EAFlorida 🐊

[thorn spoke]

Their new roaster

[narrow coral]

The Duo

it's not released yet, Jason says 4-6 weeks and it'll be ready

I actually had an electrician out today to come walk the job so they can quote me for pulling the circuts

I'm in a rental, so when the owner was randomly here dropping off a replacement hot water heater, I asked him if I could hire an electrician on my dime to put lights in the back and pull a new circuit for my espresso bar. I gave him no more context as he was busy and gave me a "oh yea that's fine as long as he pulls a permit"

Like sweet dude, thanks for not asking more questions...and don't mind the hole in the wall for the vent...

[fossil cobalt]

Just out of curiosity, do you not miss the amount of profiling control you get with the Met, as opposed to the Muvna?

[narrow coral]

I have more with the Muvna, I have infinite-on-the-fly control. It's just not repeatable to the level of the Met, and without a heated group-head temperature is a swing rather than a dialed in number...but honestly, the fun factor means more to me...

[fossil cobalt]

That's awesome

You feel like the espresso they produce are about equal?

Quality/flavor-wise

[narrow coral]

honestly...the Met probably produces more consistent espresso, and maybe better over all if you care about repeatability, but the difference is just shades of grey, not substantial...met is more temperature accurate with a heated group and water chamber, a computer controlled piston is going to apply pressure more consistently than me turning a crank

[fossil cobalt]

That makes sense

[narrow coral]

The biggest reason I'm going to sell the Met is because I want to buy a new roaster. #coffee-roasting message
Once I get it, I'm also going to sell my M2 roaster.

But it's gonna cost me like 4500 bucks for a Coffee Crafters Duo

I figure I'll get 18 for the Met, and maybe 15 for the M2 to take a bite out of that.

[fossil canopy]

For those on here that don't use Instagram, the Bean's Beans website is unlocked and stocking the coffee at noon EST.

Thanks for all the kind words and feedback on the coffee I've brought to our EAF meetups, it means a lot ❤️.

[fossil cobalt]

That is awesome! Just picked up a bag of the Salomon Estela

[fossil canopy]

Thank you so much! That's a fun one I hope you like it. The first natural I've roasted that I thought was worth selling lol. Super vibrant without too much funk

[crisp oxide]

Should post here if you have enough volume available to actually be able to take a few orders lol
https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1270844968537165988

Make sure you have inventory/stock limits right though just in case

[fossil canopy]

Yeah Carl mentioned that as well a few days ago but I ended up deciding not to since I think demand for the initial batch is enough from Instagram and locals.

I'll probably post there and maybe hint in Bana (I've entirely ignored shilling in Bana for now) for the next restock. I've sold out of everything but 1 bag of two coffees so far. Trying to keep the quantity down to an amount I can fulfill in one weekend day or so and give myself a week to do it for flexibility.

Once I move on from the Kaffelogic that oe day will be more coffee hopefully.

[fossil cobalt]

You have your eyes on a particular roaster yet?

I'm not super familiar with roasting but it seems like the <$6K range for mid-sized roasters is a bit lacking atm?

[past zinc]

My dad bought one a few years ago and I believe it was ~$10k for a 1kg

[fossil canopy]

Yes, I'm currently in the talks with someone on buying something. I don't want to say yet though and get any hopes up because it's a really good deal and if it falls through I almost surely will have to go with something different.

You're right in that mid size/affordable roaster options are pretty lacking outside of gas powered options. The most obvious options would be a bullet or Kaleido but both of those have some quirks and likely would be difficult for me to get the same roasting style out of them.

Then there's the Roest L200 ultra which is a sample roaster but with pretty good throughput. not enough of an upgrade in quantity at all for the super steep price of 10k. And then there's Stronghold S7 Pro or S7X which can run on home 240v circuits but are really expensive for the batch size as well.

[fossil canopy]

That's a gas drum I assume? 1 kg on electric is a tall order and 20k+ for most options.

I always understood why specialty coffee has a premium but when actually crunching numbers to see how many sales you'd need to pay off a decent roaster it was rougher than I expected. Website hosting, transaction fees, packaging, shipping, losses to practice roasts, etc all add up so fast. Making a living doing this would be brutal. I'm really grateful I work in a fairly lucrative industry and can do this for fun.

[past zinc]

Yessir

[thorn spoke]

@fossil canopy I'm selling my roaster

Coffee crafters artisan 3-e with PID contorl

[fossil canopy]

I might hit you up if the deal I'm looking at right now falls through. I think I might need to do a few things to get one of those roasting the way I want but might be solid platform, especially for the price.

[thorn spoke]

Makes great coffee, like any machine there is a learning curve, I think describing to you my working approach would be easier to do than to a rando because I think the roast levels we desire are closer together in preference

The downside is the thing only roast 600grams at time with the PID, any more the PID can't keep up

[limber stag]

Learned this the hard way!

[fossil canopy]

Is the PID a hardware module or controlled by artisan or something? If Artisan than I'd like to think it could be tuned to deal with the machines quirks at a higher batch size.

[thorn spoke]

Hardware model, works with artisan

The roaster itself is underpowered to keep up with the PID at the speeds I want to roast at

It's possible to roast larger batch sizes manually and also possible to roast larger batch sizes more of a medium ish possibly with the PID

I don't roast manually on it, I know thankfully has a model a size bigger and he gets good coffee out of his roasting manually but I've always used the PID

[fossil canopy]

Yeah the control seems much more convenient. Fluid bed roasters are usually more of a pain to control fully manually imo since they are much more sensitive to power changes. Cooking with a thin pan vs cast iron basically

[narrow coral]

When I get my Duo, come roast in Mount Dora with me 🙂

At least until you sell enough beans to buy one yourself and not be out of pocket for it.

[fossil canopy]

Thanks for the offer! I think I've got my next roaster for Bean's Beans worked out though 🤞.

But still down to roast for fun sometime, if you want to show it off or work on profiles or something.

[narrow coral]

I'm definitely going to take you up on that!!!

I just signed my quote to have an electrician come in and pull new circuits, so my house will have an appropriate power setup for 3-4 roasters. I still haven't found a place that will host us that has anything similar, so I'm gonna just bite the bullet and setup my kitchen

I told my wife I'm finally having the outdoor lights she asked for put in...that's my cover story...

[fossil canopy]

Made my last few tweaks to the production profile on this one and it's crazy good. Managed to minimize funk/toastyness/underdeveloped notes all while boosting juiciness more. Like watermelon lime soda . You made a good choice

[past zinc]

Clearly you've been sampling the product if you're up this late 😂

I missed this drop. I'll be quicker next time.

[limber stag]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?usp=sharing

hi all! If you plan on attending, please signup on the may '26 tab when you have a moment

[narrow coral]

Darn Sundays

[frank juniper]

Anyone familiar with resident coffee roasters out of Gainesville? Any good?
https://resident.coffee/?srsltid=AfmBOop4VbZTz9oTnZIZTHe8OD3M_LVYrB0zk4V6EY4Z_48LHqADZhrh

[slim ridge]

Light-medium, better than lineage. Their cafe is well dialed and food is great.

[frozen bronze]

All right this is a long shot, as I don't normally sell stuff online . I bought a good share of coffee from a Colombian producer of my favorite coffee while they were out in San Diego. (7kg worth) . To my dumb surprise , this is a ton of coffee and I don't see myself using it all even if I freeze it. If anyone wants some , I've repackaged them into 500g bags and you can have it at my cost ,($20/bag) . You can pick it up local in cape coral or I can drive to ft Myers or ship at cost to you) . Because the whole Internet is a trust system, I'm willing to ship it to you in advance if you have a long standing reddit account . I really want to share this coffee with someone. It's unlike anything I've tasted

[narrow coral]

green or roasted

[frozen bronze]

Roasted

[soft forge]

Any details on the roaster

[frozen bronze]

Honestly no, I'm going to assume it's in house, I'll take pictures when I get home

I got the whole lot in one single bag and got baggies from my local roaster to make smaller batches

[clever thistle]

Second this, also the owners are great people that I always feel good supporting :-).

[limber stag]

@raw sentinel hey 👋 next meetup 5/17

[limber stag]

Reminder to fill this out if you can make it. @narrow coral we need to make sure the next one is on a Sunday! Maybe we can do a small meetup on a Sunday this quarter

[narrow coral]

I can't make Sundays, I could make a Saturday though 🙁

Wait, I thougth you said it was a Sunday this time around, I can probably make the 17th if it's a Saturday

The 17th is a Sunday, I could make the 16th, but not the 17th.

