2023_summer

[dense tinsel]

from a different guy

[fresh temple]

guys can someone help me with my code

I'm getting some valgrind errors

for (int i = 0; i < 200000000; i++) {
assert(malloc(2000000000) != NULL);
}

[sinful locust]

too many zeroes i think

for (int i = 0; i < 20000000; i++) {
  for (int j = 0; j < 10; j++) {
                assert(malloc(200000000) != NULL);
  }
}

this should work

[crude light]

need some inputs on which offer is better...SWE at Msft, SDE at Amzn, or APM at google

[sinful locust]

msft

apm and swe are very different roles tho what do u want

[crude light]

say less, already committed to that tbh...i was just considering the other two since they came after the msft one

[sinful locust]

sweet. congrats btw

[fresh temple]

ok i fixed malloc now here is new problem:

while(true) {
fork();
}

[fresh temple]

what is your end goal? PM or SWE? do you like amazon culture (hardcore) or more laid back? What teams are you on at both places? do you want return offer or just resume value?

[crude light]

return offer forsure and laid back

I tried pm just to explore it tbh...didnt know I'd end up at google lmfao

[fresh temple]

then MSFT

tc bit lower but very chill

but work may be boring / might learn less

i'd take it over amazon pip tho

[spice jetty]

im particularly between swe at microsoft bc microsoft is stepping it up and apm at google is promising however because there are so many damn teams, a strong pm community, and i’ve been sold on the flexibility in terms of ur second year placement for full time you can go anywhere in the world lmao and its kind of cool

i think you could always go back to pm if u wanted to

microsoft swe is better bc you would be a stronger pm w dev experience

[fresh temple]

Let’s gamble, try merging!

[granite fulcrum]

I GOT SPOTIFY INTERVIEW

[sinful locust]

wow

[hallow scroll]

gl king the interviews are hella easy

its just really competitive even in the process, seems like they resume review multiple times and micro compare your performance to other canidates

[sinful locust]

C lol

segmentation fault (core dumped)

[fresh temple]

Valgrind bruh

Or debug_malloc

You can have a macro for that

Helps you trace down mem leak

[sinful locust]

woah

thank youuu 😭 🙏

[fresh temple]

I can’t find the video but there are ways to set it up to track down mem leaks

Would be more useful in big projects

For school projects just valgrind and use whatever flags

[earnest hatch]

It's President's Day, so maybe they call you back tomorrow

[next blaze]

any good resources to prac shell scripting and review linux stuff?
got an interview coming up for an infra position and they ask stuff bout linux

[earnest hatch]

Bro, let me be ignorant of this

[earnest hatch]

If it had "Intern conversion" then it was a position made to convert former interns, can't hurt applying but don't expect anything

[crisp berry]

is meta done now

[earnest hatch]

Always was

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[woven loom]

forever?

[hollow grove]

Anyone here done the amazon SDE intern OA recently?

[hollow grove]

please dm me if yes

[thorn quartz]

becky blank died why cant we have the day off

[astral dew]

What’s special about today?

[sinful locust]

Presidents ?

[earnest hatch]

Is his team hiring interns?

[safe minnow]

[sinful locust]

Is it proper etiquette to thank my recruiter and suck em off everytime I make it to the next round? lmao

[hallow scroll]

yes

[fresh temple]

I only thank recruiter if I talked to them, otherwise I thank after final rd

If it's like phone screen or before that, I usually just book a time and that's all I do

[versed kestrel]

no need to, they're just fulfilling their kpi

its just all lies and games, nbd rlly care

[sinful locust]

Gotcha thanks everyone 🙏

[fast folio]

i just say thank u looking forward to the next interview

or if i need smth longer i say "Thanks for reaching out. really enjoyed talking with ....... Looking forward to the next interview."

[safe minnow]

I highly recommend another brief problem set for Citadel, lmk if you want to take a look at it

https://r.mtdv.me/citadelsweintern

Do you think you would have gotten tricked if I picked trapping rain water instead

Dammnit

[astral dew]

Oh shit it is Presidents Day

https://tenor.com/view/george-washington-gif-13524277

[sinful locust]

I didnt think people actually got off for that but it was my only guess lol

[astral dew]

I mean my schools never did that’s why I was confused on what was special about today lol, ig it just depends

[crisp berry]

cant believe jimmy carter didnt die on presidents day

[stable spire]

i thought for every point find like the left/right condition(not giving problem away) which is o(n) query but u can cache with space to make that query o(1)

and then o(1) space is like weirdly satisfying

its like taking advantage of min(number, number + x) is always number

neetcode explained it really well

yes the ||TP|| approach is what i mena

lemme check the recurrence again its so weird for o(1) space

yep basically ur finding the || minimum of the maxes||

[sharp sedge]

also think about it as at each point along the array what are u looking for

[stable spire]

the leetcode weekly is nice this week

[sharp sedge]

what wekly

[stable spire]

basically fb/dropbox tagged find max islands if u can flip 1 0 to a 1 but a different technique

https://leetcode.com/problems/number-of-islands-ii/description/

[sharp sedge]

thats premium only

[stable spire]

yea thats leetcode weekly

[sharp sedge]

num of islands 2?

