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[slow fog]

Psyker rules my dude. You maybe haven't hit your stride yet, it does get noticeably more powerful once you get a good staff (voidstrike or lightning) and some talents

[jolly quarry]

yes psyker seems to be a bit of a late bloomer but then every class is to a degree

[slow fog]

Except Ogryn - Ogryn is strong out the gate haha

[topaz citrus]

lategame i definitely think vet and psyker are way stronger than ogryn / zealot

[normal tendon]

Ogryn tbh only becomes good later on too, it’s just early difficulty is easy as hell

[jolly quarry]

fair, zealots only real strenght seems to be the oneshot potential with the active but youre very squishy for a "dedicated melee"

[north wolf]

Sadly I can confirm that early on, psyker just feels bad to play.

[burnt pendant]

Well, it has a poorly thought out, boring "grenade", and an underwhelming active, + a bunch of talents that somehow make me feel like I'd miss out on something despite not really caring for any of them.
Balance-wise, it might be ok, but design-wise...
I really only wanted a force sword. 😅
Maybe soulblaze ends up being ok with enough stacks.

[grave radish]

Is the wording correct on Veteran's lvl 15 feat Demolition Team? 8% grenade on enemy kill? any enemy?

[normal tendon]

They all have a place tbh, Ogryns are really great for dealing with elites and hordes late game, endless Damnation they’re a massive assist.

[mighty gazelle]

Psyker with lightning staff can basically carry a game

[silent beacon]

I hate bing a psyker and none of the party looks out for the wizard. sure I can lock the pack of 4 ragers down but if I try to switch to damage they just merc me

[topaz citrus]

zealot's only real strength is something vet can do from far away with minimal risk

[slow fog]

Yeah probably a bit of this. Ogryn's role is easier to fill in early on is all I mean, he comes with all the tools he needs. Lots of health, a charge for getting behind the lines and a bunch of stagger weapons for disrupting formations

[north wolf]

Do you guys pick missions? I just hit quickplay.

[jolly quarry]

ogryns are crazy good allround for support and crowd control

[silent beacon]

otherwise pysker is fun

[slow fog]

As someone who doesn't have any friends who play DT. QP all day

[wheat sable]

anyone got tips for long bomb penance

[normal tendon]

Yeah I feel like people who think Ogryns aren’t good haven’t played with a good team on Heresy or Damnation or don’t realize what their role is.

[burnt pendant]

Really, I just want Unchained again. 😈 Though I'll gladly take more risk/reward, like in release VT2.

[jolly quarry]

zealot seems to be anti elite and bolstering your team during hordes but not to the same degree as a vet with a bolter/plasma or an ogryn with shield

[topaz citrus]

havent played damnation but my group runs endless heresy no issue without an ogryn or zealot, just two psyk two vet

[normal tendon]

Ogryn is for staggering and controlling and creating space, zealots are more just for killing up close. Ogryns set up the other three classes for easy kills.

[jolly quarry]

heresy is a bad benchmark, i really enjoy my zealot and im mowing through hordes and elites but at damnation i get overwhelmed super quick by massed ranged enemies

[normal tendon]

You can play without them sure but you can also play without a Psyker or without a vet or zealot and sub in other classes. The point is they’re still super useful.

And also Damnation ups the ante a bunch. Especially endless.

[heavy shuttle]

Best sniper weapon for vet sharpshooter?

[topaz citrus]

we would be running damnation but our ogryn player swapped off at lvl25 to roll his vet

so we gotta lvl him up

[jolly quarry]

any single shot las, prolly the one that says "high damage", forgot the designation

[limpid walrus]

Oh yeah, Chasm Logistratum

[topaz citrus]

thx:D

[hollow basalt]

100% accuracy is making me claw my eyes out :(

[normal tendon]

Yeah it’s not unlike the jump from Legend to Cata in Vermintide, it’s similar but it’s just a bit more. So many elites.

[jolly quarry]

take a revolver, shoot less 😛 *specifically empty your ammo once and go melee only from there

[ashen rampart]

Is there an easy way to tell who your team mates are ?

[inner mulch]

Hey anyone actually gotten the pysker achievement where you push 20 enemy off an edge. It's a bit of a pain and I was wondering if anyone has some tips for it?

[jolly quarry]

i think there are even more single shot versions that could fill the role but im not a sharpshooter player myself so i dont have access to all of em *but yeah that one is definitely good for the role you want to go for

[limpid walrus]

Bit up, i posted my strat which i call the Dr. Livesey strat. Map is Chasm Logistratum.

[inner mulch]

Sweet thanks man.

[heavy shuttle]

Roger thanks.

[ripe island]

Was the mechanic for enemies switching to melee adjusted at all in the last patch? Is there an official mention of this anywhere?

[jolly quarry]

in the patchnotes it said they made it "smoother" to bind ranged enemies in melee *as always not specific details with FS but i assume it means they increased the range where they wont shoot

[ashen rampart]

At which point do you get to have different gun?

[jolly quarry]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609

[ripe island]

Really? I can't find the mention of that. Was it under bugs?

[rocky sierra]

Does sustain fire reload apply per priority target you kill?

[slow fog]

This is the correct Ogryn take. People acting like his killing potential is what determines his worth. Tank is the only non-killing based role. He is a support class, not dps

[bleak maple]

blue chain axe or purple combat axe?

[cerulean crown]

Anyone recently run into a bug where you can't buy items at the shop because there's only one or two items?

[ashen rampart]

Okay I will try to find this inventory later

[slow fog]

Plus the stagger on melee as ogryn is just pure endorphins, watching those heretics going flying

[cerulean crown]

This is what my shop looks like right now

[stuck ridge]

Does the Plasma's Alt Fire create an explosion? It appears to, but I might be mistaken.

[jolly quarry]

"Locking the forces of chaos in melee should be a bit smoother while clamping down some of the more insane spikes in the pacing."
second to last paragraph over "update summary"

[nova cipher]

how do they get staggered by themselves?

[normal tendon]

People don’t get the role of tanks in Overwatch still after all these years I get it, his role isn’t obvious if you don’t know what to do and I get why people think he’s weak.

[slow fog]

Yeah the last patch was a bit of a difficulty nerf in general. They chilled special spawns on higher difficulties (4+ I think)

[jolly quarry]

by being blocked

[nova cipher]

blocking staggers enemies?

[jolly quarry]

yes *not all of them and to slightly differing degrees

[rigid wasp]

same, what the heck is going on

[sour flower]

any good?

[nova cipher]

I thought you had to push to stagger this whole time

[slow fog]

Its been a bug since beta launch, should clear on the next hour

[limpid walrus]

When you block an attack, they'll stagger themselves backwards. Assuming Poxwalkers/non elites

[rigid wasp]

it's been like that for at least two shop resets

[nova cipher]

is that just a psyker thing or darktide mechanic?

[cerulean crown]

Yeah this has been going on for a bit now I'm hoping it clears up after I hit 30, but this has been since 1pm

[jolly quarry]

definitely not, but it only applies to horde mobs and the ones that arent dedicated melees or specials/elites

[ripe island]

Ah I see it now thank you. Seems very vague though. I feel like this might not gauranteed be the same thing I was thinking of.

[bleak maple]

wer do i find grimories in the map?

[mighty heart]

question on the 100% acc penance for vet, can i literally just empty it once and then use melee or do i have to KEEP it empty after i get ammo from special kills

[azure spindle]

Is psykers Warp Battery Penance bugged cause I was doing so for more than 5 mins

[nova cipher]

they are randomly placed ... gotta search

[sour flower]

hello?

[jolly quarry]

as vague as literally every description in this game lol, but i do feel like im getting shot less by the back ranks of ranged blobs when i engage them in melee, even had shotgunners hold their fire 5 meters or so away

[slow fog]

Have to do it on difficulty 4+ not 3+. text is wrong

[mighty heart]

its meh, i personally dont like it in its current state, try it if you like

[nova cipher]

ah ok, thx

[knotty vessel]

When is the Disruption gamemode coming back in? Need it as the last mission for the psyker hood!

[sour flower]

alright

[tardy thicket]

What does the plasma gun do exactly.

I can't really figure it out

[dense sable]

The Bolter is pretty cool, but is the Recon Las an actual Lasgun with a real scope?

[mighty heart]

its an automatic lasgun

[autumn helm]

do headshots count as weakspot damage?

[cerulean crown]

It doesn't have a scope

[dense sable]

I'm unsure how I feel about that. Which ones have the better scope to assist with more accurate shots?

[weary inlet]

This is possible right now?

[mighty heart]

probably the normal lasguns, cause of their sight, or just use the lucius for precise charge up shots

[slow crest]

Give it a try! It really shreds and it's also super accurate.

[jolly quarry]

yes, with the caveat of maulers having carapace on their heads so youre better off shooting the body unless you got a crazy weakspot bonus

[cerulean crown]

On everything that doesn't specifically up-armor the head (a few enemies do) yes.

[ripe island]

Weird. I feel like I can never get shotgunners to not shoot me. So I wish I knew

[autumn helm]

asking mainly for the sharpshooter penance. Basically start volley, then headshot 4 enemies in a row, I assume

[mighty heart]

anyone got input on this question

[weary inlet]

I just saw a bro walk around with the armor saying that he completed magistrati in under 10 minutes, is that possible?

[twilit saffron]

is there a variant of the repair mission? ive seen ppl with their helmets but aint seen anything trying to get the 7 mission challenge done

[jolly quarry]

not at difficulty 4 lol i assume you mean the last zealot armor? i got it from failing a diff 4 mission in under 10 min xD

[mighty heart]

i legit did a sedition mission to get it, just so i can complete the penance

[dense sable]

This is the first Plasma Gun I'm seeing. It's really just unfortunate that every time I see a new weapon it's damage bar is low. Everything else is great though

[jolly quarry]

i dont think the damage matters much on a plasma gun 😛 it hits super hard anyway

[twilit saffron]

so there is a variant map of the repair mission? ive only seen power matrix HL-17-36

[verbal echo]

whats the difference between the dif riper guns?

[dense sable]

Oh, does it? Should I just grab this then just to see how Plasma guns are then? lmao

[mighty heart]

i think its only the power matrix one cause it makes sense that you would repair the power grid but i dont think there is any CURRENT variation, but maybe in the future

[charred sun]

Can someone help me determine which of these guns would be the better buy

[jolly quarry]

ye thats been my approach, get one of everything and take it to the meatgrinder, youll be surprised about some stuff and interactions

[autumn helm]

we currently have only 4 mission types available?

[jolly quarry]

90% of *armored enemies have flak armor so you might actually get more damage out of the first one

[junior oriole]

5 i think

[autumn helm]

assassination, strike, raid, repair is all I see

[hollow gyro]

has anyone figured out how to get this challenge done its damn near impossible

[charred sun]

thank you

[tardy thicket]

What does the plasma gun do

[nova cipher]

you won't see them all at once, they are on a rotation

[normal tendon]

Top one, but I probably wouldn’t use your coins on a ripper. It’s your choice though

[autumn helm]

well that sucks. Thanks

[mighty heart]

its an armor piercing weapon that builds up heat which dissipates over time, or you can use a key to vent it faster

[normal tendon]

So it requires setup using the talent that reduces cooldown for every elite killed by teammates in coherency and also using the cooldown reduction curios

I haven’t done it yet but it is possible, the curios are the issue

[weary inlet]

I'm pretty sure you can stack the double running duration with a horde kill and get your next charge before 25 seconds

[nova cipher]

You'll notice there's a timer for each mission when selecting a mission, when the timer runs out, more missions pop up taking it's place.

[mighty heart]

you can also charge it up by holding right click, and firing with it will build up a huge amount of heat

[stuck ridge]

Has a lot of damage and pen, and you can overcharge it with the braced shot (RMB).

You CAN also blow yourself up if you fire an overcharged shot at 100% heat.

[hollow gyro]

its 70 meters 2 rushes are 50 meters

[tardy thicket]

What does charge up do? Just more dmg?

[rocky sierra]

Plasma Gun > Bolter for veteran or no?

[ripe island]

From what I understand the damage bar adjusts the base damage value by a small % value. I think minimum bar and maximum bar are within 10% of the base damage value of the weapon. So pick for perk.

