i heard yugabyte take wt3 tho 😩
#quants-n-traders
night topaz
obsidian flare
uoft
low vault
Lol nah we dk yet
References stage 😭
I might do a winternship tho so it would be wt4
If
I get it
if i get it!!!
tulip sapphire
Teach me how to be quant 🥺🥺
grand crater
add me plz
grand crater
add me plz
want to feel terrible about my lack of progress 🙂
tulip sapphire
Me2 pls add owo uwu I’m a pre frosh as well
rose holly
Can you give me referral to desco?
tulip sapphire
rose holly
DE. Shaw & Cooperation
tulip sapphire
What firm
low vault
Snowflake Capital LLC duh
tulip sapphire
Snowflake Capital LLC duh
Sounds fake
Buy low, sell high, take more risk than u currently are
Never heard of that either
main totem
anyone interview w bank of america?
lost leaf
bofa deez qrs
rose holly
Indeed.
broken thorn
radix simp made it?
he works for radix now??? @quiet meadow
or patronus capital/bowrboerl
do u know ehich place he got into though
the good ending
holy shit u think any recruiters saw this server
thats dormammu level dedication for multiple years
id strong hire him
if any recruiters reading this my lab group is gonna work with quantum machine learning within the year
🥺
gozer works for radix too?
congrats gozer!!!
damn i rly gotta start applying
is it too late to apply yet?
lost current
@analog stratus got tgs
dm him for a referral
low vault
Sounds fake
its just funny cos you said firm
https://www.snowflake.com/en/ this is snowflake lol
fair fjord
add me
tulip sapphire
<@426158103654825984> got tgs
dm him for a referral
I thought he was one of the 12 tower interns this summer
Or is this wrong dude
hushed pulsar
anyone know about topics for DRW qt intern first phone round?
upbeat forum
Does anyone have resources or practice problems for trader technical interviews? The ones that are betting games
I’m trying to get an internship I’m not ft
😞
Fixed it
lost leaf
ur not an intern at any company with science in its name you sellout
upbeat forum
But seriously I’d appreciate any resources
lost leaf
see u in court (radix lobby)
upbeat forum
Yeah maybe not resources but practice problems
lost leaf
THANK GOD
upbeat forum
It’s the second round so I already did one betting game but I could use more practice
Optiver
rose holly
!process ted kaczynski
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drowsy grove
!offer sam bankman freud
lost leaf
no shot its actually 35 LMAO
what about qj
how are they paying less than every swe internship on earth for a qr internship
next shore
has anyone finished it?
shell gazelle
How did you apply to Millennium? It says to apply via Handshake on their website, but there are no jobs listed on Handshake
ocean gazelle
my understanding is ur just hiding ur quantity at no loss right?
uneven needle
anyone apply to optiver trader intern?
bitter ember
has anyone gotten citadel phone for ng? interviewed last year but havent heard back after oa
grizzled cipher
has anyone done the Optiver Optinomicon technical interview for quant trading intern? what is it like
tulip sapphire
Intern or ng
lyric loom
tulip sapphire
Wait lwk I’m also interested in what they ask if they pay that little
LMAOOO
That sounds somewhat legit
How long is it
Qr had no oa
I don’t think they r qr
bitter ember
ooh gotcha thanks for letting me know, and yeah im swe 😅 forgot to mention that
winged aurora
Anyone heard of how it's like at Marshall wace
tulip sapphire
gl!
ocean gazelle
anyone got exp w matching engines? building out a simple simulator and need some advice
lmk
potent iron
Anyone here go to Vanderbilt?
obsidian flare
nah it doesnt sound stupid
your school has a rich history and prestige thus you feel connected naturally.
rugged rampart
@split dirge
oblique orbit
Is SIG oa Auto or not
split dirge
stfu
vernal hornet
this will sound stupid
but raytheon's culture and mission really speak to me
lyric loom
vale wave
making aircrafts and shit?
ocean gazelle
making aircrafts and shit?
nah bombing ppl
opaque sable
this will sound stupid
but raytheon's culture and mission really speak to me
real ones know the original
bitter ember
anyone know what drw phone for ng swe is like?
robust totem
it's auto
ocean gazelle
didn’t someone have cit af1s
plucky gate
tired yacht
elder dawn
citadels logo looks like Lebrons
tired yacht
queen sorrel
I’ll delete it
winged dove
My bad
queen sorrel
I was replying to someone else’s scam
queen sorrel
No problem
tired yacht
@marsh flower wait your at Jane street?
Can I DM?
If I suck your cock can I get a referral?
