Das crazy
#quants-n-traders
tough sand
mellow aurora
I've only seen the crying video because she left quant lmao
tulip sapphire
her startup is making millions lol
potent iron
anyone know eagle seven tc?
dire briar
half apex
took citadel first round, they want another phone. does this mean i didn’t get rejected but also didn’t pass the first phone?
wintry tendon
took citadel first round, they want another phone. does this mean i didn’t get r...
what role?
rose holly
Where the blacks at tho
twin cloud
took citadel first round, they want another phone. does this mean i didn’t get r...
it means not enough data to move forward with you or not
hearty rivet
@cyan shoal tips on arrowstreet?
oblique orbit
Has anyone here taken and done well in IMC trading intern final round that I can DM?
ocean gazelle
what firm lmao
main totem
Has anyone here taken and done well in IMC trading intern final round that I can...
what was process like up until final?
lost current
congrats on 200/hr
upbeat forum
thanks
atomic quail
Nobody gonna be working in quant this year.
cyan shoal
Last year quant hired a ton. Do you guys think that’s go to continuing this year or they are cutting back this year
But idk as much abt js, Imc, optiver, etc
Yea that’s what I figured
Prop trading like jump idk where they are at though but I think their business is doing well
oblique orbit
what was process like up until final?
I did launchpad
low vault
tbh i feel like most top cfers are nice and just regular people
i met neal_wu about a year ago at a job fair once
queen vapor
They're not doing great compared to last year
amber yacht
https://tenor.com/view/joe-platypus-phineas-and-ferb-perry-dance-gif-15066322
What the fuck
ocean gazelle
i didnt even know they did interns lol
yeah
on the contrary, this is a funny troll: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sudesh-ramkrishnabhagavan-747943247/
grand crater
Auto OA vibes
round portal
Anyone get an email about drw interview and then the recruiter never scheduled it
wintry tendon
they are just terribly slow, if its been really long just follow up
round portal
bro wat 😭
proper oracle
Is there any where we can post for quant trader resume review
wide temple
actually evil interview question that i just got:
given a list of numbers and probabilities, make a random function
should work in constant time and bounds are 1 bill random numbers, and 10 decimal points small
no libraries
blind75+ did not prepare me for this lol
lol i tried to say just make an array with 1b numbers and he denied me
instantly
1 billion
hes like yeah technically that would work
but
find another solution
memory inefficient sure but it kinda works
gsa cap
- a bunch of trivia
and finance knowledge
what is a swap, etc.
wasnt oa like 10 day limit
nb too after doing akuna oa2
oh lol
googled it, solution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_method
genuinely
its taught in a masters level stats class at my university
my only hope is that everyone sucks as equally as i do (or harder)
and they're not expecting you to get the right answer on this one
tulip sapphire
given a list of numbers and probabilities, make a random function
is this asking us to create a pdf, or use a pdf to create a rv?
wide temple
use pdf to create rv i think?
if im understanding your question
you have the cdf
its more of a programming question than a stats question
amber yacht
Nerds
amber yacht
I use arch btw
amber yacht
bro is using me as a translator
what does "te miras como una perra puta" mean
opaque sable
My team got a bus
Sounds like ur jealous
It’s called the citawheels, ask ur manager
amber yacht
@regal sorrel what about bw ie ft
languid acorn
Just had my 3rd interview with bw. And the person said there’s a fourth one. Is Bridgewater even worth it at this point 😭😭
languid acorn
Same. I don’t think the comp for bw matches the other hfs
stray flare
anyone interested in forex? cuz it is the only trading i know how to do
lol
should I ask him?
what does it mean to mention me with his tag?
twin cloud
yes
stray flare
ok I would like to ask him if he could give me a shot with demo account and maybe I could trade for him 🙂
or maybe not cuz nobody trusts anyone with their money so never mind
I get stressed up when someone says what if you destroy all my money then what am i supossed to do?
thats why I never want to trade for anyone but just thought maybe someone could try me to see if I can do something
languid acorn
Is ie a front office role at bw? @regal sorrel
stray flare
so whats the right way
I wanted to trade other people's money but as I've said no one will trust me and I said never mind so it is not a problem
but I wanna learn quant trading
as I said no one will and I said never mind 😉
you can see my all my messages
buddies I just said something and when I thought of the responsibilities i will face then No it is not gonna happen
lol
lost leaf
@rose holly
stray flare
yep s tier bait lol do you even thought I am trolling dude if I wanted to do that I would just ask and show some confusing information of my portolio to troll and blah blah blah
I just said something then regret it as it has big responsibility
trade on 1H time frame
yep heard me right
if you want big wins
and simple and 100% reliable trades
solar axle
Quant finance is a toxic field
stray flare
Quant finance is a toxic field
It is actually trading a toxic field
no one wants to lose money
solar axle
That’s how I like it
stray flare
lol well I paper traded with 10$ and made some profits but never had the nuts to trade on real money because of my situation which is not enough money and no one can work here in my family
in this country people die for 10$ a day
wait for an uptrend to end
yeah this is how you make only profits cuz I never lost with this
and you dont need to be on the screen all day
since im not full time trader
I am actually programmer
im thinking that out
and I will sure do it
I made a triangular arbitrage bot on binance
well since I had some left overs it did not go well
crypto trading sucks
sure that is a good idea if I was in europe or us or other countires
but im living in the most sanctioned country
Iran
im doing good in programming and AI
everything will be better in future I hope
low vault
Sanction is fucked
One of our icpc team members was iranian one year
We couldnt go to NAC bc of visa issues
💀
stray flare
yeah thats right
low vault
stray flare
we have to use vpn to use internet lol
and we have to pay for it
no free vpn working loool
ok it is almost 12 of midnight here so I have to go to sleep bye bye
lyric loom
:meowhuggies:
uncut steeple
forex?
