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[exotic yarrow]

Any recommendations in Greenlake?

[slim shale]

for coffee?

[exotic yarrow]

Yesss 🙂

[slim shale]

honestly nothing notable, ben’s bread nearby in phinney stocks proud mary (but serves stamp act), herkimer is also up on the ridge but roasts darker than my preference

there’s good food but coffee leaves a bit to be desired

[exotic yarrow]

Made a friend up there and we've got a group planning to meet for coffee and everyone said they were in but nobody knew anywhere good up there and said the coffee was mid at best everywhere they tried

[azure olive]

Maybe just go to retreat and get a tea if you want to be on the lake, otherwise I'd go to bens bread but mainly for the pastries

santo coffee in roosevelt has good reviews but I've never tried it

[fickle nexus]

Santo is pretty good but not near by

[azure olive]

Neither is bens bread but the coffee situation in greenlake is just that desperate

[potent stump]

Does anyone have any local roaster recs for Taiwan or Hong Kong?
A friend of mine is looking to get coffee there

[manic portal]

best coffee around green lake is possibly the drip pot at PCC

real answer is probably layers, they have some kind of stamp act situation. or zoka in tangletown. or just write it off and go to retreat for the space

[slim shale]

layers has a custom blend i think from stamp act? the one named after their ex-truck

[manic portal]

taiwan is pretty coal, oasis is the best i’ve had and i didn’t enjoy it much. hong kong you can look at oma or red meow

[fallow plume]

Next time go to Pacha collective on Woodlawn and 72nd. They have some decent light roasted offerings, I got an Ethiopian there that was a little bright and complex

[azure olive]

Oh interesting, they use idle hands. From the branding I assumed it would be mushroom tea and matcha

[fallow plume]

I used to be a UPS driver so I know all the pit stops in north seattle lol

[vernal cedar]

kinokaffee, fellow, and after5 in taipei! Beanroom is a neat experience too, kinokaffee probably our favorite beans of the list

[civic peak]

whoa our boy Joe Yang (Story Coffee/Cozy Monster) is the 2026 US Roasting Champ! Well deserved.

Peter Shim from Olympia came in second, too.
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Introducing our 2026 U.S. Coffee Roasting Champion Wenbo Yang of Story Coffee Bellevue and Cozy Monster Coffee

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🥈 Peter Shim @olympiacoffee
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[coarse imp]

PNW going strong

[kindred rapids]

Never been to Story Coffee, but it's not far. Time to check it out

[ruby laurel]

It's good. Got to go when Joe is actually there though.

[fickle nexus]

With the cross lake section of the two line opening soon, it’ll be pretty easy to access via light rail

[half badger]

Not sure if anyone is interested, but I have a stupid amount of coffee from Current in the Philippines (about 20kg). It was for a sub order and was supposedly destroyed by customs, but showed up after I had refunded people. It's not really good, but it would be good for seasoning a grinder or maybe making a cold brew? I'm down to sell it for $5/kg just to get rid of it haha. Currently selling some to normies at my warehouse, but I still have more

[toxic sail]

Ahhh I’ll take all of it! I need seasoning beans for my Z2!

Will shoot you a text lol 😅

[half badger]

Haha perfect 👌

[shut gyro]

dang, never heard of story coffee. finally, blueberry note dominant ethiopian, it's been awhile since i seen one 😮

[dawn shadow]

Coffee at my office today

[long finch]

From the tasting notes I don’t it is my cup of coffee but I love their packaging and applaud their values.

[exotic yarrow]

It’s almost impossibly far for me 🙁

[kindred rapids]

I'll report back...

[long finch]

Heading to SF tomorrow and want to take some local beans for a friend. He likes traditional Italian ristretto type stuff. Any thoughts on what I can easily grab today?

[manic portal]

probably vivace

comes with that special stamp of schomer approval

i think lusso gmc is a better local trad roast but idk if you can pick it up in person. maybe seattle coffee gear stocks it

vivace is more of a "special seattle thing" though imo

[spice pelican]

Somebody brought cream doughnut to a previous meet up and now my whole house smells like cream doughnut

[long finch]

Yeah he went to Vivace when he was here so he might have picked some up. Might see if Lusso is carried anywhere Eastside. I know the roaster is in Redmond but probably closed today

(Fark me iOS autocorrect is somehow even worse than usual today)

[long finch]

You say this like it is a bad thing?

[spice pelican]

I have my reservations

But maybe I'll grow to like it

[native jackal]

If you want something really obscure, I think you can find Vashon Island Coffee Roasterie around town, they're really good for darker stuff.

[long finch]

Thanks. I know I’ve seen that on the shelves of some supermarket.

[long finch]

“Rustic Dark Roasts will remind you of the cleansing smoke offering of a sacred fire. Take time to reflect upon the coming day and enjoy. Widely known as Italian and French Roasts.” 😆

[native jackal]

Fortunately, their coffee is better than their advertising copy

IIRC the last place I saw it in Seattle was Leschi Market.

[manic portal]

vashon is the same guy who started seattle’s best. he has some unusual ideas about coffee, i think he was calling it “nordic roast” based on his own ancestry

they had it at bartell’s, not sure if there are any left

[native jackal]

Yeah, I remember when it was Seattle's Best. My late wife lived on Vashon while it was still Stewart Brothers. The side of the building still has the old Stewart Brothers sign.

I usually get it at the roastery when I visit Vashon, so I don't really keep track of where I see it.

[long finch]

Well I tried both PCC and Met Market but didn't find it. Picked up some Olympia instead. I did see "Nordic roast" on the Vashon website LOL Didn't want to go into Seattle or West Seattle - I think Thriftway has it.

[native jackal]

Yeah, West Seattle Thriftway is likely to have it.

There's also the Vashon Island Orthodox monastery coffee, which is also good if you like dark roasts, but the only place I've seen it in town is the Leschi Market.

[long finch]

Took the Ikape on my trip.

[dawn shadow]

I'm debating taking my kettle, orea, and zp6 on a 2-day trip to Portland. Mostly because I have so much coffee already

[azure olive]

I’ve done that for car trips and it works great

Just shove it in a box you have lying around

But usually I’m going somewhere with no good coffee so it’s easier to justify

[half badger]

Not sure if anyone is interested, but I'm gonna list some coffee equipment later today and wanted to give people here first dips (and a bit of a discount since its a lot easier if its picked up locally haha) for any of them.

Trying to get rid of:

Ode gen 1 w/ssp - $100
Aiden (basically brand new) - $200
Fresh roast sr540 (also pretty much brand new) - $75
Flair Pro 2 - $75

[azure olive]

My wife and landlord would both be thrilled for me to get a roaster but I think I’ll have to pass

[half badger]

Also, unrelated, but we should get another meet up on the books. Happy to host it if people want. I'm pretty busy in March, but maybe in April? @quaint flint will be in town for a bit starting on 4/20 ||😶‍🌫️ || so it'd be fun to do one while he's here. But whenever works for me 🙂 I have a lot of coffee I need to give to people

[half badger]

Yeah, I set off my fire alarm immediately with it, so it's been collecting dust

[viscid mason]

I'm so glad to hear you're enjoying the Ikape on a trip.

I've been using my OutIn Nano with the K-Ultra grinder and it's been great.

[spice pelican]

Darn I'll be outta town all April

But down for whenever after

[azure olive]

The Aiden is so tempting even though I have absolutely no need for it

[modern trellis]

@half badger I resell coffee gear, I'll let anybody who wants to use it have first dibs but I'd buy the ode and the flair to resell if that's ok with you.

[half badger]

Oh, sure thats fine with me. Shoot me a dm 🙂

[modern trellis]

sent!

[azure olive]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DV2pRSXlEnZ/ anyone going for this?

