Flight Sims (DCS Excluded)

[real breach]

does maintenance just... not work? i paid 27,000 credits to move my landing gear from "to maintain" to "good", and absolutely nothing happened

[crude vault]

Your own corporation?

Would wish, or i dont know if it exists for the computer to autocalculate fuel when a flightplan is entered

Having ro manually calculate fuel for the flight is fair enough in the 172 so its not critical

but got two hour fuel for an hours flight remaninig so im all good in the hood

[real breach]

the fuel in career is completely broken. even if you calculate it, it won't actually be added to the plane. the only solution is to bind the "add fuel" button. otherwise you will simply hit fuel exhaustion on longer missions

[real breach]

the maintenance is extremely confusing and not at all explained. there's some kind of "delegated maintenance" that appears to just be a money black hole. but you can also click on individual components and they'll be fixed

[crude vault]

Im still good in the hood really

[real breach]

i can't profitably run a freelance op, though. i chose the X Cub and it's impossible to land because every mission has 70,000 mph winds. it's like tryind to land inside a tumble dryer

[real breach]

the DHC-2 missions are all impossible that thing guzzles fuel

every approach is so unstable i just bounce around and crash. getting really frustrated

i'm 80% insured but somehow it only paid out like 6k for my 33k repair

[crude vault]

finally

Ive flown the small cessna for long enough.

[crude vault]

If youre flying a light aircraft flying in bad windy weather will do that for you

[real breach]

i mean the missions are what they are, i don't have any choice. and all of them say "calm" but it's like flying in a hurricane

[crude vault]

man it feels good to fly something with a bit more power. The caravan is oh so nice over the puny little cessna skyhawk

btw for those of you hwo know, what is an "inertial seperator"?

[crude vault]

You might be correct there

This crosswind is going to make me miss my target

Honestly im not even sure flying in a 60 knot crosswind at 13k is even viable

[crude vault]

Had to abort that mission worth 40k. The conditions was beyond waht the caravan and its autopilot could handle

[vagrant dune]

it's a device in the intake of the engine to separate things with low inertia (i.e. air) from things with high inertia (i.e. rocks) so you don't wreck your engine when you're close to the ground (at least that's my understanding of it)

[crude vault]

slingloading!

[viscid elk]

Man that's cool

[charred isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIMWse7Cec

[molten violet]

been working in the career mode this was my cpl

[crude vault]

Just wait until you get to the Jet age. Things be moving fast then

[crude vault]

tried to be like the cool swiss S&R pilots but apparently MFS was unhappy at my attempts

[real breach]

doing the high performance cert
instructor: "with more than 200 hp, this has to be the most powerful single-engine piston-powered plane you've ever flown!"
me: remembering the 2600 hp P-47....

[crude vault]

Finally!

[crude vault]

Took some time but i got there in the end!

[thorn nova]

Is it possible to turn off the voice of the instructor?

[crude vault]

Good question, and i have no idea

Took a while, but i got there. I have no interest in big plane stuff until much later!

[thorn nova]

Nicely done

[molten violet]

pick up some icing in 2024 on the c-172

today

[molten violet]

Later in the flight

[thorn nova]

Am I correct in assuming that all later qualifications after the PPL also costs currency?

[crude vault]

yep

[thorn nova]

How do you make more currency with just the PPL?

[crude vault]

Just the passenger transport jet airliner is 100,000cr

Well, you advance through career. Fly PPL for a bit, then get the CPL, then multi engine, turboengine, navigation and so on

[thorn nova]

Guess I should finish off the PPL and see

[crude vault]

what else did you think was going to happen?

[thorn nova]

Idk

I dont know how it works

[charred isle]

So first time really flying in msfs 2024 and getting a nice and steady 40-45 FPS in the fenix A319. Even on the ground it really only sagged down to 35 if I yanked the camera around

[viscid elk]

2024 got some serious potential

[vagrant dune]

this is how helicopters are supposed to be stored isn't it?

[thorn nova]

Looks good to me

[real breach]

i gave up on career mode for now, tired of being penalized for bugs. but free flight seems fine. can't wait for more of the 3rd party planes to be updated for 2024

[crude vault]

Yeah, looking forward to the H145 again. Question is if it will be compatible with career mode

[real breach]

the career mode plane roster is abysmal, i expected most of the 1st party planes to be included, but there's so many missing

[crude vault]

Yeah, alot of aircarfts are omitted from career for some reason!

update
https://www.flightsimulator.com/release-notes-1-1-10-0-available-now-msfs-2024/

[charred isle]

I'm waiting for blacksquare and PMDG to port over still.

[molten violet]

im waiting on the md-11 727 and a380

[charred isle]

iirc Aero Dynamics (guys working on a study level free ware KC-10/DC-10/MD-11) are gonna make it now for msfs 2024.

Also wouldn't surprise me if fly by wire ports their stuff over as well (A380).

From what some of the Msfs devs have said the 2024 SDK had some pretty nasty bugs

[molten violet]

i fly the TDFI md-11

[molten violet]

flying up the coast from KSBA to KSFO

[crude vault]

rumor is the 9th comes a patch, tomorrow. Hopefully that'll fix most of the common bugs!

[molten violet]

Will be interesting to see

[molten violet]

Forgot to check yesterday did we get a patch yesterday and if so free planes did they give us

[crude vault]

We didnt! No updates showing here. Last update was the 22 of november

[real breach]

isn't today update day?

iirc they're fixing the wind/turbulence in career mode, too-bright runway lights, and some crashes

[molten violet]

More interested in what free planes we are getting

[real breach]

oh i think they mentioned being able to locally install content now if you want to, so you don't have to keep re-streaming it

[crude vault]

Major update today! Update

https://www.flightsimulator.com/release-notes-1-2-7-0-available-now-msfs-2024/

[real breach]

Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan Ex Removed disrespectful markings from the medic cabin Removed logos that were not approved from the medic cabin

oh no, did they use the red cross logo without permission?

dang, that's a huge patch

[viscid elk]

Fully gearing up for msfs

Today my t flight pedals will arrive, full kit

[hoary vapor]

Fast pass and whisper pass with Echo19 SuperHornet sounds

[charred isle]

Getting my analog gauge fix for MSFS with black squares TBM850

[crude vault]

I wouldnt mind the old TBM850 without all the screens

[charred isle]

For black square you can go with either the old nav suite setup (ktx something like) or mix it with GNS530 or GTN750

[thorn nova]

You can change aircraft internals?

[charred isle]

With some devs they give you an option either on the fly or in liveries for different avionics. I was playing in msfs2020 and blacksquare gives you switches in the plane to change your comm/nav stack

[thorn nova]

Huh, thats cool

[charred isle]

Yeah it's nice depending on how you want to fly

[river sorrel]

beyondatc has rolled out traffic to all users 🙏

im too inept for vatsim so this is the good middle zone

[fading laurel]

I've been using it in Alpha before I kinda quit MSFS for a while. It was already pretty great and according to the release notes after that fixed most if not all the issues I found.
How is it now?

[river sorrel]

from my experience its seems pretty good

need to try the new update just downloaded it

might do a flight tonight or tmmr

[river sorrel]

ok did a flight (not a good one) its really cool with traffic tho

couldnt get autopilot to work just kept disconnecting

so i rage quit

[fading laurel]

Damn, that's annoying. But yeah can imagine.

Nice the traffic was nice. They actually space stuff now?

[molten violet]

Is beyondatc free to use or do you have to buy it I know it has premium voices that you can buy but is it otherwise free ?

