game-discussion-1

[unique rain]

and how much is it going to cost tho

[hollow moon]

found a ryzen 5 5600 and that's gonna be my next upgrade

[fallow cobalt]

Don’t know but I’m estimating around 550-650 usd for top spec

[hollow moon]

amd cpu with amd gpu gonna work better together right?

[unique rain]

lmao what

[fallow cobalt]

Nova lake doesn’t have a confirmed price + its coming out late this year (like q4 2026)

[unique rain]

intel talking out of their ass with this one 🔥🔥

[fallow cobalt]

It’s been confirmed to exist and confirmed to include bLLC

Been confirmed since like oct 2025

[unique rain]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[hollow moon]

my prediction is that the new intel cpu gonna have a problem but that's about all.

[fallow cobalt]

Well its gonna be first gen bLLC and they’ve made it into desktop server CPUs but they have the problem of such big compute tiles they can’t get all the data across (so l3 cache perf gets loss due to the size)

[unique rain]

im waiting for zen 6 if the bubble dont pop before it's out

[hollow moon]

knew it, if is at good price then hell yeah is worth it, but that's why i buy a ryzen 5 5600 is so cheap then intel fuck intel with the drug ass prices

[fallow cobalt]

Well it’s only gonna be a ddr5 platform. Only good worth it platform if your on ddr4 in my opinion is lga 1700

[unique rain]

so is am5..

[fallow cobalt]

It’s actually a decent bit better than Vermeer (aka most ryzen 5000) if you need a budget

[hollow moon]

but the prices for motherboard and cpu from intel IS ASS, JUST ASS, NOT GONNA PAY 200$ FOR A CPU THAT'S THE SAME PERFORMANCE OF A RYZEN 5 5500 AND THAT IS A 90$ CPU NOT JOKING

[fallow cobalt]

dude

A i3 12100f beats a ryzen 7 5700. My i7 12700k with completely fucked memory config is 40-50% better in gaming than that 5700 with an intense ram tune + pbo

[hollow moon]

where do you know this?

[fallow cobalt]

From my own testing. I’ve used am4 before and I do own a 12700k and a ryzen 7 5700. Cheezane ISNT good for gaming. A ryzen 5 5500 is noticeably worse than a 5600 and the 5700 performs close to the same as a ryzen 5 3600

[cloud hinge]

Mines a i7 6700 with rtx 3050

[fallow cobalt]

Fire (please upgrade)

[unique rain]

"the 5700 performs close to a 3600"
?

[hollow moon]

guess what's the intel and what's the amd

[fallow cobalt]

In gaming yes. It’s an SOC like cpu. It uses the same silicon as mobile ryzen 5000 which means it has cut down l3 cache and more. Basically it’s monolithic compared to chiplet which hurts performance badly

[unique rain]

I'm so fucking confused

[fallow cobalt]

Geekbench isn’t a gaming test?

[hollow moon]

geek is the most trust worth it

[fallow cobalt]

Basically cheezane is monolithic which hurts performance (it’s just 1 singular die) and Vermeer is chiplet which is multiple dies

[unique rain]

2 dies is better than 1 because it shifts the load off of 1 and onto 2 of them
the new amd cpus also have 2 dies too so its nothing special

[fallow cobalt]

If you compare the spec of a r7 5700 to a 5700x you can see the difference in action by looking at the spec sheet of those. You lose like 20mb of l3 cache generally

[fallow cobalt]

It has a CCD die and an IOD die. Some are 2x CCD 1x IOD.

That’s how it’s been with amd since I think ryzen 2000 or 3000

A CCD die is the core die basically usually including 8 cores per CCD

[hollow moon]

is not like a r7 5700 but is close to a ryzen 5 5600 and 5500, if the price is good then intel is good but in my country intel is just overpriced

at gaming not benchmark or something this is just gaming

[fast inlet]

Is there much of a difference between the 7500f and 7700x?

[fallow cobalt]

Out here Intel is pretty competitive. I am just sticking with my pc till nova lake though. It sees more worth it in my opinion based off of what I’ve seen. If it’s crap I’ll probably move to am5

[fallow cobalt]

Those no besides for lower clocks and 2 less cores

[fast inlet]

For beamng?

[fallow cobalt]

Probably a 5% perf loss

[fast inlet]

How about for traffic

[fallow cobalt]

Maybe around 10%

[hollow moon]

i think you are right, the i3 is pretty good at the price and offering ryzen 5 5600 performance, but gonna perform good on 15 people in beamMP tho?

[fast inlet]

How good would each be with 12 traffic cars?

[fallow cobalt]

When I used mine yeah it was pretty good. Seems like BeamNG likes around more cache generally so take it as you will

[hollow moon]

but the 4 cores, is like little for beamMP

[random edge]

my i3 (10100f) starts to struggle after 5-6 cars in singleplayer

[hollow moon]

12mb only for cache? i think was way much, the 5600 is giving 35mb

[fast inlet]

My Ryzen 5 2600x starts to struggle after 7 cars

[hollow moon]

mine at 9 traffic cars

[fast inlet]

But I’m upgrading to probably a 7700x

[random edge]

by struggle i mean starting to drop below 40-60 fps

[fast inlet]

Same

[sharp stirrup]

whats fps

[random edge]

first person shooter

[viscid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947914623221366795/1317087206091001886/25353.gif

FPS ❌ FPU ✅

[random edge]

that should be the new performance metric, Upvote if you agree ✅

[fallow cobalt]

Not so much in my experience

Traffic in beam hurts the most

[fallow cobalt]

My 12700k starts to struggle at around 16-25

[hollow moon]

4 cores is just too low for beamMP and that's why i want a new cpu so i think gonna go on amd

[fallow cobalt]

Btw 8p+4e

[hollow moon]

that's a i7?

[fallow cobalt]

Yeah. I7 12700k is 8p4e 20t

With 24mb of cache I think? I don’t remember

[hollow moon]

okay you i7 is running good but the i3 gonna not run it like the i7 is basic knowledge

[fallow cobalt]

I could run my 12700k at 8p8t if you want as a semi fair comparison to see when it starts to give out

Or 4c8t if you want (I’ll even downclock it)

[hollow moon]

still too much, 8 cores is way better then 4cores in my experience on this ass i3 9100 i have

[fallow cobalt]

I3 9100 is 4/4 lol

[hollow moon]

if you want sure

[fallow cobalt]

4 cores 4 threads. Ain’t gonna be the best

[fallow cobalt]

Alr I’ll do it. I don’t mind doing it my cursed ddr5 4200 ram config is what’s gonna probably be the bottleneck

[random edge]

i7 has double cache of i3, and like 0.7-0.6 more ghz, can't really compare

[hollow moon]

i run 2133mhz lol

[fallow cobalt]

Drop the clocks to 4ghz and drop ring to 3ghz

Drops the l3 cache clock down a good bit

Since ring is tied to l3. If ur cache is slower but more performance will be the same usually

[random edge]

i wonder what power consumption it would have with those settings

[hollow moon]

you need to lower to 12mb that's what the i3 12100 have

[fallow cobalt]

Around 40-50w with my chip. I can do 8p4e at 120w avx2 load

Give it a good undervolt and I’m fine (I have a really good 12700k compared to most)

[fallow cobalt]

I can’t due to die differences but I can lower the ring clocks to make it noticeably slower

Stock is 3.6ghz with e cores and 4.6ghz with them disabled.

[fallow cobalt]

I also have a 7820hk laptop I can use to compareish

Another 4c 8t laptop with I think 8mb l3 cache

[oblique reef]

is it real LINUS OMG

[fallow cobalt]

Intel account not even in Intel official discord

[random edge]

is that real intel? can you please give me 4 more cores please

[fallow cobalt]

Lmao I’d take 4 more cores on my 12700k

[oblique reef]

*I CANT I REFUSE

[fallow cobalt]

It’s free cores (it’ll turn it into a 12900k in a way)

[hollow moon]

anything just to be close to the i3 12100f and test it with 15 people in beamMP ultra graphics that's what i want to play

because uhh yeah that's why i want a upgrade

90% cpu usage, 4% gpu...

[random edge]

also check that your vram isnt bottlenecking your gpu, but in your case its probably not the vram....

[fallow cobalt]

I’m using a 9060 xt 16g in 4k which doesn’t help fps but I can do it in 1080p also I’ll use AI instead of others WITH simple ai disabled

[oblique reef]

i need one ddr4 sodim module of 32gb ram

[hollow moon]

okay

[fallow cobalt]

I don’t got one sorry

[oblique reef]

any new vids?

