medic-help

[minor magnet]

Depends on the question. If he asks whether Omega-3 supplementation could be beneficial for improving attention in ADHD, there could be a nice argument about it here! If it is a medical question regarding serious or concerning pathology, then a medical professional is indicated.

[devout stag]

Hmm I was just gonna ask if anyone knows why I’m always tired even when I sleep well, I don’t know if it’s cause I don’t really get sun in because I work from 6-9 or because of my diet, my life hasn’t really been the best, but I’m just tired of feeling so tired always and just so sad

[minor magnet]

Do you feel not well rested after waking up? Do you have difficulties sleeping in? Do you wake up during sleep? ~ trying to differentiate insonmia vs. hypersomnia vs. ...

Lack of sunlight is a good hypothesis!

Many questions to explore your sleep hygiene:

• Sleeping at regular hours?
• Pre sleep routine?
• Use of medications, drugs or coffee and stimulants?
• Other medical antecedents (for example hormonal issues, any thyroid medication or issues, anemia, difficulties breathing, ...)
• Psychological stress? Nightmares? Panic Attacks? PTSS ? Anxiety...
• If sleeping with partner, do they notice you moving? waking up? Snoring? ...
• Use of bedroom (some people work in their bedroom, watch movies etc. )
• Excercise near bedtime? Other Activities near bedtime?
• ....

Do not answer these questions in the chat if you're uncomfortable! You may use it to think about your current sleep hygiene, perhaps find ways to improve!

If still troubled, you can always consult your general practitioner/family physician!

[devout stag]

I go to sleep at a pretty consistent basis, around 9:30 to 10 and I wake up at 5

[devout stag]

I am a bit stressed but that’s cause of work I try not to think about work when I’m home

[devout stag]

Sometimes I do exercise an hour or 2 before bed since I have so little free time

[minor magnet]

btw please do not share personal details! Hahaha

[devout stag]

Oh your good

[devout stag]

I mean sometimes I’ll listen to music for a bit

[devout stag]

Like while laying in bed

I also eat at night like a big meal

[minor magnet]

Interesting! For some this can be trouble if done to close to bedtime!

Most probable it is a combination of factors, all contributing a little to the general feeling of tiredness. I highly recommend you consult a certified doctor with this! Since they can also check for other reasons on physical exam!

Reading your messages, you seem to really have thought it through! I have hope for you, I wish that you will sleep well again :))

[devout stag]

Yea Im just really tired always

[minor magnet]

What about during vacations?

[devout stag]

Like I’ll be standing at work and I’ll be falling asleep standing

[devout stag]

Uh I don’t have those

[minor magnet]

Wow?! Weekends?

Do you feel as if you are overworked?

Do you still have time for (social) activities that you might enjoy?

(again these questions you should answer for youself, please do not respond if you are not comfortable sharing it with 'the world' watching)

you may also visit #venting if you would like advice or people's tricks that they might have used!

[devout stag]

Uh no

I don’t really have any friends or anything I just work

[devout stag]

A bit

[minor magnet]

Okay, I'm not sure how it works where you live. Generally family physicians will explore this issue with you! They will try to figure out the factors contributing to the tiredness and make a plan with you that will gradually bring back energy!

You have done an amazing job thinking about the probable causes. I encourage you to take this with you to the doctor and explore the issue!

Are you able to make an appointment with a GP (doctor)?

[eternal moon]

It might be because youre not getting enough oxygen when you sleep (especially if youre obese this is a risk), might be something else affecting sleep quality, you might not be getting enough exercise, you might have poor nutrition, you might have low blood sugar (if you are really skinny or take in a lot of artificial sugar), or maybe youre taking in too much caffeine and its wearing you down.

[reef yacht]

what is the general consensus on HRT for combatting loss of bone density in postmenopausal women?

[umbral current]

Hi, I am not sure if it is right place to post in here but, I'd like to know what Medical coder, or Psychologist, Other fields of doctor using Hardware and software? If there anybody that kind of occupational workers in here. I'd like to know raw opinions. The reason is that,

1. Medical hardware software liker. (That white and 4:3 inch monitor vibes)
2. I'd like to make more efficient my time.
3. I'd like to more organized.

->more specific
1
・I saw "Medical coder" on the YT, and I felt kinda cool.
・I feeling like organizing is getting one of my hobbies, habit, ritual for me.
・I'd like to know about devices which is Monitor(brand, inches, color etc), Keyboard and Mouse etc. Also softwares.
2.
・I tried to notion, discord server, libreoffice and physical note pad etc but, most of them still feels not suits for me.
・I'm eager to be more meticulousness, accuracy.
3
・The upper 3 itself. That is all.

Thank you.

emo-psych

[eternal moon]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12104296/

From what I was seeing.. HRT stops post-menopausal women from losing bone density to menopause. Exercise, inlcuding resistant training, increases bone density and helps grows it. Both combined has good results.

[bleak tendon]

I want to find a hot blondies guys groupe chat which one is it?

[livid lintel]

my lecturer is telling me that the anterior surface of the knee is dorsal?? and the posterior is ventral? and that this is an exception? has anyone else heard of this because i feel like ive never heard of this before idk i might be losing my mind

[loud plover]

Hello this is not a dating server

[covert dirge]

Some advices for pharmacology pls!!
I'm losing the battle haha :///

[jade moat]

anybody doing IMD?

[lament vine]

im taking the course right now so im right there with you !! need some tips too... its hard to memorize all the specific drug therapies...

[hearty gate]

Idk , maybe those phrases are referring to the knee when it bends ,

[trail sandal]

try sketchy for pharmac, its really good and will help you rmb for longg time

[wet tinsel]

SKETCHY

[idle moth]

Honestly, Sketchy + Anki are your best bet

[idle moth]

if you happen to need more information for anything in particular, you can always reference Goodman's Pharmacology, it's long but that book is a gem.

[grizzled ibex]

Anatomy will GENUINELY be the end of my days
am I the only one who thinks head anatomy (excluding cns) is actual torture?
is ANYTHING worse?

[spring musk]

Use dr. Ashwinis lectures

[high parrot]

Im super late but what’s sketchy ?

[grizzled ibex]

way too slow tbh perhaps for complex topics like the cranial nerves or the brachial plexus

[idle moth]

Google Sketchy Medical.
They have videos that explain medical topics and are easy to memorize bc they use the memory palace method. You can search a video on YT, I'm sure there's a couple of free ones there that can explain better than I do

They don't go into as much detail as books but they give sufficient high yield info for boards

[elfin granite]

I love the brachial plexus yummy noodles

[gloomy kernel]

helloo
this isnt a medic related ques really but if anyone has the time to respond, I'd like to know what made you guys choose med?
I just finished hs and i dont know where im supposed to go. I'm kinda looking towards med so i just wanted to know what 'solidified' your decision to go on this path?

[gentle idol]

Hey there, I’m looking for a genuine studying partner for the preparation of USMLE, I’m planning on taking this exam by the end of this year, I need someone with whom I can discuss stuff and who keeps me motivated and maybe do some revisions together. I sometimes get inconsistent and distracted, so having a partner would really help.

[slate eagle]

I know my answer is cheesy
But I’ve shadowed few doctors and even visited the ER during a live case ongoing(brain injury due to crashing a car)
The atmosphere and how the whole process works really fascinated me honestly and the general curiosity for the human body. However it’s also the fun at uni honestly.

[proud sable]

<@&942391219206647828>

[loud plover]

Thanku hun

[hallow kayak]

i chose it bc i'd always liked science and i also loved the speaking to people part of waitressing and my mum had been a nurse. im abt to graduate and i will say i think its important you have a strong reason for wanting to do it bc it can get pretty hard and exhausting and idk what country you're in but at least in mine its lost a lot of the job security that also appealed to me. you need to have a good enough reason to fall back on when you are completely unmotivated and things get hard and exhausting bc if ur reason is to help people there are definitely easier ways to do that

i absolutely love it though

but it can be rough when your friends work normal jobs and get weekends off and only have to worry about a 9-5 when you have to do a 9am-9pm or 9pm-9am etc

would v much recommend trying to get some work experience and seeing if u think its something youd enjoy

[vital galleon]

Does anyone have sketchy pathology videos?

[neat notch]

maybe if you supply resources to notebook llm, it can cook something for you.

[winged swallow]

hi ! do you know good ai tools to work with that are free? i have been using chatgpt but maybe there are others out there that are maybe better. thanks 🙂

all i need usually is for it to explain certain pathologies, why x causes z, and do test practice

[modern cobalt]

perplexity! it gives you sources so you know what it says is true

or openevidence which was specifically created for healthcare professionals but I haven’t tested it yet

[modern cobalt]

.

[winged swallow]

thank u! i used open evidence, but unfortunately i have read news all week that is going to shut down.

Only in Europe, where i am from so

[lethal nymph]

<@&942391219206647828>

[dry orchid]

block him

[tranquil stratus]

Can you theoretically hibernate for a long time for space travel?

[jolly ingot]

Yea if you stop the body’s metabolic activity

Then the question becomes how do you do that? You can’t

But even if you did you only have a million years before you die from radiation poisoning from your bodys own radiation lol

[unborn junco]

first

[tough gyro]

second

[polar epoch]

third

[proud sable]

Mista doesn't like the previous message

[neat fossil]

Fourth

[scenic flume]

sixth ((whats this??))