[river sorrel]

idk i got it stuck by being infront of someone i shouldnt have

sat waiting on hold point for 20mins till i just went and the traffic drove thru me lol

[river sorrel]

i think you need to pay for the base application but can use free voices once you have it

[fading laurel]

It's a 30 euro's 1 time unlimited access.
You get some free premium characters, but even though I have the upgraded to the supporter package (an extra 30) I rarely use the premium voices.
If you fly offline most of the time I'd say it's great.
Traffic was just released for everyone.
You can actually even use "Push to talk" so actually talk to ATC.(can also click if it keeps misunderstanding). But it's great to practice your stuff before you go on Vatsim and stuff as well

The free voices are adequate imo.

[river sorrel]

agreed

[fading laurel]

Hahah damn xD

[river sorrel]

i have a pic

you can see i cut in front of the other speedbird 😂

[fading laurel]

They knew. They just made you wait for 30 minutes as punishment 😂

[river sorrel]

[molten violet]

Got a link for where I can buy and download it by any chance

[fading laurel]

https://www.beyondatc.net/pricing

This is the pricing page with some voice saples as well

[vagrant dune]

I wouldn't worry too much about going on vatsim! - you'll be better than the average pilot!

[fading laurel]

Oh no, I don't worry about it. I fly on it quite often (and never have gotten a complaint flying A330's into Munich and Heathrow during events).
But once in a while I do enjoy doing a little flight with just an AI talking back just to get up to speed again 🙂
Just saying it can be a great practice tool to just get comfortable with the phrasing and listening.

[vagrant dune]

ohh it is - but I do think vatsim is seen as a "you have to be amazing before you think about trying" which it really isn't

[fading laurel]

True.
And honestly, even the people that aren't great are helped just as much by the controllers.
I've rarely seen controllers lash out to fumbling peeps.. (even when I was about to).
(except in NA flights. Been a little more snarky there sometime)

[vagrant dune]

I'm just waiting for it to support VFR properly so I can use it for my helo stuff when there's no atc on vatsim

[fading laurel]

I requested an alternate departure once and I got like 2 controllers come down on me.
The first one berated me for a good 30 seconds about how he chose the departure that fit.
The second one came in to make sure I understood... was crazy

[vagrant dune]

exactly, while I have heard some sass on frequency it's generally not a problem if you're new

they also have the "first wings" events designed for such pilots

[vagrant dune]

that's insane - they're well within their rights to deny the request but they definitely shouldn't berate you for it

[fading laurel]

In Munich with about 30 incoming and 50 outgoing I asked for runway left instead of right due to it being closer to the cargo gates. left being the departure runway.
They understood, obliged and just made it work.

Of course anecdotal, but the contrast can be so big

[fading laurel]

Agreed ahhaha

[vagrant dune]

I guarantee they only approved that because it made their lives significantly easier

[fading laurel]

Exactly, in general the amount of patience is insane.
My tip for new people if they read this. Edinburgh is great.
Anywhere in Scandinavia is also great. They'll help you out and have the patience of a saint.

[fading laurel]

Most likely, but I liked how it was going.
Honestly, when I landed there were 8 aircraft holding short of the runway

[river sorrel]

i want to get into vatsim once i learn my aircraft more. flying out of edinburgh since its my closest airport

[vagrant dune]

edinburgh is amazing as a training airport - often has ATC - but isn't overwhelming like gatwick or heathrow are

[fading laurel]

NIce nice 🙂
I still want to do dual seater in an aircraft. Should try that some time ;p
Not sure how it works with vatsim

[vagrant dune]

manchester's also good

[fading laurel]

Ah yeah indeed

[river sorrel]

i could do good flying in the c25c

just do some runs in the UK

[vagrant dune]

I'll happily PM for a flight - given my setup only works for rotary PF would be tricky except in the cruise!

[river sorrel]

cant fly boeing well enough to do any cross ocean flights yet

[fading laurel]

Hahah gotcha

[fading laurel]

the North Sea ain't no ocean

I also just fly Airbus. Did boeing, but then started flying the a330 and it's great

[fading laurel]

But might take you up on that 😄

[vagrant dune]

it's fine, just fly BAW1 or BAW2 - 318 across the atlantic

[vagrant dune]

feel free, I don't do much tubeliner stuff so it'll make a bit of a change for me

[river sorrel]

for my reference you guys know any good beginner guides to vatsim

dont want to just go onto it and mess it up 😂

[fading laurel]

Gotcha, I normally fly DHL (Postman) with an a330-900 (cause there wasn't an -300)
So all the fancy tools airbus offers

[fading laurel]

Vatims own setup guide is pretty good.

And if you can follow along, predict and follow the BeyondATC flight you'll be fine I'm sure

[vagrant dune]

I would probably recommend the video series by aviation pro - it's old but still holds up

[river sorrel]

will check both these out thank you both ❤️

[vagrant dune]

and yeah, vatsim itself has lots of good materials

and otherwise, observe, watch twitch streams etc. - get used to the variations outside the book too

[river sorrel]

i think my end goal would be become a ATC on it but yeah thats a lot of learning so will take some time

[fading laurel]

We could do a nice flight. I'll PIC, Syntax PM(and comms) and you on the jumpseat. (Drinking allowed for all)

[river sorrel]

that would be cool

currently reading thru the new member orientation

[molten violet]

Thanks I’ll check it out when I get home later today

I’ve heard through friends of mine that fly on vatsim a lot that Europe controllers are better and less hateful than the US ones

[river sorrel]

i got one wrong cause im stupid lol

i think i need to do more learning now and then i can fly

like another exam

[fading laurel]

Ah nice, don't sweat it.
The exam was harder than my first flight xD

[molten violet]

Don’t feel bad I had to take it twice fail my first time

[fading laurel]

@river sorrel @vagrant dune
A nice flight tonight on Vatsim would be Frankfurt (EDDF) - Riga (EVRA) or vice versa. About 2 hour block time.
Both should be fully controlled with events going on.

Ah sorry, didn't mean to ping syntax as he can only fly heli's andthat might be a little far

But it is a nice flight.
Generally I think it's worth doing long flights at the start. 2 hours. Get yourself a lot of time to review the approach etc.

[river sorrel]

im cleaning up my room rn dont know when i will be done its a state

i should be free in the weekend tho if you are

[fading laurel]

Hahaha, all good 🙂
Just saw the events and thought I'd drop it

Hmm I'm thinking, I don't even have msfs 24 XD
MIght get that, but kinda held back by the fact 2020 is pretty good still

[vagrant dune]

I just got off flying Vagar (EKVG) - Keflavik (BIKF) in a helicopter - 3 hour block time - if your controls works across sims I could join as PM maybe - might do other non-flight sim things though

[fading laurel]

Yeah. might do some flying this weekend. Can get Ewan into vatsim. Probably DCS tonight

[vagrant dune]

I'll join over the weekend then!

yourcontrols doesn't seem to work with 2024, I'll just re-install 2020!

[fading laurel]

That's dedication

I have to reinstall yourcontrols anyway

[vagrant dune]

I kinda want them both installed anyway and now feels like the perfect time

[vagrant dune]

do you fly the FBW or the fenix?

at least 320 wise

and then the headwind 330?

[fading laurel]

Headwinds a330.
So FBW API underneith

[river sorrel]

will i need any specific plane installed?

or just gonna stream it on discord so i can watch

either way im down for it

[fading laurel]

When I said jump seat I indeed meant streaming. Not sure how yourcontrols works for more than 2.
But it's up to you 🙂 I'm happy for any suggestions or just flip it so I'll chill and you fly 😄

[river sorrel]

im good with you streaming it for me

sunday work for you guys? i can do saturday or sunday night no fuss either way

[vagrant dune]

also are you running the default navigation data or have navigraph?