[random edge]

new vid dropped

[hollow moon]

if this is real, is dogshit, is like my i3 9100

this is way better on amd

[fallow cobalt]

Well ur also going from 4c4t Intel 14nm+++++ to a 6c12t clocking way higher with better single core than that

[hollow moon]

thats the i3 12100 you recommend not my i3 9100

[light comet]

i think i can run beanng with my trashcan with wires

[hollow moon]

what specs?

[random edge]

🫘 NG

[light comet]

rx 570 and i5 9000

[hollow moon]

yeah 100% you can on ultra graphics

[light comet]

oh also 32gb ram

[fallow cobalt]

Ah I’m doing 2.5ghz ring 4c8t 4.5ghz cores as a test

[light comet]

for real?

[fallow cobalt]

Actual 12100 runs at 4.3ghz cores and 4.1ghz ring

[hollow moon]

yeah this is on a rx 580 4gb and i3 9100

[light comet]

oh that great

[hollow moon]

with 9 traffic cars

[hollow moon]

i dont think you can do better then this video

same price cpu btw

[fallow cobalt]

As a test run. Also use Vulkan not dx11

[hollow moon]

okay

[random edge]

4gb vram might cause issues with vulkan

[hollow moon]

i know lol mine dosent even open sadly

[light comet]

i gonna buy that game if i got money, or beg my friends to gift it to me

[fallow cobalt]

Dx11 is way worse optimized especially with core configuration stuff

More stable yes worse performance yes. Generally though it’s stable in everything besides for some maps

[random edge]

dx11 handles drawcals on singlecore, and beamng by default has around 5k-8k, and each car adds more

[fallow cobalt]

Vulkan can spread it out generally

[hollow moon]

sadly i dont run vulkan i cant

[fallow cobalt]

Rx 580 supports Vulkan

[hollow moon]

4gb vram🥀

[light comet]

i got 8gb

what is vulkan is

[fallow cobalt]

Vulkan is a different game engine

Or renderer. It’s way more optimized than dx11 and performs similar to dx12

[light comet]

cool

[random edge]

rendering api

[fallow cobalt]

Getting 80 fps with 4c8t Vulkan with 13 cars 6 pooled and 10 parked

[hollow moon]

graphics settings?

[fallow cobalt]

Custom mix of medium/high. cpu limited atm

[hollow moon]

i want to play on ultra

[fallow cobalt]

Gpu util at 50%

[fallow cobalt]

Graphics is gpu dependent not cpu. CPU doesn’t matter for graphics

Besides for maybe mirrors. Reloading with no simplified AI and 16 cars (no pooled or parked) on ultra settings

[hollow moon]

then how on lower graphics i get better fps on traffic? like cpu still render the mirrors, and reflection so i want to try ultra graphics with my ultra mirrors pixels and reflection

[fallow cobalt]

(Okay yeah cpu ain’t liking that 17 fps lol)

[fallow cobalt]

Cuz of vram. I’m sitting at 7gb vram used in 1080p ultra

[hollow moon]

then try dx11 beacuse i am gonna play on dx11 beacuse of the vram limitation

[fallow cobalt]

Dx11 will probably eat more vram

At least it does in my experience

[fallow cobalt]

15-17 fps in 1080p ultra with 16 cars no simplified. (With west coast map)

[hollow moon]

for me dosent, like i run out of vram on vulkan lol

[fallow cobalt]

Trying out dx11 with same settings

[hollow moon]

try smaller map like utah and dx11

ultra graphics and max out mirrors and reflection

[sharp stirrup]

i only got 8gb of vram I have a castrated 4070

[fallow cobalt]

West coast is best comparison to those lol

[hollow moon]

yeah but utah i play i lot lol

[fallow cobalt]

I see

18 fps with dx11 and 8.1gb of vram used from 7gb used

[sharp stirrup]

burgerring best map

[hollow moon]

sad

[fallow cobalt]

Should mention without using simplified cars you are losing a lot of fps due to how much rendering needs to be done on the cpu side for each car

[cinder topaz]

But can you take flight in this

[fallow cobalt]

Also still 18 FPS in Utah

[hollow moon]

then try simple traffic

[fallow cobalt]

Retrying with 12 cars in simple

[fallow cobalt]

75 fps with 70% gpu util and 6gb vram

[sharp stirrup]

spaceship

[hollow moon]

try 16 simple cars

[fallow cobalt]

Trying now

[cinder topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-gif-18519497

[fallow cobalt]

57-65 fps now

Stabilizing around 65-75 fps now again

[cinder topaz]

I can mod in god mobile too, this doesnt make it a Challange

[hollow moon]

pretty good but you think gonna get similar on a i3 12100?

[cinder topaz]

My point is more have you ever made your own Aero-Plane? Its incredibly rewarding

[fallow cobalt]

If you really want to get the most out of it get a eclk board

[sharp stirrup]

ok but its a spaceship

[fallow cobalt]

There are cheap eclk boards and the i3 12100f can usually go from 4.3ghz to 5.2ghz without much effort

[hollow moon]

nah i want to be stock

[fallow cobalt]

Then yeah you’ll be fine

[cinder topaz]

Stopping myself from Shitting on IRL Car mods so hard rn

[fallow cobalt]

I am honestly running this cpu with a bit of a VERY worst case senario

[hollow moon]

but what if i buy a ryzen 5 5600? gonna be more MB, gonna be better beacuse i have a amd gpu i think, and 6 cores 12t

[fallow cobalt]

Honestly I didn’t see a difference on that. I can try to run similar clocks to that (same with ring as ik what the l3 cache clocks are on it)

[gaunt turret]

rich guy with a 11yo brain money bait

[hollow moon]

but do you have 35mb lol

[fallow cobalt]

No but I can still bump ring a bit higher than those to make some performance of that up

[fringe spear]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hollow moon]

okay try it if you want

[fallow cobalt]

My 12700k can do 5ghz ring no problem generally speaking

[gaunt turret]

no real downforce btw just for show

[cinder topaz]

Cache makes stuff happen faster, clocks increase amount of work done per second and the single core performance dictates the worst scenario

[hollow moon]

so on beamMP with 15 cars gonna the ryzen be better?

[fallow cobalt]

Also I’ll say single core/multi core is much better on alder than Vermeer (Vermeer is 5600-5950x)

[gaunt turret]

3dvcache will always win in cpu sided games

[cinder topaz]

its a 12 threader right? it will likely struggle beyond 12

1 thread per car! this is a thing people should get into their heads for Beam

[hollow moon]

yeah is 12, but the intel is 8t

[fallow cobalt]

I was able to do 16 cars on my 12700k with 4c 8t at 50-60 fps playable

If ur curious tho my 12700k at 4.7ghz is about 20% better than a 5950x in single core

[sharp stirrup]

still looks cool

[gaunt turret]

my face when more = better

[cinder topaz]

Only Beam Cars? Simple or not, and ofcourse Modded or stock configs allowed for spawn? how about domestication for traffic? all these things heavily dictate traffic performance

[gaunt turret]

denied

[fallow cobalt]

Only BeamNG cars with simple traffic and it’s just regular configs based off of the environment

[cinder topaz]

Im not gonna lie to you it looks like @quaint smelt's methmobiles if he knew what meth felt like

[sharp stirrup]

looks better than the ie

[fallow cobalt]

Settings used at 16 cars no pooled no parked with Smart Selection and simplified cars

[cinder topaz]

In Example?

[fallow cobalt]

Trying out 12 threads on my 12700k now. 4.7ghz all cores with 5ghz ring lol

[sharp stirrup]

apollo ie

[cinder topaz]

send help

[hollow moon]

okay lol

[gaunt turret]

send help

[hollow moon]

and 6 cores right?

[fallow cobalt]

Yes and I’m gpu bottle necked now at least in Vulkan and in utah

[cinder topaz]

Idk how but I never liked the Scintilla it looks too like the other dudes car 😭

[fallow cobalt]

110 fps hitting gpu limit lol

[cinder topaz]

Oh wait! Lemme add yours rq

[fallow cobalt]

Gonna drop setting

[hollow moon]

then the ryzen gonna be better

[fallow cobalt]

Probably yeah I am being semi generous (as alder lake is noticeably better than Vermeer in single core)

Capping at around 150 fps with 16 cars

Gonna try 25 lol

[fallow cobalt]

108 fps with 25 cars. Let me try to bring down the core clocks to similar perf to Vermeer

[hollow moon]

but on beamng you need multi core then single core only like on roblox and another games the single core gonna make a different

[fallow cobalt]

Yeah I’m only using 62% of the cpu in Vulkan with 25 cars

Gonna try 35

[fallow cobalt]

80 fps with 75% util

[digital girder]

hello? i kinda cant walk outside the car it unbinded someone know where do i bind it back?