What are the biggest idol companies in japan
I wonder if they hire SWE roles
I'd definetly build a react page for them
hard holly
YAHKUNA
bitter ember
what does this mean lol
no lol
i havent had any trading internships
i did interview for optiver swe if thats what youre thinking of
oh LMAO
azure zenith
my friend talk to your friends talk to me
what is going on here
My mum is Jane
My dad is Street
neon cobalt
What are you talking about
empty osprey
for quant dev/swe interviews, when people say they ask systems questions, do they mean low-level systems stuff or system design
ocean gazelle
for quant dev/swe interviews, when people say they ask systems questions, do the...
if someone says “systems questions” they refer to comp arch, but in general, some places do ask system design + systems questions
azure zenith
for quant dev/swe interviews, when people say they ask systems questions, do the...
Both
Often linked
lost current
for quant dev/swe interviews, when people say they ask systems questions, do the...
oh it's general system design, at least at cit they said prep for system design and it ended up being system design in the sense of software
empty osprey
which company
DRW
main totem
which role swe?
empty osprey
Just says Software Developer intern idk
ocean gazelle
oh it's general system design, at least at cit they said prep for system design ...
by sys design in sense of software do u just mean oop design
grand crater
Just a general question: in a NLP PhD in a T20 school, have 3 pubs at top confs. How much chances do I have for passing resume screens in general?
I started grinding Green book and some other books, but I am basically mainly interested in NLP heavy firms like 2s or G research
Tbh biggest struggle rn is forgetting 75% of prob stats and linalg form undergrad
also if anyone could give me pointers to some NLP heavy firms id appreaciate it, I;ve done some research and talked to firms at conferences, but you all probably know more than me
potent iron
Any IMC referrals?
brisk trellis
do graduate degrees matter for quant trading?
do you mean bad as in pay or something else
for research is a masters good enough?
do people who get undergrad internships and a return offer still need a phd for when they need to switch firms
grand crater
Why??
Also why?
So what’s the elite firm nowadays then?
Besides Rentech I guess
brisk trellis
does the math on the job even use graduate level math
whats the difference?
so like the research side are HFs while the market making side are prop firms?
gotcha
rugged rampart
read this as G brain
i was gonna say
gdm = g brain now
all the g brain guys are putting deepmind for affiliation 🤣
rugged rampart
im not disagreeing
tulip sapphire
honestly asking how long a referrer has known the person they r referring is hella smart
i can see desco asking how many times youve met irl
a la how many lines of code youve written
grand crater
😂😂😂
brisk trellis
is it easier to get sell-side quant internships and then get buy-side quant internships or should you just target buy-side positions
tulip sapphire
is it easier to get sell-side quant internships and then get buy-side quant inte...
sell-side r def easier
i mean no one seems bothered by https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jump-trading-made-1-28-233512919.html or the insider trading charges P72 stemmed from SAC
upbeat forum
Does anyone roughly know the acceptance rate for trader internships at companies like Optiver, JS, etc
I imagine they only take ~50 trader interns a year out of what 10,000 apps?
late hedge
Anyone heard of Kronos Research before? Cant find much about their TC / culture / etc
tulip sapphire
I don’t think they r US based
lost stratus
I don’t think they r US based
Yeah theyre taiwan based according to careeers page
I didnt really look into it
tulip sapphire
I didnt really look into it
the thing i dm'd u abt is actually an nyc-based hft firm, even tho their site makes it seem like they arent us-based
they gave me an interview within minutes of applying
carmine temple
Would y’all think uiuc or Cornell would be better for quant/swe
quasi orbit
cornell
carmine temple
I ended up choosing Cornell but idk if it was financially smart looking back
ocean gazelle
what was diff in cost
carmine temple
Around 25k per yr
ocean gazelle
ur oos uiuc?
carmine temple
Ye
ocean gazelle
uiuc oos abt $50k per yr tho?
carmine temple
Yea it’s like 56k
tulip sapphire
Would y’all think uiuc or Cornell would be better for quant/swe
uiuc
ocean gazelle
81 != 100?
tulip sapphire
i mean depends on how good you are
if ur mid then go to cornell
if ur cracked and confident youll be good then go to uiuc
ocean gazelle
if ur cracked and confident youll be good then go to uiuc
u think top 1% uiuc > top 1% Cornell?
tulip sapphire
it's not a skull, it's more like even if ur mid, cornell will make ur mid-ness seem now that bad
ocean gazelle
I think so
tulip sapphire
u think top 1% uiuc > top 1% Cornell?
definitely
but median cornell > median uiuc
ocean gazelle
yeah exactly
carmine temple
definitely
Hmm
ocean gazelle
median uiuc (all majors) is horrid
carmine temple
it's not a skull, it's more like even if ur mid, cornell will make ur mid-ness s...
