2023_grads

[prisma flax]

Cash is the way to go if they are small companies

[shut crescent]

ive seen people dangle their shit from their balcony LOL

[chilly burrow]

Tru

[shut crescent]

bro i shit u not this asian guy was charging from his balcony

funnniest shit ever

[ornate cliff]

~electricity~ costs in cali are wild

[shut crescent]

it looked so goofy

[teal jackal]

I don't need a super-fancy car anymore.
I think I'm just gonna get an Elantra N, and put the rest of my savings towards saving for a home.

[shut crescent]

idk how tf that wire even reached his shit

[prisma flax]

Texas is worst 😂😂

[ornate cliff]

all that for 5% charge overnight 💀

[teal jackal]

Seattle proper isn't expensive, Bellevue and Redmond are NUTS though

Austin TX is high-MCOL nowadays

I hope to move there long run

[shut crescent]

no lol u can get 1000V

it charges full within hours

like 5 hours

[ornate cliff]

Texas has those things where crazy white people have one bad day so they go to walmart, buy an AR, step outside, and just mow people down

you can buy rifles in LA?

nice

omw

LOL nah cali doesn't have mass shootings like that tho

Texas is top fragging atm

[prisma flax]

Texas col has increased and salary low af

[ornate cliff]

💀

[prisma flax]

Wtf 😂

[shut crescent]

yall think this looks fire

[prisma flax]

U actually had me in first half

[teal jackal]

is this your ride?

how much did u put into mods?

[ornate cliff]

that looks sick

[shut crescent]

naw this isnt mine i dont mod my subie lmfao

[teal jackal]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0700/0883/2298/products/18e8fcaa-fa71-4847-9202-49135b533720__40366.1665270313.1280.1280_900x.jpg?v=1673018762

[ornate cliff]

kinda too tokyo drifty for me

[teal jackal]

this is my dream car

[ornate cliff]

but still sick

[ornate cliff]

LOL nah

this aint it

[teal jackal]

how tf aint this it?

35k for an electronically-controlled LSD and 276hp

hard pressed for a better bargain tbh

[ornate cliff]

it's an elantra I can't take it serious

[teal jackal]

aite fam

[ornate cliff]

this is actually fire ngl

new prius look nice af

[shut crescent]

this is my ride

[teal jackal]

They should make a Prius GR with really good handling and turbo/electric hybrid power

[shut crescent]

i dont mod it

i only have tints on it

[teal jackal]

i'd get a prius gr

[prisma flax]

MPG?

[ornate cliff]

we gone talk about the rarri in the back or?

👀

[shut crescent]

that is not my garage lmfao

thats where i tinted my shit

[ornate cliff]

oh LOL

I was like damn he owns every townhouse in LA and has a ferarri

[shut crescent]

fuck no

i wish

i dont think i will ever spend that much money on a car

[teal jackal]

my neighbor bought an r32 GTR in 2019, and that shit grew fast in value. also a car where modding to some extent doesn't tank resale.
that car has better returns than many index funds

[prisma flax]

Max am gonna spend is 10% of my yearly income

[teal jackal]

but my neighbor is lucky, kid lives at home and has supportive parents who even have a garage with a lift set up for him

[shut crescent]

i spent $36k for that car in 2017 7 year warranty

[ornate cliff]

how fkn sick are these tho

[shut crescent]

bumper to bumper

[teal jackal]

🐐

this will make EVs exciting tbh

[shut crescent]

what is that

[ornate cliff]

hydrogen is OP

[ornate cliff]

Hyundai N Vision

[prisma flax]

Dude if am in your place am not gonna buy a car till 2026 or 2027

[teal jackal]

I'm renting a GR86 this sunday

[teal jackal]

why that long?

[shut crescent]

yeah ive kept my subie for 6 years now only put 35k miles on it

[ornate cliff]

what are you gonna do in LA... take the bus that comes once an hour?

[shut crescent]

i plan to keep it for another 3-4 years before upgrading

[ornate cliff]

[shut crescent]

i bought it for $36k and i can still sell it for around $23-$24k today

[teal jackal]

nah imma hear naruto out

[ornate cliff]

2nd gen?

[prisma flax]

I was talking about his car, i feel like new car can be driven for 9 to 10 years

[teal jackal]

yeah, with manual trans

[ornate cliff]

sickkkkkkk

[shut crescent]

dude the used car market was so insane a few months back i couldve sold this shit for $29k

i should have

[teal jackal]

ohhh, yeah you mean if you already have a car you're in zero rush to get another one
true

[teal jackal]

what would you drive instead? nothing? which is valid

[shut crescent]

well im remote

prob my parents model 3

[prisma flax]

Gonna walk?

[shut crescent]

im thinking of selling this shit for 23k and buying a model y

[prisma flax]

Damn sell and get a new one if you could wait

[teal jackal]

why tesla? i dont think good idea if you dont drive much

[prisma flax]

Tesla doesn’t make sense if your not racking the miles

[shut crescent]

for no reason

[teal jackal]

my parents have an infiniti q30 and highlander, both are good cars

[teal jackal]

terrible idea, keep saving that money

[shut crescent]

yeah lmao i might wait on it

[prisma flax]

He owns all of bay 😂

[shut crescent]

i think tesla is going to have to come out with better shit too like revamping its interior

[teal jackal]

tesla interior doesn't even hold a candle to a camry

[shut crescent]

i dont own shit its all my parents haha

i might get an apartment under my name soon tho

[teal jackal]

tesla interiors are straight up full of hard plastics and crappy vinyl seats but at least there's a funny middle screen

[shut crescent]

that would give me like +$19500 to my total comp haha

[prisma flax]

If tesla starts selling again for 35k i might get it

Damn thats some serious prob

[shut crescent]

really wtf

[teal jackal]

that aint coming

[shut crescent]

what model?

year my bad

[teal jackal]

elon knows people will still be coming at the 40k price

[shut crescent]

wtf LOL

naw ur trolling

[ornate cliff]

Tesla only good for dry whether

[shut crescent]

no way bruh

[ornate cliff]

Driving it up here in Canada is awful

[shut crescent]

that squirrel made u guys lose thousands bro

did that shit die atleast

okay bet

yeah the fucker shouldve known

[teal jackal]

ive heard of bumpers falling off due to puddles being too big

this was early model 3s

like 2019 or so

[ornate cliff]

Tesla QC is so shit it's hilarious

[shut crescent]

yeah dude have u guys felt the quality of the interior of a tesla before

[ornate cliff]

You can fit a whole subway between some of them panels

[shut crescent]

all the alignments of the panels are fucked too

[teal jackal]