[radiant crest]

legend 🙇‍♂️

[vagrant coyote]

not first

[proud sable]

8th

[runic escarp]

9th

[proud sable]

bro

[proud sable]

Med students/ and or doctors of the discord server, how’s med school, rotation etc. Thinking about going one of these days

Also what’s the best specialty you guys have liked so far

[violet forge]

anyone into optometry? been thinking about getting into it recently 👀 curious about other perspectives about ittt

[summer jolt]

10th

[flat rampart]

Diagnostic medical sonographer here if anyone needs help with anatomy :)

[uneven mural]

cool

[uneven mural]

league gang

[rich inlet]

14th

[reef compass]

Plz brief counter current mechanism 😩

[sharp zealot]

Hey guys

[fair bronze]

new channels!

[proud sable]

Man we need an Anki Channel

[rotund smelt]

Anyone in HOSA? I’m gonna be a junior next year, and I’m considering joining. Any advice?

[pliant crater]

I competed in Medical Math. Honestly, as long as you show up to weekly practices and do exercises, you should be set for the competitions

[rotund smelt]

Medical math? I know HOSA is a high school/college club for those who wanna pursue medical careers, but idk much about it. Could you give me an insight of it?

[tranquil axle]

Tips for memorizing nerves haha

[tranquil axle]

Learning has a lot to do with memorization. Also you need to be quite determined and study almost daily because of the knowledge amount. But it's really interesting if you like sciences, group work, and details/ in-depth understanding of a subject 🙂

[still helm]

i loved my experience with pediatrics!

but i'm also interested in family med, internal med, and possibly anesthesiology

[proud sable]

anyone here interested in Kinesiology? having a hard time trying to recall all the ROM's, MMT'S, and especially locations of muscles

[proud sable]

I love how they call it “family med” in the US. But it’s surprising because in the US people seem to look down on family med as a specialty, but in most of the rest of the world it’s called “General Practice” and it’s seen a quite a prestigious thing to be qualified as a “General Practitioner”.

[opaque jacinth]

Hey guys, I’m applying for med school in Brazil, and I’d love to hear about why you chose medicine or your experiences so far!

[light rose]

Anyone here doing MBBS or in any med school?

[flat rampart]

Here's some good diagrams for it! Not sure how detailed you need it to be. Youtube has some good tutorials. Also try drawing it while walking through the process

[flat rampart]

Mnemonics are going to be your best bet, as well as focusing on where they go and what their purpose is. Like, the cranial optic nerve is used for looking. "Optic" means "see" and brings signals from the eye to the brain to communicate what you see

[harsh fable]

Is there anyone here that started med school in France and then moved to the USA for a few years? cause I'm really thinking about doing it...

[wicked stream]

Im not in med school but im in the states and uni is sososo expensive here so if you find an affordable program and figure smth out go for it !! But just be prepared for all the expenses

[proud sable]

^ indeed.

for those who studied or are currently studying for the mcat, what anki decks do you recommend?

[charred torrent]

preparing for NEET?

[charred torrent]

or u can use the memory palace technique

[fringe terrace]

yep

[tranquil axle]

How do you do that exactly? 🤔

[brittle dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9IOqd1LpkA&ab_channel=Sprouts

[barren basin]

I have aphantasia, so this technique isn't very helpful. I feel like people with aphantasia need a special set of memory techniques. Mnemonics have been the most helpful for me.

[dapper maple]

I am a 4th year medical student in the US (MD). I am going to be a surgeon. If anyone needs any help with medicine, biochemistry, physiology, pathophys, pharm, micro, etc, let me know.

[halcyon compass]

oo good for you ! @dapper maple i'll definitely plan on asking you questions in the future. i'm currently working on my bs in microbio, and then med school if i can get in. my main concern right now is getting my extracurriculers in, (research, volunteering, clinical experience and shadowing) since covid has made things a little difficult.

[tall hatch]

Hello guys ! Anyone could share with us some references or any anki cards about Dermatology ? (Medical student from Algeria) thank you for all ❤️

[real bloom]

@dapper maple dude next year I going to study medicine, I would be a surgeon too. what would you do in my situation, before starting university? what would be your advice?

[proud sable]

hello im still studying (im in high school rn) to get into med school but my dream is to be a doctor one day. is med school really that hard? i'm willing to sacrifice my social life but i dont want to loose my mental health. any tips? 👀

[muted python]

My nr 1 tip for anyone applying to a school that will take most of your time for several years, is to build strong habits BEFORE you enter. A place in your dream school wont suddenly fix all your other problems: mental health, relationships, lack of physical activity, self-esteem issues etc. The list goes on.

You will get SO much more out of your education, if you try your best to have these aspects on at least a decent level before diving into the beautiful, but extremely difficult world of medicine.

Thinking about these important things and looking after yourself takes up a lot of mental space, which many people feel like is too much to handle together with the massive pressure studying medicine brings. There will come times during your education where you have to sacrifice some parts of your healthy habits (hopefully only for a short period of time), but it will be so much easier to get back into them, if they have been habits for years! Good luck 🤍

[proud sable]

thank you so much for this!! i think i have some time left to work on myself before studying my dream path of education 🧡 i dont have any friends that wanted to take a similar path to mine so it was kinda hard to find any emotional support and ask for an advice. thanks a lot 🙏

[fringe terrace]

What would you like to know about specifically? Dermatology is quite a vast branch just like the other clinical branches

[muted python]

Feel free to shoot me a dm if you ever need a chat! I can relate to the feeling of being very alone with the dream. Most of my high school friends ended up dropping this career path. Continue to work hard and keep your grades up, but don't forget to live a little! If you feel like you need a year off to work on yourself and maybe gather some money, trust your instincts. You only have to work for the rest of your life lol, there's no rush.
You got this 🤝

[proud sable]

thank you i'll dm you for sure! 😊 i'm glad i found someone that understands the struggle. it can get rough sometimes.

[fair bramble]

Hey not sure is this is the way to do this, but wanted to ask if anyone new about cancer therapies, specifically synthetic lethality?

[tall hatch]

I'm studying this branch now ! and I wanted to have some references in english in order to compare it with what I learn in french ( we're studying right now all about the bacterial dermatitis and atopic dermatitis, urticaria, drug eruption...)

[fringe terrace]

If you want something strictly for reference read Fitzpatrick's dermatology. It can slightly difficult to understand, especially if english isn't your first language,but it covers all possible disease under the sun. If you find that too difficult try reading Illustrated synopsis of dermatology by Neena Khanna. I've got the PDFs in case you aren't able to find them online or at your library.

[tall hatch]

Can you please send me the PDFs ? ([e-mail]) ❤️ thank you so much for all the advices

[lime inlet]

Hey guys! I'm a bit confused on how exactly CDK and cyclin work to regulate the cell cycle. Is it:
CDK-cyclin = off = NO cell cycle
CDK-no cyclin = on = GO cell cycle (if this is true, is CDK alone enough to push the cell cycle to progress?)
Is my understanding right? Would really appreciate clarifications 😂

[tiny plover]

Yardim

[harsh fable]

Thanks I've heard it and I'm still searching. I heard of à possible exchange 🤞

[wicked stream]

for sure!! some unis offer so pretty affordable exchange programs so it's just a matter of researching and finding one that fits the budget

[heavy arch]

Someone here is doing or studying medicine in Switzerland please ? :))

[uneven mural]

in the dna double helix the two nucleuic acid strands are held together by hydrogen bond between....

Its a bio question does anyone know :/

[heavy arch]

There is a multiple choices or not ? O.o

[uneven mural]

Cytosine and guanine

Nucleotides and pentose sugar

Purines and purines

Pyrimidines and pyrimidines

[tight flame]

I think for you purposes this would be the correct answer 🙂

[uneven mural]

Oh thanks 🙏

[proud sable]

How is med school, would you recommend?

[kindred cloud]

Hey - are there any psychiatrists/ studying to be psychiatrists out here?

[real bloom]

the medical career is not for smart people, it is for people who are not afraid of failure, because you are going to fall many times trust me, but what makes the difference between one person and another is that when you fall 7 times, you have to get up 8 times. That is what the career is all about, never give up!
Many people kill themselves to get high grades and deprive themselves of their favourite hobbies and to be with people special to them, the only thing that will give you problems, you have to keep in mind that those long 6 years are worth it, I prefer to be with people I appreciate and finish my career in 8 years or more than being 6 years depressed and with problems
take it easy.. and fulfill your dreams

[scenic flume]

those are words of experience and hope for medical students like us thnxxx

[tight cedar]

I have made a server for NEET aspirants! Dm for link.

[proud sable]

I didn't know you can stand up when you are already up mosh kashte are you genji

[subtle aspen]

Anyone preparing for neet pg ?

[inland coyote]

For UK based students, What is a stable BMAT score to have for Imperial med undergrad??

[unkempt wind]

anyone studying in Russia?

[sharp zealot]

Are you from KGZ?

[unkempt wind]

UZB

[tranquil axle]

CDK stands for Cyclin dependent kinase, it is active when bonded to cyclin and stimulates cell cycle

CDK is inactive when on its own

[reef compass]

Thanks 😭

[reef compass]

Link plz

[lyric comet]

im from russia

im new here and... what are you doing?

oh

i thought that its different chanels

well

[lime inlet]

thank you!!

[upbeat cove]

10[abc+78]-10.abc sonra 10 parantezine alıyorsun 10[abc+78-abc] sonra abc ler sadeleşiyor

[proud sable]

As someone that’s done a lot of research in to med school. I would say don’t be so focussed on one particular uni. A massive amount of people each year fail to get into one med school even with the minimum reqs of AAA for medicine. Focus on getting in. Med uni to unis the same.