[mighty heart]

@tardy thicket Essentially

@rocky sierra Bolter cause it ends up just being way more useful

[hollow gyro]

i never knew these existed thankyou

[charred sun]

oh thank you that is good to know

[jolly quarry]

bolter is way more satisfying 😛 then again im saying that as a bolter wielding zealot who cant have plasma, but im still sure it holds true. then again bolters are pretty impractical even with the crazy dps

[bitter gust]

Is the Desert-y map not in rotation anymore? If so what was the issue with it?

[autumn helm]

Ah! So not the global condition timer. Righty-o

[normal tendon]

Yeah getting them to drop is a bitch, I’ve only seen others get them mostly, it’s annoying to need them for a challenge but oh well

[ripe island]

Bolter is exclusively useful for taking out bulwarks when you other teammates can't help you with it

[jolly quarry]

it was there at day one and then not anymore, no idea whats supposedly wrong with it, it played fine then

[north wolf]

Honestly, I do not know if I'm feeling the surge staff gameplay. You can only do a couple attacks, it doesn't do great damage, it needs ages to charge, it adds so much %, and for what? To "kinda" stun like 4 or 5 enemies if they're close enough together? In the time I charge the staff to stun them, I could have killed them with a heavy laspistol.

[half prairie]

does anyone know more about how the chainsword perk "+crit chance stacks for repeated hits" works? it seems a bit inconsistent even if im smacking the same target in the face over and over in the meatgrinder. is it intended to work off of chain rev?

[dense sable]

Im seeing that the Plasma Guns special is releasing heat. I also see blood around my screen as if Im getting hurt. Does venting heat actually hurt you? I cant see it in the Meatgrinder

[normal tendon]

Yeah I wish they’d bring it back, its all I need for the bandanna headgear

[lapis raven]

don't full charge it, just spam low charge for stuns @north wolf

[mighty heart]

it does hurt you when you release the heat to cool it

[jolly quarry]

its also great to one-tap hip fire (2 shot burst) any elites at medium range, 1 tap headshot stuff at long range, burst down any type of ogryn in 3 seconds and clear a (stacked in a line) horde with 3 shots *oh and do crazy suppression in a huge area with a single shot

[mortal nexus]

Can stun specials and elites with it pretty easy, even charging muties. It also stuns and knocks back poxbursters like crazy

[dense sable]

To be honest if a Bolter shot whizzed past my head I'd be suppressed too

[north wolf]

But then still, why stun enemies, that I could have killed with the same left click and less peril buildup? And stunning specials seems like a bad idea, because I'm supposed to headpop them.
I can't find a situation where I'd use the staff over sword, gun, or headpop.

[mortal nexus]

You haven't played on higher difficulties yet with massive hordes, have you? The lightning is invaluable for buying time

[lapis raven]

higher diffs make stuns better because enemies arent as easy to just kill

[dense sable]

How badly does the Plasma Guns vent hurt you? Or is it just best to switch to your sword after using it to let it cool?

[jolly quarry]

the only thing a bolter is bad at is ammo efficiency, and its crazy recoil which leads to slow fire rate if you need to actually aim

[mortal nexus]

Teaming up with a zealot with the flamer, we've duo-cleared level 3 hordes with the endless modifier

[jolly quarry]

i can do that solo with an eviscerator as long as im only swarmed at 180° and not 360°

[half prairie]

anyone else have trouble getting "+stacking crit chance for repeated hits" to proc despite smacking the same target repeatedly?

[mortal nexus]

Hence the lightning. Keeps them at bay

[jolly quarry]

weapon perk procs dont seem to show up as buffs, no matter which ones

[outer stream]

i like the accatran mk2 recon lasgun. mows through enemies atm

[half prairie]

weird, because OCCASIONALLY it was in the meatgrinder, might have been a zealot talent i wasnt noticing instead

[coral loom]

Ok fellow Zealots, How do you actually complete Abhor the Mutant (Kill a mutant with a melee whilst dashing) And Up close & Personal (Complete a mission on apparently Malice or higher without firing a shot, Done multiple times but no penance completion, is it higher than malice?)

[half prairie]

correction, 100% not one of my talents

[outer stream]

i had the mutant one 100% earlier but yet the penance didnt trigger. 90% sure bugged

[slow fog]

Any difficulty.
You need to weaken the mutant first - a good option is to have the psyker use brain burst on it once.
Use the combat axe, hold down LMB to charge a heavy hit BEFORE you push F, charge them and then slap, done

[half prairie]

combat axe or devil's claw worked well for that one

[jolly quarry]

shoot it a bit, charge it while also charging a heavy attack when it grabs someone, doesnt even matter which weapon, for me it was already beating up an ally so it doesnt need to currently move, you just need to get your hit off while you yourself are still charging

[manic moss]

For the abhor the mutant i needed to charge him while he was charging to complete it

[coral loom]

Having killed many mutants with a charge hit, and not having had it pop up, It does feel bugged

[half prairie]

it also helps to get your damage buff from low HP

[slow fog]

You're getting muddled with the Ogryn one maybe. You don't need to charge while they're charging, you just have to kill them with a hit while charging

[manic moss]

I tried a lot of time but only when i killed him while he was also charging at me did it count

[jolly quarry]

you need to get the hit out while youre still moving, only having your 5s buff active doesnt count

[slow fog]

If you're REALLY wanting to get it, go practice how many shots will reliably weaken it in the psykhanium. Once you can reliably one shot it on charge, youre good to go, just ask your team to leave a mutant alone

[coral loom]

And anyone for the Melee only? Is it actually malice or higher?

[jolly quarry]

i did it on heresy, also flamer doesnt count as shooting

[manic moss]

malice but you can use the flamethrower it doesn't count

[half prairie]

can confirm you need to be charging AND the mutant needs to be charging

[dull belfry]

is weapon rating increased by leveling up my character or equipping higher rated weapons

[normal tendon]

Also it’s not hard with a decent team anyways. Just need a vet and or Psyker duo whose worth a damn

[slow fog]

Im not at home so I can't check. I don't think this is a thing, I think you're getting muddled with the Ogryn penance to charge a charging plague Ogryn

[outer ivy]

Confirmed the answer is yes

[rocky sierra]

Yikes, plasmagun actually sucks lol

[verbal vine]

I literally ended up getting Abhor the Mutant by accident

I figured charging one of those dudes was stupid so I went for it

[slow fog]

General-chat, you mean Hyperbole-chat?
Me everytime I peak into the cesspit that is general chat recently haha

[normal tendon]

Still annoyed you can’t consistently counter charge a mutant. Somehow I can stop a charging plague Ogryn but not incest radiation baby number #45223 whose hyped up on some drugs?

[slow fog]

Yeah honestly, other than a boss or net, charging zealots/ogryns shouldn't be interruptible/slowable at all

[coral loom]

God I hate nets

[slow fog]

I hate the dang audio bug I have. Is anyone else getting like 3 net firing sounds before they actually shoot?

[dull belfry]

is weapon rating increased by leveling up my character or equipping higher rated weapons

[slow fog]

Levelling. I had a 475 (seems to be the soft cap) show up after hitting 30 and completing no missions since then

[mighty heart]

at this point going through the pain of missing or going down all the time isnt worth the cosmetic for 100% accuracy and no ammo remaining

[viral sail]

critical bonus on a weapon refers to both crit chance and damage?

[lapis raven]

probably use a revolver or shotgun for that no-ammo one and it'll be way easier i'd bet; just empty it into the large horde that's at the end of pretty much any mission

[mighty heart]

thats the kicker i am using a revolver

[whole parcel]

Did they make the game harder after the patch? Holy hell, i had never to deplete my flamer twice. Now even on the lowest difficulty we had so much hordes and specialists even without the "more hordes or specialists" condition.

[lapis raven]

it's only end with no ammo?

[mighty heart]

it says to complete a heresy mission with no ammo remaining and 100% acc, of which on vet, special kills give ammo which is super annoying

[lapis raven]

yeah honestly just unload it into the ending horde

[coral loom]

Revolver

[lapis raven]

play with friends or tell your team at the beginning that you're trying for the penance and you'll have a better time, i suspect

[bronze goblet]

Yes. Dodge timer went from .85 sec to 1 sec. Other than that, idk

[real portal]

allright, so with the penance bug that occured due to the server crash. We redid penances on heresy+ and I explicity did it twice with warp battery, had timer clocked for 5 minutes and both times I did not trigger penance... is there any way to solve this?

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[dense sable]

So the Plasma Gun is pretty awesome, but I still prefer a Lasgun or Bolter over it in my own personal playstyle. Unless Im jsut not using it properly

[humble pendant]

wait is it tho? havent seen one

[normal tendon]

It’s the Power Matrix one

[bronze goblet]

Is disruption still unavailable

[normal tendon]

Currently yes it seems

[slow fog]

Does the plasma gun cause an explosion on charged fire? Might be a good option for the 100% accuracy 0 ammo penance

Since I imagine it is an ammo thirsty gun

[crimson stag]

they patched that

[civic spade]

As it stands I don't think so, I have a similar issue with the first helmet unlock, I beat the repair mission for my 7/7 while server outage happened and now it just reads 7/7 without it being complete and I can't do anything with it. Depending on their fix for this issue it might end up requiring a wipe or maybe a rollback

[grave briar]

Ok, so, what exactly are "Flash Missions" to get your class helmet?

[real portal]

wipe wouldnt solve it as it could happen again

[torpid grotto]

The game screwed me out of the "Make every shot count" penance. Imagine fighting through hordes with just the power sword and at the very end pulling out a revolver.

[tidal imp]

Stats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[dense sable]

Did you fire a shot at all?

[slow fog]

So with the 100% accuracy thing - could you not just empty your clips then go die and have your party clear it a man down?

Just have them run past you when they can rescue

[rigid wasp]

Truly losing my mind trying to complete make every shot count. Any tips & hints?

[grave briar]

plasma gun, fire into crowds to guarantee 100%

Don't pick up any more ammo for the rest of the mission, ez

[fringe igloo]

I have a rad heavy special and monster killer build for plasma.

[bold bronze]

I've heard other people say they complete it by alt+f4ing before mission complete *and rejoining

[torpid grotto]

I honestly wish I have a crappier revolver with less ammo.

[rigid wasp]

havent thought of this. Will give it a go. Cheers

[bold bronze]

Only problem; Sharpshooter regains ammo when killing some enemies.

[grave briar]

Can someone PLEASE explain what a "Flash Mission" Is? I'm at 6/7 missions

[grave briar]

yes, but it's minimal with plasma, easy to drop regenned shots into packs

[slow fog]

Did you see my suggestion? Once you're at 100% accuracy with an empty clip, go die and ask your party not to res you. Can't regain ammo if you're captured (I would think).
Need a party whos cool to do it obviously

[silver ridge]

You could also just fire the minimal ammo you regain at the end at the endless hordes on some maps

[dull carbon]

You can make this penance half as difficult if you die at the very beginning of the map as your ammo count is halved.

[torpid grotto]

So essentially be gone for the rest of the game or at the very end?

[bold bronze]

It would also have to be very specific maps if you want to just play the rest of the map 3 man...like, assassination maps feel impossible with even 1 death.

[ripe island]

Does bulwark shield count for 100% accuracy?

[dull carbon]

haven't tested it but it's logical

[slow fog]

I mean it depends on how good your party is. If they can comfortably 3 man the whole mission, then earlier is better, less chance of missing a shot

[stuck ridge]

The Cooling Rod Mission, basically. Has a little Wrench icon.

[slow fog]

Again though, I don't know if this would technically work, seems like it should though

[humble pendant]

bet i ll look for it

[junior oriole]

Does Ogryn require larger objects for cover?

[bold bronze]

Ogryn is the cover....what are you talking about? *Veteran player

[junior oriole]

ah ha ha

[slow fog]

PSA: Ogryns carry barrels faster. For the objectives where you need to take barrels to a place

[dense temple]

I'm level 15 but getting access to thunder hammer already??

[cerulean crown]

Hey so we're on hour 4 of this bug and I still only have two items in the shop this is like, desperately bad. Does anyone have solutions or fixes?

[rigid wasp]

ok how the heck do I fix this shop not having more than 2 unusable items? I can't progress

[bold bronze]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[pure marsh]

What level do pkasma guns start showing up in shop

[cerulean crown]

Literally first thing I tried.