[fading laurel]

I have navigraph

[vagrant dune]

wonderful

[fading laurel]

At least, I still think I do

[vagrant dune]

I'll install the latest airac into 2020 then

[fading laurel]

Cool cool 🙂
I'm probably flying whatever we're doing in Simbrief and import it right away.
IF you are not too set on clicking all the buttons xD

filing*

[vagrant dune]

it certainly sounds like a plan - still need to have the same navdata though!

[fading laurel]

True, I'll check it as well, but I am logged in with navigraph everywhere I believe

[fading laurel]

All good for me

I might even try some flight tonight. (if either wants to see if we can get "yourcontrolls" working 🙂 )

@vagrant dune Up to try it out? 🙂
(If msfs is installed at all even hahaha)

[vagrant dune]

it's not done yet - 78%

[fading laurel]

Quicker than I expected actually haha

[vagrant dune]

it's like a 140 gig download

[fading laurel]

Yeah, it's big xD

But not that bad considering

[vagrant dune]

it's a fine size for what it is - still big though

[vagrant dune]

right I'm up now if you want to give it a shot

[fading laurel]

IN the MSFS channel. Need 5 minutes to test something in a script 🙂 But I am

[fading laurel]

@vagrant dune up for another flight somewhere today? 🙂

Ah see, you're streaming 😄

[vagrant dune]

I'm continuing the helicopter trans-atlantic

might be able to do another flight today though, we'll see

[fading laurel]

Yeah saw that. Nice!

[fading laurel]

(saw syntax is still on the same flight haha)

[vagrant dune]

I have done a fuel stop

but I'm thinking we fly into the scottish vatsim event tonight

[river sorrel]

i have just woken up ngl

about to do some dcs with my brother but will hop on if i can stay awake later tonight if you are on @fading laurel @vagrant dune

[fading laurel]

I was thinking that too!

[vagrant dune]

I've got about an hour to run on this flight, then I'll grab some food and we can set off

[vagrant dune]

or out of the event for that matter

a flight out of inverness (EGPE) would be interesting

it might be able to accommodate a 330

[fading laurel]

Sounds good

I'm 99% sure it won't be XD
Edinburgh can do as well. Will be nice and busy.
We have to fly outbound. Inbound is slotted only I bleieve

Budapest also is live.
So we can fly to there. That's just fully covered

I'm somewhat certain I'll be able to swap to the FBW a320 without issue. So if we want inverness we can definitely fly out of there.
KLM has a320s now for some dutch pride 😄

We'll just plan in a little bit 🙂

[vagrant dune]

it's like 500m short if we're at max weight

otherwise we can fly a 320 yeah

I know they fly out of inverness irl

and in terms of how you fly them they're basically identical

[fading laurel]

Yeah, I mean it's definitely going to make it, cause pushing it into TOGA will get you out of everywhere almost.
It's just, the taxi might be a little weird

[vagrant dune]

we'll just confuse the controller!

but the reason for inverness is that the procedures make the comms more interesting

[fading laurel]

True, doing special deliveries.
"Monster of Log ness can't fit an 320 sir"

[fading laurel]

Gotcha, then let's do it. If the procedures don't expect me to do something weird

[vagrant dune]

we'll just say we're transporting a nessie pup

[fading laurel]

(I'll set up the correct stuff this time

[vagrant dune]

nah, flying wise they're pretty normal

[fading laurel]

Gotcha 🙂

Let's do it. We'll check destination when we're both in chat 🙂

[vagrant dune]

there aren't any sids so we'll just get a vector on departure and then own nav to our first point

[fading laurel]

Gotcha, that's interesting indeed.
But doable 🙂
Def nice to share the workload then

[vagrant dune]

the reason the comms are more interesting is that it's in uncontrolled airspace :)

[fading laurel]

Is it? Huh?

Well, I'll find out

In the meantime, I can quickly "Type Rate" the airfield xD

[vagrant dune]

I also haven't flown an airliner out of there, but I have flown helis IFR and it's not that different

[fading laurel]

I'm updating the A320, just to be sure.
Can do a KLM flight inverness to EHAM. THe night transitions are quite nice at Amsterdam. It's controlled atm. Nice and busy in Europe atm

[vagrant dune]

sounds good

I'm installing the 320

so all is good

[fading laurel]

Cool col

[crude vault]

that can be cool

https://msfsaddons.com/2024/12/22/beyondatc-announces-custom-llm-integration-for-richer-atc-interactions-in-microsoft-flight-simulator/

https://youtu.be/oV0oZvng3Pc

[crude vault]

Any one of you knowledgable in the H145 SAS Autopilot system?

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel@vagrant dune sorry for early ping but does 5pm UK time work for you both? if cant today thats fine im also free through the week

[fading laurel]

I can!
Light on the vatsim events, but sunday is generally good for coverage, so should be good!

[vagrant dune]

I doubt I'll make it unfortunately

maybe for a bit at the beginning

[fading laurel]

I can do earlier as well. Just letting you know. Have all day basically

[river sorrel]

i think 5pm is good time for me hopefully i can stay awake for the full flight watch 😄

im interested in learning the comms btw if have any resources

[fading laurel]

Well, if syntax can't make it you're promoted

[river sorrel]

i watched a video of someone doing a flight and the clearance part really confused me

didnt understand most of it

[fading laurel]

Gotcha, I can talk you trough it. From a user perspective and how I make it easy 😄

[river sorrel]

i downloaded your controls or whatever its called what aircraft will you be using?

not that i will be much use i dont understand many aircraft yet 😂

[fading laurel]

FBW A320 most likely. Maybe the A330 by headwind. Both are great.
If you have a preference we'll fly that

Did you also install vPilot?

[river sorrel]

i got the a320 but tbh im fine with just watching a stream if you want to just go thru your process

[fading laurel]

I mainly fly the A330, but yesterday's a320 flight was very nice

[river sorrel]

let me check i downloaded a pilot client vPilot seems familiar

[fading laurel]

Let's co-pilot. It's fine 🙂

[river sorrel]

yep got vPilot

awesome will make sure a320 is updated

i have flown it a grand total of 3 times so not too familiar with it but i can try

just double checking its stable version 0.12.3?

for the a320nx

[fading laurel]

It's fine. I can handle the MCDU and stuff.

[river sorrel]

nice

i will go find a notepad for making notes

[fading laurel]

Might desync somewhere anyway, so not worth counting on it being totally bullet proof haha

[river sorrel]

what route you wanting to fly?