[upbeat cove]

78i nasıl bulduğumu da söyliyim basamak analizi a ya 1 eklemek abc ye 100 eklemek digerlerinden 2 çıkarmak 22 çıkarmak 100-22=78

[inland coyote]

I know I am also looking into others but I can't seem to find the min on their website

so I was curious

[proud sable]

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/a100_imperial_college_london#incoming-1704423

Not publicly available but someone submitted an FOI request for it. They essentially said depends on year in good detail.

[inland coyote]

thanks

[tiny plover]

Tesekur ederim :)

[molten pine]

I am student from Manipur India is there any person studying mbbs in Russia

[proud sable]

What are corticotropins?

[sullen bolt]

A citation from NCI:
"corticotropin -
A hormone made in the pituitary gland. Corticotropin acts on the outer part of the adrenal gland to control its release of corticosteroid hormones. More corticotropin is made during times of stress. Also called ACTH and adrenocorticotropic hormone."

[proud sable]

Thank youuuu

If I can add a little information, this hormone is made by the adenohypophysis that is the anterior part of the gland

pituitary gland*

[proud sable]

Okay thank you

you're welcome

Whats hypergycemia?

It's the level of glucose in the blood

in med lab it's expressed in mg/dl

In Italy it's expressed in this way

But doesnt hyper usually mean excess?

yeah

in fact I was continuing

[proud sable]

Ohh sorry i cut you off

We can talk of hyperglycemia if this valor is over 110

obviously it's a convention, the pathologic condition has not a cut off

Ohh okay

Thanks for your help @proud sable

What are the symptoms of myxedema?

[hardy storm]

Anyone from any uk med schools with any recommendations?

[astral snow]

anyone from Brazil med school?

[sharp zealot]

Look at wiki

[timber palm]

hi dont share spotify links here go to #716802840345182320 thank you 😄

[frigid stirrup]

hii everyone does getting into zoology or becoming a zoologists involves the subject physics or math or just biology plus sum chemistry

[proud sable]

anyone from belgium?

[versed oxide]

Anyone good in biochemistry???

[proud sable]

Me

[proud sable]

in witch university are you ?

[proud sable]

you might need to tale pre-calc and basic physics as some universities require that as a prerequisite

[frigid stirrup]

oh ok

only in the first sem some calculus is needed right?

[proud sable]

depends on the universities

what country are you planning to study in?

[frigid stirrup]

im currently in india, in class 12 and planning to go into courses which doesnt have physics or maths in it and just bio and chemistry, so im planning to do zoology, then write the IELTS . so the country im tryna go is australia

im also thinking of biotechnology-

w the same procedure

[fallen frigate]

Maths are essential in all sciences 🙂

I have a degree in biology and currently a final-year medical student. We had a lot of biophysics, statistics, computational biology in my undergrad years

[proud sable]

uh, alright alright
there are some courses that dp not require you to have maths or physics in the coursework but be prepared to study them in freshman year, as they ARE needed

[proud sable]

i knowwww but yeah, not everybody likes maths, i know it’s essential but can’t force it

[frigid stirrup]

allright! tyy

[frigid stirrup]

true that

[fallen frigate]

Students usually have maths aversion because of how they were taught in high school. University professors usually teach them better, in a lot more underrstandabke and fun way

[frigid stirrup]

do u know any courses which only has bio and chem in it

[fallen frigate]

Understandable*

[frigid stirrup]

and obvioisly physics involved too*

obviously*

[proud sable]

uh i know Canadian universities, don’t know anything about australia

[proud sable]

there are great resources like ‘the great courses’ too, they are amazing, amazinggggg
used to hate maths, love it now

[fallen frigate]

A bachelors in Microbiology usually only mas basic math, a lot of biology and some biochemistry. Also only basic physics 🙂

[frigid stirrup]

ooh , pls do tell me about them. id like to know something about it too!

[frigid stirrup]

tyyyy!!!! 😊

[proud sable]

can i do it later?

i’ll surely get back to you

[frigid stirrup]

sure mate no worries, take yo time

[proud sable]

just can’t right now

[proud sable]

lol you’re already talking like aussies (no offence)

[frigid stirrup]

.

hahahahaha

none taken Imao

i have some australian online friends maybe thats why 🥲 🥲

[fair dragon]

is anyone here from medical school

??

[fallen frigate]

I am, hello!

[fair dragon]

can u help me for my doubts

[fallen frigate]

Sure, how can I help?

[fair dragon]

what are symptoms of charles bonnet syndrome

[fallen frigate]

Visual disturbances, usually

[fair dragon]

i had a doubt in my mcq that do hands tremble when temp rises in this syndrome?/

[fallen frigate]

It doesn’t usually affect the hypothalamic area of the brain, so temperature changes are not common

[fair dragon]

oh got it

does it affect visual cortex??

[fallen frigate]

Yes, it can

[fair dragon]

so in case if an emergency surgery is done on patient wjhat are chances that the patient will survive??

[fallen frigate]

Risk stratification for surgery depends on the type of emergency and the type of surgery to be done

[fair dragon]

what if person gets paralysed ?

[fallen frigate]

What’s the question, what if the patient gets paralyzed during the surgery? Or....?

[fair dragon]

if before surgery the patient gets paralysed then??

will patient survive ??

or get paralysed for his whole life?

[fallen frigate]

Yeah, the patient can survive, but it depends on how the patient got paralyzed in the first place

[fair dragon]

oh

[fallen frigate]

If a major nerve was injured or cut in half, then unfortunately the patient will not regain any motor or sensory functions

[fair dragon]

hmm got it one more QUE

if we inject levofloxacin to myasthenia gravis patient then will it be a sure test that he has mysthaenia as disease is not easily detectable

[fallen frigate]

Myasthenia gravis is diagnosed serologically and electrophysiologically, not through medication injections such as levofloxacin

[fair dragon]

it is

say

[fallen frigate]

But patients with MG often react poorly to fluoroquinolones such as levofloxacin.

So, if you inject a patient with levofloxacin and their condition worsens (muscle weakness), it can give you a clue that they may have MG, but it is not a confirmatory test

[fair dragon]

then what is confirmation test for mg

[proud sable]

ugent, you??

[fallen frigate]

Repetitive nerve stimulation and Electromyography

[fair dragon]

got it

thanks

[fallen frigate]

Sure, happy studying!

[fair dragon]

can i share my doubts frequently here ?

[fallen frigate]

Yeah, people are very helpful here! I’m not usually online, but I’m sure there are many med students that can help you if you have questions

[fair dragon]

fine

[frigid stirrup]

yep that is the reason i luv this discord study family out of all others

[proud sable]

UCL but it's at brussels. In witch grade are you ?

[proud sable]

im in my 2nd year, you?

[proud sable]

Me too. Your courses are in english or in dutch ?

[proud sable]

ayeeee, yeah my courses are in dutch. yours? french probably right?

[proud sable]

Yes in french, have you good grades? Or you are here to improve (a bit like me)?

[proud sable]

hahaha, my grades are good at the moment but i have to study a lot for my exams. so that's why im here

[proud sable]

ok ok, i wich you good luck with your exams. And if you have questions or a lack of motivation don't hesitate

[proud sable]

you too, good luck!! maybe we can help each other study sometime?

[proud sable]

Of curse, when you want, at the same time I would train my dutch

[proud sable]

add me so you can see when I'm connected

[frigid stirrup]

@proud sable u there bro?

[novel radish]

Yooooo

I'm a med student from Italy

How are u guys?

[pliant girder]

Hello pharm post grad student from algeria

[proud sable]

i sent a friend request!

[proud sable]

I accept you !

[sudden wraith]

Anyone doing first year mbbs I need a study buddy

[lament gyro]

2nd year medicina at ugent?

[proud sable]

yupp

[lament gyro]

Good luck with gastro en farmaco

[proud sable]

haha thanks, farmaco is kicking my ass... u study at u

at ugent too?*

[lament gyro]

how would I know you have farmaco and gastro in the 2nd semester of 2e Bach hehe

[proud sable]

true haha, are you in 2nd year too?

[lament gyro]

Ik zit in mijn master hehe

[sudden wraith]

???

[lament gyro]

Dit zijn flashcards van alle te kennen stofnamen in spelvorm, iedere avond eens spelen 😉 https://www.cram.com/flashcards/games/jewel/specialistische-farmacologie-11313400

Back in English - my apolgies -, farmaco is your basics you'll need to know em just like your anatomy 🙂

[proud sable]

omg thanks!!! any other tips to survive the exams haha?

also good luck to you for the rest of your master!!

[sudden wraith]

??

[sudden wraith]

???

[lament gyro]

thanks mate, tips? just make sure you know everything haha and be critical by applying the theory,do the voorbeeldvragen van vgk of the last 4yrs, what helps for me is calling with a mate and discuss the voorbeeldvragen

[lament gyro]

and this game is just gold, keep repeating trial/error, easy fun way and you'll know em

[proud sable]

yesss voorbeeldvragen save my life haha

thank you so much!!

[lament gyro]

So 2nd year and started directly in medicine?

[proud sable]

yupp, hbu?

[lament gyro]

yep

Awkward chatting in English over an international community to someone next door haha

[proud sable]

true hahaha

[inner epoch]

hi! is anyone here taking up a bioethics subject?

[timber palm]

hi i took bioethics last semester 🙂 but it depends on what major you are studying chances are its different.

[inner epoch]

i'm currently studying medical laboratory science! i was wondering if you have any thoughts about using data from unethical researches/experiments? :))

like is it unethical to use those data?

