quants-n-traders

[low vault]

javac Main.java

[cedar sparrow]

the voices tell me to push to main

the voice tell me to cluely through faang process

the voices tell me to unoptimize my code

makes sense non target kid

idk what else i expected from u

this is too much cs stuff i dont know it

remember im a math major

wtf who studies engineering thats actually for bums

makes sense

[low citrus]

💀💀

😭😭

cloud watch yells at me very loudly if i have PII in the logs 🫠🫠🫠

LMAOOO based

spacebar?

i though u left the server

💀

darn 😔😔

how r u doing today

awesome sauce

darn

is that a restaurant

also i went to rocket classic playoffs today 🥳🥳

[low citrus]

real

[tropic patrol]

Went to beach in brooklyn today

in a discord???

???????

[paper mauve]

nice pfp

Damn u too

Respect

[novel hollow]

tech me to get rich

[silk escarp]

your bio is wild lmfao

literally me

[analog cipher]

think of cs if u were lobotomized

[fresh swallow]

They have chauffers paid by the company

Shit sway

[low vault]

holy shit thats crazy

yall for resume is there any reason to put coursework/scholarships

im thinking of just nuking most of it for more space for experience

[low vault]

still wild to my north american brain

:p

ngl

id prob just get a cleaner to come ever 2 wks or smth if i have the momoney and busy

need to be good enough o get ro

hmm

mentor is happy

but ive never gotten ro before in my previous internships and ive always had generally good feedback

prob

but i always feel like theres smth im missing

last summer it was higher ups afaik

and mentor submits feedback for them to rewview + final presentation + etc.

not rly sure what else is there

so i never got any real feedback from them

and now im like

so i can get really positive feedback and i'm still fucked

ooo that's rly nice

i think my mentor is pretty nice

i dont rly see the point in lying about perf

hmm

implementing new feeds and whatnot

so moreso oop and thinking through logic and whatnot

not rly perfy stuff which i wanted to do

but it do be like that sometimes

yeah i'm on a big oop moment

oop c++ is kinda cool

but also makes me wanna kms

cos it's so over complicated

😭

lowkey i think some of the lower pnl firms have a lot more interesting code LOL

like i heard akuna has some crazy shit going on

lowkey makes me kinda jelly

yeah

just a lot of very fancy C++

yeah

honestly i slowly realized that ppl often just kinda look at comapany name + general work descriptors as signal on resume

so like it's probably fine if u broke into a quant firm alr 🙃

sometimes i wonder how much that actually matters

i wouldn't say im great at it either

but i feel like im able to cosplay as someone whose knowledgeable in systems in interviews

i just dont feel like they tend to go super in-depth

or are moreso looking for general coding skills

mayhaps, though i still wouldn't call myself an expert :P

yeah probably

but i think that's kinda true for candidates generally

e.g. janestreet screening for general software skills

hmm

like what?

right

so like they'll mostly just judge based on exp

communication

lowkey most important skill ive learend from interning LOL

that and how to work with codebase w more loc than my mom

so weird

sometimes i just wonder if wishing for perf work is just cooked

like

it's just rng

oh yeah

i feel like shaw was pretty good at making me do that

bcs i think it's cool

mostly

like it's a skill

yeah :(

ohhh interesting

i think part of it for us tho is that we're just all together in the same room

and the company is small enough

that most of us touch stuff that others have worked on

at shaw?

hmm

like talking about pay?

oh like

being okay with the idea that you're at trading bcs it makes money

oh

wait that sounds kinda cooked

wait what

they separate you as hard as possible but everyone still understands the whole pieline? 🤣 that's kinda hilarious actually, but i think more ownership is always good

oh

actually fair reason lol

oh like

it's more like

a bunch of small pipelines

rather than one big one

yeah that's always a good sign

honestly makes me a bit more bias towards multimanager firms

cos u get to touch more

mmmm

oh huh

interesting

so like kinda but not

but yeah fair enough pod is competitive

oh

we didn't have an nda LOL

actually shaw didn't either

iirc

i might be lying

i forget exactly what i signed

not that i don't try and be careful

oh yeah

how does NDA work for resume?

like do you just not list anything?

yeah thats what im trying to do rn

i think i just try and phrase it in the most general way that still makes sense

i have like exact numbers (e.g. optimized latency by X time) but I replaced it with %

and just guesstimated some random value

unironically i think that's the play

cos like

u dont wanna be too accurate anyway for nda reasons

yeah

yeah

honestly i just kinda guesstimate numbers

like maybe it's 10% or 15% or 20% (all of these are statistically significant and nontrivially-large)

¯_(ツ)_/¯

or at least the benchmarking i did at prev internships has been pretty bad

usually i didn't have actual benchmarks to run

so i just ballparked based on how performance seemed to be

oh yeah

that's really cool

even tho its hella grunt work

u get some good exp under ur belt :)

😎

tbh i think its also useful for ur own personal growth

so u can see what the impact is

:O

lol im wondering now :p

o right nda

:p

oh yeah that's very nice

tbh

thinking abt it

thats probably a stronger signal

well its like u had impact

impact > not sure if u had impact

but tbh that doesn't matter that much anyway

i feel like most of business success is figuring out what problems to solve

rahter than solving them in the 100% most optimal wtv

ye

ive done tm tooling internships

LOL

firm privacy moment 😂

need 2 yap irl 😂

:blobpsin

[low vault]

but they work remote 🥺

[lunar thicket]

Akuna

[low vault]

But I really align with their company name

Big H2O fan

Catch me next summer I finna be an akuna intern

[tight bear]

If youre going into an interview and get a question you've never seen before, you've already lost 😔

Unironically true tho

I think the real strategy making 10 diff accounts and hoping one of them lucks out with a combination of questions you know

[silk escarp]

LI?