[stable spire]

yea

lintcode is free

no wait wrong one

[sharp sedge]

yeah

https://www.lintcode.com/problem/434/?_from=collection&fromId=207

[sinful locust]

gib intern

[stable spire]

https://evanyang.gitbooks.io/leetcode/content/LeetCode/number_of_islands_ii.html

[sharp sedge]

question seems really simple i think

[stable spire]

i got the technique, spent some time figuring out how to find the result of every query tho

[sharp sedge]

|| if the newly added point has no adjacent 1s at any side, just increment iland counter ??||

or is this wrong

[stable spire]

naw

[sharp sedge]

why not

lol

[stable spire]

what if ur grid is like [1, 0, 1] which is 2 islands

then middle 1 is 1 then u have 1 island

[sharp sedge]

true

it shrinks

i didnt consider that

kk this seems kind of slow but

|| if no adjacent 1s we incrmenet
if there are adjacent 1s, we either stay same or decrement, so we dfs/bfs from the adjacent 1s, and see how many of the others it reaches, and based on that, decrement by up to 3 or stay the same||

actually idk tho

cuz if its like

[0,1,0]
[1,0,1]
[0,1,0]

and querying the center 0

would be really annoying

cuz it could go from 4 islands to 1

it would be slow

[stable spire]

thats a brute force yes

[sharp sedge]

cuz would check if each adjacent 1 can reach the other adjancent 1s

[stable spire]

the query to do this is N^2 every time u add an island

[sharp sedge]

so up to worst case 4 dfs per query

[stable spire]

naw u just need 1 DFS per query for brute force

since every time u add 1 land, u add it and then u do number of islands which is 1 DFS

[sharp sedge]

err yeah

per query num islands would be o(n) per query right

but that seems stupid to do lol

just check whole board per update

must be a better way

is that it

cuz idk it at all

maybe why idk optimal solve for this lol

same

u think cit asks union find

[muted summit]

ik how union find works but i cant code it up LMAO

[tulip aspen]

poo face

im beefing with you now destroyer

we will be fighting

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

[muted summit]

can u code up union find off the dome?? mr. bobo

dont make me sneak up behind u and slap u in the face

im comin...

[tulip aspen]

CHILL DESTROYER

CHILLLL STOP INSTIGATING

[muted summit]

time to memorize the template

bobo is a step

he's guaranteed

not like us

😔

yeah imma see him today

but too bad im shorter than him

we don't talk about that

im just shorter

🙂

[tulip aspen]

6'2"

[muted summit]

another good one https://leetcode.com/problems/number-of-good-paths/

[tulip aspen]

i am built like a greek god

tell all ur female friends

[sharp sedge]

i want knight soon

but i never do the contests

cuz saturday night at 8:30

bruh

like 99% of the time im gonna go out so i cant do that

and then the morning one i can never wake up that early after a friday night out

so its just ggs

they should do like mondays or smth

can someone send me some good leetcode questoins to do rn

that arent union find

or suuuper hard

too complex

i aint readin thtat whole ass doc

[muted summit]

same i tried doing this with dfs i think

and its tle

bc thats the bruteforce for this question lmao

yeah the stack is always in increase/decreasing order

and it pops elements based on what ur if condition is

binary search here

[stable spire]

they did for OA but i think DFS worked

[sharp sedge]

i have cit phone next week so wondering

[bleak storm]

may I ask how did come across these concepts/algos?

[safe minnow]

I am so confused reading this statement

Is the professor encouraging cheating or not

[astral dew]

And then if u get caught say “So what”

[azure wave]

has anyone done an internship at wells fargo?

[dense jungle]

has anyone heard back from meta uni? i applied like a month ago and haven't heard anything :((

[hallow scroll]

some people got offers already, i wouldnt hold it against yourself seems like they had a high bar

[fluid escarp]

if I already have summer 2023 internship ready, is it considered bad to immediately apply to fall 2023 internships

[dense jungle]

damn i only finished one question in the oa was literally holding onto hope :(( how high was the bar this year??

[hallow scroll]

no just add incoming to your resume

[hallow scroll]

no clue, but just not a lot of spots compared to last year

[fluid escarp]

oh interesting, I was applying without it on my resume since I didnt wanna like use a job I havent worked at yet as a resume point

[safe minnow]

Tbh this worries me

[dense jungle]

damn.....i rlly got ghosted by all my internships

[safe minnow]

I'm not sure how much of a diff incoming and being there already is

The biggest L is I can't talk about what I did there if I apply early, but if I don't apply early, I might get fucked by the season's fast pace

[hallow scroll]

helped me a lot last year

i heard back from like every company for fall when I applied with incoming

same with winter 2023

[fluid escarp]

How did you add incoming

just no bullet points with stuff?

[hallow scroll]

yes

[safe minnow]

I guess all they care about is name? It just seems kinda weird to me

[hallow scroll]

it is weird but surprisingly yes it does help, it also is helpful for click baiting in cold emails

[safe minnow]

Nah I could def see why it would help

But it's like

How much % of the value of the internship do you have with just the "incoming" part

50%? 80%? 95%?

[hallow scroll]

better then 0%

doesnt hurt worst case scenario

[safe minnow]

Of course it's better to have it than not

[fluid escarp]

I think its more of a signal to the other person that you are competent enough to get an internship

[hallow scroll]

yeah

[safe minnow]

But the scenario I'm comparing is applying early (with just incoming) or applying once you've been there for a while (but risk being too late to some companies)

[dense jungle]

so like...how important is getting an internship freshman year? bc i'm thinking of j going home for the summer and doing a small project or two instead :((

[hallow scroll]

id say its better to apply when you can since when you actually start the incoming role it would probably be too late to apply

especially since offseason spots are incredibly limited

applying when it opens is the best way to maximize your chance

[safe minnow]

For fall yeah, I'm mainly thinking about winter/spring rn

[hallow scroll]

for winter/spring they mostly open in july

you should be able to write some bullets on your summer internship since you'll be working there

[safe minnow]

Yeah

🤔

[hallow scroll]

it helps, but since its your first year you have a lot of time to land something

[dull helm]

I just had one bullet point saying Incoming as a X intern for the Y team for Z period/semester

[hallow scroll]

as long as you spend the summer improving your chances for next year, its all good

[hardy patrol]

https://leetcode.com/problems/validate-binary-search-tree/ did anybody solve this without watching the nc vid on first try

[safe minnow]

First try?

[hardy patrol]

noticing the implementation is easy but the conceptualization is retarded

like damn id never guess you'd have to do some of these algos

[safe minnow]

Isn’t it just recursion

Oh wait

Also yes

[hardy patrol]

dfs but you have to set up these upper/lower bounds

[safe minnow]

Yeah

[hardy patrol]

everyone here an ace detective at lc damn

[hallow scroll]

drawing out recursion/tree problems help a lot, id try that. A lot of tree recursion meds are just template dfs but add a twist to it relative to the problem

[safe minnow]

No I think name makes up like 70% of it

But I also know my current exp is dogshit

And I need to be able to talk about more relevant stuff

13 miles?

