This shows that the conditions for life (as we understand it) existed, not that there was life.
The findings do not show evidence for life itself
#UAP_UFO disclosure
thick jetty
Also, I suspect the opportunities for open source research in this field are slim.
jade moss
jade moss
"Reacting to recent developments, Karin Austin, Michael Bohlander and Kimberly S. Engels argue that it's time we listen to those that claim to have had close encounters with UAP. [...] We argue that UAP research needs to be taken more seriously, domestically and on the international level, and should encompass all aspects of the phenomenon, not just the technological side. The enormity of the implications for humanity if some of the UAP are indeed of non-human origin is nothing short of existential. The time for indulging the “giggle factor” has long passed.[...]"
languid saddle
Karin Austin is the Director of the Center for the Impossible, Rice University
Michael Bohlander holds the Chair in Global Law and SETI Policy at Durham University
Kimberly S. Engels is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Molloy University and Research Director of the John Mack Institute.
thick jetty
Is this remark related to any open source research?
languid saddle
Is this remark related to any open source research?
No, and neither does this entire thread. Hearsay is not research. Fake videos are not research, they are disinfo and propaganda.
tight anchor
No, and neither does this entire thread. Hearsay is not research. Fake videos ...
you realize part of research is the process of disambiguating hearsay right ? thats called the pursuit of knowledge and truth, it would serve you to familiarize yourself with it
wooden mountain
Let's chill please
languid saddle
you realize part of research is the process of disambiguating hearsay right ? th...
Most people in the west have a video camera available and with them while they are outdoors. 720,000 hours of content are added to youtube every day. And if there's a UFO video, it's a fake.
And when the US Government releases its own UFO videos to the public, those are fake too.
And when people with high level clearances lie under oath to talk about goofy stuff they've seen, we learn they've had mental hygiene issues serious enough to seek professional help.
What we don't get is something to research, known as "evidence."
river imp
Let's chill please
reupping Giancarlo's post in case you missed it
languid saddle
I thought "chill" was tone-oriented, not "stop talking about this entire subject."
My comment was not invective, unlike theirs
river imp
i would say this tone isn't chill "What we don't get is something to research, known as "evidence.""
wooden mountain
This thread has always flown under the radar because obviously it's about UFOs
When it first came up I allowed it because I thought it'd be a place to calmly and logically debunk "evidence"
If it can't be that then I don't know if we should keep it
thick jetty
This is what I was contemplating. We can add a reminder and see how it goes.
stoic lichen
jade moss
This has been a bit in the news : https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/aliens-financial-crisis-bank-england-helen-mccaw-b2902690.html
jade moss
The author had previously had her paper published on the SOL foundation website in may 2024, so it's not something that is that new nor out of the blue independent from the usual crowd. https://thesolfoundation.org/publications/unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-policy-implications-for-the-government-of-the-united-kingdom/
lapis galleon
Washington DC press, james fox, moment of contact, varginha https://youtu.be/99hRVeBzTzE
tall raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYvYLQ8Klk0
Here is a cut of the first-hand witnesses
lime perch
Always thought it was weird that for something that supposedly didn’t exist could be found on every gov website around the world. https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A.gov+"ufo"
steel kayak
Always thought it was weird that for something that supposedly didn’t exist coul...
nobody is disputing the existence of UFOs or UAPs, the clue is in the name, they're unidentified phenomena. an unidentified plane is a UFO. the unsubstantiated claim is that any UFOs are extraterrestrial and intelligent in nature, and none of the pdfs you cited are firsthand accounts (even though eyewitness testimony is flawed as we all know). the first pdf you posted is a CIA-published snippet of a newspaper article claiming to report on a KGB report on the eyewitness testimonies of an alien attack in Siberia. that's like a 4th hand account. the second pdf is from some Captain claiming to retell the account of Iranian air force pilots of UFOs. the third pdf is a nonprofit claiming to prove the existence of intelligently controlled extraterrestrial craft, it's a bizarre report but quite long and would take an inordinate amount of time to discuss. suffice to say it's not a government report, it's from some nonprofit I've not heard of, NICAP.
why does it surprise you that these are on government websites? they're not government reports, governments document things, governments document an inordinate amount of things including newspaper articles. none of these are first hand accounts, none of these have had their veracity assessed by the US government, none of these have any physical evidence to them.
if it would help, substitute the claim of extraterrestrial visitation with a claim you hold to be unsubstantiated and you'll find similar recordings of it on government sites. I hold there to be no credible evidence that vaccines cause or increase the likelihood of autism, but you absolutely can find government documentation of people's claims their children developed autism after and because of being vaccinated. that doesn't mean the accounts are correct in their claims, nor that the US government endorses the claims
lime perch
nobody is disputing the existence of UFOs or UAPs, the clue is in the name, they...