[fading laurel]

Not sure, We'll see about it at that time 🙂 Yesterday we also planned pretty last minute

[river sorrel]

understood 🫡

[fading laurel]

We'll do all the pre-planning together as well. And pre-filing etc 🙂

[river sorrel]

awesome

[fading laurel]

If Syntax does make it we'll see how we sort the seating 😄

[river sorrel]

thanks alot for this cause im absolutely terrified to get started in vatsim 😂

im sure that feeling will fade eventually

[fading laurel]

It will 🙂

[vagrant dune]

I'll almost certainly have to leave 1730-1800 sometime so the front seats are all for you two

might fly some offshore heli ops soon though

[fading laurel]

I'm doing some RNP approaches, in case the next time I can't see the runway at the final fix XD

[vagrant dune]

I'll be in msfs for a bit

[vagrant dune]

bit of a dreich flight to the rigs today

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel gonna need to push back the flight to thru the week if you are avaliable then.
brother needs help assembling his desk 🙄 ikea is apparently his weak point

i will do some learning before hand so i can handle or atleast try to handle the comms on our flight

[fading laurel]

Damn, all good! 🙂 Good luck

[river sorrel]

cheers

will msg tmmr and we can arrange a time

[fading laurel]

We'll see how much time I have during the week

Ikea desks should be setupable in 15 minutes, so if you do make it let me know ;p

[river sorrel]

if weekend is better its no rush just gives me more time to learn the comm structure

[fading laurel]

(Tell your brother it's a one man job anyway)

[river sorrel]

yeah will try speed thru it idk how he isnt figuring it out

he does this every time he gets new furniture he messes it up so calls me to his house

ok i will shoot off will @ you if im back at reasonable time

[fading laurel]

Yeah, I'm online all evening/night probably

But no rush

[crude vault]

@odd heart You up for some flighttime? I saw an option for shared cockpit in the H145

[vagrant dune]

I imagine it was me you're looking for, and yes, let's see if we can work it out

[crude vault]

yes lmao

sorry @odd heart

i'll be available in an hour or so

[vagrant dune]

rgr

[crude vault]

didnt take that long. Im good to go!

[molten violet]

picked up my ifr and night time rating in msfs today

[vagrant dune]

tesla's amazing pilot skills

[crude vault]

[fading laurel]

@river sorrel @vagrant dune
3 interesting events tonight on Vatsim if anyone is up for some flying🙂
Oslo, Budapest and Dusseldorf. So some nice routes.
German Approaches can be quite interesting with live controllers as you get shortcuts quite often.
(This is one example from DUS itself

[vagrant dune]

it's like dubai!

(and this is actually the same as the vectoring structure the UK controllers use post-star - it's just that when you're being vectored they often "give shortcuts" too it just doesn't feel like it")

[fading laurel]

True true, still haha

[crude vault]

the H160 is pretty cool!

[river sorrel]

what time is the event?

[fading laurel]

https://vatsim-radar.com/events

[river sorrel]

will see if im awake for this 😂
taking a sleep med to try reset my schedule cause rn im getting tired around 18-19 ish

[fading laurel]

Basically all evening

Gotcha, let me know what you think and curious what @vagrant dune feels like tonight 😉
I'm up for a flight again

But no pressure/rush 🙂

[crude vault]

@vagrant dune Got my hands on the 160 aswell. Im curious if the shared cockpit option is better in this one since its slightly newer

[vagrant dune]

possibly, but there's no yourcontrols profile for it specifically so we'd have to use the 145 one

[crude vault]

Thats very fair. Hopefully it'll get support. It is likely as the 160 got fewer buttons and the same layout as the 145 except for another screen

[vagrant dune]

hopefully - the two pilot offshore ops are calling

[crude vault]

@vagrant dune Could you instruct me in how to actually land the 145 and 160 with this SAS enabled? I find myself fumbling it up at close approach and landing

[crude vault]

Absolutely fantastic this is!

[river sorrel]

is this 2020 or 2024?

[crude vault]

24

[river sorrel]

ah damn i want to fly helicopter 😄

might need to buy 24

or more sensible would be learn the helicopters i got on dcs more

[crude vault]

its never too late!

[vagrant dune]

the only issue I've had is that the tablet settings haven't saved for me

so going through them is now part of my startup checks

[crude vault]

same! Its needed

[vagrant dune]

but as far as the approach/landing goes I've not had any issues at 40-50 kt and then pulling it into the hover

[crude vault]

I always notice that whenver i take manual control i need to double check that the SAS is within acceptable limits i.e. not too far from the center.

or else i'll be having issues gaining stability

[vagrant dune]

ahh probably - I haven't flown it too much with these settings and upper modes but when I have it has been a bit slower to come back to me once I take them out

[crude vault]

you should really try to mod it like i have in the video above. It is awesome how good it was

[vagrant dune]

I've got random and everywhere but not anything else on top of it - what else did you have?

[crude vault]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-remove-look-anime-gif-11456677

everything

[vagrant dune]

I shall have a look

[crude vault]

Every addon is listed here
https://flightsim.to/file/44159/hpg-airbus-h145-action-pack-hems-random-and-anywhere-mission

the voice addon is especially nice

https://flightsim.to/file/80628/hpg-airbus-h145-action-pack-hems-random-and-anywhere-realistic-voice-pack

This gave some new sounds to the aircraft aswell, and it sounds sweet!
https://flightsim.to/file/72420/hpg-airbus-h145-sound-system

[crude vault]

This is what Asobo should chase after! This was absolutely awesome, quite the immersion!

[crude vault]

Anyone if you tried Sayintentions.ai?

[river sorrel]

i was going to but the monthly cost stopped me

from all the reviews i watched though its meant to be really good

[crude vault]

yeah same. The monthly cost is way, way too high

got damn

[heady marsh]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1hy6ja4/natedrake_flight_simulator_2024_will_come_to_ps5/

[indigo furnace]

continuing my world tour with the turbo arrow iv (just flight, good module), sunrise on the south coast of kamchatka. MSFS 2020 still looks pretty enough for me

[crude vault]

[crude vault]

I would clock in so many professional hours in MFS for a chance of sitting in this simulator
https://youtu.be/9CtqqG8gY6M

[crude vault]

This is going above and beyond
https://youtu.be/OqLGVzag8Bk

[vagrant dune]

at london heliport on a sunday evening wondering if I'll ever get airborne rn

[fading laurel]

Heathrow has 34 departures still. So probably not

[vagrant dune]

the departures aren't the problem, it's the arrivals

I managed to get in just about

with a hold outside CAS

and then shit hit the fan on freq

it doesn't help that half the pilots aren't listening

[fading laurel]

Not a lot of arrivals it seems, but some of them seem to be messing up a few things xD

Bu I see you're corssing the Thames

On to Biggin Hill 😄

[vagrant dune]

yeah, I'll by flying down the thames, past city and then south to biggin hill

I just need my clearance

[fading laurel]

Seems some are even being given holds

[vagrant dune]

clearance!

and yes, delay's about 10 mins for inbounds

[fading laurel]

Pretty crazy still, cause honestly, it's not that busy according to radar

[vagrant dune]

the amount of planes wasn't the problem

on dover now though

[vagrant dune]

made it back and I'm now tired

[fading laurel]

@vagrant dune
Feeling another airliner flight later tonight?

[vagrant dune]

Maybe, I'm going out for food with some friends so I'll lyk when I get back

[fading laurel]

Ah nice, enjoy the food and company! 😄

[crude vault]

Simupdate 1 fixes the ground effect bug

[crude vault]

Sweet!

[molten violet]

i wonder if taking off and landing again at the same airport 50 times counts or not

[river sorrel]

hi tesla sorry to ping but is this the HPG H145?

looking to try this kinda thing it looks amazing

[crude vault]

It is indeed

The base version is just the H145, but for missions you'd need the action pack aswell, and ontop of that actionpack free addons which increases the immersiveness quite a bit, like voicelines.