[slow fog]

Not sure what the policy is but it may be worthwhile pinging hedge

[bold bronze]

Have you tried turning it off and letting it sit for a while (let a whole hour of shop pass by, as in 1:59-3:01 so that you skip a whole set)? I don't know if its a fix, but it just sounds like a possible thing.

[limpid walrus]

Is Disruption in rotation rn?

[dull carbon]

Validate game files, reinstall? It's a hail mary but what else have you got?

[bronze goblet]

apparently not

[cerulean crown]

I did that as well, went to go get groceries.

[slow fog]

One thing that might also be worthwhile is switching characters. Do other characters have the issue?

[dull carbon]

Is it only one one character that you're affected?

[fallen rock]

this worth getting?

[cerulean crown]

It's only one character afflicted right now.

[slow fog]

On zealot yes

[barren sentinel]

Anyone know the optimal anti-armor combo for evicerator?

[sly condor]

15%%

[bleak vessel]

Hi, would anyone be willing to help me with the cliffhanger penance? asking randos to help on Chasm is making me have a psyker moment

[dull carbon]

Yes, she's a beaut

[unborn pilot]

Best melee weapons for vet?

[dense moat]

powersword

[bronze goblet]

I prefer the Catachan swords, powerswords or chainsword

[dense sable]

I definitely personally prefer the Power Sword over the other two, but the other two are still good

[dull carbon]

No one can really tell you the best at the moment, I'd encourage you to try everything out because community consensus isn't personal preference. The knife is hot trash though, avoid completely. It got a big nerf last patch. Swords are excellent tho

[ripe island]

Def powersword

Knives are only good for zealot if you build the objectively correct zealot build

[honest ice]

how good is ogryn's payback time

[raw mango]

whats the objectively correct zealot

[soft wing]

could you elaborate? what exactly is the "objectively" correct zealot build?

[subtle urchin]

does anytome know if this will actually give +18% toughness?

[ripe island]

Yeah. This only applies for level 30 though sadly. You need you build crit and bleed and use knife light attacks with the melee crit cooldown reduction perk at level 30

[plain harness]

Why would it not?

[dull carbon]

They recently nerfed dodging which made knives usable. Unless you got a bleed gimmick now they're crap.

[ripe island]

Knives as a dodge tool isn't viable but it can be used for another meta build

[bold bronze]

One of the axes is super dodgy...might be an alternative if you are just looking for that?

[raw mango]

would it inhibit me that much not to follow the meta builds? also is there a way to look at them? although im quite low level so atm im assuming it doesn't matter

[tranquil grove]

Me when I can't do a penance because lag sometimes eats shots or hitmarkers. Im literally being gaslit by the game.

[stuck ridge]

So the Plasma Gun is bae :)

The Braced shot (Overcharge) explodes if it hits a surface and pierces all enemies in a line. It also does massive damage. However, if you fire it while you're at full heat, you WILL explode, which automatically downs you.

The Standard shot fires a decent damage, decent penetration projectile, and it won't kill you if you fire it at 100% heat, in fact, you will actually cycle it down to 80%.

The Special Action vents heat, it takes about 2-3 seconds to go from 100% to ~30% heat.

Cons are low ammunition.

[marble violet]

anyone wanna help me get the psycher cliffhanger challenge?

[tight shale]

I really wish it didn't do chip damage to your health when venting. That adds up, especially on higher difficulties where you expect to get chip damage through toughness from melee and need as much extra buffer as you can get.

[knotty vessel]

when is disruption coming back into rotation?

[vital moon]

Most important curios stats for Heresy+?

[feral gust]

Is there anything batter about the forcesword than the chainsord?
I get to do same damage without the peril

[alpine flicker]

Psykers now get their force weapons much earlier,
Any other class has this update?

[feral gust]

I guess that's the ONE advantage forcesword has over chainsword then: get it earlier

[alpine flicker]

Literally level 1

[peak igloo]

I have a bolter with "pinning fire" that increases power by 12% for every enemy that gets staggered, but I would like to know what "power" means in this case, does anyone know?

[marble violet]

i believe thats the stagger amount

[peak igloo]

I would think so to, but then I also have a power sword that increases power on kill.

So I think its something else.

[tranquil grove]

Power is the magic number weapons have

Increasing power increases your damage, just differently.

[inner mulch]

Are there any other variants of the force sword other than the Blaze version? I remember seeing something in the trailer that wasn't a force sword for the psyker, but looked like it with a curved hilt. Is that something?

[remote gust]

Is nobody playing over Malice or is matchmaking just broken because when I try to join higher difficulty missions it's just bots.

[alpine flicker]

Also tankiness in a way I think?

[slow fog]

Forcesword trait that lets you block ranged attacks is no joke

[leaden basin]

Is it possible to do the 7 types of missions Penance?

[slow fog]

There is a sabre, but its not a force/power weapon. It's just a sabre

[alpine flicker]

Can you use chai sword on Psyker?

[inner mulch]

yup

[normal tendon]

Currently disruptor isn’t in the game

The rest are.

[alpine flicker]

Another reason for force sword over chainsword ;
Peril manipulation, if used with the right traits it matters

[feral gust]

I . did . not . know . that.

[leaden basin]

any idea of when it come to the game?

[slow fog]

It is a trait, so it has to be blue minimum. It's not a default thing

[normal tendon]

Sadly I don’t think we do, hopefully soon.

[leaden basin]

ok thx

[slow fog]

I could very well be wrong on this, but I think the chainsword isn't very effective on spec against crushers, whereas the FS is

[pure marsh]

nah the fchain sword is better as long as its reved im pretty sure at leasst the chain axe is

[coral loom]

Yay, I did the mutie penance, But with a Knife

[half prairie]

is "block 600 damage in 10 seconds" doable with riot shield ogryn?

[torn isle]

Does warp resistance on the force sword affect spell casting costs when im using my staff or brain burst? I could ask the same question with the staff and brain burst.

[slow fog]

I don't think so. My only evidence of this fact is that quelling with BB equipped took about half a second longer than when I had my staff equipped, implying the bonuses to quelling etc only work while you have the item in your hand

[torn isle]

the talent doens't seem to work for quelling while moving with BB as well. Im thinking something might be broken there, but I definitely could be wrong.

[mortal bough]

good evening i have a problem i can no longer play i even liked the beta file. how to do please

[slow fog]

Full movement on quelling definitely works. I think the staff already gave some movement on quell without the talent, so that might be skewing your perception

[dapper fulcrum]

yes, u can test it in psycha

[torn isle]

Doesn't work as of last night. I can fully quell with sword or staff and move, BB im right down to a crawl. (with talent equipped)

[slow fog]

Hm, I only played zealot yesterday so I can't say for certain, but at least in the previous days quelling with BB still gave regular movement with the talent

[torn isle]

I still think you're right about the quell being linked to equipped item though, its a bit of a bummer because I think it reduces teh value of the sword. But then I guess I can use a chain sword lol

[olive hull]

What does a scab look like?

[cursive citrus]

so whats the difference between the Mk II, VI, and VII recon lasguns? from 'torrent', sounds like the VI is lower damage faster fire rate, but no idea what VII vs II is

[slow fog]

Mook in black armour, usually with a club or a lasgun. I think the gunner/flamer variants also count

[olive hull]

Ty

[normal tendon]

Four and five

[uncut verge]

I just watched a video on stats, and apparently melee is always faster to quell than staff

[torn isle]

dammit papa I want a 1h chainsword on psyker lol

[uncut verge]

Sorry, auto quell

[slow fog]

You can get 1h chainsword on psyker

Unlocks fairly late - at least for me it only turned up post 20 roughly

[torn isle]

Lol I know, I just meant in terms of weighing value. If warp stat and autoquell is better on sword it makes an argument ot keep force rather than adopt something else

[uncut verge]

Test them in meat grinder, I think the auto quell is the same. It’s a hidden stat though

[torn isle]

I'll pop 24 tonight, still a ways to go. Its fun but I feel a bit weak compared to team mates

[slow fog]

Are you using a voidstrike/lightning staff?

[torn isle]

Our ogryn makes plays for days, zealot grenade is a life saver, and a good vet does work to both hordes and specials. I feel solid at hordes and specials if im not crowded, the second I have pressure things feel like they fall apart

[slow fog]

Cause that was when I went from being good, to a one man wrecking ball

[cobalt garnet]

How often does Sire Melk refresh for other people? For me it's every day, for a friend of mine it's every hour.

[torn isle]

the uh, ball of death that goes through people. I know the lightning feels good against specials but I felt useless for hordes

[slow fog]

Yeah voidstrike, thats what I use too

[torn isle]

great wave clear, abillity to pop balls early if need be for a little cc. Lightning just felt super meh until you were dealing with all armoured or elites, then it was god tier

[bleak maple]

who ever designed , YOU loose grimiore when you die should be fired from the game

[lilac talon]

Ask him how he did that. I wish mine refreshed every hour.

[cobalt garnet]

Its been taht way since vermintide 1 its really not that bad

[slow fog]

Thats been a thing since Vermintide

[uncut verge]

Grimm carriers can’t die, that’s all lol

[bleak maple]

i had 2 server crash and died

[sour depot]

For me too its whatever he feels like. Every hour, few h or day

[uncut verge]

Tomes and Grims did feel like a better system in VT

[zealous pawn]

“I didn’t play VT but I think DT should be how I want it not how the VT community wants it”

[surreal perch]

how does the emperors gift work exactly? is it better to just do malice and guarantee a win or risk a heresy to get better luck at epic/legendary?

[iron ledge]

@paper coral buddy of mine went to barber and lost his cadian purple eyes. Can’t get them back

[slow fog]

Yeah IMO I think two Grims should give a guaranteed Emps gift rather than just a piddly amount of money and xp

[uncut verge]

This is known and will be fixed

[iron ledge]

Ty, went to forums and didn’t see it

[torn isle]

Any opinions on if the chip damage through toughness is here to stay? its nbd until grimoires where suddenly that corrupted health starts stacking up.

[uncut verge]

Yes

You’re supposed to avoid taking melee hits. Toughness was added mostly due to all the ranged fire

Zealot would be nigh invincible without chip damage

[iron ledge]

Good

[slow fog]

I guess there is an argument to be made that it is also a replacement for temp hp

[cursive citrus]

the problem is you cant block or dodge every melee hit when they spawn behind you and dodge keeps getting nerfed, and you can't outrun them ever under any circumstances

[lapis raven]

they still kinda are if you have that talent that gives you regen when your death-ward triggers

[torn isle]

I generally don't have any issue with the chip damage except with grimoires. It gets real painful real quick when I can't heal without an aid station

[uncut verge]

[lapis raven]

grimoires only hit a small amount of your health bar tbf (just under 1/3 or so iirc?); the rest of the corruption is healable

[uncut verge]

Can tell who didn’t play Vermintide around here 😂

[outer wedge]

i need help

[rigid wasp]

I need some gameplay help regarding performance.

I have a 1060ti 6gb and a i7-8700k intel cpu, could I run this game or nah?

[zealous pawn]

If you’re doing grim missions you put on grim resistance curios.. just attempt to work around the situation instead of complaining lmao

[torn isle]

I played plenty of vermintide -__- Just thought a new game meant maybe new things.

[iron ledge]

The enemy spawning does make it an issue, i watched as a ogryn spawned behind my friend like a pop in

[cursive citrus]

the doors enemies can spawn in need a red light or something to signify "THIS IS A DOOR, not a nonfunctional prop"

[lilac talon]

Does corruption reduce the amount of lives you get? or it purely visual?

[rigid wasp]

Anyone know if I can run the game on this or no? ;-;

[lapis raven]

the way dt functions makes being meleed way more of an impact tbf because you can't easily just "heal" it up with temp health

[uncut verge]

This has always been a thing in Tide series lol

[zealous pawn]

Not hard to get a set of wounds/resist and grim missions are braindead easy

[torn isle]

at level 30 end game I'll have access to items and crafting and all sorts of stuff to help with grimoire corruption, but that aint now. Plus things more likely to change now then later IMO.

[slow fog]

If there is purple in a segment of health, it means that wound is no longer functional

[zealous pawn]

If you don’t have Lego curios you’ve likely been very unlucky with gifts

[lilac talon]

So it does, then.

