gameplay-help

[idle goblet]

the dont use ranged one

[rancid egret]

as a zealot, whats a good thing to pair with a regular chainsword?

[bold saffron]

You just gotta go first let a ogryn or something slap the horde and Agro on them

I only spam em at armored hordes

[sturdy sandal]

ah yes, I also got that one finished unknowingly while playing flamer once xD

[idle goblet]

boltgun, pairs with everything and is my fav ranged weapon lol

but if you dont have that yet i like laspistol, flamer, autopistol

real answer is whatever youre comfy with tho yeah

[tepid skiff]

whatever you're comfortable with. shotgun, revolver, flamer, lasgun, all good options.

[rancid egret]

hmmm oki, thanks ♥ im gonna chill and see if the shop has anything interesting and if not im gonna swap to my autopistol :D

[untold phoenix]

Play whatever weapons you like best, there is no meta and everything is pretty good atm

[plain nimbus]

oh i know how to do it. but this is when we're go to extraction. i'm at the back and got slap at the last second. normally i took the camouflage feats so things are pretty easy. WHEN I'M NOT FORCED TO MOVE.

i swear some of the pox walker has other sentience control them other than the game ai

[sturdy sandal]

my god I found out that knife and small axes are AMAZING on zealot, with their increased crit chance. 75% dmg reduction on crit + 1.25s cooldown reduction on crit + ability heals 20% toughness allies, makes it a whole different way to play zealot...sorta. So good

[untold phoenix]

Dev trolling

[plain nimbus]

yes they are. sadly knives don't scale that well with difficulty and the axes don't have cleave to deal with hordes.

[outer stream]

love my knife, just dodging around hordes and going stabbitystab

[sturdy sandal]

I got ignore hit mass on my axe, it actually is pretty good on the axe, solves the cleave problem

[untold phoenix]

The tactical axe is garbo though don't be fooled, it's the regular axe you want

[cold wedge]

any clue on how to get shocking stuff on zealot easy?

[slender onyx]

Really? I find knife invaluable on Heresy/Damnation. The damage is respectable, but mainly the defensive capabilities are outstanding

[sturdy sandal]

talking about the smol axes, the fast bois, the only good combat axe is the orange one, that has decent amount of cleave on its push attack

oh wait it IS the smol axes ur talking about :/

[untold phoenix]

yup, I couldn't kill anything in less than three hits with that thing while regular axes could oneshot most human sized enemies

[rotund briar]

FYI to Ogryn buddies out there: Grenade Gauntlet lights, heavy and special attacks all count as Heavy attacks (i.e. apply bleed - need to test whether they restore toughness too)

[rancid egret]

Is the regular chainsword good for crowds?

[plain nimbus]

tactical axes are good at their jobs which is fast armor piercing attacks. very useful on assassination missions for breaking the force field.

[sturdy sandal]

the big axes you mean? those barely have any cleave so it's a lil rough, but I suppose if you got "ignore hit mass on weak point kill" trait, it could be good?

[idle goblet]

not as good as eviscerator but itll do the job, just focus heavy attacks when possible (thats how i use it anyway)

[rancid egret]

heard that thanks ♥

[slender onyx]

Oh ye I mean human knife, Ogryn knife I don't find too great, at least where I am with Ogryn

[sturdy sandal]

the blue combat axe has pretty decent push attack that can cleave a little bit tho

[plain nimbus]

decent enough to save your life. just don't expect wiping the hordes in half. that's the power sword job

[untold phoenix]

I'm talking about the starting axe, there's a smaller one called Tactical which sucks, I don't know if there's a larger one besides the chainaxe

[lofty mauve]

Afaik not only your own kills count, so pop stun grenades and let the team eviscerate the horde

[plain nimbus]

here are images of all types of normal axes. the only combat axe that is useful is the far right. the other 2 sucks.

i haven't use all the tactical axe yet so couldn't really tell

[sturdy sandal]

I think the starting axe is kinda garbo xD, it has virtually 0 cleave and it's only good at single target, even then, maulers have carapace helmet so you don't want to headshot them :/

@plain nimbus I used the Achilys combat axe, it suffers the same no cleave thing on the Rashad one. I thought the Antax axe is pretty good tho

[untold phoenix]

Tactical is super bad don't waste your time, I don't know the specifics on the combat ones though

[sturdy sandal]

thing is with the tactical axes, they got insane crit, which lets you play with some of the zealot talents that require crit.

[plain nimbus]

Achilys combat axe has good attack angles. while the Antax only have a downward strike so it limit your option.

[sturdy sandal]

you mean on charge attack right? been a while since I last played combat axes so I cant quite remember

[civic kindle]

just noticed I never got the first Circle of Trust penance/portrait, went straight to the second one; which level was I supposed to get it?

[plain nimbus]

yep. Achlys axe first charge attack is a swipe then follow with regular downward strike loop. so you can actually hit with different angles. very useful for taking down maulers.

[dense sedge]

Just read this and checked: Yes.

[sturdy sandal]

yeah I can imagine that, but if you kinda know where to hit on maulers, you can still avoid hitting their head with the downward strike. I think if the charge attack still only able to hit 1 enemy, it really doesn't matter too much regarding attack angle.

[harsh ivy]

Anyone know if the preacher block and push staggers or does it have a certin mechanic i swear i heard someone say its very important on the preach to block and push is it a sword he had woth a perk or

[idle goblet]

every melee weapon has block and push, and its one of the core mechanics for melee combat. i dont think its more important for preacher than any other class though

[jaunty python]

is the coherency penance for ogryn broken? did a mission where everybody stayed in coherency radius and didnt give me the reward multiple times and like the objective says it has to be malice difficulty or higher and i played on malice

[sturdy sandal]

block and push is important on every class tho

[harsh ivy]

I swear ive seen a mechanic on it or weather it was his weapon sword perk made them stagger hmm

[jaunty lance]

No one?

[idle goblet]

its possible, but pushing will always stagger enemies. maybe its the devils claw sword? that has a counterattack blocking special

[harsh ivy]

Might of been it

[sturdy sandal]

I mean, there is a talent for preacher that increases "impact" when you hit 3 enemies with cleave, and it stacks to 3 times. So maybe that's what you're talking about. Impact improves stagger on hit I believe

[harsh ivy]

That act sounds more like it yeah i think he said attack attack attach block push

[sturdy sandal]

dude I'm so tempted :L

[plain nimbus]

has anyone figured out what they buff on the autoguns? i swear fatsharks need to make more detailed patch notes

[outer stream]

im jealous D:

[sturdy sandal]

they did, increased their damage a bunch, you should check their forum post, Hedge provided numbers.

[plain nimbus]

ya got any links?

[sturdy sandal]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/1-0-7-update-expanded-patch-notes-balance-tweaks/58673

[plain nimbus]

ah "numbers"

[sturdy sandal]

check the comments xD, someone said stuff about that as well so Hedge proivided actual numbers down there

[idle goblet]

i hope they eventually add numbers on weapons lol, the bars are driving me nuts

[deep sapphire]

idk i think the chainaxe is horrible after using it

[idle goblet]

its definitely weird, its fun to use but im not sure i could make it work at higher levels

[plain nimbus]

it's kinda sad that early game weapon doesn't have a place in late games. i know there's a power level and all but making everyone use bolters and plasma to be remotely useful is kinda...

[sturdy sandal]

yknow, maybe it's like an unpopular opinion but I sorta like the no-number bars xD, I mean...I don't want the actualy stats you know, it feels like if I did get those stats and numbers, I'd go min-max like crazy, agonize over every little number. not sure I like that xD

[jaunty lance]

Can someone explain please?

[idle goblet]

sorry i dont know the answer, i havent really used axes at all

[sturdy sandal]

honestly, what even is the relentless one xD

[jaunty lance]

Can check pinned image.

[plain nimbus]

well at least separate the stats into more details. i don't want to buy a weapon just to know if that damage bar means high damage slow fire rate or a swarm of angry bees.

[bold saffron]

So curious question here am I wrong to think the set up of all four classes is a DPS Tank (Zelot) a DMG Tank (Ogryn) and 2 Squshies in the Veteran and Psyker?

[sturdy sandal]

ah, that's not what you're asking about. Idk, the combat axes are all pretyt single target, no cleave at all, except for the blue Antax one with its decent cleave on the push attack

[jaunty lance]

The axe has relentless on it. That's why I am a bit confused since it says cleave in the description for it.

[sturdy sandal]

relentless is a sorta...dmg multiplier on certain armor/health type. it's good on armored enemies I believe

[cobalt garnet]

Veteran throws out some insane dps when using the class ability and hitting a weakspot. Example using a bolter with increased crit damage and the class ability you can easily mow blast away 1/2 to 3/4 of a plague ogryns health in a single mag.

[sturdy sandal]

@jaunty lance oh wait it's not, well I gotta know the attack patterns and stuff on the axe to know :(

[jaunty lance]

Sec. I'll show image.

[plain nimbus]

well it does said damage/stagger. so probably axe has stagger and not damage

[bold saffron]

Ooh Ik by DPS Tank I mean As long as Zelot is close to friends but massacring shit they are practically unkillable while a Ogryn gets damage debuffs and a litteral wall it can put up to tank fuck tons of over all damage

[jaunty lance]

Yeah I saw that too. I am just trying to get clarification since I don't know at all.

[wind orbit]

inspect the weapon to show the actual attack patterns

[jaunty lance]

Oh. Forgot about inspect. Lemme check.

[blissful flower]

Light/Heavy/Alt-fire
3-arrow: Knockback/stagger attack, range/cleave depends on weapon
Sword swing: Cleaving attack
Impact/explosion icon: Single target, overhead/stab, often has higher armor piercing
Sword point: Fast Crit single target.

[V] Inspect the actual weapon for the combo strings

[bold saffron]

Psykers I’d say are assassin/mage while the Vereran is the utility class as it’s a over all all rounder specializing in deletion of multiple tough foes

[sturdy sandal]

ah so I suppose Relentless means it can be either good cleave or good stagger.

[cobalt garnet]

I suppose I would divide them into 2 groups, the zealot and the ogryn are they melee frontliners with slightly different focuses each e.g. zealot seems to have more AP capability and a greater damage output while ogryn can just keep stuff locked down for an eternity. Then the veteran and the pysker are the special and elite hunting shooty shooty classes. Though they overlap a bit more i think and what their exact role is depends on the weapon type.

[bold saffron]

Anyways I do find powersword + Bolter = profit with the veteran

[idle goblet]

sheesh, id probably pick a different weapon unless you only want single target headshots

[shrewd laurel]

I mean, veteran with power sword can also shred everything in melee

[plain nimbus]

tbf there aren't really a "tank" class in darktide. an ogryn is as easily to go down as a veteran. in fact veteran are very tanky against range damage thanks to the highest toughness of the 4. you shouldn't categorized them like a normal RPG.

[blissful flower]

In this example:
Light is 3 single target strikes
Heavy is Stagger swing/cleave -> 2 single targets

[bold saffron]

Yeah tbh I was generalizing them

[jaunty lance]

Ah alright. How do I know if it's stagger or cleave? From stats? Like Cleave Targets?

[sturdy sandal]

yeah the first attack on the heavy is pretty much just a sideway single target hit with high stagger I believe

@jaunty lance if the weapon doesn't have the "Cleave targets" bar, I suppose you can assume it's not good at cleave? maybe?

[idle goblet]

stagger is relentless 3 arrow icon, sweep is vanguard sword swing icon

[bold saffron]

Anyways anyone down for a Group activity after I get off work in a few hours

[idle goblet]

first and 4th light would be solid cleave, for example

[blissful flower]

Cleave -> Staggering slash (minor damage) -> Staggering slash (minor damage) -> Cleave

[cobalt garnet]

Thats very true but i'm basing it off the fact that none of the feats are really geared towards melee combat and other classes do that stuff better. Plus the vet should be looking out for the disablers and keeping them team from getting snatched.

Although saying that the camo feat for the vet makes it laughable to just stand still in a melee with a team mate smaking away at things while none of the enemis come for you

[jaunty lance]

Ah alright. Relentless description confused me.