[tight bear]

LinkedIn

[silk escarp]

oh

is there any way to get alerts for jobs posted

like if i want to apply within an hour

i dont see any positions posted 😭

[cedar sparrow]

bruh i need the easy qt process

[zenith panther]

👆👆👆

[cedar sparrow]

weiss

entire process is vibes

[zenith panther]

🥺

[tight bear]

wait thats not anti python tho

if it's passing that means the time limits are adjusted properly

i must be misunderstanding something

ok well in my defense its not clear from your statement that this was an optimization you had to do to get it to pass
also i kinda expected the logic here to be more involved than just replacing max 😭

why is that faster tho
do lambdas not have function call overhead?
or is the inequality operator faster than max for just two elements

[fiery pawn]

ppl have been complaining about this for years and they still haven’t changed it

[craggy monolith]

its probably the argument parising since max has to be generic.

[dusty temple]

@tardy shell could i dm about JS process?

[low vault]

Doesn’t max as well?

I think python functions are first class

So either way you incur overhead

[pulsar scarab]

The app for IMC quant said graduating between Sept 2025 and Aug 2026 and start dates in Feb and Sept.
You think they'll still let me apply as a dec 24 grad 😭

[tropic patrol]

Ur ngmi

Pack it up

[sleek smelt]

anyone know the optiver process?

[neon mirage]

yeah

i wont tell you though

[sleek smelt]

bro get your goofy ass outta here

[neon mirage]

This is how you look asking for a process of which there are thousands of boards online for

@sleek smelt

[cedar sparrow]

give alpha pls

[vale marlin]

send ic 2.0 !!

[safe rain]

hi yall—
for those who got quant internships coming from outside US/EU:

• what was your approximate CF/LC level when you got interviews?
• how much did GPA / school matter?
• and which firms were most open to sponsoring fulltime (post-internship)?

trying to optimize my prep — thanks in advance 🙏

[vale marlin]

47-18

[tight bear]

hmm 26 on default settings

jane street feel free to venmo me directly

out of curiosity, what type of scores do quant firms look for?

havent done mental math in yeaarss lmao

[cedar sparrow]

not a crazy take

this is valid

[cedar sparrow]

most of them dont gaf

very few firms have mental math tests in their processes

of the top of my head I think akuna maven and flow have them

optiver did but theyve sunset 80in8 from their OA

[thorn trench]

ik firms r saying they’re recruiting dec 26 grad date but does that affect the application chances at all?

[cedar sparrow]

sometimes they’re weird with it would rec putting may 27 instead

[thorn trench]

got it thank u

[worldly palm]

if we just started internships, do we need to describe them at all for all these quant applications that just opened? or is it ok if it's still just current intern or whatever

[low vault]

Most firms tend to be open to sponsoring

But we’d have to know your exact location/university/targeted recruitment region to make a better guess

[safe rain]

May i reach out in your dm or here?

[oblique smelt]

just apply to APAC if ur from apac

[safe rain]

No, CIS region

[safe rain]

Kazakhstan, Astana
Uni Astana IT University
Doesn't really matter, but i do aim for quant because i do love math
I heard that most of them in US Or Amsterdam

[oblique smelt]

apply for HK and London probably

are u at a uni in kazachstan?

[safe rain]

yeah

[oblique smelt]

ok so basically all the criteria will be same

for u

location only matters for where ur applying

but if u don't have like insane extracurriculars ur probably cooked for big quant firms ngl

[oblique smelt]

yeah true u can apply ams

[safe rain]

thanks for answer 🙂
oh btw — do you think having something like big amount of LC problems (with 200+ written community solutions), and like CM/Master on CF, makes any real difference when applying to quant internships (especially from outside US)?
wondering if that kind of signal actually helps or if it's mostly noise to recruiters 😅

[thorn trench]

can confirm optiver is weird w it 😂

[austere heath]

does quant referral help or not

[cedar sparrow]

yeah i think it’s because they’ve had people who r seniors larp extending grad date 1 sem when applying

and so they auto presume it’s larp

[austere heath]

Kazaksyn ba

[safe rain]

iya brat, you?

[austere heath]

iya

[safe rain]

nice to see you

[austere heath]

dm?

[hidden topaz]

rip they dont have the option to select my unknown state school

[thorn trench]

insta reject w dec 26 grad date

what

[oblique smelt]

Try make ICPC worlds, it makes the interview process for quant dev much easier

it's 2025

[thorn trench]

😭

[safe rain]

well, i will try to join local team in my uni, do you know equivalent of codeforce rating? so basically how far i need to climb tehre

[oblique smelt]

try IM

or well IM

what else would u do to stand out from a uni in kazachstan

ig yeah but that's how it is

I was doing cohomology theory 5 years ago just to play card games now

[oblique smelt]

but yeah CM won't really help for getting interviews p sure

[safe rain]

yeah, i guess that there is a lot of work to do in next years

.-.