[river sorrel]

awesome thank you for the info 🙂

will get that asap it looks so good

[river sorrel]

excuse my terrible graphics and my poor landing area 😂

this is alot of fun though

[molten violet]

well just passed my multi engine certification rating

next up turboprop engine rating

then maybe my jet engine rating or my ATPL

[viscid elk]

beyond atc is such a vibe nowadays

i love this with all my heart

[crude vault]

i got it, but BATC is having difficulties understanding what im saying so i get errors mostly

[viscid elk]

The LLM should help with that

[crude vault]

yeah i dont know what the issue is

[still dune]

can someone help me learn. im new to MSFS

[molten violet]

Game has a lot of ingame help already in the form of tutorials and what not

[crude vault]

i uhh.. i just logged on and i got S rated, 1 billion credits and i suddenly have 11 aircraft in my hangar, even though my company revenue is.. 0,-

Well ok i guess. I'll take the 1 billion credits, for sure!

@fading laurel , you got an answer for this?

[fading laurel]

How would I know? 😂

[crude vault]

i dont know, ive been offline for a while

[fading laurel]

I don't even own msf24 yet😂

[crude vault]

well.. ofcourse you cant help then lmao

[fading laurel]

I mean,. what's to help? Free money it sounds like

[crude vault]

yes indeed. Im not one to complain

[crude vault]

First slingload in a little over a week and i completely missed the mark several times..

[crude vault]

10\10 landing, full applause in the back. You just didnt hear it!@ember ferry

[lethal rose]

msfs2024 must be mostly fixed by now? cant decide between shelling out for it or arma reforger

https://msfsaddons.com/2025/03/25/sim-update-2-beta-for-msfs-2024-is-here-with-the-longest-changelog-youve-ever-seen/

[crude vault]

Damn.. that is one humongous update!

[lethal rose]

Yes sir! Do you get the beta updates normally or do you have to opt in

[crude vault]

I opted in on steam

[crude vault]

Attempting to learn this badboy for career mode. Its quite fun to fly!

[thorn nova]

Can you actually do firefighting missions?

[crude vault]

Yeah! With the air tractor and the viking! I dont know with the aircrane yet, although it got the firefighting addon to it

[crude vault]

Its a careful dance between torque and speed!

[lethal rose]

https://youtu.be/HUbuFYLiStg

[crude vault]

This was easier than i expected!

[crude vault]

I gave it a shot and it went very well!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-rwINdDvg48

[normal tartan]

How do fly online in fs2020

[crude vault]

This was great to fly!

[river sorrel]

anyone know if the FlyBywire a320nx works in msfs2024

[crude vault]

it does! Atleast it spawns in and i can boot up the batteries. I havent flown it yet though

[river sorrel]

thanks @crude vault ❤️

[crude vault]

i'll give it a testfly momenterily and get back to you!

[river sorrel]

i couldnt get engines to spool up but its my first time in that plane for months so probably missed a step 😄

[crude vault]

yeah i havent started it either but i'll give it a go

[crude vault]

give me a help down in vc?

[river sorrel]

cant vc atm as about to leave for my grandparents lunch 😦

i should be back around 1:30 uk

[crude vault]

fair

[river sorrel]

well depends how quick the help is i leave in 20mins 😄

https://www.justflight.com/product/air-hauler-2-microsoft-flight-simulator

[river sorrel]

@crude vault forgot to say the A320NX dev build works flawlessly in 24

got this last night

might hop in vc after i finish todays work

[crude vault]

Very nice for sure

[normal tartan]

hi

[crude vault]

@river sorrel As i dont particularily like to fly airliners, i do like to fly the cessna caravan. such a fun aircraft to fly. turboprops are much more fun than smaller piston aircrafts.

Also, 10\10 perfect landing

[river sorrel]

my brother loves this aircraft

im crying rn cause msfs crashed mid way thru my 2hr flight

oh well will try again tmmr 😂

[crude vault]

Nice! And yeah that sounds like MFS24.

The viking CL-415 is by far the most fun fixed wing aircraft ive flown so far!

[normal tartan]

Have you tried headwind a330?

[crude vault]

I dont fly airliners, so nope!

[viscid elk]

very stable

had like a 9 hour flight in it yesterday

[lethal rose]

The MV310R looks cool.

[molten violet]

FSS just released the passenger version of the 727-200 for MSFS

[crude vault]

If anyone is up for some flying give me a call. I havent tried formation flying yet in MFS24, much less with a large aircraft!

[molten violet]

I’ll be flying the 727-200 on 2020 this weekend or maybe the md-88 on 2024

[crude vault]

This is harder than it seems

[molten violet]

what are you flying there

[crude vault]

A400

[molten violet]

@crude vault if you want to do a flight in 2024 tomorrow or something i can breakout the mad dog md-88

[crude vault]

Sure thing, i dont do airliners but i can give it a go!

[molten violet]

Well you said something big so I guess we could do the c-17 in 2024

[crude vault]

I dont got the C-17, but i got the A400 so we can try that for sure!

[crude vault]

Quite the landing challenge for sure, but super fun!

[river sorrel]

i may have made a silly purchase 😁

i am loving flying the airbus a320nx and a339 from fbw and headwind

so it makes sense to me to buy this
next up is a MCDU

i dont think its natively compatable but i saw some community workarounds to make it work

[crude vault]

Very nice indeed. I dont have that but i do got a farming simulator control panel which im using for an autopilot controller

[crude vault]

@river sorrel
A challenge for you! TNCM - TNCS.

Ive only managed to land there with the caravan once and i reversed the prop before i touched down that time

going to try again, but i'll keep the speed below 60 knots this time

[river sorrel]

do i attempt this in a a320 next time im able to fly 😂

[crude vault]

oh yeah you wont land it with a a320. you need a much smaller aircraft. i could barely do it with the caravan

[river sorrel]

need to get a pic of the setup next time i fly

fenix a320 and this panel is really nice

only did a short flight edinburgh to prestwick

[molten violet]

so havent been in career mode in a while go into today and almost every single thing is unlocked including stuff i hadnt even touched yet like helos

and i have like a billon credits

[crude vault]

Yeah thats a beta feature. None of what you do in beta will transfer over to live version

[river sorrel]

learned how to do a full auto landing

this time was a short hop from edinburgh to prestwick about 30mins

ignore the metalica playing i need music to fly with 😂

[river sorrel]

not the best landing

learning that the auto landing is not the smoothest 😄

[charred isle]

https://msfsaddons.com/2025/05/08/just-flights-beloved-pa-28-lineup-gets-ready-for-native-msfs-2024-launch-with-major-updates/

[molten violet]

so out of the beta now and i still have everything unlocked almost and have a billion credits

[crude vault]

mans looking like hes done this for 60 years, yet theres 40 more years till retirement!

[river sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-jet-eurofighter-eurofighter-typhoon-ef-2000-gif-9075964534798914493

looking for opinions

what is everyones favourite / must have addons for 2024

Right now i have Beyondatc , fenix a320 , GSX and my home airport

and navigraph subscription ofcourse

[crude vault]

Only addon i have is Cowansim H125. Very neat helicopter when flown correctly

[ember ferry]

Of that list I only have the Fenix A320 and can confirm its accuracy. Navigraph is must. Any money left over is spent on peripherals and DCS. 😅

[molten violet]

Well they are 2020 addon but most work in 2024 but I really enjoy the TFDi md-11 the fss b727-200 and the maddog md-82/83/88

There’s also the free A-380

[crude vault]

ive tried that once. The aircraft is too big for my taste

the CL-415 is great though!

[crude vault]

trying out the 225. The lower modes does assist, but i think i need an introduction in how the 225 differ from the 145 in terms of assists and autopilots!

[molten violet]

I don’t mind I like the big aircraft md-11 747 A-380

[vagrant dune]

once we get upper modes in the 225 I'll be flying it quite a lot!

[crude vault]

Same! But until that time..