I just posted screenshots in things you could find in results. Never claimed anything to be fact or fiction or first hand or second hand. I was just sparking curiosity to get people to go through things to debunk (which obviously worked). It’s surprising in a way because they spent years telling you they didn’t exist but yet they have their own research and reports on them but never talk about it but yet if you do they consider you crazy.
How can you say none of them are first hand when two pilots spoke who saw whatever it was?
steel kayak
I just posted screenshots in things you could find in results. Never claimed any...
I see a cup in front of me on the table rn. That's a firsthand account, I'm the one looking at it and I'm telling you about it. My friend saw a cup on the table, that's secondhand. My friend isn't telling you that and now you have to trust both my friend and me to be reporting it accurately. Thirdhand is a friend of a friend telling me to tell you that a cup is on the table.
The first pdf was a fourthhand account
lime perch
I see a cup in front of me on the table rn. That's a firsthand account, I'm the ...
I very well understand that but if 2 pilots are telling you what they saw on video that would be firsthand
steel kayak
Yes, it would be. But by the time we have these pdfs there's often several layers of reporting and relaying information, it makes it profoundly hard to verify if any of it is true or accurately reported. And it obscures the people involved so we can't assess their credibility nor ask further questions. It's a report of a report of a report of a testimony decades ago, supposedly
lime perch
There’s actually 3 pilots on there describing what they saw
steel kayak
and again, the CIA is not verifying the credibility by having it as a pdf
wooden mountain
For me it always boils down to this. There's two options:
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An alien race pocessing and intelligence far beyond our comprehension has managed to bend the known laws physics to its will and is able to travel lightyears across the galaxy to visit us, and is largely undetected (even in an age when high quality cameras are more available than at any other time in history) except for some grainy pictures and half-forgotten testimonies here and there, or;
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People are mistaken in what they saw in a video
Look at the ICE shooting this past weekend, we've got multiple angles of an event that happened in broad daylight and tons of people are squinting at pixels on their screen thinking that they're seeing things that aren't there
So, IMO it's much more likely that people are mistaken in their perceptions because, well, people make mistakes in their perceptions every single day. You do this, I do this, we all do this
steel kayak
the credibility of the whole topic aside, I just found the specific pdfs don't really evidence anything. eyewitness testimonies are remarkably unreliable, you need only read into the JFK assassination and see how confused everyone was around how many shots were fired. the crowds reported I believe everything from hearing no shots to five. this is all made worse when we are not directly reporting a person's account, with some evidence of them giving it like a recording. this is several layers of passing along information with little way to prove what was originally claimed
and yes there are many, many recordings of firsthand accounts but it's still just someone's claim, people can be mistaken or cynically seeking fame
wooden mountain
Do this experiment: Think back to a place where you were earlier today, or yesterday. A convenience store, or a supermarket or whatever. And think back: Who was there? What were they wearing? Which fruits were displayed at the front? Etc.
Chances are you'll struggle to remember most of the details, and whatever you do remember is liable to be wrong
lime perch
It’s hard to believe we are the only intelligent life in the universe or galaxy or whatever the proper term is. But people are mistaken quite often like Giancarlo said and best way to learn is from mistakes. Like I like to speculate a lot about things from different perspectives am I always right? Heck no but there’s times where that speculation has led to a gold mine. I think sometimes being afraid to speculate leads to a closed mind.
lime perch
Do this experiment: Think back to a place where you were earlier today, or yeste...
Bro that comes with old age too so that can make it worse trying to recall events
naive lynx
It’s hard to believe we are the only intelligent life in the universe or galaxy ...
