#2023_grads

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prime crag
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Has anyone given interview for MLE at tiktok?

dapper cave
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hasnt tiktok gotten a bunch of layoffs recently?

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thatd be dope actually

quartz wolf
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Its a trend rn to dump senior salaries and hire new people at a cheaper price

dapper cave
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but of course

prime palm
dapper cave
prime crag
paper basalt
rain patio
lean carbon
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ever get ghosted after getting 600/600 in OA and phone screening šŸ˜­

lunar sonnet
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ropito has life figured out

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lean carbon
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btw what is NGMI?

slender axle
serene pivot
lean carbon
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no JP Morgan Cahse

lean carbon
molten knot
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Not Gonna Make It sadge

lean carbon
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oh dam

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thats depressing

wintry echo
lean carbon
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Yup

mellow glade
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Another day no bitches no job

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elfin flint
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same

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sameeeeeeeeeeee

brave forge
mellow glade
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No interviews no motivation no future. Itā€™s joever like never before

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brave forge
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Day in the life

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I think god forgot about me

elfin flint
brave forge
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Yes this whole server

mellow glade
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I LOOOOOOOOOOVE GRADUATING INTO THE WORST MARKET. AND WHEN THE MARKET DOES RECOVER ILL BE WAY PAST MY EXPIRATION DATE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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brave forge
mellow glade
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I donā€™t even like coding that much. I just wanted money and thought it was cool.

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brave forge
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Itā€™s because u commit the sin of gluttony lusting after money

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This is what you get

mellow glade
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Youā€™re right.

rich prairie
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@brave forge HELLO ID LIKE TO ORDER

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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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ONE

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SECURITY CLEARANCE PLEASE

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TO GO

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WITH KELP FRIES

vapid oasis
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Man Iā€™m getting tiredā€¦.yo someone give me hopium

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Plz

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Plzzzz

grizzled bronze
vapid oasis
tribal wigeon
rich prairie
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i've no idea what ur talkin abt

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;-;

tribal wigeon
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Forget it, you might be someone else. I saw a Reddit post like that

rich prairie
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o

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link

tribal wigeon
brave forge
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i will invistigate this matter and fine the company responsible

gleaming trellis
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They ainā€™t gonna wait for him lol

brave forge
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i hate clearance new grad jobs. Ofc a new grad doesnt have clearance

tawdry nacelle
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Like who is gonna pay to have it ready on hand just to apply?

brave forge
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ex-military people are who they are targetting

frosty bison
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I would probably be in Lockheed rn if I had had a clearance

tawdry nacelle
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Then that proves my point even more

grizzled bronze
tawdry nacelle
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Add this to the pile of reasons why I wonā€™t apply to defense

mellow glade
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yo this is probably a scam right? I dont clearly recall applying to these guys, so theres a bunch of places i apply to without remembering their names

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i got another email with the exact same text in late november

grim ore
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@tardy geode hasnā€™t posted here in awhile, did he rope? sadge

vital meteor
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did he bust sadge

cloud zinc
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Did he buss?

tawdry nacelle
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oh wait nvm I can't read below image

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yea probably scam then

mellow glade
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Theyā€™re preying on my desperation šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø

frank stream
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or any indication its personalized

mellow glade
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Hello [first name]

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Maybe I should interview just to see whatā€™s up lol

frank stream
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they have your info some how šŸ˜±

mellow glade
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Yea I probably signed up for some bullshit in a moment of weakness

grizzled bronze
mellow glade
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what

tribal wigeon
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Software Engineer I role šŸ¤”

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rich prairie
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like OK

brave forge
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im interviewing with NSA and they just give out security clearance easy

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since they are government and it is no cost or effort for them

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u have to take polygraph though

rich prairie
brave forge
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and strip search and drug test and dna test and lab autopsy and eyris scan and pp measurement and provide all social media accounts to them

brave forge
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ya they hire for all roles

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81.5k base

rich prairie
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nice

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DMs

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its not easy

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you need a lotta details

grizzled bronze
brave forge
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guys it says dont tell people u are interviewing at the nsa

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i am going to get arrested šŸ’€

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u guys are my close friends right?

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its fine then

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everyone except @pulsar mural is my friend

grizzled bronze
brave forge
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guys i was browsing somebodies profile on reddit that mentioned also getting NSA interview and i kid u not the guys profile was super active in r/suicidewatch and he says he wants to die and his useless CS degree expires in 3 months once he is one year out from 2023 new grad

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i just thought this would be a motivating message to share in this channel

grizzled bronze
past hound
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Clearance takes forever

tawdry nacelle
lost ether
mellow glade
brave forge
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i dont really mind, if i get my contingent offer im going to just party for 6-10 months while i wait for job to start and not touch one studying at all

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take it as one last break before career life starts

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Also I received new intelligence from my sources

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they say, you should email the recruiter and ask for a phone interview if possible. When they give you the phone, all you have to do is talk to a lady who's not at all knowledgeable on SWE, and then she sells your skills to teams and you end up with a bunch of offers from seperate teams wanting to hire you

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i am going to test this new strategy in the morning when i email them

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ya but they would do that anyways, at least u dont have to sit in front of a 1 hr hirevue

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and in this case i think the recruiter you speak to will try to help you along

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he sent me a picture of his offer, but it was 79k in Texass and he declined it

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i met him off my university discord so he's verified

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theres like 100s of behaviorals leaked on their glassdoor also

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Im trying to make a list and practice them all

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but this time is different and im preparing really hard also