[wind orbit]

ur saying relentless is always a stagger attack? TIL

[blissful flower]

3-Way has some cleave potential, but it's primarily stagger/crowd control

[jaunty lance]

Alrighty. So should I maybe switch to the sword above, as a Zealot?

I am not doing T3 missions at the moment. And axe worked decent for T1/T2.

[idle goblet]

its a good option! i like chainswords more if you have access to that personally, or the og devils claw sword, but this one is pretty solid

[blissful flower]

Can't speak to the Heavy Sword personally, ultimately find weapons you enjoy. I like the mk1 "Devil's Claw" Catacan sword for Hordes

[idle goblet]

once you level up all the way, eviscerator and thunder hammer are best imo for both single and multi target

[jaunty lance]

Yeah of course. Just checking what might be a little better in general. Not necessarily best.

[idle goblet]

evis comes around lv20 and th comes around lv25

[dense temple]

Wow I didnt know you werent supposed to hit the head of the marauder, it does so little damage

[idle goblet]

til then my recs are mk1 devils claw, then upgrade to regular chainsword, then to evis

[plain nimbus]

at the end of the day every class can be self reliant. an ogryn can both deal with hordes and pick out specials. it's just that the class give you feats to do one thing while you rely on the specific weapon to do the other.

[iron ledge]

You can with the axe

[blissful flower]

In the end, each weapon has different strengths and weaknesses, the axes are mostly single target focused and rely on Pushing/Blocking to crowd control hordes

[modest geode]

evis is too good. best I have is a blue one at 399 but its got rampage and shreds everything

[idle goblet]

and theres no better feeling in this game than sawing mfs down

[covert zephyr]

quick question. you can turn backstab sound on and off in the audio options. im in the meatgrinder trying to get the backstab noice to come up but i cant get it to work has anyone else gotten the backstab sound to work?

[signal cipher]

Finally unlocks the helmet, only to decide I like no helmet more, pain

[plain nimbus]

hot takes... well not really but early stick the the knives. those are super useful for all situation. and they are FAST.

[modest geode]

something ulta satisfying about chopping a reaper in half after ulting and reving the evis

[sturdy sandal]

Do you guys know what "On hit" and "On multiple hits" mean? I got some traits that have those, but I feel like they don't work like how we think they work? I got a 175% cleave for 2s on multiple hits trait, but it only triggers when I get hit sometimes?

[idle goblet]

yeah theyre really good too, i just like to have more cleave since with my group i end up the one handling most hordes lol

[outer stream]

so i am stuck at level 8 with consistent crashes in every mission, so i have a question regarding an item i have in my inventory. i have a lucius helbore mk2 in my inventory, is it good? ive seen some people use it with the bayonet but since it's level 9 i cant use it yet.

atm i like the lasgun type you start out with most. plenty of ammo to just keep shooting

[plain nimbus]

i would assume 'On multiple hits' require you to cleave rather than single target hit

[hardy eagle]

is there a way to check what mission type i havnt compleated on malic cause im trying to do quest

[idle goblet]

multiple hit means any hit after the first one i think. i was testing with ogryn and im pretty sure it counted multiple times per swing for the restore toughness on multi heavy hit thing

[sturdy sandal]

which is strange bc I was using it in a horde, no icon popped up, only when I GET HIT by enemies, I see the 2s icon down below.

[plain nimbus]

nope. better start counting my guy.

[jaunty lance]

@blissful flower, Yeah. That's mostly what I have been doing. Block-pushing/hitting hehe. Thanks.

[hardy eagle]

but im pre sure ive done all types of missions on malic and there and only 5-6 mission typs out right now

[plain nimbus]

there are no icon for weapon traits. and i don't even think feat have icon either. the only one i can remember that has icon are the starting traits and auras

[idle goblet]

they added repair this patch, but they pulled one type after like day 1 of preorder beta

[hardy eagle]

yea i just did repiair mission on malic thats how i compleated the 1st part of the mission

[blissful flower]

If you didn't do the Hive Surface map day 1, then you can't do all of the mission types atm

(Map got pulled for causing issues, they're fixing it)

[hardy eagle]

what mission types are out right now?

[slim zinc]

all 7

[sturdy sandal]

just got the cowl of shame, too bad it makes you bald :(((

[idle goblet]

i think its disruption that doesnt exist atm

[blissful flower]

turns on hair trimmer
Shame

[hardy eagle]

can anyone tell me all the mission types out right now or is there a way to check?

[sturdy sandal]

[idle goblet]

repair, espionage, strike, assassination, investigation, raid are out i believe

[slim zinc]

assassination, strike, raid, repair, disruption, investigation, espionage

[sturdy sandal]

man I dont even remember what disruption was like

[idle goblet]

i just remember it was bright outside lmao

[plain nimbus]

disruption got removed until fixed

[bold bronze]

Escape->Penance->Missions-> there are achieves of each 'type' of mission.

[slim zinc]

you can check it in Penances menu, under missions

[jaunty lance]

Flamethrower is unlocked at 12?

[blissful flower]

Hive Surface map, was basically hit the levers as they appear and hold out during the finale

[sturdy sandal]

I did it and forgot how it went xD, I was too deep in package loss in order to really take things in...

honestly though...I hope they'll be able to fix this whole...constant package loss thing that I got...still have to use VPN in order to play, but so far, it's exactly like how it was for me during the cbt :(, still tonsa fun tho.

[plain nimbus]

i would beg otherwise considering i have first hand experience on getting hit by a rock before and i can confirm i do bleed

[bold bronze]

Now that you've successfully logged in a number of times, maybe try turning the vpn off again? See if things are better.

[blissful flower]

Eh, I think you have other things to worry about if a grenade smacks you in the face (and from a balance perspective, they're gaining like 8 stacks the moment after anyway)

[bold bronze]

Also, a rock hitting your face is a different type of bleed in comparison to shrapnel.

[sturdy sandal]

agh, I tried, internal error...well, it's not called that anymore, it's error codde 4008 now.

[idle goblet]

glue nails on the grenade and it wont be much different

[rare shadow]

holy FK da bolt gun is FUN!~!

its like gears of war all over again using the single shot gun

[hybrid raptor]

Is there anything I can do to "deactivate" joining an ongoing / already started match? The game in its current state feels unplayable with the amount of "low lvl" players in high lvl (heresy +) missions without being able to see their lvl

[sturdy sandal]

man, I want to do more heresy missions, but I just can't with the constant state of package loss I got going, you just shake around like crazy when meleeing and moving around, touching enemies feels like being ripped apart by daemons xD

[idle goblet]

no, but youll be able to do private matches before too much longer. not sure if itll be available on release or a couple weeks after but its coming

[sturdy sandal]

if this is what dedicated servers entails, I kinda want peer to peer back xD

[hybrid raptor]

I dont mind playing with randoms at all but like "this" its just not possible and you lose so much of your personal time

[azure lily]

did servers start to lag today?

[robust sequoia]

when you join an ongoing game you can check their levels by pressing esc and clicking on social

[hybrid raptor]

but then youre already in the lobby and wasted a lot of time because of the long loading screens and if you decide to leave you gotta waste another two loading screens

[fierce totem]

If you actually pick a mission rather than quickplay, most of the time it puts you in a new game lobby. If you want to pick and choose who you're in a group with, private games on release is going to be the only way most likely.

[rare shadow]

any vetran mains here, swapping from zealot-->vet whats a good melee weapon and what are good 3 notable weapon types that are fun and strong and what should i be doing, aiming for what, all enemies or only elites

[dawn leaf]

hey what is warp reaload for the psyker penitence

[hybrid raptor]

unfortunately I can say thats not true at all after just trying to play 8 missions (not quick play) and being in 7 ongoing matches

[idle goblet]

power sword, bolt gun, plasma gun

[robust sequoia]

plasma gun is not strong at all, it's weak

[idle goblet]

it IS fun though

[bitter summit]

is this penance bugged? I played on Malice Endless Horde and had max warp charges for more than 7 minutes and got nothing from it (timed it on phone)

[fierce totem]

Power Sword; Kantrael Lasgun (for sniping), Recon Lasgun (for literally everything except carapace armour), Boltgun (for everything except hordes).
Unsure if this holds up on Heresy+, though.

[dawn leaf]

i got 171 but impossible to get it

[bitter summit]

It has to be bugged then, or maybe it's only on heresy but the description is wrong

[dawn leaf]

possibly

[bitter summit]

Had max charges for like 7min28sec before I stopped trying

[dawn leaf]

me too

[sweet python]

Decent Ranged weapon for Zealot on Heresy ?

[fierce totem]

From what I could tell, Warp Battery requires Heresy+ (because like you found, it doesn't appear to register on Malice, so the tooltip is out of date)

[verbal vine]

I think most ppl will say boltgun, flamer is really fun tho

[sweet python]

Thanks

[summer mauve]

does anyone know if the shotgun is any good for the 100% accuracy penance

[hot falcon]

I have been doing every diff with a flamer, as long as you have teammates that can pick off snipers etc at range then a flamer is invaluable for clearing hordes instantly

[slim zinc]

any news on steam/Gpass crossplay ?

[manic moss]

From the patchnote :
Will crossplay and cross-save be available?
We see the value in cross-play and cross-save and fully intend to support cross-play shortly after launch. Cross-save is more complex to execute and still being investigated.

[slim zinc]

yeah I got that, I was wondering if there is maybe some insider info, to know if it will be there at/close to launch or couple of months later 🙂

[civic chasm]

flamer is a thing of beauty
not only a solid horde clear, but also staggers most enemies from my experience, which can help others take 'em out if you can get within 20 meters
otherwise, i've also greatly enjoyed the braced autogun for pinning ranged enemies and thinning hordes before confronting them in melee

[plain nimbus]

as far as the early game go these two are your best friends. the first one let you spam shots endlessly and the ammo pick up is super good. the second one is great if you have good aim and super deadly with headshots. later on shotguns are great and very efficient. eventually you will get bolters and plasma in the late game. plasma is amazing with special, even crusher will die in 2 head shots. as far as melee goes shovel and knives for early, then chain sword and ultimately power sword.

tbf if you play right you would never pull out your melee as a vet. only dire circumstance call my power sword.

[candid idol]

People recommend I use a GL on Ogryn if my team can't deal with armored enemies but this thing does NOTHING. I headshot them and let the explosive drop and pop, and it still does nothing to crushers for example

Theoretically based on what I assume Rending is (Lowering armor?) and the extra damage to carapace this thing should SLAP

[plain nimbus]

i don't think they talk about this one. from that i've seen the grenadier gauntlet is superior.

[candid idol]

Ohh... OHH. Alright. I'll try and get a good one

[rare shadow]

bolter not good late game? looks super fun

[topaz dawn]

were there disruption missions? I cant's seem to find them...

[plain nimbus]

bolters are great for late game. plasma require more finesse to use. while bolter just an all-rounder kind of weapon

[idle goblet]

removed bc it was causing issues for ppl. itll be back

[rare shadow]

are u a vet main? if so thanks

[gleaming topaz]

recon lasgun for grenade build and bayonet lasgun for sniper build are best for late game

[rare shadow]

whats a recon lasgun is that the superfast firing one?

[plain nimbus]

yes i've reach 30 on vet in 2 days lmao. who wouldn't love being a guardsman

[still grail]

how do i rank up weapons like in vermintide ?

[topaz dawn]

I need it for penances XD

[rare shadow]

dumb question but this is an odd im black but once i heard a black char with some kind of african accent how do i make that char weird question i know but i liked the way he sounded

[idle goblet]

yeah, it was only around for like 1 day. sucks

[fossil lodge]

anyone experiencing more stutters and lag spike today than ever

[candid idol]

Psyker, third voice I believe. c:

[plain nimbus]

recon lasgun is automatic lasgun. in my experience they are very ammo hungry for what they're worth. expecially the mark VIa. if you want to use them at least get the MK VII one. slower fire rate and higher damage per shot

[candid idol]

Is the shove bash the best move to spam on ogryn shield?

[sweet python]

Once i saw that psyker voice when creating a character i changed my entire character to suit it lol

[rare shadow]

same

[opal stone]

So not sure if this is the right place, but concerning the Ogryn

[plain nimbus]

i'm tempted to make another veterans just to speed run leveling her to 30 again lmao

just to see if i can put my experience in veterans to real use.

