2023_grads

[autumn ridge]

bruh lol

[late kestrel]

im flying via jetblue so idk if they even have diff classes

[west egret]

lol I wouldn't even care tbh

[solemn crag]

still waiting for the host

[west egret]

It's what 6 hours for me?

[late kestrel]

jetblue is the only airline that flies direct into jfk for me

that day ig

[fossil jewel]

damn y'all enjoy

[west egret]

I'd take JetBlue over United any day

[late kestrel]

free inflight wifi

[tardy geode]

yo where?

also @grim ore can i dm you?

[west egret]

I like that they basically tell us to enjoy a good 2-3 days there to just explore

[clear moon]

If yall had the choice between Spring 2023 graduation or Fall 2023 graduation (door open for summer 2023 internships) what would you take?

[late kestrel]

only really saturday sadly... depends when your flights get there/leave on thurs and sun

[outer radish]

if you can get an internship rn - you should prob do fall 2023

[clear moon]

The new grad 2023 train doesn't look good rn haha def considering both options

[outer radish]

if i wasnt so balls deep in the new grad process i woulda done this

keep in mind tho, it could just be the start

[clear moon]

yeah it's been pretty dry for me

[outer radish]

not always end all be all if you wait

[clear moon]

plus one more internship with possibility of return offer...

[outer radish]

whats the intern seen looking like tho

[clear moon]

better than new grad LOL

[outer radish]

is it as bad as the 2023 new grad scene?

lmAO FUCK i shoulda done that

[clear moon]

just check #2023_grad_process vs #intern_postings_old

[outer radish]

our school has the option of completing all the credits you need to graduate

but if you dont apply to graduate ur still a student

[clear moon]

it's lower across the board but yeah internships are the safer bet for companies since it's a trial period + possible return offer instead of investing in hiring a full time new grad that might not work out

[clear moon]

im curious how that would work for my school lol

just dont apply and exist with all the credits

[ancient zephyr]

Does anyone have any experience with reapplying for a position u got denied for with a diff email?

Does it work at all?

[cobalt siren]

bloomberg call setup -> offer?

[clear moon]

It's going to be still with your name though no?

[ancient zephyr]

Yes

Same name, resume everything

[outer radish]

honestly like it could be a strat

[ancient zephyr]

Just different account and email

[outer radish]

just do LC one sem and say ur "going back" as a student

[clear moon]

So what would make them say yes the second time though

[clear moon]

LOL might do that. Full time LC student

[ancient zephyr]

Passing the OA the 2nd time I guess lol

[clear moon]

ooh

idk up to you I think that wouldn't rly work though

[ancient zephyr]

Just curious

[clear moon]

They still have your name and record on file for not passing the OA

[ancient zephyr]

I just tried with 2 companies

Fingers crossed I guess

[ancient zephyr]

Yea

[west egret]

offer

[cobalt siren]

nice

[brave dirge]

just had it. no sys des✌️

[ashen musk]

LMAOOOOO bloomberg phone interviewer no show for 3RD TIME IN A ROW

[night magnet]

TC?

[teal jackal]

straight to offer for u kiddo

[night magnet]

I’d take visa

Better relative TC + I like Austin better

But if you’re an NYC guy then take bofa

[warm sapphire]

anyone know whats in the HR round for bloomberg

[vestal pelican]

behavioral questions

[west egret]

Behavioral and why BB

[warm sapphire]

Are they pretty basic questions?

[solemn crag]

Just finished my EM round

Turns out to be only 30 min

Half of it is just EM walking through his team

[ancient pagoda]

is everyone interviewing at bb right now lol

just finished my vo

waiting for hr

[solemn crag]

The responses were rather lukewarm, idk but he just seems to be rather uninterested in everything

[west egret]

@solemn crag are you taking BB or Zon if you get offer?

[solemn crag]

idk

Might just ask in the channel lol

[shrewd ocean]

1 or 2?

[ancient pagoda]

both today

[solemn crag]

He also asked why I did 2 internships at FB lol

[west egret]

“Because I was trying to start FT there”

[solemn crag]

I said I wanted to learn more about Messenger lol

[serene fable]

Isn't palantir also doing a lot of hiring?

[shrewd ocean]

does bloomberg reject fast

[lament summit]

Not really

[solemn crag]

I can't say I wanted to get a GE offer and fat tc right lol

[lament summit]

Palantir has a much higher hiring bar then bb and amazon

[serene fable]

Heard a lot of people were interviewing there recently

[gilded dust]

Palantir is dying

Amazon is growing

[serene fable]

Also got resume rejected from Bloomberg so their bar can't be that low

While I got an Amazon offer

[gilded dust]

I’d choose amazon over pltr any day

[lament summit]

u will think different when u see the tc

[serene fable]

Does palantir even have that much better of a tc when adjusted for col?

[lament summit]

yes

About 40k higher

[serene fable]

Even after adjusting for col? I thought palantir was in ny

[gilded dust]

What’s pltr tc?

[lament summit]

amazon is also ny?

amazon ny is 200TC

pltr is 240TC

[serene fable]

Pretty big

[night magnet]

26k post tax is pretty significant yeah

[teal jackal]

am i the only one who wants to live in a suburb

im a car enthusiast and cities arent good for car enthusiasts

parking costs extra

[serene fable]

Probably not, people here are just less likely to want a car

[gilded dust]

@teal jackal me, I dislike the city

[solemn crag]

Isn't that just first year?

[night magnet]

I’m living in a suburb because I’m trying to buy a couple of apartments and rent them out

Just need to get my loan down .25% and then it makes sense

[gilded dust]

Brrrr

For suburbs, Orange County is 🤌

[night magnet]

Yoo

I used to live there

[teal jackal]

i wanna play parappa the rapper rn

man

[night magnet]

I love OC

Irvine is amazing

My favorite place in the US fr

That’s awesome

In N Out goated

[gilded dust]

OC is underrated

[night magnet]

They fry their burgers in mustard to get that flavor

[night magnet]

Oh 100%

[lament summit]

drops to 210 next

[teal jackal]

wh yis a legitimate copy of parappa 2 $60

[lament summit]

amazon drops to 190 next

[teal jackal]

this is why i pirate my games

[fossil jewel]

i withdrew my application after being invited to do OA

i personally just dont wanna mess with that industry

[sonic coral]

Yes because believe it or not there are cheaper places to live that are still a decent commute to the city

[teal jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO_DK7dbLrs&ab_channel=TangoStar

[night magnet]

Same

Prob wouldn’t have passed it anyways

[fossil jewel]

yeah their OA had to do with graphs

[night magnet]

I know

[fossil jewel]

and im not very good with graphs (yet)

[teal jackal]

you had an OA?