"believe" being the operative word here.
thick jetty
I like to speculate a lot
See, that’s not what this server is here for. There are lots of places where you can speculate about UFO’s, but this server is not one of them.
What you can do is use the speculation to go out and find evidence if you can.
And everyone here will be incredibly grateful.
lime perch
> I like to speculate a lot
See, that’s not what this server is here for. There...
My speculations about how to debunk maybe if things have shown antigravity technology who makes technology like that, can you track shipments of things they make, etc leading to further debunking
steel kayak
It’s hard to believe we are the only intelligent life in the universe or galaxy ...
this is true, about likely extraterrestrial life. the idea of it reaching us is the implausible part, faster-than-light travel is potentially not possible, it certainly isn't without some hypothetical exotic matter. it makes claims of extraterrestrial visitation very hard to take as credible without a lot of evidence, unlike the claim they saw a bird in the sky because birds are all over the place. we know birds are in the sky, what we don't think is possible as yet is the ability to travel between stars without taking an inordinate amount of time, and somehow nobody notices. for example my main question is why we don't detect the heat signature of an extraterrestrial ship in our solar system. our earth-made ships make a lot of heat, they need big radiators to emit it or they'd cook the crew. where is all the heat from these advanced space ships going?
thick jetty
My speculations about how to debunk maybe if things have shown antigravity techn...
Again, if you have anything concrete we look forward to it.
Good luck!
lime perch
Again, if you have anything concrete we look forward to it.
Good luck!
Thank you sorry if I broke any rules by trying to spark curiosity into debunking like I had seen Giancarlo was wanting from this channel 💝
steel kayak
For example https://uav-en.tmotor.com/Multirotor/Motors/Antigravity/
is this a joke? this is a product line of motors to spin propellers, they are not anti-gravity tech
I hope it's a joke otherwise wait until you hear about alienware PCs
lime perch
is this a joke? this is a product line of motors to spin propellers, they are no...
Nope not a joke. Was an example of things people can look for if they want to debunk. Look at technology described, who is making something similar, where do they ship to, do shipments go to a place where there was sightings. Some people focus on the accounts rather than what is being said within the reports
I haven’t seen anyone mention methods of debunking except a geolocation post by Aric I think. Which then you have to speculate how you could debunk something like this and how I came with the idea offered for those wanting to. I’ve been stuck on my phone for days since I had to abandon my house because of the storm. So I was just trying to help with a different perspective on how to debunk.
tall raft
Check out "The Age of Disclosure" (2025) if you're curious about the UFO topic. It's got 34 government insiders talking on camera.
The big names: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Senators Gillibrand and Rounds, plus several House members from both parties.
Intelligence folks: James Clapper (former Director of National Intelligence), ex-CIA officer Jim Semivan, and Jay Stratton who ran the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
Military witnesses: Navy pilots David Fravor, Ryan Graves, and Alex Dietrich from those famous Pentagon UFO videos, plus various colonels and retired intelligence officers.
Scientists: Physicist Hal Puthoff, Eric W. Davis and Travis Taylor.
They claim there's a secret program involving the CIA, Air Force, DOE, and defense contractors that's been recovering alien craft. Its great food for thought.
steel kayak
the credibility of the whole topic aside, I just found the specific pdfs don't r...
as far as I can tell, the above documentary is yet again merely eyewitness testimony with no physical evidence to it. and I think the comment about it being great food for thought is the point here, it's just to get you wildly speculating about what evidence there might be. since there's no way to verify what they're claiming I don't really see what the documentary offers other than verbal confirmation, being told you're correct that aliens visit us, the government has evidence which it hides for some reason, no you can't see it
there's documentaries claiming all sorts, you can find people claiming vaccines cause autism to reuse my earlier example. just because there's dozens of scientists willing to execute their credibility to make that claim doesn't mean there's evidence to it. I feel like the topic of UFOs, since by their very definition are just anything flying that we haven't identified yet, can't possibly resolve that any are extraterrestrial unless we have access to them, the ability to take samples from them and explore inside of them to verify their origins. it's always grainy pictures or some bright light a pilot saw or it's a weird looking thing on some sensor. it's always conveniently far away and not findable now
lime perch
there's documentaries claiming all sorts, you can find people claiming vaccines ...
