just tell them you'll pay next time 
#2021_summer
abstract wagon
flat vine
yo pinky promise i got u next time haha
bitter onyx
well then you have your cash handy to use
i always use card but also have cash on me handy
card hasn't failed me yet
frosty ginkgo
I havent purchased anything irl since march so idrc abt cash or card since im forced to enter the number online no matter what
flat vine
my fear isn't the card not working
it's that i forget to take it with me when i leave the house lol
silent tree
is it possible to push amazon back to fall?
somber saddle
July 26th latest start date
somber saddle
is it possible to push amazon back to fall?
For amazon
silent tree
i have another offer for summer so i think id have to do july 26
thankfully it wouldnt overlap
if it would start july 26
when do u receive oa2 after completing oa1?
somber saddle
Immediatwly
silent tree
bet sauce
somber saddle
2 hours is given but I really only need 45
silent tree
any resources?
somber saddle
Min
Uh here are some general tips
Oa3 write down the 14 LPs
And have them in front of you
Take your time and apply them to oa3
Oa1 is debugging
So really can't help
silent tree
is it hard debugging?
somber saddle
Yeah
nova knoll
Debugging is really just get a couple right and u good it’s least important out of the 3
silent tree
nice congrats
somber saddle
^^^
silent tree
@nova knoll did u get an offer too?
somber saddle
Oa2 theres a list somewhere
silent tree
what years are u guys?
somber saddle
2nd
nova knoll
I’m FT but yeah
nova knoll
Full time new grad
nova knoll
Interned at Lockheed
somber saddle
School is normal state school. Nothing special
silent tree
as a jr?
nova knoll
Yeah Lockheed as Junior I’m at UCF
silent tree
were u shocked to get offer?
ucf is super good
most underrated uni for cs
or am i thinking usf?
silent tree
yea ucf has hella good competitive programming teams
u guys get leetcode easies during actual interview?
somber saddle
Easy + med
silent tree
did u solve both?
somber saddle
Yeah the easy but the med was a long one so I didn't have time. I explained approach well tho
nova knoll
Mine was all medium graph stuff I had 3 hr version but intern only 1 hour
dark junco
Yeah late July probs
low epoch
Yeah aug sounds right
If anyone comes on here and says july i will rage lol
Dont even
dim sentinel
rofl
low epoch
abstract wagon
Also does anyone know if two data analyst internships (and no swe) is even good enough to apply for swe jobs?
dim sentinel
silk ridge
dim sentinel
Also does anyone know if two data analyst internships (and no swe) is even good ...
FT?
abstract wagon
Yeah
dim sentinel
I would say yes as long as you did programming and ur DS & A are solid
abstract wagon
I am hoping to get return offer for data, but I was wondering if I can take a stab at applying to better swe jobs
Ok cool that sounds reasonable
dim sentinel
I am hoping to get return offer for data, but I was wondering if I can take a st...
apply till u get that job tbh
hollow hawk
sure just dm
exotic atlas
sent a friend request
simple saffron
@low epoch i thought we were friends
low epoch
<@!617024065735098426> i thought we were friends
We are but i only add fallen homies to my name 😔
sinful tinsel
Yeah late July probs
R they gonna make the GitHub thing?
simple saffron
damn i didn’t know amex paid their interns that well
sterile holly
Anyone do Facebook final? How long did it take to hear back?
tulip jay
Hey has anyone interviewed for data science internships before? What sort of questions do they ask lmao, idek what to expect and got one in less than an hour 😂
waxen kelp
has anyone interviewed with atlassian before? how hard is their technical portion? thanks!
restive falcon
Interviewed two years ago it wasn’t bad
Mediums
I withdrew from final because I decided to take another offer sry I don’t have any insights there
Good luck tho!
waxen kelp
hmm don't recall it saying IT or anything, just normal swe intern
waxen kelp
Interviewed two years ago it wasn’t bad
ooh thanks !
silk ridge
yeah backend closed for sure unless ppl reneged
waxen kelp
Software Engineer Intern, 2021 Summer U.S. role is what it says BUT I did also think it was already closed
restive falcon
That’s fine they prob have some extra headcount
Not too much headcount that would require them to reopen apps
sinful tinsel
1 business day
How was it in terms of lc difficulty? Was there any dp probs at all?
abstract wagon
I withdrew from final because I decided to take another offer sry I don’t have a...
restive falcon
Wow boo is back
The masses will be pleased
bridgewater 100000000%
hmm
maybe coinbase???
i heard scale is also kind of cultish
fierce shuttle
how do i renege an offer that i already signed
ionic bronze
see renege template
fierce shuttle
can i get sued?
silk ridge
renege 
fierce shuttle
lmao kinda feel bad cux i signed + gave payment info to them but gotta do wat u gotta do
restive falcon
lmao kinda feel bad cux i signed + gave payment info to them but gotta do wat u ...
its nothing personsel
its just business
they would drop u in a second
if it was the right business decision for them
consider how many interns got rescinded last summer
sterile holly
see renege template
Where do I find this? I’m about to renegade lmao
restive falcon
Where do I find this? I’m about to renegade lmao
see pinned msgs
oops
its pinned in the other channel
but this one
sterile holly
https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/705054721647443999/7830740769181...
