2021_grads

[pulsar tulip]

also as an aside, if I'm afraid they're hiring me to fire is that something I should address?

[woven quartz]

Not sure how you could really address that head on. Closest thing would be specific about what your role would accomplish (ask for specifics in terms of the project(s) you'd work on). You could also ask if there were any new hires on the team recently

[buoyant ruin]

Recruiter says that they'll be posting l3 positions within the month.

Just don't do better than me in the interviews, alright?

[keen onyx]

Do you guys have any list of topics that I should make sure to cover for DS and Algo interviews?

[buoyant ruin]

let me find what someone once gave me when I asked that here

#2021_grads message
"other than making sure that you understand your data structures, basic algorithms - try to make sure you are familiar with patterns from grokking: https://hackernoon.com/14-patterns-to-ace-any-coding-interview-question-c5bb3357f6ed
Other than that trust yourself - to figure out the problem lmao - you already have an approach"

[woven quartz]

Gotcha thanks for the info 👌also dw I'm good at being bad at interviews

[keen onyx]

Thank you 🙌

[dapper dock]

Thanks!, I could use this on the Blind 75 probs im currently practicing on

[slim inlet]

yall im supposed to have a technical round rn but its been 13min and no one has let me into the meeting room i dont know what to do

[rancid gull]

try emailing the recruiter?

[slim inlet]

its for SAP so the emails have been with an AI

there was one person cc'd and i included them in the email

[slim inlet]

did i just get ghosted is this what i have to accept

[slim inlet]

ok so i didnt get ghosted. my interviewer had left the company a week before and he said he reached out to someone about rescheduling me before he left. so I guess i just wait til i get a response back 🤧

[worthy spear]

Do companies usually ask for transcripts?

For new grad

[waxen sundial]

Is there usually a new grad GitHub repo that comes up yearly like there is for summer internships?

[knotty basin]

yeah just not yet

[kind marten]

sometimes but not usually. like for ex, google did for me

[knotty basin]

google the only place that has ever asked for mine

[worthy spear]

Yea I’m worried cause I got like a C in Operating systems :/

[waxen sundial]

ight bet thanks for letting me know!

[woven quartz]

more time to prep!

how harder are onsites compared to phone screens?

excluding the longer format, are the problems during it similar to a phone screen or more difficult?

[knotty basin]

can only speak to my own experience maybe others can weigh in but usually mine have been similar or slightly more difficult

[worthy spear]

Mine are usually somewhere between oa and phone

Phone tends to be easy it’s just a weed out. On-site they grill you ( could also just be thst it’s much longer so feels harder)

[woven quartz]

thanks for the info @knotty basin @worthy spear

[knotty basin]

np!

[wise bloom]

Is there any optimal practice list of questions for karat interviews?

Or does each company have different sets of questions usually

[wise bloom]

Oh pog, that's good to hear, thanks

[peak dirge]

If your Google skills are elite, there’s a website with all the karat questions + answers out there

[waxen sundial]

wanna dm me a link 😄

[slim inlet]

anyone know what the GM final is like?

[spare violet]

One of the managers looked at my LinkedIn profile after VO. Is it a good sign?👀

[dapper dock]

Is optnation.com legit?

[civic rivet]

Has anyone done the red balloon security challenge? Seems intense idk if it’s worth it

[fallow stirrup]

Please dm me the link he dm'd you

[fallow stirrup]

What's your opinion on rust ?

Should I learn it?

Or should I learn Java instead?

[real walrus]

Depends on your interests, but Java is used a lot for business logic at many places. Amazon runs a ton of its software with Java.

You seem to like C++ a lot going by your username so you may enjoy some of the cool things Rust has that’s attracting system programmers

[digital carbon]

No one really uses rust yet tbh

I mean there are a handful of teams using it, but I feel it would be pretty tough to be a "Rust dev" for a living atm

It's obviously gaining traction though so that could change (I'm personally pretty excited about the language)

Learning Rust is a good experience, just don't bank on getting employed because you know Rust is all I'm saying

[worthy spear]

You would have to ask wungus, appeatntly he’s a rust god and have gotten 5 big N / fangg internships

[worthy spear]

Big N means fortune 1000 right?

Wait I don’t think fortune 1000 means anything, cause you can be in the top 50 companies and only get paid 60k like at Disney or like other company

[dim scarab]

Yeah Fortune 500 you’ll probably get name recognition higher up but not all of them are tech companies

And even then the pay doesn’t follow

You can probably guarantee impact but that’s it

[worthy spear]

How do you know?

[dim scarab]

yeah we know

i mean also levels

[worthy spear]

Did you get a return offer?

Didn’t u get a Microsoft offer tho?

[dim scarab]

[worthy spear]

Wait u worked at Viacom too?

[sick hazel]

What is the time complexity of checking if a string is in a set?
Is it O(s) where s is the length of the string passed? or is it O(1) somehow due to hashing and stuff?

log(n)?

what about python? probably the same as C

isn't it the same thing as using a set()?

ohh okay good to know

lol yeah probably should do that

thanks man!

damn thanks

[torn ferry]

arent all hashmaps basically amortized o(1) for insertions?

oh

the regular python dict() is a btreemap?

[sick hazel]

For checking if a string is in a set, wouldn't it depend more on the length of the string than the height of the tree?

by n do u mean the number of string in a set or the number of characters in the longest string of the set?

[torn ferry]

in that case shouldn't key value stores use btrees instead of hashmaps? (im assuming redis uses a hashmap)

"As LevelDB uses LSM-Tree, Redis uses hashtable, InnoDB uses B+Tree" - https://medium.com/@pthtantai97/implement-key-value-store-by-btree-5a100a03da3a

it seems like different data structures are used for differed kv stores

you can configure it, with like sorted sets and lists i think. I dont think btree is an option though

i feel like btrees only matter for range queries, but ill do more research

[digital carbon]

Lol you can't "just" replace C++ with Rust

Porting everything over from C++ to Rust would be a herculean endeavor

But yea teams can start using Rust instead of C++ whenever they start a new project

[granite flax]

You either die a cpp simp or live long enough to become a rust daddy

[digital carbon]

No I'm saying this more from a company's perspective because you talked about adoption

If you meant one can just replace c++ with rust in their skillset, then I totally agree, there's a ton of overlap and rust is an objectively better language in so many ways

[candid torrent]

Hey guys. A recuiter at amazon contacted me about a Jr. Developer role and said it is an Hourly position. What does it mean? How is it different?

[knotty basin]

jr devs at amazon work part time year round i believe

and get paid less than interns (?) but they might have changed the payscales

then when you graduate possible conversion to ft

[candid torrent]

Oh Is it worth it?

I have already graduated.

[knotty basin]

will they even let you do that?

i mean it would be if you were returning to school but i don’t think so since afaik it isn’t fte

altho you might as well follow up w the recruiter to find out more details

[candid torrent]

Ok

[noble canopy]

When is a good time for people graduating in December 2021 to start applying for full time positions?