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I suspect it costs more than I’m willing to pay for processed Panama gesha that to my peasants mind would likely just taste like a good processed coffee, but I owe the place a visit so I’ll swing by

[azure olive]

Wild lineup for a Seattle area roaster

[flat ether]

whoa 150g lerida for $30 seems quite cheap actually

[fickle nexus]

I got some last week! Ill report in after its rested

[azure olive]

He did a separate roast of the competition coffee so I picked it up to compare, also 30 bucks

[potent stump]

Idk if anyone’s tried Goodman Roaster Coffee in Kyoto yet, but I recommend them
Had a pretty great coffee from Taiwan here that the owner roasts

[azure olive]

wish cozy monster would roast lighter for their premium stuff. like I can brew around it... but just roast it lighter

[exotic yarrow]

Corner of 22nd and Prospect

[dawn shadow]

That's pretty cool

[spice pelican]

Oh yeah I walk by there on my dog walks, those beans actually do get refreshed often

[azure olive]

Anyone heard of dejima? They’re doing a pourover popup at chucks hop shop in greenwood tomorrow (according to the sign I saw at chucks hop shop in greenwood)

[manic portal]

looks like he's a guy with a kaleido, that's kind of cool

doesn't really look like it'd suit my taste. but i love a guy with a kaleido

[fickle nexus]

tastes like froot loops! Im a fan

[toxic sail]

Has anyone had coffee from cozy monster roaster yet by chance? Curious where their light roasts sit in comparison to Shoebox for example

[fickle nexus]

I just had both, but the shoebox I had was only naturals

Shoebox is marginally lighter

[azure olive]

definitely more developed than my experience with shoebox. he told me he was going for "American light" and I think that's accurate

[fickle nexus]

Idk if I missed out on the true shoebox ul experience but it was not what people made it out to be ime

No hay or wheatgrass notes lol

[azure olive]

I had two washed ethiopians from him last september and they were extremely light and hard to brew with (for me)... I'll try again at some point

[fickle nexus]

I just finished the two I had otherwise I’d take a side by side

It’s not unlikely I had a dark shoebox and a light cozy monster

I’m debating buy more shoebox by I’m kinda tired of waiting for a drop to pay extra then waiting 4 weeks for coffee that’s not that special lol

[toxic sail]

Very much recommend ordering some more shoebox. There’s def some that are more developed, but this is a natural I’m drinking right now

I’ll need to try some cozy monster! I can do American light, but I just had an H&S washed and it was so developed compared to shoebox, surprisingly

[fickle nexus]

Does the drop happen on saturdays?

[toxic sail]

Sundays, I think 11am CT IIRC

I’ve think the store restocks at somewhat random times though, or maybe I’m just imagining things

Like if you missed coffees from previous weeks definitely keep checking because you’ll probably score more of it

[fickle nexus]

I’ll try to grab some tomorrow then. A washed eth or something should be reliable for less developed right?

[toxic sail]

Honestly I’ve found it kind of depends. Like that natural I showed is a Marshall variety from Peru. I’ve had slightly more developed eth washed. I say just got with what you’re interested in and grab a couple

[fickle nexus]

I’m not too particular about what it is as long as the price is justified

[fickle nexus]

See that’s what I did and I struck out haha

[toxic sail]

I’ve found it varies but there is a thematic band of roast level. Processing ofc changes the perceived color as well

[half badger]

Which coffee was it from h & s? Shoebox kinda goes back and forth. Last year they had a bit more development (not in a bad way) and this year they've been quite a bit lighter (not always in a good way, but often good still). H & s has been really good this year imo. He has an odd roasting style, but it's usually very light (but not as light as shoebox always)

[toxic sail]

It was the Gedeb Chelbessa!

I have the Gitega 861 waiting for me once I finish this bag of shoebox though so we’ll see!

[half badger]

Cozy monster is more developed than hydrangea. Not ul, but can be dialed in well

[fickle nexus]

I honestly feel like this cozy monster I have is comparable to hydrangea

[toxic sail]

Nice! I’ll have to try some. Im still shocked we don’t have UL roasters. You’re our only hope @half badger

[half badger]

I think thats partially a green thing. I have the same coffee. It's light, but not nearly as light presenting as the other coffees I got from him recently. But I've had other roasts from that washing station that were similar

[half badger]

I've admittedly not had hydrangea in a bit, so I'll need to try them both again to compare lol

[fickle nexus]

I also think it might be this cozy monster

I’m planning on going there today or tomorrow with the 2 line opening

So I’ll grab another one and see if it’s coal lol

I’ve got a hydrangea sub now so I’ve had it a lot lately

[toxic sail]

Keep us posted! I’ve basically stopped ordering new bags so I can try cozy monster because my backlog got wildly out of control (and thus so did my caffeine powered anxiety)

[azure olive]

There’s definitely overlap between what I’ve had of cozy monster and hydrangea, I’d say on average hydrangea’s still a little lighter

[fickle nexus]

tbh i think it's meetup time

[half badger]

Whenever I move to a bigger apartment I want to get a Roest to start roasting. But who knows when that'll happen. It's too expensive here and I'm regularly on the verge of leaving the country for rule 4 reasons

I went to roaster works to roast with a friend (and also to see if I'd be interested in using anything there), but I wasn't interested in any of the machines. If cozy monster ends up opening a co roasting space (he's talked about it), I will 100% start roasting lol

[exotic yarrow]

are any of them good? I might grab some next time I walk by

[half badger]

I had one bag that was kinda roasty (in an american light sorta way) but not bad. But thats my only sample size. He brews beautifully though, so I know it can be dialed in really well. He brews pretty differently compared to me

[half badger]

Yes! I'll be in San diego for woc, but I have a lot less events planned in April. Would love to do a meet up 🙂

[toxic sail]

Man oh man that would be absolutely sweet if you started roasting would be fun to see where you take that if it happens! Gotta move to sequim and get a warehouse with a bunch of Alpacas I don’t know why but I feel like I see them everywhere out there

Brewing style though @half badger different in regards to agitation, temps, etc or something else entirely?

[fickle nexus]

they've probably had a breakthrough with osmotic flow

surely

[spice pelican]

I haven't tried unfortunately but they're Seattle classic brown roasters iirc

[manic portal]

those are both fulcrum’s “old school comfort roast” sub-brands i think. very coal

[exotic yarrow]

Ah ripp

Might be worth it for the supporting a local and a kid?

[flat ether]

seems plausible to me that they'd develop a higher end green less. defeinitely willing to try smth in that roast level range so i'll have to pick up a bag ||but not before i atone for current backlog crimes||

on a different somewhat locally relevant note, et yemen pairs really well with spinnaker's oatnog chocolate bars that they're currently trying to get rid of on discount via toogoodtogo. the choco and spice aspects of both reinforce each other nicely

[fickle nexus]

It mean no worries?

[fallow plume]

Anyone got any tips for dialing in H&S, not getting remarkable cups with my v60 & zp6. Usually rock with a bloom + 2 equal pours recipe. 2-2:30 brews

[half badger]

What ratio/temp? Probably do more pours and/or a longer ratio, but not sure what you're already doing

[fallow plume]

1:16.667, 205f-ish

[manic portal]

H&S can be odd, I feel like it doesn’t respond well to agitation but can take aggressive ratio/temp extraction parameters. I usually start with the Gabi at 1:18, 90 degrees, pretty fine grind.

without a drip screen, maybe try just 1-2 pours

[fallow plume]

you think break out the melodrip and go super fine, super hot?

[manic portal]

yeah, you might not even want to go that hot to start. just push ratio

[fallow plume]

copy

gonna have a cup momentarily

[manic portal]

mr. h&s does qc at altitude with a gabi so i think his base brewing parameters are just kind of idiosyncratic

[fallow plume]

Yeah I've seen quite a few of his drop videos

I ended up going 1:18 and adding a pour

I realized midway through grinding that I didn't go any finer lol

I think the best cup I've had yet, still not blowing me away though

the bag says cotton candy grape on it, and I adore grape notes in a coffee, but only ever can pull them out in columbians

need to work around looking for that note

[coarse imp]

TPC ezzy is phenomenal

Next TPC drop when

[fickle nexus]

Just noticed the UL sub is open again if anyone else was waiting

[fallow plume]

whose sub?

[dawn shadow]

Quite possibly Airworks? https://airworkscoffee.com/products/ultralight-sub

[half badger]

Our drop of it is tomorrow. His drop probably later this month?

