#quants-n-traders

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summer jackal
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parents too

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they're the ones paying

keen grove
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parents, fine that's a consideration

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randos at your HS????

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who cares

summer jackal
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no im full pay

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both have same cost

final forge
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mfer u ever been to new haven? 4KEKW

keen grove
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consider location also

summer jackal
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its like 100 bucks

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stanford is 87.8k yale is 87.7 or smthn

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its legit the exact same

keen grove
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visit both campuses

summer jackal
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might be less than 100 actually

final forge
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ever seen a nude man roller blading down the street in downtown?

keen grove
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get the fuck out of this channel

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go to the campuses

final forge
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fuck yea

keen grove
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everyone else here is speaking out of their asses

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just visit

summer jackal
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alr been to yale campus

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havent been to stanford

keen grove
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visit stanford

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yea but like it's personal preference to some extent and we are not the person

final forge
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visit the campus is 7/10 advice, but like really what are you actually getting out of that? frankly visiting campuses didn't tell me that much about what it's actually like to go to school somewhere

summer jackal
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id get disowned if i went to cc lmao

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parents are all about prestige

keen grove
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location

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the vibes

final forge
keen grove
cyan sparrow
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@lyric loom

summer jackal
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honestly i dont think visiting stanford will change much

final forge
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damn east coaster gtfo

summer jackal
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yeah i have visited yale

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i didnt do a dedicated tour

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only thing i took away is that the campus is nice

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was there for a few hours then gone

final forge
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from my limited perspective yale and stanny have as close to diametrically opposed vibes as possible for a top tier US school lol

summer jackal
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but i dont care about location much

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its in late april

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eh its far off though

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to go to the east coast again

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plus missing school

final forge
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anyway why in this channel in anyway? I don't think either are known for their finance placements, though neither will be particularly bad at if it's that's what you're looking for

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rlly? interesting

summer jackal
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im mainly focusing on the programs/opportunities

final forge
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all I know is cs is at least a little meme

summer jackal
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and if yale's finance edge is worth begging parents over

acoustic spade
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@severe dagger

lyric loom
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no wrong one

final forge
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no I mean quant-trading PepeHands

acoustic spade
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oh..

final forge
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IB nerds shouldn't be here cough

acoustic spade
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krishna

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shouldnt we sleep

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ikr

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ahh

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east coast best coast

final forge
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coastal elites gtfo

acoustic spade
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im acc bicoastal

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šŸ’€

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its wednesday

summer jackal
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is yale over stanford gonna be the diff for any position?

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all else being equal

acoustic spade
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night guys

summer jackal
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swe, QT, and IB

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for ft QT prob

final forge
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job app? probably not. actual like daily differences in life style/education/who you meet/culture? almost def

summer jackal
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yeah i know that

final forge
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ok excluding fucking IB if you're into that idk why you are here.

summer jackal
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i mean for after first internship

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ib or qt roles

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more focused on qt

summer jackal
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apparently QT is a dead end

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idk if im willing to sacrifice life for IB though

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QT is bad too ofc but not as long hours

runic grotto
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20? wtf

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I went for 60 and I know I'm on the way lower end compared to most people

summer jackal
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berk is strong in quant?

runic grotto
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Not startups?

cyan sparrow
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do u think its mostly qt/qr? or swe at quant

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i love berk

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@lyric loom good night buddy

runic grotto
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90% of the time someone says this they get back on 5 minutes later

lyric loom
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no

short patio
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This channel is fucking neurotic

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Jesus h Christ

night topaz
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I'm having a terrible time choosing between 2 internships as someone looking into quant finance, which one holds more relevancy and what can I get the most value out of? ik these 2 positions aren't that great but its all I have: 1. Data Engineer, Virtual vs. 2. Research Engineer, In Person

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any suggestion is really appreciated

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data engineer pays $6.25 more

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did you get that?

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ok so whats ur answer

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the data engineer one is owned by a private equity fund

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theres no ipo

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how is that better

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ok

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thats not what i meant

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i meant they're not on the stock market

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like Google

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right

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so you dont think a research engineer for a fork lift company holds any weight to a trading firm, as maybe something like a quantitative researcher

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basically they wouldnt give a fuck

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?

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we know

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i like the mind set

proven glade
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i just saw someone that has Incoming @ Jane Street for Summer 2024
How is that possible??

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Dayum this early??

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also what does some people mean
like are you referring to a specific group of people

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ah do you still have to go through the whole process?

keen grove
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I'm incoming @ JS 20XX for X uniformly randomly distributed between 3 and 9

scenic bison
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yeah agreed

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just take whatever is more practical for hft if thats what you want. Low level, infra work, etc is more important then what industry it is

neat junco
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you won't get interview unless there's huge improvement on resume

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like another HFT internship

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yes

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idk tbh

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interviews are just rng

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depends on problem difficulty probably

cyan sparrow
neat junco
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if it's lc hard then prob fine

obtuse flame
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I think so

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Prob harder but you can do devops anywhere

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I wonā€™t worry about unemployment

shadow estuary
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devops/sre at a trading firm sounds horrible ngl

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has the downside/stress of a trader where you can get blamed and need to make sure no money is lost but none of the upside

uncut steeple
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hey guys

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I got scheduled for an interview with a quant firm about a week ago for next week, then today out of the blue they sent me this

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Having reviewed the results of your assessment alongside your application, we regret to inform you that we will not be progressing your application any further.

