#Big Rebalance Concept

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unkempt knoll
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Behind mauler n atlas

opaque current
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but that's on direct 1v1s

unkempt knoll
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Lasso spam It can 1v1 any Titan except atlas probs
Its just not that good when brawling several Titans

opaque current
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It's a ravana titan tbh

unkempt knoll
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Thats its weakness rly

unkempt knoll
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Visp works and pairs too well w lasso

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Its balanced tho Imo

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High skill cap so

opaque current
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But game impact wise it's not as potent as a mauler, or even a bersag

unkempt knoll
opaque current
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the ability to delete a threat for the team in little time is very decisive in matches

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what indra does, and does extremely well, is acting as a zoning titan for enemies not letting them push

unkempt knoll
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My Indra has been able to kill 4 Titans
Being
2 maulers
1 bersags vendis
And a luchador
On 1v1s before eventually dying

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It deffo has a lot of ingame impact

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All of those were maxed btw

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Tho ill give u the fact that i had to predict the bersags vendi shots in the end otherwise id have died (was 300k HP w TRA active)

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But It still killed 3 titans

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In a 1v1

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Saying Indra cant have as much impact as bersag would be a wrong statement tbh

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Mauler i can understand
Dls too cracked

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Indra well played has as much Game impact as any titan ingame except atlas, ue Arthur and mauler

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Depends on the situation asw

opaque current
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Also timeframe matters

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the faster u can grt ur stuff done in battle the mpre impact it has

unkempt knoll
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No titan ingame can withstand the firepower of mauler + 1 or 2 other Titans unless theyre bjorn
Indra w visp
Or lucha

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And they wont be able to even survive for long enough after dl

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So yes
Indra is good for multiple Titans

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But no titan can win a 3v1

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Not even atlas

unkempt knoll
opaque current
unkempt knoll
unkempt knoll
opaque current
unkempt knoll
opaque current
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just dont let anyone get on ur back

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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If its a 3v1

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Atlas wont be able to take out the 3 if they play It well

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I have killed atlases w Indra and a mauler or luchadors Who helped
Quite easily

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2v1

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And atlas couldnt pull It off

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Atlas cant pull off a 3v1 if the Titans play it well

opaque current
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one tapping an enemy has much more battle impact than killing it over 20 seconds

opaque current
opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Specifically with huggins they seem to be able to damage atlas sometimes
Might be a Bug
But happens to me constantly lol

unkempt knoll
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Atlas isnt a ranger

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He'd have to get close again

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And eventually die

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To lasso

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Whilst the other Titan tanks

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And also does some dmg once shields are turned off

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unkempt knoll
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And Guess what

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One of maulers most popular builds IS huggins

unkempt knoll
opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Lasso has a min range of 250m
And only breaks at 350m

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And if Indra just follows atlas w visp

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It just wont be enough w the atlas jump

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To get away lmao

opaque current
unkempt knoll
opaque current
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it'd be like if i now know how to consistently replicate the infinite aegis bug and say aopo raven is now the best bot in the game

unkempt knoll
opaque current
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Not rly

unkempt knoll
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Ones easy to do (huggins one)
And happens consistently

opaque current
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non intended interactions

unkempt knoll
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And the others quite difficult to pull off

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Not the same

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Ones rly relevant ingame

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Whilst the other only happens in specific situations

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Hence why its just not as relevant

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Huggins Glitch isnt situational

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And happens a lot

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unkempt knoll
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I use huggins Indra
This happens every single match

unkempt knoll
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If a Glitch which changes ingame mechanics happens a lot then It is relevant

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So

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Either way u'd be admitting huggins Glitch IS relevant

opaque current
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It is relevant while it lasts, which is a completely unknown amouny of time

opaque current
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Which is why it shouldnt be included in a performance analysis

unkempt knoll
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By then

opaque current
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I have no clue how they plan to tune it down ngl

unkempt knoll
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So yes its quite a relevant interaction if u ask me

unkempt knoll
opaque current
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nothing can prevent it from simply turning sideways and becomming immune to all non shieldbreaker dmg

unkempt knoll
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The kit Will probs make It a potential top 3 titan unless they kill its stats

