quants-n-traders

[valid laurel]

dm me for cracked alpha

[pastel sage]

Are firms giving out the majority of offers to those who attended their Discovery Days? I know Optiver has already given out offers for next summer, and SIG is about to do the same.

[foggy flower]

i'd like to discover an offer

[stable python]

I want an internship, can anyone help , currently at the end of my second year

[ionic moat]

anybody know sig qt first year tc?

[dire finch]

[0, \inf)

[foggy flower]

you're just in time bro

[night brook]

how can one get internship in this day and age guys , into data sci please any advice 😭

what were the things you did to land a role? anyone

[dire finch]

ask my dad for an internship

[night brook]

ok serious? dm?

[foggy flower]

recruiting in 2018

[nimble quail]

chat can i get quant? have no prev experience but i made an order book with claude and bought getcracked

[foggy flower]

if you bought getcracked then you're chilling

[neat sun]

anybody know anything about headlands? in proc for swe rn there's like 0 info abt them online

[foggy flower]

i got getcracked.io and am now in pipeline for akuna capital's bespoke swe with only 3 yoe

[ruby fossil]

8 rounds

I’ve heard

[dire finch]

sister company to footseas

[harsh blaze]

Hi I plan to apply for trading firms after working in the industry for maybe a year after graduation.

Do they require and look at your college transcript during evaluation if you are not applying as new grad? I am asking as this is my last semester and I may have screwed up one of my ML class really badly

[nimble quail]

Some care, some not so much

[harsh blaze]

Which one does?

[near falcon]

I wonder if quant company CS tools picked up on companies like Nvidia and Apple and Google and how they could time the market for the best trades. Google did a spectacular job on growth this quarter, they always seem to come up with the best sales, marketing, and revenue generating ideas overall when the technology company earning calls close. What do people program out now for trades when there are so much tools already all built out.

[dire finch]

bro is lost

[lunar thicket]

are you high

[valid laurel]

How much do they pay

[foggy flower]

equity

[valid laurel]

Wym

[foggy flower]

mb lol

idk TC yet

there is some equity but i don't know the numbers

[valid laurel]

Does this seem right?

Looks like they all have 0 equity

Did recruiter reach out? What's your current experience/company?

Or did you apply

Thanks burp

I wanna get cracked too

After ddia and hello interview

I will get cracked .io

[foggy flower]

yeah i had some ruby on rails stuff on my github and they emailed

3 yoe + 1 internship

[lunar thicket]

its a quant firm

[cold heart]

Tool only work for little bit, must make new tool 👍

[neat sun]

fml it's joever

[azure zenith]

ay wdym you don’t want FLOW equity???!

[near falcon]

I see. So the idea here is to evolve the trading software tools as the markets keep changing in the world and the trades change. I've been looking at Sandisk Corporation recently, their growth is so ridiuclous.

[near falcon]

What is flow equity used for? What is the differencce betwween it and regular equity. Let me do some Google searching... interesting.

[azure zenith]

I was talking about Flow Traders 😉

[dire finch]

bro is lost

[near falcon]

bro is definitely lost and confused hahahahaha

What is flow trading

bro will research on Google

bro found out Flow Traders is a trading firm.

[dire finch]

[lunar thicket]

https://giphy.com/gifs/facepalm-XD4qHZpkyUFfq

[near falcon]

bro likes cats too.

The South Korea Hynix Group instagram posted a super cute cat video. It made me happy and smile. It was like an office cat working on a laptop. It was so cute.

[rare dock]

waht the fuck 😂

[north arrow]

Why do we have separate section for this -

I mean -

Barely 100 people in the whole world land this job

lol

[tranquil wagon]

Lmao

[amber palm]

John r u an AI

[mint aurora]

Nah

[valid laurel]

Yeema disciple

[candid frigate]

Like thousands do wdym

[north arrow]

It's a joke as it is extremely rare

In my country they solely hire ICPC finalists

[candid frigate]

Theres no relevant country outside of the US

[north arrow]

relevant country?

[candid frigate]

Theres no world outside of the US

[north arrow]

Oh I see, I am talking about actual world, not MCU

[candid frigate]

Idk what MCU is

This is an American server

🇺🇸

[north arrow]

I agree

(It's easy to argue with genius ppl, but impossible to argue against stupid ppl)

[lunar thicket]

100 of em in cscd alone

[lunar thicket]

graviton ahh

[merry rover]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-20061184

[candid frigate]

I think he’s just mad

[craggy monolith]

Hello

My child

[lunar thicket]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jXD7kFLwudbBC

[north arrow]

Oh sh- :/

[trail latch]

hey guys,

i’m a final year cs student from india. i’ve mostly been doing cp (cf expert, ~1900 lc) and i’m comfortable with c++.

recently started looking into quant/hft swe roles but honestly not sure what actually matters beyond cp. also planning for a masters (aiming for good unis), but not sure if that really helps for quant or not.

would love to hear from people here — what should i focus on to have a realistic shot?