Wow that is beautiful dude
ionic bronze
sorry idk where the template is :(
abstract wagon
[IMPORTANT] please read
fierce shuttle
lmaooo
abstract wagon
Regarding my application to _
ionic bronze
wow tbh I would have just put "JPMC - Renege SWE Intern"
replace jpmc with xx company
abstract wagon
I'm reneging. And here's why
but seriously just say something like "concerning my offer for swe intern"
formal finch
yo Apple hiring manager reached out to me!!!
I’m praying that I’m not getting ghosted 🙏🙏🙏
restive falcon
yo Apple hiring manager reached out to me!!!
pogg
abstract wagon
yo Apple hiring manager reached out to me!!!
pog
how did you get the email? please share it
dim sentinel
yo Apple hiring manager reached out to me!!!
bruh
formal finch
i just cold dm on linkedln
tulip jay
yo Apple hiring manager reached out to me!!!
what team?
if yo udont mind me asking
you dont*
formal finch
I don’t know which team exactly but it’s looks like something to do with infrastructure
round sparrow
@formal finch do you have a cold dm template?
also are you using linkedin premium to dm?
formal finch
I didn’t use linkedln template
sort of but I kinda made it to tailor to me and my experience
round sparrow
hmm any tips on what to say in a cold dm?
formal finch
just make really concise and straight to the point
don’t put fucking bs into your emails and messages
u also need to make it where you are perfect candidate by relating your experiences to their job postings
round sparrow
Ttyty how did you find a hiring manager? I seem to only ever see recruiters
restive falcon
its literally just eng managers generally
low epoch
All cold email tips:
- Actually be qualified for job
2 demonstrate it in email - Destroy hiring manager with facts and logic
Wish i could make it past step 1
Yes lol
cyan valley
All cold email tips:
1. Actually be qualified for job
2 demonstrate it in email
...
lol
Ive had 5 people get back 2 me with cold email
it works lowkey underrated
faint musk
wow hs kids are really getting the amazon oa
formal finch
Ttyty how did you find a hiring manager? I seem to only ever see recruiters
LinkedIn search Apple engineering managers
abstract wagon
wtf is this <:KEKW:747188103260799060> https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comment...
The number of PIP next years will be incredible
sinful tinsel
LinkedIn search Apple engineering managers
Did u connect with them first?
abstract wagon
Hire fast fire fast
Amazon interview is 1.5 year long
I hope they give return offers
ionic bronze
imagine if they did pip interns
can't get ur dev env setup in the first day? insta fire
ionic bronze
i wonder what the return rate is tho
abstract wagon
Never work
ionic bronze
return offer rate
abstract wagon
50% ?
abstract wagon
I read that one office had like 30% but don't know if it's true
50% is not that high btw
restive falcon
generally theres a midpoint feedback review
ionic bronze
it's not high but they give intern offers to pretty much everyone
at least it feels like it lol
i didn't get mine tho 
lilac cloak
humble saddle
How was it in terms of lc difficulty? Was there any dp probs at all?
Fb said they’re no longer doing DP questions, but I got one lol
twilit mesa
^ i got one too
weak oracle
why would they just remove a potential section of questions lol
formal finch
Did u connect with them first?
Yeah
faint musk
whenever a company says they're changing something always assume they are lying
terse moat
Has anyone here received a rejection email from Walmart ? Jw if they leave u hanging after final interview or inform u
shrewd karma
why would they just remove a potential section of questions lol
Cus the Zuck said so 
weak oracle
Hopefully that's different for ML Roles, maybe they just give 2 mediums 🤔
loud hollow
its not always hard + med i know people who got easy + med or med + med
just another rng game 
slim creek
life be rng game
twilit mesa
my rng is so bad
soft hound
prob sucks just like tesla
weak oracle
Problem is that they won't give interns RSUs
obtuse otter
does anyone give interns rsu?
weak oracle
(also spacex is private)
obtuse otter
prob sucks just like tesla
how about new grad
soft hound
no idea
weak oracle
New Grad tsla probably good pay, but Stocks probably can't 10x again
so it's less potential growth
obtuse otter
i assume spacex has some sort of stock liquidation or smthng right? or am i bugging
damn nvm the pay sucks
weak oracle
spacex is private
obtuse otter
spacex is private
i was just wondering because although a company is private, there are ways to liquidate your stake in it
whether it's selling it to investors during funding rounds or smtnhg
obtuse otter
its basically tesla
icic
How 2 get spacex internship?