I see
Median cs Cornell prob better than median uiuc cs
tulip sapphire
yea only if ur set on quant should u go uiuc
ocean gazelle
Median cs Cornell prob better than median uiuc cs
Not prob, it’s def better
unironically top 1% uiuc is better than most top places ik
carmine temple
yea only if ur set on quant should u go uiuc
I sorta am lmfao like quant swe
carmine temple
Top 1% cmu > top 1% mit cs
tulip sapphire
everyone from my high school who went to MIT/Stanford/Berkeley/CMU for CS are now having top outcomes in quant (drw ficc, tgs, tower, etc) or ml phd at one of the others, etc
everyone from my high school who went to UIUC for CS is now doing product manangement cuz they got burned out of coding
ocean gazelle
Idt you can generalize like this
tulip sapphire
ya but u should make sure ur actually top 1%
carmine temple
everyone from my high school who went to MIT/Stanford/Berkeley/CMU for CS are no...
So sounds like uiuc isn’t a good decision?
ocean gazelle
top 1% GaTech def feels worse than top 1% cmu or mit
ocean gazelle
I think the rule only applies to UIUC/Cal
carmine temple
Umich
tulip sapphire
So sounds like uiuc isn’t a good decision?
no these were all 50th%ile people
ocean gazelle
yeah ivies is a more suitable comparison
rugged rampart
i think this only applies to top pubs
carmine temple
no these were all 50th%ile people
I see
ocean gazelle
can’t say private in general tho imo
carmine temple
But yea I feel like goin to uiuc and finding out ur not 1% there would kinda fuck u over too
tulip sapphire
I think the rule only applies to UIUC/Cal
id include umich asw
carmine temple
Berk is filthy good of a school
rugged rampart
berk are same people tho
tulip sapphire
i'd believe it for ASU
tulip sapphire
top 1% at ASU def hard gap 50%ile at ivies
ocean gazelle
unironically gaps everything
rugged rampart
benq
tulip sapphire
Top 1% cmu > top 1% mit cs
i mean top 1% at hypsm is just big tech founders/entrepreneurs? I don’t think that's comparable or rather relevant for quant
ocean gazelle
it’s kids doing ioi since they were 1
carmine temple
i mean top 1% at hypsm is just big tech founders/entrepreneurs? I don’t think th...
I see makes sense
Ivy getting less and less technical kids
So they end up going to state schools
rugged rampart
look at top research output for cs tho
tulip sapphire
almost everything is
carmine temple
But yea, are there any internship postings for 2024 summer?
I’m a rising freshmen
tulip sapphire
or rather it's like the most common distribution that appears
im telling u it's not nepo smh
rugged rampart
@blissful kite look for phd postings
tulip sapphire
ok but if thwy were nepo would they be coding or have access to data
why not just sit em in compliance/HR bs
they get paid min wage
brisk trellis
unironically?
ocean gazelle
if u have exp with building matching engines can u dm me
round portal
anyone try applying to optiver new grad even though you already graduated
white haven
anyone know what arrowstreet's ng swe tc is?
queen sorrel
anyone know what arrowstreet's ng swe tc is?
Use levels.fyi
white haven
i dont trust levels
queen sorrel
I see 400k on there
tulip sapphire
anyone know what arrowstreet's ng swe tc is?
Probably trash wrt that of quant dev. My friend there told me they call the SWEs there IT tech support and that’s their internal listing
You can also just ask HR for a range and they don’t want to waste their time so they should share
brisk trellis
i dont trust levels
why
white haven
why
not enough data for quant places, some ppl dont include bonuses, tc can vary year to year
brisk trellis
kk
white haven
yea they should roughly be accurate if u look at last yrs data
at least for bigger firms not for tiny ones
tulip sapphire
0 offers 
amber yacht
These are strongly correlated
uncut steeple
what's a gf
spare cloud
where are you guys finding open quant positions
uncut steeple
i am looking at indeed.com
stark juniper
where are you guys finding open quant positions
tulip sapphire
how many?
winged aurora
Closest they can be to getting that fulltime job
ocean gazelle
is the arrowstreet aaron wang or someone else
spare rover
Is anyone interviewing for HRT ng already? My hh told me that they asked him to reach back out in a month for ng hiring, which sounded a bit sus to me
sage adder
dm for a referral for optiver
drifting granite
I mean it’s not that surprising to subscribe given economics of quant recruiting
spare rover
oh shit fr? I heard they were having some trouble last year, but I thought it was over—what have you heard?