[hardy marsh]

Does anyone have experience w/ quant strats -- and know of anything related to quant strats interviews plz help

🙏

also is ctc out?

[safe rain]

no impact at all or just CM alone you mean?

[oblique smelt]

CM alone, it's too common

U also need to market it properly on ur resume

[safe rain]

Well, now its interesting how far i can climb on codeforces while my bachelor years

i guess gotta work hard and tirelessly

[oblique smelt]

U can also do other things, unique projects, reach out to a lot of small funds to gain exp, math competitions (like IMC)

[safe rain]

Well, i do have some plan, i still wanna try myself in competetive programming and at same time when im solving leetcode problems write as many community-solutions as possible to make a blog or sum

And of course gain exp in small funds must to do

[oblique smelt]

idk if the LC matters for quant

[safe rain]

yeah, hearing that CM is too common was a bit surprising, but I guess it makes sense considering how many people are grinding now. I’ll still aim to get there — maybe more — just to push my limits.
As for LC, I thought writing a blog with deep solution breakdowns could be a decent way to show thinking and help others too.

[oblique smelt]

Just saying recruiters don't have time to read a blog, so wouldn't help with ur interview chances

[safe rain]

Really appreciate you answering all my rookie questions — helped a ton, and I’ll definitely put the advice to use 🙂

[oblique smelt]

not enough from non target p sure

[cedar sparrow]

bro what

i swear being a CM is insanely hard

[oblique smelt]

it's 1600 no?

[lyric orchid]

I saw someone from my school get jump with a 1600

But then again I go to a target for dev

[low vault]

Uh sure but I saw that you’re from Eastern Europe, idk if I rly have much useful information on that front :( I’m from NA

[lyric orchid]

ong

[low vault]

I feel like for WF you probably want 2400? Not sure how competitive EU regions are

[low vault]

It’s 1900

[cedar sparrow]

yeah i’m like what

[low vault]

I’ve just been desensitized to cf rankings atp

Tbf I spent very little time at 1900

I was hardstuck blue and then quickly went to 2100

And then hardstuck again

Until I broke to like 2400

[low vault]

Yep

Thank god it’s not cos of my own undoing

I got jump scared cos I mistakenly sent a resume to sketchy recruiter ytd

[lucid cloak]

Bro checked the smurf account

[oblique smelt]

Wait how much is plasmatic

I thought I had all time high cf score here

I stopped in 9th grade

Basically when I made IMO camp I stopped

ok I was red when I was like 14? Or maybe 13

Idr

Didn't make lgm tho

wdym? like language?

cpp

I just accidentally blasted music in my office

It took me like 30 sec to figure out how to mute my computer

Hope I don't get fired

[low vault]

!!

What’s ur handle 👀

[neon mirage]

Immigrant parents

[zenith panther]

whats antihash

dont u just not use hash

or do u mean for hacks

do ppl actually care that much abt hacks

[low vault]

Hacks are super rare loooool

I’m glad they have mostly moved away from having bad pretexts

[low vault]

Same LOL

[safe rain]

Well, in ICPC, Kazakhstan competes in Central Asia region

[safe rain]

kind of a scary thing to know for me tbf

[safe rain]

Thanks, i have sent friend request 🙂 cant dm

[low vault]

I think they do

But hacks in general are rare

[south crypt]

Hi everyone! DId anybody do a SIG OA recently?

Any help is deeply appreciated!

are you saying the OA for SIG is easy?

[zenith panther]

just do the fkn OA man

lock in

maybe its for trading

sig swe lwk free as hell tho

[south crypt]

i am sorry i created some anger . this is the first time i am doing an OA , with any company and i was just a bit nervous.

[foggy flower]

i forgive u

❤️

In light of youre journey of emotional understaning, I(meta recruiter) would like to refer you

[safe rain]

o_O

[dire finch]

lizzy street doesnt have the same aura as jane street tbh

[gentle torrent]

is there a way for me to go through the common c++ (interview) stuff besides reading the standard

an interviewer asked me about [[maybe_unused]] and i was flabbergasted

should i just go through entire cppreference

[gentle torrent]

also do trading firms even write template irl unless they're overwriting stl why do ppl keep asking template stuff for interview

[spiral garden]

yes

[spiral garden]

yes

[low vault]

Yeah we have a lot of random template stuff

[zenith panther]

ngl most of the time the compiler can just do it too

template for unrolling, branches, etc

are a limitation of the language

when we shouldnrly just specify the cond or value is comptime

💔

yes bruh

dead code analysis

😭😭😭

🥀🥀🥀

ngl if ur using templates for ts

u made a mistake

a long long time ago

templates are for library writing only

anything else is 💀💀💀

esp w/ all the consteval and constexpr stuff coming out

mf in #quants-n-traders

what do u expect

@rose holly onlytime u use templates for this is for a generic version

in a library

but its jot inplicit to templates

its just a nice festure due to psrameters being known at compiletime

[zenith panther]

but thats for a completely different use case

yeah u didnt read the conversation

🥀🥀🥀

💔💔💔

its alr

im just heing sassy online

💀💀💀

[quasi orbit]

holy teach me

[opaque shadow]

Hello, can anyone share on how to break into quant roles or finance in general? I come from a comp sci background. Will graduate next year, want to get into something that is not purely tech.