I feel like that shit would do wonders for ur resume
weak oracle
Get a Facebook or Google Internship first then come back lol
abstract wagon
How 2 get spacex internship?
idk im waiting to hear back after final
assuming it was like last week i should hear back sometime this afternoon
ruby gull
has anyone here had a 2nd round interview with an eng manager at apple? i have a 30 minute interview coming up and i didnt get sent a coderpad link so im not sure what to expect
obtuse otter
Get a Facebook or Google Internship first then come back lol
i did -_-
obtuse otter
idk im not doing it tho, im doing another company. just worried cause i'll be underclassmen + non target
weak oracle
oh
well I'm sure next year if you choose to apply then you'll at least get looked at
obtuse otter
looking at spacex on linkedin and i feel like legit everyone there is target 
weak oracle
wdym target
weak oracle
what's a target?
weak oracle
ah
SpaceX doesn't really care about education it's not Elon's vibe
Past experience def more important
obtuse otter
nah they do u cant actually get in without a bachelors degree
weak oracle
f
obtuse otter
well thats for full time
hmm maybe they care more about the actual degree than where u got it from idk
weak oracle
Probs
It's typically poor policy to blanket reject people from certain schools, you'll miss good candidates
or at the very least, companies that do that usually have referral workarounds
low epoch
The ideas that x company “doesn’t care about where u got ur education” and “blanket rejecting by school” are a false dichotomy. Many top companies especially quants will lean towards such a heavy heavy preference for target schools but of course it’s not on the level of blanket rejects
If I hire 5% non-targets i am not blanket rejecting
You’re better off not worrying about what school u went to but let’s not kid ourselves that top companies, especially elon’s, are paragons of equity
weak oracle
Yeah I'm not saying that a community college student and an MIT student are gonna be weighed the same if the rest of their creds are similar
But I also think if you had a Google or Facebook internship they'll likely give you at least a look
even if you aren't from a top school
holistic admissions
low epoch
That’s a fair assumption. In theory i think it’s perfectly fine to let former tech interns pass resume screen all the time
cobalt roost
Pretty sure a google/facebook internship looks more impressive for a normal student then one that went to MIT
weak oracle
Pretty sure a google/facebook internship looks more impressive for a normal stud...
Well if they landed the G/F Internship and aren't at a top school they probably did something impressive between when they were admitted to university and when they applied
cobalt roost
Touche
obtuse otter
yah
soft hound
kk
weak oracle
Google handed me a fat L for STEP but quite possibly because I accidentally applied to the Switzerland one
And once I realized i had already missed deadline for NA
🤡
Hopefully I can at least get to the interview round next year lol
abstract wagon
failed interview both years lol
lethal ore
Here I am hoping that at least Google gives me oa
Does google give oa to most juniors or Nah?
abstract wagon
failed security interview too lol
weak oracle
I would assume it would probably depend on your past internships
abstract wagon
if you want google to interview you get referrals
twilit mesa
Does google give oa to most juniors or Nah?
i dont think so
weak oracle
if you want google to interview you get referrals
This tbh
lethal ore
I had one this year and it did not help me
abstract wagon
get 3
weak oracle
3??????
abstract wagon
yes
abstract wagon
i go to target school so every grad goes to google and i can just ask them
weak oracle
Ohhh you mean like that hmmm
lethal ore
Welp I am at state school lol
weak oracle
I have one friend at google I was hoping that’d be enough
:/
Hopefully I meet a couple people at Amazon who move to G while I’m there
I assume there’s a lot of company mixing
lethal ore
Your interning at Amazon?
lethal ore
Oh yea lol
formal finch
get 3
does more referral means higher chance?
I thought it was pointless to ask for more referral to the same company
dry imp
U can attach multiple referrals?
weak oracle
does more referral means higher chance?
Referrals probs don’t matter much if it all once you reach interview stage
abstract wagon
Referrals probs don’t matter much if it all once you reach interview stage
this
formal finch
yeah I know that but I’m trying to get the interview
lethal ore
Yeah then it just your interview skills
abstract wagon
make friends with seniors
abstract wagon
i get ghosted on linkedin
weak oracle
I have a friend who’s a google Step Intern but the SWEs she talked to said they aren’t comfortable referring people they haven’t worked with
Cause they have to explain how they know you
flat vine
does google still ask how many lines of code youve written in java lol
weak oracle
Java lol
ionic bronze
yes
weak oracle
Pain
abstract wagon
does google still ask how many lines of code youve written in java lol
lol no
ionic bronze
it's like 1-100, 100-1000, 1000-10000
weak oracle
Okay well I mean Imagine having written less than 1000s lines of java
abstract wagon
oh yeah for swe
weak oracle
That’s like
You never taken a class
If you took a class you’re definitely like 20,000 lines or some nonsense easily
abstract wagon
fuck java
dry imp
@abstract wagon When I got a referall to Google it was like an invitation link. So ur telling me we can get multiple referrals?
flat vine
you test your code? lol
ionic bronze
oh i loved my class for that
unit testing is nice
abstract wagon
<@456226577798135808> When I got a referall to Google it was like an invitation ...
yeah
puts you at front of queue for interviewing
dry imp
Does the quality of referall matter too like if it's a swe vs swe manager?
abstract wagon
no
once you get to interview stage referrals wont help
but only in getting interview does referral help
dry imp
Ah ye
weak oracle
Google Interview round for interns is like 6 rounds right?