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With stats i mean It being unable to jump every 2 secs
And making It jump every 10 secs or so
When its on the ground

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That would honestly tune It down

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Also if void/Chasm get nerfed that Will contribute asw since its probs atlases BEST build atm

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And one of the reasons why its immortal / unkillable (melts everything except tankier Titans)

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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No other titan weapons insta kill

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Like voids do so yeah

opaque current
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a nerf to the same weapon everyone uses is just a brawler archetype nerf, not an atlas specific one

unkempt knoll
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Not like im surprised they made voids absolutely op but

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Making them release alongside An unkillable titan seems a little too much

opaque current
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or ue arthur with ue grom

unkempt knoll
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This Will specifically and mostly change its interactions with Indra
Funny enough lmao

opaque current
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not the actual effectiveness

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The feeling of it

unkempt knoll
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If void gets nerfed It being atlases BEST build its not nerfing "feelings"

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Theres no
"Feelings" or "how something feels" when It comes to meta

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Its either performance or not

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If atlases BEST build gets nerfed its AN indirect nerf to atlas itself

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Atlas with any brawling titan weapons that arent void/Chasm wouldnt be much of a problem compared to It w em

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Im afraid atlas w weapons that arent voids would underperform a lot compared to current atlas w void/chasm

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And would actually be killable indeed

opaque current
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given users came from mauler, which is peak whale power fantasy, a merely tanky titan wasnt gonna cut it for producing the same attatchment, they needed something that broke the game with dmg

opaque current
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imagine void gets removed

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then everyone goes to munnins, they all lose the same dmg

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it might actually be an atlas buff since atlas incomming dmg is entirely dependant on u not using ur brain for 2 seconds, the higher the burst, the higher the dmg u get there

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while the rest just eat dmg aside from indra while on ps

unkempt knoll
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Indra isnt voids/Chasm dependant

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It has lasso

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Neither is

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Mauler

opaque current
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I dont think it depends on void and chasm at all

unkempt knoll
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Ismt

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Isnt

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A Big problem for a team tbh

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Void/Chasm deal twice the damage

opaque current
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not sonics, u wouldnt be able to turn sideways when frontal absorber goes off and lose a lot of dps

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munnins would work tho

unkempt knoll
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We cant deny atlas getting a way bigger advantatge when being immortal since void/Chasm deal too much dmg

opaque current
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It definitely would

unkempt knoll
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Them being nerfed to the point where theyre similar to other brawlers weapons would be a heavy Direct Nerf to atlas

opaque current
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a jumping immortal titan with blind, emp, pinning, then lockdown with munnins, and good dmg

unkempt knoll
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Since its immortality would lose a lot of value

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If u get me

opaque current
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I dont se how that's not a big threat

unkempt knoll
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At all

opaque current
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Only if others have access to void and chasm

unkempt knoll
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Indra lassoing exists
Mauler doesnt need any specific weaps
Etc...

opaque current
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now, against ranged titans with devourer weapons yes it's a nerf

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but not only for atlas, to all brawlers

opaque current
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since all of them use voids

unkempt knoll
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Immortality would lose lotta value

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U dont seem to get me here

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If ur bot becomes invulnerable

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But the weapons themselves do meh damage

opaque current
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Erasing voids is like removing 40% of all brawler titans with weapons

unkempt knoll
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If theres sources of dmg

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That can bypass those shields

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Would potentially rival atlas

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So if u nerf voids By like 35% atlas would be unlikely to win as many interactions as rn

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Indra/mauler dont depend on weapons

opaque current
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aka pathfinder

unkempt knoll
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Indras main source of dmg Is lasso
Whilst mauler dl melts with anything

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So yeah

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Those wouldnt be affected BY voids nerf as much as atlas would

opaque current
# unkempt knoll No?