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a lot of seperate people have said as long as you sound competent they should match you with an offer so thats all i need to focus on

rain patio
pine topaz
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@elder forum i found my new job

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goodbye cs

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this is a field with job stability, nice pay

brave forge
steep cove
cloud zinc
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jk, I don't have an offer from NSA

fallen fox
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@rain patio WazowskiStare

pine topaz
rain patio
tawdry nacelle
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I just had a position Iā€™m supposed to have a phone with ask me before scheduling if I live in Chicago, I donā€™t, how likely you think they gonna auto reject

lunar sonnet
tawdry nacelle
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I will move to a position as long as it doesnā€™t make me move to bum fuck nowhere

barren juniper
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Hi everyone, i have a goldman sachs superday interview, does anyone gone through the process recently? will be helpful if we can chat for couple of mins. Please dm.

smoky portal
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Hey anyone do a phone screening with vanguard? If so what specific questions did they ask?

untold fjord
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what this even for?

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paper basalt
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This is the hill we die on

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They can not have our phones

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ā€œAre you ok with installing spyware for wagecorpā€ clownBongo

pliant hamlet
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if they pay me enough yes dogesmile

violet topaz
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enough is 500k for that

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and id be getting a seperate phone

paper basalt
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yea get burner phone for it i guess

paper basalt
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probably

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defense hires in january

forest scarab
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which ones

paper basalt
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northrop, raytheon, boeing

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lockheed, L3, honeywell

violet topaz
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boeing šŸ¤”

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inb4 swe intern causes plane malfunction in prod

paper basalt
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yea theyve had a bad time but theyll still hire

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Patreon got straight up hacked earlier this week, did you see that

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person was able to gain access to their main email, and basically shill a shit coin $SUI

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and also try to get peoples wallets

fossil jewel
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all companies cheap out on security

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cybersec doesnt pay much and requirements are higher

paper basalt
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yea and noones really good at it unless theyre a real hacker

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or thoroughly certified

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you see that one guy on youtube

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was like, every company has some default password if yours expires

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he was like you can guess so many of them for pen testing

mellow glade
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bro they cant be serious

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golden agate
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do it

brave forge
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28400 on rent is certainly expensive when your income is just 50k. generally they say your rent should be no more then 1/3rd of your income

fallen fox
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@rain patio WazowskiStare

frozen thistle
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Me

vapid oasis
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Me

fallen fox
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@rain patio FeelsRainMan

pliant hamlet
grim ore
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@fallen fox @rain patio WazowskiStare

rain patio
fallen fox
brave forge
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I think that guy I posted about saying he wants to end it on Reddit as a failed 2023 grad did after more rejections šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

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Someone should hide the ropes from 2023 grads

violet topaz
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all of us 2023 grads are expired goods

blazing flame
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they're never gonna archive this

violet topaz
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maybe they will once a majority of the folks graduating in 2023 are placed in roles

pine topaz
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see you all in 2025_grads gladge

brave forge
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lets goo

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2025

blazing flame
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i cant tell if this is sarcasm

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but yea it's crazy that companies will reject u for not finding a ng job immedietly

lunar sonnet
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itā€™s not that they reject you

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they just donā€™t get impressed and have infinite ppl to get impressed by

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they literally have infinite supply of perfect candidates so it sucks

pine topaz
lunar sonnet
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2 years? more like 6 months

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and even then ng pipelines were unaffected

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once you graduate u just lose access to the pipeline and then itā€™s rip joever

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graduate with FAANG RO

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or ropemaxx

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wym stopped hiring

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external L4?

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zon l4 external hiring bar raised != tech stopped hiring for 2 years and companies discriminating against 2022 2023 grads

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the bar has also been super high for any kind of swe well before 2023 , so itā€™s also difficult for 2023 people to evaluate if they were just below the bar or getting screwed by the market , itā€™s still happening

grim ore
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the entry level industry rises and falls with zon hiring KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

lunar sonnet
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also zon interviews itā€™s always a skill issue , itā€™s one of the only companies that really doesnā€™t care itā€™s just what you can bring to the table , itā€™s always open

tawdry nacelle
lunar sonnet
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if your goal is Zon then youā€™re just not there yet , waiting for it to happen is just a waste of time

lunar sonnet
tawdry nacelle
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Yes itā€™s above average, but not to where you need a FAANG RO to get anything or be cracked with projects and internships to find something

lunar sonnet
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but compared to like being good at leetcode and knowing basic stuff

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the bar is super high beyond that even for basic swe

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you can skip out on having to meet the bar if you make it work from a pipeline , but if you need to go through it normally itā€™s pretty high

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like networking and doing well in internship you can skip out on that aspect or timing getting a job perfectly with your grad

grim ore
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meta is hiring plenty of new grads and experienced hires

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skill issue

eager crag
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More likely to get struck by lightning than get an OA tho

lunar sonnet
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meta prestige screens so hard itā€™s insane

eager crag
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School diff

lunar sonnet
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I get 3 faang+ and unicorn interviews but meta canā€™t even get anything - meta and google screen based on degree + school for sure

eager crag
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Our child prodigy graduating college at 18 + apple intern canā€™t get FAANG+ any oas

lunar sonnet
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itā€™s probably my fault tho I shouldā€™ve applied with referral lol

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Everyone should also realize big tech is going through some shit

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like the rest of the world

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and the economy in general

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AI has destroyed billions of dollars in valuation for all these companies , the people there for decades are getting screwed

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obviously theyā€™re not worried about being inclusive of ppl who couldnā€™t land job instantly