yeah forex is hugely levered
there's a SEC rule capping equities to 2:1 though
how
oh there's an accredited investor thing
yeah I've heard prop shops can give you 10:1 on your money in equity options
amber yacht
owo
lyric loom
owo
tulip sapphire
I think its higher, ik lots of people at least
tulip sapphire
Ik a good amnt of people who were
low vault
akuna C++ OA hard as balls but QD OA easy ?? 
ocean gazelle
akuna C++ OA hard as balls but QD OA easy ?? <:Hmmm:821799408169254912>
oa1 or oa2?
low vault
oa1 or oa2?
oa1
grand forge
am a trader and im trying to try to make a simple 24/7 trend following system
can you enlighten me the basic things needed to execute this project?
ik c++/rust is recommended for this kind of things but was wondering if i can maybe use python?
Also, how’s the infra look like
i don’t necessarily want to be quant
stray flare
ik c++/rust is recommended for this kind of things but was wondering if i can ma...
if you found out that it can be done by python let me know because i need that too
grand forge
if you found out that it can be done by python let me know because i need that t...
it's not hft though so i think python can be fine?
stray flare
it's not hft though so i think python can be fine?
alright thanks
btw how much do entry quan traders make per year?
and is there age limit?
mellow aurora
What
wraith wolf
If this dude worked as a QT at a real firm he would not be asking college students on a public discord to write python code. He’s probably just day trading or smth
stray flare
If this dude worked as a QT at a real firm he would not be asking college studen...
maybe but is it true that quant traders make 200k + at the entry level?
stray flare
looks like im all in quant trading lol software engineering entry is way more less than that
I was trying to learn C++
maybe it was a good decision
wraith wolf
Software entry comp can also very easily be north of 200k in quant finance
stray flare
in quant finance 😉 not just some other normal jobs
so does it have any age limits in quant finance?
cuz most of the videos on youtube shows college dudes
mellow aurora
No, swe can go north of 200k in any big tech
ocean gazelle
in quant finance 😉 not just some other normal jobs
there’s many tech companies that pay $200k+ entry level
mellow aurora
I know someone at facebook making 500k
ocean gazelle
I know someone at facebook making 500k
L4?
mellow aurora
Idk, he did swe and rose to managing his own small office
stray flare
thats cool yeah at fang you get paid alot but it would be hard to get there
mellow aurora
You think quant is easier than faang?
stray flare
nope
mellow aurora
I have bad news for you
stray flare
I have alot of time now im 20 now
I know python AI starting rl too
rl (reinforcement learning) and maybe go deeper and learn deep reinforcement learning
and I am learning blockchain
btw C++ would not do any difficulities since i am learning react, too
everything is useful to learn thats what I have in my head
I learn what interests me and love doing it
upbeat forum
looks like im all in quant trading lol software engineering entry is way more le...
Beware that it’s very hard to break into
You can make 7 figures with only a few yoe though
upbeat forum
You definitely know more than me about the quant field but don’t some of the top firms?
Obviously not every firm though
A non-insignificant amount
lost leaf
isnt it higher now
upbeat forum
Interesting
lost leaf
just inherit a ranch or something
lost leaf
I love META Mark Zuckerberg is the greatest innovator of our time
lyric loom
I love META Mark Zuckerberg is the greatest innovator of our time
lost leaf
where is my FAIR offer zark berg 
lyric loom
ZARG BERG
plush trout
dim spade
does the akuna 201 course vidcruiter include mental math and sequences?
timid talon
Akuna NG Python role
glossy terrace
amber yacht
Isn’t this a lc question lol
Wtf
Rope
How many questions in how much time for cit
stiff girder
oa right??
and i got recursion depth exceeded lol
For anybody tryna get Faang, I can provide resume review services for $200...time to compete with @rose holly
word on the street is i reviewed ur resume for you
wintry tendon
wait lol are u allowed to just use lrucache on oas
or is that banned
or just like cache
stiff girder
for phone rounds there is no wayy we get a tree question right??
like how does one create test cases for that??
hexed rock
Ofast for more fun
wintry tendon
lol i think 38
candid pier
Oh yeah I just saw
They pay a shit ton for swe tho
Nah they have separate for swe
Prorated for 150k
Would u take faang+ or millennium
Thet provide housing afaik
wintry tendon
miami is kinda cool
lost leaf
ieee is mid go for top ml conferences
also keep in mind the review and acceptance process will often take many months
even longer for ieee
also keep in mind you can always get rejected and you have to revise paper + resubmit. that delays even more, expect it to happen if your project isnt a banger
it doesnt mean the project is bad it just means you may have presented it poorly in the paper/didnt have good enough testing/comparisons
quasi orbit
candid pier
I mean for full time
fiery brook
best teams at desco?
