EAFlorida 🐊

[sharp heart]

it shouldn't have been such a tough decision, but it was, lol

[narrow coral]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disappointment-13

Just means we have to hold another one in February...

[clever thistle]

Bringing a totally normal amount of stuff

[narrow coral]

I haven't packed yet...

gonna get up early and pack, but I want to have an espresso in the morning before I run

[clever thistle]

The EK is missing for that reason 🤣

Need morning coffee

[narrow coral]

Anyone comming tomorrow interested in a set of SSP 64mm HUs?

I got them for my Timemore 064s, had it in the grinder a week before I returned the grinder, but kept them for the Z1 I was gonna buy...and instead bought a Z2

[fossil cobalt]

Alright I'm packing up now... the spreadsheet looks FULL!

Definitely bringing coffee and my K-Ultra, anything else? Everybody's bringing so much 🤣

[clever thistle]

Not even sure what I'm bringing is listed 🤣

oh god, it isn't... let me update that.

[safe bison]

Hey guys, this cough that I got is just too crazy. I don’t think I’m gonna be able to make it out tomorrow, unfortunately. But I’ll definitely make it out to the next one.

[clever thistle]

Sorry man! Hope you feel better soon!

[soft forge]

Had something come up myself. Don’t think I can make it which bums me out. If I can’t this time I will be there next time!

[limber stag]

Feel better Rusty and we’ll miss all who won’t be able to make it

I’m bringing the titans. They’re packed up

[limber stag]

If anyone can bring a surge protector power strip; that would be great! I have one

[narrow coral]

I'll toss some in my crate

[limber stag]

Hey all we’re missing one of these cups! Give me a shout if you have it please 🙏

[slim ridge]

I checked, didn’t grab any extra cups

[soft forge]

How was the event? Did y’all break any new Orb records

[limber stag]

We found the cup!

[limber stag]

It was epic!

[soft forge]

Nice setup

[queen prairie]

Looks like a great turnout

[safe bison]

Awesome pictures. Looks like y’all had a good time! I’ll definitely come out to the next one. There’s some viral cold going around and the cough is never ending!

So I had to bail. See you next time though!!

[limber stag]

my sincerest gratitude for allowing me the privilege of hosting such a fun event!

Excellent convos and even better coffee

Who brought the timemore carafe? I have it just hit me up so we can make sure it gets back to its rightful owner

Whoops some of these photos were shared above

[narrow coral]

Spreadsheet is updated for Feb's Roasters meet!!

[thorn spoke]

Very cool very jealous

[narrow coral]

I'll have 10 pounds of https://elquetzal.coffee/products/eq-washed-laurina-green-coffee with me

plus anything else random I buy between now and then

[ornate trench]

I’m sure the Munva was a hit

[narrow coral]

it was fun!

I think I need to mount it to a thicker table top of some kind, it moves around. I have a leftover piece of a butcher block counter (sink cutout) that I will probably finish for it. I just have to square it up and route the corners, then sink some mounting bolt receivers in it

@clever thistle Can you ask your person at Forest if they can give us a price for like 5 pounds of https://coffeegreenbeans.com/products/candy-blast-decaf

[slim ridge]

I work in a nursing home, this is definitely true. It’s nasty

[safe bison]

I hate it lol

[limber stag]

We can use my jawhorse next time

[fossil canopy]

That might be mine lol. I'll message you in a bit if it's gone when I unpack my gear later.

Thanks everyone for coming and making the meeting great as usual.

Thanks @limber stag again for hosting!

And a note for my coffee I gave out, as usual I forgot to put roast dates. Most were roasted yesterday and I recommend 6+ weeks of rest to have them at their best.

[clever thistle]

Yeah DM your email.

@limber stag thanks for hosting man, you the MVP 🫶. Stellar turnout.

[clever thistle]

99% sure it's yours. It's the only Timemore I saw.

[slim ridge]

Yes, thank you for hosting @limber stag

And for the food too!

[narrow coral]

Spreadsheet is updated for February. This one will be for roasters too, so there is another tab for green beans.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?gid=1646871766#gid=1646871766

[slim ridge]

We are doing a February meetup?

[narrow coral]

Yes, we're going to invade Julian's clubhouse again, and make it smell amazing with roasting coffee this time

[clever thistle]

@fossil canopy @limber stag the green with the black dot is
https://savagecoffees.co/products/finca-deborah-afterglow

Other is Terroir. 110-120g (cause that's what fit in the bag)

[limber stag]

Very excited! 🙌 appreciate you

thanks and excited to turn it from green to brown

[limber stag]

Also major shoutout to @clever thistle for helping to coordinate the Savage samples and sponsorship plus the 5 gallons of water! Legend.

@fossil canopy for bringing home roast that’ll be ready in 2027

And the event truly couldn’t be possible without other contributions (cups, hardware, etc. included) - you know who you are @narrow coral, Nas, Josh, Noah of course Carl @slim ridge

so nice hanging everyone pitch in bringing some truly top tier coffees and equipment for our enjoyment!

Here’s to the next one 🔜

I’ll be posting stuff on the IG page when I have some downtime. I’m just rebuilding the coffee station now

The last brew of the day, 1:4 Eugenoides blend has at least one tasting note that lives squarely in “other”

[narrow coral]

But it was delicious rubber bro!

[uneven ravine]

How do I get the home roasted beans with the awesome labels?

[fossil cobalt]

Y’all always have the wackiest beans

[clever thistle]

Reminds me of Caroni rum

[tough owl]

I see yall Florida 👀

Yall shows up and showed out. What a setup! Sad I missed it. Will share your pictures with my Atlanta folks here

[fossil canopy]

Petrol my beloved

[fossil canopy]

If you're talking about my home roast (Bean's Beans), I've just been bringing them to each coffee meet, not selling them (yet?).

If I can ever make it work logistically in any reasonable volume, I'll probably sell them on a webstore.

[narrow coral]

You should drive down to February's meet!

[uneven ravine]

Yes!

If you open a webstore, please let us know!

[narrow coral]

<@&738986689749450769> can you pin this poll please?

[narrow coral]

Thanks Wonderllama

[fossil canopy]

Sure thing!

[tough owl]

I will be in town valentines weekend to take the kids to Disney world. I don’t know if I can come twice

[narrow coral]

If you try to "just stop by this thing near Disney" in the morning, your wife is going to stab you...easier just to "forget" something here, and say you have to come back and get it the next weekend...

[crisp oxide]

The bigger problem is that it's not really that close to Disney either lol

[narrow coral]

LOL

[soft forge]

Oh I’m into Laurina having just tried it from Haan

[narrow coral]

I bought that 10 pound bag of greens, can't wait to try them!

[soft forge]

Haans was darker than I expected but didn’t taste bitter at all. Wondering if that’s a thing with this variety

[slim ridge]

I voted the 28th since that gives a lot of space to plan ahead. But I can make any weekend but valentine’s if it is in the morning

[narrow coral]

Valentines isn't even on the list 🙂

I'm a married man...I'm sure AF not that brave...

[slim ridge]

Haha 🤣 one thing I learned, most of EAF has a significant other

[tough owl]

EAF not young anymore. Discord works cause we may have used chatrooms as teens

[limber stag]

I’m waiting to hear back about clubhouse availability for the dates in the poll and will let yall know - should hear back tmrw. Would love to have another one ☝️

Also, tried to post as much as I could on the IG account and hope I didn’t forget to tag anyone

https://www.instagram.com/eafloridah?igsh=eGJneGRxZ2QzeDBh&utm_source=qr

[narrow coral]

AOL chatrooms is where I learned to type...

[tough owl]

There you go. Was banging out those words per minute before computer classes were offered in school

[narrow coral]

dude, why no caffienation bazooka at this one?

I just saw that...

[tough owl]

…what is that.

[narrow coral]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOST8MPirbJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

rustybrews

A world first at the @eafloridah meetup. A @oxo Rapid Soup Bazooka. 🤣

70g coffee per basket x6, 1 water chamber and robot basket with 60g

Instagram

[limber stag]

Next time?

[tough owl]

Ahhh yes. This was viral in discord. Didn’t know that’s what it was called

[limber stag]

I had a ton of seasoning beans left over so it was feasible

[narrow coral]

We need to brand it.

"Florida Man Soup Bazooka"

lean into that whole...bad decisions thing...

[limber stag]

[tough owl]

I see an air compressor mod on this bazookas future

[narrow coral]

LET"S GOOO!!!!

Shit like this is why I don't use the good coffee for my wife...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTQz28nD_Us/?

movementcoffeeroasters

The reason we need marriage counseling 😆
#movementcoffee #marriage #coffee

Likes

20496

Instagram

Except she puts hot chocolate powder into her coffee...

with marshmallows...

[tough owl]

Yall how much do the pads under the Ek43 feet help with sound?

[limber stag]

@clever thistle swears by em

[tough owl]

I’m curious to see what pads they use

[clever thistle]

https://a.co/d/j60py5m

For turntables.

Works great

[narrow coral]

Oh yea!! both 30-32g baskets incomming!!

[limber stag]

Hopefully my Met will be arrive in time for Feb meetup 🤞

[narrow coral]

And the Z2's

we'll have to coordinate burrs if that happens

@fossil canopy what burrs did you get with your Z2

[limber stag]

@safe bison @fossil canopy @clever thistle do you remember what the ratio was from the soup centipede bazooka?

[narrow coral]

1:3 water to coffee...

[limber stag]

Sound about right

[fossil cobalt]

Feb meetup is roaster stuff or everything?

[limber stag]

Of course not!

[fossil canopy]

Lmao I think it was no more 1:1 yeah maube like 1:3 water to coffee or something insane like AllusNova said lol

[fossil canopy]

ULF! Definitely really interested in custom zerno burrs when they come out though.

[narrow coral]

Everything, but like, we're going to be roasting coffee, so be prepared to drink some charcoal brickets!!

[fossil cobalt]

LOLOL

[narrow coral]

OK, then I won't put my ULF's on mine if we get them before Feb meetup

Maybe I'll put my WW DB3 base burrs on, discontinued but are > than cores for spro...

[limber stag]

Is z2 blind? I have some LUs

[narrow coral]

Z2 will take sighted or blinds

[fossil canopy]

Yes, it can fit non blind burrs too I think. They have a crazy burrs carrier that fits most everything

[limber stag]

Ok sweet - if for some reason someone wants to try I’ll ofc bring

It’s come to my attention we have a non Floridian in our midst

….

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[tough owl]

That’s just crazy. It’s such a game changer with how many 80mm options are entering now.

Next fused vision with the Pietro burr mod could really change the budget category.