[lunar thicket]

do you go to IIT

if not my informant tells me its pretty cooked

[trail latch]

Naah I'm not from IIT. That's the reason I was planning to do masters from other country

[lunar thicket]

might be cooked for india pray for T10 mscs

[frozen bolt]

what’s sig qsd ro rate and ft pay?

[near falcon]

No, but I use AI :/ I need to ask AI what Tesla Model car I should get in the future as well. That would be so awesome.

[north arrow]

Do they even provide scholarship?

Or have to take loan?

[craggy monolith]

67

[valid laurel]

Hi team

[naive elbow]

lord graviton summoned🥀

[naive elbow]

bro did u do hackathons putnam comp internship etc..... i think a holistic profile increases your chances for msc abroad rather than strict marks criteria like in india

btw ur lc rank is awsome

[ruby fossil]

Anyone in the industry have any insight into trading operations engineering roles? How does the trajectory of these compare to SWE at big tech?

[tough haven]

Like TDOE? I heard they don't let you switch to trader/swe roles, and for the JS its a lot of excel spreadsheets

comp is subjectively good if you're at a top firm, but not compared to swe or trader, and earnings trajectory seems less

[ruby fossil]

yeah I had a TDOE interview a few months ago

and getting some reachouts for this type of roles

I dont know too much about it but the trajectory seems potentially worse than faang swe even if the upside is high at the beginning

[tough haven]

Possibly. Also worth considering AI and its advancements

[ruby fossil]

are those the roles that would get replaced

the TDOE type ones

[tough haven]

No, I think SWE is just as fast to go

My point is the early comp upside may acc be worth it

[ruby fossil]

oh I see

I was also thinking the skillset that you

learn is just really niche

Which could be bad starting out

Anyways I just had no idea what to think about this type of role so thx for the insight

[robust seal]

Hey everyone, I’ve been thinking about how a lot of us are learning CS concepts, building projects, and prepping for interviews… but doing it mostly in isolation.

What if we formed a small, focused builder group (4–6 people) where we actually ship things together weekly — not just talk about ideas? Think: real projects, code reviews, mock interviews, and accountability.

The goal wouldn’t be just “learning,” but building a portfolio + network that compounds over time.

I’m especially interested in people who are serious about growth (projects, open source, or breaking into internships/full-time roles).

If this sounds interesting, drop a reply or DM — I’ll organize something structured so it’s actually useful, not just another inactive group.

Curious to see who’s in 👀

[tough haven]

Nws. Its a support role, at a firm like JS it will be technical with some coding too

But its not the same as SWE

[tardy steppe]

do people stay in quant long term for their career?

[reef turtle]

anyone with recent citadel / citsec offer willing to chat about negotiating? i feel like the recruiters are just lying through their teeth to me

[modern pecan]

Wdym

[reef turtle]

well the recruiter told me i should tell him what i want for base/bonus/sign-on and then he will try to get those numbers for me

and give him as much details about my current situation as possible. current comp, competing offers etc

😂 what a snake

[modern pecan]

lol

[nimble quail]

Is that for ng?

[reef turtle]

industry hire

[stone drum]

i think this is normal for them i had to do similar

[nimble quail]

Coming from quant or big tech or smthn else

[reef turtle]

tech with prev trading exp

[reef turtle]

can i dm you?

[mint aurora]

Is this not normal

[round pendant]

@nimble quail is at XTX dm him for alpha

[nimble quail]

@round pendant is at rentech dm him for 60% annual returns

[round pendant]

https://giphy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-speedgif-toDt4cc8ee3OMYDVcY

[reef turtle]

dm'd ~

[tardy steppe]

Anyone?

[wind notch]

yeah

[dreamy temple]

if you like it then you stay

[tacit roost]

some ppl at jane r there 10+ years

[frail tide]

no way u foudn me

[tranquil wagon]

Yeah

Its a career like any other

[tough haven]

except lots retire young if ur a trader/researcher and make bank

[modern pecan]

@reef turtle did u figure things out? i can dm

[reef turtle]

sent u dm

[worldly beacon]

Has anyone done IMC NG/Early career SWE interview I can talk to 🙏

[wind notch]

did they pull the posting for this

[lapis crow]

Hey guys, i made a job portal where people can find internships, new grad positions, and other jobs at quant finance companies. i have 1500+ trader/research/quant dev/swe jobs here

heres the internship link https://pagesxyz.com/jobs/quantitative-finance-internships

https://pagesxyz.com/jobs/quantitative-finance-new-grad new grad link

and the general website https://pagesxyz.com . if you go to resources, you will also see 100+ free probability and brain teaser questions along with market making, mental math, sequence games and the optiver 80 in 8. lastly, there is also a free study guide here https://pagesxyz.com/study-guide . let me know if u have feedback! everything here is available without paywall/sign up

[tardy steppe]

Do quant firms do layoffs?