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saying itā€™s funny makes it seem like theyā€™re 100% in the wrong and people are doing everything right

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everyone only wanting to work in faang and thinking anything else is for losers is also one of the reasons thereā€™s no other decent companies and weā€™re in this situation where everything is crumbling

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crazy ppl are still optimizing life for the sole goal of getting into faang

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itā€™s a different market and economy right now , kind of like every person for themselves

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bad market for new graduates or people who donā€™t have something to offer instantly

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esp in FAANG where everyoneā€™s life is on the line and itā€™s cutthroat , even getting in could more likely than not end up with insta pip unless youā€™re max prepared

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everyone is screwed

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even 2022 grads and 2025 grads

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we just need to invent 500 new $10billion revenue per year companies in the next 1 year and weā€™re back

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until then get funded by the taxpayers

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joever

vital meteor
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its joever time to pick up a trade

brave forge
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all of csch

lunar sonnet
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we need Libertarianism, itā€™s not like thereā€™s infinite money to go around for everyone out there

brave forge
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we all march on nsa

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free offers for everyone

lunar sonnet
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break up big tech

brave forge
lunar sonnet
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hit ā€˜em all with anti trusts

tawdry nacelle
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H&R, then NSA, now wise lol

lunar sonnet
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big tech is laying off so many ppl maybe this will drive some growth in other areas , also with this new AI/modern developments existing companies are too bloated by tech debt / outdated stuff / overhead

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so many big companies are bound to go to shit

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especially non hardware ones

elfin flint
grizzled bronze
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his account is cursed

fossil jewel
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if they canā€™t get into banks bc of sponsorship imagine dod

serene pivot
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Anyone here had phone tech with ramp recently?

ebon summit
oak kite
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Damn, i didn't make the final round, i dont understand

vital meteor
oak kite
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It was a small local company

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im technically graduating in may tho

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but still, fml

violet topaz
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how many of yall have considered going back to school

elfin flint
violet topaz
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u can get online masters from gt for like 7k

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and honestly it might be worth it considerijg the shitty market rn

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cuz at least eligible for internships again

brave forge
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Better to do something then nothing and be long term unemployed. If you have been out of uni for > 6 months itā€™s time to do a masters and apply for intern

violet topaz
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yea

forest scarab
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is gt hard to get into?

violet topaz
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probably

forest scarab
violet topaz
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yea

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who do letters of rec need to be from

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can u get letters from prev employers

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hm

elfin flint
violet topaz
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whaat

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scholarships?

elfin flint
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must have 3.0 gpa or above to get TAP and pell grant

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they actually paid me every semester tho

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around 2k each semester for books and shit

grizzled bronze
forest scarab
brave forge
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bob already told u above WazowskiStare

violet topaz
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šŸ‡ÆšŸ…¾ļøšŸ…±ļø

brave forge
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i see magellan openings every day ffs

gleaming trellis
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Iā€™ve seen many of these near min wage SWE job in NY, why?

rain patio
fallen fox
grizzled bronze
vapid oasis
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Damn just took the wise oa

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Oof

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Shouldā€™ve prepared more

carmine pecan
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What types of questions did it have

vapid oasis
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Its in the link they sent u

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Well time go back and grind some lc

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Cuz I am still not prepared

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I think u should still try no matter what the result. In the end you get practice. To answer ur question I am dumb. So I felt it was hard but fr some it might be ez.

elfin flint
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they pay more than that

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tawdry nacelle
elfin flint
crystal hollow
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i was gonna do IBM OAs today but then the apartment maintenance guy decided he needed to rip the floor out of my bathroom

tawdry nacelle
violet topaz
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šŸ‡ÆšŸ…¾ļøšŸ…±ļø

crystal hollow
tawdry nacelle
crystal hollow
gleaming trellis
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But this min wage job is 1000x more competitive than other min wage job

rain patio
brave forge
heavy reef
rain patio
pliant hamlet
coarse pivot
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saranghe my boy

pliant hamlet
autumn iris
narrow harbor
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why did some random manager at x company message me on linkedin all of sudden asking how i was doing

gleaming trellis
slender axle
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Guys my 600 codesignal is about to expire šŸ„²

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Havenā€™t seen any OAs in a long time

fallen fox
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@rain patio šŸ’€

true parrot
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where do you guys apply for jobs at?

woeful arch
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Has anyone taken Meta New Grad virtual onsite?

oak kite
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Oh, and Handshake

violet topaz
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šŸ‡ÆšŸ…¾ļøšŸ…±ļø

rain patio
twilit sedge
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hey , I graduated in 2022 may.Can i apply for new grad roles now?

pine topaz
twilit sedge
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Anyone gave interview for SONOS?

pliant hamlet
tribal wigeon
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Time to update my resume šŸ’ŖšŸ½ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fofFh5sC1O0

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CANT GET A TECH JOB!? šŸ™…šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø STOP DOING THIS!!!! šŸ˜±

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untold fjord
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damn they got a lot of jobs in DMV area that requires clearance.

vapid oasis
rain patio
lean carbon
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I might get hate for this but, for those that dont have a job yet in tech go learn a trade skill

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there is money there atm

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this also is directed at those with a job as well. cause now we know that job security doesnt exist anymore PepeHands

smoky portal
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Hey anyone do a phone screening with vanguard? If so what specific questions did they ask?

grizzled bronze
uneven linden
fading zenith
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Meta recruiter just came back from a week break, says they're still gathering feedback and asked about my Amazon offer deadline šŸ˜­