I think it's just a fremont factory problem

[shut crescent]

on delivery day i legit had to call them cuz the panels were fucked

doors werent closing properly

[prisma flax]

Try rivian but they are expensive af

[shut crescent]

huge issue these little shits have going on

[teal jackal]

tesla's fremont factory has some of the most atrocious manufacturing practices on earth,

[shut crescent]

bruh for real

dude

[ornate cliff]

LOL they say teslas coming out of china factory is actually built well

[shut crescent]

they dont even let u pick up ur tesla

they charge u like $1500

for 5 mile drive

[teal jackal]

I think German built teslas will be really good

[shut crescent]

fuck tesla dude

piece of shits

[prisma flax]

For this reason tesla is out of car list

[shut crescent]

naw fuck bmw too

[teal jackal]

might be a match made in heaven of German manufacturing standards and American tech

[shut crescent]

never buy a used bmw

[prisma flax]

After i get old i would get a volvo

[teal jackal]

heated seat subscription ahh automaker

[shut crescent]

youll rip ur cock off

[prisma flax]

Expensive shit to get it repair

[shut crescent]

bro my cousin bought a fucked up mercedes for $18k and had to put $10k repairs into it

shit didnt even go 20k miles

[teal jackal]

what model?

[shut crescent]

its a old ass red mercedes

who the fuck knows

[teal jackal]

I've seen idiots buy used V12 S classes for 20k thinking they got the bargain of the century

[ornate cliff]

the new bmw are soooooooooooooooo fucking ugly

bro BMW infotainment is straight windows XP vibes

[prisma flax]

Bmw are confier than similar range models

[shut crescent]

i just stick to japanense cars tbh

[ornate cliff]

🦫

[shut crescent]

my subie has caused 0 problems for me in the last 6 years

i love japan

[teal jackal]

the kidney grille is an acquired taste, it looks less bad over time

[ornate cliff]

oh my god the infotainment is so fkn bad otherwise a literal 10/10

[teal jackal]

i heard that subarus go to shit if you drive them too hard

[shut crescent]

taycans are so fuckin nice dude

[teal jackal]

like track days, or tuning

[prisma flax]

For ev try rivian

[shut crescent]

never tried i dont race that shit or mod it

[teal jackal]

i think subaru reliability is decent for normie drivers, but subarus don't really enjoy track days i heard

[shut crescent]

i drive on s# mode very rarely

[ornate cliff]

if they bring their prices down ya im down

[shut crescent]

mine is a cvt too

[teal jackal]

boxer design not good for oil temps

i believe

and oil distribution

[shut crescent]

i heart cvts fuck up quickly but mine has caused no problems so far

had it for 6 years

but only 35k miles

so who knows

[teal jackal]

i think nissan gives CVTs a bad name

[prisma flax]

Nissan transmission are mostly shit

[teal jackal]

people cringe at the world CVT because nissan ones are just that bad, yet nissan continues to use them

[shut crescent]

ima prob sell it in like 2-3 years anyways

i dont even drive this shit anymore

i just whip around model 3

[ornate cliff]

my mom has a nissan cvt and it makes my ears bleed

[teal jackal]

they should just shutter jatco, take the L, and outsource their automatic trans from ZF

[prisma flax]

Cvt in general are good

I never heard problems from different makers

[teal jackal]

yeah exactly

[shut crescent]

i bought cvt cuz there is no way im shifting in traffic ruh

[teal jackal]

GM CVTs are alright too

[shut crescent]

bay area manual is not it

[teal jackal]

the chevy malibu isnt a fast car, but boy is it fuel efficient and easy to drive

i rented one before

I would never buy one since a camry or sonata is nicer for the price

but the malibu is surprisingly smooth

[prisma flax]

Should get some semi electric vechiles for better eco

[shut crescent]

would yall ever cop a supra

[teal jackal]

hybrid drivetrains are pretty popular nowadays

[teal jackal]

nah, cant justify a 2 seater tbh

[ornate cliff]

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ❤️

[shut crescent]

man these are so fun to drive tho...

[teal jackal]

the supra is a track monster though

[prisma flax]

Ya rented a toyota some hybrid car and it gave us 40-50 mpg

[ornate cliff]

I'm still trying to figure what toyota's contribution was to that thing LMAO

it's literally 99% BMW

[shut crescent]

i drove this shit in the hills over in turtle rock near irvine

[teal jackal]

styling and some chassis tuning i believe

[shut crescent]

shit ws sooooo fun

[teal jackal]

toyota got to customize the chassis config on their version of the supra

[prisma flax]

Toyota makes their engine to last forever

[shut crescent]

i want to drive a porsche gt3rs in some hills

[pulsar mural]

yo

[teal jackal]

I wouldn't knock the current gen i6 from BMW, they're mighty reliable

[shut crescent]

dream car for sure

one day boys

[ornate cliff]

Yep that's the end game

100%

[teal jackal]

I hope so friend

not sure what my endgame car is

Tbh we also have to take into account that you don't know how much longer internal combustion will be in production

once ICE is canned, our dream cars will get harder to buy on the used market

though I think porsche and BMW are planning on holding out and continuing to build ICE forever, they even lobbied the EU successfully to permit cars powered by synthetic gas

[prisma flax]

I would get a gas and manual, idk if they gonna be regulated

[teal jackal]

that's why I want an Elantra N

[prisma flax]

At least this decade gonna be the last of this

[teal jackal]

it might be front wheel drive but it handles damn good for one

[prisma flax]

Ya elentra is pretty good

Best of both worlds

[teal jackal]

honestly I'm going to quit daydreaming about fancy cars

[shut crescent]

bro the p1's tho

[teal jackal]

I'm just gonna buy an Elantra N for my first car

[shut crescent]

i saw one of these on the road one time near costa mesa

[teal jackal]

Still need to save money elsewhere

[shut crescent]

shit was loud asfff

i was blasting music in my car and i heard this shit still

[teal jackal]

I saw a porsche GT3RS in vancouver, that bitch is LOUD if you rev it

[shut crescent]

yeah gt3rs are nice asf

these rich ass international students had so many of them at my uni

[prisma flax]

I would get some shit which has high mpg and low cost

[teal jackal]

Chinese students have the drippiest cars tbh

[shut crescent]

bro if ur buying a 300-500k car

[teal jackal]

hot damn

[shut crescent]

i dont think u care about mpg

lmfaoo

[teal jackal]

Tbh if i had a 300k budget Idk what I'd get
maybe a huracan

[shut crescent]

300k is crazy tho

570 would be nice too

[teal jackal]

I think a BMW M2(current pug face gen) is my foreseeable future dream car

[shut crescent]

only 190k bro

[teal jackal]

I just that they'll make the M2 until 2028-2029 or so

[prisma flax]

Lmao i would get a mc20

[teal jackal]

need to buy home first

[teal jackal]

targa top?