Like super brutal
Or am I wrong about that
abstract wagon
Google Interview round for interns is like 6 rounds right?
idk i did security which is 2 rounds
and STEP is 1 round
jolly flint
if you get 7 referrals, you get to bypass any interview and get an automatic offer
abstract wagon
Oh okay so I’m just dumb then
i think 6 is for swe new grad
dry imp
Should I get multiple referrals for Amazon?
weak oracle
Ah okay well I don’t have to worry about that for a while lol
@dry imp single one is fine
I got one referral and got OAs day after it processed
dry imp
Can u bypass OA if u use another offer as leverage?
abstract wagon
no
weak oracle
Well I kinda did meh on OAs and still got to interview rounds and offer so I’d say if you have the referral don’t worry too much about OAs just don’t completely bomb
Like on OA2 just get at least one right
abstract wagon
Should I get multiple referrals for Amazon?
idk i think it only helps for google
apple referral went nowhere
microsoft and facebook count multiple referrals as just 1
weak oracle
Yeah my apple referral didn’t do shit
But I’ve also heard Apple just like doesn’t really start their process till march so Idek
abstract wagon
But I’ve also heard Apple just like doesn’t really start their process till marc...
really? like they dont even look at resumes yet
for summer?
weak oracle
allegedly
I read that somewhere
And I haven’t seena ton of people posting that they got apple positions
But might be anecdotal
merry dirge
What's the # of hrs per month that's used to calculate monthly take-home?
hasty pulsar
wdym
ionic bronze
4.33333/week
hasty pulsar
take home?
formal finch
bruh how tf I’m qualified for hardware sensing @ Apple
tame ridge
But I’ve also heard Apple just like doesn’t really start their process till marc...
I applied directly and they interviewed me, this was with no referral and non-target university
formal finch
I don’t even know how to do this
weak oracle
Welp rip apple ig
hasty pulsar
what is the take home?
formal finch
idk man
dim sentinel
bruh how tf I’m qualified for hardware sensing @ Apple
oof hardware for swe student
ionic bronze
what is the take home?
Take home refers to pay after taxes have been excluded
so like, I get paid 3k pretax biweekly in my internship
but b/c taxes like fucking me in the ass, I actually get 2.2k/biweekly
hasty pulsar
OH
i thought it was a take-home assignment
that u get paid after u get hired or mth
smth
formal finch
I mean it looks like more of SWE role in the job posting
It looks like building internal tools
Also anyone interviewed with Apple
dim sentinel
Also anyone interviewed with Apple
@ruby gull
sinful tinsel
Fb said they’re no longer doing DP questions, but I got one lol
ah, u got med+hard q for ur interview?
formal finch
Yeah sometimes
eager valve
hypothetically
is reneging a freshman program the same as reneging a full internship?
like door closed forever
ember stream
depends where
dry imp
Take home refers to pay after taxes have been excluded
Thought we don't have to pay if we make less than 10.4k
Then after it's like a small amt rt? Or am I forgetting smthin
ember stream
it depends on what state ur in
dry imp
The state the internship is in or where my residence is
ember stream
where ur residence
dry imp
My internship is lcol ima in hcol
dry imp
Ah ic rip
ember stream
then if ur state has income tax, u would pay that too
dry imp
Ah gotcha
ember stream
Effective federal tax rate would probably be a little over 10%
dry imp
Do we have to pay social and Medicare?
ember stream
ya depending on ur state
dry imp
Ah ic thx
flat vine
who benefits from social security and medicare taxes anyways
earnest field
boomers
flat vine
ppl age 65+ lol assuming i'll live that long
ember stream
Lol social security wont be around by then
dry imp
Just become Amish
ionic bronze
#dead-before-40-gang amirite
pliant hawk
I’m aiming for 69
flat vine
#dead-before-40-gang amirite
FACTSSSSSS
ionic bronze
man if i don't OD before 40 then wtf am i doing
faint musk
concerned stare
humble saddle
ah, u got med+hard q for ur interview?
Yeah for both interviews
sinful tinsel
@humble saddle U had them back to back or separate?
humble saddle
separate
humble saddle
<@480832893497901076> U had them back to back or separate?
they have two rounds
tardy minnow
ok I’m back lol. does amazon let you extend deadline? I’m supposed to get my official apple offer next week but my Amazon deadline is Monday. Already told my apple recruiter I need it ASAP but they said there is a bunch of processing necessary to make an offer letter (already got verbal offer)
obsidian juniper
ok I’m back lol. does amazon let you extend deadline? I’m supposed to get my off...