If everyone uses the same weapon and u remove it they are all forced to downgrade to the next best

unkempt knoll
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Because its main source of dmg Is void family

opaque current
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which currently for brawlers are munnins

unkempt knoll
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And process

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What i just said

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Some Titans source of dmg doesnt come specifically from voids

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But from their abilities

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Atlas has no ability that hardcarries It in terms of dmg

opaque current
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It is a big help, especially against tanks

unkempt knoll
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Without lasso Indra would suck

opaque current
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but u're still gonna do more weapon dmg than lasso unless everything u do is laso phase shift hide and wait 15 secs to repeat

unkempt knoll
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Why do u think an Indra can kill a bjorn with barely any Scratch?
Lasso spam whilst corner lassoing

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Literally why its op

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Or argued to be in some situations

opaque current
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Ofc u can use the hide n seek tactic

unkempt knoll
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Then u can ofc use ur weaps

opaque current
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but that usually is only viable if u can have the enemy not push into u with other titans or meta bots

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which doesnt happen that often

unkempt knoll
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And visp

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To lockdown

  • Get to cover faster w visp speed buffs
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And lasso also makes ya go slower

opaque current
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I used huggin with it, ended up switching to one munnin one chasm lne void

unkempt knoll
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So It is viable

opaque current
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(I'm lacking one chasm)

unkempt knoll
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I didnt have huggins before

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U dont need lockdown
But lockdown deffo helsp

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Helps*

opaque current
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i'm not interested on taking 2 minutes to kill one titan

unkempt knoll
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Ive only used when im low HP usually

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But It works insanely well when low

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U can deal tons of dmg whilst being 1 HP lmao

opaque current
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but when u have good ampunts of hp left u wanna use ur baseline tankiness and bait the enemy into using their abilities, then u phaseshift

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Same thing u do with a ravana

unkempt knoll
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This IS getting too off topic from the main thing

opaque current
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and have lasso be both a bonus and a buffer with pilot skills

unkempt knoll
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Atlas would be affected more than Indra/mauler w a voids nerf

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And its undeniable

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Because atlas just doesnt have a consistent source of dmh

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That isnt its weaps

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Now

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Im not saying It would make It die entirely ofc
It would still be meta probs

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But if It was to get nerfed

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That would be a good way tbh

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That + cd on jump would make It balanced

opaque current
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If u have a downtime absorber based tankiness u want the weapons the enemy has access to to not be too bursty

unkempt knoll
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Mauler rn if well played can kill atlas tbf so yea

opaque current
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otherwise a mistake costs u a lot more and u're more prone to die, which should be atlas' main trait

unkempt knoll
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Overall a nerf to voids/Chasm
And cd
Would make It killable tbh

opaque current
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Chasm nerf will come, but it will be a nerf to the overall brawler archetype since their incomming dmg will get nerfed

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which will probably see an increase in popularity of bersags (unless they get nerfed due to already being very popular), and maybe eiffels and ue mings

opaque current
unkempt knoll
opaque current
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Mauler would impact it, but not from a 1v1 perspective

unkempt knoll
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Since its melting anything anyways

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If there was to be a rly tanky titan as in
Has a lot of dp or reflector in the meta

opaque current
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what it would decrease is the ease it would have to burst down multiple enemies within dl duration

unkempt knoll
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It would get affected

opaque current
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a nerf to dl is also very likely to happen

smoky palm
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Bulava/Kisten +66% is risky but reasonable if explosive AoE radius is untouched

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Overall this is peak

vocal vector
vocal vector
smoky palm
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Good point, it’s risky but fair.

vocal vector
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Bruh the post died again

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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TS

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Im GONNA COMMIT SERIOUS WARCRIMES

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WHATTTT

rigid hearth
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wait what

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fr?

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tf u mean they buffed samjok

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I could see condor being buffed tbh bc its abiltiy kinda useless

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but samjok needs to go

vocal vector
unkempt knoll
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i mean

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they did nerf ue sword

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thats not visual...

rigid hearth
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bump

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+bbuff mender hp and healing

uncut solar
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"down all and up my robots"

vocal vector
rigid hearth
vocal vector
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Oh look, someone undisliked the post

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They got crept that my rebalance is better than pixo

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😂

unkempt knoll
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Indra didnt need a nerf at all and It got the harshest one out of all the Titans wtf are we doing 💔

unkempt knoll
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Yall can have wr for urselves Lmao 😅

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Im quitting...

vocal vector
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This rebalance is just too much even for pixonic