[shut crescent]

dunno wtf it is

[prisma flax]

I was talking about my first car

[shut crescent]

spaceship top apparently

[teal jackal]

what might u want

[shut crescent]

mclarens are so nice bruh

id def buy this instead of a lambo

[teal jackal]

mclaren is under the radar, a lot of non car people have never heard of the brand

[shut crescent]

even a ferarri tbh

[teal jackal]

some people like it that way

[shut crescent]

thats good

keep them away

[teal jackal]

yeah that's valid

[prisma flax]

😂 why?

[shut crescent]

bruh

[teal jackal]

gatekeeping makes fun things funner tbh

[shut crescent]

imagine winning the lottery

[prisma flax]

I thought most of them knew a thing or two about them

[prisma flax]

I would flip that instant lmao

[teal jackal]

I feel like I want to build wealth, might play startup ipo lottery for a while

tbh

if something pans out that would be sick

[shut crescent]

ye its def the play

i wanted to get rippling so bad

failed the final tho lmfaoo

i failed spacex too

[prisma flax]

Bro invest in other countries startups

[shut crescent]

taking big Ls

[ornate cliff]

so you wanna play pretend VC? risky af lol

[prisma flax]

Where the investment is low and returns potential is insane

[shut crescent]

without risk there is no generational wealth tbh

[teal jackal]

i guess more like being an IC engineer in a more established startup

[ornate cliff]

you can become millionaire on S&P tbh

[teal jackal]

startup with at least a round or two of funding

[prisma flax]

I would do that shit fr

[shut crescent]

yeah no loll

my uncle put 400k into tesla at ATH

[ornate cliff]

yeah I wanna do that do... like discord/reddit/ramp type of vibe

I choked ramp interview I'm still crying about it

[shut crescent]

hes down like 280k i think rn

[teal jackal]

FUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK I JUST DIED IN RUNESCAPE

[pulsar mural]

good

very good

[teal jackal]

I'm afking slayer and letting autoretaliate/aggro do the afk work of killing npcs for me

and i forgot to heal up

[shut crescent]

damn i havent touched runescape in so long bruh

[prisma flax]

Bro take job in big tech and spend ur salary in investing and time in advising ( can do that after reaching a certain stage)

[shut crescent]

not that long but like a year

i cant believe i maxed out my combat stats on that game

[teal jackal]

tbh nowadays I don't have the attention span to play something like csgo or valorant anymore

osrs is easier for me since you can pick it up and drop it off any time

[shut crescent]

i have a bil on that game

i should sell it

isnt it worth like $1k or something

[teal jackal]

real world trading chad

yeah

[shut crescent]

my brother sold $14k worth of gp on rs3

[teal jackal]

rwt market is nuts

[ornate cliff]

bro add me on valo I'm almost diamond 😭

[teal jackal]

why are so many people diamond in val

[ornate cliff]

i been hardstuck plat for a year

[shut crescent]

i never got into valorant but i was super into CS lmfao

global and i used to esea/faceit

[teal jackal]

why does everyone have diamond/plat it seems like

[shut crescent]

wasted so many hours on gaming bruh

imagine i coded that many hours

id be launching rockets next to elons big ass chest

[teal jackal]

tbf i see esports like playing real sports in your free time like soccer

it isn't going to make you rich but you do it for fun and to build character

but at least sports are healthy

[teal jackal]

how hard is valorant

[ornate cliff]

not that hard... getting to plat 3 is all game sense

diamond is where I keep getting one tapped

i'm also solo queuing which is a nightmare

[teal jackal]

why is valorant easier than csgo

csgo hardstuck at gold nova or silver is much more common

[ornate cliff]

gold nova is basically plat

right in the middle

most people are gold/plat in valo

[teal jackal]

ah, so valorant creates a wider range with regards to the lower ranks

why do iron/bronze/silver exist in valorant then

[ornate cliff]

kinda ya

[teal jackal]

in csgo its just silver

[teal jackal]

i never made it that far in fps games because i didnt put in the effort to practice meaningfully

or develop technique

[shut crescent]

@teal jackal do u know odablock

[teal jackal]

nope

[shut crescent]

really

search one of his videos up

hilarious

[ornate cliff]

damn I missed out

lol this is wild

[teal jackal]

damn the technique in osrs pvp is insane

[teal jackal]

i just stay out of it nowadays, if you feel fomo then it's already too late

[ornate cliff]

good lessons for the next market crash in 10 years 💀

[opal iron]

What’s snap/Snapchat full time Interview loop like?

[tacit grove]

their new-grad role came out - I'm only seeing 3+ yoe roles?

[tacit grove]

I interviewed a year ago with them and it was standard lc for the phone

[opal iron]

I’m asking for a friend lol

[opal iron]

Ah dyk anything about the final 5 hour loop?

[serene nymph]

for block's application, do you have to submit your score using the same email?

the same email you applied with?*

[tacit grove]

No, just did the phone and haven't heard anything about the 5 hour loop

[opal iron]

Tyty

[wispy mason]

Guys, any luck with jobs. I'm starting to lose hope

[sour spindle]

Esri SDE (Devops) versus Barclays (Developer Analyst) I got offers from both? Compensation just a difference of 9k. I’m just confused over what to go for. I am more inclined towards Esri. Any inputs will be appreciated.

[autumn jolt]

I've lost motivation to apply for jobs. Gave couple of interviews, haven't heard back. Horrible time of my life. At this point I'm thinking about taking consultancy route. Does anyone know of legit consultancies e-verified?

[fair leaf]

where r u guys finding entry level jobs to apply for? I feel like i've applied to every single one on linked in and its only like 85 jobs

[rain patio]

what is a developer analyst?

whats your day-to-day like

also whats the COL for both?

[dusky tapir]

Go to companies’ physical office and hand in ur resume. If you wanna win the lottery you’ve to make enough to buy a ticket

[timber rock]

if you wanna do devops then esri, otherwise barclays

i would do barclays

[noble horizon]

Me too. New grad jobs for 2024 opening up soon that’s my only hope

[frank wedge]

OA/Phone -> 5 round onsite including system design

[azure zephyr]

do yall think its worth putting money into nvidia now?