You want to take Apple but don’t want to potentially risk letting amazon expire?
tardy minnow
Yeah
tardy minnow
I already got verbal offer but I’m super paranoid lol
tardy minnow
No
obsidian juniper
Ok then your chances are probably even better
There was visa issues last summer with them Bc covid
tardy minnow
I think it takes them awhile to process citizenship stuff before giving the official letter
obsidian juniper
Yeah
Its def a little risky to wait
And let amazon expire
Maybe just explain your situation to ur recruiter
tardy minnow
Already did and they are doing their best to rush it along but I got an email today asking if I would be flexible to receive the letter next week
:/
obsidian juniper
:/
tardy minnow
Just reiterated my offer deadline to them and got no response so hopefully I wake up to a letter/update tmrw
obsidian juniper
Yeah hopefully
I don’t know if I’d bet on it though
I tried a similar thing with them before
And there was no budging on their end
marsh burrow
Just accept amazon and renege if needed
They literally have a gazillion people interning there and Im sure they wouldnt care if people renege. Theyll just replace you with those on the waitlist
obsidian juniper
I wouldn’t do this but I just don’t like the possibility of soiling a connection
tardy minnow
Yeah i dont want to get blacklisted from amazon over something that has a 0.0001% chance of happening
marsh burrow
Just apply with a different email phone number, address, and change up your resume if you want to intern there again
They dont have time to identify individual applicants. They just go by email
jolly flint
Just apply with a different email phone number, address, and change up your resu...
they can tell and merge your accounts
marsh burrow
Not if you change up your info
narrow patrol
omfg bro...
this argo ai oa is brutal af
@silk ridge @abstract wagon this shit wtf
ancient flower
this argo ai oa is brutal af
What happened?
narrow patrol
What happened?
lc hard graph problem 
for argo oa
im considering to just exit the OA
ancient flower
shrewd karma
how bad is it
muted leaf
are you taking it right now??
narrow patrol
ye
muted leaf
good luck bro
narrow patrol
thanks but i pretty much gave up
muted leaf
rip
narrow patrol
i cant do this lol
its way above my level
i can do some mediums and this isnt a medium at all
this is hard hard imo
shrewd karma
like what concept of graphs is it testing
BFS/DFS isn't hard once you see it a couple times
but something like Kruskals/Prims for MSTs are not it
narrow patrol
hmm i think this one involves dijsktra
silk ridge
lmao @narrow patrol i promise you the c++ one was so easy
narrow patrol
lmao <@!686672695873765409> i promise you the c++ one was so easy
dm hahah
also maybe if i try i still get
vast void
lc hard graph problem
@narrow patrol i got that one too 😂😂 python right
slim creek
is it on lc
narrow patrol
> lc hard graph problem <:sadge:747169038911930418>
<@!686672695873765409> i go...
yup did you solve it?
narrow patrol
is it on lc
nah its harder than most graph problems on lc imo
weak oracle
what problem is it?
Just a description of it
I'm not actually gonna solve it just interested
ionic fog
tfw you're so done with lc that you skip over a topo sort question
tfw you do an onsite and they ask you that topo sort question
weak oracle
😭
slim creek
topsort is stinky
sonic badger
tfw you do an onsite and they ask you that topo sort question
lol i got a toposort on my amazon final
wtf no way
its higher in montreal
lmao
terse torrent
Is that including unpaids?
sonic badger
ye its not too hard if u see it
terse torrent
Bruh
craggy shuttle
indegree and graph and then we make the sorted Order but yeah sometimes getting the hint that it;s a topsort ques, is trciky
ionic fog
why can't we just do fizzbuzz and get the job
ionic bronze
for every quant there are 10000 unpaid internships in nyc
maybe
idk
but quant intern salaries just recently started hitting 60+ i think (i remember Jane street being like 80 last year) so could be old data
slim creek
these salaries be nutty
inland bloom
ionic bronze
feels poor
fr tho it's insane how ~8k+ is a fuck ton of money
And quant is literally doubling that
abstract wagon
🕯️🕯️
🕯️🕯️
umbral breach
anyone want to give me their thoughts on what more I should be doing to find a summer internship?
im a CE major that wants to transition to software but all my experience has been embedded / systems internships so i feel kind of behind in terms of qualifications when it comes to looking for a backend/swe role
but it seems a bit mindless/pointless at this point as i've never had a tech/programming interview
abstract wagon
just apply
companies are looking for leetcode engineers
doesn't matter if your past exp is CE
low epoch
Yeah CE is like the most cs friendly major
We’re practically cousins
Siblings
Step siblings
abstract wagon
only thing is it's a bit late into recruiting season so it could be tough
low epoch
There’s a lot of c and cpp chads in here, pretty much the lowest level without going full prolog/assembly/binary
It is a bit late but i would say if by april 1 no offer then yeah it could be rough
umbral breach
i've done one bytedance assessment for tik tok so far and seems like I'm just behind the curve versus most cs peers
abstract wagon
bytedance/tiktok is relatively more difficult than most companies
have you taken a data structures and algorithms class?
umbral breach
was definitely not prepared to handle a DP question
umbral breach
no I just picked up a cs minor so I could fill the gap between cs and ce somewhat
abstract wagon
oh that's tough
thorny gorge
You’re never under the curve 😼
abstract wagon
you definitely need to know your data structures as a bare minimum
low epoch
I still cry about it
thorny gorge
lol u can know the DS but being able to apply em is diff
honestly the more leet you do the better you get
Practice bruv
abstract wagon
just apply anyways
umbral breach
I posted my resume in the chat if any of you guys care to take a look
abstract wagon
@umbral breach i srsly think you have a good resume
good gpa, big companies and coding exp
thorny gorge
Don’t let these OA’s get to u
low epoch
I posted my resume in the chat if any of you guys care to take a look
Very solid. Do u have template?
