Vermintide 2 where you buy one and it upgrades the max level forever, or is it like older vermintide where you need to keep a high level item in your inventory

[eternal obsidian]

Can you refund/discard limited time acquisitions and get tokens back?

[harsh sun]

So how did they change dodging?

[wanton haven]

Tooltip states Malice wrong, Heresy it is. Dont know if it should work on Malice and working on Heresy is the bug, or if the tooltip is bugged and it should be Heresy stuff. Anyway, you can do it on Heresy.

[eternal obsidian]

Dodging is from a 0.85 delay changed to 1.0s delay, something like that.

[harsh sun]

I'm guessing the knife has the longest dodge and shortest delay. Didn't it used to take stamina?

[thick kernel]

Discovered something with the Psyker which is SUPER cool. After casting over 100% peril and starting the overload animation if you use your F ability it knocks you out of the animation. Any idea if this is a bug or intended

[wanton haven]

Normal. V2 Unchained Sienna works the same way. Safety release before you go boom.

[thick kernel]

Good to know

[north ocean]

I'm a huge fan of flamers, should i consider this?

[devout steeple]

any tips on how to complete under 10 mins heresy run for the zealot penance?

[weary pasture]

It will be reseted soon and will always take 1 week and a half to get one cuz every week we get only 2k points

[spiral grail]

oh christ this would have been useful to know ahahha tysm man

[raven nest]

Hey there, I only get two weapons in the rotation at the merchant since today, is that normal now?

[rustic wigeon]

Thats a Bug that seems to Hit Players occassionally

[raven nest]

Dang, do we know about a fix for that?

[north ocean]

Does benediction affect the zealot?

[rigid wasp]

I'm convinced I am being pranked, I've had 2 people say you can cheese this Veteran penance

Chungus want hat. When espionage?

[kind spindle]

thats literally how ive been getting my hard penances mate

[tepid minnow]

what lvl 5 feat is reccomended for psyker?
got no staff yet

[thick kernel]

2nd one is nice

[jolly quarry]

voidstrike staff - to charge or not to charge

[tepid minnow]

thanks, I'll give it a try
they all look pretty useful, tbh

[thick kernel]

The warp charge one isn’t great at higher difficulties you want instant toughness regen not 30% over 50 seconds. Considering staffs are meta to and they count as warp attacks you can regain a lot of toughness

[bleak maple]

after playing vet lvl 30 , i feel so boring to level up other 3 classes , leveling up looks lame and slow , any way to get level up boost packs?

[quick veldt]

No.

[bleak maple]

meh

[median moon]

Ive started crashing a lot in the last 24 hours for some reason

[inland imp]

Bro wtf is wrong with this game, The past 5 emperors gifts ive gotten have been grey tier garbage.

[echo root]

Kinda wish you would get a boost for each max lvl class you got or something or at least coukd share xp curios

[spiral grail]

how do I know which type I haven't done yet?

[inland imp]

Probably the desert outside one. The one that was in rotation on day one. I missed it too.

[spiral grail]

played that one

[echo root]

Repair probably?

[spiral grail]

just not on malice actually what type of mission is the desert one?

[proud sorrel]

I gave you a tip in DMs

[inland imp]

I can has just the tip too?

[median moon]

Yeah Purgatus flame staff instantly crashes my game when I try to use it....

[rigid wasp]

I have tried so many times to do the trick you are speaking of.

I just did a malic assassinate mission and Alt F4ed my game out before we even triggered the boss so I KNOW for a fact they didn't kill that boss in like a minute and it wouldn't let me rejoin.

I have been trying for 5 hours straight to do the trick you are talking about Crow and I've had 0 success getting this penance done.

[kind spindle]

they could have wiped too

[spiral grail]

anyone know when disruption will show up again?

[rigid wasp]

There is no way they wiped they weren't even in the boss room yet I did the Alt f4 crash to try and rejoin before the boss was even there.

It was the Ministorum boss and I Alt F4ed before the elevator you take to get into his boss room.

[kind spindle]

heresy+ there is endless horde they could easily be overrun in seconds if they arent carefull

[proud sorrel]

Idk, I've done it on the 2nd difficulty at the first hour of beta and now I can't get my lvl 2 psyker hood cause I need that 3rd dif mission to be completed

[rigid wasp]

It's not heresy+ it's just malice, there are no enemies spawning in the area right before the boss either and there are no modifiers on.

It was a plain fucking Malice mission on the Ministorum assassinate mission and I alt f4 crashed in the safest area possible.

The little preparing area before you get in the elevator to go into the boss room.

[plain nimbus]

what penance are we talking about?

[spiral grail]

exact same

[rigid wasp]

No melee damage veteran

[kind spindle]

i cant help much bud u just gotta keep trying til it works

[plain nimbus]

just play the strike mission. those are bit easier with 3 players

[rigid wasp]

Pretty sure the strike mission has endless horde which is a fucking nut busting modifier.