[fossil jewel]

yeah they sent me an OA

and then reminded me again

had too much going on to study for it tbh

[tardy geode]

yo wtffff

[split plaza]

bruh

is this some kind of power play or just incompetence lmao

[fossil jewel]

i think its the latter

[small pike]

Where is the latest salary sharing?

I can’t find the link where it’s being updated

[lament summit]

there isnt

levels.fyi is ur best bet

[obsidian dome]

mind if I dm you for some question about Visa process?

[dusky plover]

yo what is it with BB itnerviewers and not showing up

[fossil jewel]

could be bad scheduling with recruiting or just overwhelm lol

[west egret]

Some bad luck too

I didn’t encounter any major problems with interviewers not showing up

[fossil jewel]

yeah same

most late one was was like 8 minutes

[lethal turret]

does bloomberg have waitlist ?

ghosted for 3 weeks after em

emailed the recruiter last week said someone from the recruting team should reach out at the end of the week

still didn't hear anything

[slender apex]

i heard they're filling up

so maybe try poking them again

[night magnet]

Oh nice only $5b/yr

[tardy geode]

bruh how do ppl take screenshot hackerrank live coding interviews . i mean doesn't hackerrrank detect that , tab switch etc?

[autumn ridge]

2 monitors

browsers can't detect activity outside of the window itself so you could do what ever you want on a second monitor with the only concern being inactivity in the proctored window

[tardy geode]

don't know if live coding has that , ik OA has it

like hackerrank OA's have all that turned up

maybe on the live coding thingy of hackerrank all that is off or somethin

for OA's i am sure that stuff is turned up

[autumn ridge]

wdym live coding? Like proctored or with an actual interviewer

[tardy geode]

with an actual interviewer

[slender apex]

has anyone here ever interviewed with SpaceX for SWE, if so can i dm?

[autumn ridge]

you could try but I think it might be fairly obvious. Like I can't imagine trying to actually think through a problem while screenshotting it and sending it somewhere. Also would be very obvious if you are typing but it's not showing up in the hackerank window lol

[rain patio]

Hi! Has interviewed with HRT recently?

[stone sandal]

Has anyone recently completed the two 60 minutes interview for Amazon new grad position?

[tardy geode]

is this common in graph problems which could be solved by dfs?

[night magnet]

ask in #quants-n-traders

[lilac siren]

lol draftkings rejects me

[solemn tinsel]

I would just call each of these in a for loop bc you might need to check if the row and col are valid

[tardy geode]

oh i see

btw sometimes when i see a video explanation regarding any problem i keep the solution of the problem open on the side while watching the vid explanation . helps understand the problem in a better way but idk if i this is the right way .

like rn i am watching neetcode's word search video expln and have the soln open on the side window

[shrewd ivy]

imo it is better to use for neighbor in neighbors type beat cause it's simpler to understand

[lone rapids]

Yea it is correct

[last belfry]

Lol why was the technical portion of the c1 powerday had so much to read for the problem lol

It wasn’t hard but why they give so much info😂

[wind drum]

argo ai is shutting down damn

that's kinda shocking

[old smelt]

Woah wtf

[wind drum]

yeah they were expanding into new cities a couple months ago

[foggy perch]

guess the tech startup bubble's finally popping

[somber oyster]

Somebody know Ziprecruiter minimum bar of codeSignal?

[split plaza]

how long does it take to hear back after Palantir HM

[faint igloo]

its more about resume screen so many ppl got screened out with 840+

[somber oyster]

DAMN 840+???

ugh....

[craggy radish]

ZipRecruiter is wack af

[faint igloo]

tbf they prolly have insanely low hc

[old smelt]

There's people who made it through with under 800 too

[whole berry]

yooo wtf

smartr is shutting down ?

[somber oyster]

damn... let's see....

[marsh sand]

Amazon and Meta on CV

Yet 0 offers now

Help

[low scroll]

0 offer gang

[faint igloo]

amazon return?

[marsh sand]

I rejected my return 2 years aho

Asked for it back

[low scroll]

😂

[faint igloo]

yolo

[marsh sand]

They’ll come back to me

I hope Meta’s Q3 earnings hits rock bottom

I applied yesterday to london role lmao

Hope i hear back soon

[west egret]

Interviews are pretty backed up now

[old smelt]

Have you tried all quant firms? They've been handing out interviews more than tech it seems lol

[marsh sand]

I dont think im smart enough for quant lmaoo

0 c++ background

[old smelt]

There's python roles

DevOps, etc.

[teal jackal]

i think anyone decent enough at LC can be in quant if they REAAAAALY want it and try REALLY hard for it

[split plaza]

is it a good idea to ask if my Palantir result can be expedited, have offer deadline on 11/1 (recruiter already knows this)

[teal jackal]

i think my weakness is OS-level concepts

like advanced memory allocation techniques

with buckets and arenas

my prof taught it so poorly

[crude saffron]

Just read the textbook

Ostep

[teal jackal]

idk i feel like the problem with OS-level concepts is that there is just way too much going on

the data structures seem incoherent and just slapped together liek spaghetti code

"it works lmao"

[dense cloud]

i feel like its really easy to forget things though

[teal jackal]

yeah p much

[dense cloud]

like after awhile u just forget everything u learnt

[teal jackal]

like in my systems class we had to implement a memory allocator and file system

that was absurdly hard

i was just fundamentally unable to visualize what was going on in that class

so this is probably a case of bad teaching

i didnt even have this bad of a time learning networks

[dense cloud]

networks is a lot easier than os to me

[crude saffron]

Just refresh a few hours before interview

[teal jackal]

will anyone actually ask how a file system or memory allocator works

[dense cloud]

would u rec it over ostep

[teal jackal]

i feel like most interviews are high level enough that theyll ask about practical design

[low scroll]

probably the quants, hedge funds, etc

[teal jackal]

ah

so would be a waste of time for me rn

im gonna keep studying sysdesign and Lc

[last summit]

u know of a list of python hft roles?