[iron ledge]

Mostly in Vermintide they spawned in off screen when I played, or in those outside areas. i watched this dude two ft from him and insta gib

[rigid wasp]

Anyone able to help? ';-;

[slow fog]

Yeah more or less

[bronze goblet]

I have 1070, and it runs fine. Don't know about 1060

[lapis raven]

the enemies still spawn off map, they just have ways of getting into the map like dropping from the ceiling or walking through doors

[cursive citrus]

in vermintide spawns were almost always off screen or around a corner or something. Now they can pop in literally 2 ft away from you right after youclear the area and make sure everything is dead

[rigid wasp]

I got the 1060ti and a i7-8700k so I was hoping someone could tell me if that's ok enough to run it on low.

[torn isle]

rage inducing when a grenadier drops flames and just ninja jumps back into a ceiling tile. OK BYE

[stiff marsh]

im getting insane screen tearing and way less frames than before the update

[bitter sphinx]

Dont know if im misunderstanding but knife through butter is supposed to have unlimited cleave - but it seems to still stop after just a few enemies? is this bugged?

[cursive citrus]

cuz the doors and things that work like doors blend into the nonfunctional wall decorations. And trappers and grenadiers abuse the hell of of their ability to go out of the map

[lapis raven]

yeah a bomber just flying like 20ft into the air to leave the map is kinda comical but they're pretty easy to stagger

[zealous pawn]

Your veteran should have hit ultimate and killed it? Lmao

[bronze goblet]

Might be worth just waiting to buy it on 30th, trying to run it and refunding if you can't.

[quaint gyro]

i want to have the ability to tear out doors everytime a trapper runs out of a door traps someone and then hides bahind the spawndoor. FIGHT ME YOU COWARD BITCH

[torn isle]

if im not max peril or otherwise getting it up the rear end he's BB and he's dying regardless. But when he doesn't its just like the dogs jumping into teh stratosphere

[lapis raven]

honestly the doors work fine as places they can get in, they're really obvious

[stiff marsh]

can any one help me with my graphics problems?

[cursive citrus]

no, go to the official forums for that

[stiff marsh]

where can i find that?

[grim relic]

What's the best place to do Cliffhanger penance for Psyker

[tawdry cape]

My Duo is using a 1060 as well, not even a TI. With updated drivers and low settings, he says he's doing fine.

[lilac talon]

A bridge.

[rigid wasp]

I mean eventually I plan to upgrade to a 3060ti probably around christmas, but I've been waiting for Darktide since it was first announced.

So I was really hoping I could squeeze ok performance out of my 1060ti and i7-8700k cpu on low settings.

Anyone else know if I can do that?

[cursive citrus]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=darktide+official+forums

[rich smelt]

Any good build for Ogryn? I would like to play it with shield

[grim relic]

there's one spesific mission that has a great end bridge I can't remember what it was

[rigid wasp]

What does he mean by fine? Like is it still pretty playable or a slideshow.

[slow fog]

Probably the little retractable bridge that leads to the exit plane on the ammunition loading mission. You can have your team wait on the other side so theres no risk to the mission if you go down. Have a zealot throw a stun grenade and then move off the bridge so you're facing them on a diagonal

[grim relic]

No

[lilac talon]

Not sure what you're talking about. I liked doing it in the Silo map though. (which was phased out)

[patent sapphire]

when do bolters start showing up

[lilac talon]

We should pin that unlock guide.

[lilac talon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609

[patent sapphire]

where’s the guide?

[rigid wasp]

I've looked at a lot of youtube videos of people playing darktide on the same gpu as mine but idk better to hear it from someone, esp because my 1060ti is not overclocked.

[patent sapphire]

thanks

[solemn parcel]

🤔 why am i only getting 2 items for shop refresh?

[paper nest]

why is the dodge so terrible now

[burnt pendant]

Does the voidstrike staff fire multiple projectiles?

[slow fog]

No

[lapis raven]

dodge is still fine it just doesn't take you 40km away from your target; time it right and you'll be all good

[tired crown]

No, just one big one depending on how long you charge it.

[rigid wasp]

i wish they'd fix it already, can't progress because there's nothing in the shop to buy

[burnt pendant]

Shop has one with "Sustained Fire". +5% damage on second and third shot in Salvo. How does that work?

[tired crown]

They increased* the time between dodges, the cool down is now 1.1sec

[noble imp]

What rank does the plasma gun turn up im level 26 and still no sign of the only gun i actually want to use in this game

[slow fog]

Are you a veteran?

[honest ice]

how much does bleed stack

[noble imp]

ofc

[tired crown]

I saw it around 25, should be any time for you now

[slow fog]

#gameplay-help message

[hearty citrus]

cant decide what class to main...feelsbad

[noble imp]

Just hating the RNG when i just want even a crap white quality plasma

[rocky sierra]

Idk plasma gun is really bad

[tranquil grove]

Why doesnt vantage point say what I'm missing lol?

[noble imp]

its personal preference at end of the day i just want the plasma the bolter is alright but still

[rocky sierra]

The problem with plasma is the huge reload time and self dmg for less DPS/Range and practically everything compared to bolter.

[noble imp]

Run the reload perks will be fine

[rocky sierra]

You sacrifice a lot of dmg by running those though.

[noble imp]

is what it is im not trying to have the best build just the build i want with the gun i want

[last osprey]

Does 'purple health' affect martydom stacks for Zealot?

[mighty gazelle]

TIL you can slide on Beast of Nurgle slime forever to move across it fast

[slow fog]

Purple health - corruption - is a max health negative, so no

[last osprey]

TY

[oak gyro]

Is the psyker achievement for keeping max stacks for 5 minutes still bugged?

[slow fog]

It has to be done on difficulty 4+ not 3+ as listed

[oak gyro]

Bruh

[coral loom]

Hey uh, Does having a taller character, mean you have a bigger hitbox, I would assume no....But

[slow fog]

I would imagine so, the tradeoff being you have better line of sight

[bold bronze]

I imagine "yes" but also "it doesn't matter". The enemies either aim correctly at you, or you dodge/sprint and they can't track you correctly...theres not really an inbetween.

[coral loom]

They track me pretty well when I sprint and dodge! xD

[bold bronze]

You get what I mean though right? They are either storm troopers, or they are accurate. Size doesn't really factor much, except in the case of Ogryn vs Human.

[coral loom]

Yea

[bold saffron]

ooh hey Level 22 and I found a useable plasma gun

[stuck ridge]

For the Sniper Perk, does it track the distance to the first enemy or each enemy individually in the case of a weapon that Pierces?

[slow fog]

How is the chain axe for the zealot btw? Is it similar to the combat axe?

Cause I've really been enjoying the combat axe, but am working toward the eviscirator. I've heard the evi is the best melee option, but I'm curious how the chain axe stacks up against it

[noble imp]

This hurts me internally i hate this rng

[fresh parcel]

Chain axe has significantly less CC than its other chain counterparts, but makes up for it in raw special destroying potential. Frankly, you're better off with an Evi in more situations, since your primary job would normally be dealing with hordes. Any Vet with a bolter or power sword can handle anything bigger than a mauler.

[slow fog]

If it has the same moveset as the axe, I do fine killing/controlling hordes (got use that push stab). I'll give it a whirl once I unlock it, hope its good!

[honest ice]

for ogryns payback time feat, is it for enemy types like bomber, gunner, etc. Or is it normal, special , elites?

[fresh parcel]

Anything you get hit by gets payback.

[timber steppe]

''there s nothing but the abyss'' for the love of god has anyone done this penance? It's driving me insane.

[slow fog]

Which one is that? It's a zealot one yeah?

[plush galleon]

Does the Consignment Yard mission exist?

[fresh parcel]

A lot of the feats are downright frustrating. There's no way I'm getting Heavyweight Champion anytime soon.

[shy dagger]

Is there a community-based, general suggestion for which difficulty you should be playing at which Trust level, or is it more competence-based thing, so you've got people running difficulty 5 at Trust 5?

[timber steppe]

Yeah with the regen from 0 to full health

[fresh parcel]

It's all competence. Personally, increasing difficulty every five levels should be about right.

[quasi spade]

Is it still possible to complete "vantage point" penance?

[slow fog]

Oh yeah no idea on that one sorry. I would assume getting into a situation with an endless horde that gets funneled into a small area is the way to go. The little bridge that leads to the exit plane on the ammo loading mission is a good option

[timber steppe]

np i will keep bashing my head against the wall xD

[lilac talon]

Tier 1-3, level 1-19.
Tier 4, level 20+
Tier 5, level 25+

This is what I personally think.

[coral bronze]

did they change bursters? i haven't been able to successfully shove one since the patch and i've never failed to do it until now

[stuck ridge]

After testing, Piercing shots seem to be unaffected by the Sniper perk, which only affects the first enemy hit.

[slow fog]

The enemies will literally never stop coming and if you stack up with your party to block and hold the enemies there, you should get a healthy amount. Once you've got enough throw a grenade, pop your thing and go ham.
Do ranged weapons work? If so a flamer is probably your best option due to the innate pen @timber steppe

[fresh parcel]

I want to do Gone Bowling, so I might try that mission.

[clear sun]

What may be the mission I lack for the achievement to complete all mission types? Are the types listed anywhere?

[slow fog]

If you're using a force sword, they reduced the range of the push. Might be whats doing it

[fresh parcel]

Disruption was available on day 1 but removed because of crashes.

[timber steppe]

Problem is you need to hit 0 health but not have any corruption as you wont heal to full, also you cant be hit while the health is regening, I've pulled it off but even with a good flamer +60 enemy's stacked only managed 40% of the damage required.

[stuck ridge]

The Mission Types are:

• Espionage (Upload disinformation to a cogitator)
• Strike (Kill Daemons and get a facility running again)
• Disruption (Not currently available)
• Repair (Cooling Rods Mission)
• Assassination (Kill a boss, usually a Traitor Captain)
• Raid (Steal Ammunition)
• Investigation (Collect Samples)

[slow fog]

Hm yeah sorry I dunno - my zealot is only level 11 at the mo

[timber steppe]

I actually did a charged special heavy attack with preacher ultimate on ogryn weakspot and did only 30% damage required also =/, I need to sleep been trying to do 1 penance for 6 hours today goodnight =\

[clear sun]

I probably miss the disruption...?

[stuck ridge]

Probably, it's the only one I'm missing

[fresh parcel]

I got lucky and did Disruption when the game opened.

[grave fox]

Is the "Just A Flesh Wound" cheese still possible? I tried several times on Diff 5/5 where I should have gotten it (Down to 1 Health Bar in >1 minute, Survived 5-7 minutes) but won't work

[honest gazelle]

Am I hearing correctly heresy is bugged with endless horde always?

[worn relic]

i did it today before servers went whack

[still vector]

Were there map modifiers beside more/less hordes and visibility fog in the open beta? isn't there supposed to be some power surge one?

[umbral fable]

wernt we getting power surge one for release?

[tight shale]

Depends. Is Heresy+ still broken such that every mission gets the Endless Horde modifier applied, whether it's supposed to have it or not?

[still vector]

Idk I thought it was enabled already

[lapis raven]

i think that's been fixed

[umbral fable]

i havent seen it yet so i ll say no for now

[jaunty python]

anyone can help me with the friends will be friends penance achievement from ogrynn?

[bitter summit]

top 3 guns for veteran? 🙂

[warped talon]

When did you get your first Eviscerator as a Zealot?

[bold saffron]

I got On Overwatch lol

[fresh parcel]

Bolter, Plasma, Recon.

[bold saffron]

Yup

[lapis raven]

braced autogun does well too

[bold saffron]

Soooooooo btw On Overwatch can be completed by DCing on extraction your team waiting and you coming back and getting in the Valk

[earnest steppe]

What are y'alls experience with the trappers. I've had more than a few runs end now because 3 or 4 spawn at once and immediately trap the team upon spawning. Like not even enough time to hear the audio cue and try to dodge

[lapis raven]

pretty easy to dodge them and they die quick

[warped talon]

I would take a Kantrael MG12 over a plasma gun

[bold saffron]

Plasma is Kinda in need of a Lil something to make it a good gun

[fresh parcel]

I never have problems dodging trappers. Their wind-up sound is way too noticeable.

[slow fog]

On TT plasma gun was basically an anti-armoured infantry weapon right?

[minor tendon]

Has anyone managed to do the Ogryn's 70 meter bullrush penance?

[fresh parcel]

Yes. You almost have to be level 30, though. The extra distance, plus CD on special kill makes it easy on Heresy.