[dire finch]

ur too late

[fresh swallow]

If he's fine with doing swe then no

For quant tho prolly

[shrewd agate]

PhD is always better than masters

[zenith panther]

study hard

[shell nymph]

what's the citadel trading oa cutoff?

[rugged rampart]

This is definitely true

Applying to PhD?

[dire finch]

bro the entire bicycle

qr -> swe wtf

[proud lion]

does anyone know what to expect for vatic labs qt process?

[plucky verge]

N1 optiver OA advice, thought I did well and been sacked 2 summers in a row

[jovial quail]

they'll res screen after oa? like citadel?

[pulsar scarab]

I am Ms and good with states, where is my qr/qd/swe process

[low vault]

Yeah I believe so

[mellow aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[vale marlin]

i wouldnt add course

[wicked lotus]

How does citadel referral work for interns? Can applicant apply first and get referred or do they have to apply through separate portal

[rare basin]

arent you at MIT or something

[granite bough]

what is citadel swe intern interview like

[zenith panther]

1 phone, 3 back to back, leadership rounds for team match

if u het citsec it isnt for team match

the first 2 sections are usually LC

leadership is more behavioral

usually

[granite bough]

gurt: yo

[zenith panther]

yo

[cursive granite]

I know that the market is brutal, but let's say I got a job, will I be earning good money as a non-CS grad or is there a ceiling?

I know my skillset is relatively low but I think I have good knowledge of HTML, CSS, JS, React, Next.js and React Native - what do I need next? Study CS basics, or may be study some backend first?

I also have a question when it comes to AI and the healthcare industry, where can I ask about that?

[hearty stag]

does citsec ever not offer an oa

[last rune]

anyone here ever done imc oa?

[celest vale]

Anyone know what optiver phone screen is like?

[rose holly]

@celest vale check dms

[craggy steppe]

can anyone lmk as well 🙏

[analog stump]

yes, if u get bl!

[hearty stag]

erm how do you get blacklisted

[analog stump]

failing oa i think

or also probs from interview?

[dark rover]

Hi! I was applying for the optiver quant trading internship. Is it 70k compensation for the summer? https://optiver.com/working-at-optiver/career-opportunities/7832160002/?gh_src=9fb491cd2

If it's expected salary annually, why is it so low? 😦

[low vault]

For just the summer

[dark rover]

Dang wow

[analog stump]

ngmi

[low vault]

I don’t think it’s a big deal for most firms

[low vault]

Yeah it’s a big money

[oblique smelt]

damn what job did u work at before this

70k is lowball for bro

[stoic wigeon]

no way 😭

is that citsec ng no nego for qt?

or is it this

crazy tho like wtf

[wispy leaf]

How do ppl prep even for optiver OA? Like the video game section

[stoic wigeon]

it’s 70-80k just for the summer

[stoic wigeon]

those u can just rawdog they ain’t bad

but prep for the mental math part

80 in 8

[wispy leaf]

Word

[stoic wigeon]

also practice 24

[oblique smelt]

how much was it this year

[stoic wigeon]

the game u have to combine the numbers to make 24

[stoic wigeon]

idk prob around that

most quant firms pay that for the summer

[wispy leaf]

Where do u practice it

[stoic wigeon]

there’s apps

[oblique smelt]

ayo I feel bad ab my comp now 😭

[low vault]

Aren’t u at 5r

[oblique smelt]

no

no

I wna kms

Only 3 sick days

Is diabolical

Is everyones immune system that good in nyc?

[low vault]

holy shit thats crazy

biggest internship $ ive seen lol

deshaw,js,radix lol

rip

110k for an intern is crazy tho

thats like 440 annualized

yeah deshaw is the highest

possibly

uh

so like idk what ft looks like

this is jut for intern

but i realized that intern pay isn't that relevant cos

its mostly ft pay

but mainly cos smaller company + hft which I feel like is a better environment for swe monkeys like me

i think prestige/comp/wlb is roughly the same

tho i heard js gets a shitton of vacation days

?

wait im still confused what ur question is 😭

wdym how it affects js?

oh

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gerko_here-is-my-view-on-jane-street-story-based-activity-7347200203814305792-ycIW/

so like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

like this indian options ban stuff is public knowledge now that there's news posted on it

afaik the lawsuit goes into the extract strategy used too

adfsjdskfjakdsfj

but yeah there's not too much of a need to beat around the bush on this tbh now that its public

i think everyone has their own take on whether SEBI was right or not etc.

[proven salmon]

Hey everyone, did anyone heard about wallstreetquants ? If yes, can you let me know how it is?

[tight bear]

anybody here got resources for like
brain teasers and stuff

i have an interview at a small local algo trading firm, and i've been told that there might be puzzles and brain teasers involved

[mellow aurora]

@lunar thicket just for you

[rose holly]

Does anyone here know anything about DaVinci Trading or have done a process with them? Recruiter seems to really want to interview me despite 0 quant exp

[vast arch]

wish somoene told me this earlier

😭

[cold heart]

Is the IMC oa auto?

Okay, I got it after like a week

[tropic patrol]

@lunar thicket WE are getting that offer

That # still has me in awe

I think they r taking a lot of ppl

Bc the Hm reached out to my Ngmi friend

Like he’s a f500 intern from state school

Rlly?