[fallow cobalt]

Lemme see if I can get my core clocks down to Vermeer performance

[cinder topaz]

Mogged by the Lore Friendly version

[fallow cobalt]

@hollow moon got single core down to 5950x perf (in single core)

1% margin now. Dropped clocks 700mhz to reach that lol

[hollow moon]

so what's the perf?

[fallow cobalt]

Loading in now took a minute to fine tune it

[fallow cobalt]

100 fps in utah with 16 cars

[hollow moon]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-applause-round-of-standing-gif-20790999

[fallow cobalt]

Mind you this is best case senario as it’s as similar to a 5950x as i can get single core wise. Probably more around 80 fps with a 5600x

[hollow moon]

100fps is really good, at that price.

[hollow moon]

still very good for the price a i5 is way more

[fallow cobalt]

I’d have to look at a single core number for the 5600x which I don’t have

[hollow moon]

here

and this is the i3

[fallow cobalt]

5950x is 650 5600x is 550 hold up

I can get those numbers

[fallow cobalt]

Yeah hold up

[sharp stirrup]

son im crine atleast change the time to sunset

[fallow cobalt]

Gotta lower clocks even further still too high

[olive copper]

not if you've got an i5 like mine

[cinder topaz]

Tis the Vintage Filter, and until you prove you can drive a sub 7:30 im not taking ya serious in that sense

[hollow moon]

lol

[olive copper]

the pioneers used to game on these babies for hours

[hollow moon]

btw for the ryzen 5 5600 price i can get only a used i5 9400f that is way worst

[cinder topaz]

Mate, You are still throttled by DDR3, what is your point

[sharp stirrup]

no its reshade

[hollow moon]

the single i5 i afford for that money

[cinder topaz]

...

[olive copper]

I love this aging machine

[fallow cobalt]

I got the performance down

[olive copper]

it's impressive how well a 12 year old system can do in the modern day

[hollow moon]

okay

[cinder topaz]

I dont see why you shouldnt, just dont tell a person upgrading that its bad for not being intel

[fallow cobalt]

Dropped clocks from 4ghz to 3.2ghz 😭

[olive copper]

I think you severely misinterpereted what I said

[sharp stirrup]

not using that

[hollow moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-nodding-nod-yes-fortnite-gif-6620789258176886532

[cinder topaz]

I myself have used an I7 3770 for ages actually

[olive copper]

"still very good for the price a i5 is way more"
"not if you've got an i5 like mine"
(the joke is that it's Haswell and you can grab one for like $15 on eBay)

[cinder topaz]

I see, they are theorizing what processor to upgrade their 9th gen i3 from hence my thought since people suggested earlier getting intel when one had an AM5 board and DDR5 ram already

[olive copper]

it comes down to total system cost

[fallow cobalt]

@hollow moon 82 fps with 5600 performance/core clocks

[hollow moon]

Wow that's way better then the i3

[cinder topaz]

What map are we testing traffic on.

[hollow moon]

try 16 cars no simple

[olive copper]

if it costs more to buy a 9400F than it does to buy an AM4 board and an R5 5600, it's probably better to switch to AM4

[cinder topaz]

I will test R5 3600 Performance on it. Just speak its name

[olive copper]

you won't need new RAM

[fallow cobalt]

Utah in dx11. Using my 12700k as a comparison platform since I can drop core clocks to similar numbers to Vermeer. Keeping ring high so cache clocks are somewhat decent

[half flare]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-uncanny-cat-cat-horror-cinema-uncanny-gif-12517324166462510331

[hollow moon]

with a motherboard is more expensive then the i5 but still way worst i think

[fallow cobalt]

16 cars simplified btw for that

[olive copper]

how much would an AM4 board cost

[cinder topaz]

I see, let me load up the map rq

[hollow moon]

utah ultra graphics 16 no simple car try

[fallow cobalt]

18 fps still

[hollow moon]

90$

[olive copper]

I can crunch these numbers

[hollow moon]

sad

[fallow cobalt]

Btw I dropped my core clocks from 4.7ghz to 3.2ghz to get Vermeer/5600 single core

[cinder topaz]

I only play on ultra. with lowered shadow res and textures*

[hollow moon]

okay then is good

[fallow cobalt]

I had to drop graphics cuz I was becoming gpu bottlenecked

I wonder how much fps I can get out of a stock 12700k now

[olive copper]

I'm assuming you want the absolute fastest thing you can get for whatever your budget may be

[cinder topaz]

in a Nouva Bolide im getting 80-75fps sans traffic With or without cops?

[fallow cobalt]

I’m doing without rn

[hollow moon]

200$ for motherboard and cpu because i am selling my xbox series s

[olive copper]

gotcha

[olive copper]

and you already have RAM and a graphics card, right?

[hollow moon]

yup ddr4 and rx 580

[pallid stump]

how do i flip through vehicles? like if i have multiple vehicles spawned in and i want to go onto them what do i press

[olive copper]

the TAB key

[pallid stump]

ty

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @olive copper (current: #221 - 25)

[fallow cobalt]

I’ve been meaning to do a cpu tune for awhile now

[olive copper]

the RX 580 might be a little underpowered but that's not the worst thing in the world

[fallow cobalt]

Depending on ur region I can give you a slightly modded 1080 ti

[cinder topaz]

4 cars 2 traffic = -5fps loss totalling 70

[fallow cobalt]

You’re only doing 4 cars?

[olive copper]

are you specifically looking for new CPUs only? (not used, doesn't explicitly mean latest-generation)

[hollow moon]

that's very good lol

[fallow cobalt]

I’m doing 16 traffic

[cinder topaz]

Balling out

[hollow moon]

yeah kinda want new

[fallow cobalt]

Disabled pools and parked and set it to 16

As fair comparison as I can get I’ll get back to 12100f perf

[fallow cobalt]

Honestly kinda limiting. I can give you some more ddr4

I got a lot laying around (I saved up before the shortage)

[cinder topaz]

It simply does not care, though it seems its still few cars let me reset the spawning

[fallow cobalt]

You gotta respawn the traffic for it to apply

[cinder topaz]

Utah is piss easy to run anyhow, please try WCUSA. thats a real test as its Careermode in practice

[fallow cobalt]

Yea

WCUSA was my original but he wanted Utah

[cinder topaz]

it certainly isnt enjoying it

[olive copper]

a 5600 new will eat your entire budget

[fallow cobalt]

I’m going to load into WCUSA with my i3 12100f config (4c8t 4.1ghz with 3.6ghz ring)

[olive copper]

$169

[hollow moon]

somehow i can still get it at 200$ with a motherboard too lol

[fallow cobalt]

Ring is 4.1ghz on the 12100f but I have more cache than it since different die (H0 vs C0)

[cinder topaz]

Ultra Max Simple traffic halts my PC to 30 odd ish FPS but this is likely a RAM bottleneck combining the lack of cores, let me try sans parking

[hollow moon]

really? then is way better amd

from 18fps to 30 is way better

[fallow cobalt]

35 fps in WCUSA DX11 16 cars with simplified

[hollow moon]

on the i3?

[fallow cobalt]

I3 perf yes

Core clocks might not be set properly tho (I’m sitting at 3.6ghz core clocks rn)

[hollow moon]

but is that simple traffic or not?

[olive copper]

with a $200 budget, I'd strongly recommend used parts over new ones

[fallow cobalt]

It’s simple

[cinder topaz]

... are you...

[hollow moon]

i can get more money, i don't really want used something fresh ngl

[fallow cobalt]

Simple traffic utah dx11 ultra is 61 fps with 16 cars. @cinder topaz how much are you getting?

In 1080p btw

[cinder topaz]

I play 1200P generally

[olive copper]

that's fair enough

[fallow cobalt]

Resolution don’t matter much rn the matter is if ur cpu limited

[fallow cobalt]

Btw I’m running a very cursed ddr5 config so ur doing better than me rn ram wise

[olive copper]

if you can get the board and CPU for $200, go for it. the 5600 will pretty much annihilate the 9400F

you're getting more buying that combo than what you would have saved buying a new 9400F for $120

[hollow moon]

and the i3 12100 too? i have 2 choices i3 or ryzen 5 5600

[olive copper]

yep

[hollow moon]

i had very bad experience with intel that's why i said first that intel is bad lol

this i3 9100 got me nightmares on windows 10 and 11

[olive copper]

it's not quite an annihilation against the 12100, but they're very similar

[hollow moon]

but whats better for these games wait a bit gonna give a screenshot

[olive copper]

a full system for $200 will easily beat out just buying the chip for $192

[hollow moon]

here my games

[cinder topaz]

minor amount of CPU heavy titles 😭 🥀

[hollow moon]

that is running like ass on my i3🥀

[fallow cobalt]

Yeah the i3 would be better honestly

Cuz those are cpu dependent games not too much gpu besides for beam

[sonic token]

I will add your i3 to my prayers

[hollow moon]

thanks lol

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @sonic token (current: #2033 - 1)

[cinder topaz]

without any parked cars im getting a rough ish 30 FPS on 12 Cars

[fallow cobalt]

But I’ll say this

[night saddle]

[blissful depot]

is there any info if beamng devs think about making ffb better for dd wheels? its so bad and so hard to tune

[cinder topaz]

Nevermind im an idiot those are non simple cars

[night saddle]

i just use simple traffic to boost my fps

[fallow cobalt]

Saying that Intel is bad while running a 2019 low end CPU is honestly kinda stupid

[sonic token]

Almost breaking your wrist and fingers is part of the game!