[kind spindle]

that and u have to board a ship on those so the mission dosent just randomly end

[plain nimbus]

yeah that's why just quit and let the people signal you when you're ready to go back in

[rigid wasp]

I know the mission didn't end tho there is no way these dudes rode the elevator up triggered the boss and then killed him in a minute to a minute and a half.

[plain nimbus]

uh... yes you can. if they just go full melee the boss died about 40s

[rigid wasp]

I have nobody to help literally only person I know who owns this game is me

[kind spindle]

i can single handedly burst down a boss giga fast

[rigid wasp]

Also I'm sure a coordinated team could do it in that time frame yes, but these were 3 randoms just running around shooting their rifles.

[opaque dawn]

vet last feat that prioritized scab shooters did not proc on mission but procs on psykanium when killing scab/dreg shooters, anyone noticed?

[glad spindle]

I'm getting a lot of annoying double-shot stutter on my lasgun firing, almost as if the server sometimes rubberbands when I shoot a lastgun. Is this a server thing?

[plain nimbus]

my brother in emperor, you ARE in the darktide community

[kind spindle]

3 randoms can easily do it too if they know their class. Again thats not a hard feat to do

[rigid wasp]

One dude is running around with a force staff the other has a stock lasgun.

[plain nimbus]

fun fact 3 grenade box from ogryn is enough to kill the boss

[rigid wasp]

the third has a bolter so unless bolter boy is god, no ogryn just psyker and 3 vets

[ashen rampart]

Still haven't beaten an uprising mission yet

[kind spindle]

well bolter IS in fact a god weapon

[plain nimbus]

that's can be done. headshot with volley up can take chunks out of the boss. the rest is just know when to go into melee and when to shoot

[glad spindle]

anyone experiencing this? any fixes?

[jolly quarry]

depends on the role, the only thing its pretty bad at is quickly deleting spread out ranged units which is what ends misions just as often as being swarmed by ogryns

[rigid wasp]

You mean sometimes it fires a second round? I think that happened a lot on my overcharge lasgun

[kind spindle]

vet with instant reload can release 2-3 salvo full auto if u glitch it properly which is absolutely busted

[glad spindle]

I can't tell if it actually fires a 2nd round or not, but I'm guessing not because it fires too fast and too abruptly as if the server was rubberbanding. Way past the firerate of the gun. Also this is on the basic mk1a lasgun, Mk12, and I think mk7. This never happened before this week's patch

[desert urchin]

for certain classes it is, i would assume it to be meh on vet as it has low ammo. i use it on zealot like crazy as an elite killer, one mag can kill anything that isnt a boss

[jolly quarry]

yes but you wont hit stuff at long range with that, i love the bolter but if you dont have someone with a las in your team youll have a bad time in big open rooms with like 40 dudes shooting at you

[plain nimbus]

it's server thing. you gotta RNG your way into a good lobby. i sometimes got masssive rubberband that i can't even swap weapons. around a minute or so it will just kick me out. what you're experiencing is a lighter version of that, which i get couple of times.

[glad spindle]

damn, I figured. Keep getting chucked into chinese lobbies.

[feral stump]

Question for sharpshooters do u use extra health or toughness? Or something else on your trinkets.

[kind spindle]

thats more of a skill issue. It can pick off targets in the distance still easily. Do u have to fire slower to not get cocked by the recoil? Sure but its still doable.

[jolly quarry]

exactly, its doable but a las will pick them off twice as fast and if you take too long on higher difficulties you get shot to pieces or swarmed by melees at the same time.
lol dont call it a skill issue, the recoil reduces your accurate fire rate, that has nothing to do with skill my dude

[wet bloom]

Toughness if I have to since I plan on getting the ranged toughness damage reduction so I can clear all ranged enemy after the lvl 30 perk for my team

though personally I like stamina for for zoom

[kind spindle]

Practice my friend. Im not saying im godlike but its absolutely doable and works just fine for me personally on all distances.

[jolly quarry]

i main the bolter, it still falls waaaay short to a las in the scenario i mentioned

[glad spindle]

also any word on if the suppression mechanic is working as intended? Enemies are always just shooting back even when I shoot at them.

[lilac talon]

Works better with high rate of fire weapons. Still janky though.

[plain nimbus]

shoot at them alot + kill one or two guys next to them.

[kind spindle]

there are always weapons that out perform others in certain scenarios. I prefer more versitile tools though. Thats why i use bolter.

[jolly quarry]

yes, bolter has crazy dps and is satisfying af, im just saying its not a "god weapon" and definitely has its weaknesses, the recoil and low ammo being the main ones

[plain nimbus]

tbf the fact that it can pretty much do anything way better and just slightly worse in one thing compare to all other weapons is safe to say that it's kind of a "god weapon"