What’s ur take

10-15?

Tbf

If u can pass one round u will pass all

selection bias too

apparently they interviewed 100 ppl for my team at my firm

and we have like 3 hc so I’m sure this firm

interviewing a shit ton

QR or QD

Damnnnnn

LMAO

dude if we get it we should just buy a place there

Penthouse

LMFAOOOO

need to buy a webcam I’ve been doing them at office

[thick dock]

Quantable!

[wicked lotus]

Did anyone took imc oa?

[barren robin]

no

[safe rain]

who has cf rating 2000+ can you dm me? ty

[oblique smelt]

I do

[oblique smelt]

not for free idk u

£

dollar crashed so dollar won't do it anymore

[marble hemlock]

Chinese yuan

[native pumice]

Is the Geneva OA auto?

Makes sense then

How’d you do in prosperity

T150 I don’t remember the other placements

And by t150 I mean 150th

Round 4 was tough

[vast arch]

oh shi

yall did prosperity

bruh we were t10

t5 actually

entire comp

then we fucked last round

useless shi tho

we didn't jack from imc

[woven robin]

I know this is a stretch but anyone down to swap mocks for CitSec experienced QR role?

[cold heart]

Anyone done IMC OA?

[quasi orbit]

yes i just did it in 10 minutes

[peak pulsar]

Js out?

[shadow bough]

anybody know what score you need to pass on citadel launch OA?

[mystic valve]

@timber swift knows because he had proc

he is my ex friend because he egos tf outta me

[shadow bough]

thank you

[timber swift]

yo keep yourself safe ✌️

[shadow bough]

can i dm you?

[timber swift]

no ill just leak alpha here

[shadow bough]

king

[timber swift]

u dont need a perfect score

[shadow bough]

i got first question AC but the second question was worded so badly 😭

[timber swift]

ok

[shadow bough]

do you think 6/15 passes on second question or do you need like 10+

i have a p good resume

[timber swift]

i passed with a 15/15 12/15

i think i heard others pass with a 3/15 LMAO

its just resume

[shadow bough]

king 👑

or queen idk but royalty fs

[timber swift]

i identify as a nonbinary cat

[shadow bough]

did you do it?

[mellow aurora]

rent is not this high.

[marble hemlock]

How long it took u to hear back after oa?

[candid cliff]

Anyone know how optiver first round is

[pulsar scarab]

no vaseline

broomstick that fits u perfect

[late kindle]

How was OA coding question ?

[cyan ridge]

Anyone have Palantir NG tech/vo coming up?

I will have all IMC stuff shortly and I have all last years too, DM me

[late kindle]

Good luck mate

[oblique smelt]

fraud is an infinite money glitch

[safe rain]

does mental math somehow helps in solving leetcode/codeforce?
maybe buffs brain overall or sum

[safe rain]

?

idk, keep more stuff in mind at same time etc

ok, thanks

[red rune]

i’m ngmi

[thin temple]

Bro def works at optiver

Yo does flow traders really just vibe trade?

[blissful kite]

Flow traders earnings jumpscare

[sleek smelt]

does jane street have cooldown?

[rotund glacier]

Yeah

[peak pulsar]

how long?

[rotund glacier]

Until you get good

[smoky matrix]

If I apply to one company as a SWE and trader and they offer me a call for SWE then would that potentially stop them from considering me for trading separately?

[sharp stone]

can someone help me fix my res for quant intern? im fucked i have recruiter call with qr and swe recruiter and idk what to do

[cursive terrace]

Anyone here done the NXT interview process? As I understand the levels vary but wondering what to expect for technical/sys design questions

[low ermine]

Has anyone got QT oa for SIG/IMC/citsec? How long did it take to get oa after applying?

[rose holly]

has anyone done tower process?

[pulsar scarab]

swe?

[rose holly]

mlr

[hearty stag]

i am in a similar position

[dire finch]

hi can i land quant im currently in the air

[untold prawn]

hi can i land quant im currently in the sea

[dire finch]

bro got no beaches (this is a ship joke)

[analog stump]

i think js actually does consider sophomores seriously, so you should be fine applying 28

[low vault]

Personally, I wouldn't fake my grad date for JS

I think you're better off getting a referral if you want to interview early

[analog stump]

yea many

oh wait

idk if they didnt larp

mb

[safe rain]

what kind of job application in your bio

im curious

[last rune]

Anyone know the passing bar for the imc oa for swe

[safe rain]

yearly salary?

is she blonde?

im 6.6666666666ft tall
6 figures in the back (zimbabve currency)
and 6pack
im applying

you are shameless dude

[broken thorn]

same but im 5'12 and its usd

[last rune]

does anyone know what are the chances of getting imc interview with perfect score on oa?

[dire finch]

about 2

[low vault]

200%

so you'll get 2 interviews

[last rune]

wait wdym

[hardy marsh]

if anyone knows what a quant strats process is like plz hmu

[marble hemlock]

is imc oa auto?

[young pasture]

can someone tell me when should i apply for full time if im graduating next spring

[oblique smelt]

like asap

tomorrow

[hardy marsh]

🔥

[low vault]

can someone tell me when should i apply for full time if im graduating next spring

[low vault]

💔

[marble hemlock]

Anyone did gsa capital phone?