Without risk of injury? 2-3 months if you have good genetics

[cyan garnet]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1077389088954536058 if anyone wants to roast a high schooler's resume

[safe minnow]

3 months is reasonable as long as you have decent running genetics

But like you gotta go longer each day/week

It’s really tough on the mind too

[fresh temple]

gigachad

[echo coral]

can't you just do an in-order traversal, make sure the result is sorted

[fresh temple]

I guess if you use a stack/iterative

otherwise the recursive way is basically the same as a dfs

[river ravine]

did everyone hear back yet

[granite fulcrum]

my spotify recruiter is from sweden but the position says US

what does that mean

[safe minnow]

They're gonna grill your in Swedish and if you can't pass then you get banned from spotify

[ionic light]

no need for ceil and floor. You can do inorder traversal. (you can avoid using flag too)

class Solution:
    def isValidBST(self, root: Optional[TreeNode]) -> bool:
        def dfs(root):
            nonlocal prev, flag
            if root.left:
                dfs(root.left)
            flag = flag and root.val > prev
            prev = root.val
            if root.right:
                dfs(root.right)
                
        prev = -inf
        flag = True
        dfs(root)
        return flag

[muted summit]

both are good solutions, the other way is if you don't use global variables

[ionic light]

If sorting is okay with interviewer, even easier:

class Solution:
    def isValidBST(self, root: Optional[TreeNode]) -> bool:
        def dfs(root):
            if root.left:
                dfs(root.left)
            tree.append(root.val)
            if root.right:
                dfs(root.right)
                
        tree = []
        dfs(root)
        return len(set(tree)) == len(tree) and tree == sorted(tree)

[muted summit]

this isn't optimal at all though

[ionic light]

Yeah but beautiful code

[muted summit]

Im gonna have to disagree

[ionic light]

Solution to check if a tree is a BST

lol no I would not do that in interview, but I like it more in terms of clean code

You can actually avoid sorting and check if array is sorted if you wanted to. Still O(N) space tho

[muted summit]

yeah i get that but for me I don't think lesser lines is necessarily cleaner in this case

[ionic light]

Yeah that's fair

[hallow scroll]

cuz spotify hq is in sweden

my interviewer interviewed me from stockholm

[mystic depot]

@honest spire after all this time guess who got the Amazon final

[sharp sedge]

i was thinking of signing up for marathon for next year and doing with 0 prep

rhe last time i ever ran was 3 yes ago senior year did a 5k and my legs were fucked

im very bad at endurance cuz im a power athlete

but want to prove to friends i can marathon without temrainibg

[wise island]

bruh ive spent 2 weeks trying to book an interview with this company

why are so many recruiters so dead

[muted summit]

good sign for return offers too

[twilit jacinth]

time apple

[muted summit]

how to get into apple

[twilit jacinth]

walk into tim apples office

get job

[muted summit]

i remember messaging ding like right when i joined for c1 and linkedin back at the start of the season

[twilit jacinth]

do u know if anyone is interning for the openconnect team? 👀

[safe minnow]

Without training? Yeah I still think it's doable if you only try to walk the entire gauntlet, running might be hell mode though

You goated too for being both supportive and cracked 💪

[spice jetty]

it is not 250k tc 😭 folks that did break 200k were saying this summer that they were lucky 😭

typically it is 180k after negotiation

check the avg return spreadsheet in the intern server 😭

oh yea

those bitches break ict3

normally

[safe minnow]

Wait what org are you

[hallow scroll]

probably something in ai

[safe minnow]

Yeah prob

[fresh temple]

@golden sandal my friend from t30 is going to Netflix, there are normal smart ppl not just savants going to nflx

what are cmu scholars

or you mean just t8 cs

the t30 experience

your peers are just MIT, CMU, Stanford kids

[sinful locust]

what are they like

[fresh temple]

normal ppl

I don't mind though, building your network with hella smart people

would be nice to go to cmu or some shit tho

[sinful locust]

pretty solid networking opportunity yeah

but its a lot more than that too haha, assuming you are the Netflix pbjpie

[fresh temple]

what mean

[sinful locust]

oh when I say "its a solid networking opportunity" it sounds like im talking about some dinner rather than a netflix internship lol

[fresh temple]

oh yeah I mean you're basically meeting some of the sharpest CS kids in the country

netflix is probably among the most selective companies

besides quant firms and I guess super selective unicorns

@tulip aspen @sinful locust@honest spire @sinful locust

4 of u tbh

[hallow scroll]

aack was fall 22 intern p sure

so i think he just got return intern but i thought his linkedin said he was going to roblox

[sinful locust]

netflix pbj is a server booster 🤨

[hallow scroll]

idk

hi aack

where u going

[sinful locust]

How do you have my LinkedIn 🤨

[hallow scroll]

cuz u added me

[sinful locust]

Oh

How did you know that’s me

🤨

[hallow scroll]

because ik you go to same school as vexor

[sinful locust]

🧐

Roblox summer google fall

[hallow scroll]

W

[sinful locust]

It’s a return offer

I did a super late summer start date

It’s pretty much fall

[safe minnow]

[silent inlet]

@ripe bronze just curious what org you are at for Apple and what your intern pay is?

[tulip aspen]

i am the real pbjpie

[earnest hatch]

@honest spire It's March soon, April 30 is the last day for Amazon internship recruiting right?

Probably early April, since Handshake is showing end date as 4/1 - 4/3 for some of their other listings

[tawny dust]

I still can’t get used to the feeling before interviews

[versed kestrel]

anyone here gotten sig disco day?

it said filled on their website

dyk if it's rolling

[muted summit]

losing faith by the day 😭

[versed kestrel]

i mean like get the offer

[hallow scroll]

probably rolling since ik theres not a lot of spots for it

dmtri did u do the phone call with recruiter

[versed kestrel]

i did

[hallow scroll]

even just doing the phone call expedites the process and guarantees an interview

[versed kestrel]

she said I should hear back around the end of feb

[hallow scroll]

i applied last year but didnt get offer, i still got skipped to technical for summer 23 tho

i am not sig simp, this was last year

[versed kestrel]

nice, did u get sig?