[opal stone]

The shield does not block charging npcs and is not used for your own charge. Please tell me that was an oversight and will be fixed.

[rigid wasp]

Is there a universal good build for Zealot?

[opal stone]

Also, Ogryn = Heavy Bolter = Warhammer 40k. The clearest I can make that. The guard and Inquisitors use them for that. The stubber cannot hit something standing in front of you, not sure if that is by design

[candid idol]

Stubber sucks

It clears crowds but can't hurt elites, just like ripper but even worse at ST unless its a plague ogryn or bonnie

[solemn locust]

Are there any ways to gain MelkBucks other than the weekly challenges?

[opal stone]

Yeah, this game wise I cannot seem to hit a non moving target in the same room. I got to shoot like 25 rounds to hit it.

[peak sluice]

B B M T M B / max hp curious / 2h weapon such as TH or Evi with cleave / Flamer or Bolter with TH and Bolter with Evi.
Quick and dirty solidly good Zealot build I've been using at Heresy, Heresy +horde, and Damnation

[rigid wasp]

Thank ye

[candid idol]

Buy his NFT

[solemn locust]

I refuse to fall prey to his glorious NFTussy, thank you very much.

[frigid ibex]

my friend keeps getting error code 2001 and 2002 and getting disconnected constantly

[rigid wasp]

Probably out of context for this channel but, have they released the patch that was supposed to be up yesterday? Need me Zealot helm, missing that 7 mission type penance

[plain nimbus]

hate to do this but... actually Ogryns aren't really allowed to use heavy bolter lorewise because of one thing: they are too dumb to handle it right. only like special bone 'ead ones and even they have to earn the recognition to even use it.

[queen moth]

whats a good map to do cliffhanger on?

[plain nimbus]

you wouldn't give a literally prisoner a power of demi god would you?

[candid idol]

You become a bone 'ead so I don't see why not

[peak sluice]

Sweats in thunderhammer

[candid idol]

Make it a rank 30 unlock or part of a bone 'ead actual class that makes teammates tankier instead of you or something

[plain nimbus]

i'm talking about really special bone 'ead ones. like freaking Nork Deddog level of special

[candid idol]

All Ogryns are special

[rose wedge]

@queen moth I did this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis

[jaunty python]

I need some advice for the ogryn friends will be friends pennance done several missions but it doesnt give me the reward or clear the pennance anyone onow if its bugged atm?

[sturdy sandal]

anyone knows what brittleness means?

[hoary oyster]

brittle reduces the armor of the enemy hit for your whole team

[rare shadow]

if u do im down to join lol

[jaunty python]

Is it due to im playing on lamice i onow it requires malice difficulty at minimum or above but is it only clearing at heresy difficultybor above?

[candid idol]

Are you sure you held the radius the ENTIRE mission?

[sturdy sandal]

I'm testing it in psykanium, hit enemies with melee, it does increase my gun's dmg on it, but the melee dmg is the same :/

actually, it reduces by 1-2 dmg after every hit

[normal tendon]

Make sure you're on Malice and you have to play it slow to make sure you keep the radius, if you lose it at all its reset. It requires slow play.

[sturdy sandal]

brittleness stacks reduce your melee dmg but increases ranged damage APPARENTLY!?

[hard prairie]

When do you get plasmaguns

[jaunty python]

I know i had a full team off ogryns and we all stayed near eachother

[copper sleet]

are repair missions fast?

[normal tendon]

I'm not sure, I was able to do it, but the range is lower than you think. It might have been a bug but its likely someone just broke off.

@copper sleet the only current one is one of the longer missions in the game currently

[jaunty python]

Yeah im sure we went slow nd steady

[copper sleet]

L, back to spamming assassinations and water

[vital oxide]

anyone able to give me some pointers on how to get the long bomb penance? I

[jaunty python]

Hm we had. The 50 percent increase to for the coherency and kept tes on the coherency emblem the whole kission through

[jaunty python]

Just hope to get it done once im home again

[normal tendon]

Bridges are your friend, practice in the meatgrinder beforehand to get a feel for the range and arc needed.

@jaunty python Good luck, I'm not sure. I would make sure you all have comms and just go again. Sounds like you did everything right.

[jaunty python]

Rhanks felt so cordinated to like we counted or drops down and followed one guy with the shield who was leading

[brittle nest]

best melee weapon for guardsman ?

[solemn locust]

Power Sword, probably.

[brittle nest]

which lv to unlock it ?

[solemn locust]

I want to say 18?

[slim zinc]

I think I got it a bit earlier via shop but around 18th

[jagged vigil]

Is there any use for Force sword on Psyker? Since I got Surge staff it outperforms all other options. Also while extremely effective Surge staff feels less fun than Trauma 'ragdoll hordes everywhere' staff.

[normal tendon]

Yes, to hit enemies with the pointy bit

[idle goblet]

it hits pretty hard and the animation looks cool

[mossy frost]

Force swords’ special does roughly the damage of a headpop to flak armor and below

[cobalt tartan]

It's got decent single target and the shove is pretty good at controlling crowds (though not as good at killing them as other weapons). Plus you get the high damage special like a chainsword.
I've been using one which lets me block ranged attacks and while it won't help against an actual heavy gunner, it's saved me a couple of times.

[keen merlin]

As ogryn so many early feats revolve around heavy attacks, but i hardly ever find myself using them... So situational. Am i ogryning wrong?

[bleak maple]

is there only 1 type of plasma gun or different versions? 90 ammo is too less man , do i need to play it with powersword as combo?

[rigid wasp]

Why does the regular shop say it resets in 13 hours? Wat

[toxic trail]

it seems like my game has long load times. I wondering if I can ask for help in here? :3

[oblique flower]

I have seen someone with the Veteran helmet already, that means he was able to do 7 mission types, what are they?

I've seen and done:

1. Assassination
2. Raid
3. Strike
4. Investigate
5. Repair

And curiously it shows I'm at 6/7
Which ones am I missing?
If it's also the secondary objectives (collect scriptures, grimoires) I've done them as well. 🤔

[idle goblet]

espionage, which is in rn, and they pulled the 7th after day 1 bc it wasnt working (disruption)

[rare torrent]

can anyone explain to me how to do 'Going out with a bang"

[oblique flower]

huh, never seen espionage

[rigid wasp]

Was disruption the desert mission?

[oblique flower]

unless it's the plant fake intel one

[idle goblet]

its that yeah

[limpid walrus]

Anyone wanna help a poor Psyker get Cliffhanger?

[fossil lodge]

is the achievement "up close and personal" even normally obtainable? (Complete mission without firing a shot as preacher)
I just did one game and it didn't register

[warped osprey]

Fellas, did "Cliffhanger" get harder once they changed how the Power Sword push works?
I'm at an excellent spot but I just cannae get it

[cedar ocean]

In my opinion cliffhanger is just badly designed, when all an ogryn has to do for their version is throw one grenade at a corrupted eye

[limpid walrus]

Yeah, Cliffhanger just sucks.

[cedar ocean]

all the psyker penances are just... eh. Tried it premades for hours, still couldn't get cliffhanger

[limpid walrus]

Only penance before i get helmet though

[warped osprey]

i didnt have any problems with any of them before cliffhanger

It's like, I use the F to push but it doesnt seem to affect all the enemies on the bridge i'm at

[cedar ocean]

My issue is something like ogryn you can do all of them just by playing the game. Psyker either forces you into strange circumstances or encourages bad play.

[limpid walrus]

Yeah, basically all of Psyker's penances are like that, except a couple of them.

[fossil lodge]

same also goes for all the zealot achievements

[cedar ocean]

You have to do cliffhanger to get any sort of helmet for psyker period whih is why it's dumb. Zealot is not all that great either, but psyker is just asinine

[rare shadow]

early game sucks for this game weapons are all boring

[dim blade]

Psyker achievements are nuts: Go bomb yourself in a group of elites. Try and hold a group of enemies next to a ledge and HOPE the stagger upgrades to a knockdown and actually shoves them off the ledge.

[gleaming topaz]

so why does the ogryn suck so bad ?

[rare shadow]

skill issue

[limpid walrus]

Not just bomb them, hope they also die from it.

[cedar ocean]

I've now become an ogryn main lol. Whoever handled that class just wants you to have fun. Ogryn: Throw a nade in a corrupted eye, charge another plague ogryn, charge other ogryns (level 30 talent makes this easier) and another to remain in coherency for the mission. In a premade and with extra radius you can do it.

[dim blade]

Yeah, most I got was 2; 3'd had enough HP to survive it; because for some reason it only does like 600 damage.

[cedar ocean]

charge 100 enemies and charge for a period of time

[limpid walrus]

Whoever made Psyker wants people to get into the mindset of Psyker.
That being a raving, paranoid schizophrenic.

[fossil lodge]

now try finding a sniper that won't get killed by your teammate before you throw a grenade at them

[worldly flame]

am i supposed to be able to kill walker with 1 hit of axe at difficulty 4?

[dim blade]

My only issues is you've got 3 options: Make a Premade, Play like a bad team mate, or load into countless solo things to hope you get it, quitting out and leaving if you don't.

[native stratus]

whoever made the guardsman wanted you to feel good looking through a scope then u see a horde of demons coming for yr soul

[bold saffron]

What’s a scope most of the guns I mained before my Bolter were iron sights

[idle goblet]

og lasgun has a dot sight at least

[warped osprey]

@limpid walrus I'm up for a strike team trying to grind this in Chasm perhaps?

[toxic trail]

anyone having problems loading darktide from a external hard drive?

[fossil lodge]

is it normal to find a purple weapon with no skill

[agile raven]

Does blocking ranged attacks help at all?

[agile raven]

I would test all the different axe hits in the meat grinder to see what works.

[keen merlin]

With a shield, yes

[limpid walrus]

Sure, gimme a minute and i'm down

[quick veldt]

I thought the kantreal and the burst auto gun were fine. Shotgun is fantastic and fun to use.

[sudden finch]

Agrippina is great fun too ^

[lapis raven]

auto guns are based af

[normal tendon]

It doesn’t, it’s extremely good at high levels for dealing with elites and hordes, creates space for the team to kill then, and the gauntlet lets it pretty easily snipe specials and elites when needed, as well as dump damage on bosses and enemy Ogryns.

[cursive torrent]

this isnt the whole story, really. the blue and green recon lasguns both use one ammo per shot, but the tan one there uses 2 ammo per shot. it shoots slower, but uses more ammo than any of them

[normal tendon]

The issue with Ogryns is really just that your team needs to not be shit too, you can’t really carry with them. But that goes for all classes to some extent.

[light flume]

Having issues using the Zealot's special skill. It seems to stop randomly and other times I can basically run like 100 yards. Is there anything subtle about the skill I might be missing?

[limpid walrus]

You still down for Cliffhanger?

[hazy wolf]

how get purple and yellow rarity stuff?

[finite vine]

I'm curious about that too actually

[warped osprey]

Aye just got back

Any other psykers looking to do Cliffhanger?

[plain nimbus]

while yes it use more ammo but the amount that it takes to kill whatever you want to kill is less than the other two. aka ammo efficiency. that couple with because of it using 2 round per shot, it actually has more mag capacity than other ones, leading to better ammo pick up. when you play as vets the thing you care for are ammo efficiency. that means good ammo pick up and better shot per kill ratio is very important

[limpid walrus]

I'll be in Strike Team 12

[viral sail]

you can lock onto a target while holding f, you'll run all the way to it when you do

[cursive torrent]

it using 2 rounds means it mags are half the size, though? the ones ive seen all have roughly the same magazine size between 80 and 100ish

[light flume]

Wow, really?! That changes a lot!

[finite vine]

Appreciate the answer

[viral sail]

within reason right, i don't know the exact distance but it's pretty far

[light flume]

That's fine I had no idea about this!

[loud summit]

Hey, has anyone figured out a decent way to do the 100 knockdowns with Ogryn? My assumption would be to hit 30 and take I believe the 2nd trait that makes you go twice as far with your rush

[cursive torrent]

you are right though. it gets more damage per ammo, making them more efficient. the blue ones have a notably higher actual DPS, though

[plain nimbus]

yes your 100 rounds mag is actually only 50 with that one compare to other two ,let's say, 80 rounds mag, but it also lead to you picking up more ammo per ammo pick up. and having high damage making it less painful to kill high armored special like mauler and such. overall DPS is not really what you're aiming for if you only get to use it for like 2 minutes and get boned the rest of the mission.