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???

short patio
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OA diff

uncut steeple
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I passed all test cases

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scored perfect on the assessment and took 1hr/2hr

opaque sable
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u got resume screened šŸ’€ welcome to quant recruiting

uncut steeple
opaque sable
shadow estuary
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wat

opaque sable
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Citadel and hrt do, probably others

shadow estuary
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didnt he pass if he got an interview scheduled

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im confused

opaque sable
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I think drw as well

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If you got invited to interview after you did the oa I would give your recruiter a message or something

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It's definitely weird to resume screen after scheduling an interview

uncut steeple
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so the person that sent me the stop email is different from the person who recruited me

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I'll send the email and also post my resume

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extremely confused

short patio
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My prof just said JS tried to poach him LOL

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Bro has a PhD in functional programming and is teaching at a t30 like catch me at JS

uncut steeple
opaque sable
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ok now i dont think you got resume screened šŸ˜‚

uncut steeple
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ok I got a reply

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the original recruiter says there was confusion & he will rebook it

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????

summer jackal
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is bw VC?

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OH bridgewater

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gotcha

shadow estuary
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sequoia solos

rose holly
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šŸ’€

scenic bison
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Average business student pitching startup to cs major

fast gazelle
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thereā€™s a lot of people that are ā€œpartnersā€ at student-led VCs

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idk if theyā€™re actually investing their own money

runic grotto
fast gazelle
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but where do they get the capital

gray silo
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is ng swe at quant firms possible with no prev quant internships?

fast gazelle
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yes

short patio
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Just pass interview

gray silo
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I feel like resume screen is fucked tho

short patio
gray silo
scenic bison
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if its like lower level stuff at google or something and you go to a good school you probably wont struggle

short patio
gray silo
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payments

short patio
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Knowing zon theres a good chance you get web dev @ zon

gray silo
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yea it was basically completely rand

short patio
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And idk if you have research or TA or what else

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Big diff between, say, UIUC and shitcan t30 for quant

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I am not jealous of UIUC kids I am not jealous of UIUC kids copium

gray silo
short patio
gray silo
short patio
gray silo
short patio
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Just make sure you're in good shape, don't worry about others

scenic bison
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Yeah youā€™re probably chilling

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Especially if you get a backend team or something

gray silo
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yea i might kms if iā€™m making buttons work

short patio
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you trying for qt next year?

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the problem is by the time the classes teach you anythign relevant recruiting for qt is done

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so really u should be doing interview qs now if you want qt

cyan sparrow
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^

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You will be able to use some lc for qr as well

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Iā€™ve seen lc and probability

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Only done one tho

short patio
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Mix of LC and prob

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At least thatā€™s what my friend says

cyan sparrow
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chae whats ur peak zetamac

lost leaf
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i hate that stupid pink blob

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i will pop it like i popped jigglypuff

rose holly
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Chaewon saying itā€™s bad but she doesnā€™t wanna be rude

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I know exactly what u mean

summer jackal
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how come?

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ah that makes sense ty for the info

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js/optiver are trader run while hrt/shaw are research run right?

summer jackal
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from intern to ft?

short patio
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Behavioral is not specific to quant methinks

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Just have some stories

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Math, prob, trading games

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Skill issue

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Thatā€™s like saying I have technical with google I donā€™t know what leetcode is

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Too bad bro you either are gonna cram or bomb

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I havenā€™t done any of them but usually it relates to trusting your gut, minimizing risk while maximizing EV

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Should have at least basic understanding of EV, Bayes thm etc tho surely

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Idk the optiver process specifically

amber veldt
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Which optiver location

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prolly can't apply to australia if i'm an american citizen right

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also has anyone done sig discovery day

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sophomore

opaque sable
amber veldt
# opaque sable nah, pretty sure optiver only sponsors for their amsterdam office

nah idt they even do that, i got this email when i had applied

Thank you for your application for the role of Trading Analyst (Academic Part-time Job) and your interest in Optiver.

The role is only available to applicants based in the Netherlands who are eligible to work a minimum of 16 hours a week.

The work permit for candidates from outside the EU/EEA or Switzerland does not provide the flexibility in working hours that is required for this role as hours are limited to maximum 16 hours per week or fulltime for only 3 months (June, July, August).

We however recommend you to look at our other roles as we might be able to provide sponsorship for these roles.