[timber palm]

yes id say its unethical. i think its important to practice gathering information or data from credible sources.

[oblique frigate]

yooo anyone familiar with lac operon

and transcription and translation

[long crag]

just add it wont let me text

@ebon oracle

[timber palm]

did you mean studying people and then some will die during the experiment?

if theres consent i think its okay? but only if the person is willing

[tight flame]

Hello there, does anyone have any tips for biochemistry II and III? I have problems memorizing all the steps and names of the reactions 🥲

[tulip sigil]

**There is a new rule (rule number 5), please read it before using the help channels! #rules **

[tardy nimbus]

if you're refering to the metabolism side of biochem(as i am not familiar w the subdivisions of I,II,III),it personally helps me talking all the pathways, from some common ones(Krebs and respiratory chain) to individual protein, lipid etc and draw them out. each time try to redraw the whole reactions. enzymes can be tricky, but start at least with the rate limiting ones

[tight flame]

Okay thanks, I'll try 😊

[cosmic sail]

Does anyone study anatomy online?, I'm dying :,

[fallen frigate]

Hi, what do you need help with?

[cosmic sail]

I have trouble understanding the innervation of each muscle and it gets confusing.

[fallen frigate]

what module are you in right now? What anatomical structures?

[cosmic sail]

Until time, neck, head and upper limb

[fallen frigate]

for muscles directly innervated by cranial nerves, it helps a lot if you know if the cranial nerves are purely motor, purely sensory, or mixed.

So for example, for the head muscles such as muscles of facial expression, they have both sensory and motor functions. They are innervated by the facial nerve which is a mixed nerve.

[vast girder]

anatomy is something that requires time to learn it, u cant cram it, u have to continue to revisit it in short bursts and you need to use as many mediums as possible to learn it - ie. read about it, watch videos and draw it yourself. A resource I used a lot back in medical school to help me do this was https://teachmeanatomy.info/ its free and has a good phone app too...i also highly recommend the netters anatomy books along with the moores clinical anatomy book

[fallen frigate]

As for the upper extremities, it helps if you've memorized the brachial plexus

[fallen frigate]

oh I've used this before! It's pretty good, and not too heavy on the phone. If I remember correctly, Netter's also has an online app. Though I think it's not for free?

[cosmic sail]

Thank you very much, I will keep it in mind.

[vast girder]

Also for the brachial plexus, this is the best video ive seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gPsHCflFfA

[vast girder]

ive never used the netters app tbh, but his drawings are second to none

[fallen frigate]

I also use Anatomy Atlas (Visible Body) on my ipad. It’s pretty interactive!

There’s a 3D model you can move around and strip down from muscle, bone, innervation, blood supply etc

[vast girder]

@cosmic sail as you can see theres a lot of resources out there in different mediums and you pick the few in each medium that work for you and run with it. Dont get too frustrated either, its not an easy thing to learn, but when ur on the other side of it you will def appreciate your efforts

[sullen bolt]

I can add two recommendations to those already mentioned:
https://www.kenhub.com/
and that you try moving muscles and speaking aloud like: "I am now moving my leg, signals are traveling from x nerve to y muscle, making it contract". It helped me a bunch, and you can easily add more complexity by mentioning more muscles, describing the nerve signal as it travels from the spinal cord etc.

[cosmic sail]

Thanks for your advices, I am using Moore and Netter and I hope to use TeachMeAnatomy and Visible Body

[cosmic sail]

Thanks, I will try to use that method

[fallen frigate]

Sure, good luck on studying!

[sullen bolt]

Yes, best of luck! You can do it! 💪

[frigid stirrup]

are there any med students or doctors here? if yes, can anyone pls tell if we drink coffee at night, why does our stomach ache after that

night means like around 11:40 pm- 1:00 am

[shell trellis]

The question often arises: can coffee be the cause of acid reflux – an extremely unpleasant condition when the acidic contents of the stomach are thrown back into the esophagus? If this situation is repeated constantly, they talk about gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), which is accompanied by frequent belching, swallowing disorders and heartburn due to irritation of the esophageal tissues with acidic stomach contents.

Some scientists do not find a connection between coffee and GERD, but some studies indicate that such a connection still exists. It is believed that the reaction of the stomach to coffee may be related to the method of processing the grains. For example, ground coffee with caffeine increases the production of hydrochloric acid more strongly than a decaffeinated drink. And ground coffee with caffeine and freeze-dried instant coffee lead to increased gastrin production.

[frigid stirrup]

in my case, there is no acid reflux, just some mild stomach pain and heaviness, what does that mean?

[gleaming mango]

gastritis or ulcer i think

[frigid stirrup]

😮

IDkkkk iTs gOne now, now that i drank water after finishing the coffee, maybe coffee just drains the oxygen level of the blood??

proffesionals pls confirmm 🥲 👍

[gleaming mango]

your stomach is just not good with acidic liquids (like coffee). Try not to drink it on empty stomach

[frigid stirrup]

i drank it 2 hours after meal 🥲 🥲

is that fine?

[gleaming mango]

if it has problems with acids - it means it is damaged somehow. 2 hours is empty. Just be careful with your diet, if symptoms will be permanent - go to the doctor.

[proud sable]

Not one of those yet, but I have done lots of personal reading and research into medicine. What I will say is every “drug” has withdrawal symptoms. Symptoms that you feel when the “drugs” that have been consumed wear off/ are no longer active at significant levels within the bloodstream. With caffeine the most common withdrawal symptom is drowsiness and headaches, however one can be muscle aches. Withdrawal symptoms are highly personalised, as the stomach is a muscle there could be a possible connection. However I’m not sure and am not a medical professional, I’m just making general assumptions based off data.

[vast girder]

If this is something that keeps happening and is repetitive go to your doctor, you likely need treatment. The idea that GERD is caused simply by acid in the stomach is incorrect - your stomach is meant to hold acid. GERD happens when the intraluminal pressure of the stomach surpasses the closure of your lower esophageal sphincter. It might sound like symantics, but its important because some people just have genetically weaker LES and are more prone to GERD at a younger age, and i can go on and on as for the reasons. GERD is also worsened when you lay flat (because gravity) which may be why you get these sxs at night. Additionally, at certain periods while you sleep you make certain hormones (wont get into this now) that increase / decrease your stomach acid. It can cause you to have trouble breathing, snore, burp etc. If these are true stomach pains and depedning on your age, ethnicity, lifestyle, etc (all things i dont know) you could be having signs of an ulcer, which is something only a doctor can diagnose and treat you with....finally, the comment made about withdrawal is completely incorrect in the context of this situation, for multiple reasons...i would get into it but this comment is already too long.... please please please refrain from seeking medical advice here, alot of what u will get is flat out wrong....SOURCE: Im a doctor...lol

[proud sable]

@vast girder how’s med school?

Also if your an MD, what did you do for undergrad

[vast girder]

its an experience to say the least lol., a humbling one too, and i was a chemistry and molecular cell physiology double major with a psychology minor...it sounds more impressive than it is, a lot of the classes applied to multiple categories lol

[proud sable]

@vast girder would you do it again?

[vast girder]

hmmm...i probably would, but i def wouldnt do it in the same way

[proud sable]

Is being a pre-med difficult and is it as long as journey as some people say it is?

[vast girder]

difficulty is relative. Surround yourself with hard working people who eat "difficult" for breakfast and you will be amazed in what u can do. Surround urself with terrible company and your definition of difficult will be skewed towards easy. You have the power to choose who u associate with. I loved my college days, I partied, made friends etc. but i def didnt spend my entire focus during college on doing this frat thing and that party thing, my goal was to learn, everything else was secondary. Sometimes in college people go with the mindset to party first and learn second...if u do that, then ur gonna have a miserable time trying to get into med school...

and its a long long journey, but i like it...just whatever you do, if u want to practice in the USA...do NOOOOTTTT go to the Caribbean or out of the USA for med school, its better to take a gap year and try again for a us school than to do that

[proud sable]

Yeah I am probably going to try only for AUS medical schools. Slightly worried about embarking on the journey though because watching YouTube videos of AUS med students and doctors they say just how long the road is. Not sure how long it is in the US but in AUS it’s usually 3 undergrad + (a honours year) + 1-2 Years of applying/reapplying + 4/5 years of medicine school + 3-7 years of training. That’s if you can’t get a direct 6 year undergrad med school entry (requiring an ATAR of 99 / US GPA / SAT of roughly 3.9 / 1500). It seems so daunting.

[vast girder]

hey this might sounds corny and over used but the longest journey starts with the first step. "just keep swimming" is gonna be your motto. If you look at ANYTHING from a 20,000 ft view like that it seems daunting, but if u look at it as little steps and achievable goals it isnt as bad so long as you love what you are doing. In the US it is similar, it is 4 years of high school + 4 years of bachelors undergrad + (optional 1-2 years of research or masters degree if your scores arent good enough) + MCAT entrance exam + 4 years of medical school + 3 US Board exams for licensing + residency training which is anywhere form 3 to 12 years, but most specialties are 4 or 5

[proud sable]

Ahh so it sounds fairly similar. Not gonna lie that’s actually a really helpful way of looking at it, thanks man.

[vast girder]

Anytime, best of luck to u, if ur in this group, then u already are a step ahead of your peers in that you are at least trying to surround urself with like minded people with similar goals. u got this 👍

[proud sable]

Thankssss maaan

[pliant plinth]

any med student here ??

[fallen frigate]

Hi, do you need help with anything?