[limber stag]

D’oh I meant Saturday

We should brew on a Saturday for you! I’ve already locked in the clubhouse for 5/17 but maybe we can do a roasters meetup or a smaller more casual one before the next meetup

[narrow coral]

Next one for roasters will be at my place, I couldn't find a place to host so I'm having an electrician plumb it for me.

will be 2x 20amp 120's and 1x 20 amp 240 circuit for roasting on the coffee bench

with a 650 CFM ventilation kit once I get my Duo

[limber stag]

I will bring my roaster

https://tenor.com/view/friends-ross-geller-david-schwimmer-tv-series-american-sitcom-gif-10468074290607788394

[raw sentinel]

Hey! Where is it gonna be? Happy to be here 🙌🏼

[limber stag]

It’ll be in Longwood at my HOA clubhouse

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?usp=drivesdk

Linked the address and signup sheet here

[raw sentinel]

Ok thanks! Gotta see if I can make it up I’d love to come

[frank juniper]

There's a local coffee shop here in Tallahassee that carries them

Maybe ill try it out, although i usually prefer lighter roasts

[past zinc]

Superwow rules. Thanks for the recommendation!

[zealous hinge]

Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!

Let me know if you find anywhere else. 🤣🤣🤣

What’d you have?

[past zinc]

Yuan yi Yuan from Glitch

Can't say I've ever seen glitch beans anywhere

Also don't know if I've seen a coffee from China but one other time

One of the people with me is a self professed matcha snob and said theirs was really really good

I want to go back and try the espresso tonic and the Ube latte

[zealous hinge]

The Ube latte is my wife’s go to. 👌🏻

[past zinc]

Nice. What's your go-to?

[narrow coral]

2x 20 amp 120v circuits and a 240v...ready for more roasting...

[past zinc]

Nice!!

Is that top left one 240v? Haven't seen one like that before

[narrow coral]

yea 20amp, but I had them wire it with 10-3, so if I have an urge to make it a 30 amp circuit it's just a swap of the breaker and the outlet.

[past zinc]

Nice! I put in one of those not long ago

[soft forge]

Looks like the dryer plug

[narrow coral]

dryer is 30 amp

[safe bison]

My stance against coferments has been vindicated!

https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/s/6zSEdUl5C5

[thorn spoke]

Are you against them existing or just want transparency?

[thorn spoke]

Some of the more modern processes add a lot of value for the farmer, it's a tough way to make a living, you can go from making a comfortable amount to going out of business in a blink of a eye with variables that aren't in your control, weather, tariffs etc etc.

Transparency at face value seems like a great idea and it's not one that I'm against but with no real linguistic discipline and/or regulation of definitions there is always gonna be a mystery at origin.

As a example, coferment with X can mean:
Whole fruit
Pulp
Juice
Extract
Yeast

On top of that you start adding things like thermal shock and other fermentation protocols that aren't defined and mean different things to different producers then you get a situation even if you are told what is going on you won't know what's going on

I think some of the arguments on either side are valid, I personally don't drink a lot of and often don't enjoy co-ferments, just wanted to throw that out there in case you haven't heard these arguments and points of view before

[narrow coral]

Honestly, just transparency for me. I like some co-ferments, but I just want to know what people are adding to them.

This stuff is one of my favorites of all times, and while they don't call it a co-ferment by name, their description of the process makes it clear that it 100% is one. I just appreciate that they're transparent about the process.
https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-cherrycola-12-kg

[safe bison]

To me, I’ve always associated co-ferments with being in the same boat as flavored coffee. Finding out that natural flavors are indeed being added to these coffees completely validates my thinking

That’s all. I’ve never been a fan

The transparency is nice though for sure. I agree with you there

[thorn spoke]

Unless you are there you ain't gonna know what's going on with a particular coffee, even if you go there depending on when you show up and when you leave and you still might not know what's going on, that applies to washed or otherwise

Not to say I don't like the idea of transparency, it's just not a realistic reality at the moment and not always helpful to apply pressure in that direction

I'm with ya in spirit though, and also don't care for co-ferments

[narrow coral]

That is why my approach is to not buy from those producers who won't be transparent. Vote with my dollars.

[thorn spoke]

What I'm saying is you don't ever know, with any producer

[slim ridge]

Transparency is nice, but this is such a non-issue in the grand scheme of producer - middle man - consumer

[narrow coral]

I certainly guess they could just lie, but once caught, that would do bad things to their reputation, and that would likely impact their bottom line.

[narrow coral]

Yea, I agree here to a big extent. Most coffee being sold to final consumers isn't green, it's already roasted. I suspect the home roaster market only represents an astronomically small fraction of the coffee being consumed.

[safe bison]

co ferment isnt an issue if the additives are properly disclosed.
Adding synthetic flavouring juices & sugars & labeling it as "strawberry co ferment" is a serious problem

[slim ridge]

transparency is good, but what is happening via the reddit stuff doesn't vibe with me

[thorn spoke]

I'm not saying anyone is a lying, I'm saying there is a lot of variables you won't know, fermentation often can occur on the truck depending on how far away the washing station is to the farm etc etc

Like Carl pointed out, it's very far down the list of concerns, so many more things need to change before we really start hyper fixating on transparency

[narrow coral]

Of course, but there is a big difference between what happens on a truck as it drives down the road to a container of coffee cherries (that doesn't contain something else,) and neglecting to disclose purposely infusing said coffee cherries with something else. I'm not saying either thing is bad, but people who want to sell coffee beans at a premium price need to disclose such things to those buying the beans. We can get lots of cheap and very excellent coffee beans, if a producer wants to go from cheap to boutique, transparency is part of the cost they should have to pay.

[fossil canopy]

My main issue is allergens. I almost ordered a coffee for my wife that had coconut in the mossto and was not obvious from the marketing.

She has a coconut allergy, not sure if whatever causes the allergy would make it through processing and roasting but risking it is not worth it. There's plenty of less common allergies beyond your typical nut allergies.

Something not marketed as a coferm or with additives and just "roasted coffee" on the label but may contain allergens can be dangerous for some people

[thorn spoke]

I never said anything about properly disclosing infusing, you replied to my claim about not being able to know about what happens at origin. To clarify, I'm saying you will never know most likely, unless you are there and even then it could be tricky. I outlined some reasons, linguistic definitions, middle men, there are numerous

[narrow coral]

Oh man, that's crazy, I didn't think about it from that side. That is a pretty serious concern.

[safe bison]

Anyhow, it’s a great discussion. I’m glad that it’s been brought to light. I don’t care for flavored coffees, so if roasters start to list if artificial or natural flavors were added to a coffee during the “coferment,” it is a good thing.

[narrow coral]

Yea can't argue with you there. Nothing you can do but try to find a place to buy that's as close to the growers as possible!

[safe bison]

Can anyone recommend any great coffee shops in manhattan proper?

Going to check out Arcane

Not sure if I’m going out to Brooklyn or not

[fossil canopy]

Imo the best thing roasters can do is put a "may contain additives" or something if they are aware that a producer is adding something or anything. To fermentation, co-drying, etc.

At the least removes some liability in that people with really bad allergies know to stay away from anything vague like that. Even if you can't reliably say every additive in it. Sort of like the "processed with shared equipment" or in a " prepared facility that processes tree nuts" type label. Just gives people a common sense warning so they know to stay away.

Otherwise it's a bit unreasonable to expect coconut in a coffee for instance if you are an average person, even if otherwise well informed on avoiding your allergen.

Just the confident one ingredient "roasted coffee" label can give some false confidence in the safety.

[safe bison]

I can relate to this. I have IBS and certain ingredients can really trigger it. It’s frustrating to not know why you’re having a reaction when it's due to an undisclosed ingredient.

For me it’s garlic & onion powder. It’s in EVERYTHING

[fossil canopy]

My digestive issues are triggered by anything and everything so I just eat/drink what I want lol.

Drink a glass of water? Indigestion, heartburn, gas pain. A night of drinking no problem, no issues at all.

It just hurts all the time anyways so whatever lol.

[fossil canopy]

Rip that's rough

[safe bison]

I might be guilty of this on occasion

[thorn spoke]

Suited. I dunno if that's in Manhattan proper but it's in Manhattan

Also i n Chelsea there is a coffee project ny

[safe bison]

Yea that’s downtown! I’ll check it out thank you!

[clever thistle]

You should stop in CoffeeProject for sure, everyone there is pretty amazing. Good coffee program and good people to support.

[thorn spoke]

Honestly my favorite spot up there, and no matter where you are there is generally one nearby which is nice

[clever thistle]

What an interesting and nuanced topic. After 20+ years in the industry I have some strong opinions, but they never start with telling a famer what to do with their product. Mostly agree with everything @thorn spoke has noted along with @slim ridge . This is such a small amount of the coffee we are consuming, but it seems to be the current vocal minority.
Maybe unpopular opinion: I think it needs to be on the roaster to make those determinations and spend the resources to ensure their labeling is correct for THEIR consumer. If they can't verify processing information (to the best of everyone's abilities) then maybe they should not be selling it. If the market pressure (I don't agree with this route) is pushed back to the producer to stop doing it, they will. I do, currently, appreciate PERC's approach of still buying the coffee and labeling to the best of their ability.
I will leave you with something to think about.
If we can sell shit like this (picture), why can't producers just take that part of the value chain?