Wonder if anyone has looked at the detonation-based hypersonic propulsion aircraft that are capable of speeds mentioned in that video I posted and has the shape of one of those objects it said it couldn’t identify back then. Or chinas new oblique propulsion system (capable of air and space)
Even if companies are prototyping stuff though and it’s not production where they are trying to land funding or contracts it will be hard to know what they have behind closed doors
steel kayak
Wonder if anyone has looked at the detonation-based hypersonic propulsion aircra...
as far I am aware there are no such aircraft and so we have no idea how fast they would be capable of
lime perch
Probably no aircraft yet except for the test dummy ones if there are any to test the motors
https://scitechdaily.com/new-propulsion-system-could-enable-flying-at-speeds-up-to-mach-17/ but I was also looking at the picture from this
https://dsiac.dtic.mil/articles/ucf-researchers-develop-groundbreaking-new-rocket-propulsion-system/
Not everyone can make stuff go that fast and work so that’s where I’m starting. Looking at the tech explained in stuff. Rare is rare, rare is also less noise.
Some people search “ufo sightings” but tons to sift through. But how many “13,000mph propulsions systems” are there?
steel kayak
a far simpler explanation than shcramjet tech that countries all over the world have been trying to develop for decades already existing but for some unknown reason they seem embarrassed to announce, is that nothing was going that speed and the videos are in some way misleading. I recall that weather balloon off Yemen that was hit by a hellfire missile was speculated to be moving at extraordinary speeds because nobody who wanted it to be extraterrestrial seems to understand parallax quite frankly
lime perch
There’s a few different styles of motors that are being tried. The biggest problem they might have is the motor can go that fast but whatever the motor is in can’t handle it. I’m not an engineer though just a nerd 😂
steel kayak
The study presents a new type of detonation engine called the Ram-Rotor Detonation Engine (RRDE), [...] The feasibility and performance of RRDE are discussed through theoretical analysis and numerical simulations.
as I said, they have not announced this tech works because it is theoretical, it does not exist
lime perch
More type of technology people try in motors the more prototypes. More prototypes is more test flights. More test flights is more UAP sightings. They need to hand over better data to the public lol
steel kayak
no, if this tech has been tested we have no evidence for it. this is an OSINT server, usually they like to see intelligence not evidenceless speculation. if you have proof they're testing theoretical hypersonic engines that would be fascinating, otherwise it's simply wild speculation to say unidentified objects on videos are top secret test flights of this tech
again, several videos of UFOs now appear to show hypersonic objects but really it's parallax, the object is deceptively close to the camera and far from the background, and the camera is moving in the opposite direction as the object
it is a far simpler and less conspiratorial explanation to propose the videos are deceptive of the movement of UFOs than to speculate the UFOs are theoretical hypersonic jet tech
lime perch
Bro probably not a lot of this stuff will technically “exist” outside of prototypes and testing in secret. If it were done and commercially available some of this might be solved
X
Kinda shaped like that one that was flying over that navy ship in that video I had posted they says they didn’t know what it was. But with that test wind tunnel they don’t even need to make prototypes or expose to the public which is pretty wild. https://sacyr.com/-/el-tunel-de-viento-hipersonico-mas-rapido-del-mundo there’s probably tons of things that exist just never seen or finished
There’s a video in that stating how going that fast makes things too hot and molecules fall apart. So maybe I wasn’t too far off with that idea of why it’s hard to produce everything outside the motor
lime perch
no, if this tech has been tested we have no evidence for it. this is an OSINT se...
How are you supposed to investigate something you have never seen nor given details about unless you speculate ways to go about it? Because if companies use wind test tunnels that would tell me that some companies might have more safe practice methods so maybe to narrow the search further to see if there are who are more bold in their test methods that might align with making that kind of technology and might be close to where there were sightings. But if I didn't speculate that based on previous information found I could have lost a path in the investigation that could lead somewhere or be stuck at a dead end. I don't think you should use speculation in final stuff and am against that but this isn't my server, they might agree to an extent but idk I think creativity is a good thing so long as used responsibly. I've met more people who didn't know a path to take in an investigation leaving them stone walled vs people who thought of all possible points they could pivot off of.