drifting granite
Last yr was also an easier year to do well on
spare rover
Got it, that makes sense
tulip sapphire
It is really really hard to lose money in this industry if you’re good and know what you’re doing
ocean gazelle
i mean these firms are competing against retail investors
only in certain situations
for examples mms are making free money off of their services
idt hrt does mm tho
i havent looked into them much
his statement is kinda paradoxical
if you were competant you would be making money
tulip sapphire
2 years in a row is 💀though
tulip sapphire
his statement is kinda paradoxical
Wait like this is pretty simple
If ur in this industry, especially hft, then it’s clear that it’s hard to lose money if u don’t have multiple sustained major fuckups
And have good people
They are scheduled for late august
And I’m not at final yet for other places
No idk any cpp
I’m screweed
Ya I have interview tomorrow
What if I graduate in a yr with 0 offers
ocean gazelle
bring up cppcon -> move to next round
unironically op strat
arent they usually sectioned on yt?
i just skip to interesting sections
u put cpp on ur google app right
whatre their cpp teams
like chrome
damn
g so unpredictable
quant interviews are more deterministic imo
other than desco 🖕
hexed rock
c++ weekly is better than cppcon imo
more to the point and more information dense
its on yt
good luck noob
bruh i would kms if i was british
US born and raised
any other country is insta rope
bro how
goose even said im latino
what kind of latino lives in the fuckin UK
not white passing
lmao
oblique orbit
Sig oa was so hard 😂
weary path
i mean these firms are competing against retail investors
i can guarantee you that no HFT is competing against retail. It is almost always a competition between HFTs for retail flow.
drifting granite
It is really really hard to lose money in this industry if you’re good and know ...
Not at all
It’s actually really easy to lose money
Especially in market making
tulip sapphire
Not in hft when ur the fastest and know what you’re doing
It’s easy to lose money occasionally sure
But consistently, no
ocean gazelle
i can guarantee you that no HFT is competing against retail. It is almost always...
yeah I should’ve worded it better
more like MMs are collecting free money off of retail
some MMs at least
frank thorn
Anyone know what the omc call w head of educations is like
Like what the offer rate is
fleet oriole
Anyone know what the omc call w head of educations is like
Dm
left sentinel
Have first round coming up for DRW quant trading intern. Does anyone know what to expect?
lethal cape
Did anyone do the second phone for valk trader Junior derivatives trader
rose holly
Anyone know what the omc call w head of educations is like
Can I DM for OMC?
oblique orbit
I didn’t take it last year, but questions were easy and mostly similar to green book but I’d say they realistically all required ~1:30-2min each and the time pressure was the hard part
rose holly
Questions are like LC easy/medium
Yeah i think its 3 meds in 1 interview
For 3 interviews
The 3 meds built off of one another
Like you’ll get an initial med, then a followup med, then another followup
Yeah
You’ll have to explain/plan too
If you have a bug you’re screwed cus you’ll run out of time debugging
They don’t
They can catch bugs tho
Depends on the interviewer ig, my interviewer was like “I think there’s a bug”
And I spent too much time tracing thru the code
Or rather the interviewer will make u find the bugs urself by running thru examples
upbeat forum
Suppose that we have N cars parked in a line occupying spaces 1 to N. Spaces N+1 to 2N are empty. Every minute a car is considered eligible to move forward one square if a) the space in front of them is empty and b) their number is less than 2N. Suppose that every minute, if a car is eligible to move it has a 1/2 chance of moving forward by one spot. What is the expected amount of minutes before the cars occupy spots N+1 to 2N?
I dont think that easily lol
You still have to consider the previous cars not giving enough space to move up
Oh you sent it here earlier?
true
yeah idek
runic grotto
upbeat forum
do you know the closed form?
but yeah its definitely worse than n^2+n because for n=2 its like at least 7 or 8
no u
rose holly
@blissful kite has closed form sol
potent iron
Anyone know what the omc call w head of educations is like
dm
cyan shoal
@potent iron
Did you do the Akuna second oa for trading?
Idk if anyone has any experience with this but I did the akuna trading oa
Then I was also doing the Akuna quant dev oa
I kinda fucked up the Akuna quant dev oa
potent iron
i got the second oa the coding round for trading but havent done it yet
cyan shoal
But now I just got an email giving me Akuna trading video interview
potent iron
wbu
cyan shoal
And rejection from quant dev
I skipped second oa for Akuna trading
And I went and checked and it seems to have used my quant dev oa
For the trading one as well
I don’t think passing the oa is auto since I got rejected after it for quant dev
But idk how tf I passed it if it used the same oa
wintry tendon
lol cars gets to like 200 digit relatively prime fractions even for n=10
upbeat forum
But now I just got an email giving me Akuna trading video interview
Same they said to expect 45-60m for a one sided video interview…. Like wtf
cyan shoal
Same they said to expect 45-60m for a one sided video interview…. Like wtf
Do u think it’s been auto to this point
Or it’s actually screened
I wanna say it’s screened
upbeat forum
Do u think it’s been auto to this point
idk because I definitely didn’t do great for the second OA
I assumed I was getting ghosted
cyan shoal
Oh damn
That’s a while ago
That long ago makes me think screened
Cause second oa is the same as the quant dev oa
And when I did poor on it for quant dev
They rejected my ass immediately
sand willow
Same they said to expect 45-60m for a one sided video interview…. Like wtf
yeah ikr
i did it yesterday its
cringe
sand willow
er cant say too much
it is a bit behavioral
but technical mostly
they ask u to explain ur approach a bit
sand willow
yeah lmao
upbeat forum
None for a week and then 3 in a day
tender zodiac
anyone do optiver phone here yet
tired yacht
wait @solar axle you got jane street?