[hybrid folio]

I’m applying after my internship ends in august

[hybrid folio]

Yes I am

[tidal crescent]

Lmao

Tfw when you have a google on-site but your interviewer doesn’t show up

[oblique bolt]

rip

[thick portal]

yeah experienced this ...one my interviewer never show up in google onsite..lol

[keen onyx]

Ask the recruiter for a free pass

[clear zenith]

lmao a recruiter once scheduled me an interview right smack in the middle of thanksgiving

they made a no show and I got an update the next day where the reschedule and apologized lmao

[worthy spear]

Some Google recruiters have so much audacity tbh idk why

Like it’s always something that goes wrong

[digital carbon]

Google's interview process felt the least personal

I remember them explaining host matching (for internship) in a group call with like 10 other people who also passed interviews lol

Maybe they don't have enough recruiters idk

[thick portal]

my google recruiter isn't even responding after onsite

[slim lake]

they might be on holiday

that's happened like twice to me

[worthy spear]

Idk their pay structure but they just don’t seem motivated to get you hired at all

It kinda continued even when u get offer

Like my recruiter didn’t really do much to help

[last linden]

google pay also ass

they lowball the fuck out of you

and refuse to match other offers unless other offers is facebook

[oblique bolt]

damn

[solemn sage]

how long did google take to respond back after OA for new grad position?

[thick portal]

for me it was 1 day

[azure gull]

If googles pay is ass then what is considered good pay 😭

[last linden]

*in comparison to other big tech companies

[azure gull]

190k is ass??

Nvm I forgot everyone in this server has 300k salary Jane street offers

[modern belfry]

if our company is hiring can we post here or nahhh

[ocean venture]

yeah u have to pm me for approval tho

/s

😉

[modern belfry]

You’re not a mod tho

[ocean venture]

lol im kiddin

[modern belfry]

o ya I saw then/s oops

Thought it was a misspelled emoji

[ocean venture]

haha u good

[knotty basin]

yeahhhh no google's pay is not ass lol

yall rly be out here bein like 150-200k total comp is ass!!!!!!

cmon man lol

[azure gull]

Yeah it’s very bizarre

Some people in this server are extremely out of touch

[last linden]

google is pretty well known for lowballing if you don't come from FAANG or have competing offers

[last linden]

explain how using comparable tech companies as a base point is out of touch

[knotty basin]

lowballing for google is still quite a bit, i think is their point

i understand what you mean about using comparable companies

but seriously i mean if google's is low i don't know what is considered high bc google's higher across the board than msft and amazon no?

so that only leaves fb

[azure gull]

Top 18 big tech companies by revenue, which ones pay more than google?

Facebook and apple maybe

[last linden]

lol, don't need to have higher revenue to pay more

[azure gull]

That pic doesn’t prove anything but alright lol

[last linden]

to be fair i'm not sure what showing me a list of companies by revenue does either

[peak dirge]

@last linden doesn’t know what they’re talking about they’ve been on the Blind app too long

[azure gull]

You said googles pay is ass compared to other comparable tech companies

Honestly calling googles pay ass in general is an outrageous statement😂

[knotty basin]

okay but again coming back to the point that even if you could conceivably get a little bit more money somewhere else, google's pay is not ass

[azure gull]

This is google we’re talking about here

[peak dirge]

Dude acts like 6 figures is a lowball while the average American is making like $50k a year

Like c’mon man

[knotty basin]

maybe if all you want is the best paying tech job possible but like 120-150k base salary is amazing

especially to start

[knotty basin]

yeah this is the perspective here

[azure gull]

Some people are just out of touch lol

[knotty basin]

like i want a good offer same as everyone but i'm not gonna snub google of all places just bc they pay 10-20k less than airbnb or something? lol

[azure gull]

Right lol

[knotty basin]

i totally get other legitimate complaints like feeling snubbed by their recruiting team or their wlb or literally anything else

[peak dirge]

I really hope this man isn’t out here telling his friends not to accept a Google offer because the pay is “ass” lmaoooo

[woven quartz]

what he's saying is just that their offers are hard to change if you don't have counter offers from other big companies

[azure gull]

That’s not what he said lol

He/she

[woven quartz]

how do u prove they're lowballing then

[azure gull]

He/she said googles pay is ass in comparison to other big tech companies

[woven quartz]

they might just always give decent offers that are hard to negotiate with

[knotty basin]

yeah i get this (and have heard about this experience thru friends and my partner) but i think the point i'm trying to make is that even if they're hard to change they're still objectively speaking incredible offers in the scheme of things

yes maybe not the highest paying

but certainly great offers

[last linden]

yeah this all comes down to perspectives not seeing eye to eye

[knotty basin]

sure, but i think it is rather arrogant to expect 150+ as a new grad lol

great if you can get that but 100-130 is absolutely nothing to scoff at

(assuming bay area or seattle obvi adjusted for COL elsewhere)

[peak dirge]

A bunch of people in this discord are not going to touch $100k in their first new grad job (unless it’s a big company/unicorn) so please be humble with what you got

[knotty basin]

1000x this ^^^

[last linden]

that's fair

[worthy spear]

^ yea and no problem not having that much to start too, TC that high also is respective to cost of living, area

[woven quartz]

i mean... there is a direct correlation b/w TC and weiner size so.............. makes sense tbh

[worthy spear]

I kinda see both angles. Google does not pay as much as their talent competition imo, but they’re still paying more than 99% of jobs and have unreal benefits so ya it’s sorta out of touch imo

[hybrid folio]

this is absolutely arrogant to expect as a new grad unless you are going to HCOL where honestly the living expenses will make it comparatively the same to 100-130 living in a MCOL or LCOL area.

i have to check myself not wanting to return full time after my internship when the pay is still pretty fucking good compared to most other people's starting jobs. i mean shit what we will make in this discord most people will not see in their lives/careers ever

[worthy spear]

Fr people celebrate breaking 6 figures (of making that out of grad working 90 hour weeks in finance) we’re hella blessed regardless of col

[digital carbon]

I think you misspelled "inverse correlation"

Ok I'll walk myself out

[unkempt echo]

google pays perfectly fine lol

[waxen sundial]

is this why she won’t call me back

/s

[granite flax]

A bunch of people in this discord are not ever going to be handsome (unless they hit the gym and get surgery and that’s still a big maybe) so please be humble with what you got

[worthy spear]

Idk what this has to do w anything lmao

[torn ferry]

studies show that good looking people make more money.. so if yall dont have plastic surgery funds, yall arent investing correctly

[cursive loom]

can i b ur intern

[worthy spear]

Need money to look good. Need to look good for money 🤠

[torn ferry]

thats why we have loans

[unkempt echo]

no ur illegal

[cursive loom]

wtf make me legal

[full shore]

wow r u proposing to hiru 😳😳

[cursive loom]

i propos 2 u 2 bb ❤️

[unkempt echo]

ask ur queen

[cursive loom]

my queen afk rn, i be waiting 2 yr 4 her

[quiet cobalt]

this convo was a fun read lol

[wind relic]

@modern belfry hiring new grad?

[arctic drift]

??

[arctic drift]

???? I can just legalize you

[cursive loom]

Pog u r my queen

My world

[fading iron]

Anyone has experience with C3 AI for DS role?

[marsh ledge]

I interviewed with them a few months ago for a SDE role

[ornate charm]

^^

[weary ice]

Yo does anyone know if Google new grad ask System design questions or just DSA stuff?

[wanton hound]

Just DSA for new grad

[weary ice]

Thank you, @wanton hound! Although, if anyone else had different experiences, do let me know 🙂

[worthy spear]

I got OOD in 1 round.

[weary ice]

Awesome! Thanks for telling me that, @worthy spear.

[worthy spear]

Yeah I’ve gotten lots of “design a class” questions. Idk if that counts

[wind lake]

How many ques do we need to solve averagely to clear Amazon OA1

?