[fossil gull]

It's hard work, but I kind of enjoyed the journey. This is a trade that not many get to do.

[olive wind]

hi

[fallen frigate]

hello!

[proper zealot]

What does ‘ frustrated phagocytosis ‘ mean?

[frigid stirrup]

tyy everyone for the info and ty doc @vast girder for the information 😄

[kind stag]

Eating in frustation i do that a lot 😂😂jk

[proud sable]

Yeah I read that in the end it’s not all that competitive to get into medicine because people realise after being a premed for a few years that they don’t want to do it anymore. I saw somewhere one time there was a statistic that in AUS the mass majority (80-90%) of undergrad applicants to medicine stopped pursuing it after they got denied for an undergrad combined program. Also is it good to work jobs in a hospital while being a premed, even if it’s helping move stuff / any number of labouring jobs?

[frigid stirrup]

guys india has ran out ofoxygen cylinders and the second wave of coronavirus has hit our country, around 3,236,000 are dying in the last 24 hours, pls give donations for ooxygen cylinders, the conditions are very critical,,the patients are dying right in front of the helpless doctors, because of lack of oxygen.....im currently in a hospital, and i see people waiting in line to get a bed, as there are shortage of beds as well, pls help niebouring countries, and forighn countries, my uncle has got covid positive and only 1 oxygen cylinder is left for him which will last for only 1 hour pls help.....😭 😭 😭

[stark quest]

My uncle actually died last Saturday due to lack of oxygen and medicines

[fossil gull]

I would say if you get to network with the doctors and hospital staff there, then yes. If not then just save your time to study.

[lean sierra]

Hi! Is there a website or something with mnemonics / anki cards / notes available to print / study for step 2 (medical exam)?

[atomic owl]

this may be a pointless question but can someone explain to me the difference between exertional and functional dyspnea, please?

[proud sable]

Is there a doctor or a Medical student from Switzerland?

I've some questions

[tribal ravine]

Hello, does anybody have any idea on research conferences? I'm about to attend one tomorrow.

[tranquil axle]

I’m just curious, is there any med students from Germany here? 🙂

[proud sable]

@tranquil axle @proud sable There’s lots of doctors and med students on here from other countries. The (MBBS / MBChB / BMBS) / MD / DO courses across the world are almost identical in every country. Don’t need to specially ask for one country.

[tranquil axle]

The courses around the world are not that identical. I’ve compared between 3 countries before my application. The exams we have, and structures of the curriculum are quite different.
Also I’m studying med in Germany, I asked because I just wanted to know if there are others here, that I can talk to and ask about specific things 🙂

And because I was curious.

[lean sierra]

I'm a med student from Portugal, it's 6 years in total here

[proud sable]

exactly, I'm from Italy and the reason for which I asked this, is to know more information about the specialistic program

[proud sable]

Really I was pretty sure that almost everywhere was Med y1,2,3,4, with some degrees cramming into 3 years and some extending to 5/6

With y1,2,3,4 being broadly the same across all countries?

[sonic narwhal]

I am a pre med student in Philippines we have y1,2,3,4

after 4 years of pre med ofc

[proud sable]

Yeah I was pretty certain because I’ve looked at U.K., US, AUS and RUS med schools and all of them are broadly the same. So I’d be very surprised if IT and GE are doing it differently.

[tardy nimbus]

exertional dyspnea ocurrs due to physical effort in a kinda "lungs and airways cant catch up with the exercise rate" way. functional dyspnea ocurrs due to emotional distress such as high states of anxiety- so there s nothing really visceral about it, more like psychological. that s how i understand it

[atomic owl]

thank you so much!!

[scenic flume]

i m newbie in the medical field ...and i m highly fascinated by brain and and how its works ....can u pls tell me what courses i can take after my MBBS

[woeful mist]

Physician Assistant here! (United States)

Nice to meet you all.

• Brandon

[night sierra]

hey every one im second year medical student

[reef compass]

M a pre med student preparing for entrance exam

[coral venture]

me too 😭

[reef compass]

It's my 2nd attempt hope I make it

[coral venture]

you can do it 💪

[sudden wraith]

Any med student in the 1st year of mbbs??

Plz ping me guys

[rancid tapir]

any paramedics here lol?

[jade flame]

anatomy is killing me😩

[halcyon juniper]

helloo

i'm a med student from Chile, its my third year

[lime inlet]

same here man

[tacit thunder]

can anybody here help with pharmacology i am more inclined toward every mechanism than remebering fact from sketchy

[lament gyro]

I'm a MSc in Medicine student, writing a thesis on a paramedic subject

[swift fable]

yo

[prisma beacon]

If I wanted to start young on my medical journey, what subjects/courses should I look into for High School?

[cold meadow]

Hi guys, 3rd year Med school from Brazil here

[rancid tapir]

if you need any help add me and message me i would love to help.

[novel radish]

Any med student from Italy?

Am I the only one who studies with James?

[vagrant totem]

not one, its the worldwide challenge 🥸

[frigid stirrup]

Yall what is trophoblast?

[fathom vine]

It's outer layer of blastocyst

[frigid stirrup]

ohkk tyyy

[lethal horizon]

Es qu il y des étudiants en médecine dentaire là

Is there any dental medicine student here

Or any medical major

[proud sable]

hi, I'm Italian too

where are u from? what city?

[proud sable]

hello fellow medics 🙂

[spring dirge]

Hi medics! I'm a med biotech student and am having a module on clinical chem. My team have a task on explaining the results received from the panel tests on a diabetic patient as shown, however we're having issues explaining as to why the triglycerides level is normal (shouldn't it be increased or decreased? idk 😦 ) and also coming up with a backstory to explain her state of condition. Currently, we postulate that she's able to maintain her lifestyle and diet and just entered the symptomic stage of type 1 diabetes which has caused her to enter diabetic ketoacidosis, but we're also playing around with the idea of a possible infection to explain about her extreme hyperglycaemia. I would very much appreciate it if you could give me some input on how to solve this nutcase!! (DMs are welcome :D)

[formal copper]

is anyone here a physical therapist?

[cunning willow]

how many years 2 become surgeon?

[verbal fossil]

Is coffee good?

[thin cape]

hi! i'm starting my undergraduate studies next year and i was wondering whether do the internships in med school pay you? i'm rather interested in med school but my main concern is student loans 😬

i did ask a few of my friends; some say yes and others no? not entirely sure about it + it's not really stated in the uni prospectus

i was also considering biomedical sciences as a backup just because the course fees is a lot cheaper- i don't think one of them is easier than the other, but to be completely honest i'm not sure if i want to work with patients or not because of how much accountability i have ==

[tardy nimbus]

good as in delicious? depends of who you ask. healthy? nope

[verbal fossil]

Ok, btw I don't need it to wake whole night
I'm night owl 🦉

[edgy spoke]

Is the sun bigger than the earth?
unnhhh.... uh .. yeahh.... uh helll yeahhhh....

[verbal fossil]

Depend on frame of reference lol

[edgy spoke]

Shit... I didn't think it through. My bad XD

[verbal fossil]

Haha, good luck next time xD

[elfin orchid]

Hi there idk if yall rmb but I'm the same bitch who accidentally sliced her finger yesterday. I wanted to ask (I just took off bandage), is it bad to have have a tiny but totally visible blood clot under slightly healed cuts? Like it's there but under skin but like an black ish ant sized dot....is its bad?

[lime inlet]

That shouldn’t be bad, i think

[elfin orchid]

Icic tyyy

[novel radish]

From Brescia bro, you??

[serene vapor]

🖐️

[serene vapor]

Just don't abuse. Avoid drinking it for breakfast, the best moment is in the early afternoon to boost your productivity.

[proud sable]

Naples

[thorn moon]

bro

[kind fox]

Anyone preparing for step 1 for the next month? Looking for a study partner

[reef compass]

Step 1?

[kind fox]

United States medical licensing examination step 1

[serene vapor]

Hey

[thorn sorrel]

hey! i am lets partner up

[thorn sorrel]

depends, for most u have to pay

[thin cape]

hmmm ty! i'll keep that in mind

even if i plan to study med locally it's still pretty expensive zz

[kind fox]

Sounds good

[patent halo]

hey

can anyone tell me what purpose of stomata is?

I though photosynthesis occured in stomata but it takes place in mesophylls

[proud sable]

stomata helps in exchange of gases

basically allows the plant to take in carbon dioxide and give out oxygen for photosynthesis

[reef compass]

Exchange of gas and transpiration

[patent halo]

nah my real query is solved

that wasnt the real question

[graceful leaf]

do chemical signals travel though the membrane of a neuron and then through the synapse or is it all within the cell membrane?

[tardy nimbus]

chemicals signals travel the neuron membrane into the synaptic cleft and from there through the membrane of the cell that is supposed to recieve the signal

[graceful leaf]

@tardy nimbus and the synaptic cleft only connects synapses to dendrites?

[tardy nimbus]

umm, not necessarily. the synaptic cleft is literally a really small place between tha axon of the neuron and the body of the other cell(which can also be another neuron)

[graceful leaf]

Thanks!