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It's been a whole week since my followup

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Pls take me out of this misery

lean carbon
real goblet
proud mantle
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has anybody interviewed at Trimble MAPS?

narrow harbor
lean carbon
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plumbing cause aint nobody ready to deal with literal crap

grim ore
narrow harbor
violet topaz
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onlyfans

narrow harbor
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damn im smooth brained

lean carbon
violet topaz
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AI generated OF

crystal hollow
native mango
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I need a JOB! šŸ˜¦ šŸ˜¦ šŸ˜¦ šŸ˜¦

violet topaz
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šŸ‡Æ šŸ…¾ļø šŸ…±ļø

gray terrace
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How hard has it been for everyone (2023 grad) to get a job?

rain patio
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Bro

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Still unemployed

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Whadafuq

gray terrace
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What strategies have you noted to be ineffective in securing opportunities given your experience? I graduated last month (Dec), and I am struggling to land interviews. Hence I was hoping for some advice

rain patio
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Do you have internships

gray terrace
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3

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what about you?

rain patio
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1

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But I got 1 yoe

gray terrace
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yoe?

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oh year of experience

rain patio
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Yes

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I was laid off but still on the hunt

ebon summit
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and where at?

gray terrace
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mostly summer internships at research labs

ebon summit
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I usually just try to be one of the first people who apply + email the recruiter

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that's really the only way I've heard back this time around

gray terrace
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Got yea. I tried doing that with a couple recruiters. But they never reply back. How do you get around that @ebon summit ?'

ebon summit
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or messsage another recruiter

fallen fox
elfin flint
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Jobover

lunar sonnet
fallen fox
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@rain patio WazowskiStare

grim ore
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@fallen fox @rain patio WazowskiStare

pliant hamlet
blazing flame
modest rampart
bold pier
native mango
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Not getting any interview.

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It's more difficult if you are international

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It's been 7-8 months for me

lunar sonnet
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7-8 months no interviews?

native mango
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Gave couple of interviews in 2023 but nothing got converted.

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I got till November 2023

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After that no interview

frozen thistle
earnest summit
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Go local, big tech is dead

lunar sonnet
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no interviews has to be resume issue

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have you tried having linkedin

native mango
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No, it's not resume

lunar sonnet
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like having activity on there and seeming like an actual person whoā€™s clearly a swe

frozen thistle
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Spent 500 + of USD for 1:1 mentor sessions, resume review and what not.

lunar sonnet
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Were you failing interviews

frozen thistle
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The current market for new grad is really f* up.

lunar sonnet
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or not getting any

ebon summit
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email them directly

lunar sonnet
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at least for me

grim ore
ebon summit
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lmao

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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like theyā€™re not trying to hire you but just put you through the loop

lunar sonnet
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t20 school? masters cs?

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are you in Cali or Washington or near there

frozen thistle
grim ore
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all the info you need to get a job is free online

lunar sonnet
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some red pilled perpetual l4 faang type behavior

lunar sonnet
grim ore
ebon summit
lunar sonnet
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good right

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to land nothing?

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what about the dude who has ServiceNow and 4 other offers

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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have you asked him

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your profile does not seem like you should be getting no interviews

grim ore
frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
grim ore
lunar sonnet
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reach out

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to your network

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which state are you in rn

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go to sf

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or Seattle

native mango
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NC

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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thatā€™s rip

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youā€™re gonna be screwed there

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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screwed there too

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you need to go to NJ NY Cali or Washington and network

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ideally cali

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all the tech opportunities are there

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ppl make it work there somehow

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the earlier the better , things will get worse

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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if your plan is to wait for market to get better , imo itā€™s not a good plan or itā€™s like having no plan

lunar sonnet
grim ore
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spending money on ā€œprofile reviewā€ isnā€™t networking

lunar sonnet
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you need to be out in the streets

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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thatā€™s literally how ppl make it work

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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idk Iā€™m going off of sample size of 2 in the last couple months

clear needle
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do yall think moving to cali for a low paying system engineer job is worth it vs staying near home for a testing job

frozen thistle
lunar sonnet
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email recruiter after seeing interesting posting , they interview me and itā€™s all a farce , for ex the eng interviewing me was Mickey af (complete noob) , the HM was also not the typical HM compared to all other stuff , and midway through they switched for random other role

clear needle
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salary is around $65-70k max for both rn

lunar sonnet
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if I had to guess they have some A/B or recruitment pipeline to test new stuff too etc. , or give new HMā€™s practice

clear needle
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like south bay area

grim ore
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tough call

lunar sonnet
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those ā€œWe are hiring! Building out a new team doing xyzā€¦ā€ -> email -> callback seems fake

lunar sonnet
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wtf

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once you do QA youā€™re cooked

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no one will care u have a CS degree

clear needle
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yeah i might have to do more of that

lunar sonnet
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or if you wanna do QA for the rest of your life and not challenge yourself sure do that

clear needle
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oh dang yeah that's what i'm scared abt too

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i've heard of ppl transitioning from qa to dev tho

lunar sonnet
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no

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cope

clear needle
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but idk how feasabile