[cursive loom]

probably all of them

[woeful dew]

RNG(0,7)

[knotty basin]

because as someone else mentioned the vast majority of people don't get that and that isn't the market rate for your perceived skills? i meant base salary fwiw, getting 130-150k base is almost unheard of unless it's a faang

i'm not lol

the bay area and seattle doesn't represent all tech jobs

...1-5% is an extremely small % overall

of course it's just one company but collectively faang doesn't make up more than 15% of cs majors in the US and especially not worldwide

and even most faang don't pay 130k base

google does and fb does

amazon and msft not really just from a scroll through new grad salary sharing

the discussion in general was about base?

someone said google's pay was ass which i generally take to mean base and not tc bc tc is useless to you in the short term

not to say it isn't relevant

but anyway

[worthy spear]

id be happy to even have a job....

[knotty basin]

same lol

??? how ya gonna spend stock

that isn't what people generally do lol

anyway my argument was that most people literally never touch 100k in their entire lives

so saying google's pay is ass is incredibly out of touch

i realize this

look alls i'm saying is snubbing google bc it doesn't pay well is fucking absurd

that's it

you can get into semantics all you want

10-20k tc does not make a sizeable difference

right i get that but this group isn't a faang support group lol

it's csc careers

[plucky hinge]

No way most people are

[knotty basin]

so again i say snubbing google for 10-20k better pay at like fucking airbnb is absurd

[plucky hinge]

Maybe most of people who comment

[oblique bolt]

Really?

[wanton hound]

Lmao like who

[oblique bolt]

Most ppl I see comment here work at other places lol

[wanton hound]

and others are still searching

[oblique bolt]

I can only really think of one active person that has Faang

And it's not even for 2021 lol

It's a guarantee for 2022

[timber pike]

Most people who comment in here are def not FAANG lol

[plucky hinge]

How does that work 😂

[timber pike]

People who comment in here are aiming for FAANG companies

[oblique bolt]

Its part of a scholarship program that Amazon runs

[last linden]

my standards are just different sorry for breathing ha ha

[worthy spear]

yeah lowkey this is kind of dumb

[timber pike]

People who have already gotten them are str8 chillin

[plucky hinge]

Whoaaaa that’s crazy

[oblique bolt]

i think you get like 40k in scholarship money and then an Amazon internship after your first year

[last linden]

i remember when this whole server simped stripe

lowkey miss those times

[plucky hinge]

I heard stripe is really bad about exploding offers

[worthy spear]

isn't stripe lowballing now

[granite flax]

[last linden]

stripe has new policy where you don't get stock until 1 year or some shit like that

because people who join now aren't considered part of why stripe is as big as it is now

i don't remember the policy word for word but i know a lot of people are upset at how stripe is handling stock

[worthy spear]

it's the switch from 4 year grant to 1 year

i think lyft is doing something similar too

[last linden]

yeah it's like

instead of 4 year rsu up front

it's fixed at whatever dollar amount at the end of every year

depending on value of the stock

that's all i know

[worthy spear]

yeah you lose a lot of stock appreciation

[last linden]

every time this server talks about doge or shit coin i leave

stonk confuseing

[worthy spear]

we've been in the longest bull run

[strong sand]

Hey guys, I just applied to https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/1544283/software-development-engineer-i-compliance-tech with a referral and got a call from a recruiter the next day itself. Even though the position asks for 1 year of experience, I got an interview call without any experience. Just wanted to let you guys know if anyone is interested in applying

Here is the LinkedIn profile of my recruiter if anyone want to get in touch with her after applying https://www.linkedin.com/in/jyoti-kumari-664393159/

[wind relic]

@strong sand should I contact her before applying? or after

@strong sand thanks for sharing btw

[strong sand]

Your choice. Either should be fine

[weary ice]

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate it man

[clear zenith]

masters
sheesh

[clear zenith]

daily prayers

[granite flax]

[waxen sundial]

[worthy spear]

[woeful dew]

[woven quartz]

[cerulean pivot]

[full shore]

[cursive loom]

prayge

[candid torrent]

[tidal crescent]

How long does it typically take to hear back after google on-site?

[cerulean pivot]

depends when they have the debrief for ur interview

not sure how often google has them

[inland galleon]

[weary ice]

[arctic drift]

Wait not to bring the previous conversation up but I disagree with only considering base for a post-IPO company where you can immediately sell your stocks after they vest. It's almost exactly the same as getting a higher base but /choosing/ to invest $X into RSUs at your company. Just because people decide to hold on doesn't mean that it's not part of their effective salary, especially if it's relatively liquid.

[knotty basin]

oh no i reeeeally don't wanna get into this again sorry lol

[arctic drift]

nono it's good

[knotty basin]

but that's fair

i don't think google's pay is ass even considering tc and that's all i gotta say

[arctic drift]

oh yeah no i dind't want to get into that part

lMAO

[knotty basin]

hahahahahaha

totally also fair

i def see what you're saying

[arctic drift]

obviously my argument goes completely out the door for pre IPO companies xd --actually there's things like equityzen so maaaybe

[worthy spear]

do these pre ipo companies let you sell your stock if you don’t want it?

Like can you just sell your robinhood shares internally

[stone monolith]

[novel spoke]

depends some firms have liquidation events every so often

you can also sell your shares second hand although it might be devalued depending on demand

[woeful dew]

Does Tesla send emails through freshteam or is that a scam?

Yeah nvm looks like a scam

[spice bane]

Hey guys. In mtl. My buddies company is looking for a c# & .net dev. With 1-2 years of experience in montreal. The pay isnt too crazy but not too bad for someone just starting - The range would likely be between 50k to 60k

[bold whale]

anyone did Coca-Cola junior full stack interview?

[graceful hazel]

anyone recently gave intuit new grad interview?

[clear zenith]

the bot wont recognize the company but I'm gonna have my final interview tomorrow lads

wish me luck

[oblique bolt]

[magic quiver]

[woven quartz]

[stone monolith]

https://www.herffjones.com/about/press-releases/herff-jones-cyber-security-incident-update/ FYI

If you purchased a crappy cap and gown recently, check your credit card statements.

[candid torrent]

[spare violet]

[gloomy sonnet]

[keen onyx]

How's the difficulty of Google New Grad interviews recently? If anyone interviewed recently

[dreamy crest]

I know this has been asked before but when exactly do applications for fall grads open

all I find under new grad are people who graduate in may-aug

what

[strong sand]

Hey guys anybody interviewed with Rubrik recently?

[worthy spear]

From the one friend I know that did this recently it’s a solid medium

[tranquil pebble]

Has anybody interviewed with Yahoo Sports(Verizon Media)?
Would really appreciate any information on the level of questions they have for the onsite interviews.

[rancid gull]

just did my snap onsite, got absolutely railed

good practice i guess

[knotty basin]

same lol sorry to hear

[worthy spear]

sorry to hear for both of you

[rancid gull]

nah it's all g i was lowkey like shiet i guess this place ain't for me

[worthy spear]

was it a cool experience at least

[real walrus]

was it bc they asked LC hards or ?

[rancid gull]

i'd say they were med-hard yeah, it was moreso the way the interviews were conducted and the followups tho

[knotty basin]

i had the exact same experience, what stuff happened to you?

as in not wanting to work there after experiencing the onsite lol

[rancid gull]

I guess 2 of the interviewers felt very rushed and dismissive

[knotty basin]

same here lol and one guy was flat out rude to me i was like

[topaz jay]

I didn't get internship offer for summer and graduating by the dec21. What should I focus while applying for full time job and preparing for interview?