Kind regards,

opaque sable
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I interviewed with them this season

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That looks like a part time job for students to do alongside their degree, which internationals can't do cause of student visa restrictions

tulip sapphire
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same (i did not get into stanford)

tulip sapphire
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maybe for IB but for quant Stanford >> esp if ur a CS major

pastel geyser
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^

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Stanford is significantly better than Yale at cs, and to a lesser extent mathematics

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Different kinds of people attend both schools too

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Stanford thus sees better placement in more technical jobs like quant. though for traditional finance I suspect Yale might be above Stanford

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pls define finance for the classroom

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would working at, say, Shaw not count as ā€œrealā€ finance then

runic grotto
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What about gqs

pastel geyser
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and whatā€™s wrong with nerdge finance

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I fail to see any unifying themes behind your classification of ā€œnerdgeā€ and ā€œrealā€ finance

static musk
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also has anyone done sig discovery day

tulip sapphire
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yeah this was exactly the point i was making

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they are posting in a cs discord quant channel

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so i assume they are more on the quantitative side than finance side

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stanford is def the right choice here, it's a top 4 cs school, just dont get roped into becoming an amzn swe intern for soph or junior yr (do quant instead)

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if it's freshman yr amzn intern then it's not even that bad

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and if it's non-amzn fanng intern freshman yr then that's great setup for quant in later years

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why tf would u want to go to a nontechnical school like Yale clowning

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when you go to a school with cracked nerds

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if i had the option to attend stanford i wouldve taken it

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stanford has way more quants than yale

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afaik

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Yale is also rly expensive

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whereas getting scholarships at Stanford is easy since it has more prestige to the avg technical person

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read the next msg

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like external scholarships almost always go to stanford people

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at least at my high school they did

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never seen anyone from yale get them

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among regional ones ye

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if ur doing trad fi then yale solo's

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but for quant stanford solos

lost leaf
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what is 2+2 mba?

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no shot just do a phd chae please for the love of god

tulip sapphire
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not true

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u cant get it if ur like a dropout

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or from a rly bad uni

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or at least not top shops

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with what research šŸ˜‚

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isnt vatic one of the more elitist places?

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smaller firms are more elitist imo

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they cant take the risk

opaque sable
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i can

tulip sapphire
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def not

lost leaf
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holy shit 19 an hour? god im so gapped

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earning money is cope

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just ask your rich dad

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surely dying at 33 is retiring early

summer jackal
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im interested in tradfi too but stanford seems to place better there as well

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especially for PE/VC

summer jackal
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based on linkedin

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idk if thats a good source haha

short patio
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feel like that's more of a selection bias thing

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kids who want to go trad fi usually don't go stanford

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stanford for cs

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so self-selecting in that regard

cyan sparrow
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this is so raw

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šŸ”„

twin cloud
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whereā€™s iino and ishigami making out on her bear

broken thorn
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should have been an IIT

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stanford easy

rose holly
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what company

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RENEGE

rose holly
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did it say positive or extremely positive

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yeah they did

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but they wont actually tell us teams for like another month

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so its possible that they can still match other people who get accepted after now

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hi

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sixers lost

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lol what

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what company doesnt

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lol

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shit was funny

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I know someone who got normal offer like a year or two before us and also had extremely positive in their email

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I want to see prax in nyc

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we can watch the celtics in the finals

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after the sixers go down

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lol s had a very fun experience with 2s recruiting

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did you get the email saying extremely positive from that recruiter

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and then they got fired between that time and when they were supposed to ask for that stuff

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thomas saved you

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from being a newspaper editor

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tommy finding a hidden intern offer ---> s has to go to connecticut

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you might be better off if he didnt find it

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couldve stayed out of connecticut

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which part of nyc is the housing in

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oh nice thats pretty close to nyu

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think so

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they just said nyu housing

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but in the past its been law

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oh what

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how big is nyu

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oh ok thats like a half mile from the law school dorms

twin cloud
uncut steeple
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hey can somebody explain this template sequence

main gyro
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Dude's either a superhuman, a liar, or got mommy and daddy that got some big ass connections/cash

short patio
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I have mutuals

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Probably real

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But wtf why stack internships

neat junco
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seven months ago i got similar response

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very positive -> verbal offer -> ghosted & pulled cuz no headcount

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but this was for ng

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just don't trust their HR

sonic abyss
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can confirm

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got his own process tracker and shit too

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idk much about web dev but shit looks great for a 1 man project

long raft
sonic abyss
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oh lmao i just copied the link from the other server

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shout out to @solar axle tho šŸ«”

obtuse flame
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duke but it's close

keen grove
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The cheaper one

raw glen
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at the point it's completely preference

keen grove
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Well USC is shorter to type than Duke

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Think about all the ink you'll save

raw glen
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as long as you got that dawg in you both schools, if you will, "amplify" your efforts towards quant equally

obtuse flame
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idk too much about USC

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For their quant hiring

neat junco
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Is this bs or ms tho

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That makes a difference

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Duke 100%

amber veldt
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Usc if you're trying for faang swe

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Duke if quant

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Also prolly usc for social life

barren steeple
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usc way better overall imo

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duke vs usc wont change job prospects really

sonic abyss
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duke has way more qt interns if that's something ur interested in

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u'll probably be fine at usc but i'd imagine there are more resources/community at duke for that

runic grotto
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We've gotten like 3-4 in the past week here

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Not sure if this pattern also appeared last year around the same time

keen grove
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šŸ¤“

broken thorn
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i like ur username fish

royal forge
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2 months working at HRT and look how much bigger his chain is

broken thorn
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imagine how sped up the process will be if they got mr beast healthcare

lyric loom
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not ironic

royal forge
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put belvedere in t6 šŸ˜”

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bridgewater t0

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arrowstreet is probably above but depends on role

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how did you not get any of the t4/below

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oh

fast mountain
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Arrowstreet is meh, lol

royal forge
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yeah i didnt realize it was swe

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oh what?