[limber stag]

Totally! I brought some FV stuff today - plates for bookoos and UFO landing pad

[tough owl]

Yessir jealous Atlantan here. We get some Florida peeps that’s pass through and msg on our events page. So I realized wait I could check out other pages too

Oh that bookoo plate looks great

[fossil cobalt]

I was recently one of those peeps

[tough owl]

Exactly

Did you enjoy the coffee? I think I sent you some from Lume?

[fossil cobalt]

Yes it was so good!!

[narrow coral]

How long should we let those beans rest that we got at the meetup, I realized I forgot to ask yesterday.

[queen prairie]

#1228117431889826036 message

[clever thistle]

For the Savage stuff, 3+ weeks is good.

[narrow coral]

Josh, do you think the Forest people will sell me 5 pound bags?

I kind of want to pick up a few of theirs to bring to the next meetup, one of their decafs sounds awesome along with the grape coferment and the caturra the journey

[clever thistle]

I'll put you in connect today 😊. I think they do some smaller amounts, not sure about 5lbs.

[narrow coral]

Hey everyone, for our theoretical roasters meetup in February/March, how would you guys feel about doing it at a local commercial kitchen in Eustis, FL?

It would give us access a space with power and appropriate ventilation. It's also really cheap so I'd be happy renting the space, I just want to gague interest before doing so.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SkvGiqMWKRHxAJLy8

[fossil cobalt]

@clever thistle Does Savage have those cold brew cans for sale at all?

And just Vivid currently or any other coffees?

[clever thistle]

Yeah just vivid right now, gotta come locally 😞. We're working on a spot in Orlando to distribute tho 😉

[fossil cobalt]

Gotcha

Distribute like shipping??

[fossil cobalt]

Who’s got the Sworks dripper?

[clever thistle]

sale in house.

[limber stag]

NeckPro brought it

[fossil cobalt]

@fossil canopy have you noticed any differences in the cup between wave filters and the negotiated flat ones?

I’m eyeing that dripper

[fossil canopy]

Yes for sure!

It's so different it's actually hard to quantify since you have to brew so differently to get in a similar realm.

Negotiated allows higher extraction with coarser grind which helps for intense and clean high clarity brews. But dial in window is a lot smaller as it can clog really easy and get harsh when overextracting .

The bypass of the wave filters will make the brew substantially faster and lower extraction at the same grind size. So for something similar you'll have to grind finer and then you risk astrigency/muddyness from that.

With my preferences I use negotiated for ultralight washed. For funky stuff or darker than ultralight I like the wave as it's more forgiving for coffee that extracts easier.

[fossil cobalt]

Really interesting. What do you use to negotiate the flat filters?

[safe bison]

Moonwake makes one

[fossil cobalt]

Shouldn’t it be similar to using like aeropress filters?

[safe bison]

https://moonwakecoffeeroasters.com/products/oshi-for-sworks

[fossil cobalt]

I mean the brews, negotiated flat that covers the walls of the dripper vs small aeropress paper sealed at the bottom

[narrow coral]

Hey everyone, I wanted to give a shout out to @quasi coyote who is going to sponsor our roasting event, he's sending me a big ol' box of green coffee of various types for us to roast. The plan will be to make some take away bags of the greens too for the people who come, so we'll be able to take some home to roast and we can share what works well with each other.

So if you're interested in doing the central FL roast event in Eustis with us LMK so we can pick a date (will be a Saturday) and I can get some time reserved at the kitchen.

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[fossil cobalt]

That is awesome

[fossil cobalt]

At Elevation Coffee Roasters in Tampa

This coffee is odd thyme tasting note

[narrow coral]

Does it taste like under-roasted...like it was taken off too soon? Seems kind of a weird tasting note

And what does "skin contact wine" taste like LOL

[soft forge]

Had some carbonic macerated sidra from this farm and it was like mojito which was really nifty

[fossil cobalt]

Honestly I’m not familiar enough with under roasted coffees to know, but that certainly is an option.

That was my first sidra so I’m not 100% on if it just tastes like that or if there was a defect in the roast

I could’ve also mistaken the florals, I don’t know man 😭😭😭😭

[narrow coral]

We've got some greens to roast of this for our next meetup that are a carbonic maceration. I've never had one before.
https://www.allycoffee.com/coffees/el-mirador-orange-bourbon-washed/

[narrow coral]

I mean, it does say Thyme...but like...it says skin contact Wine too...so like...if they're making wine out of skin....or pouring wine over their friends and then drinking it...they may be sus in general...

[fossil cobalt]

LMAO

Like wine skins I think?

[narrow coral]

no it's definitely human skin, that's my story and I'm sticking to it

[soft forge]

Gonna turn us all into home roasting fanatics

[narrow coral]

I also ordered 10 pounds of this Laurina for us to fuck around with, it'll be really low caffeine, but not actually decaf...so we can drink a bunch of it and not want to die.

https://elquetzal.coffee/products/eq-washed-laurina-green-coffee

[soft forge]

I’m excited to try your roast of it

[narrow coral]

https://klipy.com/gifs/grilling-bbq-6

[soft forge]

I like the Haan Laurina

[narrow coral]

I've been adding to the spreadsheet as I'm getting more beans for the roaster's event.

[narrow coral]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yes-nodding-12

[clever thistle]

Ooooo, something I know. It's basically a macerated wine. So the flavors that are more skin than fruit (dried fruit, savory, more tannins) and it will normally appear a more amber/orange color.

It's one of my favorite categories of wine!!! Since it's basically a white made likea red 🤣

[narrow coral]

Ah neat, learn something every day! I never really got into the wine scene. I was always more into beer or mead.

[clever thistle]

Hopefully! I'm not as nerdy about wine as I am coffee, but I really enjoy all food and beverage on some level 🤓

[narrow coral]

Got 2 more interesting on the way too

https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-peach-12-kg-2

https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-cherrycola-12-kg

5 pounds of each out of a split order

[narrow coral]

The beans S&W sent us arrived today!

Would anyone be up for a micro-meetup to roast some of this stuff, and maybe help us break it up into take away bags for the meetup maybe this weekend or next perhaps at at @limber stag's place or mine in Mt Dora?

[slim ridge]

I would be curious to see @fossil canopy roast some of that

[limber stag]

Next weekend works better for me since I’ll be out of town this weekend

[narrow coral]

Heck yea @fossil canopy, come burn some beans with us!

well or don't burn them, you do them good, we'll burn them

[fossil canopy]

There's a chance I could do next weekend too but not 100% yet

It would be cool and see if we could get a halfway decent ultra light roast out of the Kaleido. and can use my kaffelogic as a "reference" roast

[narrow coral]

heck yea!

[limber stag]

Reporting in from Deeply!

Idromatic group 👩🏻‍🍳 😘

Served with White tea sparkling palette cleanser 👅 ✨

[fossil cobalt]

How was the spro??

[limber stag]

It’s damn good, for a medium

I won’t say it’s

[narrow coral]

The guys at work are showing around forecasts that are -35 with windchil...screw that!

[crisp oxide]

My CO worker sent me this after I complained (he lives there) 🤕

[fossil cobalt]

You still in Florida??

That is absolutely wild temps

[crisp oxide]

Officially no, I'm in Michigan now

[fossil cobalt]

RIP

https://tenor.com/view/saraba-goodbye-salute-hunger-games-katniss-everdeen-gif-16434527

[uneven ravine]

Mackinac island is a must visit place

(random advise you didn't ask for)

[crisp oxide]

Haha yeah I grew up in Michigan

[uneven ravine]

Oh sorry

I did my PhD in MSU

[crisp oxide]

Grew up, went to college and worked in MI before moving to FL

Family all stayed here so we're moving back for the kids

[uneven ravine]

Yeah, good times. I liked living in EL, but not during the winter 🙂

[narrow coral]

Guys what was the label printer that someone had at the meetup?

that thing looked convenient

[fossil cobalt]

I wanna say it’s the Niimbot B1??

I think @clever thistle had it

[soft forge]

That’s what I have and it works well

[limber stag]

Yea that’s the one. I bought one and like it

[narrow coral]

Thanks

[frank juniper]

Oh nice, i spent 5 years in Detroit (10 mile area), did not like the weather in the winter lol, some of the suburbs are nice though

And downtown was improving when i left

[clever thistle]

Yes this. I specifically wanted thermal. The interface is VERY easy and I'm more than willing to share my templates

[narrow coral]

HiBean announced support in the next vesion to print right from the roast...

and apparently we're getting inventory in 1.5

[soft forge]

What dis?

[narrow coral]

Something that's going to be at the roaster's meet!!

it looked fun, so I roasted a little of it, and it's delicious

I did 300g of the 10lbs of Laurina I bought too, and it was tricky to roast, tiny beans resulted in very early first crack, need to keep the heat down for proper development time on that one.

[soft forge]

The package looks like something from Home Depot painting / patching aisle lol

[narrow coral]

it's a photo of the label printed on a black and white laser printer

The containers are my 7" grab bag ones from air-scape

[fossil cobalt]

Is the meet location finalized?

And/or date

[narrow coral]

Nothing nailed down, it looks like the last 2 weekends in February were flagged as the ones which most of the people could make, but only 3 people responded, so I'm not sure if I would call that finalized.

If it's a small group, then we'll likely meet at @limber stag's place if he can get wife approval, or mine in Mount Dora. If we get more, then I'm planning to rent some commercial kitchen space in Eustis (which is pretty cheap, less than renting his clubhouse).

[fossil cobalt]

Sweet

I'm hopping on the ZP6 train

[fossil cobalt]

@narrow coral I'm trying out your funky cloth-looking filters tomorrow-- what is it called again?

[narrow coral]

I wanna buy some V03's I really like them vs the normal Hario ones, but I can't find these for sale anywhere. They were included in my Kalido roaster order.

[fossil cobalt]

So interesting, I can't find them on Amazon either

I guess "nonwoven" is what you call them, and looks like Hario makes the same type but I can't find them

[clever thistle]

Temu or Shopee

[uneven ravine]

If y'all are just looking for non-woven, Rogue Wave have some for pretty cheap

[slim ridge]

Rogue wave goated with their filter supply

[soft forge]

And you toss in a few sample size beans too

[undone tusk]

@narrow coral definately down to meet up for roasting events. Just got a KL Nano7 and trying my hand at roasting

[narrow coral]

So Espresso Outlet got back to me, they are shipped from kalido, but they don't stock them here in the US

[narrow coral]

If we were going to try to shoot for February 21st or Feb 28th, which would work better for you? Also @limber stag, can you confirm that you're able to host on the last 2 weekends in Feb?

Panku, if he can't host, are you up for Eustis?

There is a commercial kitchen which I can get space at for cheap money, less than his clubhouse rental

[limber stag]

Do we have dates?

[undone tusk]

Either date would work. Im in Tampa, so anything in central Florida is fine

[narrow coral]

Matt, are you able to make one of the last 2 Saturday's in Feb?