[fickle nexus]

What time tomorrow? 🥺

[half badger]

Noon. We did subscriber early access for 30% or so of the bags and it sold out in 45 seconds, so you'll have to be fast 😅

[fickle nexus]

Shit well gl me I guess

[coarse imp]

What are in this drop?

Might wait for his release this time

[fickle nexus]

Might as well try for this one and fallback if it’s gone?

[coarse imp]

Just have my archers order delivered and it cleared customs w/o any issues

[half badger]

An ecuador gesha from el dorado and a colombian gesha from someone I can't remember. He told me the Colombian is possibly his favorite colombian coffee ever, so that's the one to go for imo (from me or him lol). Both are double ferment washed

[half badger]

Customs chooses at random who to screw over

[coarse imp]

Forbidden warshed

[dawn shadow]

Hey @half badger - would you ever consider doing a popup "corporate" event, e.g. something like your local comparison or coffee showcase events but during a weekday at a local office?

[half badger]

I've done one already! Definitely down for more if anyone wants

[dawn shadow]

Ok, will DM you if that's okay!

[half badger]

Sure, np

[exotic yarrow]

Is anyone familiar with Sea Wolf Bakery?

I have a friend who's a very skilled baker & chef who's considering working there but she's not from seattle and I'm unfamiliar

[manic portal]

sea wolf does good pastry. a lot of the more respectable shops in north seattle source from them. their coffee is also surprisingly well dialed for how coal it is

can’t really speak to working conditions or anything though

dale from root was legitimately proud to be working with them, and he’s a fastidious guy

[exotic yarrow]

I saw that edit :p

[manic portal]

gotta give the disclaimer

[spice pelican]

Sea wolf bread pretty top tier for Seattle

For pastries probably temple pastries is probably number 1

[fickle nexus]

I used to buy their loaves every week. I did slightly prefer bake shop but sea wolf was cheaper

[half badger]

Solid pastries and from what I know a solid place to work. I don't know anyone who works there, but last year the workers formed a union for better wages and some other things and the owners were supportive and didn't screw them over (at least how it seems from the outside), which is legit a rarity in the city

[uncut harness]

Sea wolf v tasty

[kindred rapids]

Seawolf is great, consistently

[dawn shadow]

The bran muffins are my favorite

[coarse imp]

great focaccia as well

[dawn shadow]

Can we do a meetup there???

[fallow plume]

The pizza slaps, tuna salad sandwich slaps too

[exotic yarrow]

Oooo now I’ve gotta go

[fickle nexus]

shit i wasn't sure which was the colombian and panicked lol. Hope el dorado lives up to the tpc hype anyway

[half badger]

Yeah, I realized that I marked both as being from Colombia as a mistake I've loved his ecuadorian stuff, so I'm sure it'll be great still 🙂

Glad you were able to get one!

[fickle nexus]

Oh have you not tried it yet?

[kindred rapids]

oh yeah the bran muffins, my favorite too

doesn't feel like a young person thing to say
but it's ok, I'm not young

[dawn shadow]

Digestive health isn't just for the elderly! Though I'm not young either..

[toxic sail]

Any more luck on the H&S? I’ve just recently had two coffees from them that were surprisingly developed. They’ve been nice, but I haven’t been blown away either.

Giving it a few more months worth of subs because it’s likely that maybe those weren’t my preferred style of coffees

[fallow plume]

I think pushing the ratio helped the most tbh, cups have been better at 1:18
went to a cafec fast filter and got the brews around 3 mins with 4 pours
good cups, really delicate, sweet and layered

I think I get the hype, the beans can just be a little fickle

[toxic sail]

My experience so far as well with H&S sub coffees which has been weird because the H&S coffees I’ve had through Airworks or ordering myself as one offs have been incredible 😔

[fallow plume]

This bag is up next

I have a bag of their downtown blend in the freezer as well, it's probably the best blend I've ever had. wanted to get more experience with their coffees, didn't want to break the bank lol

[toxic sail]

Great point about the blend I’ve never tried it! Will grab a bag of that soon

[half badger]

Not coffee related, but I'm downsizing my library a bit. Planning to put most of the books in a little free library, but if anyone wants more books (mostly lit fiction), I'd be happy to give them to you. I've got some Kafka, coetzee, Han Kang, Bolaño, Rulfo, Bioy Casares, etc. Admittedly not my favorite from any of them, but not bad books 🙂

[azure olive]

oh I could put dibs on coetzee

[fallow plume]

this is really really good

[half badger]

I'll set it aside for you 🙂 it's not one of his more popular books (I had a bunch, but idk where they went lol), the only book I have from him is Foe, which is kind of a reworking of Treasure Island (which I never read lol). It's good, but not as strong as most of what I've read from him

[half badger]

This was my favorite h & s coffee I've had this year. Crazy good

[fallow plume]

yeah I made another cup, super remarkable

[fair burrow]

That one was awesome

[half badger]

I ended up drinking it all way too fast lol

[fallow plume]

I made three cups in like 5 hours

[toxic sail]

Was it a pretty fruity/natural vibes coffee considering it’s a washed by chance?

The tasting notes give me that vibe but I don’t want to get my backlog out of control again

[half badger]

It's a very warshed coffee lol. Held in cherry/clean natty vibes. But in the best sense imo. Not always a fan of that, but it worked super well here

[obsidian folio]

taste notes of wush wush often seem to have something like "watermelon", i'm super interested although I haven't got the chance to try one yet

the producer is one i'd trust based on past experience. maybe fermented wash coffee but should be relatively clean

[manic portal]

wush wush is probably the most universally funkmaxxed of all varietals. i’ve only had one truly washed version which was a very different experience to any other wush wush i’ve tasted, kind of like tibetan tea with butter

something about it just makes producers want to do the craziest advanced fermentation dank protocols they can devise

[quaint flint]

I WANT KAFKA

[kindred rapids]

Work trip to Madison - was surprised by the bean selection here, need to pick something up tomorrow morning!

any recs?

[fallow plume]

that's an incredible spread

[vapid current]

Also, while you’re in Madison, say hi to Nathan Hanna over at Domestique! He was one of the founders of Numa in West Seattle - super nice dude and he manages that cafe

[vapid current]

The Jhoan Vergara from Coffee Collective there might be the best coffee I’ve had this year - truly stunning

[obsidian folio]

If the sey with the red label is the chiroso probably I would grab that.

[kindred rapids]

Thank you and @obsidian folio, I’ll try to get both tomorrow morning . Maybe two of the vergara

[kindred rapids]

Cool, I’ll try to if I have time. Pretty quick trip but great connection

[vapid current]

Heard! I know how those are well haha

[toxic sail]

Ordered! Couldn’t help myself 😅

[fallow plume]

If UL is your thing you surely won’t be disappointed!!

[kindred rapids]

Thanks for the rec - enjoyed this a lot this morning, back in the Emerald City

[dawn shadow]

I really liked another Sey chiroso from William Ortiz, my first time trying the varietal

[manic portal]

i think chirosos in general have cleaned up a lot this year. i usually found them to have kind of an indistinct funky flavor even when washed, but a bunch of the ones i’ve had this year (including that sey ortiz) have a nice distinct kind of gatorade vibe

[dawn shadow]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXCVCwOkckp/
Free Schomer shots

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[long finch]

Wednesday Alley24 4/15 noon-2pm tax day special!

[surreal gull]

Where is that
I would be reaching for Coffee collective, sey.l, and Dak

[kindred rapids]

Bradbury's Coffee, downtown Madison.

Great little shop

[surreal gull]

No kidding, saved it for sure

Honestly, looking up a list of what cafes buy CC and Dak would not be a bad way to make a list of cafes to try while traveling

If a cafe imports those guys, they probably have well above avg coffee

[kindred rapids]

That is one of the things I look at when traveling - search the shop photos and see what's on the shelf. Looking at stockists for specific roasters is a great idea.

I use Sprudge and Reddit, should probably look here too.