[bold saffron]

its not bad its just not better than a Bolter or a Recon Las rifles (Plasma guns)

[burnt pendant]

So, as we already established that staves don't multifire:
What does "+5% damage on second and third shot" mean on a voidstrike staff

[brazen pumice]

hi all plz help I did everything vpn,internet.atd and anyway it reports me error 2007

[minor tendon]

I have the 100% increase from the lvl. 30 perk, do I just need to find elites and carry momentum or did you use curios as well?

[warped talon]

Its Rapid Fire S6 AP1 or S7 if you want to risk Gets Hot. Or whatever current year rules equivalent is. This means it works fine against infantry but is intended for heavy infantry and light vehicle work

[gray roost]

Have we found a fix to this? Happened to me on todays serwer crash

[slow fog]

Yeah I meant anti armoured-infantry

[fresh parcel]

Some weapons get perks that shouldn't be there. On the single shot shotgun for Ogryn, it has a chance of getting the consecutive shots perk which is worthless.

[west marsh]

lemmie know if you find one @gray roost my zealot is bugged like that too 😐

[slow fog]

So yeah I guess the plasma should probably slap out a bit more anti armour damage. I imagine the bolter doesn't perform particularly well against crushers etc?

[fresh parcel]

Pretty much. Any gunners and shotgunners count toward the CD, so get your team to focus them.

[ornate heart]

Wish they'd tell us what levels unlock everything because I've yet to see a disruption mission.

[warped talon]

It does if you get Rend. You can one mag them or less.

[bold bronze]

Fun fact; if you need to walk away from the game and don't want it to 'inactivity' kick you, you can go to the Meatgrinder and apparently that area doesn't register inactivity.

Also fun fact; Meatgrinder is apparently way more intensive on your computer in comparison to the lobby area, so this acts as a great space heater for the winter....

[fresh parcel]

And you won't. It was removed on day 1 because of crashes.

[ornate heart]

Then how the hell am I supposed to get my helmet

[west marsh]

wait til they're all active again

[minor tendon]

Awesome, thanks, I'll get my sharpshooter buddy to help me out with the elite kills.

[fresh parcel]

That's the fun part. You don't. At least not until they add another mission type.

[west marsh]

wish we had a heads up as to when those missions will be returned to us 🙂

[fresh parcel]

Saaame.

[ornate heart]

Wish the missions just weren't on a bloody rotation to begin with.

[fresh parcel]

Because now that I have my helmet, I need to do another Disruption on Malice for the second helmet.

[west marsh]

my zealot helmet got bugged 😐

[open cargo]

How do you know which mission types you have played? I’m at 6/7 on a challenge and have no idea which one I’m missing

[ornate heart]

^this as well

[fresh parcel]

You can go to another tab of penances, and it should tell you how many of each mission type you've played for the achievement.

[knotty stratus]

any tips for the cliffhanger pskyer penance?

[brazen pumice]

hi help plz,I did everything vpn,internet.atd and anyway it reports me error 2007

[west marsh]

endless horde, malice on the ammo mission

[bold saffron]

Lookin Stylish for sure

If Plasma isn't as Useful as my bolter It just means Its more stylish for sure

[stuck ridge]

Excuse you bot! Rude >:(

Anyway, I actually like plasma more than bolter I think

[slow fossil]

https://i.imgur.com/rOl3Z1l.png is this normal? im not getting the reward

[ornate heart]

Also I can only imagine they're not gonna tweak the damn near impossible difficulty of some of the penances that classes have because it'll bring people into the cash shop to just buy cosmetics.

[bold saffron]

@ornate heart What ones are impossible? I got Both the Stupid hard Sharpshooter ones done

[knotty stratus]

which missions did you do im at 5/7 thinking its the two mission types that havent released yet

[slow fossil]

on the first day there was a mission on a desert

[uncut verge]

this is a bug, they're aware and it'll be fixed

[stuck ridge]

Seems a bit presumptive of motive.

The ledge missions are a bit ridiculous, but I don't see thsoe staying.

[bold saffron]

also the new one Repair

[wide swift]

What are 'infested' enemies

[slow fossil]

over? you mean again?

[uncut verge]

which is impossible while the other one is out of rotation lol

[lapis raven]

yeah but that's not going to be the case when the game's actually released, is it?

[stuck ridge]

You are, assuming you've played every Mission today, probably missing Disruption and Espionage.

Disruption was removed because something in the mission was causing a disproportionate amount of crashes. Espionage was pulled, but I don't yet know why.

Repair dropped today, which was nice.

[uncut verge]

hopefully that's just a beta limit

[rough hemlock]

Has anyone done this challenge?

[stuck ridge]

So what are people thinking Hadron's shop is going to be? Crafting? Or maybe other things, like Implants? I... kinda hope we get Implants. Like, limit of one, and it takes the spot of a Curio, but is generally more powerful/immediate.

[ornate heart]

Also the fact that weapons are on a rotation in the shop is super annoying. Like, I feel like a lot of stuff in this game just feels significantly grindier compared to Vermintide.

[fresh parcel]

They already said crafting was a thing that was going to be in the game on release. I assume their area is for crafting.

[knotty stratus]

each type a day? i just hit quickmatch all day

[stuck ridge]

Hopefully that will be mitigated by both Crafting and the addition of more shops and stuff. Like, we have 2 shops available but there's cutscenes for like 4 others.

[runic axle]

How do i unlock my cosmetics for buying the special edition

[uncut verge]

You get them on release

[stuck ridge]

Ah, I tend to select missions individually. The little Icon tells you what they are. Crosshairs is Assassination, for example

[runic axle]

will i have to restart again?]

[cursive citrus]

uh did they stealth nerf power swords today during maintenance?

[knotty stratus]

so its not because repair and espionage arent implemented?

[stuck ridge]

No???

[cursive citrus]

my power sword is doing almost half of what it used to per charged hit on crushers in the psykhanium. Still slices through crowds like nothing, but somehow crushers and other ogryns specificallly are taking way less damage

[wintry sigil]

I've been seeing repair all day today

[fresh parcel]

Did you have a power sword with elite damage?

[cursive citrus]

nope, its the same green sword I tested out for the first time yesterday on them. Was hitting ~300 per heavy swing with malice threat. Only 170 today, 240 to the head. still does over 300 on the mauler carapace head

hmm, its hitting harder again. Do some crushers have different damage resistance values than others? I assumed they'd all be the same just look different

[fresh parcel]

Crushers still suffer the damage bonus from getting hit in the face.

Also, Crushers have Carapace Armor, whereas most other enemy types have Flak.

[cursive citrus]

maybe im just light attacking when trying to heavy. im noticing sometimes it winds up, then somehow does a light attack despite charging a heavy

[visual jacinth]

Does anyone know how to raise the gear score after hitting level 30? Do I just need to hold higher item levels in my inventory and then it will continue to climb over time?

[feral gust]

my shop only shows two items

• dunno if it's a bug
• if i reload, I'm scared I might not get back in.

[fresh parcel]

I would assume that you should be wearing higher tiered gear, and trying to get Militarum and Master Crafted gear, since they generally have a higher overall GS.

[visual jacinth]

Welp, guess I'm boned then because all of mine are rolling at over 2k and I have close to 2k for my weekly. Shit

[verbal nest]

Will everything be reset after the game is released?

[fresh parcel]

Same here. I got MC gear in my Requisitorium, but I can't afford any of it.

Despite the fact that this gun is fucking amazing.

[verbal nest]

Will everything be reset after the game is released? pls guys

[cold zephyr]

does damage bypass toughness? was at 1hp max toughness and got one shot by a poxwalker, normally takes a good few hits from them to break toughness

[late orbit]

The plan is not to reset, but they will if there's an exploit or something

[verbal vine]

I've noticed there's a significant increase in difficulty going from level 2 to 3, what's the key to staying alive?

[feral gust]

faaaaaa. server-error

[fresh parcel]

Check the fucking pins in General Chat. They have that shit plastered all over the place, don't know how you haven't seen it.

[sour depot]

They said they dont plan to but shit may happen that will Force them to do it

[slow fog]

melee bypasses toughness. I don't think 100% of it slips through, but a bit does

[fresh parcel]

Melee always does 1 damage regardless of your toughness stat. If it pierced your toughness, you take the difference in damage.

[wide swift]

the jump here is damage. If your melee weapon can't oneshot poxwalkers, go down a difficulty until you get a better melee weapon.

[slow fog]

ehh I dunno about that. The force sword cant one shot poxwalkers and its arguably the best melee weapon for psykers

[verbal nest]

So will it reset?

[cold zephyr]

You are asking a question in reply to the answer for your question

[clear sun]

What is this insignia you get by reaching lvl 30?
Can't find it anywhere.

[fresh parcel]

It goes next to your portrait frame.

[verbal nest]

because I don't understand

[slow fog]

There is no confirmation that they will reset it. They've said they don't want to but they will if they need to, also that the likelihood of a reset will decrease as time goes on

@clear sun if you mean the inquistor rosette, its a weapon accessory. Go into your weapon appearance and there's a second tab, you can equip it there

[wide swift]

"We don't know yet, but probably not"

[clear sun]

I can't find it there, though.

[verbal nest]

so thx ♥

[west marsh]

click on your weapon, goto appearance, up at the top are two icons, one is the trinket icon, click that

[visual jacinth]

Basically it was always a chance that they would reset it. So if you are worried you're wasting your time then just wait a week.

[cold zephyr]

There won't be unless some game breaking progression exploit comes out I'd imagine, or massive overhauls to progression

[misty bear]

Honestly I wouldn't even care if the reset deleted all my gear and money, I just don't want to have to relevel my character

[slow fog]

Much like Sum41, I am in too deep my dudes

[fresh parcel]

Here's hoping WeMod doesn't release a stupid set of exploits before release, then.

[warm coral]

Did they increase the difficulty a bit?
I find the level 3 and 4 missions way tougher than yesterday

[slow fog]

Ahh I think they reduced the difficulty actually haha. Level 4 should be a bit more chill

[shadow cosmos]

I just got my first chain axe and thunderhammer. In the first games using them against the chainsword im just not seeing the reason to switch. The hammer feels like a wet noodle. And the chain axe melts elites, but just cant do anything into hordes

[fresh parcel]

The average level of your party influences the difficulty of your mission.

[visual jacinth]

Woah that's the first time i heard of that

[warm coral]

Ah so... Ok then this explains a lot.
So the higher level, the tougher missions?

[shadow cosmos]

Anyone wanna try to explain the appeal of either of these?

[slow fog]

Really? First time I've heard this

[fresh parcel]

Yes. Generally, being a higher level means the AI generator gets more AI to work with to use against you.

Which is why if you place Malice with all 30s, you'll see a metric fuckton of specials.

[wide swift]

I mean, its exactly what you said. Chainaxe vs Chainsword is exactly like Axe vs Sword at lower levels. Sword for hordes, axe for elites.

[burnt pendant]

Well, you need to have peril. And also I think use a weapon that can't normally reload.

[slow fog]

You need to have brain burst or a force weapon equipped, a chainsword or a lasgun won't work

[shadow cosmos]

I guess I just dont feel bad into hordes with the sword due to the rev special.

[twilit socket]

Tfw you one shot a reaper for Nothing but the Abyss with a thunder hammer, get 80 hp. Run into a horde with a tac axe, get 110 hp. Think you have to cleave your way to 200 hp.

[burnt pendant]

One reason I use the force blade even with a staff: Allows me to intersperse a quick emergence vent while still having block.

[slow fossil]

the quelling with the force blade is slower than with a staff right?

[slow fog]

Yes. Well actually it may depend. Unsure if force swords can get a quelling speed stat

[warm coral]

Doesnt it depend on the quelling speed? Saw such stat on staff and sword

[burnt pendant]

So, basically, if I play with higher levels I will lag more? Because my pc is strained to the limit already.

[bold saffron]

Okay I can Vibe with Plasma Guns

[maiden whale]

is this a good hammer

[burnt pendant]

Yes, force weapons have those stats. But standard, no stats, it should be the same speed. Though I believe staves move faster while doing it

[hallow cave]

Is this any good

[slow fog]

I'm not confident that this is the case, I've never heard of this before

[west marsh]

no, bars too low

[bleak maple]

should i get legendary devils claw sword?or wait for a legendary weapon? lvl 30 vet

[arctic plover]

anyone have any details or news on when disruption will be back?