I am not big fan of objective statement in general
Maybe bold keywords and technologies in bullets
umbral breach
Do you think just grinding out lc is enough? Or should I read through most of ctci book in addition?
low epoch
Ur at the point where lc is bottleneck so
umbral breach
@low epoch used template from canva
low epoch
Lc probably. This discord opinion is pretty split on ctci being necessary
Ok nice i’ll look for it. I use latex variation of jakes resume
John resume, if u will
thick shore
definitely not necessary
it’s just a question of opportunity cost that makes it suboptimal
i don’t agree that you should look at things in absolute value
because u don’t have unlimited time
like people literally copy and paste questions directly from leetcode onto a coderpad doc
why beat around the bush?
umbral breach
Yeah because I do have a copy of the book, just wondering what the general opinion on if it was worth to be reading it vs another lc question
pliant hawk
I have the book but I never read it lol. I’ve found leetcode grinding to be more helpful.
thick shore
lmao yea i have it too
flat vine
i pirated the ebook and never use it
thick shore
i might donate it or something i don’t need it
pliant hawk
Bout to use it as campfire this summer
pliant hawk
Jkjk ima give it to someone that wants it lmao
thick shore
yea i need to too
pliant hawk
My dumbass had the pdf and went I want a paper copy, shits been in my closet for 6 months
thick shore
for some reason selling books to me feels weird
i understand the idea of selling stuff u don’t use but idk
if someone wants it i don’t want to gatekeep it over like $20
i just think worst case scenario where someone could really benefit from it and doesn’t have financial ability for it
books are different from the rest in my mind because it’s #knowledge
pliant hawk
Yea I wanna get rid of. So it can be used and I can stop feeling guilty
ionic bronze
🚀
low epoch
if ur a cs major and u aint pirating idk what to say fam
abstract wagon
if ur a cs major and you're not selling your ctci for $20 so you can buy more doge idk what to say guys
ionic bronze
so many meme stocks this year
low epoch
if ur ex fb ex google swe ex husband and not selling a course idk what to say
fervent remnant
I noticed for Capital One - pay for locations like San Francisco and NYC were much higher than locations like Richmond. I understand for in-person, living cost in California is much higher. But aren't they virtual this year, so doesn't that just mean extra pay?
pliant hawk
Sounds like it
low epoch
only thing that would justify then is if you get charged that state's taxes on the income earned
but idk how taxes will work for remote work
since cali/nyc taxes are apparently high af
abstract wagon
hey yall so rn im sorting the leetcode questions for amazon for most frequent and it seems
that they ask alot of lc hard
/lc med?
should i go down that list
or is there another resource
they told me last min today my interview is this upcoming monday
ionic bronze
I might study LC by just remembering all the optimal answers lol
And then resolve it later to see if I understand it
What would y'all do?
stone tiger
That list includes full time interviews too
abstract wagon
@stone tiger what would you recomend studying bc they scheduled my interview for monday
and got the notification today
havent leetcoded in 2 months tbh
stone tiger
Just try googling something like Amazon sde intern interview questions or something like that. I remember seeing a site
stone tiger
I remember there was a site that had common questions from this years interviews but I cant find it
abstract wagon
hmm
stone tiger
I think its just better to touch base on all concepts because the final is usually super random. People have gotten OOD while others have gotten like hards
weak oracle
I got a heap question on my final
lol
(find the K closest values in an unsorted list)
weak oracle
Max heap but you're on the right track
abstract wagon
@stone tiger fs thanks
i might just yolo
and just go through concepts
it genuinely seems
that they ask alot about heaps/trees
from what it seems to me
weak oracle
yeah I suppose
craggy shuttle
amazon gave u final so quick ? Nice man luckkyyy
abstract wagon
nah
i scheduled with open dates
like 2 weeks ago
and then they informed me today
that i have one coming up on monday
wish i had more time
to study tbh
but probably my fault that i wasnt studying from the start
craggy shuttle
DW man, tbh its luck based as well. Who knows u might get easy and less time will help u prep more, if u know ds and algos already
dw
abstract wagon
yewe
i bought grokking
so imma just go through that tbh
are there like unordinary custom questions amazon
likes to ask?/
craggy shuttle
grokking covers all the patterns
weak oracle
Be prepared for basic system design
craggy shuttle
get strong with "graph traversal" for sure. i dont think they will ask sys design
weak oracle
I got asked to construct a Map Reduce Solution to my answer after getting the optimal time complexity
craggy shuttle
and with time and space complexities
fervent remnant
a what
craggy shuttle
Map Reduce ?what's that ?
fervent remnant
Never heard of it
weak oracle
It's a way of distributing a big data problem across many computers
abstract wagon
bruh wtf
craggy shuttle
ohhh
stone tiger
isnt it like merge sort?
weak oracle
So like if you had too many datapoints to fit in memory
fervent remnant
man I hate this
flat vine
🐘
abstract wagon
thats troll
fervent remnant
5000 possible topics
craggy shuttle
but do amazon ask this ?