[clever thistle]

I liked Do Not Feed Alligators which is up the road from Arcane.

There is a LaCabra in Manhattan as well and their pastries are delicious. Coffee has been meh in the NY cafes, IMHO.

[clever thistle]

Just up the way is also https://maps.app.goo.gl/2eHy2G3sJ2s17ZBg7, they are a NY institution and a fun spot to visit 🙂

[thorn spoke]

Also like do not feed, and also agree about my NY cafe cup experiences

[clever thistle]

VERY glad I am not the only person. My cups when I was in Copenhagen were delicious tho!

[thorn spoke]

Whatever pressures cafes have that prevent them from slowing down and focusing on good pour over is multipled up there, the rent is crazy

I'm just bringing a gallon of water with me into hyunah next time I'm up there

If that is how that place works anyway

[safe bison]

I’ll stick with this

Jk

[safe bison]

I don’t disagree with you, and I didn’t originally. My point was that I’ve always compared many of the wild co-ferments to infused coffees. Finding out that they were, in fact, infusing coffee with other flavors solidified my opinion. I agree that it is up to the roaster to know what they are selling and to list it on the bags. I also agree that it is not up to us to tell producers what to do; they will do whatever best serves them, and that’s fine.

[fossil canopy]

I agree for the most part.

Food safety and labeling requirements varies a massive amount from place to place and its mostly up to the roaster buying it to make sure they are labeling and marketing it properly. And abiding by any local laws as well as their own moral compass.

The only exception being when a producer is lying or obfuscating that a coffee is infused with additives and then you have a roaster think it has no additives and market it as such.

Then the end consumer could end up with an allergen and everyone up the chain other than the producer didn't know otherwise.

In that context I'd put both most responsibility on the producer but also some on the roaster a bit. Ideally a roaster can keep up with what producers are doing what and or taste if something is off.

[thorn spoke]

To be specific, you found out some of them are infused, depending how on you define infused. There is still co-ferments I assume that are using more traditional fermentation methods

[safe bison]

100%

[clever thistle]

Also very much agree with this. Lying is never excusable, and it is never ok to give someone something without their consent. (ie. mislabeling things and someone gets hurt from consumption)
If it is part of the roaster's labeling responsibilities to list allergens, they must do their due diligence.
random thought What a weird thing for us to be considering, never thought I would get to a space in coffee where allergens might need to be listed on green.

[clever thistle]

When you get a flavor cliff like happens with 'infused' coffee, here meaning artificial/natural flavorants, I think we can tell it isn't something coming from the plant or fermentation protocol.

Additional wild thing to consider... We aren't knocking on the door of Coke asking for ingredient ratios, and so how much does the producer get to protect their 'secret recipe,' outside of disclosing what is 'legally required?'

[thorn spoke]

Yeah designed fermentations can add a lot of value and a desire to protect that process is reasonable

I'm not so sure I could taste the difference between a flavor cliff infusion and some designer fermentations depending on how we define infused

I've definitely tasted some co-ferments that I thought "is this infused or is it not?" Some people just call all co-ferments infusions which obfuscates things further

[safe bison]

Don’t you dare come for my cherry Coke Zero

[fossil canopy]

Yeah it's a weird situation lol. Previously it was assumed that coffee only had coffee in it pre-roast and that's what our coffee labeling laws are assuming too.

But now that it's a common scenario to have additives pre-roasting, I think some procedures need to change to accommodate.

It's totally fine if people like coferments or infused coffees or whatever they may be but it is in antithesis to most of our food regulation laws. They treat green coffee as a raw ingredient so infused while green is almost a loophole in a way for regulation which is problematic.

On a random side note, that reminded me of how booze is even less regulated than food. No ingredients list needed, no abv needed in many situations. Super fucked up to sell a mass produced food with no ingredients list (homemade/small business stuff is a but different ans there should be provisions for imo. The overhead starts to become cumbersome). Let alone a drug without the dose lol.

[clever thistle]

Dude, liquor market is wild. Get's weirder when you explore 'rum,' as I am sure you well know, which isn't really regulated at all.
Did you make something that has ABV? Congrats, you likely made rum.

[fossil canopy]

There's a reason I rarely drink most South American rum lol. So much added sugar.

[zealous hinge]

Sorry, totally missed this! I’m just a boring “whatever bean looks interesting” cortado kind of guy haha

[past zinc]

No worries I wasn't able to back sadly. I'm kind of the same though

[raw sentinel]

Anybody have tried intelligentsia beans? I’m in coconut grove and the salty donut carries them just wondering if their worth trying

[limber stag]

I have and they’re definitely worth trying. It’s a bit more developed for my taste but certainly solid.

[narrow coral]

Does anyone have an ECM Synchronika II?

I'm thinking of getting one to go alongside my Muvna

[past zinc]

Brother someone gave me something like this once. I thought it could be drinkable with a ton of milk and sugar but I don't think I've ever tasted something so vile

[limber stag]

Nope, though I have the ECM puristika +flow though if that’s helpful

[narrow coral]

How do you like it

I keep reading that they're ultra well made and will last for a long time

The Muvna absolutely satisfies my lever desires, but I want something with steam and for use when I have company and end up making back to back to back shots for a crowd

[limber stag]

It’s superb but I don’t use it enough

Puristika doesn’t steam tho

[narrow coral]

yea that's why I'm looking at the Synchronika II, heated group gives it a 6 minute start to brew, and it's got plenty of power for steam

[past zinc]

Wow that ECM is beautiful

[narrow coral]

yea and they have a 0% deal with free flow control until Monday

[narrow coral]

I think I'm gonna buy one

[past zinc]

My ~15 year old Silvia still makes great shots. IF I had something worse I'd def be getting the itch.

Gonna refurb a car soon so the mental energy is there

[past zinc]

Please give us a review!

[narrow coral]

I want a pump machine to go with my Muvna...

and I think this may be it

[past zinc]

Oh my god that's gorgeous

[narrow coral]

yea the espresso bar is gonna be pretty sweet once it's done

[slim ridge]

Bringing 30g of Big Sur natty Kenyan and 15g of scenery Mario honey. Then thankfully EL Hugo.

[past zinc]

Just want to add: I am very much tentative, but currently plan to go

[errant geyser]

I’m definitely bringing some Norml stuff. Maybe a bag of Sunbear Pepe Jijon. I’ll also bring whatever I pick up while I’m in Europe

[clever thistle]

I have some goodies stashed away already. ☺️. I can bring either Aviary Empirical or BluWater (Liquid rock) in a 5-gal again.

[narrow coral]

So I pulled the trigger on it, I'll let you guys know how it is when it gets here.

[past zinc]

Yay!

Do you have a semi auto machine now? Or just the manual one

[narrow coral]

Just the manual, I had a Turin Legato V2 that I gaggimated out, but it tested over 15PBB for lead, so I returned it to Espresso Outlet so they could have it lab tested.

[limber stag]

What made you think to test for lead?

[narrow coral]

I saw a post here on EAF where someone else said theirs tested high after seeing a post on reddit where someone else said the same thing that prompted them to do the same.

So I posted my results here too, someone who had just bought a wendougee Data apparently also had theirs test over 15PBB...

That would be a much more hurtful turn of events...the Turin at least wasn't that expensive..

[limber stag]

Holy smokes that’s scary

Feels like PSA material

I’m sure not many people think about this or come across the material that would even suggest this should be checked

[narrow coral]

The ECMs use lead free brass according to their stuff, and the group head is internally plated too so no direct brass contact with water. I found lead testing online from ECM units that show essentially no increase.

[limber stag]

Testing key. I kind of wonder about other accessories too…

[past zinc]

I've seen a lot of lead testing content lately. Makes me wonder how many daily interactions have lead

[limber stag]

Testing is good, I bought a kit from amazon

As a person selling metal products, I like to look for others statements indicating quality/materials/testing and assume the worst if it doesn’t exist or isn’t readily available

https://goodswitch.coffee/blogs/owners-manual/materials-and-construction

[past zinc]

That's a good idea. Im pretty distrustful of stuff from Amazon in general though. Is there a way to test it? I can't imagine they would include a lead sample lol

[limber stag]

Oh no I’m saying it’s a literal lead testing kit from Amazon to test other products

https://a.co/d/0i7V5tXQ

For example

[past zinc]

Yeah that's what I thought, I meant I'd be wary if the kit itself and would want to test it with a known positive/negatice

[limber stag]

Oh sure makes sense

[past zinc]

Let me just order a lead testing kit testing kit...