scenic bison
lol did he actually
cyan shoal
anyone do optiver phone here yet
Qt or Swe
Did qt last year and it’s the same shit this year
split lintel
lol did he actually
Our man tram will be eating good
Love to see it
amber yacht
Will you get auto screened at optiver if not within the grad date
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cyan shoal
has anyone here taken the first or second oa for c++ akuna?
tulip sapphire
Ya I did it for practice it was fun
But don’t work there
Id rather stay at 0 offers then go there 💀
Prep for tower, headlands, and ansatz phone
Idk I was mentally I’ll at the time
My knowledge of cpp is like C with classes and STL
It’s essentially 0
But if someone saw me write code like that then I’d be shot on the spot
Like idk how streams work so I do .append on std::string
Idk how templates work
Ya I didn’t even know this
Akuna was harder lol
Oh rly
Oh then it’s not bad to append over stream
Right
I’m good at algos not cpp
I just prayge people ask me algo questions
Yeah
But idk much beyond push_back
Like I always have to google how to do basic shit
quasi orbit
Akuna is dumb
cyan shoal
I mean i think 65/hr + corporate housing is better than unemployment yea
also praxis dont you have fucking citadel and optiver phone
why tf are u asking about unemployment
oh ok
quasi orbit
Optiver smoked me
cyan shoal
what happened with akuna?
cyan shoal
Optiver smoked me
swe or qt?
quasi orbit
Akuna is in the trenches
rose holly
also praxis dont you have fucking citadel and optiver phone
He has two sigma offer
quasi orbit
Is two sigma even open?
sand willow
has js responded to anyone
low vault
iirc someone here got js int
rose holly
upbeat forum
its been over a week for me
Since the OA or since you applied
upbeat forum
Hmm yeah I got the OA on Thursday
oblique orbit
Jane street has an oa?
queen sorrel
Anyone hear from JS for QR?
I keep seeing a bunch of rejections in the process channel but they all seem to be for swe
I applied the day it came out
autumn aspen
wait doesn't js not have a OA?
ocean gazelle
is cit phone always lc med + os trivia
half apex
It’s replacing the first round trading interview
where does it say this
upbeat forum
Jane street has an oa?
Oh wait it’s technically called “Jane Street Interview” but it’s a hackerrank
carmine temple
does everyone get this
upon applying
no way
what position
bro
no way
am i him
i just applied tho today
they screen 24/7 tho id assume
yea
lmfao
is this what they call an OA
are u trolling
i think everyone gets this
yea wecu a troll
ocean gazelle
@carmine temple oa is auto yea
ocean gazelle
np
no need to get perfect btw, i think ur resume plays a part
but obv try to get perfect
carmine temple
what are the qs?
are there answers anywehre
💀
im a pre-freshmen im abt to get fucked
goin to college
yeah
makes sense
doubt theyd take any ppl who have 1 yr of college exp by sum 2024
yea ive one done a few easys
nothing much so far tho
lmfao yea
good thing im a pre frosh !
tulip sapphire
They told me they r on freeze rn
ocean gazelle
They told me they r on freeze rn
Their chairmen are beefing
They have bigger issues
amber yacht
For optiver?
rose holly
Offset of 3 yrs*
low vault
lol js called me out on my bs
you would benefit from another year of schooling, etc.
guess they're famaliar with my school
queen sorrel
Was it a personalized rejection?
low vault
Unfortunately, we are unable to find a good match for your skills and credentials at this time. Your experiences show great potential to eventually be a good fit for a role at Jane Street, but our selection process is extremely competitive and we aren't going to interview you at this time. We think that you could benefit from another year of classes and experience, and we encourage you to reapply next year. Here's a link to a blog post that covers what we look for in our software engineering interview process to prepare for your future application.
rising junior?
rose holly
What grad date did u put
low vault
2025
queen sorrel
Oh Ight so that’s my freshman reject email that I’m getting
rose holly
What start date did u put
low vault
2021
rose holly
Wtf
low vault
LOL
rose holly
Apply with a different email
queen sorrel
When’d you apply?