amber yacht
It’s full
bitter field
Hey Guys. I have a question. I'm an aspiring quant, and I actually just got an offer to join a big bank as a quant startegist for a trading desk. I however have the goal to in the future to transition to the buy side. I'm planning my last year of school and I can either take (1)Number theory + Real Analysis or (2)Differential equations + math modelling. Which combo would you guys recomend? I thought combo 1 would be better because it would give me a strong mathematical background even if its not applied the combo 2. Any inputs and/or help?
restive nymph
Hey Guys. I have a question. I'm an aspiring quant, and I actually just got an o...
Id recommend taking analysis just because its awesome to learn why calculus works (first year analysis) and studying rough things and infinite dimensional linear algebra (measure theory + functional analysis) however none of it will help with finance.
Analysis is beautiful but I don't think that its useful even for other areas of math. It's mainly just there to teach undnergrads/early grad students how to think rigorosly, and then the PDE people need it to show existece and uniquness
All that math you listed is for deep applications to physics/for pure math reasons so it wouldn't help much there besides giving you some clout to people who haven't studied those things
Differential equations is pretty useless too outside of physics/eng courses its just a bag of tricks to solve ODEs but in practice most ODEs don't have closed form solutions and people use numerical methods anyways.
restive nymph
I took 6 analysis courses in my life all the way up through graduate level and I had an amazing time studying it but i can confidently say that it didn't matter ~even for its applications in probabilitiy~ except for now I know about some topological vector spaces, cauchy sequences, and sigma algebras and am good at fixing epsilons > 0
fiery brook
like the ones that print money
sage adder
dm for an optiver referral
livid wedge
wb swe
restive nymph
The measure theoretic probability is really like pedantic formalism for edge cases that’s over emphasized to construct a non measurable function you need to invoke the axiom of choice so it doesn’t actually matter
The only time I know that you need measure theory in ml is in optimal transport but that’s a verrry niche thing and most people I know who study it didn’t take measure theory and they are doing that research in stats or comp
All measure theory does is tell you when you have a density (radon nikodym theorem) and give you the existence of conditional expectation for an arbitrary L1 function
upbeat forum
When the IMC trading OA has typos in multiple problems that make them impossible to solve....
dim walrus
When the IMC trading OA has typos in multiple problems that make them impossible...
swe?
i didn't notice tbf
summer stratus
When the IMC trading OA has typos in multiple problems that make them impossible...
dm
amber yacht
Anyone get walmart quant oa?
ocean gazelle
When the IMC trading OA has typos in multiple problems that make them impossible...
The akuna OA had namespace syntax issues lol
for c++
chilly dagger
Hey yall I need some help choosing between a SWE and QR internship offer at a trading firm.
I’m more confident about my ability to succeed as a SWE (thus probably having a higher chance of a full-time return offer). At the same time, QR seems more interesting and I think it would be cool to try it out (but I probably have a lower chance of a return offer). Also, QR pays better than SWE for full-time.
In general, how much lower is the TC for SWE? Do people think it’s worth the risk to take the QR internship offer?
rose holly
QR
jaunty escarp
Hey yall I need some help choosing between a SWE and QR internship offer at a tr...
quant firms tend to hire new grads and interns more
so odds of success is higher
you already can get a SWE role in another place or some other time
but a quant role might not come easy
what type of quant role is this? there are various roles like risk, trading, research, etc
winged aurora
cubsit systematic is trash for new grads
tc is mad low
120k USD
cant nego
will reject u up front if u try to nego w them
lmao
tulip sapphire
Hey yall I need some help choosing between a SWE and QR internship offer at a tr...
This doesn’t sound right, QR anywhere should make more than SWE in 99% of places even for intern
is the pay difference unclear even at the intern level?
But yeah I’d choose qr either way
It’s probs 2sig if u already have an offer then
tulip sapphire
and this is for QR role
Do they sponsor?
Seems normal if so, this is probably to snatch h1b people from tsinghua/Peking/IIT
And those people are regularly paid much less than US counterparts for the same job since they have to pay for sponsorship ime
winged aurora
considering that cubist is big and under point72
is quite little ngl
cuz a lot of smaller boutique trading mavens wll pay more than that
even for junior
cyan shoal
120k USD
Yea this is not true. The base for systematic dev is 240-300k for just base
Not sure what your talking about
winged aurora
bro which region u at
why will the new grad junior role pay deviates so much
i am talking about junior quant researcher
this one
but in APAC region
cyan shoal
but in APAC region
Yea probably cause your in apac
In nyc it’s 240-300k
Lemme send the position
Even academy is higher nowadays
More around 180k
Have a friend in it
Sorry it’s 250-300k base
tulip sapphire
Yep
ocean gazelle
Anyone done Akuna C++ OA 2?
lost leaf
soon you'll look just like me when you also lose the last strands of your hair
🤝
cope harder
see you at baldcon
hes lying
he got that lightbulb head fr fr 🔥
rose holly
Pls expose
rose holly
.
tranquil nova
Hows the drw C++ phone?
proven steeple
Return offers come out this week?
tulip sapphire
Return offers come out this week?