[limber stag]

Just find some real lead

[past zinc]

If the videos I've seen are real, you can just go to hobby lobby and grab basically any plate

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[narrow coral]

Lead contamination is no joke. That was the source of the whole issue with Flint Michigan water.

[narrow coral]

Anyone ever use one of these weber workshops spring clean things? I just saw an insta for it, and I totally needed one.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DV278u1tuCH/

[limber stag]

Yea, had and sold it

I’m encouraging everyone to bring any coffee related accessories/equipment they’d like to rehome.

If there’s enough interest we can do a swap/sale/trade or something comparable if there’s enough interest.

Should we add a column for items that fall into this category?
For yes
For no
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[soft forge]

I really want to be there but I’ll have to drag my 11 year old that day so it’s debatable if I want to do that lol

[limber stag]

It’s a kid friendly event but not a lot of kids attend historically. My kids have come for a few mins only at each one - the clubhouse has the playground (it’s small) and good for prob usually 30-60mins depending

[past zinc]

My 2 year old would break things but I imagine an 11 year old would be fine, just bored lol

[soft forge]

Yeah he would be fine but prob bored lol. He does like when I make him coffee

[narrow coral]

Yea, I'm bummed I can't make it this time, but Sundays are tough for me, next meetup will have to be a Saturday.

I also just finished putting my wall and ceiling back together, the drywall compound is drying now before paint, but I've got enough power to run several roasters at the same time, and once the Duo is ready to buy, I'm gonna pull the trigger on that so I'll have ventilation as well as a 200g- 2 pound fluid bed for us to mess around with. Sadly it got pushed back a couple of weeks due to a change with the loft motor...

[limber stag]

In an ideal world, my 2 year old can play with your 2 year old so no one breaks anything!

[limber stag]

I’m down for a Saturday meetup next time too- prob not too early to evaluate dates with summer around the corner.

7/11 would be cool

I wonder how July looks for most- informal just curious before I try to lock in date @ clubhouse.

7/11
7/18
7/25

vote for all that work

also Saturday will give me time to reset my coffee bar before the week resumes- sundays are kinda hectic and could use the day to reorient

Totally unrelated, I think there’s still enough time. Anyone interested in getting in on a Big Sur order?

[past zinc]

They'll just break 2x the stuff lmao. I don't plan on bringing him this time but maybe a parent child meetup would be a good idea lol

[narrow coral]

I vote yes on all 3?

[limber stag]

Do the emojis to vote!

[narrow coral]

I can't do them until someone else does

[limber stag]

Gotcha - all set

[fossil canopy]

yes please I really want some of the new big sur eths

[limber stag]

Ok sweet I’m driving home from st Pete shortly, dm me what you’d like me to add

[fossil canopy]

Need to check my calender and evaluate before I vote, I have some plans in a July I'll need to work around.

[errant geyser]

👀 👀 dming

[limber stag]

Same here tbh

[limber stag]

Last call for Big Sur!

[limber stag]

Order is in! 🙏

[limber stag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OXORapidBrewer/s/Zav9UhKIFr @fossil canopy have you seen this?

[past zinc]

Oh my goodness

[fossil canopy]

Holy shit lol. That's so much work and overkill to do a relatively simple thing otherwise (pumping it a couple times lol). It's really cool though.

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/we-should-try-it-brian-marlow-smoked-reb-bbq-lets-test-it-out-we-should-give-it-a-shot-gif-14247780804127333846

[errant geyser]

I ordered an A4Z. Hopefully it gets here in time for the meet up

[slim ridge]

Welcome to try mine, but yours should arrive by then

[safe bison]

Are we still meeting up on the 17th? What time is it again? Thx!

[slim ridge]

Yes to the 17th and I think setup is as early 8 am?

[errant geyser]

That’s what I’m planning on

[safe bison]

Thank you ☺️

[past zinc]

Around how long do y'all stay for? I couldn't get there till at least 9

[fossil canopy]

Usually pretty long. Some people come and go after a bit but usually a few of us are nerding out until the afternoon lol.

[slim ridge]

I will only stay for a few hours, got a gender reveal to attend at 4

[fossil canopy]

Smh choosing friends/family over a 16th cup of coffee?

[errant geyser]

just go the next day; it’ll still be a reveal for you🤦‍♂️

can’t believe they’d plan a gender reveal on the same day as the florida meetup

[past zinc]

It's FL so I assume we'll hear the explosion from the meetup

[limber stag]

today I realized @fossil canopy is purple! 🍇

[limber stag]

yea, let’s say 830 to be safe but I’ll likely be around the corner

[fossil canopy]

I didn't fly under the radar very long before they got me

[fossil cobalt]

Speaking of……

When would you recommend cracking open the Salomon Estela?

[fossil canopy]

I think the roast day for thay first drop was about a month ago. It probably won't start opening up fully for a couple weeks but feel free to go ahead and try it.

I personally like to brew coffee a bit early and try once every week or two as it ages and evolves.

[uneven ravine]

That's because you have more than 100g 🙂

You mentioned you brew on Sworks; have you tried Pulsar? It should make fairly similar brews

[fossil canopy]

I do 15g doses so that's 1 10g + 6 15g brews. I don't intentionally try to taste on specific days but usually It would be something like this:

week 1 (10g test brew)
week 4
week 6
week 7
week 8
week 9
week 10

If you're looking to drink most of it at or near peak, then I'd start at 5-6 weeks minimum for the natural and 6-7 minimum for the washed ones. I've had my best brews of some of my coffees at 8-12 though.

[uneven ravine]

Yeah, this is why they are all still resting.

I also feel like after a subpar test brew my brain starts playing with me, and I keep looking for bad stuff. That's another reason why I try to brew the first cup near peak

[fossil canopy]

Ahh yeah that makes sense. I sometimes coffee from other roasters I'm disappointed by and then when it opens up I'm like "oh thats what it's supposed to taste like".

Since I'm always drinking my coffee right off roast and over the first few weeks to get tasting notes and dial in roasts, I subconsciously filter out a lot of the flavors that age out I think.

Which bags did you grab?

[uneven ravine]

All four!

Yeah, filtering out the bad stuff is a skill issue on my side for sure.
But also since I have 100g of each, I'd prefer to not have to filter out anything 🙂

[fossil canopy]

Oh that's awesome! Definitely let me know what you think when you try them I'd love to hear.

Oh also I just realize I forgot to reply about the pulsar. I haven't used one before but I'd imagine you can get pretty similar results out of it since I use the Sworks very similar to a pulsar. Low bypass + melodrip + valve. The only issue I'd see is that the bed depth would be really shallow compared to the Sworks which is really narrow compared to most brewers which the pulsar is the opposite. Not sure how big of a deal that would be but otherwise should be similar.

[uneven ravine]

I have the Mini too

It should be very similar to Sworks in bed depth

[fossil canopy]

I think my brain is just wired weird as a roaster lol. I enjoy the "journey" more than the peak sometimes. Every once and a while I get mad I didn't rest long enough or use a certain recipe/dial in when it's the last cup.

[fossil canopy]

Yeah that should work well! I wrote out my Sworks recipe I think in this chat, let me see if I can find it. You might be able to adapt it to the pulsar mini and see how it goes.

[fossil canopy]

#1228117431889826036 message

Here is the recipe in the last few months my grind size has shift a hair coarser, brew time down a few seconds, and temperature down ~1C. Otherwise I'm still brewing the same.

[uneven ravine]

I just start blaming myself for botching the brew, which sometimes results in weird experiments and loss of more beans 🙂

I waited for 45 days with my latest order of Shoebox and it was so much more fun to drink

Your beans are roasted on 4/10, so I guess 2-3 more weeks

[fossil canopy]

Yeah winter Shoebox was reaaaaally light. I have some 3+ months old I'm in no rush to drink as they still are resting a bit lol. They taste good but definitely are on the extreme end of things and require a bit of thought with rest + brewing

[uneven ravine]

The cool thing about Pulsar is that it is fairly easy to scale up from Mini to Regular, and about 25% of my brews are two cups

And I am absolutely sharing your coffee with my wife 🙂

[fossil canopy]

That's cool! I usually do my big 30g cups in a v60 or switch with melodrip, big Sworks would be cool.

I wish my Wife liked my coffee lmao. She likes it better than most UL but she just doesn't drink coffee straight. The best I've done is converted her to medium roasts or mid-light coferments.

[uneven ravine]

Coferments are great 🙂

I also use V60 a lot for two cups. Rarely Origami with wave filters, but lately I use the Pulsar a lot and frankly it works really well with ULs

[fossil canopy]

They're too much for personally, they can be so intense. My wife had the hydrangea strawberry one I got off of @limber stag and I could smell it across the house every time the bag opened let alone was brewed lmao. I made my wife use a dedicated portafilter and grinder because it's so strong.