[brave forge]

no

if it goes down at all your screwed

and theres not much chance it just rockets up to $500 in the next months

[azure zephyr]

yeah thats what i thought. its so funny bc a week ago i was like maybe i should buy nvidia stock...shouldve listened to my gut lol

[viscid jacinth]

No overvalued at almost 1T market cap, currently trading at 70x next year EBITDA

[viscid jacinth]

It was the easiest play ever honestly pissed at myself too

[brave forge]

i dont have any money as a broke 2023 grad so i didnt miss anything

[ornate cliff]

Too late

[grizzled bronze]

Could you share the salary for each role? Just curious

[grizzled bronze]

NVIDIA hiring for new grad 2024 confirmed

[iron lily]

if anyone's still looking, Charles Schwab is hiring new grad data engineers and SREs

https://www.schwabjobs.com/job/-/-/33727/49278784976?utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_medium=job_posting&utm_campaign=Annual_Media&utm_content=social_media&utm_term=358106005&ss=paid&dclid=CJ7F5-yOlv8CFcm2wAodPdAJoA

https://www.schwabjobs.com/job/-/-/33727/49278785856?utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_medium=job_posting&utm_campaign=Annual_Media&utm_content=social_media&utm_term=358106005&ss=paid&dclid=CKuXiKCPlv8CFRG6wAodHLgJ6A

[grizzled bronze]

Is this confirmed by a recruiter or did you just come across the listings? I'll still apply anyway, thanks!

[opal iron]

Oh shit, can I get more info on that? Is it hardcore system design or more on how you think? And how about other rounds?

Also are the interviews standards across the board or different based on team/role

[iron lily]

just came across the listings

[storm echo]

does it allow internationals ?

[fallen fox]

no they dont sponsor for entry level

[brave forge]

nvidia new grad is hella hard. They want masters or phd and very good math skills and good knowledge in graphics API's like Vulkan and OpenGL

[storm echo]

I started learning OpenGL 🙂

but I never had a response back for those roles

[brave forge]

i also did a while back. Learnopengl book is very fun

[opal iron]

It’s the snapup apprenticeship

[grizzled bronze]

Isn't that for non-CS students / students with no CS internships?

Limited to no relevant internship experience
https://www.builtinla.com/job/engineer/2023-software-engineer-snap-apprentice/131633

How'd you pass resume screening for that @opal iron ?

[opal iron]

It’s for a friend lol

[obsidian crater]

no

Because if you graduate, employers expect you to get a full time job.

[brave forge]

ya it does, if u plan on doing the masters the main point is to get as much experience through internships as possible

hmm thinking about your situation, it's a tough choice. You have SoFi intern or this full time offer, but you dont actually want to go for masters although you have a masters offer. Hmm ya that is a good plan, it's just a few month so ask them if you can start later

[rain patio]

u can pt a masters and apply for FT roles

while applying for interns

if u get FT just have fun with the MS anyways FT SWE + OMSCS is a common thing ig

ahh damn okay

yeah MS is very reasonable then

in general FT >>> Internships usually (exception::: intern at DeepMind vs Test Engineer at Joe's Crab Shack)

so they'll sponsor?

Yeah I am kind of in the dark here, you got two FT offers?

Is it Pure?

Gotchu yeah that's a tough decision ngl

Maybe someone else can weigh in

[ornate cliff]

Internships don't count for YOE and return offers are not guaranteed

Go ft

[teal jackal]

actually maybe, it accelerates your prestige potential as a new grad

[rain patio]

that's what I'd try tbh

I am actually surprised you were given a summer intern after you graduated

[ornate cliff]

What's the point of pushing? Hoping you'll land another FT?

[rain patio]

Are either remote

Cuz onboarding is usually pretty chill lol

yeah probably more prudent to wait for the info cuz any advice u would get would be existential at best rn

afaik plenty of ft roles recruit months in advance of the actual start date

[ornate cliff]

Take the FT then renege if you get something else? At this point I don't see the value of internships?

Unless there's a high chance of return

Is sofi ft or intern

Ft swe > intern swe

[cloud zinc]

what does "advised" user mean if you are a linux OS user

[grizzled bronze]

I would try asking now, worse they can say is no

Oh I was assuming you already have an offer. Then there's no point in thinking this much about this unless you get it.

[ornate cliff]

i would take internship over this.. this aint swe

yah I would take internship

it wont even count towards SWE YOE

[grizzled bronze]

Do you know the intern conversion rate for SoFi?

I'd be more inclined towards SoFi, but I can afford it even if it doesn't result in a return offer. Not everyone can though.

[ornate cliff]

holy fuck

1000000000%

I mean Google internship vs Accenture FT

yeah

[distant pebble]

i think internship at good company, usually higher ev than just ft at meh company

[shadow pecan]

i don't completely hate school myself lol

it technically is when it comes to promotions however it takes time for it to settle in

wait why am i here

[distant pebble]

i mean i think it depends tho, like good internships usually pay more and also can help raise ur floor when looking at stuff like new grad salary

[shut crescent]

in this type of market hell yeah

[distant pebble]

i think international is bit diff cuz cant be picky for hb1 visa

[shadow pecan]

there's defense contractors

which pay better than accenture and are not bad

[distant pebble]

gothca
im prob a bit biased tho cuz im in rel privileged position rn

[shadow pecan]

true

[distant pebble]

i think international is just rough in general cuz a lot of smaller companies r prob not willing to sponsor

yeah, i got an offer for oliver wyman this summer and they paid rel well and seemed to decent comp ft

[teal jackal]

is this a meme or serious

[distant pebble]

i think the work pays well but def less interesting imo, same w investment banking

[shadow pecan]

this is some shit my high school would do

[distant pebble]

yeah i did one internship, w a lot of data analytics involved and it was so boring

[shadow pecan]

CRUD

[distant pebble]

i mean on the bright side tho, if there are layoffs u will be the one doing the firing

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-walk-happy-gif-15323470

[tacit grove]

omg arthur! watched this everyday back in elementary 😭 yeah the above attachment literally feels as though the intro of arthur was typed out

[shut crescent]

should i do meng berkeley bro

i think i can manage doing it and my current job tbh

so whats up with this program tho, its not masters of science huh

people shit on masters of engineering prob

[jaunty basalt]

Engineering degree requires more credits

[shut crescent]

bro i might keep applying for MSCS until i get in dead ass

every year just submit the same application + 1 YOE

any top 10

im remote rn so i think i can do any top 10 tbh

fuck it if i dont get in, i dont get in

atleast ill have pay unless i get laid off

[jaunty basalt]

Does your company pay for it

[shut crescent]

these 1 year programs are not bad at all...