[hollow moon]

i want to play teardown but cant beacuse xbox is not giving on pc

[olive copper]

what the hell you doin with mcafee on that computer

[night saddle]

i uninstalled it but it never truly left

[olive copper]

ah, you're cursed

[cinder topaz]

re-doing it with simple cars

[blissful anvil]

no that's not how updates work, usually ffb changes are mentioned after the changelog is out

[night saddle]

it lives in task manager sucking up ram

[cinder topaz]

50FPS smooth. @12cars

[mossy karma]

#mods-discussion message try this

[blissful depot]

well i wish i could have that! if game wouldnt be too stupid to actualy simulate whats happening in the game for lower torque dd wheels!

[blissful depot]

whats changelog?

[mossy karma]

and you can try using the response correction curve
what wheel do you have?

[blissful anvil]

the log where changes are... logged

[olive copper]

hey guys intel kinda sucks

[fallow cobalt]

Ur not any better lol

[cinder topaz]

Increase the setup FFB rate and turn off the fakening in the FFB control. its delightful once configured manually

[blissful anvil]

just go to #game-announcements and find out

[sonic token]

Oh!

[blissful depot]

its not oscillation its the part where for drifting the wheel doesnt go as it should to the sides or vibrates or for normal driving it doesnt give the feedback of whats happening to the car

[olive copper]

very terrible and bad
-# ignore that my CPU is older than some of the members of my immediate family

[cinder topaz]

I mean 12th gen CPUs literally sharted themselves pre BIOS update mate

[blissful depot]

im trying to do it for past 2 months now.. whats fakening?

[fallow cobalt]

Wasn’t that 13-14th

[olive copper]

are you sure that isn't the Raptor Lake i7s and i9s?

[mossy karma]

still try it
what wheel do you have? if you’re talking about it not self steering, try increasing the caster on the car and show me your settings

[fallow cobalt]

Not 12th gen. 12th gen has been perfect all round in my opinion

[mossy karma]

13-14. 12th is fine

[fallow cobalt]

Yeah even then it’s been fixed now

[olive copper]

good thing I'm bullshitting, I love this computer

[cinder topaz]

side accelaration strength

[blissful depot]

moza r3 i tried the curve but it doesnt really do anything i cant get the file

[quaint smelt]

That does NOT look like my builds

[hollow moon]

final conclution... ryzen gonna be the pick

[blissful depot]

i have it off

[cinder topaz]

If you actually smoked meth I said

[fallow cobalt]

Been fixed for over a year. But Intel isn’t too bad nova lake might honestly be best to hop to if you need a good upgrade path as their planning to add bllc to all unlocked sku desktop counter parts including the core ultra 5 435k or sum

So 6p+ like 8e + 4lpe + 144mb l3 cache

[cinder topaz]

These are my Settings for a G920 mind you

[olive copper]

holy acronyms

[blissful anvil]

"good upgrade path" and the socket is dead 1 generation later

[blissful depot]

it does self steer it just feels heavy or like idk too slow? its hard to explain but as i spent some time drifting more in assetto coming to beamng feels like the wheel doesnt really want to self turn but it does and its just idk messed up rlly

[blissful anvil]

increase caster

[blissful depot]

like with lag or something like that

[mossy karma]

in moza pithouse, set your strength to max and degrees of rotation to max
in beamng, enable 1:1 always on, restart the game
tune the strength of the wheel to your preference and try again

[cinder topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/lain-lain-iwakura-demilore-serial-experiments-lain-anime-gif-16205058719915137553

[fallow cobalt]

6 performance cores + 8 efficient cores + 4 low power efficient cores + 144 megabytes of level 3 cache

[mossy karma]

also keep in mind that for ffb to properly work you need 60 fps minimum

[olive copper]

my computer is being dumb and weird, like extremely dumb and weird

[blissful depot]

alrighty and can you explain how to get the correction curve for beamng from moza wheel? is it even possible?

[hollow moon]

in my opinion going ryzen i cant, just cant after all this shit happened on my i3 i just cant

[mossy karma]

talkswithnoise has a video on youtube about it

[blissful depot]

i have 80 minimum so no problem with fps for me

[cinder topaz]

Alot of cars are TERRIBLY tuned by devs, I personally manually adjust every cars suspension with @gaunt turret for performance driving

[mossy karma]

the visualization graph is broken since 0.38 but it should still work otherwise

[sonic token]

Ew there's a cyber truck outside my window

[mossy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[blissful depot]

his tutorial didnt help i did watch it and the curve doesnt appear when i put the file into beamng

[sonic token]

Ah good idea

[cinder topaz]

Is this saying you are not going for AMD?

[olive copper]

there's clearly some kind of input-based frame limiter, but the problem I'm having is that it:

• is hard locked to 60fps
• is locked to 30fps if I sit on the window and don't do anything
• somehow isn't locked to 30 when I tab out???

I don't know what the hell is wrong with this thing

[blissful depot]

ooh okay thanks for that info i though it just doesnt work

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @mossy karma (current: #8 - 240)

[mossy karma]

that’s the broken visualization but it should physically work

[sonic token]

I have a ryzen-

[quaint smelt]

dw I gotchu

Airstrike Inbound

[cinder topaz]

I will enjoy my 12 cars at 50fps alone then

[blissful anvil]

ignore it, visualization curve is broken but the curve does work

[hollow moon]

no saying going to amd

[cinder topaz]

ah

[blissful anvil]

just pull up the ffb graph view before and after applying it

[hollow moon]

i cant go intel after all this shit happened with my i3

[mossy karma]

also what car are you using

[sonic token]

Ah wait there's #irl-photography

[olive copper]

keep flexing, but we all know who the true champion is.

1 car, 50FPS.

[cinder topaz]

Good question from you, mod cars as rude as it sounds are generally tuned by fools I would add

[sonic token]

Try one Royal renderings car with 200 fps

[olive copper]

see?

[cinder topaz]

I smell XFCE

[olive copper]

the hell is that

I'm curious

[blissful anvil]

I don't think most people have suspension knowledge beyond the surface level honestly, maybe slightly deeper

[olive copper]

I still don't quite understand

[cinder topaz]

Right but then you shouldnt make a "Race Trim" of your mod

[blissful anvil]

that doesn't stop people from doing so

[mossy karma]

talking to ffb guy

my nose on its deriod

[olive copper]

windows 11... a check-up is due (it took me a second to realize my last name was on screen)

[cinder topaz]

oop forgot to answer, I assumed you used Linux, its a desktop enviroment that is incredibly easy to run and has lotsa config stuff to show FPS n such without stealing it

[olive copper]

I'm currently running Windows 11 22H2 with the Steam Performance Overlay

[raven mortar]

Microsoft Windows try not to dox you challenge (impossible)

[cinder topaz]

@hollow moon 12 cars on simple traffic R5 3600 with 16GB@3266

[hollow moon]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-really-oh-gif-8312929

[azure hinge]

from what i heard everywhere else, correction curves aren't meant for DD wheels, they're for manufacturing/wear differences between belt wheels even of the same model. you can fine tune ffb detail in the moza software itself

[mossy karma]

i hope i can get like a used cpu for cheap or something for my lga1700 socket or whatever it’s called
some sorta upgrade over my i5 12600kf

[cinder topaz]

that means it a quite stable 50 to 60fps with CPU throttleing top side shows min; max and avg FPS

[olive copper]

that's really funny

[hollow moon]

then guess hows going ryzen🤑

[olive copper]

gpu bottleneck, my ass. barely hits 70% usage

[cinder topaz]

its also showing my entire specs I see

[olive copper]

I don't think any Navi 2 card could bottleneck a 4690K

[cinder topaz]

Well I told you from the start its a better choice to go AM4 and trim up or go straight AM5 with a 7th gen if its in budget RAM wise

[olive copper]

he's got $200 to work with, so probably not AM5

[hollow moon]

i have 32gb ram so gonna be good dd4

[cinder topaz]

Ma'am thats terrible

[olive copper]

yes, yes it is

I find it funny that the game is just lying, straight up

[cinder topaz]

How the fuck is my RX580 8GB mogging it so hard 😭

[olive copper]

your system is balanced

[hollow moon]

xbox playanywhere are we dead ass, instead of adding teardown to finally play it on pc you put this game euisfhiuafhioefiow

[slender echo]

I love the fact that in career mode I can buy a bus for 66k, remove all its parts and sell them for 42k, THEN sell JUST THE CHASSIS for 59k 😭😭✌️✌️

[fallow cobalt]

Decent bit worse than my 12100f config

[olive copper]

this is a family system managed by my dad, and when the R9 390 went kaput the 6650 was the replacement

[fallow cobalt]

I was getting 60 fps with 16 cars

[cinder topaz]

I just realised you are friends with Satsuma and Transit thats funny asf seeing mutuals randomly

[olive copper]

it comes down to the rest of the machine

you have a pretty solid AM4 computer

[slender echo]

The R5 3600 is too goated (same here but w 16gb 2666

[night saddle]

R7 my beloved though

[cinder topaz]

My next CPU is the 3700X funnily enough since im getting it for 20 bucks from my moms PC

[hollow moon]

?