[narrow coral]

Bro's got a nose like a bloodhound 🙂

[fossil canopy]

Yeah the low agitation/low byass type brews really works well for a lot of UL coffee. some it works a bit less well for but I've been able to get good brews out of most coffee at least.

[narrow coral]

An Aeropress with a filter sandwich is awesome for those too.
paper-metal-paper filters
Comes out super clear

[fossil canopy]

I smell things across the house constantly and it pisses my wife off lol. Dish in the sink, cat uses litterbox, bath product or lotion used, etc. It's both a blessing and a curse having intense senses. mostly a curse in day to day life tbh

[narrow coral]

yea, 20 year old me working construction and inhaling chemicals while working in poorly ventilated areas did enough damage to my nose that my sense of smell is muted.

Lucky I never got into putting shit into my nose for fun, I'd have no sense of smell at all if I had.

[fossil canopy]

I put Flonase and antihistamine into my nose every morning for my mild but constant allergies but that helps my smell not hurts lmao

[uneven ravine]

You were created to become a UL roaster 🙂

[clever thistle]

I have something for the meet, again, similar to this 🤣

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-an-aroma-stinks-smells-bad-gross-smelly-gif-15844913

[past zinc]

Roasting day!

[narrow coral]

Does that just exhaust into your celing or does that go outside?

[past zinc]

It goes into the ceiling, but there is a decent gap between the exhaust and the attic

This is my dad's and his house. He doesn't seem concerned

[narrow coral]

I'm trying to be patient while Coffee Crafters gets the Duo to market...

but it's so damn hard...

[past zinc]

I might be able to talk him into letting someone else use it

[limber stag]

Does anyone going to the meetup have use for a enclosed black 6U server rack?

[past zinc]

Send pic

Are all coffee guys tech nerds too?

[past zinc]

Small chance my brother will

I'll ask

[past zinc]

$?

Brother just graduated and is about to move out

[limber stag]

A gift to your brother!

[limber stag]

Prob not all, but @narrow coral is prob king nerd over here

[narrow coral]

Gotta pay the bills somehow 🙂

[past zinc]

I'll take it!

[past zinc]

He might like you more than he likes me now

[errant geyser]

I use arch

btw

[past zinc]

Oh god is everyone here me

Anyone here play Tarkov

[errant geyser]

Marathon is my calling

Tarkov didn’t get along with me. I have a Windows dual boot specifically for it

[past zinc]

I thought about getting into it but none of my friends did. I was a big destiny guy back in the day.

Arc raiders didn't do it for me but I played with friends

[errant geyser]

I was a huge destiny guy until around Lightfall dropped; then I went to The Finals

Arc wasn’t it imo. Too casual

I’d play Marathon with you

[limber stag]

You got it man!

[past zinc]

The finals is fun but I feel like I have to do a line to keep up

[past zinc]

I will let you know! I'm glad it's more hardcore than arc. That game was kind of boring for me

[errant geyser]

I stopped playing a lot when Marathon dropped

Marathon is hella sweaty

I still play Finals when my ranked team needs me

[past zinc]

Good. Tarkov raised the hardcore bar for me. It's definitely an acquired taste

[errant geyser]

I know a lot of Tarkov guys went to Marathon

Bungie gunplay/abilities are hard to beat

[past zinc]

Yeah definitely. Destiny ran my life though college

[errant geyser]

3rd favourite game for me (:

Shadowkeep was the bomb era

Or maybe BA

[past zinc]

BA?

[errant geyser]

Black Armoury

[past zinc]

OH

I mostly did d1

[errant geyser]

Also the bomb

[past zinc]

Trials was my first true love

[errant geyser]

Trials was the best freelancing job I ever had

[past zinc]

Did you really

That's amazing

[errant geyser]

I made bank on a good weekend doing trials carries/recovs

$20-$40 for a 30 minute flawless

[past zinc]

That's awesome

Did you use the Elo trackers?

[errant geyser]

yeah

[past zinc]

How high were you? I think I sat in the 1850 range?

[errant geyser]

like 2700-2900 ish

for trials at least

[past zinc]

Jesus

Were you on PC?

[errant geyser]

console for a while and then swapped to pc at some point. Controller the whole time though

[past zinc]

You're insane damn

[errant geyser]

Used to be (: I haven’t played in over 3 years though

I had a crazy trials weekend one time. I’m trying to find the trials report screenshot of it

[errant geyser]

This is the best screencap I can find

[past zinc]

Dude that is sick

Flawless a few times, but nothing of that level

Those guns don't even look mildly familiar LOL

Is that d2?

Mostly ran a last extremity with the chaperone secondary

[errant geyser]

yep d2

[errant geyser]

that’s how I feel when I look at the game nowadays

[past zinc]

Same

[errant geyser]

I don’t think I can boot D1 up on pc unfortunately. I think there are still some people playing it

[past zinc]

Woah really?

I know you can do some D1 stuff in d2

I did atheon recently

It felt so good

[errant geyser]

Some stuff got remastered yeah

[past zinc]

I want to do crotas end

[errant geyser]

I think that was also remastered? I’m not sure

[past zinc]

I hope so

[errant geyser]

I think the game’s gone a bit downhill in the past 3 years so I haven’t touched it

I really only cared about pvp anyway; that’s why I’m on Marathon and The Finals now

[past zinc]

You do any cs/Valorant?

Those mostly satisfy my shoot itch

[errant geyser]

I’m not really big on the tactical shooters unfortunately. I gave them both a try. Valorant was fun but felt like it was getting repetitive after a bit

Not really the kind of gunplay I like either. Titanfall scratches the itch too

[past zinc]

Yeah that makes sense. It's a very specific type

[errant geyser]

movement shooters are my calling

Are you mostly on Tarkov then?

[past zinc]

Right now yeah. Tarkov, friendship stuff, and looking for a good survival crafter mostly

I want to play some Finals though, I sent you a friend request

[errant geyser]

Those genres are outside my knowledge unfortunately. I’d be down to run some Finals though. Shot you a steam friend request

I admire those who can play Tarkov because it looks to me like a horror game and sometimes you see the person before they kill you

[clever thistle]

I'm looking for an XBloom if anyone locally (going) has one they're selling. Have an Aiden or cash for it.

[past zinc]

Just wear a diaper and it's fine

[past zinc]

Didn't know my discord had a link to my steam profile, and I was wildly impressed with you for a second LOL

[clever thistle]

This happened to me the other day 😉

[fossil canopy]

@slim ridge I have a Kinini village OTL roast I'm bringing to the meetup that I think you'll like.

I didn't love this lot compared to last years so I'm not selling it but this roast is kinda hilarious. It ran off on me and was a comically fast roast. Its pretty much in "hyperlight" territory yet very little grain or peanut. kinda just straight tea

[slim ridge]

This sounds hype

[narrow coral]

Oh that sounds awesome! not sure how much you have but if you have more than a tiny amount save me a little bag!!

[fossil canopy]

Honestly the most drinkable 4:40 roast I've ever had lol

[narrow coral]

I can't wait until you roast the Sofia dude

You gotta do some of that and hand it out, I think i sent you like a pound of it

it's just stellar

[fossil canopy]

only ~90g after weight loss, sorting, 10g taste test but I'll hold some for you! what dose size do you usually brew.

[narrow coral]

I rarely do pourovers so if you have a good recipe I'll make it to that

My "normal" is a 32g dose americano 🙂 so I probably shouldn't make it like that

[fossil canopy]

Yeah idk if this is the best coffee for espresso it's just so beyond extremely light lol. Turbo or soup would just be straight water

[narrow coral]

I'll do it on my switch

[fossil canopy]

Yeah that would work perfectly

[past zinc]

Meetup is Saturday right?

[slim ridge]

Sunday

[past zinc]

Oh thanks. I'm changing myself to unlikely 🙁

[narrow coral]

Man, shitty Nimbot printer app changes. You can't save history of more than 10 local prints now unless you sign in and agree to let them read what you're printing.

Anyone have any other convenient printer recommendations?

[errant geyser]

I’m not sure if any of these work well but it might worth checking out

https://github.com/MultiMote/niimblue?tab=readme-ov-file

https://github.com/labbots/NiimPrintX

[clever thistle]

nope, I just sign in. 🙂

[limber stag]

was bummed by this update, realized it happened last week. I am not too concerned about them reading but completely understand the concern. Mostly because I'm just printing boring coffee labels. In principle, def not a fan and also resent the fact it was an included feature when i bought the harware 😐

[narrow coral]

It's about the principal, them sucking your data in so they can sell it to AI companies to make a second profit stream without any recompense to you is something I just don't support.

I use it to make coffee labels, but also mailing labels with people's addresses on them, etc

I just think it means I'm gonna suck it up and buy a real thermal printer I can drive with my PC.