[oblique wharf]

Is there anytypes of disruption missions in the beta yet? Its the onlyone im missing

[proper merlin]

yay or nay?

[cursive torrent]

the ammo pickups are 20% of your total ammo. ive not noticed any different in the total ammo amounts between all the recon lasguns, myself. ive had blue ones with 95 rounds and brown ones with 81. they seem to be nearly the exact same.

and vice versa. my current blue one has 87 and my brown one has 94

im not convinced at all that the brown ones are getting you more ammo in any way other than that they burn through it more efficiently, making you use less in the first place

[plain nimbus]

keep in mind you're the shooter in the team. your job is to take out threats before they can do real harm to the party. the less it takes to do your job the more supply you can spare for your party. DPS in theory is the important but actually nothing really gonna stand against you more than a few seconds for you to consider about DPS. and if they do that means you have failed the job

[viral sail]

this looks great for zealot, crit bonus especially

[blissful coyote]

Are there any reasons not to use the Chainsword as the Psyker? Deals more damage, no peril...

[proper merlin]

i forgot to ask but does power = damage

[viral sail]

if it's the same as vermintide, power = damage + cleave + stagger + and probably other stuff
although +50% power gives less damage than +50% damage

[plain nimbus]

there are variation in ammo stats. but there's a range that they scale from. the one that use 2 per shot get higher ammo count than the other 2 in general, leading to more ammo pick up.

[proper merlin]

I see. i guess ill grab it after my menu stops being empty or i should just restart my game

[plain nimbus]

use less + get more = more efficient -> more stuff for your party.

[slender onyx]

Hey, does anyone use the melee on the Ogryn's Grenade Gauntlets melee much? From testing, it seems like the lights are pretty bad (severe damage droppoff after first target), but the heavies seem alright?

[dense moat]

yea a bit

[normal tendon]

The alt is all I use consistently, although it is nice in a pinch to apply bleed to a lot of enemies.

@dense moat the lights do too although it’s probably a bug

[dense moat]

the heavies proc the bleed feat

[slender onyx]

Ah right, I heard the lights apply bleed, that'd help get around the damage falloff

[normal tendon]

You need the perk for it but they did as of yesterday

[visual jacinth]

The ammo stat buffs both your magazine size (for most auto weapons) and your total amount of ammo you can carry. Great for higher end missions

[light flume]

Hey, do you know if doing this turns off collision hitbox for the character? Or will the charge towards the target stop the moment you contact any enemy?

[slender onyx]

I think you go through enemies, but not terrain. But I could be misremembering

[light flume]

Yeah, would expect to still collide on terrain

[plain nimbus]

i think the one of the flaw of this game is the alt action is either the main gimmick or totally useless. so either you have to use it or don't at all. other than the shotgun where there are situations calls for it ( tho it barely make any notable difference) all weapons are like that.

[digital bay]

Wondering something; currently I have 6/7 missions completed for my Veteran for the helmet cosmetic. I've only counted 6 mission types so far, but there are a fair few peeps I've ran into who have the helmet... am I missing something? 🤔

[native stratus]

anyone else getting backed error atm ?

[rare shadow]

what level is bolter unlock?

[slender onyx]

Yeah, I love my knife but, that jab is basically worthless lol. And so many guns just have a weak push, when swapping to melee is instant and allows you to do the same thing (while blocking!)

[tired crown]

Were you able to play the dust mission on the first day?

[smoky sparrow]

Hello! What's with the servers? I can not enter. Throws out with the inscription: Server error!

[plain nimbus]

for which class? in general it's like around 18- 25

[native stratus]

maybe down ?

[rare shadow]

only reason im making vetran is cus of the bolter dont judge me

[cobalt garnet]

Servers are down check general chat its talked about there

[modern axle]

Are we able to complete all the mission types yet does anybody know?

[silver bramble]

Raid: Collect valuable materials for the Imperium.
Assassination: Take down a high-priority target.
Strike: Strike at enemy forces to stop a dangerous attack on Tertium’s residents.
Espionage: Mess with enemy intelligence to feed them false information.
Repair: Presumably repairing a key piece of technology keeping Tertium alive.
Disruption: Disrupt heretic plans to prevent their plans from coming to fruition.
Investigation: Use a servo-skull to scan key locations for intel.

[tired crown]

If you were able to play the outdoor mission on the first day of the beta then yes

[plain nimbus]

zealot get bolters too. vet just get more efficient at it lmao

[tepid minnow]

Zealot gets the boltgun too

[vagrant palm]

hello everyoune I am trying to collect evrything in darktide for now and I have a question how to earn this bage near his profile? Thanks in advance!

[slender onyx]

Servers down atm, no disclosed reason yet but prob will be soon

@modern axle As of today all missions have been available, but not all are in rotation atm. No disruption or... investigation? Espionage? At least one of those is out of rotation atm

[slim zinc]

exactly that

[rare shadow]

do certain classes get certain weapons or something?

[plain nimbus]

also who wouldn't like to cosplay as a space marine?

[silver bramble]

Complete 50 Missions as a psyker

[vagrant palm]

thanks

[normal tendon]

Do 50 missions as a Psyker

[modern axle]

Could of sworn I played all of them on the first day but I must of missed something, thanks

[smoky sparrow]

Remind me what it said. I don't speak English. I communicate with you through google translator

[slim zinc]

yeah Zets get it too, question is: Plasma or Flamer 😄

[digital bay]

It doesn't ring a bell

[vagrant palm]

thank you

[rare shadow]

wait guys im new to this lore how come we arnt facing these monsters? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HljUo8Jjk or are we these big space marines or something or is this a diff war/game?

[plain nimbus]

all class has their exclusive weapon. some weapons are universal.

[digital bay]

So what I'd have left right now is Disruption, but I haven't seen that yet

[tired crown]

They removed it from the rotation due to it being buggy for some, so you may have to wait until more maps are released that have the mission type you're missing.

[normal tendon]

Because we’re fighting cultists not Tyranids. There’s multiple enemies in 40k.

[rare shadow]

are tyranids stronger than our character?

[plain nimbus]

uh... cuz lorewise it would be a massacre if we're facing tyranids. that and yeah we're fighting another kind of enemy

[tired crown]

Yeah we'd be screwed if it were Tyranids.

[slender onyx]

I could prob beat up a Tyranid. Just have to kick really hard

[rare shadow]

why? cant normal humans fight tyranids? our guns and axes wont do damage or something?

[elfin hill]

i was wondering if theres some people willing to help me get cliffhanger penance done

[normal tendon]

One small gaunt? No. But there’s never just one. And there’s some big boahs too.

[modern axle]

No, Tyranids would absolutely demolish regular humans, would have to be the Gene Stealer Cults

[smoky sparrow]

Can anyone tell me why the servers are not working? I do not know English, I am writing to you through google translator!

[tired crown]

Our lasgun and chain axes wouldn't do much against a carnifex

[quick veldt]

Certain tyranids carve through space marines like butter.

[rare torrent]

keep getting backend error

[rare shadow]

wow

[brittle nest]

Can anyone play now

[visual jacinth]

I wonder if the server comes back up if my daily shop weapons will re roll >:)

[silver bramble]

They're down at the moment

[tired crown]

#🚨service-updates message they just posted in another channel

[rare shadow]

how come our characters arnt strong like those space marines with the two hearts and immortality/

[brittle nest]

Ok I see a server problem then

[plain nimbus]

to put in perspective. space marines are considered demi-god compared to normal human (including you rejects). Tyranids genestealers can kill space marine solo and they outnumber the space marine 30 to 1 in term of force. maybe even more.

[rare shadow]

oh wow are tyranids the monsters in those video i linked?

[toxic condor]

yes

[plain nimbus]

the lasgun you're using in this game is what we call "flashlight" in 40k

[silver bramble]

Space Marines are heavily genetically modified, the character we play are pretty much normal humans apart from the ogryn

[tepid minnow]

imagine , if you will, starship troopers
than add 500 other variations to the bugs
and greater volumes of enemies
then you're close to tyranids
oh, and some tyranids can pretty much peel open Terminator armor (also known as tactical Dreadnaught armor)

[rare shadow]

oh, and some tyranids can pretty much peel open Terminator armor (also known as tactical Dreadnaught armor)
THAT strong? wtf wow

[restive tulip]

how come they called space marine but are standing on ground

[spring saddle]

imagine, if you will, a game that lets you press esc to return to the game you were in after checking out the social tab

[light flume]

I would love to see Genestealer Cults or Orks as enemies later on.

[slender onyx]

Tbf our character's muscles are pretty big in this game, I feel like we could take on most things. Just give them the old one two

[brittle nest]

Tyranid is just like endless eater who can adapt extremely quickly operating as hive mind

[rare shadow]

cant we convert our chars into space marines and do the gene mods on them?

[silver bramble]

It has to be done at a young age otherwise they reject the implanted organs

[rare shadow]

its like making an adult into a spartan? adult into --> space marine can that work?

[tepid minnow]

nope, we're not 10-16yo initiates that were picked by any chapter

[slender onyx]

We could also convert our characters into academics and give them a proper education, but I'm not sure the game will cover either of those routes

[normal tendon]

[outer stream]

from what little i know about 40k lore children are amplified from a very young age through multiple surgeries implanting organs and the like to eventually become space marines

[brittle nest]

Possibly ending for this galaxy along with necron Egypt terminator who have kick ass technology

[rare shadow]

wow you have to be young thats cool, first time playing 40k universe here

[outer stream]

the channel of dr chris raynor has great videos on space marine creation the entire process with the description of the organs and their functions. etc

[digital bay]

I think it'd be awesome to see Nids in this game, though it'd definitely be a world-ending-no-matter-what kinda vibe 😅

[rare shadow]

but tbh i never see space marines die those big giant amped up ones, do they actually die a lot?

[dry herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935585117072662528/1044885664711319614/image.png is this a pretty good curio for veteran?

[plain nimbus]

here are the size chart. the 3rd one is the terminator. the far right is a scout marines, which is the closest to normal human but still generally bigger than average joe

[brittle nest]

the only thing that keep imperium running is plot armor , they seem have unlimited planet

[plain nimbus]

and i'm talking about 1.5 bigger.

[rare shadow]

do those guys have better gene modes than spatans from halo universe?

[digital bay]

It's pretty good, the damage resist is eh but 19% Toughness and a little combat ability regen is nice

[light flume]

What is +1 wound curio do exactly? Do you get an extra health bar with that?

[silver bramble]

Yup, extra health bar

[tepid minnow]

means you can be downed 1 more time without being captured

[light flume]

#40k-lore-chat would probably be a good place to visit at this point

[hybrid geyser]

Yes. Better for Heresy+ since you only have 2 instead of the standard 3, tbh

[rare shadow]

oh sorry i got off topic lol

[cursive torrent]

i mean he just killed one with a very similar chainsword that the zealot can use

[normal tendon]

That’s really nice

Only qualm is the mutant one is less useful but nothing bad.

[plain nimbus]

you can't really compare cross series like that but lore wise yes. a space marine has 2 hearts, 3 lungs, night visions, acid spit, etc.

[rare shadow]

also apparently the bolt gun got nerfed

[slender onyx]

a-acid spit? Why was that necessary lol

[zealous heart]

helps them digest cellulose. also emergency weapon if someones in your face

[silver bramble]

Say if theyre captured they can melt bars or cuffs

[tired crown]

Got a source? I need to know!!

[compact mortar]

As ogryn how do i kill defiler with the grenade in the eye? Its achivment and i dont even know how defiler looks

[slender onyx]

Damn, humanity really became forward thinkers in this universe huh

[rare shadow]

[zealous heart]

its the little demon robot guy that shows up at corruption

[spice sigil]

Its the eye that comes up when you purge corruption

[compact mortar]

Main eye or 3 spawns?

[plain nimbus]

well from personal experience it a lot more recoil and sways after shot.