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They screwed up the whole game

unkempt knoll
vocal vector
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95% of F2P stuff is getting nerfed

vocal vector
vocal vector
unkempt knoll
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Thats why im quittin
Playing the Games pointless

vocal vector
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WR is cooked

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Idk if u know but PG3D, that thing is cooked too

vocal vector
vocal vector
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Like man wtf is pixo thinking

quick wolf
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Bro

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That would be all, than youtopkek

worn zinc
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Make this the rewl rebalance 😭

vocal vector
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When the new rebalance goes out there is no way i can fix it with this post

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The damage will be too much

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Honestly its time to quit

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I reget spending all of those few bucks in this game that i did

compact rover
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Wow the best fucking time to get one

tranquil rain
vocal vector
outer cypress
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BUFF SAMJOK

outer cypress
vocal vector
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Its melting my brain

outer cypress
quick wolf
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I got muted a day ago for very well deserved bashing

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Highly predatory game

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The rebalance will fix nothing

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But just start a new power creep almost immediately like always

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And of course they didn't nerf boom

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Of course they nerfing huginn mununn so bad to to make some fools run towards those new ue titan weapons

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They put our 15 wins for a Doritos and I still don't even want to play this game

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Why indra
Why huruki
Shai for no reason

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Nerfed reapers for no reason

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And oh they had to buff ue vortex
But nerf the only few good ue weapons I have

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Only sensible thing to do rn is to buy 25 cossacks

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And delete ever robot ue or weapon on my account to ensure I delete this app and never return to the vampires

vocal vector
nimble onyx
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About Indra nerf. If they are going this far and this personall on the only titan that I have found joy in, at least give it a 5 second vipassana duration, like on the previous scrapped nerf

tranquil rain
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since this is the first test server with the rebalance its most likely to change

vocal vector
opaque current
opaque current
unkempt knoll
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The other stats were nerfed
HP basically Stayed the same

opaque current
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U pay a company for something bad is the same as giving a child a candy every time they cry, u teach them that behavior gets them a reward so they will keep doing it

unkempt knoll
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Atp pixonic might be potentially ruining themselves
If somebody decided to Sue them, i wouldnt be surprised about it

opaque current
unkempt knoll
unkempt knoll
opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Pixonic has gone too far

opaque current
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and unnecessary

unkempt knoll
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Nerfing luchador and Indra and getting them to t3s btw

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Theyve just contradicted themselves

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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They said t4s were bots that performed well in upper leagues
And that a bot isnt changed to t3 unless they underperform

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Guess what

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Both luchador and Indra perform well in every league ingame

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Ugh people rly gotta understand the difference between objective and subjective knowledge...

unkempt knoll
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When this is just wrong Because the law itself sais that predatory systems like these can be illegal?

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Its just objectively wrong

opaque current
unkempt knoll
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Its the las

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Law*

opaque current
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it will help u big time in this industry

unkempt knoll
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Not spending a single dime

opaque current
opaque current
opaque current
opaque current
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just barely, but still legal (pretty much bc the illegal part cant be realistically proven in court by a particular)

opaque current
# unkempt knoll Law*

There is a 1000 ways to make the kind of business model they make exploiting grey areas in the law systems

unkempt knoll
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They probs wont care

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But uhm

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Yeah thats buns

unkempt knoll
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But perhaps exploiting those can also be found illegal when in court asw

opaque current
# unkempt knoll They probs wont care

Not exactly. Most manipulation tactics dont exactly exploit flaws in rational thinking, they recreate situations in which it is inhibited by emotions or impulses, usually without the victim being aware of it

opaque current
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issue with this is regulations are reactive and slow. By the time they come into action, companies have already claimed most of the profit and are already adapting a new way to exploit the new grey areas for at least the next 2 years

vocal vector
vocal vector
vocal vector
vocal vector
vocal vector
vocal vector
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This test server was the least diverse of all test servers i have played

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Guess why XD

unkempt knoll
# opaque current Doesnt happen often at all

Its possible to Sue them for predatory systems though
And yes It doesnt happen often
But not Because of the law being permissive but rather Because theyre just a Big company
And most the time, theyll have the upper hand

opaque current
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by itself, if no other change is made, is a buff

opaque current
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so that ppl see it as something "not that bad" when ut arrives because they were expecting something worse and therefore are more open to it