👀

[hallow scroll]

nop i cancelled the interview

[muted summit]

nah for google lol ive never applied to sig

[versed kestrel]

lol i will do it for the money 🤑

[muted summit]

is there anything specific happening on that day

or just a day you set

[hallow scroll]

for sure, i would've done it but i was just way too lazy to interview lol

[muted summit]

the day goog is dead is when i get amazon housing

in my bank account

i cant be asked to go through that refund shit tbh

[safe minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/wayne-bird-building-collapse-building-falls-gif-13351341

[hallow scroll]

amazon bros 😎

[versed kestrel]

how many is a few btw?

ye, how many of your friends got the offer

[safe minnow]

1 is indeed few

Was it fun

[hallow scroll]

20 sounds right for these types of events

[versed kestrel]

what did u have on ur resume back then, if u dont mind 👀

[safe minnow]

Oh pog

👁️

Oh shit

[fresh temple]

how much they paying swe

or same as QT?

[safe minnow]

Nah I think it was 100/hr?

Oh

[fresh temple]

god damn

finna get a referral to SIG next year

[safe minnow]

More than jump

[fresh temple]

what was the interview process like?

@blazing forum

any systems / os / networks / trivia

[hallow scroll]

isnt it like pure lc and ood

[safe minnow]

Bonus as in housing or is there a separate sign on bonus?

Ah ok

Sheesh

[fresh temple]

sheebar

FT rate is what, 300kish?

[versed kestrel]

sheesh, @hallow scroll u r reallymissing out

[fresh temple]

higher lower

LMAO

L bozo

QT is 400k

pain

[safe minnow]

It’s almost like c1 but for quant I think

[fresh temple]

not bad

[fresh temple]

LMALFJA:LKSJF:LDSAKJ:FLSKDJF good analogy

[hallow scroll]

nah lol idrc about quant its not where I plan to end up at

[safe minnow]

Well it’s not great

[muted summit]

anywhere from 30-90 days before the start date LOL

[fresh temple]

dawg 270k ain't great for quant firm but is way more than almost any tech

[granite fulcrum]

Did anyone else get Spotify

[safe minnow]

No I’m saying the analogy isn’t great

Not the pay

[hallow scroll]

ok but now you gotta live in philladelphia

yea

[fresh temple]

LCOL is dub

[safe minnow]

Get scouted by recruiter

[granite fulcrum]

Chicago COL also pretty low though

[muted summit]

yeah we'll see if i get matched tho lmaoo

[versed kestrel]

so citadel is the dream then

[safe minnow]

Is it around the same as Urbana rn? Or a touch higher

[granite fulcrum]

Citadel moving to Miami

[muted summit]

currently only guaranteed interns and MS/PHD are getting matched

very very few non guaranteed

one dude who did step and swe got matched

probably bc he did 2x google

[safe minnow]

Isn’t step guaranteed

[granite fulcrum]

Better than NY and shit where u pay 40% of income to taxes

[safe minnow]

💀

[muted summit]

ive only had 1 internship so idk what my chances are

[hallow scroll]

this

[muted summit]

thanks

im cool with zon tho fr

not copium

[hallow scroll]

its not even cope i personally just dont find the appeal in the work and big tech money is more then enough for me lol

[safe minnow]

For cit?

[muted summit]

no for goog

[safe minnow]

Ah

[muted summit]

me at cit?

[safe minnow]

You’re also matching

[muted summit]

im regular amazon

bro my gpa isnt 3.6 HAHAHA

[hallow scroll]

i was expecting to make 70k out of college when I first started

[granite fulcrum]

Tech only worth going to if in big city imo

[fresh temple]

idk about big cities but yeah comp needs to be much higher due to worse exit opps, no equity upside, and WLB

[gentle latch]

Juster and I will be working here

[fresh temple]

but like if JS says "come here we'll pay you 450K"

[muted summit]

does 2 sigma have a gpa requirement

[fresh temple]

I'm not saying no

[devout jewel]

What about me

[fresh temple]

only if ur not sigma

[devout jewel]

nah

[safe minnow]

The people who live in champaign for the rest of their lives working in tech 🤔

[muted summit]

i might have a chance with them then

[hallow scroll]

valid

[granite fulcrum]

fbck Champaign

such a crappy place

[safe minnow]

💀

[hallow scroll]

NEED GOOGLE OR LINKEDIN FALL

[muted summit]

you're ML at zon right

might be data cleaning too

[fresh temple]

when is linkedin posting fall

[gentle latch]

JOIN US

[hallow scroll]

if linkedin has me on cooldown im going to riot I got did so dirty

[versed kestrel]

does linkedin allow pushing?

[muted summit]

im playin i just heard a lot of ml is just a bunch of data shit

[safe minnow]

MLE?

[hallow scroll]

probs may or june

[gentle latch]

Like may/kune

[muted summit]

linkedin fall??? what is it gonna be

12 spots this time?

[hallow scroll]

[safe minnow]

Yeah this can be a lot of things I think

[muted summit]

i got passed linkedin with 1 internship for winter

[hallow scroll]

me and my 11 other personalities gonna fill headcount 💯

[muted summit]

surely i hear back next time

[fresh temple]

12 spots for 3000 sweats on cscd

no problem

[granite fulcrum]

Does LinkedIn let you remote?

[muted summit]

plus a ton more unknown sweats who aren't in cscd

[hallow scroll]

nop

[granite fulcrum]

imo LinkedIn tech stacks sucks

[safe minnow]

I wouldn't be suprised if 10/12 of the linkedin people are gonna be from here

[fresh temple]

this sounds sick

what background do you have

[hallow scroll]

isnt it a java shop and some weird frontend shit

[granite fulcrum]

yeah exactly

[gentle latch]

I beat ya'll for 15 spots at twitter
I will beat yall for 12 spots at linkedin

[granite fulcrum]

react

[muted summit]

some guy here got linkedin ml

dwlrma

[hallow scroll]

i dont want to work at linekdin anymore

[granite fulcrum]

n#Nodejs

[muted summit]

he's doing it rn i wonder if he still checks the discord

[hallow scroll]

nah his acc is deleted

[muted summit]

wonder what happened 💀

[granite fulcrum]

Not worth unless remote IMO

[safe minnow]

The plus is it's a retirement home no?