I only hear about layoffs happening in tech

[grizzled sapphire]

pretty sure 2s did some layoffs a while back, I think it was part of the reason why people say they fell off, iirc

[lunar thicket]

if your pod gets cut i suppose it could be akin to a layoff

[tardy steppe]

Wdym by pod?

[lunar thicket]

a pod

[dire finch]

pea

[simple valve]

are most quant dev or swe roles at quant firms gonna be c++?

[tough haven]

Most quant dev probably but not swe

I found lots of python quant dev roles too

[mint aurora]

quant dev and swe is the same thing lol

[weary carbon]

has anyone done stuff with optiver on Optibook?
like the trading academy

[tough haven]

Not really

Quant dev usually is people talking about low latency / strategy implementation in c++ or similarly low level lang

But theres lots of quant adjacent swe roles that are further from pnl like internal tooling / post trade systems

[mint aurora]

it’s just a titular diff

lol

maybe at some firms they make a distinction

but there isn’t some broad overall difference

[tough haven]

Do you think that the people optimising low latency trading strategies in c++ don’t have difference in skillset to the post trade analysis team?

[mint aurora]

What does that have to do with what i said lol

[tough haven]

You said theres no broad difference beyond title

But the entire job is quite different

Even the application form

[mint aurora]

I think the software engineers at HRT working on C++ trade execution have a different skill set than the quant devs at citadel doing post trade

😁

[tough haven]

I get ur point, yes the firms name them differently but there’s still common usage on the internet

[mint aurora]

Broadly, the title doesn’t say anything about the role

On reddit forums maybe

Nobody in the industry cares

There r a few firms where they make some distinction but even then its not quant devs == low latency work usually

[tough haven]

Do you think the title quant dev implies lower level / closer to pnl than ‘software engineer’ ?

[mint aurora]

it’s quant devs == infra/ml work

[tough haven]

On avg in the industry

[mint aurora]

No lol

Maybe closer to pnl

Because there r hedge funds that have their swes do back office work for discretionary ppl

[tough haven]

I think theres a few other cases

Ur right tho maybe its less than I made out

[reef turtle]

Anyone know if citadel's sign-on bonus clawback is prorated if you leave in under a year?

[tardy steppe]

I’m still confused lol

[primal shell]

Lol

An interesting comment

[tough haven]

Do you also disagree?

If many ppl do then I’m happy to say I’m wrong

This was just the message I got from my online sources and from applying to roles

[primal shell]

What do you think the quant in quant dev refers to

Do u think it means c++

Or do you think it means a quant researcher/trader

Quant dev is sort of a meaningless title that doesn’t exist at most places & the places it does tend to be more “quanty”/researcher focused dev role or a trading team swe

I cannot say that quant dev being an execution dev is something I’ve seen a lot of. Usually they are called execution devs or core devs or something in that nature

[primal shell]

(Ex: https://www.citadelsecurities.com/careers/details/quantitative-developer-research-engineer/)

[primal shell]

Like this role is not “low level”

You will notice for example this role has a much greater emphasis on being “low level”

https://www.citadelsecurities.com/careers/details/c-software-engineer/

(I use citsec as an example because they clearly illustrate the point with both a “quant dev” role and an actual execution oriented role)

[lunar thicket]

very good explanation from rift

[lunar thicket]

A "pod" is a name for a smaller team (typically at a hedge fund) that operates semi-independently as its own vehicle with its own investment decisions headed by a portfolio manager that utilizes the host firm's infra and capital / legal / etc central resources and is paid with a cut of the profits they generate for that firm

[azure zenith]

idk about this man

[tough haven]

You and 2 others

Its probably not correct

[azure zenith]

quant dev is just dev but quant

[mortal compass]

!process additional round after final round (optiver swe intern)

[near falcon]

Whaaaaaaaaaat is this lol.

[craggy monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1502744394028028105/4752741321946052667.gif

[pure hamlet]

i would listen to yeema only tbh

[cinder bolt]

hi yall one of my friends is doing imc launchpad for swe and they were wondering what kind of games they would be playing

[balmy prism]

fortnite

[neon tartan]

@spark rose u r not tuff

stop deleting ur messages gnag

[neon tartan]

my ties run deep

[craggy monolith]

Watch your tone bud

Do you even know who you’re talking to

[wicked lotus]

Did anyone receive offer from Optiver since May? or did everyone get pushed to August with additional round?

[young nebula]

has anyone heard anything about imc launchpad? any advice for the market simulation?