[ancient bridge]

Hello i'm Gita, clinical student of dental medicine from Indonesia👋
Is anyone here studying or working in dentistry/dental medicine? 😀

[fervent dome]

Hey! I'm Krizia. I finished med school five years ago and work. I do science work in my free time. 👋

[fallen frigate]

Any tips on how to study for the physician board exam? 🥲

[floral hawk]

hi, anybody here?? can someone here explain for me the mechanism of breast cancer? having some problems for my essay

especially the effects of cholesterol and the LXR ligands

[dense cipher]

eyyy

[twilit summit]

@ancient bridge i'm dental student but i don't think i can help much since i'm just first year 😄

[ancient bridge]

Hii🥰 No problem at all!! we can always discuss and be friend😁 would like to have more friend in the same field

[proud sable]

hi

i'm a medical student in italy

[proud sable]

i'm only a second year student so i'll tell you what i do know:

[proud sable]

basically LXR ligands are molecules derived from cholesterol (some of them at least) like estrogens, androgens, eccetera. estrogen and progesterone are able to induce the proliferative pathway in breast cells, stimulating the EGF pathway leading to MAPK activation as an example

this could lead to the proliferation of the cells, and if we're in a situation in which reparative systems of DNA are altered then it could result in DNA damage due to errors during duplication of DNA during mytosis. Accumulating more and more damage could lead to breast cancer. We could say that some LXR ligands have a role in accelerating the cancer growth. i mentioned only the MAPK pathway but you must also consider that the eterodimers such as LXR-ER (estrogen receptor) and LXR-PR (progesterone receptor) lead also to cell proliferation in the breast tissue.

i know my english is not the best but i hope i helped anyway

[proud sable]

this was really cool @stark lichen thanks!

[latent trench]

helllo @proud sable
I'm a med student from switzerland and I plan on doing my 4th year in Italy (ERASMUS) in bologna, how is it there if you know?

[proud sable]

since yall study for medic

i have a question

so i do mma and stuff

do you guys know how i can heal very fast

[tardy nimbus]

idk if you can necessarily speed up your healing process
but you can try getting plenty of rest and protein and carbs to get your regain energy and help w healing
also analgesics to help w pain

[sullen quartz]

well in karate kid, they did the chinese fire cup technique thing. does that help? lol

[buoyant patio]

Any tip how to study anatomy and physiology in 20 days , I have exams coming up

[fervent flint]

uhm to study anatomy, videos can help a lot or apps where you can visualize the anatomical parts

and for physiology I think videos work too

[proud sable]

hello! Bologna is a beautiful city, and it is full of students! there's plenty of pubs, and places to eat. I guess there's also a lot to do in the nighttime! totally recommend!

i've been only a couple of days but i'm in love with the city

the only downside is that in italy you get to do very small practice as a medical student

[serene vapor]

For med students, what is your studying method? With your method, honestly, how much time do you need to study 10 pages (just to have a measure) and how long can you retain the information learned?

I use to study with Anki, creating cards from lectures (+ researches). I take from 1.5 to 2.5 hrs to study 10 pages (reading + creating cards + memorizing cards). I retain the information forever, as I keep repeating also after the exam.

I feel 1.5/2.5 hrs per 10 pages are too much, so I would like to know your methods to understand if I can do anything to improve the efficiency without sacrificing the quality too much. Thank you for everyone who shares his experience/suggestion

[quartz barn]

LOL, I speend like 4 hours for an iteam, ´cause i take notes and draw the things im reading,

[lone tree]

Heyy! I'm a dental student too

[onyx harbor]

Contrast therapy is very good
Apply ice bags to the effected area
(Wherever you feel sore)
for 5 mins
Then dip in hot water for 4 mins
Then cold for for 4
Hot for 3
And so on

And an ice bath once a month really helps

Also
Try training bare feet and bare chested
Spartan style lol
Jokes apart
Your proprio reception develops
And immunity develops too,
Especially if the weather is a lil extreme
Like raining, or a bit hot

Don't take it tok hard
And don't do something too dangerous
Stay within your limits
Hope this helps!

[latent trench]

Thank you very much bro 🙂 can't wait to go there !!!!
hhh don't worry about it, same in Switzerland we have so little practice :/

[proud sable]

do you speak italian also?

[restive dagger]

Hi, i was reading a paper and i found this term: "cotargeting" does someone know what does it mean? (i´m not a native english speaker)

[latent trench]

I don't (unfortunately) 😦 I'm from the French speaking part of switzerland but I plan on going your language the year before leaving

I'm not from Ticino 😉

[floral hawk]

thank you mate, this could help a lot

[ancient bridge]

Hi! Lets be friend🥰

[proud sable]

i'll answer you using an example: "the drug is cotargeting receptor A and B and C ecc.". it means that it can act on both B and A and C. if you think about A as the "target" (adress) of the drug, it is saying that it (the drug for example or whatever is the subject in your paper) also acts on another target which is B or B and C ecc.

[proud sable]

very happy to help

[restive dagger]

I think I got it, thank you!

[pure urchin]

i appericate this, thanks a lot

[fair dragon]

anyone here has read atomic habits????

[proud sable]

i had

[solemn drum]

What is that?

Looks intresting

About cell?

Anyone here has read clinical chemistry?

Or harison's?

[onyx harbor]

It is a self help book and it talks about habits , developing habits etc ...

[craggy narwhal]

Hey which country is best for MBBS?

[solemn drum]

I need that book where can i read it

I really need that book

Im trying to get many things as a habit

[onyx harbor]

It's there on Amazon
You can get it from there

Idk about online free pdf's may not be safe

[solemn drum]

Ok thanks
I was searching for that book for a long time actually

[rugged agate]

i just brutally stabbed

do as you will medics

do as you will

there can only be one

[proud sable]

For MBBS the highest quality education in the world is probably (English) The United Kingdom (German) Switzerland / Germany / Austria after than only countries teach their language in their country.

For MD United States / Australia

[still helm]

I’ll be taking human anatomy for the first time soon and I’m pretty nervous lol. Does anyone have study tips/resources? I’d greatly appreciate it :))

[grand wadi]

I'm 5th year med student which means I'm almost done!:) First of all, dont be nervous. I was too but looking now it was pretty unnecessary. The names are long but once you understand the words's meanings you start to recognize them easier. Also I bought Sobotta it's good. Definitely go prepared to that day's practice subject you will learn and remember them x200 easier. I watched YouTube videos sometimes, downloaded some anatomy apps they are pretty good. I must say the secret is repeat them as possible as you can. At first you may dont understand cause everything gonna be new but with time you will be a pro in it.

[timber iris]

Would you recommend it?

[onyx harbor]

I've just ordered the book myself
I'll let ya know after I finish reading it!
But really,
Opinions always differ and even if I end up finding it as good as I expected it to be
You might like it better than I did
So ig you should read it too :)

[serene vapor]

"I must say the secret is repeat them as possible as you can." This can work, but it's completely inefficient. Read something about spaced repetition. When you learn something you just need to repeat it twice, then you will repeat it again after 2-4 days, then again after 4-7 days and so on - no reason to repeat everything everyday. Moreover, avoid learning things without first understanding them.

[solemn drum]

Surgeon tearm at college take 7-8 years right?

[grand wadi]

Average 5years without med school.

[grand wadi]

No of course that isn't what I meant. Of course firstly you should understand it but if you dont repeat it. it's so easy to forget. Generally most of the things in med school like that. With repeat everything get easier and permanent :)

[solemn drum]

Ok nice

[serene vapor]

Sure. I'm only at 1st year so you probably know even better than me. I was just suggesting to learn what "spaced repetition" is because it's not something you get taught at school - but is basically how our memory works and can improve your efficiency so much.

Good night guys

[grand wadi]

I think it's brilliant and effective for especially med school. So thank you for your suggesting:)

[fluid trail]

Hello, not sure if it’s the right chat but are there any dental students here?

[twilit summit]

I am

[fluid trail]

oh thats cool, where are u from and which year?

[twilit summit]

Brunei, first year

[fluid trail]

nice to meet u, i'm 6th year (last year in my dental school) feel free to ask me for anything 👍

[twilit summit]

ohh nice!!! 🤩

[twin herald]

from which country

[fallen badge]

Hey can anyone help me with gizmo stem case for cellular respiration??

Please let me know, thank you!

[fluid trail]

saudi arabia

[stable compass]

i need some help

how do u do punnett's square for polygenic traits?

[solemn drum]

نروح علي المحادثة الغير أنجليزية؟

[lament gyro]

hmm so you want the chance of a polygenetic disease?

mathematically you can sum up chances

[stable compass]

not disease

[lament gyro]

so for each gene a square

[stable compass]

wait

lemme show u

[lament gyro]

oh traits like, having a big nose?

[stable compass]

for example

the shape of ur nose and the color of ur hair

simultaneously

[lament gyro]

you can make a square as big as u want

[stable compass]

i took every possible combination for each person

and then combined the two

[lament gyro]

so the chance that u have brown hair and a big nose

[stable compass]

yeahsmth like that

[lament gyro]

well it also depens on wheter there is a unique polygenic combination or na

[stable compass]

theyre on different chromosomes

[lament gyro]

make the full square

[stable compass]

Thats the full square there are no other possible combinations for AAbb

only Ab

except if im doing the whole square wrong

[lament gyro]

thats not a square

square is same lenght as width in number of subsquares in this case

[stable compass]

yeah

[lament gyro]

being 16subsquares for 2genes with 2options

zo the unique combination of these genes (2ops) is 1/16

[stable compass]

can u make one for AaBb x AABb

for example

?

[lament gyro]

ok

u mean when a parent AaBb crosses with a AABb?