[dense cloud]

well jane street is language agnostic

[last summit]

i keep getting past resume screen at places for c++ roles and literally dont know c++

but ghosted/rj for python ones

its crazy

[teal jackal]

onsite?

[maiden fable]

virtual

it says it can be 1-2 interviewers

[last summit]

"if you never fuck around you'll never find out"

some of them don't explicitly say c++ but then the interviews and such are all c++ so its implied lol

[whole berry]

MOOOOOOD

[last summit]

its just funny because my resume makes no mention of c++ or anything

idk how it even works

total rng

[teal jackal]

im hungry damn

what do i get for dinner

[split plaza]

burger

[lament summit]

wagyu

[whole berry]

borgir

https://tenor.com/view/borgir-abdu-rozik-burger-kid-gif-22116968

[crude saffron]

Chipotle

[uncut umbra]

has anyone had an informational interview/phone call at oracle

[forest aspen]

No

[uncut umbra]

unique mfers

[slender apex]

its whooper wednesday

[ivory stratus]

is expedia just slow after oa?

been waiting two weeks

messaged recruiters on linkedin and no luck

[slender apex]

did u also just get an email?

[teal jackal]

unironically we have popeyeso n campus

ive decided

[uncut umbra]

yes

[ivory stratus]

we have raising canes on campus

[uncut umbra]

yes

[teal jackal]

BU has a canes

and a taco bell

[fossil jewel]

popeyes good

[teal jackal]

Northeastern got the popeyes

[fluid bloom]

How long does it take to hear back from Amazon after the final?

[ivory stratus]

im just glad we finally got chik fil a

[teal jackal]

boston has a chick fil a but its downtown

tbh im meh on chick fil a

a consistently solid 7/10 place

[loud stump]

yeah the growth is so bad 😦 but also I want to live in NYC. I'm super torn cause my other option (roblox) has a bad location imo but great growth

[teal jackal]

wendys ranges from 8/10 best case, and 2/10 worst case

taco bell is -1/10 worst case

[ivory stratus]

bruh

taco bell is so good

it's my munchies food

[teal jackal]

yeah tru

[loud stump]

Palantir you can just not get a pay bump from your starting salary

[teal jackal]

taco bell is luck dependent

also the taco bell at BU has alcohol

[ivory stratus]

our taco bell by my place is so busy though all the time

[teal jackal]

or used to? not sure if they still have it

[ivory stratus]

like everybody wants door dash from it

the line is like on the street some nights

so it sucks sometimes

[teal jackal]

ive been slacking

i havent applied for any new roles recently

im gonna go hardcore tonight

[ivory stratus]

me either

im thinking about looking into salesforce too

[teal jackal]

salesforce got no openings bro

[ivory stratus]

nah like salesforce eco system

[teal jackal]

ohhhhh

yeah

[ivory stratus]

but id rather just do swe lol

finding a job just sucks ass

hoping more open in spring

[teal jackal]

yeah

we need to keep applying

we also should keep our heads up

there's always a second wave of postings towards the end of the season

[ivory stratus]

yeah true

im just gonna keep grinding and hope for the best

[teal jackal]

💯

[forest aspen]

I didnt know that lol

[ivory stratus]

this semester and next semester are chill for me so im mostly trying to study

[forest aspen]

I thought it was all at once then another all at once

[ivory stratus]

also this is interesting

https://leetcode.com/explore/interview/card/leetcodes-interview-crash-course-data-structures-and-algorithms/?vacRef=problembanner

[forest aspen]

Whats stressing me out is it isnt getting any easier

[teal jackal]

yeah same

i agree

[forest aspen]

and wont each season from now

[teal jackal]

i feel like ive been squeezed out of the 2023 new grad process so far

at least the early bird wave

[ivory stratus]

yeah same

[teal jackal]

there are so many applicants i cant compete

[forest aspen]

Yeah ^

[ivory stratus]

had big hope for msft

but ya know

[teal jackal]

[forest aspen]

It is what it is

[ivory stratus]

hoping i can just aply next year and go straight to final or just have a phone and then final

[split yoke]

reading this thread every so often just makes me so anxious lol

[teal jackal]

if youre anxious then that means you care about your future

use that energy for good

to work hard

[split yoke]

thats... weirdly motivating

[hasty birch]

Meta butchered AH

[ivory stratus]

AH?

[shrewd ocean]

after hours

their stock

[dense cloud]

meta rejected interns rejoicing rn

[uncut umbra]

idk what ya'll are getting but taco bell never fails to make my orders HIT

[uncut umbra]

this is facts

if I wasn't constantly anxious I wouldn't be pushing through the grind for 6 years

[old vector]

does atlassian ask lc hards

[wind drum]

no

[uncut umbra]

I just did the phone today

[whole berry]

guys

is this the hardest track or no

https://open.spotify.com/track/0FPLRJ1VQLGRU31rGcSX7N?si=1973b97fb2ef4799

[sturdy kindle]

anyone heard back from Dell?

[outer radish]

What kind of fucking message is this

We wanted to let you know that you were picked to move forward in our initial process but due to constraints internally we were not able to get you started in our actual interview process

[livid citrus]

what company??

[gilded vortex]

lmao at least better than ghosting though

[forest aspen]

Bro some of these messages lowk so funny

[outer radish]

tbh i'd rather get ghosted cause at least they dont make me smell the pie then throw it out the window

booty never goes out of business during a recession 😤

[compact obsidian]

sounds like a headcount issue maybe?

[wind drum]

it's funny because strip clubs doing worse is a recession indicator

[slender apex]

well guess its time to sell ass

[outer radish]

you mean you haven't started?

[slender apex]

damn u rite

[fallen hornet]

anyoen got an email format for conflicting interviews

and getting one to reschedule

i have no idea what to write

cus i've already thrown family emergency excuse

[jaunty basalt]

U can’t run out of family emergencies as strange as it sounds

[old smelt]

damn Meta is keeping headcount flat through the end of next year lol

[marsh sand]

Flat as in

0?

[old smelt]

no hiring

[fallen hornet]

dawg LOL

whats a good excuse tho

also has anyone gotten a flexport fulltime offer this year?