[hardy marsh]

one person ik got offer, but lot of ppl r getting defferred

[pine leaf]

anyone got thoughts on imc vs sig

[round wave]

sig considered better place to start career, imc ro is pretty low

[mint aurora]

for what role

[mint aurora]

Huh

[foggy flower]

imc : I might choose
sig : sigma investment gold

The choice is obvious

[pine leaf]

trading

[mint aurora]

Sig

imc pays less, worse attrition, worse name brand

sig education is good

[pine leaf]

hmm how about vs optiver

tung tung tung sahur is englightening

[mint aurora]

better than imc hahaha

i think debatable w sig

optiver attrition is p bad, but u can earn a lot

and name brand is as good

and it’s in chicago

[primal shell]

Sig

[neon tartan]

i think u gotta take optiver, if its optiver vs sig

[mint aurora]

Retention is worse at optiver

Is the main concern ifl

[austere rampart]

Why so many deferrals

[lunar thicket]

SIG mogs

Chad risk taker vs virgin hyperparam monkey

[hardy marsh]

Guessing eip hit hc/is wrapping up. And they want to take a look at a larger pool of applicants before making any more decisions

[solid shuttle]

i just got r1 today 😭

[random garnet]

opt?

[solid shuttle]

yea rec call

[spring oak]

how long does it take after round to hear back from optiver for EIP

don't think everyone is getting additional round as well

[ripe sparrow]

does anyone know if SIG has started reachouts for summer 27 for QD or QSD

I interviewed for their DD but got rej

[frozen linden]

They let u do proc even if u get DD rej?

[ripe sparrow]

idk, email said they would reach back out in mid July

[spring oak]

are u sure they deferring that much?

heard it’s mainly rej and acceptances ngl

[lunar thicket]

@spark schooner get a load of this guy

[spark schooner]

hi can we not sell alpha please ty

[azure jetty]

drw and optiver do if u go to uiuc

[weak rock]

Point72 does

I’ve seen jump fall

citadel fall

js does fall if ur loo i believe

5r winter (just January) but it’s like 90%+ mit

[north arrow]

Are there any competitions or discovery programs which you can take part in or atleast get called for interview without having elite signals (like Olympiad medal)?

[north arrow]

I am curious, here I see everyone are afraid of the interview process...
But - how are you guys even getting called for interview in first place?

Each and every firm you mentioned have very elite resume screening process..

[naive elbow]

all companies organise hackathons and programs. deloitt jpm jane street etc. if you get yourself a rank in those thats a high signal equivalent of olympiad

[north arrow]

But the problem is -
These competitions themselves have elite level resume screening

For example, Citadel Datathon - It has very extensive resume screening just to participate

Similarly JPM CFG, GS hackathon, McKinsey Solve, any discovery programs of any reputed quant firm, etc

[north arrow]

And the screening is so extensive that they don't even have application portal to begin with.
They just provide the link the very selected handful universities and then tell them to screen the students and send the resumes of selected students

Yeah, there are exceptions like IMC prosperity, WorldQuant,

[naive elbow]

I understand its honestly frustrating if you dont have a platform to begin with.

[weak rock]

Well

[naive elbow]

but see you have to follow a regression protocol to bypass these filters.
Say you apply to jpm cfg and dont have any sort of schlastic awards, what you can do is do good in whatever is available so far like worldquant you already mentioned. Ik its easier said than done

[weak rock]

good prevs and good school @north arrow

[naive elbow]

@north arrow what uni are u from

[north arrow]

flex..., i see, lol /s

[weak rock]

not even flex though, it’s just true

[north arrow]

my university is not that great

[weak rock]

avg person at hrt or radix or smth is most likely from a t10 uni and/or has good prev exp or is just really cracked like usamo or icpc

[north arrow]

Yeah, that's why I put "/s", cause Ik you were speaking truth the moment you deleted the message...
Btw, congratulations :3

[weak rock]

they don’t rlly wanna hire false positives and lose money so they need to reduce the pool somehow

[north arrow]

yeah, ngl...
But are there any competitions or discovery programs which atleast calls for interview?

[weak rock]

yeah

Optiver future focus

Js fttp

Citadel launch

all of them r application + intv

well except js, which is just resume

[merry rover]

hoping js insight gets back to me

[north arrow]

Can you please give examples?
In my country, idk how every interview called student is either Oly medalist or ICPC finalist

[weak rock]

Hrt insight and hrt program is also application based not invite only

[naive elbow]

are you from india bro?

[north arrow]

whichever programs you mentioned, each and every single one of them just calls oly medalists or ICPC finalists, lol

[north arrow]

yah

yah

I have it... but of lower branch (branch change is not allowed in my uni)

[naive elbow]

IITian ?