Interested in what others use as well

[manic portal]

i used to look for coffee nerds in the area on instagram and see where they were going. there's a lot of shops that dial mediocre coffee really well or cycle through roasters pretty often, so i think seeing which ones have cultivated a community of coffee nerds is the most indicative way to find something good

these days though i just settle for a hot liquid in a nice space that keeps the caffeine withdrawal at bay

[viscid mason]

a friend in Burien sent me this.. enjoy !

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXJD5SsGcwk/

theneedling

Tired of needing an umbrella everyone makes fun of him for using to stay dry during real downpours, today one clever Seattle man applied Rain-X directly to his now entirely water-repellant body.⁣
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“Before you ask—yes I tried showering in Nikwax’s Wash-in Waterproofer first, but I found I just needed something stronger,” said Bryan "...

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[crisp bone]

Did you get this online or is there a Seattle cafe that had it?

[fallow plume]

Online!

[long finch]

Do we have any Victoria BC/Vancouver Island recommendations?

[fallow plume]

Impressed with this Kenya from Sey

[buoyant thunder]

I'm looking for a cafe recommendation somewhere around Tacoma or Federal Way, meeting someone halfway for coffee

[flat ether]

i recall murmurs of folks here wanting to do a late april meetup, potentially while mr. exposure therapy is in town lol (iirc not this coming weekend but the next?) is this still smth ppl are interested in?

[dawn shadow]

I'd be down

[obsidian folio]

Yep. I'm down.

[fickle nexus]

I could host on the 26th

[long finch]

I will be with Our Friends in the North but hope to make the next one.

[azure olive]

I’d be honored to meet Mr exposure therapy

[signal goblet]

Routine Coffee & Supply seems to be serving some great coffees

[vapid current]

Oh hi Mark

[quaint flint]

Hello, I am John Exposure

[dawn shadow]

Jack Flash??

[flat ether]

omg am i gonna get the opportunity to skill issue a brew of ur own beans for you 😮

[quaint flint]

Wheatgrass

[half badger]

26th would be perfect for me!

[quaint flint]

i'm flying on the 26th back down to San Jose

[manic portal]

st. cecilia is a pretty good multi roaster downtown

victoria is full of fancy specialty coffee though for some reason

we should schedule to host John Exposure

it's the only good cup of coffee he'll get here

[half badger]

25th then? Does that work for people?

[quaint flint]

sounds good

[dawn shadow]

No love for this, eh? I thought I was being clever

[manic portal]

right over my head tbh

[dawn shadow]

It would have worked better if his company was Exposer Therapy. Probably would impact sales though

This week is crazy, but I'll try to do some roasting to have something to bring for Saturday

[spice pelican]

Have fun 🥲

I'm in the land of coal

[half badger]

@fickle nexus can you host on the 25th? I'm down to host too

[fickle nexus]

No I don't think I could do the 25th at all unfortunately

I agree you should do the 25th though

[fallow plume]

25th yes 🙌

[exotic horizon]

if y'all do the 25th after noon I can join 😢

[fallow plume]

I liked it

[azure olive]

I was trying to reply to it in a way that also asked mr therapy if he was a photography buff, but it was late at night and I gave up on the attempt.

[dawn shadow]

Thank you. I am not above pity likes

[half badger]

Lemme know what start time everyone would prefer for the meetup!

And for anyone who doesn't have it, here's my address:

1287 westlake ave n

I'll find my door code when I'm home 😆

[toxic sail]

Does anyone else here in the area have a Z2 yet? Could bring mine if folks are interested in checking one out irl?

Assuming @half badger that’s cool? I feel like I’ve seen photos of a ton of different grinders at your spot?

At the moment I have the WW ULF, Ditting Tanzania and SSP SK Brew V1 burrs for it

[half badger]

Oh yeah, bring any cool grinders lol would love to try it!

[quaint flint]

Gonna be a shot in the dark but if any of y'all have a ball head tripod you wanna get rid off, do DM me

[hollow oasis]

have to leave at 11:30, just hope I can get a cup of coffee before that

[exotic horizon]

I'm gonna miss the meetup 😔

[exotic horizon]

if y'all start at 11 I might actually be able to catch some of it

[manic portal]

we're usually around for a solid 2, 3 hours. come thru

[kindred rapids]

Going to try to swing by too

[fallow plume]

I’m there, did we pick a time?

[half badger]

Not officially lol, but let's say we start at 11 🙂 I'll probably be setting up around 10-10:30 if anyone wants to come early

[toxic sail]

https://tenor.com/view/project-hail-mary-project-hail-mary-rocky-rocky-amaze-amaze-amaze-phm-gif-6988862671586741967

[manic portal]

aww yeah community grocery

[half badger]

How was it?

[quaint flint]

It's 16 now

[half badger]

Yeah, that's seattle for ya. Definitely the best old school teriyaki spot though imo

[manic portal]

has anybody been to the one in mill creek run by the original mr. teriyaki? always wondered if it's worth the trip

[kindred rapids]

Owners are super nice. It's definitely good, but don't know that I'd make a big trip for it.

[fair stag]

Yea its good, but it's still teriyaki at the end of the day. I like how juicy/tender the cuts are. Side note - I find the cole slaw a bit weird and I actually like slaw lol. Opening hour window seem to be getting a bit slimmer as the years go by, I feel he may be retiring soon so it may be worth trying to just say you had some from the OG himself.

Also I just found out this thread existed, nice to meet everyone.

I've been using tap filtered through a Brita for my machine. We all know how good and super soft our water is, mine is specifically at 21 ppm. I asked LM a few years ago who mentioned that using our tap with a Brita should be good enough - just to get rid of any chlorine/odors so I haven't thought about it since.

Recently learned that it could be pretty corrosive.. anyone have any thoughts? What sort of setup are you guys running? RO + Remin setup seems with how good our water is, but definitely don't it eatting my boiler lol. I do both PO + Spro

[toxic sail]

Actually just started ditching my brita for a zero water. Some deep diving led me to realizing the brita makes our water extremely acidic (ph 5.5-6). I noticed this like a year ago with water strip testing but didn’t fully understand what caused it. But yeah my cups are night and day from that change.

The reason from what I understand is the brita strips minerals by replacing them with H+. As the water then absorbs CO2 it becomes even more acidic. Yesterday I ended up testing the brita water vs zero water and distilled and yeah…I can’t go back

Fwiw if you have a ton of brita filters like I do - you can run tap through the brita and then that water through the zero water. Extends the life of the zero as well because the brita cuts the TDS in ~half

[fickle nexus]

What are you using to remineralize?

[manic portal]

our water isn't so soft that it leaches metal ions or anything

personally i and a lot of other people here just use straight tap

if i was going to modify it i'd probably harden it

[fair stag]

interesting.. yea I should get around to getting some test strips. I haven't bothered to test aside from this TDS meter I had laying around. For PO I just use straight up tap, but I've started testing distilled + a third of TWW to see if it was worth the effort.

[quaint flint]

Yoooo metro coming in with the goods??

[toxic sail]

@fickle nexus right now mainly lotus drops and Vichy Catalan water. Exploring a few different variations .

@manic portal when I checked our tap is heavy in KH (more than I prefer) but not GH. So because of that I’ve just resorted to zero water and remineralizing from there.

But I also just really enjoy testing and comparing so this is fun for me. I’d be doing it even if our tap was perfect 🤷🏼‍♂️

Next is exploring dry minerals vs. liquid concentrates but I need/want to get through this stuff first 😅

[modern trellis]

are you keeping the coffee the same? or testing different coffees with different waters?