[olive copper]

that right there is the deal that sunk the titanic

[night saddle]

thats a good deal its the cpu i have

[hollow moon]

vs ryzen

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-gif-26626003

I HAVE PROOF HERE.

[night saddle]

is the resolution the same though?

[hollow moon]

yes 1080p

[olive copper]

these are decently old screenshots

[hollow moon]

yes but still intel is not gonna be better

[olive copper]

yeah, a quad-core i3 will almost definitely lose to a hexa-core ryzen 5

[hollow moon]

knew it

is basic math

[olive copper]

two extra cores = 4 extra threads

[olive copper]

which ryzen though

[hollow moon]

so happy to buy ryzen thanks guys

[hollow moon]

ryzen 5 5600

[olive copper]

just making sure

[hollow moon]

and the gpu is a rx 6600 on the ryzen

[olive copper]

the 5600 has 4 extra threads, literally triple the amount of L3 cache, and it clocks 100MHz higher

[hollow moon]

to 19mb to 32mb lol

ryzen way better

[olive copper]

the 12100F has 12mb

[olive copper]

wrong takeaway, ryzen is better because it offers better performance for what you end up paying

[hollow moon]

Oh LMAO EVEN THE i5 FROM 2019 HAVE MORE what drugs they are smoking at intel

[olive copper]

it's an i3

[hollow moon]

but still 2022 vs 2019

[olive copper]

see haswell vs kaby lake

(2013 4th gen vs 2016 7th gen)

they barely changed at all

haswell i5? 4 cores, 4 threads, 6mb of L3

kaby lake i5? 4 cores, 4 threads, 6mb of l3

[hollow moon]

lol

[olive copper]

zen 3 was cracked

[night saddle]

this is with 18 traffic on my R7 3700x

although it is 1440p

[gaunt turret]

much love

[hollow moon]

is better worst or the same like a ryzen 5 5600?

[olive copper]

it's complicated, the 5600 has faster cores but the 3700x has more

[cinder topaz]

Dont forget to upgrade the cooler at some point as on RPCS3 I once hit 110 Celsius core heat on the AMD Stock cooler they gave me

[night saddle]

i cant say 100% but i think it would be the same or better

[hollow moon]

https://tenor.com/view/heat-gif-6683656506547458469

[olive copper]

I think you're running better with 18 cars at 1440P than I am with 1 car at 1080P

[hollow moon]

then the ryzen 5 5600 is a good cpu very good for the money

[cinder topaz]

I would say slightly better on multicore, yet worse single core for the R7

lets see spec wise

[olive copper]

the 3700X is 8 cores, 16 threads, and it's a zen 2 chip

[night saddle]

yeah i mean ive seen people with newer R5s run beam better than my older R7

[olive copper]

the 5600 is 6 cores and 12 threads on zen 3, which has absurdly good single-threaded performance

[night saddle]

the only thing to consider is im on vulkan and that may eat up your vram before your cpu can shine

[olive copper]

zen laid the blueprints, zen+ refined them, zen 2 fleshed them out, and zen 3 perfected it

[cinder topaz]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600/4043vsm1822932

This agrees with my first sentiment though userbenchmark prefers intel iirc so thats a bit skewed

[hollow moon]

i want to upgrade to a rx 7600 but only 8gb so probably still too low vram lol

[olive copper]

AMD vs AMD should still be fair game on userbenchmark

[night saddle]

well that clip is with my 2070super that has 8gb you generally shouldnt have an issue with vram unless its a modded map thats tough to run

[cinder topaz]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/4043vs4040

wtf its like exactly the same as mine on this site

Ah! Lower Clocks!

[hollow moon]

here the difference on cs2

[hollow moon]

oh then i am good

[night saddle]

also why do people hate user benchmark i forgot

[cinder topaz]

The R7 runs at 3.6GHZ Stock Boosts, whilst mine runs at 3.95GHz making it roughly equal for non multithreading

[hollow moon]

and beamng

[cinder topaz]

Prefer intel over AMD generally and Nvidia too

[night saddle]

and it wont crash either my texture streaming just gets fucked on some modded maps

cause i run out of vram

[cinder topaz]

this is an issue on where the game is stored though also

[night saddle]

ah

[cinder topaz]

what GPU do you have again?

[hollow moon]

cool

[night saddle]

2070super the texture streaming doesnt go all wacky if i lower texture quality which lowers vram usage

on west coast in those clips it was on max cause its not a modded map

ive been told i should be on 1080p

[olive copper]

perhaps

[cinder topaz]

Fair, im on Normal Textures on an 8GB RX580

HOLY SHIT

I JUST GAVE IT A TINY BIT MORE JUICE AND SUDDENLY MAX TRAFFIC WITH 70 FPS

ily MSI Afterburner

[night saddle]

im scared to touch anything cause it already gets hot as hell

[cinder topaz]

I have decided I will downclock my RAM again im scared I keep getting artifacts every 60 seconds for a split second with max traffic. I will see if this fixes my Vulkan screenshot issues

[night saddle]

ah the ol 68C cpu temp on idle

[blissful depot]

how to make it work? it doesnt fix the oscalation

[cinder topaz]

try the setting to lower FFB whilst not movng

[blissful depot]

it happens when im at fast speeds

i mean when im speeding

[cinder topaz]

try inverting FFB

[blissful depot]

not helping it just makes the ffb clipping

[surreal ore]

Mine (r7 3700x) runs at 1.7-3.6 stock and boosts to 4.2-4.4

[vivid wasp]

here I am after a long time off from Beamng, I'm looking for some ADAS mod, someone know?

[civic coral]

so- pretty much this was basic spec Taz Wagon that i bought for 7k with tax and insurance included. 240,000km driven. i changed body from wagon to coupe and rest i built and tuned myself. all and all including car price i probably paid about- 45k in this thing. but if u buy coupe from the start its down to about 30-35k. i have custom rev limiter and rev cut time is lowered to the max- while maximum rev is over 8k. that paired with stock radiator engine overheats constantly. u should have less issue with rcing radiators but from my experience if u push it for about 10km it will still start to overheat. (i made back about 13k selling parts so that takes price down to 20-25k if u buy coupe from the start)

[fallow cobalt]

absurdly good is barely 10th gen so idk

10th-11th gen

my problem with vermeer rn is they keep doing refreshes of chips that are already pretty old

the first chips of zen 3 released in 2020. its been 6 years and theyre still doing refreshes to profit off of us (with older chips that perform worse than the counterparts that are similar)

like the 5600f should be similar to the 5600 but instead its dropped clocks by 400mhz again which really hurts in zen 3's case as it scales in perf pretty well with clocks

[fallow cobalt]

zen was honestly pretty garbage though. It does not have a good imc so memory is kinda garbage (you can barely run ddr4 3000) and yes core configs were good but was still missing some of the single core that it really needed

zen 5 is honestly peak amd rn. Its really good the ihs isnt a big ass problem (it has been since zen) and its also really good imc wise

[civic coral]

i swear to god man

[fallow cobalt]

which yes tuning ram gives you a good bit more performance compared to xmp or jedec. (sometimes up to like 20-30% depending but it depends on IC)

and yes ill say this zen 3 is the better option for price right now but intel has the better run if you want to stick on ddr4 (they are also working on 12c/24t cpus for lga 1700 but is ddr5 only apparently)

[olive copper]

by my standards absurdly good is anything above haswell

[pallid breach]

when i first looked at this I thought it was like a digital speedometer for a car lmao

[sonic steeple]

Hey everyone, I'm new to beamng. Does anyone know where i can find a mod for a 1967 chevrolet impala from a trusted place?