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did you interview with drw/imc?

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why

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ah yea forgot

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i was thinking about the NG stats on levels

rose holly
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yes

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yes

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yes

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youre providing some good evidence that the list is valid

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you shouldve gone to citsec qr like M

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His name is sid

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no his name is s

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Then you are sid

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I am

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You got some plump juicy lips

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should i block this guy

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šŸ˜¹

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It is your choice to block or not

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What about PDT

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S++ tier: company I work at SWE
F tier: company that you guys work at any role

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I thought algo eng is closer to qr

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Swe

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oh is it just swe

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hrt's too weird

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I just use them for free gym shirts

fast mountain
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qr is overrated and most people aren't able to find alpha

rose holly
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my alpha is less than 0.05

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I reject null hypothesis every day

fast mountain
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But this is career suicide

rose holly
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wdym youre getting paid to do nothing

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you dont need career at that point

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go explore the world

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play some geoguessr

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M is too cool for that

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disney world

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how tf did he pull that off

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actually you probably couldve done it

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its not like B wouldve noticed you were gone

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Play WoW 16 hrs a day

fast mountain
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After 2 yrs, you stop getting interviews because of your potential/school

broken thorn
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2 sig swe vs google swe

fast mountain
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Yeah 2yrs qr then l3 at dropbox

rose holly
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bro theres a noncompete for swe interns

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that shits hilarious

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only one guy was

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hey B showed up those 3 times

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looking like a completely different person each time

fast mountain
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Anywhere in the US and no col bs?

rose holly
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they avoid capital gains tax tho

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thats why they live in pr

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those guys dont

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the puerto rico guys never showed up in person

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oh yeah thats true

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I think alex did that

rugged rampart
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just get phd

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then ez

rose holly
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or at least something similar

raw glen
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just enter their hq ?

rugged rampart
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you can do it 1.5

shadow estuary
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y not try to get in as research eng and try to become rs via osmosis?

rugged rampart
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berk phd -> stanford ap

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i forgot his name

rose holly
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alex kepler

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yes

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he commented on your post

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3 > 2

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that was great

shadow estuary
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thoughts on sre/devops/prod eng at a trading firm? @regal sorrel

rose holly
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dont do it

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just do qr

shadow estuary
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ah i missed that, makes sense

rose holly
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was any intern doing sre in houston

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or any of that sorta stuff

uncut steeple
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wow it's a small world

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these people need to be DM'd to stop making tiktok videos

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but they probably won't stop for that sponsored ads money

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ruining the industry man

royal forge
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2s swes šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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5.0 šŸ‘€

uncut steeple
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who wants to make the DM

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we need a tiktok's most wanted list

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to stop the 'day in the life' videos

frail sapphire
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what do you guys study to get a job/internship at a quant firm

amber veldt
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is alex kepler not just a joke

short patio
frail sapphire
amber veldt
short patio
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Anyone have experience interviewing with top Faang companies like Facebook/Google/Walmart?

frail sapphire
rose holly
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hello

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is anyone going to

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UChicago Trading Competition

amber veldt
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qr requires a lot of highly specialized stats knowledge from personal exp

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its like hella in depth stochastic shit

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and quant research is insanely robust in terms of the amount of papers so there's so much to learn

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which makes it a really exciting field but also when you think about the applications of your stats it's very specialized to the point of it being kinda esoteric, and that's why i think stats research has way cooler applications outside of qr, but obviously qr makes the most money so theres that

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like astrophysics reasearch vs quant finance research i think anyone could agree which is more interesting

keen grove
rose holly
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qr requires a lot of highly specialized stats knowledge from personal exp
its like hella in depth stochastic shit
and quant research is insanely robust in terms of the amount of papers so there's so much to learn
which makes it a really exciting field but also when you think about the applications of your stats it's very specialized to the point of it being kinda esoteric, and that's why i think stats research has way cooler applications outside of qr, but obviously qr makes the most money so theres that
like astrophysics reasearch vs quant finance research i think anyone could agree which is more interesting

lost stratus
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Is there anything actually bad about bridgewater?

lost stratus
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Iv heard about it but im confused why or what exactly about it is considered bad

lost stratus
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are you talking about the reviews that says stuff like:

Constant surveillance, and management's obsessive need to know your every thought, made this the most bizarre work experience, ever

Being able to view recordings of top management meetings was fascinating, mostly because it showed how the "Principles", in practice, were applied not as tools for understanding, but as tools of dominance.

or is it worse stuff that i should farther down?

rugged rampart
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Gm

obtuse flame
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If you want to do trader, do trading internship, if you want to do SWE at trading firm then SWE

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If youā€™re remotely interested in trading do trading internship

sonic abyss
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Trading

broken thorn
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sour grapes

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"why does he get to make money foe slaving away at this silly problem

lost stratus
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What do you consider no name?

tulip sapphire
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Itā€™s a bit of both

weary path
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LOL no.

empty meteor
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As an incoming at square, I advise you go with trading firm for your Quant goals

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I dont think square tech stack is relevant to quant much, even for quant swe

winged aurora
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honestly QR is hit or miss since bulk of ur pay is dependent on performance and whether ur signals and what not are actually being used

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u dont rlly get much of progression if ur performance isnt good

uncut steeple
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its a still a steal versus trading with your own money

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all upside no downside no capital commitment

royal forge
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gigaChad ^

amber veldt
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i never said anything about that, a lot of the papers are from big banks like jp morgan

weary path
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QR is definitely not ā€œdisrespectedā€ in academia. In fact lots of professors actively work together with QRs on publications. The idea of rankings, prestige or how hard it is to get a job do not play a big role in research.