Let me dm

[lunar olive]

is it already too late? 😔

[last rune]

Hey guys for sig gca is a 600 basically the min requirement to get interview?

[oblique smelt]

what's his current summer 🧐

[twin coral]

wait low-key i haven't checked the chat much, but how have u guys been preparing for sequence type questions?

how many shld we aim to get to hear back for a real interview?

[shut sparrow]

I think there’s only a handful that are relatively nontrivial out of 26

Like the rest are pretty straightforward

Which is enough to pass

[twin coral]

That's reassuring

[oblique smelt]

just tell me what firm it is

unnecessary comment

where is the rage?

[late kindle]

What was citadel OA trading like if anyone knows ?

[last rune]

curious is imc oa for ng auto

or is it also non auto like intern

[analog stump]

do quant companies push summer offers to spring/fall

[last rune]

is it true that imc fires 50% of NG every year

is this the case with any other firms too

also whats the main reason

https://www.reddit.com/r/quant/comments/1jo9i9u/comment/mku5fhw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

is this cause of the question bank lmao

i feel like if ur not hypsm theres a higher chance u get laid off then

oh makes sense

cause ur building stuff to help make profit

and if the stuff u build sucks u wont help make any

[austere heath]

are u ng or intern

[last rune]

intern

[hot tree]

Anyone do Citadel SWE New Grad OA? Anything I need to focus on?

[austere heath]

leetcode

[hot tree]

Any specific topics?

[austere heath]

DSA

it's rng

just know all of them

[hot tree]

Did you do it?

[austere heath]

yeah

[hot tree]

inter or new grad?

[austere heath]

ng

[hot tree]

what DSA / algo you get?

[austere heath]

a rare one and a common one

I can't tell more

[hot tree]

ok

[last rune]

@austere heath were u gonna answer my question or nah lol

[austere heath]

lmao so this channel is just free alpha now

[austere heath]

probably yeah, I dont know for sure

[languid parrot]

Anyone here alg trade or are quants

Been looking to try use coding into my trading and optimizing it

[untold prawn]

💀

[languid parrot]

What’s wrong lol

That skull best not be for me lol

[neon mirage]

Yes i am a quantitative investor, here is my algorithm

If (low)
buy
else
sell

[hazy dune]

Does anyone have any advice. I just graduated but I was thinking of trying to break into quant after a year or two at my swe job so I’m wondering if you guys think it’s possible

[languid parrot]

Bro I thought there were real quant traders here 😭

[marble hemlock]

Nah we all are ngmi

We work janitors at citadel

Little firm

[mellow aurora]

yeah @limpid pulsar is

[untold prawn]

if u want to break into trading/research u prolly can't

[trim jetty]

how easy is it to break into firms like Citadel and 2S for quant swe as a new grad without prior quant exp? Only big tech internships

I guess in other words is it still possible to get interviews from these firms for ng?

[pearl parcel]

not easy. still possible but unlikely unless you graduate from an “elite” school or have something like contest placements

[neon mirage]

Yes it’s possible with big tech

Put some respek on it

[hazy dune]

Do you mean I can’t break into quant dev?

[hazy cargo]

what do you need

[hidden topaz]

im assuming diff OAs then for each role

went with full stack since it aligns with my exp more

hm

i pray python full stack doesnt fuck me over

or it will anyway 💀

[weak ermine]

whats tqd

[marble hemlock]

I dont think its fully full stack tho? In description they were also talking about infra nd other stuff

Aint no way u doing dashboard at akuna

[hidden topaz]

dont think its absolutely full stack

i just thought of applying to that one because i knew web dev and python beforehand

[marble hemlock]

I would do cpp but fuck doing oas in it

[languid parrot]

What coding softwares do yall use to write scripts like write your code

Anyone hear of anaconda

I’m trying to use it to learn how to code like trading bots or to automate my trading

this

Also why do you use Claude and copilot

a person told me I shouldn’t use ai to learn python because I would be too reliant on it and I can’t tell whether the code is correct or not, like bugs and stuff

[marble hemlock]

Nah js vibe code bro

[gray moon]

Two DP problems applied to creating bond formula at least for QR NG

Idk why gatekeep an OA from ai avenger

The OA is such a small part of the process

[weak ermine]

what does it stand for

[low ermine]

Has anyone taken DRW QT intern OA? What to expect?

[untold prawn]

nah dev u could just prolly not other roles

[hazy dune]

That’s fine. Do u think it’s still possible to break through into dev?

[untold prawn]

yea, u might need to work ur way up depending on ur current position and/or school tho

[hazy dune]

Do you reccomend just projects and competitive programming and then trying to network to get in?

[proud fossil]

I feel like projects don’t matter nearly as much if you’re gonna have 2 years of relevant work experience

[untold prawn]

idt either matter much tbh, it's all ab ur exp

[hazy dune]

Well im in a swe role so how could i get quant experience

Or r u saying swe experience is good enough?

[untold prawn]

thats fine if ur goal is quant dev, my point is that u just need a good swe resume

[hazy dune]

can I dm you a couple more questions

[untold prawn]

sure

[low vault]

No way im trying to make a bot too

[low vault]

i'd prob just do them in the mornings

or after hours if you can

[low vault]

yeah

i agree

last year i did some pre intense interviewing and it was :X

[low vault]

yeah em too 😭

but im also worried that w processes starting so early htis yr im cooking myself by not starting early

[untold prawn]

can't u just book a conference room? or like u dont even need to tbh, who's watching u?