[slender onyx]

Oop, loaded in for anyone waiting

[spice sigil]

Main eye, should only take 1 grenade

[compact mortar]

thx, hopegfully fans add game wiki

[rigid wasp]

Will there be more weapons added?

[normal tendon]

It works on Heresy even I know, not sure for Damnation. Just aim for center mass, might not get it first time.

@rigid wasp yes

[rigid wasp]

My understanding is that only maps will be added in on release

[spice sigil]

theres a couple weaps from trailers we dont have apparently

[faint rapids]

How much fps You have guys in the fights

[normal tendon]

We have several weapons we know of which aren’t in the game yet. Power maul for Ogryn for example.

[dense moat]

is this damage a bug or a legit weapon roll? 🤔

[dire ridge]

nerf gun

[cursive torrent]

rng be like

[modern axle]

hahahaha

[brittle marsh]

Are these two challenges currently unfinishable or am I just missing something?

[plain nimbus]

no this is the closest depiction of lasgun in 40k universe

[minor sluice]

I havent been able to finish them either might change on release

[rare torrent]

i finished cliffhanger quest than server went down now i logged in and i dont have cliffhanger reward

[dense moat]

I suspect there are some maps/environments we haven't seen yet that have different mobs - I have 2 lvl 30 characters and haven't finished those penances either

[restive tulip]

Lucius lasgun enjoyers, which Mk. pattern is your preferred?
(Mk. 1 average, Mk. 2 fastest, Mk. 3 heaviest)
I think Mk. 3 is just way too slow to justify fielding, and has an inferior bayonet slash compared to stabbing with the other types

[normal tendon]

Probably not in the game yet, or bugged

No, and everytime you ask they add 24 hours to it’s duration.

[slender onyx]

We're up to a month now. Gonna be odd having a beta notice on full release, but them's the rules

[worthy lotus]

[sweet python]

Have they turned off the beta message yet?
Have they turned off the beta message yet?
Have they turned off the beta message yet?

[tepid minnow]

Yes, No, Maybe? I don't know. Can you repeat the question?

[sweet python]

Nah i just like the beta so im trying to extend it like @slender onyx said

[normal tendon]

Skill issue

[sweet python]

Turn on motion blur to increase performance

[silver ridge]

Motion blur decreases my brain performance

[proper merlin]

looks pretty good should i nab it? (the tact axe from earlier got rotated out im sad)

[mossy frost]

What a coincidence, the devs could give two fucks about your immersion

You also implied that you would like to play the game, as though the watermark was preventing you from doing so

[gray roost]

so completed last mission necessary on server crash, you think itll solve itself or should i get on them forums

[strange wyvern]

psyker sufferers of the psykerdom. where and how did you complete the cliff push challenge/elite/monstrorum

[mossy frost]

Don’t the the door hit you then

[little stream]

If you’re paying any attention to the watermark during gameplay you’re a useless teammate anyway, just don’t play. Is the new mission type/map out?

[celest turtle]

Well shit

[gray roost]

eyy buds in bugs

[drifting hatch]

Same here

[celest turtle]

lmao
well time to wait 7 days for it

[rare horizon]

@paper coral

[normal tendon]

I would try again maybe? Might fix it.

[rare horizon]

Just ran another one, still doesn't give credit

[normal tendon]

Sadge you guys are gonna make them reset the progress aren’t you

[little atlas]

Damnation is interesting... Even with 6 Warp Charges you need 3 BBs to kill a CHARGER.

[normal tendon]

Well hopefully there’s a fix.

[covert thistle]

Is it best to use psyker abilities on higher tier enemies? I’m still new at trying to get better on using that class.

[honest crater]

Drip or drown

[little atlas]

Well, yeah. BB still does a lot of damage but you'll be focussing it more on ELITES and SPECIALS while helping out with Horde-Clears using your Staff / Melee Weapon

[quiet wharf]

I complete these but still did not get it looks in the "almost done" section.

[outer wedge]

how did u guys get 7 diff missions types alrdy, i only seen 6 with the new one now

[covert thistle]

I’ll keep it in mind, I only recently started to use psyker and I haven’t got the staff yet.

[tired crown]

There was one available on the first day but they removed it.

[little atlas]

The 7th, REPAIR, was released yesterday / early today.

[quick veldt]

Repair was today..

[junior oriole]

Do grimoires affect the team? Where can I see more info about them?

[tired crown]

Yeah, they add 25% corruption to everyone.

[junior oriole]

So do teams try not to pick them up? Worried about upsetting people to complete my weeklies

[tired crown]

I would say to just ask when the game starts, make sure there are no surprises. Some teams struggle to complete the mission without grimoires so adding in a 50% reduction to health just dooms you all.

[slim zinc]

nah, they can just play mission without them, if you run one with grims do grims

[normal tendon]

Just ask in chat

[little atlas]

PSA: OGRYNS are faster with carrying Cryonic Rods and other "carryable Objectives" than other Classes. Let the big man do what he does best

[slim zinc]

and of course you can always align on team/voice chat

[crimson dagger]

Big man is usually trying to be a sharpshooter in my games 😦

[junior oriole]

alright cheers both

[little atlas]

You mean mowing down a single sniper with the twin-linked stubber?

IS BIG GUN, IS GOOD.

[rigid wasp]

is it just me or are they faster while out of stamina and still running too?

[slim zinc]

nah, club him 😄

[tired crown]

I've seen some impressive shots with the grenade launcher

[little atlas]

I'd say so, yeah. Ogryns seem to maintain their momentum more than the lil ones

[slim zinc]

box throw or it does not count !!

[ripe wave]

https://i.imgur.com/dgl7Nol.jpeg do i restart my game, been sitting here for way longer than i normaly sit without queues

[broken galleon]

How does power level progress work in the shop? Is it tied to your level, or do you need to purchase items to 'unlock' new power levels? If you reach level 30 is there anything more you can do to increase the minimum power level?

[bold scaffold]

Hello do we know the max Power level of weapons ?

[idle goblet]

from what ive heard theres no clear guidance from fs or consensus from the community as to what dictates item levels

@bold scaffold people have been saying theyve gotten over 500 on some rolls, though i think 500 was the highest ive seen an actual image of

[bitter gust]

https://twitter.com/Snow_ba11/status/1595446258113576963
Can anyone confirm?

Snowba11 (@Snow_ba11)

@jifferey @MrCenturies Supposedly you can do it on another character, thus making it vastly easier to complete so you can avoid the ammo regen on elite kill veteran has to live with

Ogryn grenadier gauntlet for instance, should be pretty doable

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

[deep sapphire]

484 is the highest i've got so far

[worn leaf]

Is there a general guideline for difficulty? Like it’s made available to us based on our level, it obviously we aren’t prepared for a difficulty even if it’s unlocked. So is there like a gear level that’s generally advised or is it just a judgement of skill at a certain point?

[visual jacinth]

Was that a regular shop roll of the daily shop?

[deep sapphire]

no it was the special shop
i haven't seen the normal shop roll anything above 413 so far and i check every hour religiously

[idle goblet]

i dont have confirmation but im certain that this is either just factually incorrect, or will be patched out very soon

[deep sapphire]

and i have the 484 melee equipped

[honest ice]

which ogryn lvl 20 talent is most consistent

[visual jacinth]

Ive heard that leveling increases in to around 400 and then it starts to go off the average of your equipment level

[normal tendon]

I really like the bleed one, you can keep it up a lot with the bleed level 10 talent.

And the bleed final talent.

[elfin hill]

any advice for completing cliffhanger?

[true obsidian]

flamethrower on zealot worked as of last weekend, not sure if it was patched yesterday. Absolutely not intended, so very likely it got patched, just can't test

[idle goblet]

its been patched unfortunately

[true obsidian]

felt like something that would be very easy to patch (most other challenges are limited to specific archetypes, this penance for whatever reason didn't have that check originally), so not surprising at all

[elfin hill]

can someone explain why all my currency is gone and my shop dont work

[fast epoch]

Ehm, no gear to purchase, 0 gold, 0 coins... am I alone with that problem?

[fast epoch]

oh, not alone 😄

[true obsidian]

probably a server issue--all that stuff is validated server side to prevent easy hacking for unlimited resources.

[hollow gyro]

WIPE

[finite vine]

Servers are still recuperating I believe

[fast epoch]

Got everything back. We good 😄

[true obsidian]

if they were resetting progress, I'd like to think they'd post about it prior to ganking. Server issues makes more sense

[elfin hill]

should i relog then

[wraith haven]

almost feels like there is deep sql queries running

[hollow gyro]

I hope one day we can have VOIP in the morningstar

[heady ember]

matchmaking is currently not working nor is the shop populated

[true obsidian]

god no

[idle goblet]

this sounds atrocious but it would be funny for 10 min

[shrewd python]

We won the game

[true obsidian]

heresy... purged?

[sour depot]

We've become heresy

[visual jacinth]

It's all ogryn now

[true obsidian]

had a good discussion with papa nurgle and learned he's actually not that bad, and we were being pretty unfair, and lasgun shot through face

[sour depot]

Always have been🔫

[swift moth]

All right, not getting mission rewards

[visual jacinth]

Gonna just have to break lads.

[swift moth]

😠

[idle goblet]

fatshark says touch grass 😭

[visual jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-rohan-kishibe-i-refuse-gif-26066583

[nova pagoda]

Break?
But there's heresy to be purged still.

[jagged vigil]

Since the game broke, I want to ask something unrelated to gameplay. Anyone else calls Ogryn in their team 'Snowwhite'?

[nova pagoda]

Slab.
Slab is good.

[visual jacinth]

As long as boss es happy I am apy.

[lethal dawn]

will progress be reset on launch?

[nova pagoda]

Maybe, maybe not.

[visual jacinth]

In the air but they said at the start it was always possible

Now that i know a good majority of the map layouts it won't take as long

[stuck patrol]

Servers dead? unable to sign in

[warm raptor]

server aborted mission as we finished a repair mission rip lmao

[idle goblet]

https://twitter.com/DarktideComms/status/1595467555464003602?cxt=HHwWpIC-4bvSnqQsAAAA

Darktide Comms (@DarktideComms)

We're still working on the outages, and whilst there is/was progress, we are aware that things are still 'not cool'. More news soon, hopefully the good stuff. Light a candle (in a safe and responsible manner).

Twitter · Nov 23, 2022, 5:21 PM

[cloud cradle]

so getting stuck on the loading screen post match is normal?

[stuck patrol]

Ok nevermind, it worked this time.

All these bugs and full 'release' in 7 days btw.

[nova pagoda]

I've personally countered very few bugs, mostly just the servers being on fire.

[idle goblet]

fatshark launches are notoriously spicy, theyll work out the kinks just give it time

[heady ember]

only real bugs ive seen are the crashes

[stuck patrol]

Here's a bug you probably weren't aware of, there's a good chance half of your feats don't work properly, or at all

[nova pagoda]

And most "Bugs" I've noticed is just someone over at Fatshark being dyslexic when it comes to writing what stuff is supposed to do

[stuck patrol]

Yeah, so many feats are incredibly misleading, they need to hire someone better to word those, was the same problem in vt2

[weary sapphire]

That's cool. I just finished a mission and the game got super weird and didn't let me exit. Didnt get any XP or cash. Finished several penances and now they're grayed out and incomplete but also say they're complete at 7/7 and such

[cloud cradle]

currently played 5 matches and i got no xp or cred for it

[warm raptor]

So right now there's no Disruption mission in, right?

[idle goblet]

correct, removed after first day of preorder beta

[cloud cradle]

maintenance underway

[warm raptor]

Okay. 🙂 Last one for the penance, but I'll probably break for the day while they figure out the server stuff they're dealing with.

[nova pagoda]

Speaking of penances, what's up with "shocking stuff."

A case of Fatshark dyslexia or bugged?

[ebon belfry]

Does threat level 5 mean the highest available difficulty?
I have never done a threat level 5, let alone completed one without anyone being downed.
And the corresponding achievement has 2/5 progress on it?
Can anyone explain?

[warm raptor]

I think it means the highest difficulty you've done without anyone going down is Uprising, mine says 3 cause Malice, so I assume if you do 4/5 it'll update accordingly.