[north arrow]

yah, but from low branch

[weak rock]

This is not true

[naive elbow]

forget the branch you have a shot if you have the tag

[weak rock]

You just need to go to a good school, don’t need icpc

for those programs

[north arrow]

In my country, 3 persons were selected - all of them were - ICPC finalists and from top 3 IITs CSE

[weak rock]

India is diff

I don’t do icpc or any oly and get interviews for those programs and actual intern

[naive elbow]

tell me one thing are you in top 5 or mid iit

[north arrow]

I am from extremely low branch. (you cannot change the branch in my uni)

[north arrow]

top 5, but not circuital branch

Not even maths branch

[naive elbow]

biotech?

[north arrow]

Yah, something like that :/

[weak rock]

do icpc urself or whatever oly they have in India

[north arrow]

mmm

[north arrow]

I am too old for oly, yeah, so icpc my only hope, ig

[naive elbow]

bro dw u dont need circuital. you can get in but you need to make up for the low branch to bypass the cs students

[north arrow]

is this path possible?

Yeah, I am non Oly

[naive elbow]

lol bro big tech is way easier to get in

[north arrow]

Yah, that's why I was curious.

[north arrow]

hmm

should I try open competitions like Porsperity or worldquant?
will it be worth it?

I mean I know the competition will be uphill battle, but still?

I see

hmm

[naive elbow]

check dm

[north arrow]

why message deleted? @glad kraken@frozen linden

[rancid geode]

R u in the US

[north arrow]

India :/

[rancid geode]

Aaah I see

Then I heard the strat is good school + good cf rating

[north arrow]

yeah, that's the only visible pathway, ig

[rancid geode]

I'm not sure if that still works cause too much cheating on cf these days

So maybe u might need to do well in icpc regional (?)

[cold heart]

doing well in icpc regional is probably the easiest way if you don’t go to a target school

[dire finch]

how about None Of The Above

[rancid geode]

I personally have given up on quant

I just want a stable swe job now

[craggy monolith]

Hello you inspire me and motivate me everyday to be stronger and better thank you

[violet socket]

optiver or js

[craggy monolith]

Tung tung tung sahur

[pallid juniper]

can i get ppls opinion on if getting qswe intern procs is doable with splunk c++ intern? i go to a chopped ahh school (t200) so not sure.

[untold prawn]

v unlikely

if not impossible

[pallid juniper]

rip

anything i can do to change that lmao?

close to grad so may just have to run masters at a better school ig

[untold prawn]

nothing you could do in a short time span

you'll likely just need a better internship

[lunar thicket]

that alone is probably not it, but if you have good supporting articles on your resume such as other internships, projects, research etc it could work

[frozen linden]

What abt from c1? Also from non target

[dreamy temple]

cfaang

[untold prawn]

also unlikely imo

[pallid juniper]

don't have any research exp but my prev internship exp is splunk c++, salesforce swe intern (mainly backend java work), and 2 f500 swe internships if that changes anything but im assuming it prob won't. my projects are nothing crazy tbh as well but I could def work on that

[frail tide]

c1 recruits from non targets

[flat eagle]

how many rounds is optiver eip

[frozen linden]

Alr gotcha. Does published research help at all for QD or nah?

[untold prawn]

yea if ur published in a good journal im sure it can

[quartz void]

ngl u can get this from anything

u just need luck😂

[lunar thicket]

Prolly fine just need luck

[spring oak]

anyone done r3 for optiver EIP and would be willing to help out? super stressed for this and would really appreciate insight

[modern pecan]

What EIP

[round salmon]

sorry to hop on the train but how about zon and sell side quant experience at rbc?

[untold prawn]

yea sufficient imo

pls no more

[round salmon]

😭

ty apologies

[spring oak]

early interview process

[dire finch]

the sound an animal makes

[flat eagle]

do yk how many rounds total?

[analog stump]

3

[flat eagle]

including the behavioral call?

[analog stump]

no

3 technical rounds

each round is an hour call

[wicked lotus]

do you know anything about additional round after 3rd tech?

[analog stump]

i know one person who got that last year

and they got the offer after it

[wicked lotus]

Do u know if the last additional round was technical or more like behavioral/resume based? Since we’ve already done all 3 tech rounds…?

[grizzled sapphire]

is anybody here in the rust discord server and can send me an inv? links online don't seem to work

I am tryna make a lp solver in rust to learn. it seems like a cool language

[merry rover]

sent

[stoic geyser]

what will it take to become a quant dev

or swe at a quant firm

this is my first year doing cs

[red rune]

prolly at least 5 calculator apps

[grizzled sapphire]

do not forget to make some todo apps too

[azure zenith]

it’s literally this

half joking but also kinda really not

[dire finch]

go figure it out honey buns

[cosmic tundra]

hi does anyone know if optiver eip is at HC?