@fossil canopy, @soft forge, @undone tusk, @slim ridge, and @clever thistle if we're going to try to nail down the date...are you guys able to make a roaster's meet one of the last 2 Saturdays in Feb?

OK can't tag anyone else, I just got my hand slapped by the bot...

[slim ridge]

I believe I am still free that Saturday morning(last weekend February)

[narrow coral]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10791mf2WkiZ7MBhShFPSvUcGQPOyi4cTNeLUf9bHMzg/edit?gid=1646871766#gid=1646871766

can you fill out the Feb sheet, it has 2 extra columns for if you can make either date

[clever thistle]

My plans at the end of Feb have finally firmed up and I'm busy that weekend 🥲. I can make the other tho

[fossil cobalt]

Ahhh I have a wedding to attend on the 28th. So only the 21st for me

I guess it is the afternoon… I suppose as long as I leave by 12 or 1 I should be good for the 28th as well

[narrow coral]

Josh, 28 or 21st you can make?

[fossil canopy]

I could do either weekend as of right now I think, with a bit of preference leaning to the 28th

[narrow coral]

I'm gonna call the place in Eustis tomorrow to see if I can reserve the kitchen for those 2 days

I'll let everyone know

These 2 showed up to Elliot, he's gonna stick 5 pounds of each of them in the mail for me tomorrow or Wednesday, so we'll have those to play with too.

https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-peach-12-kg-2

https://www.anthemcoffeeimports.com/product/colombia-finca-la-sirena-osmotic-dehydration-cherrycola-12-kg

[slim ridge]

February 21-22nd I could stop by for a few in the morning.

February 28th I could do morning or afternoon for a few

March 1 would be no go.

[narrow coral]

Sundays, sadly, are almost always impossible for me due to family stuff. I also need to make sure I can rent that kitchen space too so we'll have a space with ventilation as well as real power where we won't pop circuits.

[clever thistle]

21st I can make!

[narrow coral]

OK, so the commercial kitchen place got back to me, they can't do Weekends apparently, but I have reached out to Bieke Beans Coffee Roasters to see if they would be interested in letting us meet at their Roastery.

[fossil cobalt]

@narrow coral these nonwoven filters are wack

Completely different taste. Gonna need to redial on these

[narrow coral]

They seem to drain super fast!

[fossil cobalt]

Definitely

[narrow coral]

Grind finer 🙂

[fossil cobalt]

I ground two clicks finer on my kultra but might’ve needed more

[narrow coral]

My Versalab M4 and my Meticulous show up tomorrow, can't wait to not have to handgrind espresso!!

[fossil cobalt]

Meticulous!!!!???

Bringing it to the next meetup?

[narrow coral]

That's the plan

[mighty raptor]

talking about filters, I’ve been using the Abaca (orange) filter for a little while now, and I realized that most of them as of late get clogged even before pouring the coffee. I put some water on the filter and some just take forever to draw down

is it a normal/expected thing to happen?

or am I doing something wrong? Pouring the first water too fast or pinching incorrectly when putting my filter in?

[fossil cobalt]

Cafec Abaca?

AFAIK they’re faster flowing than Hario filters but there’s definitely faster if you need… sibarist makes some great filters

But clogged? That seems odd. Are you grinding too fine? What kind of coffees (decaf?)

[mighty raptor]

Regular coffee, but as said, it happens before putting the coffee in

I usually pour hot water before the coffee so the paper filter fits better and brewer warmer

but there are times in which the water draws down at different speeds before any coffee has been put into it

[mighty raptor]

yes, Cafec Abaca

bought them on Amazon when they finally became available after being out for some time

[mighty raptor]

and naturally, if I do coffee on them when I already know this is a problem they tend to stall longer than other brews

grind is usually 450-500 based on my grinder’s settings

[clever thistle]

When you're literally the dude slinging filters, but you forgot to take them to work...
Gotta improvise

[clever thistle]

The new abaca behave differently than the ones one year ago(apparently I am bad at time). In mine, and others testing.

Not sure if anyone here could confirm?

I am about 100 micron or more coarser on them now with same drawdown time

[slim ridge]

i switched to hario filter papers due to taste preference

[clever thistle]

damn. I have some new ones I could share with people if anyone still has stock of old ones.

The new hario are fire tho. much faster than the old clogmasters

[clever thistle]

I buy them by the 10-100pack off amazon and my last two batches have been flowing much slower than previous.

[slim ridge]

Yea, so I bought a pack of 01 (100ct) last week and was legit impressed by the speed

[clever thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-kitten-418

Agreed, their new ones are more like old cafec IMO... I have been fist fighting these new cafecs for about 6 months and IDK WHY

well fuck me... reddit knew the whole time https://www.reddit.com/r/pourover/comments/1pqjvor/cafec_abaca_quality_control_issue/

[slim ridge]

wow I didn't know this was a legit thing

[clever thistle]

I have been pulling my hair out. I always assume a skill issue...

problem usually exists between kettle and ground, ya know.

[thorn spoke]

Only worry about how filters behave with coffee in them, there are plenty of test where you could fill up two v60s with different filters with just water and one of them flows faster, only to then do the experiment with coffee as your normal pour over recipe and discover the one the slower flow with just water had a faster drawdown.

What make abaca's superior to some hario filters is how the handle fines migration, not how fast they flow. They just don't clog as easily

[thorn spoke]

Heard about that on reddit but haven't experienced it with mine, hopefully they work that out

[clever thistle]

I went from buying individual packs to bulk around this timeframe (the post) so it tracks to others experiences. Likely I'll just go back to buying individual packs for my cafec needs.

[narrow coral]

Beanpile for the roasters meetup when we can find a place...

[frank juniper]

Wow. Now i wish i was closer lol

[narrow coral]

I've been collecting a bunch of interesting beans I find, and S&W donated some for our event.

[fossil cobalt]

noooooo!!

just an excuse to buy 100 packs of sibarist filters

[sharp heart]

I have not had the above issue that people are referring to with Cafec. Early December I ordered Abaca and T90 directly from Cafec. The Abaca still flow faster than the T90. I have been experimenting with Sibarist Fast and B3 on cones. I’m starting to like them.

[thorn spoke]

I prefer the abaca's over the t90's as well

[fossil cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-funny-hehe-haha-oops-gif-3473222

[narrow coral]

I kind of wish I had gone with one of them, I like the nobypass cofee more than V60s after trying them, I find I use my Aeropress with a filter sandwich anytime I want something that's not espresso based.

but I have too much coffee equipment to add another dripper I'll use 10 times a year.

[sharp heart]

As long as you have a glass v60, just get a switch and get a switch and voila, 2 in 1, and the switch with immersion I would think gets real close to no bypass drippers

[narrow coral]

I have a switch actually that I use as a ghetto V60

and yea I use it in immersion "mode" more often than not, but I still almost always prefer the cup from the Aeropress

[fossil cobalt]

I haven't used my Aeropress in ages

What recipe do you use? I should give it another try

[narrow coral]

I have an XL, so it's bigger. I do a filter sandwich, paper - metal - paper.
I use 30g of grounds, like a 60-70 on a K6 hand grinder, then I fill to 550g of water.

I fill to 60g first, let it bloom for 20 seconds, then fill to 200g and let it bubble for 5 seconds or so, then fill to 400, give it another 5 seconds, then fill to 550. I then let it sit until the total time from bloom has been 2 minutes, and I slow press it.

I also pour through a mellowdrip

[fossil cobalt]

Ooh

[limber stag]

@narrow coral did you get your Meticulous and Versalab M4?

[narrow coral]

I got my met!

Fedex like misplaced my fucking M4 for 6 days

bruh, it's a 1 day drive btw NM and TX, what did you do with my shit...

So I'm debating with support from Fedex now to insist that they add a signature release to it

because I give it 50% chance that thing shows up smashed to fucking pieces

and like hell am I going to accept them just dropping it and leaving

[fossil canopy]

So apparently my new roast approach requires even more rest than before.

I tried a couple test roasts from 12/23 (38 days rested) and they need a lot more time, at least 2+ more weeks minimum maybe more. Since I started roasting, the peak rest time has drifted from ~4 to seemingly 8 now, oops.

I probably wouldn't bother opening the coffee I gave out until late February, probably will peak mid March.

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[clever thistle]

Going to be putting together a Sibarist order. Please DM if you want anything, can coordinate there. Likely pulling the trigger early next week.

If you're not in the Orlando>St Pete corridor, delivery is up to you (though Miami could be arranged)

[fossil cobalt]

Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of a group order?

[clever thistle]

I have a wholesale account 😉

[fossil cobalt]

OOOH

[errant geyser]

I might be interested. I just got hiflux filters in though

[fossil cobalt]

I'm definitely interested... what is the difference between B5 B3 and FAST? 😭

[clever thistle]

B3, quite a bit IMO. in both speed and the way they manage fines migration.

all that being said, I never think they are worth the retail price.

[fossil cobalt]

You prefer B3?

[clever thistle]

neither...

[fossil cobalt]

Oh, really

[clever thistle]

all things considered, Cafec are still my top. Price/consistency (outside the current weird multi-pack issues)/results in the cup

My consumption and consideration habits are likely not the norm tho 🙂

[errant geyser]

What do you think about the boosters?

[clever thistle]

I think they all sit in my drawer, and look pretty.

[fossil cobalt]

So why are you placing an order?

[clever thistle]

cause I brew and test A LOT, I still prefer them in some instances with some brewers, and many people want them regardless of my opinions 😉

They fast are my go-to on the Mugen when I am brewing with it.

[fossil cobalt]

HMMMMM

[fossil cobalt]

What are the chances the design differences in a negotiator actually make any difference lol

[clever thistle]

If it was 1%, I'd be very surprised. 🤣

Same 🤣

[fossil cobalt]

What are you making?

[clever thistle]

gridfinity for my dripper drawers

this doesn;t work for me

cause it won't hold them all...

[fossil cobalt]

NICE!

I definitely need to do gridfinity soon although my drawers aren't too bad 🤣 I don't have a 3D printer but I always just hijack my brother-in-laws printer lol

[clever thistle]

same (my friend), it is a hobby I don't need... Eh @limber stag Ehhhhhh

[fossil cobalt]

[thorn spoke]

I've found that cone booster and the Mugen to be a pretty good combo, about the only time I pull the booster out

[clever thistle]

I like that idea, I'll have to give it a go 🤌. Thanks fam

[undone tusk]

@clever thistle how are you liking the h&s birthday cake?

[clever thistle]

Gonna brew it tomorrow!!

Was gifted by @fossil canopy I believe, from the meetup

[undone tusk]

Ah, one of my favorite coffees in 2025. Hope you enjoy!