[shut crescent]

i gotta look at it

i think they cover some though

ima reach out to the benefits department on tuesday

i think i might have 3 strong letter of recs, 1 from my PI (director of software engineering lab at my undergrad), 1 senior director of engineering at my company, and another from my manager

@woven folio what do u think are these strong or mid

do u really think meng is worth it though

i dont want to pay rent in LA lmfao

oh

idk if i want a MBA

im wondering if it'll make my applications stronger to big tech tho

mscs will be way more worth prob huh

big tech loves research i heard

[jaunty basalt]

Not for general swe

Idt that even matters

Is that even what they want

[shut crescent]

yeah

most people say MS is a waste of money/time

it barely helps

i think it would be worth if i didnt have a job or wasnt building experience somehow

ig we'll see in the future, if my company pays for it then ill do it

werent u doing pretty good before the uiuc masters tho

or no jobs lined up?

oh lol

how long do letters of rec stay valid btw?

some are saying up to 5 years is that true?

[split igloo]

ngl, unless its combined BS/MS. MS is a way of Unis making their profit out of rich OOS students (mostly intl. students).

I read some reddit post MSCS is pretty much cash cow for unis.

[bold pier]

https://wellfound.com/l/2yUggd

Any super smart guy here? This is a job for you

[bold pier]

True

[split igloo]

Well, its bit of generalization to say that all the MS is cash cow program, but mostly MS is a way of getting F1 visa with CPT/OPT to work in hopes of getting H1B for many intl students ngl.

Not a bad thing, but kinda sad since MS ain't cheap

[lethal latch]

I got an offer offering 12-month fixed-term contract as a new grad, does anyone know how the fixed-term contract works? any advices tks

[sturdy aurora]

Take it. 1 YOE, leave when economy is better, easy junior roles

[delicate lantern]

Has anyone heard of the company quintrix?

[fallen fox]

💀

[sturdy aurora]

4 YOE

is crazy

[bold pier]

and it's filled

You do it I'll pay you

[swift falcon]

for dogshit pay too

[grizzled bronze]

Lmao Georgia https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/27/us/georgia-naked-photo-drivers-license-trnd/index.html

[teal jackal]

1984

[raw plank]

fortnite

[azure zephyr]

i have a georgia driver's license lmao

[dusky tapir]

whats yall iq im curious

[fallen fox]

69.420

[dusky tapir]

https://brght.org/share/based-discord-discord-based-9f25/

Take this if your curioous, its only 20 mins long and gives a you pretty accurate measure

[fallen fox]

💀

[cyan plank]

78

[grizzled bronze]

low

[bold pier]

Its same as my blood pH

[brave forge]

Explains why no offer smh

[fallen fox]

[stoic belfry]

any one know any discord channels to find roommates in Pleasanton/Dublin/Concord, CA area?

[west egret]

Are you going to be with Workday?

Also your best bet is to ask in #bay_area

[vital leaf]

My friend has successfully completed 1700 leetcode problems

No job btw

[dusky tapir]

That’s u bro?? Insane shit man, I knew u were based

Know what, that your based?

[kind orbit]

anyone gonna be in seattle for new grad ? is there a seattle new grad discord

[iron lily]

International?

[rain patio]

i just want a jooooobbbbb

If software is so in demand, why is it so hard to get a job even witha 4 year degree 😭

[faint umbra]

Tech is saturated

[rain patio]

😦

[raw plank]

whats the new max codesignal score

[vital leaf]

Yes

[rain patio]

I'm just going to work at Walmart fulltime and work on projects and leetcode until it's my time to get a job

this is so discouraging

[brave forge]

good luck

do night shift for more pay

[rain patio]

ewwww no way

[brave forge]

you know walmart would have given you free CS university

[rain patio]

Probably only at select universities

And probably only online universities

[brave forge]

ya online only. they do it at the uni i go to SNHU, i know people on the student discord that get it fully free from walmart

[dusky tapir]

https://brght.org/share/based-discord-discord-based-9f25/

Y’all do this test so far@rain patio is the highest iq with an iq of 144

[brave forge]

Doesn't mean the degree is any worse though. Companies accept it just as much as a normal uni and nobody even knows it's online since there is a campus

plz ngmi this is a CS server the avg IQ of one of us is very low

[rain patio]

pretty sure i got like 87 on one exam xd

@dusky tapir bruh ur name 💀

but it was an online exam

the future is working at walmart 😭

I worked at walmart to pay for college. And now I'm going back there to pay for rent and food 😭

[dusky tapir]

It’s not fake bro the people who made it are legit. It doesn’t test verbal iq so chances are your verbal is lower but your nonverbal is very likely high af. And that’s ok because verbal iq isn’t as important in comp sci

[rain patio]

which one, the mensa?

tbh, $15/hr in a low cost of living area isn't so bad

[brave forge]

bruh

id rather just grind projects and work on LC and interview hard then go back to working manual jobs

at least im good at code. I'll get a job eventually for sure

but in some bad scenario where i can't land a CS job, ya id take walmart just to keep my finances afloat

[dusky tapir]

It’s ducking terrible now bro, even McDonald’s pays 15 in bum fuck nowhere now

[brave forge]

fast food is the worst for low pay, unless your like the delivery door person but even then i think they swap roles

you have to stand in a greasy kitchen all day around food and deal with customers. it's like retail but even worse working conditions for the same bad pay

idk why you'd pick fast food over retail or warehouse work tbh

[rain patio]

yeah walmart goated

I just put boxes on shelves for 8 hours and get paid well

it's not CS level pay, but at least I don't have to train outside work hours or some bs to prove i'm worthy of working in the industry

man i hate how competitive cs is

[brave forge]

im okay with it it isn't that competitive lol

they just check if your competent enough to work on a team and code at a lot of companies. Your not being ranked on a heirachy and have to hit #1 on the leaderboard before they hire you

[sturdy aurora]

Projects don't matter if you don't have a userbase

I think everyone needs to know this and repeat it

[rain patio]

for real? Then how the hell do i get a job

[sturdy aurora]

No project is relevant to a recruiter or company if it's not in production

[rain patio]

I'm fucked

[brave forge]

people get jobs without projects though

[sturdy aurora]

Yes

exactly

[rain patio]

So a CS degree with no experience means i'm doomed

[brave forge]

at that point you might as well not even have a project section if no user base, is that what your saying?

[sturdy aurora]

yes

[nova coyote]

anyone preparing for this fall recruiting season

[sturdy aurora]

if you have a small user base and they can access it, good

if they can't, they really can't care less

or if there's no evidence online

[brave forge]

will they find it weird if i leave out a project section

[sturdy aurora]

Use your project section for buzz words

and showing familiarity with a language

it's relevant for internships

because they still expect you to be in school

for FTE nobody cares

[rain patio]

So how do I even get past the resume screen?