[granite flax]

fall internship is still a possibility (you'd just work full time i guess and end up graduating in spring)
but either way make good projects and ofc the lc grind

[azure gull]

I hate those kind of interviewers

[knotty basin]

it's the actual worst lol

[clear zenith]

just finished the zscaler OA

couldnt finish the final question but the rest was fine. I think the last one could be a lc hard (easier side)

[topaz jay]

Ok thanks for the suggestion

[ocean venture]

One of my zoom interviewers barely talked the entire interview and looked like he was on his phone while i was doing the coding question

Made me feel like shit lol

[knotty basin]

that’s so awful, the least they can do is give you at least 95% of their attention for the interview, dunno why these engineers don’t even empathize with what it’s like to be the interviewee as they had to do it too once

[ocean venture]

I agree. I still tried to do well and explained everything I was doing but he honestly said maybe 2 words the entire 45 minutes after the introduction of the question

So disengaged

[knotty basin]

holy shit man

that’s fucking brutal

[ocean venture]

And ofc i didn't get an offer lmao

Not sure if it was how i performed or just bc of that but it definitely was frustrating

[knotty basin]

yeah that’s so frustrating to feel like you maybe could have if the interviewer was engaged (or if your performance got thrown off bc your interviewer wasn’t engaged)

[ocean venture]

I got an optimal solution but doesn't matter if u get unlucky ;(

I was even asking him technical details of what they used and work flow and he barely answered my questions it was like oh uh we use react i think

Like ...????(

[worthy spear]

this was at zoom?

[knotty basin]

WYM “YOU THINK” LMAOOO

LIKE UR THE ONE WHO WORKS THERE

[ocean venture]

Yeah

[worthy spear]

yikes

[ocean venture]

Right? I tried to show him that i was interested in the stack they were using and wanted to know more about workflows so I asked about version control and code review and he was like uh

Yeah we use git

[worthy spear]

I had a much better experience when I interviewed with them though it was for an internship

[ocean venture]

My first interviewer was great, he was an actual manager

The interviewer that sucked was just a front end dev who had started a month or two ago

[knotty basin]

this is even worse he’s so fresh off the interview process you’d think he’d be understanding

[waxen sundial]

interviewing 2 months into the job?

god damn

[ocean venture]

Yep LMAO

I got screwed over

Both of them were about 2 months in

[worthy spear]

im going to do that so i can ruin young interviewees' dreams

[ocean venture]

But the manager had at least been in similar roles at Cisco and other companies

[ocean venture]

You would have thought lmfao

[worthy spear]

is the manager female?

[ocean venture]

Actually i think they were only a month, i interviewed in April and they started in March lol

No he was a guy

[worthy spear]

oh oops

[ocean venture]

Ptobably late 30s early 40s

[severe jay]

how long do you normally get for oa1 from amazon

my email literally does not say

iirc its 3 days?

nvm says at the very bottom lol - 5 days

[onyx surge]

u got amazon oa for full time?

[severe jay]

ya

[slim inlet]

is anyone in the hiring rounds for sap - svnt? i thought i was on the UX track but i just got informed im on front end and i cant remember if i did or didnt choose that im so confused. what was the ux track like for those who did that one?

[slim lake]

Has anyone been in a situation where you got ghosted after negotiating but before you receive the official offer letter

feeling paranoid rn lol

recruiter hasn't responded in a day and a half and isn't picking up call

[slim lake]

Ok he picked up my call now - turns out he's been "replying" to the wrong email address the past 2 days 😭 Kill me now

[woeful dew]

Had Google onsite.

Misunderstood the requirements. Wrote pseudocode, interviewer corrected me, haphazardly wrote optimal code in the last 10-15 minutes.

Should I be worried?

[hybrid folio]

idk. sounds good enough

[worthy spear]

Sounds fine to me. You don’t need to be perfect and while you should’ve asked, it doesn’t seem like the end of the world

[woeful dew]

Aight thanks guys

[frosty orbit]

I have got a Phone Round at Twitter coming up, any tips and suggestions ? Bit nervous and excited👀 🤨

[worthy spear]

my amazon status changed from under review to application submitted(yesterday (Tuesday) night). I had my one hour phone interview on Monday. Any idea about my situation? (role : SDE-1, not NEW GRAD)

TIA

Under Consideration**

[burnt karma]

anybody here received a Goldman Sachs OA? What should I expect?

[sick hazel]

got google technical tomorrow .. anything that I must revise within the next 24 hours?

any resources?

[storm crane]

anyone going with Verizon Media in Dulles, VA?

[woven quartz]

Stuff in #699532227536486451 was pretty accurate for me. I had the robot question

Got rejected even though i completed everything but who knows

[worthy spear]

Honestly i just did the blind 75 questions and it was enough but if it’s coming soon just go watch the how we hire videos. I think they actually do value communication and attitude just as much as a working solution. I’d just do a pramp or 2. You don’t wanna burn out the day before

[worthy spear]

yes

[buoyant ruin]

https://seanprashad.com/leetcode-patterns/
I found this guys website last night.
He combined Grokking and Blind-75 into a single checklist that lists companies as well.

Its amazing.

@worthy spear Back at ya

Oh shit I @'d you.
Many apologies

[spice belfry]

that's amazing! I was trying to do something similar in Notion but this is much better

thank you!

[burnt karma]

Thank you so much. I'm sorry you got rejected :(( That sucks.

[wind acorn]

distribute this to your underclassmen as a graduation parting gift

[hybrid folio]

Im on my phone right now but can you dm this to me?

[clear monolith]

!process OA AWS

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[sick hazel]

damn thanks for the suggestion bro .. gotta keep the energy up

[frosty orbit]

!process OA Amazon

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[delicate tulip]

Hey, guys. It has been a while from last time I checked this channel.

I have a quick question here, which one is more important on resume, work experience or project?

I'm revising my resume recently. I want to put them on one page. But there are also some cool projects I don't wanna cut.

Thanks, I agree with you.

[woven quartz]

can add more than one bullet if u think it's worth it

[haughty heath]

Anybody done the Facebook discover production engineer program before ?

[raven sinew]

How to choose between snap and verily? Any recommendation?

[slim lake]

Series A Startup LinkSquares - Software Engineering ML in Boston or Rakuten, Billion dollar E-commerce MNC - Big Data Engineer in San Mateo
Which should I choose?

[knotty basin]

what was the experience you had interviewing w both and did you ask any questions about team composition, wlb, location etc?

[knotty basin]

whichever one strikes a good balance of location/pay/career track for you

[worthy spear]

Verily is so nice I’d do that

[slim lake]

the only real draw of the startup rn is that it would probably be easier to transition to a ML role which is what I really want. But then again their data science team is currently 3 people. Probably gonna go with the bigger company because having some desirable stuff on my resume would be good for once. And I need visa. If I really want ML I should prob apply for PhD.

[knotty basin]

all that logic sounds pretty sound to me

[ornate charm]

Def verily

It’s a google company ur gonna get all the crazy benefits etc

[knotty basin]

oh shit didn’t know that, that’s cool

Wonder if google subsidiaries will adopt google wfh policies?

since google just went 60/40 wfh split

[worthy spear]

Other bets don’t automatically get all google benefits

[ornate charm]

Well verily does 🙂

And u could jump to google within a year or two

Yup

[worthy spear]

I don’t think that’s true but would love to be proved wrong

[ornate charm]

Verily has excellent benefits -- health care, 401k match, giving matching, development programs, bonus, equity program, phenomenal maternity & paternity leave, free lunch, free coffee and snacks, commuter benefits, and more! Great 401k matching, healthcare and at work perks! Same as Google perks and benefits.

Right off a Glassdoor review. Now idk if he’s lying, but here you are.