If I find something and if the Nimbot labels don't fit LMK and I'll give you what I have leftover

I bought a couple boxes of them

[limber stag]

I have one and like it

[limber stag]

Oh blast! Ok - any chance you wanna swing by sometime Saturday to pick up the rack?

[past zinc]

so the reason is that i'm actually out of town friday-saturday and don't want to leave my wife with my son another day lol. But i can definitely pick the rack up another day, almost certainly the next weekend..

I can also give my brother your contact info 🙂

[limber stag]

i'm not available next weekend but if he's around early this afternoon or at some point tmrw can make something happen

[clever thistle]

sure, but anyone with social media, at all, is already letting them do this. It's a pick your battles situation for me :-). What this company is going to do with my data, is likely a lot less harmful than something like my Netflix data (gathering behavior and psychographics).

[narrow coral]

I care way less about coffee bean labels than I do mailing addresses for the packages I send at the post office

Because that's got PII in it

[clever thistle]

we all have different levels of personal data security we protect :-), Respect.

[narrow coral]

yup

I work in a heavily compliance impacted industry, the rules for some of that shit are crazyballs

[clever thistle]

for sure, same :-). Mine is more around physical security, but same.

[narrow coral]

and penalties for breaking them are potentially bankruptable

[clever thistle]

possible if the company is small enough, larger corporations it is an operating expense. Which is insane. Similar to my world where recalls can and will happen. Normally breaks the smaller firms, and larger ones are just insulated.

Turns out, companies really do get too big to fail.

[narrow coral]

I suppose, although depending on how egregious the violation is, if you for example violate ITAR rules, it's like a decade in prison for a willful violation, not just the 8-10 figure fines you'll also get. That's not even close to the level of selling secrets to foreign countries, just willfully violating the data access and separation rules.

[clever thistle]

Don't ITAR violations usually fall into treason?

don't fuck with that... No sir

[fossil canopy]

I avoid these issues by just not really talking about work lmao. A bit awkward checking to see if someone's a US citizen before talking about something that is public knowledge but still migjt be technically ITAR or under some information control designation.

I can't do anything work related on any non work devices anyways so no worries about violating anything with a thermal printer fortunately. Every piece of software, every single piece of hardware that interacts with your computer has to be whitelisted pretty much.

Realllllly annoying when you're trying to do your job and need stuff but I get it

[narrow coral]

Yea same, we're 100% work related on company hardware. Thankfully they finally capitulated to our push for a walled garden approach to all ITAR stuff. Access is through zero trusted infrastructure without export capacity except through very specific and controlled channels

I'm just glad I don't have to read what's in the data, that seems like a headache not worth having.

I just get to build the systems that house it, and make it a big pain in the ass for our users to connect 🙂

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can-relate-to-this-david-shrink-relate-i-feel-you-gif-11617498

[past zinc]

i sent you a friend request. I'll start a chat between us and hopefully we can coordinate something. I don't want to make this difficult for you.

[fossil canopy]

Yeah not a great feeling having a lifelong contract hanging over your head but it is what it is I guess.

In theory it's fine unless it's used by bad actors up top to control or threaten you which I'm definitely not concerned about at all

[past zinc]

man people are way to casual with doing work stuff on personal devices. I don't let ANYTHING cross that gap

[narrow coral]

Yea after a lifetime in IT, separate physical devices is the only answer.

it boggles my mind the amount of personal crap some of our employees do on their work machines simply based on the requests they put in for us to change things to allow some random crap to work

Today we got asked to enable Spotify app on work laptops in our app control policies...

like no bruh, we aren't gonna do that.

[past zinc]

LMAO

can't blame them for asking

during covid we went remote, and they had to send an email out begging people to stop using spotify and youtube on the VPN

[narrow coral]

Yea same, that's why it's disabled

LOL

we don't use a split tunnel due to what we do

[past zinc]

I probably have a nicer WFH setup than most people i work with but i just...use my own PC or phone for that lol

[narrow coral]

The only thing they provide me is a laptop, and in all fairness it's a really nice rig

They just gave us fully loaded Dell Pro Max 16's

i swear our boss just clicked every upgrade box he could find on the website and said, ok give me 10 of those

[past zinc]

I love your boss

I just got a new work laptop. It's actually got a decent new Intel CPU and 32gb of ram. I was a little surprised with the ram

Still slow AF with all the security stuff on it but it's nice

[narrow coral]

yea he's almost retired so he's trying to hook us up before he bails

him and the CTO are like 2 years out of retirement, and have been friends for like 20 years, so anything we want that we can even almost sort of make a semi legitimate ask for gets rubber stamped...

[past zinc]

Man that's awesome

Hopefully the next round of bosses is good

[narrow coral]

I hope so

But I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts. 🙂

[glass patio]

Was just peaking in here since I'll be in pensacola for ~12 weeks for work, but we aren't even supposed to say our job title(s) if possible since it's technically CUI at my work ☠️ , let alone talk about anything.

[past zinc]

It's just easier than being guarded about what you say. Can't slip up if you never walk.

[glass patio]

For sure, until you are talking to a coworker or employee and have to remember what they are read into 😅☠️

If anyone has recommendations around Pensacola, or on the way driving down I'll happily take them 🫶

[fossil canopy]

So uhhhhh, I just went to count up how much coffee I'm bringing to the meetup and it's like 40+ sample bags lmao. Didn't realize I went that crazy, doing some production roasting is turning me into coffee machine.

Also I decided to bring samples of a coffee from the next release along with all the other fun stuff. It's still being profiled but it's 90% there just needs that last little bit of refinement. It's a bit of a fan favorite type coffee I think for many people, acidic, juicy, and floral pink bourbon. It has some held in cherry notes, mostly enough to make it super juicy but not enough to be notably funky.

[safe bison]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYWKOF0OBCw/?igsh=ZjltdGdscmNhNHox

Someone sent this to me this morning

[fossil cobalt]

Anything we still need for tomorrow? I'll be there, gonna put myself on the spreadsheet but not sure if I have anything to bring. 🤣

Definitely will be bringing some coffee

[slim ridge]

I am bringing an extra cup, carafe, and coffees.

[limber stag]

Cup, carafe and beans!

[errant geyser]

Is anyone bringing water? Not just lotus drops and whatnot?

[fossil canopy]

Usually @clever thistle brings a 5 gallon jug of Aviary water that a lot of us use.

I typically stick with my normal water to not throw off my recipes but I just ran out of distilled and the closest store was out . Might go searching later or just borrow water

[clever thistle]

Yeah I'll have 5gal Aviary and 2gal DI for people to mix up.

I get it from work ☺️

[errant geyser]

Oh sick. We’re covered then

[limber stag]

Stoked to have you
Here’s the sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?usp=drivesdk

@safe bison and @raw sentinel are yall able to make it? Planning table layouts

[raw sentinel]

I can’t! 😭 family emergency and I have to pick up my hubby from the airport I meant to tell you sooner

[fossil cobalt]

I'm on the sheet 🤙

Anybody have interest in a ceramic mugen switch?

[limber stag]

Aww sorry to hear it and hope fam emergency resolves ok. Hopefully you can make the next one!

[fossil cobalt]

Also-- I have a sworks dripper, plastic 01 v60 and ceramic kalita (mino-yaki i think it's called), any interest in using those in particular? It looks like y'all are pretty much set with drippers but happy to bring any I've got if there's interest.

NeckPro is the sworks dripper expert, but in case we need two.... 🤣

[limber stag]

Sweet! Maybe good to bring sworks if we want to do A/B stuff

I have a few switches too but not sure how many side by sides we want to do

[fossil cobalt]

Dope, I'll pack the sworks then

No lack of kettles or scales looks like? I can bring mine otherwise

[limber stag]

Couldn’t hurt, if it’s easy enough to pack - as a just in case. I think we should be ok though

[fossil canopy]

2 Sworks might actually be super good for AB on grinders and stuff since we can use the valve to tweak brew times in case one grinder draws down way faster at a similar grind size or something.

[soft forge]

Remind me how late yall think you’ll be hanging out

[limber stag]

Prob till 12 or 1 usually

[fossil canopy]

Oh here is the final coffee list of coffees I roasted I'm bringing tomorrow.

@narrow coral Choose a few for me to send you since you won't make it, I'm sure you'll want some of roasts of the green you sent and then I can send a few others too.

[narrow coral]

I definitely wanna try some of that oops too Juicy and if you have some left over the Meryl Leon and Solomon Estela.

Yea, send me like 30g of anything you think came out really awesome of what I sent ya too! I'll make a couple 15g pourovers with them and compare!!

Did you roast the Candy Blast Decaf yet?

[fossil canopy]

I haven't tried the greens that just came in yet, just the first ones you sent.