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Hans BĆ¼hler for example actively used to publish papers with one of my profs.

prime warren
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has anyone worked at squarepoint before, how are they? I'm in the final HM round

signal bloom
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How to register for CS 61BL online class?

empty meteor
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hey y'all, which is the better choice for new grad swe, Squarepoint Capital or Morgan Stanley?

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thoughts pls? @regal sorrel @rose holly

gusty sigil
empty meteor
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Morgan Stanley in Toronto, Squarepoint in Montreal

gusty sigil
#

Squarepoint tc is 90k right

empty meteor
#

how well known is Squarepoint in the quant industry btw?

empty meteor
#

tbh hardly any jobs are well paid in Montreal

gusty sigil
#

Itā€™s good tc for Montreal

empty meteor
gusty sigil
#

I am not qualified to give advice btw , just was curious

empty meteor
#

kkk np, hope it helps you too

winged aurora
#

they dont do HFT and they aint rlly a quant company since they are mainly investment management

#

its literally like calling on the phone

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and they only just started building a data pipeline which is literally just one pipeline

#

if u r looking into quant industry will prolly advice you to try for a HFT or smthing where they place more focus on tech and defo not square

empty meteor
#

ye they are obviously not the best but how are they compared to Morgan Stanley?

#

which are the less bad for swe?

winged aurora
#

i think morgan stanley will be better learning opp compares to square

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because square just started trying to modernize

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i see quite a few ppl from morgan especially those also working on similar low latency stuff jumping to other trading companies as quant dev

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but just my opnion cuz i am only familiar with how square is like in asia hahahah

#

they could function differently in states

empty meteor
#

Squarepoint vs Morgan Stanley?

#

feel they are equally bad atp tbh lol

prime warren
#

the interview is def harder than morgan stanley, but not sure how it is for future career growth. cuz not many people have heard of squarepoint?

winged aurora
#

yea square is more prominent in APAC

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HK SG etc

tulip sapphire
#

^ive heard similar things as chaewon has

#

there are a bunch of profs at my uni who hate FAANG & quant people cuz they use their skills to make $$ instead of trying to make the world a better place

shadow estuary
#

@rose holly optimal?

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stay at home is top tier no?

weary path
#

This would fall under applied math in most grad schools. Idk how it is at your school but there are not enough research positions for all the grad students after they finish their grad school, so why would they be mad at some of them going to the industry?

weary path
tulip sapphire
broken thorn
#

Roxbury latin is not worth

#

it just makes you into a grammar nazi

night topaz
#

šŸ˜‚

limpid nacelle
#

instead of pursuing a path in research?

weary path
reef marsh
#

max prestige wife

lost stratus
#

What did he say that was funny?

#

Which of his messages were funny?

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No i didnt but it seems youre mad now

#

What is so funny and why?

long raft
long raft
rose holly
#

Radix simp is an AI

short patio
#

he's funny without trying

cyan sparrow
short patio
#

you are just astounded by the things that come out of his mouth

broken thorn
#

wait is radix simp the guy who wanted a 5k apartment on 160k TC

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small world

uneven bronze
#

Do ppl do coke in quant

barren steeple
#

its chill

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i think > 50% of college students probably do coke

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no

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its common at most schools

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especially big state schools with greek life

shadow estuary
barren steeple
#

might be a bit high

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probably like 10-20%

#

mb

quasi orbit
barren steeple
#

weed probably 80% + in college

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for like if ppl have ever smoked

signal harness
#

Iā€™d say around 30

rose holly
rugged rampart
#

What's the endorsi lore

broken thorn
#

80% too high but 10% too low imo

#

like a third or half of people try it lifetime, most in college or high school im assuming

keen grove
tulip sapphire
#

endorsi is chill

tulip sapphire
runic grotto
tulip sapphire
#

for context i was not there for it

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but it sounds chad af

runic grotto
#

šŸ’€

tulip sapphire
#

i would love to stream doing an interview (if they were ok with it)

#

so many people are bad at interviews and showing an example of how to interview properly seems helpful

tulip sapphire
tulip sapphire
#

idk who yahkub is

#

r they a moderator?

#

and thought he was getting help or sth

rose holly
#

If no one joined the coderpad it wouldā€™ve been fine sadge

cyan sparrow
lost stratus
#

Lmao what happened after that

coarse apex
#

yo just a dumb question, does working for a government previously bad for getting into big quant companies?

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like do SWE for Government -> SWE in a HFT Quant

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yea thats what I was thinking too but also idk if this is true, I think they would more likely reject from the fact taht u previously worked for the gov right?