🙂

[worthy spear]

Yeah that’s not accurate. They get their own stocks but like it’s pretty close. I wouldn’t join another bet just because it’s a bet (or for promises of transfer, because it’s not guaranteed) The work verily does in its own though is super cool, and I’d join it in a heartbeat

[ornate charm]

Verily > Snap

Don’t know about what ur saying

Hella Glassdoor reviews say they have google benefits basically but ol

Ok*

Maybe they’ve changed this year

[worthy spear]

They have the benefits I’m saying you get a different stock and you’re separate from Google

[raven sinew]

TC is similar. I am more interested in Snap’s product, but it is more risky to choose Snap since the stock price is high (but it might still go up). Verily has opportunities to go public, even it is not going to IPO, the stock is still valuable. But there re not lots of information about verily and I am not quite interested in life science😂

[ornate charm]

Makes sense I wasn’t talking about stock anyways lol

[worthy spear]

is verily stock liquid?

[ornate charm]

Benefits

[raven sinew]

The cons of Verily is the vesting schedule is only 2 year

[worthy spear]

How’s that a bad thing?

Don’t u want it sooner?

[raven sinew]

After 2 year, I will have compensation cliff. And if it is not IPO at that time, I would not know should I still wait or not

[worthy spear]

Yeah that’s fair. Still worth though

Did you get same as Google tc?

[raven sinew]

I am not sure how is google tc. But it is really competitive

[worthy spear]

Google is really high base low stock from what I’ve seen. I was asking because if same then it’s not the end of the world?

You’ll still be really comfortable with base and you get a chance at making real $$$

[knotty basin]

for what it’s worth snap’s wlb seems kinda sketch lmfao

interviewing with them was red flags left and right

not sure if that helps any

[severe jay]

anyone have any experience asking recuriters at amazon to move you from New Grad Req at one location to SDE I at another ? i

right but i dont think they have open new grad positions for seattle atm only va, in my case there is an open req for an SDE I role in NY

but im currently in the oa cycle for new grad vancouver

[past mantle]

Anybody have opinions on choosing between Twilio or Amazon?

[ornate charm]

Twilio ^

Amazon motto is hire fast fire fast

[woven quartz]

i was gna say... depends on the team

if its AWS watch your back lol

[knotty basin]

yeah agreed, wlb probably gonna be better at twilio and less likely to get pip’d lmao

[oblique bolt]

idk if this is the right place to put this but

https://jobs.hp.com/ShowJob/Id/10633/College Graduate Software Engineer?prefilters=none&CloudSearchLocation=none&CloudSearchValue=none

just saw a new listing for new grad SWE at HP

[slim lake]

how do I politely reject a company

"it's not you, it's me"

[knotty basin]

“i’ve decided to go a different direction and move forward with another company, but i appreciated the opportunity to learn more about the company and team”

give em a taste of their own medicine

[slim lake]

Hmm it'd take a lot of money for me to choose a series A startup over a billion dollar MNC

[knotty basin]

you might be able to negotiate the startup higher then get back to the other company with a “hey, would love to work here but i got x offer from x company can you match it?”

[slim lake]

God they already took a week for me to send me the official letter

I feel like I'm playing with fire if I do that shit

But I know what you mean

[knotty basin]

well at bigger companies once you pass HC it isn’t gonna hurt to ask

bc they aren’t gonna reject you for asking for more

the recruiter can only be like “yeah i can’t give you that it’s outside what hc approved” or “yeah sure i can do that” basically

at startups recruiters def have more leeway but you were already gonna reject them anyway

so if they retract the offer oh well

[slim lake]

Hmm makes sense. I should at least wait for both offer letters LOL

[knotty basin]

(communicating what my friend who is a google recruiter has told me, may be slightly different at other big companies but generally speaking)

[slim lake]

It doesn't feel right having the upper hand after going through all that trauma hahaha

[knotty basin]

yeah def wait until you get offer letters tho

hahaha you deserve to have the upper hand after all that suffering

fuck these companies they do not give a fuck about you so don’t feel bad for scalping them for all they’re worth

[slim lake]

they were actually really nice which was surprising to me

Got me a 5k paybump before I even asked. But maybe that's a strategy lol

it feels so wrong not signing the letter ASAP just after I got it. But I must resist.

Dat sweet USA guarantee

[golden slate]

got waitlisted for amazon new grad position rip 💀

[ocean venture]

do they still have an active one?

and if so do u have a link hehe

i'm desperate

[golden slate]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/1547894/2021-software-development-engineer-university

[clear zenith]

oh shit its out?

[knotty basin]

no that's 2021 not 2022

[mighty wigeon]

Is there any other company still hiring?

[oblique bolt]

Yeah I just saw HP post something a few hours ago

[mighty wigeon]

Applied👍

[elder maple]

https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=07e969703bc4f7b6&from=ja&alid=5f4eb6f25a1df73fabd92c63&tk=1f65pc002uea7808&utm_campaign=job_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&rgtk=1f65pc002uea7808

I didnt know tesla used Go

[candid torrent]

New grad role requiring 2-4 years of experience

[restive cairn]

send some teeps and treeks folks

#general message

[graceful hazel]

I have my karat video interview coming up... anyone can help me with the resources I'm doing karat tagged

[severe jay]

bruh they’re already waitlisting people ?

[golden slate]

nah this is for 2021 position haha

[severe jay]

ya i know but they posted it like a month ago 😭

I just got the OA haha

[golden slate]

pretty sure it has been up for awhile

I applied back in feb

[severe jay]

guessing there aren’t that many spots

oh nvm

mine is canada yours is us

[golden slate]

i'm canada also

xd

[severe jay]

rip

[golden slate]

it's probably their last stretch for this position

idk how waitlisting works tho tbh

if I did better in onsite, would've I gotten the position without being waitlisted?

or was this gonna happen regardless

[severe jay]

pretty sure it happens regardless, means you cleared the hiring bar but no more offers left to give out

amazons a mammoth of a company i don’t think recruiters even get a chance to sync up with one another so they’re just throwing offers out till they run out

[golden slate]

yeah I guess I can only wait haha

gl on your OA!

[dapper dock]

How do you contact recruiters the right way?

[still marsh]

Last year's Amazon Waitlist. I would never forget. Was waitlisted in Jan, and no response till June.

[hard bluff]

Become one

[native dock]

hey guys a little new to the new grad process, when can i expect FT applications to start coming out for larger companies

[real pawn]

july/aug

[native dock]

im graduating this december. is there anyway i can take adv. of this? does that give me any notable opportunities rather than graduating in may?

[ocean venture]

An earlier start maybe

That's about it

[rugged yarrow]

Hi, I got an email from the google for the snapshot survey and the OA for the University Grad position. Does anyone else got something similar too? I completed both of them and it has been 7 days but I got no reply. My OA went very good. I was able to complete both the questions in 24 mins as compared to 90 mins allotted. Anyone knows where can I contact them or where to approach?

[weary ice]

Took me about 10 days to hear back after the OA, @rugged yarrow.

I'd say relax, as usually there'll be a bunch of different recruiters getting in touch with you to set up your interviews.

[rugged yarrow]

Okay! Thank you! Do you have any suggestions what type of topics I should focus on more for the interview? I was thinking of DP, Recursion more and less on Trees or Graphs for the Phone Interview Round.

[weary ice]

There's no phone interview round! it's just 5 interviews, 4 technical, 1 behavioral.