HPG got the coding done. Quite literally copypaste from the H160 and presto, done!

[river sorrel]

all prepped for tomorrows flight

running a accurate livery kinda and using a real route

[normal tartan]

Nice setup you got there

[river sorrel]

thank you 🙂

[normal tartan]

what hotas you use ?

[river sorrel]

warthog hotas and throttle

waiting for winwing to release their airbus throttle setup

[normal tartan]

i am trying to bind the detent for reverse but don't know how ?

you know wherer you lift the throttle

[river sorrel]

in what aircraft

yeah i know what mean

[normal tartan]

headwind a330

and someother aircraft like flybywire

[river sorrel]

ah ok i dont have my reverse on the throttle axis

i use a key to enable reverse thrust

then i just move the throttle forward to do reverse thrust

then i click it again and bring back the throttle for idle again

[normal tartan]

which key ?

[river sorrel]

its called "toggle reverse thrust" its set to the Engine OPER right on the warthog hotas

just press it forward and it activates

[molten violet]

I think I used to the pinky button on the throttle to toggle it

[fading laurel]

On vatsim? 😉

[river sorrel]

i wish i had the confidence for that 😂

just using BATC

[fading laurel]

Hahah all good 😄
You'll probably be fine

Stepped it up to the a320 though!

[river sorrel]

yeah im abit obsessed with it rn

got the fenix one and a winwing FCU now 🙈

[fading laurel]

Nice!
If it were the FBW one I'd have said we could do a my-controls flight 😄

[river sorrel]

does that work on 24?

[fading laurel]

No clue hahah, good point, I don't even own* 24

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel sorry to ping but have a vatsim question
On my thing it says im P0 so no pilot rating according to the vatsim website
i assume i need to go thru some training before i can fly on the network?

ah found the PPL stuff was looking in wrong place before 😄

[fading laurel]

Jupp it's a quick one tbh.
Depending how much you nerded out about aviation before

Reading it is nice though

[river sorrel]

im gonna start working through it tmmr will take notes aswell

its the radio stuff that scares me currently

seems very busy

[crude vault]

The H145 is still as fun now as when i first flew it way back when

[crude vault]

Sometimes, when im alone, i log on and just listen to the chaos, and remember that im snug at home not flying on vatsim eating snacks

[molten violet]

Firebird you are not clear to buzz the runway

[crude vault]

Thats the fun part of not flying in vatsim, you can do whatever you want!

[molten violet]

I know was kind of making a joke based off of top gun but using the movie firebirds with Nicolas cage

[indigo furnace]

If you enjoy GA, I really like the Just Flight Piper series. I only have the Turbo Arrow ones, but the Warrior is supposed to be top notch as well

[river sorrel]

London to Schiphol this evening

[fading laurel]

Nice!
What approach did you get?

[river sorrel]

REDF1A to 18C

ILS approach

[crude vault]

Yeah i wish i was a tad bit better planning my flights

[river sorrel]

my plan went out the window 😂

was meant to be landing 27

atc said half way there that im going to 18c

its fine though as was same routing

[crude vault]

yeah, pre-planning is my issue in MFS24, really

But i fly helicopters mostly so pre-planning is an afterthought

[river sorrel]

thats fair then

i mainly fly airliners so i just plan it all out with simbrief

[fading laurel]

Nice!
Does BATC let you fly the night transition or picks you up with vectors at some point?
I knew initially it would always have you fly over SPL even though arrivals are picked up and vectored way before that

The night transitions are already pretty well seperated.
The day time arrival charts always show you flying over SPL at 7000.
Which obviously causes issues, but it's more a lost com iirc

[river sorrel]

I was cleared direct SUGOL cross at or below FL100
had a missed ILS approach so was directed somewhere would need to charge my ipad and check the notes
then rerouted back to SUGOL and finally landed 18C

wasnt given vectors

just cleared on my standard approach

was either NIREX or NETOM from what i remember was just off the coast

wont lie i was very tired on this flight 😂

[fading laurel]

Hahaha yeah gotcha 🙂
You got it down, so very nice

How does BATC handle traffic nowadays?
LAst time (a while back) it kinda struggled, especially with spacing on arrivals

[river sorrel]

i dont have density set too high on traffic but on taxi out i was 2nd in queue which was cool
on approach there was no wait for arrival but that could just be lucky timing

im going to turn up density so i can get more lively skies

[fading laurel]

Nice nice 🙂

[river sorrel]

definitely dont just want a excuse to use the hold feature of the a320 that i just learned 😂

[fading laurel]

Fly Vatsim on an event, you'll have more than enough practice with it!

[river sorrel]

soon i hope

im using BATC to train up along with watching guides

[fading laurel]

I departed from Greece once.
It was insane. I think there were 25 planes in holds.

[river sorrel]

thats mad

[fading laurel]

Yeah nice!
If you're comfortable talking to BATC technically you can probably manage on vatsim

[river sorrel]

i need to get faster at writing my instructions

dont want to hold up the atc 😄

[fading laurel]

It's just confidence, which is arguably the hardest part.
But as always, I'd say just try it 🙂

When flight planning you can add a note in your plan. "First time Vatsim" or "very new, sorry"

[river sorrel]

oh thats cool

[fading laurel]

Clearances and stuff?
Everybody gets a clearance wrong once in a while

[river sorrel]

i will try a flight some time thru the week

[fading laurel]

Yeah, and most controllers are totally fine with it

[river sorrel]

clearence is what confuses me the most

[fading laurel]

What you can always do is schedule a departure from a manned airport.
To a weird niche airport.
Then you can safely disconnect after leaving the departure airspace.

[river sorrel]

do i just say "Heathrow delievry - Speedbird 907 with information (whatever letter) requesting IFR clearance to Schiphol" for example

[fading laurel]

I think that's for everyone, but if you prepare and write down your expected you only have to change small bits and add a squawk code

[river sorrel]

i will not be doing heathrow on my first ever flight will probably go edinburgh thru the day its usually quiet

[fading laurel]

Yeah, or "howdy delivery, looking to pick up clearance to Schiphol, Speedbird 907"

[river sorrel]

good to know

[fading laurel]

Yours is way better

But no one is going to burn you for missing a word in that sentence.

When reading back it is very detailed.

[river sorrel]

yeah i think simpler is probably better to a degree

aslong as they understand the request its fine

[fading laurel]

But clearances always come in the same structure, so you can basically already write it down based on your expected arrival and active runway according to the ATIS

The "With Information" part is good to mention btw.
Keep that in.
Generally they kinda want it when asking for clearance, and most certainly when you request taxi/startup.

At least, that's where they generally verify it when I don't say it

[river sorrel]

will send pics of my notes from last nights flight later

i took it too serious for a beyond atc flight 😂

its good practise tho

[fading laurel]

Haha it's practice, can't fool around in practice expecting to bring your A game to the actual field

When doing Vatsim, a few things really give you goodwill from the controller.
Patience when keying up. (Stepping on someone multiple times is really a good way to make the controller dislike you)
Your callsign in every message. (It's required, but the amount of people that simply don't is crazy. So controller appreciate the effort.)
Flying what you're given. Fixing a minor readback error is easy, figuring our why you're turning north after departing when the departure cleary requires you to turn south is a whole different kind of mental gymnastics

So you'll most likely be fine 🙂

It's been too long since I've flown on the network

[river sorrel]

thank you for these advices ❤️

i gotta go but will send some pics of my notes from last night when i return

please ignore my handwriting its bad 😂

[fading laurel]

These are just my experiences, def more tips and tricks out there 🙂

[crude vault]

And i was doing so well on my departure.. until i didnt

[crude vault]

This looks interesting
https://miltechsimulations.com/blogs/news/miltech-simulations-mh60-dev-blog-3

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel here is the notes 😄

as i said please ignore my scrawly hand writing

lot of abbreviation cause im not a fast writer

[fading laurel]

Makes sense to me

Did you note these down when they were given to you?