[narrow coral]

M4 finally showed up. and all I can say is holy shit...it's awesome. The grounds are SOOOOO fluffy...and direct to PF is literally better than in a shaker...it is so crazy....

https://klipy.com/gifs/dispicableme-unicorn

[neat citrus]

Are there any local roasters on the palmetto area that have good coffee?

Majority of what I saw in St Pete was absolute trash

[undone tusk]

AFAIK there is nothing in the palmetto/Sarasota area.

[narrow coral]

Chris...it's time to join the dark side. buy a roastah!

M1 Lite is cheap right now!

[clever thistle]

It's rough in Florida in general 😞 if you're looking for UL.

[errant geyser]

Did you give Sunbear a shot? He just got some Pepe Jijon in that looks pretty good

[neat citrus]

Seems like he only has a few offerings.. I'll give it a try

[limber stag]

Be sure to report back

[undone tusk]

Kenny's (sunbear) Sebastian Ramirez White honey Gesha was quite good. I actually preferred it over H&S offering of the same variety

[errant geyser]

I have the Pepe Jijon Sydra Wave he just did. I'm letting it rest some and then I'll give it a try. It was good in cupping though

[past zinc]

Hi people! Just started looking around the discord and found a FL group. Do y'all ever do meetups in the orlando area?

[queen prairie]

@limber stag has organized at least 3 I know of in the Orlando area

[past zinc]

oh hell yeah

[queen prairie]

@narrow coral is setting up a roaster meetup but I believe still trying to find a place

For ventilation

[limber stag]

https://www.instagram.com/eafloridah?igsh=eGJneGRxZ2QzeDBh&utm_source=qr

[past zinc]

that's awesome

[limber stag]

Glad you found us here Hope to see you at the next one

[past zinc]

Followed! I'll try to keep up and show up. I've slowed down on my coffee enthusiasm with children but i miss the good stuff

[narrow coral]

We need a place with enough power outlets to run several roasters and a place with enough ventillation that we don't kill ourselves while roasting.

[past zinc]

bring some cable splices and we'll meet under power lines

[narrow coral]

Who grabbed the stepdown basket from me for their ORB at the meetup? How has it worked for ya?

[soft forge]

Sad I missed it

[limber stag]

anyone looking for a meticulous? looking to sell it locally before posting on BST

i'm fairly certain i'd like to let it go, locally preferably

[errant geyser]

How much are you thinking?

[narrow coral]

LOL already gonna sell it!!

Didn't you JUST get it

[limber stag]

Cost, $1979.50

[limber stag]

I've had it for about a week but generally familiar w/ the premise as a prior DE1 owner

[errant geyser]

I’d buy it. I’m in St. Pete

[limber stag]

DM

[limber stag]

pending

[narrow coral]

Looks like you're driving to St Pete this weekend 🙂

[errant geyser]

Shipping whenever zelle lets the payment go through

[clever thistle]

no no... make him drive ;-). @limber stag @errant geyser said no shipping.

[narrow coral]

Oh yea, Remo you need to drive up and visit us this weekend it sounds

[errant geyser]

Drive up where 👀

I’m free on Sundays though

[narrow coral]

We're all gonna go to Big's house

we just haven't told him yet

[errant geyser]

That’s a bit of a drive

I’d carpool though

[narrow coral]

How far is it from St pete's to Orlando area?

[errant geyser]

2-2.5 hours ish

I’m too broke to take a weekend off work though and ya’ll never schedule stuff on Sundays

[fossil cobalt]

I'd be down for a Sunday meetup btw

[narrow coral]

Yea, Sundays are hard for me, sounds like Remo's saturday, but don't let me not being around stop you guys!!

[limber stag]

it’s about time to schedule the EAFlorida Q2 brewers meet.

I’m looking at dates in late April or early-mid May. Based on clubhouse availability, can def include a mix of Sat and Sun as options.

I’ll be putting a poll together before too long here! Stay tuned

[sharp heart]

To local Florida folks, I’m going to be selling my December 2024 LMLM-R. It’s a great machine. Prior to posting everywhere, seeing if any Florida folk have interest.

[limber stag]

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1469826697145618452

Prob unnecessary however - big vouch for RSquared

[thorn spoke]

@sharp heart I just threw a feeler at the owner of zap to see if he knows anybody local

[sharp heart]

Thanks!

[fossil cobalt]

Got my hands on a sworks dripper... what's your usual recipe?

Also @clever thistle mind sharing your Niimbot template? 👀

[clever thistle]

【Label with Brew QR(50*50)】,After copying this information⊙698bc1629f24723cad6093c1⊙,Open👉NIIMBOT👈。

[limber stag]

Here’s a few I made too

【vertical Label with Brew QR-1（50*80）】，After copying this information⊙698bcb979ec95303e47e9f42⊙，Open👉NIIMBOT👈。

Vertical 80 x 50

【my roasts（80*50）】，After copying this information⊙698bcbe29ec95303e47e9f43⊙，Open👉NIIMBOT👈。

[narrow coral]

Oh nice I really like that tall one,

I wish the labels printed from HiBean were better

it lets you generate a PDF right from the roast profile for the labels

[soft forge]

Dumb question - I have a nimbot how do I open these?

[narrow coral]

On your phone, copy the text from their posts, and just open the nimbot app, it will import them, then you save it

[sleek mountain]

Hi! I’m in Florida and I’m interested.

[sleek mountain]

Hi! I’m very interested. I’m in Florida too. What color is it?

[sharp heart]

Hi Steven - white. I’ll send you a DM.

[fossil canopy]

My recipe for ultra light washed or cleanly processed coffees:

I have the highest hole count honeycomb bottom. Sot he 2nd highest hole count overall.

Negotiated flat filters (fold in a x pattern, open and lay on top of the cone, push negotiater in, and rotate and it should seat. Wet with cool water if your negotiated isn't heat safe and push again to seal.

Coffee ~600 um slow fed Zerno Z1 with UMv1 burrs

1/3 dilution TWW light roast in distilled water at 198F/92C

15g coffee to ~255g water

Fold/negotiate filter as mentioned earlier, then rinse with hot water.

All pours using melodrip!

Close valve fully and pour to 50g. Wait a few seconds for brewer to distribute the heat and pour grounds in. (I shake grounds in this time).

Gentle Wet wdt to stir up the slurry and a swirl.

At 40 seconds wet wdt again and swirl. At 50 seconds open valve 1 full rotation (pretty much fully open).

Pour to 130g and gentle shake to level bed (note the 15g of coffee is included in the total weight now since it went in after the water!)

Wait until water level drops to ~1 cm from bed and pour to 190g, gentle shake to level again.

Repeat above pouring to 270g (255g of water total when subtracting the grounds).

Should finish ~2:45 to 3:15 usually.

Mess with small grind size, water temp, and ratio adjustments to dial in for different coffee or roast levels. You might want to use normal wave filters for darker or more processed stuff, the bypass is more forgiving there.

If you're not using a melodrip, you'll need to be careful with clogging the filter and use a lot coarser of a grind likely.

Also smaller doses might help avoid clogging with a thinner coffee bed if you're not using a melodrip. I can get away with a thicc bed though with the melodrip and fairly unimodal grinder

When using wave filters, I often use the valve to slow things down as it runs waaaaay faster. You can get creative there and mess with the valve through the brew to modulate contact time

[soft forge]

Neat didn’t know that was a thing

[soft forge]

【Templates_260115172200（50*30）】，After copying this information⊙698bf9719ec95303e47ea10d⊙，Open👉NIIMBOT👈。

Small label

[fossil cobalt]

Sweet thank you!!

These niimbot presets are awesome

[crisp oxide]

Which niimbot are you guys using? Any suggested labels to pick up for labeling test tubes?

[errant geyser]

Thank you @limber stag

[narrow coral]

LOL he sold it already!!

He had it like 36 hours

[errant geyser]

I have pulled 6 shots on it and I’m in love

[narrow coral]

Right? I bought one from a backer too, he had his less than 2 weeks, he eventually gave up waiting and bought a 7,000 dollar AKS lever...so I get why he handed it off...but same, I'm loving it.

[errant geyser]

The workflow is so much better than the Flair for me and that alone makes it worth it

[narrow coral]

Better is subjective...

My Muvna is pure mechanical love...and it's way better for dialing in

If you accidentally choke the Met, it makes a big ass mess to unchoke it, on the Muvna, I can say, dammit...and crank more...and get my oil slick 18 BAR espresso, or back off the crank, and remove the PF without dumping water everywhere.

[errant geyser]

better... for me :)

I never grind fine enough to choke anything

[narrow coral]

I find them different for different things, the Muvna is still my "fun" machine, and the dialing factor is way better, but once I've dialed in a coffee for a given basket, if I'm making coffee for several people, the Met is way better workflow.

As someone who roasts small batches of 6 or 7 different beans at a time, though, I probably use my Muvna more, but early in the morning...If I'm dialed in...Met wins the day.

[clever thistle]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKR49HGT?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4&th=1

Think everyone has the one I do at this point, so this is it.

I really should get a kickback on these. LOL

[fossil cobalt]

Used a modified version of randroid's template

Gotta get myself some bigger labels to use

[clever thistle]

I do hate having to type all the info in each time. I wish building a database would be easy. You can fetch fields from outside sources tho.

[fossil cobalt]

There's gotta be a way to plug in a URL and have a bot scrape the necessary data. Maybe I'll look at that.... 🤔

[narrow coral]

Does anyone near Orlando have a Lathe for making metal parts?

I want a 49.7mm stainless all one piece tamper

But I can't find one to buy.

[crisp oxide]

Stainless on a lathe isn't a hobby setup lol

[clever thistle]

You're gonna likely need a machine shop. Is therea place locally that you can rent machine time?

I know in Seattle there are a few.

[narrow coral]

That's why I'm asking people in here...like I know we have someone extra crafty in a "I do this at work" sense in here...

[fossil cobalt]

nerds gonna nerd...

[sharp heart]

I haven’t bought anything today, so why not, lol

[fossil cobalt]

I’m honestly really impressed with it given the price tag

[narrow coral]

Same, it was cheap and it works very well

[limber stag]

I know a guy 👋

[limber stag]

Enjoy!! Glad it arrived safely

[errant geyser]

I’ve pulled 12 shots so far and they’ve all been great

[past zinc]

12 shots in 2 days hell yeah

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[fossil cobalt]

Btw for those of you who are splitting third wave packets between 2/3 gallons, how are y’all doing it??

I feel like I need a scale down to 0.01g to really know.

I’ve been splitting mine in half just eyeballing but I’ve been seeing 1/3 dilution recently and idek how I’d eyeball that

[fossil canopy]

I don't recommend trying to split the powder as it's not homogenous so you might get an uneven amount of minerals.

You can mix up multiple gallons at a time or if you don't want as much prepared at once you can do what I do and just mix in one gallon and use as a concentrate. I just have one full strength gallon and weigh my kettle when I top off with 1/3 of the mineralized water and 2/3 distilled.