[last linden]

yeah if you pass OA you go straight to onsite

[weary ice]

And I'm still prepping for my interview, but I guess those are good topics to cover. And I'm planning to touch up OOD as well, just to be on the safer side.

[rugged yarrow]

Really, that's more scary lol!

So how many days you scheduled your interview after the call?

[subtle grove]

Can someone let me know what is wepay interview process like? Thanks.

[weary ice]

I scheduled it for 3 weeks after since I was busy in one of the weeks in between moving places.

[woeful dew]

What stage are you on?

OA --> 1 hour phone interview --> 4 virtual onsites

Onsite will be about algorithms, coding style, system design

with one informal call for 30 minutes

[long drum]

!problems Goldman Sachs

[feral marten]

!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot

[manic turret]

any guidance for karat interview plz?

[worthy spear]

be fast & also look up all the companies that use karat and the questions they have on LC and glassdoor

they seem to reuse from a question bank

and I mean be fast as in just get a working solution instead of the best complexity since you can pass with (2+ completed) brute force from experience (but likely can't pass if you only solve one even if you solved it with optimal time space complexity)

[manic turret]

thanks for your advice!

[worthy spear]

yeah good luck!

[wet creek]

Guys ! Is it okay to apply for another position at amazon after getting rejected from one

?

[oblique bolt]

You can apply but you'll be auto rejected because of the cooldown

[mighty wigeon]

phone interview ？ onsite？

[timber pike]

I applied for internship, got rejected final round then applied to new grad for fun and still got the OA and everything

So as long as it’s not the same role, I think you’ll be fine

[wet creek]

It was phone interview well more like video on chime !

[wet creek]

ohh okay so that makes it clear I can still apply for different position

[still marsh]

Any group for Walmart Joinees?

[tranquil pebble]

Okay, this is going to be a long message, but I need some advice on if I'm reading the situation right.

So I had this 4 round onsite interview on Tuesday last week. I was told they'd get back to me in a week or so. The last round was pretty weird. It was conducted by a hiring manager who asked me a coding question that I would say was one of the harder lc mediums. I wasn't able to find the most optimal solution and the interviewer asked me think about it and mail him the solution. The interview lasted 90 mins instead of the scheduled 60 mins.
I emailed him the solution early next morning (my interview ended at 7:30pm), and I received a call from the recruiter that afternoon asking about my visa status, salary expectations and pending interviews. The next day the hiring manager replied on my email saying that the solution I emailed him was correct and asked if I had heard from the recruiter.

Now all this sounds pretty positive to me and I'm wondering if I'm reading into it too much.
Any thoughts?

[ornate charm]

Sounds positive to me. Doesn’t seem like they’d ask visa status and salary expectations if they weren’t serious about you. Then again, wait till everything is in paper

Other than that, looks g

^

[knotty basin]

^^^

[tranquil pebble]

Yeah. thank you for your input.
The wait is pretty nerve wracking tbh

[keen cipher]

weird ass situation but sounds positive. keep expectations low regardless

[wise bloom]

Having to wait a weekend for onsite results is very anxiety inducing, good luck though, hopefully it works out

[digital carbon]

I'm only reading good things here

[fiery otter]

Does Amazon reject

Right after debugging OA

Sometimes

Or it's usually always

All 3 OAs

[severe jay]

i’ve been rejected after debugging in the past

[ornate charm]

Got rejected after work-styles OA 3 with a perfect score on both OA1 and OA2

[fiery otter]

Goddam

[zinc patrol]

did u receive an email or you checked it on the job portal

And how long did it take for you to receive this message

[worthy spear]

2-3 business days in general

[ornate charm]

Email and took like 3-4 days if I remember correctly

[barren wadi]

Did any face difficulty accessing square's New grad codesignal assessment that got displayed during the application process?

[ancient hill]

Anyone got their offer delayed at Better.com due to IPO ?

[ocean venture]

Yeah it didn't work for me

[woven scroll]

wow @ancient hill didn't they get back to you super late too

that sucks

[radiant snow]

do you know any companies actively hiring MLEs?

[woeful dew]

Anyone here who can tell me what to expect for the goldman sachs onsite?
In particular, these two topics:
Software design and architecture including testing and debugging
SDLC and Best Practices

Also. Any resources for these two?^

[ocean venture]

Weekends are the worst cause you know you ain't hearing back from nobody

[zenith marten]

How many of you guys had in-person graduations?

Mine was online but I feel jealous of my friends at other schools who got to graduate in person

[dreamy crest]

Mine was in person

[elder maple]

Mine was literally them talking over slides

For 2020

[wet rover]

mines in person

[tired bay]

Mine was in person

[worthy spear]

Yes, it happened with my friend this week.

[ocean venture]

Y'all lucky af

Mines still virtual

[worthy spear]

Mine had option for in person, however, had to verify covid vaccination stuff 2 weeks before. Was too late for me. End of day not much to it, I just watched virtually. Took pictures.

[ocean venture]

I wish that was an option

We haven't even had ours yet

[light flame]

It happened with my friend too, total BS

[mint pollen]

in person

[fossil crown]

We can still apply to new grad roles this recruiting season right (Spring 2021 graduates)?

[ocean venture]

Yeah

No reason you can't

Employers generally say you're not a new grad 6 months to a year after

[junior flare]

mine was in person

glad im not the only one that doesnt have a job btw

feel like everyone ik started applying last winter

[knotty basin]

you aren’t the only one lol

[fiery otter]

Ima about to bomb

This Easy clSss

Class final rn

So I don't graduate this semester

[junior flare]

hahahaha

nah bro you'll be good

[fiery otter]

Cuz I have an internship for the summer

But then I'll be unemployed

And then what am I gonna do my brother

[junior flare]

Dude you're set

I come from a good program but 0 experience

Cherish that internship, network, meet people, save contacts

[ocean venture]

tiktok opened up a backend position

also vmware is hiring new grad it looks like

/entry level

[knotty basin]

oh shit vmware

can you send me the posting? @ocean venture

[ocean venture]

Yeah one moment

Check out this job at VMware: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/2552475173

[knotty basin]

that's new grad?

[ocean venture]

New grad/entry level as far as I can tell

[knotty basin]

gotcha gotcha

[ocean venture]

Cuz required is 1-3 years of experience or equivalent education experience

Which tells me they're looking for either recent grads or new grads, but who knows :P

Still can't hurt to apply

[knotty basin]

yeah i agree

gonna get my friend to generate a referral link lol

[ocean venture]

Jealous

I'm goin in dry

[worthy spear]

arkanice got referrals to everything

[ocean venture]

Truuu

[knotty basin]

i got hella referrals man

cal poly grads stacked

[ocean venture]

Western Washington University grads not stacked at all

:(

[knotty basin]

the only pro of graduating late and then not finding a job immediately

all my peers already got jobs

[ocean venture]

I've got a friend at amazon and Microsoft but neither seem interested in referring

[knotty basin]

so i just be hittin everyone up like hello job pls

[ocean venture]

As well google

Too nervous tbh

[worthy spear]

all my peers work at IBM or Amazon

[knotty basin]

that's so weird? those places pay like 2.5-5k per successful conversion

i'm gonna refer anyone who hits me up when i get fte lol

[ocean venture]

Same

[knotty basin]

i don't get that though

weirdchamp

[worthy spear]

i don't refer either

unless I think they're very capable

[knotty basin]

same lol amazon has an office in my tiny college town so a ton of ppl from my school work there

it doesn't hurt you though right?

as long as you aren't spam referring?

[ocean venture]

I mean I've got more experience than both of them 🤷‍♂️

[oblique bolt]

doesn't cal poly also have an SWE degree that teaches AWS lol?