weak oracle
Yeah well i didn't have to get into spark or anything
fervent remnant
no way to predict
weak oracle
that was in my amazon interview lol
abstract wagon
tbh
craggy shuttle
i mean isnt it just ds and algos
abstract wagon
i mean at least there's a bank to study
bc when i was interviewing @ nvidia i had nothing to study off of
craggy shuttle
bro just do ds and algos and hope for the best
weak oracle
I think it might have just been a bonus question tbf
abstract wagon
and my 1 month of studying wasnt even related to my tech
weak oracle
bruh you're really gonna get hungover for your LC interview? How did that work out for Beth Harmon?
abstract wagon
ur trolling
ionic bronze
lmfaoo
abstract wagon
boi u drinking the night before an interview for a company that pays 10k/month
ionic bronze
ikr
abstract wagon
fml
weak oracle
hadoop and all ?
yeee
abstract wagon
@ionic bronze its kinda troll tho
bc im working rn
and they gave me monday off
bc monday is a holiday
so ig amazon dont celebrate
holidays or smth
ionic bronze
I wish I had monday off lmao
weak oracle
Imagine getting behavioral questions
abstract wagon
would you recommend just coming up with scenarios for every LP
o
22 questions?
why do i feel like
if you pass LP really hard
it doesnt rlly matter how well you do on tech
or too much
weak oracle
literally not a single Behavioral Question in either of my interviews
They must not care how I behave
abstract wagon
thats troll
abstract wagon
rn im banking on using behavorials to extend my interview
weak oracle
I guess that counts
weak oracle
but nothing from like the list
abstract wagon
did u get offer
weak oracle
yes
craggy shuttle
i hope i get final then will prolly take some tips from u guys lol
ruby gull
has anyone here had a 2nd round interview with apple? plz talk to me im scared T_T
craggy shuttle
@ruby gull how to get apple interview ?
no help with a ref as well
applied in aug
abstract wagon
should check glassdoor
ruby gull
put naked pic on resume
craggy shuttle
idk. some are doing netflix interviews lol
ruby gull
i cant really tell you dawg i just sent in my resume in the site and thats it
weak oracle
Netflix literally just started internships this year right
ruby gull
to the moooon
craggy shuttle
hmm great! good luck!
ruby gull
thank you
stone tiger
Netflix literally just started internships this year right
This is their first structured internship. In the past they have had interns informally
lilac cloak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDKuX3BnBTk
i did not get a single question from this list
i did get some LP questions, but none were from that list
umbral breach
what is lp for the uninformed
lilac cloak
abbreviation for 'leadership principles'
"lp" is amazon-specific though
although chewy has "operating principles" that are basically copy/paste/edit
tardy minnow
has anyone here had a 2nd round interview with apple? plz talk to me im scared T...
is it a hiring manager interview?
tardy minnow
you had it already?
ruby gull
yea i just did it
tardy minnow
damn that was quick
ruby gull
like an hour ago*
abstract wagon
phineas pregant?
ruby gull
hell yea \
abstract wagon
i dont remember that episode
abstract wagon
any suggestion is welcomed!
autumn geode
oh, thanks for pointing that out
craggy shuttle
Any tips how to prepare for final coinbase ?
"backend"
twilit mesa
go over lc system design questions
odd karma
Hey everyone! 👋 I’m fairly new to the server. Are there any people attending NCR’s virtual internship this summer? I’d like to connect with a few people!
timber solar
Battle net
faint musk
has anyone done netflix phone for cloud infrastructure?
@craggy shuttle i think i saw someone say 5d
craggy shuttle
whattt ?
i thought if i pass i ll get it within 12 hours ?
isn’t it ?
@faint musk
ionic bronze
fucking goated
dry imp
wait r u doing snap in the fall?
and if u get amazon then replace it with jpm otherwise jpm in summer?
weak oracle
Even if you split OA2 you're fine so getting both should move you on pretty def unless your style is absolute trash
craggy shuttle
i still didn’t recd my oa2.
its been 40 mins
i had done oa1
usually everyone gets within first 30 mins ?
isn’t it ?
@weak oracle
sinful tinsel
lmao <@!686672695873765409> i promise you the c++ one was so easy
Wut c++ one?
ionic bronze
and if u get amazon then replace it with jpm otherwise jpm in summer?
yees
dry imp
pog wait so u can graduate in 3 yrs?
ionic bronze
mhmm
dry imp
niceeee
dry imp
ye but w/ full time co op
ionic bronze
I graduate fall 2021
mhmm
ft co-op for the entire year
and I'm only taking five classes total
weak oracle
@craggy shuttle Between Oa1 and OA2 took a few hours for me ngl
so don't worry
literally even if you got 0/7 OA1 I think they still send OA2
craggy shuttle
I just recd the OA 2
lets see if i pass this
so its 70 mins 2 coding and a survey asking some LP ? in OA 2
weak oracle
Yeah
Don't overthink it like I did
I thought I had a backtracking problem it was literally a greedy answer
And if you can't get both make sure you at least pass all tests for one so you have a chance of moving on
craggy shuttle
hmm so 1/2 will help to move forward ?