[stable compass]

yes

A is for a trait and B is for another

[lament gyro]

since the 2nd parent has no a these combinations go away

[stable compass]

well all the progenies will be AA or Aa

damn i cant explain it in english xD

just show me the square and ill understand xD

[lament gyro]

this stuff is 6y back haha

u have 8 options

[stable compass]

yeah thats what i did too lol i just didnt do the wholse square

[lament gyro]

yea u simplified

[stable compass]

okay thank u

[lament gyro]

but here u can check of the left 8

which come double

[stable compass]

i just wanted clarificartion and make sure i did it correct

[lament gyro]

can u get the chances out if this square?

[stable compass]

yeah

[lament gyro]

for example give me the chance of aaBb

[stable compass]

give me a min

genotypically?

or phenotypically?

[lament gyro]

of these parents their fillii

the square

[stable compass]

aaBb is 0%

[lament gyro]

yes

Aabb

[lament gyro]

here you gave the possible combinations, not the chances

[stable compass]

cant u get the chances out of the possible combinations ?

[lament gyro]

just count the squares

8 possibilities

how many doubles?

[stable compass]

each is gonna be 25% on that one

nonce

none

[lament gyro]

Oof

look again

pure genes not how its written down

[stable compass]

well there are 4 possible combinations right?

[lament gyro]

yes

[stable compass]

and none are the same

[lament gyro]

but chances are different b/c some combinations can happen in two ways (doubles in our square)

AAbB and AABb are genetically the same

[stable compass]

yes

phenotypically

[lament gyro]

so thats 2/8 sqaures

[stable compass]

they have the same result

[lament gyro]

yes

thats why you use teh square to get the chances

u have 6 outcomes

so your initial "square" was also wrong

[stable compass]

yes so 25% for AABb, 25% for AAbb, 25% for AaBb and 25% for Aabb

[lament gyro]

nope

[stable compass]

also is there a reason that u even write aB and ab since a doesnt exist in P2?

?

wait where are u from ?/

[lament gyro]

full square

was to show u

[stable compass]

okay yeah

[lament gyro]

these 8 options were vanished bc one of the parentes didn't have the gene

[stable compass]

agreed

[lament gyro]

this should be the full excercise

[stable compass]

okay i get it now

where are u from mate?

[lament gyro]

EU

You?

[stable compass]

greece

[lament gyro]

Noice thats almost EU hahaha

jk, no political intents

What do you study?

[stable compass]

u wrote b as in greek so i thought u were greek lol

nothing im still at school

[lament gyro]

oh no i aint greek haha

[stable compass]

yeah, i get ut

what do u study?

[lament gyro]

in european countries we have handwriting uhm how do you call it

cursive handwriting?

Where are you from?

Im 4th y medical

[stable compass]

oh alright i wanna be at med college too

[lament gyro]

noice, it's an amazing field of study

[stable compass]

no doubt yeah

[lament gyro]

human body in all it's details, like being an engineer of the corpus

[stable compass]

dayumn

[lament gyro]

you don't wanna give away where you from hehe? and what do you study in middle/high school?

[stable compass]

ooooog

i said im from greece

[lament gyro]

ow so you are

[stable compass]

why did u ask me again lol

[lament gyro]

misunderstood that part haha

[stable compass]

youre the one whos not giving away where he is from lol

[lament gyro]

Belgian

[stable compass]

we study mendel, mitosis, viruses, dna replication

and other stuff

for the exams that get u into colleg

[lament gyro]

you but like your class, u choose a certain curriculum

Like mathematics sciences

Latin

Latin greek

[stable compass]

wdym

yeah we choose a certain "way" in the 2nd and 3rd year

certain lessons

[lament gyro]

Like in belgium when you get 12 you go to "middle school" until you are 18, you choose between economics mathematics/modern languages or sciences/mathematics or latin

[stable compass]

and at what age do u get into colleg

[lament gyro]

when you get your middle school degree so when you are about 17-19

[stable compass]

ooohhh

yeah i get it

[lament gyro]

only for medical school you need to pass a certain exam

all other colleges and studies you can just subscribe and start, not even that expensive

[stable compass]

something similar here as well but in order to get into college u write exams

on the field u chose

and college is free...

i like ur "EU" And the chances it offers

[lament gyro]

yea it is

[stable compass]

is it?

oh

[lament gyro]

most type of freedom, but like freedom for ALL layers of the hierarch classes

EU is the best part of the world if you parents cant give u chances bc of ilness or being broke or whatever, you can still make it

[stable compass]

that is true yeah

[lament gyro]

nuancing that make it doesnt mean to earn a lot of money, cuz i dont like that idea of "making it"

but it is possible

USA has a lot of freedom but that just makes it easier for the rich cause they can abuse that freedom to get it their way

EU keeps people between certain lines, which seem to be necesarry

[stable compass]

that happens everywhere lol, but especially in the us

[lament gyro]

US is just lucky they owe like 70% (just giving a number) of the worlds economic wealth

like even when you low class in US you are globally top 10

10%, if you know what I mean

[stable compass]

yeah but they have good wconomy so ?

japan has a huge debt but they dont struggle

[lament gyro]

But if global power shifts and US loses economical power/Wealth, a lot of people will get broke bc of disbalance between classes there

the biggest reason the west is doing good is bc they get the wealth from elsewhere hehe

Russian and China trying to shift that

we cant take it for granted

[stable compass]

its about having a good economic plan

[lament gyro]

no doom thinking or anything hehe

Ye bu our economic plans are base of important from low wealth countries

[stable compass]

i wouldnt want to live in china persoanlly

[lament gyro]

if that stops we get major crisisses

me neither

[stable compass]

granted the circumstances

whatever i dont wanna get banned xD

[lament gyro]

but people dont realize that could shift

them being the global rich population and we'll become their low wealth import

thats what the russian and chinese threat is

[stable compass]

calm down u;ll get banned lol

[lament gyro]

they want to undermine our economics/politics so they can get these advantages we got after the WW2 and cold war

no no no opinions just thinking about global power balances

im pro EU and freedom of speech

its just vulnerable, especially when people arent aware of it

[stable compass]

yes but this server has rules

[lament gyro]

true

I let myself escape hahah

6. No political/controversial topics including false information about the covid-19 pandemic, vaccines and other topics. This server is a safe space for anyone no matter their age, sexual orientation, skin colour, culture, etc. This means racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. is NOT allowed under any circumstances.

I apologize

[stable compass]

no problem just dont get carried away that the EU is the hero.

[lament gyro]

no not the hero haha

[stable compass]

we gonna die some day dont think about it too much XD

[lament gyro]

Just one of the best in the impossible pursue to get a good way of governing :p

well yea thats why life is worth a loy

[stable compass]

yes with central power

[lament gyro]

just, we take a lot for granted

[stable compass]

true yeah ]

[lament gyro]

we only look to our close neighbours or only those with a lot of wealth, but globally

its just hypocretic haha idk, so being grateful

[stable compass]

well its logical, money makes the world go round xD

But yeah we should appreciate what we have especially those who actually have something

[lament gyro]

yea that's a shame

most are driven by money/wealth especially those in power bc those two are related

and being driven by something often comes with losing certain values

moral values

[stable compass]

yeah i know if we were all ethical and moral there wouldnt be any problems

[lament gyro]

but we just the players haha, hate the game not the players

but it like to play in a better game :p

i'd*

Of you want to become a Medical Doctor, these values of moral and ethical are worth a lot

[stable compass]

everyone would man

i know

are u taking the oath?

[lament gyro]

Hipocrates?

[stable compass]

yy

[lament gyro]

The greek

[stable compass]

yes are u taking the oath ?

[lament gyro]

hehe you live in the home country of medicine

within 2years

[stable compass]

home country of many things lol

[lament gyro]

Medical school is 6 in belgium

[stable compass]

together with the specialty??

[lament gyro]

true but there is an example of shift of global wealth/power

[stable compass]

oof

[lament gyro]

Greek culture was one of the biggest in history and know yea its good but yea haha

[stable compass]

yeah nobody appreciates and looks at the past

[lament gyro]

no no specialty raises from min 3y-6y

[stable compass]

yeah whatev

yeah same here

[lament gyro]

and additionaly specialties to those 6y like ceratin types of subspecialisation in surgery

[stable compass]

i'd like to be a coroner if i manage to get to med college

cool

[lament gyro]

like forensics?

[stable compass]

yy

dead ppls

[lament gyro]

noice, quite uncommon tho

[stable compass]

ppl

yeah i kno0w

[lament gyro]

I very much liked the dissections we had

[stable compass]

im just the kind of person that would do it

hahahaah

me too

[lament gyro]

but like on real dead pps

fascinating the human body

but like coroner is a real challenge, you need to know all the basics of the human body and than act like a detective to find the default

I need to get back to studying haha, have a greaat day

[stable compass]

same man glad to chat with u

[olive wasp]

does someone know anything about the humoral immune response?

anyone*

[tardy nimbus]

it s basically when your lymfocyte B cells that get in contact with bacteria viruses (antigenes really) that float in your plasma. The B cells will bind through receptors to the pathogen and synthesise antibodies

[olive wasp]

ahhh ok thank you so muchh

[lament gyro]

Humoral immunity

Th-cells are also quite import to keep in mind

but yea humoral immunity is actually your B-cells secreting antibodies which can neutralize, opsonizate and complement activation pathogens

this activates when antigens (parts of the pathogen, bacteria) are presented in the extracellular fluid

They bind to your B-cells so do the Th-cells, so this B-cell now know hmm this specific antigen comes from a specific pathogen, if i want to find it so we can killed i should make some markers liek antibodies

it then secretes these antibodies who'll bind to the pathogen linked to the presented antigen

this B-cell now is called a plasma-cel cause it secretes specific antibodies

This is a part of the adaptive immunesystem

Humoral immunesystem refers actually to the antibodies itself in the extracellularfluid chasing these pathogens

Oh yea these antibodies are also known as the immunoglobins like IgA, IgG, IgE, IgM

[lament gyro]

these Y shaped proteins

dang, super interesting haha it is worth some extra information I'm sorry

This is actually interesting in modern medicine and its evolution in immunotherapy, where we use the immunesystem to cure/palliate diseases

Biological therapy - Monoclonal antibodies creation

So these antibodies are produced in the laboratory and used as medication for example against certain types of cancer, medication names ending with -mab (monoclonal anti body)

@olive wasp if you have questions I am happy to answer

[fluid trail]

yea sure

[proud sable]

Hello everyone 🙂 i have an anatomy exam in just a little over two months, where I’m supposed to know all the anatomy except neuroanatomy and honestly I feel a bit lost and overwhelmed while studying because there’s just so much I have to know. Do you guys have any tips on how to study anatomy?