[toxic sail]

Coffee, burrs, grind size, filters, temps, brewer, etc all the same for sure

Just trying to isolate water as the primary variable for now as a starting point before exploring mainly different processes and water combos

[quaint flint]

The mash is really tasty but my puny asian body can't handle all these calories

[fickle nexus]

You’re doing great job at visiting truly local places

If you want to demolish your body further go to market house meats

[azure olive]

We have a local haunt called Taco Time that specializes in Mexican cuisine

[fickle nexus]

Truly authentic mexi fries

A friend of mine is crazy about taco time NW specifically but after having both, they’re the exact same lol

[modern trellis]

would also recommend un bien in ballard, unreal sandwhich

[fickle nexus]

I went to the one in QA and made a complete mess of it

Definitely a expert difficulty level sandwich

[toxic sail]

That one is great too lol. Hot take maybe but I feel like the bread at Un Bien helps hold things together more

[quaint flint]

Nope I'm going blueberry farming first

[azure olive]

I had a pretty lame experience at the mainline taco time in Yakima, could just be the location though

[fickle nexus]

Lame perfectly describes all of my taco time experiences haha

[quaint flint]

Gotta say Mercer Island is pretty cool

[azure olive]

This hurts but I honor your feelings

[fickle nexus]

I like tater tot’s as much as anyone, but I don’t have the local nostalgia and don’t drink alcohol so I’m probably not the target audience

[coarse imp]

Gotta pay for that tho

[fickle nexus]

We’re actually feuding with them because they’re NIMBY hq

But the island itself is pretty for sure

[coarse imp]

Also you get strand on that island once or twice a year

[manic portal]

i think taco time is beautiful. we took the ancient, rich, complex culinary tradition of mexico and combined it with the school cafeteria mentality of the modern pacific northwest (which i unironically love but is not ancient, rich, or complex). it has a sense of place for me. that being said, i would never consume it before midnight

[spice pelican]

Luther burbank park is pretty on MI but I don't think I'm going back there after a small altercation in the parking lot

[kindred rapids]

LA tacos are still too fresh in my mind

[fickle nexus]

Posting these images while most of us are stuck in Seattle is cyber bullying imo

I had an exciting mail day today

[flat ether]

didn't see anyone send out a gear signup spreadsheet so i went ahead and added a new sheet to the existing file: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ek1SLdSKuqpmNljZ5ZtUCB93xjxXMuN9oyJgxX2GtV4/edit?gid=22661769#gid=22661769

[quaint flint]

It's not fucking fair how pretty seattle is in the sunlight

What the fuck

[coarse imp]

Move to Seattle

[fickle nexus]

It’s like this for weeks!

[half badger]

It is seriously great for the few sunny months we have lol. Fall is beautiful too even though it rains a lot. Winter gets a bit depressing, but isn't the worst tbh. Winter in Missouri was much more depressing haha

[obsidian folio]

Do we need to bring our own carafe tomorrow @half badger ?

I don't really want to bring it to save some space in my backpack but I can if you don't have enough there.

[fair stag]

Winter this year was super mild

my garden this year got a very early head start with those brief random hot/sunny days lol. especially my garlic/shallots, they grew really fast

[half badger]

Honestly, probably fine without it. I have 2x larger carafes (icosa & kelita) and 6x smaller kintos

I have some glasses, but I broke most of mine during my event with mirror But I have paper cups too

[azure olive]

I take it this is a California spin on taco time, but where’s the ranch and tater tots?

[fallow plume]

is anyone else bringing a kettle tomorrow? I can bring mine but it kinda sucks

[flat ether]

if we're short scales/kettles i can bring mine as well

[manic portal]

just realized i can't make this one everybody have fun for me tomorrow!

[dawn shadow]

I can bring a scale and kettle. I will add to the list soon

[fallow plume]

the sea of zp6s coming

[flat ether]

oh wow a third zp6 has hit the meetup sign-up sheet

[fallow plume]

might buy another just to bring

[flat ether]

maybe i keep mine home lol

[dawn shadow]

Watch us all think there are too many and end up with 0

[flat ether]

i'll remove mine from the spreadsheet just to make it clear. on the flip side i feel like if you have smth on the spreadsheet it means you're committing to bring it

[obsidian folio]

I just received mine yesterday but I'm not bringing it

Saw it coming miles away

[fallow plume]

100%

[quaint flint]

This might be goat behaviour for sellin me this for only 11.49 after taxes

[quaint flint]

So, the induction stove at my accommodation broke

...who wanna take the rest of my groceries?

[vague portal]

thought of bringing mine for the joke at this point

[fallow plume]

I would if you have a substantive amount lol

[exotic horizon]

I'm so broke I would love some free food

[kindred rapids]

Pretty sure it's BYOR. Will ask next time...

[quaint flint]

Question is how am I gonna bring all of the stuff to the meetup

[half badger]

Okay, so meetup deets:

Address: 1287 westlake ave n, seattle 98109

Please enter on westlake not on Dexter. It's a lot easier for me to let you in/get you on westlake.

There's lots of free parking on westlake if you drive. The 40 takes you to the entrance on westlake if you transit.

Door code: 0337. If you can't get in with that, my wife's is 0419. You can also call the front desk and wait in the lobby

Just wait in the lobby until I can grab ya. Takes a bit for me to go down lol

I'll be setting up around 10. Officially starting at 11, but feel free to drop by earlier. Trying to wrap up around 2:30 🙂

[vague portal]

Hey all, gonna have to cancel today sorry. Anything with buttgoblin on the sheet is out

[coarse imp]

Prolly will come by early and leave early this time

[half badger]

Okay, as a heads up, someone is using the space I normally use for an Eid Mubarak party, so we'll be using a slightly smaller space (where I've been doing brew bars and events usually if you've been to them). It's a bit smaller with less plug-ins, but it'll work. Sorry! Reservations are kinda weird here, but usually no one uses it 😅

We can also use the roof, but idk if people want that

[coarse imp]

At the front door!

[dawn shadow]

Ok. Will be rolling in at 11, just save me a plug for the kettle and Sculptor

[obsidian folio]

I'm in the lobby.

[half badger]

Coming down

[fallow plume]

heading there now

[toxic sail]

Would it be worth me still showing up to bring the Z2 ya think or given the constrained space or maybe another time?

I wouldn’t be coming to drink coffee since I stop by 10am but more than happy to drop by. Also see you’ve already got the Lagom 01 beast there though lol

[dawn shadow]

Here and out front

[half badger]

Coming down!

[half badger]

There's space for it if you want, but no worries if not 🙂

[quaint flint]

Fih

[fallow plume]

Just arrived out front

[half badger]

Coming down!

[fallow plume]

Sweet I got in and am by the very luxurious coffee maker in the lobby

[ruby laurel]

Lmao I'm here whenever you get a chance

I can wait by the elevators

[exotic horizon]

a whole fish??

[quaint flint]

Yuh

I bought it for $15

[spiral pilot]

I'm outside the building

[half badger]

Coming down 🙂

Is someone in the lobby? Looks like someone called, but i cant tell with the time lol

[quaint flint]

Help

I am at the lobby

My fih can't wait

@half badger HELP ME

[dawn shadow]

We'll be down in a sec!

[half badger]

Lol coming down

[exotic horizon]

I'm almost there

I'm outside, unsure how to get in lol

@half badger

😢

[azure olive]

I’d try calling the front desk if I were in your situation

[exotic horizon]

I don't think i need to call the front desk lol

[azure olive]

Haha okay, just making sure you aren’t stranded

[exotic horizon]

nah I'm just outside the front door waiting

[azure olive]

I had time conflicts but at the moment I’m watching Pepe’s cupping video, he mentioned linking up with exposure therapy through Jacob 🥹

[half badger]

@exotic horizon give me a sec!

Sorry!

[flat ether]

@half badger one of my plus ones is here! @fresh helm

[fresh helm]

Hey @half badger i am here outside the community. Don't know how to go in

[exotic horizon]

@half badger @quaint flint how's the fish goin

[half badger]

@exotic horizon finishing up! He forgot to cook some morels

We'll be up soon lol

[spiral pilot]

@half badger I left my down jacket on the sofa, I can come grab it later tonight!

[hard crypt]

It was a fun meet!

[quaint flint]

Fih

[fallow plume]

fih

[quaint flint]

Thanks a whole lot guys! Especially to @exotic horizon and @half badger , I'm actually gonna be missing Seattle pretty bad

[flat ether]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-spin-confetti-fishy-spinning-gif-2147613004635078456

[clear iron]

ope haven’t checked this thread in a hot minute and missed the meetup

[quaint flint]

OH GOD I DON'T LIKE SAN JOSE

LET ME BACK

[odd surge]

Is there anything going on in seattle this weekend?