[narrow coral]

How did the Sofia come out?

That's one of my favorites for sure

[fossil canopy]

Haven't tried that one yet either, it was in the second bag of greens you sent me.

Is it ok if I do 15g of the Salomon? That one is ~5 weeks rested so I may want to take 15g to brew for people tomorrow. I can send some of something else as consolation lol.

Also just realized I missed a label, one more coffee.

[limber stag]

If you can, would it be possible for a few people to bring a surge protector outlet strip?

[limber stag]

Bumping bc bean 🫘 talk

Vote here people

[safe bison]

Hey! I’ll be there to hang out & drink brews but I don’t need a table to set up at. Running errands in the morning so I’m not bringing my stuff. Will bring a cup though!

I’ll probably get there around 9-9:30!

Bringing my wife Amanda! She loves coffee too

[safe bison]

I can bring one

[limber stag]

Fantastic! Excited to see you again and meet Amanda

[safe bison]

Do we need any extra kettles or carafes? I can bring that also

[limber stag]

Should be all set! We may or may not have food provisions so I planned to see who’s interested in pizza when we get closer to noon

Actually if you don’t mind bringing kettles and we can use if needed?

Only things I think we can use but didn’t account for explicitly are filters, knock boxes and towels

[clever thistle]

Totally reasonable amount of stuff

[thorn spoke]

Have fun everybody, gonna make one of these one day, seems I have terrible luck and every one so far something comes up that prohibits me from attending

Definitely having fomo and I'll be there in spirit

[vapid moat]

I’m bringing a power strip

[fossil canopy]

Today's treats

[safe bison]

Hey guys, I’m probably gonna get there closer to 10 o’clock if that’s OK sorry for running late!!!

[past zinc]

Def will not make it. Post lots of pictures! Looks like it'll be sick

[narrow coral]

Sure! Send me whatever you think would be fun to try! Make sure that you have stuff for others too! This is just a hobby for me, I just wanted to see what you thought of some of the beans that were also fun for me, not a trade thing!

[errant geyser]

Thank you for hosting @limber stag! I had a great time

[fossil canopy]

I did end up splitting the bag, and I'm glad I did because it was super good, it aged pretty well so far. Let me know if you need a recipe sicne youll only have one dose of it.

I went ahead and grabbed one of the (natural? Idk lol) Savage gesha for you to make up for that. I'll send you them along with maybe some green and stuff. I'll dm you before I send them out sometime this week!

[narrow coral]

I definitely want recipes! I'm normally espresso so if you have something that is awesome for pour over, it'll give me a place to start!

[fossil canopy]

Yeah I'll send some recipes and turbo or soup style espresso is good with my roasts too imo. Just slightly more risky with dial and not a lot of doses but still more forgiving than trad espresso

[past zinc]

Sad I didn't get to make it this time. Definitely hoping to go next time.

[narrow coral]

I'm happy to make them on my switch if you've got a dialed in recipe

[fossil canopy]

I haven't used my switch for 15g brews in a bit but I think i can come up with soemthing decent with a combination of my Sworks brew using the valve and my V60 recipe.

[narrow coral]

And what do you think, ULF or Lab Sweets for those?

[fossil canopy]

Thanks everyone, I had an awesome time! A lot of good coffee and kind people.

These always end up being one of the highlights of my year, it's always a such a treat to break up a monotonous few months of work grind and go crazy nerding out for the better part of a day.

[fossil canopy]

ULF almost for sure I'd imagine. I dial roasts with high clarity burrs so that probably is the best to represent it imo. Also labsweets will sort of muddy the finish and slow down brew times too much imo.

Might be good on the natural though idk

[limber stag]

I had a blast and thank you everyone for helping to make the event really special. Already looking forward to the next one, seriously.

Please feel free to share images here or on your preferred social media platform. Would be sweet if you could invite both GoodSwitch and EAFloridah accounts as collaborators on IG if posting there.

Here are a few of the photos from the earlier

Epic throw down

[clever thistle]

Thank you for being an awesome host @limber stag both setting up and tearing down for everyone. 🫶
It's always an amazing time and somehow the quality of coffee continues to escalate.
Three favorite coffees:
Big Sur Kenya Natty
Scenery - Washed (can't remember)
Washed Peru - maybe H&S?

@solar lark

[fossil canopy]

We had a bunch of Peru gesha/sl9 in a row.

These are the ones I remember at least:
Exposure Therapy La Chiramoya
H&S Roger x Eli
Scenery Yulisa
Thankfully SL9

All insanely good imo

[clever thistle]

It was that thankfully, really enjoyed that.

[fossil canopy]

And agreed the natty kenya was wild, definitely a highlight

[fossil cobalt]

My highlight coffee from today

I’m gonna be ALL OVER that drop once it comes out

[fossil canopy]

That's insane there was so much good coffee today that's a wild compliment. Literally made my day (as if it wasn't already such a good day!!!!).

[fossil cobalt]

There was a sort of creamy white-sugar-esque note to it that I LOVE. Like frosting or marshmallow or something. Incredible coffee

[fossil canopy]

There was definitely a sugary thing that is sort of represented by the Rainier cherry and lemonade notes but even I was caught off guard by the intensity of it in that brew.

How they brewed it made it 10x stronger. Wild.

[fossil cobalt]

I think it was brewed on the mugen! I'll bet it'd shine on sworks with negotiated filters too

[soft forge]

Super bummed I missed it again

[limber stag]

We’ll have another one before too long!

Sticking to quarterly means next one could be as early July, though I could be convinced that we need one in late June.

Otherwise, 7/4 falls on a Saturday and I wonder if doing 7/3 or 7/4 even makes sense, as opposed to 7/11 or … waiting for Aug?

[past zinc]

July 4th weekend would probably be tough for a lot of people. Dont see why 7/11 wouldnt work though

[solar lark]

Sorry for the spam I have no clue a better way to send pictures in discord

[slim ridge]

Love to see it

[soft forge]

What the heck is that last brewer

[fossil canopy]

First couple weeks of July might be tough for me. Birthday on the 4th and I imagine many will have plans (actually that'd be a sick birthday now that I think about it????) and wedding anniversary the next week.

[fossil canopy]

I forget what it was called but @clever thistle brewed with it I think. It's some weird siphon-ish thing that he said there is only 50 of in the world?

[clever thistle]

It's a Dragon Brewer. Invented by Todd Carmichael (La Colombe).

Enter The Dragon: Todd Carmichael's New Coffee Brewer Is Outrageous (And Just Might Work) | Sprudge Coffee https://share.google/wiAbt9LJBtadqTnnl

Siphon*

[slim ridge]

https://img.gg/Tw929AR link with the photos I took, not my best, but some good stuff

[fossil cobalt]

Awesome pics!!!

[slim ridge]

Ty!

[safe bison]

Yea! These are great @slim ridge

[safe bison]

Love these too!!

[slim ridge]

I will def level up by next time, but ty guys

[clever thistle]

Thank you @slim ridge and @solar lark for the pics!!! It's the thing I always neglect 🫶.
My two photos and one video from the day 😂
@fossil canopy please thank Meagan, that cupcake was insane! The frosting was 🤌 Nina, "Please tell her we'd like to place an order." 😂

[fossil canopy]

She said let her know if you ever want anything you don't have to pay, she likes baking for fun lol.

[slim ridge]

Better than my photo of the deer and yea, those cupcakes are ridiculous (good way)

[safe bison]

I regret not taking any Cupcakes home

[fossil canopy]

@solar lark @slim ridge

Do you all mind if I use any of your pictures in social media post(s)? I'll tag/credit for them

[slim ridge]

Anything I shared in that link is free to use. Idc about credits and stuff

[solar lark]

You’re 100% welcome to use any picture

[raw sentinel]

Man that looked like such a good time - I would have loved to play with those grinders

And have one of yall lovely ppl brew me a cup! See what I need to work on haha

[past zinc]

I thought the same, but the answer would be everything lmao

[raw sentinel]

For real! It would be much needed education

[clever thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/this-proved-to-be-a-mistake-lance-geiger--k01KS0XJH4K87NA1S9M4RK4PZYT

[past zinc]

Can someone tell me about these cupcakes

[errant geyser]

better than the coffee tbh

[fossil cobalt]

@clever thistle and/or @solar lark can yall send over the brew-over-ice recipe you use? 👀

[solar lark]

Oh definitely just a second.

Closed bloom till like :30, closed second till like 1:30ish

@clever thistle will definitely have a more in depth explanation but this is his shared recipe.

[past zinc]

Anyone in here have a bean seeker?

[limber stag]

i don't have the bean seeker but rly like ORB for cold brew

[past zinc]

I impulse bought one on my birthday a while ago and I was hoping somebody could tell me how to use it lol

I've made some decent stuff on it but nothing crazy

[clever thistle]

by slightly finer, I am like 50-100 micron finer.

so maybe between Aeropress and V60

Aeropress is also a SOLID option for iced coffee.