[soft forge]

This is what I do

[crisp oxide]

I have a 3 gallon and 5 gallon jug from Walmart that I use to mix

[slim ridge]

I will say, some have had success splitting it up with similar results to not faff about it, so maybe worth trying idk

[crisp oxide]

I had very different results between gallons the two times I physically split the powder. It probably is totally dependent on if/how each sachet settles

[thorn spoke]

I've never tried it, but it just makes sense that splitting it up probably isn't a good idea, no way to tell how much is of what is where

[narrow coral]

Gotta get a mortar and pestle and grind it all into a nice powder 🙂

[fossil cobalt]

Lololol

I should just get a big jug then. Cause mixing it all in the same container makes sense

This looks handy

[thorn spoke]

I always just dumped it in a gallon and had a gallon of distilled and split it up on the kettle before I brewed

Which is what was described earlier

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

me mixing up water instead of TWW or lotus

[soft forge]

I have tried mixing in a small bottle and then dividing that in 1/2 or 1/3 ultimately it’s easier to just do 1 gallon full and 1 gallon zero and mix as needed

[clever thistle]

why not a razor blade or credit card?

[narrow coral]

because let's not make our wives any MORE concerned...

[clever thistle]

Just gonna agree with what basically everyone said already.
I brew a gallon a full strength (I even let sit for three days) Then I split the gallon.

[clever thistle]

oh god, I have so many good stories around this 🙂

[frank juniper]

Fr

[narrow coral]

Most of my Ikea parts delivered, still waiting on another bin for the K6 and a few more hooks for V60 filters but my setup is looking lots less disheveled, and I've freed up enough room for the Z2 when it arrives.

[limber stag]

Coming together nicely! Did you do the base plate swap on the m4?

[narrow coral]

I did

I still have to setup the 3d printer and print a new funnel

The stock one sucks ass

[soft forge]

What is the Rube Goldberg contraption on the right

[narrow coral]

The best espresso machine ever you mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WlQDsawOM

It's the most "fun" espresso machine I've ever seen

It does require kettling, but TBH, I use it like 5:1 vs the Met. In truth, I may sell the met this year, but I'm gonna keep the Muvna forever, it's absolutely amazing.

[undone tusk]

I put a couple of these in my son's room to organize his legos and realized it would be perfect for coffee accessories. Need to get back to ikea to get a couple more shelves

[past zinc]

What product is this? I'm moving my office to another room and these look great for a lot of stuff I have

[undone tusk]

Ikea Skadis, there are a handful of accessories and colors.

[past zinc]

Sweet thanks!

[fossil canopy]

Update on the last round of Bean's Beans coffee I gave at the EAF meet.

Dec 23rd test roast is fully opened up and peaking I'd argue. So 8 week rest rec is probably holding true.

I'd recommend trying at these times:
Merly Leon: 7+ weeks ~ March 6
Getachew Zeleke: 7+ weeks ~ March 6
SM Mystery Producer Gesha: 7.5+ weeks ~ March 9
Kayon Mountain Taaroo: 8+ weeks ~ March 13
Little Swamps Estate: 8+ weeks ~ March 13
Chepsangor Hills Estate: 8+ weeks ~ March 13

[slim ridge]

Perfect, my sighted SCR burrs come in next month

[fossil canopy]

Hoping my Z2 comes in next month. May have them hold it until they get some of the newer SSP 80mm Brew burrs in though to put in it.

I've never had big burrs before so I'm hyped and the Z2 has a lot of super sick features and design.

[limber stag]

There are A TON of complimentary accessories and parts ||and even the panels themselves|| that can be 3D printed

I’ve been looking at it alongside MultiBoard and GridFinity. I’ve been using wall control for HomeGym stuff for years and love them too

[undone tusk]

I have it next to a target wooden pegboard to prevent my situation from being all black. Still need to find some time to finish my floating shelves and add led lights. Might add another layer of stain on the board too. Overall its cheap and effective and im sharing accessories across multiple rooms like the garage so its easy to reconfigure

[limber stag]

Love it!

[fossil cobalt]

That looks killer

068 or 078?

[undone tusk]

078, I do have a 064s relegated to a closet atm

[fossil cobalt]

Very nice

Do you like its cup over the ZP6?

[undone tusk]

They are both great. Zp6 is a little more clear where the 078 has a little more body. Both have a similar acidity presentation though. Very comparable in quality imo. My wife who drinks a filter coffee every day can't tell the difference in a blind tasting.

[narrow coral]

Right...I'm dying here. Supposedly we're going to get an email update tomorrow...

[narrow coral]

LOL I stole the idea of using the pegboard from your picture in setups. 5 stars 🙂

[undone tusk]

Im surprised its not more prolific. I see them all over YouTube as soft boxes for led lighting or garage storage. Its super versatile and looks pretty nice

[thorn spoke]

I just threw some burrs up for sale on the marketplace, figured I'd let y'all know in here because of the close vicinity

[thorn spoke]

On another note, anybody got Orlando recs, going tomorrow and gonna check out filigree

I generally hit up Deeply and/or Haan

Never been to Filligree

[past zinc]

Haan is my fav

Lineage is always good

Avoid Foxtail if you want to keep the light in your eyes

[errant geyser]

foxtail is hot shit

[past zinc]

I've had a shocking amount of non coffee enthusiast friends make a point to tell me how bad they think Foxtail is lmao

[safe bison]

I think the soup we made from the oxo bazooka is probably better than fox tail

[past zinc]

I think I would rather not have coffee. And I really don't mind Starbucks every so often

[errant geyser]

I hate foxtail for reasons outside of coffee. They’re taking up a prominent downtown spot in a city I like because a billionaire wanted them there

[past zinc]

They had some pretty bad controversy early on too.

What billionaire?

[errant geyser]

One of the DeVos kids.

[past zinc]

ugh

Gross

You got any good recs? I rarely go out for coffee these days and I've been wanting to get something nice

[errant geyser]

Not in Orlando I don’t

[past zinc]

Foxtail has spread outside of Orlando??

[errant geyser]

Yep. One of the DeVos kids brought it to Michigan

[past zinc]

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[errant geyser]

(:

[past zinc]

Oh my god they're in SIX STATES

I despise them so much lol

In Orlando they're at least usually partnered with Kelly's, a really good ice cream place

[slim ridge]

I actually recommend lineage for tea

[thorn spoke]

I will be eating a spot right by one of lineages smaller coffee shop/counter thing so will definitely maybe grab some tea, good call

[past zinc]

East end?

[thorn spoke]

Filligree I heard has a EG-1 on the counter, which means something and nothing all at once, but I'm intrigued, I think they are newer? I could be wrong tho

[thorn spoke]

Winter park

[past zinc]

Cool! Lots of good stuff there

OH, the Glass Knife in winter park serves Onyx coffee

Only place in Orlando sadly

[slim ridge]

Ahh then mills market

[safe bison]

Unfortunately every time I go to lineage I leave feeling disappointed

I usually just get an iced latte there because that’s hard to mess up

Is deeply any good?

[thorn spoke]

I've had some good espresso at deeply, they have batch as far as filter goes

I'm not a espresso guy tho, batch was solid

[crisp oxide]

Not in Orlando (Lakeland) but I really like Concord

I haven't had a single miss from them

[narrow coral]

I'm still salty that didn't make it to January!

[zealous hinge]

Oooooh, what’s the dirt on foxtail? They’ve been popping up in south Florida too lol.

Or is it just trash coffee?

[safe bison]

They’re bad

Really bad coffee beans. Terrible drinks

[undone tusk]

Really really bad. Its a Starbucks dressed up on the surface level to look like a local shop. There are half a dozen of them here in Tampa now.

Their lightest roast had oil on the beans

[safe bison]

I went in one and saw that they had some “artisanal” looking coffee & espresso mugs on the shelf for sale. I google imaged one of them and it was from Temu

[past zinc]

the rumor i heard a LONG time ago was that one of the owners/manager was sexually harassing employees. They hid it for a while and when it came out, they fired him and hired him on at a parent company.

not entirely sure how true that is to be honest

But in terms of coffee it really is notably worse than starbucks

[safe bison]

200% worse than sbux

[frank juniper]

I've tried foxtail once, wasn't impressed, but it was superior to Starbucks

I got an Ethiopian coffee, had some flavor, and the rest was roast

[safe bison]

I guess it depends on what you order. Any time that I’m not going to a nice coffee shop I just order an iced oat milk latte. So it just depends on who can mess that up the most.

[undone tusk]

My wife said of Foxtail "what if a BBQ joint sold coffee"

Smoky flavors and wood everywhere

[safe bison]

Accurate

[frank juniper]

There was tons of wood there lol

[limber stag]

Not to throw shade, the last time I went I ordered a “single origin pourover” and it came out 100% tepid

Never been back to foxtail, it’s been at least a year or two

[fossil canopy]

I went to foxtail when they first opened in like 2016 or 2017 I think.

They are actually what got me into specialty coffee! They had actual light roast ethiopian nat back when the blueberry bombs still existed.

Within maybe 6 months or so, they sort of blew up bc of that 2010s wood everything + Edison bulb hipster aesthetic and very quickly commercialized and went to shit.

They had one location for 6 months to a year and then opened up a shop at UCF. I went there for that blueberry bomb eth on cold brew regularly. Very shortly after expanding to UCF, the coffee turned to shit.

Then they opened up dozens of locations everywhere and, started charging awful prices, and the quality of the drinks in general are bad too not just the coffee. It's absolute dogshit.

Then apparently the whole scandal with the owner or manager or someone sexually harassing employees and them protecting them.

Pretty much everyone who lives in Orlando who isn't a tourist or recent transplant despises them lol

[past zinc]

A great summary. I never went to them early on, sadly. My dad is into roasting, so he took a tour of their roastery. He came back super excited talking about how good their coffee must be because the roasters really know their stuff.

He tried the coffee he brought home and he was so sad lol.

[fossil canopy]

Damn lol, that's funny.

The beans for that short period early on were lighter than lineage if I remember correctly. Probably dark af compared to what I drink these days but well within "American light" territory I think.

My memory is probably biased on how good it was since it a inexperienced still. But I definitely remember a notable shift in quality that was pretty rapid.

I figured they'd still do serviceable milk drinks or something but nope even the few my wife or I have gotten over the years have been awful.

[zealous hinge]

Damn, won’t be going there anytime soon then lol.

[past zinc]

I don't understand how the milk drinks are so bad. I love me a sweet treat and the last one I got was legitimately awful.

[fossil canopy]

I honestly think I blocked it out of my memory lmao. But I think I remember it being a bad mix of roasty and lacking of any substance. Even though I drink extremely light coffee, at least "good" dark roast has body, texture, chocolate, nuttyness etc going for it.