[worthy spear]

no but I don't want to help :^)

[ocean venture]

If someone reaches out for a referral and they go to my school I'm giving them a referral ain't no time to decide whether someone is capable. Help ur classmates out you know?

[knotty basin]

i think? they have a software engineering degree but not super familiar with the course content

[knotty basin]

damn chaotic evil

[oblique bolt]

Ah

[ocean venture]

Extremely chaotic evil lol

[worthy spear]

i mean I'll help people who help me out too but

i dont like freeloaders

[knotty basin]

haha i mean i don't think it's freeloading it's just how networking goes

[ocean venture]

Is asking for a referral really free loading?

[knotty basin]

if you help someone out in the future maybe they'll help you

[ocean venture]

I think you have a poor view on this

Karma's a real thing. Just help people out lol

Stop trying to gatekeep tbh

[worthy spear]

🤷‍♀️

not at my school lol no one returns the favor

all freeloaders

[oblique bolt]

I mean maybe they're talking about rando's dming them for a referral lol

[knotty basin]

i think randos within reason

[ocean venture]

Yeah randos is a diff thing tho I'm talking more like ur class mates

[knotty basin]

if they went to my school ok

but like

5th degree connection lil weird

[timber pike]

tbh I wouldn't mind referring people if I knew their work ethic was really good

[oblique bolt]

ye

[ornate charm]

Got you in 2 months my guy

[knotty basin]

what a homie

[ocean venture]

🙏

[ornate charm]

I referred mad people to my old Cisco manager too

[ocean venture]

Hopefully I'll have a job by then but if not i greatly appreciate it

[ornate charm]

I’m here 2 help

[timber pike]

Legend

[knotty basin]

i like how i was like "i'm gonna do my amazon OA" then this chat starts poppin off

[timber pike]

A man for the people

[knotty basin]

so nvm

[knotty basin]

absolute king shit

[keen cipher]

the real batman

[ocean venture]

Idk i have always felt that there's nothing to lose by helping ppl (especially if you have any connection to them)

Never know when one of those connections could come up in the future

[limber mesa]

i doubt this means anything but i did 3 amazon OAs w/ all the coding stuff right and i know i did well on the logical/behavioral
and got ghosted
(boycott amazon)

[knotty basin]

not the hero we deserve but the hero we need

[limber mesa]

this

[knotty basin]

mine's sde1 so we gonna see

[limber mesa]

gl

[worthy spear]

im just picky about who i refer but yea maybe I'm a bad person haha

[ornate charm]

Agreed

[knotty basin]

ty i'm avoiding it LOL

[ocean venture]

Doesn't make you a bad person, just how you do things

[knotty basin]

agree ^

i do think it could help you out later on if nothing else

networking in any aspect isn't really wasted

[ocean venture]

Yeah for sure

[knotty basin]

if you help someone out then down the line you can more freely ask them for a referral or to put in a good word

never know who's gonna be the person to get you the job in the end lol

[ocean venture]

Exactly

[knotty basin]

not criticizing tho @worthy spear it's no one's choice but yours ultimately

[ocean venture]

True there's no pressure

[worthy spear]

meh I'm not going to try to argue this- I just have a different experience with people around me. friends and people i believe in only 😤

[granite flax]

i would pretty much auto-refer

• people from my school
• people from this server who aren't wack or ugly

[knotty basin]

wack or ugly

[ocean venture]

fuck well brb getting plastic surgery

[granite flax]

i have a reputation to uphold, you must understand

[knotty basin]

that's totally fine it's your call, wasn't trying to argue or anything

[worthy spear]

damn im wack

[limber mesa]

arguments aren't necessarily/inherently bad 😉

[ocean venture]

I'm a lot.more attractive in pixel form

;)

[worthy spear]

this is also from my experience with asking people who ive helped in classes and assignments for referrals

always some excuse that basically means no

they can all go fuck themselves

[ocean venture]

Yeah i wouldn't feel too inclined to refer ppl who weren't willing to help me out lol

[knotty basin]

yeah if you've asked em and they gave excuses or said no that's different lol

[limber mesa]

yeah i feel like many schools are like that and it breeds selfish competitiveness which may or may not be useful

[worthy spear]

thats just majority of cs people i know at my school

[ocean venture]

Is it a big cs school?

Or just the vibe

[worthy spear]

vibe

[knotty basin]

that's really weird my school vibe is totally not like that

[ocean venture]

Sadge

;(

[knotty basin]

varies so drastically

[ornate charm]

Guys just use rooftopslushie

And pay for referrals

[ocean venture]

Wait what lmfao

[ornate charm]

🤩😬

[ocean venture]

Is that a thing

[limber mesa]

yea i go to UNC which has like 1.2k people in CS now and everyone's pretty helpful and willing to share

[ornate charm]

Yessir

[granite flax]

isn't rooftopslushie the reason referrals lost so much weight lol

[ocean venture]

Sheesh

[ornate charm]

Never used it but my boy has

[worthy spear]

please don't buy referrals

you gotta be down down bad

[ornate charm]

Lmfao id Rather pay for a referral and get a job than not have a job

[ocean venture]

Yeahhh

Same tbh

[worthy spear]

& also a lot of companies let you pick between "i know this guy hes great" referral and "met him through networking"

[ornate charm]

Not that I’ve ever used this rooftop or have paid for a referral lol

[ocean venture]

Market is rough yo

You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes

[knotty basin]

gotta do what ya gotta do

[worthy spear]

i just think they're useless

[ornate charm]

Yeah do whatever you need to do

[knotty basin]

lol dan i literally was typing that as you said it

[worthy spear]

my friend paid for 8 referrals

0 interviews

[granite flax]

whatever u have to do

date someone just to get referral if u have to

[ocean venture]

Plus buying a referral seems like the lowest level of immorality when it comes to the job hunt lmao

[ornate charm]

Might be an issue with ur friend’s resume then no offense

[ocean venture]

Referrals don't mean shit if ur resume sucks

[last linden]

companies should do referrals like stripe where they make the referring a part of the referee's interview loop

[knotty basin]

been there done that but then they were like nah i wouldn't refer you

[timber pike]

Honestly find some mentors on LinkedIn from companies/roles you want to work in - someone is bound to respond, keep in touch and ask for referral when the time comes

[worthy spear]

either the people referring gave too many referrals or checked the "barely know dis dood" referral

[last linden]

make them think twice "do you really want to work with this kid"

[timber pike]

It's worked for me, I found my mentor at Microsoft this way

[ocean venture]

'then i won't date you'

Heheheh

[worthy spear]

and na ive checked his resume it's pretty good

[knotty basin]

that's indeed what happened

[ocean venture]

Lmao absolute savage

Love it

[granite flax]

ngl i have cold emailed people and when they're my same race they respond often

i can somewhat agree with hitting up people but i don't do it much eh

[ocean venture]

How did you got about this?

[last linden]

mexicans have to help each other out

[ocean venture]

In terms of finding the mentors

[granite flax]

what is mexico

[knotty basin]

jokes on them i didn't need a twitch referral bc i got an interview anyway

[ocean venture]

Go kill it to rub it in his face

[worthy spear]

so all those 🥺 👉👈 girls asking for referrals are like arkanice huh

[knotty basin]

show up first day to his office wassup

[ornate charm]

I mean tbh I’ve gotten referrals to capital 1, Pinterest,and Redfin off hitting up people on LinkedIn and conversing

[last linden]

🥺👉👈

[granite flax]

yeah what did you expect, they liked u for ur personality?