[river sorrel]

yeah

was harder than i thought to manage notes and following the instructions at same time

[fading laurel]

90% of the stuff you get is predictable.
It helps when you write it down beforehand 🙂

For descend clearances and alt clearances I cheat a little.
I treat my AP settings as my reminder.
When cleared to decent to FL90 I put it to 9000.
I don't want it to descent lower anyway.
Same for headings etc.

[river sorrel]

thats a good idea

i was writing it then following the instruction

should do it opposite way

[fading laurel]

Makes sense as well, but where normally you can divide with 2 people a little you're doing it all on your own.
Some shortcuts do help.

You need to be careful to not set something wrong and assume that's the truth.
But if you're just reading it back and setting it directly you'll hardly miss it

And well, if you've heard it wrong and written it down wrong, you won't correct it when putting it into the AP

[fading laurel]

And ofcourse for most of the stuff you can shorten it.
27R K B L A AB

Means taxi and hold short 27R via K B L A AB.
Sometimes you even have a hold short instruction in there.
Underlining the letter makes that clear for me.
Removing the dashes, "via" etc can help you be quicker in noting it down 🙂

[river sorrel]

that is very true

[river sorrel]

will make note of this

[fading laurel]

It's a process.
You'll find that you'll most likely leave out a lot of stuff.
And since our brain has evolved to predict the future, you'll most likely be ahead of the curve once flying from the same airport a few times.

With Taxiways and stuff there generally really only is 1 or 2 logical ways to get to a runway.
Even in Amsterdam I've been able to write down the taxiways before even getting the instructions.

Once I was unlucky and they send me all the way around, cause I was right in the middle xD

[river sorrel]

😂

oh that raises a question is there any application that will show me a map of a airport and my location for when im on vatsim 😄

i get lost on taxi really easy

BATC has a map

[fading laurel]

Navigraph Link works very nicely.
Not sure if you have a license or if you need a license, but I believe you do

https://navigraph.com/products/charts/moving-maps

[river sorrel]

i have a licence so that works thanks ❤️

[fading laurel]

nice nice 🙂

[charred isle]

https://www.justflight.com/articles/starship-news-black-square-msfs-aircraft-update-may-2025

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel @crude vault i have done a silly thing 🙈

i bought a thermal reciept printer to use on the fenix a320 for printing weather reports and such 😂

£32 isnt a bad deal tbh its 150 new

[fading laurel]

Hahahaha nice!

[river sorrel]

will send the result when it arrives later today

im hoping to jump on vatsim this weekend

been ill all week so we will see

[fading laurel]

Nice nice!
Let us know how it goes! 😄

[fading laurel]

ooff, yeah, then some relaxing and flying is always nice

[river sorrel]

will do ❤️

[river sorrel]

been playing abit of BMS with my brother its fun but omg im useless at any guided munitions in the f16 😂

tried to use Harms like i do in dcs but nah no hits

must of done something wrong

[crude vault]

only the most dedicated will know why such a thing is necessary! Neato!

[river sorrel]

very cool

took a minute to figure out the drivers for this printer 😂

i want to make the font bigger my eyesight aint the best

[ember ferry]

That’s so dumb.

I need it

Is it as convoluted and finicky to load paper in as the real one? 😂

[river sorrel]

simple enough for me to understand so must be easy 😂

just put it in the top and pull the paper onto the cutting bit and close it

got it for £32 and will look nice on my paper logs i write for flights so im happy 😄

just going to tape them onto the paper

[ember ferry]

That’s super nerdy and cool. I love it.

Your next task is ACARS art.

[river sorrel]

i already did one of House from house md 😂

i gave it to my brother

from a distance you can see it clearly 😂

[crude vault]

the HPG H145 with the Action pack is probably the best buck for an addon ive ever purchased ever

[river sorrel]

this 2024?

i cant get the smoke to show on 2024 so i dont know where to land 😂

[crude vault]

this is 24 yes

[river sorrel]

😮

i must of installed wrong

cause ur smoke looks like its working

[crude vault]

its working just fine for me atleast

[river sorrel]

it might have been fixed since i last tried

will give it a shot tmmr

[crude vault]

Everytime i fly past the Royal Palace in Oslo i physically salute it!
Its the only way to do it!

[charred isle]

https://youtu.be/aCojR9P9JrY?si=eqw9ew18CR6TU-YF

[waxen galleon]

Today I unsubscribed game pass and purchased MSFS 2024 Deluxe

[crude vault]

Have loads of fun

[charred isle]

https://youtu.be/nS2JkHnaCeg?si=rMghcCQPzBn8GtGb

[river sorrel]

so tempting

recently got a honeycomb bravo for pretty cheap on facebook marketplace

could be a good upgrade for it

[molten violet]

Looks like it’s just add on parts for the bravo

[river sorrel]

@fading laurel this might interest you just got sayintentions after being recommeded it by a friend

its expensive but my god it feels so alive

its really good

[fading laurel]

Better than batc?

[river sorrel]

i would say so but my time in SayIntentions is limited so far

only done 1 flight

i need to try the copilot stuff cause apparently its good too

[fading laurel]

Ah gotcha!
I see it has some more features

I am not flying with an AI co-pilot though. Jester has done enough damage

[river sorrel]

it uses both ai voices and recorded multiplayer comms for traffic stuff (with consent ofcourse you can turn off voice recording)

im just so impressed with it 😄

[fading laurel]

Haha nice nice!

[waxen galleon]

SI is subscription. (Too expensive)

[river sorrel]

yeah thats the one draw back i have with it so far

[waxen galleon]

I am not able to fly with ATC yet but I hope BeyondATC’s VFR feature can come soon.

BTW guys anyone flying msfs2024 VR? If so do you disable hand tracking or vr control.

I find VR controllers in mafs2024 too annoying.

[waxen galleon]

Answer to myself:

I use Virtual Desktop. Today I found and disabled the Controllers interact with desktop option.
This removes the Quest Controllers from Windows and the games, while the Hand Passthrough is still there.

[river sorrel]

this is very helpful to know

i just got virtual desktop today

[waxen galleon]

Nice to help! Endless tinkering lol.

@river sorrel Feel free to ask anything about VD here or in the hardware-and-technical-questions channel. It's a wonderful software.

[river sorrel]

will let you know when i have questions thank you for the offer to help ❤️

[waxen galleon]

Announced at FSExpo: Navigraph Charts App will support taxi routes and 3rd party traffic injection (BeyondATC confirmed)

[molten violet]

So was flying in 2024 this weekend working on the career mode and saw a cloud to ground lighting strike first time I’ve seen one of those in the sim

[waxen galleon]

https://fixupx.com/airmainengineer/status/1939519006454780210

aircraftmaintenancengineer (@airmainengineer)

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[waxen galleon]

MSFS SU3 (beta) adds this handy option for VR finally

[waxen galleon]

Strangely, this setting will override each other under VR and 2D graphics. (iirc 2D had this setting before this beta)

[molten violet]

Flight I made last night from KCHA to kdfw

[waxen galleon]

Beautiful

[waxen galleon]

I can ignore/pass these breakers although they are models in msfs 2024 right?