[azure olive]

At Gloom. You can tell a cafe’s just opened because the tables are empty and the bar is full of mid-30s guys asking questions

[fickle nexus]

When did they open? I’m excited to check it out

I can also contribute to the amount of guys in their 30s asking questions

[azure olive]

Soft opened yesterday

[fickle nexus]

Dang I could’ve gone yesterday

[azure olive]

I think it’s more of a medium roast that they would call a light roast, but still good. The Kenyan pourover I got is very grape and blueberry

[stuck juniper]

Who’s tryna go Friday 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spice pelican]

Ooh maybe should go this weekend

[stuck juniper]

I know they are opened Monday - Friday for the time being. So I’ll probably go Friday if anyone wants to grab a coffee 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spice pelican]

Ahhh thanks for the info, I'll have to find a Friday to go on

[dawn shadow]

I was considering going tomorrow since I have it off

I also have Friday off, but need to wait around for Fiber installation 🛜

We're not bullying them into roasting lighter, are we?

[azure olive]

It’s a cafe between my bus stop and office that has good coffee so I’m happy with it as is, but I support any and all bullying campaigns

[vapid current]

Hahahahahahaa

I’ll be on bar open to close tomorrow and Friday - happy to receive any bullying you’ll throw my way

Genuinely excited to meet or re meet y’all

[azure olive]

Love the store, also if I said anything mildly critical about it in the past its because my account was hacked by an elite hacker known on the dark web as “coffeereviews”

[half badger]

I'll try and swing by on Friday to check it out!

[stuck juniper]

I signed a “No Place for Hate” antibullying campaign in high school. So I’m not allowed to bully 🤷🏻‍♂️

[vapid current]

Oh you’re all good there’s no way anything said was more critical than I already am about myself and what we’re trying to do

[odd surge]

I could swing by friday if we're all meeting up

wknd would be much better for me tho

[spice pelican]

if that happens, May meet up came early and I can bring my mystery Aussie beans lol

[odd surge]

I can bring some current stuffs from rki and hooray

and some test roast panama ive got on hand

[half badger]

What time is everyone gonna be there on Friday?

[gritty knoll]

What is everyone’s fav coffee shop in Seattle?

[fickle nexus]

The original Starbucks, the one in pikes place. I love driving there on a saturday morning

[modern trellis]

I do like a caffe nico at the espresso vivace on broadway for dessert

[lethal copper]

incredibly biased but my friends are the owners of url and i used to frequent it a lot back in college

[flat ether]

airworks brew bar ||(not sponsored)||

[dawn shadow]

I worked at the original Ladro in Upper Queen Anne for a short while. Still have a soft spot for it.

[gritty knoll]

I haven’t been able to go, but I really wanna go to push pull

[gritty knoll]

Can you just show up or do you need an appointment?

[obsidian folio]

They have an event calendar for people to register.

The events for may should be out soon.

https://linktr.ee/airworkscoffee

[half badger]

Going to Vancouver (bc)

[half badger]

Yeah, you need to rsvp. I'll post events for may soon, but we don't have that many this month (April was slow and we'll be in nyc for some of may)

[potent stump]

Url’s food is also fantastic. It’s the closest cafe to me and their egg sandwich is divine

[half badger]

But real talk, the only cafes I actually like are day made, homage, & story coffee in Bellevue (if Joe is there)

Url, numa, Analog and ancient gate are solid. And vivace is a classic and good for what it is

[lethal copper]

have only heard good things about homage, just sent them a package of samples too

wasn't around when i was back in seattle though

[gritty knoll]

Oh man. My father will be here end of May and your coffee shop experience sounds like something he would love

[fickle nexus]

Do you know what Joe’s schedule is there?

Now that the 2 line is open I’ve been going on the weekends, not sure if Joe has been there tho lol

[fickle nexus]

I went to url recently and it was super busy. If they stocked your coffee I would go way more

[lethal copper]

tell them :)

[manic portal]

i have also attempted and failed to catch joe

i think he was traveling a lot for woc and competitions

personally my favorite cafe is cardoon. the coffee is just ok (pretty good for seattle) but i like that they're reliably doing something weird

[fickle nexus]

Has anyone been to voxx? They have a cool sign

[fickle nexus]

I have been meaning to go there

[manic portal]

i think they used to have a spot in SLU near cornish that i've been to. coffee was true coal but it was a decent place to work

semi related, just saw that analog is stocking hydrangea now

[fickle nexus]

Holy that must be where my sub bag disappeared to this month lol

Im mega low on coffee and when i checked there last week they only had heart and something I hadn’t heard of

Crazy tiger or something like that

[manic portal]

it's kinda crazy how mainstream hydrangea's gotten. i saw them mentioned in the new yorker a couple months back and it blew my mind. but now they've truly broken the last frontier of coal

[manic portal]

i might swing by around 11, 11:30?

[odd surge]

2pm?

[spice pelican]

Hydrangea has even made it out to Aus and apparently selling out

[azure olive]

Homage I love but any farmers market day turns it into hell, way too many people

Day made is great and the affogatos are back on the menu

Favorite cafe is whatever u district cafe id go to before lsat classes in 2012 but i do not remember their name. They used kuma beans

[lethal copper]

hmm

im curious to know what it was lol

there arent that many shops in ud

[azure olive]

Trabant Coffee and Chai, closed at some point

I google image searched "u district cafe" and scrolled until memories were triggered

I think they served 49th parallel at a pioneer square location and kuma in the u district for reasons I don't understand

[lethal copper]

hm havent heard of that one, past my time i suppose lol

back when i was in college i'd really only go to URL and fresh flours (they serve onda origins?)

actually i used to visit that one spot in fremont frequently too... forget the name though

[azure olive]

milstead and co?

that's the first fancy multiroaster cafe in seattle I was aware of

[lethal copper]

ah yeah that's it lol

i first went there because they were selling my uncle's coffee and he told me about it

back when i had no real conception of coffee/specialty coffee

i would always order a pourover and not know aeropess was not pourover lol

[azure olive]

uncle roasts coffee... neponephew much

[lethal copper]

my aunt (different side of the family from that uncle) also owns a coffee shop in snohomish lol

emphasis on coffee because it's more like a korean cafe and bakery that does good food but also has a custom 3 group mavam and pulls probably poorly extracted caffe vita custom blend coal

uncle is founder of wrecking ball in sf tho

[dawn shadow]

Oh man. Trabant. I went there on my second trip to Seattle in 2014. Still have a Trabant pin somewhere.

The proprietor was very friendly, suspiciously friendly. It was a great experience but I did wonder afterwards if it was tied to a cult or something.

I think they were serving "white coffee" unless I'm mixing it up with the cult cafe in Ithaca NY

[azure olive]

updating my nick cho lore

[half badger]

Since we were talking about it, if you're not on ig, we just released our schedule for May events:

https://luma.com/user/airworkscoffee

Only got 4x happening locally (gonna be in nyc for a bit)

[fallow plume]

When is the homage cupping? It says 5/11 on the site, but the graphic says 5/20 or something

[half badger]

Thanks for the catch 😅 its on 5/11

[fallow plume]

Sweet thanks man

[uncut harness]

are you having any events in NYC 👀

[half badger]

Yes! I'll be at driftaway on the 15th and suited on the 16th! Driftaway will post an rsvp for it soon, but suited is just a walk up event 🙂

[uncut harness]

urgh

the one weekend I'm out of town lol

[obsidian folio]

Just opened my bag of h&s and surprisingly it tastes nice at day 35.