[hallow scroll]

hes in G hm rn too bruh hes insane

[hallow scroll]

yes

[muted summit]

yeah he swapped form medical or some shit to CS

goog hm is gonna turn into a 2 year process

if all goes south im gonna just hope they give me a ng interview

shit has alr hit the fan tbh

[hallow scroll]

need return offer from my last internship so I can double remote internship this fall

[muted summit]

yea

[hallow scroll]

need quant money

[muted summit]

spring 24

i have 8 more classes after this semester

[crisp berry]

when will 2024_winter channel be added

[hallow scroll]

lucky i got like 13

[muted summit]

if you feel like it then go for it

since you'll have a few internships

[hallow scroll]

same

[muted summit]

fr linkedin takes like 5 years to respond

[hallow scroll]

recruiter got laid off and I didnt get a new one

[muted summit]

yep same

wait my recruiter didnt get laid off

she just took longer to get back to me

[hallow scroll]

and also i got phone for summer but then my second recruiter got laid off

[muted summit]

and no one who had my recruiter got an offer

compiler work 👀

[granite fulcrum]

You need referrals

referrals are king

[muted summit]

next thing you know it you're gonna be writing unit tests in another language that test the new language

💀

[fresh temple]

overemployed moment

[hallow scroll]

need it

graduate with 7 internships

[granite fulcrum]

Spotify first round is just leetcode right

[fresh temple]

I might just take two NG offers

[hallow scroll]

spotify all rounds is just leetcode

[fresh temple]

if I can get them to be both remote

[granite fulcrum]

Oh

[fresh temple]

Hub + Samsara

[granite fulcrum]

Someone said there was system design

[hallow scroll]

i had easies for first and second round

[granite fulcrum]

how many rounds are there

[hallow scroll]

like 5

💀

[twin sandal]

how many ppl get disco day

[granite fulcrum]

the fuck

[hallow scroll]

i only got to round 2 but I think its 3 phones and then an onsite

[versed kestrel]

million dollar question

[twin sandal]

ik someone that got wo

OA or interview

idk if thats normal

[versed kestrel]

well i got the interview, but haven't heard back yet

[twin sandal]

^ got confirmation this morning

[versed kestrel]

pls pls

[versed kestrel]

confirmation for the interview?

[twin sandal]

no

[versed kestrel]

I did it last month tho?

[twin sandal]

for the program

[versed kestrel]

oh the offer?

[twin sandal]

Congrats! You have been selected for SIG Discovery Day etc

[versed kestrel]

holy shit

[versed kestrel]

grats! who's ur recruiter btw ? mine is MM

[twin sandal]

idk my gf got it

[formal sage]

Cringe LinkedIn lies

[versed kestrel]

is she a soph or freshman? sorry for intergrating

[twin sandal]

i applied for her so she was like wtf is this when she got it 😆

freshman

[versed kestrel]

ahhh

maybe freshman is out, and soph is later

[versed kestrel]

cracked gf btw

big W

[twin sandal]

fr

hopefully, yea

praying for u

[untold rapids]

@twin sandal for trading or tech?

[ivory ocean]

Mmm

[river ravine]

yea im freshman disco day for sig too

[versed kestrel]

faang? good school? any of that?

or cp?

how do u even keep up with these kids ffs 😭

[safe minnow]

[versed kestrel]

alexandr wang got addepar in hs

[river ravine]

hypsm and did 2sigma and js programs previously

[earnest hatch]

What for, you got Amazon

[muted summit]

also got hrt freshman year bro is a beast

[versed kestrel]

don't everyone in mit get hrt freshman yr?

[safe minnow]

No they get rentech

[versed kestrel]

ppl in loo only get singlestore freshman yr

[safe minnow]

What's singlestore

[versed kestrel]

previously memsql

[safe minnow]

Ah

You're loo?

[muted summit]

i wonder what alexandr wangs opinion on school is

since he dropped out

[safe minnow]

Social time

[versed kestrel]

he did return for masters tho?

[safe minnow]

He had a lot of quora posts back then

[safe minnow]

When did this occur?

[muted summit]

nah he dropped out freshman year

and has been doing scale ai since

[muted summit]

oh yeah i saw that tweet

bro i aint gonna go digging and find it

but it was something like school doesnt teach you education or work skills but it is a great place to learn to socialize

[versed kestrel]

hmm i rmb in an interview he said he returned to take some masters level courses

i might be wrong

[muted summit]

i think he took those as a freshman before dropping out LMFAO

dude is built different

[hallow scroll]

mfs just be spawning into college as top 1% of the 1%

[muted summit]

even more honestly

[safe minnow]

If you're on that caliber it makes complete sense to say

[versed kestrel]

what for? there's nothing you will learn in school that you can't learn on your own

[safe minnow]

I did not understand what you just wrote

[versed kestrel]

like if you get a 400k ft offer, would you dropout? for sure

[hallow scroll]

dmtri you seem very TC orientated

[versed kestrel]

I just meant that school is not the best place for learning, you can learn all of that stuff on your own

[versed kestrel]

nah im just trolling

[safe minnow]

Yes, I am agreeing with that statement

[hallow scroll]

based

[versed kestrel]

lmao

[safe minnow]

Not when me and Tanz figure out how to reverse aging

[hallow scroll]

can i get reverse aging early access pls

[gloomy moon]

bruh my interviewer didn't show up 😐

[safe minnow]

We will revaluate this when you become a billionaire

[safe minnow]

What company

[gloomy moon]

Workday

[safe minnow]

Oh yeah Workday L interviewers

[gloomy moon]

smh

[sinful locust]

if they reschedule you they might give you an easy ass LC question

[gloomy moon]

i already did the technical

[sinful locust]