[ebon belfry]

I have done malice before, so it should be three then as well. The wording is a bit odd, all other achievement refer to 'malice'/'heresy'/'uprising', but not this one. It specifically states threat level 5.

[warm raptor]

Well, it's gotta be a mission with no downs at all, so if someone went down, that's probably why your malice didn't count. But yeah, that's just my assumption on how it works.

[ebon belfry]

Yeah you could be right though, can't say with absolute certainty I have done it without anyone being downed. I'll keep it in mind - thanks!

[bitter gust]

otherwise tips on how to do it
Im trying to get good at revolver to help

[ebon belfry]

@bold bronze Sorry for the ping, but I saw that you had asked the same question before as well, maybe this can help you out as well!

[regal raven]

For cliffhanger, does it have to be the push ability or can I push and then spam the survivors off with force sword pushing?

[burnt pendant]

Is there any reasonable way to make use of soulblaze, once you get talents for it? I heard there was a staff that actually applied stacks of it.
So far, I've only read that it's a bit hard to apply, and not very useful in most situations.

[spring needle]

how come overweight shark always need to have maintenence / patches / downtime in EU prime hours :(

[inland forum]

coz its an eu company and thats when they work lol

[spring needle]

no, that's literally hours after work 😖

[inland forum]

servers are literally completely broken, it needed to happen

[shrewd pendant]

I'm on my lunch break and the servers are down, what's the deal here I gotta get my darktide fix

[strange jetty]

It's because it's an EU company, server hamsters only work when they are supervised and well fed, so when nobody is there working they go on strike.

[visual jacinth]

The gameplay loop is so good I crashed 5 times last night and I just kept coming back for more.

If they polish this to a shine it's going to be fantastic

[burnt pendant]

heh? I worked until 25 minutes ago, and I might do so again if the servers don't come back up.

[gentle tangle]

So I have a 5950x, 64 gb of ram and 3090 and my cpu does not go wbove 35% usage while running the game set to 12 worker threads and my gpu does not go above 40-50% usage. No matter what graphics settings I use it's still the same range of inconsistent fps that frequently drops to 40ish fps at 2k. I've updated drivers, close background apps and everything but it just seems like there is something severely wrong with the way that the game runs. This is just a little concerning considering the game releases in 7 days and top tier hardware just seems to not matter for better fps in the game. Am I doing something wrong or is there just not any care given to the performance of the game on the development side? Their blog post on "performance" is literally useless info as well.

[spring needle]

Servers are back up @shrewd pendant @burnt pendant

[wet sand]

What do the special rounds on shotguns do, they don't seem to have improved damage

[broken cradle]

i thought max item power was 450 but i just bought a 462 weapon. what is the actual cap?

[frozen patio]

The round shoots in a horizontal line

[pale musk]

anyone seen the disruption mission type yet?

[wet sand]

oh so they're just crowd killers

[frozen patio]

Yea it's meant to be for horde cleave

[wet sand]

game needs some friggin documentation in it

[jolly quarry]

yes on the first day of the beta

[pale musk]

bruh i didnt see it once yet after being lvl 22

[bold saffron]

Wait you seen a disruption mission?

[pale musk]

no now neither

[haughty umbra]

They were available on day 1

[jolly quarry]

it hasnt been back since, it was only there for a short time, i have 1 completion on it according to the penances tho i cant even remember what objective it was

[bold saffron]

are you running windows 11?

[bold saffron]

Go outside iirc from what I’ve heard and touch grass (a joke but it wasn’t exactly inside the hive I think)

[jolly quarry]

it was the desert looking map i think

[grand magnet]

Does anyone know what this symbol means on the mission select screen?

[visual jacinth]

I would also like to know

[bold saffron]

That’s a Aquila

The two headed eagle of the Imperium

[dreamy carbon]

Any fix for this?

[visual jacinth]

Okay, but why is it on some missions and not others.

[wet sand]

I think it might actually just be meaningless decoraiton

[grand magnet]

My theory was either contract related or Emperor gift

[bold saffron]

Wait for them to add disruption back

[sour flower]

is this worth it?

[jolly quarry]

no flak damage bonus, not for me

[sour flower]

and how do you get this helmet? ive seen people wear this in videos

[grave briar]

ok.......so uh, i'm dumb, what is a flash mission?

[vivid orbit]

pretty low rating too

[visual jacinth]

Wait till you hit level 30 and it will reroll into the 400s

[grand magnet]

What class? Veteran maybe but it’s low level.

[sour flower]

alr thanks

[jolly quarry]

the disruption mission was there at day one for a short time, i unlocked the penance mask today (its ugly tho)

[sour flower]

what penance mask?

[jolly quarry]

the zealot helmet. i cant tell you why it unlocked for me and not for you tho

[visual jacinth]

Zugzug sad he missed mission. Now zug will never have Bone ed elment.

[grand magnet]

Check the penance tab. You can unlock cosmetics

[sour flower]

yeah i know but there arent any masks for veteran

[jolly quarry]

theres only one helmet unlock for each class...

[dreamy carbon]

This bolter is cracked as fuck.

[sour flower]

wait is it this penance but the later levels of it?

[grave briar]

Oh that's gross

Congrats

Hang on to that thing and crafting upgrade it

And I was happy with this

[sour flower]

its weird because ive seen people say they got it through melks limited-time acquisitions

[dreamy carbon]

Yea, pinning fire is insane on the Bolter. I can kill a Crusher with like 6-9 ||nice|| bodyshots.

[grave briar]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[sour flower]

ah thank you

[gentle tangle]

No

[sleek knoll]

Hi maybe it has been answered previously but is it normal to get health damage while still having toughness ?

[slow fog]

Yes - if you get hit in melee

[oblique dock]

This is the one I’m rocking atm it’s really nice

[dreamy carbon]

Yup, melee hits chip away at your HP

[jolly quarry]

pinning fire is must have for a bolter *although yours has very little stability which i find is the most important stat

[hybrid tusk]

Anyone had any luck with the Heavyweight Champion penance for Ogryn?

[sleek knoll]

was it always like that ?

[grave briar]

Beautiful

I need to level up my Vet more and find such a beauty

[sour flower]

dude i really hope they dont nerf the bolter and powersword they're like the most fun weapons in the game

[grave briar]

all weapons should be brought up to their level

[raw sage]

Yes, so you actually block and dodge and not just toughness face tank. Fs's way of saying "stop being lazy"

[sour flower]

yeah its just that the other weapons feel lackluster, especially the ones that show up at the start (the shitty fuckin axes)

[dreamy carbon]

This slaps really hard for hordes and pretty much anything. I can delete hordes faster in melee with my Vet than some Zealots\Ogryns.

[tepid minnow]

this is very tempting but I just know if I buy it I'll get offered a thunder hammer and/or flamer tomorrow

[rancid flame]

What have people gotten from mystery aquisitions? Is the probability good?

[dreamy carbon]

Trash, mystery is trash. Save your dockets.

[hybrid tusk]

Never got anything good, I would advise just saving your currency for good stuff on the limited time acquisitions

[cerulean crown]

Is Deflector unique to this weapon type?

[uncut verge]

How many goats have you sacrificed to RNGesus today?

[hybrid tusk]

I'll ask again, any Ogryn players get the Heavyweight Champion penance done yet?

[visual jacinth]

That is some good rolls my dude

[sullen monolith]

Could anyone tell me what is the max gearscore as of now?
And maybe someone found details on chances of a progress wipe?

[grave briar]

I have one of those, it's really good. The stacking cleave is brutal when you click the zappo button

[visual jacinth]

Is that the one where you have to knock down 4 elite ogryn?

[hybrid tusk]

Yes

[unborn pilot]

Am I reading the icons on that bolt gun right??? Full auto when hip firing and semi-auto ADS?????

[dreamy carbon]

Yeah, power sword is really sleeped on. I'm surprised to see so few zealots if any use it.

[grave briar]

The raid with the initial "drop hole" entrance FREQUENTLY has a ton of ogryns camping the hole

[quaint gyro]

does "diehard" stack its effect with "smash em good"?

[swift schooner]

does childhood choice matter?

[visual jacinth]

Keep rerolling mission until ogryn show their faces. Got it

[quaint gyro]

only for your dialogue

[grave briar]

I'm a collector so I grab one of everything new to try it. So that was an incredible find and I will be craft upgrading it for sure. It just shreds armor and hordes

[swift schooner]

thanks

[tepid minnow]

yes, that's right
@dreamy carbon zealots don't get powersword

[grave briar]

Sorry, i'm not in game right now so I forget the name of the mission, but it's a raid where you drop down a hole right away. On 5 difficulty there's normally 3+ ogryn waiting

[unborn pilot]

Is that a vet weapon?

[hybrid tusk]

I think that's the Magistrati Oubliette?

[grave briar]

i thiiiiiiiiink that sounds right

[tepid minnow]

I think so, not sure. only played zealot so far

[unborn pilot]

Y_Y

[grave briar]

Yes, Powersword is on vet, not sure who else if any

[dreamy carbon]

Really? That is . . . an interesting game choice. Zealot is one of the classes I'd most expect with power weapons so them lacking the sword is a huge L.

[tepid minnow]

Zealots get the thunder Hammer though

[unborn pilot]

I really hope so. That's the exact profile I want

[hybrid tusk]

I've also heard that the knockdown penance is easier when you're level 30 with the feat that makes it so you don't stop charging when you hit ogryn enemies

[visual jacinth]

I know the exact mission you're talking about. Thanks for the tip!

[nimble epoch]

Plasma or bolter gun? I honestly find both of them to be amazing tho I'm leaning towards the plasma more for I think.. any thoughts?

[rain dew]

just tried to play my zealot with the thunder hammer i just got without changing his talents off of bleed crit ones i was using with my eviscerator; needless to say i did not have a fun time

[unborn pilot]

Can anyone confirm if vets get that badass spearhead bolt gun?

[visual jacinth]

I got that achievement by having the entire team keep pushing the swarm at the end of the forge level.

[nimble epoch]

I got both the bolter gun and plasma at lvl 22

[paper basin]

I believe it is, yeah. Might be on more of the force weapons when they are added.

[cerulean crown]

Dang

[visual jacinth]

You can stack them up and just bowl them over. Running through a sea of them is hilarious

[unborn pilot]

I haven't seen either and I'm 24, but RNG is never my friend

[dreamy carbon]

Bolter is much better for sustained shooting. I found plasma to overheat too fast and in the same time amount that it vents/reloads I could have layed down much more firepower with a bolter.
It does slap hard, I'll give plasma that.

[bleak maple]

plasma gun is dope

[shy dagger]

Per one of the numerous websites I've seen (and subsequently forgotten about), Deflector seems to be a weapon property that can only appear on Force Swords.

[warm raptor]

I'm torn between thunder hammer and eviscarator. I like the hammer but it feels like the sword is just better to use against most enemies.

[inland pivot]

That looks insane

Hey groaners are the basic trash mobs right? Infected but not full-blown poxwalkers?

[visual jacinth]

Make sure you got level 30 before buying anything out of the weekly shop. Once you got 30 you will roll into a 400+ gear score. Save your stash.

[tepid minnow]

it does.
if I buy it and get a flamer or TH tomorrow, I'll regret buying it but I know if I don't buy it I know I'll get neither tomorrow

[quiet wharf]

Guys My penances stuck like this what should I do??

I just want my new pants 😦

[visual jacinth]

Pray the emperor provides.

[hot breach]

Has anyone else managed to get the 5 minutes of max stacks on Psyker?

[tepid minnow]

no pants for you!
also, you get pants at trust 10 and 25 too (iirc)

[mighty gazelle]

Has anyone ever done Make Every Shot Count with a shotgun? Do you lose accuracy if some pellets miss targets or do you gain more if you hitting multiple targets with one blast?

[minor flower]

Worth it?

[slow crest]

What level do people feel it's cool to start running Malice on an alt if you are experienced and know what you are doing?

[final depot]

Ogryn is REALLY fun so far
how would i go about Friends Will be Friends?

[blissful flower]

Went in at lv 10 Zealot (have lv 30 Ogryn) and was fine

[honest crater]

So what’s the 5th character going to be?

[heavy forum]

Devastating Strike is more or less infinite cleave. Totally worth it.