Got some wheatgrass ptsd at the april meetup from another more rested bag of the same coffee

Intensity is not that strong (maybe cause I'm using 1:17.5 ratio, or it needs more rest), but no wheatgrass

yay

the room has a lovely brown sugar smell after brewing

[fallow plume]

I will take the blame for that. I didn’t push the extraction hard enough on the brew, forgot I was working with an H&S 😅

[obsidian folio]

don't blame yourself too hard. I remember the bean from that bag also smelled like total wheatgrass as well 😅

whereas mine smelled like some good coffee

not sure if there is some per-batch difference

[fallow plume]

It’s funny you brewed this today, I actually made a cup of my buddies coffee, his was roasted 4/11 and it tasted surprisingly great

It had all the shapes of a super delicious coffee, just not quite there yet

[fickle nexus]

Ok I need help with the shoebox. It absolutely loves to stall. I’ve tried doing a 5+ super aggressive pours at a 5.5 on a zp6 and it’s still insanely slow. 92c water as well

The only thing that’s worked so far is doing all that with tsibarist fast filters which brings it into the realm of normalcy for regular papers lol.

Today I tried cafec t92s and had a 9 minute brew

[half badger]

Do 4x pours instead of 5. Which coffee was this? And what roast date?

Also, by aggressive do you mean fast flow rate or lots of agitation/spiraling? I think flow rate is the important thing here not the latter

[fickle nexus]

High flow rate, but I’ve also been doing agitation. Should I do only one or the other?

Roast date is 3/26

Has not been frozen

[manic portal]

which coffee is it?

producer/process?

[manic portal]

makes sense, washed mejorados can be fine-y

i'd go down in pours too. newer shoebox ime can take like maybe a 4-5 minute brew time but 9 is too much

you can always try it all the way at the opposite end of the brewing approach spectrum (something like medium grounds, one minute bloom + one pour at ~7ml/s) to see if you can get it into fast mode

i haven't had this one but just going off the notes it kind of looks like a coffee that wants high extraction tho

[obsidian folio]

oh no t92 if the brew is already slow lol

[manic portal]

oh wait, is t92 the super slow one?

[obsidian folio]

yep

[manic portal]

yeah don't use the super slow mode if you don't want super slow lol

[fickle nexus]

I thought the 92 is the fast one, the t80 is the slow one

With tsibarist fast papers it’s closer to 4 minutes but those usually draw down in 2 minutes for me lol

[fickle nexus]

And to do that you’d do 1 pour?

lol yeah I have the cafecs completely backwards. I’ve only ever used the t90s and I heard 92s were for light roast and assumed they were fast, they’re apparently intentionally slow so not sure what the logic is there

I’ll try a t90 tomorrow and if that doesn’t change anything I’ll go back the tsibarists

[obsidian folio]

Fast to slow: T-83, T-90, T-92

[obsidian folio]

Their note on the packaging is confusing. Elysia Tan, the Singapore brewer champion, said she use the paper in reverse

T-83 for light, T-92 for dark, T-90 when you don't know what to use

[fickle nexus]

I knew I should’ve bought some 80s too lol

[manic portal]

nah, one pour is low extraction. i’d just try it out at both. my 100% uninformed vibe check is that it wants a more aggressive approach, but try it and see

the roast level thing i think makes sense for osmotic flow where you won’t get a ton out of a light roast without help. but i don’t know if anybody besides mr. cafec truly understands osmotic flow

[fickle nexus]

Ok our vibes are in alignment then. I decided to try more pours for more agitation and more extraction, so was curious why you suggested fewer. I usually just do bloom+2, so that’s where I started

[fickle nexus]

I’m also curious if “newer” here means not rested or if he’s changed roast styles recently. I figured 6 weeks was enough rest time for this but maybe not?

Idk how people taste whether something has rested enough yet

[half badger]

Try high flow rate with less agitation, 4x pours instead of 5x. I've never had a brew from them go over 5 min. I aim for 3m for most of my brews too. The Mario hervas mejorado I had from them a while back was kinda stally and needed to be ground a bit coarser, but still finished under 4m. I use hario tabbed filter usually. My zp6 never generated that many fines, but I also kinda hated it so I barely used it 😅but maybe yours is generating a lot of fines. You're using a v60, right?

[half badger]

I've been doing 8 weeks lately. Their roasts have been lighter as of late (though I had some from around that time that are already ready)

[fickle nexus]

lol maybe I’ll sit on it longer then

Using an 02 size v60 yeah

15g

[manic portal]

to me an unrested roast tastes like 1) actual grass or 2) kind of an unfocused, blurry version of a specialty coffee. hard to explain the second one but when i brew and nothing is obviously unusual, i have some expectations about the flavor and when they’re not met i usually guess underrested

[fickle nexus]

Maybe everything I drink is under rested lol

Or I need the tongue equivalent of glasses

[obsidian folio]

Should just have come to our April meetup

We got plenty of grass there

[fickle nexus]

We managed to schedule it right on top of some plans I made months in advance lol

I have experienced hay grass notes for sure though and this isn’t doing that

[flat ether]

my bad for pulling through with oops all january shoebox

[obsidian folio]

A leftover Yessica Parra gesha I received at the end was good tho. I made two brews of 11.5g myself and I liked it.

[flat ether]

and then proceeding to underextract a few of them before realizing @dawn shadow's zp6 and mine differ by like 5 clicks despite similar calibration 💀

[flat ether]

helps that it's a pretty warshed coffee so the grass isn't as prominent there lmao

[dawn shadow]

I sabotaged in the name of grass

[flat ether]

we were co-conspirators in this sabotage i fear

[toxic sail]

I’d give the T90s a shot Jehu I don’t think rest is the problem as far as stalling, but I only say that because I open a lot of my shoebox around 2-4 weeks. Unless the problem you’re trying to deal with is you’re getting a bunch of grass notes? When I was waiting for my Z2 I was using a ZP6 and never had stalls including with that same coffee fwiw at 5.5.

My baseline brew for every coffee is 1 bloom, 2 pours, 15g/250g.
1st pour 50g
2nd pour up to 150g
3rd pour up to 250g (gentle swirl)

Flow rate is about 5-6 g/sec around 4” from the bed. TBT is always 2:30-3:30 depending on the coffee. Really hope this helps

[obsidian folio]

I also got the impression that washed mejorado is prone to stalling. A previous one from sey is super slow. My current la papaya from hydrangea is the same.

The first brew of v60 takes 3:10 and is a little bitter

Probably found a good use of sibarist fast sample pack from my AW order

[modern trellis]

does anyone have a spare 54mm tamper laying around? just got a bambino plus for my partner and the stock tamper is rough

[obsidian folio]

I went to story in bellevue today, and I understand the importance of Joe being there...

Their other team members don't really have a good idea about their beans 😂

but their pourover is actually not bad

[dawn shadow]

I had two wild coffees there, and they were a bit much for me. I'd like to go back when Joe is there for something washed and more delicate

[obsidian folio]

One thing that surprised me is how heavily fermented the yunnan catimor was. I wouldn't be surprised if someone told that was el diviso

(or it actually was el diviso, I don't know )

tasted much better than average catimor, if you ignore the booziness...

[dawn shadow]

I had two Campo Hermoso coffees. Very good, but heavy on the processing flavors.

[obsidian folio]

yeah, that's what you expect from campo hermoso. My colleague also said the same about the IPA gesha earlier

we ordered two other cups today, a natural costa rica, a washed janson. Those two were nice.

It is a little more developed light roast, probably to focus more on the sweetness

but it is still nice at lower temperature

[dawn shadow]

I've just had a lot of really good cups of coffee at home lately. Hard to beat an Airworks subscription and a Sculptor 078.

[obsidian folio]

That's for sure. We can brew much better coffee at home at lower cost.

[dawn shadow]

Ah, lower cost? Well..

[obsidian folio]

i don't know if it is my problem, I'm actually impressed more often by the coffee on the cheaper end rather than the more expensive end

[dawn shadow]

1 kilo very rested coffee

[azure olive]

Is there drinkable coffee in McMinnville Oregon? I’m going on a family trip where I will get made fun of for bringing a pourover kettle

[obsidian folio]

Bring an orb so you won't need a pourover kettle

[fickle nexus]

Oh boy I love McMinnville lol

I haven’t been in years but there seem to be some decent places on Google Maps

[manic portal]

weirdly, it is where finca mikava does their own-brand roasting. i don't think their roastery is open to visit though

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTDK8K_BzAS/ no idea if they're still doing this but this might be the funniest place to buy competition geisha

[azure olive]

I messaged them in case they have a booth at the McMinnville ufo festival

Or if they had cafe recs

[dawn shadow]

I say bring the pour over set up. It's worth getting made fun of.