[sturdy aurora]

hard times

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rain patio]

Do they really expect new grads to have all this experience before it's possible for them to have experience smh

[sturdy aurora]

even i cant get past screen with 3X faang

[rain patio]

screw this industry smh

[brave forge]

where are u applying tho

[rain patio]

I just want a job

[sturdy aurora]

everywhere

[grizzled bronze]

Don't listen to them, keep your projects up. They can still help.

[rain patio]

All these stupid companies rejecting me have no idea what they're missing. I'm such a hard worker and I love coding

[sturdy aurora]

bruh just open Blind and ask

[brave forge]

im sure once 2024 new grad comes out you'll get a ton of interviews

[rain patio]

but nooooo I don't have 4+ YOE as a new grad so...

[sturdy aurora]

if you dont have anything put up projects

but that's the industry

[sturdy aurora]

it's office politics

[nova coyote]

anyone who are interested in doing mock interviews regularly, please DM me

[rain patio]

I'm so angry. All the peoppe currently in the industry dont know how good they have it.

"Just keep applying bro! You'll get a job it's easy!"

No it's not

[brave forge]

https://aquadzn.github.io/learn-x-by-doing-y/
maybe use this site for project advice

or follow udemy tutorials. that's a lifehack for getting good at a language quick. If you can survive the boredom

[sturdy aurora]

I recommend contributing to Open Source projects

https://norvig.com/21-days.html

[raw plank]

mfw my friends that graduated 2 years ago with no internships but landed jobs tell me "just apply bro its not that hard"

[rain patio]

Yeah, 2 years ago was during the hiring boom. Who tf is getting jobs right now with no experience?

[sturdy aurora]

My friend did

Granted, they had a perfect GPA though

[timber rock]

I did

I mean there is not much advice other than keep applying

It takes time especially in this market

[grizzled bronze]

Just ignore anyone saying it's easy, they're clearly ignorant of the current market

[sturdy aurora]

June/July jobs should open up HOPEFULLY

[rain patio]

Are there any 2023 grads here who got a job with no experience? I just need to know what those peoppe did

[timber rock]

Yes

[raw plank]

no

the ones who did are currently counting their money with their hot girlfriends

not in here anymore

[glossy hull]

I got a job with 0 experience don’t give up 🥶

[timber rock]

I just got decent at leetcode, applied for 7 months before I finally landed some offers

There’s not really a secret, just get your resume reviewed, put your best projects on there and start spamming

Get referrals if you can but they didn’t help at all for me tbh

[dusky tapir]

Is there a Kyle in here who took the test? Pm me

[fossil jewel]

at this point its diminishing returns

anything more than 250 and still struggling with assessments/technicals is due to actually not understanding concepts/communication maybe?

[shut void]

I was told to begin applying next month for jobs. I graduate in December. Is that what you guys would recommend as well?

[sturdy aurora]

Apply when a job is available

People say next month because that's when they open the most usually but why not now

[shut void]

I guess my question is when do jobs typically start opening?

[sturdy aurora]

June/July and August/Sep has big batches

[shut void]

Gotcha

[rain patio]

Kind of a silly question but do I qualify for NG if I am like one thesis away from finishing?

[rain patio]

no

[dusky tapir]

You can apply to whatever position you want no one’s gonna punish you for applying

[brave forge]

na i heard you can get a jail sentence for that

[west egret]

Yeah someone I know who did LC religiously for a year had about 400 and I’d say that’s overkill for most cases. To have more than 4x that is a bit of a waste.

At that point, you’d get more value out of practicing behaviorals and how to communicate during the technical.

[swift falcon]

400 what?

leetbux?

[west egret]

400 problems done

[tawdry nacelle]

Kinda, I got a internship that is supposed to turn into a ft position, we will see how true that is in august

[rain patio]

nice

so grind 100 leetcode problems and spam side projects and i'll be okay when the 2024 hiring season starts

[tawdry nacelle]

Tbh I’ve fumbled a couple possible good offers bc I messed up OAs

[west egret]

No promises but it’s better than going in cold and just starting to LC when season starts

[tawdry nacelle]

So now I’m trynna spam with one internship on my resume while grinding lc

[rain patio]

I'd kill to get OA's smh

better than getting auto rejected

[raw plank]

apply to block

dont even finish the application, they have a link to codesignal

[dusky tapir]

guys i need more data for this iq study its only 20 mins and gives you an accurate score. No calc or paper allowed. https://brght.org/share/based-discord-discord-based-9f25/

[dusky tapir]

@fallen fox is lowest iq in chat confirmed

[fallen fox]

[rain patio]

Anyone ever get a bit manipulation question in an OA or Technical

[distant pebble]

i did for monad labs and rivian

[rain patio]

aw i was gonna skip it

thanks for lmk

[distant pebble]

they do fall for co op

[obsidian crater]

If this test is real

I'm smooth brained af

[dusky tapir]

nice score bro

[raw plank]

have any of you here applied to freddie mac? I applied months ago and my app isnt even opened but they still post new jobs all the time

[grizzled bronze]

Nope, but now I'm craving a big mac

[swift falcon]

Your IQ is 108 🤣

[tawdry nacelle]

Never took an IQ test

[brave forge]

your iq is null

[tawdry nacelle]

Nah it’s undefined

[swift falcon]

I don’t get the grid combiners, bet if I figured those it’d be better

[distant pebble]

it's closed now but it was on linkedin

[dusky tapir]

https://brght.org/view/MN5ffRS6fREaokHN/?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=Finished_shared_test_mail_to_creator&utm_medium=email

You mean yours?

[swift falcon]

ye

[dusky tapir]

@fallen fox keeps polluting my data

[swift falcon]

is dat ur test?

[dusky tapir]

No

[swift falcon]

how da hell u see my results

oh it’s ur site

[dusky tapir]

But right now the results in descending order are 144, 133, 122, 122, 112, 108, 98

[swift falcon]

how do u do the grid question

[dusky tapir]

It’s not my site dude Jesus Christ

[swift falcon]

bro pls

[timber rock]

who got 144

[swift falcon]

how u getting results then lol

[dusky tapir]

It’s a like a referral link, it sends me all the results so I can report back to y’all

[swift falcon]

ah

sheesh

[dusky tapir]

@rain patio

[timber rock]

🤓

[dusky tapir]

He’s incoming at Roblox so it adds up

[rain patio]

lol

bruh ur name tho

[raw plank]

this iq test giving me another reason to give up

[cloud zinc]

is this test part of the hiring process of new grad dev roles

[dusky tapir]

Possibly

[cloud zinc]

is there a bootcamp for IQ prep to break into tech ? ||\s||

[polar fox]

I got ~140

Makes me feel better about my unemployed ass

[dusky tapir]

I don’t see your result in the system?