rose holly
I applied to JS with 2 emails
I got rejected the first time, got in interview process second time
Failed final, now I’m blacklisted
rose holly
Last season
rose holly
He’s not trolling
rose holly
Yeah
low vault
real?
rose holly
He’s tryna play it off as trolling but it’s rea
low vault
rose holly
I was there
low vault
when your mom closes 😎
still in refs stage
called recruiter today to discuss who to send refs to
im worried abt whether I made the right choice 
iasdjfioajsdiofjasiodjf
low vault
purposefully not looking 🙂
no looky looky until offer
also did anyone did akuna qd oa
is it hard
i see its only 3 questions so maybe only lc !?!?!?
amber yacht
how much time for akuna qd oa
exotic eagle
60 min if im not wrong
amber yacht
checks out
lyric loom
tulip sapphire
Since they will not be getting hired until a year later
cyan shoal
still in refs stage
What’s Desco process been
Just got referral and waiting to hear back
After submitting all
App*
Ik process is insane
rose holly
Is it LC hards
tulip sapphire
Anyone and everyone
tulip sapphire
I asked this to a partner at the firm I was at last year and he was like literally anyone in the industry who is trading
potent iron
@blissful kite do you get nomcompete if you get fired?
tulip sapphire
No u don’t
At least the sig qt intern who got fired on day one last yr didn’t get one
He tried to copy and paste their entire education wiki and notes into a zip file and email it to himself with apparently the intention to sell IP
When he got caught he was like “oh I don’t speak English so I was just sending it to myself so I can practice reading English at home”
But they take ip theft seriously and didn’t buy it
Oh oops
Just me fr
Don’t wait too long
I took a few days to schedule my tower interview and they rejected me since they reached headcount in that time
I’m so sad
ocean gazelle
I took a few days to schedule my tower interview and they rejected me since they...
for what cycle
tower swe still hasnt opened
they had to come to my school and pick someone to replace someone who dropped 🤭
queen sorrel
Tower QT is out though
No like apps open
Are inters allowed to trade on their own proprietary models though
I’d assume no?
True
I don’t gotta worry about that for like 2 yrs though
tulip sapphire
So they have a pod structure. I got matched to a pod then that pod filled immediately leaving me as probably blacklisted without ever interviewing Lmfao
upbeat forum
Did tower respond to anyone yet
upbeat forum
Are all trading internships basically just games/training
Optiver seems to be that way at least
you dont do any real work they just try to filter the ng hires
upbeat forum
is the coin fair?
tulip sapphire
Are all trading internships basically just games/training
QR and QD are def nothing like this
Maybe qt is I wouldn’t know
tulip sapphire
I mean I consider my qr experience a trading internship
upbeat forum
my interviewer said its basically games/training the whole internship
tulip sapphire
QRs work on proprietary models? What lol
That’s insane EV, everyone would want to poach u
Ah ic
Ya I chose my current firm since they allowed me to work on proprietary modeling and alpha research
I’ll probably end up returning here ft
The funniest bs is that tower sent me this after canceling my interview
obsidian flare
disgusting
upbeat forum
JS over Optiver? why
im curious i dont know much about the hft firms
pay is better at optiver
full time
tulip sapphire
North Moore is good
static musk
js ng > opt
tulip sapphire
Crypto 🤮
upbeat forum
hmm alright
tulip sapphire
I heard tesuji wound down
upbeat forum
how long do firms like optiver/js give to accept an offer
queen sorrel
I thought I heard JS pay wasn’t the best
upbeat forum
I thought I heard JS pay wasn’t the best
same
queen sorrel
What you got to make a market on a salary?
tulip sapphire
But I feel like my firm won’t be able to afford giving me a RO
obsidian flare
abd ruined him
queen sorrel
Idk you guys were saying desco, radix, etc. pay more
upbeat forum
wtf
queen sorrel
Or it might be intern?
tulip sapphire
De Shaw and co
queen sorrel
DE Shaw and company
upbeat forum
thanks
queen sorrel
Oh not QT in particular
tulip sapphire
Radix has a qt role 
queen sorrel
I think they might’ve been talking intern pay
Bc JS is like $3500 and 5R, DE, radix are like 5k weekly
Or swe idk
They were wrong
What like 100 hr/wk?
tulip sapphire
Id rather be radix devops making 500k/yr than me unemployed (me rn, tentatively)
tulip sapphire
What like 100 hr/wk?