[idle goblet]

ive run malice on lv 5 characters and nobody had an issue, just put your insignia on so ppl know you arent brand new

[minor flower]

It is under leveled

[heavy forum]

3.5 sec is enough to reactivate it imo

[tawny coyote]

was this worth it ?

[blissful flower]

Rating is stat total, not Gear Power. If you think the bars are good, and like the Mk4 Devil's Claw, it seems fine

[solemn wraith]

oh so i should grab this?

[somber heath]

is this worth it or not reaally`? can someone give their opinion?

[slow crest]

Aight cool, Will give it a go after this one then!

[mighty gazelle]

I second level 5, once you have your toughness regen feat, things start feeling like you're not going to explode when they look at you funny

[undone locust]

Question: It's early days and I don't have enough variety of weapons to properly test this but...
How exactly do different weapon categories work? - Are some of the different names merely cosmetic or do they influence Attack Patterns and/or stat distributions.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons - (Which might be a dubiously accurate source at this point) Lists for example 3 types of Autogun (Braced, Headhunter and Infantry) and 4 types of lasgun (Infantry, Hellbore, Recon-Torrent and Recon-Rapid Fire)...

... And under the Infantry Lasguns there are 3 patterns: Kantrael MG IV, Kantrael MG XII and Kantrael MG Ia

Is there any actual mechanical difference between these three patterns or are they just different skins of the same weapon (Infantry Lasgun) - if you rolled the same weapon with the exact same rating, properties and traits?

[idle goblet]

diff names come with diff attack patterns yes, and for ranged itll affect things like ammo, attack speed, base damage, etc

[proper totem]

any psykers done cliffhanger yet and if so, what maps are good for doing it on

[heavy forum]

also charge time for Lucius pattern is different for each variant

[minor flower]

Torrent Lasguns are good for culling the flesh

[bleak maple]

idk man its so annoying to play with plasma gun

when i go meele m getting recked , before i used infantary lasgun and almost wiped out everyone

[solemn wraith]

look for the maps with open starting area or the smeltry one which has a lot of holes at the end tbh

[minor flower]

Torrent Lasgun > Horde

[rigid lava]

Seriously though how do you do cliffhanger

[solemn wraith]

stagger them with melee block then force push them off the map

[rigid lava]

Is it better to try at harder difficulties?

[solemn wraith]

easy at low difficulty tbh, you can just run to them, but it's totally doable at higher if you know what you are doing

[visual jacinth]

Better with a group that will help you

[rigid lava]

Alright I'll keep trying thank you

[zinc aurora]

ratling

[dawn cypress]

any recommendations for getting cliffhanger as a psyker? For the life of me I've been struggling to find a good spot for attempts. mostly been trying the smelter recently

[rigid lava]

Lol

[dawn cypress]

oh i just now saw you were also asking about that lol

[rigid lava]

Someone before me was as well. I think it's way too hard

[proper totem]

20 is a lot

[pale musk]

bro i got kicked at the end of the lvl and it fucking reset my player lvl......

[rigid lava]

Honestly I would prefer 200 enemies not at the same time to 20 at once

[patent sapphire]

hey everyone, i played v1 a bit but i'm mostly new to the fatshark games, playing as sharpshooter it feels like every ranged weapon i've tried is just not good compared to the lasgun, am i missing something or is the lasgun the best option? i haven't seen a bolter drop so i haven't tried that

[pale musk]

dw i prefer the lasgun too

[visual jacinth]

You know the mission where the ship shoots those hanging rafters and leaves one of them? Have the hord swarm you while you push them with your melee weapon out. Let them stack and then push them off the rafter.

[patent sapphire]

it does so much damage and kills the specialists really quickly and effectively compared to anything else, and so much ammo

[visual jacinth]

Wait, like hard level 1 reset?

[pale musk]

na like i should have been 23 after the mission and it made me 22 at the start

[visual jacinth]

That sucks but what I suggested was way worse.

[pale musk]

yea lvl 1 reset bruh i would have jumped of a cliff

[bleak maple]

how do i go to training room and test my plasma gun?

[rigid lava]

Go to the Psychanium

[patent sapphire]

i think meat grinder unlocks at a certain trust level, it's a low number but i don't think it's there by default

[bleak maple]

cant find any option

[proper totem]

meat grinder

[north wolf]

Speaking of meatgrinder: Very annoying that you have to go there trough a loadingscreen. This needs to be an area you can just walk too, like in Vermintide.

[toxic trail]

are the big hammers for zelot unlocked at what level? ;c

[unreal widget]

is there no more fewer horde?

[hazy gale]

Small world...

[remote osprey]

Any idea how I should go about the Sharpshooter penance Make Every Shot Count? I imagine something with low ammo count like the bolter or the shotgun.

[hazy gale]

Use a gun with as little ammo as possible, be very careful use melee only once you got it

[little stream]

I want to kiss hadron on the lips 😩

[remote osprey]

If you gain ammo back through your coherency, do I have to switch back and empty it again pretty much?

[hazy gale]

ye

[rigid wasp]

I got one at 19. It’s not that good though tbh. Mostly boss killer

[hazy gale]

super annoying but can be done

[remote osprey]

That is very annoying but yes I agree.

[modest maple]

what do you do with old items? just discard them? do you get anything?

[toxic trail]

no aoe smashs? :c

[bleak maple]

pickup 5 grimoires? wat is that?

[rigid wasp]

Nope, single target damage. Very good single target damage but does not well in hordes

[toxic trail]

:sadge:

[lapis haven]

is there way to see buffs coming weapons?

[north wolf]

On surge staff use, do I need to wait for the bar to fill? Or do I just left click whenever? It's a very confusing staff.

[rigid lava]

Is that the fire one?

[rigid wasp]

Plague ogryn with full charge and dash forward ability and a charged heavy attack takes out about 25 percent of its health

[lilac talon]

You can click whenever, it'll be weaker though.

[toxic trail]

ooo nice. what weapon you running as second?

[rigid wasp]

Fully charged hammer with a heavy attack does about 10ish percent per hit

The flamer 🔥. It is the only correct option

[little stream]

Bolter isn’t spelled that way

[inner swift]

Has literally anyone actually seen a purple+ rarity weapon in the armory?

[rigid wasp]

Yes the ammo feaster. Boss weapon only type gun

[visual jacinth]

Yes. It's possible.

[slow fog]

Shotgun might be a good option for the 0 ammo 100% accuracy penance

[rigid jolt]

yeah I've got a purple autopistol bolter

[little stream]

If your bolter is boss only you’re using it wrong

[mighty heart]

plasma gun is dookie, learned it the hard way today

[slow fog]

Hit 10 on my zealot, want the dang eviscirator but thats around 20 I think

[south fulcrum]

Yesss

[rigid wasp]

It’s like 16-17 I think. 2hander is a beast dude. Melts enemy’s and cuts horde in half literally

[silk dove]

Did anyone else finally get a bolter and hate it, I don't know how to cope

The damage is fun but you sacrifice literally every other metric, doesn't seem ideal for level 4 / 5 at all unless your teammates are really covering your weaknesses with it. Also the iron sights on it are some hot garbage.

[toxic trail]

well its not a space marine bolter is it?

[north wolf]

Psyker: "Yeah sure, you can cast a headpop at 97% and be fine, sure go nuts."
Also Psyker: "If you so much as LOOK at the surge staff over 83%, I'll explode us all!!!"

[jolly quarry]

also psyker with a staff: oh i hit 100%, guess ill die instantly even with my special up

[idle goblet]

i mean its not for mowing down hordes or anything, its sparingly used for specials/elites

[silk dove]

Well you can hip-fire in to close elites like maulers / ogryns, but trying to ADS is awful with the sights + the recovery period between shots

[jolly quarry]

oh bolter can mow down hordes alright, they just need to come in a line, 3 shots 12 kills

[raw sage]

I'm actually not sure how the perils works once it hits 100%. It feels like there's a hidden threshold before you go boom, because I've definitely hit 100% and been able to quell, but other times couldn't quell at all.

[shrewd pendant]

Is there a chance of finding purple or gold weapons in the regular shop?

[unique turret]

Why do Curios have ratings? I get it for weapons, its for the stat distribution. But im curious what the hell the number is meant to represent for those

[jolly quarry]

there is supposed to be a 3s animation during which you can use your special ability to not die but its sometimes bugged when you hit it using a staff

[fringe igloo]

Are all 7 mission types in the beta rn?

[slow fog]

It seems to be if you do anything that generates perils after hitting 100 you boom. Brain burst bolt doesn't count

[idle goblet]

takes practice i guess but its not so bad imo

[raw sage]

Ah gotcha. Can you quell for that? Or only special?

[jolly quarry]

only the special

[raw sage]

I've hit 100 and gone boom before but maybe didn't notice that I had hit 100 already.

[proper merlin]

whats the highest gear score range on weps atm?

[night wagon]

What does +1 Wound mean for a curio on vet?

[red ledge]

Hey guys what means "wound" here?

[slow fog]

So, so long as you start charging bb at lower than 100 youre fine.

Like others have said staffs have less room for error but generally operate on the same principal

[proper merlin]

one rectangle of your health bar

[jolly quarry]

wounds section off your health bar, when you go down you lose one section practically giving you more chances to go down without dying

[candid idol]

What constitutes a crit? I've got a charmed bullet stubber and headshots aren't refilling its mag. I thought all headshots count as crits?

[night wagon]

oh wow that's pretty strong. +2 max stamina seems inconsequential no? Or is that also "bars" of stamina

[red ledge]

but does it improves health? Isnt it a fix amount?

[slow fog]

Wounds are the segments your health bar is broken into. It represents how many times you can be downed before you die. If there is purple in your last bar, you die

[unique turret]

Increasing wounds also secretly increases your resistance to corruption and grimoires. Not sure if its intended though

[candid idol]

Bars. Max stamina is good

[jolly quarry]

if youre sharpshooter i HIGHLY recommend getting toughness curios since you basically get double the bonus as other classes, same for health with ogryn

[outer stream]

whats better between a recon lasgun and a braced autogun?

[raw sage]

Gotcha, that's good to know, thanks!

[tall widget]

<@&735928989146939404> Please tell me if, after buying a game on the Steam platform, an alert came that I was official creator and I was given a free key. Can I transfer this key to another person?

[willow island]

Depends on what you value. At least in my experience, the braced autoguns usually have better damage and tend to penetrate a bit, but the recon las is more ammo efficient overall.

[outer stream]

i tend to play quite gun heavy

[raw sage]

Do grimoires drain your health?! Now I know why I randomly have health draining after using a Medicare 😂

[outer stream]

picking off value targets at longer range and spraying headshots down a horde

[jolly quarry]

they take a big chunk over a few seconds and then keep draining very very slowly over time

[shrewd pendant]

are there more than 1 kind of boltgun?

[willow island]

Recon las is better at range; Braced autogun at close to mid-range, since you can actually ADS with the recon.

[raw sage]

Hahahahah whoops I always pick up the grimoires as psyker as my teammates don't wanna hold them

[dense sable]

You can ADS with any Lasgun though

[jolly quarry]

bad call, give it to the slab 😛 it drains on everyone the same but theyre less likely to die than you *cause it disappears when the carrier dies

[willow island]

Of course, the superior choice is the Combat Shotgun.

In general though, I feel it's ultimately down to a combination of random stat allocation and user preference.

[raw sage]

Ahhh

[jolly quarry]

i think its more down to team composition, you need ideally 2 people who can consistently pick off tons of traitor guard at long range

[outer stream]

also i tried a game of zealot, but found myself being destroyed by longer range snipers which i usually take care of as sharpshooter

[slow fog]

Imo they should make the grim objective give guaranteed emp gift

[jolly quarry]

my main is zealot and i can deal with anything armored and massed melee with eviscerator and bolter very quickly but 30 guys with a lasgun over long range in an open room are the bane of my existence

[outer ivy]

Pretty sure it’s fine, but I’m digging to get an answer for ya.

[slow fog]

Grenade and charge is the solution for las boiz lmao

[jolly quarry]

that does nothing when theyre spread out in huge rooms

[tall widget]

@outer ivy thank you very much

[willow island]

30 dudes with lasguns in a room makes my bolter-lugging Sharpshooter pleased as punch. I quite enjoy making traitor guard turn into chunky salsa. But, when I've had party wipes on difficulty 3, it's usually to ranged units hosing down the melee-heavy types. Snipers are the bane of existence and should be killed with extreme prejudice and righteous zeal.