I was told I’ll get numbers on Labor Day
Idk about other firms
sleek herald
cubsit systematic is trash for new grads
Why is intern base so high
It’s like 240-300
tulip sapphire
It’s like 240-300
That’s only for one pod
It’s a pod shop and one of the top pods (kepl) in the closest role to the alpha will ofc pay more
I think it’s higher ev to take cubist Kepl over say jump qr
twin cloud
they sponsor
amber yacht
rope
solar axle
Within three years, the best quantitative traders at Jane Street might take home eight figures.
stiff girder
Within three years, the best quantitative traders at Jane Street might take home...
actually??
rose holly
lol
Within three weeks, the best quantitative traders at Capital One might take home ten figures.
azure zenith
btw
Supposedly IMC has issued a profit share warning
Let go 1/3 of their grad intake on last day
amber yacht
Within three years, the best quantitative traders at Jane Street might take home eight figures.
vernal talon
which firms blacklist for failing an interview?
amber yacht
all of them 
slow orchid
all of them <:sadge:747169038911930418>
Neit. Got js interview twice
hallow shoal
Supposedly IMC has issued a profit share warning
wait what happened here? I know IMC gets rid of 1/3 of their new grads, but what do you mean by profit share warning
azure zenith
I imagine that means a warning for people with their salary based on the profit share that the profit isn't that great, hence dip in salary
oblique orbit
Yikes
drifting granite
I recall having a conversation with this trader (anonymous for obvious reasons) just a few days ago.
"So, you're really leaving Jane Street?" I asked, still in disbelief.
"Yep, I'm going to Belvedere Trading," he replied.
"But...but...you're one of their best traders! How could they let you go?"
"It's simple, really. Belvedere Trading offered to triple my salary, and I couldn't refuse."
"I don't know if I believe you," I said. "Jane Street is one of the best firms out there. They're not going to let their top trader leave without a fight."
"You're wrong," he said, confidently. "Jane Street is on its way down. Belvedere is the future. In five years time, they're going to be the biggest player in quant."
I was skeptical, but I had to admit, he sounded convincing
uncut steeple
think my old internship boss is a billionaire now
he sold the company to bx for >5b
what do you think the equity splits looked like
it's a RE fund; they fundraised a few times from bx, goldman, citi, then got bought out
2 founders
odd spear
Neit. Got js interview twice
How long apart were ur interviews
tulip sapphire
probably sub faang right
Yep
rose holly
Praxis collection every single interview
rose holly
There’s no way u got a phone lol
He has two sigma and Jane street
tulip sapphire
They only take private school people except v few cases if people have prior trading experience which afaik u probs don’t have?
rose holly
He does
tulip sapphire
No one from his school has those exact two lol
rose holly
He does
tulip sapphire
Front office roles?
rose holly
That’s cool but do you have 5 rings?
tulip sapphire
Yes I have 6
rose holly
Goldman Sachs has no prestige
That sucks he’s the president of a no prestige company
Yes
rose holly
That’s the Goldman Sachs to you.
My dad is president of platinuman ballsachs, more prestige than Goldman sachs because platinum > gold
tulip sapphire
My dad is president of platinuman ballsachs, more prestige than Goldman sachs be...
*The Goldman Sachs
U can apply to their dinner??
autumn aspen
they had one about 2 weeks ago
rose holly
🗿
tulip sapphire
How do y’all hear about this
Everyone Ik from my school has got interviews, I haven’t applied yet
low vault
5 dogs
tulip sapphire
We don’t get info sessions from them afaik
Swe??
Wait I may have been thinking of Valkyrie nvm
round portal
anyone know what kinda stuff they ask on the drw zoom
autumn aspen
one of hypsm
i dont think they started sending out interview requests for qt yet
qt
rose holly
@forest cobalt what was cubist kepl offer if u don't mind sharing
potent iron
Anyone giving out IMC referrals?
rose holly
For DRW, I applied to both dev and trader. The OA I received says it will start as soon as I click the link (lmfao). I assume this is the trader OA, not the dev OA? Doesn’t say in the email
rose holly
Anyone taken the DRW proveit?
rose holly
yeah
boreal tartan
6 math problems
rose holly
probability brain teaser based or mental math ?
boreal tartan
just prob&stat
boreal tartan
i guess so?
rose holly
sounds good
anyone gotten round 2 akuna trader OA? Just got it this morning
drw or Akuna?
boreal tartan
drw
lost leaf
everything's full <:sadge:747169038911930418>
make some space then
amber yacht
@wild breach how do u know johnny
wild breach
<@107860014311419904> how do u know johnny
ni?
amber yacht
ye
wild breach
he took some classes at my school when he was in high school
amber yacht
dope
hexed rock
rope
amber yacht
cope
rose holly
hope
potent iron
Anyone giving Belvedere referrals?