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even if u are stacked

coarse apex
#

no im saying what if ur that cracked but have a backgroud that says u worked for the gov before

short patio
#

meraki

coarse apex
#

I think cuz they are kinda sketchy and wouldnt want any leakage

shadow estuary
#

ppl rlly overplay how "cracked" you need to be to get into quant

#

they have hundreds of interns, they interview a ton

short patio
#

I feel like you just need some combination of good interviewing skills, very sharp communication, and a decent amount of niche knowledge (os etc)

#

and obviously leetcode

shadow estuary
#

its a function of 2 parts

short patio
#

but that takes a lot of time to acquire

shadow estuary
#

getting the interviewing and passing it

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u do not need to be cracked to get one

short patio
#

yeah

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agree

shadow estuary
#

this is for swe

#

u prob need to be cracked to pass qt and qr

#

for swe there is a lot of randomness in processes so bozos slip through

short patio
#

LMAO

#

swe @ imc prolly not that difficult

shadow estuary
#

u prob need to be cracked to consistenly pass top processes tho

short patio
#

interviews are rng

#

what's new

#

same as for regular swe

#

just that the bar is way lower for swe at tech

shadow estuary
#

its similiar difficulty in question complexity u just can get asked more imo

#

thats y u need to be cracked to consistently pass

#

this kind of depends on ur current financial situation/value matrix for what good full time job looks like

#

imo a decent path is doing quant for a few years to set up solid savings and doing something more chill/interesting after based on burnout levels

#

but again its a very personal q

royal forge
shadow estuary
#

can u read the rest of what I said and point out what u disagree on?

#

seems pretty basic to me

runic grotto
royal forge
#

what do you consider quant?

#

= akuna?

shadow estuary
#

most people are silly, they think passing the interview is the whole battle, but a lot wouldnt be able to last at any of these firms for a year because median output is so high and efficient, even if its compressed in 45~ hrs

shadow estuary
royal forge
shadow estuary
#

since im mostly talking about swe i dont think i need to outline companies im talking about, they all have pretty similiar processes bar outliars

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i mean

#

ive been through js/hrt/cit processes, and have had friends go through others

#

it can all be diluted to the same pattern of what you might see

shadow estuary
#

reminds me of that mit grad that got clowned on cause he was complaining about working at google with like no name schools lmao

#

sure but u cant complain if u cant get anything better

#

u dont belong anywhere "better"

rose holly
mystic sandal
#

for people who did swe interviews at trading firms, did you do them in python or c++

royal forge
opaque sable
mystic sandal
# opaque sable c++ (had to)

would you mind telling me which company that is?
trying to decide wether or not to do my leetcode grind this year in python or c++

royal forge
mystic sandal
#

Gotcha, thank you for the answers!

opaque sable
#

Np

fast gazelle
#

@rose holly can i get jane street referral

shadow estuary
#

i like how ppl take some list from a random person at microsoft so seriously

#

this mf is def an intern too

rose holly
weary path
#

yeah also found it weird to be so into trading-companies as a SWE, but i guess the money is also a factor

#

anyone know about the radix reddit psyops rumour/conspiracy?

long raft
winged magnet
#

Bro thinks he's a psychologist šŸ’€

#

it's not that deep

#

people are in cs for money, trading companies pay a lot of money

#

the ones that are glorified do pay more for ng

#

nobody's on here glorifying random 2 person firms

#

mostly nobody*

weary path
long raft
broken thorn
royal forge
#

nobody here is simping over the mid ones šŸ˜‚

uncut steeple
uncut steeple
#

it does sound bad

#

FAANG should exclusively hire from the cs dept at t5

#

says G has ~20k swe employees

#

if 15% of those are entry, that's 3k

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theres more than 3k CS grads at HYPMSC

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columbia is not hypmsc dawg

rain quiver
#

Caltech.

uncut steeple
#

I mean it's a good idea

#

why not

rain quiver
short patio
#

yeah nobody calls Uchicago C

#

and also nobody talks about caltech because what, they matriculate 20 kids per year?

lost stratus
#

Do you have a list of firms that do?

rose holly
#

Pay doesnā€™t matter, just do what you like doing šŸ¤©

wraith wolf
#

e*ros šŸ¤®

opaque sable
#

we made you

slender gulch
#

The callout is crazy

wraith wolf
#

Oh yeah Iā€™m so diligent

#

And not about to fall asleep

slender gulch
#

Nice to see you paying attention in systems fundamentals @cursive violet

uncut steeple
#

ok if the interviewer sells the firm at the end but says 'nice talking to you' what does it mean

#

damn

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ok let's go team šŸš€ šŸš€šŸš€

#

bread by tomorrow

mystic sandal
#

does anyone know if there is a certain type of project that would help to stand out for trading/quant? if so could you give some examples please

scenic bison
#

Full stack todo app

mystic sandal
#

so funny

scenic bison
rugged rampart
#

Calculator

devout spruce
stark crow
mystic sandal
lost leaf
#

trading bot

lost leaf
#

i go to abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

lost leaf
#

congrats on yale!

stark crow
#

all these new fangled acronyms

#

mfw the first time I ever heard of this was from @opaque abyss

weary path
#

probably just a random rumor/conspiracy but peaked my interest

lost stratus
#

What are all the firms that pay more than tech?