[rain patio]

does anyone know how long amazon takes to give u ur decision

[west egret]

I’m my own family

[fallen hornet]

yeah

[faint igloo]

When did u have ur final, i had it last week lol

[fallen hornet]

i kinda bombed my final technical

mine was friday 10/14 and 10/18

ppl have been getting rejected

i kinda just want an offer so i can get my internship to hurry the fuck up w/ my return

[faint igloo]

Yea but idk if thats after final or oa

[fallen hornet]

true

yeah

i think i aced the behaviorals

cus all 3 of my behaviorals went rly well

just threw the technical cus i was fuckign tired as hell

theres no way flexport has 2 spots

probably 30-40

theyre pretty big

huh

its not rolling

wow

[faint igloo]

Yea my final was last Wednesday so i thought id hear something

[fallen hornet]

theyre very behavioral focused

good point

kinda side note, but i love older interviewers

just let them talk

yeah

im actually curious now about their headcount

[faint igloo]

Damn i interviewed for bellevue

[fallen hornet]

yeah i was chicago too

bro

i dont wanna go to chicago 😦

[faint igloo]

I dont mind either

[cedar bridge]

After how long does palantir take to reject candidates after hm?

[lilac narwhal]

Does anyone if palantir or bloomberg reached headcount?

[warped needle]

Has Anybody who is accepting Netflix begun to think about living situation in cali ??

[lunar hatch]

Anyone heard back from 2sig after final since Sep 23?

It’s been really crazy

[west egret]

People are still getting offers today

[old smelt]

i heard they ghosted everyone after final lol.. has anyone even gotten an offer?

[lunar hatch]

Haven’t heard anyone getting offer

[old smelt]

probably headcount issues or they're just incredibly slow

[fallen hornet]

yeah

i'm a lil worried about that cus my return is NYC rn

[zinc bear]

had no system design for bloomberg em 🙏🏼

[digital tinsel]

how long does a codesignal score last?

[lament summit]

Forever

[rain patio]

does anyone know how long amazon takes to get back to u after ur final interview? 🙏

[forest aspen]

wow you wernt kidding

[old smelt]

pray for apple and amazon to give us good news tmrw lol

[forest aspen]

[solemn crag]

What's atlassian ft process like?

[smoky bone]

anyone know if amazon 1x 30 final they will show you the code you wrote

its been 2 months since I did the OA so i dont really remember the OA anymore lol

[teal jackal]

Free thinkers when the

[low scroll]

why aws recruiter hit me up then ghost

why random company recruiter hitting me up about a senior role

[zenith moss]

because they have pip problems too?

[hexed moth]

mine did

[smoky bone]

did they ask you how many times you ran your code before getting a working solution

[fossil jewel]

aws recruiter did that for a more senior role, i misread it as ng and then she ghosted

[hexed moth]

dawg, just tell them it's been a month and you don't remember

[solemn crag]

How many rounds for Atlassian ft?

[pure mauve]

33

3

[hexed moth]

you don't need to overthink this, just have a conversation with your interviewer. they're not trying to like stump you or be sneaky or something

[smoky bone]

ok icic ty!

[solemn crag]

Can you switch Netflix intern interview process to NG

Don't know if that's possible or not

[primal pike]

is this a phising link

i already have an univ acc

[autumn ridge]

I don't know if it's a phishing email but it reminded me of last year when applying for intern where anyone elses Amazon emails like deep fried meme colored?

[primal pike]

email addr looks legit

[lone rapids]

This is legit

[echo wadi]

they do

[ivory stratus]

This a good sign?

[lone rapids]

no

this is no sign at all

for either good or bad

[ivory stratus]

Just them telling me that I’ll hear back eventually?

[lone rapids]

I received this ig a month ago still nth

[ivory stratus]

Daaaaaaamn

[night magnet]

Automated

[ivory stratus]

My friend gave me a referral so was hoping at least something would come of it

[crimson flame]

what's up with Cali?

[lilac locust]

I didn’t see this

[hexed moth]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1585392846705754115 rip meta employees

Bloomberg (@business)

Meta is down 20% in after-hours trading https://t.co/3MrxhPd5ir

Likes

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Twitter · Oct 26, 2022, 10:08 PM

[solemn crag]

They just told me fte pipeline is pretty much filled and switching over means all over.

[faint flame]

is there anyone getting Yahoo hr phone call？

[hexed moth]

i mean they've been hiring people despite people being on the waitlist

i skipped the waitlist

[ivory stratus]

They opened up waitlist

[hexed moth]

i think it just depends on where you applied

[west egret]

The last referral I got was for MSFT

[crimson flame]

yes

[hexed moth]

u think meta is going to recover xd

[hasty birch]

Shed over 60B market cap

Just today

[hexed moth]

amazon ain't going nowhere 🙂

[rain patio]

Isn’t it 205 base for both and 10k higher bonus for return interns

[hexed moth]

man

all companies pip though

[grizzled bronze]

They've always resume rejected me, fuck Doordash

[old smelt]

Have u done the OA? I heard it was 2 DP hards

Yea even last year it was a difficult OA, apparently it's fucked this year

[cedar gulch]

Netflix is full already?

[solemn crag]

That what she said

I will double check tonight and make a decision tmr regarding whether to switch to ft pipeline

[lament summit]

so it is going somewhere

double negative

[robust kettle]

Anyone else get a Cisco 1-question survey whether I'm still interested in my application there 🤣

[naive flint]

did anyone get duolingo oa yet

[lime current]

3 mediums 1 hard in 80 mins

whatnot put me on the grill lmao

[brave dirge]

i skipped the waitlist

[floral plank]

It is nothing

[lyric cosmos]

how do you guys do codesignal problems?

[split plaza]

Do y’all think Palantir is a safe bet for the impending recession

[whole berry]

bro meta got RINSEDDDD

in after hours trading

wow

[gilded vortex]

1 2 4 3, you can get 800+ with only doing 1 2 4, but only in the 700s with 1 2 3

you really have to speed run and not care about good code practices

if it work it works

and submit/test often, they don't dock points for constant submissions

[lyric cosmos]

Got it

And what is the average passing line when companies reach out with the next steps?