[slow fog]

Yeah I know i was mostly being facetious. Realistically you just go for a clump and and hope the team does their job too

[jolly quarry]

does psykinetics aura (15% ability cooldown (allies in coherency) on elite kill) apply to yourself as well? and is it when you kill stuff or when anyone in coherency kills stuff? vague descriptions as ever

[jolly quarry]

for that role i recommend the high damage single shot las guns, you have 5x the ammo, 3x the mag capacity, MUCH less recoil and still kill in one shot

[slow fog]

I'm curious about the ability cooldown aura too

[jolly quarry]

although nothing beats hosing down crushers with a boltgun in 2s but your team can fill that role as well

[terse peak]

Thats an @paper coral question- wardens are just discord mods haha

[slow fog]

By the by 30 psykers. The soul fire on ult with 6 stacks melts enemies

[jolly quarry]

thats great to know, i was sorely disappointed by the 7 damage ticks in a tiny aoe on wrack and ruin

[slow fog]

Yeah I tested it in the psykhanium and even on difficulty 4 it will kill any trash it touches as it ticks, will do serious damage to specials too

[native stratus]

Something i found on reddit incase u need it : I was one of the disappointed people complaining that the game doesn't manage to get decent fps even with literally everything turned off/low.

Today I found a fix for it that worked for me. I'm able to run the game now with high settings and I'm getting stabile 60fps. (For reference I got a 2070S)

The fix: The game defaults to a certain number of CPU threads. For me it was 12, and I thought it would automatically pick the right option, a big.number is good, right?

Not right.

I tried randomly setting it to 8 and noticed a difference, but it was still quite stuttery/bad.

Then I set it to 9. And that was it. That was the magic number for me. The performance increased drastically and the game runs smooth af now. I can't overstate how massive impact it had.

So my suggestion for people with performance issues is to try different values for the amount of threads and see what works. You can change it in the launcher settings (not the ingame settings)

Really hope this helps some people.

For the Emperor! u/SmeagolsBarber

[astral peak]

4 stack is enough to take care adds

[slow fog]

And with how much range it has, its basically a horde delete button

[willow island]

@jolly quarry
That's a totally fair point; I actually quite like how they've done lasguns in this game.

My counterpoint isn't really about what is best, it's kinda just that I like watching them turn into paste from like the waist up and lasguns haven't done that for me just yet. I also like the ability to blow enemy ogryn to bits in like 2 seconds regardless of what they are.

[slow fog]

One thing I am curious about is how it interacts with cover, because if it ignores it, it would become super useful against las teams

[jolly quarry]

oh i totally get it, im sticking to the bolter with my zealot even tho the las is more practical and i can still oneshot crushers with chain weapons + charge ability, its just too much fun

[willow island]

Super gratifying

[jolly quarry]

the burst dps, especially with staggering fire perk is crazy, you can kill 3 ogryns with one mag in like 5s *with the drawback of not being able to clear las enemies remotely as fast as a lasgun

[terse peak]

The bolter is the only thing making me regret leveling psyker first

[ashen rampart]

Is there a way to increase size of text in game? Hard to read it

[jolly quarry]

theres a text size slider in the interface options

[ashen rampart]

It is at maximum but it does not appear to do anything for me

[tall widget]

@terse peak Oh, and then who should write with this question?

[willow island]

I stacked up toughness trinkets on my sharpshooter, so I've got like 300 Toughness. I regen a percentile constantly so long as I don't let them close, so as long as I have acceptable cover I can usually deal with entrenched shooters pretty efficiently with the bolter on semi-auto. Definitely faster with other weapons, I admit.

[jolly quarry]

hmm thats strange, i havent used it but it sounds non-functional, consider filing a bug report

[agile beacon]

is anyone actually able to complete a malice mission now? before i was doing it regularly now... its basicly impossible

[jolly quarry]

i havent noticed a difference, maybe youre unlucky with teammates?

[ashen rampart]

Ah it increases the size of the subtitle which can help, but not the menu

[jolly quarry]

oooh its just for subtitles, my bad. well there doesnt seem to be a hud scaling option *to make it bigger, only smaller

[calm quartz]

So I am trying to get the 3 elites killed with perils of the warp explosion, how tf is it possible when the explosion seems to do so little damage.

[agile beacon]

probably damage them a bit before exploding

[tall shadow]

Get them low and go boom

[rigid wasp]

Alright so an ogryns goal is to take pressure off the lil baby classes. So am I supposed to be bull charging into enemy firing lines to make them all target me or should I be sitting next to the veteran and baby sit him? Ogryns single target heavy toughness feat makes me pretty much unstoppable killing ranged squads so I’m fine either way

[calm quartz]

I guess thats the only way, but that just makes it so much more annoying

[jagged olive]

Anyone else got this problem? All my friends running around with helmets now. I completed it but...Its not completed?

[tall shadow]

I would go into training and test how much you need to do before you can blow up

[jolly quarry]

try to crowd control with grenade launchers/suppression from heavy stubba, use your shield to advance into heavy fire so your buddies can shoot without getting suppressed, block chokepoints with shield so your melees can stand inside you and hack away without danger and knock over hordes with heavy attacks/charge when theres no choke point *also bind ranged enemies in melee by charging when theyre not too far away and reachable

[limpid walrus]

Guys, i found a strat for Cliffhanger. I call it Dr. Livesey strat.
1: Equip Maccabian Dueling Sword (Optional)
2: Get Kinetic Deflection
3: Stand on the bridge
4: Keep blocking, they'll get staggered by themselves.
5: Get on the middle of the bridge
6: Look to the ledge past the horde
7: Remind them that the word Chaos and the word Death should mean the same to them
8: Pop your ability and push like your life depends on it

[unreal crypt]

i got the same issue its bugged

the server crashed when i got the penances and i got like 6 completed at one time and none of the rewards/they are locked

[humble pendant]

what does that mean?

[mighty gazelle]

I'm jealous

[fiery wagon]

where to check what type of missions you already done? Didn't need it until no, gotta helmet hunt

[jolly quarry]

decent gun but i think ive seen better perks, also +20% against flak iz best

[jagged olive]

Thanks for reply, I will be patient then!

[jagged bane]

Its Pych'n Time!

[ebon belfry]

Are maniacs, ragers?

[jolly quarry]

no theyre the most human looking of the horde enemies afaik

[rapid widget]

worth it guys???

[jagged bane]

in full geme there wil be forge

[wooden acorn]

Had 3 master-crafted show up in the limited time shop one of them being a knife with bonus to flak

[jolly quarry]

sadly the carapace bonus is suuuper niche (pretty much only crushers) but pinning fire is a must and it has good stability

[silent beacon]

for warp battery do you need the warp battery feat? I had 4 charges for nearly 8 mins and I got nothing

[stuck ridge]

Not all of the Mission Types are available yet. Repair is expected to be here in a few days, and Espionage was temporarily removed IIRC, though I don't know if that was intentional or not.

[jagged olive]

uh worth yes

[mighty gazelle]

Knives are good, but saving my marks for a XII and power sword/chain sword

[ebon belfry]

Thank you!

[slow fog]

seems very good

[jolly quarry]

id wait for a better one tbh, maniacs and carapace bonuses are near worthless

[knotty vessel]

when are disruption missions coming back?

[dense sable]

What are the 7 types of missions? Repair, Raid, Strike, Assassination, Investigation.. What else?

[topaz citrus]

anyone been able to complete maleus monstronum yet?

[tall shadow]

It’s bugged have to do it on heresy not malice

[slow fog]

Im not sure if it was a bug but "Dreg Rager" is an armour type across like 4 specials, so if it gives a damage bonus against them its very good

[knotty vessel]

disruption. not in gameplay loop - got removed day 1

[wraith haven]

is there a fix for the penances not finishing properly?

[dense sable]

Well, I listed 5 of them. Whats the other one? Also, are you sure? I saw someone with a helmet

[crude wolf]

been struggling with the penance for preacher that says you have to kill a mutant with a melee in a charge, which ive done several times, but it never completes it. has anyone completed it that has tips or maybe thoughts of what i might be doing wrong?

[tall shadow]

They are working on it

[jolly quarry]

dreg rager is an enemy type thats either flak or what the unarmored ogryn has, its definitely not an armor type

[wraith haven]

very

[slow fog]

Have your team damage them first. Use the axe, hold the melee attack button before you charge, hit charge and slap them. If you have a psyker, they should be able to brain burst them once

[dense sable]

Lmao.. 7/7 but not done?

[jagged olive]

ongoing glitch atm, many has it

[jolly quarry]

shoot it twice, then do your charge with a heavy attack when it grabs someone

[spring needle]

Are Plasma Guns worth using at all?

[wraith haven]

Thank you

[crude wolf]

I will try this, thank you!

[north wolf]

Again question about surge staff: Should I fully charge? Or just spam?

[crude wolf]

I will give this a shot, Jav1k, thanks!!

[jolly quarry]

try it in the meatgrinder, i found when fully charged it will damage a handful of enemies by 100+, the rest only takes a tiny bit no matter the charge

[humble pendant]

ok thanks mate

[north wolf]

So it doesn't seem to matter?

[jolly quarry]

it does, when charged it will kill like 3-4 horde enemies, when not it wont kill anything

[burnt pendant]

Is there a lit of staves somewhere? The descriptions don't really tell me anything
Trauma seems to be Conflag, Voidstrike looks like Fireball. Surge Force ???

[slow fog]

Go into the psykhanium and Dreg Rager is an armour type - I'm aware this is almost definitely not intentional, but yeah. It is the rager, the mutant, the flamer and I think one other. It's really odd

[jolly quarry]

theres ground aoe (trauma), lightning (surge), fireball (voidstrike), flamer (purgatus)

[slow fog]

It might have just been a bug with my particular instance of the psykhanium, but yeah. Also only the unarmoured variant of the rager, the armoured rager was flak or carapace, and ironically easier to kill

[jolly quarry]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609 here you can see when you unlock each

[slow fog]

Note that voidstrike doesn't behave quite like the fireball, its more of a rocket launcher than a lobbed fireball. But fireball is definitely the closest analogy

[stuck ridge]

Correction, Repair is available right now.

[late ice]

Any tips for that veteran penance where you have to have 100% accuracy?

[burnt pendant]

Thank you. Pity about that beautiful Surge staff I currently can not afford, but I guess I'll get one of each eventually. I mostly run around with a gun, anyways.

[knotty vessel]

how do you see which mission types you've done so far?

[topaz citrus]

hey bro what map this on?

[jolly quarry]

you can discard items to get a bit of money back, maybe you can afford it with that

[stuck ridge]

Someone suggested taking the Revolver, doing melee only on the Ammo Raid mission, then getting kills at the very end before extract

[slow fog]

Haven't done it yet, but I would think the shotgun would be a good option, relatively low ammo count, has a spread so harder to miss with

Also if you load the special round, it turns the spread from circular into a horizontal line, so if you're shooting into a horde, if you miss your first target, you'll probably hit something

[strong tangle]

the beat-em up penitence has been conplatied 7/7 but its not unlocking anyidea on how to fix this

[burnt pendant]

Nah, it is an entire game's worth of money away and I have 13 minutes left. Not a chance. But, again, I'm level 12 or so. Great roll/trait combos will matter in a week. Maybe.
Honestly, psyker as a class is kind of underwhelming, design-wise. I'm hoping the next subclass for it will me more up my alley.
What is the secondary for the lightning staff? Can't really extrapolate from the description.

[jolly quarry]

theres nothing you can do rn, lots of people seem to have this problem

[mighty gazelle]

I think the shotgun is good too, but I'm not sure how accuracy is calculated on it. If some of your pellets miss, do you lose accuracy? All the successes so far have reported using the stub revolver

[strong tangle]

fair at least im not the only one

[jolly quarry]

every staff has the same projectile as primary, only the secondary differs

[topaz citrus]

psyker is insanely good at higher difficulties with that lightning staff, you just prevent so much dmg from specials locking them in place