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lol ok

lunar sonnet
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I mean

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theyā€™re coping

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or lying , itā€™s extremely sticky

clear needle
#

feels bad man

lunar sonnet
#

doing QA is fine and important if anyone doing it , only saying this cuz u have other options

grim ore
#

take sys eng role and live in tent

lunar sonnet
#

itā€™s also always in a shortage of talent and there can be eng involved , but itā€™ll just stick forever

grim ore
#

jk with 70k you should be fine with roommates

#

just be frugal

#

cook at home etc

clear needle
#

yea that sounds like the plan

#

thx guys

rain patio
crystal hollow
#

All the QA jobs I've seen around here are like $45k max

lunar sonnet
#

gov/consulting qa pays like 100k

#

starting

#

like for entry level at decent companies who donā€™t have lowball culture , swe and qa salary can look almost the same , like 10k less

#

maybe those days are over tho

modest rampart
#

so many pay 80-100k

torn stratus
#

has anyone done the meta second round virtual onsite for new grads?

violet topaz
#

wtf is a virtual onsite lmao

quartz wolf
#

Zoom call

violet topaz
#

wheres the onsite :0

torn stratus
#

i know its weird but that's what they called it LOL

grizzled bronze
#

weird companies do onsite in person

graceful crown
forest scarab
#

which defense companies are hiring rn?

lunar sonnet
#

defense is like completely untouched by everything happening lol

#

tax money always keeps coming in brrrrrr

#

no yahkuna in name

forest scarab
#

i thought defense started hiring fall already no?

pliant hamlet
half flicker
#

anyone heard about binary logic it llc?

teal birch
#

Is adding my projects to the work experience sections on company websites inane or should I just leave that to the resume (coming from someone with little truly relevant experience)

wind lake
#

will being a systems engineer be bad for my career

fallen fox
#

staying unemployed is worse

#

how technical is your syseng role? afaik a lot of syseng roles have lots of programming

wind lake
#

true šŸ’€

#

this one doesnt have much programming

#

its more of analyzing

#

and i need to relocate

fallen fox
#

i would take it tbh if you can survive somewhat okay with the pay

native mango
native mango
teal birch
#

i'm tired boss. done 4 assessments today šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø

wind lake
#

is it worth trying to negotiate in this economy

grizzled bronze
gray terrace
modest rampart
gray terrace
#

oh no

#

citizen

#

which have helped me get reffered to some gov jobs

#

but not converted to full time

hardy relic
#

cant wait for every company to hire in february, whoā€™s ready šŸ„³šŸ„³

violet topaz
violet topaz
hollow kelp
#

After ~ 10 interviews and could not get an offer, Iā€™m tired

elfin flint
native mango
lost ether
teal birch
coarse locust
#

Hmmmm

nova dagger
rain patio
fallen fox
bold pier
brave forge
blazing flame
rustic light
#

any alternative to gpt which writes code crazily for a given prompt ?

grizzled bronze
golden agate
violet topaz
#

instead of returning when u find a pair go thru whole list twice just for kicks and return first pair u find

ionic swan
#

how many of yall are still job searching ?

brave forge
#

it's jobover

ionic swan
#

i graduated last june , got a few contract projects but no one wants to hire me for a full time role šŸ˜©

#

applied to so many places already i lost count , got a few interview waiting to hear back from one rn but none of the others converted

pure mauve
#

Damn

#

Rip sees

#

Swe

ionic swan
#

im in canada and am international so that prolly can be a factor

lunar sonnet
#

obviously massive factor

#

not sure if youā€™re applying for remote roles too , those could be auto rej or impossible

ionic swan
#

im applying like all roles within canada hybrid remote or onsite but so far most have been rejections , few interviews i did get ended up in the role being put on hold currently waiting for reply from an interview call i had last week

lunar sonnet
#

yeah not sure how Canada visa laws work , technically could you only work part time roles or contract hires and stay in the country forever

ionic swan
#

i graduated from a canadian university so i have a post graduation work permit rn it allows me to work full time for any employer in canada

#

i gotta have a year of experience at a skilled job to be able to apply for citizenship as that helps me get more points , if i cant get enough points by the time my work permit expires in 2026 i gotta go back to my country

lunar sonnet
#

sounds very arbitrary , either way sounds flexible

#

temp or contract work could be fine right now

ionic swan
#

yes but most of my work rn is contract projects leaning more towards freelance for clients in my city

#

so the pay isnt regular and it prolly wont count towards the year of experience i need since its technicaly self employed , and that doesnt count unfortunately i need to be working for a company

wind lake
#

i have 3 days to accept an offer. would it be bad if i ask them for a bit more time?

short lark
grand spear
#

anyone did this weeks TikTok oa.

round lily
#

Anyone done datadog first technical and share what was on it? Trying to prepare

violet topaz
#

šŸ‡Æ ā­• šŸ…±ļø

crystal hollow
#

jesus christ fucking hackerrank

#

did a front end OA for IBM and the IDE took like 5 mins to install dependencies

#

then failed to install

#

had to turn it in without seeing what my CSS was doing lol

sour epoch
# bold pier

I used to work at chipotle as a cashier and they made me clean diarrhea out of a urinal

gloomy terrace
#

2 lc hards from doordash yay

mellow glade
brave forge
rain patio
gloomy terrace
#

Yeah with some help

#

One was binary path sum lol

fallen fox
mellow glade
#

IM NEVER GETTING A FUCKIMG TECH JOB AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

image0.jpg
crystal hollow
#

paycheck would be nice though

#

my job rn sucks and i make shit

gleaming trellis
crystal hollow
#

its all surface level wordpress and shopify

#

haven't written anything outside of leetcode in months

native mango
#

How are you coping up with no job ?

#

How is it going for you all?

sage skiff
native mango
#

šŸ˜¦

#

Are you international?

#

Applying in jobs is like waste of time. No interviews

#

Who are they hiring then?