[polar fox]

Hm?

Was i supposed to get a result in email too? Didnt get it

[dusky tapir]

That’s weird it must have glitched out

[polar fox]

I went to the link thru discord up there

Then i pressed back to go back to discord. Maybe thats why

[dusky tapir]

Could be

[faint umbra]

US is a land of opportunity they said

[swift falcon]

bro didn't you write the code on that website?

"employs" i.e. go die in ukraine

[faint umbra]

After sanctions also Russia is still doing good

[dusky tapir]

TC is 7 soviet era military rations a week

[rain patio]

Going to try and get a job at Walmart....as a shelf stocker

$15/hr isn't amazing, but it'll help me survive while I grind for 2024 jobs 😭

[swift falcon]

start an OF

[cyan plank]

GL bro

When I worked there it was💀

[fallen fox]

bro you have a cs degree dont work at walmart 💀

maybe try to get a IT related role? A lot of them are remote/hybrid and the entry-level ones pay between $25-$30/hour and instantly accept any CS degree holder

[rain patio]

ehhh I want to work somewhere not mentally draining so that I can spend time grinding leetcode and projects for 2024

Walmart is nice because you show up and work and then leave

don't have to use your brain much

and I don't want to get stuck working in IT

[fallen fox]

im doing a it job rn all i do is grind leetcode and apply to jobs on linkedin at work

[rain patio]

IT sucks

[dusky tapir]

Bruh I had an Uber driver that had a cs degree, grad in like 2021, but he quit his remote SWE job at Boeing to work Uber. Apprently it was too “boring”. Like bruh ru fkin serious? Enjoy driving Uber for like 20 bucks an hour the rest of ur life

[fallen fox]

yes it does but rn i cant find anything 💀

[fallen fox]

[rain patio]

screw this job market man

it sucks so much

[fallen fox]

it's a complete skill issue from my side

i've gotten enough interviews where I should've had a full time offer by now

[rain patio]

I've had 3 interviews after 300+ applications, but they all ghosted me after asking me about my work experience (I have no work experience, and it's on my fuckin resume!)

like bruh why did they bother interviewing me

[dusky tapir]

Sometimes recruiters reach out to reject candidates just to seem busy

[sleek owl]

i want 50k mrs Lydia

[swift falcon]

HEAR HEAR 👏

[grizzled bronze]

Are you hiring new grads?

[sleek owl]

lets start a pyramid scheme

that way we all make money

do they take remote?

[west egret]

Depends on where you live

[sleek owl]

is it based in nyc?

[raw plank]

U mind saying your IT company or give some examples

Typing just IT into LinkedIn gives me random posts

[steady sage]

Yeah I mean that's the thing, what type of IT job are we talking

[fallen fox]

Conduent

look for end user support analyst; the pay is generally between 25 - 30

[shut crescent]

i think i will only do mscs when i hit big tech cuz they'll pay for that shit

other than that probably not a good financial decision

i already paid a good amount for double major lmao and i got a decent starting job where im saving a shitton

[obsidian crater]

Is it remote?

[fallen fox]

that depends on your manager

[obsidian crater]

nice

[fallen fox]

mine is on-site 3x a week

[rain patio]

aren't IT jobs just as competitive as CS jobs? no way I can compete with IT degree holding people

and i don't even like IT anyway

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-numbers-gif-8416367

[steady sage]

tfw they're even asking for YOE for data entry jobs

[shut crescent]

i fr wonder when things are going to get back to normal lmao

its looking like 2024-2025 tbh

[oblique wasp]

dmd you

[obsidian crater]

Lemme know plorz

[delicate lantern]

You were getting interviews 😭

Where are you guys applying

I’m mainly doing LinkedIn and I feel like I’m not getting any interviews

And I don’t think it’s my resume that’s the issue at this point

[brave forge]

Jeez your resume is 🐐 how are you not getting interviews? maybe it's just the lul in job postings rn, when 2024 comes around you should get more

[delicate lantern]

Mhmm thank you

Oh wait I updated my resume a bit

[bold pier]

Any one getting callbacks from staffing or consultancies?
Where should I apply ._.

[brave forge]

LordGrisworld has been telling us he got a call back from Revature if that helps

[errant cape]

Anyone know when hiring starts for 2024 grads (full time)?

[sleek owl]

It’s already started for some companies (blackRock)

[fallen fox]

December 2022 grad

[brave forge]

Just smudge the grad date

[tardy geode]

hunger games ng 2024 edition

[rain patio]

Honestly, I think those were a fluke lol. I have no experience and kinda meh projects on my resume. At each of the 3 interviews I got, they asked if I had any professional experience lol. Did they even read my resume? I never made it past the first round for any of those interviews because I don't have any actual experience...

[west egret]

Not saying LinkedIn applications don't work but in general if there's low effort to apply then more ppl will apply -> More competition for that role

This was back in Fall 2022 but I mainly did the postings on the repositories

[fossil jewel]

technically for december grads, the degree conferral is in the following January

[rain patio]

Yeah handshake is nice

Fewer applicants I think

[delicate lantern]

Mhmm I’ve tried it for a bit but not too much

Also I posted my resume in the resume chat

I don’t know aws but if they ever ask about it I’ll just say I’m doing a Udemy course and working towards a certification

[west egret]

Yeah depends on how much of a stickler the hiring company is tbh

The graduation ceremony occurs before the actual graduation which is your degree conferral and schools show the conferral date on your transcripts

[fossil jewel]

my school only has the one ceremony for all of us 2023 grads

and yes Dec 22 is considered 2023. it’s based on the school year

when i was doing my finaid stuff, it’s for 2022-2023 for ex

[sleek owl]

Can I apply for blackRock 2024 if I graduate May 2023

Their req is July 2023

[raw plank]

That just means spring 2023

apply

[bold pier]

How hard is the black rock oa?