O

[gloomy moon]

this was for the behavioral or smth

[sinful locust]

Hope they get back to u 🙏

[gloomy moon]

I also have a midterm today so that was like a nice waste of an hour 🥲

[safe minnow]

💀

[golden pasture]

hi

[hardy patrol]

i loathe trees

[golden pasture]

the banner ☠️

[safe minnow]

Wait for Zon

[tulip aspen]

wtf alexandr was at hrt after dropping out

[fresh temple]

Gigachad

He was too good for HRT

Was like fuck this I’m underpaid

I’m gonna make a billion dollar company

Based af

[tulip aspen]

insanity

[hallow scroll]

hubspot recruiter called me from no caller id i almost went off thinking it was some random scammer

[safe minnow]

What if the hub was the scammer

[fresh temple]

Yeah unannounced phone call is weird

[safe minnow]

Is there ddosing but for phone numbers

[fresh temple]

I’ve picked up but

The first time I almost said some stupid shit bc I thought it was spam

[safe minnow]

What stage was this

[hallow scroll]

yeah same

[hallow scroll]

it wasn't completely unannounced I just forgot she was calling me today

[abstract hamlet]

anyone here with a quant internship for this summer freshman/sophomore

[earnest hatch]

Amazon still sending OAs/phone, while people are on waitlist

[fresh temple]

Uh use LinkedIn for this

[hallow scroll]

giving out new offers instead of giving their waitlisted interns offers lol

[abstract hamlet]

oh shi my bad

[safe minnow]

Gotcha

[fresh temple]

No I just don’t think there are many fresh / soph at quant

They exist but not here much

@winter heath maybe can chop in

[hallow scroll]

lmfao

anyone know how hard atlassian coding interview is

[real sedge]

Dm

I can supply

[hallow scroll]

bet

overemployed

[safe minnow]

How much you charging

[abstract hamlet]

jeezus i’m a freshman rn

[fresh temple]

Quant for junior year is more realistic

[abstract hamlet]

trying to aim for one next year

[fresh temple]

Any internship for freshman summer

Faang adjacent for soph

[abstract hamlet]

yea faang

[fresh temple]

Quant for junior

Oh shit

If you have faang as freshman you’re in good spot

[hallow scroll]

lol faang freshmen is good you'll get quant next year

[fresh temple]

For resume screen

Just need to pass interview

QT or SWE?

[stable spire]

https://tenor.com/view/running-dodging-under-attack-boom-explosion-gif-14239434

[abstract hamlet]

probably looking at swe

[stable spire]

ur fine with amz

just make sure to get on a cpp/py team

[hallow scroll]

💀

[abstract hamlet]

i think qt my math skills aren’t going to be there yet

[fresh temple]

LC, OOD, OS, sys design, networks

[stable spire]

wait u need to clarify ; are u going for swe, qt, qr?

[abstract hamlet]

swe

[fresh temple]

He said swe

[fresh temple]

Are you in quant or just have buddies there

[stable spire]

ok yea

[stable spire]

multiple onsites + have buddies there

[abstract hamlet]

i have been selected for a discovery day at sig and applied to more at the other firms

[fresh temple]

Cracked fucking freshman Jesus

[abstract hamlet]

hoping to make some connections through that and fastack interview for next summer

[versed kestrel]

what faang?

👀

[fresh temple]

Zon

[abstract hamlet]

rainforest

[stable spire]

clcik his goddamn profile

😭

[fresh temple]

Faang = zon

[versed kestrel]

lol

[fresh temple]

Otherwise it’d be “I have meta internship”

[stable spire]

naw its the worser company

[abstract hamlet]

LMAOOOO

[fresh temple]

Or Apple or anything t

[hallow scroll]

zon slander

[abstract hamlet]

pay is fucking rediculous

[stable spire]

zon is better than meta now

[tulip aspen]

cope

[abstract hamlet]

meta fell off

[stable spire]

every intern who met expectatipons got return intern offer at zon

[astral dew]

Crazy

[stable spire]

every intern at meta who did that got rejected

[gloomy moon]

is zon for fall open

[tulip aspen]

hmmm nvm i guess so

[hallow scroll]

ik people who used to shit on zon last year and are unemployed this year

[safe minnow]

Yeah

[gloomy moon]

o

[abstract hamlet]

i’m thinking of getting into ipcp might help with getting into quant

[muted summit]

zon sending out more return offers? 👀

[abstract hamlet]

but it’s such a big investment

[safe minnow]

It will but to get good at it typically takes more than one year

[astral dew]

Are u comparing company value on resume? Or just simply who gave returns lol?

[stable spire]

for new grad RO rates went from 60-70% to 5-10%
for intern RO rates went from 60-70% to 15-20%

meta has NOTING on zon

[astral dew]

Meta >> Zon resume value

[stable spire]

even company value its the same

[tulip aspen]

ohhh dang i didnt know that

[stable spire]

naw its the same

[tulip aspen]

rip meta

[tulip aspen]

yeah i agree with this tho

[abstract hamlet]

what would you guys recommend i can work on for the next 6 months that can do something substantial to help my resume for applying to quant next for summer

[astral dew]

Explain?

[real sedge]

Dm

[safe minnow]

[real sedge]

#quants-n-traders

[abstract hamlet]

ohh thankkksss

[stable spire]

both are well recognized big tech companies ; the consensus meta > zon in any other year other than this was bc of the 30-70k pay increase for meta

if ur talking during this recession easily amz > meta since u at least have a job

[fresh temple]

C++ projects, trading competitions and just self studying interview q

[muted summit]

yea i heard that too

asp just moves you to another team

[astral dew]

Ehh I was talking about engineering talent. Meta seems to have better engineers , looking from the outside of course.

Solid points tho

[stable spire]

are u ok

[astral dew]

Perfectly fine

[stable spire]

who do u think runs the core AWS servers

[astral dew]

Let me guess… adobe engineers?