Over n=3 I’ve seen 40-45 hrs
They haven’t made it 1yr though
Meanwhile I’m ngmi anywhere
queen sorrel
Isn’t 40hrs standard
wintry tendon
ex citadel 😮
quasi orbit
Five rings is 120/hr
but 5r intern class has more women than men
so I respect that
quasi orbit
u could go into 5r single and come out with gf
Not only u make money but u also make life
literal dub
that is why I only respect 5r
queen sorrel
$1M/yr household out of undergrad
quasi orbit
All the 5r girls are Asian tho
lost leaf
Meanwhile I’m ngmi anywhere
poser
queen sorrel
All the 5r girls are Asian tho
Idc their race if their cute
tender zodiac
at that point house husband arc
lost leaf
all of us real ngmis need to gang up on him and beat him up as soon as he leaves his apartment
nluckino9ropes
gluckino9ropes
mluckino9ropes
iluckino9ropes
hope this helped!
he has like 40yoe in human what am i supposed to do
after 30 years old you stop keeping track 
i use my uncle's yacht
upbeat forum
Desco elitist
queen sorrel
If you want to go into PE, suffer through IB for a few yrs
Bro PE is all excel
Go do your DCF models
Nah typically PE firms recruit IB analysts
Too lazy to train them
tender zodiac
going directly to pe is impossible unless you have harvard god connections
queen sorrel
Unless you have a family friend who owns a PE firm
Also in PE isn’t your salary heavily backloaded
Like to start making bank you need to rise to a pos with carry then wait like 5 yrs for investments to pay off
tulip sapphire
isnt huntsman a special prgm? idt he could have applied to major in Hispanic studies
not quant
real
obsidian flare
amber yacht
tulip sapphire
u could go into 5r single and come out with gf
nah most of them r cuffed already
amber yacht
Imagine being single at 33 and making dashboards for the rest of your life and knowing that you’ll be single forever
quasi orbit
im also cuffed
ocean gazelle
omc recruiter and eng came to my school
they were weird af the whole time
felt kinda off
obtuse flame
they were weird af the whole time
How so
queen sorrel
They haven’t failed me yet
tender zodiac
I think that Cutler group is up there, but it is a very small boutique so
I think they do more
unless im tripping
queen sorrel
Used take FAANG over 5r and Optiver?
lost leaf
whats the qj tier list?
tender zodiac
I rather do swe walmart than valkyrie
wintry tendon
quant janitor?
queen sorrel
QR tier list?
wintry tendon
akuna is most exciting
pastel geyser
What allegations?
tender zodiac
2022 right I think its like 70+ now, I can confirm with someone just in case
still low but
somehow it pays more than cutler group
which i find hard af to believe
lyric loom
@thorn wyvern
tulip sapphire
isnt that fundamental not quant
lost leaf
he works at frobenius financial
tulip sapphire
who tf ru
queen sorrel
I think UG
Apply to both
I applied to 5 internships there
N/A
Haven’t heard back but I’m expecting reject
You go on the website and click a button to apply to multiple
I applied to 5 with 1 app
It’s like check a bunch of circles before pressing apply
tender zodiac
The Ring 2.0
hexed rock
lost leaf
if you fail the c1 interview your human rights may have to be taken away. just a fair warning
why would you prepare for a c1 interview??
this is probably unironically enough.
ngmi
queen sorrel
What about resume screen stage?
upbeat forum
Of Optiver's 6300 employees on their LinkedIn 0 of them went to my school lmao
upbeat forum
typo I meant 5300
quasi orbit
ppl who make these lists need to actually put up some facts lol
they just bs out of their ass
tulip sapphire
right befoe offer they ask for letters of rec and they actually contact them
tulip sapphire
ppl who make these lists need to actually put up some facts lol
i mean is this not just TC over brand name? i agree that it's bs, but the rzn it's bs is cuz at pod shops at say, jump, some teams are tier 1 and some are tier terrible. Putting both in tier 1.5 is non-sensical imo
quasi orbit
then why r u sorting by teams
tulip sapphire
like if ur a min wage data cleaner u should not be tier 1.5
cuz TC is decided by team? lol
quasi orbit
even at these places? usually theyre decided by pod right
but if not its usually the same?
tulip sapphire
even JS has insane team variance especially for QR, there are some places u absolutely dont want to be on there
amber yacht
Cope
ocean gazelle
some prestige is important to most people
quasi orbit
i mean if its in terms or work its always team dependant lol
u can be at js and do the worst work possible
tulip sapphire
prestige is important to other firms
ocean gazelle
personally I’m not in it 100% for the money
the money is important but it’s not the biggest factor to me
at least currently
ocean gazelle
no bullshit I just like low latency systems + working w markets
quasi orbit
and the work u do is exclusively latency/core dev
ocean gazelle
team dependent
tulip sapphire
bro tried to sneak jump into js/hrt/cit
amber yacht
Bro didn’t even hide it in the middle
Just appended it
quasi orbit
where r u hearing this lol
qr?
ic
for swe its lower i thik
but thats like at most firms
qr will pay more
yea
i c
oh do u mean intern or full time lol
pseudo marten
did they reach out for interviews yet?
quasi orbit
No
pseudo marten
oh alright
they didn't say anything about when things were opening up so I assumed they'd reach out first
amber yacht
what are your thoughts on faking grad date? should I do it by default if I'm a soph, or submit as '26 unless they specify '25
autumn aspen
do they send the take home without resume screening? i got rejected after the take home LMAO
fringe flint
tulip sapphire
Rip levered beta boy
Was walleye traditionally a direct competitor to Citadel?