[dire ore]

a alumni from my school got promoted from e3 to e4 in 10 months

for doordash

[livid citrus]

anybody do nike oa?

[gilded vortex]

Really depends on what companies, but I think 820+ should be good for most companies. Some will accept mid to high 700s.

[gilded vortex]

Idk about doordash, with all this talk about gig workers being full time, idk how it will impact these businesses

[ivory stratus]

idk how i like this new youtube update

feels like they're trying to be apple or something

[normal palm]

wait they only pay 150 now?

oh shoot

[nova reef]

tax in toronto is pretty yikes but I guess doordash is probably one of the better employers you can ask for in canada

[teal jackal]

Unless zuck can come up with something good to save meta, meta is fucked

[floral plank]

Rip Manga

[gilded vortex]

Nah no way they only pay 150k in cali

[teal jackal]

Man I hope I get a job soon

I'm just tired of the wait

[gilded vortex]

yeah its like 1/3 but toronto pays significantly less

i guess just a canada thing

[autumn ridge]

IMO yes if you are working on Gotham or related government work not as much if you work on other areas. Palantir won't lose their govt contracts but if they get hammered they could scale back regular business teams

[split plaza]

makes sense

[livid turret]

Any okta fulltime offers?

[teal jackal]

toast the buns
french the fries

[brave dirge]

apple said they wanted to schedule interview. i replied my availability. then they rejected me LMAO

[somber oyster]

OMG....gross

[brave dirge]

this year’s weird AF

[signal trellis]

damn, what availability did you share LMAO

[cobalt siren]

bro said 4 am

[brave dirge]

i said i’d be available like almost any day anytime

[somber oyster]

Today I got a notice reschedule interview after 6mins from my original interview time AF

[twilit wasp]

what are people's opinion on IBM?

[signal trellis]

homie got rejected for being too available 💀

gotta let them know you got options

and you busy

[floral plank]

Not on the same level as Faang but better than nothing

Definitely not bad to start at

[livid citrus]

ibm this year > meta internship last year

coming from a meta intern

[floral plank]

Would you guys still take meta internship over internship at a bank?

[livid citrus]

ofc

[twilit wasp]

i have jpmc return offer, so mostly comparing between jpmc and ibm

[livid citrus]

jp imo

[floral plank]

Go for jpmc

[twilit wasp]

i mean tbf ibm is not london based, while jpmc is ... and i wanted to go to london next summer

[timber rock]

ibm location tho

[split plaza]

https://streamable.com/c2ytj1

reason #2375 you shouldn't feel bad about reneging because companies don't give a shit about you lmao

[teal jackal]

this tbh

id renege anyone now

tbh

[timber rock]

If there's any python fans here rn could you take a look at my q in #leetcode_discussion pls xoxoxo

[rain patio]

Share this everywhere. Lmao

Clowns

[fossil jewel]

here’s your answer

[floral plank]

Nah they are kinda biased towards non Big N

Idk that is what I think about Blind

[fossil jewel]

everyone likes to shit on banks and while i get it, they’re a good place to start and have chill ass wlb giving you the time to leetcode your way into better offers

also i kinda respect jpm for doing a hackathon that can lead to an offer

[timber rock]

i just saw this, yes me

my final is on tuesday

next week

thank you

[fossil jewel]

which location?

[timber rock]

yes

jpmc is slow af

[fossil jewel]

nyc be getting a good amount of applicants tbh

how was the OA?

[timber rock]

i got 13/13 and 6/13 on jpmc, with a bit of luck that might be enough

[pure plank]

Anyone able to schedule their Bloomberg interview recently? Which dates are they giving you all for VO or next round??

[timber rock]

yeah, i want jpmc over expedia but if they take too long they'll miss me

gotta take what i can get

im uk based. my uni is top 25 world so ig kinda

but its not like top top ivy league level lol

[last belfry]

Jpmc has some interesting projects, but some are not too interesting

If you care about tech^

During my time there I didn’t use any legacy tech

All of my teams stuff was pretty up to date

[timber rock]

going to a top school really helps hahah i'd be fucked in this market with no internships if i didnt

[fossil jewel]

ye same, python, aws and splunk were my tools

didn’t see legacy tech

and everyone was just really chill

i just didn’t like going to Jersey City

so i hope i get to work in manhattan for FT

[gilded vortex]

they were like one of the firsts to give out oa

but I never heard back

[dire yarrow]

Hey everyone lol

[floral plank]

Hey Null

[robust kettle]

I'm hoping for JPMC offer as well, had superday last week. I think they're a solid place to start at least.

[fossil jewel]

go back to #full_timers

[dire yarrow]

[fossil jewel]

good luck, if you're in the nyc area then i will be returning FT

[teal jackal]

tbh the job search has been the first time in my life ive genuinely REALLY wanted something that i couldnt just buy or wait until christmas/my birthday for
and it really hits me mentally tbh
im just not used to it
it feels frustrating that something i genuinely want is completely out of my control
like as a kid i wanted a ps vita and a PC, for that, i could just wait until christmas
theres no doing that for a job

[robust kettle]

Nice one. I'm aiming for Columbus since I'm near there

Interviewers seemed cool

[fossil jewel]

yeah the culture is really chill

[robust kettle]

Just got an email today from Optum after an interview and I think I may have nailed my first offer 🤞

[teal jackal]

i feel like i grew up all my life to be spoiled and materialistic
the moment i have to fight for something on my own merit im clueless
but tbh
getting an offer through the new grad process is going to build a lot of character

like this process will teach me confidence and teach me to value myself relative to others
like i will realize that theres no fear in entering a race with the only intention of winning first place
ive never been first place at anything before either

and i realize that i can very well be first place relative to the competition

this new grad process shall manifest that mentality in me

[fossil jewel]

you shall get an offer soon

ik you still got some interviews happening/to happen

[teal jackal]

like its very daunting to me how offer rates at companies are like 2%

or even 0.3%

0.3% of applications lead to an offer

but i will earn the confidence to beat the 99.7% odds

[robust kettle]

there are incredibly many unqualified candidates though

[teal jackal]

and beat that odds more often

[teal jackal]

more than enough qualified applicants in the pool though

[fossil jewel]

very rng if they get moved further

[teal jackal]

ive realized that ALL the root of my current suffering is because i feel a form of dysphoria about the job search

i have a goal, but it's not something i can buy or ask for for christmas.
In fact, whether or not it can manifest is often completely out of my control.