[spring oak]

assume its not at HC as they are still offering recruiter calls

but i assume its getting closer

[grizzled sapphire]

why did you use an alt to post the same question

[blazing matrix]

Many things. A lot of it will be covered in your college courses (I hope). The rest you need to pursue yourself and supplement as needed.

As a first year, I'd permanently ban yourself from AI usage until your Junior year minimum.

[abstract storm]

As a first year, I'd permanently ban yourself from discord usage until your Junior year minimum.

[stoic geyser]

Can I dm you and we can have a more in depth conversation about it?

[merry rover]

As a first year, I'd permanently ban yourself.

[craggy monolith]

Ongog

[merry rover]

☺️

[blazing matrix]

No

[onyx turret]

I did it, can I ask questions?

[gloomy hollow]

anyone get janestreet reach out?

[neon tartan]

nope im chopped

can u decline the reachout and refer me

[neon tartan]

oh wow

thats a lot of cool companies

[robust mica]

has anyone done sig qsd proc before? What’s its like?

[hollow ferry]

trade what 💀

[hardy marsh]

ft or intern

[robust mica]

Ft

[near falcon]

If Rivian ever becomes as expensive as Tesla-- who knows

[dry widget]

John, the sentence structure makes it difficult to understand the main point of this message.

[craggy monolith]

[high forge]

Not sure if this is the right place, but has anyone interviewed for Jane Street MLE internship or NG? There isn’t much info online but I want to see how best to prepare for my upcoming proc.

FWIW I’m gonna be at optiver swe in 2027 but want to prep well for my 2028 proc with js

[primal shell]

Jfc

[quartz void]

2028 proc in 2026💀

alr bro

[grizzled sapphire]

it was a mix of lc, math rounds like lin alg and probability, then I think they specifically get someone to ask you abt the field you have exp in. You also have a research round iirc where you talk abt recent papers in your field or your fav papers. just going in depth to see how well yk your stuff, from what I undertand. Source: js mle ft ik

asked him the same questions as you lol

you should dm people on linkedin instead of continuing to try on here/tqd/ml resources

[waxen cypress]

I think so I got reconnect in August after final

[high forge]

thanks! that's good to know. if he's on discord, would you mind connecting me to him if he's alr with that?

I'm not the biggest fan of cold dming on linkedin but if it comes down to that I'll do it

[high forge]

they invited me to 2027 proc since I had a competing offer but since I'm a freshman we both agreed it would be best for me to stay in touch throughout the year and they'll let me know once they can start interviewing me for 2028

[grizzled sapphire]

twin is lile 26. he is not on dc

[high forge]

lol that's fair

there's one guy from my school who is incoming mle I might cold dm him on linkedin

[grizzled sapphire]

just catch him lacking in the banana lounge some day

[high forge]

might be a bit late for that finals just ended lol

and he's ft

[grizzled sapphire]

already? us exam period is crazy

[high forge]

yea and for the US we are super late

all the other boston schools were done since early may

[grizzled sapphire]

dude my exams do not start for another 3 weeks

[high forge]

are you uk

ig mainland eu also has exams in june in many places

[grizzled sapphire]

🇸🇪

[high forge]

nice

well um

I hope you go celebrate with some uh

ikea

or smth

when ur done

best of luck mate

[grizzled sapphire]

preesh

[neon tartan]

they offered to interview you for MLE?

[high forge]

they let me interview for whatever role I wanted

I mean if you want proof feel free to dm lol

[neon tartan]

check dm

[random garnet]

cap

[neon tartan]

yeah i havent got a response yet lol

[high forge]

Hold on I’m not home rn will send in 10 min

[high forge]

dmed

[lament urchin]

wow UBI mega larper 🤣

[rough basin]

is he larp or real

[high forge]

I love when people want to hear third party opinions when they could just ask me to send proof directly

[lament urchin]

Nah don’t bother this guy larp

He takes online screenshots and photoshops

[high forge]

Lmao

Good for him

Nothing like seeing people who spend more time larping than actually trying to improve themselves

[lunar thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif

[neon tartan]

seems legit

very cracked indeed

[rough basin]

dmed

[onyx turret]

what should I expect in IMC Software Engineer – AI Powered Engineering position process? can't find anything about it

[lunar thicket]

i heard the imc chess server had some info about this

[onyx turret]

can you send server invite? if not troll

[neon tartan]

@neon dragon oh wow

[onyx turret]

why did you block the right side

[lunar thicket]

no free alpha

[rare basin]

true free market

[lunar thicket]

they done posted the IMC alpha in the official IMC chess tourney server with the IMC recruiters im crying 😭

[rare basin]

ez

why is my message getting deleted

[lunar thicket]

atp claude is trained on the IMC alpha its so widespread

[hardy marsh]

r u deadass lmao

[wind notch]

what aura must you have had to achieve this

[high forge]

I don't think it's aura it's just that I was honest about my offers in our call and they didn't want to risk assigning me to a role I wasn't interested in and hence losing me as a candidate

so they said I can choose

[wind notch]

impressive

but also for them to reach out when ur a freshman

that's aura

[high forge]

yea it's weird cuz I was rejected from fttp

they might have reached out cuz I will be AMP TA this summer tho

[modern pecan]

It’s called ask and you shall receive

[azure zenith]

This is quite common

If you’re a good fit for a different role, why silo you into a pipeline that you will be less likely to interview well for?