[coarse sigil]

the forums, if theres none there, then theres no mod for it

[sonic steeple]

I'll have a look there, thank you

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @coarse sigil (current: #66 - 77)

[sonic token]

Yeah, avoid mod leak sights at all costs

I'm lucky to have survived my riskiness

[mossy karma]

#mods-faq

[wheat marlin]

tried running beamng on my thinkpad and i failed 🤑

[dense escarp]

photo was rushed

[cinder topaz]

The Pilots Test is ready

[cinder topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/driving-gif-13675175187555953757

Looking at it I was indeed rocked as hard with the enhanced driver cam as richard, this bitch loves to snap oversteer

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-jeremyclarkson-gif-4922356

[golden vector]

i did some troubleshooting not working 😂✌️

[golden vector]

f10 does nothing ok

[coarse sigil]

its f12

[golden vector]

wut

[coarse sigil]

f12 is to screenshot

[golden vector]

oh your right i feel so stupid now

[cinder topaz]

Press Alt+Win+R to record using windows

[limber bear]

Using a screen recorder (best option ever) ❌

Using your phone to record your screen like an absolute mold eater ✅

[cinder topaz]

Helping the poor fellow ❌

being a douchebag to the kid ✅

[golden vector]

thanks

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @cinder topaz (current: #561 - 8)

[golden vector]

but i dunno how to fix this problem

[limber bear]

People who record screens with their phones should get bullied into using at the very least the built in scren recorder ❤️

[cinder topaz]

Disable your mods btw, one by one if need be

[golden vector]

ok

[cinder topaz]

You know you can just tell them how instead of being a twat?

[limber bear]

It's common knowledge though?

[golden vector]

i never knew that

[random edge]

how to fix eror

[limber bear]

Either way i was saying it as satire, and you got pissy over a single overused joke. Come on

[golden vector]

sleep and it will go away after 2 hours

[cinder topaz]

We're you born with this knowledge? No? You like everyone else had to learn it by yourself or a peer pointing it out, you can laugh but you have to be helpful afterwards! otherwise you just appear rude-

Im not trying to shit on you but educate you as im tired of how many people just shit on newbies and then forget to help em at all causing em to grow potentially pissed with the game for having a shit community

[limber bear]

I'm pretty sure any windows computer has that annoying pop up about the screen recorder, which would be enough to atleast acknowledge something like that exists. Besides, i know people watch gameplay videos, and that clearly isn't recorded with a phone. Just a little curiousity goes a long way 👍

[floral hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064335716802371708/1312598934077837413/togif.gif

[cinder topaz]

I dont disagree, again im not mad at you. More people as Anfini

[limber bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239693595917811753/1435880445454848130/convert.gif

[floral hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1072531454443143251/1185663838524289134/caption.gif

[cinder topaz]

Okay, waste of bandwidth

[golden vector]

the impossible whopper should be impossible to get or eat because its impossible

[limber bear]

...

Buddy holly and the who?

[cinder topaz]

But does Barberas Rhubarb bar sell Rhubarb Pie to Rhubarb Robbers or do Rhubarb robbers rob Barberas Rhubarb bar?

[limber bear]

https://tenor.com/view/hooleesheet-hoo-lee-sheet-hoo-lee-sheet-gif-16354327907717246876

[golden vector]

i have no idea

[golden vector]

but if you drove would there be a beam or an ng but drove is driving and driving is drive and you beam to ng

[limber bear]

The speech bubble is below your username

[cinder topaz]

Who beams who into the Next Generation?

[random edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710083151485206619/1161749251597021304/toolong.gif?ex=65396e4d&is=6526f94d&hm=02b0d093c7b8b43abdb746b1df10452a125ee90fa0caa48194320827d4a8d849&

[limber bear]

Still under your username

[sly fog]

hy all ...how can i pass from a car to another but avoid to TAB from all assets ...lol i have like 40 assets ....if i go to a specific car how can i do in a fast way thx for help

[cinder topaz]

this has always been on my mind when people post such pics

[random edge]

you just go along with it

[coarse sigil]

ctrl tab goes backwards but theres no specific way to select a particular vehicle

[sly fog]

pff a pine in the has i mean it may be a way ....i can go on all asset to get a car

[fast inlet]

Is the Ryzen 7 7700x good for beamng with lots of traffic?

[limber bear]

The what?

[cinder topaz]

I suppose you could exit the vehicle to get into walk mode and fly to the other vehicle press f8 and get in though I doubt its too fast over tab spamming

[limber bear]

Pine in the has 😭

[sly fog]

[fast inlet]

I am upgrading to am5 and am not sure what cpu to get

[coarse sigil]

pine in the... haas?

[golden vector]

guys rate modland under my message from 1/100

[cinder topaz]

Im not sure why he calls the cars assets honestly

[sly fog]

dsnt matter

[limber bear]

Thats the least of my concerns lmfao

[random edge]

im crine or something idk im too old for this

[cinder topaz]

F7 I meant* F8 is flying

[limber bear]

Why is "a pine in the has" so fucking funny at 10:30PM?

[cinder topaz]

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if it was another Youtube kids "channel". Im just here to theorize about cars

[limber bear]

Im trying not to wake my cat up but im pissing myself laughing 😭

[cinder topaz]

You may be as baked as I am in a sec, did the german weed alr pass the borders LMAO

[limber bear]

😭 probably lmfao

[wary sparrow]

i'd be confused too if a giant carrying the sun on his head kidnapped me, put me in a plastic box, looked at me for a few minutes and threw me back where he found me

[low sphinx]

anyone got any good free mods?

[coarse sigil]

#mods-discussion pins

[low sphinx]

ohh ok

[night saddle]

0

1 is too much

[merry prawn]

0

[fluid flax]

i love the segra

[mellow berry]

uhh

[cinder topaz]

compressus

[mellow berry]

what

[runic smelt]

thanks for the sound effects mate

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @mellow berry (current: #386 - 13)

[mellow berry]

uhh

love when ai tries to kill you

[violet rain]

Something ending with x3d

[sharp stirrup]

Poopx3d

[cinder topaz]

outdated broken mod

[cinder topaz]

better than the knowledge it was your own fault

my front got air, smashed into the ground ruining the suspension alightment sending me into a wall

[half flare]

career vehicular

absolutely sucks

[cinder topaz]

cute, I got a musty Moonhawk and AW Bete Cup Car

unless you want the car to be burly than sick car bro?

[cinder topaz]

How come anyhow?

[half flare]

I was flat foot and there's no power

[hybrid topaz]

i didn't know you could unzip the window on the sunburst

[cinder topaz]

Try a lighter flywheel

[paper palm]

what r the 2 modern etks based off

[pine turtle]

why does the game look so weird in 3 monitor mode

[wary sparrow]

why

[pine turtle]

idk thats why im askin

[wary sparrow]

how does it look weird

[coarse sigil]

bmw 3 series and mercedes e class/clk

and if you are curious, the i series is audi 80/bmw e30

[exotic girder]

Can we pls make this a sticker?

[lyric plank]

the ffe sp13 is an unholy creation made with orphan tears in the deepest pits of hell

[wary sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266843788425302138/1381200037425582190/attachment-118.gif

[mild jasper]

oh god

[lyric plank]

unrealistic, missing an audi driver tailgating you in an s1

[coarse sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-we-have-a-true-get-this-man-a-true-true-gif-8856917097123019081

[mild jasper]

well is an real moddel car so ...

[exotic girder]

I think I broke the game…

[lyric plank]

what were you trying to achieve anyway

[exotic girder]

This was the result of a mod

[mild jasper]

remember to not install russian mods in modland ...

[coarse sigil]

remember to not install mods in modland ...*
FTFY

[exotic girder]

That was from the official Beam site

[lyric plank]

he aint got the mowdur but he got the spirit

[mild jasper]

i have 240 mods from there but 0 problems ( i install some russian vehicles but nothing wrong

[coarse sigil]

try posting a link there here and see what happens

[mild jasper]

what ?

[lyric plank]

i have like 150 mods, all from the repo and all lore friendly pessima ripoff slop

[coarse sigil]

try posting a modland link in this server

[lyric plank]

don't

[mild jasper]

better not , maybe got warned and disable to talk a little time

[lyric plank]

hamond, i've got a slight problem

[half flare]

swapping out the 1.6 for a 2l seems to have solved my issue

[vital apex]

my wl 40 is going slow even after i reset it

fixed

my breaks got stuck for some reason

[exotic girder]

Is it that one Tango mod?

[wintry plinth]

every. Single. Time.

Every time I start to have fun it bricks

[ionic plover]

Were any traffic cars spawned in?