[forest aspen]

I have interview anxiety but not like im afraid once im in

[fossil jewel]

are you limiting your search or is it only for Big N and unicorns?

[forest aspen]

Its like rank anxiety in games

[teal jackal]

expanding my search

[fossil jewel]

thats good

[teal jackal]

yeah ive realize that for faangmula and unicorns, amazon is the bare minimum

in 2023 at least

amazon in itself is not enough to guarantee getting past screening at those kinds of places

its more the minimum requirement

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-chicanery-breakdown-gif-25422432

[teal jackal]

and thats ok

i understand

[fossil jewel]

i think lots of prev faang/unicorn folk think that having the exp is an automatic offer elsewhere

it makes sense to think that but its not really true

[normal palm]

bruh Anduril's new grad job: 3+ years of experience in a data engineering role

[teal jackal]

yeah i think i was led to believe that because of other peoples past experiences

[normal palm]

BRUHH

[teal jackal]

survivorship bias i guess

[normal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-rpx_syria-gif-19044194

[teal jackal]

not true at all anymore indeed

tbh, I am 100% glad that I have meaningful goals in life now past getting the latest game or console.

but man

[fossil jewel]

even before i think having those internships isnt a 100% guarantee, still gotta pass the rounds

[teal jackal]

does the dysphoria suck

[fossil jewel]

sure does

[teal jackal]

gotta pass resume screen

first of all

and then the rounds

how they pass/fail people after rounds is also completely out of your control

all you can do is bring your best effort

[fossil jewel]

yeah even then, one can use really offputting terms to describe their previous experience

[dawn sequoia]

thats a big emote omg

[teal jackal]

it sucks how so much shit is out of my control

like as a kid I knew exactly that I could ask for one vidya game for christmas and one for my birthday, and either on christmas or my birthday i can ask for a new electronic device

As a job applicant you can think you did everything right and still get rejected

and they won't even tell you why you were failed

[fossil jewel]

yeah honestly i think part of it that helps me is to realize that its not really personal

[teal jackal]

but tbh you can tell usually when a rejection is a skill issue

but i know that most of it has been just fate this season

and thats ok

[fossil jewel]

oh for sure, but thats actually easier for you, because then you're like "oh now ik where i messed"

if things went well, i think its way harder to improve since its murky

[teal jackal]

yeah i agree

[ivory stratus]

wait does revature suck or something?

[teal jackal]

its a consulting mill

hire people by the metric fuckton

and just keep them for a little bit to do menial dev tasks

[gleaming fable]

revature would be considering part of WITCH by most

WITCH+

[ivory stratus]

what is WITCH

[timber rock]

lol.

[gleaming fable]

Stands for 5 of the biggest indian consulting firms that are terrible to work at:
Wipro, Infosys, Tata/TCS, Cognizant, and HCL

[timber rock]

they try to charge you 20k if you quit

[marble bronze]

You mean the company that puts you in a contract where if you quit within 2 years, you have you reimburse 23k to them for training expenses?

[timber rock]

for "training costs"

[marble bronze]

That Revature, right?

[gleaming fable]

All consultancies with bad pay, bad wlb, little to no room for growth, and predatory entry level contracts

[gleaming fable]

I think all of them are guilty of it to some extent at least in india

[night magnet]

ya my friend works at HCL and idk how to tel him it’s a sweatshop. He somehow loves it.

[outer radish]

this is highway robbery

[timber rock]

it's not really enforceable, i've seen lots of people who quit and just refuse to pay and nothing happens (this is not legal advice)

[ivory stratus]

i would do that lol

[gleaming fable]

you can luck out and be stuck on bench for months at a time getting paid to do nothing lol

but your career stagnates as a result

[wheat seal]

That’s unlucky tbh

[robust kettle]

If you can get nothing else it's probably worth a shot. But if you're here months before you're graduating you can probably find something better

[gleaming fable]

true, its basically paid interview prep and leetcode time if you're smart about it

[wheat seal]

Cuz ur unhireable kinda especially if u coast for too long I think. Like if u stay for 2-3 yrs

[timber rock]

you can learn a lot in these jobs but the pay is just awful and you dont have much choice in what tech or projects you get thrown at

[ivory stratus]

yeah im not graduating till may so yeah no lol

they dont even offer for hawaii anyway

[teal jackal]

cant really burst someones bubble like that

if theyre happy, i guess theyre happy

[marble bronze]

Ah you're Hawaii?

[ivory stratus]

yeeeee

[wheat seal]

There are prob some good teams

[gleaming fable]

[ivory stratus]

it's nice for the most part

sucks trying to find a tech job

[robust kettle]

ya i don't think it's guaranteed to be shit

[marble bronze]

Awesome place, for some reason everyone in CS can't get a job on mainland though

[ivory stratus]

that's why im hoping to just get experience and hope for FAANG/bigN remote job

[gleaming fable]

yeah like any place there can be good teams, you can def luck out and be part of a good one on a cool and interesting project

[ivory stratus]

yeah. it's not hard to find a remote job necessarily, just need experience

see all these jobs for bigN/FAANG but they're L4 and above

[teal jackal]

idrc tbh

i cheat on OAs all the time(in minecraft)

[ivory stratus]

yeah lol

if everyone else does it, just go for it

[timber rock]

everyone cheats lol i dont rly mind either

[teal jackal]

im no better(in minecraft) so i cant judge

thats my take

[timber rock]

if its non proctored there is no reason not to cheat

[ivory stratus]

like especially this year when OAs are dumb hard

[teal jackal]

i cheated on my HRT OA for summer 2022 intern and got an interview(in minecraft)

i ended up eating shit anyways(in minecraft)

[night magnet]

Exactly lol

[marble bronze]

Lowkey I feel like the biggest diff this year is just US citizenship

[ivory stratus]

yeah partly

[ivory stratus]

but also just the bar is a lot higher than last year and previous years

[teal jackal]

this is famous now

this is so funny

[fossil jewel]

honestly should've been honest during the call lollll

[marble bronze]