#

Why?

#

I still want to know though

broken thorn
lost stratus
uncut steeple
#

undisputed t1

static musk
#

comments on the article are so funny

nocturne estuary
#

Peter Griffin

lost stratus
barren steeple
rose holly
#

hello smart people

leaden temple
#

Anyone know if cubist hackathon is worth going to

rose holly
#

do y'all think quantshops will start using rust

last herald
#

I think a few already do

short patio
rose holly
last herald
#

main issue with rust is that it's not always clear how a line of code gets compiled down

short patio
short patio
#

and rust is performant anyway

last herald
#

yeah, but you can't do the regular performance engineering you do on C++

#

but yeah it's very useful for things that are not latency sensitive

rose holly
#

rust is actually faster in terms of performance

last herald
#

yeah rust can definitely be faster than C++

rose holly
#

we learned it in school

#

its pre mid

#

but i keep hearing great things about it

#

i think its overhyped

#

ya i agree

last herald
#

borrow checking guarantees are very powerful

rose holly
#

interesting

last herald
#

but yeah most people don't need those

rose holly
last herald
rose holly
#

šŸ’€

last herald
#

me when complicated C++ project

rose holly
#

ya it makes sense

#

unless they retire

#

tldr would be: smarter and better mfs have already perfected c++

last herald
#

modern C++ is very nice and most of those old-timers won't be comfortable with it

rose holly
#

well perfected would be the wrong word here

#

"mastered"

rose holly
last herald
#

show them a concept and they will cry

#

no one actually knows C++

#

anyone who claims to is lying

#

I have spoken to people that write the standard and they don't even understand half of it

#

shit is just so feature packed and complicated

rose holly
#

thats basiclly where rust comes in

#

its not as complicated to learn

#

but has its own hurdles

#

rust is easier to write imo

#

c++ can get messy asf for me sometimes

#

im not a great programmer tho

last herald
#

honestly the borrow checker only really gets upset at you if you're doing something recursive

rose holly
#

as an intern yes

last herald
#

otherwise it's just a skill issue

rose holly
#

but it wasnt rust or c++

#

na im past that phase bruh

#

im not that noob

#

ya thats why i asked u guys

#

i didnt know that

#

which kind of defeats the whole point i guess

#

the other features become gimics

#

:void:

#

how come

#

lack of libs?

#

oh isee

#

its not mature like spring for example

#

i see

#

well thats good to know, ty for the insight dawg

#

really appreciate the honest and constructive info

#

most mfs online just repeat what they hear online

rose holly
#

yo

#

Dr Aight

#

i thought it was a real ping

#

but it turns it out its u

#

It was

#

:void:

#

(void *)

#

v funny

#

why are u casting it to a void pointer

#

I want to

royal forge
rose holly
royal forge
rose holly
#

noob

#

i work with jim simon

#

u work at his company like a cuck

#

we're not teh same

royal forge
trim trout
#

Does anyone know anything about Radix trading?

#

I mean info about the company itself lol

royal forge
#

yeah the first thing you should know about is the main pipeline^

trim trout
#

What's the main pipeline?

#

But again, what kind of a firm are they?

keen grove
#

trading

scenic bison
#

trading

rose holly
quasi orbit
keen grove
#

lol I wish

quasi orbit
#

jump?

keen grove
#

I am doing an REU

rugged rampart
#

Umd

lost stratus
trim trout
#

Their website doesn't have much

lost stratus
trim trout
#

Swe

#

In full honesty, idk why they emailed me

trim trout
lost stratus
trim trout
#

Thanks for the info, I'm not that well versed in quant companies

empty meteor
lost stratus
#

^

trim trout
#

..i dont

#

Thats whats funny to me

quasi orbit
#

ur ex snowflake tho

lost stratus
trim trout
#

Waterloo

#

Might be a target?

empty meteor
#

Incoming radix

empty meteor
#

Quants seem to like to hire swe from Loo, for some reasons

lost stratus
trim trout
#

We work too hard for less money

empty meteor
#

That's at least my observation

trim trout
#

Mine as well

trim trout
#

Anyways, thanks for the info everyone, though they still seem very secretive

obtuse flame
lost stratus
#

how do people get jobs like this

Screen_Shot_2023-04-13_at_10.04.28_AM.png
#

same person^

Screen_Shot_2023-04-13_at_10.04.45_AM.png
long raft
#

Donā€™t underestimate how hard it is to organise quality food for a lot of people. Itā€™s not like ā€œgo to restaurant X and buy 3 candy barsā€

rose holly
short patio
short patio
scenic bison
#

šŸ’€

broken thorn
#

the food services equivalent of finance dream

raw glen
#

if you dont mind me askig

broken thorn
#

IB->startup->hedge fund

raw glen
#

i did an reu with usc last year - realized academia full- time wasn't for me because of it but still loved the experience

keen grove
#

Algebra and combinatorics šŸ˜šŸ˜

stark crow
#

Math WazowskiStare

keen grove
#

y'all mfs wanna go into quant and don't like math

#

Cringe

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Guys I got this recruiter message

#

For a quant firm

keen grove
#

"for a quant firm"

nocturne estuary
#

Yeah

#

Anyone heard of it

#

They must be really successful if they are giving away so much money

broken thorn
#

i made .3 eth! thanks!