I think I have an idea though. I am going to scrape all the places that make this kind of technology, the images of tech they have created, then scrape the images from sightings and run them against a VLM to extract any text or markings on the craft. Geolocate the companies and sightings to cross reference on a map to maybe visualize better
lime perch
lime perch
Running a couple test runs using different options to gauge speed differences. Then I will donate to Bellingcat if they want it for poeple to use or expand on to investigate UAP
modest isle
I am struggling to see how this is open source intelligence. A collection of photos with no context is as superficial as a google image search. Why, exactly, should anyone on this server care about this collection of photos?
lime perch
If no one really knows what one looks like might be good to see what you might be looking for when reading descriptions of what people are describing. Just a collection someone made figured it would be good resource of linking what people are saying to what it might look like.
modest isle
You can understand why that's not a compelling reason to look at them, right?
lime perch
I can remove it that's no problem. Done. I apologize.
modest isle
To be clear, it's not the share that I'm worried about - it's the rationale. I know from experience that there is a lot of stuff out there that could be shared. If you're emotionally invested in the topic it can be easy to see every datapoint as relevant to what you are hoping to prove. The (humble) request is the self-examination about what someone who is not emotionally invested would consider interesting.
lime perch
To be clear, it's not the share that I'm worried about - it's the rationale. I k...
Just came across it when scraping with the tool I mentioned above. As I mentioned thought some might want to see first account photos (or supposed) to visualize what was said in text about that instances other places. Quite frankly if no one really knows what one looks like idk how people will know if they found one lol
That's what sparked my interest in it. If no one really knows what one looks like how could you find one and know you found one
Plus I actually believe in ufos so I am investigating against my own bias for added fun
modest isle
It's probably the 'knowing' part that I'm struggling with, which in full disclosure, is probably something I spend a lot of time thinking about in general.
lime perch
It's probably the 'knowing' part that I'm struggling with, which in full disclos...
I'm not like full on aliens are coming ufo believer I've just always wondered what could be out there. Is there really a reason some ancient carvings depict space men? Is there a relationship to religion because of the stories of gods on chariots coming down from the sky? I like to stay open minded and question everything and anything. So even if I did find out the answer I wouldn't stop wondering even deeper into it.
modest isle
I apologize in advance if you consider this a slight, I promise it's not intended as one.
That has a lot of similarities to someone relying on religion to find truth/goodness/morality/meaning. With religion you have to accept that there are things that are unknowable but the will of your belief will manifest truth on the subject. That's perfectly normal, humans have done that for centuries. It's just, objectively, something that is hard to share with others who aren't already in a position to believe what you're saying.
lime perch
You're fine. I don't take it as one. But no it is not driven from religious beliefs. But what's your opinion on what you think everyone is looking for? You might hold the key answer to the whole puzzle. Gov project? Another country? Private owned? Out of this world?
modest isle
Humans seek explanations for their existence. Why be this rational being in a world that is, itself, irrational? To be able to anchor on something that feels like a foundation is extremely comforting and, again, that's not a bad thing.
Extraterrestrial life would be great if you see the problems of your existence as purely terrestrial. Otherworldly beings may have answers for the problems that you can't solve in this existence. If you only had the chance to talk to them you might get the answers that have plagued your existence.
lime perch
Humans seek explanations for their existence. Why be this rational being in a wo...
Have you ever watched that show Ancient Aliens or something like that on the history channel? I started watching it recently after seeing it on netflix, I don't agree with all their perspectives but some we share and others they have seems like something to explore more. But I watch stuff I don't like all the time just to gain people various perspectives on stuff.
modest isle
That's a good approach, definitely. It helps loop back to the beginning of this exchange, interestingly enough. It's important to look at what you share through someone else's eyes. Would something be interesting independent of your own worldview? Is what you're sharing something that could convince a skeptic that you have new and important intelligence to share?
lime perch
I think me talking about how I got into that would break some server rules so I can leave that story for another time perhaps lol. But I will say when you are trying to find people it's good to know how they might think to know where to go in a sense. Being skeptical is part of human nature unless everyone likes running blindly into a fire without questioning.
lapis galleon
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jade moss
well that's unexpected, guess he really doesn't want to talk about the Epstein files ... https://x.com/i/status/2024654469745480105
X
signal zinc
Excited hopefully the ufo files are as organized as that Epstein website
fallow compass
jaunty mist
https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DU9vc19EZrB
The article the screenshot is from: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/jul/25/seth-meyers-trump-epstein
thick jetty
The article the screenshot is from: <https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/ju...