But instead I think it was harsh, roasty, bitter with none of the positive character, maybe both a bad shot and bad beans. Now that I think about it I think my Wife got a pumpkin spice latte a few years back and the syrup was awful. It tasted like they tried to make it in house but did a terrible job balancing the spices and it was chewing on a clove.

[past zinc]

It really is impressive how bad it is lol

Now I'm in the mood for a good latte

We should get back to positive suggestions lol

Theres like one decent coffee shop in Oviedo, Craft & Common

[fossil canopy]

They have one in Lake Mary now, my wife got an iced latte once or twice that was good.

Also she got a cookie and another baked good I think that we're really good, not sure if they get them in from somewhere or bake in house

[zealous hinge]

The only really good place down here is SuperWow in Hollywood. They always have interesting things coming in.

[past zinc]

Hollywood FL yes? I'll be down there for a week in April and need to find spots

[thorn spoke]

Can vouch, been there a couple times, good cups

[zealous hinge]

Where are you going to be? I’m sure I’ve missed places but here’s the list of shops my buddy and I frequent when we’re by. Also put some notes on the lower shops.

Composition Coffee - West Palm Beach
SuperWow- Hollywood
Big Face - Miami (they’ve been 50/50 though, sometimes exceptional, sometimes very bland so not worth a trek into Miami if you’re not already there probably)
Mane - Boca Raton (honorable mention, they still stock things like Dak and The Barn, but their cups have fallen off and I haven’t had anything truly great there in a long time)
Wells - Fort Lauderdale (used to be more specialty trying but now just a lifestyle brand)
Panther - Miami (still fine but won’t blow the socks off anyone here, probably still the best experience of a coffee brand with that many locations that I’ve been to though)

[past zinc]

I'm not entirely sure, other than that it's in Hollywood. I'll try to find it more specific location, I didn't book the place myself

[past zinc]

Thanks for the recommendations!

I go to Hialeah often enough but usually when I'm there I put aside my coffee snobbery and drown myself in cafe con leches

[past zinc]

Ok, nearest landmark near where I'll be is the memorial regional hospital

I'll be in a neighborhood right near there

I'd love any recommendations, coffee, food, tea, parks, etc

We'll have two toddlers with us, so that will limit sit down restaurants

[clever thistle]

any down there and you can't really go wrong with Colombian, Venezuelan, or Cuban (if you are into that).
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Z5YgJriofwfJTGoG6 is pretty fire
https://maps.app.goo.gl/C8ZX9z845XuRsotRA excellent if a little overpriced
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7kC9X7c274Phxjgw5 is a local institution, it's fine.

coffee scene in and around south Florida is pretty trash IMO (outside what has been mentioned already)
I know the people that own this place, they are quite amazing, and it's worth a stop if your're in the area
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TrVrqAngft1ygPHG7

If you want something specific for food (Latin) you can DM me. Been traveling down there a few times a year for a decade and always trying new spots.

And for those of you that are like "oh Cuban food is amazing..." I bet you drink co-ferments 🤣

[past zinc]

I'm Cuban, so...

Thanks for the recommendations! I'm collecting a bunch of places to put on a list and review when we get closer

[clever thistle]

FITE ME! lol
Don't worry, I feel the same way about French food 😉

[past zinc]

I don't eat pork though so I'm a TERRIBLE cuban

[clever thistle]

WOWOWOWOW

Who did you wrong?

[past zinc]

Too long of a list to mention lmao

[clever thistle]

cause if I am eating Cuban food, you know it's Lechon!

[past zinc]

No lechón for me lmao

[clever thistle]

We usually default Colombian (my top 2, other is Peruvian) or Venezuelan (my partner is) when we go.

I have marginal experience with Nica and Honduran places, but a lot less overall

[past zinc]

Honestly when I'm there it's just visiting family. They cook so it's cuban food, but usually it's basic and we go out for breakfast

i do LOVE pupusas though

Those are from el salvador iirc

[clever thistle]

Fuck. Yes.

[past zinc]

They're gods gift to mankind

Haven't found many in Orlando sadly

[clever thistle]

yoooo, hangover food OG (save pesole)

[clever thistle]

over here in St Pete is the same. Not a lot of good Latin food 🙁

[past zinc]

Isn't cuban food the stereotype over there?

[clever thistle]

it IS, but we haven't found a great spot TBH. Everyone recommended tourist ass Colombia... That was ok at best

we have 2 Venezuelan spots and I have 2 Mexican spots I LOVE

[past zinc]

I've been and it's good. But IDT it's anything super special

I don't spend much time around there. Last time I went was an awful Tex Mex place lol

[clever thistle]

yeah, that was my expperience. It was fine

yeah I don't really do Tex Mex lol/ Growing up in CA, thems fighting words

[past zinc]

To me they're completely different cuisines. Both are excellent

LA had the best tacos ever though

[clever thistle]

they really are :-). I just like to give TexMex shit.
LA DOES have the best tacos. Central CA close second IMO.

[past zinc]

Crazily enough I had some LA worthy tacos in Clearwater Beach of all places

[clever thistle]

This is where I go near me.
https://share.google/cThUgjW3UuPDB3iME

no trompo, but still great.

[past zinc]

Great. Now I'm hungry

[clever thistle]

LOL my bad

[past zinc]

Looks great. Basic but in a good way

[clever thistle]

One of the other rare foods, in the US, I can't find is a good doner 🙁 (I can't spell)

[past zinc]

I've been seeing a lot about those lately and have been meaning to look around

I actually went to a Turkish place a few weeks ago but they were breakfast focused. No doner

[errant geyser]

What are ya’ll in the St Pete area doing for water? I got a zerowater filter and it hasn’t lasted me long enough to be worth buying more filters for so I’m looking at a countertop RO system of some sort.
I’d love some ideas/recommendations (:

I typically remineralise with Lotus Drops; also considering buying minerals

[narrow coral]

Do you have a grocery store with an RO thing for filling up 5 gallon water bottles? Publix in Mount Dora has an RO one for 2 bucks for 5 gallons of water. I fill up bottles and remineralize them.

[thorn spoke]

If you have RO you could just use RO but if you pair it with your zero water filters they will last alot longer that way

Countertop RO paired with a zero water filter is a good way to get 0tds base water

[soft forge]

Imma have to look for this at my Publix I just buy distilled there

[narrow coral]

Mine is literally in the vestibule as I walk out the door

I bring my own 5 gallon water bottles and just refill them, and according to the wording on the unit, it's reverse osmosis water, not just like charcoal and sediment filter.

The one at Walmart seems to just be sediment and charcoal, but it's 50 cents for 5 gallons

[limber stag]

have you TDS checked it?

[narrow coral]

I don't have a TDS thing

But it tastes like gallons of normal distilled water

shrug

[thorn spoke]

RO can have a pretty significant swing of minerality, some can be very low while others can upwards of 20ppm

That isn't necessarily bad or good, but measurable and does effect outcomes in one direction or another

[narrow coral]

I just know it's a lot better tasting than tap here 🙂

[slim ridge]

Photo dump from camera. Def learned a lot about shooting so will do better if I bring the camera agin, good time

[fossil cobalt]

That is awesome!!

[past zinc]

Woah I must have missed this one. Looks awesome!

[limber stag]

These are awesome 😎 thanks for documenting!

[narrow coral]

Oh hell yea, got my Z2 phase 4 email this morning!!

[fossil canopy]

Haven't got mine yet but mine is black and in the original December date so should be getting it soon too 🤞

[fossil canopy]

FYI, The Merly Leon and Gesha should start to be fully opened up soon, maybe the Getachew as well. The rest might need a bit longer but all should be close enough to try a dose of soon if anyone is interested.

[narrow coral]

@spare ridge Come Join us in the FL degenerates...i mean coffee addicts club 🙂

[spare ridge]

Awesome! Thanks. Are there details for the next meet?

[narrow coral]

@limber stag, was there a sign up for that yet?

[limber stag]

Not yet, can look for some dates and get back

[dusky dew]

Hey y’all, my names Chris, I just wanted to pop in and introduce myself. I met @clever thistle last weekend in Houston and he said this was a great group of fellow Floridian coffee weirdos! I live in Sarasota and working on setting up a little roastery down here.

Sounds like the next meetup is TBD, but I’m definitely interested in getting together and sharing delicious coffees

[slim ridge]

Lowkey, the Orlando meetup is super great, but I am always down to meet up outside of the schedule quarterly meetup for a few hours of brewing/calibrating/trying new coffees

[dusky dew]

Awesome! Yeah I’m down whenever I can.

[clever thistle]

I host stuff on this side of the state pretty often/once a month. I'll be sure to post in here when I do.

They legit taste like Hario peach rings. (Obviously not the puppies!)

#humblebrags

[narrow coral]

Which onesa re those?

and can we buy them in green beans somewhere?

[clever thistle]

Was just one of the Finca Deborah cherries. They all taste pretty in peach/watermelon/cranberry

[soft forge]

Bring us back some

[past zinc]

Oh my god that sounds amazing

[clever thistle]

Wildly different than Mexico 🤣. Those were mostly San Isidro tho

[clever thistle]

I don't fuck with agricultural products and borders 😉.

I enjoy travel to much for the ban list

[thorn spoke]

Dog bout cute as hell

[clever thistle]

Yoooo!!! She ran over and flipped on her belly... Almost started googling "dog immigration Panama to US." 🤣

[narrow coral]

Can you ask them if they'll sell us some?

I'll buy them and pay my tarrifs 🙂

but I don't want 55kg, I want like 5kg

[clever thistle]

Very much appreciate it 🫶

[clever thistle]

Great malic acidity, vanilla/sweet florals, getting some really nice raspberry/cranberry. Crushed it man 😄

Appreciate you sharing @fossil canopy

[past zinc]

That sounds wonderful

[fossil canopy]

Awesome!!! Great to hear you enjoyed it. I find that one to be like a tart Kenya with Peru terrior

[limber stag]

EAFLorida Q2 preliminary survey

Pending clubhouse availability for all 3 dates above, wanted to see in the interim which dates work best

[slim ridge]

Mother’s Day weekend probably not the best so I voted the 16th

[fossil cobalt]

I am finally wide open on these dates! Can't wait

[spare ridge]

Where’s the clubhouse located ?

[slim ridge]

Orlando (longwood)

[past zinc]

Oh sweet! I should be able to make the second and third dates

[queen prairie]

2190 springs landing blvd Longwood fl 32779

[clever thistle]

At least one of us will be driving from Tampa/St Pete as well.

[limber stag]

Good call, d’oh!
The mother of my children gave me dates I’m available 🤔

@fossil canopy

[past zinc]

Any roasters in here?