clear grove
how do u know everyone @pure hamlet
amber yacht
@clear grove ayo how do you know ilaria
amber yacht
friends
clear grove
magic
amber yacht
ok
amber yacht
ye
amber yacht
<@287732094233477120> does ur last name start w z
bro what
how do you know who I am
unless you asked ilaria
clear grove
how do you know who I am
unless you asked ilaria
i didnt
rugged rampart
i went to school
Impressive
silent harbor
Hey! Wanted some feedback on Resume. Applying to Quant Trading summer analyst internships for Summer of 24
cinder vortex
projects look light but some good stuff it seems like
nova quest
hey guys, is transitioning from cs ungrad to math/physics grad school a sane thing to do?
anyone here who went to grad school for math/physics?
grizzled osprey
how fast does cit get back to you after onsite?
hexed rock
<@368208407335010305> ayo how do you know ilaria
@amber yacht ayo how do you know harrison
low vault
Uhhh havent really followed up yet cos phone itnerviewer said 2-3skz
Wks
I interviewed on 25th july
twin cloud
how fast does cit get back to you after onsite?
1-2 weeks
low vault
Did tjey also take couple weeks 
amber yacht
Ngmi
low vault
Ye
O i c
Im not proc for many places :-(
Wait r u swe or qr
My other procs are strickly worse than shaw so uhh shrugs
Mmmm icic
ocean gazelle
anyone know what SWE cit on-site is like
ah ok
is it just combo of LC and system design?
and some systems trivia
I had no systems trivia in my phone somehow
grizzled osprey
is it just combo of LC and system design?
dm
silent harbor
Good question. I wanted to know about this too
amber yacht
Ngmi
tulip sapphire
Or leetcode school
Is this inaccurate?
amber yacht
Is this inaccurate?
Prob not
amber yacht
rope
twin cloud
have u heard back this szn?
dm me
grizzled osprey
can I dm you about cit final
sure
plucky gate
amber yacht
Citadel Dev OA so much harder this year
What’s format like
stiff girder
can I dm you about cit final
yoo i dmed u
cyan shoal
Was way easier last year 😭
changes bro
everyone ik had a way easier one this year
than last year
its pretty much rng to the questions u get one u open the hackerrank
rose holly
😔
fringe spade
has anyone gotten asked to do another interview (45-mins, not onsite) after doing their first technical round with citadel? This is for swe btw
Does the interview format change at all or is it the same (resume questions + leetcode)?
tulip sapphire
How so?
Rly? I think they r making everyone do that this yr
For swe intern at least
stiff girder
naa idts
tulip sapphire
Does the interview format change at all or is it the same (resume questions + le...
Same
stiff girder
everyone moved straight to onsite
stiff girder
For this yr??
for this year mostly everyone moved straight but if ur on the edge you have to do one more
tulip sapphire
for this year mostly everyone moved straight but if ur on the edge you have to d...
Ik people who had to do 3 phones even
tulip sapphire
Did u followup
neat junco
Yes they said still need time to decide offer
Even curious whether they sent a single offer
tulip sapphire
Did u get offer last yr/prev quant experience?
tulip sapphire
Maybe it’s just school then if not prev quant experience? The smartest dude ik got a 2 phones then final and he said he aced his 1st phone and the followups but he goes to a not usually considered top school
Ru like hypsm+Cal/CMU/UIUC/gtech/Umich/uchi/ucla/ivy
If not then idk I guess it was rly performance diff or rng
clear grove
did u get ur team @ R
if you join research you can work on my shitty cpp code
there are two undergrad interns
stiff girder
he got an offer lmao
stiff girder
Did you also interview with them
^^
tulip sapphire
Ok agreed xd
stiff girder
lmfao
rose holly
💀
stiff girder
reverie is a god he rejecting citadel
rose holly
Reverie told me in dms he’s RENEGING citadel
sharp gyro
I was wondering if I could get some help on preparing for swe roles at quant firms
neat junco
he got an offer lmao
Oh for ft or intern
stiff girder
intern
neat junco
🐐
stiff girder
yoo shut up ur cracked also
amber yacht
@thorn wyvern can you order a salad bro
left sentinel
How long after phone round did people hear back for DRW?
hexed rock
yo goose can you tell them about your OS
amber yacht
Yeah bro
pseudo marten
How long after phone round did people hear back for DRW?
Seems like it varies, I haven't heard back yet even though I interviewed fairly early
amber yacht
I’m ngmi
rose holly
Chiraq Gupta from Diary of Wimpy Kid?
pseudo marten
do you know if ppl heard back at the same time?
rose holly
Ur rejected
pseudo marten
Ur rejected
I haven't gotten a rejection either
amber yacht
Me
hexed rock
true you're short just like him
candid root
If anyone wants IMC referral feel free to DM!
rose holly
If anyone wants IMC referral feel free to DM!
plz
upbeat forum
🧢
I see nice
slipped disc
road to 315 bench 🙏
thats a nice squat if ur 160
get ur weight up frfr
bulk to 170
creatine does the trick
gain like 5 poudns from water retention 💀
no
amber yacht
I think the rope would break bro
upbeat forum
damn
fast walrus
anyone done omc for swe? pm me if yes
lost leaf
dang college board eating good
remote moss
has anyone gotten asked to do another interview (45-mins, not onsite) after doin...