[stable spire]

yep

[astral dew]

Prob right

[tulip aspen]

aws engineers

[stable spire]

EC2, RDS, Dynamo, Cassandra,

all have to be scaled and handle a shit ton of data

[hallow scroll]

"amazon hiring bar at the floor "

[tulip aspen]

me personally think aws and amazon are kinda together but not really

[hallow scroll]

ok this a little much

[stable spire]

Amazon has leetcode memorizers
Meta has leetcode memorizers but on a harder dificulty level

[hallow scroll]

good

[stable spire]

eng talent at both are good

[muted summit]

^

[stable spire]

this is coming from ex meta im not biased towards amazon*

[muted summit]

hard to say which one is "better" just depends on your individual case

[hallow scroll]

yea i feel like people generalize a lot, since they're known for "easier" interviews their talent is bad

[muted summit]

yeah definitely

[hallow scroll]

im sure theres tons of bad apples tho they do hire a lot

[abstract hamlet]

zon interviewers are sooo submissive

[muted summit]

when there are a million more factors

[safe minnow]

Wdym by that

[hallow scroll]

yea like jumpstart

[muted summit]

like ik people who did zon and i didnt do zon but i had a really good response rate this year for interviews, better than some people who ik that have zon

[abstract hamlet]

bro was stuttering asking the questions

[muted summit]

but i dont think that means my company is "better" resume wise

there's still a lot of luck involved its hard to really say

[abstract hamlet]

LMAOOO

[stable spire]

its only easier at intern and 30m 1x30 new grad levels

for experienced its usually the full 3-5 interview loop lc mediums/perhaps easies so its def normal interviews

[fresh temple]

He’s just scared uwu

[abstract hamlet]

like he was more nervous than me 💀

[hallow scroll]

yea this makes sense

[versed kestrel]

r u sure he's not an intern?

[tulip aspen]

oh tesla has interns do interviews and hire lol

[muted summit]

ive heard that LOL

[abstract hamlet]

no he was just a bottom

yooo whatttt

[hallow scroll]

reminds me of rippling

[abstract hamlet]

oh new grad

[hallow scroll]

mfs had me get interviewed by someone with 3 months out of college

i hope he gets laid off

[abstract hamlet]

LMAOOO

[safe minnow]

Ayo

I could get behind that

[muted summit]

if i was an interviewer id ask easy af questions

who cares

[hallow scroll]

based

[abstract hamlet]

nah fr i would let the most underqualifeies person in just cause why not

[tulip aspen]

probably gonna give them two sum 😎

[abstract hamlet]

give homie a chance

[muted summit]

exactly

gotta give the bro a chance and make their day

[versed kestrel]

until they're on ur team...

[safe minnow]

I would pull some shit like: "I am going to ask two sum. But there will be a follow up"

[tulip aspen]

then troll them and ask for the sorting approach

[hallow scroll]

give them an lc hard dp then say nah im just playing and copy paste two sum

[muted summit]

yeah if they are on my team its different

[astral dew]

Or they stop letting u interview lmao

[muted summit]

I'm gonna act all serious and shit

and then give them count evens in an array

[tulip aspen]

LMAOOO

[fresh temple]

Disqualified if you don’t use bit operations

[hallow scroll]

zon gave me twosum 2

[tulip aspen]

real

[abstract hamlet]

i had two sum too

[safe minnow]

“This question has never been solved by a past interviewee. Remove vowels in a string”

[fresh temple]

Nah fr tho I don’t like Amazon bc PIP culture the TC is good and Eng quality is good

[abstract hamlet]

two sum and sum of leaf nodes 💀

[fresh temple]

Bro I couldn’t reverse a LL

Had to sit down and draw it out

[abstract hamlet]

had me rolling when he gave me those

[obtuse timber]

still mad about my 2 hards

lmao

[muted summit]

tc and engineering quality matter a lot to me

[fresh temple]

Doesn’t mTter when you get PIP 3 months in

[muted summit]

we don't bring that up 💀

[astral dew]

Bro wtf

[astral dew]

That was my Uber final

For uberStar

I was sweating bullets until he brought at the question. Did it in like 10 mins lol

[hallow scroll]

what do you even do after finishing a coding question that fast during an interview

w

[fresh temple]

Yeah you literally just vibe

Maybe they have another one to ask you

[fresh temple]

Bro I wish I knew LC as a freshman

Imagine getting two sum on a final

I’d cry from@happiness

[astral dew]

The guy asked me reverse LL 2. Basically where do I know when the loop starts. So we just talked about solutions and talked more about Uber

[fresh temple]

bro LRU cache is not an easy medium

if you haven't seen it before gg

it's only ez bc you can memorize it

and just spit it out

if someone asked you to do that and you've never done it ur fucked

[safe minnow]

I really really like how JS did it

[fresh temple]

doubly linked list where elements of LL are pointers to hashmap?

[fresh temple]

yeah, they have a blog post about it

it's neat

[safe minnow]

Yep

That makes the most sense to me

Not memorize the LC solution

[static spindle]

this is what happened during my tiktok interview

also why I solve the problem at least once before every one of my tech interviews lol

[fresh temple]

speaking of

i should go back and recode lru cache from scratch

[versed kestrel]

u mean using a clock?

[winter heath]

Way more sophomores than you’d think

[fresh temple]

no, clock is approximation, I meant just do it again without looking at solution

[fresh temple]

he just wants advice on what to do to break into quant for next year

SWE @ quant specifically

[winter heath]

Hardest part is passing the resume screen so I recommend cold emailing

But if you’re cracked you can generally avoid needing to (I needed to cold email)

[bleak storm]

my man you are cracked already 🙂

but i agree cold email doesn’t hurt, i landed js interview through cold email lol

[fresh temple]

I think faang name will pass resume

if you don't have t20

but you have incoming at netflix shush

just throw that on there

selective through interviews, not so much resume screen if you have t20 + netflix

[astral dew]

I’m 2x faang+ and js auto rejects me every time

[fresh temple]

are you sohp

that's kinda fucked

[astral dew]

Jr now.