[wintry plinth]

Oh tons lmao

Chasing one actively when it happened, way she goes

[lyric plank]

yes

i wish there was a clapped out version of the tango that could do hypercar speeds because it would be funny

[cinder topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/lain-iwakura-serial-experiments-lain-sel-smile-gif-8316055657249471214

[viscid quartz]

someone pulled infront of me in MP and then the voices of the demons started speaking lmao

[mossy karma]

😨

[viscid quartz]

really funny audio bug kinda scared me for a little bit

[wintry plinth]

I wonder who wore the head on collision better 👀

[viscid quartz]

oh and the game just crashed right after the clip

[vital apex]

a had a bug where police were these baja cars i forgot the mod and the transmission breaks if you shift into gear while the engine is running so i had police cars that cant move lol

[lethal mirage]

does beamng have an in-depth automatic transmission simulation or no? like does it simulate clutches/bands engaging or disengaging, torque converter lockup, etc

[viscid quartz]

kinda

[vital apex]

i dont really know i know automatics creep forward in gear like irl

[viscid quartz]

converter lock is simulated, but in my experience by looking through the code its pretty simple

for the transmission part*

[wintry plinth]

yo I had it handled 😭

[lethal mirage]

it doesn't simulate transmission wear does it

like can clutches slip if you overheat or neutral drop it enough times? i havent even seen anything abt it simulating fluid temp

[civic helm]

only synchros on manuals
oh actually yeah, clutches can overheat

[ionic plover]

Oil overheats

[lethal mirage]

yeah but i mean transmission

[cold bone]

Ok Yall know the dam in automation test track right?

[ionic plover]

yes?

Typing up a whole essay

[cold bone]

I’ve recently been trying to, starting from in front of the right hand tunnel entrance, drive a car as fast as possible up the access tunnel (including the hairpin to the upper tunnel) and then down the spillway, landing where I started with the car being driveable.

I’ve gotten close on practice runs of the individual sections, but am way off on the overall run. I’ve been wondering if anyone else has tried this

Also yeah I am

[ionic plover]

Haven't tried

[cold bone]

I neglected to grab a screen recording as I didn’t have steam open

[cold bone]

It’s pretty fun. If someone got really good at it they could maybe use it on a manhunt

Idk tho

[viscid quartz]

in career its loosely simulated, just shifts a little slower. but for autos they dont have any temp simulation at all, only the standards have clutch thermals.

[mellow berry]

how many hours yall have

[ionic plover]

450

[mellow berry]

i would have a 1000 but i used my brothers steam account at first

[ionic plover]

only way that time is acceptable is if you've been playing since 2016 or earlier

[cinder topaz]

I only have 809 :(

[mellow berry]

and before that... well... i wont say

[viscid quartz]

its basically the only game ive played since 2019

[mellow berry]

yes

[rugged badger]

hm

[mellow berry]

that was like 2020-2021

[viscid quartz]

I would have gotten the game way way way earlier if I had a capable computer (the only computer we had at the time was a mac 💀 )

[mellow berry]

i had a laptop with 8 gigs of ram

[cinder topaz]

Im not judging, been there done that circa 2015-17

[mellow berry]

and no gpu

i would get like 17 fps in wcusa

[cinder topaz]

I believe I was playing on an i3 3220m lappy with AMD graphics that were not really better, but 640x480 gridmap smashing and testing was always fun so I bought it when I could and still play it, I wanna get back into modding like circa 2021 and start Speedrunning Rally and AI races since im boycotting Ubisoft and for such refuse to play Trials

[viscid quartz]

in 2019 when I started i had this old laptop with the slowest hdd and a really bad battery, was only to play on gridmap with 30fps

[cinder topaz]

my ass could never do the looping, with a wheel its piss easy nowadays because im in control

[median python]

how

[viscid quartz]

BeamNG addiction

I also play automation and other games but thats my primary go-to.

[median python]

That checks ig

[ionic plover]

Beamaholic

[mellow berry]

i never messed with the resolution

i was dumb

[half flare]

real

[granite thorn]

the citizens trying to "help" is such ragebait

i was chasing a car down the main highway in wcusa and a bus decides the best way it can help is by swerving into my vehicle while i was going 100+ and letting the npc get away

[wintry plinth]

amazing

[rugged badger]

this thing is fuggin fast

probably shouldn't go 230 in a Covet

[shadow flax]

Hello I bought the game, any quick tips?? or am I going to learn as I play

Is the loading meant to be this long?

[rapid bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-bang-theory-jim-parsons-sheldon-cooper-what-a-noob-noob-gif-5408039

[rapid bridge]

your computer is prob a potato

[shadow flax]

My pc has a rx 9070 xt and rx 9700 x

I'm pretty sure it's not my pc

[wintry plinth]

LMAO they blew my shit up

smallest pickup in the USA:

[tulip panther]

Holy shit 😭

[wintry plinth]

it'll roast em in 6th gear.. makes about 100lbs of boost lmao

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @coarse sigil (current: #64 - 78)

[velvet temple]

As somebody who never used traffic, I have no memories of the wentward ever spawning
I mean, yeah that makes sense

[zinc forge]

Here's my thingamabob from eons ago

[shadow flax]

why is the handling so dogshit bro absolute waste of money

[viscid quartz]

the game?

[shadow flax]

yes the game bro

already requested a refund, 8 years of watching videos just for the handling to be absolute dogshit, and literally everyone on the internet says the same, insane catfishing performance

[viscid quartz]

Its realistic, cars dont just ride on rails

[shadow flax]

Not realistic at all, I've been driving for 6 years now and I'm pretty sure my car doesn't go apeshit on 30 mph when I make a slight turn

[blissful anvil]

show a video of yourself driving

[shadow flax]

Already requested a refund I don't plan on opening this ever again

[blissful anvil]

ok

[viscid quartz]

it is a VERY very realistic game. but maybe you are right and NFS or forza is a better game for you.

[shadow flax]

Realistic in what sense? cars in real life don't spin 3 times when you make a slight turn at 20 km/h

[viscid quartz]

the main reason why I had gotten NG is because of the driving dynamics. other games just dont get the driving right.

[shadow flax]

And the tire screeching when going from 15-0? what part of that is realistic

[viscid quartz]

depending on the grade and bank of the corner and if you are on the throttle or not it for sure can

[shadow flax]

Ur just arguing to argue I'm afraid, good day

[shut patio]

why do i keep getting almost loaded into a beammp server and get something saying connecting start and just freezes

[blissful anvil]

that just never happens? what are you doing lmfao

[broken musk]

yeah like wtf is this

[shadow flax]

Bro I'll actually open the game up right now if I can and clip with medal

okay watch

[viscid quartz]

im sorry but if you floored any vehicle with a open diff IRL it will spin the tires... ive done it irl.

[blissful anvil]

unless I'm misinterpreting what you mean with spin, spin could mean several things here

[quaint smelt]

Probably also has like 600 horsepower flooring it

[viscid quartz]

oh you mean braking? depends on the vehicle. if its a old car it doesnt have ABS and pressing the brakes fully will lock the wheels

[shadow flax]

how do i get out of this free camera??

[blissful anvil]

shift c oops

[viscid quartz]

shift C

[quaint smelt]

Shift + C

[shadow flax]

ok i got enough video, just look for yourself

https://medal.tv/es/games/beamng/clips/lY4HJparxgG5xMKN4?invite=cr-MSxKY0csMTc4MDc2MTk5&v=16

[blissful anvil]

oh ofc it's a bolide lmao

[shadow flax]

i can do any other car

[sour torrent]

Either ragebait or you have no idea how perspective and sensation makes real cars feel more stable then they actually are

[blissful anvil]

throttle control is incredibly critical on it, your driving just sucks

[sour torrent]

The Bolides tires are also period accurate in grip (pretty bad to start)

[viscid quartz]

that is a mid engined RWD vehicle. most of the weight is in the rear, and disrupting it (by pressing the throttle) just makes it lose traction

[agile tartan]

beammg handling is genuinely good

[broken musk]

that car demands a driving rig

[blissful anvil]

never floor an MR car with zero aero and period correct tires out of corners, that's just asking to spin out

[sour torrent]

not even, he's just bad

[shadow flax]

Mb bro if u want me to drive 10 mph on a Stambecco all the time and expect me to have fun then I guess the game is just not for me and ur all the second coming of paul walker or some

[broken musk]

shows you were i'm at with it lol

[agile tartan]

simple. stop driving on keyboard

[blissful anvil]

do you think 80s tires had enough grip to floor it out of all corners or something? what is your logic?