[wind notch]

ig it's just a Jane street thing then

[azure zenith]

yeah it’s quite nice :))

although I think other firms do it too. Depends which.

once you have some basic competence shown I think firms are pretty reasonable in trying you out for other things but there needs to be some signal

It is in the firms best interest to get you in the role you will do best at

sometimes you’ll be unlucky if they just need a space to be filled specifically

[high forge]

jane street is quite based

idk if other firms do it cuz I haven't recruited at all pretty much I've only recruited for firms that reached out to me

[grizzled sapphire]

no other firms do this too. e.g it is pretty common to do like a dd, then when fast-tracked, ask for different proc

I never heard anyone ask for mle intern proc tho. Only qt/qr

[craggy monolith]

Mf said they like he wasn’t there

[high forge]

is this a bad thing

did I make a mistake 😨

I feel like my current internships/research have been heavily focused on ml applications and scaffolding so I feel like it might be the best fit for me but idk

[grizzled sapphire]

this is ofc an interest thing lol

js is very flexible from what I hear. I would have taken qr and asked to do ml work

but like who cares, same shit

[high forge]

I heard qr is like impossible to get into tho

[grizzled sapphire]

cope

[high forge]

unless ur acc like giga cracked

and I don't have olympiad exp and am kind of dumb

[grizzled sapphire]

never doubt yourself

https://tenor.com/view/allmight-bnha-mha-meme-fist-up-gif-13588517052470008833

[high forge]

well

what is the practical difference anyway

qr deals more with markets and ml probably more with infra and research there?

[grizzled sapphire]

indomitable human spirit vs js qr proc

[high forge]

I'm just an average joe

though tbf

your attitude is enviable and I should adopt it

ur right man anything is possible

I should stop ngmimaxxing and believe in myself more

🥹

[grizzled sapphire]

bro we got this

WAGMI

on foenem

[high forge]

I hope you're not being sarcastic

[grizzled sapphire]

no genuinely wagmi twin

[spring oak]

when reaching out to a recruiter whats generally a good subject line

[blazing bay]

Hello quant, how to get quant?

[lunar thicket]

yes

[lunar thicket]

i am an innocent man

[cold heart]

Everyone got imc alpha

[foggy flower]

i = IMC
m = Millennium
c = citadel

[neon tartan]

who got cit alpha

[foggy flower]

c = citadel
i = imc
t = tower research

[pure halo]

anyone has best resources for just practicing questions? I got quantable but might cancel to do quant guide because it has the company specific question feature.

[foggy flower]

q = quadrature
u = ubiquant
a = akuna
n = millenium
t = two sigma

[cold heart]

Do Optiver

[foggy flower]

O = optiver
p = point72
t = two sigma
i = imc
v = virtu
e = eng gate
r = radix

[craggy monolith]

Wow

I - I
M - m
C - chud

[foggy flower]

Can I still land quant trading for summer 2025

[rough basin]

SIG
S - sig
I - imc
C - cit

[random garnet]

xtx

[foggy flower]

x - xponance
t - tower research
x - x square

[random garnet]

belvedere

[foggy flower]

b = blackrock (close enough)
e = elliott investment
l = lone pine
v = voloridge
e = engineers gate
d = drw
e = exoduspoint
r = rentech
e = esl investments

[cold heart]

Damn you could’ve done blackedge

[hardy marsh]

wtf even is voloridge

[foggy flower]

No idea

[rancid geode]

Amazon

[ruby fossil]

Anyone have experience working in Singapore/HK locations over US?

[foggy flower]

R - rentech
A - AQR
I - IMC
N - nova capital
F - five rings
O - Optiver
R - radix
E - exodus
S - SIG
T - tower

[round prism]

crtp

[spring oak]

master larper

[split oar]

Would a MSCS from Columbia or GT be better for quant if I went to a nontarget for my bachelors?