#

If no one is getting interview?

#

-_-

#

Wtf

willow sedge
#

i got hired lol

#

took forever

lost ether
#

How long? kermit_think

native mango
#

How long is forever šŸ˜¦

cobalt lake
native mango
#

You guys getting OAs

#

xD

#

Wow xD

willow sedge
native mango
#

šŸ‘šŸ¼

native mango
elfin flint
native mango
#

Already 7 months for me

#

Close to 9 months now

elfin flint
#

I graduated in June so also 7 months

native mango
#

Okay

elfin flint
#

I'm gonna k m s sad_pepe_juice

rain patio
#

Any 2022 grads šŸ’€

grim ore
rain patio
#

Itā€™s rough

#

Iā€™m not getting any callbacks

#

Didnā€™t homies graduate December 2023

#

How are there no job openings

pliant hamlet
native mango
#

šŸ˜¦

#

I apply and only rejects or no reply

#

everything seems useless

#

What are you guys doing?

#

learning anything currently?

crystal hollow
golden agate
#

I learned that no matter how much I sleep, I'm still lethargic

native mango
#

Yes

crystal hollow
native mango
#

Sometimes at night I get anxious and wake up

golden agate
native mango
narrow harbor
narrow harbor
# native mango How are you coping up with no job ?

trying to convince myself that a job isn't tied to my self worth or start to my life and as long as I'm doing something everyday whether applying/lc/projects that I should be proud cause this shit is hard and eventually i'll land something

#

also 'clocking out' after job grinding and just enjoy other things in life

mellow glade
fallen fox
#

icims is dogshit

#

worse thant workday

crystal hollow
crystal hollow
crystal hollow
mellow glade
#

So minimum wage? šŸ’€ oof

crystal hollow
#

haha wow the minimum went up for 2024

#

so yeah i guess i'm also being paid less than the legal minimum salary now

golden agate
#

took like a 1.5 month off from leetcode. Getting back into it is like getting back into the gym lol. You just don't put up the same numbers

elfin flint
#

one of my friend just went back to school

#

for master

#

I think it's time for me

idle stump
#

Any body wants to go 50-50 on grokking design interview ?

tawdry nacelle
#

bruh I'm so mad I barely didn't finish WISE oa in time

#

I didn't finish the last question but had like 2 lines left

elfin flint
tawdry nacelle
#

first question took me like 10 min bc debugging

#

I hope I move to next round if they see I was barely not done with the last question

trail oasis
#

i passed tiktok two rounds, before hm, got mail saying role is on hold for now..is this reject or need to wait for sometime? Any one been with this situation?

fading zenith
#

Hey everyone, I start Amazon this month but I have an offer at Meta. These are the options I'm considering:
(1) Renege Amazon and join Meta
(2) Work at Amazon for 6-7 months, then quit to join Meta.

I honestly prefer the second option, but I don't know if asking for a later start date (August/September) would be too risky (i.e Meta rescinding offer).

Any advice?

eager crag
golden agate
#

tell them to hire me

rain patio
golden agate
#

I'd join meta as well tbh

fading zenith
rain patio
#

depends on what start date they give u

#

if its later then its risky, in this economy nothing is certain, so ull have to be prepared to lose it

#

1 is preferable

#

2 sounds good on paper but yeah u will never know. having offer now and starting is better than what might happen in the future

rain patio
sonic coral
#

Why would I know anything about meta

rain patio
#

meta follows G

fading zenith
shut mountain
#

i saw some chats in here talking about obtaining a masters

sonic coral
rain patio
grim ore
rain patio
#

theyre my friend

#

šŸ¤

#

kpop fans instant friend

tribal wigeon
#

suggest some good Korean movies

rain patio
#

parasite, train to busan

brave forge
#

didnt the lead actor in train to busan kill himself recently šŸ’€

hardy relic
rain patio
elfin flint
gleaming trellis
fading zenith
fading zenith
ebon summit
#

but unrealistic prob

fading zenith
#

Lame šŸ˜”

#

I just want monies

#

Or maybe I'll get PIP

tribal wigeon
# elfin flint solo leveling

Thank you. Everyone knows about it. I think It is Manhwa and the anime version is ongoing. I am looking for a movie. I thought a bunch of kpop fans might recommend something good

ebon summit
#

iirc

violet topaz
#

šŸ‡Æ šŸ…¾ļø šŸ…±ļø

tribal wigeon
native mango
#

Inspirational šŸ˜„

native mango
native mango
#

Loved the words!

#

šŸ˜„

golden agate
azure depot
rustic oyster
#

hey all, i just graduated in dec 2023. Noteven a single interview till date. How are you guys handling this?? any tipss

gloomy terrace
rustic oyster
#

@compact holly I graduated from my masters

#

I keep applying for jobs, study a bjt n thats it

#

I follow 2 github repos, simplify n levels.fyi website

#

You guys have any suggestions for where to find new grad roles??

rustic oyster
#

Iā€™m an international student

#

I never looked for contract roles. Thanks for the suggestion

red heath
#

@dim cosmos im back bro

#

comeback szn rn

fallen fox
#

@rain patio WazowskiStare

grim ore
#

@fallen fox @rain patio WazowskiStare

elfin flint
#

And we're expiring

gleaming trellis
elfin flint
rustic oyster
#

noo its 23 grad šŸ˜‚

unkempt lagoon
#

What is the interview process at

tawdry nacelle
fallen fox
#

"After careful deliberation, we have reevaluated the needs of the department and we regret to inform you that the position has been cancelled."

rain patio
pliant hamlet
polar grail
#

"Looking for entry-level positions can be exciting and stressful, especially if you donā€™t know where you stand. We believe it is important to get back to you quickly. After reviewing all resumes, we are considering other candidates for this position at this time" 3-4 month later

trail oasis
#

Company?

polar grail
ionic swan
#

istg the last 2 interviews ive had the company put hiring on hold for who knows till when

peak comet
#

did you tell them you already accepted?