My dad has a 1kg mill city machine and he gets solid coffee out of it but I'm not sure we know how to really get good stuff out of it

I'll bring some fo the meetup if I can make it

[fossil canopy]

how did it age?

[fossil canopy]

a few of us are home roasters, I have no experience traditional gas drum though

[limber stag]

wonderfully, it’s opened up quite a bit and the notes are on point. Overall impressions are that it’s quite vibrant and there’s a lot more sweetness than I’m used to on the back end - likely due to dripper selection. The raspberry continues to linger! 😋

[fossil canopy]

Yeah with the flat bottoms you can definitely get a lot more sweetness! Good to see the raspberry opened, Initially I had "white raspberry" because it was other roasts were so soft but I developed this one a bit more and felt it was strong enough to upgrade to normal raspberry lol

[fossil cobalt]

What recipe are y’all using?

Don’t want to waste any beans with these samples.

I should pick up a cafec deep37….

[slim ridge]

I am going to brew it like shoebox, but I like to do a 5 pour to test and then adjust if it needs less aggressive pours (4 pours)

[fossil canopy]

I use the recipe I gave you for the sworks, that's my normal one

[fossil canopy]

These will be a bit more soluble than last time overall. Maybe the kenyas are still pretty light might need 5 pours for those 2 lol

[fossil cobalt]

I still need to get a negotiator 😭

I thought my xbloom negotiator might work but alas, it did not...

[limber stag]

I’ve printed my first negotiator
24hrs ago and am def enjoying it!

[spare ridge]

Awesome. Minutes from me. What time do you guys usually meet up?

[limber stag]

8am is when I open up typically
Confirmed all 3 dates available

[limber stag]

In case people haven’t seen, the poll opened for Q2

[narrow coral]

My stainless lay flat portafilters from China finally showed up!

[past zinc]

Oh my god those are gorgeous

[narrow coral]

Once my Z2 gets here, I'll be done for a while!!

[narrow coral]

52 dollars. 🙂 They also lay flat with the deeper SWORKS stepdown or SWORKS 30-32g 58mm baskets.

https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fitem.taobao.com%2Fitem.htm%3Fid%3D1014001051485%26ali_trackid%3D2%3Amm_117358474_33384934_118778578&spm=1101.1101.N.N.e4fdb3e

[narrow coral]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-it-now-7

[past zinc]

I need to buy a new computer monitor first lol

Ive successfully kept from coffee gear purchases for a while thankfully

[spare ridge]

How do you like the Meticulous? Were you a backer or recent retail buyer ? I've been patiently waiting for mine to arriver for over a year now.

[narrow coral]

I like it, it isn't perfect, but it's a very solid machine.
It's really good once you've dialed something in, due to it's design the consistency is unmatched with a manual lever. That said, because there isn't a way to change your profile on the fly, if you've mis-dialed a profile for a bean/basket combo and choke the basket, you have to release the piston and pull the PF, dumping water out, which kind of makes a mess. Most of the water lands in the tray, but it still kind of makes a mess. When dialing it in for a new roast, I now start a bit more coarse than I think it will need to be and incrementally move it finer to prevent that.

The portafilter is also weird, the ears are a smidge too tall (0.5mm) and too wide for two other "standard 58mm" machines I've tried it with, but only by a tiny bit, so normal portafilters fit the Met just fine.

I bought it from an OG backer who gave up waiting and bought a 7500 dollar ACS lever, deciding that when his Met showed up, he was just gonna sell it.

[spare ridge]

Will you be bringing it to the next event? Would love to see and try it in person along w the zerno z2. I pulled the trigger on the bookoo 80mm but then decided to cancel that order. I really didn’t like what I was seeing from the beta testers. I have the z2 in my cart but having a hard time pulling the trigger on that price tag.

[narrow coral]

If nobody else is brining one I'll bring my Met, as well as my Muvna 8, Versalab, and Z2. If anyone else is bringing a Z2, we'll have to coordinate for burrs

[fossil canopy]

Still haven't got my stage III update on my Z2 but I was in the December estimated ship range.

If I do have it by then, I'll have the SK SSP brew burrs in there.

[narrow coral]

Oh nice, I didn't buy the brews, just the ULF

I wanted to try them before getting the brews

I'm going to send my CORE burrs to SSP to get red speed coated (so they don't rust) and figured I may buy a set of SK Brews when he ships them back to me

[fossil canopy]

If we have both Z2's in time and you have the ULF in there, I'd love to compare the ULF and brew.

Should be a good apples to apples comparison, exact same grinder, can use the same brew method coffee etc.

[past zinc]

i thought i was pretty into coffee but y'all are using words i've never even heard of

this is great lmao

[narrow coral]

your wallet appreciates you not being so into coffee as some of us....

[past zinc]

i have other bad hobbies, dont worry

[spare ridge]

So true!

[spare ridge]

Did you receive a quote on how much that would cost? I was thinking of getting the core burrs also.

[narrow coral]

200 bucks to have them coated including return shipping. They already did my DB3 base burrs. It also cost me like 75 bucks to send them from FL to South Korea

[thorn spoke]

I just got a set of sbux special steels, I might pick up some brews eventually and have the sbux sent off and resharpened and coated

[thorn spoke]

200 isn't great but not bad, about where I thought

[limber stag]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[limber stag]

Obligatory bump! Sunday 5/17 in the lead

Cast your votes! 🗳️

[soft forge]

For the roasters here: https://www.instagram.com/stories/brainwaveroasters/3849443019133670305?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTliZ3N6czY0YzVwcA==

Maybe they can send us some for our meetup

[past zinc]

Oh sick, just messaged

[narrow coral]

OK voted...come on Saturday (any Saturday!!)

[spare ridge]

Haha. I just removed my vote for Sunday! I REALLY really want to see the Meticulous and Zerno.

[narrow coral]

Yea, if the Z2 has arrived, I'll bring the whole kit, Z2, Versalab M4, Met, and Muvna.

If @limber stag is gonna bring his Met too I may leave mine at home as there is no need for 2 of them.

[errant geyser]

He got another one?

[slim ridge]

He sold his

[narrow coral]

OH yea I forgot, bro had it a week...

OK, I'll bring mine 🙂

[errant geyser]

@clever thistle Here’s a bit more info on that coffee

[clever thistle]

Interesting, watermelon for sure.

But like that and not the actual fruit

Was great to meet you today! 😊

[fossil canopy]

Last update on my coffee from the last meetup, they are up to 8 weeks rested and should be at or near peak for all them by now.

[errant geyser]

Exactly like this

[radiant quartz]

are these heavy? how much do they weigh? I really like the sworks pf but always very mindful when smacking it on a knockbox. I want a nice well built pf that doesn't cost a fortune

[narrow coral]

I mean, they aren't light, but they aren't exactly heavy. I have one of those MHbomber knock boxes off amazon, and it gets thwacked with them several times everyday, and has shown no signs of even noticing.

[spare ridge]

Assuming you’ll be bringing them to May event? I too was wondering weight and how they work w the Meticulous

[narrow coral]

yea

[limber stag]

Oh snap, I need to book the event space!

[narrow coral]

ahhh shit!

[plucky imp]

so wait

when are we having an event

and should i bring something

[crisp oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/bring-the-shizzel-randy-marsh-south-park-s7e4-im-a-little-bit-country-gif-22283173

[plucky imp]

im not sure what this means

[spare ridge]

What was the final date ? And please, for us newbies, let us know what we can bring besides beans 😋

[spare ridge]

As the wrestling legend Macho Man would say “Oooooh Yeah”. I can’t wait to see it in person to help me pull the trigger on it.

[past zinc]

Yes please! I can't show up empty handed lol

[spare ridge]

Anybody in the group have the Zerno 1 they can bring to May’s event ?

[narrow coral]

Someone brought one last time

[fossil cobalt]

@fossil canopy

[fossil canopy]

I'll be bringing mine if I still have it by then. I have a Z2 that should be arriving in the next few weeks and will be selling the Z1 in the (likely) event that I like the Z2 better.

[spare ridge]

Can we push the event to April ? j/k. I’ll be like a kid in a candy store getting to see my end game coffee gear.

[frozen bronze]

hi guys,, didn't know this sub existed.. noice

fwiw, I have a zerno z1 i wanna sell . could bring to the meet 😄

totally unralated, and this is a long shot, i'm looking for someone who may wanna split the purchase of a colombian specialty coffe 70kg bag,

i posted the details in #marketplace-discussions if anyone is interested

i'm in SWLF

[limber stag]

Only 45 hours left

[frozen bronze]

aww shuks.. i'm out of town those dates. would have liked to meet

[narrow coral]

We could just all show up at @limber stag's house too unannounced.

🙂

Or if people are near Mount Dora I have space to entertain

[spare ridge]

I'm in!!! And minutes from Mt Dora. Let me know when you get the Z2.

[fossil cobalt]

@fossil canopy just cracked the Merly León — absolutely incredible!

Knocked it out of the park (as per usual)

[fossil canopy]

So glad you like it! The acid and berry notes on that one is so good. Nice picture too, the color looks awesome in that lighting and cup.

[past zinc]

How'd you brew it? I absolutely adore that cup

[fossil cobalt]

I didn’t have my Sworks on hand (nor Melodrip) so I used an 02 glass switch with Cafec filters roughly following NeckPro’s recipe…

ZP6 on 4.5
93deg water, half-diluted TWW
50g bloom until 0:45
then pours to 130g, 190g and 255g each waiting until the water was 1-2cm above the bed
Very gentle pours in a tight spiral pattern and no physical agitation

[slim ridge]

That one was my fav

[fossil cobalt]

Mystery Producer is CHAFF CITY!

Coffee turned out so good

[narrow coral]

That shit looks like tea LOL, sooo light!!!

My light roasts never come out that good. 🙁

Just need to keep roasting 🙂

[fossil cobalt]

Tasted like tea. Love that style of roast

It can be right off the brew, hot hot hot and zero bitterness

I’m used to having to let coffee cool down before the bitterness subsides lol

[narrow coral]

Same! I have gotten one or two ending up like that, but it's hard AF.

I just did a batch of this https://www.swroasting.coffee/product/kenya-kaguyu-aa/28?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=true

That I got to come out NICE at 11% weight loss, it's probably the best light roast I've turned over so far, but those like 9% nordic roasts...haven't pulled one of those off successfully yet. Mine always come out seeming "underdone" when I drop them early enough to be at 9%, compared to others' 9% roasts that taste fire!

[fossil cobalt]

Interesting…

Sounds like a nice coffee

[narrow coral]

it is pretty awesome

[fossil canopy]

Wow I don't remember that one even being particularly chaff-y too but looks crazy on the brew bed.

That one I found too be a bit woody when I roasted too fast/low development so I gave it a bit more development time and leaned into the sweetness/acid a bit more than I do for some gesha (I love floral maxing them usually).