#

success is about giving back

broken thorn
#

money add then multiply they call that mafemafemadics

long raft
#

This!

scenic bison
#

who tf is clicking on that

lost stratus
#

Okay, idk where i said that tho

keen grove
#

It isn't

#

God forbid someone doesn't want to do the underpaid work that is academia

broken thorn
#

truly charity work

rose holly
#

@split lintel yo

split lintel
rose holly
#

JUDAH

split lintel
#

šŸ„¹

rose holly
#

wait judah where are you going this summer

split lintel
#

googChan šŸ‘©ā€ā¤ļøā€šŸ‘Øtodd

rose holly
#

I only knew your last summer and fall

split lintel
#

I am going home

rose holly
#

oh are you starting full time

split lintel
#

How about u mr coopah?

rose holly
#

I am returning to undisclosed firm

#

where are you starting full time at

split lintel
rose holly
#

oh are you just taking the summer off

#

because you already have so many internships

#

šŸ

weary path
split lintel
weary path
#

šŸ¤”was told by them that they donā€™t hire interns only ft, damn i got scammed

split lintel
#

Art does the impossible

weary path
#

i cant even do the possible šŸ˜­

rose holly
#

this is me

split lintel
#

Should i get chick fil a or mod pizza?

rose holly
#

i took this video last year

weary path
#

ofc chick fil a man

rose holly
#

mod pizza?

#

discord pizza

split lintel
weary path
#

chicken is pnl

#

chicken too good man

split lintel
#

Im going on a bulk

#

Ok chick time

weary path
#

šŸ“ˆšŸ“ˆšŸ“ˆ

rose holly
lost stratus
uncut steeple
#

not a good time man

#

i'm probably going to start pulling a reverse uno and keep the interview terse if it's not going well

short patio
#

what's insight

#

like some pe shop?

#

oh shit

#

gigachad

#

do you wanna work in finance tho

#

wdym nothing

#

it's just a different field

#

correct

#

and then when carry starts hitting

#

you'll be making millions

#

you sweat for 5-10 years

#

then gigarich at 40

#

easily pulling like multi imllions a year

#

in terms of technical challenge sure

#

but once you move up probably interesting

#

different skillsets

#

you're not making dashboards anymore

#

why would you go qa on sellside vs buyside

obtuse flame
#

Who? dogesmile

#

I need tea

obtuse flame
#

he's talking about the summer vc analyst program, it's different

uncut steeple
#

dont they kick you out for non-partner track to do an MBA

#

then you get recruited again

#

also not sure how accurate this is but apparently below VP doesnt have carry

#

this is coming from someone with 0 exp. in the field of PE but it seems like theres a nontrivial amount of asskissing involved

amber geyser
#

anyone know what the akuna trader first interview is like

old shore
#

trader or qt

amber geyser
#

trader

old shore
#

it's been two years but

#

few mental math quetions

#

and some fairly standard dice roll/probability qs

amber geyser
#

what kind of mental math?

cerulean elm
#

Got a job as a quant dev disguised as quant analyst at a BB

#

How to translate this grad role to an actual quant trader / analyst role

weary path
cerulean elm
#

Transfer roles etc

#

Is it finished for me career wise if I'm a sell side quant?

weary path
cerulean elm
#

I'm guessing

#

Esp as I have exp being swe @ buy side prop shop b4

weary path
main gyro
short patio
main gyro
#

Ahh. Got it. Thanks :)

lost stratus
runic grotto
#

Does it matter if I put quant dev vs swe for a job title on my resume?

keen grove
#

That's like $2 in freedom dollars

short patio
runic grotto
#

Not a bad idea

#

Thanks

short patio
#

Like no tech firm cares that I did this trading comp but quant firm might

runic grotto
#

Fair enough

lost stratus
#

Added 3 more firms

Aigen Investment Management
http://www.aigen-im.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/aigen-im/
SQS Trading
https://www.sqs.cx/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sqs-trading/
Hyperion Decimus
https://www.hyperiondecimus.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/hyperiondecimus

anyone heard of these?

Homepage

Aigen Investment Management, LP is a global investment management firm that employs diversified systematic strategies to deliver consistent investment returns to our capital partners.

SQS Trading

SQS Trading is a quantitative trading firm. We use algorithms to make markets in crypto.

Hyperion Decimus
Hyperion Decimus
#

also Aigen IM seems to be hiring interns

opaque sable
#

hyperion decimus gotta be the coolest name of any firm

broken thorn
lost stratus
#

Hyperion is the god of truth, wisdom, and light and Decimus is the name of the general that turned, and fought against Rome.

runic grotto
keen grove
#

Anyone here have experience applying to these places as a graduating senior who is going to go to grad school

#

Idk what to do for stuff like grad year and not getting thrown into full time pool

last herald
keen grove
#

I'll be in the middle of applying

last herald
#

skill issue

keen grove
last herald
#

would prolly ask a recruiter

#

properly, the cit recruiter you asked did not understand your question lol