It’s an oral exam too, they give us a few topics and we have to talk about them and they can ask direct questions too

[trail aspen]

use the book netter flashcards hope it helps

[proud sable]

thank you!

[pure urchin]

Keep in mind anatomy is a subject of images, you need to learn as much image as you can. By this way (learn through images), you can cover several sections at a time

I'll show you an example

this image is contained a lot of information, you can remember the oral, larynx, spinal cord,... in one image

so the more image you remember, the better you understand anatomy

[lament gyro]

Indeed key thing of anatomy is visualization. But you gotta simply know the names. Knowing some latin details can help you get far bc mostly it is a direct translation or logical word. Repeat, repeat, repeat, just get your brain to know "the surroundings" like when you go in your house, room, you can name aaallll the items, same thing, same kind of memory. Look to the human body as if you are walking trough your house and you give people a tour and name everything.

Study in terms of flashcards/quizes, easy fun kinda way with little mental exhausted

in your further clinical study years you will be so used to the anatomy bc it repeats itself and it feels like basically walking in your house

so just calm down and get to it, you will feel comfortably with it, within a short period of time

search playstore and internet for anatomy quizes 😉

@proud sable

[gritty drift]

the mouse’s splenocytes going oop

lol the reaction is cute

[gritty drift]

For anatomy I usually draw everything while studying, eventually making some notes on a big paper and putting them in my wall or something

I also watch a lot of youtube channels that explain everything clearly unlike my teachers haha

[lament gyro]

there should be someone who starts a university globally, just out of youtube channels isntead of teachers/professors

[gritty drift]

I swear YES

[gritty drift]

some of my drawings
the realistic version of them are usually rarely happening because I waste time doing them so I end up with small sketches that take up 5 minutes to do lol

[lament gyro]

that is actually outstanding

cant even find the words, big props

Can imagine it takes a lot of time to create this art

if you can draw it this precisely it will for sure be visualized in your brain

[gritty drift]

and bones

[lament gyro]

you know you have an excellent skill

if you find the right people who are creating atlases etc you can help them with your drawings, you could earn good money on this

[gritty drift]

thank you ^^
yeah, drawing them (even not in detail) helps to not forget them

[lament gyro]

like for example new surgical approaches but visualized with good drawings etc

[gritty drift]

I’m actually thinking about it

[gritty drift]

indeed.
plus that I want to become a surgeon myself.

[lament gyro]

get in contact with your university or affiliate hospital an the surgeons/researchers

its a good bonus for your portfolio

chances are high with such great skill (hand motoric) of drawing and the insight of your anatomia

really flabergasted wow

U did artschool?

[gritty drift]

I will actually do it after this year, since it my last pre-clinical year and everything becomes less theoretical and more practical (not that we are not already doing hospital shifts but they are too little)

[gritty drift]

nope, never ever even took one art lesson or something

[lament gyro]

dang u are gifted

[thorn moon]

wow these are insane, also like the chocolates in the back... to keep up that glicemia of course

[lament gyro]

use it

[gritty drift]

I was a math and computer programming major in high-school 🤷🏻‍♀️

[gritty drift]

thank you, you are very nice ^^

[gritty drift]

thank you and yeah haha I always have a source of glucose next to me

[lament gyro]

i didnt know that was possible computer programming? or you mean high school like college 18+?

[gritty drift]

oh, I also do such “A3 notes” for other subjects such as immunology.
I also love using anki for others
drawing is really helpful when studying

[lament gyro]

You from spain/portugal?

[lament gyro]

i love immunology visualized in drawings

I can draw a little when i really focus on the picture and copy

[regal patrol]

From where did u get the C1?

[gritty drift]

I’m from Romania.
Even if we do like 18 different subjects in high-school, we can chose a majore (so we do extra classes for those)

[regal patrol]

In the third pic

[gritty drift]

university. here all students can get real bones from the university or from other students. I had a full skeleton as well

[gritty drift]

that’s very pretty

[regal patrol]

Damn........

[lament gyro]

I like anatomical artwork

It a sketch but never finished it haha

[gritty drift]

I usually draw portraits and eventually sell them

[lament gyro]

Want to have it finished when I graduate lol

Too bad I fkd up the canvas haha

but id like to buy an artwork of you someday

[regal patrol]

Cool

[gritty drift]

sure, I’d love to give you one

[regal patrol]

I need one of these

BTW im just a first year

[lament gyro]

Yes we also used real human bones and cadres, think almost al universities to that nowadays

[regal patrol]

Yeah but sadly i didn't get the chance to go to uni because of covid

[gritty drift]

yeap. it’s good that they give them to you so you can study them at home as well

[lament gyro]

I have a lot of typos bc of lack of brain power bc of studying too much lately haha

[gritty drift]

I went to uni all the time even in the pandemics

[regal patrol]

Which year ?

[gritty drift]

that’s unhealthy but still very good somehow 🤨

[lament gyro]

thats really bad :/

[gritty drift]

2nd

[regal patrol]

Yeah the 2nd year do go to uni
But we don't by we i mean first year students

[lament gyro]

we had online courses and practical lessons on campus or in the hospital

[gritty drift]

that’s sad

[regal patrol]

Yup

[lament gyro]

4th year here

[gritty drift]

same about the courses

[gritty drift]

yuhuu you are soon to be done

[lament gyro]

within 3days major exam of gastrology and endocrinology

within half a year senior stages hehe

[gritty drift]

it’s the last year in your case or still have 2 more?

[regal patrol]

How was Genetics?

[gritty drift]

lovely

[regal patrol]

.......really....

?

[lament gyro]

its 6yrs for the degree of Medical Doctor, Master of Science in Medicine

[thorn moon]

same, know nothing tho

[gritty drift]

same here

[lament gyro]

yea you learn the most from practical use in the hospital

[gritty drift]

but in US there’s 4 + the pre-med years

[gritty drift]

exactly

[gritty drift]

yeah, really

[lament gyro]

but its shifting to become more practical during academical years

Im starting to feel more like developing a clinical mind

[regal patrol]

U are the first human that says that to me
.....how

I didn't take it yet btw

The upper students....said it was a nightmare

[gritty drift]

I really like subjects that are complicated so I don’t get bored.
Plus it’s extremely interesting how some unmatching alleles or some random accidents in the cellular cycle can change everything about your body’s anatomy and physiology
The family trees were also fun

[lament gyro]

you need to find the why and that way you'll find it more pleasant to get to know this information, even a hard subject becomes tolerable that way

[regal patrol]

Noted

[gritty drift]

Just like immunology
A hell of a subject but I absolutely adore it

[regal patrol]

I will take it in the third semester (i mean immunology)

[lament gyro]

Immunology is crazy haha, but it has key role in future medicine so every medical doctor should know it fairly well

[regal patrol]

........

[thorn moon]

inmunology=inflammation 😆

[regal patrol]

Ahahhaha

[lament gyro]

hmm, I'll drop some steroids and i'll stop haha

[gritty drift]

here some wall notes by moi

[regal patrol]

And I'm here struggling with anatomy

[lament gyro]

you must put a lot of effort and time in your studies wow

[gritty drift]

my roommate as well, (she’s actually sleeping now)
I am studying anatomy now as well

[gritty drift]

I do, but I truly enjoy it

[regal patrol]

Good luck to u and ur sleepy roommate

[regal patrol]

She is on another level

[lament gyro]

and she enjoys it, thats lovely

great prospect for medicine

[regal patrol]

She reminds of someone

[gritty drift]

here, another school
I wasn’t even in medical school in this picture wow

[regal patrol]

To be or not to be that the question

[lament gyro]

Im too interest in everything to just being a medical student hehe

[gritty drift]

thank you 🥺

[gritty drift]

I love this

[thorn moon]

you made me pull out my old notes, I used to put a lot of effort ant time into them but nowadays I just make them digitally and not so colorful...

[gritty drift]

sooooo pretty

[lament gyro]

wow you people make me feel incompetent hahaha

[regal patrol]

1+

[gritty drift]

My old notes for cellular biology look similar

[lament gyro]

you should sit together and design the future theory books

[gritty drift]

notes don’t make someone more or less competent. I already know you’ll be an amazing doctor

[lament gyro]

*flatterd :x

ok quick guess, do you know the prevalence of diabetes worldwide?

[regal patrol]

Hmmmmm.....not sure

I can ask uncle google ig

Type 1 or type 2 BTW?

[lament gyro]

no just estimate

[regal patrol]

Hmm.....

[lament gyro]

both types just diabetes