[west marsh]

if you got it as a reward though...might as well use it, but i wouldn't buy it with contract tokens

[hallow cave]

Ah rip run n gun sounded sweet

[sour depot]

Same feeling man. Hammer great buffed attack but normal and heavy are slower and weaker than evisca... Are is just better combat axe do trash horde clear. Evi is just Jack of all trades and thats what i want

[west marsh]

@hallow cave did you get it as a reward?

[hallow cave]

Random mystery aq

[little stream]

Axe is fine against hordes if you know how to push, evis doesn’t even guarantee a kill with heavy attacks at high difficulty

[bleak maple]

should i get legendary devils claw sword?or wait for a legendary weapon? lvl 30 vet

[burnt pendant]

That's the amount of stats that weapon can have with those traits.

[west marsh]

oh, well 250 tokens isn't bad, might as well use it

[slow fog]

Yeah axe really relies on push stab to be effective on hordes

[hallow cave]

I wish I could wield a pistol and melee at the same time already lol

[bold saffron]

These are the best guns In my arsenel

[burnt pendant]

It's interesting how this system can actually incentivise using a lower rarity weapon while leveling, as it would have better raw stats.

[uncut verge]

Knife and Stubby

[hallow cave]

Have yet to come across that

[fresh parcel]

Except for the fact that gearscore is always the king stat. A weapon with less damage stat at a higher gearscore will still do more damage.

[sour depot]

His heavy is quick enough u can use it to kill single trash mobs so i don't fully agree

[lapis raven]

doesnt gearscore not work that way anymore

[little stream]

if you're not using the evis heavy then there's no point in using it over the chain axe unless you just get confused by the saw animation lock. though i'm not really sure what you're saying

[uncut verge]

nope, gear score is the points distributed

[burnt pendant]

The ranking means points rolled on the weapon (the 'bars'), but it should not anymore reflect a "power level" like in VT.
Trains also cost ranking, and traits come with 5 levels. So high level traits weaken the other stats on the weapon.

[lapis raven]

yeah thought so; it's much better and consistent than the silly gearscore stuff vt had ngl

[uncut verge]

So a White with 300 gear score is a better base weapon for crafting than a 300 blue

[fresh parcel]

Huh. That is a better system.

[sturdy robin]

Can someone explain what a flash mission is? Apparently i havent done one yet, never seen it, and i need to complete one to get the sharpshooters helmet

[crimson stag]

Ive absolutely dealt more damage with lower power level weapons than higher. Easily testible in meatgrinder. A lot of it can depend on what perks you roll as well

[maiden whale]

pretty sure if we're gonna use thunder hammers i need to be uninterruptable

[slow fog]

I'm very curious how crafting is going to shake out

[little stream]

chain axe is just more damage and 1 taps all trash on lights while the evis does not do that, it just has way more stagger on heavys for horde control plus cleave

[sour depot]

That's what im saying. Evi's light is weak but u almost never use it do its not a problem

[fresh parcel]

Oh, they also haven't patched the Elite Damage bug yet.

[little stream]

yeah but i was talking about the heavys. by the time you bring out a evis heavy, you might kill 1 cleave another to half meanwhile with chainaxe i've already killed 5-6 with light spam. evis wins on stagger and control but that can be compensated with block push and dodges.

[slow fog]

Haha every time I go to general chat it's just full of people arguing and ad hominem

[burnt pendant]

The linked las pistol above seems to have a +2 and a +3 trait. Though the question is, are those useful traits on the weapon, and are they worth the point cost the player. Not sure firing from behind is that great, f.Ex.
I believe this also means a high rarity weapon will never have full bars on the majority of its stats. Not sure if a white weapon can, or if high rarity weapons get a discount on traits.

[maiden whale]

Trying to understand if that +20% dmg against unarmoured will work against bosses. So, nurgle spawn and plague ogryn? Are they armoured?

[wide swift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2pn4t/enemy_breed_armour_types_and_locational_damage/
TLDR: Its complicated.

[maiden whale]

Furthermore, if its a good lvl30 hammer?

[slow fog]

I dont think so. Unarmoured is an armour type. Bosses have unyielding armour type i believe

[fresh parcel]

No, because bosses are technically 'Unyielding', so Unarmored is specifically for grunt killing.

[stuck ridge]

Though, are Weak Spots considered Unarmored?

[cerulean pelican]

is there a way to see crit rate? Im using the dagger as a zealot. Do Weakpoint hits count as crits?

[west notch]

hi everyone : are quests and marks character dependent?

ie = can i farm marks on a second character for first one?

[fathom kite]

Is the disruption missions live?

[wide swift]

#gameplay-help message

[analog salmon]

Anyone know where the pox burster weakspot is?

[wide swift]

No, weakpoint hits and crits are two different things. Crits are effectively random.

[misty bear]

You mean the weeklies? Those are per character, and the currency is locked to your character. So enjoy grinding 4x as much as anyone else if you don't just main 1 character only

[wide swift]

Or reroll weird ones into ones that you can just organically get by playing

[maiden whale]

I'm trying to suss a high damage single hit zealot build against bosses. Obviously the Thammer, but what feats would you use to maximise dmg coupled with my chastise?

[frozen bloom]

is there any list that explains the dmg types and symbols? game does a really poor job explaining what does what

[dawn cypress]

is the disruption mission spawning yet? I've got the repair done but im missing the last mission type

[slow fog]

Psykhanium is the place to be for learning about armour types

[soft wing]

what exactly does Impact and Uninterruptable do? (in regards to the preacher Punishment feat)

[slow fog]

Oh yeah that stuff is basically unexplained

[misty bear]

lmao, none of the stuff in the game is explained

[frozen bloom]

psykhanium doesn't say anything? you can just smash enemies and have to figure everything out yourself

[slow fog]

I would assume impact is melee stopping power?

[frozen bloom]

theres 1 dude with helmet instantly dying from shotgun and the other dude barely gets a scratch with helmet

[slow fog]

Psykhanium says the armour type youre hitting

[sour depot]

Ok i get what u are saying. Let me try to explain how i see this. I group melee threats into 3 groups: horde, elites, low groups/single trash mobs. First two groups are more important to cover do that's why i see evi as best option.
Hordes:
1 Evi - heavy-> push attack is great def and offence
2 hammer heavy-> slow but still great
3 deffenitly weakest
Elites
1axe no question best DPS
2 evi/hammer still good with specials attack
Single mobs
1 again Axe jest light attack DPS
2 evi is still good with it
3 hammer slowest again making him less optimal

That's why i like evi being Jack of all trades

[cerulean crown]

The shop has gone from two items, to one item, to now just zero items 😭

[orchid cove]

How can i sprint and kill a enemy with a meeleattack for my atone ?

[slow fog]

If you mean the zealot one, its your F ability charge, not sprint

[little stream]

evis is fine and easy to use which is why a lot of people use it. but you're claiming the chain axe is lacking only because you don't know how to use it. i don't even use it for specials, i use it for hordes. bolter is for specials. i kill hordes faster than the guy with the evis because it doesn't take me multiple attacks or a heavy to get a kill at higher difficulties, and i know how to move well enough i don't need the stagger.

[sour depot]

Ogryn mains complained that shop Has more options than they can count do devs fixed it😂

[shadow cosmos]

By evi, do you just mean chainsword?

[little stream]

chainaxe is just about how fast you can click on peoples heads and how well you know how to use pushblock and dodge.

[slow fog]

Higher than ogryn can count? So 4?

[last cosmos]

Hello Devs, please fix the issue where enemies can shoot me behind cover when i am ducking down

[sour depot]

eviscerator not 1h one

[azure cove]

Time to play the game of "how many games do I crash/DC tonight to get the credit for a mere 3 scriptures"

[orchid cove]

i tried it 100 times but still dont get it :/

[shadow cosmos]

Im lvl 18 and still never saw a evi

[fresh void]

Did you ever figure this out? A friend is getting it

[karmic dragon]

Worth it? Ive been waiting for an Eviscerator to pop up

[slow fog]

OK so I got this before I hit level 5. My recommendations are
Talk with your team - you can't one shot it, so ask them to help you damage it, but not kill it. A psyker can brain burst it and it wont die.
Use the combat axe, you need to be able to deal a lot of damage in a single hit.
Hold LMB to charge a heavy melee, THEN hit your ult

[cold zephyr]

Is there anything in particular that makes it more likely to receive loot from missions? Or just stupidly rare?

[orchid cove]

i have 2 hit a special one? or a normal mob

[sour depot]

Thats means Emperor finds your devotion lacking. But luck man

[slow fossil]

Just did 14 minutes of 6 charge with the psyker on malice and got no penance https://i.imgur.com/gJMzOOw.png

[cobalt knoll]

Is this good?

[dawn stratus]

Penance is lying, you need heresy

[slow fossil]

really? Fuck sake

[dawn stratus]

Not sure if bugged or they didn't change text, but yes

[bleak maple]

any settings to reduce muzzle flash?

[slow fog]

IDK you mean there. If you're shooting for the kill a Mutant while charging, use a regular combat axe and a regular charged special. The one where you hold the axe above your head

@slow fossil the difficulty is listed wrong, you have to do difficulty 4+, not 3+

[west notch]

what does "ignore enemy hit mass" mean?

[sour depot]

More cleave, more enemies hit

[west notch]

lol ok thansk a lot

a bit redundant with above skill then ^^

[slow fog]

I would think it would be more like, if you hit an ogryn, that's where your hit stops, ignoring hit mass means it would keep going. That's a guess though

[sour depot]

Yes, that's what i meant

[west notch]

oh taht's actually useful vs bosses then

if boss are alone, they are easy, if they are surrounded then knife is better.

a bit iffy tho to be honest. sounds like a pass ^^

[nova cipher]

What does soul blaze do?

[slow fog]

Sets people on fire. Its a dot

[rare shadow]

are hammers any good?

[karmic dragon]

Pretty good, back to back sweeps for the power attack and the special attack is strong against elites, specials, etc

[uncut verge]

Great for grim secondary missions

[old locust]

okaay, how good is THIS gun

[bold bronze]

Anyone know what "Rending" is? Found a Power Sword with that effect in the blue slot.

[old locust]

should i buy it

[slow fog]

I believe rending is an armour debuff

The gun looks quite good

[karmic dragon]

ok but not worth that much, wait until u can get a Mastercraft, that perk ive seen roll up to 17.5% and i assume maxes at 20%

[bold bronze]

No-those points will be better to save until you hit max item power.

[old locust]

so basically keep waiting until i can get a master crafted bolter..

[slow fog]

Item power is weird though. I've done 0 missions since hitting level 30, but I've seen 475 items show up at the fancy lad shop

[old locust]

that might be never lol

[karmic dragon]

I just got this, was hoping for an Eviscerator but this is the highest power Ive seen in my store and rolls arent bad

[misty bear]

Their weird system does create the odd situation where your grey power level 300 item will do more damage per hit than your orange level 300 item

[bold bronze]

Some people claim its level based, but I think its like VT2's system, where it takes the highest you've bought and plays around that number.

[karmic dragon]

Toughness on melee is very good

[old locust]

wait why the hell do you get 3 masterwork options, i only got one

[karmic dragon]

Luck, some rolls are 1 or 2 this just happened to have 3

[slow fog]

Looks pretty good, the small traits are kind of eh, but the big traits looks real nice. I imagine most weapons will get a balance pass at some point, Thammer included

[old locust]

Also does the normal shop NEVER have purple/gold items for sale?

[bold bronze]

I hope once we get to max item power it starts rolling nothing but max item power on everything...I hated rolling 297 orange items all the time in VT2.

[karmic dragon]

Idk, been playing since day 1 and still haven't seen anything above blue in the regular shop

[uncut verge]

It's got the best perk for the gun, and solid stat distribution. It's solid as it is and will be excellent base to upgrade with crafting release on launch day

I would probably reroll that second trait on it though eventually

[blissful python]

Do I pull the trigger and swap to the knife gang on vet?

[old locust]

so i should buy it and upgrade it later?

[bold bronze]

I don't think we know what the crafting system will be like....it might just be upgrading/swapping quality (gray/green/blue etc) stuff and not affect the stat distribution at all. So saving a low item power item might not mean anything once you hit max item power.