[ornate charm]

LinkedIn dm works sometimes

[knotty basin]

the uwu referral girls

[timber pike]

Asked for tips/advice on finding internships and asked for a resume review. Not everyone responds but for those who do, it's helpful asf

[worthy spear]

idk i dont open their messages

[ocean venture]

Resume review is great I'm trying to get more professionals reviewing my resume lol

[knotty basin]

that's a good idea i'mma steal that

[timber pike]

Yeah, just don't open up with a billion things

[ocean venture]

Nope i stole it first sorry ark

I'm gonna message anyone u message

[knotty basin]

we can both steal it

[ocean venture]

Hehe

[knotty basin]

lmao stalk my linkedin connections

[timber pike]

Usually ask for a resume review after chatting back and forth a bit

[ocean venture]

😎

How do you normally open it up?

[timber pike]

wassup G

[knotty basin]

give template message for socially awkward engineer plz

[granite flax]

Subject: former ex google applicant (made it to 2nd round)

[ocean venture]

Just like hey I'm really interested in x company and wanted to hear about your experience

Lmfao

(made it to OA)

[worthy spear]

hi 🥺 referral pls 👉👈

[knotty basin]

i laughed audibly

[ocean venture]

(didn't do the OA)

[oblique bolt]

Don't forget to add this to your resume too

[timber pike]

nah just say "hey I hope you're well. I'm an aspiring insert at insert University and was hoping to get some advice for insert...etc.

[worthy spear]

do you get responses

[knotty basin]

it's going very first line under my name

[ocean venture]

Under?

[timber pike]

I've gotten my mentor from Microsoft that way

[ocean venture]

It's a part of my name

[timber pike]

I don't know if it

will work for recruiters

[worthy spear]

i had better luck with recruiters than engineers

[timber pike]

but for mentors/referrals it def has a good chance

ah really?

Im the opposite

lo

[ocean venture]

Bruh every recruiter ive msged or emailed has not responded

[worthy spear]

got a few googlers to review my resume and flame shit out of it but we didn't talk after

[ocean venture]

Feels bad

[timber pike]

Feels fucking bad

[knotty basin]

i wanna hit up this recruiter i've followed on instagram for 5 years bc they're into powerlifting

and mention it

but i feel like that'd be stalker level weird

[timber pike]

but hey if it got roasted that means you got some good feedback right

[granite flax]

go like their old photos to indicate u wanna talk

[knotty basin]

down bad

[granite flax]

a photo from 2013

[ocean venture]

Ask him his bench max and then mock it

Guaranteed referral

[oblique bolt]

make sure to format it nicely too

[knotty basin]

oh my god

[timber pike]

this still makes me laugh

[oblique bolt]

i had to search through linkedin for it again

[knotty basin]

is this like real i can't

[oblique bolt]

always makes me laugh too lol

[oblique bolt]

yes its real

[worthy spear]

i wasn't a swe at the time so my major feedback was that I had no experience and im gonna have to fucking kill any interview i get haha

[oblique bolt]

posted by a recruiter on linkedin lol

[knotty basin]

that hurts

SOMEONE REALLY PUT THAT ON THEIR RESUME AND SUBMITTED IT FOR AN APPLICATION

[timber pike]

I should add I got accepted into Amazon and Facebook's internship program if only I didn't fail in the final rounds

[granite flax]

Tinder Applicant
- Recently had 3 out of 4 successful matches with 28% conversion rate from first to second dates
- Did not get relationship but they told me we can be friends

[ocean venture]

Yeah that's so embarrassing haha 😳

[knotty basin]

this is the way

[ocean venture]

brb I've gotta update my resume

[knotty basin]

she outbenches me i can't even mock

[timber pike]

def spoke some truth for sure

[knotty basin]

down atrociously

[worthy spear]

also it never hurts to reach out

i have some contacts at places like okta coursera citadel etc

just from cold emailing

[knotty basin]

i did a powerlifting meet with her and never introduced myself

MISSED CONNECTION

ATROCIOUS

[ocean venture]

My friend told me she has 4k matches on tinder

Or likes

[granite flax]

this is edgelord gamer energy
anyone who has gone to game tournaments know there's always that one dude "only reason i lost is cuz i don't practice enough"

[ocean venture]

Meanwhile i get excited when I see i have 1 new like

[last linden]

tinder is a woman's market

[ocean venture]

Tinder is not it

[knotty basin]

if all i did was swipe that would be fairly easy to do

like

women on tinder have it made

[timber pike]

"the only reason I lost is because I wasn't having the best day and didn't wipe my controller with my lucky gamer fluid before the match"

[worthy spear]

cant relate, don't use tinder

[knotty basin]

"my mouse lagged"

[ocean venture]

Bro I've gotta meet software engineers at power lifting meets not enough of them

[granite flax]

sun was in my eyes
bro we're inside

[knotty basin]

i know so many lol

[ocean venture]

But i also have to get back into powerlifting

[knotty basin]

software engineering is super analytical and powerlifting and strength sports are very quantitative and numbers based so it makes sense

[ocean venture]

Yeah i absolutely love lifting, tracking all my weights gives me joy

[timber pike]

just powerlift some O(2^n) algorithms bro

[ocean venture]

Probably why I like baking and woodworking too tbh

[worthy spear]

"quantitative and numbers based"
"ayo what's your max bench"

[knotty basin]

powerlift my shitty leetcode skills

[timber pike]

no literally

[granite flax]

super smash actually used to have this "excuses" generator
https://web.archive.org/web/20160118200056/http://poyoarya.github.io/john.html

[knotty basin]

this is me

[timber pike]

"What's your LC count" is the same as "What's your bench"

LIke deadass

[knotty basin]

brogrammer move

[ocean venture]

Now i just gotta figure out how to make my dog sleep in her crate so I can actually go

😪

[oblique bolt]

lmfao this is great

[timber pike]

Just applied for Graduation this Fall

[worthy spear]

wait you're a 3rd year?

[ocean venture]

Wish I would have graduated out of covid online graduation is buns

[timber pike]

I only have 2 classes left

So senior

[knotty basin]

you actually got an online graduation?

[worthy spear]

oh idk why I thought you were one of those OP freshman

[timber pike]

LOL

NAH

[ocean venture]

Yeah :-(

[timber pike]

I started all of this last semester bro

[knotty basin]

i got n o t h i n g

[timber pike]

i didn't know what LC was until October

HAHA

[ocean venture]

Nothing? Wtf

[worthy spear]

bruh u fr?

[knotty basin]

2021 grads get an in person graduation

[ocean venture]

That seems extra fucked

[knotty basin]

cal poly be like

sorry 2020 grads nothing for u pls dont show up to 2021 grad ceremony!

thanks for NOTHING

"we're planning an event for you soon!" ok

sounds fake but ok

[ocean venture]

Ours hasn't even happened yet and it's still in person i wish they'd just let vaccinated ppl celebrate or something

Not in person

[knotty basin]

i wish i was cappin

[worthy spear]

damn all those missed "congrats on graduation arkanice 🥳🥳🥳"

[knotty basin]

i wanted to post grad selfies and flex geez

[ocean venture]

Post them anyway fuck itn

[worthy spear]

yo I dont even live in california and im seeing all the UC grad pics on my feed

[ocean venture]

Just go to campus and act like it's a party

[timber pike]

my gf got a powerpoint slide for her graduation last year

🙂

[knotty basin]

gRaDuAtEd SuMmA CuM LaUdE

[last linden]

do it anyways my insta is full of grad pics