[fresh temple]

my friend has t30 no faang (just good internships) got past resume screen

[winter heath]

Yeah JS resume screen is weird, I know a few people who should have made it past but didn’t for some reason

[fresh temple]

but maybe she's a girl idk

[winter heath]

Not needed though

[fresh temple]

or have some trading exp on there

in like competitions or whatever

or just get ur resume in front of recruiter

[winter heath]

I had JS interview sophomore year but not for swe so I didn’t get it

[fresh temple]

as opposed to ats

[astral dew]

Yeah idk. I thought Uber could carry but ig cuz my uni so bad it can’t

[winter heath]

No uni doesn’t matter too much afaik

[astral dew]

Ahh, maybe I have terrible resume then

[winter heath]

I did have (imo) pretty good experience going into sophomore year though, although obviously others have much better

[winter heath]

No nothing like that, it’s never worth reading into a resume reject since there’s too much rng

[astral dew]

True true. Still many great companies out there anyway

[solemn cedar]

@devout jewel does Reddit call to reject??

[devout jewel]

no

[fresh temple]

Congrats bro ski

[hearty river]

Congrats bro ski

[solemn cedar]

Lol I’m not going to celebrate bc I’m too dead from midterms

[winter heath]

Also in general if you could keep convos with me in discord.gg/csmajors that would be much appreciated

[fresh temple]

csm shill

no cap

[winter heath]

always

[fresh temple]

are you a mod on the sub too 👀

[winter heath]

No

I should ask though

Wdym

[fresh temple]

unpaid janny work

I moderated a2c

for a bit

[winter heath]

I doubt it

Discord has been great

[fresh temple]

thankless stuff

[winter heath]

I assume Reddit won’t be too diff

[safe minnow]

Here it might be more 💀

[winter heath]

Yeah that’s pretty unfortunate I’ll give you that

[tulip aspen]

LMAOO

[fresh temple]

q4 is hit or miss

I got a 10 liner for q4

literally involved min heap and nothing else

and then like LC hards for my other q4s

[safe minnow]

Oh fuck we have to do code signal again at the start of next season

[fresh temple]

eh

it's 80% trash

but so is any onlin eforum

like what examples of misinfo

[safe minnow]

We’re only 50% trash 😎

[winter heath]

I mean there’s misinformation here too, likely more of it just by the sheer volume of people (through no fault of cs careers to be clear)

[fresh temple]

LMAO

psy-op

[final lava]

Just declined Amazon, feels bad man

they wouldn't push to fall :/

[fresh temple]

why feelsbad

[sinful locust]

speaking of misinformation, does FAANG prefer generalists?

[fresh temple]

entry lvl or you mean later in career

later in career seems more like you interview with specific teams

or specific roles

[sinful locust]

New Grad/Intern

[fresh temple]

entry lvl they don't care whatsoever

unless you apply for a niche position

like embedded SWE @ goog / appl

they'll just throw you on a team

I heard about this kid interested in robotics

they put him on a web dev team at amazon robotics

[sinful locust]

So even if I go and do a project using CV and then Mobile and then Embedded I'll be fine?

[final lava]

I wanted amazon but I had secured another internship for summer already :/

[fresh temple]

yah, long as you can explain your resume to a recruiter

[sinful locust]

Sounds good, I didn't realize these companies didn't care about focus

[fresh temple]

why feel bad tho? you got the offer you wanted more

there will be other opps for fall

[safe minnow]

Bro istg this fucking class, I join office hours 3 seconds and 48 milliseconds after the queue opens and there are already 4 people in queue

They're scripting for sure

[wise island]

how do u prepare for a final behavioural with 2 engineer leads?

[fresh temple]

solely behavioral?

be able to answer behaviorals

good ones include: tell me about a time you failed

time you had a conflict with a teammate

what would you do in [hypothetical]

[wise island]

yea solely

[fresh temple]

obviously prep your standard behavioral

don't be afraid to say "idk, lemme think about that for a sec, that's a good question"

show enthusiasm for role, have good questions to ask at the end

you're interviewing them too

[fresh temple]

my fav questions to ask them is: "what keeps you here?" "most interesting project you've worked on", "worst day at work and why"\

[wise island]

what are they looking for btw that would be grounds for rejecting an applicant? this is the last step in the process so i’m curious

[fresh temple]

glaring red flags in answers, perhaps past exp, the general "vibe" (are you weird?), but honestly

[wise island]

they didn’t even tell me what team i’d be working on 😭

[fresh temple]

like behavioral is not like a challenge

just have good answers and be thoughtful

[wise island]

okay

[gentle latch]

faang likes leetcode monkeys
not real software engineers

[wise island]

i tried, one of them isn’t on linkedin at all

my friend told me they’re on the backend team tho, he’s interning with them now

well it’s not

i’m censoring

😆

i know the specific tools/product they’re working with

but yeah

yessir

[final lava]

welp, there's gonna be +1 now ig :/

[hallow scroll]

Jack bar what did you decline for

[final lava]

microsoft

[hallow scroll]

W

[final lava]

ty

[hearty river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981754288508375150/1077714682640597094/image.png

@sinful locust

[muted summit]

why is twitch spamming me rn

Thomas I do not give a shit

X4

fuck thomas

[silent nacelle]

Twitch should just give me an offer for this emotional damage

[stable spire]

ok this is really sad

like really reall sad

[earnest hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-emotional-damage-emotional-damage-gif-25817245

[fresh temple]

It’s fine@it was intern he’s chilling at Boston dynamics now

[stable spire]

click im interested in the black box in the email

ok i have no fucks left to give

imma click it

[earnest hatch]

What would you be interested in learning more about

[safe minnow]

🤔

Yeah

[earnest hatch]

imbilbobaggins

[safe minnow]

I was thinking how ironic it was that you were giving him a mock interview

[stable spire]

Every duplicate email he sends u can click it multiple times once per email

[safe minnow]

The main thing was

He mentioned 2x faang internships but also struggling this season

And normally you don't struggle to get another internship once you got those 2

So saying that considerably narrowed down who it was

Twitch entry looks good

But not well defined levels after that