how did you do on the first round?
thin tide
what is going on at Jane Street
amber yacht
quant traders are infertile
thin tide
quant traders are infertile
or is it the lack of pussy 😂 because if so i shouldn’t be talking 😭
lethal cape
sand willow
😭
lyric loom
sand willow
lmao
broken thorn
what is going on at Jane Street
egg freezing maybe
thorny gate
i think OMC interviewer left after i was 5 minutes late
i thought it was a phone call but its was a microsoft teams
tulip sapphire
Yeah especially more academic places
It also shows content mastery if u TA
Wtf my uni pays 10x that 
I’m p sure my TC for TAing is >$60/hr but idk how much I get exactly
sinful kernel
wait nahh both these crazy 💀
60 an hr for TA??
forget SWE bruh just become a full time ta
fringe spade
how did you do on the first round?
I genuinely thought I nailed it. Interviewer seemed to like me and was very interested in my internship experience and I was able to solve the coding question and all his follow-ups
tulip sapphire
60 an hr for TA??
Ok I just checked and it’s $58/hr
sinful kernel
what school u be going to bruh
tulip sapphire
what school u be going to bruh
T4 CS school
sinful kernel
crazyyyy
tulip sapphire
We have a union
sinful kernel
im transfering to berk
tulip sapphire
And I think berk > cmu
sinful kernel
fuck my school rn
fringe spade
nah its io
sinful kernel
hows the housing tho 😆
tulip sapphire
hows the housing tho 😆
I pay 750/month
sinful kernel
how many roommates
tulip sapphire
But I share a room with a roommate
sinful kernel
u got a bed?
or are u sleeping on tiles floor
fuck bro i aint realize Berk like that w the TA pay
sheeeesh
tulip sapphire
LMAOOO I have a twin-size bed
sinful kernel
is this for all TA positions
or just CS
i be staying past OH too to help mfs and i dont get paid for that
tulip sapphire
Uh just EE/CS/Statistics/DS I think
sinful kernel
is this why ur CS program is going broke
i thought i went to a liberal school too bruh in a liberal city and state with HIGH min wage
but nah bruh they paying me peanuts compared to yall
big ass endowment too what that money goint to 🤨
nah fr
i feel hella bad tho
they got a whole ass line of desperate ass mfs
maybe i should start charging for fast passes
60/hr here i come
target the trust fund babies -- dynamically priced model based on ur fin aid percentage 💀
tulip sapphire
Levels double counts, I was clear this was TC and not base
Also like u still get paid bonus so imo putting everything as how much u get for the summer total makes more sense
That way u weed out cutler for being the low payer they r
💀💀
sand willow
we get stake in our school if you TA vested over four years
base is low but the tc skyrockets 📈
tulip sapphire
Oh ya we have retirement and stuff like that asw but it takes years to vest so I’m not counting that
sand willow
yall dont get a pension?
tulip sapphire
I’m only counting what I see in my bank accnt
tulip sapphire
if yall think this is crazy wait until you see what the union demanded originally
queen sorrel
$58/hr?????
tulip sapphire
like wages were supposed to increase to $71/hr for next year or $74/hr if head TA
but instead they didnt even increase enough to match inflation
tulip sapphire
Stanford>pton
nah Stanford is blacklisted from Radix just like Yale
and like people who studied at both say the TAs are way more competent at berkeley than stanford
tulip sapphire
ironically the original demands was 56/hr base + tuition paid back to you with taxes + benefits, but instead it ended up being basically 56/hr for base+tuition remission (and ofc benefits are not counted there) like https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/ys6uy4/comment/ivzwg04/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
and this is why you go on strike
tulip sapphire
I thought it was just general CS
i mean TAs/teaching quality should be primary factors in a general CS tier list?
queen sorrel
Fair
tulip sapphire
and having more people increases the probability youll have someone cracked to no-life piazza/edstem and explain it in a rlly good way
my TAs have ranged from people who created the NERF paper for graphics, to the person who made GeLU for deep learning and i think you just learn better + pay more attention when you have the person who invented the thingy + does research in the subject + got an A+ in the class the previous semester teaching you
i wanna go to grad school but i lwk dont think there are as much resources in a smaller school so im on the fence, i think RO tc will decide it for me
what i find amazing is that most resources here are underutilized. Outside of coding classes like OS/comparch which have hard projects, OH are always empty
even OS OH are empty if nothing is due that day
wait like why dont you just privately tutor on the side?
starting at 40/hr
i charged like 80/hr or sth freshman year with no credentials other than good grade in the class
and i had so many intl ppl come to me cuz they have so much $$ and think that im good since i charge a lot
ya i stopped privately tutoring cuz i felt rly bad abt how much they were paying me for value added to their edu, i was 100% scamming them 💀
like for discrete math & prob theory i would just be in a zoom with them as they read the notes out loud
and i was like just afk on discord/doing other work while getting paid
ya ez way to get research
for my statistical forecasting class i got a TA offer and research just from attending OH
and i was the only one in OH everytime i went
queen sorrel
I have a discounted service for that
amber yacht
Stanford is rng
tulip sapphire
ya ive seen people in upperdiv ML not be able to tell the diff between polynomial and exponential growth rates 💀
this^ was sent in the slack for a class I TA'd lsat year
their rsh is amazing
alpine scaffold
Hey, does anyone have tips for Headlands Tech phone screen?