Ended up getting pretty orangey and the jasmine turned more lavender, I was pretty pleased with it.

[fossil cobalt]

Yeah, honestly surprisingly sweet and intense for 1:17

[fossil canopy]

I do tiny batches on my Kaffelogic which makes iterating a lot easier. Also an obsessive amount of time studying and experimenting between every roast. For a while I was spending 2+ hours adjusting profiles between each 5-6 minute roast lol.

[past zinc]

Y'all got any recs from Black & White roasters? I'm in Raleigh and headed there shortly

[fossil cobalt]

I haven’t tried any of their current offerings

But I haven’t had a bad bag from them

[past zinc]

Delicious

My wife got a decaf, not sure what it was but it was 10/10

Also picked up this because my name is Diego

[narrow coral]

I like Black White

Not quite as pretentious as some of the others and not as expensive, but I haven't had a bag bag from them yet

[past zinc]

$27 for 12oz is more than I wish coffee was, but yeah I agree

I didn't get a pretentious feeling at all which is a little uncommon lol

[narrow coral]

I ordered a bunch of weird stuff from them and I got an email from Daniel over there saying I had great taste. We emailed back and forth and he gave me some awesome pour over recipes for some of htem.

[past zinc]

That's amazing

[narrow coral]

Yea they seem pretty chill

[past zinc]

I go through phases for how much I actually want to chase something special. I just went through a bag of Costa Rican las lajas from onyx that was incredible

I'll try this one and probably go back to something cheap for a while

How long do y'all normally wait past roast date for espresso?

I usually give it ~10 days

[narrow coral]

Depends on how dark the beans are

4-14 days

decaf is faster

[past zinc]

I say a week but I usually don't have that kind of patience

I need to find more decaf. My wife is pregnant so she has to lower her caffeine intake

[narrow coral]

https://www.florincoffee.com/products/candy-blast-decaf-colombia

I buy it from them green and roast it myself

but it's probaby my favorite decaf I've found so far

[past zinc]

Where do you see the green? My Internet is crawling

[narrow coral]

From Florin

85 bucks for 5 pounds of it green

[past zinc]

Sheesh

I bet it's great though

Thanks for the suggestion!

[clever thistle]

As this cooled it was straight apple pie for me. Vanilla, cinnamon, apple; whole shebang. Stellar job @fossil canopy

[fossil canopy]

That's super interesting because one of my tasting notes in a few of the profiling roasts was cardamom. I guess it aged into that warm spice note a bit?

[clever thistle]

Think so, it was my last couple sips of it at almost room temp. Wild how close it was to unsweetened apple pie.

Vanilla was present throughout, love sweet florals.

[fossil cobalt]

I can see that 100% on the mystery producer

I think it turned out better on the sworks. I'm no good at tasting notes but I can taste cinnamon if I look for it

Almost like those gooey baked cinnamon apples lol 😋

[errant geyser]

Sunday woohoo!

[narrow coral]

Well, take some good pictures!! Sadly Sundays are rough for me, so I'll miss this one.

[fossil canopy]

This is something that is somewhat intentional on some of my coffee's now. I was leaning perhaps a bit too herbal on things and I'm starting to be able to more easily pick out when (and how) to emphasize sweetness a bit more to enhance certain aromas or flavors. It's definitely really beneficial for those jasmine vanilla florals imo. A bit of sweetness really enhances it and makes it more perfumey.

I generally don't like overly sweet or caramelized coffee as it muddies other flavors sometimes but being able to more precisely play with balancing it has been really helpful to change the way flavors present.

[soft forge]

What is this mystery producer thing all about?

[fossil cobalt]

It’s a coffee sample that NeckPro roasted, from the last EAF meetup

[fossil canopy]

I bought the coffee from Sweet Marias and they intentionally withold who produces it for some reason. They buy from the same farm year after year but never say who makes it.

It's sort of weird as it goes against normal third wave coffee ethos as well as Sweet Marias normal ethos. I was craving Gesha though and it was one of my only options beteen the websites I typically buy from at the time.

[sharp heart]

Posted a bunch of stuff on the buy sell, including an Option O Lagom 01 102HU that I’d be willing to discount for local pickup.

[clever thistle]

Why are you like this? Why do you hate my bank account?

I was eyeing that one in CA

[sharp heart]

Sorry man…. We’re all sickos in this hobby, lol

[soft forge]

Sounds really interesting I love mystery coffee league myself. This is almost the roaster equivalent

[thorn spoke]

What grinders are you shooting for getting rid of the 01? What's gonna replace it I mean

[errant geyser]

I wish I had the budget to pick that up right now

I'm still hurting from the meticulous purchase

[limber stag]

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDk2MDkzNTc4MDU3Mzc1?story_media_id=3858780943746706093&igsh=M3ZoNGI3ejlsd21k

Clubhouse booked for Sunday, 5/17

[past zinc]

I have no idea what I'm doing with these but thank you for sending the link!

[soft forge]

I look forward to whatever you or the group produces with them

[past zinc]

I personally would recommend to have expectations on the floor 😂

[narrow coral]

Anyone into water recipes who can give me a push in the right direction (or a link to a website) for getting started?

I finally got around to testing my local 7 pass filter water that I get for 2.50 for 5 gallons and it actually measured 0 TDS, so I figure I don't have a good argument for being too lazy to remineralize...

[crisp oxide]

Check out the water calculator in the wiki. It's a Google sheets file, and you can save a copy for yourself

[limber stag]

Check out the water recipe here too. It’s towards the bottom of the page

https://aviary.coffee/

[queen prairie]

Arby at empirical water has an Aviary concentrate if you don't want to be bothered

https://empiricalwater.com/products/aviary-coffee-water

[thorn spoke]

@narrow coral are you looking for recipes for minerals you already have or you looking for what minerals you should purchase ?

[narrow coral]

After some reading, I bought some magnesium sulfate and Potassium bicarbonate to start from

I also grabbed a bunch of 500 ml lab irrigation squeeze bottles to make my concentrates from

I already have one of those super fine measurement scales

the .001 sensitive ones

[thorn spoke]

https://www.robertasami.com/water#rasamifilter

There is a link to some good starting point recipes

[narrow coral]

Thanks

[narrow coral]

the Z2 is super quiet!

until you put beans into it, you can barely hear it running

And it makes so much better pour over with lab sweets or ULFs than the DRM 🙂

[fossil cobalt]

Are you bringing it??

I’m dying to see more about the Z2. There’s barely any videos on YouTube about it

[narrow coral]

Not gonna make this one, Sundays aren't possible for me, unfortunately.

[fossil cobalt]

RIP

[sharp heart]

Florida peeps, I have a new Met arriving from the factory next week. I don’t plan to keep it. Decided to go with a full manual routine. I’ll be posting it in the buy sell next week. If anyone in FL is interested ping me and we can chat.

[thorn spoke]

Might know someone interested

[fossil canopy]

Not to try and shill too much but figured this is directly relevant to our Florida group.

I'm going to be selling coffee finally! I Don't have an official day I'm starting but likely in the next week or so, couple things to polish off on the website and shipping logistics first.

It will be 100g bags and pretty small quantities for now given that I'm roasting on my tiny Kaffelogic sample roaster in 120g batches lol. I've got 4 coffees I'm starting with, and 3 out of 4 lined up for the next release probably in a couple months. I teased the first bag on Instagram and the rest will follow over the next couple days. This is one a few of you are already familiar with, the others coffees will be new.

http://beansbeans.coffee
https://www.instagram.com/p/DWZaXLqkcLR/

beansbeans.coffee

We're extremely excited to announce that we will be open for business soon! Sign up for email updates at beansbeans.coffee (link in bio) or keep an eye out on Instagram for our official opening date.

This is the first of 4 coffees featured in our initial release. A vibrant washed Peruvian field blend with notes of juicy pink lady apple, tart bo...

Instagram

[fossil canopy]

Oh and I will still be bringing free coffee to the meetups ofc, I don't plan to try and sell it there. I really enjoy our community we've built up around that and I don't want to try and turn it into a business thing.

[slim ridge]

I would also put on #1270844968537165988

[narrow coral]

NeckPro, Give me your address, I'll send you a few pounds of a few kinds of beans to roast!

I want to see what you do with some of the stuff that S&W was amazing and sent us, it's been chilling waiting for the roasters meet!

But we want to drink it at one of the meets!!

and maybe send me a bag of each so I can try them as I can't make the next one 🙁

[past zinc]

Dang I guess I have to support a small business

[fossil canopy]

Thanks, I'll make a post over there once I reveal the rest of the coffees and official launch date hopefully within the next couple of days!

[fossil canopy]

For sure! I'll make sure you get some too since you won't make it. I'll DM you to exchange addresses and such

[fossil cobalt]

WOOOOOOOO

Can't wait! Your coffee is always incredible

[past zinc]

My dad and I roast and sell coffee to our friends, but essentially just at cost. I totally understand, I'm not trying to make money off of my friends.

[fossil cobalt]

Bought a new bag of cafec abaca filters, and suddenly my brews are taking 1-2mins longer to draw down than usual.

I can't think of any other variables that would've changed. It is drawing down SO. SLOW.

[queen prairie]

Strange. I compared various filters with an Aiden and Abaca were one of the fastest, #1235468219100168235 message.

[fossil cobalt]

Woah that's awesome work!

[slim ridge]

Regular hario filters are great (01)

[fossil cobalt]

I haven't used those in a while. Maybe I'll give them another try

[clever thistle]

I posted about this a while ago. Some of the ones that come in the bulk packs have inconsistent manufacturing. I, and others in my local area, experienced the exact same thing.

I went back to buying individual pack, but I am going to follow up with Cafec USA/Active Wisdoms at WoC.

[clever thistle]

There is also a reddit post about it.

[crisp oxide]

Also just because I didn't know/realize... there's Abaca and Abaca+ which are apparently different, and it's not confusing at all 🤕

[fossil cobalt]

Which is better?

[uneven ravine]

Abaca+ are waaay slower

[thorn spoke]

Majority prefer regular abaca

[errant geyser]

I'm about to run out of T-90s. Do you guys think the Abaca are worth getting over T-90's?

[sharp heart]

If you haven’t tried them yet, then yes. It’s the only way to know which ones you like better. I’d get the small pack for ~$10 and see what happens.

[crisp oxide]

I just buy 10 of each and run through them randomly lol

I like both pretty well

[narrow coral]

If I was going to sell my Met, anyone local potentially interested?

I don't use it as much as I thought I would (Muvna is more fun, IMHO) and I think I'm going to sell that and my M2 and buy a small commercial fluid bed roaster...Coffee Crafters has a new unit coming out that is small commercial/prosumer that's sized under their Valenta 3.

[thorn spoke]

What's the name of it ?