#

say no you havnt accepted just have an offer expiring on x day but you wanna talk to msft since xyz interests you about the role

#

if you tell them youve already accepted an offer they wont interview you

#

so if you want to interview you gotta not mention it

#

but they also might be sus if you say you declined an offer so idk lol

ebon summit
#

@rain patio from what I understand from how they're doing it

#

it's happening in superday events

#

and the next one isn't for a bit cause I think they filled up for the earilest one

#

I'm saying, I dont think you'll interview for another month or so

#

and any company prob won't wait is all

#

also rule of thumb

#

if a company asks what processes you are in and you would rather have them

#

just say

#

"I'm not in any atm" and just accept/rengage on the other company if you get it

quiet copper
#

hey guys do u know what the first interview for a nvidia swe position entails? they said they want to schedule a technical video interview so is that just gonna be leetcode right off the bat?

trail oasis
#

anyone did HPE interview for swe role?

violet topaz
#

šŸ‡Æ šŸ…¾ļø šŸ…±ļø

left edge
#

When does this channel get archived?

red heath
#

2023 grad will never archieved

#

long live 2023 grads salute

rain patio
pliant hamlet
split igloo
red heath
#

ddog give offer

obsidian crater
#

Watch out, it goes to a .ru link

hardy cypress
#

It's kinda dishearting checking in this channel a few months later and seeing a lot of familiar names sadge

...we are all gonna make it guys

grim ore
#

@tardy geode

crystal hollow
#

is there a location channel for socal or is #bay_area just all of california

eager crag
#

yes

#

strat is maybe can actually get past a fking NG resume screen after working 6 months FT

pine topaz
#

i miss u

crystal hollow
#

Bombed the OA for a front-end role with IBM but I got another OA for a back-end role

#

and the coding question was the same

#

passed all test cases feelsgoodman.png

untold fjord
#

are IT consulting companies bad? i got OA from beaconfire but idk should I do it?

fallen fox
#

I worked at beaconfire for 1 day šŸ’€

#

dont do it šŸ’€

untold fjord
#

what if im desparate šŸ’€

fallen fox
#

still no šŸ’€

untold fjord
#

"Anna" did message me šŸ’€

#

But how ur exp though

fallen fox
#

they were chill

#

but i left after just a few hours so I cant really say what theyre really like šŸ’€

grim ore
untold fjord
#

make senses. Dude in the reddit post seems to see it all. At first I was checking glassdoor and indeed review it seems good until I search on reddit and so

grim ore
#

just show up on day 1, introduce yourself, resign and leave? KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

fallen fox
#

i didnt even resign just ghosted them

grim ore
#

did you see it was a scam and just peaced out

fallen fox
#

Yeah pretty much

lost ether
#

Do they make u pay to work? WazowskiStare

fallen fox
#

Nah they pay you but theyre sus af

mellow glade
mellow glade
pure mauve
#

pip seaon boi

#

bois

rain patio
tardy geode
#

@grim ore @pine topaz wazzz

grim ore
#

how are you doing my brother

tardy geode
grim ore
violet topaz
hardy cypress
#

Had one of those "well train you in 10 weeks so you can get hired" jobs again. These people are ruthless lol

wind lake
#

are there any downsides of asking the recruiter if they can expedite on offer decision due to a competing offer?

#

like would they potentially not want to give me an offer?

glass apex
# wind lake like would they potentially not want to give me an offer?

If you highlight how doing this would benefit them, then the chances are lower.

Example: hi x, I recently got an offer from another company for a full-time role, and the deadline is the end of this week. However, I really wanted to make this work out at Z - I'm really interested in working on Y and really liked the team that I'd potentially be working with. Would you be able to expedite the offer decision for Z? I would really appreciate that!

If the recruiter still thinks they have a chance of hiring you, they'll usually try to accommodate.

#

If both companies are big N, then you can mention the other company's name

#

If you want to. Makes you look more appealing as a candidate I would think

ebon summit
grizzled bronze
tardy geode
tardy geode
sweet plank
pine topaz
#

hi @tardy geode hopefully life is treating you well ā¤ļø

pine topaz
violet topaz
#

job market opening up tomorrow. hopium

cloud zinc
#

swearsies?

violet topaz
#

i don't swear sorry

left edge
#

Pinkie swearsies?

violet topaz
#

thinking of just applying to early career job at FAANG in india work there for a year and internally transfer back to the states ASAP. i saw at least google and amazon hiring more over there than here

left edge
#

Are you from there?

ebon summit
rain patio
tardy geode
fallen fox
slender axle
#

Has anyone seen any significant roles posted within the last month at all?