tulip sapphire
nah we have like a concurrent enrollment for high schoolers or sth
so like my roommate had taken intro to programming (functional+oop+declarative), data structures, computer architecture, computer security all before he started here
it's literally bcuz of Jo Boaler
yeah like it's already so dumbed down
imagine graudating high school w/o knowing calculus
ur just like behind for life
even if u grind it's nigh impossible to make it
harvard is probably the best school to go to overall tho tbh, TA pay, tuition cost, etc all dont matter when u have that lvl of brand name
*going to harvard and only taking cs courses at mit
i think 7 fields medalists signed https://sites.google.com/view/k12mathmatters/home asking Jo Boaler to not ban Accelerated Math programs in CA
Jo Boaler keeps on pushing for non-algebra-based Data Science to be a req while Jelani Nelson pushes for algebra/calculus-based Data Science to be a req
very interesting debate until the racial accusations
California Mathematics Framework
lost leaf
very interesting debate until the racial accusations
brown students???????????? has she never seen a fucking stem classroom?????? half the kids are brown 😭
amber yacht
I think 11th graders should learn alg top
tulip sapphire
brown students???????????? has she never seen a fucking stem classroom?????? hal...
probs means latinx
also lmfao at how they capitalize black but not brown
lost leaf
im reading this one patch post and i dont see anything concrete on what she actually wants to do
just some non algebra DS course? it doesnt say anything about cutting out calc
amber yacht
It’s meant to be alternative to calc I think
tulip sapphire
iirc she wanted to cut out algebra from middle school and move it to high school, there r lots of twitter/reddit/yt stuff flaming her
tulip sapphire
and like time-wise if u cut out algebra, you just cant ALSO do alg2, geom, pre-calc/trig, and then ap calc ab in time since ur 4 yrs r alr over
lost leaf
according to her own source most people manage to do algebra just fine anyways
tulip sapphire
what would they teach in middle school then
Qualitative data science or sth
non-quantitative social stuff
lost leaf
whats the point in cutting it out
lost leaf
non-quantitative social stuff
non quantitative
math
i see why people are clowning her
stanford has been taking so many Ls lately holy shit
amber yacht
Promotes equality by making everyone equally dogshit
lost leaf
this stupid math stuff and then the president that faked a paper
thin tide
whats the point in cutting it out
making room for gender studies
lost leaf
what are they even doing there 😭
lost leaf
fuck man now i wanna clown on her too
tulip sapphire
honestly kinda a pattern with stanford people \s (this is a joke abt the ex-president)
lost leaf
stanford is such an L school
lost leaf
(i go to the university of shittingon liberal arts school of cope)
lost leaf
and yet we all got rejected from it xd
i didnt apply anywhere other than my current school
tulip sapphire
their stats/ML/cv depts are constantly churning Ws especially in big conferences
and like they publish sota work so it's def not fraudulent like the bio shit is
tho alpaca (https://gizmodo.com/stanford-ai-alpaca-llama-facebook-taken-down-chatgpt-1850247570) is kinda mid tbh
lost leaf
and like they publish sota work so it's def not fraudulent like the bio shit is
i mean most bio shit is fraudulent
its impossible to replicate half of these papers because they either leave out data or dont release datasets or code for the bio ml papers
tulip sapphire
i mean most bio shit is fraudulent
i mean u can say everything in this industry is securities fraud
🤷♂️
#quants-n-traders moment
tulip sapphire
its impossible to replicate half of these papers because they either leave out d...
me when i did deep RL bs
lost leaf
last year i caught one paper that literally did not have a test or validation set after i e-mailed them for their results
for some MRI artifact fixing paper
lost leaf
me when i did deep RL bs
what kind of deep rl paper was it
were u just training atari or were u actually doing something
that statement is insanely broad
tulip sapphire
were u just training atari or were u actually doing something
latter
tulip sapphire
uh i dont wanna dox i can dm u the paper later
lost leaf
uh i dont wanna dox i can dm u the paper later
ok
thin tide
https://archive.is/p2YHV
it just loops LOL
tulip sapphire
it just loops LOL
use VPN
u must be on public unsecured wifi network
or use archive.org on the link LOL
amber yacht
thin tide
girl wants to be a trader but doesn't want to put in the work 🤦🏽
thin tide
chat how often does quant use python
i would assume very regularly with large ML models and data
amber yacht
Qt makes algos in python I think
thin tide
Qt makes algos in python I think
oh thank god im not completely wasting my time
interesting
but what about actual stats
i dont think u can really run statistical tests in js
rugged rampart
uh i dont wanna dox i can dm u the paper later
Can I dm
amber yacht
He wants to make a market
low vault
i think 7 fields medalists signed https://sites.google.com/view/k12mathmatters/h...
ppl do private tutoring bc in-school math education is abysmal 🤣
that is why china takes rank 1-6 IMO and rank 1-4 IOI this year (not actually the exact reason but NA math education sucks)
hmm
i mean here in canada theres some stuff that lets you study extra without much cost
like IB
IB HL stuff actually looks like
not braindead
thin tide
what's canada? you meant the 51st state?