[fallen fox]

can ats parse ampersand (&)?

internet advice is all over the place

not sure if i should keep that on my resume

[obsidian crater]

first question is easy, 2nd one is a hard

[bold pier]

I did 🤔

[obsidian crater]

The worst part is the input format

You have to parse the input, it's not given in a nice format like LC

[bold pier]

Oh

It's okay, minor inconvenience at this point

[tribal rampart]

was it instant? or you had to wait for a bit

[nimble verge]

I need a job

I can code a website

I like pussy

[outer radish]

Light

[nimble verge]

Sugar

I like pussy lips

[rain patio]

least deranged 2023 grad

[brave forge]

lol came across this on r/getMotivated and it's a good idea. Maybe I should make an excel spreadsheet that could track all my goals to prep for a NG position and then fill it in every day on my progress

cause there's so many things I want to do it's hard to even remember everything. Sometimes i forget about stuff for a week then am like "oh ya i should be working on that also" like my AWS certs that i just dropped off into oblivion but actually need to finish

[grizzled bronze]

Pilot's license

[nimble verge]

Wtf is this shit

That’s the dumbest thing ever

[brave forge]

[nimble verge]

If I want a goal

I just throw money at it

And then

My goal happens

If I need money

I just go into one of my bank accs

And get money

It’s simple honestly

And if I want to make fast easy money I day trade options

[swift falcon]

if you make to do lists you don’t actually do them

it’s scientifically proven (probably idk)

[nimble verge]

@rain patio

What’s wrong with this video

[rain patio]

how to apply for new grad if i haven't graduated yet

@here

[nimble verge]

Show her money

She’ll be a gold digger

Check now

Import one from a 3rd world country

She’ll be loyal to u

And only u

Then hire someone to teach her English

Well that’s different

She’s Russian come on

Was he rich

[rain patio]

I need to slim down to 165 😭

[brave forge]

just amputate your leg

[rain patio]

but i like my legs ;p;

it's probably a device to chain your unruly kids and keep them busy

[pine topaz]

evening @rain patio

👋

[rain patio]

evening? it's afternoon for me

[pine topaz]

east coast beast coast

[vague furnace]

did anyone else on here get an email for the Bloomberg Accelerator Summer School interview prep stuff?

[swift falcon]

what if i just stopped being mid

[brave forge]

wow how did you find my reddit account

[fossil jewel]

same

[split plaza]

is samsara NG actually open

they have a position on their ripplematch

[nimble verge]

What’s the color

[raw plank]

Why does every job in the DMV area need an active top secret clearance

I need a TS to sweep the floors at some random 10 employee contractor

[rain patio]

classic government jobs

[sturdy aurora]

puts $1 to work for FTE SWE

gets minimum wage

[lethal latch]

Thks!!!!

[fallen fox]

reminds me of a friend who graduated in 2021 with 0 internships and terrible resume and now works at NYC making 160k

[iron lily]

my friend who majored in bio works at Amazon 💀

he graduated a year ago

[grizzled bronze]

Friend who majored in English works at Jane Street

[iron lily]

no 🧢?

[grizzled bronze]

just capping

[iron lily]

mans got lucky with 30 min interviews at Amazon last year

they cheated on OAs and lucked their way into 6 figs

[grizzled bronze]

Nice

You still gotta have some talent to pass though

And majoring in bio means you're really smart

[swift falcon]

bro pls

this what im talm bout

all the non-cs ppl career changing into our jerbs

[iron lily]

https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889

those days are over tho

[fossil jewel]

should've gatekept it but we let the tiktokers ruin it

all the grads from last year flexing the free lunches

and game rooms

[fallen fox]

if you couldnt get into faang in 2022, it's over

yes 💀

[sturdy aurora]

well i m3x faang

[normal palm]

this tbh

[sturdy aurora]

and cant get a job

[grizzled bronze]

Luckily FAANGs aren't the only companies

[normal palm]

this is what it took in 2019 to get a ng offer from amazon, google and facebook (disclaimer this is someone else)

huhhh

[grizzled bronze]

It has to be better this year

[normal palm]

i have a much better resume than this and i can't land anything

not even get interviewed

[fallen fox]

NYU is decent school

i went to a shithole school and even witch rejects me with oracle on resume

[normal palm]

is NYU that good?

[grizzled bronze]

Probably because you're overqualified for them

[sturdy aurora]

top 3 cybersecurity schools

[normal palm]

oh shoot

fr?

[sturdy aurora]

but CAS isn't top 3

[fallen fox]

[sturdy aurora]

it's nyu tandon

if ur nyu cas

[normal palm]

k yeah i go to a no name that's probably why then

[sturdy aurora]

do data science

[grizzled bronze]

Isn't that even harder

to get into

[normal palm]

but i have about 16 months of big tech internship experience including f500 and FAANG + 6 months of academic research experience

still nothing

[sturdy aurora]

NYU CAS is known for data science

im saying in terms of school reputability

[ornate cliff]

just do zon return brother don't stress

[normal palm]

i got delayed bruv

jan 2024 start

[ornate cliff]

what the fuck... I thought it was internationals only

wow....

Unlucky

till jan?

[normal palm]

nah everyone in toronto got affected that had a july start date or later

they fucked us

[ornate cliff]

delay is until when?

[normal palm]

6 months after start date, for me is jan 2024

[ornate cliff]

woooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[normal palm]

yeah

[ornate cliff]

zon is fucked fr

unreal

[normal palm]

basically played with us the entire year thinking we had something and were like cya

[ornate cliff]

that's so fucked

[normal palm]

i probably coulda landed something like back in sept if i tried to

[ornate cliff]

hopefully you ACTUALLY start

and no more games in jan 2024

[normal palm]

yeah that's another question mark, no one knows if they will

[ornate cliff]

jesus christ

well... welcome to the grind

[normal palm]

i literally have the worst luck in life lol

[ornate cliff]

nah you're cracked tho

IBM + Zon

you'll land something

[normal palm]

idk man market's looking pretty bad rn tbh

[ornate cliff]

yep... it's total shit.... it's gonna be long ride

[rain patio]

I don't have any money, so I'm doing my part 😭

[iron lily]

how good/bad do y’all think NG 2024 is going to be?

[normal palm]

market's especially bad for new hires

[dusky tapir]

I wanna work for hooli

[grizzled bronze]

Better than 2023 at least

[normal palm]

without a master's in statistics or a phd? good luck haha

[ornate cliff]

I've had one interview since I started applying and I completely choked it... who knows when my next will be

[normal palm]

damnn rip

[rain patio]

I just want coding assessments smh

[iron lily]

aren’t we going to be entering a recession in late 2023 tho?

[rain patio]

maybe....maybe not

[dusky tapir]

Are you a woomen or just a weirdo with a kpop profile pic

[grizzled bronze]

Idk, I'm filtering out the bad noise

[ornate cliff]

they keep delaying it with these silly interest rate hikes

they need to jack it 2% and get it done with