#

I havenā€™t seen pretty much anything

lunar sonnet
#

nothing big tech

#

all gov , defense , startups

#

feel thereā€™s a lot more actual eng jobs but might just be sample bias , but seeing a lot more of core eng swe and less prestigious crud and app dev

left edge
#

Whats wrong with defense?

lost ether
#

Need citizenship for clearance-able sometimes

left edge
#

Ah fair enough

#

Are a lot of the people here international?

lunar sonnet
#

thereā€™s a lot

fossil jewel
#

whats prestigious tho?

lunar sonnet
lunar sonnet
fossil jewel
#

if not faang what is prestigious?

lunar sonnet
#

anything with the concept of of RSUā€™s and vesting 4KEKW

fossil jewel
#

in terms of work i mean

lunar sonnet
#

thereā€™s nerdy stuff and prestigious stuff , embedded is nerdy but

#

high performance c++ is prestigious

fossil jewel
#

embedded kinda hard to come by

lunar sonnet
#

writing the internal libs etc

fossil jewel
#

in cities

lunar sonnet
#

true that

#

Iā€™m seeing quite a lot of demand for embedded tho

fossil jewel
#

like i could've went embedded route bc of my background but its all in middle of nowhere

lunar sonnet
#

Yeah for sure

#

I think Cali has them

fossil jewel
#

infra seems interesting tbh

#

issue is cali KEK

#

east coast best coast

lunar sonnet
#

yeah im seeing the embedded kind of infra roles too a lot

#

which is why I said core eng

#

like ml platform swe , networking focused swe , etc

#

I guess itā€™s crud still but the jobs seem to be for that

#

itā€™s the only thing they canā€™t outsource lol

left edge
#

East coast šŸ¤©

fossil jewel
#

yeah in house infra

#

esp creating good scalable infra

lunar sonnet
#

yeah

#

like geico is hiring a shitton cuz theyā€™re redoing their entire infra

#

so need tons of people

#

and itā€™s always running and huge cost driver

#

the reality ends up being they just need kube ppl lol which is complete rope and relatively gatekeepy too

fossil jewel
#

yeah kube is cool tho

lunar sonnet
#

itā€™s deff cool but big tech vs securing those jobs is like the completely opposite approach , one will focus on leetcode and fundamentals

#

other one literally tests how much experience u have with specific k8ā€™s tooling

#

every k8 based interview Iā€™ve ever done they want ppl comfortable with the tooling and specific ways of doing things so much rng

left edge
#

What happens in a few years when theres not a ton of mid level devs if a lot of entry level are having trouble breaking in rn

lunar sonnet
#

people have always had trouble breaking in , now ppl just openly talk about it

left edge
#

I feel like the past year has been objectively worse though

languid rock
lunar sonnet
#

yeah leagues worse lol never been this bad

languid rock
#

šŸ˜…

lunar sonnet
#

itā€™s probably not that much harder to ā€œbreak inā€

#

compared to 2022 or maybe 2021 , like I think if someone isnā€™t getting any interviews now it wouldā€™ve been the same before

left edge
#

Theres always a ton more graduates as well

ebon summit
#

that's the problem with stuff like this

#

rn it sucks

#

in a few years

#

you'll be worth gold

pine topaz
#

who invented the economy

#

this is all manafactured problems

#

just give me money

left edge
#

In exchange for funny words on computer

pine topaz
#

@lunar sonnet did u land anything yet sad_cowboy

#

if u cant land anything its actualy joever

lunar sonnet
pine topaz
#

waht was ur itnerview to app rate

lunar sonnet
#

but Iā€™ve decided Iā€™m not gonna do that

#

donā€™t rly count

#

but Iā€™d say I apply 10-20 times every week

left edge
#

Wdym by gov and bank safety?

lunar sonnet
#

and I get maybe 3-4 interviews

pine topaz
#

ur getting a 4;20 ratio?

lunar sonnet
pine topaz
left edge
#

1:5 is good wtf

pine topaz
#

the difference is @lunar sonnet is not an entry or ng

left edge
#

Ah

#

Poser smh?

pine topaz
#

u sitll have ur job

lunar sonnet
#

I think Iā€™m not that far out lol to a lot of ppl here , I just act like Iā€™m a senior

#

or only apply to those roles

left edge
#

When did you graduate?

lunar sonnet
#

also yea Iā€™m gapped in other ways

#

if I had a good school

#

or any degree 4KEKW it would be 1000x easier

left edge
#

Ah

lunar sonnet
#

itā€™s not a good underdog market

left edge
#

People from this channel in may?

steep cove
forest scarab
#

any jobs????

golden agate
#

Thoughts on going to my university's stem fair a year after graduating? lol

forest scarab
rustic light
#

Is wiley edge a Consultant company...
will we come under their payroll or not

fossil jewel
#

like pearson, mcgrawhill etc

#

wait

#

i could;ve sworn i used something called wiley

rustic light
#

is it mandatory to know french

fossil jewel
#

oh wiley plus

image.png
rustic light
fossil jewel
#

i think its two diff companies?

rustic light
# fossil jewel dude idk

"Thank you again for your interest in Wiley Edge. As a reminder, please ensure you complete our HireVue assessment as soon as possible. You should have received an email from HireVue with a link to the assessment and full instructions.

Once this has been completed successfully, I would love to set up our next interview.

If you need adjustments during the recruitment process and beyond, please contact me to discuss the options available to you. All conversations will be confidential and will never directly impact your application with us. "

fossil jewel
#

i mean might as well do it

#

ah yeah it's the same company

#

they just have different products ig

rustic light
fossil jewel
rustic light
#

lol okay

cloud zinc
bold pier
#

@marble ivy can just rename and use the same clip

#

Like seriously? hmmge

#

They got jobs yeah lol

#

You already a citizen, why waste 100k

#

Just put Java on resume and NYC as location

#

New Jersey is banned

#

No one does, that's the beauty of this language