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just another use of overton window

vocal vector
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Dont u know how dirty they are?

vocal vector
vocal vector
opaque current
vocal vector
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This will be the 2nd game

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And i think a 3rd game is coming soon too (Cough cough clash royale’s lvl 16)

vocal vector
spiral jasper
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I agree with these bro I support you

vocal vector
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^^ Heres my YT channel if u want to see vids which are longer than 1min from me

quick wolf
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They are just liers

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T4 titans perform decently as t4 titans

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They want to nerf then to t3

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Then make ue versions because ue versions are for bots that cannot perform

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It's a cycle of robbery

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Then on they realize putting them t3 would remove intel

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So just nerf

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I still cannot believe indra getting nerfs

vocal vector
quick wolf
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I wouldn't mind the normal titan nerfs if pixonic didn't release titan that are literally invincible everytime they come out.
There are no reason to justify the nerfs just people to have nothing

vocal vector
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Screw this game

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Squad busters and HCR2 are way better

unkempt knoll
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They put Indra back to t4 but didnt revert any of the nerfs

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💔

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(they nerfed It even more)

vocal vector
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Real💀

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Im so done with this game

quick wolf
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The indra nerf is still strange
I haven't faced any absurd amounts of Indras in comparison to other titans

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It's always mostly Maulers, and I even see more luchadors and rooks

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A single indra in between that would play s bit cautiously

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Guessing most people don't run Indra even if maybe having one because it takes skill to time it

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But I said this already

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It comes of as if the dev team have no real idea how strong or weak Indra really is but the fact that they vaguely heard some people on discord mention it was decent

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They just hit it with s ton of random nerfs on everything

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Tbh, an attempt to get away with something like that would be consequencial to the future of wr

vocal vector
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Darklight got so strong

unkempt knoll
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They reverted mauler nerfs and made It stay basically the same but made Indra suck

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(Indra wasnt even meta)

vocal vector
vocal vector
compact rover
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They don't even play their own game

vocal vector
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Live server is unplayable

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And TS is only about spamming the same meta crap setups

spiral jasper
quick wolf
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Imagine nerfing Eiffel

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Luchador

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Indra

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Hard enough those just barely holding on each meta, but they want to eliminate them

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I will bet my eternal soul on hell for ever and ever they doing that to release those titans in ue form

quick wolf
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I mean I had an Eiffel almost maxed, I stop used it cause of how focused it is in the sky, I got tired of playing titans that need to run away every second

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Even sold it

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Guess I made the right choice

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Then removing durability from Rook🤨? I mean Rook 😑?

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To me rook kinda suck, but even if they have one good game against me I not going to lose my mind over it

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Just can't let the old titans be at all

near flower
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Who are you talking to🥲

quick wolf
near flower
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They not gonna listen😔

quick wolf
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Never forget pixonic nerf Kid because I use to see a lot of those in champs and masters

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Back even kid had modules

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It was quite useable

near flower
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It's still usable there is just better options

spiral jasper
quick wolf
unkempt knoll
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Like i can understand why u'd nerf mauler maybe
But ROOK?!

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What did rook DO

vocal vector
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Fr

spiral jasper
near flower
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How is nodens doing🥹

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So if they want newer titans to be monetized, why is luchador, indra, and rook almost always in the special offers?

flint ginkgo
near flower
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Oh that's smart for marketing, but Terrible for players😂

flint ginkgo
near flower
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Lol ateast they do tons of gift marathons and give aways

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Recently they've been giving data pads like Halloween candy

flint ginkgo
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They’ve only just started doing this.