[crude vault]

So... tempting...

https://blackbirdsims.com/flight/PG.php?id=90

[waxen galleon]

MSFS pop outs (for example the GNS 530) can show on a second display

but unfortunately when in VR these pop outs on a flat display are blank 🤦‍♂️ 🥹

Perhaps I'll switch back to none VR for MSFS after I get all these done

[waxen galleon]

Update wow after updating the SU3 beta this seems to be fixed

[crude vault]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/7msmkm0p4ygf1/pb/m2-res_360p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1754434800&s=e7fdd54278f93a91d1d642d3495aeecd172eb661

Still gotta try that runway, @river sorrel

[river sorrel]

i do

tbh not played much flight sim recently

or dcs for that matter

[crude vault]

Cropdusting in VR is a walk in the park!

[molten violet]

This is going to be g to make for some interesting photo mode in MSFS 2024 https://youtu.be/cxMDu5i9jEE?si=FX2Im4Bg-zpLWlQ2

[crude vault]

Sweet lord what a crapshow!

[river sorrel]

anyone here flying the updated fenix a320?

in 2024 that is

getting a pure white main flight display and not sure why

seems to only be the pilots side left display

[river sorrel]

@crude vault hello 🙂 any chance you have flown the new miltech mh-60?

i am looking at maybe buying it for some UK coastguard operations

believe it comes with a HMCG livery

[crude vault]

I havent yet, but i certainly will. Not at home currently

[crude vault]

I'll let you know!

[crude vault]

yeah im having issues with my install. Getting no textures at all on the helicopter which is frustrating

[crude vault]

PSA: AVOID MILVIZ\BLACKBIRD. THEIR PACKAGES ARE CORRUPT. PURCHASE THE MH-60 FROM MILTECH DIRECTLY INSTEAD

[crude vault]

So far so very much good!

[crude vault]

Yeah id recommend it. Just did a mission, and had fun!

[river sorrel]

damn it looks cool 😮

is there good checklists for startup and such?

[crude vault]

yeah its on the pad. Fair checklist. The keybindings though are a bit lacking

[crude vault]

https://youtu.be/iQ4xvbJ7UsQ

[crude vault]

Let me know if you get it @river sorrel and we'll have a little flight!

[crude vault]

Very cool indeed!

https://youtu.be/TMHb0JZoR4w

[waxen galleon]

Download day: https://x.com/MSFSofficial/status/1958195125089075260

Microsoft Flight Simulator✈️ (@MSFSofficial)

Sim Update 3 for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 is now live for all players!

This update includes the ability to locally download packages from the FS Library, improvements to default aircraft, stability, performance, bug fixes, SDK updates, and a whole lote more.

Read the

X · Aug 20, 2025, 3:51 PM

[crude vault]

you linked to twitter, which is a site to avoid at all costs

https://www.flightsimulator.com/sim-update-3-msfs-2024/

[crude vault]

Finally!

[waxen galleon]

If it doesn't break a few things I was testing with SU3 beta, we are not able to use pop ups in VR (Which my C172 pit would rely on that fix)

[crude vault]

hopefully itll work out perfectly with your c172 pit

[vagrant dune]

wow - I'm now annoyed that I can't fly rn!

[crude vault]

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/local-legend-21-eurocopter-ec135/734565

EC135 is not being well recieved, and that is well deserved

[molten violet]

Personally was hoping they would do something like a older airline or something for the last one

[molten violet]

TDFi md-11 or is that xplane

[charred isle]

Tfdi

[molten violet]

yea i love it just waiting on them to update it for 2024 so i can fly it again

making do with the fss 727 for now

[charred isle]

Yeah, also I'm waiting on Aero Dynamics DC/KC-10 as well

[molten violet]

didnt know there was a dc-10 for msfs will have to look for it

[charred isle]

yeah freeware too

[molten violet]

so just picked this up for msfs 2024 along with the F6F

[crude vault]

https://youtu.be/yIl80Ia3QLI

[hoary vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ7vgYIkuWU

Released now, lots of videos out there on youtube

[waxen galleon]

MSFS released a nice world update for Japan

[crude vault]

Flawless!

[thorn nova]

So MSFS is not set up for headtracking devices in mind.... i'm doing the helo training and it says I failed a step cause I was looking around with my trackir instead of using their keybinds...

[waxen galleon]

right that could also happen in vr sometimes. very silly.

[thorn nova]

I dont know what it is but my controls and curves keep resetting and its getting insanely frustrating

[river sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-dark-side-palpatine-sith-gif-14304484953492859842

got my brother into flying the a320

now he wants to spend money on more flight gera

*gear

[molten violet]

Ain’t that the way it always is

[river sorrel]

for sure

we did a flight with me sitting watching his screen. managed to startup and fly a route but landing was hard

im still learning it all myself so it was rough 😄

[molten violet]

I’ve been flying flight sims since the early 90’s luckily non of my brother got interested

[river sorrel]

3 of 4 including me love flight sims 😄

the 4th doesnt care for them

[thorn nova]

So I had a lot of trouble with the helicopter CPL and ended up just skipping to the the final exam.... idk why that felt so much easier

[molten violet]

It starts with MSFS then evolves to combat sims next thing he’ll be playing warthunder il2 or dcs

[river sorrel]

exact pipeline my older brother

*of my

[thorn nova]

Usually the pipeline starts with WT and ends with a flight sim though doesnt it?

[river sorrel]

nah for my older brother it was FSX -> DCS -> MSFS2020/2024 😄

now he also war thunders

[molten violet]

No I started with MSFS then Jane’s combat sims then Microsoft combat sims and other combat sim including tanks

[crude vault]

Well, i expect you to show him helicopters too, yes?

[river sorrel]

he has done some HEMS flights i made sure he bought the helicopter 🙏

its very cool

[crude vault]

doing the lords work

[molten violet]

Anyone else looking forward to il2 Korea

[thorn nova]

So doing a couple of the missions in the MSFS career mode.... the employer cut for the missions are HUGE

[thorn nova]

@crude vault Once you have your own company established in MSFS, can you then buy helicopters from a bigger selection than is shown in the certifications?

[crude vault]

In theory yes!

[thorn nova]

Sweet

[thorn nova]

Greeeeeeeat I just flew 70nm for a mission and I cant contact arrival to get landing clearance....

I wasted so much time on this flight and now I cant complete it....

[waxen galleon]

Huh this happened to me recently as well. But I’ on SU beta have thought that would be the cause.

[river sorrel]

not my smoothest landing but it was a visual landing on runway 22 so it was unexpected that is my excuse 😄

idk why my aircraft icao is appearing as a cessna

it was a airbus i was flying 😂

[river sorrel]

https://youtu.be/WWHUPsMKWbI

this is the vibe i have when flying the fenix a320 😂

i forgot how much fun it was after a 2 month break

[crude vault]

the most stressing landing ive done in a while

[charred isle]

first flight in the bonanza from blacksqaure in 2024, the reflections in it are awesome. Also cool to notice that you can cause all the lights to pulse in the cockpit if you have the throttle at idle and the alternator doesn't put out enough volts

[crude vault]

Flawless landing at Laklu By Mount Everest

[indigo furnace]

I think you might have been a bit shallow in the end, but you make up for it with style points

[molten violet]

Took the black square baron and bonanza out for a flight last night also quite good

[crude vault]

[crude vault]

When your landing is 10\10

[crude vault]

Anyone tried out the Stranger Things campaign in MFS24 yet? I did the training and i laughed as the game tried to teach me how to fly helicopters.