Thank you for doing the work and looking it up. 👍
tall raft
https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DU9vc19EZrB
Correlation doesn't imply causation.
wooden mountain
I do think the reason Trump is doing this is because he can't stand Obama getting any attention
He saw Obama was on the news talking about aliens, so he thought "No, that can't be, I wanna talk about aliens now"
kind ginkgo
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-claims-obama-revealed-classified-informat...
Isn't the reason to change the news narrative away from the Epstein Class.
wooden mountain
That's what people think but we don't know
tall raft
The goal of this forum is to leverage our OSINT skills, tools and brain power into a working group dedicated to UAP/UFO research, balancing open-minded creativity, critical thinking, and scientific methodology (i.e. 3AF/SIGMA2) with the same diligence as war-humanitarian topics.
See for reference and inspiration:
https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link.php?doc_id=5109&fg=1
The internet is full of spaced to discuss if UFOs are real or not. The questions we are trying to solve here is not if they exist, or if it is just a big consipiration / psy-ops, but rather gather information on what they are.
If you are here in denial of the reality of the phenomenon and need a stronger signal than a message from the US president to bring your attention to the matter, I can redirect you to many reddit forums full of lively conversations in this direction.
For those wanting to contribute to the topic with their skills rather than beliefs, we welcome research suggestions, methods or initiatives.
lapis galleon
Excited hopefully the ufo files are as organized as that Epstein website
The files are out there since forever, this is not about having the data more than making people understand what and how and or who if its the best theory we're dealing with here then its a damn good one.
Kevin Knuth, univeristy of albany, UAlbany project x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWui5cBkwoE
wooden mountain
I'm sorry, but: what?
What's any of that supposed to mean?
Unless you can explain it in plain language and explain why its relevant to this thread specifically, I'm going to have to delete it
steel kayak
as far I can tell (makes my brain bleed to read) it is a paper purporting to show the equations describing waves with a quadratic dispersion are equivalent to equations describing the hydrogen atom's energy spectrum, which as the abstract states "highlights dispersion's role in bridging a hydrodynamic description to quantumlike spectral structure"
I am totally unclear how it could relate to UFOs
lapis galleon
Not sure what the hydrogen was about but seeing where this discussion is taking us hydrogen would be prevalent due to being the abundant atom and the one with the highest charge chirality which in terms of energy and or propulsion is interesting.
wooden mountain
Ok, yeah that's way outside the scope of this thread
lapis galleon
Ok, yeah that's way outside the scope of this thread
Even though a branch of physics would be included in disclosure?
wooden mountain
Yes
lapis galleon
suggest you change the name to nuts and bolts then
wooden mountain
Well, we're probably going to shut down the thread
This is an open source research server, and the whole idea of this space is for people to share verified/verifiable information realted to news events
We started this thread a long time ago as a bit of an experiment to see if it'd work, and I think its run its course
lapis galleon
nothing else has been done in any strech of our civilization
wooden mountain
Sure, be that as it may, this is 100% outside the scope of this server
thick jetty
Even though a branch of physics would be included in disclosure?
Look at it this way: I could walk and cross the street in a place where I'm not allowed to. It is up to the policeman to provide evidence that I did.
This thread was started to collect that evidence, if there was any. I think you are talking about the first part (?), but that is not a part of the scope of this thread.
lapis galleon
Yea well metaphors are good for reality we have everything else.
If its not gonna be a subject matter ill show myself out just make sure you can explain the entropy.
wooden mountain
Thanks -- yeah, this isn't a UFOlogy server. I'm locking the thread in about 5 minutes.
Hi all, we're locking this thread.
When the thread started in 2023, we allowed it because we hoped it'd be a place where people would share news about UFO sightings, and then use open source research methods to try to verify/debunk them.
Unfortunately what's happened over time is that it's instead become a place where people speculate about the existence of UFOs based on personal opinions and non-open source data. In other words, its become a space for people to fantasize about the existence of aliens.
For that reason, we're locking the thread and will not re-open it.