Probably. Haven't been in any loops for big companies besides the F500s

[timber rock]

i dont think leetcode questions properly evaluates candidates anyway

tf is that sticker

[marble bronze]

AT&T, Fannie Mae and the others seem to have been really straightforward so far

[timber rock]

i didnt click that lol

obviously

but what im saying is being good at leetcode is not the same as being a good engineer

[ivory stratus]

it's just being good at studying and that's it

[wheat seal]

I think it does. Otherwise they would use school name value

[ivory stratus]

and being able to determine what to use for certain problems

[timber rock]

if they cheat through an oa and then pass all the interviews? fuck it, they deserve the job

[ivory stratus]

yeah lol

if you suck at OAs and interviews, those people arent getting through

[fossil jewel]

i mean i think this is part of the reason why OAs get harder

"too many ppl passing OAs, time to make em harder"

[ivory stratus]

eh i dont think so

Oas arent really a measure that they would use

i feel like

i could be wrong since im not in industry

but if you cheat on the oa and you suck at interviews, youre gonna fail

regardless

[timber rock]

exactly

[ivory stratus]

so cool you can pass an oa but still

[timber rock]

there is nothing they can do to prevent it, yeah, it's not morally right, but people want money and passing this shit makes you money

[ivory stratus]

i really dont think it's people cheating that is increasing difficulty of OAs

[teal jackal]

tbh making OAs harder is not going to stop cheating

in fact it will increase the cheat rate

in the long run i do not think that making OAs harder will prevent cheating

[ivory stratus]

that's what GCA is for

[teal jackal]

I see that proctored OAs are increasingly popular

[ivory stratus]

a lot of companies use codesignal for the proctoring

but if you use hackerrank or most anything else other than codesignal, you just use another computer lol

[fossil jewel]

it feels weird to look up docs on a proctored OA

[timber rock]

exactly proctoring barely fixes anything lol

[ivory stratus]

why is he a piece of shit? lol

[timber rock]

unless it's one of those ones that you need to record a tour of your entire room at the start

[ivory stratus]

if you care about morals and ethics, then you're setting yourself behind the bar. if everyone else is cheating, then why aren't you lol

these companies don't care about you anyway lol they just have the OA so they don't have to waste time and money on people

regardless, like i said, if they suck at interviews and they cheat on the OA, they aren't going to pass a final or tech round anyway

doesn't really matter

[teal jackal]

yeah the OA doesnt matter that much

[ivory stratus]

cheating on an Oa doesn't gain you anything really

[teal jackal]

the companies have done the science behind it

they probably know a lot of people cheat

but they get weeded out eventually

[timber rock]

it'll likely be obvious to them after the technical interview lol

[teal jackal]

thats an amazon issue haha

literally only amazon

[ivory stratus]

amazon is gonna pip 90% of them anyway lol

[wheat seal]

I feel like with coding u are looking at resources anyways. Instead of looking at documentation and resources your learning patterns. It’s better than looking at school name imo

[teal jackal]

even most local companies have a higher hiring bar than amazon

i say this as a former intern

[timber rock]

is an engineer who doesnt use stack overflow even a real engineer?

[ivory stratus]

it's because they need to hire faster than they can

[teal jackal]

theyre just cracked then

my dad is a C++ boomer, i should tell him to work in quant for a few years before he retires

he's a god at C++

im shit at c++

[timber rock]

copy pasting solutions is a bit risky and that's something i wont do, but if you kinda know what you're trying to do then imo looking up the syntax and algorithms, or googling your errors is something that should actually be encouraged

[teal jackal]

well that also just exposes that such a lengthy and tedious hiring process is utterly unnecessary(5 rounds of bullshit onsites, 5 hour finals, etc)

[fossil jewel]

its crazy how someone recorded

[teal jackal]

inevitable

[fossil jewel]

caught in 4k

[teal jackal]

out of thousands of people

at least one recorded

[fossil jewel]

oh yeah i sometimes record sessions to refer back to later

[teal jackal]

this for sure

[wheat seal]

“We stopped recording right”

[ancient zephyr]

lmaoooo is this real?

anyone got a link to any of those chats tho?

[wheat seal]

But tbh @cedar nebula she’s just saying the truth

[teal jackal]

(in minecraft)

[timber rock]

yup lol

[teal jackal]

only a genuine idiot copy pastes the entire solution

[ancient zephyr]

makes sense tbh

with how the hiring process is these days

[fossil jewel]

i think its an issue with like places that auto reject when its not 100%

like i did the OA for kensho and got 3/4 questions with all test cases passed, but one q not all passed and got the reject the next day

probably for the best that i got the reject seeing its more of a startup

[timber rock]

sadly and unsurprisingly my 17% for twitter wasnt good enough

[teal jackal]

unsurprisingly

its ok twitter is fucked anyways

so tru

[old bough]

hey everyone, have a quick question, recently got a new grad conversion offer for 2023
unsure if it’s worthwhile negotiating (I don’t have competing offers) and the offer seems pretty good

[timber rock]

mine was for the internship last year, it was crazy lmao

i just rage quit like 30 minutes in

[teal jackal]

yeah u need good leverage to nego

but good leverage is subjective

[old bough]

2x intern, far exceeding expectations rating in every single review, 2 intern projects and both are widely used in the company now

[teal jackal]

if u think its good at least try

yeah i heard u can refer to performance to nego

[pine smelt]

i interviewed last year and accepted, feel free to dm

[teal jackal]

no competent company will rescind for attempting to nego

so jus do it

true

hm

you dont even need to gender change just be a femboy my dood

[old bough]

I had a chat today with the recruiter when I got my offer, she said I got the highest range in offers and said she can’t do more in that range but I didn’t mention my performance cuz I was shy

I got a standard offer like all return interns

LinkedIn

We have a discord of all interns and some ft, no one was able to negotiate this year 🥲

[timber rock]

i have a plan to try and nego a 37k offer from a supermarket with optiver's offer if i somehow get optiver

and see what happens

[old bough]

I might not negotiate and give up

Yup and pretty much what my recruiter said lol

Yea might as well take them

[teal jackal]

i spose so

[shrewd ocean]

nba streams

[teal jackal]

if u wanna be a femboy on onlyfans that would earn u some side bux

tbh

[old bough]

My manager did promise senior in a year if I keep up performance so might be a good idea to ride it out and just wait for promo