[broken musk]

use a controller, you'll enjoy beamng MUCH more

[shadow flax]

https://medal.tv/es/games/beamng/clips/lY4JI1SUm7Ri8qjaC?invite=cr-MSxWVHgsMTc4MDc2MTk5&v=30

Different car, explain to me how it has done a full 360 into the sand? I slightly tapped D to turn

[viscid quartz]

they wont change their opinion. they rather arcadey driving than realisim. its not a bad thing.

[agile tartan]

drive a bx or a covet

[blissful anvil]

and again you also picked a car that is very hard to push in a track stock and not to mention the funky suspension geometry choices in it

[velvet temple]

read the dark owl's description

[shadow flax]

Ok bro what car do u want me to use, tell me and I'll use it

im going to use covet

[quaint smelt]

Not to mention… the goofy ahh wheels

[sour torrent]

engagement bait calm down kid

[agile tartan]

a driving game on a keyboard eugh

[blissful anvil]

rwd over 700hp, full throttle on corner entry... no shit sherlock ofc the wheels will spin

[viscid quartz]

to mention it uses road legal tires...

[agile tartan]

he knows nothing abt how cars work when driven....

[viscid quartz]

its just bait

[agile tartan]

let alone racing

[blissful anvil]

the short gearing is also a factor in this, it's just car 101 knowledge

[agile tartan]

true

[shadow flax]

Mb I don't know particle physics and the einstein theorem but if ur calling this realistic ur brain is fried bro, its not realistic in any way, I've been driving all my life and never has my car done this let alone spin a full 360 into a sand pit

[blissful anvil]

does your car have 700 hp?

[agile tartan]

short gearing is usefull for specfic things

[agile tartan]

name realisitic games

[shadow flax]

I dont know realistic games bro this is literally my first game car ever aside from those phone games and making a simple turn was not this painful

https://medal.tv/es/games/beamng/clips/lY4O7Fcm6qW0ZNrsy?invite=cr-MSxoVlAsMTc4MDc2MTk5&v=15

[agile tartan]

thats why... mobile games have AWFULL handling thats super arcady

[shadow flax]

Spinning again brodie what u want

[gentle haven]

Why are the graphics so bad on my game compared to videos? I have everything maxed

[broken musk]

your car probably isn't a 1980s automated telephone wrapper either

[agile tartan]

beamng uses rl data

[blissful anvil]

this is a drag car. are you deliberately obtuse?

[viscid quartz]

you have thick front wheels, and thin rear wheels. when turn, rear wheels dont have the same traction as fronts and the rear kicks out.

[agile tartan]

spinming a fwd 🥀 how r u so bad look how i took the this turn

and its im a 70s car on crap tires... ur just not a good driver

[shadow flax]

Literally the only car I can somewhat drive is the one that says Vivace on the back, without it doing 3 360s

[agile tartan]

u may drive for 6 years but u never raced

[blissful anvil]

even on keyboard it's doable but keyboard is also limited and very punishing because of the lack of abs

[viscid quartz]

in a real-life situation this would happen if you had a fwd car on a icey corner, from your 6 years of driving if you live in a reigion like this you can understand how that would happen

[fallow cobalt]

I drive

[agile tartan]

bc it has assists buiilt in 🥱

[shadow flax]

ur cars literally drifting for no rsn on every turn bro what r u trying to prove

[gentle haven]

Idk what it is, the slightest stick/keyboard taps make my wheel do a full 720°

[shadow flax]

what im saying

[blissful anvil]

the reason is I'm unable to control the throttle because keyboard inputs are digital and not analog

[agile tartan]

slip angle

[broken musk]

it's controlled, is it not

[blissful anvil]

same question, do you think 80s cars had insanely grippy tires?

[shadow flax]

😭 What do 80s cars gotta do with how shit the handling is bro

[gentle haven]

its like why do I spin out so much

[blissful anvil]

you have unrealistic expectations out of this

[agile tartan]

he thinks forza handling is realisric

[viscid quartz]

"old italian spuperker? it must handle ghoods!"

[agile tartan]

we should shove him in a shitty car irl and say race around this track he will get it then :D

[blissful anvil]

this is an 80s supercar

[viscid quartz]

which I say the stock bolide does handle very well with a sim rig

[broken musk]

tire compound and specification, expectations of the driver being higher, etc

[agile tartan]

i can turn the bollide without spinning and i never drive it anymore

u just dont floor it when turning xD

[blissful anvil]

early 80s at that

[shadow flax]

https://medal.tv/es/games/beamng/clips/lY4VJZIw7oWGpqc7G?invite=cr-MSx5MTQsMTc4MDc2MTk5&v=11

What do u have to say for this bro

Literally TURNING the car and it wont turn, give me a video where that happens IRL

[quaint smelt]

I lwk think its a Skill Issue, Even I can handle driving on Keyboard

[shadow flax]

im full sending my D key and the car is alrdy struggling bro

[blissful anvil]

fwd, flooring the gas, clearly overdriving the tires

not to mention full steering lock =/= more steering

[shadow flax]

😭 do u want me to drive 10 mph all the time bro holy

[viscid quartz]

its because you shifted the weight and that weight has to go somewhere, so the car continues

[blissful anvil]

enable those assists and stop whining, notice how you're reaching full lock and therefore losing grip

[agile tartan]

-goes too fast into a turn and understeers
-suprised pikatchu face

[shadow flax]

What assists bro what is that, im going to plug my controller

[blissful anvil]

go here

[viscid quartz]

its just given at this point that this is F tier bait

[noble vortex]

This has gotta be ragebait

[viscid quartz]

for sure its bait the game loads with assists activated

you would need to actively deactivate them

[quaint smelt]

Can confirm

[broken musk]

z tier if real

[blissful anvil]

somehow looks like they're gone

game freaks out when the grip suddenly changes but he already went full lock in corner entry

[agile tartan]

mmm full steer at 80kmh? wow it understeers

[blissful anvil]

gee I wonder why

authority fallacy going on hard in here

[agile tartan]

u wuld know bc ur the tire god sod

[blissful anvil]

being a real driver doesn't automatically make you a pro driver in a game, much less when your driving in a game is poor and full of beginner mistakes or deliberately making the car spin out

steering and throttle control are important and I see none of it in these clips

[viscid quartz]

and that being said a pro driver in game doesnt equate to a great driver IRL

[agile tartan]

jist cuz u drive somewhere and home doesmt mean u know how to race

drivimg at a cars limit takes time.. practice.. patients

[blissful anvil]

if this entire conversation turns out to be ragebait then congrats I guess

[shadow flax]

Tell that to jann madenborough bro

[agile tartan]

crazy

[shadow flax]

https://medal.tv/es/games/beamng/clips/lY52n0SZ50BJBHXrh?invite=cr-MSxZYVksMTc4MDc2MTk5&v=30

Controller + assists activated is this how u want me to drive all the time bro? so fun

and even then its dogshit

[blissful anvil]

good ragebait

[shadow flax]

how am i ragebaiting brother is ur brain fried

[blissful anvil]

just because you don't know the limit it doesn't mean the game is bad

[viscid quartz]

alrighty then maybe try forza or nfs. maybe even burnout paradise.

[agile tartan]

again.. driving at the limit takes time to learn it took me 3 years

[quaint smelt]

Ehhhhhhhhh C Tier Ragebait

[agile tartan]

real

[shadow flax]

keep thinking everything is ragebait bro ur brains are fried

[ruby scroll]

fence of absolute strength

[blissful anvil]

buy more sim games and find out how bad your driving is

[agile tartan]

u expect to have god teir driving ON UR FIRST TIME like srsly

[agile tartan]

assetto :D

[viscid quartz]

https://klipy.com/gifs/race-car-16

"hi guys this is my first ng video i drift good yez"

[agile tartan]

i remember when i started i made SO MANY mistakes and had to practice to ger rid od them

[quaint smelt]

Mudrunner so he doesn’t have to worry about spinning out

[shadow flax]

even god damn roblox games have better steering than this 10 dollar cashgrab

[broken musk]

🥀

[broken musk]

alright fisherman lake is closed

[agile tartan]

12hrs? i have 500 and over 1.7k in beamng ;D

[quaint smelt]

The steering Roblox Car Games are the most Arcade you can get

[broken musk]

when i first bought it the controller support was uh...
suboptimal

[blissful anvil]

roblox is an arcade game

[shadow flax]

Then I'll keep playing my arcade stuff I can actually enjoy and not this hyper garbage 800 horsepower asscrack tire gripping fwd flooring nonsense

[agile tartan]

🙄 its so ez when u get the basics down

[shadow flax]

And leave it to you masterflooring gooners

[agile tartan]

use csp scripts

[quaint smelt]

There it is… You have an 800 Horsepower 90s sedan… and expect it to handle like an F1 Car… get real man