[azure olive]

I went to century cafe and had a 500ml pourover with mae coffee beans and now I’m too caffeinated

[long finch]

If you’re heading back via Portland, Proud Mary is worth it for their food.

[shadow token]

stop at PDX Coffee Club, Slow Haste, No Pref, Push x Pull, or Heart on your way back into town lol

[azure olive]

I really want to check out pdx coffee club but I’m with a family of people with no interest in coffee so we’ll see if I can sell them on a Portland stop

[kindred rapids]

of those 5 I've only been to Push x Pull and Heart...time to get to work on the way to and back from Bend

[signal goblet]

Was just in Portland yesterday. Had Slow Haste for the first time, serving Hydrangea. Pretty good.
Prince Coffee is becoming one of my favorites in town

[crisp bone]

Portland peeps gotta try Mae

[crisp bone]

https://maecoffeeroasters.com/roastery

[azure olive]

Yeah I liked the Mae I had at Century Cafe in McMinville

[signal goblet]

I totally forgot about them. Going back to Portland in a few weeks and will definitely try to stop by

[dawn shadow]

I stayed right nearby there the last two times I was in PDX and somehow never found them. It's on my list now.

[flat ether]

fwiw i've been brewing some mae since they're this month's mystery coffee league roaster and my first brew presented smoky enough where it was pretty heavily encroaching on my ability to taste through the roast and, like, guess its origin/notes :/ maybe / hoping i can ey-min out the smoke while keeping the nice stuff there

[azure olive]

they had the mystery coffee and from the tasting notes I heard I declined to try it

[flat ether]

they're giving out mystery coffee notes for free? 🙈

(obv keep them to yourself lol)

[azure olive]

I won’t report the barista involved

[lethal copper]

anything happening in seattle in early september? 👀

[dawn shadow]

You gonna be in town??

[lethal copper]

first week of september yes

then i'll be heading to LA/OC to do a popup at commons in irvine!

[crisp bone]

Are there Seattle shops that sell your coffee?

[lethal copper]

no there are not, i wish there were!

[half badger]

Yo, if I did a filter comparison this weekend, would anyone want to come by? I tried to do a paid event, but not enough people rsvp'd so I canceled. I'm testing out someone's new filter and wanted to compare it against every filter I have because I'm crazy, but that's a lot of coffee just for me 😅 so a free event I guess? Or just come by and share some coffee so I don't drink 10 cups by myself 🤣

[coarse imp]

Interested. When?

[potent stump]

Id be very down if it’s saturday morning

[half badger]

Could be sat or Sunday. Whatever works for more people tbh

[dawn shadow]

Very down!

[half badger]

For anyone interested, lemme know what day would be better for you 🙂

[half badger]

Jk, its gonna be Saturday since I have a brew bar I forgot about on Sunday 😅

[quaint flint]

seattle's gonna be the only city i miss from america fr

[half badger]

I'm thinking Saturday at 10am. That work for everyone? I can do later too 🙂

[long finch]

At your place?

For those of us not within stumbling distance… 🙂

(Apparently WSDOT got trolled and the Waterfront Marathon is not a thing)

[half badger]

Yep!

[fallow plume]

lfg thank you for your service my friend

[native jackal]

I'm actually planning to be in Seattle on Saturday (even though I don't particularly want to leave Renton this weekend). Where would a reluctant enthusiast find this place?

[obsidian folio]

Search for airworks coffee on google maps, the address there is correct

1287 N Westlake Ave, iirc

[half badger]

And my door code is 0337 🙂 0419 is my wife's and also works

[scenic heart]

@shadow token which of these do interesting lights or coal only?

Slight off topic: prepping a PDX trip, looking for good eats spots in addition to the coffee places I got above 😇

[shadow token]

pdx coffee club and slow haste for sure

and if you're staying in northwest portland - less and more off of 5th ave for the location alone

most portland roasters probably roast coal by bana standards

[half badger]

Oh, also please bring your own cup if you want a non paper cup. I'm being lazy and don't want to do more dishes before my next event 😅

[spice pelican]

Can't make it tomorrow but would be interested in the results of the paper testing 😊

[dawn shadow]

Anything else we should bring tomorrow? I have some home roast but I wouldn't call it delightful

[obsidian folio]

Or if you want some challenges to the filters. I have some super finey coffee which I can take with me.

[quaint flint]

AAAHHHH BRING ME BACK I HATE IT HERE ALREADY

[dawn shadow]

Can we set up a roaster residency program for @quaint flint? I don't have a spare room but I have the Bullet to lend.

[half badger]

I think I'm good 🙂

Gonna brew a kinda finey Big Sur Ethiopian. And if I'm feeling motivated I'll also brew a sey coffee. I feel like it would be good to brew something ul and something more standard light

[dawn shadow]

Everyone is jumping on the free coffee event weekend - https://www.instagram.com/p/DYno7bQv0Jo/

[coarse imp]

I can bring the thankfully copa de oro champion

[dawn shadow]

I'll be a few minutes late @half badger but I am on the way

[obsidian folio]

Got to the lobby just now.

[native jackal]

Just parking now

[potent stump]

Should be there within 5

[long finch]

ETA 10.30

[half badger]

Sounds good! Grabbing my things real quick then will meet everyone here!

For people who are late, I'll keep an eye out for you!

[dawn shadow]

Here now

[half badger]

Coming down!

[long finch]

Am outside.

[half badger]

Coming down!

[native jackal]

Me with my coffee.

[coarse imp]

Just arrived

Crossing the street

[long finch]

Jacob is heading down shortly.

[azure olive]

I have errands to run this morning but I eagerly await findings on filters

[gritty knoll]

Is there a way to know in advance when Joey will be there?

Sorry, Joe*

[dawn shadow]

I'm not sure - luck of the draw. Maybe someone else would know if he has typical hours there?

[manic portal]

i think he travels a lot so it’s kind of random

[azure olive]

lol I ordered from a very nice young man who did not seem up to the task of doing a $15 pourover, luckily joe seemed to feel summoned and popped out from the back to do it

he posted about hiring recently in a way that seemed tailored to getting someone who knew their stuff so maybe he'll have a backup

[obsidian folio]

I have to say their pourover is on the pricey end (considering the coffee they use)

although last time the three cups we ordered were brewed well enough

[azure olive]

I get coffee at cafes like once a month tops so I’m maybe the least price sensitive consumer, I have no idea what the going rates are

[long finch]

Happened to see this on IG 🙂 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/26-6247?utm_medium=paid&utm_source=ig&utm_id=52559597450186&utm_content=52559597448986&utm_term=52559597449586&utm_campaign=52559597450186

Market research for coffee. Pays $

[crisp bone]

My Seattle peeps, I’m gonna be in your area - U district - this afternoon. Can someone tell me where the really good modern flavors coffee shops are? For comparison I’m from the Portland area and I like PDx coffee club, slow haste, and Sometimes coffee.

[fickle nexus]

Ancient Gate is probably your only chance in u district

If you want tea though the you’re in the right spot

[crisp bone]

It doesn’t have to be university district, it could be somewhere north or south of that, we will be around that area, but have some flexibility if there is a place similar to the shops I mentioned

[manic portal]

seattle is kind of weird in that all the places where there are decent coffee shops are also the ones that are hard to get to

the usual recommendations are homage in ballard and daymade in pioneer square, both pretty far away from the u district. besides ancient gate, the closest specialty shop i can think of is analog in capitol hill (a train ride across the cut)

ancient gate is pretty aight for a seattle shop tho

[fickle nexus]

Santo in Roosevelt is the next easiest decent place I can think of

[manic portal]

oh yeah i like santo! ancient gate better tho

[fallow plume]

I'm responding to you on reddit knowing you're here in this thread too lol

where did you end up going?

[crisp bone]

Nice, we will go to Santo since we are here and it’s close enough to what I’m hoping for. Would like to try Analog but traffic is crazy today and it would he way too much work for spro