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Ive been benefiting from it.

near flower
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I don't really keep the bots i get

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I despise them so I sell them

spiral jasper
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Hey @vocal vector

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I hope you’ll be ready tomorrow to be my Nuo teammate

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Tonans must work or you can delete them from the game entirely and it would make no difference

vocal vector
spiral jasper
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The problem is that I’ll be able to play half an hour them I’ll go to school

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But we can play afterwards when it opens again

vocal vector
flint ginkgo
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Thats like my 6th one…

quick wolf
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Honestly in still in denial of Rook and Indra nerf

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I kinda expected Eiffel nerf cause people where posting chain killing maulers, but I honestly don't see what in stuff like luch to nerf

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Lower jump means less shield time I guess

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Truly disgusting

near flower
quick wolf
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Because of how teth is I guess it will be usable after several nerfs

near flower
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It's already very usable it will just be less of a headache to deal with

quick wolf
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I officially quit, uninstalled, gone, if some of the nerf go through to live, I'll leave this server too

brittle warren
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Ao Jun also needs 500m ability range and maybe make cooldown like 16 second instead although you can disagree with me, maybe fire rate of flames traveling is also increased

brittle warren
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But I also agree with the statement on stealth when exiting and entering

brittle warren
vocal vector
vocal vector
brittle warren
brittle warren
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So it’s more versatile

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Because I feel like it sucks that you have to get to 350m because then you don’t want to be too close you rather shoot further because when u land close to your enemy and you end up getting killed

vocal vector
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Ok

vocal vector
brittle warren
vocal vector
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Added both Ao Jun range and Behemoth hp buff

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Also i have updated the values to 11.6 ones

brittle warren
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Yeah it only makes sense to add these

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All those robots sucked for along time

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I know there’s ultimate versions but the regulars should still be treated with some variety

vocal vector
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Yep

late meadow
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bulwark need brawler path

near flower
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My little child ao qin needs some love🥹

finite shadow
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Continuing to ask for an extension to the Hook effect's duration is a complete joke; it's as if they don't understand how the Mauler's defensive system works. The DOT conversion can last 10 seconds or it can be infinite, but with such a poor DOT damage reduction as that 30/25%, it will eventually die from the DOT itself

spiral jasper
late meadow
spiral jasper
late meadow
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dd

spiral jasper
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It’s the best pathway so far what you want the brawler pathway for it

near flower
spiral jasper
near flower
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They do actually, not only are old bots literally still advertised they still receive buffs or nerfs they just don't want them to be meta because that's bad for their economy especially since the power creep problem it would be terrible for business if old bots could perform in the same league as the meta

flint ginkgo
near flower
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Yes

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Any game that has the slightest power creep the new bots always are way better than old ones

unkempt knoll
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They reverted indras biggest nerf

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Lasso's

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Might nor be this bad...

solemn lichen
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pixo needs do to this rebalance mhmdaddy

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quick wolf
quick wolf
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Pix acting like that would turn the tide of battle

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But it just there to hide the fact they nerfing everything

vocal vector
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Yuh

spiral jasper
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How much is that gonna last for I wonder this’s enough dude money isn’t easy to get

quick wolf
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Nerfs are live

near flower
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So are the buffs

quick wolf
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I was always using ue blaze dementer before tho

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Them other buff not all that significant to matter

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I'd even prefer they just leave Demeter alone

lone quiver
# quick wolf Of course they nerfing huginn mununn so bad to to make some fools run towards th...

I will keep using the single Huginn I have (kept it lvl 1 out of fear for some new disrespect like this and also because I wanted a return of the 150 m chain range) on the single Baihu Luchador I have (semi maxed) and just graciously let some enemies farm me for damage atp topkek. It still looks cool (Pix is not unfamiliar with the concept of nerfing looks too, but that level of disdain is a bit too on the nose) and chasing high leagues clearly lost its significance long ago due to such disrespect so yea, Pix won't be squeezing any money out of me or any of the friends I squad/talk with who seem to agree.

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quick wolf
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People that saying teth balanced should be in jail

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The community is even more frustrating than pixonic

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And the new Pilum and the new dot weapons are really really broken

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Just like pixonic wanted, nerf my whole hanger just to have weapons that kill you in a fraction of the clip

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Honestly, I should never start back playing

autumn scroll
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Still going

vocal vector
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Ofc

quick wolf
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Yooo

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Wish they'd unnerf beholder

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It's been like a year

vocal vector
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Same as Keel

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Its ridiculous that a MS can take out most of ur bots or half of your titan’s hp