I favor heavily processed coffee (think infused or co-ferments) so that dilution actually moves you closer to drinkable 😉

[solar lark]

I also stick to processed and co fermented coffees when brewing over ice for this exact reason

[narrow coral]

Aeropress is a SOLID option all the time. 🙂

Filter Sandwich... paper metal paper FTW

[narrow coral]

Yea some of those co-ferments were just too much for a heavy dose. That peach stuff had me breaking out the single basket for an Americano...

[fossil cobalt]

Whereabouts would that be on a ZP6 you think?

[errant geyser]

probably about 5-8 clicks finer than what you normally do

At least that’s probably what I’d do

each click is about 22 microns on the zp6 for reference

[clever thistle]

I would start with 5 clicks.
This recipe was originally designed to be used with a peach co-ferment (I am pretty sure it was a B&W coffee from Norena) and showed up like Snapple peach tea. I would updose if the coffee was more soluble (more developed roast, more processing, ect).
Additionally it was designed to be used on a Switch style brewer with 2 30-second steeps.
With 20g dose something akin to:
Closed bloom (60g) for 40 seconds- open to drain
Close - pour half remaining weight (70g)- 30 second steep - open
Close when almost dry - Pour other half (70g) - 30 second steep - open
I would brew over the 1/3 weight in ice (100g) to cool
Then serve over a LARGE ice cube since you are done diluting.

[fossil cobalt]

That is awesome

I am out of coferms (luckily), but I've got a wacky natural I'm gonna try it with this morning

At work I'll be outside for a bit and come back into the office wanting coffee, but really not wanting a hot beverage lol. Too hot out

[narrow coral]

Out of coferments! What blasphemy is this!! Someone get this man some funky coffee!!

[limber stag]

[fossil canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-bgt-britains-got-talent-stay-away-possessed-gif-16410173

[narrow coral]

I can't wait until you roast the Candy Blast Decaf, and your wife demands you stock it for her full time bro.

That's why i sent you a whole pound of it. Just to make sure you can get it right for her 🙂

It's such a mellow co-ferment due to the SWP process

[fossil canopy]

you all are awful influences. She's gonna get hooked on watermelon iced lattes just in time for summer and I'll have to buy and roast this regularly

[narrow coral]

100% for sure

Done on the medium end of light roast, with a 20g dose in a 500ml Aeropress XL, poured over ice, then sweetened with honey...it's like watermellon coffee crack drink...

It's one of the few Annie doesn't even ask for milk with. Comes out like a watermelon honey sweet tea.

[glass patio]

Can I get a link for this lol

[narrow coral]

https://www.florincoffee.com/products/green-candy-blast-decaf-colombia

The image says 2 pounds, but the 17 dollars is price per pound

it's expensive, like 16.88 PP if you buy right from forest 35KG at a time.

[solar lark]

Anyone have any decent south Florida shops to recommend? Preferably not in Miami.

[past zinc]

I went to superWow a few weeks ago from a recommendation here and it was great

[zealous hinge]

This is the list I have @past zinc recently.

#1228117431889826036 message

[solar lark]

Awesome! Thank you!

[plucky imp]

hi everyone

[uneven ravine]

@fossil canopy is it ok if I DM you?

[clever thistle]

Going to be hosting a smaller meet at my house in St Pete June 27th. Please DM for info/if you're interested. Meetup around 10am till we get done (usually around 2).

[fossil cobalt]

Made my wife an iced pour over w a med-dark Brazilian using your recipe and it was actually really pleasant

I’m in the mood for iced coffee now. Too late for caffeine though

[narrow coral]

Should get some great decaf 🙂

[past zinc]

The bane of my existence

[narrow coral]

Iced coffee, or drinking coffee too late in the day?

[past zinc]

Too late in the day lol

[narrow coral]

Then you should get delicious decaf too 🙂

What's up with all the coffee lovers who are afraid of decaf. Sure, store bought decaf is terribad, and decaf from cafe's sits around for months so it sucks too...but if you get it freshly roasted, or roast your own, it can be fantastic. 🙂

[past zinc]

It just doesn't do it for me if it's decaf

[narrow coral]

That's because you're drinking shitty decaf...

[past zinc]

I love the coffee but often my cravings are at least partially for the caffeine

[past zinc]

No I've had good ones!

Part of what I love about coffee is the feeling post drinking

That doesn't happen with decaf

[narrow coral]

Makes sense. I like the taste of coffee, so for me it's less about the caffeine and more about the tasty coffee.

[past zinc]

I've also been a little afraid because I think decaf still contains some caffeine, and I don't want to have just enough caffeine to mess with my sleep ya know

I have seen you talk about decaf and the one you've mentioned sounds so good

I should probably get some. My wife (pregnant) would appreciate it

[narrow coral]

It's very slight as long as you're not drinking a gallon of it, like <5mg compared to 100 for a normal espresso

[past zinc]

NGL I thought it was more like ~15

[narrow coral]

LOL I can't wait for @fossil canopy to roast that one, it's all gonna be over for him when his wife tries it. 🙂

[past zinc]

He got the one you talked about??

[narrow coral]

I sent him a pound to torture him. What are coffee friends for!!

I wish I could convince him to roast some of this stuff, it's one of my favorites.
https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-cherrycola-12-kg

[past zinc]

Hell yeah

Processing: experimental

Love that

[narrow coral]

It's got this awesome amaretto cherry taste. It's soo good.

ElliotHatcher and I bought some and I covinced him to sell me most of what we bought. It's my favorite pickup of 2025-2026 for sure

[past zinc]

Y U M

I gotta get to the next meetup lol

[fossil cobalt]

are those maraschino cherries lmao

[narrow coral]

I have no idea, all I know is that it's amazingly delicous. 🙂

[fossil cobalt]

@fossil canopy do you announce drops anywhere other than #1270844968537165988?

i don't want to miss your next drop!

[fossil canopy]

Yes! The mailing list and Instagram. If you don't use Instagram, I'd do the mailing list. So far I only send updates to announce new drops. If you already are on it and haven't seen the updates, check your spam to make sure it isn't getting sent there.

[fossil cobalt]

Yeah I must not have been on the mailing list. I'm on it now! Thank you

[frozen bronze]

Anyone in swfl interested on some gear before it goes to eBay ?
Decent xl + coffee cart + half scale + zero z1 + lagom 01 + niche + xbloom studio + fellow Aiden . Lmk . Can come to my house in cape or we can meet somewhere

[limber stag]

What color is the lagom 01 and xbloom

[past zinc]

i don't know a lot of these things by name. Are there any budget friendly grinders in there? Got a friend looking but he's on a pretty strict budget, $100 top end.

[limber stag]

It’s all top shelf

[past zinc]

not unexpected lol thank you!

[frozen bronze]

Yeah sorry it's pretty endgame (it was for me).but I got some things to take care of that are more important. Nothing wrong with the stuff

[clever thistle]

Thanks EAF Meet peeps, these were all great. The Peru was insane

Forgot who brought these 🥲

Peru - Floral like jasmine/white flowers, red fruit like cranberry, balanced leaning +acidity

Was top 5 coffee for me this year.

Very stoked for tomorrow's coffees. @fossil canopy 🫶

[fossil canopy]

Glad you liked them! I like TPC but it's not my favorite roast profile, a bit too muted/flat at least with the way I brew. Super "smooth" though with almost every coffee they roast. I really like their Gesha Village though, the way their roast style pairs is nice, creamy rose and bergamot

[fossil canopy]

I got feedback from someone that Raro Boda was their favorite. Honestly really impressed me more than I expected. Late crop from last year but good stuff.

That's the same Salomon Estela I brewed at the meetup and it was killer imo. SHould be even better now. And the the OTL gesha is light so don't expect a TON of acid or saturated sweet florals. but probably more delicate rosewater type stuff. Not too peanutty/grassy though all things considered, just less juicy than the prod profile

[clever thistle]

I am stoked for the Salomon again, that coffee was 🔥 , and will be fun on the HUs.
All the rest are roasted like 5/9 or 5/15 so they are still hibernating.

[narrow coral]

How much for the Niche Zero?

[frozen bronze]

How

500 if you pick up 🙂

[narrow coral]

Where in FL do you live? I'm in CT for my grandmother's funeral, but I fly back Wednesday, and my wife and I could take a road trip.

Also how old is it?

[narrow coral]

@fossil canopy , your Z2 showed up!!! I got a set of the new Lebrew 80mm pour over burrs to fafo with for next meetup.

https://lebrewtech.com/products/lebrew-80mm-burr-series?variant=49120350699828

[fossil canopy]

It's been really great, super happy with it and the SSP brews I have in it