[low vault]

maybe its a company size concern?

if small company its somewhat obv

[marble hemlock]

Waking up at 5 am😭

[untold prawn]

if ur just applying u could just do it on ur work laptop

vdi?

ohh damn

schedule the phones after work?

[low vault]

😭 no idea what td

[low vault]

is this possible at most companies?

i feel like usually it's not possible/not a great look

maybe cit is fine cos they have like apac offices or whatever

yeah

tech opens later anyway tho :p

[untold prawn]

u can schedule for like 6 est which is 3 pst no?

oh yeah ig u cant rlly do anything ab that

do u have 5 day rto?

[kind inlet]

anyone know if the sig oa is auto?

[untold prawn]

starting at 7 is diabolical

[dire finch]

sig
qd

hmmm

[wicked lotus]

Did anyone hear back after IMC swe intern oa?

[last rune]

Did u get perfect?

[wicked lotus]

Yup

[last rune]

dm

[last rune]

I got perf score as well but if everyone else got perfect score it’s cooked for me cause everyone’s prev and school mogs mine

[barren robin]

2sig

[slate pond]

whats the process like for qr at 2s?

[lunar olive]

how hard is akuna swe OA assessment 1

[brisk nova]

did optiver just half all their internships pay??

[tropic patrol]

Like 9 rounds

[marble hemlock]

Yea, they screen after

Time to get nonivy rejected

[brisk nova]

the posting says base salary 70-80k

[oblique smelt]

someones mad

[onyx vigil]

anyone in miami? wondering what it's like compared to nyc/sf

miami is citsec, but more wondering about social life etc

firm aside, curious why do u say it's better?

this is for swe btw, if that makes a diff

[untold prawn]

it's p much better than sf/nyc in every way; afaik the only drawback might be the dating scene but that's not relevant if ur at citsec anyways

[oblique smelt]

weather goated? it's lowk too hot no?

also the insects

taxes and food checks out

[rose holly]

Hi

Nice to meet you

[devout sparrow]

Miami somehow not as disgusting as orlando/tampa imo but still fairly bad

ive been in ny during summer for a bit and its unbearable, sf weather is actually really nice imo but the city itself is a shithole

[rose holly]

hi paper towel

nice to meet you

why are u wet?

[devout sparrow]

Got used to clean up a spill

[wet cedar]

wet bc they just saw me

[devout sparrow]

: /

[wet cedar]

HAH

[rose holly]

wow

hot

[devout sparrow]

NY food is also borderline unbeatable imo, but miami is still highly regarded

[rose holly]

Are you fat?

[devout sparrow]

I didnt really have a problem w insects whenever I was in miami, dating scene is also the hardest there imo but all three cities are really bad for dating so idt it matters

[devout sparrow]

?

[rose holly]

women are easy to get

you must be kind and likeable

[rose holly]

Only fat people obsess over food.

I don't think women like that?

[devout sparrow]

skinny people cant have food?

😂

[devout sparrow]

I must have missed the memo I fear

[rose holly]

not sure what that means.

[rose holly]

No, the way you described it made you sound fat, almost like you're in love with food.

[devout sparrow]

dont delete lucielle

stand behind your words

[rose holly]

It would've hurt you if I kept that up.

[devout sparrow]

its fine, nothing can hurt more than being unattractive to women

[rose holly]

I think if you speak well then women will like you.

[devout sparrow]

how can I speak well?

[rose holly]

eye rape is a good sign of that, if they stare it means they like you

usually

you should

stare back at them

[devout sparrow]

eye excuse me?

[rose holly]

look them up and down

[rose holly]

when they stare at you for a long time

look you up and down

it must mean

they are attracted to you

[devout sparrow]

what if I am oblivious to things like that?

[rose holly]

i'm not sure then

[devout sparrow]

I usually assume they are just randomly looking

[rose holly]

try to sit in places with people and stare at them, notice their movements and see if you can find a pattern.

do that for a few weeks

then talk to the person

[devout sparrow]

Is that what you did?

[rose holly]

I'm not sure i never speak to them like that

[rose holly]

no

i only stare

i never get to stage 2

[devout sparrow]

Can I talk to them before I stare at them for multiple weeks?

[rose holly]

i notice patterns though

[rose holly]

not sure it's up to you

[devout sparrow]

This sounds like I would get in trouble

[rose holly]

really

[devout sparrow]

What patterns do you notice?

[rose holly]

where they walk usually, most people tend to have a pattern or time they go out

so sometimes I will notice

[devout sparrow]

I would say staring at strangers for weeks on end would come off in a not-amazing-way yes

[rose holly]

this women

and her dog

walking the same route

at 11:00 PM

for the past 3 walks I noticed that

[devout sparrow]

oh so it was over before it started huh

[rose holly]

maybe I can go talk to her one day

she seems cute

but i don't know it's dark and I don't ever notice

[devout sparrow]

are you a lesbian lucielle?

@craggy monolith question, why does const int& x = 10; auto y = x; deduce y as an int and not a const int?

[rose holly]

what is that?

[devout sparrow]

a woman who likes other women

[rose holly]

yes

[devout sparrow]

wait are you without work?