[last summit]

this is worth a lot more than a slightly higher offer now

id take it

[old bough]

Ok will take it then and not worry with nego tbh

🙏

Thx frens

[teal jackal]

tru

congrats 1337 on the offer

i hope u enjoy it

[old bough]

Thx ❤️❤️

[teal jackal]

are we all inspired by the neetcode video today

the one telling us to think long run even in the face of a recession

[hybrid bluff]

It’s referring to churning milk to get cream

[teal jackal]

i have no idea

[hybrid bluff]

The cream rises

Like normal milk lol

From a cow

[old bough]

My offer was fully remote everywhere in US and also had option to do fully remote from Canada but for a big pay cut

[teal jackal]

tbh isnt canada more expensive anyways

which is ironic

[old bough]

I can choose the location

Yea my team is everywhere across us

[hybrid bluff]

I want a referral 1337 in 4 months please

[old bough]

I chose Bay Area tho

Cuz I want to be near office

[autumn ridge]

Got to take advantage of the S tier food

[teal jackal]

do u prefer being in office?

[old bough]

Yes especially for white boarding

I’m in sec infra

In crypto

So it’s very infra heavy

[forest aspen]

i got a high performing score on codesignal invalidated bc i accidentally looked smth up on stack overflow and not python documentation

[old bough]

People who I worked closely with are all in office usually

[teal jackal]

so they do track where your browser visits

damn thats really unfortunate

[forest aspen]

it could have been the stacck overflow thing

or

i was also eating

but i doubt it was the eating part

[teal jackal]

i drink mountain dew during interviews

like my interviewer gets to see me take a big swig of mtn dew

in front of my webcam

[dawn sequoia]

nah you def cheating

[forest aspen]

i was like fully eating mac n cheese tho and id duck my head down but it was right in front of my keyboard so like idk

[dawn sequoia]

prob wrote DFS on his burrito before the assessment started

[teal jackal]

hm i guess you were unlucky

sometimes codesignal is not picky about anomalies during proctoring

sometimes they are

[forest aspen]

like the codesignal before that

i also looked smth up on stackoverflow

and that score was fine

so tbh idk

[teal jackal]

i pet my sisters dog during my codesignal and i was fine

[forest aspen]

it wasnt like a cheating question i just needed to know the parameters for standard python function

[teal jackal]

i carried my sisters dog onto my bed because she was begging to get on my bed during the codesignal

im surprised i was approved

the dog in question

no u bro

[forest aspen]

bro you literally cheated, you can see the backtracking template written into the fur

[teal jackal]

we bought it from staples, idk

this is at my parents home

[forest aspen]

oh also since last time you talked to me, you told me to do LC hards and ive done quite a bit since then, im getting used to em now

i can prolly solve one with like a hint or two easily

[teal jackal]

nice

[forest aspen]

when youre on minecraft for the oa's do you just look up the question

like straight up

[teal jackal]

yeah

[forest aspen]

i have a hackerrank later today and i dont really know sql a whole ton

or tomorrow actually

but still

[oak patrol]

Is there any website for pre ipo startups list?

[ivory stratus]

Did someone say dog pics

[thorn walrus]

STOP

that dog is cute 🥺

no

[thorn walrus]

same breed probably

[fossil jewel]

tiny kittens

[ivory stratus]

We got him Leis with treats lol

[fossil jewel]

got the target dog

[ivory stratus]

He’s a good boi

[timber rock]

my child

[ivory stratus]

Dawwwwww

[ivory stratus]

That doesn’t look v comfy lol

[timber rock]

he was chilling like that for a while lol

[teal jackal]

thanks skl

[lilac locust]

This job market

[normal palm]

no mercy has been done

[ripe marsh]

Quick and dirty poll:
1️⃣ got offer, done
2️⃣ got offer, still interviewing
3️⃣ got final
4️⃣ got OA
5️⃣ applied
6️⃣ haven’t done shit

[tired cape]

@tidal mulch DM’d

[crystal delta]

return count ?

[ripe marsh]

just say you got an offer

[pliant heron]

Any one received msg from ebay since filling out final form?

Seems that it sent this form to many people

[unreal atlas]

could anyone rank chewy, walmart, ebay, lucid? just for some insights

[nocturne seal]

Anyone know anything about Apple Evolve

[pliant heron]

841

[nocturne seal]

They sent me the form with a 719😬

[whole berry]

ayyyy 719 gang

[nocturne seal]

amazon

[pliant heron]

Many people received with 700+

Even below 700

Idk

[outer radish]

has anyone gotten a linked list q this year

cause im tryna just focus on graph, dp and array shit

[lilac siren]

on the same boat

got that form with 844

[dusky plover]

ive gotten a fuckton of backtracking

backtrack and graphs is a high priority

dp u prob wont get asked much

[outer radish]

kk gotchu

any other guesses?

like string and array questions, maybe matrix stuff is what im thinking

[pliant heron]

Okay, perhaps it hasn’t started yet, feel relieved

[dusky plover]

matrix hardly

dfs yes

i got a ton of parsing data into hash map kinda qs

[lone rapids]

I did not receive any form. Ebay sucks for not sending me final foem

841

[dusky tapir]

They don’t

[lilac siren]

another random company

random as Amazon

[dusky plover]

rip bozos

[blazing crystal]

When was your OA?

[lone rapids]

26 sep

When does tiktok reach out after oa

[whole berry]

they have reached out to the first batch within a week

im guessing i wont be moving forward

[lone rapids]

I dont think im first batch. Im in oct 17-21 batch

[lone rapids]

When did u do ur oa

[pliant heron]

Oct 17, just checked my email

[whole berry]

oct 21 i think

[pliant heron]

Maybe it will have next round

[lone rapids]

I dont think we r first batch

[whole berry]

right but knowing what the first batch timeline was helps us map out ours

[livid turret]

anyone with okta final round?

[whole berry]

maybe theyre backlogged who knows

[lone rapids]

Its still not a week yet

[pliant heron]

That’s normal, i finished many perfect oas and rarely got feedback

[livid turret]

I think Okta cares only if the application is through a referral

[ancient grotto]

Did you have final interview twice for flexport?

[outer radish]

Whats ur lc strat tho

[vital meteor]

Hi