If i am able to do 1 full cases and for 2nd some cases ?
weak oracle
I had 1 full cases and 1 no cases and moved on
so I mean
as long as you get one you have a chance so don't feel too shitty if you only get one
craggy shuttle
so oa 2 is just 2 coding questions
weak oracle
yes
craggy shuttle
okay thanks
lilac cloak
<@!565874390366027777> Between Oa1 and OA2 took a few hours for me ngl
wait what
thats kinda cap mike
unless this isnt amason
o wait nvm u did team specific thing might be a bit diff
the generic process is
20 mins for OA 1
like 50 or 70 mins for OA 2
i think 1 hr for OA 3? or was it 3 hrs
weak oracle
? No I mean the gap between getting them
lilac cloak
i finished it p quicklt
weak oracle
Lol
weak oracle
I had the standard OAs
lilac cloak
actually nvm that sounds abt right
thought u meant cumulative time spent on them
mb
lilac cloak
indeed
slim creek
anyone get a phone interview with boring company
craggy shuttle
wait so i am confused @weak oracle
do i need to study LP for OA 2 ?
or LP is just OA 3 ?
weak oracle
Def
like they'll ask you shit like "should we prioritize the deadline or the customer"
Pretty sure choosing to kidnap Bezos to save a customer from having a bad experience would be a good choice ngl
stiff vessel
weak oracle
@arctic basalt yep I'm a sophmore doing real shit
Well I'll be doing real shit in the summer anyways
dark junco
They even take freshmen
weak oracle
Do they? I heard it was sophmore and up for amazon
dark junco
It's def rare but I think there are some freshmen who get it
weak oracle
I think it's at least starting remote, I don't have my startdate yet since they're figuring out if they can convert it to a coop role or not
Idk yet I won't get my official offer letter until my startdate is set but I assume standard seattle pay so 8200/mo + Stipend
timber solar
Anyone know what happened to the university recuriiters list
Not able to open it anymore
mystic hamlet
For those that blindly email recruiters, is there at least a higher chance of receiving an OA?
frosty ginkgo
Not able to open it anymore
this might help : https://cachedview.com/
lone rain
!problems amazon
small fossilBOT
!problems can only be used in #leetcode-bot
sinful tinsel
They even take freshmen
Who?
dark junco
Amazon
sinful tinsel
Can companies give virtual onsites for tech interview?
ornate pendant
Does the !problems amazon actually work
pliant hawk
in #699532227536486451 ye
ornate pendant
Like were the questions actually asked for the sde intern position
frosty ginkgo
Like were the questions actually asked for the sde intern position
no they were asked for the ceo position that opened when bezos left
abstract wagon
is it true that apple starts reading resumes in jan or feb ? or latrr than most?
dim sentinel
is it true that apple starts reading resumes in jan or feb ? or latrr than most?
Yes some ppl even get interviews like March
sinful tinsel
all companies do lmao
I thot cuz of COVID they switched to only phone lmao
thorn leaf
anyone know if its possible to interview for the mlh fellowship for the summer, and to be able to push it for the fall or winter?
abstract wagon
Yes some ppl even get interviews like March
if anyone has any apple or microsoft recruiter info please pm me
im spamming all recruiters and tim apple
dim sentinel
https://giphy.com/gifs/endgame-hawkeye-dont-give-me-hope-dyLlCJSNbgFghf7wjT
I’m sorry I’m just going off what I saw on Glassdoor
I too want to believe in apple contacting me
dim sentinel
if anyone has any apple or microsoft recruiter info please pm me
im spamming all...
Same plz bless
restive falcon
https://giphy.com/gifs/endgame-hawkeye-dont-give-me-hope-dyLlCJSNbgFghf7wjT
have you not accepted an offer for summer yet
i thought u had some p good places
abstract wagon
i thought u had some p good places
looking for better places #neversettle
esp in security
i realized i dont want to do swe
abstract wagon
Aren't you like second year
Chill you are set for success
yo you can just use googlefoo to find emails
why didnt i think of that lol
thorn leaf
if anyone has any apple or microsoft recruiter info please pm me
im spamming all...
Pls dm me too :)
ionic bronze
I thot cuz of COVID they switched to only phone lmao
Wym, virtual onsites are phone interviews
narrow patrol
i thought AFE was a way to get freshman into the SDE program?
like i didnt know there was any difference between AFE and SDE, they do the same work
just propel and leap and what not is a little different
abstract wagon
maybe they are just very poggers
weak oracle
The reason there are so many sophs at Amazon is Amazon literally one of the only places who lets Sophs be real SDEs
weak oracle
most other big companies either blanket reject sophs (palantir) or have stuff like Twitter University or Google Step
which aren't normal SDE roles
so Amazon is pretty appealing for sophs to apply to
craggy shuttle
less international students this fall 2020. Whereas those who came in spring 2021 can’t go for intern in summer. That’s the reason i think amazon is finally giving chance to most of them till now and haven’t been waitlisted yet @weak oracle
flat vine
amazon just needs slave labor