[foggy flower]

Odin project(Ruby on Rails) >= Target CS undergrad > OMSCS > everything else

[lunar thicket]

columbia but this is pretty cooked either way

[azure jetty]

can i go msft to quant

[foggy flower]

m - meta
s - snowflake
f - Figma
t - tower

so it's possible

[craggy monolith]

Yo wtf

You cooked here

[merry rover]

TOP so high signal 🥹

[lunar thicket]

nope never been done before I can’t name a single prev msft who got quant

[grizzled valley]

yeah never been done

[foggy flower]

Can I go quant to MSFT

[grizzled sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464903958756855892/1508311826079682741/IMG_8656.gif

[craggy monolith]

No

Msft is too vigorous

[foggy flower]

I'm gonna be more GMI than anyone else! Me, the next MSFT, a FAANG legend! Then everyone will have to stop disrespecting me and look up to me! Believe it

[real bluff]

I was feeling super anxious and this actually made me laugh so hard and calm down thank you

[sullen falcon]

why were you feeling anxious

[candid spear]

any1 done headlands proc

/ know anything about it

[foggy flower]

will they know if i used chatGPT for my application?

[real bluff]

im broke and in student debt

so I need to find something before I graduate otherwise Im lowkey cooked for the next 5 years

at least

[craggy monolith]

nah

[quartz void]

"include transcript" == fade

[cold heart]

Fading 700k tc for 4 extra button clicks

[cold heart]

It’s long and grueling

[solid shuttle]

anyone know how optiver r3 is?

[candid spear]

D:

[cold heart]

I heard it was 8 rounds from a headhunter

[quartz void]

nah its cuz my gpa is ahh💀

[minor eagle]

Are headhunters useful in general compared to just applying normally

[cold heart]

No

[real bluff]

what is headhunter

[spark heath]

anyone wants a DSA buddy to grind for next coming recruiting cycle for quant?

[nimble quail]

Third party recruiter essentially

[real bluff]

oh I think I know what you're talking about

are they just a funnel into buying a 100 dollar resume or smth?

[foggy flower]

why not grind odin project if it's for quant

[nimble quail]

Eh haven’t heard the best things, but some people have apparently had success

[real bluff]

honestly nc 150 1-2 problem a day adn forget

https://klipy.com/gifs/habib-nurmagomedov-ufc

[mint aurora]

They r good sometimes

they reach out on behalf of companies and get u to apply to them

sometimes they bring companies u dont rlly know abt which is nice

or they can give u numbers like comp etc

[real bluff]

I see

[neon tartan]

wow straight to the point

[lunar thicket]

no.

PSA - if you are recruiting for quant and think you need a headhunter, by the virtue of being in this server you probably don't

they are very helpful for very niche circumstances when teams have very narrow skillsets they are targeting / niche role openings that are spread only via word of mouth, however these are typically only open to experienced employees or talent that gets job offers from citadel in the form of origami bouquet roses each month

[lyric pilot]

are there any other discord communities for quant recruiting?

[foggy flower]

Can i land headhunter quant

[craggy monolith]

No head hunters in my DMs

Is it over?

[stable python]

Yess m

[stable python]

Yeah

@spark heath you ready?

[foggy flower]

it's never over, it's never too late to land a summer 2025 quant role

[robust mica]

Did optiver and imc change their question bank for this cycle for swe?

Why am I hearing different questions from past years

[stoic geyser]

is odin project good for quant?

[foggy flower]

Ruby on Rails yeah

[spring oak]

not a soul is sending u this 😂

[foggy flower]

O - Optiver
P - PJT
T - two sigma
I - IMC
V - voloridge
E - engineers gate
R - rentech

[ruby fossil]

is voloridge application page a black hole

[lunar thicket]

they got like a single recruiter

and their benefits are way too nice for her to be staring at resumes all day

[midnight scroll]

lol about time no?

no more imc free money hack 🥀

[cold heart]

Probably good

IMC free money hack was so good tho

[neon tartan]

wont do much

if they use the same bank for the same cycle its just going to get leaked again lol

[round salmon]

where do people tend to go for these question banks or even insights?

[foggy flower]

They come to me for alpha

[primal shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif

[craggy monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif

[pure halo]

Anyone know if trading system engineer role at SIG is new? Haven’t seen anyone on LinkedIn with that title.

[lunar thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif

[stone drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif?ex=6a1b54ce&is=6a1a034e&hm=6cc9b2547c49f4e4bdd95eecd764a07c5ace2e76bbd785247666d46647be36ef&

[reef turtle]

options pricing book recommendations anyone?

natenberg?

[neon dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447445158160502846/1506768810676453496/caption.gif

[neon dragon]

Did u end up going cit

[reef turtle]

Jane street

[glad kraken]

incoming ocamlbob

[reef turtle]

Don't think so. Js swe, citsec qre, and some smaller firms

[neon tartan]

oh wow

can u send me ur querstions?

[shut helm]

why do ppl keep saying odin project is good for quant? is it for qr or swe

[tardy ivy]

swe