[uncut verge]

No, I do believe the stats are fixed when the weapon is first rolled. But traits/perks/and tier upgrading all appear to be in the system

[noble imp]

gotta love yet another shop where i dont get the single item that i want

[slow fog]

By the by, I know everyone is thirsting for the eviscirator, but with the way the zealots talents work, it seems like a very fast weapon would be quite strong. Is anyone out here stanning for a knife/sabre build?

[bold bronze]

Thats what I mean...it would mean that saving a low item power weapon would mean nothing once you find something with higher item power.

[uncut verge]

knife bleed build is apparently (brokenly) strong at the moment

[old locust]

also, are flash missions still not available?

[little stream]

c h a i n a z

[uncut verge]

traits and perks are a chunk of the power rating.

a 300 white is better for upgrading than a 300 blue for example

[tender holly]

Good for horde clearing with this perk? 👀

[slow fog]

ok yeah with the flat damage increase on one of their features, plus the attack speed bonus, having a low damage fast hitting weapon should benefit more than a slow weapon

[ivory root]

Is there a cap on rerolling contracts? I can't reroll this ranged contract and I don't feel like getting 500 ranged kills as a zealot

[normal tendon]

It counts teammate kills I believe just so you know

[slow fog]

Just take a flamer, ez peezi

[uncut verge]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[old locust]

flamer doesnt count as ranged

[bold bronze]

I think the problem is the increasing cost to change contracts that is the limiting factor....gets expensive as hell real quick

[ivory root]

I'm at 10k already but I have more and still can't reroll, the contract is ass only gives 100 coins so I want smth better but can't for whatever reason

[weak tulip]

All contract missions are teamwork shared, so it doesn't matter who does the killing abominations enemies and picking up books

[ivory root]

That still doesn't answer the question if there's a limit on rerolls and if I can reroll more than a certain amount or this is just a bug

[bold bronze]

Nevermind then, didn't know it might be limited. Didn't bother pissing away 5k because I'm constantly broke as hell testing some of these shop weapons.

[normal tendon]

It’s a bug right now for some at least I believe

[ivory root]

If they only had the perfectly fine loot system from VT2 and not this RNG Korean MMO RNG bs

[bold bronze]

Oh please...VT2's loot system was rage inducing too. Its just 'slightly better' than this one.

[sour depot]

Better than paid lootboxes

[tender holly]

I really can't tell if the Evisc or the Hammer performs better

[weak tulip]

Btw don't spend your contract money on the 200 random crates

[ivory root]

How lol? It was way better, guaranteed loot every game, you could craft whatever weapon you want and using materials get the stats/perks you wanted on them.

[normal tendon]

We don’t even know what this loot system is ffs

Games not out, we don’t even have crafting yet.

[bold bronze]

Also, if this game actually locks you to only receiving/seeing max item power from drops/shops, then I will instantly claim it as being superior to VT2, once you hit endgame.

[bold saffron]

ngl

[little stream]

crafting isn't in the game yet because it's a beta so your statement is basically irrelevant. lootboxes were dogshit and you just tediously deconstructed 99% of their contents.

[sly zealot]

Has anyone had any success with the Zealot "Heal to full health with feat" penance yet?

[normal tendon]

Like I don’t love the shop system but depending on how crafting works it could easily be superior to Vermintide

[bold saffron]

I feel Plasma is the Best suicide weapon to use too be useful in sacrificing yourself to a Horde lol

[ivory root]

Yet here you don't even get guaranteed loot and can be stuck with an ass weapon for hours considering the shop only resets once ever hour. Hope there will be crafting and the shop gets replaced by loot post mission.

[weak tulip]

Meanwhile the psyker penance asking you to oof yourself and kill 3 elites in the process

[little stream]

i rather spend 3 missions getting the money to buy what i want than do 3 missions to get 1/5 of the basis to craft a new item.

[bold bronze]

I think the biggest complaint we can currently have about this game is that the item power fluctuation is way too high in the shop...I've got item power 400, but I can see as low as 320 or something like that...

[ivory root]

And how do you know you get what you want when the shop is completely random?

[little stream]

because it has what i want in it. guess im just lucky

[burnt pendant]

How anyone could look back to VT2s launch loot system and say that was great is beyond me.

Anyways. Finally got to see a chain sword in the shop, but it's on Psyker, where I usually use Force blades. I hope they'll introduce another one with a better strike pattern. How do those weapon types stack up against each other?`
Also, around which level can I expect possibly seeing a Flamethrower staff?

[ivory root]

Exactly, it's pure RNG. I've been stuck with weapons that are terrible for hours no luck for me.

[little stream]

lootboxes are also pure RNG. you're just as likely to get nothing after 2 missions in VT as you are waiting for the shop to reset after an hour.

[bold bronze]

I think what they think is "great" is that once you've put in a few thousand hours, you no longer need to worry about materials, so you can craft freely...but getting to those thousand hours and insanely rare Red drops...is agonizing.

[ivory root]

Still you get 3 guaranteed items, at higher difficulties always a certain rarity. Here a single blue item can cost you more than you get in 2-4 missions

[little stream]

farming for reds is the only endgame in VT and it sucked.

[little stream]

a certain rarity, except 1/3 of them will probably be below 300 power and the rest will be unusable. until you get reds you just craft what you want anyway, and we don't have crafting yet.

[hearty citrus]

should I be queueing for the highest difficulty I can do even if the group I get matched with doesnt end up completing?

[slow fog]

What do you mean? Didn't you like getting your 13th red trinket before you got a single red for a particular class?

[little stream]

[spice dagger]

Nah, if you want to level do sedition, best xp per hour

[bold bronze]

Or only getting a red weapon that you absolutely hate?

Repeater Pistol. Repeater Pistol. Repeater Pistol. Falchion-Finally!

[little stream]

once chaos wastes came out that's all i did because i was also a book hater. i hated books and collecting them. glad they're gone and i can just get loot of a rarity without them.

[hearty citrus]

huh?

[uncut verge]

fast and easy to run through. Very small XP gains on higher difficulty

Though Fewer Hordes modifier on difficulty 2 can be run as fast and gets a chunk more xp

[slow fog]

tfw 3 swiftbows, 0 longbows

[bold bronze]

Some people can do sedition very quickly but malice very slowly...but its meh. If you play normal speeds then higher difficulties are probably better.

[slow fog]

?
You get like 200 more xp going from 1 to 2 and like 1000 more xp going 2-3. Three seems the best for xp

[weak tulip]

I play malice with my friends cuz sedition got too easy

[little stream]

playing a sedition is a good way to get bored. get a chain axe and go fast in any difficulty

[slow fog]

Yeah difficulty 3 is getting too easy for me now as well, but difficulty 4 was such a jump from 3 haha

[last sky]

Still waiting for one to drop

[burnt pendant]

We really need to wait until we see what crafting will be like in Darktide before we can make any conclusions about equipment.
In VT2, Power Level meant things like damage, and rarity just allowed for modifiers and traits. Upgrading was straight forward. But in Darktide, we don't have that system anymore. Item Rating just means points that the system can randomly spend on stats and traits.
So if one would reroll a trait on a weapon, would that mean it's always the same trait level?
Or would upgrading the rarity of a weapon worsen its stats?
Or maybe upgrading rarity always comes with a small rating increase.
Should we save a weapon with good stat bars, or one with our favourite trait, or with the highest possible level of traits? We really can't know.
Same for judging item progression.

[fathom kite]

Does the flashlight count as a weapon's secondary action?

[weak tulip]

Some friends of mine had a hard time on difficulty 1. I told them that they'll have an easier time on 2 if they play with ransoms, considering that anyone who played vermintide likely skips difficulty 1

[weak tulip]

Pretty sure that's the special, the secondary is aiming

[fathom kite]

Thanks

[ivory root]

My single biggest concern still is the fact that you get blasted through cohersion shield

[bold bronze]

I think we also still don't know if higher qualities points actually go into the properties...I think it would be a pretty lame system if it did, since it would make upgrading weapons to higher tiers actually terrible.

I'm imagining its 2 separate pools, one pool goes to basic weapon stats, one pool goes to properties...but we will see once the crafting system comes out.

[ivory root]

I just pray they have it on release and not add it as an update in the future because it's a "live service" 💀

[pure marsh]

Yeah it kinda sucks it feels like i play sharp shooter with 250 thoughness and i fall easily because i get hit through it

[ivory root]

That ain't even bad bro, I'm Zealot on 2hp to get full buffs and get tapped through the shield

[old locust]

excuse me but this is a christian heretic slaying discord, pls mind the language

[hollow tinsel]

can anyone confirm if mind over matter is completable???? Please let me know if we can complete all 7 mission types??

[bold bronze]

Ranged damage only damages the shield, but melee almost always does a slight percentage through the shield.

[torpid grotto]

Can anyone confirm that you can reset your accuracy by disconnecting?

[torpid ruin]

XD

[burnt pendant]

Well, I am at least certain that having traits at all drops stat bars, as I've seen enough weapons of identical type and similar powerlevel be notably worse on higher rarity. Though it is of course possible that that was just a powerful trait, and every higher rarity comes with a hidden rating bonus. Then again, nobody knows what exactly those bars show.

I sadly doubt I'll be able to play diff 4 any time soon. 😞 Computer's just not up for it.
Anyways. About that Flamethrower staff. Anyone knows what level that becomes available?

[weak tulip]

1 mission type is missing since day 1 so unless you played it on day one you can't complete that yet

[ivory root]

That's what I meant, wasn't like that in closed feels really weird what's the point of the shield if you still get hit through it

[little stream]

you take proportional damage to how much toughness you have remaining in melee

[pure marsh]

Like i can invest into toughness but it dosesnt work well when most if the hp i take is from somebody bonking my nogin

[dapper fulcrum]

its why i remove all my curio toughness and now i play only with % health + corrupt resist
i die so much less

[little stream]

would still make you take less health damage

[burnt pendant]

I think the very point is to not play like VT2, where zealot tried to get rid of his hitpoints ASAP. Where was the risk for that reward? Though that chip damage should not actually kill - I believe it's enough that most specials could off you with a single hit.

[bold bronze]

+Stamina is definitely the way to go....it feels so good to be able to push/sprint so much longer because of it.

[little stream]

full toughness and low health will still get you one shot by a crusher yeah

[ivory root]

I mean the Zealot here is pretty much more or less a copy of Saltzpyre's VT2 one

[bold bronze]

I've got 2 +2 staminas and 1 +1 wound...and its a great mix. (only blues so far)

[weak tulip]

I still don't know what the zealot is supposed to do better than other classes ( I haven't tried it, but I've found ogryns to be better at horde slaying and psykers to be better at elite slaying with bb and force sword)

[little stream]

everything

[ivory root]

This lol

[slow fog]

Zealot is a melee brawler. They can throw themselves into melee, outlast everything but the Ogryn and kill most things in melee. They swing faster, hit harder and have survivability

[little stream]

bolter and chain axe i'm pretty much set to solve any situation and quickly which matters at high difficulty

[ivory root]

Haven't gotten the Chainaxe, better than the eviscerator?

[slow fog]

What you specifically do will depend on your loadout.

Im low level so I use the combat axe and I am a special hunter mostly, but also do linebreaking with a shotgun

[bold bronze]

Its the 'human' version of the Ogryn, or the 'melee' version of the Veteran. Its supposed to be a jack of all trades.

[weak tulip]

I've seen ogryns slay hordes way faster, but it may be skill issue (my opinion is only formed from watching my team play those classes, I'm a psyker)

[pure marsh]

Melee brawler with strong ranged options the power hammer and evicirator hits like a truck and so does the bolter

[half prairie]

Anyone know the best way to get the 50 stunned kills in less than 10 seconds?

[icy hawk]

flamer probably

[pure marsh]

So in particular dealing with specialist as melee better than any other class and crownd control with flamer

[little stream]

people don't like it, but to each their own. i like evis and it's stagger is very helpful with hordes, but its not as guaranteed kill and relies on heavy attacks, so it's slower going getting through a horde imo. chain axe is light attack spam, clicking heads, and is 1 hit kills. its light 1 is like a chainsword special which can be jarring because it locks you to your target very briefly, but i've gotten used to it. if you're good with push blocks and dodging i think it's better, just way more damage output and speed.