tulip sapphire
https://blog.evanchen.cc/2016/05/27/fill-in-the-blank/
i scrolled down and the first comment was by jsteinhardt 💀 💀 💀 💀
that's insane
it seems like his berkeley profs still keep in touch with him
and read his blog
and comment
low vault
Evan chen is a legend ong
hexed rock
did you know cleo allegedly has a twitter now
some crypto shill account
most likely i think they just trolled posting the questions themselves and then "solved" them later
take some expression, do some weird transformations on it, post on stack exchange
🤷♂️ idk
amber yacht
6.046
gaps
i think it was 181 being skipped over
(it still sucks)
don't you need 181 for comp and world
unless you take 175 or smt
yeah but those are worse than 181
o
amber yacht
how much did js pay you to say this
hexed rock
idk
this is just rumors
i thought cleo had 0 info about her besides her bio on stack exchange
hexed rock
you have no idea bro
amber yacht
i still dont know if i want to do 153 or 165
data systems
no you should make MERN stack spotify clone instead
hexed rock
do crud calculator app
amber yacht
is MITs nontrivial
hexed rock
yes
amber yacht
i might take that one in spring
hexed rock
gl bc im not carrying you that time
amber yacht
he goes to wellesley
lyric loom
Praxis is valedictorian at umass boston
thorny gate
is it better to do a DP problem with top down or bottom up if you are comfortable in both
in my experience when you do top down they ask to do bottom up as a follow up but if you just do bottom up they dont follow up with top down
top down seems safer in interview setting just to get a working solution
tulip sapphire
Literally almost every relevant CS school I can think of has an ocaml class
CS442/662 at wloo
CS164 at Berkeley
CS3110 at Cornell
CS1260 at Brown
Etc
If anything Cornell would be a bigger ocaml influencer than Harvard
But I guess Cornell doesn’t feed to JS
MIT and Berkeley are the 2 biggest JS feeders, does MIT have an ocaml class 👀
I mean they have SICP which is close enough
tulip sapphire
Nothing wrong with that I’m p sure Cal copied CMU’s graphics class
As long as they can teach it well ic no issue
I wanna copy ur success with google
fringe spade
has anyone taken SIG's pre-screen Codesignal for swe internship? How hard is it?
sudden sonnet
do headhunters usually reach out through LinkedIn or email
hm yeah most I’ve got are linkedin but got a random email from some smaller recruitment agency thing and was just wondering if legit
wintry tendon
Cambridge/Penn have required ocaml too
those schools do intro cs in ocaml
thats a him problem if you dont wanna learn new things then idk
its a good thing since it levels the playing field
boreal tartan
has anyone done IMC oa 
late bear
wintry tendon
trading isnt that bad its just poorly written
boreal tartan
submitted js last night, got rejection this morning lol
fringe spade
wondering the same thing. Does anyone know if it's just like a standard hackerrank/codesignal?
cyan shoal
Why’s everyone panicking abt the Imc qt it was pretty easy/chill
upbeat forum
Why’s everyone panicking abt the Imc qt it was pretty easy/chill
Typos
cyan shoal
dm me which ones cause i have it and all the pictures of which questions
and i dont remember getting any
lyric loom
Gm @amber yacht
hexed rock
Gm @amber yacht
stark juniper
Gm @amber yacht
brisk trellis
does renaissance hire only phds or do they also hire people with experience from other firms
boreal tartan
damn
brisk trellis
damn
cyan shoal
Just got old mission Swe interview
Does anyone know the process?
Seems like first phone is behavioral
brave vessel
Is there a roadmap u guys recommend for this?
wide depot
low vault
Speaking of upenn, my upenn interviewer was a wloo alum 🤣
Another guy ik
His MIT interviewer is a current prof here
Im taking his course next term lol
Jao
Co250
I also did math145 w him in 1a
Sjiefisjwj it conflkcts with my OS lolol
Also 255 kinda scares me
Ngl
also gf says i shoupdnt
Gg
Im like 1.5 off aime type beat
????
Wat
I only grinded cp
Xd
Was too late when i decided math was fun
So i never grinded conest math
:-)
Never made aime
Uhh nrly
Just combo
I got gapped by like 4 geo probs
I also never actually practiced math
If i remember to register
Idk if ill beat my 1st yr rssult tho, got lucky :-)
Yeah i find them pretty fun
It fun :-)
I mean as long as u have t500 thafs a resume point
I just guessed b1 soln and it worked 
Wait bruh no way
I had 19
Which bracket were u :V
Ill prob get smoked this yr tho, havent done math in forever
I was doing 145+147 at that time so even tho i wad sleep deprived+too hungry to concentrate i still did ok
Im pretty sure i was peak cp in 1a lol
Ive regressed
Too busy/tired ig
Took up singing which takes nontrivial time
lyric loom
low vault
👀
neat junco
That tower oa was fucking hard
15 qs in an hour
With 3 coding qs that require you to do io yourself
😢
Absolutely threw it
rose holly
Got the vidcruiter interview for akuna trading, has anyone taken it?