I never thought of them as one
Walleye has undergrad QRs but they are mostly low/mid-freq fundamental equity
I never thought of them as a competitor to cit gqs
Like they are only even called QRs cuz they are systematic but they do fundamental not quant/quantamental research
tulip sapphire
Ya p72 is a walleye competitor
I also only think of gqs when I hear cit since everything else is irrelevant
cyan shoal
Anyone else just hear back about drw qt?
trim wharf
Yea rope
oblique orbit
Rejected
cyan shoal
Yea rope
tulip sapphire
Would u want to work there?
Exactly.
JCS has some pretty polarizing stuff if u look it up in the other server
Everything from better than rentec to worse than nothing 
Jump is pod so makes sense
cyan shoal
i did but i was so confused abt this. I was thinkng abt it and it never said dont use a calculator anyhwere
i put the answer because i thought we were allowed to use a calculator
like thats why i dont think it was trap
did u get interview?
i just think they take so few qt interns and thats why
resume just not strong enough
do yk anyone who got it?
damn
what was their resume though
like school/past internships
i feel like its gotta be that idk
hexed rock
rope
thorn wyvern
Isn’t that the sage of six paths from Naruto
tulip sapphire
Can u send application link that gets u this? I wanna try
Also what’s max score nowadays
Former
Former.
obsidian flare
bro acting like hes not a qd at the most famous firm in new york
tulip sapphire
Reminds me of @atomic quail
obsidian flare
yea luckino is at cit
tulip sapphire
U swapped me with Mr stats phd
oblique orbit
Anyone hear back from sig after oa?
amber yacht
wait i thought only sig interest was out
low vault
Interest is for swe no?
amber yacht
oh yea
rose holly
Ask to skip straight to offer
stiff girder
u have desco interviee?
sheesh how many interviews did you do??
na like how many total lol??
main totem
how cracked r u bro ☠️
ocean gazelle
wait i thought only sig interest was out
qt/qr intern is out
cyan shoal
anyone hear from akuna after vidcruiter
probably gonna take a week or 2
just took it is it chill if i dm u to see if we got the same thing
potent iron
I got alphabet game
cyan shoal
yea it is
exotic eagle
anyone know when to hear back from akuna after easyhire
also kinda stupid q but
am i fucked if i messed up on 1 question
quasi orbit
Akuna will rescind ur offers bros
lost current
yall got sig OA?
p sure it's automated lol
cyan shoal
Anyone giving out virtu financial referrals by any chance
upbeat forum
Is the akuna options trading course any good
For someone with very little knowledge in options trading
lost leaf
i asked @analog stratus for the referral and he called me a league player
main totem
For someone with very little knowledge in options trading
def
rotund thorn
Anybody know what to expect from akuna quant dev easyhire?
wintry stirrup
Does anyone know what an optiver tech interview looks like? Not sure what to expect
proven steeple
Anyone giving out virtu financial referrals by any chance
Yup
cyan shoal
U?
proven steeple
Aquatic, Citadel, Cubist, CTC, Virtu, TGS, Worldquant, etc. for entry level
proven steeple
Aquatic, Citadel, Cubist, CTC, Virtu, TGS, Worldquant, etc. for entry level
The firms I can intro entry level candidates. I work with other top firms but for experience hires.
amber yacht
dayum
amber yacht
Aquatic, Citadel, Cubist, CTC, Virtu, TGS, Worldquant, etc. for entry level
Mind if I dm tomorrow?
proven steeple
Don’t really get a chance to check this very often. If you reach out on LinkedIn or email I’m happy to help with any intros or any information that can help.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-davidov/
I’m in the relationship and information business. So even if I don’t help you get your first role could definitely help you in the future with market color, opportunities, investors, candidates, etc.
proven steeple
Mind if I dm tomorrow?
Sure
amber yacht
appreciate it
brave token
Brothers and sisters and friends
tulip sapphire
i asked <@426158103654825984> for the referral and he called me a league player
only gozer is elitist enough to make being a league player an insult 
what is this?
remote moss
Anyone know how long the DE shaw swe intern onsite is? Their email just says "half a day" but that could mean anything
low vault
3-4h sh
dire karma
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tough sand
We’ll get there✊🏻✊🏻
tough sand
What u taking about lil bro