[slow fog]

I would imagine gather a big group onto a bridge (use push blocks to stall them, shoot with flamer for a second or two, grenade, continue shooting with flamer.
maybe two grenades to be safe

[weak tulip]

Psyker force sword can beat up elites pretty quickly

[ivory root]

Nice, nice. I need me a bigger Evicerator size tho, way too short visually. I need this thing

[burnt pendant]

Sadly, there's apparently no force sword (that I know of) against hordes. Light attack spam gets tiring.

[pure marsh]

Tbh psyker is a glass cannon type deal and force swords are single target

[slow fog]

The force sword is good for pushing, thats about the extent of its speciality against hordes. Once you get to level 30, the soul blaze talent F will kill any mooks in front of you

[inland imp]

Should I buy this shield? https://i.imgur.com/PEiBTQ7.jpeg

[weak tulip]

Which psyker staff would yall recommend? I'm level 26-7

[little stream]

as a zealot if i see a psyker isnt using the lightning staff i'm immediately disapppointed and will hesitate when they get jumped by a dog

[ivory root]

True the CC on that thing is just so much better than anything else

[slow fog]

Void staff is my pick, lightning is the other one people like

[slow fog]

I will not accept this voidstrike slander

[weak tulip]

I'm a fan of the lighting one cuz it looks cool (cool factor is a stat that goes beyond any other)

[little stream]

then hope it kills the dog

[slow fog]

VS is better for dogs in certain situations anyway

[weak tulip]

I use the force sword on mutants and dogs I'm unhinged

[pure marsh]

I dont like crushers as sharp shooter

[little stream]

obviously joking use whatever you like it's just very helpful to have a lightning psyker

[frozen bloom]

how many meters is coherency radius?

[half prairie]

question about the 50 stunned kills in 10 seconds - does it HAVE to be MY stun grenade or can it be any zealot on the team's stun grenade?

[slow fog]

If the dog is in front of you, lightning. If the dog is on your friend while a horde is between you and them, VS is the way to go

[swift schooner]

is there a bug on load screens?

[slow fog]

The way its written I would assume any stun. No idea though

[weak tulip]

I don't recall but you can figure it out with 1 friend by walking away from each other. Teammates will have a shield icon when in coherency, put a marker on your teammate friend after you don't see that shield and that's the max you can go

[frozen bloom]

i have no teammate fren

[bold bronze]

Don't they show the radius in the tutorial? Then you could figure it out form there?

[weak tulip]

I don't recall, ik I've tested it once with my friends and I think my ogryn buddy has a perk for extra coherency range

[frozen bloom]

yes 50%

[weak tulip]

For that penance you still need to be close, not super close but still pretty close. Impossible with randoms and watch out for mutants

[slow fog]

Just btw, people are usually cool to help you with penances if it isn't going to be an active detriment to the mission

[north wolf]

Honestly, I don't see the appeal of the surge staff. The damage is quite low, the peril buildup is very high, the cast time is long, the range is bad, the threshold as to when another attack makes you explode is SUPER low, (reducing your effective peril treshhold by almost 20%!!) and the fact that it puts you on a lot of peril, makes it harder to pop heads when a special shows up.
The only pros I can think of is "unlimited ammo" and "some amount of CC".
But I feel like in most cases you are better served with a nice heavy laspistol.
I might use the staff if it caused significantly less peril, but as it is right now, I feel gimped every time I use it.

[slow fog]

(voidstrike is better)

flees before lightning bois crucify me

[runic cave]

what level does boltgun unlock for vet?

[jagged bane]

emp gift for psyker ...

[north wolf]

I haven't tested void. But surge seems really underwhelming compared to a gun. Yeah stun, nice, but in the time you stun stuff, you could have headpopped it. and small enemies? You swordfight them.

[slow fog]

Void fuggin rules. It is basically a piercing rocket launcher. Very good damage, very generous weakpoint hitbox, staggers 90% of the time, even when using minimal charge, I think unlimited pen, low peril cost

[patent sapphire]

is that the chain lightning thing? coming from a non psyker player perspective it feels hugely beneficial to have one

[slow fog]

Only thing isn't good for is killing the tougher specials, but thats what BB/FS is for

[icy hawk]

I'm currently trying the 100% aim penance, and i'm trying to figure out, shooting a shield shouldn't be counted as a missed hit right?

[slow fog]

I believe you get a blue hit for a shield hit, so it should still count. Haven't done the penance though, so I could be wrong

[icy hawk]

makes sense

[left lion]

level 14 was when I saw my first boltgun

[north wolf]

The only other staff I had was trauma force, and eeeh, that was kinda meh too. Guess I'll wait to unlock void.

[west marsh]

i hold onto guns just incase i don't feel like vomiting warp on my psyker 😛
bought this because why not?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419951398286000139/1045137959353061376/image.png

[slow fog]

Trauma blows. Flamethrower is OK, surprisingly it is mostly good against armour. Lightning and VS are generally agreed to be the meta at the moment

[wary oyster]

how long does it take the shop to refresh?

[patent sapphire]

im only doing malice so far but if i load in and see a psyker stunning things effectively i’m like 99% sure the mission will be a success

[slow fog]

on the hour. mark shop once a day

[weary sapphire]

What is critical weakspot damage vs just weak spot damage?

[stoic heath]

I think its when you hit a weakspot with a crit vs not

anyway, would any V2 vets be willing to team up with me and help me figure out how to not die horribly on diffciluty 3 plus?

[normal tendon]

Have you tried getting good?

[stoic heath]

thats literaly what im trying to do here, im looking for coaching

[normal tendon]

I’m joking, what level and class are you?

[stoic heath]

vet, level 16 I belive, but ive had really shit loot rolls in the armory

[normal tendon]

I would get to level 18 and get a power sword and Bolter

And then try. Maybe level 20 for the perk options too. After that just get a lfg here and play with them.

[stoic heath]

lfg?

[normal tendon]

#vox-lfg-nasa

[tough prism]

Is there any way to tell if an area has dregs or scabs?

[civic nebula]

Anyone know what Hit Mass Bonus is?

[restive tulip]

It seems pretty random. It was like this in Vermintide 2 as well. Midway through missions it'll even sometimes transition from one enemy type to the other. You just have to pray

[rustic arrow]

My fellow Psykers, are you having issues with the Purgatus staff causing crashes?

[slow fog]

I haven't, but I have heard that its a thing

[edgy frigate]

are there 7 mission types in rotation yet?

[north wolf]

Btw, is it just me, or is "Wrack and Ruin". kinda underwhelming? Mostly because I feel like the "soulblaze" is super weak. It seems to do about half a healthbar of HP on the weakest enemies which is fine, but only about 1/6 on stronger ones (not specials, I don't expect it to kill specials). On top of that 3 meters is a very small radius. I might feel better if it was a huge AoE, but as it is right now, I feel like that talent row is very meh.

[rustic arrow]

unfortunate but glad it isn't just me. Just unlocked it, can't even use it.

[slow fog]

Yeah soul blaze talents other than the level 30 one doesn't seem very good

[rancid tendon]

will my cpu support this game?

[north wolf]

Even on the 30 one, I would still put Kinetic Barrage, purely because it doesn't eat the stacks.

[slow fog]

The level 30 one kind of rules honestly. With how big the range on it is, it will basically delete an entire horde and do serious damage to any specials other than the chunkiest of bois

Like, with 6 stacks on difficulty 4 I think it will put a mauler to half HP, 4 stacks is enough to wipe mooks

Plus I believe it has a 10% chance per kill to give you another stack, so if you use it on a horde, you'll most likely get at least a few stacks back anyway

[bold bronze]

Playing the intro a second time as an Ogryn was kinda disappointing...like, I get that the las pistol is probably threatening, but in comparison to pointing it at a human, it feels kinda funny that she thinks it'd do the same thing. Good thing its skippable.

[little stream]

lasguns kill ogryn too, what

[slow fog]

I haven't used it in a game yet, so the only thing I'm unsure on is how it interacts with cover. I assume it will catch anything in sight, including just a cheeky shoulder, in which case it is genuinely amazing - you could clear an entire bridge/hallway with one F

[sullen portal]

Just wodnering if anyone's found a workaround for not being able to refresh weekly contracts yet, I know a few people have managed to just randomly be able to here and there but nothing consistent. I'm lvl 30, 200k coins etc, just can't get rid of this secondary objectives on a map that isn't even out

[little stream]

she might have to double tap but a gun that can "melt off a human arm" with one shot is perfectly valid for killing an ogryn

[bold bronze]

I get that its an actual threat 'in the game world', but it just doesn't "look" the same considering the massive size of the Ogryn and the tiny little pistol.

[slow fog]

"ow. why shine torch in eye?"

[north wolf]

15 second cooldown on gaining another stack.

[slow fog]

Ah RIP

[ancient imp]

anyone been able to get the "complete a mission on malice without taking melee damage" penance yet? feels like i always get clapped in the back by 1 mob that somehow made his way behind me and im running camo expert

[flint stone]

Anyone else ever get out of memory this is my second time having it happen.

[tranquil grove]

The worst part about trying to do the 0 ammo 100% accuracy penance is realizing you were the only reason teams weren't getting overwhelmed by elites.

[little stream]

hardware problem not a game problem

well game problem in regards to its optimization and system requirements but in the end its about your hardware

[stray vine]

Is there no healer class or a support class?

[flint stone]

How can it be hardware unless this game is just that hard to run.

[remote gust]

No.

[little stream]

it is your hardware, you can blame the game but your hardware is unable to run the game without force stopping it due to more or less reaching its limits

[north wolf]

The healer class is "staying together". People close to each other heal each other.

[flint stone]

Ogryn .... healing wise cant be stunned out of heals .... suport wise you do hard ranged dmg to help ... and you clear waves ... pluss you control flow of most engagments

[alpine flicker]

Nah tbh many cases of good PCs failing to run, crashing or ass performance

[stray vine]

Oh well. I liked to play Doc or medic in other games like this

[little stream]

out of memory is a different issue and related to his hardware. optimization could make the problem better, but it is, in the end, his hardware. it could never improve even with optimization

[flint stone]

Sad i do not have these issues in star citizen which i hear is a tough game to run i think the beta just needs more work hopefully it gets it before launch cause right now its the only game that just refuses to stay launched / refuses to stay connected to lobby / has wild lag making dodging rough. even the hub is laggy / also the all settings on low but game still runs not good is so sad.

[slow fog]

Ogryn is the only dedicated "support" class. All the others are DPS/specialist killers

[little stream]

star citizen is definitely easier to run but also poorly optimized

[brazen shoal]

is there a way to guarantee dreg or scab spawns?

[slow fog]

play game

[brazen shoal]

how do I get missions that specifically spawn dreg or scab enemies

[little stream]

you dont

[remote gust]

Yeah if you play the game at all they usually spawn. Probably higher difficulty means more dregs

[brazen shoal]

thx

[patent sapphire]

when do master crafted things get added to the mark shop? level 30?

[rare cliff]

Is Heresy difficulty still bugged to always have the endless horde modifier?

[heavy stone]

What's considered the highest boss DPS option for Veterans? Bolter?

[slow fog]

Rerolling psyker

[graceful atlas]

Probably bolter or a braced autogun.

Or just use the axe and keep hammering in overheads.

[bold bronze]

Probably depends on time period...in a short enough time period, plasma probably wins, then medium time period bolter probably wins, and a long enough time period it'd be a debate of one of the autoguns.

[heavy stone]

Sounds good, thanks all 📝

[slow fog]

yw

[heavy stone]

I'll look into more braced autogun options in the shop, had good success with them before

[graceful atlas]

Braced autoguns are amazing.

[bold bronze]

Also depends on boss I guess...like, the chaos blob thing has a real big weakspot, so bolter can nail it through a whole mag...while the plague ogryn is kinda hard to headshot through a whole mag.

[vocal ore]

anyone figured out a solid way to get the full heal zealot penance?

[old blade]

did they mean heresy with this? my friend did it and and didnt get the achivement

[slow fog]

Plogryn is pretty difficult to headshot in general

[peak sluice]

has to be heresy, it's worded incorrectly iirc.

[old blade]

game sux

[slow fog]

game gud

[meager tapir]

I GOT IT!

[plucky river]

Tips for psyker?

[wraith haven]

what is brittleness?

[hollow scaffold]

Reroll and ogryn 😛

[tranquil grove]

mfers pick up grims and can't even shoot poxbursters

[plucky river]

Reroll?