[rose holly]

meaning?

[devout sparrow]

how can you notice someone walking at 11 am?

[rose holly]

no

PM

[devout sparrow]

or are you working a non traditional schedule

why are you out at 11pm every night?

[rose holly]

I feel safe with less people around.

it's very peaceful

I can analyze many things about people

stare for longer

without them noticing

and I tend to get scared

[devout sparrow]

yes but is there a way to separate the pass by reference and the const?

[rose holly]

by people

[devout sparrow]

like to me it seems like I can only use auto to pass by value or pass as an immutable reference

what if I want to pass it as a reference and mutate said value?

[devout sparrow]

I do think this is a reasonable thing, I also would find it strange if I was on the receiving end

😂

[rose holly]

Really

how come?

I don't ever talk to them and stay far away

I just

stare

[devout sparrow]

It's a perfectly valid and reasonable concern to want to feel safe and comfortable

It's also perfectly valid and reasonable to be scared shitless if someone was staring at you every day

yes but is there a way to pass it as a reference without it being const or vice versa?

or would I just need to declare type explicitly in that case

no it deduces const& int to int if you just use auto

but if you use auto& it deduces to const int&

I want to know if theres a way to use auto and just deduce either const int or int&

I know the basic rules surrounding it

I want to know if there are ways around it

like what is unclear about the question

if I just cant do it just say that

I can always just declare the type explicitly

and not use auto

I just wanted to know if there was a way to use auto and separate the reference pass from the const

since you either

const int& x = 10;
auto y = (int) 10;
auto& z = (const int&) 10;

ah okay ty that makes sense, what if I wanted to drop the pass by reference and only keep the const?

I dont have a use case

I was just curious

[rose holly]

im a masters no experience but can i qualify

[devout sparrow]

also last question

what are the common use cases where you can properly justify using auto

you cant just slap auto anytime youre too lazy to type out an entire type decl since thats less clear no?

you wouldnt just do something like using superlongasstype shortened name?

okay this makes sense tyty

[rose holly]

heeheehee

[devout sparrow]

yes you were right I am a cpp noob, I understood the why for just the specific auto type decl

[rose holly]

sending

[devout sparrow]

I just wanted to ask a completely unnecessary question to satisfy my own curiosity

[rose holly]

My time has come

hows q recruiting going for yall

[devout sparrow]

specifically quant?

its cooked vro

had a phone with one of the bigger firms

told em I was in procs for the smaller ones and one big firm

immediately got asked "okay so assuming you had the offer for us and the human firm who would you take and why?"

[rose holly]

what?

[devout sparrow]

ur telling me companies like jane and 5r dont care if im in trillium swe proc??

what if I was gonna take valkyrie python dev over jump qr?

😂

[rose holly]

Skill issue?

[devout sparrow]

im on getcracked.io, working on a fix for that

[rose holly]

whats that?

[devout sparrow]

specifically to build cpp domain knowledge

[rose holly]

idk what that is..

[devout sparrow]

what are you trying to be after college?

I assume you're in college

[rose holly]

??

[devout sparrow]

I keep failing all these cpp trivia questions

might be doomed for the kid

[slate crown]

Anyone do Jane street phone?

[rose holly]

I will be first black non dei women at Radix or Jane Street!

Not black though

yes

I don't think people are smart over there

not an alt

I'm just a girl trying to break into quant

friend of @icy portal

um no

frrr

I will go do my hair now.

[devout sparrow]

name three protective hairstyles.

👀

[rose holly]

Box Braids, Twists and Cornrows.

How can u ask such a silly question to a girl

ughh

[devout sparrow]

you googled that shit

😂

[rose holly]

no

yess

go girlll

[devout sparrow]

is wearing your bonnet in public okay yes or no?

[rose holly]

ofc

why wouldn't it be

it's up to personal choice

[devout sparrow]

yeah you're larp

Only people who think thats okay are black women from the hood

and no one in the hood knows quant

[rose holly]

protecting your hair matters more than anything

[rose holly]

not true

[devout sparrow]

its not protecting your hair wearing your bonnet in public

if you were fr a sista youd know its because you didnt do your hair for whatever reason

you cant be getting caught in lvl1 traps

[rose holly]

girll its up to you to decide

[rose holly]

wdymm

lets all vc ughhh

where are my girls at

ughh

[devout sparrow]

sorry my mics broke!

sob

and I have to go to the gym

[rose holly]

you won't get to talk to a women for the first time in your life LOL

incel!

[rose holly]

send pic in dm?

are u a skinny twig

ughhh

gahhh

not a troll?

[devout sparrow]

lowk I might just accept my fate

as some cougars boy toy

[rose holly]

weirdo why are you judging me

[devout sparrow]

I was out w some friends and one of em started dancing so I got into it

and I got catcalled by some lady having a drink

[rose holly]

what kind of dancing?

[rose holly]

Ooo go her!!

[devout sparrow]

no not go her

I was a victim girl

[rose holly]

oh wow

[devout sparrow]

I was dwerking...

[rose holly]

hi who are you? why do you have taffy added

[devout sparrow]

I was asking for it huh

[rose holly]

it's up to everyone to decide

yes, we're bbfs

you should!!

[devout sparrow]

andrew is like the one guy id expect to have no alts